Speaker 1: Next on the drive, Tim McMahon dropping dimes for your
Speaker 1: NBA Daily Assis.
Speaker 2: Ban McMahon, Van McMahan batted all Land Texas flood as
Speaker 2: thicke as mud He's and Manvan McMahon Van McMahan, the man.
Speaker 1: Whoa up like it was Christmas morning. Could feel the excitements,
Speaker 1: wondered why forgot what day it was? Then I realized
Speaker 1: today is the final of the NBA Cup in Vegas.
Speaker 1: We go live to Vegas now where our guy Tim
Speaker 1: McMahon is splitting eights and aces, realizes that two could
Speaker 1: be the dealers, wild Tim, are we up or down
Speaker 1: so far in Vegas?
Speaker 3: Oh? We are eating because I have not bet one
Speaker 3: single nickel on this trip.
Speaker 1: And promise me that you will not. You realize that
Speaker 1: that is a death sentence at those tables.
Speaker 3: Yes, I am well aware of how all these large
Speaker 3: casinos have been built.
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, fair enough, you're a smart guy. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what we could do worse than this matchup? Right,
Speaker 1: Bucks thunder tonight to Team Mobile. What do you make
Speaker 1: of what we could see tonight?
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, it's funny because both of these franchises are
Speaker 3: a kind of myth that they were left out of
Speaker 3: the Christmas Showcase this year, and so here they are.
Speaker 3: They've got the stage shoot themselves, and you know, these
Speaker 3: might be the two leading MVP candidates at this point
Speaker 3: of the season. That's obviously debatable because Jokers is so good.
Speaker 3: You know, the Nuggets have kind of poked their head
Speaker 3: above that play in territory that I think he has
Speaker 3: to be out of to really be Cannon to be
Speaker 3: MVP again. But obviously shake Gildis Alexander and Jalla Santocupo.
Speaker 3: These guys are both having unbelievable seasons and the Bucks
Speaker 3: bad start. They've won twelve or fifteen, and I am
Speaker 3: really excited to see how Yannis and Dame fair against
Speaker 3: the defense that is the best in the league by
Speaker 3: a healthy march by a couple of points fer one
Speaker 3: hundred possessions.
Speaker 1: So and I want to follow up about Okace in
Speaker 1: a moment, but just in the space of the NBA Cup,
Speaker 1: you know, I watched the semi finals and just from
Speaker 1: a television standpoint, the crowd didn't seem to be all
Speaker 1: that into it. It looked like a more of like
Speaker 1: a corporate crowd of sponsors and such and I think
Speaker 1: tim for this thing to really take, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of the next step forward. If there was a crowd
Speaker 1: that felt like there was a lot on the line,
Speaker 1: that would make a difference. So what's what's the feel
Speaker 1: like down there? Is there legitimate buzz that this NBA
Speaker 1: Cup Final is something people are really interested in?
Speaker 3: You know, like, look, they got fortunate last year that
Speaker 3: the Lakers were in it, and obviously the Lakers in
Speaker 3: addition to being the most popular NBA franchise, it's a
Speaker 3: short drive, you know, about a four hour drive to
Speaker 3: La so it was essentially a Lakers home type of
Speaker 3: atmosphere last year. That's not the case this year. I
Speaker 3: would say the crowds have been fine. You know, they
Speaker 3: were fortunate that the Falcons happened to be playing Monday
Speaker 3: night football in Vegas, so there were a lot of
Speaker 3: Atlanta people in town. You know, let's go Hawks type
Speaker 3: of chance, that sort of thing we're going on. You know,
Speaker 3: this hasn't It's not like this has been a tough ticket.
