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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Leasy

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<v Speaker 2>The story we might talk about tomorrow night is the

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump lost an election in Canada tonight. The Liberal

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<v Speaker 2>Party Prime Minister Mark Carney has won. I can't say

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<v Speaker 2>re election because he stepped into the void once Prime

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<v Speaker 2>Minister Trudeau left office. Connie is a Harvard graduate, former

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<v Speaker 2>backup goaltender at Harvard University's a hockey team. So now

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump has the deal with a Harvard man in Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>At least that's what the polls are suggesting. Reading here

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<v Speaker 2>in New York Times, Canadian Election, Canada Election twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five live updates, polls start to close as voters choose

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<v Speaker 2>new leader. Stunning comeback. According to Washington Post, Connie's Liberals

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<v Speaker 2>win Canada's federal election. A CNN can Canadian media projecting

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<v Speaker 2>a win for Liberals in Canada USA today. Carnie wins

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<v Speaker 2>Canada's election, riding Canadian fury a Trump. New York Time

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five Canada Federal election Live results. Liberals win

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<v Speaker 2>so again. I think that the we'll see this the

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<v Speaker 2>results is still somewhat early here, only about According to

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<v Speaker 2>the Times, A little more than a third of the

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<v Speaker 2>results have been closed. In terms of the votes, looks

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<v Speaker 2>like in Toronto and Ottawa and the Liberal Party did

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<v Speaker 2>very well, whereas in Western Canada the Conservatives did well well.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see how it works out, but I think at

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<v Speaker 2>this point the consensus is that Carnie wins and po

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<v Speaker 2>Liver if that's how it's pronounced, Perliva Pierre Poliv is

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<v Speaker 2>trailing by thirteen point six points overall. But anyway, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>see how that goes. Perhaps check on that to one

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<v Speaker 2>night tonight, we're talking about Karen read case, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a subject that people are interested in, and that's why

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to stick with it. Okay, let me go

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<v Speaker 2>to Christine in Dedham. Christine, welcome, you were next on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for calling in. Great to see you yesterday. Great

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<v Speaker 2>to see you yesterday. Thanks for coming.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so fun, it really was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a great time. I was so happy

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<v Speaker 2>to meet so many people, including yourself. It was I

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<v Speaker 2>never ate. I spent the entire three hours talking to people,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm happy I did that.

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<v Speaker 3>Did they give you one thing who to take home?

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<v Speaker 3>My hope?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I came moment I think I had

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<v Speaker 2>milk and cookies. I should have nibbled off of everyone's plate,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I would have been all.

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<v Speaker 3>Set right, right exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you get a chance to watch any of

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<v Speaker 2>this testimony today?

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't, but I thought today the Supreme Court turner down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, they would not, they would not consider the case.

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<v Speaker 2>You need four of the nine Supreme Court justices for

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<v Speaker 2>the court to take the case on. So if you

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<v Speaker 2>can't get four, well, yeah, it's and also by the

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<v Speaker 2>way to getting what's called you know, getting a case

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<v Speaker 2>accepted of the process called Scherai, it's very difficult. The

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<v Speaker 2>court accepts a small percentage of cases, like two or

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<v Speaker 2>three percent, and would have been interesting, but they chose

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<v Speaker 2>not to accept They've chosen not to take it.

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<v Speaker 3>Some people I've been talking to I'm still hearing it.

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<v Speaker 3>And he knew something about the cops. That he said something,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's why I think that they were now them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well here's yeah again people people have alluded to that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that in a lot of these cases

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<v Speaker 2>you ever get the story. I'm hoping that the judge,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, conducts the trial as fairly as possible, and

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<v Speaker 2>that a second jury takes a look at the case

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<v Speaker 2>and and and you know, comes to a to a

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<v Speaker 2>good decision. Obviously, to convict her on any of the counts,

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<v Speaker 2>they have to vote, you know, nine to nothing rather

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<v Speaker 2>twelve to nothing. To convict her have to vote unanimously.

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<v Speaker 2>There apparently was a unanimous consensus that she was not

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<v Speaker 2>guilty of second degree and she was not guilty of

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<v Speaker 2>leaving the scene. But I guess that there was a

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<v Speaker 2>there were some rumors that the first jury was willing

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<v Speaker 2>to convict her or at least with leaning to convictor

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<v Speaker 2>nine three. Who knows. Let's let's let the process play out.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's have some faith in the system. I would not

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<v Speaker 2>want to be in her shoes. I'm sure you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to be in her shoes.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, but she's never had any convictions or anything,

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<v Speaker 3>so I don't know she has they said, no records

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<v Speaker 3>of anything that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I'm sure her well that that

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<v Speaker 2>could only work for her. What do you think about

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<v Speaker 2>her demeanor in court and going to and from court.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your sense on that or do you have a

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<v Speaker 2>sense on that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like it. That's the smile that she's got

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<v Speaker 3>on my face. I think she's going to start taking

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<v Speaker 3>it more seriously. I don't like that cat at off.

