Speaker 1: You see something's going to happen.
Speaker 2: What what's going to happen?
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: What that's how I I just saw the books. If
Speaker 3: you texted me those are all the best books.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got them all sitting here.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, those are orange. I know I should
Speaker 3: have my all love books. So well, it's fine. I'm
Speaker 3: reading this book right now. You guys would like it.
Speaker 3: A speaking of ocult stuff, it's like all the occult
Speaker 3: stuff throughout every year. Ever, I don't.
Speaker 1: Wow, I'm gonna have to look that up.
Speaker 3: No, it's literally it has stuff that I've never heard of,
Speaker 3: which is hard to come by.
Speaker 1: That looks serious. Dude, I'll send you a photo of it, please. Yeah.
Speaker 3: It talks about this. Have you heard of the guy Jacob.
Speaker 2: Bohem but Jacob bowl I covered he.
Speaker 3: Talks about it has a few only reality unfortune. Elfis
Speaker 3: Levi whatever.
Speaker 2: His name is, I think, Yeah, I think he's a
Speaker 2: nastic saint.
Speaker 4: Actually, but uh, all right, since we are, since we're
Speaker 4: all live, now, let me start off the show for
Speaker 4: one hole minute. Actually all right, so yeah, welcome to
Speaker 4: the Occult Rejects. This episode, we got a we got
Speaker 4: a returning guest who brought another guests with him, and
Speaker 4: we got some rejects here.
Speaker 2: So first we'll start off, Joey P. What is up man,
Speaker 2: Library of.
Speaker 1: The until I'm gonna reject today. Okay, I'm gonna call
Speaker 1: it reject today.
Speaker 4: All right, all right, you have to take off some clothing.
Speaker 4: We're gonna have to make sure headless is here. Yeah,
Speaker 4: all right, joking Joey, please let everybody know what's going on.
Speaker 1: Well, I am the host of Library of the Untold
Speaker 1: on YouTube, and I got a video coming out Friday
Speaker 1: that delves into the possibility that the soul is electricity.
Speaker 4: See I've been yo, totally down with that because I've
Speaker 4: been saying that for a long time. My man, I
Speaker 4: fucking wisome. I'm glad somebody else is saying that with
Speaker 4: a much bigger audience. Uh So that's awesome. Thank you
Speaker 4: very much for coming on, my man, and from making.
Speaker 2: The show work.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm really really excited. I appreciate it. Uh Matt, Matt, please,
Speaker 4: what is ups?
Speaker 1: Are?
Speaker 5: What is up? Long time? They'll see? Just kidding.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I'm Matt as always. You can find me
Speaker 6: on at Moore nineteen. That's going to be on Twitter, YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Twitch,
Speaker 6: maybe some other place I'm not remembering. And you can
Speaker 6: also always find me in my website which has a
Speaker 6: lot of cool stuff. That's going to be Cabala dot
Speaker 6: com k A A B A l a h dot com.
Speaker 6: They're also the Twitter spaces we do the Gray Lodge
Speaker 6: and you can always find the archives at the True
Speaker 6: Gray Lodge with the v true dot com also and
Speaker 6: they're all archives in YouTube. So that's those are pretty nice.
Speaker 6: We just launched the one. The first one from this
Speaker 6: year was super nice. There actually was was there or
Speaker 6: it's going to be premiered later. I don't know, but
Speaker 6: it's gonna be both today and Yeah, pretty happy to
Speaker 6: be here. Let's have a great talk.
Speaker 4: Yes, thank you very much for coming so I appreciate it,
Speaker 4: especially since we just did a show a half hour ago.
Speaker 4: Appreciate you. Bud and Ethan, please, sir, let everybody know
Speaker 4: what's up with you.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 8: Honored to be here, Nick, thank you for putting these
Speaker 8: great shows together. Dana, just talking with you, I know
Speaker 8: this is gonna be awesome. Joey, I always know you're
Speaker 8: gonna drop some bombs and some science. So Ethan Indigo.
Speaker 9: Smith on all the usual suspects on social media and
Speaker 9: easy to find, and I appreciate anyone communicating headless and
Speaker 9: Ricardo and I have been doing this Sunday trialogues and
Speaker 9: other writing frequently and putting out articles.
Speaker 8: And again, just toner to be here with the rest
Speaker 8: of you guys. Thank you, Nick and everyone.
Speaker 4: Thank you for coming man, that's what makes a part
Speaker 4: of the show. And finally the guest herself. We've got
Speaker 4: Dana Kipple. She's the author of a New Force and
Speaker 4: she will be talking about plasma and that is something
Speaker 4: I am a very very interested in. And yeah, I
Speaker 4: do think this, you know, I do think this stuff
Speaker 4: does tie into the occult. I do think there is
Speaker 4: science in the occult and this stuff I think applause.
Speaker 4: So I'm very interested to see where this show goes.
Speaker 4: I'm sure it's going to be amazing, like it always is.
Speaker 4: And Dana, please let everybody know where they can find
Speaker 4: all your stuff or whatever you would like to promote.
Speaker 3: Oh sure, thank you. Okay, So yes, my book, which
Speaker 3: is right here I'm too lazy to get down A
Speaker 3: New Force, Plasma, Consciousness and the New Human Potential. It
Speaker 3: is on my website. I have a few exclusive sign
Speaker 3: copies that is Danakipple dot com. You can also get
Speaker 3: it on Amazon Prime. You can get a color version
Speaker 3: or black and white version. And then on my Instagram
Speaker 3: Danta dot the Alien, or my TikTok at Dana Kipple
Speaker 3: or my YouTube at Plasma Intelligence.
Speaker 10: There's a link in.
Speaker 3: My bio that goes to my Awesome Magic classes where
Speaker 3: I teach the science of higher Consciousness. I kind of
Speaker 3: fuse new physics and new sciences with human magic and
Speaker 3: philosophy and a bit of mental health and how we
Speaker 3: can basically apply this to live more deeper, magical, awesome
Speaker 3: lives with the mystery itself. So that's really just my
Speaker 3: book and magic classes. And I'm speaking at a few
Speaker 3: upcoming events. If you're in Los Angeles, I'll be at
Speaker 3: the La Conscious Life Expo February twenty first and second,
Speaker 3: and then I'm speaking at the Science of Consciousness Conference
Speaker 3: in April in Tucson, Arizona, and anything else I forgot.
Speaker 3: So that's all I'll go with.
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, no, no, thank you very much
Speaker 2: for coming on.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I guess you know, since we are liminated time
Speaker 4: and I just want to get right to the chase,
Speaker 4: and I'd only do that with most people, especially authors.
Speaker 2: What was it?
Speaker 4: I guess that was like plasma. When was there like
Speaker 4: a moment where that idea popped at your head? You
Speaker 4: had a you know, yeah, if little voice had something
Speaker 4: about plasma and you just ran with that, Like how
Speaker 4: did that happen?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Literally, So I started meditating like maybe five years ago.
Speaker 3: Now I had never meditated ever, but I was always
Speaker 3: like in touch with like the paranormal and like I
Speaker 3: was obsessed with magic as a kid and all those things,
Speaker 3: and so I was meditating. It's like day three of
Speaker 3: transcendental meditation. And I still cannot explain this to this day.
Speaker 3: It's hard to put in words. All of a sudden,
Speaker 3: I just knew. I came out of the meditation just
Speaker 3: with this nosis that plasma was intelligent. It was the
Speaker 3: vehicle for consciousness. I was going to write a book
Speaker 3: called a New Force, and it was all this like
Speaker 3: huge ocean of wisdom was in my mind. It doesn't
Speaker 3: mean I knew how to apply it right away. It
Speaker 3: doesn't mean I could put it in human words. But
Speaker 3: it's just like I had this knowing in my heart,
Speaker 3: and you know.
Speaker 10: At first I did not follow it.
Speaker 3: I was like, no, I'm going to be a famous actress,
Speaker 3: Like this is so silly, Like I don't know what
Speaker 3: this is, but this isn't cool and no one's going
Speaker 3: to like me, and what what the hell is this?
Speaker 3: And then you know, it kept knocking at my door
Speaker 3: that I you know, it wouldn't go away. And finally
Speaker 3: five years later, you know, I wrote my book about it,
Speaker 3: and I'm obsessed with it now and I kind of,
Speaker 3: you know, committed to my one of my destinies, I guess.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I didn't know what plasma was. I have
Speaker 3: had no education, Like, yes, I did have you know,
Speaker 3: I had a propensity. I was very good at quantitative
Speaker 3: reasoning and math and science as a kid. I was
Speaker 3: gifted in those subjects. But then I worked in the
Speaker 3: mental health industry and I never could have thought a
Speaker 3: million years I would be doing this right now.
Speaker 10: As the point I'm trying.
Speaker 1: To make, you can tell that like the book found her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is this is seven hundred something pages, dude, and
Speaker 1: and I dove into it and what I found so
Speaker 1: pleasant about it and not so I'll plug your book
Speaker 1: too much on my end because I'm repeating what I
Speaker 1: said on our show. But this isn't a list of facts.
Speaker 1: This is practical application of the soul. Like, this isn't
Speaker 1: how to She lists the facts, but as you get
Speaker 1: deeper in the book, it's like a practical how to
Speaker 1: apply this, this kind of occult science to your everyday life.
Speaker 1: And she's proof of it. Dude, it's good.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. It is six hundred and sixty
Speaker 3: six pages. I don't know how that happened.
Speaker 2: I Oh, that's bad ass.
Speaker 1: I asked her on myself. I was like, why is
Speaker 1: your book six hundred and sixty six pages?
Speaker 3: She was like what, I ha, No, I thought it
Speaker 3: was six hundred and eighty four. So I don't know
Speaker 3: what happened there. But I will say to me, that
Speaker 3: is the number of balance, you know, three sixty nine,
Speaker 3: and it's like has to do with the heart chakra.
Speaker 3: It can also be flipped into other things as well.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's a it's a vibe. It's the color green,
Speaker 3: and I have a lot in my book about you know,
Speaker 3: the spectral green color and plasma and what that has
Speaker 3: to do with things. Yeah, I'm not the illuminat me.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's how it passed the test of not getting banished,
Speaker 1: because like, there's a lot of these guys you write
Speaker 1: about this stuff. William Reich, I mean, yes, they destroyed
Speaker 1: him and his book's only one hundred and twenty pages,
Speaker 1: So I can tell you, why tell me what that?
Speaker 2: Let's do that.
Speaker 3: So I actually was terrified of being I'm not even joking.
Speaker 3: I was terrified of being killed. And I got threats
Speaker 3: while writing this book. Am I even joking, Like a
Speaker 3: lot of people trying to scare me. And I was
Speaker 3: so paranoid. I thought someone was going to break into
Speaker 3: my mom's house and like murder me. But I started
Speaker 3: realizing that that fear is an eggergre or a pendulum,
Speaker 3: and the more you have the fear, the more that
Speaker 3: thing shows up in your life, and it almost becomes
Speaker 3: a self fulfilling prophecy. And the moment I claim my
Speaker 3: power back and I was like, no, I'm not scared.
Speaker 3: I'm on my highest timeline where I'm not going to
Speaker 3: get killed and my book's going to do great and
Speaker 3: I'm at the perfect time for this to come out,
Speaker 3: and I'm all that was number one. That belief and
Speaker 3: waking up in that timeline and all of a sudden
Speaker 3: that fear left me. Number Two, I'm currently not trying
Speaker 3: to make a machine, and I'm not in competition with
Speaker 3: you know, the oil and gas companies or any kind
Speaker 3: of technology company, so I would guess more safer, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm but also I am teaching you how to use
Speaker 3: this without any of those things, and you can't capitalize
Speaker 3: off it. So in a way it is dangerous, but
Speaker 3: I think people underestimated me. The book is out and
Speaker 3: we're just at the perfect time for this information to
Speaker 3: come out, so I feel like I'm safe.
Speaker 10: Thank God.
Speaker 6: Yeah, if I can say something about this, so it's
Speaker 6: I totally agree with you. I think that's the perfect
Speaker 6: time for something this to come out, especially like this
Speaker 6: coming year will be probably the last where we still
Speaker 6: get some stuff from the past, like a on the
Speaker 6: past ages and so on. And again, the more this
Speaker 6: kind of stuff becomes out in the open, the less they.
Speaker 5: Can control it. They you know, and it's whatever.
Speaker 6: Now, if you have a lot of people doing something,
Speaker 6: then you cannot really pinpoint like one person and then
Speaker 6: in them, right, So I totally agree with you and
Speaker 6: the mindset thing obviously, and if like if you give
Speaker 6: it power like the fear, then it comes stronger.
Speaker 5: Right, it's how people get cursed or whatever.
Speaker 6: Then the power of the curse is more in the
Speaker 6: person believing the curse than Yeah, our so it's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that basically that you know that black magic
Speaker 3: is there, right, and if we want to feed that wolf,
Speaker 3: we can and we can live life that way, and
Speaker 3: we can also live life with our own internal magic
Speaker 3: and walking through life with power. And that's what I'm
Speaker 3: choosing to do most days. Some days I forget.
Speaker 1: We mentioned.
Speaker 8: You mentioned that, uh, some of the plasma energy frequently
Speaker 8: presents itself with the green color. Yeah, could you break
Speaker 8: down a little of that or and maybe some of
Speaker 8: the other color are how are they?
Speaker 3: I mean, like the most the biggest colors that show up,
Speaker 3: And I think a plasma is actually one opal lessence,
Speaker 3: which is kind of more rainbow. That's like it at
Speaker 3: its most neutral, highest frequency. And then right below that,
Speaker 3: I would say it's like the violet flame, like a
Speaker 3: violet color or purple color. And then when it has
Speaker 3: to do with humans, it's a lot of the time
Speaker 3: and creation. A lot of the time it's green, which
Speaker 3: has to do with balance with heart energy. When you're
Speaker 3: creating from your heart, it's the most powerful. And then
Speaker 3: sometimes pink because it has a lot of links to
Speaker 3: the divine feminine, So there's like rose imagery and pink
Speaker 3: and red pinks and reds, and then teal. Weirdly enough,
Speaker 3: with Mary Magdalen, there's like some blue and teal vibes.
Speaker 3: But I wrote that's more like mythological stuff. But as
Speaker 3: far as the science goes, and I wrote this in
Speaker 3: my book, I'm trying to find it really quick. So
Speaker 3: there's if anyone has my book it wants to look
Speaker 3: this up in the future. It is on page fifty five.
Speaker 3: It's called green Waves and Cosmic Balance, and it talks
Speaker 3: about like spectral lines and this phenomenon called the green
Speaker 3: flash when so when the sun sets, there's this rare
Speaker 3: thing that can happen where it flashes green and it's
Speaker 3: where the sun's meaning the horizon, and I actually think
Speaker 3: it's very magical. It's the same thing is the zinc spark,
Speaker 3: this green fluorescence when a sperm fertilizes an egg, and
Speaker 3: I believe I believe it's basically when plasma and consciousness
Speaker 3: come together and create something. So anytime anything interacts which
Speaker 3: is you know, plasma and consciousness and I can go
Speaker 3: more into that X right now that makes no sense
Speaker 3: for most people. It's you know, green is the color
Speaker 3: wave of consciousness creating the universe.
