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And I 59 00:03:07.370 --> 00:03:08.370 bet that'll get you right there. 60 00:03:08.530 --> 00:03:09.330 Google crooked media. 61 00:03:09.370 --> 00:03:10.789 I bet that'll get you right there. 62 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:14.259 Crooked Media, subscribe. More Dan. That's what you do. 63 00:03:14.699 --> 00:03:16.360 All right, let's get to the news. Donald Trump had 64 00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:20.219 another big week of losing wars, raising prices, and changing maps. 65 00:03:20.759 --> 00:03:24.000 His only public event on Thursday was a signing ceremony 66 00:03:24.060 --> 00:03:26.740 in the Oval Office where he officially changed the name 67 00:03:26.780 --> 00:03:30.819 of Lake Ontario to Lake America and said that either 68 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:34.879 the Atlantic or Pacific Ocean may be next because our 69 00:03:34.919 --> 00:03:38.930 president is a moron. Let's listen to how he explained 70 00:03:39.379 --> 00:03:40.500 the Lake Ontario change. 71 00:03:41.000 --> 00:03:45.379 So this is Lake Ontario in Canada and in the 72 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:48.360 United States. But we're gonna make a little change. We're 73 00:03:48.379 --> 00:03:50.780 gonna call it something different than Lake Ontario. We're gonna 74 00:03:50.819 --> 00:03:54.319 call it Lake America. And all it takes is a 75 00:03:54.370 --> 00:04:00.009 good pen and some intelligence. So Lake Ontario, that's gone. 76 00:04:00.810 --> 00:04:11.400 Lake America. So now we have a lake. And now 77 00:04:11.439 --> 00:04:15.680 we have a Gulf because we have the Gulf of America. 78 00:04:15.699 --> 00:04:19.790 Now we have Lake America without the of. Thank you 79 00:04:19.810 --> 00:04:22.930 very much, everybody. Enjoy Lake America. 80 00:04:23.329 --> 00:04:25.610 Enjoy Lake America without the of. 81 00:04:26.370 --> 00:04:26.930 Without the of. 82 00:04:27.449 --> 00:04:29.790 Now, if you're all concerned that Trump isn't paying enough 83 00:04:29.829 --> 00:04:33.209 attention to the other stupid war he started that's now 84 00:04:33.800 --> 00:04:37.259 bankrupting the country, fear not. The president posted some great 85 00:04:37.319 --> 00:04:41.000 news about Iran this morning. Let's check out. What he 86 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:45.370 put on Truth Social. That is an AI image, although 87 00:04:45.449 --> 00:04:49.110 Austin claims maybe it's photoshopped. Either one. But it's Donald Trump, 88 00:04:50.009 --> 00:04:53.550 the American flag behind him, some fighter jets. In the 89 00:04:53.629 --> 00:04:56.970 corner is George Bush, a picture of George Bush. And 90 00:04:56.990 --> 00:05:00.800 it says, mission not accomplished. And then in the other corner, 91 00:05:01.180 --> 00:05:06.000 there's the Ayatollah for some reason. And it says, mission 92 00:05:06.040 --> 00:05:08.040 accomplished 2026. 93 00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:10.259 Is that the dead Ayatollah or the other one? 94 00:05:10.500 --> 00:05:11.040 Who's to know? 95 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:11.660 We don't know. 96 00:05:11.699 --> 00:05:12.160 Who's to know? 97 00:05:12.459 --> 00:05:12.920 We don't know. 98 00:05:13.339 --> 00:05:17.300 Is it the dead Ayatollah or the new potentially gay 99 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:19.680 disfigured Ayatollah? 100 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:23.220 Look, what you're going for in this moment is slightly 101 00:05:23.240 --> 00:05:26.060 better than George W. Bush's Iraq war. That's the message. 102 00:05:26.759 --> 00:05:29.199 And you definitely want to use the phrase because you 103 00:05:29.290 --> 00:05:32.009 really want– when people think about the Iran war, you 104 00:05:32.050 --> 00:05:37.189 want it to evoke the last biggest foreign policy disaster ever. 105 00:05:38.019 --> 00:05:40.870 from a Republican president, which is the war in Iraq. 106 00:05:40.910 --> 00:05:43.310 So you just want to make sure that the public 107 00:05:43.370 --> 00:05:46.709 is connecting those two things in their mind, even though 108 00:05:47.050 --> 00:05:51.430 the war is still very much raging because Donald Trump 109 00:05:51.850 --> 00:05:56.089 is a fucking moron who is busy changing the name 110 00:05:56.889 --> 00:06:01.089 of a Great Lake with a Sharpie and an executive order, 111 00:06:01.550 --> 00:06:04.370 as opposed to focusing on any of the other problems 112 00:06:04.410 --> 00:06:04.850 that we have. 113 00:06:05.410 --> 00:06:06.310 Yeah, he's doing great. 114 00:06:07.029 --> 00:06:08.189 What did you think about that, Dan? What do you 115 00:06:08.209 --> 00:06:11.430 think about the big Lake Ontario change? This is why 116 00:06:11.470 --> 00:06:14.699 we get paid the big bucks, to analyze the Lake 117 00:06:14.939 --> 00:06:16.220 Ontario change. 118 00:06:17.819 --> 00:06:18.959 It's a huge deal, John. 119 00:06:19.060 --> 00:06:19.879 That's a huge deal. 120 00:06:20.220 --> 00:06:23.480 The takeaway for me, I have two takeaways here, because 121 00:06:23.660 --> 00:06:25.480 that's my job is to have takeaways on dumb shit 122 00:06:25.519 --> 00:06:25.939 like this. 123 00:06:27.240 --> 00:06:27.959 Ten years running. 124 00:06:28.500 --> 00:06:32.689 Ten years running of hot takes on dumb shit. Great 125 00:06:32.750 --> 00:06:35.889 name for the pod. That was the runner-up to Pod 126 00:06:35.910 --> 00:06:38.339 Save America. Donald Trump is not even good at trolling anymore. 127 00:06:38.360 --> 00:06:39.600 I know. 128 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:42.740 Like it's just– like he is– I mean we've said 129 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:44.480 this before. He's lost his fastball. But he's just– there's 130 00:06:44.519 --> 00:06:48.319 like this– you can almost feel the relevance just declining 131 00:06:48.339 --> 00:06:51.689 with every passing moment that people don't care. And he 132 00:06:51.730 --> 00:06:53.589 can't even– like he does this for outrage. 133 00:06:53.629 --> 00:06:54.110 He can't do it. 134 00:06:54.509 --> 00:06:57.790 The second thing is that Democrats in the world have 135 00:06:57.829 --> 00:07:00.269 kind of figured out how to react to Trump. Like 136 00:07:00.290 --> 00:07:01.910 when this happened with the Gulf of America or imagine 137 00:07:01.930 --> 00:07:04.870 if this happened four years ago, Everyone would be screaming 138 00:07:04.889 --> 00:07:07.350 from the rooftops, you know, what a gigantic deal this is. 139 00:07:08.089 --> 00:07:11.189 You know, what an embarrassment for America. How dare he 140 00:07:11.339 --> 00:07:17.160 politicize the once independent board of geographic names? And, you know, 141 00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:18.779 just like people would like– Stacking. 142 00:07:18.439 --> 00:07:21.120 It with cronies. Exactly. 143 00:07:21.740 --> 00:07:25.699 That was the foundation of the American system. Democracy is 144 00:07:25.759 --> 00:07:29.560 at risk. We can't even count on lake naming anymore. And, 145 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:31.620 you know, and like last year, people were like, oh, 146 00:07:31.639 --> 00:07:33.810 my God, what do we do if we don't change– 147 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:36.639 On our map, Trump will prosecute us. I mean, if 148 00:07:37.060 --> 00:07:38.920 you remember, this is what got the AP banned from 149 00:07:38.939 --> 00:07:39.480 the White House. 150 00:07:39.500 --> 00:07:42.259 Oh, my God. I did forget that. 151 00:07:42.360 --> 00:07:44.740 They refused to call it the Gulf of America. Now, 152 00:07:44.819 --> 00:07:45.319 no one cares. 153 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:46.259 No. 154 00:07:46.620 --> 00:07:50.149 Although, it's kind of funny. I don't care about it 155 00:07:50.170 --> 00:07:51.870 that much. But I have seen some people be like, 156 00:07:52.550 --> 00:07:56.069 Do you think he actually knows that Lake Ontario was 157 00:07:56.250 --> 00:07:59.660 not named after the Canadian province or named by Canada, 158 00:07:59.939 --> 00:08:04.800 but it's an indigenous name from hundreds of years before? 159 00:08:04.819 --> 00:08:07.560 And I was like, guys, guys, of course, we don't 160 00:08:07.579 --> 00:08:10.730 need to go down that road. He wasn't thinking about that. 161 00:08:10.990 --> 00:08:13.250 And if you corrected him in advance, that wouldn't have 162 00:08:13.290 --> 00:08:15.149 made a difference. Yes, yes. 163 00:08:15.310 --> 00:08:16.930 I just think it's better to respond to these things 164 00:08:16.949 --> 00:08:18.110 with ridicule than outrage. 165 00:08:18.230 --> 00:08:18.670 Yes. 166 00:08:20.009 --> 00:08:24.439 I guess the other option is to actually him. 167 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:29.180 Fucking moron. Fucking moron. 168 00:08:29.279 --> 00:08:30.399 It's so stupid. 169 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:34.000 On a completely related note, Trump's approval rating is underwater 170 00:08:34.039 --> 00:08:39.389 by about 20 points with just 67 days until the midterms. 171 00:08:39.429 --> 00:08:42.730 For comparison, he was only about 11 and a half 172 00:08:42.809 --> 00:08:47.070 points underwater at this point. before the 2018 midterms, which 173 00:08:47.129 --> 00:08:50.529 is about the same as Joe Biden before the 2022 midterms. 174 00:08:51.429 --> 00:08:54.379 But according to The Atlantic, Trump recently met with his 175 00:08:54.389 --> 00:08:57.240 advisors in the Oval to come up with a strategy 176 00:08:57.460 --> 00:09:01.200 to overcome his dog shit approval ratings ahead of the midterms. 177 00:09:01.820 --> 00:09:02.360 And here it is. 178 00:09:02.899 --> 00:09:04.820 There's a theory that I get the vote. You know, 179 00:09:04.919 --> 00:09:07.759 I see it all the time that when Trump's on 180 00:09:07.779 --> 00:09:09.840 the ballot, they win. When he's out of the ballot, 181 00:09:09.860 --> 00:09:11.519 the people don't go to vote. And I'm asking the 182 00:09:11.559 --> 00:09:15.330 people through your brilliant show, number one show, I'm asking 183 00:09:15.350 --> 00:09:17.049 the people to get out and vote. Pretend I'm on 184 00:09:17.070 --> 00:09:17.470 the ballot. 185 00:09:19.029 --> 00:09:21.059 That's it. What do you think of that? That's a 186 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:22.919 good strategy, right? Just in case you thought he was 187 00:09:22.980 --> 00:09:27.639 riffing there, here's the headline from the Atlantic piece I 188 00:09:27.659 --> 00:09:30.519 was just referring to about that meeting. Trump plans to 189 00:09:30.580 --> 00:09:34.399 buy midterm ads about his own record. The president has 190 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:36.320 come up with a simple plan to win the election. 191 00:09:37.100 --> 00:09:37.600 More Trump. 192 00:09:38.159 --> 00:09:39.879 That is Trump's solution to every problem. 193 00:09:39.970 --> 00:09:40.330 More Trump. 194 00:09:40.370 --> 00:09:40.990 Is more Trump. 195 00:09:41.230 --> 00:09:42.230 Think that'll do it this time? 196 00:09:42.629 --> 00:09:44.009 Doesn't work when the problem is Trump. 197 00:09:44.659 --> 00:09:44.919 Trump. 198 00:09:47.779 --> 00:09:50.750 I mean, my simple response is, where can I donate? 199 00:09:51.850 --> 00:09:52.909 I couldn't ask for any. 200 00:09:53.649 --> 00:09:54.029 Great. 201 00:09:54.470 --> 00:09:54.919 Go for it. 202 00:09:55.110 --> 00:09:56.679 Run more. Run more ads. 203 00:09:56.690 --> 00:10:03.409 Make sure that everyone understands. that Mike Rogers, Susan Collins, 204 00:10:03.669 --> 00:10:06.879 John Husted, all these people are completely associated with Donald Trump. 205 00:10:07.460 --> 00:10:10.440 A man whose approval rating is underwater in every state 206 00:10:10.460 --> 00:10:14.399 in this country, there is no race, I think, anywhere 207 00:10:14.440 --> 00:10:17.190 where Trump is a net positive candidate. It's just a 208 00:10:17.210 --> 00:10:19.230 question of how big an anvil he's going to be 209 00:10:19.250 --> 00:10:20.110 for the Republican on the ballot. 210 00:10:20.250 --> 00:10:20.370 Yeah. 211 00:10:20.389 --> 00:10:22.649 I mean, if everyone pretended that Trump was on the 212 00:10:22.690 --> 00:10:26.529 ballot and everyone voted based on how they view the 213 00:10:26.549 --> 00:10:31.509 job that Trump's doing, Democrats would win a Senate majority 214 00:10:31.789 --> 00:10:32.850 and a huge House majority. 215 00:10:33.029 --> 00:10:33.210 Yes. 216 00:10:33.309 --> 00:10:37.110 If every Trump disapprover voted for a Democrat, that would 217 00:10:37.149 --> 00:10:39.129 be a 20-point generic ballot, just to do some very 218 00:10:39.149 --> 00:10:39.769 fast math there. 219 00:10:41.009 --> 00:10:42.769 It's funny that there's one sentence in the Atlantic piece 220 00:10:42.820 --> 00:10:46.279 that says, Some GOP strategists favor focusing entirely on specific 221 00:10:46.340 --> 00:10:48.570 races in an effort to convince voters of the merits 222 00:10:48.610 --> 00:10:53.169 of individual candidates on local issues. Yeah, yeah, that might 223 00:10:53.190 --> 00:10:55.610 be a good idea. I guess that one didn't get 224 00:10:55.649 --> 00:10:56.590 through the brainstorm. 