Speaker 1: NHL Best Bets for Thursday, March twelfth. We are live
on Puck Time, a Wager Talk TV Andrew, Carmine and
Brian and we had a two games slate yesterday. A boy,
oh boy, we had some fun with that two game slate. Today,
much much bigger of a day, So look forward to
breaking down all kinds of games. And as I continue
to find out in the chat and in the postgame comments,
you guys don't like much of our small talk. You
guys don't like it when I talk hockey. We've got
picks and a ton of picks for you guys today,
so we'll make sure we get right to those for you.
It was a one to no day for me yesterday.
We had the plus one sixty two winner on the
Montreal Canadians. We'll try and rock and roll with that.
College basketball keeps roling, so we'll try and keep going
with that. We got Carmine Bianco back on the show
with us today and his run remains red hot.
Speaker 2: What's up, Carl, what's going on? Listen? Chat's all part
of the show. We do this for free. We promote
along the way. There is no paywall. It's not going
to be a three minute show where we just log
in and say, okay, take Tampa, Toronto, Dallas in Vegas
and we'll see you tomorrow morning at eleven am. Come on, guys,
but up a little bit. I did see some comments
from not Yesterdays show the show before where they're like,
just get to it. I'm like, well, they're obviously not
clients and they're just logging in for free picks. You're
gonna get those free picks, but we're going to make
you wait for them. But with that said, dude, we
have a monster card today. You and I are going
to discuss Detroit and Tampa. Brian Leonards here, We're going
to keep them on for the Whost Show to discuss
Anaheim and Toronto, Edmonton and Dallas, Pittsburgh in Vegas. And
the reason for that is I'm on wager Talk today,
so I will give you my thoughts on Edmonton and
Dallas and Pittsburgh in Vegas on wager Talk today. So
it's not repetitive, same game, partly from Andrew with a
bunch of player props, a pod play for me, and
then we'll close it out and love having you guys
all back my thirteen one in one streak took a
little dent. I'm gonna buff it out tonight with a
five percent play Andrew, and I know you got one
as well too. Thirteen two and one. I'll take that
any day of the week over a sixteen game stretch.
I'll take thirteen and two anytime I can get it.
But with that said, I want to give you guys kudos,
you and Brian, And you can bring Brian on here,
because you guys on the show yesterday and I watched
it will I was out. You talked about Montreal, you
said they were a live dog. Wait for the goalie.
See if it's gonna be Fouler, and you like it
even more and the man played his eyeballs out seriously.
Unbelievable performance by Fowler against a Ottawa team that had
been playing some phenomenal hockey nine one their last twelve
games and the Habs get the job done. Man. Kudos
to both you guys on that on that prediction yesterday.
Speaker 3: Appreciate that. Yeah, we had a lot of fun yesterday
and we tried to do a lot of teaching on
this show, and I know we all love to help
each other out and the people and that in the
comments and all I love listening to that, but keep
keep keep in mind. We're only in two games yesterday
and I thought we did a good job of breaking
them down and worked out well for me because both
games I like won. But it's just there was somebody
in the comment talking about going against one of the
games and he was a fan of that team. You
have to keep your fandom out of your bedding. It's
just that's all there is to it. You guys have
your teams. I have my team. If you're not willing
to bet against your team, you're not thinking about it properly.
And if you're not willing to bet against the team
for your own bank role, it's you're never gonna make money.
You've got to be able to look at everything. Every
game is different. One day this team is good, the
next day you bet against them. It's just part of gambling,
and we're just trying to help people. We've been all
been doing it for a long time.
Speaker 1: And one thing I found interesting too is that yesterday
with the Montreal Canadians, it was plus one sixty when
we talked about it, Brian, and it was plus one
sixty for puck drop, So as much as we thought, Okay,
if you know, if things change or the go down,
we're gonna get the best of the number. But it's
not even about that. We were just getting the best
of the information. So because the books still don't know
how great Jacob Fowler is and I'm pretty high on
the kid, the number didn't move and mont Tembau has
been horrible all year, and so we're waiting. We're telling
people on the show if it's falor we'll play it
if Montembeau. So pretty much, you and I like the
game even with Montembo, and now we're getting a guy
in better form at the exact same price. So and
shout out to Brian because Brian did mention Philadelphia, so
they showed up pretty well. Even though and I'll say,
carm you and I always talk about this just for you.
I know, we got to get to the games. People
always say, oh, it's the wrong goalie, it's the wrong goalie.
This is a live show at eleven am Eastern. We
look at projected goalies. We do our best, but we're
not always going to have the projected goalies right for
you guys. So that's just the way she goes sometimes
and we did hit a player prop yesterday, I only
gave out two. We hit the plus one seventy Nick
Suzuki power play point Brian. That one that I gave
out that hit like forty seconds into the game. That
was the best feeling ever. It hit right away. So
anyway on to today. But we're looking forward to breaking
down the slate here, karm And yeah, we have that
five percent play. Both of us have a five percent,
but we have that bogo the puck time bogo.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 1: I won't speak for you, Karen, but I think it's
best for people. Hey, don't get the five percent plays,
get the bogos. You're gonna get three days of each
of us for one great price.
