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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's showtime. People say, good money to see this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>When they go out to a theater, they want cold sodas,

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<v Speaker 2>hot popcorn, and no monsters in the protection booth.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone pretend podcasting isn't boring.

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<v Speaker 3>Don it off.

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<v Speaker 1>Visualize what happened the day you were arrested.

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<v Speaker 4>The house is being auctioned off next week.

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<v Speaker 3>Why didn't they tell me for.

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<v Speaker 4>What you got fifty ground.

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<v Speaker 2>The other way?

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<v Speaker 1>What sire? Hey? Through this is my plan. You are suspended, Franny?

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<v Speaker 1>Why and the.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately your salary is not at all close to what

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<v Speaker 2>we request for a loan.

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<v Speaker 3>Good d put your hand when I can see, hey, don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Make what I care.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, you're a girl. Who give me five

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<v Speaker 1>grand and I'll plan one. What's in the back?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, my god.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so sorry, officer. It's just it's our first

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<v Speaker 1>dry safe in love to Betty so whooping my horse.

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<v Speaker 3>That horse is worth fifty grand.

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<v Speaker 1>Now hiding the money in the saddle, Billy. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>leaving you until I get my five grand. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a blam se a tiny, tiny detour fifty to fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>After that we're strangers.

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<v Speaker 4>The one I want to see I got them magic.

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<v Speaker 3>To It's the.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm tired, broke, pregnant lady here.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, how are you today?

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<v Speaker 1>My friend? Who are you? God sent me? Wow? Really here?

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<v Speaker 2>You need to give him a reason.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, folks, welcome to a special episode of the Projection Booth.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm your host Mike White. On this episode, I am

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<v Speaker 5>joined by Troy Leanne Johnson and Grace Van Deen all

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<v Speaker 5>about their new film Silver Star. It is the story

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<v Speaker 5>of a young African American woman who, after she gets

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<v Speaker 5>out of prison, kidnaps a pregnant teenager during a failed

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<v Speaker 5>bank robbery. So it's kind of a road movie, kind

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<v Speaker 5>of a buddy movie at times. Yeah, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of comedy in this a lot of serious stuff as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Had a great time talking with Grace and Troy, and

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<v Speaker 5>I hope you have a great time listening to it.

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<v Speaker 5>Check your local listings. Silver Star should be playing right now.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to know a little bit more about you

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<v Speaker 5>guys now. Grace, I understand you grew up in like

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<v Speaker 5>an entertainment family.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I did, but like it made me not want

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<v Speaker 1>to go down this path, So I guess it was

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<v Speaker 1>meant to be.

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<v Speaker 5>At the end of the day, what changed your mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I really wanted to be a therapist, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fell into acting, and then I found out

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<v Speaker 1>I discovered that acting is a bit more therapeutic for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe that's what I was searching for all along

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<v Speaker 1>in my path down psychology.

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<v Speaker 5>So and Troy, how about yourself? Look at you just said.

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<v Speaker 3>I started doing theater as a kid, and I would

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<v Speaker 3>just go to like theater camp. I've just found acting

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<v Speaker 3>fun since I was little, and no one in my

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<v Speaker 3>family has ever done it. So I think they were

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<v Speaker 3>all like, what is this weird thing that you're sure?

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<v Speaker 5>What kind of roles are you? Guys typically attracted to

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<v Speaker 5>when it comes to what you want to be doing

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<v Speaker 5>and acting.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I like getting to play people who, at

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<v Speaker 3>least on the surface, feel very different from me. I

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<v Speaker 3>think I like trying to figure out what I guess

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<v Speaker 3>at our cores is like similar. I think that can

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<v Speaker 3>be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the things I get cast in have

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<v Speaker 1>never been like what I ultimately want to play, like.

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<v Speaker 1>I really want to play like a love interest like

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<v Speaker 1>the Notebook or Boo Valentine, And but people don't see

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<v Speaker 1>me that way. They often see me either very pregnant,

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<v Speaker 1>or very dead. I don't know what that sounds about me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I need to do some internal work to

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<v Speaker 1>get people to look at me differently. Any times you

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<v Speaker 1>played pregnant, I think I can say that I'm pregnant

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<v Speaker 1>on this movie as well. This is like my sixth

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<v Speaker 1>time do.