225 00:10:57.149 --> 00:11:02.450 You know, Biden, to his credit, I think in 2022, 226 00:11:02.450 --> 00:11:06.509 he basically just backed away. He didn't campaign. He sort of, 227 00:11:06.629 --> 00:11:09.500 his advisors, other than that one democracy speech he gave 228 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:10.059 at the very end. 229 00:11:10.080 --> 00:11:12.120 Right, where they all basically looked like Satan, yeah. 230 00:11:12.710 --> 00:11:15.529 Which then sort of– basically the success of that speech 231 00:11:15.549 --> 00:11:18.960 sort of unwound democracy itself. But that's neither here nor there. 232 00:11:19.009 --> 00:11:22.860 But he had enough self-awareness to not force himself into 233 00:11:22.879 --> 00:11:27.440 the conversation. Same thing with Obama in 2010, George W. 234 00:11:27.500 --> 00:11:30.440 Bush in 2006. But Donald Trump is not capable of that. 235 00:11:30.500 --> 00:11:31.820 So he has to make it about himself, which is 236 00:11:31.899 --> 00:11:33.460 only going to help Democrats because it's not going to 237 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:37.460 turn out more Republicans. It's just going to further polarize 238 00:11:37.539 --> 00:11:40.830 independents and disaffected Trump voters against Democrats. Republican candidates. 239 00:11:41.049 --> 00:11:43.590 Yeah. I laughed at the part of the story where 240 00:11:44.610 --> 00:11:48.500 his advisors told him that his bad polling is just 241 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:51.580 because the public still just doesn't know about all of 242 00:11:51.620 --> 00:11:52.340 his accomplishments. 243 00:11:52.559 --> 00:11:54.779 Did it run more ads about them? Run ads? Look, 244 00:11:54.980 --> 00:11:55.980 I think what you got to do is you got 245 00:11:56.039 --> 00:11:59.179 to tell people about the big, beautiful bill. Not enough 246 00:11:59.240 --> 00:12:00.730 rich people know about the tax cuts they're getting, and 247 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:01.710 you should run an ad about that. 248 00:12:02.389 --> 00:12:04.539 It's just so great. That's what it is. 249 00:12:04.549 --> 00:12:05.850 When I read that story, I was so happy. 250 00:12:06.009 --> 00:12:09.509 It's such a good story. I mean, I can't wait 251 00:12:09.529 --> 00:12:11.269 to start seeing these ads. What do you think these 252 00:12:11.350 --> 00:12:13.669 ads are going to be? Do you think that, like, 253 00:12:13.740 --> 00:12:15.120 this is what they tell them and they're like, oh, 254 00:12:15.159 --> 00:12:18.860 the accomplishments and that it'll be like 10% accomplishments and 255 00:12:18.860 --> 00:12:22.980 90% just, you know, we're running against a bunch of communists, 256 00:12:23.720 --> 00:12:28.730 Islamists and terrorists and, you know, we're going to destroy 257 00:12:28.750 --> 00:12:31.629 the country. Like, it feels like that would be their 258 00:12:32.049 --> 00:12:32.889 best use of money. 259 00:12:32.909 --> 00:12:35.330 I think what is likely going to happen here is. 260 00:12:36.950 --> 00:12:38.610 And I'll give an analogy here from my career. I 261 00:12:38.669 --> 00:12:41.029 once worked for a candidate who really, really believed that 262 00:12:41.070 --> 00:12:42.250 yard signs were incredibly important. 263 00:12:42.669 --> 00:12:43.509 That what signs? 264 00:12:43.830 --> 00:12:44.230 Yard signs. 265 00:12:44.269 --> 00:12:44.649 Oh, yard signs. 266 00:12:44.669 --> 00:12:47.960 Obsessed with yard signs. And so the field staff just 267 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:52.639 put yard signs up in the candidate's neighborhood on the 268 00:12:52.659 --> 00:12:53.600 way to the office and on the way to the 269 00:12:53.620 --> 00:12:57.649 airport and didn't work anywhere else. So my suspicion here 270 00:12:57.870 --> 00:12:59.669 is that there are going to be a lot of 271 00:12:59.809 --> 00:13:03.409 ads about Trump's accomplishments on Fox News. National cable buy, Mr. 272 00:13:03.429 --> 00:13:05.190 President. Right in between the catheter ads. 273 00:13:07.210 --> 00:13:12.090 You can buy gold, a doomsday kit, a catheter, life insurance. 274 00:13:12.289 --> 00:13:13.720 And then find out about Trump's accomplishments. 275 00:13:13.750 --> 00:13:14.269 Find out about Trump. 276 00:13:14.320 --> 00:13:16.259 Which you can't find out anywhere else on Fox. 277 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:19.200 Not on Fox News, no. There was no discussion of Trump. 278 00:13:19.720 --> 00:13:22.220 I do want to read you a quote from a 279 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:26.179 big MAGA influencer on Twitter. Quote, I don't think the 280 00:13:26.230 --> 00:13:29.549 GOP fully grasp how badly they're fucking up right now. 281 00:13:29.690 --> 00:13:32.789 I'm very worried the GOP is sleepwalking toward a midterm 282 00:13:32.870 --> 00:13:36.159 reckoning they don't see coming. And this is a post 283 00:13:36.940 --> 00:13:39.200 that I saw because it went viral. And the reason 284 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:43.299 it went viral is because it was reposted by Donald Trump. 285 00:13:44.419 --> 00:13:48.320 What do you think? You think he didn't quite know? 286 00:13:48.340 --> 00:13:49.919 Do you think he didn't read the post? 287 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:51.299 No, I think he read the post. 288 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:54.600 You think he just– he thinks it's the GOP. It's 289 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:57.139 not me. I'm not at fault here. 290 00:13:57.519 --> 00:14:00.480 We are watching in real time as his brain tries 291 00:14:00.539 --> 00:14:05.149 to reconcile– an ass-whipping in the midterm with his own 292 00:14:05.210 --> 00:14:09.370 personal view that he's infallible. And so it's got to 293 00:14:09.389 --> 00:14:11.049 be someone's fault. He's going to start blaming the Republicans 294 00:14:11.169 --> 00:14:14.360 long before the votes are cast. They ran away from him. 295 00:14:14.399 --> 00:14:15.879 They didn't talk about the big, beautiful bill. They didn't 296 00:14:15.899 --> 00:14:19.019 talk about his accomplishments. No one talked about, you know, 297 00:14:19.059 --> 00:14:21.580 he's just going to be like, John Husted never ran 298 00:14:21.740 --> 00:14:24.059 on Lake America. Never talked about it. 299 00:14:24.259 --> 00:14:28.100 All this tells me is I just, I'm imagining how 300 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:31.980 the 2028 Republican primary is going to go and the 301 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:35.809 whole race. Because anytime there's bad polls for the Republican 302 00:14:35.830 --> 00:14:39.129 nominee or things like Donald Trump, he is just like 303 00:14:39.149 --> 00:14:40.559 you said, he's not going to be able to keep 304 00:14:40.600 --> 00:14:42.500 himself out of it. He's not going to be able 305 00:14:42.559 --> 00:14:45.399 and he's going to he will I guarantee he will 306 00:14:45.460 --> 00:14:51.590 end up like criticizing, if not indirectly, directly the Republican nominee, 307 00:14:53.250 --> 00:14:54.269 because that's just who he is. 308 00:14:54.789 --> 00:14:56.529 When I work for Al Gore towards the end of 309 00:14:56.549 --> 00:14:59.529 the campaign in my in my very, very low right 310 00:14:59.570 --> 00:15:02.509 out of college job for Al Gore. Bill Clinton. That 311 00:15:02.529 --> 00:15:05.450 was a big tension point this week. Bill Clinton. Al 312 00:15:05.470 --> 00:15:08.049 Gore was a problem for Al Gore, didn't campaign with him. 313 00:15:08.059 --> 00:15:09.919 Bill Clinton was very mad about this. Bill Clinton picked 314 00:15:09.940 --> 00:15:12.879 up the phone and called– can you remember the Washington 315 00:15:12.899 --> 00:15:15.360 Post and New York Times reporter to essentially– he couldn't 316 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:17.299 take it anymore and complain about it and it became 317 00:15:17.340 --> 00:15:20.570 a gigantic story. And the problem for J.D. Vance, Marco Rubio, 318 00:15:20.610 --> 00:15:23.009 whoever else is that every reporter in America has Donald 319 00:15:23.029 --> 00:15:24.450 Trump's cell phone number. So the number of them who 320 00:15:24.490 --> 00:15:26.429 are going to get him on the phone when he's 321 00:15:26.490 --> 00:15:31.039 like on the toilet watching TV– whatever else where he's 322 00:15:31.059 --> 00:15:31.879 just going to unload. 323 00:15:32.100 --> 00:15:33.519 They're not going to need to get him on the phone. 324 00:15:33.860 --> 00:15:36.059 He's going to go into the oval every day, gather 325 00:15:36.080 --> 00:15:38.480 all the cameras and say whatever the fuck he wants 326 00:15:38.519 --> 00:15:39.000 to say. 327 00:15:39.100 --> 00:15:39.240 Yeah. 328 00:15:39.360 --> 00:15:42.570 And yeah, he won't shut like George W. Bush basically 329 00:15:42.590 --> 00:15:45.730 stopped being president. And as soon as the 2008 campaign started, 330 00:15:45.750 --> 00:15:47.590 I mean, in every way, he stopped being president, but 331 00:15:48.009 --> 00:15:50.549 he was, you never saw him again. He did like 332 00:15:50.610 --> 00:15:53.529 no events, did nothing. And because he knew that he 333 00:15:53.590 --> 00:15:56.929 was a gigantic net negative for the Republicans, Donald Trump 334 00:15:56.980 --> 00:15:58.559 will not have that level of self-awareness. 335 00:15:58.990 --> 00:16:01.309 You think he'll be on the trail all the time 336 00:16:01.350 --> 00:16:02.889 in the next couple months for the midterms? 337 00:16:03.570 --> 00:16:06.730 No, only because he's gotten quite lazy in his old age, maybe. 338 00:16:07.070 --> 00:16:08.889 I'm sure there will be some rallies, and they will 339 00:16:08.909 --> 00:16:12.019 probably be in– Texas is probably a place where I 340 00:16:12.009 --> 00:16:13.980 could see him going because Ken Paxton will want him 341 00:16:14.100 --> 00:16:15.700 in Texas because he's Ken Paxton. 342 00:16:16.200 --> 00:16:17.460 He's going tonight. We're recording this on Thursday. 343 00:16:17.480 --> 00:16:18.259 Yeah, and he's going tonight. 344 00:16:18.360 --> 00:16:19.860 He'll be there tonight for a fundraiser, yeah. 345 00:16:20.539 --> 00:16:23.580 But is that a place where he'd do rallies? I mean, 346 00:16:23.779 --> 00:16:27.070 there would be an argument– that he you can understand 347 00:16:27.090 --> 00:16:28.509 an argument of like you have to turn out trump 348 00:16:28.529 --> 00:16:30.700 voters in these red states and maybe you know if 349 00:16:30.740 --> 00:16:35.360 you are um ashley hinson in iowa that you would 350 00:16:35.419 --> 00:16:37.519 want him to to jet up turn out in like 351 00:16:37.539 --> 00:16:39.820 the rural area so maybe he'll campaign which will be 352 00:16:40.200 --> 00:16:41.990 the thing is is that that is not limited to 353 00:16:42.110 --> 00:16:44.009 iowa so that's going to have an impact in maine 354 00:16:44.470 --> 00:16:47.450 in michigan and these districts in california in new york 355 00:16:47.490 --> 00:16:49.379 the democrats are trying to win so He will be 356 00:16:49.419 --> 00:16:51.759 present in the conversation, which is, I think, in the 357 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:52.740 long run, great for Democrats. 358 00:16:52.899 --> 00:16:55.059 And again, if he's too lazy to take his fat 359 00:16:55.100 --> 00:16:57.500 ass out of the White House, he will be moseying 360 00:16:57.580 --> 00:17:00.240 on into the Oval every day and just holding court 361 00:17:00.340 --> 00:17:02.919 with all the reporters while the Republican candidates are out 362 00:17:02.940 --> 00:17:06.539 there trying to distance themselves from Trump or, you know, 363 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:08.740 get their own message out there or whatever they are 364 00:17:08.779 --> 00:17:10.599 trying to do. They won't be able to do it 365 00:17:10.680 --> 00:17:13.019 because Donald Trump is going to be in the way. 366 00:17:13.039 --> 00:17:14.920 I mean, there are a lot of cities in American-named 367 00:17:14.980 --> 00:17:16.849 Ontario that he could start renaming right now. 368 00:17:17.690 --> 00:17:21.490 I mean, he previewed the Atlantic or Pacific name change 369 00:17:22.019 --> 00:17:23.559 that's coming. So we probably have that beat. 370 00:17:23.799 --> 00:17:25.279 Still hasn't dealt with New Mexico yet. 371 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:28.640 That is just– it's sitting right there. Sitting right there. 372 00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:30.779 Just in time for it to be an early primary 373 00:17:30.819 --> 00:17:32.079 state for the Democrats. 374 00:17:32.660 --> 00:17:34.819 Oh, there goes John Ossoff and Kamala Harris and AOC 375 00:17:34.839 --> 00:17:35.500 to new America. 376 00:17:38.740 --> 00:17:41.920 Fortunately, Trump's pathological narcissism is the gift that keeps on 377 00:17:41.960 --> 00:17:44.700 giving for the Democratic Party because in just a few 378 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:48.190 weeks– He's also going to make every Republican candidate on 379 00:17:48.210 --> 00:17:53.619 the ballot endure a first-of-its-kind two-night midterm convention in Dallas. 380 00:17:54.140 --> 00:17:57.079 This is on September 9th and 10th. By the way, 381 00:17:57.099 --> 00:18:01.019 did you see it's going to be the opening NFL 382 00:18:01.039 --> 00:18:06.200 game on the 9th? The Pats and the Seahawks. And 383 00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:08.220 then the 10th is the second game. So that's two 384 00:18:08.339 --> 00:18:13.069 NFL games, primetime. Donald Trump's convention will be happening at 385 00:18:13.089 --> 00:18:13.490 the same time. 386 00:18:14.349 --> 00:18:15.269 Is the second one on Netflix? 