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<v Speaker 1>KFI. Mister bro Kelly, We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>We're continuing to watch the movement of officers in riot

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<v Speaker 2>gear near downtown LA As. This is the second day

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<v Speaker 2>of what is being dubbed the Day Without Immigrants protests.

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<v Speaker 1>It has also been called a movement.

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<v Speaker 2>Now there hasn't been any violence, but there has been

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<v Speaker 2>an official order to disperse which has been given. So

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<v Speaker 2>we are going to periodically check in on that as

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<v Speaker 2>it gets darker, obviously, and the situation may change, but

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<v Speaker 2>at this point it seems very peaceful, but people have

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<v Speaker 2>not comempletely dispersed, so that's why we will follow it.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's also where I wanted to start tonight, and

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<v Speaker 2>this what it's being called a Day Without Immigrants movement.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't know the history, it takes a page

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<v Speaker 2>out of the book, the literal book of this story

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<v Speaker 2>called A Day of Absence, which was a play written

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<v Speaker 2>by American playwright Douglas Turner Ward. It premiered off Broadway

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen sixty five. So that's the heart of the

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<v Speaker 2>modern civil rights movement, and it was telling the story

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<v Speaker 2>in a satirical fashion, almost like a thought experiment. With

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<v Speaker 2>laughter about what would happen if America woke up in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty five and there were no black people?

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<v Speaker 1>What would people do for childcare? What would they do

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<v Speaker 1>for the crops?

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<v Speaker 2>What would they do for any number of menial tasks

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<v Speaker 2>which were reserved in theory for black people, but they

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<v Speaker 2>were no longer there.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's called a day of absence.

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<v Speaker 2>And this day without immigrants is patterned after that, where

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<v Speaker 2>if all the immigrants stop doing what they were normally

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<v Speaker 2>doing in America, how that might impact America?

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<v Speaker 1>How might that bring America to a halt?

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<v Speaker 2>There are some parallels, and there's some problems there.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what I mean by parallels.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think anyone can reasonably reasonably argue that immigrants,

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<v Speaker 2>be it undocumented or documented, provide a valuable, valuable presence

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<v Speaker 2>and also have an important place in America. We can,

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<v Speaker 2>I should say, we should be able to separate what

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<v Speaker 2>we think about people versus the process of immigration when

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<v Speaker 2>we talk about people. I think we should be very

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<v Speaker 2>very very careful and respectful of how we deal with

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<v Speaker 2>people versus policy. Immigration has long been a controversial subject

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<v Speaker 2>as far as how we should address it. Me personally,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that there is something to be said for

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<v Speaker 2>the rule of law and entering the country legally. But

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<v Speaker 2>also we can't talk we can't talk about this and

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<v Speaker 2>disregard the demagoguery which has gone on for far too long,

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<v Speaker 2>the demonization of the actual people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the first point.

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<v Speaker 2>Secondarily, but still very important, is that although I am

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<v Speaker 2>emotionally sympathetic with what with what happened today, the protests

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<v Speaker 2>which took place today, I am all together of the

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<v Speaker 2>opinion that it's not going to mean anything. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to mean absolutely nothing. And here's why. It's a movement

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<v Speaker 2>with no specific direction. It's a movement which started as

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<v Speaker 2>of yesterday and about three months after the election. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a movement which is predicated on changing federal policy. But

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<v Speaker 2>the election was three months ago, and it's a movement

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<v Speaker 2>without any particular steps mapped out in the future from

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<v Speaker 2>what I can see, because there were protests all over

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<v Speaker 2>southern California yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>There were protests today.

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<v Speaker 2>Dozens of people, I just say hundreds of people were

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<v Speaker 2>waving Mexican flags and some American flags, and they marched

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<v Speaker 2>around downtown LA near West first Street and North Spring Street,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it moved to West Olympic Boulevard in South

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<v Speaker 2>figaroa street, blocking traffic on both sides of the street.

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<v Speaker 2>It moved to the one oh one Freeway, blocking traffic

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<v Speaker 2>on both sides of the freeway. But where do you

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<v Speaker 2>go from there? Not literally as in where do you

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<v Speaker 2>walk from there? But in a policy sense, where do

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<v Speaker 2>you go from there? And I had this same complaint

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<v Speaker 2>with BLM, I had the same complaint with Occupy Wall Street.

