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<v Speaker 1>Justin Morsham has joined us takes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we talk with don't get me started on center stage,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's a.

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<v Speaker 3>Whole other thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Justin is probably the most popular multi hyphen it here'kfi.

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<v Speaker 3>How does that work?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>We talk about parenting on Wednesdays and on Sundays you

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<v Speaker 1>roll in and talk about real estate.

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<v Speaker 4>These are renaissance.

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<v Speaker 3>We talk about adulting.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, let's talk about successful kids working on one key emotion.

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<v Speaker 5>And this was I gotta be honest, I was taken

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<v Speaker 5>aback by this that the key emotion for your kids

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<v Speaker 5>to grow up successful is awe. And if I'm reading

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<v Speaker 5>this correctly based on the information of the study, is

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<v Speaker 5>that the parents need to be in awe of their children.

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<v Speaker 3>What.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I thought it was going to be keep the

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<v Speaker 2>awe in your kids as long as possible, so where

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<v Speaker 2>your kids are like, oh, that's wonderful or that's great,

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<v Speaker 2>or that's beautiful or that's cool or you know, so

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<v Speaker 2>your kids aren't quicker than they should be.

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<v Speaker 5>And that could because there's other parts of it where

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<v Speaker 5>they allude to the fact that the parents who were

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<v Speaker 5>also experiencing awe. So what my general takeaway from it

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<v Speaker 5>was is that if your bar is very low, then

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<v Speaker 5>you tend to be happier in general and maybe more successful.

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<v Speaker 2>Welling parents should be in awe of their kids. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>give it the kids the power, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, don't get me wrong. My kids have there.

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<v Speaker 5>Each of them have had two moments or one each

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<v Speaker 5>where I was genuinely, insincerely in awe of what they

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<v Speaker 5>decided to do. So I was proud of them that

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<v Speaker 5>the proud pride is the second in this study. So

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<v Speaker 5>you the number one emotion for the predictor of success

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<v Speaker 5>is awe, and pride is number two, which I thought

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<v Speaker 5>was also I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think of in awe of something, I think like delighted

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<v Speaker 2>or surprised by the magnitude.

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<v Speaker 5>They did the thing, and I'll try and pull it

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<v Speaker 5>up here. They did the thing of they gave you like.

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<v Speaker 5>The Webster's Dictionary defines alle as and uh and they

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<v Speaker 5>give you a different one the Merriam Webster Dictionary. An

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<v Speaker 5>emotion variously combining dread, veneration, and wonder that is inspired

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<v Speaker 5>by authority or by the sacred or sublime.

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<v Speaker 3>Now hit the second one if you don't mind strong.

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<v Speaker 1>This one from dictionary dot com an overwhelming feeling of reverence, admiration, fear,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera, produced by what produced by that which is grand, sublime,

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<v Speaker 1>extremely powerful or the light.

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<v Speaker 4>Something that should be revered is not your child.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's what.

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<v Speaker 5>So again, this just kind of threw me off my

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<v Speaker 5>balance because I'm like, am I supposed to be admire

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<v Speaker 5>And there's a lot again, there's a lot of ways

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<v Speaker 5>that I genuinely, sincerely do admire my kids. But I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know, I don't know that you know, like to me,

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<v Speaker 5>the equivalent of like, you know, who rescued who?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if this kid does something kind or you know, wonderful,

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<v Speaker 2>you can.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you imagine being a base because your kid does

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<v Speaker 3>something kind? So true?

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, true kids are selfish, little being.

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<v Speaker 5>Kids made me dinner last night while I was on

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<v Speaker 5>like a zoom meeting.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's really like he was sick or he was

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<v Speaker 3>inhabited by an alien. I'm like, you're doing that.

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<v Speaker 4>That is when AWE comes in. I was so.

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<v Speaker 1>Along those lines when when you say awe, I think

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<v Speaker 1>of the context of like, this is the most beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>sunset I've ever seen in my life. I can't wrap

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<v Speaker 1>my head around what is going on right now. If

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<v Speaker 1>you if you are in awe of your kids, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's not because of what they've done, but you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe that two human beings can get together

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<v Speaker 1>and create another human being.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in awe of that.

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<v Speaker 4>Person, and you're in awe of yourself, not the kid.

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<v Speaker 3>It did say.

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<v Speaker 5>The author of the article said, when I read things

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<v Speaker 5>like this, it reminds me, if I needed it to,

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<v Speaker 5>that being a parent really is an almost incomprehensible.

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<v Speaker 3>Gift, which I do not feel that being a parent

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<v Speaker 3>is an incomprehension. It sounds like I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 3>a job that.

