WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.080 Welcome to the nonprofits. For our final segment this week, 2 00:00:03.120 --> 00:00:05.240 we're looking at a subject that is near and dear 3 00:00:05.280 --> 00:00:08.160 to my heart, and that is public education. Jimmy Junior 4 00:00:08.240 --> 00:00:10.240 tell us, what's the latest from the front lines. 5 00:00:10.880 --> 00:00:15.640 Yeah, Well, Christian nationalism suggests that being American also means 6 00:00:15.720 --> 00:00:18.920 being Christian, and many supporters of this idea argue that 7 00:00:19.160 --> 00:00:22.320 the founders excuse me, the founders of this country believe 8 00:00:22.399 --> 00:00:25.960 the same thing, but that is inherent inherently false. They 9 00:00:26.239 --> 00:00:30.120 made no such claims, and they actively avoided the implementation 10 00:00:30.640 --> 00:00:33.920 of any religious sect whatsoever. They had intricate discussions that 11 00:00:33.960 --> 00:00:37.840 resulted in unanimous agreement that determine the United States would 12 00:00:37.880 --> 00:00:41.520 be a country based solely on representative democracy, where people 13 00:00:41.560 --> 00:00:44.920 would have the right to self determination in their private lives, 14 00:00:45.320 --> 00:00:47.679 and that gave us the right to practice or not 15 00:00:47.840 --> 00:00:52.039 practice whatever creed we wish, along with the expectation that 16 00:00:52.079 --> 00:00:55.320 the government was going to uphold this social contract. So 17 00:00:55.679 --> 00:00:58.840 what is happening in Louisiana and Oklahoma. We have lawmakers 18 00:00:58.880 --> 00:01:01.759 there in place who either don't know their history, or 19 00:01:01.799 --> 00:01:04.319 don't care to know it, or both, and they are 20 00:01:04.439 --> 00:01:07.519 using their position to assault the minds of children in 21 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:10.840 order to secure a long term dependency on a population 22 00:01:10.920 --> 00:01:13.799 that is deprived of the education that they deserved. This 23 00:01:14.000 --> 00:01:17.400 article was in US News and written by Leah Qui 24 00:01:17.680 --> 00:01:20.359 and Joseph Axe from Reuters on August seventh. 25 00:01:20.400 --> 00:01:22.640 Thank you, Jimmy, and I would like for you to 26 00:01:22.959 --> 00:01:25.280 expand At the end there you said what's happening in 27 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:27.840 Louisiana and Oklahoma. I was wondering if you could expand 28 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:30.120 a little bit on some specifics there, what's going on 29 00:01:30.560 --> 00:01:31.040 down there. 30 00:01:31.200 --> 00:01:35.959 Yeah, So in Louisiana recently, some legislation was passed that 31 00:01:36.439 --> 00:01:39.000 schools or I don't know that it was quite legislation, 32 00:01:39.079 --> 00:01:41.000 but it was a school it's a school policy now 33 00:01:41.680 --> 00:01:44.480 that all schools will have to have the Ten Commandments 34 00:01:44.480 --> 00:01:49.200 displayed or all classes, all grade levels on at least 35 00:01:49.239 --> 00:01:54.599 an eleven x fourteen poster size paper in every classroom. Right, 36 00:01:55.239 --> 00:01:59.040 and so that in theory violates the establishment clause of 37 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:03.319 the United States Constitution. In Oklahoma, similar measures of being taken, 38 00:02:03.359 --> 00:02:06.640 although it's just that the Bible is being required to 39 00:02:06.680 --> 00:02:09.759 be taught to all grade levels, and so teachers are 40 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:14.319 being expected to relate their lessons to something in the Bible. Somehow. 41 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:18.800 You know, these are being argued against as violations of 42 00:02:18.840 --> 00:02:24.159 the Establishment Clause, which guarantees that no one religion will 43 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:30.120 be supported or kind of propagated by the government. Right, 44 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:33.520 but that's not what's happening. And these are in public schools, 45 00:02:33.599 --> 00:02:36.360 so the government can't do that. But that's what's happening. 46 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:40.919 And yeah, we're seeing challenges to these laws, but they 47 00:02:40.919 --> 00:02:42.719 are scheduled to take effect anyway. 48 00:02:43.199 --> 00:02:46.280 You know, I would get fired so fast if that 49 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:49.039 happened in my state. There's just no way, there's I'm 50 00:02:49.080 --> 00:02:51.520 not going to put that on my classroom. But anyway, 51 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:56.719 so Eli, let's turn the camera back on humanity and 52 00:02:56.960 --> 00:02:59.639 let's take a journey into that deep dark of the 53 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:01.840 human mind. I want you to help us to understand 54 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:05.039 what does all of this tell us about us as 55 00:03:05.159 --> 00:03:07.280 humans and our nature and our psychology. 