Speaker 1: Basically the center of the color wheel too. It's directly
Speaker 1: censor any color wheel. And it's funny enough like these
Speaker 1: are the colors that will flash in front of you
Speaker 1: before you go into the DMT world. Oh really Yeah,
Speaker 1: it happens quick, but it's like a really colorful like
Speaker 1: rainbow pastel, almost bubbly like this, which I thought you
Speaker 1: did on purpose.
Speaker 10: No, I've never done any hallucinogens or d MT or anything.
Speaker 1: That's crazy to me after reading this. Well, like the
Speaker 1: color of green with it being like the heart shocker
Speaker 1: and all that. Like the ancient Egyptians talked about the
Speaker 1: middle realm, the Earth realm is green and in as
Speaker 1: above so below way, that's why we're green in the center,
Speaker 1: purple on top and then read at the bottom because
Speaker 1: we live, you know, between the neataro and the dude.
Speaker 3: So you have a great counterbalanceis to everything I say,
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: I'll bring I'll bring the esoteric myth along with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, should I define the plasma I'm speaking of for
Speaker 3: people who are listening, Yes.
Speaker 4: I was actually going to ask if you wanted to
Speaker 4: go into well actually first, if you don't mind, I
Speaker 4: hate to kind of go backwards, but like, when it
Speaker 4: came to this book, what was it that you were
Speaker 4: like set out to do with this book kind of
Speaker 4: in a way with plasma?
Speaker 3: Literally nothing, So like that's the weirdest thing is I
Speaker 3: had zero intentions because of how the book came to me.
Speaker 10: It was it was like this thing I thought I
Speaker 10: knew I.
Speaker 3: Needed to do, but I didn't know why I was
Speaker 3: doing it, which is so hard to conceptualize, but I
Speaker 3: guess if I could, Like, it's almost like my higher
Speaker 3: self was like behind the wheel of my body, but
Speaker 3: I was like co creating with it and fighting against
Speaker 3: it at points. But I guess as I was writing
Speaker 3: the book, my only thought was I and I don't
Speaker 3: know if this is ego or my higher self, and
Speaker 3: maybe it's a mix of both. But I was like,
Speaker 3: I hope this sells. I hope millions of people read
Speaker 3: this one day. I hope this helped change the world.
Speaker 3: I guess my biggest intent I have two intentions. I
Speaker 3: never just have one is to remind people of their
Speaker 3: inner power and to remind people that they're never alone.
Speaker 3: I would say those are like my two biggest intentions.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Solid. It actually helped me a little bit with my
Speaker 1: own insecurities about putting out videos that I felt were
Speaker 1: unhinged mmm, because it's like, uh, you feel that fear
Speaker 1: that becomes an agreegor and you can just directly counter
Speaker 1: balance it with you know, just everyday mindfulness and meditative uh,
Speaker 1: you know, a mindset or whatever, and it almost feels
Speaker 1: like you're protected. And not to sound too wild, but
Speaker 1: that's what it feels like sometimes when you feel insecure
Speaker 1: about putting out some information that you're sure of in
Speaker 1: your heart, but how is it going to be received?
Speaker 1: And you put it out there. If you put it
Speaker 1: out there with those insecurities intact, that's how you're going
Speaker 1: to project yourself and people will respond to it in
Speaker 1: that way, in the same way that dogs can smell fear.
Speaker 1: It's in your body language, you know. But whenever you
Speaker 1: bring like authentic, like how you describe just the knowing
Speaker 1: with whatever you're presenting, you know, it creates almost like
Speaker 1: a protective bubble around you. Maybe that's like literally a
Speaker 1: plasma bubble because we have that.
Speaker 3: It's the shining, the shining.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would call it. That makes sense. It's cool.
Speaker 3: There's a lot there behind that, but I'll leave that
Speaker 3: for people to figure out.
Speaker 2: All right, So now if you want what kind of
Speaker 2: plasma are we talking about?
Speaker 8: You?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yes?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 3: And also I think the book and what Joey's kind
Speaker 3: of speaking to it reminds people because like, I'm an
Speaker 3: ex drug addict, you know, I'm not like And the
Speaker 3: thing is, most like people who who do change the
Speaker 3: world are fucked up, but they forget along the way
Speaker 3: to remind people of that, and they pretend they're enlightened,
Speaker 3: and it's like, no one is not even depal to
Speaker 3: promt so sorry, but not even like, no one is
Speaker 3: fully enlightened. We are human. We cannot remove the humanity
Speaker 3: from humanity. And it's very important to remember that even now,
Speaker 3: I make so many mistakes, no matter how much I know,
Speaker 3: no matter how much wisdom someone has, we do not
Speaker 3: embody and embody at every second of the day. And
Speaker 3: when someone's pure and authentic, it has nothing to do
Speaker 3: with how perfect or good they are. It has to
Speaker 3: do with how authentic they're being and how pure their
Speaker 3: intentions are. It doesn't mean we don't make mistakes, and
Speaker 3: it does like anyone and any human can change their
Speaker 3: life or do the things that I'm speaking of.
Speaker 10: Is my point, Like you don't need to be.
Speaker 3: Fully healed or go to school or like you know,
Speaker 3: practice for a million years, like you can do it
Speaker 3: now if you give yourself permission and recognize your wholeness,
Speaker 3: no matter how much shit you've done in the past.
Speaker 3: That's really fucked up. So I just wanted to share
Speaker 3: that really quick because it's very important to me. Plasma
Speaker 3: What is it? So? In science, plasma is an ionized gas.
Speaker 3: It's the force state of matter. There's solid liquid gas
Speaker 3: than plasma. It is known as lightning, the Aurora borealities.
Speaker 3: There's also cold plasma when you look at neon signs.
Speaker 3: I posit in my theory that plasma is actually multidimensional.
Speaker 3: So there is plasma beyond what we can observe in science,
Speaker 3: and you can call it a living ether. It is multidimensional,
Speaker 3: It is sentient, and it is the vehicle for consciousness.
Speaker 3: Information and intelligence. Information is what I'll go into it
Speaker 3: just a little bit. Information is imprinted consciousness. It is
Speaker 3: more fourth dimensional. Think of it more as memory or
Speaker 3: as limiting beliefs. It is things that our consciousness has
Speaker 3: imprinted on plasma for years and years and years, creating
Speaker 3: the ecocic field.
Speaker 10: It can be changed.
Speaker 3: It might come to you as a cryptoid or an alien,
Speaker 3: or we can go into that another time. But it
Speaker 3: does not have free will itself. And then there is
Speaker 3: intelligence which does have free will. It is more like
Speaker 3: fifth dimensional consciousness. You know, you're higher self visiting you,
Speaker 3: and plasma is the vehicle for all these things. Plasma
Speaker 3: is also around us as our biofield, right, and it
Speaker 3: has to do with electromagnetism too. It's you know, what's
Speaker 3: it called photons or dark photons are coming out of
Speaker 3: this plasma, so it's electromagnetic. And then there's this plasma
Speaker 3: bubble around us. It's like our mirakeba and we travel
Speaker 3: in that. So when we die in the third dimension,
Speaker 3: it lifts us off to the fourth and fifth dimensions
Speaker 3: we are. It's the vehicle for consciousness. It shepherds us
Speaker 3: into other worlds. Plasma is like the intelligent clay that
Speaker 3: we mold with our consciousness. It's the glue of all timelines, dimensions,
Speaker 3: and realities. It also has links to the divine, feminine
Speaker 3: and Mary Magdalen. When you look at a plasma universe,
Speaker 3: it's not a spiral galaxy. It actually turns into a
Speaker 3: rose or a ballerina skirt. So anyway, I'll stop there.
Speaker 3: But that's what plasma is. It's a multi dimensional glue
Speaker 3: of everything.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that about the galaxies that were not spirals.
Speaker 1: That's fascinating. I'm going to have to look into that
Speaker 1: like a.
Speaker 10: Spiral rose like it becomes more like a rose.
Speaker 3: And then if you look in every magical system ever,
Speaker 3: you know rose is symbolism for a reason.
Speaker 1: And yeah, if I can add a little bit something
Speaker 1: that the plasma being multidimensional is by no means something
Speaker 1: that is just in occult concept. Because people think that
Speaker 1: they think solid liquid gas plasma. This leads to them
Speaker 1: think that plasma is just a really thin version of
Speaker 1: all of those things, like there's atoms that are dense
Speaker 1: solid items, less dense liquid, la, YadA, YadA. But it's
Speaker 1: totally not the case. The makeup of conduct of what
Speaker 1: how plasma is constructed isn't even atoms at all. So
Speaker 1: if you have like a gas and that's like really
Speaker 1: loose atoms. What plasma is is those atoms are annihilated.
Speaker 1: They're actually not even atoms. They're just loose electrons and
Speaker 1: protons that are not bound to each other. So they
Speaker 1: can travel through any solid substance the same way that
Speaker 1: photons can through entire planets or whatever. They don't live
Speaker 1: by any rules that we recognize in physics, so it
Speaker 1: gives it that multidimensional aspect, like literally built in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean it's the I would say, it's,
Speaker 3: you know, the finest state of matter, right that we
Speaker 3: like out of those four. So like obviously one would
Speaker 3: posit that there's stuff beyond that, right. So yeah, and
Speaker 3: also with a cult really quick, you know in some circles,
Speaker 3: you know, the saying the star is the man.
Speaker 10: You know, we are human stars.
Speaker 3: David Bowie used to say, just what did he say,
Speaker 3: I'm a star just at water and Twist or something.
Speaker 3: I don't remember what he said. But the star stars
Speaker 3: are plasma. You know, we are a plasma. So there's
Speaker 3: a lot there. Yeah, do you.
Speaker 2: Think that it's all just go ahead? No, I'm sorry, no, no,
Speaker 2: you can go.
Speaker 6: I was gonna say it's all just so fascinating. I
Speaker 6: don't know if you can see the screen sharing. I'm
Speaker 6: trying to. Yeah, just to this when you were talking
Speaker 6: about the colors, right, don't solve if you ever saw
Speaker 6: this version of the no Trift Life, and like you
Speaker 6: were saying the like I think it iritiscent or whatever,
Speaker 6: like all the colors can combine exactly a pleasant exactly
Speaker 6: and it just like how the Trift Life would explain.
Speaker 5: It is exactly that you have the kind of unformed energy.
Speaker 6: It comes down, it becomes this kind of light thing,
Speaker 6: which is the first thing we can see, and it
Speaker 6: goes traveling through all the different colors, right, and then
Speaker 6: as we're talking about like the green or whatever, and
Speaker 6: it's just again the idea of some vehicle which you
Speaker 6: also mentioned, the marcoba, which kind of moves. And then
Speaker 6: in a coult we would say the elements, so all
Speaker 6: the four elements would be contained, and then the fifth
Speaker 6: one is the one that kind of moved them around,
Speaker 6: like they can only exist exactly within this one, so
Speaker 6: it makes total sense.
Speaker 5: And then each place would call it different thing. You know,
Speaker 5: you can call it like key.
Speaker 6: Or prana or whatever the heck you want to call it,
Speaker 6: but it's energy exactly. The spirit guys would call it
Speaker 6: like ectoplasm. So they would they need exactly like we're
Speaker 6: saying that when they were doing the like challenges or whatever,
Speaker 6: the guys that they were challenging the eggregre the other
Speaker 6: dimensional beings, they need the plasma from the medium to
Speaker 6: go and do stuff, like we're saying, like they need
Speaker 6: some kind of fluid to go and do everything. And
Speaker 6: also just to finish the last point, I think in
Speaker 6: English it's called like will oh the wisp plasmas well
Speaker 6: exactly exactly, which is what we're talking about.
Speaker 5: Like when you die, it's just like this kind of
Speaker 5: thing flows out of you and then it but it.
Speaker 6: Continues, like the information is there like that. It's like
Speaker 6: when you get a cell phone. You know, this is
Speaker 6: hard verd, this is the body. I can throw this around.
Speaker 6: But if I have all my data somewhere, I just
Speaker 6: plug into the data somewhere else and then they have
Speaker 6: like the same phone and a different body, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's just so fascinating.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, do you this type of plasma? I mean,
Speaker 4: like would it also be attributed to the plasma that's
Speaker 4: in our blood.
Speaker 3: So yes and so in science, obviously they're completely different things,
Speaker 3: but they were actually named after each other for a reason.
Speaker 3: They have the same characteristics. So they have to do
Speaker 3: both have to do with communication, with information, exchange with protection.
Speaker 3: And that's the first chapter of my book you can
Speaker 3: get into, is like they literally have the same function.
Speaker 3: So plasma actually is more of a behavior than a
Speaker 3: state of matter. So our reality you can think of
Speaker 3: as a huge fishful or painting a plasma in all
Speaker 3: different gradients and there's you know, solid and you know,
Speaker 3: even in you know, materials science, there's plasmatic effects and solids.
Speaker 3: That's why they're shape shifting metals. Right, there's not a
Speaker 3: big difference between metals and plasma. But back to what
Speaker 3: you were asking me and blood plasma, kind of like
Speaker 3: how the star is the man. I believe that there's
Speaker 3: something we don't know about blood plasma yet, where that
Speaker 3: you know, when you know, if a car crashes, time
Speaker 3: slows down, or like let's say a car falls on
Speaker 3: someone's leg and you have superhuman strength all of a
Speaker 3: sudden and pick it up. I believe that somehow our
Speaker 3: plasma gives us those kind of magical powers of you know,
Speaker 3: superposition where the body almost communicates faster than light. I
Speaker 3: don't know how, I'm not. You know, if I did,
Speaker 3: i'd be a billionaire. But I think that our blood
Speaker 3: plasma has very magical properties. I think there's a reason
Speaker 3: when you donate plasma, ninety percent of it goes to
Speaker 3: get studied and only like ten percent is donated to
Speaker 3: people who need plasma. And I tried to put a
Speaker 3: video about that and it got taken down three times.
Speaker 3: Oh now, And it doesn't mean I'm not giving medical
Speaker 3: advice for people not to donate plasma. It's just like,
Speaker 3: maybe ask where your plasma's going, like it can save lives, right,
Speaker 3: So I'm not saying don't do it, but just you know,
Speaker 3: alchemical gold plasma's gold, guys, and you know plasma facials
Speaker 3: make you young for a reason.
Speaker 10: I should start doing them.
Speaker 3: But yeah, anyway, they're different in science, but I just
Speaker 3: for everyone to know who's listening. In Greek, plasma means
Speaker 3: to mold or the molded. Obviously that's what we do
Speaker 3: with it.
Speaker 11: So yeah, yeah, even I guess the sperm also is
Speaker 11: made out of similar, similar thing, right, like they're Yeah,
Speaker 11: so I think it's a lot.