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<v Speaker 2>I had this same complaint with just about every march

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<v Speaker 2>we've had in the past twelve thirteen years that I've

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<v Speaker 2>been on KFI. I have been consistent in this regard.

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<v Speaker 2>There's one thing to believe with all your heart that

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<v Speaker 2>you are right. And you may be right, But if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't actually have a coherent strategy which is going

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<v Speaker 2>to make the powers that be not only listen to you,

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<v Speaker 2>but also be more inclined to give you or make

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<v Speaker 2>some concessions for you, then you're just wasting your time.

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<v Speaker 2>And if we talk about immigration, if we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>really have an honest conversation, I find it very ironic

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<v Speaker 2>that we're having this Day Without Immigrants March, when given

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<v Speaker 2>from what I can see from the data that I've

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<v Speaker 2>learned about and researched for the past three months since

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<v Speaker 2>the election that there was an overwhelming increase in the

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<v Speaker 2>support of the Hispanic community and Latino community for Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>That not everyone out in the street today was either

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<v Speaker 2>undocumented or a citizen.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm quite sure there was a mix of both.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do know all those who are Hispanic in

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<v Speaker 2>nature or Latino who may have supported the policies of

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump by voting for him in November, voted for

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<v Speaker 2>this moment because if Donald Trump did anything, he told

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<v Speaker 2>you in advance what he was going to do, he

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<v Speaker 2>said it. He made it clear at every opportunity that

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<v Speaker 2>if elected, these ice raids were coming. He made no

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<v Speaker 2>bones about it. He didn't dither, and we can say

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<v Speaker 2>that Donald Trump is a liar. He didn't lie about this.

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<v Speaker 2>He told you from day one that he was going

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<v Speaker 2>to enact these ice rays and now they have begun.

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<v Speaker 2>And my question is you're protesting now. You should have

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<v Speaker 2>been protesting and had that plan in place back in

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<v Speaker 2>sip Timber or October and making sure that Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>didn't win in November, because it's too late to be mad.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, it's too late to say this can't happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it is happening, and it's going to keep happening,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can keep marching and it's not going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Change the policy.

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<v Speaker 2>And the policy is not something which is specific to

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<v Speaker 2>Mayor Karen Bass here in Los Angeles. It's not something

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<v Speaker 2>that's specific to Governor Gavin Newsom in California.

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<v Speaker 1>These are federal raids. This is a federal policy.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think the people who are marching today

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<v Speaker 2>understood that very important distinction, because if you did, you

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be marching today. You would have been marching four

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<v Speaker 2>months ago and making sure that it never came to this.

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<v Speaker 2>But now here we are.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 3>KFI Am six forty, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to pick it up where I left off

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<v Speaker 2>regarding these protests all over not just Los Angeles but

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<v Speaker 2>southern California over the past two days, and it's been

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<v Speaker 2>called a day without Immigrants, this movement, and for me,

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<v Speaker 2>there are a few steps before you can get to

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<v Speaker 2>an actual movement.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to have a moment, which could be a protest.

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<v Speaker 2>And that moment can generate momentum where you're moving in

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<v Speaker 2>a certain direction and then it can turn into a movement.

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<v Speaker 2>But all those things usually are done in concert with

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<v Speaker 2>one another. You know, it's not stop start, stop start.

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<v Speaker 2>You usually move in a progressive fashion where you get

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<v Speaker 2>more momentum and it actually turns into a movement. But

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<v Speaker 2>all the wordplay aside, I'm not so sure. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty damn sure. I'm pretty damn sure that what

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<v Speaker 2>happened today is not going to translate to anything. Why

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<v Speaker 2>because we're talking about a federal issue regarding immigration, and

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<v Speaker 2>that is something which has to happen in Washington. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're thinking that that this could lead to something somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>along the way, well I'm here to tell you, if

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<v Speaker 2>you've been paying attention, give it. The dynamics of Congress,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Republicans control the House and the Senate, and

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<v Speaker 2>they've made it very clear that they're in alignment.