Speaker 2: I absolutely love it. Or my suggestion which is by
car Mines and get entry's free. But whatever, you know,
it's all it's all good, no, with all kidding aside, Well, Andrew,
you and I are gonna head over and discuss now
this Tampa and Detroit game, and Brian will sit on
the sidelines and then we'll bring him in for the
second period of this show. Andrew, this is one in
which I, you know, while I understand the line, I
don't get the line and we always remember we had
the make me Understand segment. I know you talk about
the Red Wings and a little bit of regression coming in.
You know, Tampa Bay minus two eight right now, Detroit
plus one seventy one, and it totals at six here
in this one. I think this is one in which
you have to monitor who the goalie is for Detroit.
It's likely going to be Vassilevski for Tampa, but you know,
Tampa's hit a bit of a skid of late. Detroit
is still battling for you know, one of those places
in the Atlantic Division. You know with this obviously the
Sabers right now lead it, Tampa Bay in second, and
then I think Montreal and Detroit battling for that third one,
Montreal currently having that one. How would you play this one?
Is Detroit live to you? Or is this a get
well spot for the Tampa Bay Lightning.
Speaker 1: Well, this is one of those injury games here, Carmen,
because we've got two key injuries for the Detroit Red Wings.
I'm not sure they can overcome. But then of course
you just mentioned it already. We've got the minus two
to oh eight price tag here that you have posted
on the graphics, so we ask ourselves is that worth it?
But you're not just missing like one key player, You're
missing two key players. And you're not missing just two
key players, you're missing two centermen. And centermen are very
very important to the game of hockey. Of course, as
Dylan Larkin and Andrew Kopp are both going to be
out tonight, it's official for the Detroit Red Wings, so
that takes away scoring, but it also takes away shut
down defense, so that hurts them because now your top
two centerment JT. Komfer and Marco Casper. And I'm sorry,
but if you walk around the bar and you ask people, hey,
do you know who Marco Casper is? I think the
average fans probably not going to tell you they know
who those guys are. Unfortunately carm So you know, do
I like this one? I'll tell you I kind of
lean towards the under here. You know, I'm not seeing
anything poor as far as defensive metrics for the Red Wings.
I have seen offensive regression from them, so I do
lean towards the underside. Tampa Bay you mentioned it haven't
been playing their best hockey. Maybe we get a good
defensive effort out of them, Will other players step up?
Will we be able to figure out some player props
for Detroit and the guys missing. Maybe in the future,
But in this game, this is a game I like
the under in karm I think we could see a
defensive battle. I am going to buy into the injury
situation here. You're missing Larkin and you're missing Cop, two
key players. I think that make a big difference for
this team. And I've been talking about every day on
puck time. Man, this NHL Eastern Conference playoff race is
a big deal, and if you miss two of your
top centermen, you're in trouble.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's obviously it's definitely a concern. You know when
you look at the total, Andrew, I'm on the fence
on the total, and I'm not really leaning to the under.
I'm leaning a little more to the over, just because
of the fact that if I think it's a get
well spot for Tampa, I think they're going to score
some goals. You look at their last eleven games and
there's only been one game that's had fewer than six
goals in it. They're essentially over the last I think
eleven games. They are eight two and one to the
over a couple of games, landed on six and a
four to one game against the Winnipeg Jets, which is
normally you would figure Jets games are lower scoring. Pretty
much every other game has had more than six goals
scored in them returning home not playing extremely well, loses
of like four of their last five. And I think
it extends even further than that. You look at it.
If you like them, if you like Tampa Bay tonight,
I think you take them in regulation. I think if
you like them tonight, they're going to get a multi
goal win against the Detroit team. As you mentioned, that
is hurting right now. I can never lay two eights.
I'm just never going to do it. I'm going to
guess that with minus two eight, the regulation line is
probably in the minus one twenty five minus one thirty range.
I would rather take that and risk the chance that
the game doesn't go to overtime and pay less. Viig thoughts.
Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, I'm just checking it out right now, Carton
for you, because that would be the way to go.
And when you spoke there, what the second that you
said about the overlean but you said, hey, look, i
think it'll probably be just Tampa you know what my
mind and initially did was look towards Detroit to Yeah,
and it just I want, I always want to find
a way we can both win. Minus one twenty for
Detroit under uh two and a half for them, So
that's not too bad something I could probably deal with.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: For Tampa, they're making you play a little bit of
a price one thirty five, one forty for that rag line.
Speaker 4: So uh.
Speaker 1: But you know, I just think, you know how in football,
we look at Okay, this team is missing their quarterback,
maybe they can cover the spread this week. But the
thing is, we're not talking about covering spreads here. We're
talking about wins and Tampa Bay if we're talking about
handicapping motivation. As habs Relic in the in the chat
right now points out, Tampa tied the halves and Detroit
trying to stay within reach.
