Speaker 1: Baby, I'm a gangster too. It takes out a tangle.
Speaker 1: You don't mess with me. Mess with me, baby, I'm
Speaker 1: a gangster. Touch baby, you're a gangstato.
Speaker 2: For good warning, this podcast is designed to take you
Speaker 2: outside of your comfort zone and make you question reality.
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Speaker 1: This ain't my first time at the rodeos. Hello, and
Speaker 1: welcome back to the show. Hope twenty twenty six has
Speaker 1: been treating you good. Got some new stuff for us
Speaker 1: to discuss today, and it's actually well, I guess I
Speaker 1: say this about every episode, but it's really fucking interesting
Speaker 1: and you guys are never gonna believe it. But before
Speaker 1: we jump right in to the topic, little housekeeping here.
Speaker 1: I got so that bitch that I follow on Facebook
Speaker 1: that recommends the documentaries. I wanted to like her so much.
Speaker 1: She that's how I found that documentary about the fucking
Speaker 1: dude that was buried under his house for fifty five years. Okay,
Speaker 1: and I watched a couple other ones that she recommended,
Speaker 1: and I was like, Oh, this bitch is awesome. She's
Speaker 1: found all these documentaries and I don't even have to
Speaker 1: search for new stuff anymore. I can just you know,
Speaker 1: go off her recommendations because it seems like we're into
Speaker 1: the same stuff. Well, fuck you, and I disrespect you
Speaker 1: for this. She recommended this documentary right It's called Horror
Speaker 1: in the High Desert, and I was like, ooh, the
Speaker 1: way she set it up and like described it, it
Speaker 1: sounded amazing and I was actually gonna cover a whole
Speaker 1: episode about it because it was actually the craziest shit
Speaker 1: I had ever heard. So I got duped into watching
Speaker 1: this fucking fake documentary. I got almost to the end
Speaker 1: of it before I realized this was a fucking fake,
Speaker 1: fucking Blair witch ass fucking it was a movie. It
Speaker 1: wasn't even a documentary that I got almost to the
Speaker 1: end before I fucking realized. I think there was like
Speaker 1: ten minutes of it left before I realized this shit
Speaker 1: ain't real. I got totally duped. And guess what, I
Speaker 1: disrespect you for that she set it up like it
Speaker 1: was some real shit. Got almost to the end of
Speaker 1: it thinking, oh my god, if this actually happened, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna shit my pants. It was a fucking blair witch ass,
Speaker 1: fucking mock youmentary, So fuck you. But if you want
Speaker 1: to just watch something cool. It's called Horror in the
Speaker 1: High Desert and it is on to be uh and
Speaker 1: guess what spoiler alert something She should have disclaimed, it's
Speaker 1: not real, even though the shit looks pretty. I know
Speaker 1: a lot of people who left the theater after seeing
Speaker 1: Blair Witch thinking that was the really shit. Ever, this
Speaker 1: is the same way. But guess what, people, it's not
Speaker 1: fucking real, but a movie that you can watch that
Speaker 1: me and my husband, well, my husband actually discovered it
Speaker 1: from a podcast or something he was listening to. He
Speaker 1: watched it on his own and then said it was
Speaker 1: so good that he wanted to watch it again with me.
Speaker 1: And I'm glad that he made that decision because it
Speaker 1: was a fucking awesome movie. It's called Barbarian and it's
Speaker 1: relatively new. I think it came out within the last
Speaker 1: like year two, and you know, it's one of those ones.
Speaker 1: I think I had seen it on Hulu and just
Speaker 1: passed right by it. I'm not even gonna tell you
Speaker 1: anything about it, because that's how I went into it.
Speaker 1: He said, I'm not even gonna tell you anything about it.
Speaker 1: You're just gonna sit down and watch it. And I said, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: and It made the watching experience ten times better because
Speaker 1: I had absolutely no fucking clue what I was getting
Speaker 1: myself into. If you haven't seen it already, just go
Speaker 1: go to Hulu right now, Wait till nighttime. Get a
Speaker 1: glass of wine or whatever it is you do. Smoke
Speaker 1: a little, drink a little, whatever it is that you
Speaker 1: do at night, get some chips, sit down and watch
Speaker 1: the shit. You won't regret it. It was fantastic. I
Speaker 1: give it ten out of ten. I can't even say
Speaker 1: what it is because it'll give the movie away. I
Speaker 1: just give it ten out of ten. Okay, it was
Speaker 1: really fucking good. But while I've been like me and
Speaker 1: my husband take turns, like it's his turn, then it's
Speaker 1: my turn to pick a movie, and you know, you
Speaker 1: just with the holiday season and stuff, it's hard for
Speaker 1: me to say goodbye to the Christmas movies and shit
Speaker 1: like that because I will watch Christmas movies the entire
Speaker 1: month of December and trickle it a little bit into
Speaker 1: January even and I hate to see him go. You know,
Speaker 1: they took the Hulu days down, and they took all
Speaker 1: the Christmas shit off Netflix and whatever. While I was
Speaker 1: in Oklahoma visiting my family. I mean, obviously, my sister's
Speaker 1: the same way as me. She loves Christmas movies. We
Speaker 1: watched all of them. We watched four Christmases National Lampoons.
Speaker 1: We watched all of them, and it finally got to
Speaker 1: the point where it was like, what haven't we watched
Speaker 1: yet this year? And I said, as a joke, I said,
Speaker 1: we haven't watched Media's Christmas yet this year. And she
Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, I like media movies. I guess
Speaker 1: we could watch that. And I was joking, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I think most of the media movies are funny. Some
Speaker 1: of them suck. But she goes, you know, Tyler Perry's
Speaker 1: a sexual predator, and I said, it doesn't surprise me
Speaker 1: because it's a It's a huge black dude dressing up
Speaker 1: as a woman and involved with all these weird Christian
Speaker 1: charity stuff. And he sold he sold a jetplane to
Speaker 1: that one scumbag, demon possessed guy who claims to be
Speaker 1: a pastor. Oh what's his name? What is his name?
Speaker 1: He looks like he is absolutely possessed by demons. I
Speaker 1: got pregnancy brain. It's probably not gonna come to me.
Speaker 1: But anyways, he's involved with all these really high up
Speaker 1: like TV preachers who are just downright scary and demonic looking.
Speaker 1: And in my opinion, he's always acted like he had
Speaker 1: a little sugar in his tank, if you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Because he has all this stuff about family
Speaker 1: values and crap like that in his movies. But to me,
Speaker 1: he has always come across as hiding something and maybe
Speaker 1: having a little sugar in his tank. And he plays
Speaker 1: a woman so well that you might think it just
Speaker 1: kind of comes naturally to him. And Tyler Perry, sure,
Speaker 1: he is, in my opinion, no sexual predator. And he's
Speaker 1: currently facing two separate, multi million dollar civil lawsuits that
Speaker 1: alleged sexual assault and harassment, and both lawsuits claim that
Speaker 1: Tyler Perry used his power and influence as a major
Speaker 1: film executive to coerce these actors into unwanted sexual encounters
Speaker 1: and advances with the promise of career advancement. The alleged
Speaker 1: incidents occurred between twenty fifteen and twenty twenty one, and
Speaker 1: from what I read, he drugged them and then he
Speaker 1: raped their be holes. Heller, they got the uh hashtag
Speaker 1: Nick Reiner stinging butthole from good old Medeia. But how
Speaker 1: embarrassed too, like if you were gonna get drugged and
Speaker 1: raped in the bee hole by anybody, you got drugged
Speaker 1: and you got raped in the bee hole by Heller
Speaker 1: fucking Medea A halleluyer. But speaking of beehole allegations, we
Speaker 1: can go ahead and roll into the topic of the
Speaker 1: hour if that suits you. This Uh, this was a topic.
Speaker 1: You know, it's older in the nineteen seventies, something so
Speaker 1: horrific happened, and yet no one has probably heard of
Speaker 1: this fucking shit. So before we jump right in, shout
Speaker 1: out to my husband's slash potential producer depending on what
Speaker 1: mood he is and how much he likes me at
Speaker 1: the time, for bringing the topic to my attention. And
Speaker 1: also shout out to the Brohio podcast once again for
Speaker 1: kind of covering it and doing a shitty enough job
Speaker 1: that it inspired me once again to dive deeper and
Speaker 1: bring you the full biscuits and gravy and just just
Speaker 1: a creative dinner idea out there for you guys. Since
Speaker 1: I said biscuits and gravy, that really got me salivating.
Speaker 1: You can get chicken tenders, throw them in the oven,
Speaker 1: frozen chicken tenders. We're not fucking bourgeois up in here.
