Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Leasy
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Speaker 2: The story we might talk about tomorrow night is the
Speaker 2: President Trump lost an election in Canada tonight. The Liberal
Speaker 2: Party Prime Minister Mark Carney has won. I can't say
Speaker 2: re election because he stepped into the void once Prime
Speaker 2: Minister Trudeau left office. Connie is a Harvard graduate, former
Speaker 2: backup goaltender at Harvard University's a hockey team. So now
Speaker 2: Donald Trump has the deal with a Harvard man in Canada.
Speaker 2: At least that's what the polls are suggesting. Reading here
Speaker 2: in New York Times, Canadian Election, Canada Election twenty twenty
Speaker 2: five live updates, polls start to close as voters choose
Speaker 2: new leader. Stunning comeback. According to Washington Post, Connie's Liberals
Speaker 2: win Canada's federal election. A CNN can Canadian media projecting
Speaker 2: a win for Liberals in Canada USA today. Carnie wins
Speaker 2: Canada's election, riding Canadian fury a Trump. New York Time
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five Canada Federal election Live results. Liberals win
Speaker 2: so again. I think that the we'll see this the
Speaker 2: results is still somewhat early here, only about According to
Speaker 2: the Times, A little more than a third of the
Speaker 2: results have been closed. In terms of the votes, looks
Speaker 2: like in Toronto and Ottawa and the Liberal Party did
Speaker 2: very well, whereas in Western Canada the Conservatives did well well.
Speaker 2: We'll see how it works out, but I think at
Speaker 2: this point the consensus is that Carnie wins and po
Speaker 2: Liver if that's how it's pronounced, Perliva Pierre Poliv is
Speaker 2: trailing by thirteen point six points overall. But anyway, we'll
Speaker 2: see how that goes. Perhaps check on that to one
Speaker 2: night tonight, we're talking about Karen read case, which is
Speaker 2: a subject that people are interested in, and that's why
Speaker 2: we're going to stick with it. Okay, let me go
Speaker 2: to Christine in Dedham. Christine, welcome, you were next on Nightside.
Speaker 2: Thanks for calling in. Great to see you yesterday. Great
Speaker 2: to see you yesterday. Thanks for coming.
Speaker 3: It was so fun, it really was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a great time. I was so happy
Speaker 2: to meet so many people, including yourself. It was I
Speaker 2: never ate. I spent the entire three hours talking to people,
Speaker 2: and I'm happy I did that.
Speaker 3: Did they give you one thing who to take home?
Speaker 3: My hope?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I came moment I think I had
Speaker 2: milk and cookies. I should have nibbled off of everyone's plate,
Speaker 2: and then I would have been all.
Speaker 3: Set right, right exactly.
Speaker 2: So do you get a chance to watch any of
Speaker 2: this testimony today?
Speaker 3: I didn't, but I thought today the Supreme Court turner down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they would not, they would not consider the case.
Speaker 2: You need four of the nine Supreme Court justices for
Speaker 2: the court to take the case on. So if you
Speaker 2: can't get four, well, yeah, it's and also by the
Speaker 2: way to getting what's called you know, getting a case
Speaker 2: accepted of the process called Scherai, it's very difficult. The
Speaker 2: court accepts a small percentage of cases, like two or
Speaker 2: three percent, and would have been interesting, but they chose
Speaker 2: not to accept They've chosen not to take it.
Speaker 3: Some people I've been talking to I'm still hearing it.
Speaker 3: And he knew something about the cops. That he said something,
Speaker 3: and that's why I think that they were now them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well here's yeah again people people have alluded to that.
Speaker 2: I don't know that in a lot of these cases
Speaker 2: you ever get the story. I'm hoping that the judge,
Speaker 2: you know, conducts the trial as fairly as possible, and
Speaker 2: that a second jury takes a look at the case
Speaker 2: and and and you know, comes to a to a
Speaker 2: good decision. Obviously, to convict her on any of the counts,
Speaker 2: they have to vote, you know, nine to nothing rather
Speaker 2: twelve to nothing. To convict her have to vote unanimously.
Speaker 2: There apparently was a unanimous consensus that she was not
Speaker 2: guilty of second degree and she was not guilty of
Speaker 2: leaving the scene. But I guess that there was a
Speaker 2: there were some rumors that the first jury was willing
Speaker 2: to convict her or at least with leaning to convictor
Speaker 2: nine three. Who knows. Let's let's let the process play out.
Speaker 2: Let's have some faith in the system. I would not
Speaker 2: want to be in her shoes. I'm sure you wouldn't
Speaker 2: want to be in her shoes.
Speaker 3: But yeah, but she's never had any convictions or anything,
Speaker 3: so I don't know she has they said, no records
Speaker 3: of anything that's true.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm sure her well that that
Speaker 2: could only work for her. What do you think about
Speaker 2: her demeanor in court and going to and from court.
Speaker 2: What's your sense on that or do you have a
Speaker 2: sense on that.
Speaker 3: I don't like it. That's the smile that she's got
Speaker 3: on my face. I think she's going to start taking
Speaker 3: it more seriously. I don't like that cat at off.
Speaker 2: The Defense Warriers should hire you, should hire you as
Speaker 2: a consultant, Christine.
