WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:01.560 It's nice eyes. 2 00:00:04.240 --> 00:00:06.759 Boston's news radio. 3 00:00:07.839 --> 00:00:10.400 Hour and before coming up here on a Tuesday night, 4 00:00:10.439 --> 00:00:14.160 excuse me, a little bit of a frog in my throat. 5 00:00:16.600 --> 00:00:20.199 That's better. I think doing a lot of talking to night. 6 00:00:20.280 --> 00:00:23.320 Everybody helped me out here, if you will. So. The 7 00:00:23.480 --> 00:00:27.679 US Surgeon General has issued a report earlier this month. 8 00:00:27.800 --> 00:00:29.679 Just getting around to talk about it. There's been a 9 00:00:29.760 --> 00:00:34.840 lot going on, and the US Surgeon General, whose name 10 00:00:36.719 --> 00:00:42.399 is doctor Vivek Murphy. Murphy is how his name is pronounced, 11 00:00:43.359 --> 00:00:47.320 released a new Surgeon's General advisory on alcohol and cancer risk, 12 00:00:48.200 --> 00:00:53.759 outlining a direct link between alcohol consumption and increased cancer risks. 13 00:00:54.719 --> 00:00:59.439 Alcohol consumption is the third leading the third leading preventable 14 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:06.159 of cancer in the United States after tobacco and obesity, 15 00:01:06.200 --> 00:01:10.359 increasing risk for at least seven types of cancer. While 16 00:01:10.439 --> 00:01:15.400 scientific evidence for this connection has been growing over the 17 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:19.719 last forty years, less than half of Americans recognize it 18 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:24.239 as a risk factor. Reading now from a press release 19 00:01:25.040 --> 00:01:30.719 from the US Department of Health and Human Services, the 20 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:36.560 Surgeon General's advisory includes a recommendation to increase awareness to 21 00:01:36.599 --> 00:01:41.439 help minimize alcohol related cancer causes and deaths. I got 22 00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:46.719 to be honest with you. I'm fairly smart. I did not. 23 00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:51.519 I mean I thought about the risk of alcohol. And again, 24 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:55.439 this is any sort of alcohol. It could be beer, 25 00:01:55.560 --> 00:01:59.920 it could be wine, it could be spirits, hard liquor. 26 00:02:01.400 --> 00:02:03.879 I have thought about that is I think most of 27 00:02:03.959 --> 00:02:06.959 us have thought about that. And you think about that 28 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:12.280 primarily in Okay, I got to watch out when I'm driving. 29 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:16.240 If I drive while I'm drunk, I can have big 30 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:18.240 problems that I can cause a lot of problems for 31 00:02:18.319 --> 00:02:22.000 other people. So that's one thing you want to avoid. 32 00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:26.919 I think most of us feel that way. Again, I 33 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:32.240 think that over time, during my lifetime, there's been an 34 00:02:32.280 --> 00:02:38.000 adjustment made by people towards how much they drink and 35 00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:43.680 under what circumstances. There have been a lot of, you know, 36 00:02:43.879 --> 00:02:47.319 public service announcements friends don't let friends drive drive drunk, 37 00:02:48.120 --> 00:02:52.000 and the public service announcements that you know, just you know, 38 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:56.280 you take the keys away from your friends if you're 39 00:02:56.280 --> 00:03:01.639 a real friend. Okay, But cancer risk, I don't think 40 00:03:01.639 --> 00:03:07.639 I was really thinking of that, and I don't know 41 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:11.680 that this shocks me either, says The direct link between 42 00:03:11.719 --> 00:03:15.560 alcohol consumption and cancer risk is well established for at 43 00:03:15.639 --> 00:03:25.280 least seven types of cancer, including cancers of the breast, colorectum, esophagus, liver, mouth, throat, 44 00:03:26.159 --> 00:03:30.639 and voice box, regardless of the type of alcohol meaning beer, wine, 45 00:03:30.680 --> 00:03:36.240 or spirits that's consumed for breast cancer specifically, this according 46 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:41.080 this is breast cancer. Sixteen point four percent of total 47 00:03:41.080 --> 00:03:46.560 breast cancer cases are attributable to alcohol consumption. In the US. 48 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:50.680 There are about one hundred thousand alcohol related cancer cases 49 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:56.280 and twenty thousand alcohol related cancer deaths annually. I was 50 00:03:56.319 --> 00:03:58.800 really not aware of this, to be honest with you, 51 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:06.360 I'm somebody who does enjoy cores, light, and I enjoy 52 00:04:06.400 --> 00:04:11.599 red wine. Those are my drinks of choice. This is 53 00:04:11.599 --> 00:04:16.959 a USA Today article in which the Surgeon General is quoted. 