Speaker 4: This is going to be a battle. But this is
a big game for them.
Speaker 1: If you look at Tampa, Detroit and Boston right now,
this is a big game for all three of those guys,
but two of them are playing each other tonight, so
this is what they call a four point game. Car
four point games, So that's kind of another reason why
I like the under because when you have rivalry games,
maybe they're holding the sticks a little bit tighter, maybe
the defense is a little bit more and you know
what we could do And I never do this, but
I might start mentioning them plus three point thirty on
the draw on the overtime line, because if both teams
get a point, that really messes things up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it certainly does. Those three point games are a
bit of a disaster. But also not being able to
win a game in regulation, which is one of the
first tiebreakers, or is the first tiebreaker when we get
towards the end of the year, and we saw in
previous years some teams with only a few regulation wins
suffer because of that. So it's something I always see
to keep an eye on.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: I mentioned I just can't lay over two bucks on
Tampa Bay considering they've lost, and I get it. They
have a fantastic lineup and play a great hockey throughout
the year. They went on like I think it was
like a twenty and one streak or a twenty one
to one streak, which is which is an epic streak,
but they've lost six to their last seven games.
Speaker 3: Good teams are going to do that.
Speaker 2: The one win came against an AHL team, the Toronto
Maple Leafs, where they beat them five to two. So
I just for me, it just it is either take
the total and hope for some goals or completely pass
on this game. But we'll see how it shakes out.
It's such a huge card of games tonight. Let us
know in the chat, whether you're watching it live right
now or if you're watch later on on wager Talk TV,
who you like in tonight's game, and whether you think
it's going to be an over or an under. With
that said, let's Andrew discuss that AHL team, and let's
bring in Brian Leonard for this one, because he is
going to break down Anaheim and Toronto.
Speaker 3: Yes they're not an NHL or an AHL team, but
not an East Coast Hockey League team either, but they
were playing like it. You know, this is an interesting
handicap because you've got a team in Toronto that is
done terribly lately, and we'll get to that in a second.
They're at home and basically a pickup situation here against Anaheim.
They've dominated Anaheim. They's seven and one straight up against Anaheim.
But this isn't the same Anaheim team they played for
the last eight times. This isn't the same Toronto team
that Anaheim has played. So you've got to be able that,
you know, a big guy on a big thing on Trent,
but you've got to take the trend in and then
you've got a massage it a little bit and say, well,
this isn't the same team. And you know, when you
take a look at Anaheim, after playing three games and
four days to start the month, they settled into playing
every other day lately, and that's a good thing. That's
what if you were to ask hockey players, that would
be exactly what they want to play every other day.
And they've been very good lately. They're five and two
since the Olympic break, eight and two overall. We talked
about just what was it like a week or two ago,
just about the thoughts of Anaheim making the playoffs, and
we all agreed that, yeah, that was a good deal
that they were going to make the playoffs with the
schedule coming up and the teams around them that were struggling.
And I still think that in Anaheim right now is
really playing some good hockey. They've got five games, have
come against lately against our friends from Canada, all five
games being victories for the Ducks. They're five and no
last five against Canada, and right now they're in the
middle of a Canadian trip. After winning at Winnipeg four
to one. They play the slumpy Maple Leafs again tonight
and followed up with trips to Ottawa and Montreal. So
this is a confident Anahan team, even on the road,
even though they're a young team, They've been decent on
the road. They were like fourteen to seventeen on the road.
That's not bad. That's not a bad road team. Toronto's
basically the same record at home. Toronto has not been
good at home this year. They haven't been the same
team as they have in the past, and while the
Ducks climb up the ladder in the Western Conference playoff race,
the Maple Leafs are in a free fall, losing eight
games played since the Olympic break. In those eight games,
Toronto has been outscore thirty five to fifteen. That includes
losses to the Rangers, the Devils, the Flyers, the Senators,
and the Panthers, all teams currently out of the playoff race.
Toronto has a minus twenty six next goal differential in
the season, that's tied with it Devils for the worst
in the Eastern Conference. Like I said, with a sixteen
eleven and seven home record, I don't know why Toronto
is in this price range. It's clear that Anaheim's the
better team. Sure Toronto wants to get this off their chest,
but that all comes down to management and how long
these guys are going to play. And we see tanking
and other sports. We see less of it in hockey
than we do in basketball, obviously in baseball. But still
Toronto right now does not deserve to be a pick
them even at home against Anaheim. This is my free
play on the day. I like Anaheim Bright.
Speaker 2: You know it's funny, Andrew, because you're in Canada, you
hear it's even out there on the on the East Coast.
It is always. Toronto is the epicenter of NHL hockey.
I live just north of Toronto, twenty five minutes north
of Toronto. And it went from like one or two
years ago where the fans were yelling we want Florida
to now let's lose every game because they want to
protect their top five pick and that they're or sorry
their draft pick. They only they only they have to
finish bottom five in the NHL to protect to protect
that number one first round draft pick. So they wanted
to lose every game the last twenty games. Here's an
interesting number for you. The last twenty games for the Leafs,
they have not beaten an American team. Their wins have
come against Vancouver, Calgary, Winnipeg. They have not beaten an
American team. And last time we checked, Anaheim was in
the Great USA, So I got that. You know, I'm
a Ducks fan, Andrew stop anytime you want to jump
in or else, I'm just gonna chirp and chirp and
continue to chirp.