Speaker 3: I feel sorry to his family. I really do. To
Speaker 3: see her smarting and all. I feel sorry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounded like he was a good guy. I
Speaker 2: mean from every all the stories that I've read. But again,
Speaker 2: let's let's let's let the jury have at it and
Speaker 2: see what they come up with. Hopefully within the next
Speaker 2: few weeks, six or so weeks, we'll have a decision
Speaker 2: and we'll talk about it then too. Thank you Christine again.
Speaker 2: Great to see you yesterday. Thanks for taking the picture.
Speaker 4: With you too.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: It was great.
Speaker 3: I hope you do it again.
Speaker 2: Well we'll figure out, well, you know, we we do
Speaker 2: these things sporadically. You keep listening, we'll come up with
Speaker 2: something else. Okay, thanks, Well that's that's that's pretty convenient too.
Speaker 2: But I don't know if we could get in there.
Speaker 2: They they gave us a nice area yesterday. I think
Speaker 2: everybody was comfortable. The band was great, The winnakers were
Speaker 2: just great. I thought they were perfect, perfect and I
Speaker 2: hope that everybody got a chance to exchange some phone
Speaker 2: numbers and and make some friendships.
Speaker 3: That's all that matters, right, exactly, Have a good night.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks so much.
Speaker 2: All right, go take quick break here. Who we got
Speaker 2: coming up Mexico, Jimmy and Southey, got Jamie and Wooster,
Speaker 2: Gary and Mona. We're going to carry this to the
Speaker 2: end tonight. This, this has again exceeded my expectations. We
Speaker 2: had a subject that we were going to talk about tonight,
Speaker 2: which is the arrest of the judges by the Trump administration.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that, I'm sure tomorrow night, which is
Speaker 2: which is fine. We might get to the Canadian election
Speaker 2: tomorrow night. Who knows. We just it's important to me.
Speaker 2: I hate to turn a subject off when the callers
Speaker 2: are interested, and clearly the callers are interested in this
Speaker 2: one tonight. Back on night Side right after these quick messages.
Speaker 1: If you're on night Side with Dan Ray on WAZ
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Speaker 2: All right, let's get right back to it. Gonna go
Speaker 2: to Jim and South Austin. Jimmy, you were next on niceight.
Speaker 2: Welcome man, Jimmy there. Okay, we'll put jim on hold,
Speaker 2: no problem. If people aren't ready, they're not ready. We'll
Speaker 2: just keep rolling here, going to get to Mona in Halifax. Hi, Mona,
Speaker 2: how are you welcome?
Speaker 5: I mean, Dan bring in program as usual.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much. You're very kind to say that.
Speaker 2: What is your thought in this case?
Speaker 6: I really don't know a lot about it, But my
Speaker 6: opinion is there was alcohol involved, and all kinds of
Speaker 6: things happen, and that's involved from experience, not yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: It's sometimes it can it can lead in bad places.
Speaker 2: And what do they also say, nothing good happens after midnight,
Speaker 2: So certainly nothing good here happened after midnight.
Speaker 6: That's that's my opinion. But when they do want to
Speaker 6: know a lot about my Niecess live in Galway and
Speaker 6: once in Salt Hills Country, Galway, Ireland. So I just
Speaker 6: call them and they know all about it.
Speaker 2: So they're following it over there. Okay, that's interesting, Yeah,
Speaker 2: following over there closely. Huh.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 6: When I was there on October and we're asking me
Speaker 6: all about it, I said, I really don't know. He said,
Speaker 6: you don't know. I really wasn't into it, So I really,
Speaker 6: you know, that's my opinion.
Speaker 2: Well, I think they have a lot of newspapers over
Speaker 2: there that that pick up on all things American, and
Speaker 2: particularly things in America that involve boyfriend, girlfriend and scandals
Speaker 2: and you know, and you know there's a there's.
Speaker 6: All the guests, then the computer parts. Yeah, yes, that's
Speaker 6: my opinion. I just had a quick question for you.
Speaker 6: At nine o'clock. You had a guest on for about
Speaker 6: the eyesight and the website. What was the website.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the website, it wasn't nine o'clock, It was actually
Speaker 2: eight forty five. It is during the enclock hour, and
Speaker 2: it's bemyeyes dot com. And that is a website in
Speaker 2: which people who are you know, their vision is compromised,
Speaker 2: or for that matter, they're totally lined can call this
Speaker 2: website and get some help with and and you know,
Speaker 2: the other thing which I would suggest you might do
Speaker 2: is if you go tomorrow to Nightside on Demand, you
Speaker 2: can go back and listen to that interview because Joan
Speaker 2: Hamilton is the woman. She's from Boston, originally lives in Alaska.
Speaker 2: She's a loyal Nightside listener, and she explained how that
Speaker 2: she was actually able to help a blind person who
Speaker 2: I guess had disconnected inadvertently knocked over something in their
Speaker 2: house cables and even though she was blind, she was
Speaker 2: able I guess with limited vision to be able to
Speaker 2: to with Jones assistance help re configure where her where
Speaker 2: her cable outlets should connect to the television, and she got.
Speaker 6: I did hear that.
