WEBVTT 1 00:00:12.960 --> 00:00:16.879 Well, they say it's Halloween or October thirty one, twenty 2 00:00:16.960 --> 00:00:19.800 twenty five. Allegedly, according to that thing we call a calendar, 3 00:00:20.280 --> 00:00:22.839 this show is live. Yeah, we went to air ten 4 00:00:22.879 --> 00:00:25.280 minutes late, but don't worry, we'll run over in the 5 00:00:25.320 --> 00:00:27.760 ten o'clock hour. And that's the way this is going 6 00:00:27.839 --> 00:00:30.719 to go on a Friday night. So if you're hearing 7 00:00:30.800 --> 00:00:33.759 us at let's look at the clock carefully. Eleven minutes 8 00:00:33.799 --> 00:00:37.920 after the hour of eight pm Eastern, we are live. Okay. 9 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:40.759 Otherwise you're listening to a podcast and you can't call 10 00:00:40.799 --> 00:00:44.240 into a podcast that was already recorded. I've had to 11 00:00:44.280 --> 00:00:47.119 explain that more than once. Don't feel dumb in case 12 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:51.039 it just hits you. Anyway, it is what it is Friday, 13 00:00:51.200 --> 00:00:54.039 and you can join us three one nine five two 14 00:00:54.079 --> 00:00:57.280 seven five zero one six. That's the number to call. 15 00:00:57.759 --> 00:00:59.719 That's where it's at if you want to join in 16 00:00:59.759 --> 00:01:02.880 on the and there you go. Now. I was supposed 17 00:01:02.880 --> 00:01:06.719 to do a live show earlier today, but I had 18 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:11.879 to reschedule because you know, hurting cats is difficult, and 19 00:01:12.079 --> 00:01:15.319 hurting people that are supposed to be JFK presenters at 20 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:19.480 the Lancer conference and everything is apparently worse than hurting cats. 21 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:23.680 So you know, just just having to make arrangements. Hopefully 22 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:26.519 I can get these five or six people together again. 23 00:01:27.159 --> 00:01:30.319 And you know, again what am I saying again? Hopefully 24 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:33.560 I can get these five or six people together during 25 00:01:33.599 --> 00:01:36.840 a couple hours span next Friday, because that's what I'm 26 00:01:36.840 --> 00:01:39.799 gonna do, all right. So next Friday, on the seventh, 27 00:01:39.840 --> 00:01:43.239 we will do the live JFK special thing to give 28 00:01:43.280 --> 00:01:47.280 you a preview for the Lancer Conference coming up in November, 29 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:50.200 which you know starts tomorrow. Of course, Hey, don't forget. 30 00:01:50.200 --> 00:01:52.480 You got to reset your clocks too, in case the 31 00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:54.799 computers don't do it all for you or you got 32 00:01:54.799 --> 00:02:00.879 some old appliances. Clocks are getting reset, I think on Sunday, Yeah, 33 00:02:00.920 --> 00:02:04.200 the second, right, So there you go, November second, according 34 00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:06.159 to your calendar, you got to reset your clocks. But 35 00:02:06.239 --> 00:02:09.439 until then, November twenty first to the twenty third, I 36 00:02:09.479 --> 00:02:13.159 will be in Dallas, Texas allegedly because somebody's got to 37 00:02:13.199 --> 00:02:15.280 come and pick me up and drive me there. And 38 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:18.360 I'm supposed to be the MC at the Lancer Conference. 39 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:20.639 And I was going to do a preview show earlier today, 40 00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:25.000 but again hurting cats. So next week on the seventh, 41 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:27.479 we'll give you that preview with some special guests and 42 00:02:27.560 --> 00:02:30.400 presenters and they'll each come in for their own little 43 00:02:30.439 --> 00:02:33.159 segment and give you an idea of what's going on there. 