Speaker 1: We're getting frozen chicken tenders. I'm not saying go out
Speaker 1: there and get Tyson or whatever. But if you can
Speaker 1: get like some good like cage free, you know, roam
Speaker 1: about whatever. They call it pasture chicken tenders, throw those
Speaker 1: in the oven. Get you some white gravy. Some people
Speaker 1: in the North call it peppercorn gravy, which, hello, that
Speaker 1: is bizarre to me. It's white gravy. Okay, it's called
Speaker 1: country gravy. Peppercorn gravy. You guys are barbarians. So you
Speaker 1: get frozen chicken tenders country gravy, and then you can
Speaker 1: do some waffles. If you're real trailer trash, just get
Speaker 1: some frozen waffles and fucking throw those bitches into a
Speaker 1: toaster or you know, the oven. Whatever. And if you're
Speaker 1: wanting to be a little less Dolly Parton and more Riba,
Speaker 1: you could just make your own waffles biz quick style
Speaker 1: if you have like a little waffle maker or something,
Speaker 1: and get you some maple syrup, and then you have
Speaker 1: chicken and waffles with country gravy and a little maple syrup.
Speaker 1: That shit is delicious. And I don't know if my
Speaker 1: husband's going to listen to that episode, but if we
Speaker 1: have that for dinner one of these upcoming nights. You
Speaker 1: heard it here first on the Cosmic Beach podcast. Anyways,
Speaker 1: So after Dean Coral, the candy Man pedophile murderer in
Speaker 1: Houston that I have talked about before, and before John
Speaker 1: Wayne Gacy, the pedophile murderer killer clown in Chicago, there
Speaker 1: were other cases of abuse and murder of kids in
Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies. That provides disturbing new evidence that connects
Speaker 1: all of these cases. And if you want a little
Speaker 1: light listening, if you run out of Cosmic Peach podcast
Speaker 1: episodes to listen to, you can go and find The
Speaker 1: Clown and the Candyman podcast wherever you listen to podcasts,
Speaker 1: and if you would rather watch it, it's available on
Speaker 1: Discovery Plus streaming. So The Clown and the Candyman. But
Speaker 1: we're going to connect the Candyman pedophile murderer in Houston
Speaker 1: with John Wayne Gacy, the pedo clown killer in Chicago
Speaker 1: with some new cases here. So between nineteen seventy six
Speaker 1: and nineteen seventy seven in Oakland County, a prosperous suburban
Speaker 1: area near Detroit in Michigan. They were dealing with child
Speaker 1: disappearances and child murders. They ranged an age from ten
Speaker 1: to twelve years old, and the killer became known as
Speaker 1: the Oakland County child Killer. And to this day the
Speaker 1: perpetrator has never been identified. But there may be a
Speaker 1: connection between the Oakland County Child Killer and a little
Speaker 1: place we are going to be talking about in very
Speaker 1: great detail today called the North Fox Island. Now, it is,
Speaker 1: my opinion, one of the first, if not the first,
Speaker 1: pedophile islands. It was run as a boys camp, actually,
Speaker 1: and it was called a charitable organization under the name
Speaker 1: Brother Paul's Children's Mission, but it was in fact a
Speaker 1: child exploitation enterprise. Okay, under the disgusting ass fucking name
Speaker 1: of Brother Paul's Children's Mission. Okay. Jeffrey Epstein is gnahing
Speaker 1: but a copycat literally copy and paste. But why, oh
Speaker 1: why when the Epstein stuff dropped, was no one bringing
Speaker 1: up North Fox Island? Okay. So many investigative narratives, including
Speaker 1: one called Children of the Snow, have explored whether the
Speaker 1: serial murders in Detroit might have certain ties to broader
Speaker 1: child abuse networks. Some researchers point to suspects and clients
Speaker 1: tied to underground child sex circles, arguing that it's unlikely
Speaker 1: that a single killer who abducted and held children would
Speaker 1: operate fully outside the Michigan pedo ecosystem, especially considering the
Speaker 1: proximity of the Oakland County child killings and this pedo island. So,
Speaker 1: these boys in the Oakland County child murders or children
Speaker 1: of the Snow, whichever one, were held for days, sexually
Speaker 1: abused and smothered, then dumped randomly in the snow and
Speaker 1: left to rot. And for over forty years, someone has
Speaker 1: gotten away with the murder of these four boys. The
Speaker 1: case is still unsolved, but we might We might be
Speaker 1: solving it today, Me and you baby right here Cosmic
Speaker 1: Peachfuck Podcast. All right, So during this investigation you may
Speaker 1: learn three things that we have spoken about before, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep on speaking about it until you get
Speaker 1: it through your head. There's always something lurking beneath the
Speaker 1: surface of everyday life. One money and power can make
Speaker 1: a lot of things go away. Two and there's always
Speaker 1: more to the story than what you hear in the news.
Speaker 1: Three Okay hashtag twenty twenty six Nick Reiner stinging beeholes
Speaker 1: for everybody. Yes, that's a long hashtag, but that's what
Speaker 1: we're talking about. So before we explore Peedo Island, let's
Speaker 1: take a look at the Cast Corridor in Michigan where
Speaker 1: the snow Boys were mutilated in the nineteen seventies. The
Speaker 1: Cast Corridor was well known around the Detroit area as
Speaker 1: a haven for prostitution, drugs, and child pornography. In the
Speaker 1: nineteen sixties, a lot of folks moved up to the
Speaker 1: Detroit area to get jobs in auto factories, and it
Speaker 1: was a very well populated area, but they didn't have
Speaker 1: much money, and a lot of them were single parents
Speaker 1: with six, eight, you name it kids, and they couldn't
Speaker 1: supervise them while they were working. So, for lack of
Speaker 1: a better term, it was a kind of buffet for
Speaker 1: these pedophiles. Now, there was a dude, confirmed pedophile named
Speaker 1: Bob Moore who lived in the Cast Corridor in a
Speaker 1: big gass house and he had all sort of boys
Speaker 1: just up there living with him, usually runaways. Okay, they
Speaker 1: ran away from home. The parents were never there, fucking
Speaker 1: eight nine siblings, nobody was eating fucking they took off
Speaker 1: and here comes the Bob Moore. Right, Bob Moore, here
Speaker 1: here he shows up. Come stay with me. I got
Speaker 1: a big gass house. Come come and live with me.
Speaker 1: Right and up the street on Woodward he rented this,
Speaker 1: Bob Moore. He rented a place above a movie theater
Speaker 1: where he was filming child pornography and distributing it through
Speaker 1: a pornography shop. And these child predators could come in
Speaker 1: and basically look at all of his collection of child
Speaker 1: porn available. But it was off limits to just any
Speaker 1: old body, right, And so the people who worked there
Speaker 1: knew who would be buying it, and they knew who
Speaker 1: was making it, and they had this little club together.
Speaker 1: These groups of men were very well organized, so much
Speaker 1: so that they had a rank system and they would
Speaker 1: have fucking meetings. They had, you know, meet in person
Speaker 1: type shit going on. Obviously, this is prior to cell
Speaker 1: phones and internet. So they would meet swap boys and
Speaker 1: they called them parties. Right. It is actually shocking how
Speaker 1: organized and tighten it these pedophile rings were and are
Speaker 1: to this day, and that they were operating right under
Speaker 1: the noses of literally everyone. But I realized as I
Speaker 1: went along in this investigation that it wasn't so much
Speaker 1: that people didn't think it was happening. They didn't want
Speaker 1: to believe it was happening. And of course you got
Speaker 1: to ask yourself, why weren't these guys going to jail.
Speaker 1: I know, at some point these kids had to be talking,
Speaker 1: telling fucking someone, but yet no one is going to jail.
Speaker 1: So some investigators have pointed to the likelihood of three
Speaker 1: specific pedophiles from the cast Corridor who may have killed
Speaker 1: these boys. One turned out to be a guy named
Speaker 1: Ted Lamborghini. That's not a pseudonym, that's his real fucking
Speaker 1: last name. Probably connected to some shit, right. Ted Lamborghini
Speaker 1: a career pedophile and sexual predator. He was finally put
Speaker 1: in prison for life for molesting kids back in Detroit
Speaker 1: in the nineteen seventies, and he had never been arrested
Speaker 1: before that, But it wasn't until recently that he has
Speaker 1: been connected to the snow Boy's murders. So in the
Speaker 1: nineteen seventies, yes, there were pedophiles, just like there are today,
Speaker 1: but there was no internet, so they ran in group
Speaker 1: and they were all interconnected. The candy Man pedo killer
Speaker 1: literally told that to the police in Houston, which they
Speaker 1: did nothing with that information, and it's the same thing
Speaker 1: in Detroit. John Wayne Gacy told the police that these
Speaker 1: pedophiles run in networks and you know what they did
Speaker 1: with that information, fucking nothing. And in the Snowboy's murders,
Speaker 1: a few members of this Detroit pedophile ring extended their
Speaker 1: territory to the suburbs and was basically grab an ordinary
Speaker 1: children off the streets of Oakland County. This shit has tentacles, right,
Speaker 1: It's all over the place. It is a literal network.