56 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:10.879 So it's this week has been a lot about like 57 00:03:11.039 --> 00:03:14.599 resistance to inclusion, and that seems to be with sort 58 00:03:14.639 --> 00:03:21.599 of fueling these pieces of legislation, especially in education. Conservatives 59 00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:24.360 really oppose like the woke or like the liberal idea 60 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:30.199 in curricula that focuses on things like including all people 61 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:32.719 regardless of like what they look like or how they 62 00:03:32.759 --> 00:03:36.319 are like the people are people. And I think that 63 00:03:37.479 --> 00:03:39.719 I know it may not be the case, it seems 64 00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:42.360 this way to me that because there's a Republican majority 65 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:44.719 in the Supreme Court right now, that some of these 66 00:03:45.319 --> 00:03:48.360 bad actors feel emboldened that they know what they're doing 67 00:03:48.439 --> 00:03:51.159 isn't right, but they feel like there's a chance they 68 00:03:51.159 --> 00:03:53.240 could get away with it. And it's like either they 69 00:03:53.319 --> 00:03:56.159 will or they won't. Like either they'll get away with it, 70 00:03:56.240 --> 00:03:57.639 or they'll be like, no, you can't do that anymore. 71 00:03:57.639 --> 00:03:59.639 And they'll be like, well, I tried, but I think 72 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:00.840 that it to. 73 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:03.400 Lose where they exactly they're not going to go backwards 74 00:04:03.400 --> 00:04:05.759 and you know, start going against that exactly. 75 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:10.199 And and I don't think the policymakers believe this, but 76 00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:13.360 I think and but I think that they think and 77 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:16.560 they are right that enough people believe that the First 78 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:19.560 Amendment was intended to protect the church from the government 79 00:04:19.720 --> 00:04:23.160 rather than vice versa, that all they have to do 80 00:04:23.240 --> 00:04:26.240 to like radicalize their followers is be like, oh, the 81 00:04:26.240 --> 00:04:29.120 government is overreaching by telling us we're not allowed to 82 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:31.319 do this because they're not supposed to interfere with the church. 83 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:33.680 They're supposed to let us do whatever we want, and 84 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:36.079 they're not letting us do that, so now they're overreaching, 85 00:04:36.439 --> 00:04:38.879 and it just sort of really highlights this like tribalist 86 00:04:39.040 --> 00:04:44.439 nature of humans that like's if it's if their other, 87 00:04:44.759 --> 00:04:47.279 whatever other is, and in this case, if they're not Christian, 88 00:04:47.439 --> 00:04:48.800 they're wrong and. 89 00:04:48.639 --> 00:04:49.199 They just. 90 00:04:50.759 --> 00:04:53.120 Because of that, they feel like the same rules don't apply. 91 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:57.199 Yeah, yeah, that's definitely dark. Aaron. You just want to 92 00:04:57.199 --> 00:05:00.079 put a little Jesus into the country. What's wrong with that? 93 00:05:01.839 --> 00:05:04.360 A lot's wrong with that in my opinion, because the 94 00:05:04.439 --> 00:05:07.240 reason why religion and government need to be kept separate 95 00:05:07.319 --> 00:05:11.560 is because religion makes thoughts and beliefs a crime. And 96 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:13.639 when you start to bring your religion into your government, 97 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:15.399 it means your government is going to start to make 98 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:19.040 thoughts and beliefs a crime. And the First Amendment very 99 00:05:19.040 --> 00:05:22.279 explicitly prevents the government from doing that. You know, the 100 00:05:22.879 --> 00:05:25.639 Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion 101 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:28.600 or prohibiting the free exercise thereof Not only does it 102 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:31.079 say you can't establish a religion, you can't stop people 103 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:34.639 