44 00:02:33.479 --> 00:02:37.360 What you can sign up for at Assassination Conference dot com. 45 00:02:37.759 --> 00:02:40.680 Use the code Ohelly ten and you get ten percent off, 46 00:02:41.199 --> 00:02:45.120 whether you're going in person or virtually. Okay, now I 47 00:02:45.159 --> 00:02:46.639 got all that out of the way, and I didn't 48 00:02:46.639 --> 00:02:51.439 even intend to start with that, but let's start with this. Unfortunately, 49 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:54.759 I have to report to you, guys, if you're long 50 00:02:54.759 --> 00:02:58.840 listeners of this show, especially the Friday night call in show, 51 00:02:59.319 --> 00:03:02.759 we've had. We've had some regulars and semi regulars over 52 00:03:02.759 --> 00:03:06.120 the years, and people have joined us and gone away, 53 00:03:06.800 --> 00:03:11.759 and a couple of people have departed. One of them 54 00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:13.800 was a guy that we used to call van Archy, 55 00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:16.960 and that's the name he chose for himself. And he 56 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:20.080 even made up drinking cups, you know, hot and cold 57 00:03:20.159 --> 00:03:24.400 mugs and T shirts that said van Arkey. His name 58 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:28.879 was Vance and his actual last name was Johnson. I 59 00:03:29.080 --> 00:03:33.000 can't make it up. And he was what I thought 60 00:03:33.039 --> 00:03:35.879 of as my resident cowboy over here, because that's kind 61 00:03:35.879 --> 00:03:38.400 of what he did. For a living, working on ranches 62 00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:41.439 with horses and this kind of thing. And in case 63 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:44.159 you got a vague memory and you're saying who was Vance, 64 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:46.199 he was the guy that used to talk on here 65 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:49.759 a lot because he was at the bar already and 66 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:51.719 he would be trying to get his connection straight at 67 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:55.479 the bar, and sometimes he'd be there playing poker. Matter 68 00:03:55.520 --> 00:04:00.639 of fact, we almost are organized, almost organized little poker 69 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:04.120 online thing we were gonna do collectively, like the Ocelli 70 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:06.919 Effect Poker Club, and we were all going to get 71 00:04:06.919 --> 00:04:10.680 together in an online forum and play poker online. A 72 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:13.599 lot of that kind of inspired by Vance, who wanted 73 00:04:13.639 --> 00:04:16.319 to play and you know, and I'm a guy who 74 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:19.720 likes playing cards and I enjoy poker. I'm no expert 75 00:04:19.720 --> 00:04:21.879 at it or anything, but I thought it would be 76 00:04:21.879 --> 00:04:24.519 a great community fun thing if we had a special little, 77 00:04:25.040 --> 00:04:27.839 you know, Ocelli effect group of people that did it 78 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:31.319 network sort of, you know, that just got together and 79 00:04:31.319 --> 00:04:36.160 played cards online. But that never came to be. And unfortunately, 80 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:39.279 our friend Lance a few weeks ago, which we all 81 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:43.800 knew he was ill, you know, he went home. So honestly, 82 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:47.360 I I was a little a little more upset about 83 00:04:47.399 --> 00:04:49.079 it than I thought I would be, and I showed 84 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:51.439 up on the Saturday Night Anarchy show. I played that 85 00:04:51.800 --> 00:04:54.439 in replays a little bit, the portion I showed up 86 00:04:54.439 --> 00:04:57.959 for over there on the twenty four to seven network here, 87 00:04:58.839 --> 00:05:01.439 and I say good buy to my brother, because he 88 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:04.800 was a guy who I felt a kinship to and 89 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:07.759 I was more than happy to kind of introduce him 90 00:05:07.759 --> 00:05:11.240 into the world to talking on these podcasts and simulcasts 91 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:14.160 and whatnot. He wound up going over to the New 92 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:18.000 Prisoners thing, that Saturday Night Anarchy show they do on Rumble, 93 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:21.240 and he was a resident there quite a bit in 94 00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:26.560 between being pretty pretty damn sick, and I would imagine 95 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:31.439 that it's the cancer that got him. And what can 96 00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:35.639 I say, It's sad when somebody that you know was 97 00:05:35.720 --> 00:05:39.360 out there using his brain and engaging with people and 98 00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:43.000 even trying to make a difference there at tables