Speaker 2: Anyone can go to our website, which is Nightside on
Speaker 2: the Mean dot com and Rob will have tonight's show
Speaker 2: as he does every night by about three o'clock in
Speaker 2: the morning. The first it's the hours of posted in
Speaker 2: reverse form, so eleven, ten, nine to eight, and you
Speaker 2: can go in and listen to it. There's a couple
Speaker 2: of commercials you've got to listen to the price of
Speaker 2: the convenience, But go in and listen to it and
Speaker 2: it'll But as I say, if you just wanted it's
Speaker 2: it's simply as I said to you, Bemiyes dot com
Speaker 2: and that's the website. I'll get you there. Okay.
Speaker 6: Yes, this was a friend of mine that has seen
Speaker 6: you know, has a major problem with eyes, and yeah,
Speaker 6: I'm just going to pass the information onto him.
Speaker 2: There are millions of volunteers, millions of volunteers. It's an
Speaker 2: incredible organization that I knew nothing about until Joan called
Speaker 2: the other night. Thank you so much, Mona.
Speaker 6: As well, and then just one more thing. Next time
Speaker 6: you're having a gathering, could you please have it on
Speaker 6: the side shore.
Speaker 2: Well, we were kind of on the south shore. We
Speaker 2: were Westwood. I know that's not the south Shore, but well,
Speaker 2: you know, we tried to. We picked a location and
Speaker 2: we had a great turnout with.
Speaker 6: So interesting. I couldn't have come yesterday, and it was
Speaker 6: in New Hampshire. I have a granddaughter that's becoming a
Speaker 6: first time mother in May and ninth, so we went
Speaker 6: up to visits with her.
Speaker 2: That means acause yesterday, yesterday my son and daughter in
Speaker 2: law presented us with our first granddaughter. We have a grandson,
Speaker 2: so we were we were presented with a beautiful baby
Speaker 2: girl last night. Really I haven't met her yet. I'll
Speaker 2: meet her tomorrow. She had a swath of red hair,
Speaker 2: which kind of in my family, although I was family, yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: so so I'm very is a great.
Speaker 6: My first great grandchild. Imagine that.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think. I don't think I'll be around
Speaker 2: for the great grandchildren, Mona.
Speaker 6: I used to think the time just plays, and here
Speaker 6: I am.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hopefully get a good picture with her tomorrow
Speaker 2: and and post it.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: She uh is named Caroline Ruth is her name.
Speaker 6: So my great grandchild is due on May nine, So
Speaker 6: I went up to visit my granddaughter in Rochester, New Hampshire.
Speaker 2: For you.
Speaker 5: Okay, thank you so much, Dan.
Speaker 2: Thanks mon, have a great night. All right, let's keep rolling.
Speaker 2: You're gonna go to Jamie and Worster. Jamie you next nights.
Speaker 4: I go right ahead, Jamie, You're right to the points here.
Speaker 4: For all the people with the charlcase.
Speaker 5: One of the things that.
Speaker 4: Fascinates me about this as I heard it last two
Speaker 4: years is the whole thing with the dog bites and
Speaker 4: my fear that led me to believe that there was
Speaker 4: some sort of physical alplication in the house, because I
Speaker 4: don't think the dog was directed to attack that person well, Keith,
Speaker 4: but I think that those two gotten sheeted argument, and
Speaker 4: then it got it to be a physical application. And
Speaker 4: what is a dog gonna do when its owner is
Speaker 4: when he fails that its owner is threatened?
Speaker 2: Oh sure that yeah, but the data assumes that assumes
Speaker 2: that he get into the house. Uh. And today the
Speaker 2: forensics that were discussed by the forensic expert. As we
Speaker 2: mentioned earlier on the program, a fellow named Ian Whitten,
Speaker 2: who works with a company called Celebrate, a digital intelligence expert,
Speaker 2: basically argued that John O'Keeffe's cell phone if they were
Speaker 2: able to I guess what you and I would call
Speaker 2: ping the cell phone at different points during the night.
Speaker 2: And the cell phone, which all of us have learned
Speaker 2: to keep close to ourselves. And I don't know about you,
Speaker 2: but I checked my cell phone fifty times a day.
Speaker 2: Is it in my pocket?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's in my pocket because you're terrified of losing it, right,
Speaker 2: And it showed that the cell phone never got into
Speaker 2: the house, and that it was on the front lawn,
Speaker 2: and that during that period from oh, you know, the
Speaker 2: twelve thirty or so at night when supposedly he was
Speaker 2: dropped off, until six o'clock in the morning when his
Speaker 2: body was finally discovered in the midst of the snowstorm,
Speaker 2: that the temperature of the cell phone battery had dropped
Speaker 2: from eighty to thirty seven, which would.
Speaker 4: Also mean just maybe the physical altercation occurred outside then.
Speaker 2: But here's my question, And I keep asking everyone the
Speaker 2: same question, and people seem to ignore the question. You're
Speaker 2: telling me that if all of a sudden there's some
Speaker 2: police inside the house or outside the house, and and
Speaker 2: and he suffers a fatal blow, whether he fell down
Speaker 2: or whatever, they're gonna basically say, oh, leave him on
Speaker 2: the lawn or put him on the front lawn. That
Speaker 2: that a bunch of cops are going to say that.
Speaker 2: That's not the way cops think, in.
Speaker 4: My opinion, Yeah, no, that is an interesting point. But
Speaker 4: maybe I'm thinking no, I mean, I'm a was thinking it.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking he maybe stormed out of a house, say'd
Speaker 4: screw you guys, you know, and they followed him outside
Speaker 4: and then they got an altercation and the dog got
Speaker 4: in the way, and he fell and hit his head
Speaker 4: and something like that, you know, and they're like, well.