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<v Speaker 1>With the wishes of Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>There is absolutely zero reason to believe that any type

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<v Speaker 2>of yelling, screaming, marching, or protesting is going to sway

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<v Speaker 2>the Republican controlled House or Senate, much less Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>to change direction regarding their stances on immigration. And I

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<v Speaker 2>I can't, for the life of me understand the people

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<v Speaker 2>who are probably well intentioned. And I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 2>demean or belittle anyone who is out there protesting or

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<v Speaker 2>sincerely concerned about how these ice rays are going to

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<v Speaker 2>impact his or her or their families, not in any way,

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<v Speaker 2>because I suspect people out there were thinking of relatives

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<v Speaker 2>they have in their household. Maybe it's a grandparent, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's a brother, it's a sister, or a parent, or

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<v Speaker 2>even a child who may have come to this country

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<v Speaker 2>in an undocumented fashion. But the problem is that didn't

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<v Speaker 2>happen yesterday. It didn't come to this country yesterday. And Tuala,

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<v Speaker 2>I know you've heard it. I know I've heard it.

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<v Speaker 2>And all the friends I have have said it to

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<v Speaker 2>me who are supporters of Donald Trump on some level,

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<v Speaker 2>they said, well, I don't like the personal antics, but

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<v Speaker 2>I do like his policy.

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<v Speaker 1>Or you know, I'm not voting for him about this.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, why should I be concerned about immigration just

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm Latino. It doesn't mean that immigration is most

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<v Speaker 2>important to me. I like Donald Trump for his economic policy.

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<v Speaker 2>And I tried to explain to people, you're basically voting

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<v Speaker 2>for everything because you're going to get everything with that vote,

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<v Speaker 2>whether you are focused on one thing or another thing,

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to get everything.

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<v Speaker 1>And Donald Trump, to his credits, has been very clear.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like something he said, oh no, no, no, no, I've

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<v Speaker 2>had nothing to do with Project twenty twenty five, and

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<v Speaker 2>then he enacts Project twenty twenty five like he was

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<v Speaker 2>deceiving someone. No, this is something that has always been

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<v Speaker 2>on his billboard of what is important to him as

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<v Speaker 2>a president and his legislative agenda.

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<v Speaker 1>It has always been there. He made it very clear

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<v Speaker 1>in the debate.

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<v Speaker 2>He made it very clear in public rally that immigration

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<v Speaker 2>raids were going to start day one. He said that

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<v Speaker 2>every single time. And here we are, okay, let's say

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<v Speaker 2>day twelve, and they are all underway. And now people

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<v Speaker 2>are acting in response to the ice raids. Now they

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<v Speaker 2>are seeing it in real time and how it is

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<v Speaker 2>really impacting families. And it's not Donald Trump's fault that

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't take him seriously. It's not Donald Trump's problem

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<v Speaker 2>that you didn't believe that he meant it. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>blame Donald Trump for doing it as exactly as he

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<v Speaker 2>said he would, at least in this instance. Now, going forward,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have a lot of options because if you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want this to happen, the best time to keep

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<v Speaker 2>it from happening was when November.

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<v Speaker 1>And I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>You live in California. There was no way that Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump was gonna win California. But I do know amongst communities,

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<v Speaker 2>we all talk I talked to my relatives in Miami,

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<v Speaker 2>in Florida, I talked to my relatives in North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 2>and there was this ground swell of support for Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump in twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four and shifted away from the Democrats. You can

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<v Speaker 2>blame the Democrats if you want, you can, but the

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats wouldn't have done this. And if this is one

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<v Speaker 2>of your chief concerns now so much so that you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be out there marching, you're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>blocking traffic with which is more symbolic than the substantive. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>the traffic is now moving. You didn't stop anything, you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't change anything. If it's that important to you, it

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<v Speaker 2>should have been important to you then. And I told

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrats this back in twenty sixteen. You missed your moment.

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<v Speaker 2>You missed your moment. And because you missed your moment,

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump appointed not one, not two, but three Supreme

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<v Speaker 2>Court justices, And now I'm basically saying the same thing,

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<v Speaker 2>with respect, of course, to the Latino and Hispanic communities,

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<v Speaker 2>you missed your moment. If this is as important as

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<v Speaker 2>believe as strongly about this issue as you do, you

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<v Speaker 2>missed your moment. That was in twenty twenty three. Excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four in November. If Donald Trump is not elected,

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<v Speaker 2>we aren't having this conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just as simple. It's just that simple.