and 99 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:47.360 at the bar, whether he was playing cards or he 100 00:05:47.399 --> 00:05:51.079 was just holding court and having conversations, Which is funny 101 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:53.199 because he made merch for himself based on the fact 102 00:05:53.240 --> 00:05:55.439 that he just kind of locally and in person had 103 00:05:55.480 --> 00:05:58.759 conversations with people and kind of became known in the 104 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:00.680 area as the guy was going to talk your head off, 105 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:04.360 but you'd learn something right. And he definitely had a 106 00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:08.040 differing point of view from almost all of us. And 107 00:06:08.079 --> 00:06:13.519 he was definitely about the healthy concept of anarchy, and 108 00:06:13.680 --> 00:06:15.480 you know, again, it's one of those things that rubs 109 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:18.920 people the wrong way, but Vance was always a gentleman 110 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:22.480 about it and had a sense of humor and was 111 00:06:22.480 --> 00:06:25.040 a good guy. And even though he wasn't recently on 112 00:06:25.079 --> 00:06:28.959 the show, I will miss him, and those of you 113 00:06:29.040 --> 00:06:32.720 who are listening back then will also miss him. At 114 00:06:32.759 --> 00:06:35.480 this point, there will be a ben like not a 115 00:06:35.480 --> 00:06:37.680 benefit excuse me, a tribute show that's going to go 116 00:06:37.720 --> 00:06:40.839 on on that other network, and I plan on simulcasting 117 00:06:40.879 --> 00:06:43.360 it when that happens. I think they're going to do 118 00:06:43.439 --> 00:06:48.079 it the Saturday after Thanksgiving. So anyway, VPTE, I've ran 119 00:06:48.160 --> 00:06:50.519 my mouth a bit, but for good causes, I think, 120 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:54.279 so wanted to get those things out. And how has 121 00:06:54.319 --> 00:06:56.279 your week been? Before we get to the callers, I 122 00:06:56.319 --> 00:06:58.759 know we had one waiting and I haven't looked at 123 00:06:58.759 --> 00:07:00.680 it since because I was constant trading on what I 124 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:03.680 was saying. But you know, how's your week been? As 125 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:06.480 I shut down the doggies barking in the background so 126 00:07:06.519 --> 00:07:07.160 they can hear you. 127 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:12.199 It's been a busy week trying to get a lot 128 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:15.240 done outside. A few people called me up and had 129 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:17.399 some last minute stuff they wanted done in their yards 130 00:07:17.439 --> 00:07:20.639 before it started getting cold. And it's been kind of 131 00:07:20.720 --> 00:07:24.560 rough here the past four days. Today second day of sunshine. 132 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:27.560 Before that, we had a week of just cold, rainy, 133 00:07:27.720 --> 00:07:33.079 drizzly weather, miserable. And after seen Monday, I was able 134 00:07:33.120 --> 00:07:33.959 to get some stuff done. 135 00:07:33.959 --> 00:07:36.000 The next two days I was going stir crazy not 136 00:07:36.040 --> 00:07:37.319 being able to get outside. 137 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:42.399 We're getting ready to kick off some reconstruction here, getting 138 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:44.279 ready to run power out to the garage. 139 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:47.399 Shuck up power out there at my shop. It's been busy. 140 00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:49.600 I've had contractors in and out all week giving me 141 00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:51.839 prices on stuff. 142 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:54.480 And I'll tell you, it ain't getting any cheaper out there, 143 00:07:54.639 --> 00:07:55.759 no matter what you want to get. 144 00:07:55.600 --> 00:07:58.240 Done, No whether you want to eat a meal or 145 00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:00.839 you want to actually get a job done, thing is cheaper, 146 00:08:00.920 --> 00:08:01.800 that's for damn sure. 147 00:08:02.319 --> 00:08:02.560 Uh. 148 00:08:02.600 --> 00:08:04.920 You might not want to say reconstruction too loud in 149 00:08:04.959 --> 00:08:09.160 North Carolina over there, they're having some heated arguments in 150 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:13.240 your home state lately politically, I'm seeing some weird stuff online. 