387 00:18:15.920 --> 00:18:19.240 Yes, because it's in Australia. Yeah. 388 00:18:21.029 --> 00:18:27.650 This was a noble thing. It's very well known when 389 00:18:27.670 --> 00:18:30.009 the NFL season starts that they've been selling tickets to 390 00:18:30.029 --> 00:18:32.049 those games for a very long time. You didn't have 391 00:18:32.069 --> 00:18:33.390 to do it that week. Nope. You could have done 392 00:18:33.470 --> 00:18:35.269 it Tuesday and Wednesday. 393 00:18:35.789 --> 00:18:37.170 Could have done it Tuesday and Wednesday. Could have done 394 00:18:37.210 --> 00:18:37.809 it the following week. 395 00:18:37.829 --> 00:18:40.990 In fact, every Thursday for the next 18 weeks after that, 396 00:18:41.259 --> 00:18:43.799 they're out. You can't do that. Thursdays and Mondays, not 397 00:18:43.819 --> 00:18:45.579 a good time to do primetime addresses during football season. 398 00:18:46.930 --> 00:18:50.690 Here are some details on how the RNC chair is 399 00:18:50.710 --> 00:18:53.769 feeling about this. Listen, it's going to be a trombopalooza. 400 00:18:53.809 --> 00:18:58.130 It's going to be spectacular, star-studded event, obviously headlined by 401 00:18:58.210 --> 00:18:59.930 the best showman that's ever lived in Donald J. 402 00:18:59.950 --> 00:19:00.230 Trump. 403 00:19:00.390 --> 00:19:04.450 An RNC official tells us a primetime showcase for President 404 00:19:04.470 --> 00:19:09.349 Trump's success, candidates, and causes that have propelled the 2026 405 00:19:09.349 --> 00:19:13.670 midterms to unprecedented focus. There is also going to be 406 00:19:13.690 --> 00:19:16.450 a commemoration of the 25th anniversary of 9-11 and a 407 00:19:16.990 --> 00:19:21.210 section about Charlie Kirk's legacy mobilizing young voters for Republicans. 408 00:19:21.329 --> 00:19:25.559 Wow. Just wow. Did you know that that was the Republican, 409 00:19:25.650 --> 00:19:26.730 the chairman of the RNC? 410 00:19:27.140 --> 00:19:29.619 You know, it's interesting because I did not know who 411 00:19:29.660 --> 00:19:30.920 he was or what he looked like. And then I 412 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:34.779 watched a separate interview with that guy today from it 413 00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:39.160 on CBS, where he says the exact same words, Trumpapalooza, 414 00:19:39.440 --> 00:19:43.230 greatest showman on earth. So it wasn't like a one-off, 415 00:19:43.269 --> 00:19:47.680 we're just on Newsmax thing. this is the message is trombopalooza. 416 00:19:47.299 --> 00:19:49.160 Tommy and i talked about him yesterday check out our 417 00:19:49.359 --> 00:19:53.160 our youtube for extra content subscribe um and after talking 418 00:19:53.180 --> 00:19:55.240 about him yesterday i still don't remember what his name. 419 00:19:55.180 --> 00:19:58.950 Is yeah gruters we have like it literally was on 420 00:19:58.970 --> 00:20:01.910 the screen one second ago and really a forgettable face who. 421 00:20:01.769 --> 00:20:04.750 Cares who cares what would you guess is the thinking 422 00:20:04.789 --> 00:20:08.230 behind uh this this boondoggle Just more of like what 423 00:20:08.250 --> 00:20:10.170 we got in that Atlantic story that Trump was just like, 424 00:20:10.210 --> 00:20:11.049 got to make this about me. 425 00:20:11.450 --> 00:20:11.609 Yeah. 426 00:20:11.630 --> 00:20:13.289 I mean, that's certainly a part of it. I think 427 00:20:13.329 --> 00:20:15.710 this was his idea. He came up with it. He's 428 00:20:15.750 --> 00:20:20.319 made that clear to everyone. I think if you think 429 00:20:20.359 --> 00:20:25.259 back to Milwaukee Republican convention, you know how most candidates 430 00:20:25.400 --> 00:20:28.180 campaign throughout the convention, then they arrive at the convention 431 00:20:28.200 --> 00:20:30.319 the day of their speech and they make their grand entrance. 432 00:20:30.500 --> 00:20:31.900 Maybe they come to get there the night before and 433 00:20:31.920 --> 00:20:34.670 do the, they accept the nomination. Then they do their speech. 434 00:20:34.690 --> 00:20:37.559 If you remember, Trump went, Every single day. It was 435 00:20:37.579 --> 00:20:40.599 Milwaukee the whole time. He sat in a box the 436 00:20:40.680 --> 00:20:41.160 whole time. 437 00:20:41.500 --> 00:20:42.279 Oh yeah, that's right. 438 00:20:42.440 --> 00:20:45.279 And while in that box, when he wasn't sleeping, he 439 00:20:45.299 --> 00:20:47.039 just sat there with a shit-eating grin on his face 440 00:20:47.079 --> 00:20:50.279 and watched people praise him. I think that was probably 441 00:20:50.299 --> 00:20:52.759 one of the greatest moments of his life. And I 442 00:20:52.779 --> 00:20:54.599 think he's trying to replicate that. I really do think 443 00:20:54.619 --> 00:20:56.420 he wants people to say, he wants to create a 444 00:20:56.460 --> 00:20:59.559 forum where people say nice things to him, to his face. 445 00:21:00.059 --> 00:21:02.240 Just so we don't get too excited here, I was 446 00:21:02.259 --> 00:21:04.700 trying to think, is there any world in which this 447 00:21:04.789 --> 00:21:08.009 convention turns out to be A net positive for Republicans, 448 00:21:08.049 --> 00:21:11.069 you know, will be two nights of primetime of just 449 00:21:11.150 --> 00:21:15.210 them trashing every Democratic candidate and just dumping out the 450 00:21:15.309 --> 00:21:16.849 oppo file on all of them. 451 00:21:16.890 --> 00:21:19.470 Who do you think is going to cover it? 452 00:21:19.529 --> 00:21:24.809 Just the cables. Yeah, I think I think MS I 453 00:21:24.829 --> 00:21:27.569 would bet that MS and CNN cover Trump's speech and 454 00:21:27.609 --> 00:21:30.349 Vance's speech. But I can't imagine they're going to cover 455 00:21:30.369 --> 00:21:32.210 much more than that. Fox, you know, the whole the 456 00:21:32.230 --> 00:21:32.609 whole thing. 457 00:21:33.170 --> 00:21:35.130 I'm sure they'll use it. They'll have reporters there and 458 00:21:35.150 --> 00:21:37.890 they'll use it as content during the day. I don't 459 00:21:37.910 --> 00:21:40.390 think that content will necessarily be good for Republicans, but 460 00:21:40.430 --> 00:21:42.130 I don't think these speeches are going to get covered 461 00:21:42.150 --> 00:21:44.579 and seen by a lot of people other than Fox viewers. 462 00:21:44.980 --> 00:21:49.700 Republican strategists are saying that it's turned into a, quote, 463 00:21:49.779 --> 00:21:54.619 shit show. This was to Puck. And do you know 464 00:21:54.640 --> 00:21:57.349 the National Republican Campaign Committee is asking House members to 465 00:21:57.380 --> 00:22:00.750 cough up $ 25, 000 for themselves and a guest to attend 466 00:22:00.950 --> 00:22:05.390 the convention? And that's the cheaper rate. The top rate 467 00:22:05.430 --> 00:22:11.589 is $ 100, 000. 468 00:22:07.950 --> 00:22:10.299 It's a con, right? It's just like another way to 469 00:22:10.900 --> 00:22:11.299 make money. 470 00:22:12.180 --> 00:22:14.500 Un-fucking-believable. It's amazing. 471 00:22:14.539 --> 00:22:15.160 Make it four days. 472 00:22:15.740 --> 00:22:19.500 The Republican strategist added to Puck, nobody understands why we're 473 00:22:19.539 --> 00:22:22.779 doing a midterm convention. It's just another show that Trump 474 00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:24.700 is going to put on to remind the voters that 475 00:22:24.740 --> 00:22:27.059 he is sitting there. And maybe they don't want to 476 00:22:27.099 --> 00:22:29.119 be reminded of that. Ouch. 477 00:22:29.660 --> 00:22:29.980 Perfect. 478 00:22:30.119 --> 00:22:35.579 That's exactly right. Republican strategist. So, so good. Of course, anonymous, 479 00:22:35.740 --> 00:22:38.740 of course. Don't want to upset Mr. Trump. 480 00:22:47.109 --> 00:22:50.910 This podcast is sponsored by Squarespace. Squarespace is the all-in-one 481 00:22:50.950 --> 00:22:53.769 website platform designed to elevate your online presence and drive 482 00:22:53.789 --> 00:22:57.049 your success. Squarespace provides all the tools you need to 483 00:22:57.089 --> 00:22:59.380 promote and get paid for your services in one platform only. 484 00:22:59.630 --> 00:23:03.289 whether you offer consultations, events, or other experiences. Squarespace can 485 00:23:03.329 --> 00:23:06.380 help you grow your business. 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It would 532 00:25:32.650 --> 00:25:35.359 also empower the Postal Service to just not send mail 533 00:25:35.390 --> 00:25:39.059 ballots to states that don't comply with all the new rules. 534 00:25:40.160 --> 00:25:42.440 Blue states have sued over the EO, but on Monday, 535 00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:45.160 the Supreme Court ruled they don't have standing to do so, 536 00:25:45.500 --> 00:25:48.529 at least not yet. And so now the whole thing 537 00:25:48.710 --> 00:25:53.039 is in legal limbo as the rule finally goes into effect. 538 00:25:53.190 --> 00:25:57.700 And now blue states are suing again. And so, of course, 539 00:25:57.720 --> 00:25:59.380 this is exactly where you want to be when the 540 00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:01.539 on the first round of mail ballots are supposed to 541 00:26:01.559 --> 00:26:04.980 be sent out next week. Can you fill people in 542 00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:08.400 on how how bad this is? What happens now with 543 00:26:08.420 --> 00:26:09.480 all these different court cases? 544 00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:13.430 This is very confusing. And I think a lot of 545 00:26:13.450 --> 00:26:17.029 the stories and the initial reaction were wrong. sort of 546 00:26:17.470 --> 00:26:21.829 misleading or incorrect. There are two court cases, one from 547 00:26:21.869 --> 00:26:24.029 the blue States and one from the league of women voters. 548 00:26:24.509 --> 00:26:26.049 Both those cases are in front of the same judge 549 00:26:26.769 --> 00:26:29.759 and the judge put temporary restraining orders in place for 550 00:26:29.799 --> 00:26:31.960 both of them to prevent or injunctions to prevent the 551 00:26:32.140 --> 00:26:37.920 administration from going forward with this plan. The Supreme court 552 00:26:38.279 --> 00:26:40.799 ruled in only one of those cases, the one from the, 553 00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:43.619 that that one is something versus Trump. It's there's something 554 00:26:43.640 --> 00:26:47.630 versus California. It's the blue state case, but the, the 555 00:26:47.789 --> 00:26:51.089 injunction in the legal and voter's case is still in place. 556 00:26:51.259 --> 00:26:54.640 And the order continues to say, and even the Postal 557 00:26:54.680 --> 00:26:56.279 Service put out the rule for how they would implement 558 00:26:56.299 --> 00:27:00.200 this plan on last Friday night, even that rule stipulates 559 00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:03.500 that that cannot go in place until the other injunction 560 00:27:03.579 --> 00:27:04.980 is lifted. So we're kind of in the same place 561 00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:07.549 where we were before. The alarming part is the Supreme 562 00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:12.009 Court felt the need to intervene here and to, once again, 563 00:27:12.049 --> 00:27:15.099 sort of really twist the as I read it, the 564 00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:17.819 irreparable harm standard in a way to try to pave 565 00:27:17.859 --> 00:27:20.160 the way for Trump. But it has not– we are 566 00:27:20.200 --> 00:27:23.740 where we were before not a lot has changed. There's 567 00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:26.460 a couple of questions here. One is how the hell 568 00:27:26.539 --> 00:27:31.099 would the Postal Service actually implement this plan? Like who 569 00:27:31.180 --> 00:27:36.619 is going to be checking these mail ballots against these databases? 570 00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:39.029 How do we know the databases are correct? What happens 571 00:27:39.130 --> 00:27:42.630 when states do not submit the databases? Like most blue 572 00:27:42.650 --> 00:27:44.930 states will not submit these rolls and there obviously will 573 00:27:44.950 --> 00:27:48.450 be a long court case around that. It's a question 574 00:27:48.470 --> 00:27:51.190 about how this could possibly be implemented in time for 575 00:27:51.609 --> 00:27:53.450 this election, even if the Supreme Court were to green 576 00:27:53.470 --> 00:27:54.920 light it in the very near future. 577 00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:59.680 It's interesting because obviously Trump has said he doesn't like 578 00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:03.059 mail-in voting and he wants to stop mail-in voting and 579 00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:06.660 he has signed other EOs to this effect that have been. 580 00:28:06.579 --> 00:28:07.640 Can I ask you a question on this, John? 581 00:28:07.660 --> 00:28:07.740 Sure. 582 00:28:07.779 --> 00:28:07.960 Sure. 583 00:28:08.750 --> 00:28:10.450 He's a resident of Florida, correct? 584 00:28:10.490 --> 00:28:12.450 That's right. He's mail-in voter Donald Trump. That's why I 585 00:28:12.450 --> 00:28:13.029 call him that. 586 00:28:13.190 --> 00:28:13.450 Yes. 587 00:28:13.829 --> 00:28:14.390 Yes. 588 00:28:14.410 --> 00:28:15.089 Voter don't do that. 589 00:28:15.609 --> 00:28:17.369 Because hypocrisy is important to people. 