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<v Speaker 5>I signed up for that I didn't know what I

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<v Speaker 5>was getting into. But I do enjoy like that's like

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<v Speaker 5>from time to time. That's a better way to say,

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<v Speaker 5>I enjoy it from time to time. I do not

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<v Speaker 5>find joy in it every day.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. I probably am through swaths of it I didn't.

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<v Speaker 5>I could say I did not find enjoyment from it

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<v Speaker 5>most of the time. Right there, it's fleeting moments of

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<v Speaker 5>joy and I have enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 3>Moment worth it. They do that.

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<v Speaker 5>But again, I don't know if this is like an

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<v Speaker 5>evolutionary thing that we've just had, Like it has to

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<v Speaker 5>be ingrained in us, that we have to psychologically think

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<v Speaker 5>that because he smiles after he farts when he's kept

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<v Speaker 5>me up all night, but that makes it all worth it.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe it is, but it's still.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a little bit of, like I don't know, sociopathic

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<v Speaker 5>aspects to it, that you have to like trick yourself

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<v Speaker 5>into finding the fun and being beat on and vomited on.

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<v Speaker 3>That's frue.

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<v Speaker 4>It's true.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, parents do make allowances for their kids.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot, and then they get older and all they

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<v Speaker 5>do is not appreciate you and become generally annoyed by

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<v Speaker 5>you and don't want you around. Like so, I'm just

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<v Speaker 5>when I see this, it's a thing that's very conflicting

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<v Speaker 5>for me because obviously I come in here, I cry

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<v Speaker 5>about my kids.

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<v Speaker 3>I love them dearly.

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<v Speaker 5>I could not imagine my life being any different than

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<v Speaker 5>what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>But I did not. I do not think I would.

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<v Speaker 5>Use AWE to describe how I feel a good chunk

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<v Speaker 5>of the time. And maybe we'll see, maybe my kids

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<v Speaker 5>will be less successful because of it.

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<v Speaker 4>No, that is not true, you know, because.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, you're a successful guy. I thank you clearly I

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<v Speaker 3>have hyphens. Your dad would not be in awe of you, No,

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<v Speaker 3>and if he was, he would never admit it.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is a funny thing because I feel like this

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<v Speaker 1>is the push towards telling your kids that you're in

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<v Speaker 1>awe of them, and that I think puts a very

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<v Speaker 1>That's a bad move.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a bawful It's so stupid. I think it's really stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like the thing that I've strived for is

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<v Speaker 2>to hear that my parents are proud of me.

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<v Speaker 4>That's like the number one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that it's never changed throughout my entire life,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's what I want.

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<v Speaker 3>You want that?

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<v Speaker 5>And there's this weird I think high wire tuggle war

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<v Speaker 5>whatever where it's like because if they give the pride

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<v Speaker 5>too fast and east right, then it's like it doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>feel earned.

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<v Speaker 4>They've got to pay attention to you for thirty five years.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly right, you can't. But is it funny how we

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<v Speaker 3>all we all have these similar vibes like.

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<v Speaker 4>I have this one, and you should want that as

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<v Speaker 4>a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>You should want to make your parent proud and your

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<v Speaker 2>parents should want to be proud of you. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>all of these things The awe thing is just like

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<v Speaker 2>give me that's a little too new parent age foo

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<v Speaker 2>food to me.

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<v Speaker 4>It be in awe of your check coming back.

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<v Speaker 5>This right here is my biggest feared anxiety I've always

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<v Speaker 5>had as a parent is that I've always felt exactly

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<v Speaker 5>like we're all saying we feel yeah, but I'm like,

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<v Speaker 5>what if everybody else who is blowing that much sunshine

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<v Speaker 5>up their kids a that like, that's they're actually the one.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a lot of friends, most of my friends

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<v Speaker 2>have kids, and that that is never a conversation. I

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<v Speaker 2>was in awe of my daughter and like, that's not

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<v Speaker 2>a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never heard somebody heap that much praise on that kid.

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<v Speaker 1>But let me go back to what I said earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>when I said, is that when you think of the

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<v Speaker 1>awe of being in awe of something this bigger than you,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in awe of the the skyscraper that I would

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<v Speaker 1>never be able to design or build or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>If you.

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<v Speaker 1>Display that, if you show that to your kids, not

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<v Speaker 1>directed towards them, but you show them that you are

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<v Speaker 1>still capable of being impressed by something that I think

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<v Speaker 1>is a good quality to exactly, because then that gives

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<v Speaker 1>the gives the kid the ability to not be a

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<v Speaker 1>giant jade like you said earlier, a jaded a hole

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<v Speaker 1>through the rest of their life.

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<v Speaker 2>One of my least favorite things. When a child is

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<v Speaker 2>not impressed by something. Yeah, so annoying.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree. I mean they should all be impressed by you.

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<v Speaker 4>No no, no, no, not me.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean by you know, even if it's just like

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<v Speaker 2>a meal out or.