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<v Speaker 4>It is shocking when I look at the percentage of

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<v Speaker 4>but just overall, and how that went up for Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 4>on stage viewing NonStop, but the response that was getting,

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<v Speaker 4>that we were at least getting is now, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know Harris I say that.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, wait a minute, I swear this is a

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<v Speaker 4>repeat and direct repeat of what happened with Clinton Clinton,

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<v Speaker 4>an exact repeat. And so now here we are again

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<v Speaker 4>And when I saw the protests on the freeway, I said,

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<v Speaker 4>is some department, some office, something happening in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 4>of all places where where the federal governments can say, hey, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>we need to hold off on what we're doing. Look

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<v Speaker 4>at them shutting down those freeways in southern California, a

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<v Speaker 4>state which, as you just said, did not vote for

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<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump. I promise you the President is not taking

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<v Speaker 4>what California does with any regard at all.

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<v Speaker 2>And we know that, if anything, Donald Trump is not

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is not responsive to public pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>That is something which has never faced him, which has

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<v Speaker 2>of the aisle. Now maybe the internal pressure from Republicans

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<v Speaker 2>who could thwart his agenda may yield a different result.

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<v Speaker 2>But Donald Trump is not going to look at protests

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<v Speaker 1>Because this is his whole platform.

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<v Speaker 2>If anything, I would say he would want the protests

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<v Speaker 2>supporters and even the people who don't support him, that

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<v Speaker 2>he's following through on a campaign promise. I'm quite sure

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<v Speaker 2>he would look at the protest today at LA he

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<v Speaker 2>would say, promise has made, promises kept, regardless of how

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<v Speaker 2>you feel about it. This is something he promised. He

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<v Speaker 2>didn't throw the rock.

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<v Speaker 1>And hide his hand.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope that not just the Latino community, every single

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<v Speaker 4>individual is out there in support, also protesting, also marching,

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<v Speaker 4>also up in arms. I know, I know the midterms

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<v Speaker 4>are a long way away, but I hope you keep

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<v Speaker 4>this energy going.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Historically they don't, unfortunately don't. If you can look at

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<v Speaker 2>voting patterns midterms, there's always a low turnout for midtims

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<v Speaker 2>and that goes back to civics and not understanding how

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<v Speaker 2>you can swing some seats just here in California, and

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<v Speaker 2>you could tip the balance in Congress, and if anything,

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<v Speaker 2>you could stop certain aspects of a Trump agenda, but

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<v Speaker 2>as far as his immigration policy and executive actions, that's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much out of your hands. And going back to

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrats in twenty sixteen, in the three Supreme Court justices,

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<v Speaker 2>because Donald Trump was elected in twenty sixteen, he was

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<v Speaker 2>able to also place all these federal judges tenure for life.

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<v Speaker 2>They're still here, you know, so there's not a lot

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<v Speaker 2>that you can do if you are anti Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just a function of civics. Y'all missed your moment,

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<v Speaker 2>not once.

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<v Speaker 1>But twice. He told you what he was going to do.

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<v Speaker 2>He looked you in your eye and said, day one,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting rid of all the quote unquote I legal

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<v Speaker 2>aliens his terminology. And now he's moving forward on that,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's no amount of protesting which is going to

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<v Speaker 2>change any of it.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 3>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yes, I know it's about two weeks late, but

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<v Speaker 2>we'll still take it. LA's first atmospheric river storm of

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<v Speaker 2>the year is coming and it's expected to start raining

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow night through Wednesday. You know what, I'm doing this

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<v Speaker 2>all wrong, and I'm doing it backwards. Even if Mark

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<v Speaker 2>has nothing to say. I haven't said good evening to Mark.

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<v Speaker 2>I've not given him his you know, his his sounder.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a while, hasn't it. You need a cigarette? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>That was very satisfying. So are we going to be

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<v Speaker 5>drowned in rain? We are going to be moist? Mo

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<v Speaker 5>How do you feel about that?

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<v Speaker 2>That has issues? Never say moist to another man. I

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<v Speaker 2>never Yeah, now that you put it that way. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we may be getting good and soaked tomorrow a few

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<v Speaker 2>through possibly Friday. Yeah, that was my bad tossing to you.

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<v Speaker 2>That was my bad, Yes, putting you in the conversation. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>don't agree with him, Stephan, You didn't have anything to

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<v Speaker 1>Don't jump in now talk about what you need to share.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Now you want to add your two cents, Now you

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<v Speaker 1>It's the tossing of it all. So what did you

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<v Speaker 1>have for dinner tonight? Mark? Salad?

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<v Speaker 5>I haven't had dinner yet, mo but surely a salad

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<v Speaker 5>isn't off the table?

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<v Speaker 1>Got it in La Adventurer County?

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<v Speaker 5>Is?

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<v Speaker 1>We're just going to keep on moving right through? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Please please.