Speaker 1: But besides Ted Lamborghini, there was a dude named Chris
Speaker 1: Bush that was suspected in the snowboys murders. What do
Speaker 1: we know about this guy, Well, we know that Chris
Speaker 1: Bush's father was a prominent GM executive and it was
Speaker 1: part of deep investigation into the corridor that revealed that
Speaker 1: these inner city kids living in the Cast Corridor were
Speaker 1: being serviced by a porn ring that involved some politicians
Speaker 1: and some high level GM executives and of course other
Speaker 1: upstanding members of the community. And after that information came out,
Speaker 1: a few women came forward. They described ritual abuse by
Speaker 1: pedophiles that were fucking higher ups in gas executive management.
Speaker 1: All during the mid nineteen seventies, and they were still
Speaker 1: scared of repercussions and frightened to talk after all these years. Oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, Chris Bush got epsteined quite literally before
Speaker 1: he had to face the music for the brutal murdering
Speaker 1: and raping he had been a part of. But here's
Speaker 1: the thing. A Corporal Richard mcnamay was the responding officer
Speaker 1: for the Chris Bush quote unquote suicide, and according to
Speaker 1: a woman who came forward later in the investigation, this
Speaker 1: very officer sexually abused her from the ages of eight
Speaker 1: to eleven while patrolling her neighborhood in Bloomfield Village. So
Speaker 1: a Freedom of Information Act request was filed with Bloomfield
Speaker 1: Township to get this piece of shit's records, and then boom,
Speaker 1: we get all these documents that prove that the woman
Speaker 1: who came forward was not the only one sexually abused
Speaker 1: by a long shot. So a pedophile officer is the
Speaker 1: first person to respond to the fucking Chris Bush alleged
Speaker 1: suicide scene. The mathematical odds of that being the case
Speaker 1: are fucking astronomical, dude, especially since that officer had half
Speaker 1: an hour with only Chris Bush's supposedly dead body and
Speaker 1: Chris Bush's brother there before any backup arrived. It's kind
Speaker 1: of like a weird Marilyn Monroe situation. So is he
Speaker 1: dead or was he literally epsteined away somewhere, maybe to
Speaker 1: a very nearby pedo Island, which, hello, enter Pedo Island. Now,
Speaker 1: I set all of this up for you to get
Speaker 1: to where we are now, and this is really going
Speaker 1: to be the beginning of our story. This is the
Speaker 1: story of millionaire Francis Sheldon and his role in the
Speaker 1: world of abusers and killers like Dean Coral, the pedo
Speaker 1: Candyman murderer, and John Wayne Gacy. And of course this
Speaker 1: is the story of Sheldon's Pedophile Island.
Speaker 3: So well.
Speaker 1: As we've discussed so far, the four kids in the
Speaker 1: Snowboy's case were being used for child pornography before they
Speaker 1: were killed, and a child pornography ring was identified that
Speaker 1: was operating out of the Cast Corridor of Detroit. But
Speaker 1: here's the thing. The Cast Corridor ring was actually being
Speaker 1: financed by the same man who was behind Fox Peedo
Speaker 1: Island pornography ring. Yes, Francis Sheldon. So Francis had his
Speaker 1: fucking tentacles out. He had Peto Island and he was
Speaker 1: financing the Cast Corridor pedophile ring. And Fox Island was
Speaker 1: billed as a vacation home for area residents of Charlavoy, Michigan,
Speaker 1: but it actually instead was a multi million dollar child
Speaker 1: pornography operation. Doesn't that sound familiar, little miss Charlavoy? John Beney, Hello,
Speaker 1: no record of that pageant existing outside of John Benay?
Speaker 1: Why were the Ramses always traveling to Michigan? Jesus Christ, people,
Speaker 1: somebody fucking hired me as a private investigator, I swear. Anyways,
Speaker 1: so this was an actual fucking business that Sheldon was running,
Speaker 1: a fucking pornography ring, and they ran it through the mail,
Speaker 1: and they were filming this shit all over the country
Speaker 1: in basements in New York, in the Cast Corridor and
Speaker 1: of course on Fox Island, and they would send the
Speaker 1: film through the mail. And Sheldon actually recruited young boys
Speaker 1: through their parents by asking them to come to his
Speaker 1: nature camp that he called Brother Paul's Children's Mission. Sick fucker.
Speaker 1: And get this shit, it was actually a tax dodge
Speaker 1: because they were getting state fucking money to operate it. Hello,
Speaker 1: or I guess since we were talking about Tyler Perry
Speaker 1: earlier Heller, what the fuck? Of course, the state's paying
Speaker 1: for the fucking peto operation, only naturally, so why is
Speaker 1: this rich guy doing this. Francis Sheldon came from a
Speaker 1: well respected family with history in Michigan. People actually really
Speaker 1: liked this sick fuck in the community. He had a
Speaker 1: very prominent family and his lineage actually leads all the
Speaker 1: way up to the White House. Come on, people, it's
Speaker 1: like David Crosby all over again. We got fucking signers
Speaker 1: of the Declaration of Independence and all that shit. Fucking
Speaker 1: Francis Sheldon right, he was a very powerful, sick, fucked
Speaker 1: up individual, But yet they all are. So let's now
Speaker 1: take a visit, if you will, to the original Pedo Island.
Speaker 1: It sits out in Lake Michigan, quiet isolated, a beautiful place,
Speaker 1: about fifteen to twenty miles off the northern Michigan shoreline.
Speaker 1: No bridges, no ferry schedules, no tourist boats. If you
Speaker 1: want to get there, you either need a boat, or
Speaker 1: you need good weather, or you need a plane. That's it.
Speaker 1: The island itself is beautiful in a way that almost
Speaker 1: feels suspicious. You got dense woods, rolling dunes, gorgeous crystal
Speaker 1: clear water. It really reminds me and the Brohio guys
Speaker 1: talked about this. It's like these retreats other elite scumbags
Speaker 1: go to on their little getaways, Camp David Martha's Vineyard,
Speaker 1: places like that. This was that kind of place. There's
Speaker 1: no town, there's no neighbors, no one accidentally wandering by.
Speaker 1: It's just you, the trees, the beaches, and miles and
Speaker 1: miles of silence. And in the middle of that island,
Speaker 1: carved right into the land was a grassy airstrip. This
Speaker 1: airstrip was long enough to land private planes on and
Speaker 1: of course for people to come and go without asking
Speaker 1: any questions. And it is here. For several years. In
Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies, groups of young boys were flown out
Speaker 1: to this very island, not with their parents and definitely
Speaker 1: not on a fucking family vacation. They were sent there
Speaker 1: by adults that they trusted, adults who promised adventure, mentorship,
Speaker 1: and opportunity. And once those planes lifted off and landed
Speaker 1: on that airstrip, you and your tight little bee hole
Speaker 1: were all on your own. You were going to be
Speaker 1: spending this summer with your twig and berries draped across
Speaker 1: Francis Sheldon's face. Now what's been said is if you
Speaker 1: do Francis and if you looked at his resume, nothing
Speaker 1: about it screamed monster. He was a Yale graduate, much
Speaker 1: like Epstein would later be a Harvard graduate. These ivy
Speaker 1: league motherfuckers, Epstein and Francis Sheldon also contributed large, large
Speaker 1: amounts of money back to their schools. And he was
Speaker 1: a fucking rock scientist's geologist whatever. But his real interest
Speaker 1: was actually in real estate and oil. He had old
Speaker 1: Michigan money. Some would say he had fuck you, I
Speaker 1: have a private island type money, okay. And he bought
Speaker 1: Peto Island back in the nineteen fifties and he paid
Speaker 1: about twenty thousand dollars to an elderly widow whose husband
Speaker 1: had owned it before he died, obviously, and Francis treated
Speaker 1: it like his own little private pedo sanctuary. And he
Speaker 1: flew his own planes. He was a pilot, and he
Speaker 1: talked openly about how the island gave him peace. Uh,
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about what that peace was here
Speaker 1: in just to mint it. And of course Sheldon was
Speaker 1: involved in fucking a ton of youth organizations. He did
Speaker 1: like a big Brothers club type shit mentorship program, fucking
Speaker 1: charity work, motherfucker. And he was known to love kids,
Speaker 1: which you imagine that, and of course they're tight be holes.