Speaker 5: Of blood and then mixes with something else or something.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and blood is plasma, you know. And what's
Speaker 3: interesting is you made me think of membranes. Everything as
Speaker 3: a plasma membrane, from a plant to an animal. Our
Speaker 3: cell has a plasma membrane. Guess what else does the
Speaker 3: Earth It's called the ionosphere and magnetosphere. Humans it's called
Speaker 3: the biofield. And what is that membrane. It's where our
Speaker 3: consciousness actually lives. It's where the information exchange between inner
Speaker 3: and outer happens. It's that liminal Our consciousness is really
Speaker 3: a liminal space. And that's why I don't even like
Speaker 3: the word consciousness because it's like hard to define. That's
Speaker 3: why I say it's more plasma consciousness synergy. It's just
Speaker 3: a constant feedback of us creating meaning out of neutral
Speaker 3: events that are happening. And it's more about our conscious
Speaker 3: perspective that matters more than like like we're asking the
Speaker 3: wrong questions like who cares what consciousness is? It's like,
Speaker 3: how can we have a relationship with reality and learn
Speaker 3: more about that? Like that's what actually matters. Like we're
Speaker 3: being just like in magic, like they're showing us this
Speaker 3: and asking these questions when we should be looking over here,
Speaker 3: because that's keeping us disempowered.
Speaker 10: What is consciousness? Who the fuck cares?
Speaker 3: How's it going to change anything? It's like, what about
Speaker 3: have a relationship with reality and learn magic.
Speaker 1: I think we have a bad habit as people, especially
Speaker 1: in science, to give something a name and then call
Speaker 1: it a day. We do it with DNA, especially with plasma,
Speaker 1: but even electricity, and a lot of people don't realize
Speaker 1: when I tell that lightning is a mystery. We don't
Speaker 1: know how lightning works and for that to be a mystery,
Speaker 1: like yeah, but we go to school and they explain
Speaker 1: a lightning like it's something that's been solved, and that's
Speaker 1: an issue, you know, especially with plasma because how Matt
Speaker 1: was talking about the information on a cell phone can
Speaker 1: move from one phone to another. This and what Dana
Speaker 1: is saying about us having a bio a bio field,
Speaker 1: I forget, yeah, and the Earth also having the same thing.
Speaker 1: It makes out of body experiences scientifically sound because with science,
Speaker 1: even material with science coming out now saying that they
Speaker 1: don't think that consciousness is localized to the brain. So
Speaker 1: if it's got a vehicle of some sort, which it
Speaker 1: must well, then it can travel from this fleshy membrane
Speaker 1: to a plasmatic field and back and forth, because they
Speaker 1: have shown that the makeup of plasma is as complex
Speaker 1: as neurons in a brain, but without the fleshy tangible matter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you look into the Krdleuski clouds and dusty
Speaker 3: complex plasma, it's self organizing plasma. Same with plasmoids. There's
Speaker 3: magnetic recombination and there's things that in the plasmas that
Speaker 3: look like filaments and DNA and it's like a there's
Speaker 3: a paper by Robert Temple called the Cordleuski Clouds Cosmic superbrains,
Speaker 3: and it's about how they are intelligent, not like you know,
Speaker 3: free will like human per se, but they have their
Speaker 3: own complexity and intelligence. And something with lightning too, and
Speaker 3: this I'll just put this a little bit in mental health.
Speaker 3: Lightning to come down to Earth needs grounding. We when
Speaker 3: we're doing magic and when we're working with plasma, the
Speaker 3: first thing we need to do is always ground If not,
Speaker 3: it's kind of like Icarus going to the light, his
Speaker 3: wings melt, we will go crazy. So when you're working
Speaker 3: with plasma and magic and just in everyday life and everything.
Speaker 3: Wake up and ground like, connect with your heart, connect
Speaker 3: with the earth. Like the grounding is so important for
Speaker 3: all this work.
Speaker 1: So can you tell us about the Cordleski clouds because
Speaker 1: I think that that might be a new concept here
Speaker 1: in the occult reject world. Oh fascinating.
Speaker 3: Okay, I might butcher this, So if I do, You're
Speaker 3: going to have to take over, and Robert Temple's going
Speaker 3: to be so mad at me. There are two large
Speaker 3: plasma clouds that were hypothesized to be real in like
Speaker 3: the fifties by this Korluski guy, and then they discovered
Speaker 3: them a few years ago, in like twenty eighteen, and
Speaker 3: they didn't. They were discovered these plasma clouds between lagrange
Speaker 3: points four and five between the Earth and the Moon.
Speaker 3: And the weird thing is that they weren't thinking about
Speaker 3: them being intelligent. And then Robert Temple, who was writing
Speaker 3: a book on plasma, was like, hey, have you ever
Speaker 3: studied you know, the plasma and intelligence in these clouds?
Speaker 3: And they were like no, And then they did, and
Speaker 3: you know, they found out that these you know, cosmic
Speaker 3: SuperBrain clouds had just as much complexity and intelligence like
Speaker 3: as a computer basically, and as they had like DNA filaments.
Speaker 10: Can you Joey help me out here, right?
Speaker 1: Did?
Speaker 3: That's what they had.
Speaker 1: And then well they can store information the same way
Speaker 1: that a computer can. Yeah, the same way a quantum
Speaker 1: computer can. And that's, by the way, that's no wu wu.
Speaker 1: We use plasma to store information.
Speaker 3: Yeah, plasma crystal.
Speaker 1: So to imagine that there's two of them on either
Speaker 1: side of the Moon that are the size of the
Speaker 1: Earth are bigger. Is such a magnitude of information that,
Speaker 1: as Robert Temple said in his paper, you can store
Speaker 1: the entire record of biology from all since Earth's beginning
Speaker 1: and all the evolution of life on Earth. You can
Speaker 1: store it on one of those literally on the cloud.
Speaker 1: And there's a reason we call it the cloud, you know.
Speaker 1: But those things are there, and they're invisible. But I
Speaker 1: mean the most the most effective things in our universe
Speaker 1: are invisible, dark matter, dark energy, you know, all these things.
Speaker 10: I just have to do a plasma too, which I can.
Speaker 1: Right right, But what nick you'll love this, dude. So
Speaker 1: with all that said about the Kordilevski clouds, there's the
Speaker 1: Gnastic Gospels. They describe Metatron and Metatron is one of
Speaker 1: two what they called formless gigantic mega entities, and they
Speaker 1: described it on either side of the moon, locked into
Speaker 1: rotation with the moon, that follow us and watch us
Speaker 1: as we evolve. That's how the Gnostic Gospels described Metatron.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that, dude, so.
Speaker 1: They they I don't know what kind of downloads these
Speaker 1: guys were getting, the Illucinian mysteries or whatever, but they
Speaker 1: knew about those clouds before we had the technology to
Speaker 1: study them. And I think they understood them a lot
Speaker 1: better than we do.
Speaker 3: And I think they're all over the you know, you know,
Speaker 3: I was going to say the United States, all over
Speaker 3: the universe. And also Anana, how like there's colds of
Speaker 3: Isis and Anana. Anana says Sumerian goddess Anana backwards. Her
Speaker 3: name means cloud of God, a cloud of obscurity, or
Speaker 3: cloud of yahwe oh yeah, so and you know her
Speaker 3: symbolism is obviously the owl, the rose, the lion, and
Speaker 3: you know her her whole story is the descent, right,
Speaker 3: But there's you know, there's a lot there, and really
Speaker 3: quick at dark manner and dark energy. In my Fear,
Speaker 3: in my book, I explained the dark matter is really
Speaker 3: just an effect we're seeing of what I call dark
Speaker 3: plasma or four dimensional plasma, which is the ecostic realm
Speaker 3: that holds our thoughts and our memories and our emotions
Speaker 3: and science. Just like their minds would explode if they
Speaker 3: were to admit that or even try to study that.
Speaker 10: I don't think they know how. And then dark energy.
Speaker 3: Is more of that what I was calling fifth dimensional
Speaker 3: god energy or higher self energy. I believe that that's
Speaker 3: the energy expanding the universe from us literally creating with
Speaker 3: plasma and consciousness.
Speaker 10: So those are theories I have.
Speaker 1: There was a an article, a scientific article from my
Speaker 1: Scientific American and I saw it only about two weeks
Speaker 1: ago and it was new and it was like a
Speaker 1: new insight on dark matter indicates its plasmatic nature. And
Speaker 1: immediately I was like, well, now you guys are catching
Speaker 1: up to data.
Speaker 3: So yeah, right, what the fuck?
Speaker 1: Give me credit, congratulations see in your PhDs for keeping
Speaker 1: up with this content creator.
Speaker 3: And I was gonna say, they also just releasing about
Speaker 3: like dark photons. I was like, I thought talked about
Speaker 3: this in my book and call them antiphotons and how
Speaker 3: they're like other dimensional I was like, what the fuck
Speaker 3: I literally I literally talk about but I think light
Speaker 3: really is in my book and rethinking light, and then
Speaker 3: they come out with that.
Speaker 10: I was like whatever I said at first.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got a magnetic field and it affects things magnetically,
Speaker 1: and no one thought it had the math to do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that has to do with the feminine, the
Speaker 3: dark feminine, right, magnetic just focused on the electro part
Speaker 3: and not the magnetism part. There's so feminine and in
Speaker 3: magic we all know all the you know, secret societies
Speaker 3: worship the feminine and the goddess.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 6: No, and it's funny, like exactly the science will always
Speaker 6: take I don't know, twenty one hundred something years to
Speaker 6: catch up even more sometimes like they'll just and they'll say,
Speaker 6: we just discovered it. It's like, sure, you guys, just
Speaker 6: like this isn't as well. But one thing you guys
Speaker 6: mentioned two things actually that made me think. First, the
Speaker 6: idea of the information not being local. So when you
Speaker 6: think about universe, it's also fractalized. It's like holoo graphic.
Speaker 6: So even you have that exactly. When you have that,
Speaker 6: then you can have each point like each if you
Speaker 6: understand reality as having like pixels. Each pixel has the
Speaker 6: whole information to create the whole thing again because it's
Speaker 6: again it's fractalized.
Speaker 5: And it goes on and on and on.
Speaker 6: And the thing about electricity, which again I completely agree
Speaker 6: a lot of people don't even really understand what it is.
Speaker 6: There's a video from I think it's very Tassome or
Speaker 6: something like one of these science guys in YouTube, and
Speaker 6: he proposes in an experiment, which is like having two
Speaker 6: chords basically that would go around the Earth, but they
Speaker 6: would be like super close to each other, and they
Speaker 6: would have like a light bulb. You would start it
Speaker 6: and then in theory, the energy would have to go
Speaker 6: through the thing like around the Earth and then make.
Speaker 5: The light bulb go up.
Speaker 6: And then they ask, okay, but how much time will
Speaker 6: that take? The reality is it's basically instant because what
Speaker 6: the the core does. It's not passing the energy because
Speaker 6: the energy is like a few it's not like a
Speaker 6: linear thing. So just like being close enough, the feld
Speaker 6: passes to the other. Basically, it's something like that. You
Speaker 6: can watch the video afterward in this one. But again,
Speaker 6: the thing is electricity then becomes this plasma thing because
Speaker 6: it's again it's a few like electricity and magnetism together.
Speaker 5: It's not like a whole yeah, like imagine like a
Speaker 5: zap thing. It's like it's not that.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I know, it's completely linked.
Speaker 3: And when you just said the pixels of reality, I
Speaker 3: draw this in my book too. I call them plasma spherrals,
Speaker 3: and I literally just say that, like reality is made
Speaker 3: of little plasma spherrals, like as pixels, and it actually
Speaker 3: has to do with like neutrinos and flavors and neutrinos.
Speaker 10: But I won't get into that today.
Speaker 2: The book.
Speaker 4: One of the reasons why this this plasma even like
Speaker 4: really interests me, it's man to take a little bit
Speaker 4: to explain.
Speaker 2: But you know, a while ago when I first started like.
Speaker 4: Having I guess magical experiences, Oh, I guess, you know,
Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 2: But there was a point where I kind of did
Speaker 2: it back to back quite.
Speaker 4: Often within like a week or so, and I thought
Speaker 4: there was something wrong with me, like physically, even my eyesight.
Speaker 4: I just didn't feel right. My eye my pitmont eyeball
Speaker 4: was pinned and the other one was open. So I
Speaker 4: was just like, something's wrong. And I went to the
Speaker 4: hospital and they had told me that well one day,
Speaker 4: tried to chalk it up to migraines and then telling
Speaker 4: me that I had some I forgot the actual name
Speaker 4: of the thing, but some issue with your blood where
Speaker 4: you where your hemoglobin is spiked up, and they were
Speaker 4: saying that the possible reasons for that as actually having
Speaker 4: low plasma water. So they were like, you should come
Speaker 4: in probably like in a couple of months and get
Speaker 4: it tested again, and then come back a month after that.
Speaker 2: And see how it is and if it's all right.
Speaker 4: It was a weird thing or just they said, sometimes
Speaker 4: this just happens to people, and you have to go
Speaker 4: and get blood like once a month. Because when I
Speaker 4: was one of when I was in the hospital, they
Speaker 4: had to give me a bag of blood and a
Speaker 4: bag of sailing.
Speaker 2: That's how like dry I guess. I was, so like,
Speaker 2: you know, after all that, I'm sitting in the hospital.
Speaker 4: I was there for a few days, and just even
Speaker 4: when I went home, I mean, my mind's going about.
Speaker 2: Like the whole situation, what I just experienced.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, I think like physiology is even tied into
Speaker 4: like magic and stuff, and I'm thinking, like I do
Speaker 4: believe that like you know, in a way I explained
Speaker 4: it too. You know, we're powered by electricity in the
Speaker 4: sense like the sunlight comes into our eyes and by
Speaker 4: the time it hits the optic nerve, it turns to electricity,
Speaker 4: and that's that's going through our body. And if plasma
Speaker 4: is electricity inside there, you know, if my opinion, I
Speaker 4: do think you have to kind of untether yourself to
Speaker 4: have a magical experience. I was wondering, is all like
Speaker 4: those side effects, especially with my blood issue, do to
Speaker 4: me maybe manipulating or using my plasma or maybe going
Speaker 4: somewhere and coming back and you're just an issue or something.
Speaker 4: I don't know, But I just thought, but the whole
Speaker 4: idea of just even knowing that a body runs on
Speaker 4: like electricity basically with their nerves and everything, and then plasma,
Speaker 4: and then it's in plasma as well, and it's in
Speaker 4: your blood, you know what I'm saying. So it's just
Speaker 4: like if that's all part of you, Like I don't know,
Speaker 4: Like that's why I think somewhere ties it.
Speaker 2: To a magical experience or something because of electricity.
Speaker 10: Honestly, I was gonna say, oh, do you want to
Speaker 10: go first?
Speaker 1: No, I was just going to say that's I think
Speaker 1: that's entirely us as the electrical nature, because if you
Speaker 1: remove the electricity, you just have a dead, wet sac.
Speaker 12: You know.
Speaker 3: I have a note on the difference between electricity and plasma,
Speaker 3: and I want to find it because it actually I
Speaker 3: had to do some research on this because like, Okay,
Speaker 3: they're seeing very similar and I was like, I don't
Speaker 3: even know, and I need to find it. I'll find that.
Speaker 3: When you guys are talking about really quick, what I
Speaker 3: want to say about what you said two different things.
Speaker 3: Low plasma, if you look it up, is.