from exercising their religion. Right of bridging the freedom of 104 00:05:34.680 --> 00:05:39.079 speech or of the press. Those are all things that 105 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:42.439 can be kind of summed up that says that summed 106 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:45.519 up as Congress shall not make thoughts and beliefs a crime, right, 107 00:05:45.839 --> 00:05:50.000 And so that's why we need to avoid mixing religion 108 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:53.120 and government, so we can avoid making thoughts and beliefs 109 00:05:53.120 --> 00:05:55.639 of crime. And one thing I really wish the United 110 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:58.000 States motto is currently in God we Trust, and I 111 00:05:58.079 --> 00:06:00.920 really wish that wasn't our motto. I really wish we 112 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:03.560 could we could for a law. For most of our history, 113 00:06:04.160 --> 00:06:07.759 the unofficial model was e plurubus unum right from from 114 00:06:07.800 --> 00:06:10.000 many one, and I really think we need to go 115 00:06:10.040 --> 00:06:13.319 back to that. But that's really the purpose of the 116 00:06:13.399 --> 00:06:17.199 Constitution and the government is to bring people together, and 117 00:06:17.240 --> 00:06:20.600 out of all these different people, different perspectives, different viewpoints, 118 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:22.839 make one. But when you mix, when you mix religion 119 00:06:22.879 --> 00:06:25.800 and government, it's not concerned with making from many one, 120 00:06:25.959 --> 00:06:28.680 it's concerned with making everybody the same right. 121 00:06:28.920 --> 00:06:33.240 Yeah, exactly. Okay, let's jump over to ELI for a second. Here. 122 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:36.680 I'm assuming that these changes will have a major impact 123 00:06:36.759 --> 00:06:39.920 on how teachers there teach. Is this going to derail 124 00:06:39.959 --> 00:06:43.199 our progress towards our goal of having well rounded learners? 125 00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:45.399 Or is that am I off track on that. 126 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:49.560 Oh, I think absolutely. This is something that I've talked 127 00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:51.439 about the last like three or four times I've been 128 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:54.240 on the nonprofits and it's it's I have the same 129 00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:58.519 side every time. Taking time away from teaching like real 130 00:06:58.879 --> 00:07:02.079 true things that are like evidence based and like an 131 00:07:02.199 --> 00:07:08.439 education curricula that have been approved by professional, knowledgeable, experienced educators, 132 00:07:09.040 --> 00:07:11.160 taking time away from that to teach like here's what 133 00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:15.079 the Bible says, and not backing any of those things 134 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:19.600 up with like they're not It's just it's gonna there. 135 00:07:19.800 --> 00:07:21.720 I'm sorry, my words are getting all mixed up here. 136 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:24.800 They're not separating between what there is a good reason 137 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:28.000 to believe and what we just think is true because 138 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:29.759 we like it because it's in the Bible and that's 139 00:07:29.759 --> 00:07:31.600 what we were told when we were younger, and it's 140 00:07:31.720 --> 00:07:35.160 just not going to do anything to improve the education standings. 141 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:38.040 Like Oklahoma we've already talked about several times on the show, 142 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:40.879 is already near the bottom of the list in education 143 00:07:41.319 --> 00:07:43.360 and they're one of the states that are taking more 144 00:07:43.399 --> 00:07:47.120 time away from that education to do it. And Jeff 145 00:07:47.240 --> 00:07:50.800 Landry even said, which is I believe the governor of Louisiana. 146 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:54.439 Jeff Landry said that if the parents of non or 147 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:57.000 non religious parents, if they don't want their children to 148 00:07:57.120 --> 00:07:59.519 look at ten to learn the Ten Commandments, then they 149 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:02.279 can tell their children not to look at Ten Commandments posters. 