Speaker 1: And he loaded parents up with the bullshit excuse that
Speaker 1: he wanted to give the boys an experience they might
Speaker 1: not have otherwise, which he was right about that, because
Speaker 1: it's not every day you get to spend the summer
Speaker 1: with big, hairy, sweaty old dudes running train on your
Speaker 1: bee hole in the hot summer Michigan heat. So all
Speaker 1: of this, though, was supposedly part of his charitable program.
Speaker 1: He would find these poverty stricken families that had a
Speaker 1: bunch of kids, like I was talking about earlier, and
Speaker 1: he would take the boys and fly them out to
Speaker 1: the island. These boys, though, thought it would be like
Speaker 1: an adventure, an excursion, almost like the summer of a lifetime,
Speaker 1: fucking little youth campshit. But unfortunately what they were headed
Speaker 1: for was an absolute nightmare. And ain't a wink syndrome. Now,
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. Sure, they were doing all
Speaker 1: the things on the island that boys liked to do,
Speaker 1: but there was then the caveat so yeah, they were
Speaker 1: doing fishing and they were also doing anal fishers, they
Speaker 1: were doing digging, and they were also doing anal digging.
Speaker 1: They were running and then they were also getting train
Speaker 1: run on. Oh god, it's not funny. It's not funny
Speaker 1: at all. But I mean it's really really sad. So initially,
Speaker 1: you know, actually, while we're on it with the anal digging,
Speaker 1: I had this friend side Tangent. She was a home
Speaker 1: health aid nurse and she was getting paid ten dollars
Speaker 1: an hour. She had this family she worked for. She
Speaker 1: was getting paid ten dollars an hour to watch this
Speaker 1: woman's twins that had some kind of fucking syndrome, something
Speaker 1: the fuck wrong with him. And I'm not bashing handicaps here,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that had something the fuck wrong with them,
Speaker 1: and she was getting paid ten dollars an hour to
Speaker 1: feed them, bathe them, change their fucking asses, and do
Speaker 1: all this stuff. And one night she was like, damn,
Speaker 1: I had I haven't seen Charlie in a minute. She
Speaker 1: goes and finds him. He's in the bathroom. Uh had
Speaker 1: dropped trow gotten in the tub and was just digging
Speaker 1: in his ass, just throwing shit everywhere, this literally digging
Speaker 1: in his ass, getting huge clumps of fucking turns out,
Speaker 1: smearing them and throwing it all over the fucking place,
Speaker 1: shit under his nail, shit all over the place. And
Speaker 1: this my poor friend ten dollars an hour, had to
Speaker 1: scrub that whole bathroom clean. This kid up put a
Speaker 1: new diaper on him, And I said, what the fuck
Speaker 1: is wrong with him that he would do that? And
Speaker 1: she said, he's an an old digger. It's a real thing,
Speaker 1: fucking look it up, anal digging. So anyways, back to
Speaker 1: the story. So initially, when you would go out there
Speaker 1: to North Fox Pedo Island for the youth camps, yeah,
Speaker 1: like I said, there was fishing, there was camping, flying
Speaker 1: in the small planes, the kind of stuff that makes
Speaker 1: adults say, that'll be a great time for you. Gee.
Speaker 1: Thanks and dad. It's got to be one of the
Speaker 1: worst parts that he brought the boys out to the island,
Speaker 1: not in secret, not in hiding. The parents fucking knew.
Speaker 1: The parents were very much a part of it, and
Speaker 1: even some of them paid a small fee of eighty
Speaker 1: five dollars to send their kids to this fucking camp.
Speaker 1: You know, eighty five bucks for a six day trip
Speaker 1: airfare included. But little did they know what they were
Speaker 1: really paying for. You know, it was just the thing
Speaker 1: a family would love on the surface, right to send
Speaker 1: their kid to summer camp where they get to do
Speaker 1: horseback riding and flying small planes and fishing and camaraderie, fellowshit,
Speaker 1: singing kumbai ya and all that shit, hanging with the boys.
Speaker 1: But that's why. And yes, I get it, this was
Speaker 1: the fucking seventies and they didn't know about Nick Reiner
Speaker 1: stinging bee holes yet. But come on, people, protect your babies. Please,
Speaker 1: these camps, these boy scout troops and shit, fuck them,
Speaker 1: fuck them, fuck them all right, Oh you want to
Speaker 1: take my kids somewhere, You want to take my kid
Speaker 1: off somewhere for the summer and no parents around.
Speaker 3: Fuck you.
Speaker 1: But Sheldon was smart. He was smart. Most of these
Speaker 1: boys were actually from foster homes. They were foster kids.
Speaker 1: These were troubled kids. These boys were from unstable homes,
Speaker 1: boys that were subjected to the system. And these were
Speaker 1: children that basically didn't have families, most of them. And
Speaker 1: also that was supposed to be part of the fucking
Speaker 1: charitable aspect of this shit. But Sheldon would take these impoverished,
Speaker 1: underprivileged children, and he would give them the opportunity to
Speaker 1: experience a vacation, to see what it's like to go
Speaker 1: to a fun place, to be loved, to be taken
Speaker 1: care of. And it was a charity service and that's
Speaker 1: supposed to be the beauty of all of it. But
Speaker 1: just like the devil to appear to you as an
Speaker 1: angel of light, this is literally the wolf in sheep's clothing.
Speaker 1: These boys were probably so fucking excited and they had
Speaker 1: absolutely no idea what was in store for them. And
Speaker 1: you know, they get there, they start to settle in
Speaker 1: on North Fox Island and they realize that the mood
Speaker 1: is starting to change quickly, right, and the clothes were
Speaker 1: actually the first thing to get addressed. The kids would
Speaker 1: show up thinking everything's normal. You got your little suit
Speaker 1: case and your little you know, whatever the fuck you
Speaker 1: brought with you, and before you know what, the camp
Speaker 1: counselors are like, you boys are fine to just hang
Speaker 1: out in your panty drawers, uh, or actually just be
Speaker 1: just be naked. How about that? How about that, you know,
Speaker 1: take your breeches and just throw them in the lake,
Speaker 1: because we just we just hang we just be hanging
Speaker 1: out at North Fox Island. We'd just be hanging out,
Speaker 1: so physical contact was normalized, and they would say things
Speaker 1: like this is natural, this is trust, this how you grow.
Speaker 1: Then enter the photographers. There are always photographers around every
Speaker 1: second every day these boys were on the fucking island.
Speaker 1: It's like they had their own personalized film crews. They're
Speaker 1: just followed by workers with cameras and a lot of
Speaker 1: the time they'd go, you know, try to do some
Speaker 1: little fun thing that was offered, archery or swimming, or
Speaker 1: go chop down a tree in the woods, whatever, and
Speaker 1: every second there was a person behind them with the camera,
Speaker 1: fucking you know, trying to get some type of little
Speaker 1: pose out of them, like, you know, strike a pose,
Speaker 1: strike a pose for the camp. Smile. I bet you
Speaker 1: can't do the splits a bit. You can't do the splits.
Speaker 1: Can't you do the splits for the camera? Uh? Hey,
Speaker 1: show me how you pee with your penis for the
Speaker 1: camera for the camera over here? You know, Hey, show
Speaker 1: show me how how far you can spread your cheeks.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, really get in there, maybe a little pupil
Speaker 1: all out. And part of the reason why they did
Speaker 1: this was proof for the parents that everything was fine,
Speaker 1: and they'd send the pictures home to the families and
Speaker 1: then you know, Mom's like, oh, I don't know why
Speaker 1: his penis is out, but it looks like he's having
Speaker 1: a great time with hunting and fishing and climbing trees. Uh,
Speaker 1: he must be having so much fun. He just forgot
Speaker 1: to put his painty drawers on that day, like, get
Speaker 1: the fuck out of here. They would send home like
Speaker 1: twenty thirty forty fifty pictures of these kids and not
Speaker 1: one picture. A mom had some inkling of an intuition
Speaker 1: something wasn't fucking right. Where's my kid's breeches? Okay, wise
Speaker 1: he chopping down a tree in his panty drawers or
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck they were doing. But on an island
Speaker 1: like that, when you're totally fucking isolated, cut off and
Speaker 1: being controlled by these six son of a bitches, what
Speaker 1: feels like normal can change pretty quickly because no one
Speaker 1: from the outside world is coming to check up on you.