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<v Speaker 2>Widespread rain is expected Tuesday through Wednesday, with a chance

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<v Speaker 2>of lingering showers Thursday. The peak of the storm is

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<v Speaker 2>expected between ten pm Tomorrow night and noon Wednesday, which

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<v Speaker 5>Until it starts tapering off on Wednesday. You can't hide

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<v Speaker 5>from this. There's no point in trust. I'm gonna try.

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<v Speaker 2>Presently, the most likely scenario is for moderate rain amounts

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<v Speaker 2>and generally beneficial rain for the area. That's according to

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<v Speaker 4>Excuse me, Tuesday and Thursday. So why did they just

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<v Speaker 4>say Tuesday through Thursday? Why significant rainfall is not expected

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess La County is going to get the

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<v Speaker 2>And also twelve and I were talking about this, there's

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<v Speaker 2>It helped, obviously, it helped with all the dry areas

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<v Speaker 2>we had, but it did not spur on any mudslides.

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<v Speaker 2>This one, we're going to probably have to deal with

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<v Speaker 2>some debris flow and mudslides and swallow. You and I

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<v Speaker 1>And there's still lots of construction going on.

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<v Speaker 1>There are still a lot of construction.

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<v Speaker 4>The Army Corps engineers there up there all about trying

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<v Speaker 4>the level of the last time we got this deluge

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<v Speaker 1>If I can only imagine what that's going.

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<v Speaker 2>To do for the terrain, Well, we don't have to imagine,

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<v Speaker 2>rebuilding Altadena, and also part of that conversation will be

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you want to hear about the good news air

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<v Speaker 2>quotes of rain, but you also know that it comes

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to further complicate any type of rebuilding or

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<v Speaker 2>sort of insurance assessment so you can move forward. And this,

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<v Speaker 2>although we need the rain, makes it even more difficult.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, especially for those I have several friends who have

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<v Speaker 4>trying to dig through some of the ash and find

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<v Speaker 4>some things. I've lots of friends who have found, like

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<v Speaker 1>It makes it just that much harder.

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<v Speaker 4>It's hard enough sifting through ash, but now you have

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<v Speaker 1>Man. It's Later with mo Kelly.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's kind of a heavy start to the show,

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<v Speaker 2>but when we come back on and have just a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of fun Mark Stefan twala, I want your

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<v Speaker 2>answers on the record before we go to break. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you store a ketchup in the fridge or in the cupboard?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why there was another. You start in

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<v Speaker 2>the fridge, that's where ketchup goes.

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<v Speaker 4>Why is it in the fridge or why is there

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<v Speaker 4>or there's there's a debate fridge Mark seconded fridge, Ye Stefan, fridge.

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<v Speaker 6>But I started to experiment with because when you think

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<v Speaker 6>of a restaurant, they're not in fridges. They're just down

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<v Speaker 6>on the table all day. I don't trust a restaurant

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<v Speaker 6>ketchup for that.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, because they married the bottles in the restaurant

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<v Speaker 5>the well, which is resgusting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the filthy habit filthy. We'll get it to that

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<v Speaker 1>and more when we come back.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's been this long debate over the years. It's

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<v Speaker 2>been too many years, I would say, even generations. Should

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<v Speaker 2>a shelf? And I have seen people give spirited arguments

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<v Speaker 2>in support of both. But we're going to settle that

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<v Speaker 2>debate right here, right now. And I wanted everyone on

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<v Speaker 2>the record as to where they stood prior to getting

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<v Speaker 2>the definitive answer on how you should store ketchup. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is according to Hines, I think they know something

432
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<v Speaker 2>about it. Ta Walla Sharp said the better be in

433
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<v Speaker 2>the fridge, Mark Ronners said seconded better safe than sorry,

434
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<v Speaker 2>and Stefan, who I will never trust in my kitchen

435
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<v Speaker 2>ever again, says the pantry or something like that.

436
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<v Speaker 1>Is that fair? Yeah, okay me.

437
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<v Speaker 2>I've always lived in a house where it was in

438
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<v Speaker 2>the refrigerator, even before it was open.

439
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<v Speaker 1>And that's Keith.

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<v Speaker 2>According to Hines, Tomato Ketchup they pulled twenty five hundred

441
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<v Speaker 2>Brits over their preferred ketchup storage method on social media.

442
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<v Speaker 1>Wait wait, no, no, no, no, no.