Speaker 3: I'm curious to see what the crowds like tonight. And
Speaker 3: you know, there is some talk about being a championship
Speaker 3: game only in Vegas type of thing moving forward where
Speaker 3: those semi finals will be at home arenas I personally
Speaker 3: before that, I think in terms of atmosphere, obviously it's
Speaker 3: a huge difference if you're playing in Oklahoma City or
Speaker 3: if you're playing in Milwaukee versus a neutral site in Vegas,
Speaker 3: and I think you're also in that instance. You know,
Speaker 3: there's more reward for these teams that have earned the
Speaker 3: top seed through group play. So we'll see if that's
Speaker 3: something that comes to fruition, but it's at least a conversation.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like kids getting the buy in from
Speaker 1: the players it needs. Do you feel like these games
Speaker 1: are competitive and players are showing up and they really
Speaker 1: care about winning this thing?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I don't here's any question about that, you know,
Speaker 3: especially as it gets deeper into group play and the
Speaker 3: players realize, you know, who has a chance to advance,
Speaker 3: and like, dude, it has been playoff type of intensity
Speaker 3: in terms of these knockout games. And look, obviously part
Speaker 3: of that is players want the money, you know, a
Speaker 3: half million dollar bonus to the players that are winning teams,
Speaker 3: you know, all those kind of things. But you know,
Speaker 3: you give these guys something to compete for a title.
Speaker 3: To compete for midway through the season. It's absolutely adding
Speaker 3: some juice to it. And I really like the format
Speaker 3: where everything counts in the regular season as well. It's
Speaker 3: just you know, extra incentive on top of those games
Speaker 3: until obviously this game another tweak I would like to
Speaker 3: see happen, though. I think the winner of the championship.
Speaker 3: I think the win should count in regular season standings
Speaker 3: and other or to kind of be like the ultimate
Speaker 3: tiebreaker where the loss would But I think that would reward,
Speaker 3: you know, just another reward for franchise that's able to
Speaker 3: get through this thing and win the title.
Speaker 1: So it's really difficult to from a media standpoint, whether
Speaker 1: you're a writer or you blab into a microphone or
Speaker 1: you do a little TV to try to make the
Speaker 1: jazz interesting. It all this year. But the okay, see
Speaker 1: thing and look, this is a loose parallel, but Oklahoma City,
Speaker 1: Like if you don't like Salt Lake, Oklahoma City, if
Speaker 1: you've ever been there, I'll due respect, I'll take Salt
Speaker 1: Lake City. So this is a market where we can
Speaker 1: draw some parallels, respectfully to my friends down and Okay, see,
Speaker 1: I've been there a couple of times. I'd prefer where
Speaker 1: I live. But and obviously what Sam Presty has done
Speaker 1: to make them awesome now and set themselves up to
Speaker 1: be awesome forever should be celebrated. The Athletic did their
Speaker 1: you know, Sam Amking, those guys do a great job,
Speaker 1: and they did the front office Kings and OKC was one.
Speaker 1: He pulled a bunch of other NBA exacs. So from
Speaker 1: a market to market standpoint, try to draw some comparison
Speaker 1: and some hope that maybe the whole market thing is
Speaker 1: something we can throw out the window because of what
Speaker 1: Sam has built there. But before we get into what
Speaker 1: they're doing this year, what do you make of the
Speaker 1: way Sam Pressing that front office have gone about building
Speaker 1: this thing up to be awesome now and in a
Speaker 1: position to be great for a long time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean looks it's been a very patient rebuild.
Speaker 3: And obviously they were able to stockpile picks and they
Speaker 3: still have just a massive stockpile, and I think you'll
Speaker 3: continue to see them trading quality for potential quality down
Speaker 3: the road, you know, to keep that pipeline coming. You know,
Speaker 3: they also got extremely fortunate. It's the only time in
Speaker 3: NBA history that a team was able to essentially trade
Speaker 3: the rights of a future Hall of Famer without ever
Speaker 3: having that guy in the roster. And I'm talking about
Speaker 3: Kawhi Leonard. Of course, like that Paul George trade, Paul
Speaker 3: George had a ton of value by himself at that point.