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<v Speaker 5>You just wear a belly? Well? Do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess so they like the extra weight on me

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<v Speaker 1>to be fair. Silver Star is like, even though I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very pregnant, it is the most different I've ever been

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<v Speaker 1>for a role. I talk a lot and I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>I think Franny is very positive outlook on the world,

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<v Speaker 1>which I usually don't get cast in that. So that

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<v Speaker 1>was a nice shift.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, Grace, how did you get cast in Silver Star?

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<v Speaker 1>It was originally another actress and actor cast in the

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<v Speaker 1>roles of Billy and Franny, and then schedule conflicts happened,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think Troy and I just kind of it.

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<v Speaker 1>We fell into its lap. But it was amazing, it

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<v Speaker 1>was perfect. I remember our first chemistry read. I was like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be good.

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<v Speaker 5>And the same question to you, Troy, what was your

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<v Speaker 5>experience coming into this.

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<v Speaker 3>I just got sent an audition for it and I

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<v Speaker 3>read the script and I was like, I love this

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<v Speaker 3>so much, and I just thought it was so sweet

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<v Speaker 3>and vulnerable their relationship and then saying we did our

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<v Speaker 3>chemistry read and I was like, wait, this is so wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember reading the script and being like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>so good, so good, No way in hell they cast me.

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<v Speaker 5>Pray when you read the script, was Billy still a boy?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I actually knew that Billy was supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to be a boy at first until we started filming,

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<v Speaker 3>or like after we had filmed it, and then they

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<v Speaker 3>were like, oh, yeah, originally this was a man, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh, I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so happy that it was like that. It

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<v Speaker 1>ended up being us too, Like if it was anyone

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<v Speaker 1>else I was playing opposite of it, it would have

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<v Speaker 1>been a completely different movie. Like I think our relationship

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<v Speaker 1>speaks so loud.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think so too. It's just so sweet and

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<v Speaker 3>it's so fun acting with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's do it again. Let's put again please.

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<v Speaker 5>That was my question as far as like the chemistry

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<v Speaker 5>that you two have together on screen. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 5>not an easy relationship that you have through most of this,

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<v Speaker 5>So how do you you know become friends, but yet

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<v Speaker 5>maintain that distance as those characters.

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<v Speaker 1>We lived together when we filmed, and I had just

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<v Speaker 1>gotten a new puppy. So Troy like has the patience

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<v Speaker 1>and the kindness of an angel, because that that dog

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<v Speaker 1>was he was I mean, he's a baby Pluto, but

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<v Speaker 1>he was so loud and so like he was a puppy,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was just like, yeah, I don't mind living

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<v Speaker 1>with a puppy.

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<v Speaker 5>There's always that question that actors get asked, as far

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<v Speaker 5>as I know, can you ride a horse? And any

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<v Speaker 5>actor with their soult will say, yeah, yeah, of course

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<v Speaker 5>I can ride a horse. But Troy, could you ride

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<v Speaker 5>a horse? Before you got this role?

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't ride a horse? And I was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna lie. I'm not getting thrown off of a horse.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, no, I can't do this, you guys, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then really, really you didn't lie.

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<v Speaker 3>I did not lie. I was like, I can't ride

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<v Speaker 3>a horse. I don't want to die. I can't do this.

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<v Speaker 1>I lie about everything. I love that it. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>fly a plane? Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Why your plane is crazy? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? Actually ten years expence No.

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<v Speaker 3>I was so so scared, but they actually they got

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<v Speaker 3>me like horseback writing lessons before we started, which was

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<v Speaker 3>very fun, but I was very I was very scared,

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<v Speaker 3>so I would be lying about flying a plane away.

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<v Speaker 5>It's too anxious comparing how you've looked in other things

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<v Speaker 5>versus how you look in Silver Star Troy, you have

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<v Speaker 5>this dramatic shift. I mean, what all things did you

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<v Speaker 5>have to go through other than the eyepatch to get

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<v Speaker 5>to this role of Billy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was definitely like a chain in hair. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think I've ever worn my hair like that before.

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<v Speaker 3>It was really fun getting to try that style. The

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<v Speaker 3>clothes were just a lot baggier. I think the way

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<v Speaker 3>that Billy moves is just a lot different from me.