54 00:04:18.560 --> 00:04:24.079 It's outlining a direct link, a direct link between drinking 55 00:04:24.160 --> 00:04:28.120 alcohol and increased risk of developing seven types of cancel 56 00:04:28.319 --> 00:04:33.000 the types I just read. Now, we're about six days 57 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:37.759 away from a change of government. It will be interesting 58 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:42.199 if Health and Human Services under Robert F. Kennedy Junior 59 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:47.720 emphasizes this as much as the current Surgeon General does. 60 00:04:48.439 --> 00:04:53.279 So I just want to open it up. I guess 61 00:04:53.879 --> 00:04:58.720 there's a in the article. There's a doctor Michael Siegel 62 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:01.680 of Tufts Universities of Medicine so he's a local guy, 63 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:04.560 he says. My sense is that he probably got fed 64 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:06.959 up and he basically has had enough of the alcohol 65 00:05:07.120 --> 00:05:10.839 industry influence and is basically just saying that's it. We're 66 00:05:10.879 --> 00:05:13.199 going to have signs decide this, not politics. Who we 67 00:05:13.279 --> 00:05:16.920 come out with this definitive statement on equivocally saying that 68 00:05:16.959 --> 00:05:20.199 alcohol is a carcinogen and that modern drinking is a 69 00:05:20.279 --> 00:05:23.720 risk factor for cancer. Seagal set Now, I guess what 70 00:05:23.720 --> 00:05:26.879 they want to do is they want to put some 71 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:33.959 sort of a warning label on alcohol. Doctor William Dietz, 72 00:05:34.199 --> 00:05:37.759 who's a professor at the Milken Institute School of Public 73 00:05:37.759 --> 00:05:41.600 Health at George Washington University, said Murphy is using his 74 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:43.959 position und our attention to a major health issue while 75 00:05:43.959 --> 00:05:47.720 he can the way previous surgeon generals wave flags about 76 00:05:47.720 --> 00:05:53.759 the dangers of tobacco use and obesity. Will this change 77 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:57.439 your attitude towards drinking? I suspect most of you it 78 00:05:57.480 --> 00:06:04.759 will not. They are talking about trying to get some 79 00:06:04.800 --> 00:06:11.279 sort of a warning label on alcohol. They do have 80 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:15.480 had warning labels on alcohol going back some period of time, 81 00:06:16.199 --> 00:06:20.879 warning that women who were pregnant or expecting to be 82 00:06:20.920 --> 00:06:24.759 pregnant could have a danger, So I just want to 83 00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:28.600 open it up. Were you aware of this? I'll be 84 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:34.800 honest with you. I wasn't. I really wasn't. Is it 85 00:06:34.839 --> 00:06:41.160 going to change my relationship with alcohol? Probably not, because 86 00:06:44.120 --> 00:06:47.240 it doesn't say to me you got to give it up. 87 00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:54.319 It says if you drink in some moderate form, it's 88 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:57.519 not going to substantially increase. I can give you the numbers, 89 00:06:57.519 --> 00:07:00.480 but I don't. But numbers are tough on them on radio. 90 00:07:00.920 --> 00:07:05.360 So feel free join the conversation. Six one, seven, two, five, 91 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:08.800 four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one, ten 92 00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:13.120 thirty Were you aware of this relationship? As the Surgeon 93 00:07:13.160 --> 00:07:19.560 General has outlined it? Will that change your drinking attitude? 