590 00:28:18.950 --> 00:28:19.430 We got him. 591 00:28:19.450 --> 00:28:22.609 It's over. We did get him. So his argument is like, no, 592 00:28:22.670 --> 00:28:24.890 I should be in control of mail-in voting and I 593 00:28:24.910 --> 00:28:26.430 should stop it and I should be able to do that. 594 00:28:26.950 --> 00:28:32.150 The DOJ, their arguments here are very much not, oh, 595 00:28:32.190 --> 00:28:34.450 the federal government should have a say in how we 596 00:28:34.490 --> 00:28:37.829 control elections and run elections because they know that is– 597 00:28:38.069 --> 00:28:42.230 explicitly forbidden in the constitution. So their argument in court 598 00:28:42.250 --> 00:28:45.880 about this is, well, the federal government's not doing anything 599 00:28:46.299 --> 00:28:49.220 to interfere with how the states are administering their elections. 600 00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:52.740 And if the states want to send mail ballots to 601 00:28:52.819 --> 00:28:54.980 anyone they want, they can do that. But if they 602 00:28:55.019 --> 00:28:57.200 want to use the postal service, if they want to 603 00:28:57.240 --> 00:29:00.339 use the postal service for this, then they have to 604 00:29:00.380 --> 00:29:03.259 have our new special logo on the envelopes and they 605 00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:05.690 have to have the barcode That allows us to see 606 00:29:05.789 --> 00:29:08.210 if they have given us the information and the lists 607 00:29:08.289 --> 00:29:11.210 are right and the citizenship lists, which are coming from DHS, 608 00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:16.019 which definitely can trust that. So, yeah, that is the argument. 609 00:29:16.039 --> 00:29:17.900 The argument they're trying to make is this just like 610 00:29:17.940 --> 00:29:20.319 a minor cosmetic thing for the design of the ballots. 611 00:29:20.700 --> 00:29:22.279 Like you can do whatever you want. You just have 612 00:29:22.299 --> 00:29:23.640 to use the Postal Service. You know what I say? 613 00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:26.140 Huge business opportunity for Amazon. 614 00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:31.089 Jeff Bezos to the rescue. That's right. 615 00:29:31.569 --> 00:29:33.529 Get your ballot there in two days, free shipping. 616 00:29:34.089 --> 00:29:36.259 I do find it hard to believe that even the 617 00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:39.970 Supreme Court would throw this coming election into complete chaos. 618 00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:44.420 With like– Well, we said that about the Calais decision 619 00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:45.500 as well and they did. 620 00:29:46.140 --> 00:29:49.990 Yeah, but this is– I mean it's not– we don't 621 00:29:50.009 --> 00:29:51.670 have to talk about the merits of the decision as worse. 622 00:29:51.990 --> 00:29:55.470 But it is– it causes more chaos. Like the Calais 623 00:29:55.490 --> 00:30:00.240 decision is horrible but it is done. And this is 624 00:30:00.299 --> 00:30:02.740 like next week, the mail ballots are going out. So 625 00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:05.089 for at least in some states. So like, I think 626 00:30:05.109 --> 00:30:07.690 it's North Carolina. So like, what's going to happen? 627 00:30:08.470 --> 00:30:10.569 It seems logistically impossible. 628 00:30:10.849 --> 00:30:11.630 Right. 629 00:30:11.910 --> 00:30:14.710 Now, they can allow it to happen. And Trump doesn't 630 00:30:14.750 --> 00:30:17.049 care if no mail ballots go. I don't want to 631 00:30:17.069 --> 00:30:20.170 tell him about the Republican Democratic breakdown of mail balloting 632 00:30:20.190 --> 00:30:24.299 in Florida. All of a sudden, Florida, lean D, if 633 00:30:24.359 --> 00:30:25.740 you stop delivering the mail there. 634 00:30:25.960 --> 00:30:28.319 No, the most Supreme Court thing to do would be like, 635 00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:30.740 You know, the worst parts of it don't take effect 636 00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:33.880 for the midterms. All of it takes effect afterwards. And 637 00:30:33.900 --> 00:30:36.849 then ahead of the midterms, the DHS gets to compile 638 00:30:36.890 --> 00:30:39.970 their own list if they want, because that's the purview 639 00:30:39.990 --> 00:30:42.630 of the federal government, something like that. But we shall see. 640 00:30:43.670 --> 00:30:46.630 So if Trump has his way, mail-in ballots will be dead, 641 00:30:47.170 --> 00:30:52.089 but measles, very much alive. Cases have reached a 35-year high, 642 00:30:52.549 --> 00:30:56.390 as U.S. kindergarten vaccination rates have reached a record low. 643 00:30:56.960 --> 00:30:59.559 all since the president put a vaccine skeptic without a 644 00:30:59.579 --> 00:31:02.990 medical degree in charge of America's public health. Just a 645 00:31:03.009 --> 00:31:05.769 reminder that two weeks ago, the president signed an executive 646 00:31:05.890 --> 00:31:10.269 order directing people to get the MMR vaccine, which protects 647 00:31:10.309 --> 00:31:14.349 against measles, mumps, and rubella, as three different shots, even 648 00:31:14.390 --> 00:31:19.470 though that option currently isn't available to patients. And then 649 00:31:19.539 --> 00:31:24.819 this week, Pennsylvania tragically announced that two unvaccinated people had 650 00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:28.710 died from the illness. Governor Josh Shapiro blamed the deaths 651 00:31:28.910 --> 00:31:32.250 on the administration, which did not sit well with RFK Jr., 652 00:31:32.380 --> 00:31:35.460 who blamed the outbreak and the documented drop in vaccination 653 00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:37.299 rates on a familiar foe. 654 00:31:37.819 --> 00:31:39.759 We're doing a better job than any country in the 655 00:31:39.799 --> 00:31:45.160 world at controlling the measles outbreak. This is a worldwide epidemic, 656 00:31:45.859 --> 00:31:49.420 and it's happening because of the lockdowns, because many kids 657 00:31:49.500 --> 00:31:53.000 did not get vaccinated during the lockdowns. Then you had 658 00:31:53.019 --> 00:31:59.599 a dramatic diminishment of public faith in the regulatory agencies 659 00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:02.700 during the COVID period because of government overreaching, because of 660 00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:08.609 the gaslighting and the manipulation. So even in my discussion 661 00:32:08.630 --> 00:32:13.009 with Governor Shapiro yesterday, and he said to me, well, 662 00:32:13.049 --> 00:32:16.829 we've seen this big drop in vaccination rates in the 663 00:32:16.849 --> 00:32:22.509 state from 97 to 92.3. He admitted on the phone 664 00:32:22.549 --> 00:32:24.849 that it all happened during the Biden administration. 665 00:32:25.500 --> 00:32:29.559 Let's see. Let's see. What could have caused the public 666 00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:37.359 to lose faith in vaccinations during the Biden years? Could 667 00:32:37.380 --> 00:32:41.519 it have been some people, perhaps people that ended up 668 00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:45.549 becoming the Secretary of Health and Human Services, constantly spreading 669 00:32:45.740 --> 00:32:51.250 anti-vax propaganda that was incorrect? Possible. Possibly. Let's be fair. 670 00:32:51.269 --> 00:32:52.809 It might have just been the lockdowns. It might have 671 00:32:52.829 --> 00:32:58.119 been the lockdowns and Fauci. And the lab leak. You 672 00:32:58.140 --> 00:32:59.519 don't have to explain why. Just say that. 673 00:32:59.859 --> 00:33:01.319 Just say Wuhan. 674 00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:07.319 Wuhan. Yeah. Wuhan. Fauci. That's why. So Kennedy was also 675 00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:10.119 interrupted during a different anti-vax screed this week by the 676 00:33:11.089 --> 00:33:13.789 most on-the-nose ringtone you could possibly imagine. 677 00:33:14.410 --> 00:33:18.609 We have a responsibility to do better on an autistic. 678 00:33:18.690 --> 00:33:23.859 Sorry about that. It's quack. It's quack, Dan. 679 00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:26.720 This would be like if Pete Hegg's Sass of Ringtone 680 00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:27.980 was a beer can opening. 681 00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:32.380 That's good. 682 00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:34.980 That's good. 683 00:33:35.019 --> 00:33:42.720 So Reed Cherlin, our fearless editor-in-chief and author of Open Tabs, subscribe, 684 00:33:42.900 --> 00:33:44.859 become a friend of the pod to get that, crooked.com 685 00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:49.259 slash friends. And Reed said, wrote in Open Tabs on 686 00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:51.079 Thursday morning that we would, that you and I would 687 00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:54.890 not agree to discuss this story on the show. So 688 00:33:55.029 --> 00:33:57.240 eat shit, Reid. Because here we are. 689 00:33:57.250 --> 00:33:59.759 You know what? Dick move by Reid. 690 00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:01.599 It was. 691 00:34:01.859 --> 00:34:04.000 It's like, let me just put out there that I 692 00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:06.180 am going to, as the noble journalist that I am, 693 00:34:06.220 --> 00:34:08.460 propose we talk about this very serious health thing. And 694 00:34:08.500 --> 00:34:11.739 I'm sure these political hacks that I'm forced to work 695 00:34:11.780 --> 00:34:14.070 with will reject it. And so like, what are we 696 00:34:14.090 --> 00:34:16.659 supposed to do now? Like, we have to do it. 697 00:34:17.170 --> 00:34:18.809 Do I want to do it? I don't really know. 698 00:34:18.949 --> 00:34:20.449 But I have to because Reid did that. 699 00:34:21.869 --> 00:34:25.289 It's like when Barack Obama wanted to give like lengthy 700 00:34:25.369 --> 00:34:27.849 policy addresses and get into the weeds and be like, 701 00:34:28.329 --> 00:34:30.630 I would be able to do this, but Axelrod told 702 00:34:30.690 --> 00:34:31.190 me I couldn't. 703 00:34:31.469 --> 00:34:33.570 Well, that'd be like if he said it publicly first. 704 00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:35.030 Yes. 705 00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:38.440 He's like, I wanted to give this very important speech, 706 00:34:38.500 --> 00:34:41.079 but my political advisors will probably say no. 707 00:34:41.420 --> 00:34:43.340 Anyway, here we are brightening your day by talking about 708 00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:45.440 the measles outbreak. What did you think of the back 709 00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:50.059 and forth between RFK Jr. and Shapiro? And why has 710 00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:52.900 this whole issue gotten even more attention? It's just because 711 00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:54.400 what do we all do about it? 712 00:34:55.539 --> 00:35:00.960 I think RFK Jr. is a terribly, terribly dangerous and 713 00:35:01.139 --> 00:35:04.219 particularly dumb human being. And he sounds ridiculous in his 714 00:35:04.260 --> 00:35:06.420 explanation of this. And he spent so much of his 715 00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:11.460 time trying to explain why he, America's most famous vaccine skeptic, 716 00:35:11.500 --> 00:35:14.579 has no responsibility for a drop in vaccines. It has 717 00:35:14.619 --> 00:35:16.159 led to the greatest spread of measles in the last 718 00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:18.500 35 years, I think it is. I mean, this is, 719 00:35:19.099 --> 00:35:23.699 you know, like he has responsibility here. You know, This 720 00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:26.059 should be a gigantic national scandal. I don't know that 721 00:35:26.159 --> 00:35:29.230 we have the media infrastructure or the mental capacity as 722 00:35:29.289 --> 00:35:31.349 a country to have national scandals the way we used to. 723 00:35:31.369 --> 00:35:34.989 In the old world, people would be in the Oval 724 00:35:35.010 --> 00:35:38.590 Office every day being like, Mr. President, explain the measles. 725 00:35:38.650 --> 00:35:40.139 And every member of Congress would talk about it. It 726 00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:41.760 would lead all the local news. We still have local 727 00:35:41.800 --> 00:35:44.179 news about the measles cases there. It just doesn't work 728 00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:47.940 that way anymore, which is probably not good for democracy 729 00:35:47.980 --> 00:35:50.699 in some respects. But I do think people know about this. 730 00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:53.510 This is a thing that I'm sure you hear about 731 00:35:54.690 --> 00:35:58.280 as a parent with other parents. There's real concern about it. 732 00:35:58.349 --> 00:36:01.630 I remember when– this was maybe a year or so ago, 733 00:36:01.690 --> 00:36:05.530 I guess, when Jack, who was then I think about 734 00:36:05.550 --> 00:36:08.380 to be five, was– because you get your MMR in 735 00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:11.239 two doses. And whether you– the big discussion about whether 736 00:36:11.260 --> 00:36:15.960 you should– whether you could like put forward or push 737 00:36:15.980 --> 00:36:18.070 forward the second dose. Cause you're a fear that you 738 00:36:18.090 --> 00:36:20.769 could get measles in this world. Like, so I think 739 00:36:20.789 --> 00:36:23.510 people are talking about it, but there is this sort 740 00:36:23.530 --> 00:36:26.269 of weird world where like no one holds Trump responsible 741 00:36:26.289 --> 00:36:27.429 for any of this stuff. So it was just like 742 00:36:27.469 --> 00:36:29.230 happening on his watch while he renames lakes. 