Speaker 1: It's nice eyes.
Speaker 2: Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1: Hour and before coming up here on a Tuesday night,
Speaker 1: excuse me, a little bit of a frog in my throat.
Speaker 1: That's better. I think doing a lot of talking to night.
Speaker 1: Everybody helped me out here, if you will. So. The
Speaker 1: US Surgeon General has issued a report earlier this month.
Speaker 1: Just getting around to talk about it. There's been a
Speaker 1: lot going on, and the US Surgeon General, whose name
Speaker 1: is doctor Vivek Murphy. Murphy is how his name is pronounced,
Speaker 1: released a new Surgeon's General advisory on alcohol and cancer risk,
Speaker 1: outlining a direct link between alcohol consumption and increased cancer risks.
Speaker 1: Alcohol consumption is the third leading the third leading preventable
Speaker 1: of cancer in the United States after tobacco and obesity,
Speaker 1: increasing risk for at least seven types of cancer. While
Speaker 1: scientific evidence for this connection has been growing over the
Speaker 1: last forty years, less than half of Americans recognize it
Speaker 1: as a risk factor. Reading now from a press release
Speaker 1: from the US Department of Health and Human Services, the
Speaker 1: Surgeon General's advisory includes a recommendation to increase awareness to
Speaker 1: help minimize alcohol related cancer causes and deaths. I got
Speaker 1: to be honest with you. I'm fairly smart. I did not.
Speaker 1: I mean I thought about the risk of alcohol. And again,
Speaker 1: this is any sort of alcohol. It could be beer,
Speaker 1: it could be wine, it could be spirits, hard liquor.
Speaker 1: I have thought about that is I think most of
Speaker 1: us have thought about that. And you think about that
Speaker 1: primarily in Okay, I got to watch out when I'm driving.
Speaker 1: If I drive while I'm drunk, I can have big
Speaker 1: problems that I can cause a lot of problems for
Speaker 1: other people. So that's one thing you want to avoid.
Speaker 1: I think most of us feel that way. Again, I
Speaker 1: think that over time, during my lifetime, there's been an
Speaker 1: adjustment made by people towards how much they drink and
Speaker 1: under what circumstances. There have been a lot of, you know,
Speaker 1: public service announcements friends don't let friends drive drive drunk,
Speaker 1: and the public service announcements that you know, just you know,
Speaker 1: you take the keys away from your friends if you're
Speaker 1: a real friend. Okay, But cancer risk, I don't think
Speaker 1: I was really thinking of that, and I don't know
Speaker 1: that this shocks me either, says The direct link between
Speaker 1: alcohol consumption and cancer risk is well established for at
Speaker 1: least seven types of cancer, including cancers of the breast, colorectum, esophagus, liver, mouth, throat,
Speaker 1: and voice box, regardless of the type of alcohol meaning beer, wine,
Speaker 1: or spirits that's consumed for breast cancer specifically, this according
Speaker 1: this is breast cancer. Sixteen point four percent of total
Speaker 1: breast cancer cases are attributable to alcohol consumption. In the US.
Speaker 1: There are about one hundred thousand alcohol related cancer cases
Speaker 1: and twenty thousand alcohol related cancer deaths annually. I was
Speaker 1: really not aware of this, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I'm somebody who does enjoy cores, light, and I enjoy
Speaker 1: red wine. Those are my drinks of choice. This is
Speaker 1: a USA Today article in which the Surgeon General is quoted.
Speaker 1: It's outlining a direct link, a direct link between drinking
Speaker 1: alcohol and increased risk of developing seven types of cancel
Speaker 1: the types I just read. Now, we're about six days
Speaker 1: away from a change of government. It will be interesting
Speaker 1: if Health and Human Services under Robert F. Kennedy Junior
Speaker 1: emphasizes this as much as the current Surgeon General does.
Speaker 1: So I just want to open it up. I guess
Speaker 1: there's a in the article. There's a doctor Michael Siegel
Speaker 1: of Tufts Universities of Medicine so he's a local guy,
Speaker 1: he says. My sense is that he probably got fed
Speaker 1: up and he basically has had enough of the alcohol
Speaker 1: industry influence and is basically just saying that's it. We're
Speaker 1: going to have signs decide this, not politics. Who we
Speaker 1: come out with this definitive statement on equivocally saying that
Speaker 1: alcohol is a carcinogen and that modern drinking is a
Speaker 1: risk factor for cancer. Seagal set Now, I guess what
Speaker 1: they want to do is they want to put some
Speaker 1: sort of a warning label on alcohol. Doctor William Dietz,
Speaker 1: who's a professor at the Milken Institute School of Public
Speaker 1: Health at George Washington University, said Murphy is using his
Speaker 1: position und our attention to a major health issue while
Speaker 1: he can the way previous surgeon generals wave flags about
Speaker 1: the dangers of tobacco use and obesity. Will this change
Speaker 1: your attitude towards drinking? I suspect most of you it
Speaker 1: will not. They are talking about trying to get some
Speaker 1: sort of a warning label on alcohol. They do have
Speaker 1: had warning labels on alcohol going back some period of time,
Speaker 1: warning that women who were pregnant or expecting to be
Speaker 1: pregnant could have a danger, So I just want to
Speaker 1: open it up. Were you aware of this? I'll be
Speaker 1: honest with you. I wasn't. I really wasn't. Is it
Speaker 1: going to change my relationship with alcohol? Probably not, because
Speaker 1: it doesn't say to me you got to give it up.