94 00:07:19.800 --> 00:07:23.240 Now again they're saying that, yeah, and I can go 95 00:07:23.279 --> 00:07:25.360 through some of the numbers, but they're basically saying that 96 00:07:25.720 --> 00:07:32.399 instead of having a ten percent increase in contracting some 97 00:07:32.519 --> 00:07:37.120 form of these seven cancers, if you don't drink, you 98 00:07:37.240 --> 00:07:40.079 might move it up to thirteen percent or fifteen percent. 99 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:44.480 And of course, the more you drink, the more frequently 100 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:47.800 you drink, the more you drink on any given day, 101 00:07:49.759 --> 00:07:53.639 the higher the percentage has become. So should there be 102 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:56.959 a warning and were you aware of it and will 103 00:07:56.959 --> 00:08:01.240 this change your attitude? Six seven ten thirty, six seven 104 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:04.040 nine thirty. My name's Dan Ray. Let's open up these 105 00:08:04.040 --> 00:08:06.959 phone lines right after this. Very quick, and I mean it. 106 00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:09.000 This is a quick break back in about a minute 107 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:09.920 and a half. 108 00:08:10.639 --> 00:08:13.600 Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World, 109 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:18.120 Nice Side Studios on WBZ News Radio. 110 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:20.560 Yes, indeed we are in the Window World at night 111 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:23.000 side studios on a cold night here in New England. 112 00:08:23.000 --> 00:08:27.040 But what do you expect, folks? It is, well, it is. 113 00:08:27.160 --> 00:08:29.079 We're as close to the middle of January as you 114 00:08:29.079 --> 00:08:32.159 could pop. Well, I guess Thursday technically is the middle 115 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:35.679 of January. Let me go to Jamie in Worcester. Jamie, 116 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:41.720 I was not aware of this link, were you. 117 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:41.840 No. 118 00:08:42.480 --> 00:08:47.919 I work in a package store in Wista, So I 119 00:08:47.919 --> 00:08:50.360 don't think it's gonna change anything. We got our boot 120 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:53.440 call workers, you know. They they're not gonna look at 121 00:08:53.480 --> 00:08:56.360 the Waie Wolson. They gonna come in and they work 122 00:08:56.440 --> 00:09:00.799 from like all these boot collar jobs, plumbers, coppins, whatever. 123 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:03.200 They're gonna come in and grab their stuff and they 124 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:03.879 don't care. 125 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:08.639 About that, you know. Okay, So so that's your client. 126 00:09:08.759 --> 00:09:12.039 Tell will it change? Do you imbibe yourself. 127 00:09:14.600 --> 00:09:18.639 Yeah, I do. I drink light like you and I 128 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:22.519 drink I don't old palma iced teas once in a 129 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:24.919 while and then I have a couple of shots here 130 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:27.960 and there. But it's not gonna I'm not gonna change 131 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:33.159 my habits because I mean everything, it seems like everything 132 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:35.200 is bad for you. I mean, no matter what you do, 133 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:36.600 everything is bad for you. 134 00:09:36.960 --> 00:09:38.799 Yeah, I mean there is a little enjoyment at the 135 00:09:38.879 --> 00:09:40.960 end of the day having having a beer or a 136 00:09:40.960 --> 00:09:45.639 glass of wine, no question about that. Uh, I don't 137 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:47.919 know what are we supposed to do? Just just eat 138 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:49.360 eat roots and berries and. 139 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:52.720 You know, I don't know, right, you know, I mean 140 00:09:53.320 --> 00:09:55.480 everything's bad for you. I'm like, I'm sick of it. 141 00:09:55.600 --> 00:09:58.200 I'm like, I don't smoke. I never smoked a cigarette 142 00:09:58.200 --> 00:09:58.360 in my. 143 00:09:58.399 --> 00:09:59.799 Life, right they neither. 