443
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<v Speaker 2>They were pulling people to get what they believed you

444
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<v Speaker 2>messed up when you said Brits.

445
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's the excellence of their food. I mean talk

446
00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:10.440
<v Speaker 4>about flavorless. You're missing the point.

447
00:26:10.559 --> 00:26:15.160
<v Speaker 2>They pull people to get what they believed, and then

448
00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:17.839
<v Speaker 2>they were going to tell them what the right answer was.

449
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<v Speaker 1>Are we going to pull the Brits on dentistry next?

450
00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:24.319
<v Speaker 2>And then you can always tell them brushing your teeth

451
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<v Speaker 2>is the best way to handle dental hygiene.

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<v Speaker 1>They boy their food and don't add any season. I

453
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<v Speaker 1>didn't say that the Brits knew right from wrong. I'm

454
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<v Speaker 1>just saying.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what predicated, this is what you know jump

456
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<v Speaker 2>started this.

457
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know does Hines hell from Great Britain or

458
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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter who they asked? Did they give the

459
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<v Speaker 1>right answers? Doesn't really matter. You should only ask Americans

460
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<v Speaker 1>about catch up.

461
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<v Speaker 2>But our answer if twenty five one hundred of us

462
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<v Speaker 2>gave the right answer the wrong answer, what difference does

463
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<v Speaker 2>the main They're still gonna come behind and give us

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<v Speaker 2>the right answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, go ahead, ah ketchup.

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<v Speaker 2>According to Hines, can sit in a dry pantry for

467
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<v Speaker 2>long periods of time unopened, but once used and exposed

468
00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:19.440
<v Speaker 2>to air, it is at risk of losing its color, taste,

469
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<v Speaker 2>and freshness if not kept in a fridge.

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<v Speaker 1>Now to finish my Brits.

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<v Speaker 2>Thought the Brits ended up on both sides almost fifty

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<v Speaker 2>to fifty as far as refrigerator or pantry.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, now, Mark, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Mark who brought up the restaurants and Miles me, oh, Stephanie, okay.

475
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<v Speaker 2>Most people are confused as to why restaurants leave ketchup

476
00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:45.000
<v Speaker 2>sitting out on tables instead of a fridge, and we

477
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<v Speaker 2>agreed this is mainly because the turnover at a restaurant

478
00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:49.960
<v Speaker 2>is much higher than at home, meaning the ketchup is

479
00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:54.200
<v Speaker 2>usually replaced daily, but worse than that, it's replaced using

480
00:27:54.200 --> 00:27:57.559
<v Speaker 2>the same container usually, and they just pour ketchup into it,

481
00:27:58.319 --> 00:28:01.000
<v Speaker 2>so you're mixing old ketchup with semi ole ketchup.

482
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<v Speaker 1>Grotesque. And by the way, that's not illegal in California. No, no, no,

483
00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:06.880
<v Speaker 1>that's very legal. Yeah.

484
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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, most restaurants do it, especially like Burger Joints. You

485
00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:13.279
<v Speaker 2>can tell like, oh, okay, that's one of those reusable

486
00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:18.759
<v Speaker 2>ketchup those mini bottles, Oh yeah, that they just keep refilling.

487
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<v Speaker 4>It's like, come on, that's come on, duh. Yeah, give

488
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:23.880
<v Speaker 4>me a packep, not a bottle.

489
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<v Speaker 2>And I was trying to review I can't think of

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<v Speaker 2>any food that I put ketchup on anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>French fries Nope? Did you take your fries dry? No,

492
00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:39.920
<v Speaker 4>don't put them in? What are you doing? Your food

493
00:28:39.960 --> 00:28:40.519
<v Speaker 4>is unloosing?

494
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<v Speaker 1>I do how hearty swallow that? How do you get

495
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<v Speaker 1>it down unloos Why do you hate America eggs?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh never, I've never in my life put ketchup on. No, No,

498
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<v Speaker 1>you're tripping.

499
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<v Speaker 2>No I have in my life dipped French fries in ketchup.

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00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:04.799
<v Speaker 2>I just have no desire to do it. I don't

501
00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:07.400
<v Speaker 2>think I've done it in decades. Wow, on a good

502
00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:10.640
<v Speaker 2>old play. The hash Browns. No, no, no, no, don't.

503
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<v Speaker 2>I don't do dinner sensibilities on breakfast food. In other words,

504
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:17.039
<v Speaker 2>if I'm having hash browns, I'm not dipping hash browns

505
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<v Speaker 2>and ketchup.