Speaker 1: It says if you drink in some moderate form, it's
Speaker 1: not going to substantially increase. I can give you the numbers,
Speaker 1: but I don't. But numbers are tough on them on radio.
Speaker 1: So feel free join the conversation. Six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 1: four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one, ten
Speaker 1: thirty Were you aware of this relationship? As the Surgeon
Speaker 1: General has outlined it? Will that change your drinking attitude?
Speaker 1: Now again they're saying that, yeah, and I can go
Speaker 1: through some of the numbers, but they're basically saying that
Speaker 1: instead of having a ten percent increase in contracting some
Speaker 1: form of these seven cancers, if you don't drink, you
Speaker 1: might move it up to thirteen percent or fifteen percent.
Speaker 1: And of course, the more you drink, the more frequently
Speaker 1: you drink, the more you drink on any given day,
Speaker 1: the higher the percentage has become. So should there be
Speaker 1: a warning and were you aware of it and will
Speaker 1: this change your attitude? Six seven ten thirty, six seven
Speaker 1: nine thirty. My name's Dan Ray. Let's open up these
Speaker 1: phone lines right after this. Very quick, and I mean it.
Speaker 1: This is a quick break back in about a minute
Speaker 1: and a half.
Speaker 2: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World,
Speaker 2: Nice Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed we are in the Window World at night
Speaker 1: side studios on a cold night here in New England.
Speaker 1: But what do you expect, folks? It is, well, it is.
Speaker 1: We're as close to the middle of January as you
Speaker 1: could pop. Well, I guess Thursday technically is the middle
Speaker 1: of January. Let me go to Jamie in Worcester. Jamie,
Speaker 1: I was not aware of this link, were you.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: I work in a package store in Wista, So I
Speaker 3: don't think it's gonna change anything. We got our boot
Speaker 3: call workers, you know. They they're not gonna look at
Speaker 3: the Waie Wolson. They gonna come in and they work
Speaker 3: from like all these boot collar jobs, plumbers, coppins, whatever.
Speaker 3: They're gonna come in and grab their stuff and they
Speaker 3: don't care.
Speaker 1: About that, you know. Okay, So so that's your client.
Speaker 1: Tell will it change? Do you imbibe yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. I drink light like you and I
Speaker 3: drink I don't old palma iced teas once in a
Speaker 3: while and then I have a couple of shots here
Speaker 3: and there. But it's not gonna I'm not gonna change
Speaker 3: my habits because I mean everything, it seems like everything
Speaker 3: is bad for you. I mean, no matter what you do,
Speaker 3: everything is bad for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there is a little enjoyment at the
Speaker 1: end of the day having having a beer or a
Speaker 1: glass of wine, no question about that. Uh, I don't
Speaker 1: know what are we supposed to do? Just just eat
Speaker 1: eat roots and berries and.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know, right, you know, I mean
Speaker 3: everything's bad for you. I'm like, I'm sick of it.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't smoke. I never smoked a cigarette
Speaker 3: in my.
Speaker 1: Life, right they neither.
Speaker 3: I'm fine with that never and I never. I dabbled
Speaker 3: a part early in my life, but I haven't done
Speaker 3: that in years. So, like, you know, like I can't
Speaker 3: have let me enjoy something, you know, alcohol, Let me
Speaker 3: have a beer, you know, you know, let me have
Speaker 3: beer or let me have a shot, you know. I mean,
Speaker 3: why do I have to like sit there and go
Speaker 3: oh no, I can't drink this because I'm gonna be
Speaker 3: it's gonna kill me, you know. Yeah, I already get
Speaker 3: my doctor every day.
Speaker 1: So no, I hear you, I hear you. I suspect
Speaker 1: I bet you. I bet you were going to hear
Speaker 1: from somebody tonight who will tell us that they were,
Speaker 1: you know, a limited drinker, uh, and that they have
Speaker 1: been diagnosed and that their doctors are now telling them. Hey, look,
Speaker 1: the Search in General's report on smoking had a huge
Speaker 1: impact on cigaretteses in this country. I'm not sure that
Speaker 1: that this will have the same impact on the use
Speaker 1: of alcohol. We'll see.