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<v Speaker 2>The Defense Warriers should hire you, should hire you as

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<v Speaker 2>a consultant, Christine.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel sorry to his family. I really do. To

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<v Speaker 3>see her smarting and all. I feel sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it sounded like he was a good guy. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean from every all the stories that I've read. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>let's let's let's let the jury have at it and

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<v Speaker 2>see what they come up with. Hopefully within the next

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<v Speaker 2>few weeks, six or so weeks, we'll have a decision

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll talk about it then too. Thank you Christine again.

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<v Speaker 2>Great to see you yesterday. Thanks for taking the picture.

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<v Speaker 4>With you too.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 4>It was great.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope you do it again.

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<v Speaker 2>Well we'll figure out, well, you know, we we do

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<v Speaker 2>these things sporadically. You keep listening, we'll come up with

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<v Speaker 2>something else. Okay, thanks, Well that's that's that's pretty convenient too.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know if we could get in there.

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<v Speaker 2>They they gave us a nice area yesterday. I think

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<v Speaker 2>everybody was comfortable. The band was great, The winnakers were

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<v Speaker 2>just great. I thought they were perfect, perfect and I

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<v Speaker 2>hope that everybody got a chance to exchange some phone

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<v Speaker 2>numbers and and make some friendships.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all that matters, right, exactly, Have a good night.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, go take quick break here. Who we got

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<v Speaker 2>coming up Mexico, Jimmy and Southey, got Jamie and Wooster,

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<v Speaker 2>Gary and Mona. We're going to carry this to the

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<v Speaker 2>end tonight. This, this has again exceeded my expectations. We

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<v Speaker 2>had a subject that we were going to talk about tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the arrest of the judges by the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to that, I'm sure tomorrow night, which is

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<v Speaker 2>which is fine. We might get to the Canadian election

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow night. Who knows. We just it's important to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate to turn a subject off when the callers

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<v Speaker 2>are interested, and clearly the callers are interested in this

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<v Speaker 2>one tonight. Back on night Side right after these quick messages.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're on night Side with Dan Ray on WAZ

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<v Speaker 1>Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get right back to it. Gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>to Jim and South Austin. Jimmy, you were next on niceight.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome man, Jimmy there. Okay, we'll put jim on hold,

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<v Speaker 2>no problem. If people aren't ready, they're not ready. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>just keep rolling here, going to get to Mona in Halifax. Hi, Mona,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you welcome?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, Dan bring in program as usual.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you very much. You're very kind to say that.

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<v Speaker 2>What is your thought in this case?

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<v Speaker 6>I really don't know a lot about it, But my

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<v Speaker 6>opinion is there was alcohol involved, and all kinds of

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<v Speaker 6>things happen, and that's involved from experience, not yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sometimes it can it can lead in bad places.

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<v Speaker 2>And what do they also say, nothing good happens after midnight,

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<v Speaker 2>So certainly nothing good here happened after midnight.

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<v Speaker 6>That's that's my opinion. But when they do want to

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<v Speaker 6>know a lot about my Niecess live in Galway and

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<v Speaker 6>once in Salt Hills Country, Galway, Ireland. So I just

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<v Speaker 6>call them and they know all about it.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're following it over there. Okay, that's interesting, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>following over there closely. Huh.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes.

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<v Speaker 6>When I was there on October and we're asking me

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<v Speaker 6>all about it, I said, I really don't know. He said,

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<v Speaker 6>you don't know. I really wasn't into it, So I really,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, that's my opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think they have a lot of newspapers over

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<v Speaker 2>there that that pick up on all things American, and

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<v Speaker 2>particularly things in America that involve boyfriend, girlfriend and scandals

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<v Speaker 6>All the guests, then the computer parts. Yeah, yes, that's

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<v Speaker 6>my opinion. I just had a quick question for you.

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<v Speaker 6>At nine o'clock. You had a guest on for about

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<v Speaker 6>the eyesight and the website. What was the website.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the website, it wasn't nine o'clock, It was actually

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<v Speaker 2>eight forty five. It is during the enclock hour, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's bemyeyes dot com. And that is a website in

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<v Speaker 2>which people who are you know, their vision is compromised,

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<v Speaker 2>or for that matter, they're totally lined can call this

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<v Speaker 2>the other thing which I would suggest you might do

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<v Speaker 2>is if you go tomorrow to Nightside on Demand, you

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<v Speaker 2>can go back and listen to that interview because Joan

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<v Speaker 2>Hamilton is the woman. She's from Boston, originally lives in Alaska.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a loyal Nightside listener, and she explained how that

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<v Speaker 2>she was actually able to help a blind person who

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<v Speaker 2>I guess had disconnected inadvertently knocked over something in their

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<v Speaker 2>to with Jones assistance help re configure where her where

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<v Speaker 2>her cable outlets should connect to the television, and she got.