151 00:08:14.279 --> 00:08:15.800 I don't know if you want to comment on it 152 00:08:15.879 --> 00:08:18.839 or if you're paying attention to any of it. But yeah, 153 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:22.120 there's some odd things happening in North Carolina. Looks like 154 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:24.600 to me, I mean, but then again, you know, at 155 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:27.800 a distance in the way the digital media warps the news. 156 00:08:27.800 --> 00:08:30.800 Who knows, is there like an odd sort of thing 157 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:35.000 going on politically across the state or am I seeing exaggerations? 158 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:38.519 I don't know. 159 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:41.200 A few weeks, I don't know what a month or 160 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:45.039 so ago when they started talking about in California redistricting. 161 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:50.120 They've passed this proposition to something or trying to get 162 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:55.039 it past this election for redistricting out in California to 163 00:08:55.200 --> 00:08:59.879 fight the Maga Republicans from trying to keep a hold 164 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:00.759 on Congress. 165 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:03.360 And they did the same thing here in this state. 166 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:08.480 They redistrict one district, which. 167 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:12.759 Doesn't really make any sense because it's you know, it's 168 00:09:12.799 --> 00:09:15.480 pretty much a it's a toss up in this state 169 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:16.799 depending on who's running. 170 00:09:17.080 --> 00:09:19.360 It can go Democrat, it can go Republican. 171 00:09:19.559 --> 00:09:23.240 It's we're really a purple state, roughly fifty to fifty. 172 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:27.720 But they put all their emphasis into redistricting one district 173 00:09:27.759 --> 00:09:30.240 when they haven't even passed a budget yet they do 174 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:34.320 this every year. They wait, they pass a budget, they 175 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:37.679 don't get the budget and budget passed by the end 176 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:40.120 of the physical year, so then they go into the 177 00:09:40.159 --> 00:09:43.279 next year and eventually they come up with something. Then 178 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:45.960 they have to back pay everybody for the raises that 179 00:09:46.039 --> 00:09:50.600 took offense took effect while they were still arguing stuff out. 180 00:09:50.679 --> 00:09:52.399 It's just a big cluster. 181 00:09:52.559 --> 00:09:56.240 And it comes from this Republican legislature that we have 182 00:09:56.360 --> 00:10:00.399 in place that you know, their big concern is money 183 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:03.679 for the party, money for the party, money for the party. 184 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:07.000 Then we'll get around to everything else. Yeah, it's just ridiculous. 185 00:10:07.480 --> 00:10:11.120 So welcome to American politics in twenty twenty five basically. 186 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:15.639 But North Carolina, when I was there, I observed it 187 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:18.440 it was already pretty rough. And you know, all this 188 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:21.639 stuff they say is like newly divided. Seems like North 189 00:10:21.679 --> 00:10:23.960 Carolina was ahead of the trend. I don't know if 190 00:10:23.960 --> 00:10:25.759 I felt like I was in a purple state where 191 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:27.840 I lived, but I got to tell you it didn't 192 00:10:27.879 --> 00:10:31.440 seem that way. But anyway, Hey, look the reality on 193 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:33.399 the ground and what you might see in your own 194 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:36.279 world might differ. I got to say something else before 195 00:10:36.320 --> 00:10:39.240 we go to the caller, though that as I look 196 00:10:39.320 --> 00:10:43.159 over this whole you know online battle people are havling over, 197 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:45.679 you know, they're trying to like clap back at each 198 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:49.559 other online about who's right and who's wrong over food stamps. 