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't think it's gonna affect us. I mean
Speaker 3: I was listening to a report, say on your station
Speaker 3: I'm listening to right now, and uh, the liquor stores
Speaker 3: were like, well, it's not gonna We don't think this
Speaker 3: is gonna cause any issue with us, you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: put a label on it. People are still going to
Speaker 3: buy their beer, you know, cigarettes, People still buy this.
Speaker 3: They know it's cancer us, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but Dad, I've told this before. My dad
Speaker 1: was a heavy smoker. He was supposed to used to
Speaker 1: smoke a couple of packs a day. Camel unfiltered or
Speaker 1: lucky strikes unfiltered. And I hated cigarette smoke. And I've
Speaker 1: never smoked cigarettes and my life, and I'm glad, I
Speaker 1: you know, I just I thought it was even like
Speaker 1: you know, when I was dating, if the woman you
Speaker 1: were dating, it was like kissing an ash tree. I
Speaker 1: remember that. I was like, no, I don't think so,
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: I was a little I just didn't like cigarettes. I
Speaker 1: I was. I was subjected to a lot of it
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, and there was in those days.
Speaker 1: You know, you're ten years old and your dad smoking.
Speaker 1: You know, he was a World War Two veterans, So
Speaker 1: I'm sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my dad smoked. And you know he quit eventually,
Speaker 3: he would, he would. He just quit cold Turkey one
Speaker 3: day and I remember him walking out quen on McDonald's
Speaker 3: with two pixes melts and stuff and like he was
Speaker 3: he couldn't and he went to like Russian guy that
Speaker 3: supposedly killing the crabs on him or something like that.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but yeah, how.
Speaker 1: Long did your dad? Is your dad still alive? I hope.
Speaker 3: He just turned eighty?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so so he's okay, he's getting he's he's
Speaker 1: it's not like you said to me. You know, he
Speaker 1: died when he was fifty three or something like that.
Speaker 1: All right, Hey, no, no, Jamie, I appreciate you call.
Speaker 1: Have you called mefore since your first time?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: By the way, no, I've called you before. I actually
Speaker 3: I tried to call you today because my dog with
Speaker 3: the psychologist. But I told you about my husky like
Speaker 3: late light yellow night, about his oh yeah, yeah truck.
Speaker 3: Yes yeah, And I tried to call you, but I
Speaker 3: got your voicemail, so we came through that.
Speaker 1: But uh, give it a shot. You can stay on there.
Speaker 1: Rob will give you my direct number if you If
Speaker 1: you don't have it, okay, stay on the light, Robert
Speaker 1: giving my direct Just stay right there, Robi, give you
Speaker 1: the direct line. I gotta keep rolling here. We're going
Speaker 1: to go next to Shawna in Melrose. Oh what happened?
Speaker 1: How did what happened? There? Rob? Shawna in Melrose? Hey, Shawna?
Speaker 1: How are you hello? Dan?
Speaker 3: How are you?
Speaker 5: Thank you for taking my call?
Speaker 1: You're more than welcome. What do you think about this
Speaker 1: Surgeon General's report? I was not really aware of this relationship.
Speaker 5: I was not aware that it was the third leading
Speaker 5: cause of cancer in the US.
Speaker 4: But I did know.
Speaker 5: I didn't know that it could cause cancer. I just
Speaker 5: didn't know it was a third leading cause.
Speaker 6: But I do have a comment I'd like to make sure.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, So I just want I mean, for me,
Speaker 5: I don't drink at all at all. I just don't drink.
Speaker 5: I never did drink, and it just never interested me.
Speaker 5: But I do want to offer some hope to the
Speaker 5: people that that that drink exceptively. There is a medication
Speaker 5: called now trexone, now trexone that they can get prescribed,
Speaker 5: and it's it's it will help them not want to drink.
Speaker 5: They don't want to drink when they're on it. And
Speaker 5: it's not like what that anterfuse that makes them throw
Speaker 5: up when they when they do drink. It's not that
Speaker 5: at all. It's that they just affects the pleasure center
Speaker 5: in the brain and it makes them really not crave alcohol.
Speaker 4: At all, you know.
Speaker 5: So they have to stay on it kind of like
Speaker 5: long term because if they stop doing it, they start
Speaker 5: to crave alcohol again. But that's that's my comment.
Speaker 1: HM. So, so when you heard this, you thought yourself,
Speaker 1: I guess you're glad that you that you're not a drinker.
Speaker 5: Yep, I am glad I'm not a drinker. I kind
Speaker 5: of know. I really didn't think that. I just thought, well,
Speaker 5: I just never had any desire to be a drinker.
Speaker 5: And that's just the way it is. That's all it is.