150 00:08:02.600 --> 00:08:04.800 And I think that he's still just completely missing the 151 00:08:04.800 --> 00:08:09.120 point because hiding information from children isn't the way to 152 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:11.439 teach them like what is true and what's not. You 153 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:14.000 teach them how to determine what's true and what's not. 154 00:08:14.399 --> 00:08:16.519 And he's still just missing that point. It's not, no, 155 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:19.439 don't learn that that's wrong. Only learn what I show you. 156 00:08:19.560 --> 00:08:21.959 It's like, here's kind of like how we learn what's 157 00:08:21.959 --> 00:08:25.439 true or not. And when I see educators are people 158 00:08:25.480 --> 00:08:28.120 that are making decisions about education that are supposed to 159 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:30.360 be like that are in positions that educators are supposed 160 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:33.000 to be in making such bad choices, it really my 161 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:34.159 blood starts to boil. 162 00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:36.320 Yeah, And there was a nice way that you put it. 163 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:38.679 It reminds me of that saying. You know, if you 164 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:41.080 if you give someone a fish, you feed them for 165 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:43.159 a day, but if you teach them how to fish, 166 00:08:43.240 --> 00:08:45.519 then you feed them for life. And it's kind of 167 00:08:45.519 --> 00:08:47.799 the same thing here. If we're undermining the way if 168 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:52.879 we're undermining our approach to teaching children how to think, how, 169 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:56.159 like you said, how to determine what's real and what's true, 170 00:08:56.240 --> 00:08:58.440 as opposed to giving them a list of things that 171 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:00.559 are true, and you know, here's what you believe, here's 172 00:09:00.600 --> 00:09:02.679 what you don't believe, and then when you run across 173 00:09:02.679 --> 00:09:05.440 something new, then it might be difficult to figure out. 174 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:07.720 And if you're told so, if you're if something is 175 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:09.799 put on the wrong list, you have no way of 176 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:13.200 determining that as well. And so basically we're we're hamstringing 177 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:15.960 ourselves right out of the gate. And it seems like 178 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:19.600 a like the ultimate form of self destruction. And it's 179 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:21.840 very frustrating. And I know I have a biased opinion 180 00:09:21.879 --> 00:09:24.480 because I'm a teacher as well, but I'm also a parent, 181 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:26.720 and I'm also a learner, and and uh you know, 182 00:09:26.759 --> 00:09:28.559 I want I want to live in a country where 183 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:30.919 people know things and know how to do things and 184 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:32.960 know how to solve problems and know how to and 185 00:09:33.039 --> 00:09:36.720 know how to take reality into consideration rather than just following, 186 00:09:37.559 --> 00:09:40.960 you know, the prescribed recipes, prescribed list, and so uh 187 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:44.039 so thank you for that sharing that information. 188 00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:45.679 And so I go ahead, ad real quick, sorry, I 189 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:47.039 just want to get meant to add it was like 190 00:09:47.080 --> 00:09:49.919 you said, if you're like what comparison I made is 191 00:09:49.919 --> 00:09:52.399 if you have a scuba diver under the dock, hooking 192 00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:55.480 a fish onto your kid's line, making your kid think 193 00:09:55.480 --> 00:09:57.720 that he caught the fish, he's not learning how to fish, 194 00:09:57.759 --> 00:09:59.159 and then he's going to go back there when he's 195 00:09:59.200 --> 00:10:01.360 an adult and no, he's helping him under there, and 196 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:03.000 he's not going to catch anything, and he's gonna ask 197 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:03.559 no luck. 198 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:06.039 Yeah, yeah, Jimmy, let's jump over to you here. So 199 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:09.440 the headline was how US public schools became a new 200 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:13.279 religious battleground. So don't keep us waiting what's the answer. 