743 00:36:29.530 --> 00:36:29.710 Yeah. 744 00:36:30.449 --> 00:36:33.469 I mean, I do think it's, um, it's politically damaging 745 00:36:33.650 --> 00:36:36.679 and widely known too, because you're right. Like anyone, if you, 746 00:36:37.139 --> 00:36:39.659 anyone who goes to the pediatrician with kids that age, 747 00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:42.400 like I'm, I'm, I heard it at my pediatric, like, 748 00:36:42.420 --> 00:36:44.280 you're going to hear about it and be like, oh, well, 749 00:36:44.769 --> 00:36:47.429 They did the thing about MMR, but we're still recommending 750 00:36:47.590 --> 00:36:50.690 because we are doctors who understand science that you should 751 00:36:50.710 --> 00:36:54.889 get your MMR vaccine in two doses and not three 752 00:36:55.010 --> 00:37:00.170 separate vaccines that don't exist currently. But like, you know, 753 00:37:00.769 --> 00:37:05.369 the damage is also being done like slowly over time, right? 754 00:37:05.389 --> 00:37:09.670 Which is just sort of degrading the public's trust in 755 00:37:09.849 --> 00:37:12.139 public health. And look, some of it, some of it 756 00:37:12.179 --> 00:37:14.190 did start, I think it's hard to have a public 757 00:37:14.230 --> 00:37:19.630 health debate and a conversation too since COVID and all 758 00:37:19.650 --> 00:37:21.989 the polarization around that as well. And so now that 759 00:37:22.030 --> 00:37:24.909 has like, as people thought at the time, the polarization 760 00:37:24.969 --> 00:37:28.239 over COVID and the COVID vaccines has now transferred to 761 00:37:28.300 --> 00:37:31.280 measles and will continue to spread to other things. And 762 00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:33.559 so it's going to take a long time in more 763 00:37:33.599 --> 00:37:37.000 than just the change in an administration to actually like 764 00:37:37.340 --> 00:37:40.780 rebuild people's faith in public health, which. 765 00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:44.119 Is, I think this is the Kaiser Family Foundation poll, 766 00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:50.280 but trust in federal officials' recommendations, I think specifically vaccine recommendations, 767 00:37:50.300 --> 00:37:52.429 has been cut in half in recent years because you 768 00:37:52.469 --> 00:37:56.769 have Republicans who have been polarized against these institutions during 769 00:37:56.789 --> 00:38:00.389 the Biden administration. And frankly, honestly, the first Trump administration. 770 00:38:00.909 --> 00:38:02.699 And then you have a bunch of Democrats very skeptical 771 00:38:03.059 --> 00:38:05.699 of RFK Jr. I talked a little bit about this 772 00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:07.639 with Annie Andrews in the interview a year later, who's 773 00:38:07.659 --> 00:38:10.099 a pediatrician and has some smart thoughts about what we 774 00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:10.619 can do about it. 775 00:38:11.010 --> 00:38:13.909 There was a long New Yorker piece this week. Basically, 776 00:38:13.929 --> 00:38:16.780 the argument was that RFK might actually be losing the 777 00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:20.179 war on vaccines. You think there's a case for optimism? 778 00:38:20.860 --> 00:38:24.260 I don't know if it's optimism, but I think it's 779 00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:27.489 possible that he's not winning the war at the same 780 00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:30.389 rate we feared when he started. That a lot of 781 00:38:30.409 --> 00:38:33.690 the institutions are still holding, that people are turning to 782 00:38:33.730 --> 00:38:37.409 these independent scientific boards to get their recommendations. They're still 783 00:38:37.449 --> 00:38:42.469 trusting their doctor's Over, you know, quacks, no pun intended, 784 00:38:42.860 --> 00:38:46.920 like RFK Jr. So I don't know. It's hard to 785 00:38:46.940 --> 00:38:48.760 be optimistic given what has happened with Music in this 786 00:38:48.780 --> 00:38:50.900 Country right now. But it's possible that it's not as 787 00:38:50.980 --> 00:38:52.619 bad as we think it is or we thought it 788 00:38:52.659 --> 00:38:53.389 would be when it started. 789 00:38:53.699 --> 00:38:56.610 Yeah. I thought that it was interesting that the piece 790 00:38:56.650 --> 00:38:59.530 makes the case that, you know, the Maha support, especially 791 00:38:59.550 --> 00:39:02.889 at this point, is– it's loud but it's like thinner 792 00:39:02.929 --> 00:39:03.449 than it seems. 793 00:39:03.469 --> 00:39:03.550 Yeah. 794 00:39:04.820 --> 00:39:09.579 And public trust in doctors, right, if not public health officials, 795 00:39:10.019 --> 00:39:13.000 is still quite high. And so even though that some 796 00:39:13.019 --> 00:39:15.550 of this faith, this trust has been degraded over time, 797 00:39:16.530 --> 00:39:19.550 it is still, you know, it's not quite as bad 798 00:39:19.789 --> 00:39:21.670 yet as it might appear. 799 00:39:22.010 --> 00:39:24.949 I think the other, if you're looking for silver linings 800 00:39:24.989 --> 00:39:27.989 in this dark cloud, is the way the Trump administration 801 00:39:28.010 --> 00:39:33.780 has governed has undermined the Maha movement and the power 802 00:39:33.800 --> 00:39:37.690 of that movement, like putting the seed oil lobbyists in 803 00:39:37.710 --> 00:39:39.789 charge of being the chief of staff of the Department 804 00:39:39.809 --> 00:39:42.090 of Ag, all the stuff with the glyphosates, that the 805 00:39:42.170 --> 00:39:46.550 power of that movement has diminished or fractured some, which 806 00:39:46.590 --> 00:39:49.760 I think has the potential to slow the spread of 807 00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:51.059 some of these dangerous conspiracy theories. 808 00:39:59.059 --> 00:40:01.429 Pod Save America is brought to you by Sundays. 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You know, you'll notice, look, 830 00:41:06.550 --> 00:41:08.369 when your dog's eating well, they got more energy, they 831 00:41:08.389 --> 00:41:11.130 got a better mood, they're more calm. a better coat, 832 00:41:11.329 --> 00:41:14.630 just all around a better life for your dog. Make 833 00:41:14.670 --> 00:41:18.190 the switch to Sundays. Go right now to sundaysfordogs.com slash 834 00:41:18.230 --> 00:41:21.320 crooked and get 50% off your first order. Or you 835 00:41:21.340 --> 00:41:24.340 can use the code crooked at checkout. That's 50% off 836 00:41:24.380 --> 00:41:30.019 your first order at sundaysfordogs.com slash crooked, sundaysfordogs.com slash crooked, 837 00:41:30.059 --> 00:41:31.480 or use code crooked at checkout. 838 00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:40.300 Let's talk midterms. As we mentioned, Trump on Thursday night 839 00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:43.199 was in Texas to take his pretend I'm on the 840 00:41:43.260 --> 00:41:47.960 ballot strategy for a spin, attending an RNC fundraiser for 841 00:41:47.980 --> 00:41:50.179 the Senate race that he characterized this way. 842 00:41:50.340 --> 00:41:53.550 We have a very good candidate, Ken Paxton, and he's 843 00:41:53.610 --> 00:41:58.070 running against Telefrico, they call him, because he is a 844 00:41:58.110 --> 00:42:01.449 little freaky. And that's not a man that represents the 845 00:42:01.469 --> 00:42:03.989 value of Texas. 846 00:42:04.309 --> 00:42:06.909 New poll from Texas Public Opinion Research on Thursday showing 847 00:42:07.369 --> 00:42:12.750 Tala Frico up six on Paxton and Gina Hossa down 848 00:42:12.869 --> 00:42:18.389 seven to Greg Abbott, which, you know, bummer poll about 849 00:42:18.409 --> 00:42:20.679 the governor's race. But it does suggest that they didn't 850 00:42:20.860 --> 00:42:24.059 oversample Democrats in that poll, at least. What are your thoughts? 851 00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:26.940 Yeah, I mean, it's hard to know exactly where the 852 00:42:26.980 --> 00:42:31.219 polls are in this race, but in almost every single poll, 853 00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:33.480 Tala Frico has been leading by a few points, something 854 00:42:33.500 --> 00:42:36.710 that Beto O'Rourke never did in twenty eighteen. And so, 855 00:42:36.989 --> 00:42:39.130 you know, once again, we were about as well positioned 856 00:42:39.929 --> 00:42:41.849 as we could be, hope to be in a Texas 857 00:42:41.869 --> 00:42:44.829 Senate race in late August of the election year. And 858 00:42:44.869 --> 00:42:48.309 so I feel cautiously good about it. A lot of 859 00:42:48.349 --> 00:42:52.329 work to do. Tallarico has been spending money. Paxton hasn't 860 00:42:52.349 --> 00:42:54.329 been spending money. I think his super PAC just bought 861 00:42:54.349 --> 00:42:58.610 TV time right now. People expect, you know, maybe these 862 00:42:58.630 --> 00:43:01.730 will be the Trump agenda ads, but where MAGA Inc 863 00:43:01.769 --> 00:43:04.570 will spend their money will be Texas. Because Paxton is 864 00:43:04.590 --> 00:43:06.530 a very bad fundraiser and a lot of Republicans who 865 00:43:06.550 --> 00:43:09.150 are PACs do not want to sort of be associated 866 00:43:09.170 --> 00:43:11.650 with him. So Trump obviously has a kinship with Crooks. 867 00:43:11.750 --> 00:43:13.489 So he would jump in there. So we'll have to 868 00:43:13.510 --> 00:43:18.670 see when the spending like stabilizes or equalizes. But Teller 869 00:43:18.690 --> 00:43:19.449 is in a good spot right now. 870 00:43:19.769 --> 00:43:22.510 It is funny. All the Republican candidates who don't want 871 00:43:22.530 --> 00:43:24.250 to appear with Trump and may not want to appear 872 00:43:24.289 --> 00:43:27.380 with Trump in the lead up to the midterms. Maybe 873 00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:29.849 the only one less popular than Donald Trump right now 874 00:43:29.949 --> 00:43:30.849 is Ken Paxton. 875 00:43:31.230 --> 00:43:31.889 Yeah, that's true. 876 00:43:32.329 --> 00:43:36.230 So he's probably like, yeah, come on back anytime. So 877 00:43:36.289 --> 00:43:37.889 there was also some big news on Thursday in the 878 00:43:37.949 --> 00:43:40.530 Georgia Senate race. I'll just read the headline from the 879 00:43:40.590 --> 00:43:45.320 Washington Post. A former Mike Collins staffer posted KKK and 880 00:43:45.420 --> 00:43:50.699 Nazi images. Some Republicans see a pattern. I love this subhead. 881 00:43:52.099 --> 00:43:54.219 John Ossoff sees a pattern as well. He jumped on 882 00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:55.840 this right away. Let's listen. 883 00:43:56.250 --> 00:44:00.969 Well, what's new today is yet more documented evidence of 884 00:44:01.010 --> 00:44:05.070 the congressman's ties to white nationalism and neo-Nazi ideology. We 885 00:44:05.150 --> 00:44:08.360 already knew about the neo-Nazi propagandist based at his house 886 00:44:08.389 --> 00:44:12.400 who produces content for his business. We already knew that 887 00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:15.380 his office was briefing some of the nation's most notorious 888 00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:18.840 white supremacists on their efforts supporting a Holocaust denier. Now 889 00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:21.239 this morning, thanks to the reporting in the Washington Post, 890 00:44:21.539 --> 00:44:24.199 we've seen yet another member of the congressman's staff, this 891 00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:30.750 time with swastikas and the costume of the Klan. And absolutely, 892 00:44:30.849 --> 00:44:34.809 Georgia voters reject this and not just Democrats, but Democrats, 893 00:44:34.929 --> 00:44:36.449 independents and Republicans. 894 00:44:36.789 --> 00:44:41.929 So the staffer in question is Preston Parra. He's a 895 00:44:42.230 --> 00:44:46.309 former staffer who has described himself as a twink fascist. 896 00:44:47.949 --> 00:44:55.079 Twink fascist, Dan. And as Asaf mentioned, posted a Swastika 897 00:44:55.119 --> 00:44:58.840 made up of the words twink. And you're probably thinking, 898 00:44:59.699 --> 00:45:01.119 maybe we can post an image afterwards. 899 00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:03.940 I don't think we should post a swastika. 900 00:45:06.539 --> 00:45:11.170 That's the art for the episode. Basically, it was, yeah, 901 00:45:11.429 --> 00:45:14.210 he typed out in a tweet a lot of just 902 00:45:14.230 --> 00:45:16.869 a whole bunch of words, twink, twink, twink, twink, over 903 00:45:16.889 --> 00:45:19.150 and over, but then made it into a swastika. Just 904 00:45:19.250 --> 00:45:22.760 in case you were wondering how you How you post 905 00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:27.139 a swastika made up of the words twink. And then, 906 00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:29.739 of course, as Asaf referenced also, he posted a photo 907 00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:32.769 of himself in a KKK robe, which he told the 908 00:45:32.809 --> 00:45:37.630 post was generated with grok. I guess that helps. That helps, right? 