Speaker 3: I mean, he was I think third and MVP voting
Speaker 3: that previous year, and you know, an All NBA player.
Speaker 3: But the reason they were able to get so much
Speaker 3: from the Clippers is because they were essentially saying, hey,
Speaker 3: we'll help deliver Kawhi Leonard to you. They're in LA
Speaker 3: with this Paul George deal, and he gets Shaye Gilds
Speaker 3: Alexander from that, and then you know, the picks are
Speaker 3: like Jalen wore, they didn't think they were going to
Speaker 3: get a lot of kick that early out of that deal,
Speaker 3: but they did. That's Jaylen Williams, a bona fide co
Speaker 3: star on a team that was number one seat in
Speaker 3: the Western Conference last year. You know they might get
Speaker 3: another lottery pick or two out of that deal. So
Speaker 3: I mean, what a foundation to start from. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: look the Jazz, they don't have a Shane Gildas Alexander
Speaker 3: type of talent on the roster. It's gonna be hard
Speaker 3: to get that type of talent. But you know, having
Speaker 3: Sta and Sja developing into an MVP Canada, that's what
Speaker 3: really accelerated to rebuild as much as anything Proclahoma City.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well said, because while I tried to do the
Speaker 1: parallels between teams that I've been rebuilding and now have
Speaker 1: a little bit of hope, because the Jazz are rebuilding
Speaker 1: with very little hope, and it's a fan base that's
Speaker 1: pretty bummed out. Like Orlando has Polo right and OKAC
Speaker 1: has Shay and and the Jazz have Lowry and Lowry's
Speaker 1: very very good. But until you get that guy, it's
Speaker 1: hard to see the forest through the trees. But let's
Speaker 1: go back to Okasee about what stands out most to you.
Speaker 1: We had Tom Habersha on yesterday and I watched the
Speaker 1: OKC Jazz game about I think you were maybe you
Speaker 1: were there if I remember correctly, And I haven't seen
Speaker 1: every single game they play, but every time I dial
Speaker 1: in on them, I keep using this parallel. They're like
Speaker 1: safeties in football on defense, they're ballhawks. There's no room
Speaker 1: and so you know, ultimately I feel like they have
Speaker 1: separated themselves a bit in the West. But what do
Speaker 1: you like most about this group that we have in
Speaker 1: front of us, Even without Chet and without Hartenstein at
Speaker 1: the beginning, they've just been the best team in the West.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any argument there.
Speaker 3: They are seventeen and two and they have a seven
Speaker 3: foot are available to the entire game. Three of their
Speaker 3: losses came during that little you know. One was the
Speaker 3: game Sht got hurt, which was he played like five
Speaker 3: minutes and change in that game. Then they lost two
Speaker 3: more games during that little stretch where Chet was out
Speaker 3: and Hartstein hadn't fully recovered from the broken hand yet.
Speaker 3: But they've got a big mander seventeen and two. This
Speaker 3: is you know, this team is. It's an awesome team.
Speaker 3: And again we start with the fact they've got a
Speaker 3: bona fide MVP cannon. Maybe the MVP favorite at this
Speaker 3: morning in shaeis Alexander. But they are loaded. They are
Speaker 3: loaded with depth, and they are loaded with two way talents.
Speaker 3: There are no weak points to attack defensively. Yeah, look,
Speaker 3: they have maybe I would say three of what the
Speaker 3: top ten premer defenders in the league. Like lou Dort.
Speaker 3: The fact he has not been all defensive team yet
Speaker 3: is insane. It's ridiculous. It's honestly, it's since for the voters,
Speaker 3: he's he's one of the best stoppers in the league.
Speaker 3: You know what Caruso is and yeah, you mentioned a
Speaker 3: ball hawk, right, he is elite that regard Cason Wallace,
Speaker 3: he is the best defender that people don't really know about.