144 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:04.639 I'm fine with that never and I never. I dabbled 145 00:10:04.679 --> 00:10:07.159 a part early in my life, but I haven't done 146 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:11.519 that in years. So, like, you know, like I can't 147 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:16.039 have let me enjoy something, you know, alcohol, Let me 148 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:19.559 have a beer, you know, you know, let me have 149 00:10:20.039 --> 00:10:23.039 beer or let me have a shot, you know. I mean, 150 00:10:23.200 --> 00:10:24.919 why do I have to like sit there and go 151 00:10:25.000 --> 00:10:27.840 oh no, I can't drink this because I'm gonna be 152 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:31.559 it's gonna kill me, you know. Yeah, I already get 153 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:33.039 my doctor every day. 154 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:39.279 So no, I hear you, I hear you. I suspect 155 00:10:40.399 --> 00:10:44.399 I bet you. I bet you were going to hear 156 00:10:44.440 --> 00:10:48.759 from somebody tonight who will tell us that they were, 157 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:54.679 you know, a limited drinker, uh, and that they have 158 00:10:54.840 --> 00:10:59.399 been diagnosed and that their doctors are now telling them. Hey, look, 159 00:11:00.159 --> 00:11:03.600 the Search in General's report on smoking had a huge 160 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:10.799 impact on cigaretteses in this country. I'm not sure that 161 00:11:11.879 --> 00:11:14.159 that this will have the same impact on the use 162 00:11:14.200 --> 00:11:15.399 of alcohol. We'll see. 163 00:11:17.000 --> 00:11:19.679 Oh, I don't think it's gonna affect us. I mean 164 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:23.200 I was listening to a report, say on your station 165 00:11:23.360 --> 00:11:27.879 I'm listening to right now, and uh, the liquor stores 166 00:11:27.919 --> 00:11:30.879 were like, well, it's not gonna We don't think this 167 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:34.720 is gonna cause any issue with us, you know, yeah, 168 00:11:35.000 --> 00:11:36.879 put a label on it. People are still going to 169 00:11:36.919 --> 00:11:41.559 buy their beer, you know, cigarettes, People still buy this. 170 00:11:42.080 --> 00:11:43.399 They know it's cancer us, you know. 171 00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:47.440 Yeah. Yeah, but Dad, I've told this before. My dad 172 00:11:47.559 --> 00:11:49.720 was a heavy smoker. He was supposed to used to 173 00:11:49.759 --> 00:11:53.120 smoke a couple of packs a day. Camel unfiltered or 174 00:11:53.200 --> 00:11:58.759 lucky strikes unfiltered. And I hated cigarette smoke. And I've 175 00:11:58.840 --> 00:12:02.039 never smoked cigarettes and my life, and I'm glad, I 176 00:12:04.159 --> 00:12:08.600 you know, I just I thought it was even like 177 00:12:08.799 --> 00:12:12.519 you know, when I was dating, if the woman you 178 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:14.919 were dating, it was like kissing an ash tree. I 179 00:12:15.000 --> 00:12:16.879 remember that. I was like, no, I don't think so, 180 00:12:17.039 --> 00:12:17.360 I don't. 181 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:18.240 You know. 182 00:12:19.159 --> 00:12:21.960 I was a little I just didn't like cigarettes. I 183 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:25.320 I was. I was subjected to a lot of it 184 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:29.399 when I was a kid, and there was in those days. 185 00:12:29.840 --> 00:12:32.120 You know, you're ten years old and your dad smoking. 186 00:12:32.519 --> 00:12:35.279 You know, he was a World War Two veterans, So 187 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:35.799 I'm sure. 188 00:12:37.360 --> 00:12:43.279 Yeah, my dad smoked. And you know he quit eventually, 189 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:47.159 he would, he would. He just quit cold Turkey one 190 00:12:47.240 --> 00:12:50.759 day and I remember him walking out quen on McDonald's 191 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:54.240 with two pixes melts and stuff and like he was 192 00:12:55.039 --> 00:12:57.720 he couldn't and he went to like Russian guy that 193 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:02.159 supposedly killing the crabs on him or something like that. 194 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:05.279 I don't know, but yeah, how. 195 00:13:05.159 --> 00:13:07.879 Long did your dad? Is your dad still alive? I hope. 196 00:13:10.080 --> 00:13:11.440 He just turned eighty? 