Speaker 4: Well, I got one for you guys.
Speaker 1: The Seattle Seahawks have a win more recently than the
Toronto May Beliefs do. How about that one these teams
won the Big Game, we had bad Bunny performing at halftime,
the Patriots lost, and the Super Bowl more recently than
the Toronto May be Leiefs have won a game. So
that's all you have to know about them. Somebody in
the chat yesterday said, we're living rent free. They live
in rent free in my head, and yeah, and it's
making me really happy. It's making me really happy, So yeah,
it definitely is. Brian, back to the betting stuff here.
When it comes to this number, what would it take
at this point? And I know this might be a
tricky question, but I'm gonna throw it at you anyway,
what would it take for you to be on Toronto
at this point?
Speaker 4: Like the quotes, the play the numbers that we're seeing.
Speaker 1: Because one positive thing I will say, if if I
can find one positive thing, is that they've finally decided
to give the youth and younger players more opportunity. But
that doesn't necessarily mean they're going to win games, but
at least for their development purposes, it's a good thing.
But I mean, what would it take for you, Like,
what would you have had to see when you woke
up this morning with the line to be even interested?
Speaker 3: Well, actually i'd seen it yesterday, so it didn't help
me any but it had to be like plus one
thirty at this point. It's got to be. There's a price,
And this is a lot of beginning betters want the team.
They want about this game. They don't care what the
line is. There is a price on every game in
which you could take either side, And if you're not
handicapping that way, you're not going to win money in
the long run. It's a numbers game. Every guy who
bets for a living, you're not betting teams, you're betting numbers.
VRS talks about it all the time. That's just the
way it is. And if I could get one thirty
with Toronto on this game, yeah, I'm interested in Toronto,
but if the current number being thirty eight cents different, no,
I want to Anaheim at that point. So yeah, there's
a price for anything. And so I'm not going to
say they're on my list. I'm never going to play
them again, but if it gets to that point. In fact,
there's another game today, Florida, And I've been fading Florida
for how long? Guys, I think a lot of us
are doing it. They're playing Coombus today, and now Columbus
is basically a pick them or a slight favorite. Finally
finally they caught up with Florida. How long did it
take them?
Speaker 2: All?
Speaker 3: Year long? Basically, So there's prices to play any team.
You just got to be able to know how to
get to that price.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, the interesting thing about Florida. That I
want to mention is I honestly believe that this off
season Florida is going to be like a seller. I
believe that there's some contracts that they don't want to
bring back. I mean, the fact that they were willing
to move Lebrovski at the trade deadline tells you what
they're playing is moving forward with him. So we shall see.
You know, they still have a solid team there, and
it's a tax free state, so you're always going to
have players who want to play there. But it's just retooling,
and Florida will retool and be just as good as
they were a couple of years ago. This year just
didn't work out with them, with the injuries and what
have you. In Toronto, it's tough to tank. It is
very tough to tank because players go out there. You
don't play at fifty of your speed, you don't play
at sixty five percent of your speed. You give it
you're all. The only the only way you could ever
put into place something like part of the Leafs tanking
is if suddenly on the weekend, Austin Matthews and William
Kneelander end up on the long term injury reserve for
some lower body injuries that aren't disclosed, and they don't
play another game for the rest of the season, then
that is a tank. That is a tank that everyone's
fully aware of, and they're doing it to lose as
many games as they can and protect their number one
pick because if they finish bottom five, they have a
shot at the first pick in the draft, and it's
Gavin McKenna. So it gives the Leafs.
Speaker 3: The Leafs.
Speaker 2: The Leafs aren't even gonna make the playoffs next year
with the current roster that they have. It is projected
that they won't even make it, so they are the
rebuild is going to start there at some point. I
might getting joy out of it a little bit, but
it's still a hockey show. I still do bet on
the Leafs when I just haven't done it since the
Super Bowl, Brian. But with that said, we'll see whether
the tank is real or not. Tonight's game should be
interesting because the Ducks have a lot more to play
for than obviously the Toronto may be Leiafs do.
Speaker 3: So ours And we see this in other sports all
the time, where they got the tank and going on, yeah,
these guys, the NHL. These guys are tough and they're
going out there. You're playing art. It's like it's like
in football. You have to go and play full out.
That's just the way you're taught. And if you're not,
somebody's going to knock your head across the you know,
the rank or the or the field. So it's it's
a little bit different than other sports. All right, let's
bring Andrew back in, and while we do that, a
quick shout out to don a Buster, our friend, uh
South South South of the Border. Don's got a five
percent play up in the NHL as well too. On
such a big card, obviously, there are a lot of
games that we're all going to to, Like, I don't
know what the play is, so I won't even say
I do. But best of luck that Donnie's have been
on a fantastic run as well too in the NHL.