Speaker 3: You're starting to learn about him. And then you know
Speaker 3: Jalen Williams, you guys averaging two steals a game. He
Speaker 3: you know, he doesn't have to take one of the
Speaker 3: top two or three toughest defensive assignments anymore, but he's
Speaker 3: capable of that. It's just as you said, they are
Speaker 3: so good defensively, not just getting stops, but getting turnovers
Speaker 3: that turn into offense. And then you know they have
Speaker 3: a guy who's going to average thirty points efficiently to
Speaker 3: run the show on the other end.
Speaker 1: So a thought on tonight, and ultimately, as you referenced,
Speaker 1: Milwaukee's really turned it around after a rough start. I
Speaker 1: know Middleton at last check was game time. Maybe you
Speaker 1: have information as to whether or not he's going to play.
Speaker 1: Of course, he means a lot to them. He's always
Speaker 1: been one of the more underrated, really good players in
Speaker 1: pro basketball. Guy that went for a forty piece in
Speaker 1: the NBA Finals. We're big game fans around here, so
Speaker 1: excited to see them turn it around. What do these
Speaker 1: two teams do well and what do you make of
Speaker 1: this matchup? Okase is a five point five point favorite.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean okay See again. Defensively one of the
Speaker 3: most dominant defenses we've seen in recent NBA history. Shay
Speaker 3: is just smooth as could be. He's going to get
Speaker 3: his thirty. You know, Jalen Williams a legitimate All Star
Speaker 3: type of talent. But still the one, you know, potential
Speaker 3: flaw for the Sokse team is they're still pretty small.
Speaker 3: You know, with Hart and Stein that helps. He's not
Speaker 3: just a double double guy, but a dozen guys doesn't
Speaker 3: points a dozen rebounds. But like last year, and Mark
Speaker 3: Bagnall mentioned this, they were physically mold is the way
Speaker 3: he put it. When they went to Milwaukee to play
Speaker 3: against the Bucks. And then Gianna's had thirty and nineteen
Speaker 3: in that game. And you know, Okaysee's not unique in
Speaker 3: this regard, but they don't have a great matchup for Yannis.
Speaker 3: It's obviously gonna have to be a team thing. But
Speaker 3: if Wawawk's gonna win this game, I think it's because
Speaker 3: Janni's just has the kind of performance of reminds you
Speaker 3: that's the three times MVP, a Finals MVP, and a
Speaker 3: guy who still has a chance to add to that
Speaker 3: trophy plex.
Speaker 1: Malik mcmannimon is announcing that Chris Middleton is doubtful for
Speaker 1: the NBA Cup. Is that yeah? She just tweeted out
Speaker 1: NBA Cup Final against Oklahoma City Middleton is doubtful tonight.
Speaker 1: So that's out there as well. Have has Milwaukee's recent
Speaker 1: resurgence rethought your place in the East at all with them?
Speaker 3: Listen, they have a chance because they have such a
Speaker 3: you know, such a big time star duo. I think
Speaker 3: it's pretty apparent and obvious to say that everybody in
Speaker 3: the East, and he really had bring the league's chasing
Speaker 3: the Boston Celtics, and I know Cleveland's gotten off to
Speaker 3: an amazing start. I would be surprised if somebody other
Speaker 3: than the Celtics came out of East Conference. Milwaukee is
Speaker 3: one of the team that you give a puncher's chance.
Speaker 3: But if the Celtics are healthy that you know, don't
Speaker 3: I don't think last year's title will be the only
Speaker 3: one that that group wins. Something like that.
Speaker 1: I agree with you there have you seen it now
Speaker 1: from OKC to feel like the narrative in the West
Speaker 1: should be the same as it is in the East.
Speaker 1: Everybody is really chasing one team.
Speaker 3: Well, I would say that I'm not going to go
Speaker 3: that far simply because they haven't done it yet. Right,
Speaker 3: the Celtics have done it. They've come, They've won the
Speaker 3: East twice in the last few years, they've won a championship.