Speaker 1: All right. Well, I appreciate you, appreciate you call. Sew
Speaker 1: to keep listening to the night side and happy new Year, Thank.
Speaker 4: You very much.
Speaker 5: Happy New Year to you. And they listen to you
Speaker 5: all the time.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you. Have you called before? This is your
Speaker 1: first time?
Speaker 5: No, you've falken to me before, and.
Speaker 1: Yes, and I'd always like to hear from first time
Speaker 1: calls because we can always give them a little round
Speaker 1: of applause. But we'll talk to you soon. Okay, thank you,
Speaker 1: Thanks very much. I have a great one. Good night.
Speaker 5: Bye.
Speaker 1: All right, let me go, let me go next. We're
Speaker 1: gonna try David in San Francisco's first call of twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five. All right, David, let's have it. Let's see
Speaker 1: how long we go.
Speaker 4: Thanks, Happy New Year, Dan. You know I was brought
Speaker 4: up in Saint Louis and Nheiser Bush was about three
Speaker 4: or four blocks away from National Lead and at the time,
Speaker 4: National Lead had no smokes scrubbers. They were just spewing
Speaker 4: lead straight out into the air right next to the brewery.
Speaker 4: So my dad, he pretty much refused to drink Budweiser
Speaker 4: or anything related to it because of that. You don't
Speaker 4: want to be drinking lead. Yeah, So he made his
Speaker 4: own beer, he made his own wine. And my mother
Speaker 4: was enough of your bird watcher and things like that
Speaker 4: that she wanted to keep things clean, you know, organic.
Speaker 4: Rachel Carson was a big deal, and so he warned me,
Speaker 4: you know, about trying to eat bad food, and if
Speaker 4: you're gonna start drinking, don't drink Mad Dog twenty twenty
Speaker 4: because Mogan David twenty twenty was had additives in it. Chemicals.
Speaker 4: It would not only get you drunker, but they would
Speaker 4: they would give you a higher addiction and they would
Speaker 4: give you seizures. And anybody that you might know that
Speaker 4: ever got hooked on Mad Dog twenty twenty knew that
Speaker 4: you would get that products.
Speaker 1: By the way, is that product still around? I have
Speaker 1: never heard of that one before, But is that is
Speaker 1: that still around?
Speaker 4: As far as you know, Well, you've heard of Mogen
Speaker 4: David wine, right.
Speaker 1: I have is that what you refer to as mad Dog. Okay,
Speaker 1: I was unaware of the nickname.
Speaker 4: Yeah, MD twenty twenty is Mogan David twenty twenty. And
Speaker 4: it's got a it's fortified, is what they call it.
Speaker 4: But it's actually got chemicals in it. It'll make you.
Speaker 4: And so when you was talking about cancer, you know,
Speaker 4: it's surprising to me to hear that liquor can cause cancer.
Speaker 4: But when I hear about the additives. You know, ripple
Speaker 4: wine was big when I was a kid, and that
Speaker 4: had additives in that Pagan pink was supposed to be
Speaker 4: something close to formaldehyde I think was in it. And
Speaker 4: so the idea of cheap liquor is a real danger.
Speaker 4: And then what's even worse up here in California. You
Speaker 4: remember what three or four years ago, they had a
Speaker 4: big fire in Santa Rosa. Now that's about ten miles
Speaker 4: away from the wine growing country, and all of these
Speaker 4: houses got burned up. You know, the smoke and the
Speaker 4: toxic smoke that came out of that. Burned roofs, burned houses,
Speaker 4: burned cars, all this sort of stuff landed in the
Speaker 4: wine growing country, and so their crops may be in
Speaker 4: jeopardy for years to come until they figure some way
Speaker 4: to get the heavy minerals or the heavy metals out,
Speaker 4: or you know, some of the other.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was in Napa Valley a year
Speaker 1: or so ago, and a lot of the wineries seemed
Speaker 1: to be in pretty good shape. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know what was in the ground or anything like that,
Speaker 1: because I was unfamiliar with the Santa Rosa fire, but
Speaker 1: they seem to be doing very well. So were you
Speaker 1: aware of the relationship before the Surgeon General report? I
Speaker 1: was not aware, To be honest with.
Speaker 7: You, no, I wasn't.
Speaker 4: But it does make sense if it has to do
Speaker 4: with either additives or unregistered chemicals. There are certain of
Speaker 4: these liquors that will add things to get you addicted
Speaker 4: in a heavier way. And that's the Mad Dog twenty
Speaker 4: twenty and the Ripple.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well again, as they say, yeah, I did not
Speaker 1: know what, but it didn't know it by that name.
Speaker 1: Interesting observations. David. We had a great call. Hopefully this
Speaker 1: will be the first of many. Thank you much.
Speaker 4: Take care you two.