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<v Speaker 6>I did hear that.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone can go to our website, which is Nightside on

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<v Speaker 2>the Mean dot com and Rob will have tonight's show

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<v Speaker 2>as he does every night by about three o'clock in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning. The first it's the hours of posted in

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<v Speaker 2>reverse form, so eleven, ten, nine to eight, and you

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<v Speaker 2>can go in and listen to it. There's a couple

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<v Speaker 2>it'll But as I say, if you just wanted it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's simply as I said to you, Bemiyes dot com

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<v Speaker 2>and that's the website. I'll get you there. Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, this was a friend of mine that has seen

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<v Speaker 6>you know, has a major problem with eyes, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just going to pass the information onto him.

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<v Speaker 2>There are millions of volunteers, millions of volunteers. It's an

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<v Speaker 2>the other night. Thank you so much, Mona.

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<v Speaker 6>As well, and then just one more thing. Next time

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<v Speaker 6>you're having a gathering, could you please have it on

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<v Speaker 6>the side shore.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we were kind of on the south shore. We

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<v Speaker 6>So interesting. I couldn't have come yesterday, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>That means acause yesterday, yesterday my son and daughter in

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<v Speaker 2>law presented us with our first granddaughter. We have a grandson,

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<v Speaker 6>My first great grandchild. Imagine that.

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<v Speaker 2>for the great grandchildren, Mona.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna hopefully get a good picture with her tomorrow

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<v Speaker 6>So my great grandchild is due on May nine, So

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, thank you so much, Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks mon, have a great night. All right, let's keep rolling.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna go to Jamie and Worster. Jamie you next nights.

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<v Speaker 4>I go right ahead, Jamie, You're right to the points here.

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<v Speaker 4>For all the people with the charlcase.

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<v Speaker 4>some sort of physical alplication in the house, because I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think the dog was directed to attack that person well, Keith,

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<v Speaker 4>then it got it to be a physical application. And

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<v Speaker 4>what is a dog gonna do when its owner is

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<v Speaker 2>Oh sure that yeah, but the data assumes that assumes

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<v Speaker 2>that he get into the house. Uh. And today the

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<v Speaker 2>forensics that were discussed by the forensic expert. As we

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<v Speaker 2>who works with a company called Celebrate, a digital intelligence expert,

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<v Speaker 2>basically argued that John O'Keeffe's cell phone if they were

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<v Speaker 2>And the cell phone, which all of us have learned

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<v Speaker 2>but I checked my cell phone fifty times a day.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it in my pocket?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's in my pocket because you're terrified of losing it, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And it showed that the cell phone never got into

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<v Speaker 2>the house, and that it was on the front lawn,

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<v Speaker 2>and that during that period from oh, you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>Also mean just maybe the physical altercation occurred outside then.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's my question, And I keep asking everyone the

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<v Speaker 2>and he suffers a fatal blow, whether he fell down

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, they're gonna basically say, oh, leave him on

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<v Speaker 2>that a bunch of cops are going to say that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not the way cops think, in.

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<v Speaker 4>maybe I'm thinking no, I mean, I'm a was thinking it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking he maybe stormed out of a house, say'd

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<v Speaker 4>and then they got an altercation and the dog got

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<v Speaker 4>and something like that, you know, and they're like, well.

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<v Speaker 2>That happened. Let's let's assume that happened that way. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't think that the police officers at that point

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<v Speaker 2>even that, even if they really didn't like him, that

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to say, hey, let's get an empt over

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<v Speaker 2>here and see what's going on. Let's see if we

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<v Speaker 2>can save this guy's life. I mean, you know, you hit,

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<v Speaker 2>you hit, you push somebody okay, and they fall down

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<v Speaker 2>normal people are gonna say, Okay, who's got who's got CPR?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but that's wrong. If they're all the.

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<v Speaker 2>More reason when you're hammered, all the more reason. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're hammered, you're gonna say to you said, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's a good point. That's a good point yet.

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<v Speaker 4>And anyways, anyways, I'll let you go, but one quick, quick,

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<v Speaker 4>quick question for you. Sure not to do with Karen Read.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's just because I thought of you the other

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<v Speaker 4>day when the whole I was watching the Red I

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<v Speaker 4>was listening to the Red Sox news. I heard about

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<v Speaker 4>Jared and the whole thing with Cleveland. I just want

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<v Speaker 4>to know what you're that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just a pall that some knuckleheads. I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>that behavior in ballparks. I think I've told the story.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember one time. It's gonna be twenty years ago

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<v Speaker 2>when Albert Bell was playing for the Indians. Now, Albert

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<v Speaker 2>Bell was ripped, Okay, I mean this guy had muscles

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<v Speaker 2>on muscles if you remember a yeah, And I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>saying that he was an altar boy, don't get me wrong, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was one of the guys that Red Sox

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<v Speaker 2>fans don't like. Fine, boom them whatever you want, give

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<v Speaker 2>him a rash whatever. But there were these four or five,

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't know, eighteen or nineteen year old who

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<v Speaker 2>if they met Albert Bell on Lansdowne Street after the game,

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<v Speaker 2>it would have been, oh, hello, mister Bell, you have

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<v Speaker 2>an autograph, and they're they're half in the bag and

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<v Speaker 2>they're you know, the yelling stuff at him, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the only thing. Yeah, I mean it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>thank god, it didn't get racial.