Speaker 3: You know this Oklahoma City squad. Last year's was the
Speaker 3: first taste of the playoffs. They got knocked out by
Speaker 3: the Mavericks. So Oklahoma City is the most talent team.
Speaker 3: Talented team is the best team. But I don't think
Speaker 3: you can say everybody's chasing the Thunder when the Thunder
Speaker 3: haven't won to get the Thunder or you know, they're
Speaker 3: chasing getting out of the West for the first time.
Speaker 3: I think they're the best team. I think the Matis
Speaker 3: are the second best team. I think we'll have a
Speaker 3: little red river Western Conference finals and you know, you
Speaker 3: the center of established themselves in the favorite. But I
Speaker 3: promise you it is you know the guys in the
Speaker 3: Maveris locker room, they're not looking at it as they're
Speaker 3: chasing Oklahoma City. They're looking as Oklahoma City is trying
Speaker 3: to take their West title.
Speaker 1: Away from I have nothing interesting to ask you about
Speaker 1: the Jazz, So I was thinking about this when I
Speaker 1: saw you on the rundown today. Here's what I'll ask.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're the guy for this franchise from the
Speaker 1: national big picture perspective, and I know that you're a
Speaker 1: pro at creating relationships, and you know the guys down there,
Speaker 1: and you know Xanak, and I know you know Will,
Speaker 1: and I'm just wondering if you've had any conversations with
Speaker 1: them because because look, it doesn't make for great sports
Speaker 1: soccer radio. Here's the deal, Like, they're well aware of
Speaker 1: what they're doing, and you know, there's nothing I can
Speaker 1: say that they don't know. They know that they're not
Speaker 1: in a good place, and I can't imagine the frustration
Speaker 1: for Will as a competitor. Night in the night out,
Speaker 1: I'm watching that Clipper game last night. It didn't then
Speaker 1: look like two pro teams. It was unfair and the
Speaker 1: Clippers are just average. They're without most of their you know,
Speaker 1: some of their better, better talent. But what are the
Speaker 1: nature of the conversations you have with jazz brass front office, ownership, coaches,
Speaker 1: and is this just pain tolerance and we're going to
Speaker 1: suck it up and a long game type thing like
Speaker 1: illuminate us a little bit on some intel if you
Speaker 1: have any.
Speaker 3: I mean, they have to play the long game. And
Speaker 3: and you know, last the last couple of years, if
Speaker 3: we're being honest, they're too competitive for their own good.
Speaker 3: And then you know they kind of pull the plug
Speaker 3: come trade deadline and you end up mid to late
Speaker 3: lottery picks, Like this team needs at least one high
Speaker 3: lottery tick, if not a couple, uh to to really
Speaker 3: provide the foundation to get back to where they want
Speaker 3: to be. And you know, they knew going in this
Speaker 3: season this was going to be a long, painful, miserable
Speaker 3: season and they just had to have that level of
Speaker 3: pain tolerance, you know. And it's not fun now, you know.
Speaker 3: And it's this Will Hardy I think has proven if
Speaker 3: you give him pieces, he can he can win games. Right.
Speaker 3: This is a completely different kind of challenge. Because player
Speaker 3: development it can be used as a euphemism for talent
Speaker 3: but they are legitimately trying to develop, slash evaluate the
Speaker 3: young talent on the roster. And when you know it's
Speaker 3: going to be this sort of a season where, if
Speaker 3: we're being just blunt about as the primary goal is,
Speaker 3: you end up with a golden lottery, take it out
Speaker 3: of this deal. You don't want bad habits to creep in.