909 00:45:38.050 --> 00:45:41.150 He also recently posted Deutschland Uber Al's. 910 00:45:41.849 --> 00:45:42.110 Al's? 911 00:45:42.289 --> 00:45:45.500 Allies? I'm just going to skip that. Skip that one. 912 00:45:45.769 --> 00:45:48.889 He says these posts were meant to be satirical. But 913 00:45:48.909 --> 00:45:51.190 he did tell the Post, quote, I do think that 914 00:45:51.230 --> 00:45:57.610 the white race contributes more to the world. Unbelievably, this 915 00:45:57.670 --> 00:46:00.809 is not a one-off. Mike Collins' former chief of staff 916 00:46:01.070 --> 00:46:03.010 was revealed to be in a group chat with Nick 917 00:46:03.030 --> 00:46:06.889 Fuentes and Richard Spencer where people praised Hitler. Another former 918 00:46:06.909 --> 00:46:11.510 Collins staffer was fired after yelling anti-Semitic slurs at Republican 919 00:46:11.550 --> 00:46:15.440 Congressman Mike Lawler. That was Rand Paul's son. And then 920 00:46:15.460 --> 00:46:19.260 there's Mike Collins' son-in-law. It's the guy running against John Ossoff, 921 00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:22.500 his son-in-law, who has quite recently shared Nazi imagery and 922 00:46:22.539 --> 00:46:26.860 propaganda online, including a post he said his wife made, 923 00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:31.519 the wife would be Mike Collins' daughter, that shows what 924 00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:35.869 he calls, quote, proof that Jews control our government through finance. 925 00:46:36.789 --> 00:46:39.909 The son-in-law also warned that restoring an America populated by 926 00:46:39.969 --> 00:46:44.150 people of white European descent would require, quote, clearing out 927 00:46:44.309 --> 00:46:49.969 land of other people. This is his son-in-law in family 928 00:46:50.010 --> 00:46:52.719 photos together. Not like, you know, black sheep of the 929 00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:54.400 family kind of thing. Like just, you know, they have 930 00:46:54.460 --> 00:46:56.739 pictures of the whole family together. And the daughter, he 931 00:46:56.760 --> 00:47:00.199 said the daughter made that post. As you heard Ossoff 932 00:47:00.219 --> 00:47:03.320 alluding to there, you know, Mike Collins clearly has a 933 00:47:03.380 --> 00:47:08.570 long history of surrounding himself with pretty bad creeps. How 934 00:47:08.590 --> 00:47:10.690 do you think this plays in Georgia? This is another 935 00:47:10.769 --> 00:47:13.130 one that sort of, it hasn't gone under the radar 936 00:47:13.150 --> 00:47:16.070 because every time I see Ossoff, he does mention that 937 00:47:16.110 --> 00:47:19.000 Mike Collins is a bigot. I was not aware of 938 00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:22.239 the long history of all of these different staffers and 939 00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:25.559 relatives until this latest story. 940 00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:28.320 Yeah, he talks about all the time he's been hammering 941 00:47:28.380 --> 00:47:31.750 this at the stump for months now, ever since Mike 942 00:47:31.769 --> 00:47:37.110 Collins became the nominee. You know, it's obviously, I would say, 943 00:47:37.369 --> 00:47:40.190 close associations with neo-Nazis is not a net positive in 944 00:47:40.250 --> 00:47:44.510 any state. And so not good for him. What I 945 00:47:44.590 --> 00:47:46.599 think were this, there are two ways in which this 946 00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:50.889 is very hurtful to Collins and helpful to Ossoff is one, 947 00:47:53.269 --> 00:47:55.789 the metric that really has been deciding elections is who's 948 00:47:55.809 --> 00:47:58.809 seen as more extreme. Hard to get more extreme than 949 00:47:58.829 --> 00:48:02.590 just palling around with neo-Nazis and people posting swastikas. So 950 00:48:02.710 --> 00:48:05.429 that's not good. Also, the best thing they have in 951 00:48:05.510 --> 00:48:08.539 Ossoff is Republicans right off this race. And the more 952 00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:10.019 of this stuff is out there, the harder it is 953 00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:13.179 for Collins to raise money, the harder it'd be as 954 00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:14.760 Republicans look at how they're going to spend their money 955 00:48:15.699 --> 00:48:17.059 do they really want to put their money behind the 956 00:48:17.099 --> 00:48:19.260 guy who parties with white nationalists and hang out with 957 00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:20.380 white nationalists all the time or go to some of 958 00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:22.760 these other races? And so he can kind of, there 959 00:48:22.780 --> 00:48:24.460 are times in which you can win a race before 960 00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:26.909 it even starts. And Ossoff is kind of doing that 961 00:48:26.989 --> 00:48:31.710 right here by sort of just like delivering a mortal 962 00:48:31.769 --> 00:48:35.650 blow to the Collins campaign, you know, months, you know, 963 00:48:35.650 --> 00:48:37.150 60 some days before six, seven days before the election. 964 00:48:37.369 --> 00:48:39.780 Yeah. It made me realize like, Oh, well, I mean, 965 00:48:39.860 --> 00:48:44.239 Ossoff very talented has been a great Senator is which 966 00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:47.750 I don't know if you, listened to Sarah Longwell's focus group, 967 00:48:47.789 --> 00:48:49.949 the latest one. She has a bunch of Trump voters 968 00:48:50.070 --> 00:48:55.320 who like Ossoff. It was very interesting. And a lot 969 00:48:55.340 --> 00:48:58.079 of it was like, he's like just really great constituent services. 970 00:48:58.739 --> 00:49:00.579 Like they can always get ahold of him. He's helping people. 971 00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:03.579 So that's all why he's doing well. But then having 972 00:49:03.619 --> 00:49:06.250 Mike Collins as an opponent, probably also helping. 973 00:49:06.730 --> 00:49:08.869 Then certainly making his life a little bit easier. 974 00:49:09.210 --> 00:49:12.489 Ossoff also released another statement on Thursday after the Atlanta 975 00:49:12.510 --> 00:49:16.019 Journal Constitution pressed him for a response to You guessed it, 976 00:49:16.539 --> 00:49:20.530 Hasan Piker's statement on his Twitch stream from last week. that, quote, 977 00:49:21.070 --> 00:49:23.550 if Jews in America keep putting this idea out there 978 00:49:23.889 --> 00:49:27.659 that they are singularly invested in Israel, eventually someone's going 979 00:49:27.699 --> 00:49:32.000 to come around and take action against American Jews. What 980 00:49:32.059 --> 00:49:35.380 followed has been a week of various elected Democrats condemning Piker. 981 00:49:35.780 --> 00:49:38.880 Abdul El-Sayed, who has campaigned with Piker, condemned the substance 982 00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:42.699 of the comments. without condemning Piker himself, though he did 983 00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:45.619 say he doesn't speak for Abdul, that only Abdul speaks 984 00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:49.539 for Abdul, Ossoff, through a spokesperson, replied that he, quote, 985 00:49:50.059 --> 00:49:55.309 unreservedly rejects reckless and dangerous rhetoric, like those comments, and that, quote, 986 00:49:55.389 --> 00:49:58.170 all Americans must have the freedom and security to speak 987 00:49:58.230 --> 00:50:02.289 out and petition their government without fear of reprisal. Now, 988 00:50:03.489 --> 00:50:06.389 those of you who follow me on Twitter might be thinking, John, 989 00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:09.619 didn't you just call on all Democrats to take the 990 00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:13.360 don't talk about Hassan Piker for a day challenge? Why, yes, 991 00:50:13.420 --> 00:50:18.780 I did. And most of political Twitter, including several Democratic politicians, failed. 992 00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:22.440 So I am intentionally failing today in order to make 993 00:50:22.860 --> 00:50:27.050 another plea. I think it's one thing if, like John Ossoff, 994 00:50:27.070 --> 00:50:30.750 you are pressed by a reporter to respond to whatever 995 00:50:30.789 --> 00:50:34.269 the latest Hassan Piker statement is. I do not think 996 00:50:35.030 --> 00:50:39.929 that spending every day from now until November talking about Denouncing, 997 00:50:40.690 --> 00:50:45.329 defending Hassan Piker will either make Hassan Piker go away 998 00:50:45.849 --> 00:50:49.550 or help Democrats win the midterms. I think it will 999 00:50:49.670 --> 00:50:53.829 instead keep one very polarizing leftist influencer at the center 1000 00:50:53.849 --> 00:50:57.289 of the discourse and give Republicans and right-wing media excuse 1001 00:50:57.489 --> 00:51:02.500 after excuse to cover each new denunciation. What do you think, Dan? 1002 00:51:03.119 --> 00:51:03.679 Is this a trap? 1003 00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:04.239 Yes. 1004 00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:08.480 If I answer the question, I have failed the test 1005 00:51:08.519 --> 00:51:09.010 you set up. 1006 00:51:09.039 --> 00:51:12.099 Well, that's what I'm saying. I failed it. I've already failed. 1007 00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:16.239 It's a failure. I tried. Didn't work. Okay. 1008 00:51:16.440 --> 00:51:19.739 So I'm going to do this briefly. The main goal 1009 00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:24.929 here is to elect Democrats to the Senate majority. We 1010 00:51:24.949 --> 00:51:27.670 cannot really elect Democrats to the Senate majority without Abdul 1011 00:51:27.710 --> 00:51:33.070 winning in Michigan. And my perhaps naive belief is that 1012 00:51:33.329 --> 00:51:38.449 everyone in this debate wants Abdul to win. And the 1013 00:51:38.489 --> 00:51:41.869 best way for Abdul to win is for everyone, the 1014 00:51:41.889 --> 00:51:46.630 people condemning Hassan, the people condemning Hassan and Hassan himself 1015 00:51:47.190 --> 00:51:50.150 to move on and stop fighting about this. We are 1016 00:51:50.150 --> 00:51:54.360 67 days away. We need to be talking about Mike Rogers, 1017 00:51:54.900 --> 00:51:58.940 about his corruption, how a vote for Mike Rogers is 1018 00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:00.559 a vote for Donald Trump and Donald Trump's agenda. It's 1019 00:52:00.599 --> 00:52:02.460 a vote to make Donald Trump in charge of the Senate. 1020 00:52:03.099 --> 00:52:06.789 We have to get focused on The main thing. And 1021 00:52:06.809 --> 00:52:08.449 the main thing is Mike Rogers. 1022 00:52:09.329 --> 00:52:09.650 Agreed. 1023 00:52:10.110 --> 00:52:15.159 Mike Rogers is corrupt. Mike Rogers wants to give your 1024 00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:16.699 money to rich people. He doesn't want you to have 1025 00:52:16.719 --> 00:52:19.159 health care. A vote for him is to ensure that 1026 00:52:19.179 --> 00:52:24.000 Donald Trump gets to appoint more Supreme Court justices. That 1027 00:52:24.019 --> 00:52:25.550 is a thing. We've got to talk about Mike Rogers. 1028 00:52:25.949 --> 00:52:28.329 Well said. 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But I 1059 00:54:07.369 --> 00:54:09.429 just want to start because I think I imagine that 1060 00:54:09.929 --> 00:54:11.989 The South Carolina Senate race hasn't been on the radar. 1061 00:54:12.010 --> 00:54:14.449 A lot of our listeners were focused on Texas, Ohio, 1062 00:54:14.489 --> 00:54:18.349 North Carolina, Michigan, et cetera. You're a pediatrician. How did 1063 00:54:18.389 --> 00:54:20.219 you end up running for Senate? 1064 00:54:20.920 --> 00:54:23.559 Yeah, I'm a pediatrician. I've worked in children's hospitals for 1065 00:54:23.559 --> 00:54:27.340 20 years. I never envisioned I would pivot into politics. 1066 00:54:27.500 --> 00:54:30.400 My first foray in politics was in 2022 when I 1067 00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:34.170 ran for Congress in South Carolina's first district against Nancy Mace. 1068 00:54:34.610 --> 00:54:37.349 Saw the ugliest side of politics in that race. But 1069 00:54:37.369 --> 00:54:39.699 I ended up in politics because for the first 15 1070 00:54:39.699 --> 00:54:41.900 years of my career working at the bedside of sick 1071 00:54:41.940 --> 00:54:45.059 and injured children, I very quickly started to understand the 1072 00:54:45.099 --> 00:54:48.079 impact of broken policies coming from failing politicians on my 1073 00:54:48.119 --> 00:54:51.840 patients and their families. So I naively started advocating at 1074 00:54:51.889 --> 00:54:54.570 my state capitol for better policies for kids and families 1075 00:54:54.650 --> 00:54:57.010 in South Carolina. And what I was saying was falling 1076 00:54:57.090 --> 00:55:00.130 on mostly deaf ears. So it became abundantly clear that 1077 00:55:00.210 --> 00:55:02.849 to catalyze change for America's kids and families, I needed 1078 00:55:02.869 --> 00:55:06.010 to explicitly advocate engage in politics on behalf of America's 1079 00:55:06.050 --> 00:55:08.800 kids and families. And so I ran for Congress. And 1080 00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:10.239 here I am in this US Senate race. 1081 00:55:10.659 --> 00:55:14.500 As you mentioned, you ran against the very charming and 1082 00:55:14.579 --> 00:55:18.139 wonderful and affable Nancy Mace last time around. What did 1083 00:55:18.179 --> 00:55:20.380 you learn from that race, which is a very tough 1084 00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:21.840 race in a tough year, and you lost by I 1085 00:55:21.860 --> 00:55:22.380 think about 14 points. 