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<v Speaker 4>But it was, you know, I was hard by someone

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<v Speaker 4>would make any comments about what he opened up, then

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<v Speaker 4>you know, well.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly it. It's like way out of bounds. And

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<v Speaker 2>you got to give the Cleveland baseball team and Major

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<v Speaker 2>League Baseball some some credit on it. They threw the

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<v Speaker 2>guy out. You know, it's it's just it's out of bounds.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it's like it'd be like if all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, you know, he was going through a divorce.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say, okay, and someone wanted to go, you just

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<v Speaker 2>don't go. You don't go there with people call him

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<v Speaker 2>a bum. Hey you I hate the Red Sox, or

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<v Speaker 2>I love the Indians or what are their guardians or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you want, but just you know, it's like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like those two more runs in New York who

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<v Speaker 2>were trying to grab the glove of Mookie Betts last

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<v Speaker 2>year during one of the playoffs. It's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, those guys are out there. That's their job

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<v Speaker 2>to play baseball. Your job is to go watch, not

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<v Speaker 2>to try to jump. I love the people who run

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<v Speaker 2>out in the middle of the field and they get

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<v Speaker 2>they get hit by some security guard and it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>or I love the people. There's been a few people

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<v Speaker 2>who have been that's enough to run out on NFL

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<v Speaker 2>fields and all of a sudden, every sub linebacker that

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<v Speaker 2>levels the guy from the blind side. Mean, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the show, isn't you The show's the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Let the players play uh and uh and and and

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<v Speaker 2>don't don't hit him, behold it below the belt.

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<v Speaker 4>I was actually excited. I was actually really happy at Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 4>He took really immediate acts.

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<v Speaker 2>He did. Give him credit. Give him credit absolutely. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks Jamie, talk to you soon. Here comes the news

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<v Speaker 2>at the bottom of the hour, and I now for

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<v Speaker 2>the first time, have one line at six one seven

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<v Speaker 2>thirty and I have one line at six one seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Take your choice. When we get back, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get a report in the Canadian election from Greg and Ontario.

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<v Speaker 2>Jimmy from South Boston is called back. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure Jimmy's there when when When we get to

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<v Speaker 2>him this time, Rob okay uh. And we'll continue to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the Karen Reid case.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And if if we run out of steam there, I

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<v Speaker 2>got a couple of other times topics. Stay with us

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<v Speaker 2>here on Nightside on a Monday night.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on night Side with Dan Ray on wz Boston's

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<v Speaker 2>Back to the phones, you go. Let me go to

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<v Speaker 2>Greg and Ontario. Greg is our Canadian political reporter. Up

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<v Speaker 2>there is so designated last week, Greg, it looks as

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<v Speaker 2>if the Liberal Party has won.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, Dan, it looks like they squeaked this one out here.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm really kind of shocked at it. But I think

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<v Speaker 8>I see what's happened here today with the voters is

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<v Speaker 8>it's interesting because the Conservatives actually gained thirty seats, which

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<v Speaker 8>is pretty good, pretty phenomenal. And what happened was all

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<v Speaker 8>the northern part of Canada and into the east in

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<v Speaker 8>the far north areas were usually strong NDP And it

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<v Speaker 8>looks like they've abandoned the NDB party DP Party and

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<v Speaker 8>they've actually switched over and went liberal because as it

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<v Speaker 8>stands right now, the Liberals are actually at a loss

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<v Speaker 8>of two seats, but they've gained because of what the

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<v Speaker 8>NDP lost. And in a sense, and and and what so.

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<v Speaker 2>What does the the what does n d P stand for?

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<v Speaker 8>That's a New Democratic Party?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? And is that sort of our equivalent of Bernie

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<v Speaker 2>Sanders and uh and and AOC or are they are

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<v Speaker 2>they more moderate? Are they like the Bill Clinton Democrats?

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<v Speaker 2>Where are they on the spectrum compared to what we

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<v Speaker 2>think of as the Liberal Democratic Party?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, they would be more along the lines of the

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<v Speaker 8>AOC and that type of Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So they have they have thrown their lot in with

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<v Speaker 7>That yeah, the.