Speaker 2: That happened. Let's let's assume that happened that way. Okay.
Speaker 2: You don't think that the police officers at that point
Speaker 2: even that, even if they really didn't like him, that
Speaker 2: they're going to say, hey, let's get an empt over
Speaker 2: here and see what's going on. Let's see if we
Speaker 2: can save this guy's life. I mean, you know, you hit,
Speaker 2: you hit, you push somebody okay, and they fall down
Speaker 2: and you realize they've been hurt, you're gonna just walk
Speaker 2: away and say, hey, let them die. I mean no,
Speaker 2: normal people are gonna say, Okay, who's got who's got CPR?
Speaker 2: What do we get? What can we do here? You know, Okay,
Speaker 2: let's call the EMTs.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's wrong. If they're all the.
Speaker 2: More reason when you're hammered, all the more reason. If
Speaker 2: you're hammered, you're gonna say to you said, oh my god,
Speaker 2: this is not you. You get sober pretty quickly under
Speaker 2: those circumstances.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good point. That's a good point yet.
Speaker 4: And anyways, anyways, I'll let you go, but one quick, quick,
Speaker 4: quick question for you. Sure not to do with Karen Read.
Speaker 4: But it's just because I thought of you the other
Speaker 4: day when the whole I was watching the Red I
Speaker 4: was listening to the Red Sox news. I heard about
Speaker 4: Jared and the whole thing with Cleveland. I just want
Speaker 4: to know what you're that.
Speaker 2: I was just a pall that some knuckleheads. I've seen
Speaker 2: that behavior in ballparks. I think I've told the story.
Speaker 2: I remember one time. It's gonna be twenty years ago
Speaker 2: when Albert Bell was playing for the Indians. Now, Albert
Speaker 2: Bell was ripped, Okay, I mean this guy had muscles
Speaker 2: on muscles if you remember a yeah, And I'm not
Speaker 2: saying that he was an altar boy, don't get me wrong, Okay,
Speaker 2: but he was one of the guys that Red Sox
Speaker 2: fans don't like. Fine, boom them whatever you want, give
Speaker 2: him a rash whatever. But there were these four or five,
Speaker 2: like I don't know, eighteen or nineteen year old who
Speaker 2: if they met Albert Bell on Lansdowne Street after the game,
Speaker 2: it would have been, oh, hello, mister Bell, you have
Speaker 2: an autograph, and they're they're half in the bag and
Speaker 2: they're you know, the yelling stuff at him, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean the only thing. Yeah, I mean it didn't
Speaker 2: thank god, it didn't get racial.
Speaker 4: But it was, you know, I was hard by someone
Speaker 4: would make any comments about what he opened up, then
Speaker 4: you know, well.
Speaker 2: That's exactly it. It's like way out of bounds. And
Speaker 2: you got to give the Cleveland baseball team and Major
Speaker 2: League Baseball some some credit on it. They threw the
Speaker 2: guy out. You know, it's it's just it's out of bounds.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like it'd be like if all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, you know, he was going through a divorce.
Speaker 2: Let's say, okay, and someone wanted to go, you just
Speaker 2: don't go. You don't go there with people call him
Speaker 2: a bum. Hey you I hate the Red Sox, or
Speaker 2: I love the Indians or what are their guardians or
Speaker 2: whatever you want, but just you know, it's like that.
Speaker 2: It's like those two more runs in New York who
Speaker 2: were trying to grab the glove of Mookie Betts last
Speaker 2: year during one of the playoffs. It's like, you know,
Speaker 2: you know, those guys are out there. That's their job
Speaker 2: to play baseball. Your job is to go watch, not
Speaker 2: to try to jump. I love the people who run
Speaker 2: out in the middle of the field and they get
Speaker 2: they get hit by some security guard and it's like,
Speaker 2: or I love the people. There's been a few people
Speaker 2: who have been that's enough to run out on NFL
Speaker 2: fields and all of a sudden, every sub linebacker that
Speaker 2: levels the guy from the blind side. Mean, it's a
Speaker 2: you know, the show, isn't you The show's the game.
Speaker 2: Let the players play uh and uh and and and
Speaker 2: don't don't hit him, behold it below the belt.
Speaker 4: I was actually excited. I was actually really happy at Cleveland.
Speaker 4: He took really immediate acts.
Speaker 2: He did. Give him credit. Give him credit absolutely. Hey,
Speaker 2: thanks Jamie, talk to you soon. Here comes the news
Speaker 2: at the bottom of the hour, and I now for
Speaker 2: the first time, have one line at six one seven
Speaker 2: thirty and I have one line at six one seven.
Speaker 2: Take your choice. When we get back, we're going to
Speaker 2: get a report in the Canadian election from Greg and Ontario.
Speaker 2: Jimmy from South Boston is called back. I want to
Speaker 2: make sure Jimmy's there when when When we get to
Speaker 2: him this time, Rob okay uh. And we'll continue to
Speaker 2: talk about the Karen Reid case.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: And if if we run out of steam there, I
Speaker 2: got a couple of other times topics. Stay with us
Speaker 2: here on Nightside on a Monday night.
Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on wz Boston's
Speaker 1: news radio.