Speaker 10: The first not with you. But this is also a
Speaker 10: weird thing.
Speaker 3: With memory is one of the first signifiers of Alzheimer's.
Speaker 3: So with loss of memory comes lower plasma levels, which
Speaker 3: is really interesting. There's a lot like your plasmas your magic.
Speaker 3: So when yeah, when you have like lower plasma levels,
Speaker 3: like your body starts acting funky. Also, I think I
Speaker 3: do not think this is crazy. I think this is
Speaker 3: really happening to a lot of people. We are evolving
Speaker 3: right now, and our senses are evolving, and with that
Speaker 3: almost comes like growing pains. Like this past year, I've
Speaker 3: had weird floaters in my eye. I've had my whole
Speaker 3: body starting from my head down on my feet go
Speaker 3: through shocks and pains and being stiff, and I was
Speaker 3: not actually sick.
Speaker 10: I was breaking out in rashes.
Speaker 3: I literally think we're almost going through like our bodies
Speaker 3: are going through a dark n eye to the soul
Speaker 3: where they're like it feels like we're getting worse, but
Speaker 3: then it actually all is like coming out of us
Speaker 3: so we can be like butterflies. So I think a
Speaker 3: lot of people are now going through very scary health
Speaker 3: issues and like vertigo and iye issues and like like
Speaker 3: like my throat for like two weeks was like hoarse,
Speaker 3: but I wasn't sick, Like it was like it was
Speaker 3: just like you know what I mean, Like there's weird shit,
Speaker 3: and he is my point, but everyone no one panic.
Speaker 3: Like I'm not saying don't go to a doctor like
Speaker 3: I went to because I was scared, But like know
Speaker 3: that for a lot of us, we're evolved. We really
Speaker 3: are evolving. Weird shits having a lot of people, but
Speaker 3: it's not bad. I think we're going to be just fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I even think that I was like, go ahead, sorry.
Speaker 1: The butterfly references perfect because that's grueling, it's agonizing for
Speaker 1: the caterpillar. And what's nuts about that is that the
Speaker 1: butterfly retains the memory of the caterpillar after it becomes
Speaker 1: I mean, they still don't quite understand it, but it
Speaker 1: becomes a sack of liquid that has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with a caterpillar or a butterfly, and that memory is retained.
Speaker 1: And those kind of worms that you see that can
Speaker 1: be cut and one scientists cut one of them, they'll
Speaker 1: see worms under twenty six pieces and every single piece
Speaker 1: became a new worm, and every single worm had the
Speaker 1: same memory. I don't know how they tested that they
Speaker 1: have the same memory, but it made them realize, like, okay,
Speaker 1: where is the memory stored, because it's not the brain.
Speaker 1: And the salamanders do this too, you know. So that
Speaker 1: also explains why whenever we leave our body in any
Speaker 1: kind of outer body experience or anything like that, we
Speaker 1: still retain memory. And this gives hope to that the
Speaker 1: entire concept of life after death, that we can still
Speaker 1: retain our character on our way out, and possibly that
Speaker 1: might be the alchemical point of life and death in
Speaker 1: the first place.
Speaker 6: Again, I'd say that's a perfect example of the caterpillar
Speaker 6: becoming a bitterfight because you get two dimensional being because
Speaker 6: the caterpillar can only go you know, through the earth.
Speaker 6: It can only go like back and forth and so
Speaker 6: on into the sides. And now you have like a
Speaker 6: third dimensional because the butterfly can literally fly, so it
Speaker 6: reaches different points. So again, if we are humans living
Speaker 6: in a let's say, third dimentional body and we want
Speaker 6: to go to a fourth or fifth or whatever, we
Speaker 6: got to deconstruct some of the things. And uh, some
Speaker 6: occultists or occultism books will talk about how before our
Speaker 6: bodies were actually made out out of silica, so like
Speaker 6: more crystal like instead of meat like, bone like. And
Speaker 6: again you kind of imagine you being a crystal. What
Speaker 6: we have here, it's how this ship works. It's a
Speaker 6: bunch of crystals, the energy and so on. So imagine
Speaker 6: for our bodies is that then imagine how much more
Speaker 6: information that can you know, transmute into one. And it's
Speaker 6: always the sun kind of giving the plasma from it
Speaker 6: to us. Right, So if you see all the like
Speaker 6: human resonance and all the ship like the plasma rays
Speaker 6: the sun sense to us and so on, you can
Speaker 6: see from where this kind of these like downloads are
Speaker 6: coming from right, like like you're saying, I'm not sick,
Speaker 6: but I'm getting shipped. Yeah, yeah, fucking boomy itself, so
Speaker 6: very nice.
Speaker 1: Every 'mical document that I've ever seen, all these al
Speaker 1: chemical manuscripts, they're very mysterious in their symbolism, but they
Speaker 1: all have certain commonalities, including there's always the sun and
Speaker 1: the moon involved, you know, and people always purely symbolic,
Speaker 1: but there's a lot more to it than because you know,
Speaker 1: the sun is of course plasmatic, and everything we eat
Speaker 1: is the sun everything right, right, So it's like we
Speaker 1: are quite literally the Sun embodied into a format. So
Speaker 1: there's a connection there. And mercurial figures throughout history are
Speaker 1: represented by mercury, which is meant to represent something that
Speaker 1: heats something so much that it annihilates it. It obliterates that
Speaker 1: you become the negrato or the primal substance, and you
Speaker 1: have to descend like a nana and into that state
Speaker 1: of complete annihilation before you can be rebirthed from lead
Speaker 1: into gold.
Speaker 3: And that's also Hermes, which is the internal traveler between
Speaker 3: heaven and Earth, so that and he has to do
Speaker 3: with mercury and plasma. In my opinion, you know the
Speaker 3: shoes with the wings he wears, so I think there's
Speaker 3: a lot there. And yeah, with the butterfly thing, there's
Speaker 3: not a it's not a coincidence that in every religion, Angels, Zoroastrianism,
Speaker 3: questl Cotal, they all have wings. That's our higher selves.
Speaker 3: It's us with wings, it's our expanded selves, and we're
Speaker 3: literally becoming heaven on Earth. We're becoming these wing beans.
Speaker 3: But guess what wings are. Our wings are our toroidal
Speaker 3: field that looks like wings, and it's us using our
Speaker 3: energy and our plasma energy, our key energy. That is
Speaker 3: what our wings are and we're learning how to use that.
Speaker 1: If you take the bio the magnetic field of a
Speaker 1: human being, which is a torus shape, and you take
Speaker 1: a two D cross section of that, that's that that's
Speaker 1: a great point. That's what that looks like. And if
Speaker 1: you take that cross section where the energy is around
Speaker 1: the head, around the taurus, Yeah, that might be where
Speaker 1: people started drawing that because if they're seeing these beings
Speaker 1: or even experiencing it seeing other people, you know, they
Speaker 1: just discovered science has discovered the bioluminescence that is apparently
Speaker 1: new to science, and they're all saying they're all on
Speaker 1: the Science channel talking about oh, this isn't to be
Speaker 1: confused with the aura, but instead it's actual biophotons. It's like,
Speaker 1: shut up, same story, different name.
Speaker 3: Yeah, really quick, I found my notes. I can't find
Speaker 3: the real good notes I had, but the difference I
Speaker 3: wrote down, So there is light that's electromagnetic radiation, and
Speaker 3: then there is an informational emission of plasma. So basically
Speaker 3: the difference I wrote between plasma and electricity is that
Speaker 3: electricity is more an informational imprint of the plasma.
Speaker 10: So it's kind of like mm hmm, what's a way
Speaker 10: to say this?
Speaker 3: Like plasma is almost carrying the electro magnetic if that
Speaker 3: makes sense. That doesn't really make sense. I feel like
Speaker 3: I'm not making sense.
Speaker 2: I I kind of get what you mean. Sure, that's
Speaker 2: what I was.
Speaker 3: Thinking anonymously together, one thing that's striking them.
Speaker 8: Maybe this is maybe this might help us decoded or
Speaker 8: figure it out further. Anyway, in simple terms, it makes me.
Speaker 8: It strikes me that you said it's an interdimensional energy
Speaker 8: and fractal too, But this interdimensional energy is really a
Speaker 8: distinguishing factor of it. And maybe it is the connection
Speaker 8: between the magic aspect of energy and the you know,
Speaker 8: the there seems to be this relationship with all these
Speaker 8: paranormal events where these there is this plasma activity too.
Speaker 8: I wonder if you might have seen anything about that
Speaker 8: inter dimensional nature seems to be like the really strikes
Speaker 8: me anyway. And I have an electrician friend and he
Speaker 8: admits electric they don't know what electricity is. They only
Speaker 8: know how to manipulate it and control it and do
Speaker 8: things with it. So it's it's a very grounded energy
Speaker 8: where it seems like the plasma is in its essence
Speaker 8: being interdimensional and yeah, something beyond grounded if you will.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, that's a great explanation. And yeah,
Speaker 3: I think they go. I think it's just like a
Speaker 3: mother and a father, like you can't have a child
Speaker 3: without an egg and as ferm like there's you know,
Speaker 3: and we've forgotten the mother part, which is the plasma.
Speaker 3: Like we're so focused on electric which is good, but
Speaker 3: we all also have to remember, you know, the womb
Speaker 3: of creation, this plasma energy, and how they work together
Speaker 3: to create reality. It's not just one or the other.
Speaker 3: It's not either. And what's more, important than that is
Speaker 3: the divine child, which is what they create, which is
Speaker 3: you know, whether it's matter or us as human beings,
Speaker 3: divine and the you know, children of God, whatever you
Speaker 3: want to call it. It's these two energies that create
Speaker 3: the third thing, and that all you know that we
Speaker 3: create a third thing with these two energies and with
Speaker 3: the paranormal stuff. So yeah, once again goes back to
Speaker 3: the vehicle of consciousness. It's like the way that everything
Speaker 3: visits us from you know, cryptis to shadow people, to angels,
Speaker 3: they're all they all have, just like us, a plasma
Speaker 3: layer around them, and plasma responds to your subconscious, your
Speaker 3: belief systems, your cultural memory bank. So things are going
Speaker 3: to come to you based on your own resonance. So
Speaker 3: if I'm in a state of fear or trauma, I'm
Speaker 3: going to see a demon, that same energy will come
Speaker 3: to me as an angel if I'm in a state
Speaker 3: of love and better yet, if I'm in a state
Speaker 3: of neutrality, I'll actually see past it subconscious reflection of
Speaker 3: this plasma reflecting layer, and I'll see to the truth
Speaker 3: of what that is, whether it is information or intelligence,
Speaker 3: like another being of consciousness, which to me have looked
Speaker 3: like holographic lights, like more fifth dimensional, and they have
Speaker 3: like ideas and downloads for me. Or there's what I
Speaker 3: call like informational like more fourth dimensional informational being, which
Speaker 3: is not conscious, but it may be a traumatic memory
Speaker 3: that's visiting me in the form of a demon like
Speaker 3: every movie ever made. So it can be quite mythological.
Speaker 3: But it's very good to decipher those two. But it's
Speaker 3: more of the meaning you create out of it. But yes,
Speaker 3: plasma surrounds all that plasmoids, plasma surrounding the aliens that
Speaker 3: are coming to us. Plasma just seems to be like
Speaker 3: this womb of creation. We're meant to co create with
Speaker 3: it to create meaning. If that makes it made any sense.
Speaker 1: It's like a tool that we're completely ignoring, and that
Speaker 1: is kind of concerning. Oh, I didn't really realize that
Speaker 1: about So like paranormal phenomenon, that's very interesting when it
Speaker 1: comes to plasma because if it get too close to
Speaker 1: a high radiation of plasma, it causes hallucinations. And yeah,
Speaker 1: just like Placebo and all these other we give it
Speaker 1: a word and then we call it understood, but we
Speaker 1: don't know what hallucinations are. So if you read these
Speaker 1: stories about people, you know, seeing ghosts or whatever, or
Speaker 1: alien abduction. In the case of Travis Walton, Travis Walton
Speaker 1: described seeing a plasma ball. That's how he that's what
Speaker 1: he called it. He went up to touch it, and
Speaker 1: then he was abducted by aliens, you know, so people
Speaker 1: call him crazy for years. I mean, even though he
Speaker 1: almost died, came back five days later, you know, emaciated,
Speaker 1: you know, But what I think he saw was his
Speaker 1: subconscious Yes, the archetype that he would use to describe
Speaker 1: something completely formless was filled in by his own amygdala
Speaker 1: totally order to make sense of it.
Speaker 3: Yes, And I've had those experiences and it could be
Speaker 3: quite offensive to someone who's an experiencer, But I'm an experiencer,
Speaker 3: and it's like, I'm not discounting any experiences. I'm just
Speaker 3: saying it completely interfaces with your own psyche, Like what
Speaker 3: better way for an intelgens to hire intelligence to come
Speaker 3: to us and help us work out our trauma, right,
Speaker 3: even though it feels traumatizing within itself, Like there's so
Speaker 3: much we're ignoring within ourselves. And sometimes these like high
Speaker 3: experiences of high strangeness happen to evolve us.
Speaker 10: It's just like it is just real. Life is a
Speaker 10: perfect training ground for this.
Speaker 3: Think about everyone you meet, guys, most of the people
Speaker 3: grow and evolve you and we keep we meet the
Speaker 3: same partner over and over that reflects your subconscious, reflects
Speaker 3: your mom and dad issues. Like this is just the
Speaker 3: same in this earth world than it is in the
Speaker 3: spirit world. And once you know you beat that final boss,
Speaker 3: you you know, you'll level up and you'll have different
Speaker 3: things come to you and you might have you know,
Speaker 3: when we work on our trauma, all of a sudden
Speaker 3: we start to attract better partners.
Speaker 10: This is the same in the spirit world.
Speaker 3: So you know, I just teach a lot about how
Speaker 3: we can have beautiful co creative experiences with these same
Speaker 3: energies that seem to be demonic, that are actually not
Speaker 3: at all, but they.
Speaker 10: Are like that, it is not fake, it's real.
Speaker 3: It is more fourth dimensional informational energy with this like
Speaker 3: archetypal costume on. But it also isn't real. It's real
Speaker 3: and it's not real. And really quickly with electricity, I
Speaker 3: figured it out. I found my note, electricity is real,
Speaker 3: but the light only exists when a circuit is completed.
Speaker 3: So it's kind of like electricity is like music. It's
Speaker 3: like a co creative relationship. So I think I'm saying
Speaker 3: that electricity happens when a relationship happens. I don't really
Speaker 3: know where to take that, but it's a very philosophical
Speaker 3: interesting thing and has to do a plasma somehow.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean in Cabada you could say that that
Speaker 6: is the light going through the past. So again it's
Speaker 6: never stopped somewhere. You can have like you don't stop
Speaker 6: at the sears, you go through them and so on
Speaker 6: it and you kind of base. You have the base that.
Speaker 5: You go from.
Speaker 6: And again not something you catch, you know, I can
Speaker 6: catch like me, I can just see it happen, like
Speaker 6: you said, like with music and something.
Speaker 5: And it's so fun, like just piking back to something.