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<v Speaker 8>Peace Yeah, you're right there, Yeah, the n d P

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<v Speaker 8>and the block even some of the block Court Aqua

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<v Speaker 8>from Quebec, they've lost eight seats, so they they flipped

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<v Speaker 8>and they went liberal in some of these ridings. So

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<v Speaker 8>there's in Canada, there's three hundred and forty three seats

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<v Speaker 8>or ridings across the country. Yeah, and it takes one

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<v Speaker 8>hundred and seventy two to get a majority government. And

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<v Speaker 8>right now, yeah, so right now as it stands, the

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<v Speaker 8>numbers are one forty eight seats for the Conservatives at

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<v Speaker 8>one hundred and fifty eight for the Liberals. So it's

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<v Speaker 8>going to be a minority government for the Liberals. And

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<v Speaker 8>in a sense, what we're going to have here, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 8>are the Trudeau government. Because usually what happens is the

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<v Speaker 8>point seven percent popular vote and the Conservatives are sitting

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<v Speaker 8>right now at a percentage loss at forty one point seven.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like a US election. It's very close, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that Donald Trump helped the Conservatives up

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<v Speaker 2>there by his incessant will make Canada fifty first straight state,

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<v Speaker 2>that's absurd. It's never going to happen. Canadians, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>liberals are or conservatives are not going to want to.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, it can happen. I mean, it's Canada

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<v Speaker 2>is a protectorate of Britain of England. It's it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's monarch is King Charles. I think that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if Donald Trump understands that, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>We're definitely under that umbrella. You'd be surprised at how

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<v Speaker 8>many Canadians really don't kind of associate themselves with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I understand, but it's still it's don't In order

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<v Speaker 2>for that to have happened, you'd have to have like

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<v Speaker 2>sixty or sixty five percent at the Canadian and say, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a great idea become the fifty first state.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be lunacy in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 8>In my opinion, yeah, it would be if highly unlikely.

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<v Speaker 8>I know we've gone through this in the past where

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<v Speaker 8>that those talking points came about. But I got to

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<v Speaker 8>tell you now, this is my opinion. So I'm sixty five.

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<v Speaker 8>I've watched this country do things well, actually not do

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<v Speaker 8>a lot of things that should have done. And basically

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<v Speaker 8>what we're getting here, in my opinion again is Mark Karney,

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<v Speaker 8>which is Trudeau two point zero. He's got the same

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<v Speaker 8>cabinet members around him. And I'm at the point in

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<v Speaker 8>my life dead. I really am. I really am at

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<v Speaker 8>this time. I am going like I'm thinking to myself, geez,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, maybe the fifty first state thing isn't bad idea,

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<v Speaker 8>because there's nobody else that's going to come in this

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<v Speaker 8>country and get this country going like it should be.

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<v Speaker 8>I I don't get it. I just don't.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta find your own homegrown Brian mulrooney, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>you have to do out there, in my opinion. Hey, Greg,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for checking in. Give me a call later on

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<v Speaker 2>during the week when the dust settles and we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>more of your analysis. Very helpful. Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, Dawn the problem take care.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Greg. Let's keep rolling here. Going to go to Glenn,

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<v Speaker 2>who was prominent at the event yesterday and in Westwood, Glenn, Welcome,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you tonight?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, yesterday was the best day of my life. Literally,

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<v Speaker 7>I mean I felt like I was the man of

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<v Speaker 7>the hour. I actually think it might have been. I

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<v Speaker 7>gave out two business cards, one to Christina and wonderful

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<v Speaker 7>guy named Steve. Now, some woman, this is funny. I'll

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<v Speaker 7>take you quick. Some woe would come up to me

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<v Speaker 7>and goes, higuin, I'm Loorie from Canton. I'm your new wife.

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<v Speaker 7>And I said, let me give you my She goes, no,

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<v Speaker 7>I just want to say hi, and then she went off.

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<v Speaker 7>She wouldn't take my business card.

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<v Speaker 2>But well that that is not what I would call

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<v Speaker 2>a serious relationship there. I think she might have been

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<v Speaker 2>standing metaphorically at.

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<v Speaker 7>Those points and cheek yeah. Because of that song that

477
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<v Speaker 7>they did for me, the Winnakers, that was funny. Well,

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<v Speaker 7>they did what I asked them to do. I said,

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<v Speaker 7>try to get me a Republican group and they cried,

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<v Speaker 7>so glad.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't give up here. You're too young, You're too

482
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<v Speaker 2>young to give up on this. Okay, there's someone out there,

483
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<v Speaker 2>trust me. Okay, you never know. I mean, we're not

484
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<v Speaker 2>going to turn this into a dating show. No, I know,

485
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<v Speaker 2>but but obviously any of the uh you know, the

486
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<v Speaker 2>beautiful listeners who would who would love to meet you.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh you know again that they know they know how

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<v Speaker 2>to find you, that's for sure. But it was a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good day nonetheless, even though you're still single today, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I still think as as my friend Ron would say,

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<v Speaker 7>mission accomplished.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I hope you met a lot of nice people.