So if clients are winning, then I'm always happy, whether
they're mine or other people's. If you guys are making money,
then the show is doing exactly what it's supposed to
be doing, educating betters and making money. Now I'm gonna
break down the next two games. We're gonna discuss I'll
be breaking them down a wager talk today. So I'm
gonna let these two humans with great heads of hair
break down the next two games, and we'll start it
with the Edmonton Oiters and the Dallas Stars. You can
go ahead, yeah, Ryan, Yeah, go ahead, go ahead, you started.
Speaker 4: All right? All right.
Speaker 1: Look, I'll just say this here, guys. This is one
of those games for me where you it's the kiss game.
It's the keep it simple, stupid game. Honestly, like when
you look at this game the Dallas Stars, every advanced metric,
everything points towards how well this team is playing. And
we can talk about the poor defense from the Oilers.
A lot of people will say, you know, which is it?
Is it the defense or the goaltending, And we've all
come to the conclusion, guys, that it's both. And Connor
Ingram gets injured the other day, Nathan McKinnon goes in
to him, sort of got pushed into him as well.
So welcome back into the number one starting role, Tristan
Jari because there's nobody else coming up for him, so
that's not really a good thing. Jarry has one of
the worst numbers you can see since joining this team
with the Oilers minus zero point five four to four
goals saved above expected, So each game he's given up
you know, a half a goal to a goal extra
that he probably should be. Meanwhile, look at the opposite
Attinger right now, he has a plus one point one
three to eight goals saved above expected, so much much better.
Speaker 4: The possession has been much better there.
Speaker 1: So this is one of those plays here for me
where I like Dallas but because of their great defense
and they're great goaltending, I actually wouldn't talk anybody off
of an Edmonton team total under either, because this could
actually be a team that slows down Edmonton's offense, especially
because Edmonton's offense is well pretty dominated by one or
two guys if we're being honest, like they haven't had
a lot of depth scoring lately. Now, I was feeling
pretty confident because yesterday on the show, I gave out
a power play point prop. So I figured I'd come
on here and do it once again here and this time, Brian,
we're not even going plus one seventy. We're going plus
one ninety. We've got Wyatt Johnston from the Dallas Stars
to get a power play point. And as I always
like to tell people. You know, this is a price
where you're able to get plus one ninety on the
power play point, but the regular point is minus two fifteen.
You've got a top two power play in the league
against a bottom five or six penalty kill in the league.
Penalty percentage penalty kill point is Wyatt Johnston plus one
ninety for a power play point.
Speaker 4: But but Brian, did do you see this?
Speaker 1: The game looks same way. Look, Oilers are playing better.
They strung off two wins against two good teams. Depending
on how you feel about Vegas right now. Well, but
this is one of those ones where for just weeks
and weeks and weeks, all of my charts that I
update daily have nothing but positive things to.
Speaker 4: Say about the Dallas Stars. What about you? Can you
find anything negative to say about this team?
Speaker 3: Not at all. We had Dallas the other day as
a play when they played the Golden Knights, and Dallas
talked about the rivalry between the teams because they've played
them all the time in the playoffs. Well, we've got
another one here is Dallas has won five in the
last six regular season and these two teams, including both
of them earlier this year, they win four to three,
and they win eight to three. But Edmonton has been
able to beat them in the playoffs, so Dallas will
not overlook Theminton despite their struggles this year, and in
watching that Dallas game, the Golden Knights just couldn'tkn not
get anything going offensively. There was no score in the
first period, no score in the third period, and all
Dallas did when they the lead, who's just toss it
down to the other end and kill the clock. Now, granted,
Edmond has got some guys that can break that break
into that offensive zone a lot easier than Vegas does,
but still that's the kind of game I expect to
see here. I think Dallas comes out, they take the
lead here, and yeah, I do like the It's not
often I like the Oilers team to oil it possibly under,
but I can agree on that here. I think Dallas
wins this game. And granted, you are playing a red
hot team in Dallas, and it's very similar to going
against Toronto in the other game. But a lot of times,
you know, I find value on going against the Streaks.
I don't think there's value in this one. I think
the value is clearly with Dallas. The team that's right. Now,
got the oilers you know where they want them, and
nobody wants to see the oilers get it together and
go to the playoffs. So extramating for Dallas here. I
like Dallas in this game, and I think the line's
pretty fair.
Speaker 1: I got one more question for Brian here, Karma, I'll
bring you back in. But when we look at advanced data.
You know I've talked to you yesterday.
Speaker 4: Brian. You know I'm a game watcher.
Speaker 1: I love watching the games and fall situations, but I've
gotten more into the analytics for you. How much do
you look at and how far back do you look at?
For myself, any sheets that I run, I'll download, punch
them into Excel. I'm pretty much a last five guy
because what they did seven or eight games ago could
have been a different road trip, could have been a
good slump or a bad slump. How far back do
you go? I prefer these days to mostly beyond the
last five train.