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<v Speaker 3>I think like where she leads in her body is

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<v Speaker 3>very different. But I really enjoyed it. I think usually,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't know if you can relate to this grace,

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<v Speaker 3>but I just feel like when you're a young woman,

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<v Speaker 3>you're usually getting so like dulled up for roles, which

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<v Speaker 3>can be very fun. But I think getting to play

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<v Speaker 3>someone who like wasn't getting their makeup done, wasn't wearing

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<v Speaker 3>tailored clothes like that was really cool to get to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like our characters are so opposite in my way,

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<v Speaker 1>where yeah, you usually do get onto a project and

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<v Speaker 1>they want to make you look like that'turally pretty, but

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<v Speaker 1>for you they were like no makeup, and then for

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<v Speaker 1>me they were like rainbows on her face.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you have to wear the pregnancy belly all the

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<v Speaker 5>time or was it just a shots where you showed.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all the time? I yeah, it was all the.

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<v Speaker 5>Well in both of these roles are so physical, and

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you know, Troy, you get to engage in

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<v Speaker 5>some stage combat and everything, and you guys are just

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<v Speaker 5>running all the time. It feels like, I mean, it

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<v Speaker 5>must have been an exhausting shoot for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Fun to get to do that. I think at first

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I don't even go to the gym,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I can't. I don't think I can do this.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was really enjoyable. And I think when you

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<v Speaker 3>really get into the character and like the circumstances of

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<v Speaker 3>the scene, it just I think adrenaline just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>takes over.

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<v Speaker 1>I think because I knew it with like almost everything

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<v Speaker 1>I film, I'm quite used to it. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't really complain because our director, the female counterpart of

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<v Speaker 1>the directing due we worked with. She was like eight

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<v Speaker 1>months brightant, so if I complained, I'd feel like a

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<v Speaker 1>dick because she wasn't gonna take her belly off at

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<v Speaker 1>the end.

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<v Speaker 6>Of the amount that you have to speak in the movie, Grace,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, it feels like there are times where I'm like,

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<v Speaker 6>please take breath because you're just going at it all

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<v Speaker 6>written down, or did you get to ad lib anything?

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<v Speaker 1>Both? There were moments where I ad libbed a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of it was the script, Thille. It was just a

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<v Speaker 1>really good script. I was scared because I couldn't stop

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about how annoying people were going to find me.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that's another nod Detroit because you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of take how you feel about Franny from Billy. You're like, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how is she reacting to this? And as Billy starts

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<v Speaker 1>to warm up to Franny, I feel like I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>the audience start to warm up in the same time

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<v Speaker 1>code as her. So I'm like, oh, thank you, Troy,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>And you mentioned that there's a directing duo on this

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<v Speaker 5>between Rubin and Lola, and I was curious how that was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they split it up pretty equally. Indie filmmaking is

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<v Speaker 1>there's just such a different art form towards it where

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean, just going back to Lola, like being

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<v Speaker 1>Cares, she cares. Yeah, it's really beautiful to see people care.

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<v Speaker 5>Where did you guys actually shoot this at?

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<v Speaker 5>War reenactors were those mostly real people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they were all real reenactors. Like we went to

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<v Speaker 3>that's a real reenactor's uniform, and it was really cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd never been to anything like that before.

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<v Speaker 1>It was different.

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<v Speaker 3>It was very different.

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<v Speaker 1>This is crazy, And I think what we learned about

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's like it's like a paid experience to go

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<v Speaker 1>that personally, but it was interesting to observe for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the two days, I think I was like, that

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<v Speaker 1>in history, and I think, like living out there like

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<v Speaker 1>that is wild. I was like I couldn't do it, but.

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<v Speaker 3>They killed it. They were so into it. I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>this feels very realistic.

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<v Speaker 1>It did feel very realistic.

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<v Speaker 5>This came out originally was it twenty twenty four?

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<v Speaker 1>So it went to a festival in twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, and now it's coming to theaters in

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<v Speaker 5>Have you guys seen it with an audience?

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<v Speaker 1>I have? I saw in France at that festival with

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<v Speaker 1>like hundreds of people in the audience, and Troy, I

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<v Speaker 1>wish you were there so badly.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I wish I could have been there.