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<v Speaker 7>I can't. Well, yeah I did. I mean, considering how

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<v Speaker 7>busy it was, it was kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it was busy, trust me. I know I

496
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<v Speaker 2>was there for two seatings and never had anything to eat,

497
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<v Speaker 2>which is funny. Yeah, characteristic.

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<v Speaker 7>I noticed on my way out, poor Ron. I had

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<v Speaker 7>to go to New Hampshire. That's when all the old

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<v Speaker 7>radis were like, hi, Gwinn, I heed you on the radio,

501
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<v Speaker 7>and I'm like, well, I'm not trying to be rude,

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<v Speaker 7>but my driver has to leave now.

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<v Speaker 2>I said.

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<v Speaker 7>It's like, I'm trying to not be rude to him,

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<v Speaker 7>but not hold him up.

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<v Speaker 2>That was kind of you have to balance a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of interest here.

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<v Speaker 7>I had to jug here was.

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<v Speaker 2>A celebrity of sorts, and uh, there were people who

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<v Speaker 2>were asking for you and people who saw you out

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm glad that you enjoyed the day, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure they enjoyed meeting you as well. We will we'll

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<v Speaker 2>do something again, Okay. But that was one that I

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<v Speaker 2>thought was it was a huge success.

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<v Speaker 7>And there was. But well, very quickly I was calling

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<v Speaker 7>on the Karen Reid thing. I think she should be

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<v Speaker 7>indicted from antlatter. I think she killed him by accident,

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<v Speaker 7>not murder her. That's what I told Rob. I just

519
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<v Speaker 7>there was boozing. I mean, drinking and driving, as you know,

520
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<v Speaker 7>don't mix, especially when they're selling the ground. And I

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<v Speaker 7>agree with you, you're not supposed to if a CoP's

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<v Speaker 7>die and on the you're not supposed to just say,

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<v Speaker 7>oh well, it's not my problem.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I know. But I also think that the human

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<v Speaker 2>instincts should have kicked in, right, I agree with which,

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<v Speaker 2>which which tends to make me think that I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure he get into the house of mad. My friend

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<v Speaker 2>Loler in San Diego is convinced of it, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>keep being an open mind. I also want to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that I listened to what the evidence is in

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<v Speaker 2>front of the jurist. That's right, And because they are

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<v Speaker 2>juries tend to take their responsibilities very seriously. So let's

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<v Speaker 2>let's see what gets in. I thought that the prosecution

534
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<v Speaker 2>has had a couple of good days. And now you

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<v Speaker 2>would expect that because the prosecution is the one that's

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<v Speaker 2>uh uh you know, that's calling the witnesses and leading

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<v Speaker 2>the testimony. But I thought that today it was pretty uh,

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<v Speaker 2>pretty interesting. We'll see, we'll see what happened. In my

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<v Speaker 2>final comment, go.

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<v Speaker 7>Ahead, yeah, you know what, I hope you do some

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<v Speaker 7>Friday in that at eleven take a survey, do you right?

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<v Speaker 7>Which should we keep jury system who it is or

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<v Speaker 7>have paid professional judges, which I would prefer. I wanted

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<v Speaker 7>to do away with cherry of your peers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think jury of your peers is pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>in the Constitution, and I.

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<v Speaker 7>Think, wow, i'd like to see I think it's outmoded.

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<v Speaker 7>But that's just me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it may be, there may be some things that

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<v Speaker 2>are out motive. The Constitution can be amended, but it

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<v Speaker 2>takes uh, it takes a couple of votes in Congress

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<v Speaker 2>and three quarters of the states.

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<v Speaker 7>And our Constitutional Convention.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh that's I think you don't hold your breath on

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<v Speaker 2>that one, glad. Okay, trust me, Okay, I know There

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<v Speaker 2>are a lot of people who who talk about it,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's that's even you know why.

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<v Speaker 7>I just old j Simpsons the ver, you know, the joke.

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<v Speaker 7>Everybody knows he's guilty except Alan Dershowitz. Remember that was

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<v Speaker 7>a joke back in October benty five.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that, but again, that's I'm an infallible Look,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it is not an infallible process. It may

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<v Speaker 2>be the second worst legal process of any nation in

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<v Speaker 2>the world. Uh, and all the others are the first worst.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I know I've heard that.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, thanks, I gotta run, Thank you much, Thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>talk to you soon. Good night. Coming right back on

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<v Speaker 2>Night's Side, we got Bill, Jimmy and Tim. I got

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<v Speaker 2>a little room if you want to try six one, seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty. We've done three hours in Karen Reid, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm more than happy that we have. We can put

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<v Speaker 2>our Karen weed Read materials away until until the next

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<v Speaker 2>significant witness comes on and we'll well, we'll follow it

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<v Speaker 2>for you during the day and I want you to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to be prepared weird at night to uh

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<v Speaker 2>to take it up back on night Side right after.