Speaker 3: Yeah, last five makes a lot of sense to me.
I'm not able to watch every game. Might also handicap
other sports too, as you guys do. But the teams
that I watch a lot like the Edmonton's in the
Vegas and you know the Pacific Division teams. It doesn't
take five games to tell me if they're playing well
or Now you go if you watch the game, especially
if it's a game you don't have a rooting interest in.
And I've always been very very direct with this. I
prefer to watch game. I don't have a bet on. Now,
other people look at it and they said, why would
you do that? Because I want to learn something. And
when you're betting a game, you're rooting for certain teams.
Like if you watch a boxing match and then we've
all done it. The guy that you've pick in the
boxing match, you've got your eyes focused on him the
entire time. You don't pay attention to the other guy.
And that's the way it is. So when I watch
those games, I like to watch games and I don't
have a play on, and then you could see regardless
of what the final score is, you can see how
the game is being played. The final score, as we
know in hockey all the time, it does not mean
that team was a better team. So if I could
find something to watch one or two games in a
row and I go, well, this is clearly they're having
problems getting in the offensive end, they're they're not protecting
the goaltender, that kind of thing. It could be less
games than that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Andrew, you know, I want to mention this one here,
this common here which I tend to agree with as
far as like how they're playing defensively, you know, I
mean after adding Connor Murphy, you know, he's he gives
that second line of defense. He's more of a shutdown guy.
So they have enough offensive weapons defensively and obviously offensively,
it is the defense that's hurt this team, and they're
playing a lot better defensively. I think at the moment,
you know, pretty much shut the Vegas down. The game
against Colorado. They go into Colorado and that's a big
signature type win for the Orders. Does it spark him
for tonight? I'm not entirely sure because this is a
Dallas team that's winning games. But it would have surprised
me if Edmonton went in and one tonight.
Speaker 4: It wouldn't. No, I get it. I get it.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing is that if you if you
ask me what one of the better trade line acquisitions
could have been this year, I think the sneaky one
is going to be him Connor Murphy.
Speaker 4: So we'll see.
Speaker 1: But some people are also saying, I'm not sure. If
I'm not who's the guy they picked up, Oh yeah,
Jason Dickinson. And they're saying, I'm not sure. Jason Dickinson
is an ideal shutdown guy, so he's gonna have to
be a really good bottom six player. But I'll tell
you what though, Guys, I saw a list put out
of the last four years trade deadline acquisitions for the
Edmonton Oilers. It made me sick to look at like
for a team that had Leon Drystetel and Connor McDavid,
for these guys that they've picked up, like they didn't
make one splash. The Avalanche just got in Nasen kadri back.
You know, some teams are getting these big stud players
and the Oilers are just like, ah, we'll take that
third fourth line player. Like it just blows my mind.
I think that I know a couple like you know,
twelve year old kids. My nephew could just make a
better team on NHL twenty five because he just knows
how a roster goes, like building his own team, Like
I don't get what the Bowman strategy was here. Karm
but we'll see what happens here with the Oilers. I'll
put it out right now. There's still value to win
the Stanley Cup on the Edmonton Oilers because they've got
Connor McDavid, they've got leon Draft title, and if you
can get a price over ten to one, I think
it's worth a bet, especially with that Pacific divisions very weak.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just you listen, You never know. I always
say the regular season is just a the exhibition season,
a prelude to what the playoffs bring in, and some
teams can turn it on. The Oiders have made it
to the Cup two years in a row in a
conference in which has Colorado and Dallas and the Vegas
Golden Knights. They found a way. You know, they were
behind the La Kings in a series in which looked
like they were gonna get eliminated and came back and
won that series. So and that's with the goaltending that
they had. So and it's not that much better right now,
but it is how they play in front. If they
can sort of get the playoffs and then rep licate
what they did when they went on that sixteen game
win streak, anything is possible in the NHL Playoffs. I
still remember the Montreal Canadians and Steve Penny the goalie
coming in and all the headlines were Pennies from Heaven
because he just backstopped the Montreal Canadians. So it's what
it is. So you guys have some good goalies that
have gone through there. I hear that Kerry Price guy
was pretty good, and maybe this Jacob Fowler is going
to be good as well too. You know what good is, Brian,
we discussed it before the show. Good is betting on
a plus fifteen hundred ticket that is now down to
plus seven to fifty. That is the Vegas Golden Knights
to miss the NHL Playoffs. It was at plus twenty
two hundred when we talked about it on the show.
I bet it at plus fifteen hundred. It's at plus
seven fifteen now their home. They're taking on the Pittsburgh Penguins.
Andrew no Malcolm, no Crosby and struggling now has the
steam run out of the Penguins train.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll just say this, I mean, what an absolute
ridiculous move by Evgeni Malkln. He's done it before, to
just whip his stick out a player and to just
damage his team the way he did.
Speaker 4: Karm. What a mistake by Malcolm.