Speaker 1: First time David didn't end up in the water. That's
Speaker 1: pretty good. Uh, let's keep rolling. He got the news
Speaker 1: coming up six. I got some open line six one,
Speaker 1: seven thirty, triple eight thirty. Uh, this is pretty serious stuff,
Speaker 1: Surgeon General says. This is more than just pregnant women,
Speaker 1: This is people of all ages. The more you drink,
Speaker 1: the more likely that you're going to be potentially exposed
Speaker 1: to seven cancers. Now that doesn't mean that everyone who
Speaker 1: drinks gets those cancers. It doesn't mean that everyone who
Speaker 1: doesn't drink doesn't get those cancers. But I was unaware
Speaker 1: of this, and you got to take it seriously when
Speaker 1: the Surgeon General comes out of it, because I assume
Speaker 1: there's there is supporting and I've read some of the reports.
Speaker 1: They did some tests on mice and this is how
Speaker 1: they came to the conclusions. But love to hear from you.
Speaker 1: I got a couple of open lines one at six
Speaker 1: one seven, two, five four ten thirty and one at
Speaker 1: six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty. Join the conversation.
Speaker 1: Be right back on Nightside.
Speaker 2: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's
Speaker 2: news radio.
Speaker 1: So we're talking about Surgeon General's report and it's suggesting
Speaker 1: that there is a direct link between seven types of
Speaker 1: cancer and the use of alcohol and alcohol covering both beer.
Speaker 1: Well all, why spirits beer and wine? Interesting? Interesting, I
Speaker 1: was unaware of it. Let's go to Barry and framing him.
Speaker 1: So far, no one has said to me, Yeah, they
Speaker 1: were aware of this before this report. Hi, Barry, how
Speaker 1: are you good?
Speaker 7: Damn?
Speaker 8: Thank you.
Speaker 7: So I'm a little bit confused about this, and I
Speaker 7: don't doubt what they're saying. But I had been under
Speaker 7: the impression that there were some cardiovascular benefits to low
Speaker 7: alcohol consumption. Yes, and I think that's still valid. I
Speaker 7: just looked up online from the NIH the National Library
Speaker 7: of Medicine had a paper from twenty nineteen that went
Speaker 7: through all these varied studies showing the cardiovascular benefits of
Speaker 7: low consumption of alcohol.
Speaker 1: Yes, to your heart and also lessen the chances of
Speaker 1: a heart attack or a stroke.
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 7: So is this one of the things. Well, we can
Speaker 7: solve one problem, but perhaps enhance another one.
Speaker 1: So well, First of all, it's interesting that no one
Speaker 1: else had little so far, no one else had been
Speaker 1: aware of this because apparently it had been bandied about
Speaker 1: a little bit. But what the Surgeon General is saying
Speaker 1: is that alcohol is a well established preventable cause of cancer,
Speaker 1: responsible about one hundred thousand cases of cancer and twenty
Speaker 1: thousand cancer deaths annually, greater than the thirteen thousand, five
Speaker 1: hundred alcohol associated traffic crash fatalities. Interesting, he goes on
Speaker 1: to say, yet the majority of Americans are unaware of this,
Speaker 1: which is what my audience is confirming for us tonight.
Speaker 1: They went on and this to list the cancers, which
Speaker 1: are breast cancer, coorectum, esophagus, liver, mouth, oral cancer, throat,
Speaker 1: and voice box.
Speaker 7: I wonder what other issues people have that developed these cancers?
Speaker 7: Is that just the alcohol itself? And I would assume
Speaker 7: the amount that you consume would have a significant yes
Speaker 7: effect of this. So I don't think it's all is
Speaker 7: cut and dried, because I could basically say, you breathe
Speaker 7: the ear, how much cancer do you get from the
Speaker 7: air we brieve?
Speaker 1: Well, let me give you any Let me give you
Speaker 1: some statistics here. Statistics are tough on radio, but let's
Speaker 1: let's give it a shot. Okay. It said for men,
Speaker 1: the absolute risk of developing an alcohol related cancer increases
Speaker 1: from about ten percent ten out of every one hundred
Speaker 1: individuals for those who consume less than one drink a
Speaker 1: week to eleven point four percent if you have a
Speaker 1: drink every day, and it rises to thirteen percent if
Speaker 1: you have two drinks a day on average. I don't
Speaker 1: know how many people have two drinks a day, but
Speaker 1: I guess you could. So you're in your average, your
Speaker 1: your I guess, the chances that you're that you could
Speaker 1: develop one of these forms of cancer goes from ten percent.
Speaker 1: So if you don't drink at all, you can't your
Speaker 1: chance of getting one of these cancers is ten percent.