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<v Speaker 1>This Night Side with Dan Ray I'm telling you Boston's

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<v Speaker 1>news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Back we go. Let's get him everybody in. Next up

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<v Speaker 2>is Jimmy in South Boston. Jim wasn't there before, but

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<v Speaker 2>I hope he's here now. Jimmy garright ahead.

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<v Speaker 9>I am here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we lost it before. What's on your mind tonight?

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<v Speaker 2>Give give us your take on the Karen Read case.

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<v Speaker 7>Jim My take is.

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<v Speaker 9>I you know, you talk about the evidence, and you

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<v Speaker 9>talk about the experts, and I honestly am just baffled

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<v Speaker 9>by the fact that I've never seen if you're supposed

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<v Speaker 9>to go for the truth, why is it that the

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<v Speaker 9>prosecution is working so hard to get rid of experts?

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<v Speaker 9>I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 5>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>First first, well, I'll give you an answer to that. Okay, First, first,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, there are a lot of experts out

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<v Speaker 2>there who are either prosecution experts or defense experts. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you're a prosecutor, your case is to

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<v Speaker 2>represent the people. It's the people versus the defendant. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you're taking the case, you better well be prepared

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<v Speaker 2>to believe that the case should result in a conviction.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you do not take a case as a

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<v Speaker 2>prosecutor from an ethical point of view and say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really not sure, but let's try to convict this person.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not what it's all about.

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<v Speaker 9>That's my point exactly. Is it seems to me that

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<v Speaker 9>they're not taking it from an ethical point of view. Fine, well,

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<v Speaker 9>it sounds.

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<v Speaker 2>To me like you're convinced of her innocence. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>do you leave open the possibility that that you could

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<v Speaker 2>be wrong in this case?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes?

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, But as I watched the evidence, in the amount

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<v Speaker 9>of evidence that shouldn't even be allowed in the courtroom,

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<v Speaker 9>when they when they come out with an evidence bag

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<v Speaker 9>that says, by the way, I follow this by default,

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<v Speaker 9>my wife is completely absorbed in it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's fine, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 9>It's when they bring an evidence bag that says sweatshirt

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<v Speaker 9>on it and there's three different pairs of types of

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<v Speaker 9>clothing within that bag, or they bring out a bag

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<v Speaker 9>that says two pieces of clear glass in two pieces

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<v Speaker 9>of clear glass, and four pieces of red glass come

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<v Speaker 9>out of that bag, there's a serious problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, again, I have not watched it as closely as

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<v Speaker 2>your wife. I have confidence, and I certainly have confidence

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<v Speaker 2>in an attorney's Yannetti and Jackson, they're going to do

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<v Speaker 2>their dondas to make sure she is not convicted. I

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<v Speaker 2>also know the prosecutor a little bit. I'm not close

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<v Speaker 2>friends with any of them, but I think that they

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<v Speaker 2>are legitimate lawyers, and I think that they believe in

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<v Speaker 2>the case they're putting in. Simple as that, Okay.

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<v Speaker 9>I understand that. I just so I try and just

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<v Speaker 9>follow the evidence, I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>And let's continue. We'll continue to follow the evidence. Jim,

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<v Speaker 2>I got three more I got to get in here,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm gonna let you run for now. But I

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate your call, and I appreciate your perspective. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Good night. Let me go to Bill in New York. Bill,

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<v Speaker 2>you were next time Nightsiger.

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<v Speaker 7>Right ahead, Bill, Hey, Dan, can you hear me?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey perfectly? I assume you're following this case in New York.

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<v Speaker 5>Too, Yes, I uh previous.

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<v Speaker 10>He's from Massachusetts, moved up here a couple of years ago,

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<v Speaker 10>and when I moved up here, that just happened, and

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<v Speaker 10>I was like, Wow, that's really crazy. But I want

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<v Speaker 10>to kind of debunk your theory on what the police

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<v Speaker 10>would they really he just put him out in the yard.

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<v Speaker 2>Give it you give it your best shot.

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<v Speaker 10>Go ahead, all right, Well, I think what happened is, uh,

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<v Speaker 10>he went inside the house, an altercation ensued, and they said, hey,

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<v Speaker 10>you know what, he'll uh, we'll throw him outside. We

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<v Speaker 10>beat the the bag out of him. We'll throw him outside,

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<v Speaker 10>he'll find his way home and then uh, well we'll

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<v Speaker 10>take care of it tomorrow. And well tomorrow comes and

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<v Speaker 10>there's a dead guy in the yard.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, that's fine, that's that's possible. I guess, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it's possible. How do you explain the phone

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<v Speaker 2>that the temperature of the phone, the phone not moving

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<v Speaker 2>forensically in staying. Do you think he lost his phone

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<v Speaker 2>on the front lawn when he went in the house.