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<v Speaker 5>That's like Hamburger food or something. No, what with what

507
00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:23.960
<v Speaker 5>do you put on them instead? For God's sakes, the salt.

508
00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:27.000
<v Speaker 2>No, it's not even salt because of you know, on

509
00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:29.599
<v Speaker 2>the wrong side of fifty. I don't. I try to

510
00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:32.640
<v Speaker 2>limit my salt intake. So like, for example, a couple

511
00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:36.480
<v Speaker 2>of months ago, I went to canes raising canes, and

512
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:39.000
<v Speaker 2>they give you the option. They're willing to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>If I ask for fries no salt, they'll give me

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<v Speaker 2>fries no salt, and then you dip them in the ketchup.

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<v Speaker 4>Nope, I dipped them in the air and dipped them

516
00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:52.000
<v Speaker 4>in my mouth. You take dry fries, yes, my god, yes, no,

517
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<v Speaker 4>I've tried dipping them in ranch.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not bad, not bad, but I have no desire

519
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<v Speaker 2>to do It's not like when I say, oh I

520
00:29:57.559 --> 00:29:58.880
<v Speaker 2>need some fries, I can dip them in ranch.

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<v Speaker 1>No, not happening.

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<v Speaker 2>What is acceptable is tartar sauce. That's not bad either.

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<v Speaker 2>I have had that as a matter of facts. Yeah,

524
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<v Speaker 2>but it's not something I have like a taste for.

525
00:30:09.079 --> 00:30:11.160
<v Speaker 2>You really have to have a specific craving for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, is your.

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<v Speaker 4>Mouths just wet? How are you eating fries? But no,

528
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<v Speaker 4>I don't drink water afterwards. I don't need Here's I'm

529
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<v Speaker 4>glad you said that. Actually, Twila, I don't want my

530
00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:25.000
<v Speaker 4>fries soggy. I don't want my fries dipped in any

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<v Speaker 4>type of viscous liquid or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, mm hmm.

533
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<v Speaker 6>There any type of fry that you prefer, like steak fries,

534
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<v Speaker 6>which is.

535
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<v Speaker 2>Like, oh yes, no, no, no, I prefer steak fries over

536
00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:38.119
<v Speaker 2>string fries.

537
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<v Speaker 1>Good.

538
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<v Speaker 5>They require condiments, I'm sorry, especially steak fries. Otherwise it's

539
00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:44.799
<v Speaker 5>just a big old dry mouthful of starch.

540
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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, yes, give me some steak fries. No salt,

541
00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:52.359
<v Speaker 4>I am happy man.

542
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:55.079
<v Speaker 5>And then what you just got a hose at the

543
00:30:55.119 --> 00:30:56.720
<v Speaker 5>table to take it to get a mouthful of water

544
00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:01.519
<v Speaker 5>like one of these champion hot dog gobblers. They they

545
00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:05.519
<v Speaker 5>eat the wiener in the bun and then this is grotesque.

546
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:07.799
<v Speaker 5>I eat my fries one at a time.

547
00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Does that take No, it makes the meal feel more satiating.

548
00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:18.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm more satisfied at the end of the meal because

549
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:20.880
<v Speaker 2>it's taking a longer time to eat as opposed to

550
00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:23.000
<v Speaker 2>putting five and six in my mouth at the same time.

551
00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:25.400
<v Speaker 1>My mouth hurts right now. Yeah, this is like an intervention.

552
00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:27.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't like this. Yeah, I feel like I'm being

553
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<v Speaker 1>ganged up the progress.

554
00:31:28.319 --> 00:31:32.400
<v Speaker 6>That's what an intervention is. We're trying to help you

555
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:34.079
<v Speaker 6>real quick. Back to the hash browns. Do you have

556
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:36.359
<v Speaker 6>not put anything on it? Like when you get it?

557
00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:37.880
<v Speaker 6>If you do get them like in the morning for

558
00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:39.079
<v Speaker 6>breakfast something nothing.

559
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<v Speaker 4>I've never eaten anything on my fad, not even not

560
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:44.440
<v Speaker 4>even in the in the sunnyside egg run off.

561
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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I don't have runny eggs on anything. No,

562
00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:49.519
<v Speaker 2>they're scrambled hard. You figured that.

563
00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:50.000
<v Speaker 5>Wow?