Speaker 2: Back to the phones, you go. Let me go to
Speaker 2: Greg and Ontario. Greg is our Canadian political reporter. Up
Speaker 2: there is so designated last week, Greg, it looks as
Speaker 2: if the Liberal Party has won.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Dan, it looks like they squeaked this one out here.
Speaker 8: I'm really kind of shocked at it. But I think
Speaker 8: I see what's happened here today with the voters is
Speaker 8: it's interesting because the Conservatives actually gained thirty seats, which
Speaker 8: is pretty good, pretty phenomenal. And what happened was all
Speaker 8: the northern part of Canada and into the east in
Speaker 8: the far north areas were usually strong NDP And it
Speaker 8: looks like they've abandoned the NDB party DP Party and
Speaker 8: they've actually switched over and went liberal because as it
Speaker 8: stands right now, the Liberals are actually at a loss
Speaker 8: of two seats, but they've gained because of what the
Speaker 8: NDP lost. And in a sense, and and and what so.
Speaker 2: What does the the what does n d P stand for?
Speaker 8: That's a New Democratic Party?
Speaker 2: Okay? And is that sort of our equivalent of Bernie
Speaker 2: Sanders and uh and and AOC or are they are
Speaker 2: they more moderate? Are they like the Bill Clinton Democrats?
Speaker 2: Where are they on the spectrum compared to what we
Speaker 2: think of as the Liberal Democratic Party?
Speaker 8: Yeah, they would be more along the lines of the
Speaker 8: AOC and that type of Okay.
Speaker 2: So they have they have thrown their lot in with
Speaker 2: the Liberals party.
Speaker 7: That yeah, the.
Speaker 8: Peace Yeah, you're right there, Yeah, the n d P
Speaker 8: and the block even some of the block Court Aqua
Speaker 8: from Quebec, they've lost eight seats, so they they flipped
Speaker 8: and they went liberal in some of these ridings. So
Speaker 8: there's in Canada, there's three hundred and forty three seats
Speaker 8: or ridings across the country. Yeah, and it takes one
Speaker 8: hundred and seventy two to get a majority government. And
Speaker 8: right now, yeah, so right now as it stands, the
Speaker 8: numbers are one forty eight seats for the Conservatives at
Speaker 8: one hundred and fifty eight for the Liberals. So it's
Speaker 8: going to be a minority government for the Liberals. And
Speaker 8: in a sense, what we're going to have here, unfortunately,
Speaker 8: is what we've had here for the last four years,
Speaker 8: are the Trudeau government. Because usually what happens is the
Speaker 8: Liberals and the NDP hook up at the hip a
Speaker 8: little bit to get bills passed. And in the Bloc
Speaker 8: Quebecqua they could go kind of either way with Conservative
Speaker 8: or Liberals when it comes to passing bills and laws,
Speaker 8: and what's where they side. So I'm kind of in
Speaker 8: the popular vote is the Liberals have a forty two
Speaker 8: point seven percent popular vote and the Conservatives are sitting
Speaker 8: right now at a percentage loss at forty one point seven.
Speaker 2: It sounds like a US election. It's very close, and
Speaker 2: I don't think that Donald Trump helped the Conservatives up
Speaker 2: there by his incessant will make Canada fifty first straight state,
Speaker 2: that's absurd. It's never going to happen. Canadians, you know,
Speaker 2: liberals are or conservatives are not going to want to.
Speaker 2: First of all, it can happen. I mean, it's Canada
Speaker 2: is a protectorate of Britain of England. It's it's it's
Speaker 2: it's it's monarch is King Charles. I think that I
Speaker 2: don't know if Donald Trump understands that, Yeah.
Speaker 8: We're definitely under that umbrella. You'd be surprised at how
Speaker 8: many Canadians really don't kind of associate themselves with that.
Speaker 2: Oh I understand, but it's still it's don't In order
Speaker 2: for that to have happened, you'd have to have like
Speaker 2: sixty or sixty five percent at the Canadian and say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is a great idea become the fifty first state.
Speaker 2: That would be lunacy in my opinion.
Speaker 8: In my opinion, yeah, it would be if highly unlikely.
Speaker 8: I know we've gone through this in the past where
Speaker 8: that those talking points came about. But I got to
Speaker 8: tell you now, this is my opinion. So I'm sixty five.
Speaker 8: I've watched this country do things well, actually not do
Speaker 8: a lot of things that should have done. And basically
Speaker 8: what we're getting here, in my opinion again is Mark Karney,
Speaker 8: which is Trudeau two point zero. He's got the same
Speaker 8: cabinet members around him. And I'm at the point in
Speaker 8: my life dead. I really am. I really am at
Speaker 8: this time. I am going like I'm thinking to myself, geez,
Speaker 8: you know, maybe the fifty first state thing isn't bad idea,
Speaker 8: because there's nobody else that's going to come in this
Speaker 8: country and get this country going like it should be.
Speaker 8: I I don't get it. I just don't.
Speaker 2: You gotta find your own homegrown Brian mulrooney, that's what
Speaker 2: you have to do out there, in my opinion. Hey, Greg,
Speaker 2: thanks for checking in. Give me a call later on
Speaker 2: during the week when the dust settles and we'll get
Speaker 2: more of your analysis. Very helpful. Thank you very much.
Speaker 8: Okay, Dawn the problem take care.