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<v Speaker 10>May have, may have, but he could have gotten he

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<v Speaker 10>could have gotten the bag beat out of him as

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<v Speaker 10>soon as he in the house and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Along right, I can't Yeah, that's a legitimate theory. All right, Bill,

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it. I got two more I gotta get to.

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<v Speaker 2>But you said it well, and you said it quickly

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<v Speaker 2>and makes me think, which is what the show is

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<v Speaker 2>all about. Thank you man taught to you.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you Dan.

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<v Speaker 10>I appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 2>What what's we're in New York? Ye? Up? There Rochester, Syracuse.

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<v Speaker 2>You where you.

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<v Speaker 10>Located, Watertown right outside of for Drum.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I know that area very well. Thanks, talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you soon. Good night. Let me go next to

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<v Speaker 2>Tim and Wilbert. Tim, welcome back. Great to see you yesterday.

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<v Speaker 5>It was great to see you. I don't know what's

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<v Speaker 5>gonna happen. I've followed this all along life and just stopped.

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<v Speaker 5>I've paid attention to the news. I think he's going

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<v Speaker 5>to do a little time.

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<v Speaker 2>So you think some former fashion is going to come

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<v Speaker 2>back with a guilty.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I think he's going to do some time. Not

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<v Speaker 5>how much, I don't know, but anyhow, Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>That'll depend what what what the jury, if the jury

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<v Speaker 2>comes back with the conviction, and on what what count.

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<v Speaker 2>The more serious murder too, is gonna cause great, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>gonna penalize her more. But let's see, let's just see

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<v Speaker 2>how it goes let's follow the cases it goes along.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to focus on what happens on a day

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<v Speaker 2>to day basis, and when I see a day in

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<v Speaker 2>which I think there's some when I see a day

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<v Speaker 2>in which I see some excalplatory evidence, we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 2>that as well.

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<v Speaker 5>But I hope she don't. Also, right, when I was

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<v Speaker 5>saw you yesterday, the lady I was with Donna, she

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<v Speaker 5>took him to I'll pitch you excellent. Anyhow, you look

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<v Speaker 5>like a million bucks. You brought it over today and

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<v Speaker 5>he told me to thank you. You look like a

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<v Speaker 5>million You on me a side by side and she

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<v Speaker 5>hid up.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure we both looked like a million I'm sure we

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<v Speaker 2>both look like a million bucks.

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<v Speaker 5>Tim okay, and also Tommy, Tommy Romeo. Yeah, the guy

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<v Speaker 5>you talked to.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, that'd be great. You say hi to him. Tim

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<v Speaker 2>put me in the phone, and the buddy of his Tim,

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate. I got a run. I gotta get one

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<v Speaker 2>more in Okay, Thanks Pal, I'll talk to you soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me go to Rick and Duver. Rick, we got

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<v Speaker 2>about a minute for you. You have called late, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you what I got.

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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead, all right, Dan, just real quick. A person

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to be viol guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Correct,

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<v Speaker 4>She's already had one trial. It seems to me if

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<v Speaker 4>she wasn't convicted in the first trial, why are they

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<v Speaker 4>getting the sucond bite at the apple.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the jury came back with no. The jury did

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<v Speaker 2>never returned to verdict. So was. The jury is obligated

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<v Speaker 2>to come back either as guilty or not guilty. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't go back saying innocent. It's either guilty or not guilty.

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<v Speaker 2>And they were unable. I know there was some confusion,

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<v Speaker 2>but there was no verdict returned on any of the

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<v Speaker 2>three counts. Simple as that.

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<v Speaker 4>Trials. She wasn't found guilty or not guilty. That means

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<v Speaker 4>she wasn't found guilty.

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<v Speaker 2>But the jury, the jury, the jury is obligated. The

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<v Speaker 2>jury cannot end as a hung jury. They can end

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<v Speaker 2>as a hung jury. That it's up the prosecution whether

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<v Speaker 2>they decide to retry the case. That's just the way

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<v Speaker 2>the system works. Rick, I got a run. I'm flat

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<v Speaker 2>out of time. I wish she called earlier. Interesting call.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a great night, all right. I want to thank

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<v Speaker 2>everyone who was with us in Westwood yesterday. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to thank Rob Marita who showed up. She was the

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<v Speaker 2>hit of the party. I want to thank her for

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<v Speaker 2>her work today. And I'll remind you was always all dogs,

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<v Speaker 2>all cats, all pets go to heaven. That's my pal

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie Rayes, who passed fifteen years ago in February. That's

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<v Speaker 2>all your pets are who passed. They loved you and

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<v Speaker 2>you love them. I do believe you'll see them again.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope see you in tomorrow night on nightside of a

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<v Speaker 2>great Tuesday. Everyone, enjoy the weather this week and jump

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<v Speaker 2>on board with us. Jump on to meta right now

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<v Speaker 2>on Facebook with Dan Ray and I'll see him out

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of minutes. Thanks very much everyone,