Speaker 1: If you're Sidney Crosby and you were up there in
the press box and you see this guy go out
there and pretty much hand himself a few game suspension
at the very minimum, you got to be embarrassed. You
gotta be thinking, what is he thinking. I'm doing my
best to come back. I'm skating now, I'm getting warm again,
and I've got a player that's willing to do this.
I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous when you look at it.
But one thing I got to look at though, is
you've got a Pittsburgh offense that still remains playing pretty well.
Like this offense is still generating chances, and overall, I
think that this is a Vegas School and Knights team
that whether or not they're winning games or not, I
feel like.
Speaker 4: They're going to find their offense here.
Speaker 1: Brian I head the Vegas Golden Knights pegged as a
team that was underachieving as far as their analytics concerned. Offensively, Uh,
they got called out post Olympic break. You know, Mark
Stone on the ir now, but Jack Geigel and Mitch
Marnder and some of those guys. The coach said, hey, look,
you know, welcome back to Vegas. Okay, we need you
guys to be stars for Vegas now at this point.
And when you look at the last couple of games
for the Penguins five four, five four four, three, five
to one, like they've been involved in some higher scoring games,
and you've got guys again I said this earlier that
aren't necessarily household names that are stepping up. So I
like the over in this game. Actually, I think we
could see both teams generate some chances, and until we
see Pittsburgh's depth die out, I'm not going to give
up on this team. And what's really cool to think
about is that started the year and I was one
of the people hoping he got traded to Montreal. Everybody
was counting out this Pittsburgh team. And not only are
they sitting in a playoff spot, they're actually in the
divisional playoff spot. They're not even in a wild card Brian.
So we'll see what happens in the next fifteen games.
But for me, my play is the over in this game.
What do you have for us?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the over makes sense if they play up to
their abilities. Vegas has only averaged two goals a game
since the Olympic break. They look they don't look very
good offensively. Obviously, if we talked past about Stealin, but
he's such a big change on this team. Ayighton Hill's
actually played really well in the last two games. He
was on the chopping block. They were looking to trade
him away to bring in another goalie. Obviously nobody wanted
Hill with that contract they've got, so now he's got
to be thinking, you know what, he goes, where's my future?
Nobody else wanted me. I better give my acting gear.
And and he's played pretty well the last couple of games.
Now as of right now, if you heard who the
projected goalies are, because I haven't seen anything yet, if
Hill is in goal, I don't want to play the
over and it's that's sort of against what my feelings
have been just about all year with Hill, because he
hasn't been good, but he's he's starting to play better.
And but Vegas has not problems with the young teams.
They have problems with teams that skate faster than they do.
Without the two veterans. For Pittsburgh, I expect Pittsburgh to
really Outskate, Vegas in this game. Now, do I want
to take the plus one thirty? I don't know. This
is a this is a game that Vegas really needs
to have, And like we always say, if a team
needs to have a game, they're probably not very good.
Well they're not very good right now, but this part
of me thinks this is the game that they have
to have, and based on regardless of who the goal is,
I'm gonna probably be passing. Normally, I would be taking
Pittsburgh in this game, but without the two veterans, they're
they're a little bit short handed on experience, so that's
a pass for me.
Speaker 1: I'd like to get a better number on Pittsburgh to
jump in, but as long as they can contribute to
the over with me, you know, I'll take it. But
it takes two to dance there else you just look
weird dancing by yourself. So hopefully both teams can get
it going and we can get goals from both teams. Karen,
we always discuss it the dreaded for to one lead
for totals. You don't want you need both teams to
do something. You need it is something, listen.
Speaker 2: It's absolutely is the worst you know, I mean like
the question I would ask you guys, because I like,
I already know my answer to this question. But it's
because we've seen it more this year the NHL. And
you look at the standings and if you looked at
these standings at the beginning of the year or before
the season started, you would have thought someone logged in
half drunk when putting the stand needs up on ESPN
or the NHL dot com page. It's just, you know,
the Devils, the Rangers, the Panthers, the Leafs all out
of the playoffs, the LA Kings. It's just it just
doesn't seem right. The question for you guys is this
is it's not the must win means they should win,
But at what point do we say, and you know,
we can put aside whatever happens tonight with the Vegas
Golden Knights in the Pittsburgh Penguins because they're getting a
penns team that's struggling right now and missing some players.
But at what point do we say, maybe Vegas doesn't
make the playoffs or is that one that's dependent on
the LA Kings and the Seattle Krack and winning their games.
I think the Krack can have two games in hand
on Vegas, but they have Colorado up next. At what
point do you guys say, I'm not gonna bet on doubt.
I'm not gonna bet on Vegas just because it's a
must win.
Speaker 3: There's only one game on the upcoming scale, two games,
maybe maybe three games to the end of the month
in which Vegas should get the victories Chicago. They play
Chicago at home in two days. They play Washington at home.
The way Washington is playing, they play them on the
twenty eighth, as long as the former night isn't a
goal because I don't think they've scored on him yet
this year. And then they play Vancouver. But they also
have games with Buffalo, Utah is playing really good hockey, Nashville,
who's playing a little bit better hockey now, Dallas, and
Winnipeg on the road. So the rest of this month
is gonna be tough. I think they win maybe maybe.