201 00:10:14.120 --> 00:10:16.320 This is not new. This is not new at all. 202 00:10:17.639 --> 00:10:22.679 Using children, attacking children and infecting them, taking advantage of 203 00:10:22.759 --> 00:10:26.519 their naivete if you will, to indoctrinate them is not 204 00:10:26.679 --> 00:10:30.519 new at all. The US public school system in certain 205 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:34.720 states just happens to be the latest medium. But this 206 00:10:34.799 --> 00:10:38.000 is not anything that we have not seen before. Children 207 00:10:38.120 --> 00:10:44.399 remain the target of religious indoctrination and dogmatic thinking as 208 00:10:44.440 --> 00:10:47.399 they have throughout history. I mean that is how this 209 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:53.080 These religions are self perpetuating, if you will. I want 210 00:10:53.120 --> 00:10:56.000 to talk though, and I hope I've answered your question 211 00:10:56.039 --> 00:10:59.200 and forgive me for moving on, but I have to. 212 00:10:59.399 --> 00:11:02.480 I have to address the fact that these people are 213 00:11:02.840 --> 00:11:07.080 not only unprofessional in the way that and inconsistent really 214 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:11.679 in the way that they treat the parents of these students. 215 00:11:11.720 --> 00:11:16.279 For example, Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry says, well, just tell 216 00:11:16.279 --> 00:11:18.960 their children not to look at them. That's for parents 217 00:11:19.039 --> 00:11:23.240 that don't agree. I mean, what a snarky, unprofessional and 218 00:11:23.360 --> 00:11:27.000 dismissive comment for the governor to make. Number one. But 219 00:11:27.399 --> 00:11:29.399 these people have no idea what they're talking about when 220 00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:33.720 it comes to history. The Republican Louisiana Attorney General Liz 221 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:39.279 Murrell says the Bible biblical teachings need to help correct 222 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:41.799 the lack of order and discipline in schools and need 223 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:45.840 to teach students what Moses stood for. Okay, let's talk 224 00:11:45.840 --> 00:11:50.039 about what Moses stood for. Numbers thirty one eighteen. Moses 225 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:52.840 commanded the Israelites to kill the boys and women who 226 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:55.960 had sex with men and spare the virgin girls for themselves. 227 00:11:56.120 --> 00:11:59.879 The spoils of war were divided between Eliza and Levitical priesthood. Okay, 228 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:02.360 so that's what Moses stood for. And now we have 229 00:12:02.440 --> 00:12:05.759 to put elementary age children in a classroom with a 230 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:08.639 poster that tells them not to covet thy neighbor's wife 231 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:11.360 and not to commit adultery. I mean, this is good 232 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:14.000 for a student who wants to study history. Absolutely not. 233 00:12:15.000 --> 00:12:18.480 There is no historical basis in the Bible for the 234 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:22.159 American Constitution or the United States Constitution, in the American government, 235 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:26.080 which they say doing this is important for children to 236 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:29.679 understand the sources of the American government. As we've talked 237 00:12:29.720 --> 00:12:34.440 about already, the American government, the United States Constitution was 238 00:12:34.480 --> 00:12:38.120 actually formed in a way to where they rejected the 239 00:12:38.200 --> 00:12:41.399 power of the Church. We came from hundreds of years, 240 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:43.759 if not a thousand years of medieval structure where the 241 00:12:43.799 --> 00:12:48.960 Catholic Church was pervasive, they were destructive, and they were 242 00:12:49.080 --> 00:12:52.159 downright genocidal. And then we saw the same thing happening, 243 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:55.039 maybe not to the same extent in the Anglican Church. 244 00:12:55.039 --> 00:12:57.080 And when people broke off and they formed the colonies, 245 00:12:57.120 --> 00:13:00.200 they said, you know what, we don't want that religious pressure. 