Speaker 1: If you do one drink a week, it goes up
Speaker 1: one point four percent to eleven point four percent, so
Speaker 1: it goes up incrementally. Now, obviously there are other issues
Speaker 1: that are related. I mean clearly, you know liver cancer
Speaker 1: is one that you've always thought about it.
Speaker 7: So I bring up the question if in doing this
Speaker 7: a comparison like this, so if one looked at cardiovascular disease,
Speaker 7: what is the percentage of people that develop cardiovascular disease
Speaker 7: that don't have any alcohol versus someone that has a
Speaker 7: drink a week.
Speaker 1: I don't have those that statistics, however, from this article
Speaker 1: that I have in front of me, which is out
Speaker 1: of the New York Times, let me read this to
Speaker 1: you because it's right on point. Most recently, a scientific
Speaker 1: review of the research on moderate drinking, carried out under
Speaker 1: the auspices of the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine,
Speaker 1: was commissioned by Congress. That analysis found a link between
Speaker 1: alcohol consumption and a slight increase in breast cancer, but
Speaker 1: no clear link to the other cancers. The report also
Speaker 1: revived the theory that moderate drinking, your point, is linked
Speaker 1: to fewer heart attack and stroke debts and fewer debts
Speaker 1: overall compared with never drinking. So then you have the
Speaker 1: World Health Organization which says the World Health Organization says
Speaker 1: there's no safe limit for alcohol consumption. So you got
Speaker 1: these conflicting And here's the thing that's really interesting, at
Speaker 1: least for me. It says to date, only South Korea
Speaker 1: has a label warning about liver cancer, though manufacturers can
Speaker 1: choose alternative labels that don't mention cancer. Ireland, the home
Speaker 1: of my forebears who have been known to have a
Speaker 1: drink or two, is currently slated to introduce labels that
Speaker 1: say there is a direct link between alcohol and fatal
Speaker 1: cancers in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 7: So the bottom line is it's the same problem with
Speaker 7: Basically everything depends on where to get your information from
Speaker 7: as to which is valid.
Speaker 1: Well, it is, But when the Surgeon General of the
Speaker 1: United States of America speaks, you got to listen to it. Okay,
Speaker 1: right now, you don't have to agree with it. We've
Speaker 1: had labels on bottles and cans of alcoholic beverages about
Speaker 1: drinking while pregnant and before driving and operating other discinity
Speaker 1: for a long time. But they're saying that they may
Speaker 1: now put a label on you know, beer and wine
Speaker 1: and spirits.
Speaker 7: Well, I hate to make this analogy, but when you
Speaker 7: talk about the surians in general, well then I can
Speaker 7: look at the surgeon General of Florida who was against
Speaker 7: the COVID vaccine masking. So yeah, you take it for
Speaker 7: what it's worth.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, there were there were some people around the country, Uh,
Speaker 1: medical people. There's never unanimity within the medical community. I
Speaker 1: don't think, I mean, maybe on some things.
Speaker 7: But uh yeah, the bottom is I think that I mean,
Speaker 7: there's just my opinion. I think that it's important to
Speaker 7: know how much someone drinks as to whether there's a
Speaker 7: benefit or a detriment to it.
Speaker 1: Of course, there's no question about that. I think I
Speaker 1: think you're I don't want to accuse you of stating
Speaker 1: the obvious, but yeah, I think you're absolutely right. I mean,
Speaker 1: if if you're pounding down seven or eight drinks at night,
Speaker 1: if you have to make I think it's a yeah,
Speaker 1: it's I think it's affecting you. Wait, that problem is
Speaker 1: adversely infecting your cardiovascular system. But again we've always learned,
Speaker 1: you know, a glass of red wine. I'm a red
Speaker 1: wine and a course like guy. So I think I'm okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so, Okay, thank you, Thank you very much, Barry,
Speaker 1: appreciate you taking the time. Happy New Year. Let me go,
Speaker 1: Let me go next to Penny. Isn't low Penny. I'm
Speaker 1: going to get you in here before the break? Go ahead, Penny, Hello, Hi,
Speaker 1: how are you? Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Penny?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, what's up? Welcome to night saga? Right ahead?
Speaker 1: What's your thought on this?
Speaker 6: So it's not surprising to me. So for the last
Speaker 6: seven to ten years as a gen xer, as people
Speaker 6: are getting cancer younger and younger. I have quite a
Speaker 6: few friends who have had cancer and they're oncologists has
Speaker 6: had them stop drinking. So alcohol, and probably people don't
Speaker 6: know this. So alcohol causes inflammation in your body. It
Speaker 6: causes joint pain, it could exacerbate immuno suppress of disease.
Speaker 6: And when you have constant chronic inflammation in your body,
Speaker 6: you know, they're finding a lot of correlations between your
Speaker 6: gut health.
Speaker 4: This is why.