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<v Speaker 1>They got for Christmas, Like they can't wrap their head

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<v Speaker 1>around the fact they don't deserve it. You gave it

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<v Speaker 1>to them because you you love them, right or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>But they don't get the awe that should be involved

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<v Speaker 1>with you spent how much money on a on a

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<v Speaker 1>game system that's going to eat my brain out?

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<v Speaker 3>I love it, Thank you. Yeah, I'm all I'm in

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<v Speaker 3>awe of that. I mean that I pulled a fast

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<v Speaker 3>one on.

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<v Speaker 2>I will get the you know, text messages from friends

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<v Speaker 2>like can you believe they're you know, thirteen and fifteen?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you believe I made these kids? You know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean kind of thing, and and that I get

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<v Speaker 2>the awe there of like you know, like we were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about, I can see that like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>I did this, we did this. We've all done this,

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<v Speaker 2>The family has done this. Look at them. They're grown

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<v Speaker 2>up and they're not broken.

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<v Speaker 5>So here's one last bit of perspective is that it

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<v Speaker 5>also says there was a twenty twenty study that found

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<v Speaker 5>that if you spent fifteen minutes in a walk out

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<v Speaker 5>in nature where the things you were seeing were things

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<v Speaker 5>that you would be considered to be in awe of,

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<v Speaker 5>you were significantly more likely to feel pro social emotions.

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<v Speaker 5>So what if like, let's just say the parent is

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<v Speaker 5>very easily find finds themselves in a state of awe

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<v Speaker 5>and that somehow begets this perspective for the kid because

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<v Speaker 5>they're modeling it to also just appreciate what they have

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<v Speaker 5>for around them. So that's really what because they they're

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<v Speaker 5>also maybe that removes a little bit of like the

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<v Speaker 5>insecurity obstacles that you usually have to overcome to achieve stuff, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>and that you just like you just have a more

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<v Speaker 5>positive mindset and it's more about.

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<v Speaker 2>Birds, yeah, feather, it's it's it's the same thing with

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<v Speaker 2>the people you surround yourself, even as adults, Like if

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<v Speaker 2>you're surrounding yourself with people who are like, oh it's

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful today, Like look, do you see those flowers.

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<v Speaker 2>How bright they're the ones right outside the door, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I opposed to someone who's like, I hate my life

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<v Speaker 2>this day.

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<v Speaker 5>My favorite study is the one that said my grandparents'

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<v Speaker 5>for happiness was so low.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, they expect keep the bar low.

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<v Speaker 3>Justin will continue.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like the turban kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Justin war just joined us and we're talking about parenting issues,

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<v Speaker 1>and so new research talks about the importance of reading.

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<v Speaker 5>I have a feeling when I read this, I was

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<v Speaker 5>gobspeck like, I was like, what the hell?

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<v Speaker 3>And I have a feeling.

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<v Speaker 5>You guys are be like, oh, no, it's important, no, nothing,

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<v Speaker 5>But fifty four percent of US adults read below a

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<v Speaker 5>sixth grade level.

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<v Speaker 3>Not surprised, really, you've been the target. Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 4>Watch your mouth about target.

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<v Speaker 3>I just dealing with people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. And I also think that reading, uh, reading

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<v Speaker 1>ability can regress. I mean you get out of the practice,

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<v Speaker 1>just like handwriting, right, your handwriting now is nowhere what

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<v Speaker 1>it was, nowhere near what it was like probably when

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<v Speaker 1>you were junior senior in high school because you were

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<v Speaker 1>constantly writing. I don't write things down I mean chicken

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<v Speaker 1>scratch numbers here and there. I don't write things down

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<v Speaker 1>every day. I'll go days without using a pen or

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<v Speaker 1>a pencil.

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<v Speaker 3>I always had third grade level handwriting.

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<v Speaker 4>Unfortunately, write me something right, I like, well, you're right with.

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<v Speaker 3>The wrong hand, dummy. The it gets even worse.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't beat that out. Uh huh, you're my age.

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<v Speaker 2>There were no left handing, that's perfectly.

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<v Speaker 4>Would you write like you're right handed though?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I do. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I just always like people. When I signed my niece's

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<v Speaker 5>like certificate for because I like a left hand, yet

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<v Speaker 5>I officiated her wedding and like both her and her

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<v Speaker 5>now husband were like whoa dude?

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<v Speaker 1>Like when I was just writing my name, like GEO,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize you had palsy exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>You should have been a doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>But look at how lame that is when I write

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<v Speaker 2>with my left hand.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it would be legible.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah that's a joke.

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<v Speaker 3>O can't turn hers off for a second time out.

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<v Speaker 3>Good for you. You found my limit.