Speaker 6: When you guys were talking about the sun and the
Speaker 6: moon again, a lot of Astera guys would.
Speaker 5: Say that all are our selves.
Speaker 6: The one that is, let's say, playing this character, it's
Speaker 6: gonna be stationed in the moon and the sun.
Speaker 5: That's like some kind of cord they can call it.
Speaker 6: Like silver cord, golden and that and that let's say
Speaker 6: the player is going to be there, so again you're
Speaker 6: connected through this kind of plasmatic thing which when you
Speaker 6: if you go in an actual travel you're going to
Speaker 6: see it and you can think of it as an
Speaker 6: ethernet cable.
Speaker 5: Yeah, connected like exactly. And then and then like yeah again,
Speaker 5: oh it just discovered it okay. And another thing was
Speaker 5: again when you when you start to think about how
Speaker 5: the when you were thinking about think about like angels
Speaker 5: and demos and whatever. Again you go you don't need
Speaker 5: to go out of your body because most people think
Speaker 5: going out of the body means you lose control of
Speaker 5: this one. And suddenly you are in a different place.
Speaker 6: No, I feel like close your eyes are now and
Speaker 6: starting to nag yourself in the place you are already
Speaker 6: out side.
Speaker 5: Out of your body. Right, you can keep the consciousness
Speaker 5: in this one as well, which just partialized, not compressionalized.
Speaker 6: And the thing is exactly what you see. It's going
Speaker 6: to be a projection of your own understanding of the thing.
Speaker 6: So if I see something scary and I think it's
Speaker 6: gonna harm me, it's gonna be I will call it
Speaker 6: a demon.
Speaker 5: Right, But then is it really.
Speaker 6: Like or is that just my projection onto the thing?
Speaker 6: And then again where that being came from. If I'm
Speaker 6: projecting that reality again, I'm in Portuguese would say plasm
Speaker 6: r so like plasming. I don't know if that's a
Speaker 6: word in English, Like they be actual plasmaing something. If
Speaker 6: you are the one plasming it, then who is creating that?
Speaker 6: Like again you're afraid of them that you are creating,
Speaker 6: Just go and like stop that creation, like don't create it,
Speaker 6: and then you're not gonna have You're not gonna be
Speaker 6: fearful of that, you know, That's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 6: And the more you have control of that, the better
Speaker 6: and the most the more beautiful the experiences are going
Speaker 6: to be. So a lot of people are going to
Speaker 6: talk a lot about like enthologians and psychedetics and whatever,
Speaker 6: and you know, one of them is aauasca, which so
Speaker 6: many people that go through these that are only in
Speaker 6: those places they're gonna say, oh yeahn't like they go
Speaker 6: and they have the experience, but it's always something like
Speaker 6: kind of quasi traumatical and it's hard and whatever, But
Speaker 6: that's just.
Speaker 5: Because they don't know what buttons to touch. Literally, if
Speaker 5: you know it, it's gonna be the most not saying
Speaker 5: go do it. Actually, don't go and do it. If
Speaker 5: you're listening right now, don't do it. But I'm saying,
Speaker 5: if you know what you're doing, it's the most beautiful
Speaker 5: thing ever because again, you know, you have more access
Speaker 5: to that place where which you can have access right now. Sober.
Speaker 6: It's just that your character, like its volume, it's loud.
Speaker 6: So when you take them something like that, like the
Speaker 6: volume of the character goes down, and then it's like, okay,
Speaker 6: I can create other stuff now, I can play around
Speaker 6: these other dimensions or whatever. And it's and again just
Speaker 6: so so nice and beautiful. It's cool, cool that you're
Speaker 6: doing that with the book. I'm definitely gonna have a look.
Speaker 10: Oh thank you.
Speaker 3: Well, I wanted to brill on what you said too,
Speaker 3: so like yes, like they I don't know where you
Speaker 3: said us, but really quick the.
Speaker 8: Aingering question. But am I coming through good?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Now you are? I think you're well, you're good now, Ethan,
Speaker 2: I think yeah. Sometimes there's a leg on him. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Ethan, I don't know. I don't know what
Speaker 2: happened to shit, Yes, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Well no, I was just going to say that, So
Speaker 3: there's actually in this book I was reading.
Speaker 10: There are these beings.
Speaker 3: They call themselves elemental beings, like fifth dimensional beings, and
Speaker 3: they say, we draw freely upon the powers of cosmic creativity.
Speaker 3: As we enter the etheric world, we may take on
Speaker 3: various forms which are provided by the imaginations of human beings.
Speaker 3: And I read this after my book, Like I read
Speaker 3: this like the other day, and I was like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, I fucking said that. But this was made
Speaker 3: way before I wrote it.
Speaker 10: So anyway, we're all plugged in the same thing.
Speaker 3: But basically it's like this fourth dimensional space I speak
Speaker 3: of this forty plasma is like this this layer of
Speaker 3: memory and emotion and thought, this astral realm is etheric realm,
Speaker 3: like below the five D. This is the paint that
Speaker 3: all these beings dip and come to us. And like
Speaker 3: they have to come through this layer before appearing to us.
Speaker 3: And it's like their costume layers. So yeah, they'll and
Speaker 3: when we're you know, whether we see angels or demons,
Speaker 3: these things are all real because we made them all real.
Speaker 3: They're in our stories, they're in our you know, there
Speaker 3: are energies that resonate with something inside of us. So
Speaker 3: if you're having a bad experience or you want to
Speaker 3: call on something like whatever that's going to resonate with
Speaker 3: something inside of you. So if you don't want a
Speaker 3: certain experience, don't look at what's out there, look at
Speaker 3: what's within you. Not within you that you have to kill,
Speaker 3: because I know there's a quote about that, but look
Speaker 3: at what there is within you to integrate and that'll
Speaker 3: kind of dissolve that resonance. Then you won't have those
Speaker 3: same experiences. And the more you cultivate a heaven within,
Speaker 3: you'll have a heaven without wow.
Speaker 1: In the Tibetan Book of the Dead, the main theme
Speaker 1: is that when you encounter these mara, which is their
Speaker 1: word for us ar consert demons, it's as literally as
Speaker 1: simple as recognizing them as a reflection of us, and
Speaker 1: the moment that we can realize that they are projected
Speaker 1: from us, they either evaporate or they transform according to
Speaker 1: your level of knowing that that is the case.
Speaker 3: Oh that's cool. I have to make a TikTok about that.
Speaker 1: But that's what makes it so Like what Matt is
Speaker 1: saying is like you got to no to press the
Speaker 1: right buttons, and it's very very true, but that can
Speaker 1: be very intimidating because we feel like we have to
Speaker 1: have this huge, extensive library of esoteric information in order
Speaker 1: to have a hand in anything. But just having that
Speaker 1: is the first step realizing that they're projected from our psyche.
Speaker 1: Is the power within you, Yeah, it's ninety percent of it.
Speaker 3: You don't need anyone to save you anymore. That's what
Speaker 3: I think is so amazing. And it's all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: like back in this to me days when they made,
Speaker 3: you know, the first kind of governmental establishment. They made
Speaker 3: these gods outside of them, these idols to worship because
Speaker 3: and these you know, places of religion that you would go,
Speaker 3: because they wanted you to go somewhere to worship, staying
Speaker 3: outside yourself, and that's that's how they controlled people. And
Speaker 3: you know, if we can teach humanity and remind me
Speaker 3: that you know, the power is within you. Yes, there
Speaker 3: are these things outside of you. There are things we
Speaker 3: can't control that happen in life. But it's once again,
Speaker 3: the meaning you create the powers that within you. Beauty
Speaker 3: is in the eye of the beholder. I think it
Speaker 3: gives people their power back and then capitalism consumers it
Speaker 3: won't really work anymore.
Speaker 1: That's the beauty of it is that we are all
Speaker 1: sovereign beings of our own stature and we can own that.
Speaker 1: And we've been hypnotized to think that we are on
Speaker 1: the tail end of some kind of hierarchy and or.
Speaker 3: We're in a simulation where everything, something's running us, And
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I don't think that's the case.
Speaker 10: Like, we're not in a simulation.
Speaker 3: We're in a living, breathing, flo hour of life that
Speaker 3: is a mergent where there's determinism and free will and
Speaker 3: we get to choose where, Yes, things outside of us
Speaker 3: we can't control. That's deterministic. Things happen in life that
Speaker 3: you can't control.
Speaker 10: That our mystery.
Speaker 3: And then you control the meaning you make out of it,
Speaker 3: and you make choices. That is our free will. Our
Speaker 3: free will is our choice. I know Ethan had a
Speaker 3: question and near back on, Well.
Speaker 8: Yes, excuse me for stumbling through my internet internet connection.
Speaker 8: I was wondering about in relation to light, that that
Speaker 8: light has the quality of particles and waves. I wonder
Speaker 8: does plasma have a similar duality, if you will, or
Speaker 8: is it as I'm kind of gathering, it can be
Speaker 8: a cloud, it can be a particle, It can be
Speaker 8: a line, uh, you know, a power connection stream or
Speaker 8: a globe. Maybe maybe can you can you break that
Speaker 8: down between like the light particle and wave?
Speaker 3: I would love to, And then Joy, I would love
Speaker 3: your opinion on this too. So I would actually call
Speaker 3: it more of like a fractal and more holographic. So
Speaker 3: I think it could be a rainbow, serpent, it could
Speaker 3: be anything, right, So, yes, the particle right now is
Speaker 3: you know a way light is a particle in a wave.
Speaker 3: But there's very recent study about dark photons where they
Speaker 3: actually think like light is not even a wave anymore,
Speaker 3: it's just either a dark photon or a light photon.
Speaker 3: And I actually think they're wrong too. I don't think
Speaker 3: particles even exist. I think there are just points of interference.
Speaker 3: I think it's more like field fearing, even beyond fields.
Speaker 3: It's like a quintessence, right, the fifth essence. It's almost
Speaker 3: like this. It's like I see it as a neutral
Speaker 3: kind of you could call it a particle, but a
Speaker 3: neutral holographic spheral that can just kind of change and
Speaker 3: shape shift based on our consciousness and as always working
Speaker 3: on our consciousness. Right, So I see plasma as just
Speaker 3: like this fractal shape, shifting liquid almost like flubber, and
Speaker 3: it's kind of neutral. As I said, events outside of
Speaker 3: us are all neutral, and what creates meaning with it
Speaker 3: is consciousness, So consciousness colors it. That could be on
Speaker 3: a collective, which is why you know our world isn't
Speaker 3: going to change in two seconds, because we're all believing
Speaker 3: it together as a collective kind of dream, but a
Speaker 3: reality dream. And the more people that believe something, the
Speaker 3: more the world will change. And then individually, maybe you
Speaker 3: can make smaller changes but still create a ripple that
Speaker 3: can change the world, right, because you could influence the beliefs,
Speaker 3: which is why I think being a philosopher is so important.
Speaker 3: You can make a change to something small like in magic,
Speaker 3: or use a group of people to make larger changes.
Speaker 10: But yeah, that's what I have to say about that.
Speaker 1: Agree one hundred percent, and in almost a scientific way.
Speaker 1: I think Ethan's question is important because when we describe
Speaker 1: plasma as being the finest state of matter, it then
Speaker 1: comes that concept of it it must be very light
Speaker 1: and fluffy, but it's not. Think, it's just a completely
Speaker 1: different type of existence. So plasma can be very dense,
Speaker 1: it can be more dense than solid matter, because I mean,
Speaker 1: our sun is plasmatic, so the sun is as dense
Speaker 1: as you get, like a spoonful of the sun is
Speaker 1: going to be as heavy as a building is on Earth.
Speaker 1: So it takes on so many forms that it's it's
Speaker 1: quite literally the costume for which God seems to come through, you.
Speaker 10: Know, God's hand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, that's beautiful.
Speaker 8: It reminds me of the undefined in mathematics, the fourth operation.
Speaker 8: If you divide zero by zero, you get an undefined
Speaker 8: and in that respect, the fourth and the fourth energy
Speaker 8: of plasma. Right, it's it can be whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and even more. And that is actually I need
Speaker 3: to do video on that too. You guys are going
Speaker 3: to be too many ideas. Something even interesting about above
Speaker 3: the number four in complexity theory is like you need
Speaker 3: five levels of something for really complexity to arise. Does
Speaker 3: anyone know what I'm talking about right now? Otherwise I'm
Speaker 3: gonna google it?
Speaker 1: But basically, yeah, I know, that's that's true.
Speaker 8: And to that point, we can count immediately four things,
Speaker 8: but we need to actually perform perform the physical counting
Speaker 8: of more than four.
Speaker 3: So that's where my plasma comes in. It's like the
Speaker 3: fifth essence or quintessence, or it's like this finer plasma,
Speaker 3: this ether beyond the four states of matter that exists
Speaker 3: in that way, and that's how I believe that, that's
Speaker 3: why I think we have life on Earth. I think
Speaker 3: that there needed to be that fifth complexity, that it's
Speaker 3: not just you know, fire, earth, air wind, or whatever
Speaker 3: the four elements are. There's also the ether which creates
Speaker 3: the complexity of a human, which is the Leonardo da
Speaker 3: Vinci five pointed.
Speaker 13: Yeah, Yeah, that's crazy, because if that's the case, and
Speaker 13: it certainly seems to be, that would explain the fall
Speaker 13: of Sophia, a gnosticism that there had to be that
Speaker 13: fifth level of complexity.
Speaker 1: In order for pure consciousness to experience itself or anything
Speaker 1: at all, there had to be something outside of it.
Speaker 1: And in order to experience something outside of pure consciousness,
Speaker 1: it would have to forget first that it did, that
Speaker 1: it created that extension of itself to be able to
Speaker 1: exist or to experience itself existing at all in the
Speaker 1: first place. And in that light, it almost seems as
Speaker 1: if the fall of Sophia, and almost adjacent to what
Speaker 1: the gnostics say, that physical matter, that the material world
Speaker 1: is not necessarily evil or anything of a bad connotation,
Speaker 1: but simply of pure consciousness forgetting that it is in
Speaker 1: order to just to be I'm gain to download yees.
Speaker 3: So that actually so in there's a legend of Tiamat
Speaker 3: where consciousness or man cut up a dragon in a
Speaker 3: bunch of peaches and split it between him and Earth
Speaker 3: because they were scared of it. So the fact that
Speaker 3: the material world in desire was dark and evil only
Speaker 3: happened with religion because I think that they were scared
Speaker 3: of the feminine and the power and the magic.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and the first.
Speaker 3: Legend of that is Tiama, and then it goes into
Speaker 3: everything from like Colli the god is, to this evil siren,
Speaker 3: to desire and Buddhism being bad, and it's like none
Speaker 3: of these things are actually bad. We're supposed to love
Speaker 3: our human experience. We don't need to be enlightened. We'll
Speaker 3: be enlightened when we die, Like who cares. It's about it.
Speaker 3: And something with the fall that I think is very interesting,
Speaker 3: and same with magic. If you say words backwards, the
Speaker 3: fall is just laugh right, It's like the cosmic joke.