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<v Speaker 1>Because but like the moments were like you're funnier or

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<v Speaker 1>Franny has her moments. Like the audience was like laughing.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like hundreds of people laughing or clapping. It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the most surreal feeling.

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<v Speaker 5>Which festival was that, do you remember?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh? Doauville?

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<v Speaker 1>And then Troy, I think you saw it in a

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<v Speaker 1>theater in La right, And then I was out of

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there was there was like a small screening, so

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<v Speaker 3>I did get to see it on like a bigger screen,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was a very small group of people and

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<v Speaker 3>So I haven't seen it with like just like a

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<v Speaker 3>normal audience of people who hadn't seen it before. But

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<v Speaker 3>I would like to are you gonna go on the thirteenth?

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<v Speaker 3>I think I am. I'm kind of like nervous, like

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<v Speaker 3>I feel very shy about it, but I do kind

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<v Speaker 3>of want to experience that.

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<v Speaker 5>It's gonna be kind of surreal to see yourself projected

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<v Speaker 5>so big on the screen, Like how has that been?

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<v Speaker 5>And have you gotten used to that feeling?

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<v Speaker 3>I've not gotten used to it. No, It's it's so

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<v Speaker 3>strange because it's like I'll be watching like this film,

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<v Speaker 3>for example, and I'm seeing like Grace act and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my gosh, she's so talented. I'm so into this.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like suspending disbelief, and then suddenly I see my

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<v Speaker 1>I get that that's relatable, you know, especially with how

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<v Speaker 1>the world is right now. Seeing my face that big

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<v Speaker 1>and how expressive I was as Franny, I'm like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, do I need to make a botox apployment?

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<v Speaker 5>Torey, what do you have coming up? What are you

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<v Speaker 5>working on these days?

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<v Speaker 3>I actually got to be in this other indie film

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<v Speaker 3>a bit ago, and that's supposed to be coming out

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<v Speaker 3>soon too, so that's like doing the fact I know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm excited that I'm it's doing like the festival circuit

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<v Speaker 3>right now too, So it's been cool to have these

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<v Speaker 3>two very different projects kind of coming out at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time. So I'm just excited for that. What's it called, Troy,

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<v Speaker 3>It's called Sugar Beach, and it's it's kind of similar

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<v Speaker 3>in that it's like a coming of age story, but

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<v Speaker 3>I think the experiences of those characters are just very different.

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<v Speaker 3>Like they're growing up in California, their families have like

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<v Speaker 3>a little more money where I think with Billy and Franny,

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<v Speaker 3>it's very much like they're on their own.

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<v Speaker 5>And Grace, I know you're over in India shooting something.

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<v Speaker 5>What else do you have coming up?

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<v Speaker 1>I keep getting thrown into horror movies, so I've got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the scary genre stuff coming out. I

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<v Speaker 1>told you they want me dead.

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<v Speaker 5>I definitely remember Troy, you were in what Totally Killer?

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't Totally Killer? Yeah, that was it was super fun. Love.

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<v Speaker 3>I love horror movies, so I'm very excited to watch

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<v Speaker 3>everything that Grace is making right now and acting in

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<v Speaker 3>them is just the craziest, most fun experience.

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<v Speaker 5>Definitely feels like we're in a really golden time for

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<v Speaker 5>horror films. I mean, seeing trailers just this weekend for

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<v Speaker 5>they Will Kill You or Ready or not too. I mean, nice,

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<v Speaker 5>strong female protagonists leading these horror films is pretty great.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 5>And then having two strong leads and Silver Star is

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<v Speaker 5>fantastic as well. So that was so nice to have

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<v Speaker 5>both of you up there. And yeah, that chemistry between

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<v Speaker 5>you is so great and I just could really tell

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<v Speaker 5>that behind the scenes. You definitely had a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>good friendship going.

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<v Speaker 1>On Silver Star. The sequel is just us running away

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<v Speaker 1>from a serial killer.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll do it, honestly, that's sounds great.

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<v Speaker 5>Who's going to be pregnant this time? We both are,

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<v Speaker 5>right and Grace, thank you so much for your time.

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<v Speaker 5>This was so great, and Grace, thank you so much

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<v Speaker 5>for setting this up.

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<v Speaker 3>No, thank you so.

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<v Speaker 4>Much, and thank you for the pop up questions, thank you.

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