Speaker 6: It affects the lining of the esophagus, the liver, the gut,
Speaker 6: bacteria in your stomach. So chronic inflammation leads to disease,
Speaker 6: which leads to cancer. So I had an ex who
Speaker 6: is alcoholic. He actually had an esophageal rupture. You know,
Speaker 6: he had liver disease which would turn into liver cancer eventually.
Speaker 6: But the oncologists are telling people to stop drinking who
Speaker 6: have had cancer.
Speaker 1: Interesting, do you sound to me like you may have
Speaker 1: a And if if I'm making an assumption that's wrong here,
Speaker 1: please tell me. Do you have a medical background?
Speaker 6: Funny enough, I am a veterinary technician that does anesthesia.
Speaker 1: So okay, well, this that's what look iderstand. That's a
Speaker 1: medical background, and thank you for what you do as
Speaker 1: a veterinarian. You said that you had a former was
Speaker 1: it a boyfriend? That that so that you you have
Speaker 1: seen this up close and personal.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, okay, and most of my friends, unfortunately have
Speaker 6: had breast cancer. I've had two friends that have breast cancer.
Speaker 6: They have stopped drinking. So between him my friends who
Speaker 6: have gotten cancer, I have also stopped drinking alcohol.
Speaker 1: Is also let me ask you, I just when people
Speaker 1: throw around gen X and stuff like that, it always
Speaker 1: confuses me. How old are you?
Speaker 6: If I could ask, I am forty seven?
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're forty seven? And how long ago did
Speaker 1: you stop drinking?
Speaker 6: About ten years ago?
Speaker 1: That's that's a significant period of time. Do you feel
Speaker 1: that by stops and I suspect you were not a
Speaker 1: big drinker. I suspect that, you know, you probably did
Speaker 1: things in moderation. Do you feel better as a result?
Speaker 1: Has it? Has it made you absolutely better? Have been
Speaker 1: more energy? Because that's what a lot of people say.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Absolutely, And one of those reasons is because alcohol
Speaker 6: also turns directly to sugar, which is carbohydrates, the sugar
Speaker 6: you know, up and down is kind of what wakes
Speaker 6: people up at night after drinking.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I was on a very low carb diet, which also
Speaker 6: had me stopping alcohol so that I could lose weight.
Speaker 6: And it really lowered all the inflammation in my body
Speaker 6: and a lot of the issues that I was health
Speaker 6: issues that I was having went away. So you a
Speaker 6: source of chronic inflammation, you know, good for you.
Speaker 1: And you were aware of this before the surge of
Speaker 1: General's report, Yes, and.
Speaker 6: I am absolutely not surprised. And you know, medicine, you know,
Speaker 6: as the years go by, we learn things, we do studies,
Speaker 6: we learn things. Unfortunately, we're learning that people are getting
Speaker 6: cancer at younger ages, especially this whole gen X generation
Speaker 6: has the most cancer at a younger age than any
Speaker 6: of the generations. And you know, they're trying to figure
Speaker 6: out why why that's happening.
Speaker 1: Are their theories that you might share with us or.
Speaker 6: No, I've you know, I haven't researched too much into that. Okay, ye,
Speaker 6: you know, seeing all my friends getting cancer at a
Speaker 6: very very you know what I consider young age.
Speaker 1: Yep, that is a young age.
Speaker 6: And it is scary, you know. So I think they're
Speaker 6: trying to figure all that out.
Speaker 1: And I do know that they have lowered the age
Speaker 1: for you know, certain cancer screening tests that used to
Speaker 1: be fifty and now down to forty five or forty
Speaker 1: both in terms of both men and women. Penny, thanks
Speaker 1: very much. Have you called before since your first time?
Speaker 6: I called one other time. I think it was about
Speaker 6: the police union. And I'm not making enough money or
Speaker 6: having housing, so.
Speaker 1: They'll do me a favorite. Don't be a stranger. Come
Speaker 1: on back sooner than the last one. Okay, thanks very much,
Speaker 1: Happy New Year.
Speaker 6: All right, thanks bye, thank you, have a great night.
Speaker 1: Quick break here, get a couple more and if you'd
Speaker 1: like six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty six, one, seven, nine,
Speaker 1: ten thirty. My names Dan Y talking about a surgeon
Speaker 1: General's report that links drinking of any sort alcohol alcohol,
Speaker 1: drinking alcohol, wine, beer spirits with cancer, specifically seven types
Speaker 1: of cancer. I was unaware of it. Don't know what's
Speaker 1: going to change my behavior, but I'd love to know
Speaker 1: if you were aware of it, and if you were not,
Speaker 1: would have changed your behavior. We'll be back on Nightside.
Speaker 2: Now, back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 2: nights Side Studios on WBZ, the news Radio.