1086 00:55:23.550 --> 00:55:23.989 Yeah, I did. 1087 00:55:24.050 --> 00:55:26.289 It came down to partisan voting lines. That was a 1088 00:55:26.309 --> 00:55:28.570 redistricting year. It was a purple seat when I got 1089 00:55:28.610 --> 00:55:31.289 into the race, knowing they would probably draw it into 1090 00:55:31.429 --> 00:55:34.329 a very safe Republican seat. And that's what they did. 1091 00:55:34.429 --> 00:55:36.789 But what I learned is all of these fights are 1092 00:55:36.809 --> 00:55:39.690 worth fighting, no matter how uphill the challenge is. It 1093 00:55:40.469 --> 00:55:42.610 was very clear to me that South Carolinians needed to 1094 00:55:42.650 --> 00:55:44.750 have a choice on the ballot. That was the election 1095 00:55:44.809 --> 00:55:48.219 cycle where Roe fell. And so as a doctor, and 1096 00:55:48.260 --> 00:55:50.119 a mom. I was able to give a voice to 1097 00:55:50.179 --> 00:55:52.900 so many women in South Carolina who were feeling totally 1098 00:55:52.980 --> 00:55:56.699 left behind in that moment. And I strongly believe now 1099 00:55:56.760 --> 00:55:59.900 that second-time candidates are way better than first-time candidates. I'm 1100 00:55:59.940 --> 00:56:02.530 a much better public speaker. I'm a much better fundraiser. 1101 00:56:02.909 --> 00:56:04.869 And so what I say often is if I wasn't 1102 00:56:04.949 --> 00:56:07.469 a loser congressional candidate, I wouldn't be such a strong 1103 00:56:07.510 --> 00:56:08.710 Senate candidate this cycle. 1104 00:56:09.210 --> 00:56:10.949 I often point out to people that Barack Obama also 1105 00:56:10.989 --> 00:56:13.150 lost his first race for Congress. So there you go. 1106 00:56:13.329 --> 00:56:17.889 There you go. I want to... play a clip for you. 1107 00:56:18.409 --> 00:56:21.409 This is a moment that went quite viral from your opponent, 1108 00:56:21.449 --> 00:56:24.489 Darlene Graham's victory speech on Tuesday night. 1109 00:56:24.989 --> 00:56:31.280 Gun control, government-run health care, abortion until the moment of birth, 1110 00:56:31.940 --> 00:56:37.980 bad idea after bad idea, Annie Andrews backs them all. 1111 00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:42.460 I have a different background and vision for our state. 1112 00:56:43.139 --> 00:56:45.880 I'm a hard worker with a servant's heart. I grew 1113 00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:47.760 up in the back of a bar and liquor store 1114 00:56:47.820 --> 00:56:51.780 in one room in central South Carolina. My parents worked long, 1115 00:56:51.840 --> 00:56:56.449 hard hours to make ends meet. We didn't take vacations. 1116 00:56:56.889 --> 00:56:58.630 If they were sick, they had to get up and 1117 00:56:58.670 --> 00:57:01.090 go to work because the doors weren't open. We weren't 1118 00:57:01.130 --> 00:57:04.889 making money. My mother passed away when I was 11 1119 00:57:04.889 --> 00:57:06.880 and my father just over a year later. 1120 00:57:07.420 --> 00:57:12.199 Okay, before you get to all the bevy of accusations 1121 00:57:12.219 --> 00:57:14.619 at the front of that, it seems to me that 1122 00:57:14.659 --> 00:57:18.719 there is an inherent logic problem with what she's saying here. 1123 00:57:18.940 --> 00:57:20.219 What was your reaction to this clip? 1124 00:57:20.699 --> 00:57:23.929 Yeah, I think she sort of unintentionally unveiled her healthcare 1125 00:57:23.949 --> 00:57:26.929 plan in that moment. And it seems to me that 1126 00:57:26.969 --> 00:57:29.929 her healthcare plan is work hard even while you're sick 1127 00:57:29.989 --> 00:57:33.710 until you die. And I believe that Darlene's parents deserved 1128 00:57:33.769 --> 00:57:36.590 better than that. I believe everyone in America deserves better 1129 00:57:36.630 --> 00:57:39.670 than that. You know, maybe I should ask her to 1130 00:57:39.690 --> 00:57:43.300 fill out an in-kind contribution form for my campaign because 1131 00:57:43.639 --> 00:57:46.460 she is making the case for what I'm running on, that, 1132 00:57:46.500 --> 00:57:48.820 you know, we need a health care system that is patient-centered, 1133 00:57:48.860 --> 00:57:51.019 that health care is a human right. And I think 1134 00:57:51.059 --> 00:57:54.320 that story just really highlights how broken America's health care 1135 00:57:54.360 --> 00:57:57.019 system is, that working people should be able to take 1136 00:57:57.039 --> 00:57:59.340 a sick day when they're sick, and they should also 1137 00:57:59.389 --> 00:58:01.349 be able to afford health care when they're sick. 1138 00:58:01.880 --> 00:58:03.139 Talk to me a little bit about your health care plan. 1139 00:58:03.159 --> 00:58:05.420 We're having a big debate in the Democratic Party about 1140 00:58:05.579 --> 00:58:08.579 how to deal with health care. We have people calling 1141 00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:10.659 for Medicare for all. We have people who are skeptical 1142 00:58:10.679 --> 00:58:12.159 of Medicare. Where do you fall in that debate? 1143 00:58:12.409 --> 00:58:13.730 Yeah, I mean, the other thing I'll say about that 1144 00:58:13.769 --> 00:58:16.869 clip before we move on is she has negative charisma. 1145 00:58:16.889 --> 00:58:20.190 I think that it's very clear that this is the 1146 00:58:20.289 --> 00:58:24.889 weakest candidate Republicans have put in a Senate race this cycle. 1147 00:58:24.949 --> 00:58:27.159 And so that creates such a huge opportunity for us 1148 00:58:27.199 --> 00:58:29.619 here in South Carolina. But my health care plan is, 1149 00:58:29.659 --> 00:58:31.449 number one, as I said, I believe health care is 1150 00:58:31.489 --> 00:58:33.550 a human right. I know we have to shift from 1151 00:58:33.570 --> 00:58:36.989 this profit-motivated health care system that we have in America 1152 00:58:37.090 --> 00:58:40.530 to one that is truly patient-centered. I'm also a really 1153 00:58:40.590 --> 00:58:43.570 pragmatic person. And I believe that we can't let perfect 1154 00:58:43.869 --> 00:58:45.610 be the enemy of good, that we have to work 1155 00:58:45.670 --> 00:58:48.250 hard across the aisle to move the ball down the field, 1156 00:58:48.309 --> 00:58:51.250 just like we did when the ACA was passed. And 1157 00:58:51.269 --> 00:58:54.030 so I think the next obvious step is a public 1158 00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:57.139 option so that folks who don't have access to employer-based 1159 00:58:57.159 --> 00:59:00.449 health insurance can purchase a plan from the federal government, 1160 00:59:00.510 --> 00:59:04.230 removing the profit motivation from that transaction. And I think 1161 00:59:04.269 --> 00:59:07.590 that will force private insurance companies to offer more comprehensive 1162 00:59:07.630 --> 00:59:10.610 benefit plans at lower premium rates And then there'll be 1163 00:59:10.630 --> 00:59:13.190 a domino effect as Americans realize I'm getting a much 1164 00:59:13.230 --> 00:59:15.969 better deal from this federal government plan where my money 1165 00:59:16.030 --> 00:59:19.300 isn't going to line the pockets of insurance company shareholders, 1166 00:59:19.340 --> 00:59:21.960 but it's actually going to the provision of health care. 1167 00:59:22.360 --> 00:59:25.300 And once more and more Americans have that realization, then 1168 00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:27.239 and really, in my view, only then can we have 1169 00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:31.190 a true productive, bipartisan conversation about how then to take 1170 00:59:31.230 --> 00:59:33.409 the next step to building a healthcare system that really 1171 00:59:33.449 --> 00:59:34.889 does serve everyone in this country. 1172 00:59:34.909 --> 00:59:37.010 I kind of can't believe I'm about to say this sentence, 1173 00:59:37.110 --> 00:59:39.590 but at an event this morning in the Oval Office 1174 00:59:39.610 --> 00:59:41.369 where the President of the United States was announcing that 1175 00:59:41.409 --> 00:59:45.630 we were changing the name of Lake Ontario to Lake America, 1176 00:59:46.190 --> 00:59:49.289 he began that event by talking about your race. He 1177 00:59:49.329 --> 00:59:52.250 congratulated Darlene Graham, and he said, and I'm going to quote, 1178 00:59:53.170 --> 00:59:55.989 she's still got to run against a radical left lunatic, 1179 00:59:56.030 --> 00:59:57.699 and the South Carolina people are not going to stand 1180 00:59:57.739 --> 01:00:00.099 for that I mean, Trump says a lot of things 1181 01:00:00.119 --> 01:00:02.389 that this is obviously you saw that in the clip 1182 01:00:02.429 --> 01:00:04.550 I played from Graham. This is sort of the case 1183 01:00:04.690 --> 01:00:06.610 against you. How do you respond to that? 1184 01:00:06.889 --> 01:00:09.469 Yeah, I mean, what is so radical about thinking that 1185 01:00:09.710 --> 01:00:11.610 if you work hard during the day, you should be 1186 01:00:11.670 --> 01:00:13.590 able to afford to put food on the table and 1187 01:00:13.630 --> 01:00:15.570 keep your lights on at the end of the month? 1188 01:00:15.929 --> 01:00:18.210 What is so radical about thinking every county in South 1189 01:00:18.250 --> 01:00:21.940 Carolina should have an OBGYN? What is so radical about 1190 01:00:21.980 --> 01:00:23.599 thinking that you should be able to afford to see 1191 01:00:23.639 --> 01:00:26.280 a doctor when you get sick? What is so radical 1192 01:00:26.320 --> 01:00:28.639 about thinking if your community doesn't want a data center, 1193 01:00:28.679 --> 01:00:31.099 there shouldn't be a data center built there? I believe 1194 01:00:31.119 --> 01:00:34.260 that Darlene's policies, whichever ones she actually has, are the 1195 01:00:34.300 --> 01:00:38.489 radical policies. I'm fighting for everyday South Carolina kids and families, 1196 01:00:38.650 --> 01:00:41.369 and I am so proud of my policy platform. I'm 1197 01:00:41.429 --> 01:00:43.789 proud of my record of being a public servant and 1198 01:00:43.829 --> 01:00:46.409 fighting for South Carolinians. And nothing that is said in 1199 01:00:46.429 --> 01:00:48.170 the Oval Office is going to change that. 1200 01:00:49.059 --> 01:00:53.320 South Carolina is a tough state. It is one Trump 1201 01:00:53.340 --> 01:00:56.929 won by about 18 points. It's more Republican than a 1202 01:00:56.949 --> 01:00:58.849 lot of these other Senate races and Republican states that 1203 01:00:58.869 --> 01:01:01.269 Democrats have gotten hopeful about like Texas and Ohio. I 1204 01:01:01.929 --> 01:01:04.210 think a lot of Democrats out there have a lot 1205 01:01:04.250 --> 01:01:06.010 of scar tissue because they got their hopes up about 1206 01:01:06.030 --> 01:01:10.559 Jimmy Harrison beating Lindsey Graham. So a lot of people, 1207 01:01:10.579 --> 01:01:12.260 I imagine they're going to be impressed by this interview. 1208 01:01:12.280 --> 01:01:14.199 They're going to be interested in your candidacy and they're 1209 01:01:14.219 --> 01:01:16.460 trying to decide whether this is a good place to 1210 01:01:16.500 --> 01:01:18.380 invest their time and energy. What is your case for 1211 01:01:18.440 --> 01:01:21.719 why you can win this race in this very tough state. 1212 01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:25.170 So this Senate race in 2026 in South Carolina really 1213 01:01:25.190 --> 01:01:27.510 couldn't be any more different than the race that Jamie 1214 01:01:27.530 --> 01:01:31.250 Harrison ran in 2020. First and foremost, it's a midterm year. 1215 01:01:31.309 --> 01:01:36.719 The president is not on the ballot to boost Republican turnout. Secondly, 1216 01:01:36.820 --> 01:01:40.500 Jamie Harrison was running against a powerful incumbent senator who 1217 01:01:40.519 --> 01:01:44.599 was very well-funded. Now I'm running against a virtual unknown who, 1218 01:01:44.679 --> 01:01:47.920 as we already said, has no political talent, clearly bad 1219 01:01:47.980 --> 01:01:51.559 political instincts, and an absolute lack of charisma. We also 1220 01:01:51.599 --> 01:01:55.199 have an incredibly divided Republican Party. Despite the fact that 1221 01:01:55.260 --> 01:01:58.619 Trump spent millions of dollars propping Darlene up in the 1222 01:01:58.679 --> 01:02:01.469 election earlier this week, she only won by five points. 1223 01:02:01.949 --> 01:02:04.409 And in Ralph Norman's speech that night, he didn't give 1224 01:02:04.469 --> 01:02:07.849 a ringing endorsement to Darlene. He's bitter that Trump got involved. 1225 01:02:08.199 --> 01:02:11.320 Ralph Norman's supporters are really upset about the fact that 1226 01:02:11.340 --> 01:02:14.059 this is just going to potentially be a Graham dynasty. 1227 01:02:14.500 --> 01:02:16.840 And so the Republican Party is incredibly divided. And then 1228 01:02:16.880 --> 01:02:19.679 I'm a very different candidate than my friend, Jamie Harrison. 