199 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:54.320 You know, I gotta say something here. This is beyond stupidity. 200 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:59.919 Neither side sees exactly how disastrous this can be, give 201 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:02.519 in the way things are set up, and given our 202 00:11:02.559 --> 00:11:06.840 current economic circumstances, we could see a nasty tipping point 203 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:09.519 that none of these you know pundits, none of these 204 00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:12.919 talking heads, none of these politicians, gives a damn about. 205 00:11:12.960 --> 00:11:15.320 And believe it or not, that government shut down in 206 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:17.879 DC that most of us you know, or not most 207 00:11:17.879 --> 00:11:19.960 of us, but a lot of people that I know anyway, 208 00:11:20.480 --> 00:11:23.600 who are friendly to me, still think doesn't really matter. 209 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:27.559 It's gonna matter big, and it's gonna matter big in 210 00:11:27.600 --> 00:11:29.720 a lot of ways. I think, who knows, Maybe we'll 211 00:11:29.759 --> 00:11:32.600 talk about that tonight. But it's up to the callers. 212 00:11:32.679 --> 00:11:34.120 And so I want to go to the first call 213 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:36.399 who has been holding I think before we went to 214 00:11:36.480 --> 00:11:40.039 air uh, So let's get to him first, and anybody 215 00:11:40.039 --> 00:11:42.279 else who wants to join us at three one nine 216 00:11:42.320 --> 00:11:45.600 five two seven five zero one six. If you're hearing 217 00:11:45.679 --> 00:11:48.360 us live, you can join us three one nine five 218 00:11:48.440 --> 00:11:50.759 two seven five zero one six. And by the way, 219 00:11:51.159 --> 00:11:54.720 that's about twenty two minutes after eight pm Eastern here 220 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:57.919 in what we used to call America. Just for the record, 221 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:02.200 of course, if you're hearing the podcast, well you won't 222 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:06.440 be able to call in. It's just that simple. Okay. Anyways, 223 00:12:06.879 --> 00:12:08.919 let's uh, let's get to the first caller, and I 224 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:10.919 think he'll probably introduce himself. 225 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:19.879 Well, I had this great Halloween intro all set up. 226 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:23.679 I was going to come in and spent Dracula and 227 00:12:23.840 --> 00:12:26.279 say that spent Ken has entered the building to spent 228 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:29.120 once here and all that. But man, I had no 229 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:33.679 idea that Vance was gone and he was sick. He 230 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:37.559 was awesome, and uh, I you know, I was always 231 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:40.519 hoping I could, you know, link back up with him 232 00:12:40.519 --> 00:12:41.879 because I hadn't talked to him in a few years 233 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:44.960 since we did that Wednesday show, the call in, and 234 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:47.240 it was kind of like the Anarchy Show then, right, 235 00:12:47.279 --> 00:12:47.720 I mean. 236 00:12:47.600 --> 00:12:50.360 We had him and he was always on, and we 237 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:51.360 had what. 238 00:12:51.919 --> 00:12:54.600 Was regular Joe was on air, and sometimes I think 239 00:12:54.639 --> 00:12:59.639 and uh was it the Nature Boy and you know 240 00:12:59.759 --> 00:13:02.440 this the big Anarchy show going on, and it was great. 241 00:13:02.720 --> 00:13:05.879 One of those epics shows we did was because Vance 242 00:13:06.600 --> 00:13:15.159 had Nature Boy read uh, you know, basically taking the 243 00:13:15.639 --> 00:13:18.200 whole showed. You know, there's just so much and he 244 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:21.600 was so uh. He he had such good ideas and stuff. 245 00:13:21.639 --> 00:13:26.360 He was always there's optimistic, and I swear I don't 246 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:28.799 I didn't know him as well as you do, Chuck. 