246 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:03.039 And that's how we have our constitution on government. So 247 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:06.519 let's get things straight. When it comes to teaching children 248 00:13:06.559 --> 00:13:09.679 the origins of the American government and the constitution. Who 249 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:11.000 thank you. 250 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:12.879 No, No, I think that was a great point, and 251 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:15.240 I'm glad you said it. It's because it's it's like 252 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:18.080 it's like the word, you know, humanity wants to grow 253 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:21.320 and develop and progress and become better and become smarter 254 00:13:21.399 --> 00:13:24.799 and become kinder and become more productive and safer in 255 00:13:24.840 --> 00:13:27.919 all of these things. And there's just these efforts to 256 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:30.559 just stop that right there. They're saying, no, no, we 257 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:32.840 don't we don't want you know, we don't want to change. 258 00:13:32.840 --> 00:13:34.480 We want to go back to the way things used 259 00:13:34.519 --> 00:13:38.320 to be, which there's very few things from the past 260 00:13:38.399 --> 00:13:41.159 that are that are better than they are now. Absolutely, Aaron, 261 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:44.759 let's jump over to you. What is really at stake here? 262 00:13:44.799 --> 00:13:48.080 What are we risking when we when we engage in 263 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:51.440 this kind of decision making here really. 264 00:13:51.360 --> 00:13:54.600 The future of our country, the future of liberty, the 265 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:58.919 future of freedom. Because religion is dying. All the polls 266 00:13:58.919 --> 00:14:02.320 show it, all the study show people are becoming less religious. 267 00:14:02.519 --> 00:14:04.679 And the people in religions they know it, they can 268 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:07.919 feel it, they can see it. I think at the heart, 269 00:14:08.039 --> 00:14:10.159 you know how a lot of religious people will say, 270 00:14:10.360 --> 00:14:13.519 oh you you you you secretly believe you just are 271 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:16.000 angry at God, right, you secretly believe that God exists? 272 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:17.600 Ah, that's so annoying. 273 00:14:17.799 --> 00:14:20.080 Well, I'm going to tell you something. I'm gonna I'm 274 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:22.320 gonna pull the reverse trick. I'm gonna say, I think 275 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:28.440 secretly religious people know it's full of shit, right, I think? 276 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:31.600 And there and because you can go on YouTube and 277 00:14:32.159 --> 00:14:33.399 watch accurate. 278 00:14:33.159 --> 00:14:35.200 Than they are, that's more accurate than they are. 279 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:38.200 Yeah, because you can go on YouTube and watch me 280 00:14:38.360 --> 00:14:42.000 these videos and suddenly you realize, oh wait, I'm an atheist, 281 00:14:42.200 --> 00:14:45.200 which is what happened to me. The YouTube algorithm recommended 282 00:14:45.240 --> 00:14:47.480 an ACA show to me, and I watched it, and 283 00:14:47.559 --> 00:14:50.759 like a month later of continue watching listening to the ACA, 284 00:14:50.840 --> 00:14:52.399 I was like, Oh, you know what, I have no 285 00:14:52.480 --> 00:14:56.120 good reason to believe what I believe. And I think 286 00:14:56.159 --> 00:14:58.120 at the heart of people they are religious. I think 287 00:14:58.159 --> 00:14:59.879 they're just trying to cover up the fact that deep 288 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:02.039 now they know there's no good reason to believe what 289 00:15:02.080 --> 00:15:06.200 they're believing, and so they're trying to force religion onto 290 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:10.240 kids because because when you teach kids, you're indoctrinating kids, 291 00:15:10.399 --> 00:15:12.600 and so you have to be really careful what you 292 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:14.720 teach them and how you teach them. And if you 293 00:15:14.759 --> 00:15:17.519 can slap the Ten Commandments up in school, you can 294 00:15:17.559 --> 00:15:21.120 teach them to believe in an authoritarian God who says 295 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:24.600 believe me or else you will go to hell. You 296 00:15:24.639 --> 00:15:27.639 will be punished, you will suffer, your family will suffer. 