Speaker 2: Thanks Greg. Let's keep rolling here. Going to go to Glenn,
Speaker 2: who was prominent at the event yesterday and in Westwood, Glenn, Welcome,
Speaker 2: how are you tonight?
Speaker 7: Well, yesterday was the best day of my life. Literally,
Speaker 7: I mean I felt like I was the man of
Speaker 7: the hour. I actually think it might have been. I
Speaker 7: gave out two business cards, one to Christina and wonderful
Speaker 7: guy named Steve. Now, some woman, this is funny. I'll
Speaker 7: take you quick. Some woe would come up to me
Speaker 7: and goes, higuin, I'm Loorie from Canton. I'm your new wife.
Speaker 7: And I said, let me give you my She goes, no,
Speaker 7: I just want to say hi, and then she went off.
Speaker 7: She wouldn't take my business card.
Speaker 2: But well that that is not what I would call
Speaker 2: a serious relationship there. I think she might have been
Speaker 2: standing metaphorically at.
Speaker 7: Those points and cheek yeah. Because of that song that
Speaker 7: they did for me, the Winnakers, that was funny. Well,
Speaker 7: they did what I asked them to do. I said,
Speaker 7: try to get me a Republican group and they cried,
Speaker 7: so glad.
Speaker 2: You can't give up here. You're too young, You're too
Speaker 2: young to give up on this. Okay, there's someone out there,
Speaker 2: trust me. Okay, you never know. I mean, we're not
Speaker 2: going to turn this into a dating show. No, I know,
Speaker 2: but but obviously any of the uh you know, the
Speaker 2: beautiful listeners who would who would love to meet you.
Speaker 2: Uh you know again that they know they know how
Speaker 2: to find you, that's for sure. But it was a
Speaker 2: pretty good day nonetheless, even though you're still single today, right, Yeah.
Speaker 7: I still think as as my friend Ron would say,
Speaker 7: mission accomplished.
Speaker 2: Well, I hope you met a lot of nice people.
Speaker 7: I can't. Well, yeah I did. I mean, considering how
Speaker 7: busy it was, it was kind of.
Speaker 2: You know, it was busy, trust me. I know I
Speaker 2: was there for two seatings and never had anything to eat,
Speaker 2: which is funny. Yeah, characteristic.
Speaker 7: I noticed on my way out, poor Ron. I had
Speaker 7: to go to New Hampshire. That's when all the old
Speaker 7: radis were like, hi, Gwinn, I heed you on the radio,
Speaker 7: and I'm like, well, I'm not trying to be rude,
Speaker 7: but my driver has to leave now.
Speaker 2: I said.
Speaker 7: It's like, I'm trying to not be rude to him,
Speaker 7: but not hold him up.
Speaker 2: That was kind of you have to balance a lot
Speaker 2: of interest here.
Speaker 7: I had to jug here was.
Speaker 2: A celebrity of sorts, and uh, there were people who
Speaker 2: were asking for you and people who saw you out
Speaker 2: and I'm glad that you enjoyed the day, and I'm
Speaker 2: sure they enjoyed meeting you as well. We will we'll
Speaker 2: do something again, Okay. But that was one that I
Speaker 2: thought was it was a huge success.
Speaker 7: And there was. But well, very quickly I was calling
Speaker 7: on the Karen Reid thing. I think she should be
Speaker 7: indicted from antlatter. I think she killed him by accident,
Speaker 7: not murder her. That's what I told Rob. I just
Speaker 7: there was boozing. I mean, drinking and driving, as you know,
Speaker 7: don't mix, especially when they're selling the ground. And I
Speaker 7: agree with you, you're not supposed to if a CoP's
Speaker 7: die and on the you're not supposed to just say,
Speaker 7: oh well, it's not my problem.
Speaker 2: No, I know. But I also think that the human
Speaker 2: instincts should have kicked in, right, I agree with which,
Speaker 2: which which tends to make me think that I'm not
Speaker 2: sure he get into the house of mad. My friend
Speaker 2: Loler in San Diego is convinced of it, and I'm
Speaker 2: keep being an open mind. I also want to make
Speaker 2: sure that I listened to what the evidence is in
Speaker 2: front of the jurist. That's right, And because they are
Speaker 2: juries tend to take their responsibilities very seriously. So let's
Speaker 2: let's see what gets in. I thought that the prosecution
Speaker 2: has had a couple of good days. And now you
Speaker 2: would expect that because the prosecution is the one that's
Speaker 2: uh uh you know, that's calling the witnesses and leading
Speaker 2: the testimony. But I thought that today it was pretty uh,
Speaker 2: pretty interesting. We'll see, we'll see what happened. In my
Speaker 2: final comment, go.
Speaker 7: Ahead, yeah, you know what, I hope you do some
Speaker 7: Friday in that at eleven take a survey, do you right?
Speaker 7: Which should we keep jury system who it is or
Speaker 7: have paid professional judges, which I would prefer. I wanted
Speaker 7: to do away with cherry of your peers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think jury of your peers is pretty much
Speaker 2: in the Constitution, and I.
Speaker 7: Think, wow, i'd like to see I think it's outmoded.
Speaker 7: But that's just me.
Speaker 2: Well, it may be, there may be some things that
Speaker 2: are out motive. The Constitution can be amended, but it
Speaker 2: takes uh, it takes a couple of votes in Congress
Speaker 2: and three quarters of the states.