Speaker 3: It's like huh, like yeah, the cosmic got it? Yeah,
Speaker 3: you just have to you just have to laugh and
Speaker 3: when you yeah, just realizing that like yeah, nothing that
Speaker 3: we thought is evil is evil, Like evil's human created,
Speaker 3: it's you know, neutral.
Speaker 14: And yeah, the way Ramdas used to describe when people
Speaker 14: would come up to him and be like, you know,
Speaker 14: Earth is a school and blah blah blah, he'd be like, yeah,
Speaker 14: that's great, you should try taking the curriculum then, because
Speaker 14: people are so quick to have this kind of Luciferian
Speaker 14: mindset to where they're like this, this earth.
Speaker 1: Realm is a ghetto and I live in the higher
Speaker 1: realms and like, we'll get your feetback on the ground
Speaker 1: because we need you in here, you know me no
Speaker 1: I said like that. Rhamdas would tell people who are
Speaker 1: living up here in the spiritual realms, you know, he'd
Speaker 1: be like, we'll get back down here. You know, we
Speaker 1: need your we need boots on the ground. Like if
Speaker 1: you're if Earth is a school, then try taking the curriculum.
Speaker 15: Yeah the way he described right, Yeah, and if you
Speaker 15: think about it like that, evil doesn't necessarily mean this
Speaker 15: like this half and half dualistic.
Speaker 1: This is good, this is bad. It's a man made concept.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, if everything came from this
Speaker 1: primordial source that wants to split off from itself, have
Speaker 1: amnesia and then experience self, then then evil is just
Speaker 1: how far removed you are from that from that source.
Speaker 1: And then like Matt's uh that funnel that he showed, uh,
Speaker 1: which I forgot the name of it, but it would
Speaker 1: be right, okay, So the further down that consciousness descends
Speaker 1: through those spheres down into it would probably be I mean,
Speaker 1: the bottom of that tree of that sephar is probably
Speaker 1: associated with evil, but not necessarily define.
Speaker 6: That all the all the spheres have their shuttle, so
Speaker 6: have their their where the like then be contained and
Speaker 6: that becomes the the that the destructive thing. But once
Speaker 6: again you need both, right, Like you need something that creates,
Speaker 6: something that destroys, something that maintains. That's the basic. Otherwise,
Speaker 6: if you just have something that creates, you cannot there's
Speaker 6: gonna be too much. There's gonna be too many things.
Speaker 6: You can destroy some thinking and create something new, you're
Speaker 6: going to have just the same of everything and so
Speaker 6: much of it. So you need again the three. And
Speaker 6: if we're go into like what exactly a lot of
Speaker 6: people call evil is just going to be things that
Speaker 6: are against them, like a lot of deasons are just exactly,
Speaker 6: they're just the gods of the guys that I'm against.
Speaker 6: So they're demons for me, but for them they're they're
Speaker 6: the gods and so on. So or like that, the
Speaker 6: church would be against some rich guys that.
Speaker 5: They don't want to pay the tribus and whatever. Yet
Speaker 5: now they're demons or someone.
Speaker 3: Used to date who you think is a demon, but
Speaker 3: they're actually really not, but you see them as a
Speaker 3: demon to you, they are a deman you secretly know
Speaker 3: like maybe they're probably not.
Speaker 1: But most relatable ever.
Speaker 3: But my one is with evil, with evil's fear, evil's
Speaker 3: human created. It is fear, and what helps that bringing
Speaker 3: curiosity to it. Doesn't mean we need to steepen evil
Speaker 3: or worship evil. I would never say that, but it's like,
Speaker 3: bring curiosity to the things that scare you. It doesn't
Speaker 3: mean you have to wallow in them. It just means
Speaker 3: geturious about what it triggers in you.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and that kind of makes death a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: If you think about that, you know, uh, life cannot
Speaker 1: exist without it. I mean that's of course, But at
Speaker 1: the same time, if nothing died, there'd.
Speaker 12: Be no room for things to grow, evolve, change, and
Speaker 12: and emerge because it'd be a real crowded universe if
Speaker 12: there was no entropy involved.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that cycle of things makes things special, It makes
Speaker 1: things worth experiencing. Because if you have the same cheeseburger
Speaker 1: every day, it doesn't matter how good it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it gets it gets old, and.
Speaker 3: We don't need And the thing is, yeah, we'll die
Speaker 3: to this personality experience. But then well we'll bring our individuality.
Speaker 3: I think I think our individuality goes on forever, even
Speaker 3: if it's not like in this data ego like I
Speaker 3: still I think even I think it's still contrasted even
Speaker 3: at this fifth dimensional level. I don't think we usurp
Speaker 3: what's the word, like, go all back into the all.
Speaker 3: I think there's a slight bit of us still in
Speaker 3: there and we're experiencing different levels. So yeah, I don't
Speaker 3: think we actually do. Yeah, ever die die in that way.
Speaker 3: It's just my opinion.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And even if you think about in terms of
Speaker 6: how you would define that, we die every day. Every
Speaker 6: day you go to sleep, you die, and another you
Speaker 6: wakes up every second. If you didn't die, you would
Speaker 6: be a baby until now. Yeah, like thirty years old. Baby,
Speaker 6: you know you have to die as a baby and
Speaker 6: so on and become a kid and become a teenager
Speaker 6: and become an adult and otherwise you're gonna be the
Speaker 6: same shit over and over.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Sorry, I was gonna say I interrupted you. I apologize.
Speaker 3: It's like the sun setting, but really, if it sets,
Speaker 3: it's still always there.
Speaker 10: We just don't see it perfect.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the beauty, the beauty of a sunset comes from
Speaker 1: it going away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's always with you, which is important because
Speaker 3: everyone you lose, it's that sun. You know, it's the moon.
Speaker 3: It's always there, and sometimes it'll show up in the
Speaker 3: day randomly and you're like, what the fuck is happening?
Speaker 1: Right, that's a that's a fucking really nice way to
Speaker 1: look at at sunsets and death in general. That it
Speaker 1: just makes it that much more beautiful. It's it makes
Speaker 1: it that much more special.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't want to die, like I
Speaker 3: love my life. Like I think I think your fear
Speaker 3: of death is actually your love of life, which is
Speaker 3: really cool. Sometimes I think I'm all depressed and then
Speaker 3: I'm like wait, but like, if I'm scared, so scared
Speaker 3: to die. It means I really must love life, So
Speaker 3: let me connect with.
Speaker 1: That more well. And not to bring up the Book
Speaker 1: of the Dead again, but it rings true here that
Speaker 1: and if we want to leave the wheel of some
Speaker 1: sorrow or what the Gnostics would call, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the earth realm, Yeah, what you know Egyptians called the
Speaker 1: green you know, Uh, we can, but we have to
Speaker 1: be without attachments to it. And that's the hardest part
Speaker 1: is whenever supposedly the Buddhists call them hungry ghosts, if
Speaker 1: you die and your electromagnetic plasmatic self, your real self
Speaker 1: is still attached to someone or something in this realm,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna it's not going to shoot up through
Speaker 1: the firmament, so to speak, like it should. You're not
Speaker 1: going to transcend that that that orbit of Saturn, you know,
Speaker 1: the arch rule. If you have attachments here, you gotta
Speaker 1: we have to learn to be able to let those
Speaker 1: things go. And that's kind of the concept of enjoying
Speaker 1: a flower without picking it out of the ground, you know, I.
Speaker 3: Will I'll add to that a little bit. I think that,
Speaker 3: like I've heard from a lot of near death experiences too,
Speaker 3: and it's really relates I think that, and this relates
Speaker 3: to magic what you you leave here with attachments, because
Speaker 3: I actually don't think attachments are bad. I think they're okay.
Speaker 3: But I think it's true when you leave here, you
Speaker 3: bring everything with you. So the work you do on
Speaker 3: yourself here you do bring with you, and what you
Speaker 3: believe in you bring with you, and then you bring
Speaker 3: that into the other realms. So if you believe that
Speaker 3: everything sucks and very negative here, you also that will
Speaker 3: reflect in the plasma of the fourth dimension, maybe in
Speaker 3: different ways. But that's why it's so important to work
Speaker 3: on ourselves here. Because what we believe will see Jesus
Speaker 3: when we die, if we believe in Buddhism, will see
Speaker 3: Buddha when we die.
Speaker 10: This has happened to people, you know.
Speaker 3: I believe in whatever I believe, it'll reflect off the
Speaker 3: plasma hologram when I die, and we'll live in that
Speaker 3: belief system and then we might learn to transcend it
Speaker 3: in some other dimensions.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 10: But I think in that way, we bring our attachments
Speaker 10: with us.
Speaker 3: So it's you know, the more clear you can get here,
Speaker 3: the more you'll be able to consciously die in that way.
Speaker 3: And maybe like if I believe I create reality, then
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have a great time when I die, right,
Speaker 3: I believe I'm you know, down to certain things. I'm
Speaker 3: going to suffer a little bit more.
Speaker 16: That great brings with great clear think about it like this,
Speaker 16: Oh sorry, well, ancient Egyptian tombs, like the actual tomb,
Speaker 16: and of course we know that the Pyramids weren't them,
Speaker 16: but they do have access to Egyptian tombs.
Speaker 17: These pharaohs were buried with all of their favorite cats,
Speaker 17: their favorite pets, their favorite Yes, yeah, they went into
Speaker 17: the afterlife with them, which is of course to science
Speaker 17: that's debatable.
Speaker 1: But you know what, those guys built the therapem, so
Speaker 1: they were onto something.
Speaker 6: You know what's funny is that here in this body
Speaker 6: we are kind of nerves.
Speaker 5: So it's like nerve.
Speaker 6: You imagine something, you you'll put the emotion, you put
Speaker 6: the ing and whatever the thought it. Like if I
Speaker 6: imagine like a gold box, it's not gonna just for
Speaker 6: most people. Some some yogis can do that, but that's
Speaker 6: another story. So we're kind of nerves to here. But
Speaker 6: when you're out of this in your imagination, you can
Speaker 6: create things like this. I can create a two thousand
Speaker 6: quadrillion like gold boxes. So I imagine exactly, imagine when
Speaker 6: you get out of this, how it's going to be
Speaker 6: sure controlled your merkavot. You're gonna like it's gonna ride
Speaker 6: all places, every place, and then like you said, it's
Speaker 6: gonna connect to whatever you feel like you're going to go.
Speaker 6: Like there are some people who are still in their
Speaker 6: tombs waiting for whatever you're rating, like for Jesus to
Speaker 6: return to whatever. And they're there and maybe parts of
Speaker 6: them are trying to wake up, wake them up, like, bro,
Speaker 6: come on, there's more stuff to do. Get the fuck
Speaker 6: yes away from there, and they're like no, they don't
Speaker 6: even listen, like they're just you know, unconscious.
Speaker 5: You can you can actually see that if.
Speaker 6: You go out of the body and go to some
Speaker 6: tombs and whatever, you can see that happen, which is
Speaker 6: again people with the consciousness so like ingrained in that
Speaker 6: idea that it doesn't change even when they supposed to die,
Speaker 6: or people still living the same life they were living
Speaker 6: before they died, because they think that they don't they
Speaker 6: didn't even realize but they died, so they're just going
Speaker 6: about their day thinking about it and so on and
Speaker 6: they didn't realize, okay, that they're going through walls and.
Speaker 1: Shit, that's about the scariest thing I can think of.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it'll be fine.
Speaker 10: I think we're all good.
Speaker 3: Also with what you just said that going back to
Speaker 3: saying how we are evolving in the plasma, this is
Speaker 3: the whole reason. I think book was kind of like
Speaker 3: given to me from the ethers, I guess or I
Speaker 3: co created it. We are, just like we can in
Speaker 3: these other levels, learning how to materialize right away, and
Speaker 3: some Tibetan Buddhist can and stuff. That is what I
Speaker 3: think humanity is being called to do. And these plasmoids
Speaker 3: are trying to show us, these UFOs. I think the
Speaker 3: sole reason they're coming to us is like, look what
Speaker 3: we can do with plasma using our consciousness. You can
Speaker 3: do it too. You don't need a machine, you don't
Speaker 3: need something outside of you. And I think we're evolving
Speaker 3: to learn how to materialize things quicker in our lives,
Speaker 3: and I think it's happening to some people already, And
Speaker 3: this is why we must learn how to evolve and
Speaker 3: expand our consciousness, because if we have these negative points
Speaker 3: of view, they will materialize a lot quicker too, And
Speaker 3: that is just you have to take accountability for your
Speaker 3: own mind because things are speeding up and we you know,
Speaker 3: with our power, you know, it can be our own
Speaker 3: heaven or our hell, and we have to really take
Speaker 3: accountability for the fact that we're co creating that with
Speaker 3: our higher self. And if we are in a negative mindsetate,
Speaker 3: we're going to create our own health. And it doesn't
Speaker 3: mean we can't have negative emotions. It's very important to
Speaker 3: have negative emotions and feel sad and grief, and we
Speaker 3: need to have the rainbow of emotions. But having a
Speaker 3: higher perspective when you're having those emotions and feeling them fully,
Speaker 3: that doesn't dictate your life. You can feel the myriad
Speaker 3: of emotions and still know I'm still abundant, I'm still
Speaker 3: going to create an amazing life, and I'm having a
Speaker 3: human experience in this moment and feeling emotions.
Speaker 10: But those things are very important.
Speaker 18: Yeah, And an important point to add to that is sometimes,
Speaker 18: and I'm guilty of this, when we feel those really
Speaker 18: uncomfortable feelings, we like to cover it up, whether it
Speaker 18: be you know, alcohol, drugs, right, simulation, right, scrolling on
Speaker 18: our phone and plasma. Yeah, those that will resurface later
Speaker 18: when you're at your job interview. You know, so when
Speaker 18: you feel it, go ahead and feel it right here, right.
Speaker 1: Now, so that it doesn't kick you in your butt later.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, very well, so very well said.
Speaker 2: So it sounds like someone's music's playing.
Speaker 1: Oh I'll back yeaheah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like a singing bowl in the background.
Speaker 3: Again I hear that too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, first, it kind of fits.
Speaker 1: I've always got those little thicker frequencies.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it sounded that I had.
Speaker 1: It was like it's five to eight, So good news.
Speaker 1: It's good for everyone, I think, but I forgot about it.
Speaker 4: Everybody's else is going to be believing later, all right,
Speaker 4: I think I probably got to start wrapping it up
Speaker 4: right for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm having fun. I mean I
Speaker 3: wanted to get lunch at by one pm, and is
Speaker 3: twelve thirty my time, So I'm okay for twenty minutes.
Speaker 3: But whatever you guys want.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, is already Matt or I think Ethan was
Speaker 4: frozen again.
Speaker 2: Matt was everything that you.
Speaker 1: I got a little thing if I can poke in
Speaker 1: really yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we were.