Speaker 3: You don't want young players to accept, you know, losing
Speaker 3: and have that lose and mentality creep in. And that's
Speaker 3: a really tough challenge I think for a coach in
Speaker 3: this situation.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you, point blank a question I was
Speaker 1: asked on a show I did a week ago for
Speaker 1: my buddy who does a nick podcast. When the Jazz
Speaker 1: are good again, When the Jazz are good again and
Speaker 1: not just thirty five wins, when they're one of the
Speaker 1: teams in the West that is throwing punches, Who on
Speaker 1: this roster is on that team?
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, there's no guarantees. First of all, because
Speaker 3: there's not an untouchable on the roster. Obviously, Larry Markin
Speaker 3: is not being traded this year and they see him
Speaker 3: as a major piece. But when this thing turns around,
Speaker 3: but there's no guarantee there, and you know, something could
Speaker 3: come up where it makes sense to move him once
Speaker 3: he's allowed to be traded again, I would say the
Speaker 3: same thing about Walker Kessler. You asked me, who are
Speaker 3: the guys who are most likely? I would start with
Speaker 3: those two. You know, I think Cody Williams is going
Speaker 3: to end up being a good NBA player. Obviously he's
Speaker 3: not anywhere near that right now, but you know, I
Speaker 3: was talking to somebody in the Hawks fit office this
Speaker 3: week when they're in Vegas, and they mentioned that he
Speaker 3: was one of the four guys as they were really
Speaker 3: evaluating as a potential number one pick. They knew it
Speaker 3: was going to be a three or four year process
Speaker 3: Foray develop but they felt like he had the talent
Speaker 3: to Podisi end up being the best player in this class.
Speaker 3: So you know, it's again I would say Mark, then
Speaker 3: I would say Kessler, and I would say we'll see,
Speaker 3: but I think some of these young guys are gonna
Speaker 3: end up beating baughdy NBA players.
Speaker 1: All right, before I say you loose, you know, this
Speaker 1: is the time of year. After that deadline comes and goes,
Speaker 1: Now about eighty seven percent of the league can be
Speaker 1: traded and The one name that has surfaced is Jimmy Butler,
Speaker 1: who could actually make a difference. And you know, Shams
Speaker 1: your guy over at ESPN taken over for woj. He
Speaker 1: he did float out the scenario of Phoenix kicking the
Speaker 1: tires there. And I'll tell you what, Tim, I went
Speaker 1: to the Jazz Suns game last Friday, and it was
Speaker 1: never it was never really in doubt, But there is
Speaker 1: a little there's something with the Suns that I think
Speaker 1: they could utilize somebody with the bite like Jimmy Butler has.
Speaker 1: When Jimmy's head is right and obviously brad Biel can't
Speaker 1: stay healthy. I feel like if Phoenix goes all in
Speaker 1: on making the Butler move, that's something that could change
Speaker 1: things out this way. Any intel as to whether or
Speaker 1: not that's a real possibility, and if not, where do
Speaker 1: you think Jimmy goes Well?
Speaker 3: The problem is Number one, Brady Deal has got a
Speaker 3: no trade clause, and I think he would wave that
Speaker 3: to go to Miami. But Miami, I cannot see the
Speaker 3: Miami Heat trading for Bradley Deal with that no trade
Speaker 3: clause intact. I think he would wave it to go
Speaker 3: to Miami. I don't think he would wave it on
Speaker 3: a permanent basis, you know, just like he was able
Speaker 3: to hold onto that when he accepted the trade to Phoenix.
Speaker 3: And frankly, look, if Miami wanted to deal that badly,
Speaker 3: they would have got him the first time around when
Speaker 3: it was known that that was his preferred destination. And
Speaker 3: if Miami is going to commit one hundred and ten
Speaker 3: million dollars to a thirty something year old player over
Speaker 3: the next couple of years, I think they would have
Speaker 3: just signed Jimmy to an extension. So I think that
Speaker 3: deal absolutely would make sense from the Sun's perspective. I
Speaker 3: just don't think Miami fight on it for you know,
Speaker 3: the variety of reasons. If you if you had me
Speaker 3: guess the most likely destination, I would still say the
Speaker 3: Golden States. You know they've got obviously, you know, they've
Speaker 3: been got a big game hunt for a little while.