Speaker 1: And that's the whole the thing here is this island
Speaker 1: is just off in the middle of fucking nowhere. There's
Speaker 1: no police, there's no coastguard, there's no boat patrol, there
Speaker 1: is literally no law enforcement oversight at all where this
Speaker 1: is going on. So when the only adults that are
Speaker 1: around you are telling you to show him how you
Speaker 1: pee with your penis and to spread your cheeks and
Speaker 1: you know, spread Billy's cheeks for him, you just start thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: I gotta spread Billy's cheeks for him. You know, Let's
Speaker 1: show me how you can wipe each other. Show me
Speaker 1: how you can wipe each other. This is what's going
Speaker 1: on here. So most people who didn't really know what
Speaker 1: was going on just thought that Francis was just a
Speaker 1: rich guy with a weird hobby and some kind of
Speaker 1: a remote island that double does a summer camp and
Speaker 1: kids were having great, these great experiences that their parents
Speaker 1: couldn't normally afford, and that's the version everybody wanted to believe.
Speaker 1: And Sheldon actually worked with this other guy by the
Speaker 1: name of Jerald Richards, So he had this guy Richards,
Speaker 1: signing all of his documents and basically be kind of
Speaker 1: like his fall guy. So if anything went down, which
Speaker 1: it did, Richards would be left holding the bag because
Speaker 1: he was the one signing all this shit, and people
Speaker 1: thought that he was actually in charge, but he wasn't
Speaker 1: Francis Sheldon got this dude to agree to basically be
Speaker 1: a part of this and sign all the documents and shit.
Speaker 1: So Francis would have like a fall guy. If people
Speaker 1: found out what was really going on about this, he
Speaker 1: could just say, oh, actually it's not me. Gerald's in
Speaker 1: charge of everything. Fucking go find Gerald. But so, Jerald
Speaker 1: Richards was described as calm, cool, collected, friendly, and supposedly
Speaker 1: as some kind of fucking magician. He was a gym
Speaker 1: teacher at a Catholic school, and he would go to
Speaker 1: birthday parties and shit like John Wayne Gacy, these weird
Speaker 1: church events and do magic shows for people. If you
Speaker 1: find adult men going to children's birthday parties and dressing
Speaker 1: up doing magic shows, I don't care if they say
Speaker 1: they're fucking Spider Man or whatever, or you think you
Speaker 1: know that guy because he goes to your church. Hello.
Speaker 1: BTK was also a Boyscout camp leader and a church deacon.
Speaker 1: Listen to me, people, when you find adult men getting
Speaker 1: involved with some weird fucking magic show clown shit putting
Speaker 1: on little fucking parties for kids, you need to start
Speaker 1: questioning why the fuck they're interested in that? All right?
Speaker 1: But so, he was supposed to be like a great talker,
Speaker 1: and he was funny. Everybody loved him, and he did
Speaker 1: his freaking magic tricks and shit. And when the parents
Speaker 1: when they met mister Richards, they didn't see a predator.
Speaker 1: They saw an exceptionally structured adult who understood kids. He
Speaker 1: was someone who talked about discipline and self awareness and
Speaker 1: personal growth, and he spoke in that soft, confident way
Speaker 1: that made people feel stupid for even questioning him. And
Speaker 1: he was so trusted in the community that oftentimes families
Speaker 1: would have problems, like with their teenage sons, and they'd say, oh,
Speaker 1: let's go talk to mister Richards.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Well, all the while he was secretly running train on
Speaker 1: all their boys at Pedo Island. So Richards understood that
Speaker 1: children who felt like they were breaking the rules might tell.
Speaker 1: So the thing is get children to believe that they're
Speaker 1: following the rules, so they'll stay pretty quiet. So he
Speaker 1: confused the boys with thinking basically like getting a sweaty
Speaker 1: bee hole rub was just a bonding exercise and shit
Speaker 1: like that. They started changing the language around this stuff.
Speaker 1: So when they came home and they were like, it's
Speaker 1: kind of I felt really uncomfortable when mister Richards was
Speaker 1: doing bonding exercises with me. The parents are sitting there
Speaker 1: thinking like, oh, well, that's just personal growth, babe. It's
Speaker 1: everything's fine, that's just part of personal growth. It's a
Speaker 1: bonding exercise. Never mind that the bonding exercise was mister
Speaker 1: Richards lubing up their kids. Be all right. So, and
Speaker 1: these pictures that were being taken of these children in
Speaker 1: compromising situations were being marketed and sold to people whose
Speaker 1: names never got revealed, and they were buying the pictures
Speaker 1: of these naked young men and that just wasn't doing
Speaker 1: it for him anymore. So the photographs became film, and
Speaker 1: then it was photographs in film that became the product
Speaker 1: of Peto Island. And some boys didn't fully understand at
Speaker 1: that time. They just knew they felt wrong, like something
Speaker 1: was wrong. Other of the boys were actually scared, but
Speaker 1: they didn't know what the fuck to do with that fear,
Speaker 1: and most of the adults around them reinforced the silence,
Speaker 1: and the adults would say like, this is normal, you're
Speaker 1: overthinking it. This is what trust looks like. And basically,
Speaker 1: on the island, repetition creates reality, right, so you keep
Speaker 1: thinking like Oh, this is normal. This is normal. And
Speaker 1: that's how methodical all of it was. This was a
Speaker 1: systematic approach doing exactly what it was designed to do.
Speaker 1: The island itself wasn't just isolating the boys from the world.
Speaker 1: It was creating a product for these guys that ran
Speaker 1: the place right. And something you'll realize is that on
Speaker 1: North Fox Island, the adults did things like calling nudy
Speaker 1: natural and calling touching trust building, and calling sexual education
Speaker 1: and growth, and they would call obedience maturity. So the
Speaker 1: boys aren't thinking like this adult is abusing me. They're
Speaker 1: thinking I'm uncomfortable, but they're telling me it's normal, and
Speaker 1: I guess I'm just the weird one. And for fucking years,
Speaker 1: this system held up, and these guys went undetected by
Speaker 1: law enforcement for literally years they were able to operate.
Speaker 1: Most boys didn't talk at all. Some tried, but they
Speaker 1: were pretty quickly dismissed, and some just buried it in
Speaker 1: their subconscious wiped it out. But I found a clip,
Speaker 1: and I want to play this clip of a man
Speaker 1: who survived Peto Island.
Speaker 4: We found one of the original kids who was on
Speaker 4: that island, and we found him through a mistake he
Speaker 4: knew Francis Sheldon, Gerald Richards Dire Grossman, and he testified
Speaker 4: against them. At the age of only fifteen, he found
Speaker 4: himself in the middle of a real life conspiracy.
Speaker 1: We gave him a call and he had a lot
Speaker 1: to say.
Speaker 4: Michael is a down to earth guy, no pretensions, and
Speaker 4: he makes no bones about telling the story of what
Speaker 4: happened to him back in the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 3: You know, I was out with my shovel twelve years
Speaker 3: old and I come across Jerry Richard's house, who's actually
Speaker 3: a couple of blocks down. He seemed like a really
Speaker 3: nice guy, and I saw this Irock gave me five bucks.
Speaker 3: He told me he was a magician and showed me
Speaker 3: a couple of magic tricks. I actually met his wife
Speaker 3: and his child and we became friends. Nothing was going
Speaker 3: on at first, and then he worked for the YMCA,
Speaker 3: and he was a school teacher, a priest, a hypnotist,
Speaker 3: a magician in a clown and he even taught that stuff.
Speaker 3: He taught photography at the YMCA. He was teaching witchcraft
Speaker 3: at YMCA. I actually got an award that I still
Speaker 3: had to this very day. I don't know why. For Wicca,
Speaker 3: which that was kind of strange. My mother wasn't happy
Speaker 3: about that at how. She didn't want him showing me
Speaker 3: anything about Wicca and stuff, and was just left it
Speaker 3: more of a mystery to me.
Speaker 4: So when Gerald Richards asked you to be his assistant
Speaker 4: in his magic act at twelve years or thirteen, who
Speaker 4: wouldn't want to do that?
Speaker 3: It was cool. I mean, I'm going to be a
Speaker 3: magician's assistant. And I actually even raised his dubs, teaching
Speaker 3: him how to be stuffed in a hat so they
Speaker 3: could pop out, you know, during the magic trick. And
Speaker 3: it just started out with you know, the hugs, you know,
Speaker 3: the squeeze is the right friend, and then you know,
Speaker 3: like I said, he was in theography. The next thing,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm taking pictures and stuff. They were nude pictures.
Speaker 3: A lot of it was bondage. He had the magic
Speaker 3: ropes that we'd us in our magic tricks where he
Speaker 3: would tie me up with the ropes and then I
Speaker 3: would escape from him when we're doing magic shows. Well,
Speaker 3: he would also use those ropes doing pornography pictures. Porn pictures,
Speaker 3: you know, Coluse, He explained me, we couldn't talk about it.