If they can come out of this with four wins,
that's a good rest of the month. And I don't
think they're going to get any more than four renutes.
So if I'm looking about that right now, I don't
think they make it. You take a look at the
schedule on Right now, they're in seventh out of eight
teams make the playoffs. They're in seventh, they're five points
ahead of Seattle. LA's made some improvements. LA's tied with
Seattle right there. San Jose I like this team, especially
at home. They played with a lot of guts. Their
only point behind Nashville's a point behind. Winnipeg is four
points behind that, so they got a ten point lead
over the twelfth place Winnipeg right now. That's probably too much,
but the other guys can easily pass up to Vegas.
They need to turn it around. And it's a lot
of frustration. And normally, if we find a team that
comes into this part of the season who was expected
to be really good and they have not gotten that
really good play this year, that's frustrating for them. And
it's like a veteran team that's expected to make the
playoffs and they're not playing well. They could fall apart
in no time. So that more disasters ahead for Vegas
as opposed to the brightness.
Speaker 1: And for them, there's been nobody really around them right
that's winning. It's like it's like if you're in a
race and you start to get tired, but everybody else
around you's getting tired too.
Speaker 4: All you got to do is.
Speaker 1: Stay in front of those people, right Like, it doesn't
matter how you're doing it. It matters more but people
behind you and how they're doing It's like, if somebody's
chasing you, you just want to make sure that you're
faster than the other guy getting chased.
Speaker 3: Chasing you. You're good being the second slowest guy.
Speaker 2: If you go to Pamplona, Spain every year for the
running of the bulls, all you gotta do is be
faster than the guys that are beside you or behind
you when they let those bulls go. So I don't
know if you ever got to YouTube and you punch
in Pampolona, Spain running the bulls to have the live
cams that they put throughout the streets, and there are
some great videos of when a guy gets he just
kind of slows down and ends up being flipped like
a pancake by one of the bulls. It's absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 3: I was gonna do.
Speaker 2: Running into the bulls and then I sobered up. But
with that said, Bry, if the Vegas Golden Knights were smart,
they would fly me in I am nine and oh
lifetime at Vegas Golden Knight games, and you took advantage
of it. You and Marco came to see a game
with me along with Marco's wife. A fantastic game. And
uh and your wife was there as well too. And
when I mentioned that in the third period, you live
bet Vegas and they came back and won the game
against the Elie Kings.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was a fun bet. It was.
We had a good time. I love going to hockey
games with you guys. It's we always have a lot
of fun. And uh, yeah, it's gonna be interesting how
this season ens here in Vegas and what happens afterwards.
Speaker 4: The thing got of the dance. It's like march madness.
Just get in punch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, And that's the way a lot of
teams feel that way because you fight all year and
you see that a lot in the NBA, like the
Clefland Cavaliers maybe fighting all year to get that home
advantage and then they get in the playoffs and and
they've been through it. Now they're playing, they're resting their guys,
they're doing the smart thing like a veteran team should do.
I've got four percent playing up on the site for hockey.
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so much better when Andrew's got his coffee with him.
He's all happy and I've got my tea. Brian, listen, man,
best of luck, and I appreciate you hanging in and
doing a couple extra games so I didn't have to
repeat myself in thirty minutes or so.
Speaker 3: That's anything I can do to help you out. Man.
Speaker 2: We'll see you in April, my friend. We'll see you
in April.
Speaker 4: All right, Brian Andrew.
Speaker 2: Nice plus one to seventy hit for you yesterday here
on the show. You got to have a few more
winners for us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, good day, Good day for the props. Calm, good
day the props. A good week for the props, I
should say, because.
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the same game parlays I've been giving. If you if
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So that's kind of what we're hoping for when we
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Speaker 4: I've got a.
Speaker 1: Same game parlay and it's a real same game parlay.
It's actually just on one game. I'm having trouble loading
it up and it's a really nice graphic, so I
have I might have to send it to you. Carm Oh,
here we go, Here we go, we got it, Here
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Jason Robertson won four shots on goal, Matt Dushane one point,
Dallas Stars money line plus five fifty. I always say
it's the same game parlay segment. This is actually a
same game parlay, just one game, one game only, and
only Dallas Stars players. You guys get the hint where
I'm going with this one. Look a lot of people
like Dallas today. It's not gonna talk me off it.
Wyatt Johnston. I like his power play point as well.
Plus one ninety. We'll take the one plus point for
the same game parlay. Robertson a shooting machine, the Oilers
give up a ton of shots, and Matt de Shane's
been so sneaky lately playing pretty well for this team,
and of course Dallas to win it. So it's four
legs for five p fifty KRM. But this team is
projected to have themselves a knight, so all four of
these guys to get the job done. Plus five fifty
not too bad for a same game parlay, and we'll
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So the first period over both teams to score one
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Speaker 4: We'll wrap things up. Let's have ourselves a winning night.
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