197 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:16.279 Yeah, okay, so so he's okay, he's getting he's he's 198 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:18.519 it's not like you said to me. You know, he 199 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:20.759 died when he was fifty three or something like that. 200 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:25.120 All right, Hey, no, no, Jamie, I appreciate you call. 201 00:13:27.399 --> 00:13:29.159 Have you called mefore since your first time? 202 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:29.320 Oh? 203 00:13:29.399 --> 00:13:33.200 By the way, no, I've called you before. I actually 204 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:35.399 I tried to call you today because my dog with 205 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:38.799 the psychologist. But I told you about my husky like 206 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:43.960 late light yellow night, about his oh yeah, yeah truck. 207 00:13:44.919 --> 00:13:47.440 Yes yeah, And I tried to call you, but I 208 00:13:47.519 --> 00:13:51.720 got your voicemail, so we came through that. 209 00:13:51.919 --> 00:13:54.879 But uh, give it a shot. You can stay on there. 210 00:13:55.000 --> 00:13:56.840 Rob will give you my direct number if you If 211 00:13:56.879 --> 00:14:01.279 you don't have it, okay, stay on the light, Robert 212 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:07.159 giving my direct Just stay right there, Robi, give you 213 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:09.679 the direct line. I gotta keep rolling here. We're going 214 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:13.679 to go next to Shawna in Melrose. Oh what happened? 215 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:17.480 How did what happened? There? Rob? Shawna in Melrose? Hey, Shawna? 216 00:14:17.519 --> 00:14:19.480 How are you hello? Dan? 217 00:14:19.600 --> 00:14:19.960 How are you? 218 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:21.399 Thank you for taking my call? 219 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:24.759 You're more than welcome. What do you think about this 220 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:28.559 Surgeon General's report? I was not really aware of this relationship. 221 00:14:30.159 --> 00:14:32.840 I was not aware that it was the third leading 222 00:14:32.960 --> 00:14:35.159 cause of cancer in the US. 223 00:14:35.960 --> 00:14:36.840 But I did know. 224 00:14:37.480 --> 00:14:41.000 I didn't know that it could cause cancer. I just 225 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:43.080 didn't know it was a third leading cause. 226 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:46.840 But I do have a comment I'd like to make sure. 227 00:14:47.960 --> 00:14:51.320 Okay, okay, So I just want I mean, for me, 228 00:14:51.600 --> 00:14:54.840 I don't drink at all at all. I just don't drink. 229 00:14:54.879 --> 00:14:58.399 I never did drink, and it just never interested me. 230 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:01.279 But I do want to offer some hope to the 231 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:09.519 people that that that drink exceptively. There is a medication 232 00:15:09.799 --> 00:15:18.360 called now trexone, now trexone that they can get prescribed, 233 00:15:19.039 --> 00:15:22.519 and it's it's it will help them not want to drink. 234 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:25.559 They don't want to drink when they're on it. And 235 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:30.159 it's not like what that anterfuse that makes them throw 236 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:33.480 up when they when they do drink. It's not that 237 00:15:33.679 --> 00:15:38.600 at all. It's that they just affects the pleasure center 238 00:15:38.679 --> 00:15:42.799 in the brain and it makes them really not crave alcohol. 239 00:15:42.360 --> 00:15:43.799 At all, you know. 240 00:15:44.399 --> 00:15:46.360 So they have to stay on it kind of like 241 00:15:46.519 --> 00:15:50.240 long term because if they stop doing it, they start 242 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:54.240 to crave alcohol again. But that's that's my comment. 243 00:15:55.399 --> 00:16:01.559 HM. So, so when you heard this, you thought yourself, 244 00:16:01.879 --> 00:16:05.360 I guess you're glad that you that you're not a drinker. 245 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:13.039 Yep, I am glad I'm not a drinker. I kind 246 00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:15.320 of know. I really didn't think that. I just thought, well, 247 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:18.879 I just never had any desire to be a drinker. 