Speaker 1: Talking about things don't manifest immediately here in the earth realm,
Speaker 1: but you know it does upstairs. And I like to
Speaker 1: compare this to the dream state. You know, whenever you're dreaming,
Speaker 1: everything in your dream world is made of the same substance,
Speaker 1: just pure dream substance, whatever that is, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: we don't know, but that reminds me of like the
Speaker 1: Brama and the Hindu idea that we all live within
Speaker 1: the the dream of the Brama. So you know, when
Speaker 1: he opens his eyes, the world ceases to exist because
Speaker 1: we are characters in his dream. We are like literally
Speaker 1: the plasmatic nature of the electricity within the so called
Speaker 1: brain of the Brama. But there's there's scholars and alchemists
Speaker 1: and and these occultures from all over history that didn't
Speaker 1: necessarily have words in tune with Hindu ideas, is that
Speaker 1: talk about these same things. So I got this light quessify. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Andrew Collins, who was an absolute prick in real life,
Speaker 1: but he does.
Speaker 2: Good work, and yeah he told us that story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, so I met him once, but it was
Speaker 3: a very short interaction.
Speaker 10: I don't like him.
Speaker 3: He can be childish too, but he has a very
Speaker 3: serious nature or something like very Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 10: Go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 1: Maybe I shouldn't go into it again, but I sent
Speaker 1: them whole cluest story.
Speaker 3: The book's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, long story short. I sent some fan mail
Speaker 1: and he told me that he was not impressed with
Speaker 1: I have seven of his books, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I got damn near all your books. He was like,
Speaker 1: he's like, load's missing, no caps, no punctuation. I was
Speaker 1: about to invite him on the show, and then I
Speaker 1: was like, nah, because I sent him fan mail first.
Speaker 1: That's how I do it.
Speaker 3: Mees yeah.
Speaker 1: And then a week later he's like, hey man, and
Speaker 1: then he clicked on me and realized something I didn't.
Speaker 3: But I had a similar situation, by the way, with
Speaker 3: Bruce Lipton, and this is like he is the nicest
Speaker 3: man ever, but he's really like what, Like I try
Speaker 3: to tell my theory and he's like, wrong, this is
Speaker 3: how it is. And I would I try and my
Speaker 3: mind be compassionate because I'm so strong in my theories
Speaker 3: and I'm sure I've told people they're wrong, but now
Speaker 3: I see how a bunch of a negative experience it is,
Speaker 3: and like, who am I to tell anyone they're wrong?
Speaker 3: So it was a great humbling learning experience for me
Speaker 3: of like, no, everyone's right because everyone's truth is their truth,
Speaker 3: and if anyone asked me their opinion, I'm just not
Speaker 3: going to fucking answer them because that's their magic and
Speaker 3: I'm not going to put it out.
Speaker 7: But anyway, maybe, well, truth is subjective and we all
Speaker 7: need to come to terms with You just made a
Speaker 7: short recently talking about science is talking about how physics
Speaker 7: isn't localized.
Speaker 1: It's not local so truth and like the literal fabric,
Speaker 1: the nature of reality itself might be updating consciously. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of butchering your short a little bit, but
Speaker 1: that's how it is. If that's that, if that's what's
Speaker 1: going on there, that makes truth purely subjective.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why you're doing Yeah, I didn't butcher anything that
Speaker 3: was very yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And the Bruce Lipton sounds like he's got the
Speaker 1: Dunning Krueger or something like that. Because I'll tell you this,
Speaker 1: and I'll stand by this, I've never met anyone dumber
Speaker 1: than a person who knows what the fuck is going on.
Speaker 1: Like someone who will tell you that they know the
Speaker 1: facts and they know how everything is are usually so
Speaker 1: skewered that you know, but in closed minded. But all right,
Speaker 1: So like this guy Fazzio Cardnando Cardnano, fourteen forty four,
Speaker 1: he's like this hermeticist mathematician, he's like a renaissance man.
Speaker 1: Talked about he had a vision of these beings, these
Speaker 1: light beings who came to him, just like Zarathustra had his.
Speaker 3: History communion with the Elo him like.
Speaker 1: The same damn story. But he talks about this is
Speaker 1: a quote. The tallest of them denied that God had
Speaker 1: made the world from eternity. On the contrary, the other
Speaker 1: added that God created it from moment to moment like
Speaker 1: a dream. I added, like, and so that he should desist,
Speaker 1: for an instant world would perish. This is the story
Speaker 1: of the Brahma from a damn hermeticist from fourteen forty four.
Speaker 1: You know all these things are connected.
Speaker 5: Yes, most definitely. And think about it this way.
Speaker 6: Just like a video whatever you're if people are watching
Speaker 6: out on YouTube, right, the video is just a sequence
Speaker 6: of images. Every frame that could be a second, there's
Speaker 6: a new image.
Speaker 5: It's me doing this, this and this, and we are
Speaker 5: speaking and so on. Except that's how it's out free then, but.
Speaker 6: Then the reality we experienced, it's exactly the same moment
Speaker 6: by moment you are projecting the next frame.
Speaker 5: The thing is, we become autumatons. We do the.
Speaker 6: Same thing over and over the same days, do the
Speaker 6: same things, and so I'm so it becomes kind of
Speaker 6: a REPETI and we don't even realize the amount of
Speaker 6: detail that is around us. And how you maybe don't
Speaker 6: even see something because again it's there, but you're not
Speaker 6: projecting it into your vision. And the moment you start
Speaker 6: changing that projection, not only first through the imagination, but
Speaker 6: then through the feelings, emotion and thoughts, it's when your
Speaker 6: reality starts to change. That's literally the quantum jump. You
Speaker 6: want to do the reality surfing, whatever you want to
Speaker 6: call it, like, you have to project something else. And
Speaker 6: even if we want to speak about like broadly, you know,
Speaker 6: for a lot of people because for example, if you
Speaker 6: ask many people will say, oh, the sky is blue.
Speaker 6: But if you make at least like thirty three percent
Speaker 6: ish people believe that the sky is actually purple, it's
Speaker 6: going to become purple. That's it really class means the thing,
Speaker 6: and that's how it goes. If we think some animal
Speaker 6: is like extinct, it will become extinct.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then some amount of extinction when we stop
Speaker 3: telling that story, which is literally happening.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So so again you get you've got to create your stories.
Speaker 6: If you stay the whole day just watching TV and
Speaker 6: listen to the radio and then on Twitter reading like war.
Speaker 5: Stories, guess what those are become real.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you just nowadays you just need like an
Speaker 6: AI image to make people believe, and they're gonna put
Speaker 6: their cloths and energy and emotion. They're going to talk
Speaker 6: about it and so on, and their life is shit
Speaker 6: and they don't realize because they're not creating their own stories.
Speaker 5: They're just following someone else.
Speaker 6: That's why I love you know, that's why I love terror,
Speaker 6: because you just get all those symbols and they're pretty
Speaker 6: like the system it was built for that, and you
Speaker 6: get that system, the terror, and you use it to
Speaker 6: create the stories to realize, oh, that story is not cool.
Speaker 6: Let me like morse again, do something else? Exactly, Hey, exactly, Like.
Speaker 1: Because we quit talking about it in the late nineties, exactly, wow,
Speaker 1: all what.
Speaker 3: We focus on. That's why when people tell me like,
Speaker 3: aren't you so scared of this stay of the world
Speaker 3: or what's going to happen? I'm like now I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna dream and an optimistic futurist because that's the.
Speaker 10: Only way we're going to have a good state of
Speaker 10: the world. So all of you shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1: There's always a new end of the world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's always there's always bad things happening and it's horrible.
Speaker 3: And it doesn't mean I'm discounting that. It just means that, like,
Speaker 3: why if we're going to tell a story and perpetuate that,
Speaker 3: can we There's just as much good things going on,
Speaker 3: so can we not please put more focus into those things?
Speaker 3: And then also like yes, and then if there's bad things,
Speaker 3: then go do something about it or shut up, like
Speaker 3: I'm not going to talk about something if I'm not
Speaker 3: going to go do something about it, you know. And
Speaker 3: it's still you could pray for people and hope they're
Speaker 3: okay and stuff, and you know, the world is not
Speaker 3: fair and that's annoying.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: What I'm kind of realizing from that is that America
Speaker 1: has all the mass shootings. That's like, that's what we're
Speaker 1: known for, and that's what the news, right, that's what
Speaker 1: the news is insisting is happening. And then a perpetuation
Speaker 1: cycle happens.
Speaker 3: Yes, and then more kids see it and do it too.
Speaker 3: It's like if it wasn't talked about, they wouldn't even
Speaker 3: think they wo being their idea.
Speaker 10: You know, wow to do it that you know?
Speaker 3: And I just want to say really quick about this
Speaker 3: is I want to go back to the people we're
Speaker 3: just talking about, like the Bruce Litans and Andrew Collins
Speaker 3: and stuff, because it is interesting. This goes back to
Speaker 3: evil and thinking people are evil that probably aren't. I
Speaker 3: think when we have experiences with someone, we have to
Speaker 3: we have to neutralize it and give it not It
Speaker 3: doesn't mean we have to be we discernment and decide
Speaker 3: we don't want them in our space. But it goes
Speaker 3: back to the plasma stuff and they're reflecting stuff and
Speaker 3: certain things might trigger us because people can have off days.
Speaker 3: And I was thinking for me too, like there's so
Speaker 3: many people I don't answer. They probably hate me and
Speaker 3: think I'm evil and I literally don't have the time
Speaker 3: to answer, and I know I'm a good person. Or
Speaker 3: it's like you know, me telling someone in the beginning
Speaker 3: like oh I do think you're wrong, or I was
Speaker 3: critiquing them because they were asking for my critique. Like
Speaker 3: maybe at least what I know about Andrew is like,
Speaker 3: if you ask him your'ror for a critique, he'll fucking
Speaker 3: give you a critique and it doesn't mean it isn't
Speaker 3: like you. So it's just like my thought is maybe
Speaker 3: to like rainbow fan that out a little bit and
Speaker 3: see where like our attachment started, why it's triggering us,
Speaker 3: and then try to see the real.
Speaker 10: Person through that and understand them a little more just
Speaker 10: the thought.
Speaker 3: And I like you though when that happens to me,
Speaker 3: I'd be like, fuck that motherfucker. But then then I'll
Speaker 3: think more about it.
Speaker 1: And I can't ignore the man dude, I mean his
Speaker 1: whole uh philosophy on signess.
Speaker 3: Yeah, talking to him again is my point from a
Speaker 3: different point of view, like maybe like at least from
Speaker 3: what I know, his personality is a little bit more
Speaker 3: like aspurgery in that way where he's just very blunt,
Speaker 3: which like, now that you know that about him, try
Speaker 3: to approach him in a different way with a bit
Speaker 3: of shielding for your own for our own sensitivities, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to start using the word aspergery that guy.
Speaker 3: I'm assburgery.
Speaker 1: I think everyone in on this panel is asp by
Speaker 1: a little bit.
Speaker 3: I'm totally I test on the autism. So yeah, that's
Speaker 3: why I feel like I could say it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 3: And autism satrum by the way they just came out
Speaker 3: with this, there's like women are actually very well good
Speaker 3: socially who are autistic, but they have like you know,
Speaker 3: I've had, you know, tantruoms. I'm very black and white
Speaker 3: with things. If things don't go a certain way, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I have special interests. I talk with my hands. But
Speaker 3: then I'm also very good socially, and everyone's like, you're not,
Speaker 3: you don't have autism. I'm like, yeah, I think I.
Speaker 3: But it's autism has just being a multi dimensional human
Speaker 3: who's like a neurodivergent and like against the grain. And
Speaker 3: then you know there's more serious forms of autism that
Speaker 3: start to affect functioning in life, and you know there
Speaker 3: it's a spectrum, it is my point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then they're all wizards, right right, And well
Speaker 1: we're wizards and everyone's got their own facts of genius
Speaker 1: and everyone's got their own I always say I got
Speaker 1: this from Jim Gaffigan. But and I say it all
Speaker 1: the time, he says, I bet you the ten best
Speaker 1: pole voltures in the world have no idea that they
Speaker 1: are because we grow up in a world where they
Speaker 1: tell us what to do and where to sit and
Speaker 1: where to clock in, and we're not out here exploring
Speaker 1: what our talents naturally might be. So what happens as
Speaker 1: a result of that is this thing called autism, which
Speaker 1: is a real thing, gets extended out to people who
Speaker 1: are just eclectic, talented or quiet types like yeah.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think I'm just eclectic.
Speaker 1: I mean, but that's what makes it a spectrum too.
Speaker 1: But the where it becomes an issue is whenever people
Speaker 1: insist that it has to be corrected so that you
Speaker 1: can business or you need medication.
Speaker 3: Yes, because instead it's not about medicating things. I think
Speaker 3: it's about one once again understanding the gifts of these things.
Speaker 3: It's like the movie mystery Men, where their weaknesses actually
Speaker 3: become their superpower.
Speaker 1: Oh that's interesting, like the shadow archetype.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the mystery Men movie is about a bunch of
Speaker 3: like weirdos who have like, you know, one guy is
Speaker 3: like a power of like farts. I don't even know
Speaker 3: they're like it's like Ben stillers and it's a really
Speaker 3: crazy movie. They're like fanty heroes. But you know, their
Speaker 3: weaknesses become your strengths. And at least for me that's true.
Speaker 3: Not the fart thing, but my ex boyfriends are going
Speaker 3: to start reading about that.
Speaker 1: But farts plasm it's amazing.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 6: And you know, you know what's funny, Like again, if
Speaker 6: we come back to the story telling kind of thing,
Speaker 6: if you get any story that you told yourself that
Speaker 6: you know that was ship or get the emotion out
Speaker 6: of it. You know, if it was like frustration and whatever,
Speaker 6: there's always that that's going to be the weakness, right
Speaker 6: or I got frustrated or whatever, But you have the strength,
Speaker 6: which is the opposite, maybe like being peaceful, you know,
Speaker 6: in that being at peace in that situation. And then
Speaker 6: if you tell yourself that story that that made you
Speaker 6: more peaceful, that becomes reality.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 6: A lot of people have like childhood trauma because they
Speaker 6: tell tell themselves the story that that was traumatic and
Speaker 6: that was a problem and that wasn't so.
Speaker 5: But it's again just stories.
Speaker 6: You go to a psychotherapist or like a psychologist or
Speaker 6: whatever they're going to help you process stories.
Speaker 5: You go to a lawyer. You're going to listen to
Speaker 5: your story and make.
Speaker 6: A case out of it for a judge to approve
Speaker 6: your story, for them to use the lud. You go
Speaker 6: to a police man and whatever, they're going to listen
Speaker 6: to your story and help you. And so it's all
Speaker 6: again the stories we tell ourselves. And you're going to
Speaker 6: get a job interview, you tell you a story about
Speaker 6: yourself to get into the job. You want to have
Speaker 6: a relationship, you tell a story to that person to
Speaker 6: make sure they combine and you get to work on
Speaker 6: and so getting got to know what you're doing. And
Speaker 6: the plasma is the thing, right, the thing that moves
Speaker 6: while you're telling the story exactly. It holds not only
Speaker 6: the whole story, but the exactly the whole story. And
Speaker 6: when you put it into a symbol, When you put
Speaker 6: it into a symbol like some statue or from God
Speaker 6: and whatever, that's what you're doing. You're you're literally like
Speaker 6: that symbol now has this plasma.
Speaker 5: Look at it exactly.