Speaker 7: And our Constitutional Convention.
Speaker 2: Uh that's I think you don't hold your breath on
Speaker 2: that one, glad. Okay, trust me, Okay, I know There
Speaker 2: are a lot of people who who talk about it,
Speaker 2: but it's that's even you know why.
Speaker 7: I just old j Simpsons the ver, you know, the joke.
Speaker 7: Everybody knows he's guilty except Alan Dershowitz. Remember that was
Speaker 7: a joke back in October benty five.
Speaker 2: I understand that, but again, that's I'm an infallible Look,
Speaker 2: you know, it is not an infallible process. It may
Speaker 2: be the second worst legal process of any nation in
Speaker 2: the world. Uh, and all the others are the first worst.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know I've heard that.
Speaker 2: All right, thanks, I gotta run, Thank you much, Thank you,
Speaker 2: talk to you soon. Good night. Coming right back on
Speaker 2: Night's Side, we got Bill, Jimmy and Tim. I got
Speaker 2: a little room if you want to try six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty. We've done three hours in Karen Reid, and
Speaker 2: I'm more than happy that we have. We can put
Speaker 2: our Karen weed Read materials away until until the next
Speaker 2: significant witness comes on and we'll well, we'll follow it
Speaker 2: for you during the day and I want you to
Speaker 2: be able to be prepared weird at night to uh
Speaker 2: to take it up back on night Side right after.
Speaker 1: This Night Side with Dan Ray I'm telling you Boston's
Speaker 1: news radio.
Speaker 2: Back we go. Let's get him everybody in. Next up
Speaker 2: is Jimmy in South Boston. Jim wasn't there before, but
Speaker 2: I hope he's here now. Jimmy garright ahead.
Speaker 9: I am here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we lost it before. What's on your mind tonight?
Speaker 2: Give give us your take on the Karen Read case.
Speaker 7: Jim My take is.
Speaker 9: I you know, you talk about the evidence, and you
Speaker 9: talk about the experts, and I honestly am just baffled
Speaker 9: by the fact that I've never seen if you're supposed
Speaker 9: to go for the truth, why is it that the
Speaker 9: prosecution is working so hard to get rid of experts?
Speaker 9: I don't get it.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 2: First first, well, I'll give you an answer to that. Okay, First, first,
Speaker 2: first of all, there are a lot of experts out
Speaker 2: there who are either prosecution experts or defense experts. And
Speaker 2: you know, if you're a prosecutor, your case is to
Speaker 2: represent the people. It's the people versus the defendant. And
Speaker 2: if you're taking the case, you better well be prepared
Speaker 2: to believe that the case should result in a conviction.
Speaker 2: I mean, you do not take a case as a
Speaker 2: prosecutor from an ethical point of view and say, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm really not sure, but let's try to convict this person.
Speaker 2: That's not what it's all about.
Speaker 9: That's my point exactly. Is it seems to me that
Speaker 9: they're not taking it from an ethical point of view. Fine, well,
Speaker 9: it sounds.
Speaker 2: To me like you're convinced of her innocence. Do you
Speaker 2: do you leave open the possibility that that you could
Speaker 2: be wrong in this case?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 9: Yes, But as I watched the evidence, in the amount
Speaker 9: of evidence that shouldn't even be allowed in the courtroom,
Speaker 9: when they when they come out with an evidence bag
Speaker 9: that says, by the way, I follow this by default,
Speaker 9: my wife is completely absorbed in it.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine, that's fine.
Speaker 9: It's when they bring an evidence bag that says sweatshirt
Speaker 9: on it and there's three different pairs of types of
Speaker 9: clothing within that bag, or they bring out a bag
Speaker 9: that says two pieces of clear glass in two pieces
Speaker 9: of clear glass, and four pieces of red glass come
Speaker 9: out of that bag, there's a serious problem.
Speaker 2: Well, again, I have not watched it as closely as
Speaker 2: your wife. I have confidence, and I certainly have confidence
Speaker 2: in an attorney's Yannetti and Jackson, they're going to do
Speaker 2: their dondas to make sure she is not convicted. I
Speaker 2: also know the prosecutor a little bit. I'm not close
Speaker 2: friends with any of them, but I think that they
Speaker 2: are legitimate lawyers, and I think that they believe in
Speaker 2: the case they're putting in. Simple as that, Okay.
Speaker 9: I understand that. I just so I try and just
Speaker 9: follow the evidence, I guess.
Speaker 2: And let's continue. We'll continue to follow the evidence. Jim,
Speaker 2: I got three more I got to get in here,
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna let you run for now. But I
Speaker 2: appreciate your call, and I appreciate your perspective. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Good night. Let me go to Bill in New York. Bill,
Speaker 2: you were next time Nightsiger.
Speaker 7: Right ahead, Bill, Hey, Dan, can you hear me?
Speaker 2: Hey perfectly? I assume you're following this case in New York.
Speaker 5: Too, Yes, I uh previous.
Speaker 10: He's from Massachusetts, moved up here a couple of years ago,
Speaker 10: and when I moved up here, that just happened, and
Speaker 10: I was like, Wow, that's really crazy. But I want
Speaker 10: to kind of debunk your theory on what the police
Speaker 10: would they really he just put him out in the yard.