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<v Speaker 5>Evidently I didn't even know I had one. The other part,

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<v Speaker 5>so my kids, I've seen them like read aloud. They

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<v Speaker 5>mess up words constantly, which drives me up a wall.

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<v Speaker 5>I was never like I imagine both of you enjoyed reading.

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<v Speaker 5>I know Shannon does a lot. I have never been

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<v Speaker 5>a person who enjoyed reading. I like listening to like

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<v Speaker 5>business books, like audio books.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that. I'm I will read a book if

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<v Speaker 3>I like it.

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<v Speaker 5>I read like Ready Player one and the Harry Potter

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<v Speaker 5>book said there was stuff like that, but sixth grade

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<v Speaker 5>level exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying is and I've been I'm the

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<v Speaker 4>Shocked when you say your kids mix up words? What

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<v Speaker 4>do you mean?

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<v Speaker 5>They say it like they'll say something like, uh, I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>Even give the example because it's such poor grammar.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I just feel like I'm constantly going it's uh,

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<v Speaker 5>it's I don't know, it's magnification.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I would say something mess up, could care less

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<v Speaker 2>versus no.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we're not even at that high level.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's like blatantly like I don't think the words

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<v Speaker 5>you just put together Like I.

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<v Speaker 4>Understood you on this show.

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<v Speaker 2>I understood that every day people lose their freaking minds.

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<v Speaker 3>No we're not there, then they should.

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<v Speaker 5>Definitely, we could desensitize these people by having them dinner

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<v Speaker 5>with my family okay, because it's me constantly going no,

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<v Speaker 5>it's this word, and my Jack loves to drive me

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<v Speaker 3>He goes same difference. I'm like, no, no, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>the same difference.

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<v Speaker 1>If it was, then I would understand.

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<v Speaker 5>I go, I can't send you into a job interview

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<v Speaker 5>using words like this.

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<v Speaker 3>That is nothing to Oh, yes, I know. That's the

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<v Speaker 3>one time that I know I'm being the victim of it.

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<v Speaker 3>You still can't stop it, can't stop it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's how we communicates, Like communication is very important. The

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<v Speaker 5>other part that shocked me about this is like how

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<v Speaker 5>much it's directly correlated to like earnings. People will read

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<v Speaker 5>at a sixth grade level on average in US make

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<v Speaker 5>sixty three thousand dollars a year. If you're at a

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<v Speaker 5>fifth grade level, dips all the way down to forty eight.

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<v Speaker 5>And I was like, wow, like especially, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 5>guess today we're all on computers, but just pick of books.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess, Yeah. It's not just the book, it's the

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<v Speaker 3>kind of book. It's the style of book. It's the

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<v Speaker 3>language of the book.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think of different writing styles. The most outlandish

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<v Speaker 1>writing style that I can think of that I of

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<v Speaker 1>a book that I enjoyed was The Road by Cormick

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<v Speaker 1>McCarthy because there, I mean, he was missing punctuation in

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<v Speaker 1>that book, but it was so I mean, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to know the rules to break the rules. So clearly

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<v Speaker 1>he knows how to use punctuation, but he didn't in

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<v Speaker 1>this book. That to me is a well above a

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<v Speaker 1>sixth grade level book because of that kind of knowledge.

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<v Speaker 3>Not just the big words, not.

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<v Speaker 1>Just the the technical aspects potentially of a book that

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<v Speaker 1>you're reading, but the way the language is used is

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<v Speaker 1>probably the best indicator of the level of book. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't get that anywhere. I mean even you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>could read the New York Times online or in print,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to do. It's not written. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're always taught in journalisms the newspaper writing. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>written that way. It's written to be consumed by the

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say the lowest common denominator, but a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>low common denominator. And there's no challenge after you get

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<v Speaker 1>past sixth grade. You read science books, biology or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that in high school, but after that there's no more.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no challenge unless you bring it upon yourself. Where

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<v Speaker 1>you work in an industry where that's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>required reading.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just not out there.

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<v Speaker 5>And I also always wonder, like Chicken or the Egg, like,

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<v Speaker 5>are people who naturally inclined to read are just gonna

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<v Speaker 5>also they're just going to naturally want to improve, right

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<v Speaker 5>like schmucks like me, like I like to improve in business.

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<v Speaker 5>Like that's interesting to me. But I very rarely will

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<v Speaker 5>read a piece of fiction or something like that. It's

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<v Speaker 5>not my jam. I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 3>I would much rather watch.

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<v Speaker 1>The movie an somebody else figure out all the visuals

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Yeah, yeah, paint the picture for me and

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<v Speaker 1>I break it down. What a flip book?

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<v Speaker 4>Very male ver. We will talk trenday.

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<v Speaker 3>Only time I've been called that.

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<v Speaker 4>It was the only time I've done that about you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a good right.

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