Speaker 6: You look at like Jesus and Cross and whatever, you
Speaker 6: look at some Greek god whatever, and the plasma off
Speaker 6: that comes into your consciousness and yes, you live that story.
Speaker 3: You live those memories. That's why idols, yes, and that
Speaker 3: they hold the idols hold memory And what in the
Speaker 3: thing what you're saying, the story is held in plasma.
Speaker 3: The plasma is imprinted, right, it's information, but there's a
Speaker 3: truth within that. If we're willing to see past the story,
Speaker 3: there are feelings there and that's what you'll get in
Speaker 3: really good therapy which changed my life, somatic therapy. She's like,
Speaker 3: I don't care about the story. What are you feeling?
Speaker 3: Where's it in your body? And as I process that,
Speaker 3: the trauma actually heals, and you know, it's not like
Speaker 3: that thing never happened to me. But I'm able to
Speaker 3: change the meaning of it and reparent myself not only
Speaker 3: feel it, but create a news story and move forward
Speaker 3: in my life, not letting that dictate the outcomes of
Speaker 3: how I see certain things, like a really what's the good?
Speaker 1: One?
Speaker 3: Like that my mom when I was younger, like my
Speaker 3: mom was never like there for me emotionally, like when
Speaker 3: I was sick, she thought I was like a demon.
Speaker 3: It was this really weird thing that she didn't want
Speaker 3: to take care of me when I was sick. And
Speaker 3: then you know, I got a story in my mind
Speaker 3: if I had to earn love, and every boyfriend I had,
Speaker 3: I had to earn their love. And then once I
Speaker 3: actually was able to feel the trauma of my mom
Speaker 3: not being there for me and telling me that you
Speaker 3: know that she also is going through her own stuff,
Speaker 3: that she was emotionally incapable, didn't mean she didn't love me,
Speaker 3: and it didn't mean I have to earn love those
Speaker 3: things I created in my mind and it doesn't mean
Speaker 3: it wasn't fair. Then I can start living life now
Speaker 3: being like, oh, I don't have to earn love, and
Speaker 3: you know, because someone treats me a certain way, it
Speaker 3: doesn't mean they don't have.
Speaker 10: Love within them or for me. And I can also
Speaker 10: give that love to myself now.
Speaker 3: And then I don't know, you just start attracting different
Speaker 3: people in the plasma of reality.
Speaker 10: Fucking change it.
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's crazy. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But doctor Huberman and all kinds of neuroscientists talk
Speaker 1: about emotions negative or otherwise, they last ninety seconds in
Speaker 1: our sign napses, like those electricities. That firing of that
Speaker 1: emotion is ninety seconds. And he's like, if you are
Speaker 1: perpetually all day locked in that emotion, He's like that's
Speaker 1: you baby. He's like, you're not obligated to feel that
Speaker 1: after you feel it for those ninety seconds. But then
Speaker 1: he's like, dude, get you some biohacks. Get up and stretch,
Speaker 1: you know, smile with your face. Manually, it's going to
Speaker 1: trigger those things to break up that pattern. It's up
Speaker 1: to you to after those ninety seconds passed for that
Speaker 1: negative emotion to replace it with something else or you know,
Speaker 1: you don't have to loop it.
Speaker 3: It's all about feedback loops.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and even memory, right, Like if you think
Speaker 6: about the more you remember something, Every time you remember,
Speaker 6: you're imprinting your current emotional state onto that memory, and
Speaker 6: even the details they change over time. Yeah, especially when
Speaker 6: as you get older because you're like losing touch. It
Speaker 6: becomes like compressed. Like again technology, you compress thing to
Speaker 6: be able to hold it, and then you kind of
Speaker 6: lose track of it. So what even is real? Like
Speaker 6: did you really live that way? Because it's all a
Speaker 6: perspective as well. Yeah, so like you're saying, from your perspective,
Speaker 6: first was like, oh my mom was doing this, but
Speaker 6: then you heard her story and then it's like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 6: she was doing this to me, but she was also
Speaker 6: going through something else, and then there was someone else,
Speaker 6: and start adding everyone's perspective to make the thing bigger,
Speaker 6: and then you can rewrite it as you want, like yeah,
Speaker 6: sure I live on Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an amalgamation of plasma unconsciousness or plasma and electricity.
Speaker 1: That's like literally the feedback loop. That's the vehicle of
Speaker 1: that feedback loop that we have complete access to.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think if I would distill it, it really
Speaker 3: is as simple, at least for me, like for people
Speaker 3: who want to who are interested in like the plasma
Speaker 3: magic of it all, right, if I could distill it
Speaker 3: into like a few things it is, ask questions to reality,
Speaker 3: you know, rather than setting intentions, ask reality a question
Speaker 3: when something happens, like like why you know, why is
Speaker 3: this happening? Or oh, get curious, ask a question a
Speaker 3: quest ion, right, go on a quest with plasma A
Speaker 3: and then let it go number two, Let it go
Speaker 3: number three, Let the mystery, let God, let the plasma
Speaker 3: of reality amalgamation bring it back to you in a
Speaker 3: way beyond your wildest dreams. And every event that happens,
Speaker 3: you know, question it, get curious, don't assign it, right,
Speaker 3: away as reality. And if you're in a constant co
Speaker 3: creation with reality like that, that's magic, that's living, that's
Speaker 3: letting things unfold, like just yeah, question everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. That The whole concept of the plasmatic creation
Speaker 1: outside of ourselves is can be a matter of surrendering
Speaker 1: the results. It's like it's like trying to hold water
Speaker 1: in your hands. You know, the more you grip it,
Speaker 1: the more you're going to lose it, you know, by
Speaker 1: by allowing things to happen authentically, and that that comes
Speaker 1: with kind of doing your best to live guilt free,
Speaker 1: which is impossible. But if you can honestly tell yourself, Okay,
Speaker 1: I did what I was supposed to do, and I
Speaker 1: think I did what I thought was the right thing,
Speaker 1: then you can.
Speaker 3: Put at the time with what you had yes, yeah, So.
Speaker 1: Whatever result happens from that, you can know of it
Speaker 1: and and and kind of know that that whatever happens
Speaker 1: is not not meant to be in a way but
Speaker 1: to but that you can be comfortable. You can sit
Speaker 1: in that discomfort knowing that you you did what you
Speaker 1: were supposed to do. And sometimes those negative things that
Speaker 1: happen as the results are like that burnt toast that
Speaker 1: keeps you from getting in an accident on the highway.
Speaker 1: It's it's it was there for a reason, and we
Speaker 1: said that yes, for.
Speaker 3: Our greatest evolution. And I'll say something that will really
Speaker 3: make people know I'm human is that yesterday I yelled
Speaker 3: at my mom who's eighty years old, on the phone
Speaker 3: because she really pissed me off, and we all was
Speaker 3: the greatest way to know you're not enlightened, this to
Speaker 3: be with your family, perhaf. For the day, I created
Speaker 3: a story that I was going to have a horrible
Speaker 3: day because I had bad karma because I yelled at
Speaker 3: my eighty year old mother, And who am I to
Speaker 3: write a book about plasma when I can't even have
Speaker 3: patience with my own mom? And then I created a
Speaker 3: different story, and I was like, you know what, Like
Speaker 3: I had a human moment. We were both angry, we
Speaker 3: both trigger each other, and we love each other, and
Speaker 3: I still deserve to have a good life and a
Speaker 3: good day, and I'm going to apologize to her and
Speaker 3: move on and not guilt myself.
Speaker 10: So there's you know, it's.
Speaker 3: All about just reflection. We can still mess up and
Speaker 3: allow ourselves to have good things, which is going back
Speaker 3: to like feel guilt, be like oops, but'd be like
Speaker 3: I still deserve good things.
Speaker 2: So that is.
Speaker 1: Beautiful and it's an awesome philosophy on life. But hold up, Yeah,
Speaker 1: tell me your mother had you when she was fit, so.
Speaker 3: I was adopted, so so my mo. Yeah my mom,
Speaker 3: I was my my birth mom having when she was
Speaker 3: seventeen and I also know her. But yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 3: my mother drives me crazy.
Speaker 1: That would have drove me crazy if I didn't ask,
Speaker 1: so I apologize.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, no it's not. It's not a sort of subject.
Speaker 3: I talk about it all the time. Yeah, yeah, any
Speaker 3: more plasma questions. I have to get off in four minutes.
Speaker 2: I'm good. I think we could wrap it up here.
Speaker 4: I think I think that was well, was already right there, Dana,
Speaker 4: thank you so much for coming on. Uh is there
Speaker 4: anything that you would like to promote again or like
Speaker 4: let people know where they can find you stuff?
Speaker 2: Please?
Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna say that. The funniest thing is
Speaker 3: that you probably thought we were going to talk about
Speaker 3: other things. But somehow mental health and plasma are synonymous, right,
Speaker 3: isn't it kind of weird? Mental health magic.
Speaker 2: And health of magic?
Speaker 3: I think it's definitely too yeah, because you know what
Speaker 3: is magic but working with the human and what are
Speaker 3: we but balls of mental health, crisis of emotions. But yeah, sure,
Speaker 3: just once.
Speaker 10: Again you can if everyone liked what I said.
Speaker 3: Here the Amalgamation of Plasma Unconsciousness, My book A New
Speaker 3: Force Plasma, a Consciousness and a New Human Potential is
Speaker 3: on my website, the sign ones Dana Kipple dot com.
Speaker 3: Also on Amazon there's the color and black and white version.
Speaker 3: It's the same stuff inside. And then you can take
Speaker 3: my magic classes. My January magic class is January twenty. First,
Speaker 3: it is on the Secret Bridge of the fourth Dimension,
Speaker 3: about that interstitial layer between us and our higher selves
Speaker 3: and how to be coherent within that to communicate because
Speaker 3: our higher selves is giving us what we want in
Speaker 3: every moment, but it's communicating with your subconscious. So if
Speaker 3: you don't know about that layer, that bridge, it's going
Speaker 3: to give you everything you don't want that your subconscious wants,
Speaker 3: because you still want your mommy when you were five,
Speaker 3: but we don't. We haven't healed that yet. So I
Speaker 3: kind of go into the magic of that and how
Speaker 3: to communicate with our higher selves through that. And then
Speaker 3: there's also a magic class on plasma and consciousness in
Speaker 3: there and that is all on my Instagram, I'm at
Speaker 3: dan and dot the Alien in my stand store linked
Speaker 3: in bio. That is it. And thank you guys so
Speaker 3: much also for having me as a guest and sharing
Speaker 3: me with your audience and Joey for introducing me.
Speaker 1: Oh this was fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, thank you very much.
Speaker 3: Conversations I've yeah, I just I love our conversation and
Speaker 3: it was so enlightening and I think it can help
Speaker 3: a lot of people if they listened to it.
Speaker 4: Oh no, I thought that was great. I like everywhere,
Speaker 4: what and what everybody added to it. Yeah, like I said,
Speaker 4: it was, I knew it was gonna be a good show.
Speaker 4: And I really really do appreciate you, you know, coming on, Joey,
Speaker 4: thank you for making it happen. I was really looking
Speaker 4: forward to this. Yeah, and uh, since yeah, we're gonna
Speaker 4: wrap this up now. I think you can find Matt,
Speaker 4: you can find Ethan. Sure you've heard them plug themselves before.
Speaker 4: I think they did at the beginning anyway, So uh yeah,
Speaker 4: thank you very much.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Oh that's right. He didn't you ever promote some Ethan?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, check out my geometry of energy, how
Speaker 8: to meditate. It's I think got a got a great
Speaker 8: bunch of ideas and relationships in it, and and that
Speaker 8: was so awesome. Dana, thank you so much. And Joey
Speaker 8: thank you as always. Thank you of.
Speaker 2: Course, of course.
Speaker 1: I do. I have a book. It's called Book of
Speaker 1: Wonderful Suffering and it exists and I'm trying to write
Speaker 1: another one, but I'm I'm slacking on it. Yeah, my
Speaker 1: page is a mere four hundred books though pages though,
Speaker 1: so it's not not quite as as dense.
Speaker 3: But to simplify, yeah, yeah, it's got a bunch of
Speaker 3: mythological ship connected with science in.
Speaker 1: It, and a little bit about the art of alchemy
Speaker 1: not let into gold, but you know, uh material into spirit,
Speaker 1: so to speak, all that stuff. But honestly, for real,
Speaker 1: you get all that stuff on the channel as well.
Speaker 3: You know, you can go to both places.
Speaker 10: Some people like taking notes and reading.
Speaker 2: People do like reading, sir.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's true. That's I'm uh, I'm guilty of it.
Speaker 3: Especially now like you can skim and reading's kind of
Speaker 3: a portal where when you're watching a video, it's like
Speaker 3: a visual experience, but you can't like skim as much
Speaker 3: so it actually younger to watch. I like reading because
Speaker 3: reading just a co creative portable.
Speaker 1: It's your own page, and then you can put bookmarks
Speaker 1: in it. You can go back and yeah, into.
Speaker 3: A random bibliomancy page and be like, what is the
Speaker 3: univers want to tell me today?
Speaker 1: Well, my favorite one of my favorite things is to
Speaker 1: open a book just right in the middle of it
Speaker 1: somewhere and like, what's going on this? Like that Robert
Speaker 1: Temple talks about that, and he ties that into plasma
Speaker 1: somehow and it makes sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wait here, this is insider information. He gave me this.
Speaker 3: No one's heard of this. The Trees of Sadness. It
Speaker 3: is his collection of short stories that have secret magic
Speaker 3: things in it. Like if you guys want to go
Speaker 3: on like a magical mystery tour, like secret knowledge, get
Speaker 3: this where to get it? But it has like it
Speaker 3: has like it's kind of like a zen Cohen like
Speaker 3: it has like puzzles in here, and like I went
Speaker 3: on like a like a weak epic trying to figure
Speaker 3: out one of his short stories because he left like
Speaker 3: mysterious puzzle stuff in it.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It was great. But my point is books are going
Speaker 3: to blow up, and they're already starting to obviously on
Speaker 3: book top because more people want to be in nature again,
Speaker 3: they want to have interactive, in person experiences, and they're
Speaker 3: going on like these week times off social media. I
Speaker 3: think YouTube is exploding. Actually I think that will stay.
Speaker 3: But I also think books are really going to explode
Speaker 3: because of the time people need off social media.
Speaker 10: So everyone write a book.
Speaker 5: There you go, I do.
Speaker 6: I am writing one translation of the r Kilometer that's
Speaker 6: going to get out in a few months, I hope.
Speaker 6: Most importantly, the terror stuff your book of life and
Speaker 6: your book off the book of thought, which is the terror.
Speaker 6: So hold your own book of life and create your
Speaker 6: own story. Just DM me and I'll help you out
Speaker 6: with it.
Speaker 4: Two of the very nice no thank you again. I'm
Speaker 4: very excited I was able to get you on. It's
Speaker 4: pretty good, awesome time, and thank you everybody in the chat.
Speaker 4: We had a lot of people in the chat, a
Speaker 4: lot of good stuff being said in there. Looked like
Speaker 4: people were diging it. That's why we go live. And
Speaker 4: that is the end of another recall rejects and until
Speaker 4: the next one, everybody be well later.