Speaker 3: Then you know, it got worse. Other kids got involved
Speaker 3: and he had us taking pictures and it wasn't much
Speaker 3: longer after that started talking about his friends they see
Speaker 3: my pictures and they wanted to meet me and stuff
Speaker 3: like that. Within six months and knowing him, I was
Speaker 3: already into child prostitution. We would be either going to
Speaker 3: a church to do a magic show to where there
Speaker 3: would be a preacher or a priest or a clergyman
Speaker 3: of some sort there that you know, I would be
Speaker 3: sold to. There's places where I've had to go where
Speaker 3: there were other kids.
Speaker 4: This is the hard part for people to understand, and
Speaker 4: they're going to think whatever they're going to think. But
Speaker 4: when you're that age and then you get into something
Speaker 4: that you go, I can't tell my parents what I'm into.
Speaker 1: You're kind of in for a penny, in for a pound, right.
Speaker 3: It was so difficult because the guilt I felt. I
Speaker 3: couldn't even look my dad in the eye when I
Speaker 3: would come home, or my mom. I mean, it was
Speaker 3: easier to deal with my mom, but my dad, I
Speaker 3: couldn't even really look at him.
Speaker 4: And all the while, your parents and everybody thought you
Speaker 4: were just Gerald Richards's magic show assistant.
Speaker 3: Yep, Jerry Richards. He had everybody duke. I mean, my
Speaker 3: mom loved the guy. My dad thought he was a
Speaker 3: little weird, but he really liked them. I mean, everybody
Speaker 3: liked Jerry, all the neighbors. Nobody knew nothing about that
Speaker 3: pedophile stuff or even suspected anything like that. I mean,
Speaker 3: at twelve years old, this guy was training to meet
Speaker 3: how to.
Speaker 4: Be you know, did you ever want to tell your parents?
Speaker 4: Do you ever want to say one day, hey, mom,
Speaker 4: guess what?
Speaker 3: No? No, No, I could never do that. I don't
Speaker 3: think I could everyone up and told them today. You
Speaker 3: would hope that your kids would. I'm not so sure
Speaker 3: if they would. When they do get older, they'll come
Speaker 3: tell you, though. Yeah, they'll tell you everything when they're older,
Speaker 3: if you're close with your family.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So, Michael, were you sex trafficked?
Speaker 3: For sure? That's what it was all about. I mean,
Speaker 3: particularly at the Magic convention. We met up with Sheldon,
Speaker 3: and there was some sex acts during that time too,
Speaker 3: But nine out of ten out of times when we
Speaker 3: were out of town, I would literally be going to
Speaker 3: campgrounds here in Michigan and in Tennessee, and then there's
Speaker 3: the Island. I was all over the place. Now I
Speaker 3: think back, a lot of really bad things happen in
Speaker 3: the Detroit area.
Speaker 4: So, Michael, how did you first meet Francis Sheldon.
Speaker 3: I guess Sheldon met up with Richard somehow through passing
Speaker 3: my pictures and other churches pictures arounds through the post office,
Speaker 3: and I remember I'm telling me all about Sheldon. All
Speaker 3: this guy's rich you Olton Island. He's a really nice guy.
Speaker 3: And the first time I actually met Sheldon, it would
Speaker 3: needed to be at the campgrounds all and Jerry used
Speaker 3: to have a doctor's office too import here on where
Speaker 3: he would do like massages and stuff, but I'd probably
Speaker 3: call it something different today. I met with sheldonan there before,
Speaker 3: met with him a few times, and they felt comfortable
Speaker 3: enough to where Jerry wanted dinner just Shelton to my parents.
Speaker 3: So Frank came over with Jerry and we all had
Speaker 3: dinner together, my parents and them, and Frank Shalldon was
Speaker 3: telling my parents who he is and what he does.
Speaker 4: Sheldon had dinner with your parents, you the Gerald Richards
Speaker 4: Sheldonner your parents did do? Sitting there knowing what's the
Speaker 4: reality of this. People listening to this will be absolutely
Speaker 4: shocked to hear this, that you that this scenario was happening.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I guess, you know, back in them days,
Speaker 3: people were more trusting. Sheldon took my entire family for
Speaker 3: a flight over the Blue Water Bridge one time. He
Speaker 3: was over for dinner and everybody got to fly in
Speaker 3: his airplane. So, oh, everybody loved Shelton. That guy was cool.
Speaker 4: So your parents gave them provision that you could go
Speaker 4: to the island because it was a camp that was
Speaker 4: there for underprivileged boys or to give boys a chance.
Speaker 4: How many kids were on that island? Can you recall
Speaker 4: ten to forty twenty?
Speaker 3: Well, now there was probably six to eight of us
Speaker 3: out there. Some of the kids they didn't have no
Speaker 3: clue what these guys were about. I think they were
Speaker 3: being sculpted, bringing the island to get them all excited
Speaker 3: and stuff, and they would try grooming them. At that point,
Speaker 3: some of the kids knew exactly what was going on.
Speaker 3: Those were the kids that you know to take photos with.
Speaker 4: And how old were you.
Speaker 3: Well, it all happened between the age of twelve and fifteen.
Speaker 3: I was in Ziver's training at fifteen and when it ended,
Speaker 3: that's when the detectives came to talk to me and
Speaker 3: put fear of God in me. So he had, you know,
Speaker 3: two and a half three years to groom me. I
Speaker 3: guess that's the word rios.
Speaker 4: How did the North Fox Island fall apart?
Speaker 3: He and Eddie? And I guess they hurt Eddie Richards
Speaker 3: or Sheldon Sideomize Daddy. I think that he was only
Speaker 3: eight or ninety years old, and they heard him and
Speaker 3: Eddie's mom got the police involved, and after Eddie the
Speaker 3: police came to question me and but fear of God
Speaker 3: in me.
Speaker 4: Here's what's really scary about what happened next. When the
Speaker 4: police questioned Michael, they didn't bring a social worker or
Speaker 4: a guidance counselor Instead, they treated him like a criminal.
Speaker 4: Now imagine being fifteen years old. They pulled you out
Speaker 4: of the driver's ed class, put you in an empty
Speaker 4: classroom alone, and get in your face telling you you're
Speaker 4: going to jail for a life if you don't confess.
Speaker 4: Confess to what this idea Michael was complicit in the
Speaker 4: boys Camp scam surface years later. Gerald Richards gave interviews
Speaker 4: from prison, singing Michael's praises like he was a business
Speaker 4: partner and not a fifteen year old boy. If there's
Speaker 4: one thing I've learned about pedophiles, you can't always believe
Speaker 4: them when they tell you the kid is in on it.
Speaker 3: And the first thing I did when I got home
Speaker 3: was called Jerry Richards and told them please, Sir questioned me.
Speaker 3: That's when the wils really started turning, and it was
Speaker 3: an gun hold. They were going to arrest everybody, and
Speaker 3: everybody's going to be They're all going to yeil. They
Speaker 3: gave Jerry Richards eighteen months. They let them out, the
Speaker 3: freaks go, and my dad knew all the detectives, and
Speaker 3: I think that the detectives told my dad mom something.
Speaker 3: My mom was so scared she wanted me out at
Speaker 3: her sister in laws in California. They knew that these
Speaker 3: guys were powerful that were molesting me in that anything
Speaker 3: it happened.
Speaker 4: This was a much bigger ring with tentacles in a
Speaker 4: lot of places. But when did you realize he was
Speaker 4: attached to something much bigger?
Speaker 3: That would be in the early eighties. I got an
Speaker 3: attorney involved, and that's when I was dealing with a
Speaker 3: prosecutor because he wanted to at the date shout and
Speaker 3: he said they knew where a girlsman was too, and
Speaker 3: he wanted to bring him both to justice. And that's
Speaker 3: when I started thinking. And that next three or four weeks,
Speaker 3: things just started aspiring and out of control, and I
Speaker 3: got angry. I got really angry. That's when I realized, Hey,
Speaker 3: what the hell was Jerry doing to me? And what
Speaker 3: was he doing? What was I doing? You know, I
Speaker 3: had to question myself what was going on.
Speaker 4: Over the years, Michael's desire for some kind of justice
Speaker 4: has not diminished, It's only grown. Just like we trusted
Speaker 4: our camp counselors, we trusted the institutions and charities that
Speaker 4: received state funds to care for kids, so did Michael Farquhar,
Speaker 4: and so did his parents. Michael and the kids at
Speaker 4: that camp, like his younger friend Eddie, were carefully chosen, groomed,
Speaker 4: given perks, money, and then trapped by their own guilt
Speaker 4: and shame. And because the guy running the island was
Speaker 4: rich and influential, he got away with it. Did Gerald
Speaker 4: ever say it was sorry?
Speaker 3: No? Nobody said sorry, no, no. These pedophiles are not
Speaker 3: sorry for what they do. We just don't understand why
Speaker 3: they do it, that's all, you know. And we're supposed
Speaker 3: to live with that.