247 00:13:29.000 --> 00:13:31.720 You know, in the long run, you like you kept 248 00:13:31.799 --> 00:13:33.600 up with him. I really kind of wish now I 249 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:35.879 would have gone over checked out those other podcasts and 250 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:39.279 the Anarchy guys and stuff. But you know, I kind 251 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:41.320 of just stick with you when I have time. And 252 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:44.919 that's that's it with with podcasting. I mean a year 253 00:13:44.919 --> 00:13:47.200 ago I did some uh you know, for about a 254 00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:51.039 half a year with Lee Peer doing that that Bottom 255 00:13:51.080 --> 00:13:54.960 of the Feed show. But I'm just not consistent doing shows, 256 00:13:55.159 --> 00:13:57.919 and you know, sometimes I get overwhelmed and I don't 257 00:13:57.960 --> 00:13:59.759 want to you know, you know what I'm saying. So 258 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:02.039 I just never kept up with him. I was always 259 00:14:02.039 --> 00:14:04.039 meaning to get back to him, and he was a 260 00:14:04.080 --> 00:14:07.000 good dude. As far as agreeing with him, I don't 261 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:09.879 think there's anything that we ever disagreed on. I mean, 262 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:12.159 maybe you could find like us arguing about you know, 263 00:14:12.240 --> 00:14:15.320 it's the softer toilet paper, charmon or the leading brand 264 00:14:15.679 --> 00:14:18.960 that might be about it. He was spot on. We 265 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:22.480 were like when it came down to talking about issues 266 00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:27.080 and things everything, we were tight. And he's I missed him. 267 00:14:27.159 --> 00:14:28.320 I miss him. I miss him. 268 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:31.799 Yeah, and absolutely look sorry, go. 269 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:37.840 Ahead, no, no, I just like just saying, yeah, I mean, 270 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:41.039 rest in power. You know, he's he's gonna be missed. 271 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:44.440 I mean, we lost a good guy. The world is 272 00:14:44.799 --> 00:14:46.799 not as good as place as it was when he 273 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:47.240 was here. 274 00:14:47.480 --> 00:14:49.919 You know what's funny, that's almost exactly what I said 275 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:54.360 on the Saturday Night Anarchy show last week when you 276 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:56.720 know when I actually I first got the news last week, 277 00:14:57.000 --> 00:15:00.480 like right after this show, and I didn't know about it, 278 00:15:00.759 --> 00:15:02.759 and I was kind of like, you know, oh wow, 279 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:04.559 you know, because it took a couple of weeks to 280 00:15:04.600 --> 00:15:06.720 reach us what happened, because he was sick and not 281 00:15:06.840 --> 00:15:09.080 around for a bit, you know, and we just all 282 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:14.559 assumed he'd bounce back and come back around. And but 283 00:15:14.559 --> 00:15:16.639 but all those guys you just mentioned, look, nature boy's 284 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:20.639 doing his own show. Regular Joe has, you know. 285 00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:21.600 Doing Trips. 286 00:15:21.960 --> 00:15:24.000 Captain Trips is with us. We haven't heard from Captain 287 00:15:24.039 --> 00:15:27.720 Trips in a bit. He's doing a personal thing. Regular 288 00:15:27.799 --> 00:15:30.360 Joe is like out in the world and doing his 289 00:15:30.399 --> 00:15:34.600 band again because he split up from the wife, and 290 00:15:35.519 --> 00:15:38.399 like he's doing a lot better as far as being 291 00:15:38.399 --> 00:15:41.440 happy and doing his own thing. And actually I wish 292 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:43.000 I could get him on just to if he had 293 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:46.480 time to come on and talk about it, because he's 294 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:49.200 had a great old time. He's reunited his old band 295 00:15:49.240 --> 00:15:52.360 and they're actually playing gigs and he's having a good 296 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:55.519 time with that. Nature Boy does his own thing, got 297 00:15:55.519 --> 00:15:58.720 his Third Rail show and something else I think another 