1229 01:02:19.960 --> 01:02:22.429 I'm not a career politician. I'm not a former state 1230 01:02:22.469 --> 01:02:25.750 party chair or lobbyist. I'm a pediatrician and a public 1231 01:02:25.829 --> 01:02:28.809 school mom who comes at politics from a very different 1232 01:02:30.190 --> 01:02:32.280 And so, you know, I got in this race over 1233 01:02:32.320 --> 01:02:34.159 a year ago thinking there was a chance that the 1234 01:02:34.199 --> 01:02:37.099 stars would align, that this could be the year that 1235 01:02:37.139 --> 01:02:39.599 we could win this Senate seat. And the stars have 1236 01:02:39.639 --> 01:02:41.579 aligned in a way that we never in a million 1237 01:02:41.599 --> 01:02:43.340 years thought that they would. And now we are in 1238 01:02:43.380 --> 01:02:45.780 a real position to win this thing. We just released 1239 01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:48.030 a poll this week that shows that I'm tied with 1240 01:02:48.050 --> 01:02:50.329 Darlene right out of the gate, 41 to 41. And 1241 01:02:50.349 --> 01:02:52.750 this is a very real, robust poll. And then on 1242 01:02:52.769 --> 01:02:55.449 the informed ballot, I go up by five points. And 1243 01:02:55.469 --> 01:02:57.050 the way that I'm doing that in a state that 1244 01:02:57.070 --> 01:02:59.889 Trump won by 18 points is is because I'm appealing 1245 01:02:59.969 --> 01:03:03.860 to those really critical independent voters and center-right Republican voters. 1246 01:03:03.980 --> 01:03:07.800 I'm plus 33 points with independents right now. We just 1247 01:03:07.860 --> 01:03:10.940 launched our first general election ad on Wednesday, so we 1248 01:03:10.960 --> 01:03:12.800 have a leg up on Darlene in that. She just 1249 01:03:12.820 --> 01:03:15.280 spent all of her money to escape her own primary, 1250 01:03:15.559 --> 01:03:18.019 and we've been building a war chest to compete in November. 1251 01:03:18.099 --> 01:03:20.539 So this is a change election cycle. People are looking 1252 01:03:20.559 --> 01:03:23.099 for a new generation of leadership. They're certainly not looking 1253 01:03:23.139 --> 01:03:25.880 for a rubber stamp for this or any other administrations. 1254 01:03:26.469 --> 01:03:32.030 South Carolina is now the first Democratic primary state. There 1255 01:03:32.070 --> 01:03:37.039 are already a lot of Democrats coming through South Carolina 1256 01:03:37.420 --> 01:03:39.880 who may possibly just happen to be considering to run 1257 01:03:39.900 --> 01:03:42.519 for president. Do you plan to campaign with any of 1258 01:03:42.539 --> 01:03:45.019 these national Democrats coming through? Have you thought about that? 1259 01:03:45.219 --> 01:03:47.280 This is a question a lot of Senate candidates are 1260 01:03:47.320 --> 01:03:48.420 getting in these sort of red states. 1261 01:03:48.909 --> 01:03:51.159 You know, I'm really focused on spending as much time 1262 01:03:51.219 --> 01:03:54.920 as I can with South Carolina voters. That's what's most important. 1263 01:03:54.940 --> 01:03:57.019 That is my path to win. And that's also why 1264 01:03:57.059 --> 01:03:57.880 I'm in this race. 1265 01:03:57.920 --> 01:03:58.239 You're right. 1266 01:03:58.260 --> 01:04:01.300 There's a lot of national Democrats who are spending time 1267 01:04:01.360 --> 01:04:04.159 in South Carolina. And I think that's great because, you know, 1268 01:04:04.300 --> 01:04:07.239 as we expand the Senate map, that path is definitely 1269 01:04:07.280 --> 01:04:10.289 throughout the Southeast. We need more Democratic Party investment in 1270 01:04:10.329 --> 01:04:12.380 the South. And having all of this first in the 1271 01:04:12.420 --> 01:04:15.159 nation attention is only going to help us grow strength 1272 01:04:15.219 --> 01:04:18.380 as a party in South Carolina. So I welcome these visits. 1273 01:04:18.460 --> 01:04:20.539 But what I've been saying is I'll return these phone 1274 01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:23.449 calls on November 4th when I'm South Carolina's next senator. 1275 01:04:23.730 --> 01:04:25.789 And then we can start to strategize about what 2028 1276 01:04:25.789 --> 01:04:27.010 is going to look like. 1277 01:04:27.409 --> 01:04:30.449 So no campaigning with sort of National Democratic or National 1278 01:04:30.469 --> 01:04:32.849 Democrats or presidential candidates, all South Carolina is what you're saying. 1279 01:04:33.130 --> 01:04:35.239 It's not our focus. We're taking it on a case 1280 01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:37.559 by case basis. You know, Pete Buttigieg was just in 1281 01:04:37.619 --> 01:04:41.369 town for our our annual issues conference. And I had 1282 01:04:41.409 --> 01:04:43.610 the fortune of saying hello to him there. But we're 1283 01:04:43.630 --> 01:04:45.489 really focused on spending time with voters. 1284 01:04:46.030 --> 01:04:49.230 And you're a candidate. You're also a doctor. I wanted 1285 01:04:49.250 --> 01:04:53.030 to get your reaction to what is going on in 1286 01:04:53.050 --> 01:04:56.429 this country with the measles outbreak. There's reports that RFK Jr. 1287 01:04:56.449 --> 01:04:58.420 may have lied to Congress. This is now, I think 1288 01:04:58.440 --> 01:05:00.780 by some measures, the largest measles outbreak in the United 1289 01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:02.860 States in 35 years. What's your reaction? 1290 01:05:03.400 --> 01:05:05.219 I mean, most of what comes out of RFK Jr. 1291 01:05:05.219 --> 01:05:08.090 's mouth are lies. So I'm not surprised to hear that. 1292 01:05:08.190 --> 01:05:10.809 But I got in this race. I seriously started considering 1293 01:05:10.829 --> 01:05:13.300 getting in this race the day RFK Jr. was nominated 1294 01:05:13.340 --> 01:05:16.480 to lead HHS because as a pediatrician, he's been my 1295 01:05:16.539 --> 01:05:19.420 professional arch nemesis for decades. He's nothing more than a 1296 01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:23.199 grifter and a conspiracy theorist who's been peddling an anti-vaccine 1297 01:05:23.239 --> 01:05:27.239 conspiracy theories for decades while simultaneously enriching himself. And as 1298 01:05:27.280 --> 01:05:30.019 a result of that, as a pediatrician, I've watched over 1299 01:05:30.059 --> 01:05:33.539 my 20-year career a slow and steady rise in vaccine 1300 01:05:33.599 --> 01:05:36.659 refusal and vaccine hesitancy. And that is the exact reason 1301 01:05:36.679 --> 01:05:39.789 that we are seeing a resurgence of preventable infectious diseases 1302 01:05:40.210 --> 01:05:42.869 all across this country. In South Carolina, we just had 1303 01:05:42.889 --> 01:05:45.530 a measles outbreak in Spartanburg County where there were nearly 1304 01:05:45.590 --> 01:05:49.510 a thousand documented cases of the measles. So one of 1305 01:05:49.550 --> 01:05:52.510 the reasons it is so urgent that Democrats win in 1306 01:05:52.570 --> 01:05:55.760 November is because we cannot allow RFK Jr. to have 1307 01:05:55.860 --> 01:05:59.880 two more years of unfettered access leading our nation's Department 1308 01:05:59.920 --> 01:06:03.360 of Health and Human Services. This executive order from the 1309 01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:08.480 Trump administration dismantling the routine childhood immunization schedule is not 1310 01:06:08.519 --> 01:06:11.980 at all based on an evolution of scientific evidence. It 1311 01:06:12.059 --> 01:06:16.210 is based on political ideology. Children will unnecessarily get sick 1312 01:06:16.389 --> 01:06:19.250 and suffer, and some will die as a result of 1313 01:06:19.289 --> 01:06:22.309 this disinformation campaign from the Federal Department of Health and 1314 01:06:22.329 --> 01:06:23.010 Human Services. 1315 01:06:23.570 --> 01:06:26.300 RFK Jr. 's ascension, everything we're talking about here, the 1316 01:06:26.360 --> 01:06:29.960 rise of vaccine skepticism is all sort of of a 1317 01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:31.920 piece with sort of the rise of the quote unquote, 1318 01:06:31.980 --> 01:06:35.639 make America healthy again movement where you, and I imagine 1319 01:06:35.679 --> 01:06:37.000 this is something you probably run into with a lot 1320 01:06:37.019 --> 01:06:40.610 of some of the families of your patients where people 1321 01:06:40.690 --> 01:06:46.590 have very legitimate questions about, you know, food safety, how to, 1322 01:06:46.710 --> 01:06:48.429 you know, what's the right choice for their kids. And 1323 01:06:48.630 --> 01:06:51.010 that is, and you know, people like RFK Jr. and 1324 01:06:51.050 --> 01:06:54.199 others have sort of weaponized that and pushed the country 1325 01:06:54.219 --> 01:06:57.630 in some dangerous directions. Have you thought about how, as 1326 01:06:57.670 --> 01:07:00.590 a senator or as a public figure, you with your 1327 01:07:00.610 --> 01:07:05.619 medical expertise could push back on the rise of Maha 1328 01:07:05.739 --> 01:07:09.820 and maybe have conversations with these well-meaning, I think, parents 1329 01:07:09.900 --> 01:07:12.360 who maybe are getting a lot of bad information from 1330 01:07:12.400 --> 01:07:12.880 social media? 1331 01:07:13.199 --> 01:07:13.539 Yeah. 1332 01:07:13.559 --> 01:07:15.539 And I like that you said well-meaning parents because I 1333 01:07:15.579 --> 01:07:18.199 don't blame the parents. Even the parents of the children 1334 01:07:18.260 --> 01:07:21.090 who are dying from these preventable infectious diseases because they've 1335 01:07:21.110 --> 01:07:23.989 chosen not to vaccinate their children. Parents don't know where 1336 01:07:24.030 --> 01:07:27.010 to turn for reliable information. I never in a million 1337 01:07:27.050 --> 01:07:29.730 years thought that I would say the sentence, we cannot 1338 01:07:29.789 --> 01:07:33.429 trust the medical recommendations coming from our federal government, but 1339 01:07:33.449 --> 01:07:36.500 we can't. We have to turn to our individual physicians. 1340 01:07:36.539 --> 01:07:39.039 So I encourage parents to talk to their own pediatricians, 1341 01:07:39.480 --> 01:07:42.099 to follow along with what the American Academy of Pediatrics 1342 01:07:42.199 --> 01:07:45.519 is saying, because that is an evidence-based organization. But what 1343 01:07:45.539 --> 01:07:48.900 they've done is really clever and dangerous because they're laundering 1344 01:07:48.960 --> 01:07:53.860 this really anti-science agenda that under this umbrella of making 1345 01:07:53.900 --> 01:07:57.400 America healthy again, of addressing the chronic disease epidemic that 1346 01:07:57.440 --> 01:08:00.139 children in America are facing. So when I'm asked what 1347 01:08:00.179 --> 01:08:02.260 I agree with the Trump administration on, one of the 1348 01:08:02.280 --> 01:08:04.380 things I say is they've shined a light on the 1349 01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:07.500 chronic disease epidemic amongst children in this country. But where 1350 01:08:07.519 --> 01:08:10.420 we disagree is the root causes of that chronic disease 1351 01:08:10.500 --> 01:08:13.469 epidemic and actually the solution. So you can't in one 1352 01:08:13.510 --> 01:08:16.270 sentence say we want to address chronic diseases in children. 1353 01:08:16.550 --> 01:08:19.489 And then in the next action, you gut the Medicaid program, 1354 01:08:19.529 --> 01:08:22.630 which is the largest insurer of children. across the country. 1355 01:08:22.670 --> 01:08:24.689 You can't put someone like RFK Jr. at the helm 1356 01:08:24.729 --> 01:08:31.210 of HHS and pretend like you're following scientifically sound medical recommendations. 1357 01:08:31.310 --> 01:08:33.949 So they've shined a light on the problem. I'm going 1358 01:08:33.970 --> 01:08:35.569 to win my election. I'll go toe to toe with 1359 01:08:35.649 --> 01:08:38.229 RFK Jr. We will impeach and remove him. And then 1360 01:08:38.250 --> 01:08:40.149 we will take that big bright light they shined on 1361 01:08:40.170 --> 01:08:43.649 this epidemic and then actually address it through an evidence-based, 1362 01:08:43.789 --> 01:08:45.090 scientifically sound approach. 1363 01:08:45.510 --> 01:08:46.750 Before I let you go, I want to give you 1364 01:08:46.770 --> 01:08:49.289 a chance to tell our listeners where they can go 1365 01:08:49.350 --> 01:08:51.479 to help your campaign if they so choose. 1366 01:08:51.760 --> 01:08:55.220 Yeah, so they can go to DrAnnieAndrews.com and they can 1367 01:08:55.260 --> 01:08:57.729 follow along on social media. We're very active on social 1368 01:08:57.770 --> 01:09:01.199 media at Annie Andrews MD. We also just launched a 1369 01:09:01.260 --> 01:09:04.979 new exciting website called DebateMeDarlene.com where they can go and 1370 01:09:05.020 --> 01:09:07.579 see how many days, hours, minutes, and seconds it's been 1371 01:09:07.619 --> 01:09:10.550 since I challenged Darlene Graham to debate me this general 1372 01:09:10.590 --> 01:09:13.430 election season. So lots of ways to follow along. I 1373 01:09:13.470 --> 01:09:15.670 encourage people to check out the website, chip in what 1374 01:09:15.710 --> 01:09:18.229 they can and help us expand the Senate map through 1375 01:09:18.270 --> 01:09:20.890 the South and this really exciting opportunity in South Carolina. 1376 01:09:21.329 --> 01:09:22.909 Dr. Annie Andrews, thank you so much for joining us 1377 01:09:22.949 --> 01:09:24.930 on Pod Save America and good luck down the stretch here. 1378 01:09:25.149 --> 01:09:26.050 Thank you so much, Dan. 1379 01:09:26.789 --> 01:09:28.489 That's our show for today. 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