Speaker 3: They were trying to talk about marking in the Paul
Speaker 3: George thing over the summer, you know, so that would
Speaker 3: be the most likely. As far as Houston, the Rockets
Speaker 3: front office has been very adamant they're not looking to
Speaker 3: get a mid thirties guy. They're looking to let it
Speaker 3: play out this year, and if they add somebody it's
Speaker 3: a star in his twenties to start earlier, entering his prime,
Speaker 3: you know, things could change, But that one would surprise me.
Speaker 1: And then you know.
Speaker 3: Dallas that I would be just shocked by that they'd
Speaker 3: have to give up half of their rotation and then
Speaker 3: commit to having Jimmy making fifty plus mil next year
Speaker 3: going forward as well as Kyrie and Luca. That's going
Speaker 3: to be enough to build out a championship caliber supporting
Speaker 3: cast around that.
Speaker 1: You had to put the Tim mcman paycheck on one
Speaker 1: jazz player getting moved prior to the deadline. Who is
Speaker 1: that player and why?
Speaker 3: First, well, I would never put if I'm not going
Speaker 3: to put a nickel down in Vegas, I'm not going
Speaker 3: to put my paycheck on somebody getting traded. I'll put
Speaker 3: it to you like that. You know, Jordan Clarkston Collin
Speaker 3: Sexton would be the two, you know, bucket getters that
Speaker 3: I think could help bid teams. And then you know,
Speaker 3: obviously there's a possibility with John Collins. I still think
Speaker 3: the fact he's making twenty five mil next year makes
Speaker 3: that a little bit more difficult, but he's obviously had
Speaker 3: a very efficient season this year to uh, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe maybe there's a team that would be willing to
Speaker 3: bite on him.
Speaker 1: All right, Tim, we'll set you loose. Enjoy that game tonight.
Speaker 1: Thanks for the time, buddy. We'll chat to him all right.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you, brother, Hight Great Tim mcman the NBA Cup
Speaker 1: finalist tonight. How many of how many of our listeners
Speaker 1: do you think knew even knew that when they woke
Speaker 1: up today was the final of the Emirates NB Cup?
Speaker 1: All of them? Very few? You're big in the NBA.
Speaker 1: In the NBA's few. Yeah, it's it's just I was
Speaker 1: thinking about this doing the prep this morning. Did you
Speaker 1: watch any of the Jazz Clippers game last night? A
Speaker 1: little bit? It was? It was on.
Speaker 4: It was a joke, I should say it was on
Speaker 4: the TV.
Speaker 1: I turned it off at halftime. I never turned Jazz
Speaker 1: games off, like James Harden got whatever, and it's James Harden.
Speaker 1: It goes back to Will's press conference after the Laker
Speaker 1: game when Dalton connect hit eight threes. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: everyone in the arena knew that Dalden was about to
Speaker 1: shoot the three, except for the players that apparently were
Speaker 1: playing for the team, play a little defense, try try,
Speaker 1: try do something like I'm watching them yelling at the TV,
Speaker 1: like take away his airspace, like get up into him,
Speaker 1: make it uncomfortable. They were warm up practice walk in
Speaker 1: off the dribble or off the catch threes for James Harden,
Speaker 1: who I believe is second all time in three point shots,
Speaker 1: made like I'm not a hardened guy, but know the
Speaker 1: personnel a little bit.
Speaker 4: Did you ever hear before Kobe passed away, like pretty
Speaker 4: close before he passed away him talking about accidental basketball?