248 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:22.799 And that's just the way it is. That's all it is. 249 00:16:24.120 --> 00:16:26.600 All right. Well, I appreciate you, appreciate you call. Sew 250 00:16:26.720 --> 00:16:30.000 to keep listening to the night side and happy new Year, Thank. 251 00:16:29.879 --> 00:16:30.399 You very much. 252 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:32.120 Happy New Year to you. And they listen to you 253 00:16:32.279 --> 00:16:32.799 all the time. 254 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:35.440 Well, thank you. Have you called before? This is your 255 00:16:35.480 --> 00:16:35.879 first time? 256 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:38.960 No, you've falken to me before, and. 257 00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:43.200 Yes, and I'd always like to hear from first time 258 00:16:43.279 --> 00:16:45.279 calls because we can always give them a little round 259 00:16:45.320 --> 00:16:49.240 of applause. But we'll talk to you soon. Okay, thank you, 260 00:16:50.080 --> 00:16:52.039 Thanks very much. I have a great one. Good night. 261 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:52.559 Bye. 262 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:55.600 All right, let me go, let me go next. We're 263 00:16:55.600 --> 00:16:59.399 gonna try David in San Francisco's first call of twenty 264 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:02.399 twenty five. All right, David, let's have it. Let's see 265 00:17:02.399 --> 00:17:02.919 how long we go. 266 00:17:05.240 --> 00:17:10.400 Thanks, Happy New Year, Dan. You know I was brought 267 00:17:10.480 --> 00:17:15.160 up in Saint Louis and Nheiser Bush was about three 268 00:17:15.279 --> 00:17:19.119 or four blocks away from National Lead and at the time, 269 00:17:19.359 --> 00:17:24.640 National Lead had no smokes scrubbers. They were just spewing 270 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:28.079 lead straight out into the air right next to the brewery. 271 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:34.079 So my dad, he pretty much refused to drink Budweiser 272 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:36.880 or anything related to it because of that. You don't 273 00:17:36.920 --> 00:17:40.480 want to be drinking lead. Yeah, So he made his 274 00:17:40.599 --> 00:17:44.160 own beer, he made his own wine. And my mother 275 00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:47.440 was enough of your bird watcher and things like that 276 00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:52.079 that she wanted to keep things clean, you know, organic. 277 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:56.759 Rachel Carson was a big deal, and so he warned me, 278 00:17:57.960 --> 00:18:01.279 you know, about trying to eat bad food, and if 279 00:18:01.359 --> 00:18:04.720 you're gonna start drinking, don't drink Mad Dog twenty twenty 280 00:18:05.359 --> 00:18:10.119 because Mogan David twenty twenty was had additives in it. Chemicals. 281 00:18:10.680 --> 00:18:14.160 It would not only get you drunker, but they would 282 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:18.240 they would give you a higher addiction and they would 283 00:18:18.680 --> 00:18:22.359 give you seizures. And anybody that you might know that 284 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:25.880 ever got hooked on Mad Dog twenty twenty knew that 285 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:27.160 you would get that products. 286 00:18:27.400 --> 00:18:30.000 By the way, is that product still around? I have 287 00:18:30.200 --> 00:18:33.400 never heard of that one before, But is that is 288 00:18:33.480 --> 00:18:34.200 that still around? 289 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:37.319 As far as you know, Well, you've heard of Mogen 290 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:38.480 David wine, right. 291 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:44.000 I have is that what you refer to as mad Dog. Okay, 292 00:18:44.039 --> 00:18:46.240 I was unaware of the nickname. 293 00:18:47.559 --> 00:18:52.160 Yeah, MD twenty twenty is Mogan David twenty twenty. And 294 00:18:52.359 --> 00:18:54.880 it's got a it's fortified, is what they call it. 295 00:18:55.039 --> 00:18:57.599 But it's actually got chemicals in it. It'll make you. 296 00:18:59.279 --> 00:19:02.559 And so when you was talking about cancer, you know, 297 00:19:02.680 --> 00:19:07.000 it's surprising to me to hear that liquor can cause cancer. 298 00:19:07.319 --> 00:19:12.640 But when I hear about the additives. You know, ripple 299 00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:15.720 wine was big when I was a kid, and that 300 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:19.039 had additives in that Pagan pink was supposed to be 301 00:19:19.640 --> 00:19:23.880 something close to formaldehyde I think was in it. And 302 00:19:24.720 --> 00:19:29.720 so the idea of cheap liquor is a real danger. 