297 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:30.240 Be what I want you to be. And so that's 298 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:33.080 at the root of this battle is it's a battle 299 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:35.879 for people say this the soul of our country, but 300 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:38.440 really it is the future and perhaps the soul of 301 00:15:38.480 --> 00:15:41.000 our country. And even if you, even if we didn't 302 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:44.120 have this problem with religion in filtrating schools like this 303 00:15:44.200 --> 00:15:47.799 in our country, our education system here needs a lot 304 00:15:47.840 --> 00:15:51.399 of help. We do not have the best education system 305 00:15:51.440 --> 00:15:54.639 in this country, and honestly we should. This country should 306 00:15:54.679 --> 00:15:57.320 have the best education. I should have the best elementary, 307 00:15:57.360 --> 00:16:00.320 middle high schools, the best colleges in the world. 308 00:16:00.360 --> 00:16:04.840 We certainly we don't have any excuses right than ourselves. 309 00:16:04.279 --> 00:16:07.960 Not to have the best primary education in the world 310 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:11.840 that we don't demonstrably objectively we do not. So even 311 00:16:11.879 --> 00:16:15.039 before this religion stuff came in, we needed help. The 312 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:17.639 schools in the country need help. So we have a 313 00:16:17.759 --> 00:16:21.159 really big battle and to fight in this country. 314 00:16:21.240 --> 00:16:24.080 Well said, Well said, why the panelists are hot tonight? 315 00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:26.679 Hot tonight? Okay, So I have a question for all 316 00:16:26.720 --> 00:16:31.120 of you. We've so Scotis recently, I guess it's not 317 00:16:31.159 --> 00:16:34.279 so recent now, but they tossed out the Lemon test right. 318 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:37.240 They and that's from the nineteen seventy one Lemon v. 319 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:41.200 Kurtzman decision, which basically it just aids in the maintenance 320 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:44.879 of the separation of church and government. It is becoming 321 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:48.360 more and more obvious though, that they intend to reshape, 322 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:51.799 or in fact are reshaping the interpretation of the American 323 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:55.840 Constitution to incorporate this well Christianity. Let's be frank about 324 00:16:55.840 --> 00:16:59.559 it here. Does that make the issue of court reform 325 00:16:59.840 --> 00:17:02.480 all the more critical in the coming months and years 326 00:17:02.799 --> 00:17:06.000 or is there a less radical solution? And I'd like 327 00:17:06.039 --> 00:17:07.559 to hear from Eli first. 328 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:11.079 I think no, I think you're right. I think definitely 329 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:13.000 core reform is probably where it's going to be. I 330 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:14.799 don't know if there is another. So it's like again 331 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:17.759 like I'm not a policymaker, but if you look at that, 332 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:23.039 like in twenty twenty three, I think it was the 333 00:17:23.519 --> 00:17:26.039 Americans United for the Separation of Church and State tracked 334 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:31.559 ninety one cases across twenty nine states of laws similar 335 00:17:31.599 --> 00:17:35.599 to the Ten Commandments mandate in Louisiana, and I think 336 00:17:35.880 --> 00:17:40.119 forty some odd cases this year, forty nine bills no 337 00:17:40.200 --> 00:17:43.519 I apologize ninety one so far this year in twenty 338 00:17:43.559 --> 00:17:45.720 twenty four across twenty nited states, and forty nine bills 339 00:17:45.799 --> 00:17:48.759 last year similar to the Ten Commandments mandate. And it is, 340 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:50.640 like I said, because they feel like they're going to 341 00:17:50.640 --> 00:17:52.160 be able to get away with this in Scotus, and 342 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:54.480 I think that you're I think you hit it on 343 00:17:54.519 --> 00:17:54.839 the money. 344 00:17:54.880 --> 00:17:57.599 Having that it's kind of an opportunity, right, an opportunity 345 00:17:57.599 --> 00:18:00.000 that might not be there tomorrow. Jimmy, what are your things? 