298 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:03.039 podcast he does. And you know, look, these guys have 299 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:05.399 gone on to do other things, some of them, Advance 300 00:16:05.879 --> 00:16:08.080 had gone over there to do that with with some 301 00:16:08.159 --> 00:16:11.759 other guys you know, who were going to focus on 302 00:16:12.039 --> 00:16:14.320 more of the things he wanted to talk about. And 303 00:16:14.679 --> 00:16:17.639 he was going into deep dives and like academic papers 304 00:16:17.679 --> 00:16:22.240 even on different political philosophies that were you know, introduced 305 00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:25.639 the different battles with the unions and stuff like that 306 00:16:25.720 --> 00:16:28.320 in the early part of the twentieth century, and was 307 00:16:28.360 --> 00:16:32.559 actually going for some highly educational material about stuff that happened, 308 00:16:32.559 --> 00:16:35.080 and you know, options that people say they don't have 309 00:16:35.720 --> 00:16:39.720 regarding a whole bunch of different possibilities and how things 310 00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:43.080 could be organized differently, how people could you know, handle 311 00:16:43.120 --> 00:16:46.519 things a bit differently, et cetera. And I'm not saying 312 00:16:46.519 --> 00:16:48.759 that you or I disagree with them. It's just that 313 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:51.360 I got you know, people wanted to debate him and 314 00:16:51.399 --> 00:16:54.200 this and that, and I think a couple of people 315 00:16:54.240 --> 00:16:57.399 did debate him on some of the shows, but it 316 00:16:57.480 --> 00:17:00.559 was always like really polite, you know, and he was 317 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:02.600 like a gentleman about it all the time, even when 318 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:05.759 people yelled at him, you know, because he was just 319 00:17:05.880 --> 00:17:08.119 that kind of guy. He was just completely chill. And 320 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:10.759 like I said, he was like a cattle ranch guy, 321 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:13.359 you know, out there doing that kind of hard work. 322 00:17:15.079 --> 00:17:17.039 And he was a little older than us, you know. 323 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:20.240 But yeah, but he got sick a couple of like 324 00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:24.119 literally like two years ago, and he'd been battling with 325 00:17:24.160 --> 00:17:28.240 that past two years, you know, not making a big 326 00:17:28.279 --> 00:17:30.079 deal out of it, but it was something that you know, 327 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:33.079 people knew if you knew him, and it was just 328 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:36.119 you know, I don't know, man, it's just but I 329 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:39.200 said exactly the same thing you did. Like moments after 330 00:17:39.240 --> 00:17:42.079 hearing about it, I was like, you know what, the 331 00:17:42.119 --> 00:17:44.319 world is not as good a place as it was 332 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:48.000 before I knew this. It's just that simple because he 333 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:49.960 was just you know, he made things just a little 334 00:17:49.960 --> 00:17:53.759 bit better being here. So that sucks, and you know, 335 00:17:53.960 --> 00:17:54.759 and there's. 336 00:17:54.440 --> 00:17:57.519 Like tons of people right now in this world that 337 00:17:57.640 --> 00:18:00.640 if they left the world would be a better you know. 338 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:01.880 Oh yeah, it. 339 00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:03.839 Sucks always when you lose the good ones, you know, 340 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:07.079 and it happens. It happens too often. Yeah, so not 341 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:10.440 enough with the bat, I say, you know, geez right, 342 00:18:10.599 --> 00:18:14.240 so but yeah, no, you know, he was always knowledgeable too. 343 00:18:14.359 --> 00:18:16.920 He's very, very one of the most intelligent people I've 344 00:18:16.920 --> 00:18:17.480 ever talked to. 345 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:19.480 Oh that was the other thing from what I. 346 00:18:19.440 --> 00:18:21.599 Remember, it's been it's been some years now, it's been 347 00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:22.160 a minute, but. 348 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:24.200 Yeah, that was the other thing was he was. 349 00:18:24.279 --> 00:18:25.039 A regular Joe. 350 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:26.599 It was cool to talk to him. 351 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:29.640 Like last month was it when I I was on 352 00:18:29.720 --> 00:18:31.839 and he showed up and it was the first time 353 00:18:31.839 --> 00:18:33.039 we talked a few years. 