303 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:33.599 And then what's even worse up here in California. You 304 00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:36.039 remember what three or four years ago, they had a 305 00:19:36.079 --> 00:19:40.160 big fire in Santa Rosa. Now that's about ten miles 306 00:19:40.200 --> 00:19:44.599 away from the wine growing country, and all of these 307 00:19:44.680 --> 00:19:48.119 houses got burned up. You know, the smoke and the 308 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:52.400 toxic smoke that came out of that. Burned roofs, burned houses, 309 00:19:52.799 --> 00:19:55.880 burned cars, all this sort of stuff landed in the 310 00:19:56.000 --> 00:20:00.359 wine growing country, and so their crops may be in 311 00:20:00.599 --> 00:20:03.920 jeopardy for years to come until they figure some way 312 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:08.079 to get the heavy minerals or the heavy metals out, 313 00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:09.519 or you know, some of the other. 314 00:20:09.960 --> 00:20:12.319 I don't know. I was in Napa Valley a year 315 00:20:12.440 --> 00:20:16.279 or so ago, and a lot of the wineries seemed 316 00:20:16.279 --> 00:20:17.960 to be in pretty good shape. I mean, I don't 317 00:20:17.960 --> 00:20:20.000 know what was in the ground or anything like that, 318 00:20:20.119 --> 00:20:23.799 because I was unfamiliar with the Santa Rosa fire, but 319 00:20:24.200 --> 00:20:26.400 they seem to be doing very well. So were you 320 00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:32.160 aware of the relationship before the Surgeon General report? I 321 00:20:32.359 --> 00:20:33.559 was not aware, To be honest with. 322 00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:35.240 You, no, I wasn't. 323 00:20:35.359 --> 00:20:37.720 But it does make sense if it has to do 324 00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:44.799 with either additives or unregistered chemicals. There are certain of 325 00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:48.759 these liquors that will add things to get you addicted 326 00:20:48.839 --> 00:20:53.480 in a heavier way. And that's the Mad Dog twenty 327 00:20:53.559 --> 00:20:54.480 twenty and the Ripple. 328 00:20:54.680 --> 00:20:58.880 Yeah. Well again, as they say, yeah, I did not 329 00:20:59.039 --> 00:21:01.559 know what, but it didn't know it by that name. 330 00:21:02.079 --> 00:21:05.599 Interesting observations. David. We had a great call. Hopefully this 331 00:21:05.680 --> 00:21:07.240 will be the first of many. Thank you much. 332 00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:10.119 Take care you two. 333 00:21:11.599 --> 00:21:13.759 First time David didn't end up in the water. That's 334 00:21:13.799 --> 00:21:17.680 pretty good. Uh, let's keep rolling. He got the news 335 00:21:17.720 --> 00:21:19.880 coming up six. I got some open line six one, 336 00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:26.039 seven thirty, triple eight thirty. Uh, this is pretty serious stuff, 337 00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:29.480 Surgeon General says. This is more than just pregnant women, 338 00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:36.799 This is people of all ages. The more you drink, 339 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:41.160 the more likely that you're going to be potentially exposed 340 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:43.920 to seven cancers. Now that doesn't mean that everyone who 341 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:47.640 drinks gets those cancers. It doesn't mean that everyone who 342 00:21:47.720 --> 00:21:52.240 doesn't drink doesn't get those cancers. But I was unaware 343 00:21:52.279 --> 00:21:55.599 of this, and you got to take it seriously when 344 00:21:55.640 --> 00:21:58.039 the Surgeon General comes out of it, because I assume 345 00:21:58.079 --> 00:22:01.599 there's there is supporting and I've read some of the reports. 346 00:22:01.640 --> 00:22:04.240 They did some tests on mice and this is how 347 00:22:04.279 --> 00:22:07.559 they came to the conclusions. But love to hear from you. 348 00:22:07.960 --> 00:22:11.119 I got a couple of open lines one at six 349 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:14.000 one seven, two, five four ten thirty and one at 350 00:22:14.039 --> 00:22:17.839 six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty. Join the conversation. 