Speaker 4: We took Michael back to North Fox Island and he
Speaker 4: went into the bunk house, which was one of the
Speaker 4: places where he was abused. As you've heard, Michael is
Speaker 4: very polite and soft spoken, but when he re entered
Speaker 4: that bunk house, forty years of anger surfaced.
Speaker 3: I was molested in this room. Yeah, this uh lot?
Speaker 3: How bad things happen here?
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was a time that I'd burnt this whole
Speaker 5: island right to the ground, spent.
Speaker 3: My whole life on and killed myself over THEE.
Speaker 5: Just to put the pain away, to make the memories
Speaker 5: go away. And why am I trying to remember thee?
Speaker 5: We need to take a break, guys, Yes, sure, No,
Speaker 5: he's starting to hallucinate.
Speaker 4: Michael wanted to go back and face those demons, and
Speaker 4: it took a lot of courage for him to do that. Michael,
Speaker 4: when did you actually start to deal with what happened
Speaker 4: back then?
Speaker 3: The eighties were really scary for me when the prosecutor
Speaker 3: came to me and started talking to me about what
Speaker 3: took place in the seventies. And at that point, my
Speaker 3: first child was about to be born, and wow, remember
Speaker 3: what was going on in the seventies. It kind of
Speaker 3: messed me up. There was a time with my snific
Speaker 3: the other at the time with my first child, where
Speaker 3: she said that I was talking in my sleep all
Speaker 3: the time and fighting in my sleep. She says that
Speaker 3: I speak different languages, I want sleep. And there was
Speaker 3: some really rough time. So I started seeing therapist and
Speaker 3: telling them the stories. They didn't believe me. I don't
Speaker 3: even think the prosecutors when I tried telling them, I
Speaker 3: think they thought I was crazy too, But it was bad.
Speaker 3: They knew, they knew something happened with Shlodon and Richards
Speaker 3: and stopping, and all of Richards were somewhat prosecuted. I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't even think she did two years. I think
Speaker 3: he did eighteen months.
Speaker 1: Pretty rough stuff there, and it's really really sad. But
Speaker 1: how does this story end? So on July twenty third,
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six, Gerald Richards was finally arrested and charged
Speaker 1: with criminal sexual conduct involving a minor Now on the island.
Speaker 1: These boys were made to get completely naked, forced to
Speaker 1: get an erection, and then they measured their fucking penises
Speaker 1: and told them that they were sizing them for jockstraps,
Speaker 1: and it was this one incident that finally drew the
Speaker 1: attention of police. But while police were still doing their
Speaker 1: paperwork on Richard's regarding the jockstrap measuring, something was already
Speaker 1: taking place on North Fox Island. Suddenly flights increased, files moved,
Speaker 1: and cabinets were emptied. It was a very strategic clean up,
Speaker 1: and the timing is very important here because when law
Speaker 1: and finally turned towards Sheldon and the island, the trail
Speaker 1: was already cooling. Richards, facing real fucking prison time, began
Speaker 1: like a fucking canary and started saying all this shit
Speaker 1: was actually Sheldon, and that the camp was afront and
Speaker 1: it was actually a production site, and he admitted that
Speaker 1: North Fox Island wasn't just a place where abuse happened,
Speaker 1: it was a place where abuse was manufactured. When Michigan
Speaker 1: State Police finally rated North Fox Island, expectations were extremely high.
Speaker 1: Based on witness statements alone. Investigators were expecting to find
Speaker 1: enough evidence to dismantle an entire network. Films, photographs, movies,
Speaker 1: lists of names, people purchasing this child, pornography, financial records,
Speaker 1: proof of who visited the island, proof of who paid
Speaker 1: and of who knew. But what they found instead was
Speaker 1: literally nothing. The buildings were there, the trails, the airstrip,
Speaker 1: but the shelves were completely empty, the cabinet's bear drawers
Speaker 1: cleaned out. Whatever had been stored there was completely gone.
Speaker 1: And that's the moment when this case turned from horrifying
Speaker 1: to infuriating, because yes, people, they got away with it.
Speaker 1: Only fucking Richards went to prison. One guy and he
Speaker 1: only served ten years. Francis Sheldon, Sure, yeah, he was charged,
Speaker 1: but he was never tried in court. He was actually
Speaker 1: declared mentally unfit. It's all in who you know people,
Speaker 1: all right, And he left the country and he lived
Speaker 1: out his days in Amsterdam, where he died. And the buyers,
Speaker 1: the people that bought all the child pornography, they were
Speaker 1: never publicly named, they were never charged, they were never
Speaker 1: exposed for a case that produced literally thousands of images
Speaker 1: and films. The complete lack of downstream accountability is fucking sickening.
Speaker 1: There was no public outcry for these children for what
Speaker 1: they had gone through. And it's because the people that
Speaker 1: were indulging in the material being manufactured on Pedo Island
Speaker 1: were people with a lot of fucking money, and the
Speaker 1: people that were partaking that were fucking flying to the
Speaker 1: island and abusing these children that were buying the content
Speaker 1: that was coming from this island. They were still out
Speaker 1: there and they wanted this to fucking disappear. But it
Speaker 1: doesn't change the fact that this was and probably still
Speaker 1: is a complete network. You don't produce that much child
Speaker 1: pornography material for just two fucking dudes. You don't build
Speaker 1: the infrastructure, and you don't document the abuse and distribute
Speaker 1: it without a market, and you don't clean out an
Speaker 1: island that thoroughly one man being incarcerated the other not
Speaker 1: unless you know exactly what you are protecting. It is
Speaker 1: a network of horrible ritual abuse, just like we see
Speaker 1: over and over and over and over again. But it
Speaker 1: gets covered up because the people partaking in it are
Speaker 1: fucking political socialites, people with money and people that can
Speaker 1: make this go away. And it's gonna keep fucking happening.
Speaker 1: It's never gonna stop happening as long as human beings
Speaker 1: are breathing. Children and young adults are going to be
Speaker 1: sexually trapped. And I'm sorry it's repulsive, but that is
Speaker 1: the world that we live in to this day. North
Speaker 1: Fox Island is state owned, mostly empty and mostly overgrown.
Speaker 1: The buildings are rotting, the trails are disappearing, The airstrip
Speaker 1: is barely visible through grass and brush. Nature is just
Speaker 1: kind of naturing over there. Everyone's left the island. There's
Speaker 1: no sign that tells you what happened there. There's no memorial,
Speaker 1: there's no plaque, there's no acknowledgment whatsoever. This is something
Speaker 1: horrific that happened to a lot of young men and
Speaker 1: there was a lot of traumatic ritual abuse and a
Speaker 1: lot of just the most horrific sexual degrading traumatic abuse
Speaker 1: that anyone could ever go through. And it all got
Speaker 1: swept under the fucking rug and everyone's names were wiped,
Speaker 1: evidence wiped, all of it just gone because naturally, politicians, financiers,
Speaker 1: people with money, people with power were the ones partaking
Speaker 1: in all of this. There were people flying in, flying
Speaker 1: out like there was a constant stream of these scumbags
Speaker 1: just like Lolita expressing it sexually assaulting these boys, and
Speaker 1: then leave in the island by see you next time,
Speaker 1: under no type of law enforcement watch whatsoever. So after
Speaker 1: Richard's arrest, an investigation was carried out by the Michigan
Speaker 1: State Police detectives discovered large cachets of child pornography in
Speaker 1: Richard's car and his office, some of which was Stampton
Speaker 1: envelopes in preparation to be mailed. Also found were lists
Speaker 1: of names and addresses of customers, as well as contacts
Speaker 1: to other figures in the child pornography and prostitution business. So,
Speaker 1: as part of the plea deal, Richards gave law enforcement
Speaker 1: a great deal of information in regards to the operation
Speaker 1: they were running out of North Fox. He confessed that
Speaker 1: children were flown to the island to be filmed in
Speaker 1: child pornography and that his partner, some dude named Grossman,
Speaker 1: had helped him form the mission and participated in a
Speaker 1: child orgy with himself and Sheldon at a holiday inn
Speaker 1: in Port here On, Michigan. So, three days after Richards
Speaker 1: was arrested, Sheldon's home in ann Arbor was raided by
Speaker 1: law enforcement. However, he was not present and all of
Speaker 1: his cabinets and drawers had been completely empty prior to
Speaker 1: police raiding the property. But the scale of abuse gets big,
Speaker 1: and it gets big fast. Eventually you start hearing the
Speaker 1: same names over and over and over again, and the
Speaker 1: more digging you, do you realize the Michigan abuse ring
Speaker 1: went from Francis Sheldon's phony fucking so called Brother Paul's
Speaker 1: Children's Mission to another phony camp funded by Sheldon in
Speaker 1: another fucking state altogether. This one was in Tennessee, a
Speaker 1: place that Francis Sheldon sponsored with his cheeritable donations. So
Speaker 1: he funded the cast Corridor network. He obviously funded Pedo Island,
Speaker 1: and then he funded this fucking place in Tennessee and
Speaker 1: called it a charitable donation. It happens to be in Winchester, Tennessee,
Speaker 1: and it was a place run by a defroct priest
Speaker 1: named Bud vermil And while Sheldon may have escaped in
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six, Bud Vermial wasn't so lucky. But the
Speaker 1: reason that Bud Vermial was caught in Tennessee wasn't because
Speaker 1: of Francis Sheldon in the Pedo Island bust. It was
Speaker 1: because of another ring of pedophiles who took over a
Speaker 1: boy Scout troop and used it to launder children nationwide.