354 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:35.920 It might have been been like an over the show 355 00:18:36.079 --> 00:18:38.440 might have been like two months ago or ago like 356 00:18:38.480 --> 00:18:41.440 two months ago. I think, yeah, maybe months ago. Maybe 357 00:18:41.480 --> 00:18:43.839 b Pete didn't make it that night or something. I think. 358 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:47.559 Might have been one of those VP was there, Jimmy James, 359 00:18:47.559 --> 00:18:50.440 there's somebody else, that guy from California. Oh, okay, there's 360 00:18:50.640 --> 00:18:53.599 there's there's a few people there. We were all, you know, 361 00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:55.400 bouncing around talking and stuff. 362 00:18:55.839 --> 00:18:58.960 Okay, it's a different night that b P didn't make it. Then, 363 00:18:59.000 --> 00:19:01.200 I'm you know what, I'm these things up because it's 364 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:03.200 all one show to me now, the Friday night show, 365 00:19:03.279 --> 00:19:07.559 you know. And yeah, it's like goes on. 366 00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:12.519 You do so many shows. Yeah, unbelievable and it's amazing 367 00:19:12.599 --> 00:19:13.200 right there, Chuck. 368 00:19:13.359 --> 00:19:16.039 Yeah, and there's still one there's still one show up 369 00:19:16.079 --> 00:19:19.279 on my feed on my podcast feed that that Vance 370 00:19:19.440 --> 00:19:21.559 was still like kind of regular on the show back 371 00:19:21.599 --> 00:19:27.000 in twenty one, and so you know, that's still there. 372 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:29.480 I shared it on Twitter too, just to like be like, hey, 373 00:19:29.519 --> 00:19:32.920 look here's one of the shows where Advance was, you know, 374 00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:37.319 still himself. And you know, look, I don't have too 375 00:19:37.319 --> 00:19:39.400 many I could probably dig some more out of the archive. 376 00:19:39.519 --> 00:19:42.480 I know there's tons of them that he participated in. 377 00:19:43.160 --> 00:19:47.640 But we had so many epic talks on those shows. 378 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:48.319 Right. 379 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:51.319 I mean there were just epic information being out there. 380 00:19:51.359 --> 00:19:54.000 I told Lee them mouth here about this. Yeah, I 381 00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:55.480 mean it's like, yeah, I don't know if we can 382 00:19:55.519 --> 00:19:57.160 go back and look up those shows, but there were 383 00:19:57.200 --> 00:20:01.839 so many great conversations with different people, knowledgeable people on 384 00:20:01.880 --> 00:20:03.960 that show. It's like one of the I told Lee, 385 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:06.039 I think it was one of the best runs I 386 00:20:06.160 --> 00:20:08.960 had with with you know, for a couple of months there, 387 00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:11.559 and we just had these guys coming on and with 388 00:20:11.599 --> 00:20:15.279 all this information and like minded you know, voluntarioists or 389 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:19.119 anarchists or whatever, and just going over history and talking 390 00:20:19.160 --> 00:20:22.039 all different things. You know, that's that's epic. We had 391 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:25.519 some epic shows there and like some of the most 392 00:20:25.559 --> 00:20:27.839 fun at times for me. And I've done all kinds 393 00:20:27.839 --> 00:20:29.920 of crazy stuff like you have. But I you know 394 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:32.359 that that he was a big part of that, you know, 395 00:20:32.400 --> 00:20:35.640 and I miss that. I mean, so you know again, 396 00:20:35.759 --> 00:20:37.680 rest in peace, rest and power, my brother. 397 00:20:37.759 --> 00:20:40.000 We're going to miss you exactly. And you know what 398 00:20:40.119 --> 00:20:42.400 for people that if people are listening to this and 399 00:20:42.519 --> 00:20:44.599 want us to go back to a format where we 400 00:20:44.680 --> 00:20:48.240 have calls, you know, on multiple days, I'm willing to 401 00:20:48.279 --> 00:20:51.039