351 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:19.119 Be right back on Nightside. 352 00:22:20.519 --> 00:22:24.759 You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's 353 00:22:24.839 --> 00:22:25.400 news radio. 354 00:22:27.279 --> 00:22:30.960 So we're talking about Surgeon General's report and it's suggesting 355 00:22:31.039 --> 00:22:35.119 that there is a direct link between seven types of 356 00:22:35.240 --> 00:22:40.599 cancer and the use of alcohol and alcohol covering both beer. 357 00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:47.839 Well all, why spirits beer and wine? Interesting? Interesting, I 358 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:50.400 was unaware of it. Let's go to Barry and framing him. 359 00:22:50.920 --> 00:22:53.480 So far, no one has said to me, Yeah, they 360 00:22:53.519 --> 00:22:56.240 were aware of this before this report. Hi, Barry, how 361 00:22:56.279 --> 00:22:57.400 are you good? 362 00:22:57.559 --> 00:22:57.799 Damn? 363 00:22:57.960 --> 00:22:58.240 Thank you. 364 00:22:58.799 --> 00:23:02.319 So I'm a little bit confused about this, and I 365 00:23:02.400 --> 00:23:05.079 don't doubt what they're saying. But I had been under 366 00:23:05.079 --> 00:23:09.920 the impression that there were some cardiovascular benefits to low 367 00:23:10.079 --> 00:23:14.279 alcohol consumption. Yes, and I think that's still valid. I 368 00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:18.920 just looked up online from the NIH the National Library 369 00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:23.319 of Medicine had a paper from twenty nineteen that went 370 00:23:23.440 --> 00:23:29.599 through all these varied studies showing the cardiovascular benefits of 371 00:23:29.759 --> 00:23:31.279 low consumption of alcohol. 372 00:23:32.039 --> 00:23:37.359 Yes, to your heart and also lessen the chances of 373 00:23:37.400 --> 00:23:38.599 a heart attack or a stroke. 374 00:23:38.880 --> 00:23:40.119 Yeah, exactly. 375 00:23:40.319 --> 00:23:44.720 So is this one of the things. Well, we can 376 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:48.240 solve one problem, but perhaps enhance another one. 377 00:23:49.079 --> 00:23:53.480 So well, First of all, it's interesting that no one 378 00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:56.960 else had little so far, no one else had been 379 00:23:57.000 --> 00:24:01.079 aware of this because apparently it had been bandied about 380 00:24:01.400 --> 00:24:05.240 a little bit. But what the Surgeon General is saying 381 00:24:05.400 --> 00:24:09.119 is that alcohol is a well established preventable cause of cancer, 382 00:24:09.200 --> 00:24:11.920 responsible about one hundred thousand cases of cancer and twenty 383 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:17.680 thousand cancer deaths annually, greater than the thirteen thousand, five 384 00:24:17.799 --> 00:24:23.279 hundred alcohol associated traffic crash fatalities. Interesting, he goes on 385 00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:25.480 to say, yet the majority of Americans are unaware of this, 386 00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:28.799 which is what my audience is confirming for us tonight. 387 00:24:29.960 --> 00:24:36.240 They went on and this to list the cancers, which 388 00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:44.720 are breast cancer, coorectum, esophagus, liver, mouth, oral cancer, throat, 389 00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:46.640 and voice box. 390 00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:54.079 I wonder what other issues people have that developed these cancers? 391 00:24:54.720 --> 00:24:58.039 Is that just the alcohol itself? And I would assume 392 00:24:58.160 --> 00:25:02.000 the amount that you consume would have a significant yes 393 00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:04.440 effect of this. So I don't think it's all is 394 00:25:04.599 --> 00:25:09.400 cut and dried, because I could basically say, you breathe 395 00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:12.119 the ear, how much cancer do you get from the 396 00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:12.920 air we brieve? 397 00:25:13.079 --> 00:25:14.519 Well, let me give you any Let me give you 398 00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:18.079 some statistics here. Statistics are tough on radio, but let's 399 00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:21.440 let's give it a shot. Okay. It said for men, 400 00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:27.039 the absolute risk of developing an alcohol related cancer increases 401 00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:32.000