Speaker 1: Yes, well here we are. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's uh,
Speaker 1: it's tough, man. I mean it's funny because I try
Speaker 1: to look at these teams in order to do the
Speaker 1: show and cover the Jazz and cover the league. I
Speaker 1: look at teams like Orlando. I look at teams like
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City. I look at teams like Houston, who not
Speaker 1: too long ago, we're kind of in this same area
Speaker 1: where the Jazz are at. Houston's an interesting one because
Speaker 1: you know Orlando as Apollo, who's awesome. Of course, OKC
Speaker 1: has Shay who might be the MVP. Who is Houston's
Speaker 1: best player? Sheng Goon, Jalen Green van Vliet, Like they
Speaker 1: don't have a franchise changing all star piece either, and
Speaker 1: they're probably two or three steps out against the jazz.
Speaker 1: They're just I don't know. This is covering the jazz
Speaker 1: this year has been a challenge that I don't think
Speaker 1: I've had in eighteen years covering the jazz in this market.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm probably higher on Shangoon. I don't know, he's
Speaker 4: like a superstar. But that's a really good piece going
Speaker 4: forward though. Yeah, you're you're not wrong. It's it's tough
Speaker 4: to to really dial into when there's just not much
Speaker 4: to cover. There's not not even many storylines to to
Speaker 4: look at, right, you know, you can watch the jazz
Speaker 4: to see like what Will Hardy's going to dial up
Speaker 4: on the out of bounds. You can get like a
Speaker 4: good feel of maybe his scheme, his plays outside of
Speaker 4: that man, Yeah, that's that's. That's about it as far
Speaker 4: as a storyline watching. When it comes to jazz line, I.
Speaker 1: Want to inject truth serum into two people in the
Speaker 1: jazz front office and sit down with them for a
Speaker 1: half hour. Yes truth serum, Yes that legal. Well it's
Speaker 1: not it's not like this would happen, but I would
Speaker 1: like to do this with two people in the jazz
Speaker 1: front office, who do you think it is? Will's not
Speaker 1: the front office, right, so now Will's one of them?
Speaker 3: Will?
Speaker 1: Will is one of them? Will one of them?
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, Xanik.
Speaker 1: Danik, it's those two. I want to sit down with
Speaker 1: Will hard Party and Justin Zana can be like, guys,
Speaker 1: let's talk it out. How you feeling? Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: honestly think those two have a little bit of a
Speaker 1: different how do I tiptoe my way around here? I
Speaker 1: think Will and Justin have a little bit of a
Speaker 1: more direct, authentic side of them then maybe some of
Speaker 1: the other folk. And you know, when you utilize your
Speaker 1: charisma and your competitiveness to make sure that you're building
Speaker 1: something great or if you just want a golf I'm
Speaker 1: not sure how dialed into the whole, like just how
Speaker 1: hard this is for some people, but I think Will
Speaker 1: and Justin would have a very unique perspective on this.
Speaker 1: If you could get them in a very honest moment,
Speaker 1: you're probably right.
Speaker 4: And you know, any coach in any GM type role
Speaker 4: where your job is to win and your current job
Speaker 4: description is not really to do that, man, it's gotta
Speaker 4: be tough. It's got to be so conflicting, and I wonder, Spence,
Speaker 4: how you manage relationships, how you manage like a day
Speaker 4: to day.
Speaker 3: Vibe.
Speaker 4: When that's the case, it's gotta be tough. And the
Speaker 4: jazz are dealing with that right now. And and uh yeah,
Speaker 4: truth herem would be fun. But I don't know where that.
Speaker 1: Is until we can get the truths. And we're gonna
Speaker 1: have to rely on a mix of charisma, competitiveness, love
Speaker 1: of sport and unrelenting persistence. The d News wrote that
Speaker 1: and sent it to ESPN. It is wild. It's uh,
Speaker 1: it's a lot. It is a lot.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I'm not usually with the youngs with their sayings, but
Speaker 1: that one works here.
Speaker 4: It's a lot. You can read it. It's a lot extra,
Speaker 4: it's there's there's plenty there.
Speaker 1: Spence, no cap all right, we'll catch you quick break.
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