Speaker 2: Give it you give it your best shot.
Speaker 10: Go ahead, all right, Well, I think what happened is, uh,
Speaker 10: he went inside the house, an altercation ensued, and they said, hey,
Speaker 10: you know what, he'll uh, we'll throw him outside. We
Speaker 10: beat the the bag out of him. We'll throw him outside,
Speaker 10: he'll find his way home and then uh, well we'll
Speaker 10: take care of it tomorrow. And well tomorrow comes and
Speaker 10: there's a dead guy in the yard.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, that's fine, that's that's possible. I guess, well,
Speaker 2: I guess it's possible. How do you explain the phone
Speaker 2: that the temperature of the phone, the phone not moving
Speaker 2: forensically in staying. Do you think he lost his phone
Speaker 2: on the front lawn when he went in the house.
Speaker 10: May have, may have, but he could have gotten he
Speaker 10: could have gotten the bag beat out of him as
Speaker 10: soon as he in the house and then.
Speaker 2: Along right, I can't Yeah, that's a legitimate theory. All right, Bill,
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. I got two more I gotta get to.
Speaker 2: But you said it well, and you said it quickly
Speaker 2: and makes me think, which is what the show is
Speaker 2: all about. Thank you man taught to you.
Speaker 7: Thank you Dan.
Speaker 10: I appreciate you.
Speaker 2: What what's we're in New York? Ye? Up? There Rochester, Syracuse.
Speaker 2: You where you.
Speaker 10: Located, Watertown right outside of for Drum.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know that area very well. Thanks, talk
Speaker 2: to you soon. Good night. Let me go next to
Speaker 2: Tim and Wilbert. Tim, welcome back. Great to see you yesterday.
Speaker 5: It was great to see you. I don't know what's
Speaker 5: gonna happen. I've followed this all along life and just stopped.
Speaker 5: I've paid attention to the news. I think he's going
Speaker 5: to do a little time.
Speaker 2: So you think some former fashion is going to come
Speaker 2: back with a guilty.
Speaker 5: Yes, I think he's going to do some time. Not
Speaker 5: how much, I don't know, but anyhow, Uh.
Speaker 2: That'll depend what what what the jury, if the jury
Speaker 2: comes back with the conviction, and on what what count.
Speaker 2: The more serious murder too, is gonna cause great, you know,
Speaker 2: gonna penalize her more. But let's see, let's just see
Speaker 2: how it goes let's follow the cases it goes along.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to focus on what happens on a day
Speaker 2: to day basis, and when I see a day in
Speaker 2: which I think there's some when I see a day
Speaker 2: in which I see some excalplatory evidence, we'll talk about
Speaker 2: that as well.
Speaker 5: But I hope she don't. Also, right, when I was
Speaker 5: saw you yesterday, the lady I was with Donna, she
Speaker 5: took him to I'll pitch you excellent. Anyhow, you look
Speaker 5: like a million bucks. You brought it over today and
Speaker 5: he told me to thank you. You look like a
Speaker 5: million You on me a side by side and she
Speaker 5: hid up.
Speaker 2: Sure we both looked like a million I'm sure we
Speaker 2: both look like a million bucks.
Speaker 5: Tim okay, and also Tommy, Tommy Romeo. Yeah, the guy
Speaker 5: you talked to.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that'd be great. You say hi to him. Tim
Speaker 2: put me in the phone, and the buddy of his Tim,
Speaker 2: I appreciate. I got a run. I gotta get one
Speaker 2: more in Okay, Thanks Pal, I'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 2: Let me go to Rick and Duver. Rick, we got
Speaker 2: about a minute for you. You have called late, but
Speaker 2: I'll give you what I got.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, all right, Dan, just real quick. A person
Speaker 4: supposed to be viol guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Correct,
Speaker 4: She's already had one trial. It seems to me if
Speaker 4: she wasn't convicted in the first trial, why are they
Speaker 4: getting the sucond bite at the apple.
Speaker 2: Because the jury came back with no. The jury did
Speaker 2: never returned to verdict. So was. The jury is obligated
Speaker 2: to come back either as guilty or not guilty. They
Speaker 2: don't go back saying innocent. It's either guilty or not guilty.
Speaker 2: And they were unable. I know there was some confusion,
Speaker 2: but there was no verdict returned on any of the
Speaker 2: three counts. Simple as that.
Speaker 4: Trials. She wasn't found guilty or not guilty. That means
Speaker 4: she wasn't found guilty.
Speaker 2: But the jury, the jury, the jury is obligated. The
Speaker 2: jury cannot end as a hung jury. They can end
Speaker 2: as a hung jury. That it's up the prosecution whether
Speaker 2: they decide to retry the case. That's just the way
Speaker 2: the system works. Rick, I got a run. I'm flat
Speaker 2: out of time. I wish she called earlier. Interesting call.
Speaker 2: Have a great night, all right. I want to thank
Speaker 2: everyone who was with us in Westwood yesterday. I want
Speaker 2: to thank Rob Marita who showed up. She was the
Speaker 2: hit of the party. I want to thank her for
Speaker 2: her work today. And I'll remind you was always all dogs,
Speaker 2: all cats, all pets go to heaven. That's my pal
Speaker 2: Charlie Rayes, who passed fifteen years ago in February. That's
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Speaker 2: you love them. I do believe you'll see them again.
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