564
00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:50.680
<v Speaker 3>No, I don't.

565
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:54.599
<v Speaker 2>My wife likes runny eggs. She's like sunnyside up. And

566
00:31:54.640 --> 00:31:56.480
<v Speaker 2>then you see the yolk just running all over and

567
00:31:56.680 --> 00:31:59.839
<v Speaker 2>the play you dip that into the hash browns.

568
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:03.799
<v Speaker 1>Exactly, that's nasty. No, no, nasty?

569
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:04.279
<v Speaker 5>Wow.

570
00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:05.920
<v Speaker 1>That probably grosses you out.

571
00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I don't want to runny eggs on my plate

572
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:10.039
<v Speaker 2>because it might touch my other food.

573
00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:12.880
<v Speaker 5>There are deeper issues at work here that are making

574
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:13.559
<v Speaker 5>me uncomfortable.

575
00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:16.559
<v Speaker 2>It's OCD. There are varying levels of OCD at play here.

576
00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:18.519
<v Speaker 2>The runny eggs. Don't want it to touch other food.

577
00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:21.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't like the taste or feel of runny eggs,

578
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:24.119
<v Speaker 2>even though I like eggs. I don't want my fries

579
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:29.640
<v Speaker 2>to be soggy or the texture of the fries changed

580
00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:31.039
<v Speaker 2>by whatever it's being dipped in.

581
00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:34.720
<v Speaker 5>The delicious yolk acts as a lube for other foods

582
00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:38.240
<v Speaker 5>on your plate with lube. I don't need my food lube.

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00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:39.079
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you do this.

584
00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:43.440
<v Speaker 5>You can't just unilaterally decide that the history of gravy

585
00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:44.200
<v Speaker 5>is invalid.

586
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Right now, Gravy is a loop.

587
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:48.680
<v Speaker 2>Actually, I prefer my mashed potatoes without gravy, thank.

588
00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:51.519
<v Speaker 1>You very much. I can't do this anymore.

589
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Mashed potatoes, hold the gravy, please, jeez. And I like

590
00:32:57.039 --> 00:32:59.680
<v Speaker 2>turkey on Thanksgiving. Hole the gravy.

591
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:03.960
<v Speaker 5>I am consistent. Nothing beats a big, old, plated dry turkey.

592
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:04.559
<v Speaker 5>You got it.

593
00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Maybe just need to have more saliva in your mouth.

594
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Who's gonna step up for that? Who's volunteering? They to

595
00:33:11.359 --> 00:33:12.440
<v Speaker 1>mouth that?

596
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:14.480
<v Speaker 6>If you make it right like real buttery and milk

597
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:16.039
<v Speaker 6>like creamy, it doesn't need it.

598
00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:20.319
<v Speaker 1>But the other two. I eat steak without steak sauce.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I don't know what's happened steak without ketch, because

600
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:26.559
<v Speaker 5>that's for savages.

601
00:33:26.640 --> 00:33:27.759
<v Speaker 1>But at least a one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, no, no, if you actually know anything about steak,

603
00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:34.039
<v Speaker 2>you're not supposed to eat with the steak sauce.

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00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:37.319
<v Speaker 1>What I've heard you can eat it however you like us. No, no, no, no,

605
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:40.279
<v Speaker 1>you can, but you shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 5>A one is delicious and it's only slightly less expensive

607
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<v Speaker 5>than printer in.

608
00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:48.000
<v Speaker 1>But you know what, I do use a one for hamburgers.

609
00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:49.039
<v Speaker 1>I put it on hamburgers.

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<v Speaker 4>I like, not bad, but I mean your hamburgers obviously

611
00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:55.559
<v Speaker 4>dry because it doesn't have ketchup on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Ketchup on hamburgers.

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<v Speaker 4>Geez Americans, literal red blooded Americans.

614
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:05.599
<v Speaker 1>That's who puts the ketchup on the burger. I'm sorry,

615
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<v Speaker 1>you're naturalized. You don't count.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay as a natural born American and Patriot. I back

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<v Speaker 5>up everything to all it just said, kay if, I

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<v Speaker 5>am six forty WeLive everywhere in the iHeartRadio app with

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<v Speaker 5>no ketchup.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, whether you love us, hate us, or haven't made

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<v Speaker 3>up your mind, we're glad you're here.

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<v Speaker 5>K f I and the k ost E HD two

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<v Speaker 5>Los Angeles, Orange County

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