Speaker 1: Well, let's go to Rick and Bill Rica. Rick, were
Speaker 1: you aware of this report?
Speaker 8: No, I wasn't aware of it at all. I mean
Speaker 8: we always think of, you know, cirrhosis of the liver,
Speaker 8: and maybe you can consider you could consider someone that's
Speaker 8: in bad shape if they drink too much. It could
Speaker 8: affect on the parts of the body. Sure, I say
Speaker 8: moderation all the way, but go ahead, No, I agree
Speaker 8: with you this.
Speaker 1: There's certainly something to think about. But I don't consider
Speaker 1: myself to be in that in that category. But obviously,
Speaker 1: what they're saying is you're you increase the chances, even
Speaker 1: if it's by a percentage point or two or three, uh,
Speaker 1: if you imbibe more regularly or if you imbibe uh,
Speaker 1: you know, you know a little more heavily.
Speaker 8: Let me put it like that, you know, Yeah, what
Speaker 8: you gave the figures a few minutes ago, what what
Speaker 8: was the percentage? It was ten percent if you didn't
Speaker 8: certain cancers. And then what did it go up to
Speaker 8: with moderate use arouncohol like what I drink a day,
Speaker 8: it kicked it up I think to eleven point four percent.
Speaker 1: Now again, those are those are precise figures. I don't
Speaker 1: know that that applies to everybody, but there that's what
Speaker 1: they're uh, their their analysis says. And the difference between
Speaker 1: a ten percent chance and UH and eleven point four
Speaker 1: percent exactly that's going without those who you know, have
Speaker 1: you know, have a drink and enjoy a glass of
Speaker 1: wine or or or a beer at the ball.
Speaker 8: Game exactly, and even if it's too it takes it
Speaker 8: up another point of do I'm having a beer right
Speaker 8: now enjoying this conversation. I am enjoying my beer, uhcause
Speaker 8: you know, I came back from my band practice, did
Speaker 8: my singing. Because I know that it can dry you out.
Speaker 8: In general, you gotta you gotta watch it. You go
Speaker 8: to the gym, you take care of business. It benefits you,
Speaker 8: if anything, and you we all deserve to relax a
Speaker 8: little bit. Sure it might it might be a little detrimental,
Speaker 8: but I think it's a lot of bloney. I mean
Speaker 8: it's sure. I'm sure it's a true report. But you
Speaker 8: just gotta are you gotta live life and moderately and
Speaker 8: appreciate things. Are you going to be afraid of everything?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think when the old adage that moderation and everything
Speaker 1: and everything in moderation, I think that I think that
Speaker 1: makes sense. I'm I'm not a druggie. I don't think
Speaker 1: there's a there's a moderation in drugs. I don't think
Speaker 1: that you could say, oh, I only use LSD a
Speaker 1: couple of times a week, or I only use FENTODYL
Speaker 1: on weekends. I mean, that's crazy. But I think beer's
Speaker 1: been around a long time. Wine's been around a long time.
Speaker 8: You know, wine what red Wind's my vice. I won't
Speaker 8: drink it alone. I'm careful about it because I love
Speaker 8: it so much, So I'll have it with lens and
Speaker 8: when I'm safe, you know, just just easy. I'm not driving,
Speaker 8: you know, you know that type of thing. But but exactly,
Speaker 8: and cigarettes had had six thousand chemical Well maybe back
Speaker 8: when your dad was smoking there were fewer, obviously, probably
Speaker 8: probably far fewer, but today's six thousand camera that's gonna
Speaker 8: be a more harmful. If they make freer the proper
Speaker 8: way and don't add all the crap, it can't be
Speaker 8: that detrimental. I mean, Jesus drank wine.
Speaker 1: Well you the wars out of my mouth. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, mine's been around for at least two thousand
Speaker 1: years and more, so we know that. Hey, I really
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. How was band practiced tonight? Good? I hope, yeah?
Speaker 8: Good good. Just you know, we're trying to get together
Speaker 8: for a show and we're kind of we're behind schedule.
Speaker 1: Rick, let me know, do me a favorite, let me know,
Speaker 1: and we'll give you when you when you figure it out,
Speaker 1: we'll give you more. I'd love to give plugs to
Speaker 1: folks who are are in the music industry and listen
Speaker 1: to Nightside, who will give you a good plug a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks in advance. Maybe we'll be able to
Speaker 1: get some listeners up there.
Speaker 8: Okay, I appreciate this. One's in New Hampshire. Like wolfbaro,
Speaker 8: thank you.
Speaker 1: Not a problem. People we watch signals a lot stronger
Speaker 1: than we get way past Wolf bro. Hey, I got
Speaker 1: I'm getting way past time here, so I gotta let
Speaker 1: you on.
Speaker 4: Okay, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Thanks Thanks Rick, talk soon. All right, we're done for
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