346 00:18:00.279 --> 00:18:02.920 Do you think is? Does this put the crosshairs onto 347 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:05.680 court reform? Do we need? Is that something that is 348 00:18:06.279 --> 00:18:08.240 important now or more important than it was? 349 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:11.519 Yeah? The Supreme Court is the single greatest failure of 350 00:18:11.559 --> 00:18:16.519 the constitution in our nation's history. The Supreme Court was 351 00:18:16.599 --> 00:18:19.799 formed before the formation of political parties, so I don't 352 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:22.359 think that our founders really had an idea of how 353 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:23.960 perverse it would become. 354 00:18:24.960 --> 00:18:25.920 These people were. 355 00:18:25.880 --> 00:18:29.240 Given lifetime appointments so that they would not succumb to 356 00:18:29.400 --> 00:18:33.079 political motivations, and instead we are seeing exactly the opposite. 357 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:35.559 They had no idea that they were going to be 358 00:18:36.039 --> 00:18:40.920 influenced by two major political parties that are tearing the 359 00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:44.720 country apart. And that's to be frank, that's what's happening. 360 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:46.880 I mean, we have a division. We have a division 361 00:18:46.920 --> 00:18:51.440 that's based on bipartisan politics. Now, I'm going to remain 362 00:18:51.480 --> 00:18:54.079 objective by not saying whose fault one way or the 363 00:18:54.160 --> 00:18:57.400 other it is. I'm just saying that party politics was 364 00:18:57.440 --> 00:19:01.240 not supposed to drive the ambitions of the Supreme Court, 365 00:19:01.279 --> 00:19:05.160 and it absolutely is. Therefore, it's the biggest failure of 366 00:19:05.240 --> 00:19:10.640 our constitution period. In my opinion, reform is definitely necessary. 367 00:19:10.680 --> 00:19:15.359 In fact, how effective is a constitution that's two hundred 368 00:19:15.400 --> 00:19:18.720 and fifty years old that was written by white land 369 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:22.680 owning men that thought people who were not white land 370 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:25.519 owning men didn't have the same rights as them. What 371 00:19:25.640 --> 00:19:29.279 kind of things are in there that we really haven't uncovered, 372 00:19:29.359 --> 00:19:34.559 like we're uncovering now with the gross breakdown of the 373 00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:37.559 Supreme Court. I just wonder if it's time for a review. 374 00:19:37.799 --> 00:19:39.839 The scary thing is who the hell is going to 375 00:19:39.880 --> 00:19:43.000 review it nowadays, I would almost stay with the devil. 376 00:19:43.039 --> 00:19:45.039 I know them with the devil. 377 00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:48.279 I don't know, right, Yeah, good point there. I'm gonna 378 00:19:48.599 --> 00:19:50.440 I'm going to Aaron. I want to get your opinion 379 00:19:50.519 --> 00:19:53.279 on that question on the Scotis issue as well. But 380 00:19:53.359 --> 00:19:55.680 before we do that, I want to throw out I 381 00:19:56.119 --> 00:19:58.440 have one last question that I want to ask everyone, 382 00:19:58.519 --> 00:20:00.720 and it can just be a one or two answer. 383 00:20:01.160 --> 00:20:02.920 I'll just to give you a minute to think about 384 00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:06.480 it while Aaron's talking about the Supreme Court, But what 385 00:20:06.559 --> 00:20:09.440 advice would you give to a new teacher that's worried 386 00:20:09.440 --> 00:20:12.160 that the American education system is going to be gutted? 387 00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:12.319 Here? 388 00:20:12.359 --> 00:20:15.240 So think about that, And Aaron, could you chime in 389 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:18.079 your thoughts about court reform? Is that a critical thing 390 00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:20.240 now or do we or is there other ways that 391 00:20:20.279 --> 00:20:21.720 we should be addressing this. 392 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:25.759 I think it's absolutely critical. You know, what Jimmy Junior 393 00:20:25.799 --> 00:20:29.039 said is totally right. There's a reason that the far 394 00:20:29.119 --> 00:20:31.960 right targeted the court, and they targeted the court, you know, 395 00:20:32.119 --> 00:20:35.319 starting fifty years ago, thirty forty, fifty years ago because 396 00:20:35.359 --> 00:20:38.039 it is the weakest and most susceptible to corruption. And 397 00:20:38.079 --> 00:20:42.119 they've succeeded. Right, there's no The Supreme Court has no 398 00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:43.960 enforceable code of ethics, right. 399 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:45.279 You know. 400 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:49.079 Pro public has published article after articles demonstrating how corrupt 401 00:20:49.359 --> 00:20:55.000