Speaker 1: But that's another episode. With all of this in mind,
Speaker 1: everything that I have just presented to you about the
Speaker 1: original Pedo Island about the pedophile networks running in the
Speaker 1: cast corridor. How the Candyman peto murderer in Houston said
Speaker 1: that he was working with a network. John Wayne Gacy
Speaker 1: said he was working with a network. Obviously, the snow
Speaker 1: Boys that were killed as part of the Oakland County
Speaker 1: child murders were connected to this pedo Island. With all
Speaker 1: of that in mind, and then later we have Jeffrey
Speaker 1: Epstein and Lolita expressing it could this go back further
Speaker 1: than we even imagined because this was in the sixties
Speaker 1: and seventies, right, But could it go back further? Is
Speaker 1: there another island we have yet to discover? And for that,
Speaker 1: I'm going to read you a synopsis from a book
Speaker 1: slash movie that came out in nineteen forty that may
Speaker 1: give us a clue as to if there could have
Speaker 1: been a older pedo Island. Here's the little synopsis. A
Speaker 1: mysterious coachman hires Honest John to find disobedient and naughty
Speaker 1: boys for him to take to Pleasure Island, a notorious
Speaker 1: and infamous place. Honest John, despite the legal risks and
Speaker 1: the coachman's implication of what happens to the boys, accepts
Speaker 1: the job. Out of fear and finds Pinocchio, persuading him
Speaker 1: to take a vacation on Pleasure Island. On the way
Speaker 1: to the island, Pinocchio befriends lamp Wick, a delinquent boy
Speaker 1: at Pleasure Island. Without rules or authority to enforce their activity, Pinocchio,
Speaker 1: lamp Wick, and many other boys soon engage in vices
Speaker 1: such as vandalism, fighting, smoking, and drinking. Jimminy eventually finds
Speaker 1: Pinocchio in a bar smoking and playing pool with lamp Wick,
Speaker 1: and the two have a falling out after Pinocchio defends
Speaker 1: lamp Wick for his actions. As Jimmy tries leaving Pleasure Island,
Speaker 1: he discovers that the island hides a horrible curse that
Speaker 1: transforms the boys into donkeys after making jack asses out
Speaker 1: of themselves, and they are sold by the coachman into
Speaker 1: slave labor. Pinocchio witnesses lamp Wick transform into a donkey,
Speaker 1: and with Jimmy's help, he flees before he can be
Speaker 1: fully transformed himself, though he still has a donkey's ears
Speaker 1: and tail. Upon returning home, Pinocchio and Jimminy find Geppetto's
Speaker 1: workshop deserted and obtain a letter from the Blue Faery
Speaker 1: in the form of a dove, stating that Geppetto had
Speaker 1: set out to see and search for Pinocchio on Pleasure Island,
Speaker 1: but got swallowed by a gigantic, a vicious sperm whale
Speaker 1: called Monstro. So, for those of you who have watched Pinocchio,
Speaker 1: I'm sure all of that is ringing Nabel, you remember
Speaker 1: this story, sure, And yes they did a live action
Speaker 1: Pinocchio featuring Tom Hanks. So it's in our faces. And uh,
Speaker 1: it's clearly obvious to me that this Pleasure Island. People
Speaker 1: are thinking that it's talking about something epsteinish, but I'm
Speaker 1: here to tell you it goes back definitely farther than
Speaker 1: Epstein goes back definitely farther than Francis Sheldon and North
Speaker 1: Fox Island. What island are they talking about here? Because
Speaker 1: we know Disney incorporates actual reality, fantasizes it and puts
Speaker 1: it into our face as if it were a joke.
Speaker 1: They're laughing at us, and they've been taking our boys
Speaker 1: to Pleasure Island. This was in the forties. How long
Speaker 1: have they really been doing this shit? Where's this island?
Speaker 1: I want to know, I want to know. One day,
Speaker 1: maybe we'll find out before Little Saint James and before
Speaker 1: North Fox Island they were taking these boys somewhere else.
Speaker 1: I can be one hundred percent sure of that. But
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for this episode today, guys, what
Speaker 1: are your thoughts, your feelings, your opinions, you know, I
Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed it. And just as a closing thought,
Speaker 1: this is a really really old Cosmic Peach episode. But uh,
Speaker 1: if you will entertain me, if you will humor me,
Speaker 1: go back, go back, back, back, back back in history. Patreon,
Speaker 1: this is for you because it was a half episode.
Speaker 1: I never published the whole episode. It was only ever
Speaker 1: available in the short version for free, and Patreon has
Speaker 1: had access to the full episode forever long. But go
Speaker 1: back and listen. Me and my cousin we talked about
Speaker 1: what could have happened to Johnny Gosh, and I said,
Speaker 1: I came up with a theory, didn't have any fucking
Speaker 1: help from anybody. I put this together on my own,
Speaker 1: didn't hear anybody talking about it, didn't see anybody talking
Speaker 1: about it. I literally just sat there and almost did
Speaker 1: like a fucking detective's web of possible outcomes and Where, what, How? When?
Speaker 1: And a fucking boys camp came up. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say anything more about it. Just go back listen to
Speaker 1: the episode. You'll see what I'm saying. What happened to
Speaker 1: Johnny gosh Er, whatever the fuck I called that episode? Patreon,
Speaker 1: go do it go now. But that's going to do
Speaker 1: it for us, folks. Thank you so much for listening,
Speaker 1: and I will catch you on the next one.
Speaker 3: I mean, at first when I heard Epstein, he was
Speaker 3: buried too for a while. You know, he got in
Speaker 3: trouble and it I got buried. Those girls never got
Speaker 3: no justice. And this is what scares me. You know, theories,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, and all these rumors that
Speaker 3: we've been caring about our government and politicians. It needs
Speaker 3: to be cleaned. It needs to be cleaned a lot
Speaker 3: of people. I mean, it's we're going to find out
Speaker 3: what this Epstein thing, just how bad it is. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's ugly, you know what. I sent the governor a
Speaker 3: letter and I thought it was a pretty good letter.
Speaker 3: I even had an attorney proof read it. I had
Speaker 3: another writer read it so it wasn't sounded like I
Speaker 3: was crazy or something. And I didn't even get a
Speaker 3: reply from the governor. I didn't get a reply from
Speaker 3: the state police. I didn't get a reply from the
Speaker 3: attorney general. They sit in silence.
Speaker 4: What did you say in your letter?
Speaker 3: I explained to them, you know, just like I've been
Speaker 3: saying to you today. You know, I went through different
Speaker 3: periods of my life in this this whole thing, you know,
Speaker 3: and I remember the seventies. Who wants to drag the
Speaker 3: seventies around with them today? But oh yeah, I went
Speaker 3: back there. You know, I thought that I needed to,
Speaker 3: I had to. But I get just I get so angry.
Speaker 3: You know, I trusted the police. They couldn't do nothing.
Speaker 3: They couldn't get these guys. They were too slick. How
Speaker 3: Come none of these guys had brought to justice. They
Speaker 3: had help, they had helped getting away. It exactly was
Speaker 3: helping them. I never had no reason to doubt prosecutors.
Speaker 3: I mean, I had no reason to doubt that they
Speaker 3: didn't do their best efforts to get justice. So with
Speaker 3: that being said, other law officials in other counties, other
Speaker 3: branches of the government stonelobbed them. They stone lobbed our community.
Speaker 3: You know, you know, there's got to be an end
Speaker 3: of this stuff. My attorney, many many years ago, have
Speaker 3: told me some stories are just too big to be told.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it on my island, my island because
Speaker 1: I'm Ima Norma. I ain't let bark are y'all trying
Speaker 1: to make any horma. I ain't live by you based
Speaker 1: on yeah, like a why one man with your taphone.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just I live bar. I'm gonna just I
Speaker 1: live bar. I'm gonna just keep one bar, You're gonna
Speaker 1: keep nat. I'm gonna be staring at the side. I'm
Speaker 1: just