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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Master of the NEEC podcast, the ultimate

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destination for anyone passionate about the electrical trade.

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Speaker 2: Whether you're a season electrician and eager apprentice, or.

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Speaker 1: Just someone who wants to dive deep into the world

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Speaker 2: Join your host, Paul.

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Speaker 1: Abernavi, a true authority in the industry with over thirty

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Speaker 1: Each episode, Paul will illuminate the complexities of the trade,

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decode the National Electrical Code, and share the latest industry trends,

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Speaker 2: Now get ready. Here is your host, Paul Abernavi.

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Speaker 1: What Up? What Up?

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Speaker 3: Everybody? Welcome to another episode of Master the NEC where

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and listen to the podcast. On today's episode, I'm gonna

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talk a little bit about some of the things that

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are coming up. There's been a lot of talk from

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different people emails and stuff about this thermal Electrician, and

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I'm not making it a whole episode on just the

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thermal electrician and what's going on with that, but I

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felt that it was important because we have some big,

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big meetings coming in the next week. In fact, it's

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less than a week from the whenever we're doing this podcast,

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And what it means is we're meeting and hopefully we'll

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be inking a deal for a major partnership with a

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major manufacturer of thermal imaging products to be their exclusive

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training and certification program and be able to hopefully get

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good deals for you the electrician on thermal imaging products.

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Things like that. I mean, that's the goal in what

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we're trying to do as well as promote the certification

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program that I've been working on for quite a while.

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We launched it probably a couple of weeks ago, but

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it's something that's been in the work for almost a year,

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creating the course, kind of building the infrastructure out of it.

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And so when we launched it live, you know, I

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get a lot of questions from electricians out there, say,

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why the hell do I need thermal imaging? And some

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of you don't. So that's the first thing I want

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to say to some of you out there that it's say,

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you know, I do I need thermal imaging? And many

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do not? Uh. And so again I want to make

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that clear first up front, because you know, through the years,

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I get a quite a fair amount of people that say, Paul,

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you you do create ideas and you come up with things,

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and you know, does does electrician necessary need everything? I mean, obviously,

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you know, we create exam prep and then EC learning

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programs to learn the NEC and again I think we

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do that better than anybody out there. But and the

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delivery of that is what I think we do better

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than anybody out there. But we're always creating new things

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that can help the industry, like the CMCP program, which

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is a very exclusive club if you will, not everybody

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can make it, and that was designed that way. I

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remember saying a couple of years ago that we and

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we've been doing this now for god, in two years,

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it'll be coming up on a decade, believe it or not.

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People are like, how long have you been doing the CMEMECP.

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I've you know, been doing it quite a long time.

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And people say, well, how many members do you have. Well,

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at the end of the day, it's not a club

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where just anybody that's a master electrician can get into it.

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It's not and we never wanted it was never a

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money generator. It was designed to give electricians that edge,

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master electricians that little edge and marketing because that was

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always my struggle as a contractor, you know, is how

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do I separate myself amongst my competition and then gain

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some knowledge in the process. That was the goal, right

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of the CMEMECP program, And of course we went on

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to get trademarks and all this other stuff for that

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type program, but that goal was to help grow electricians

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is from a professional standpoint, right, and so you kind

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of see a progression through our corporation what we were

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trying to do. And then of course the latest iteration

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of that is the certified Thermal Electrician. And again it's

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thermal imaging. I mean, there's tons of great thermal imaging

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thermography courses out there. So I'm not here to say

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that Flear doesn't have a great one, Snell doesn't have

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a great one. There's other ones out there, they're all great.

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I'm not here to down any of them, and I'm

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certainly not going to down any of them. But what

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my goal was, and again I always say this to people,

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is very selfish of me in a sense that I

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like to target certain things and bring the benefit of

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certain things. And for me, I'm an electrician and I

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always be an electrician. I'm not into building envelopes. I'm

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not into looking for leaks the water leaks, and I mean,

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do that. That's not my thing. My thing was when

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you look at the requirements or lack thereof, of the

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of the electrical industry. We have master electricians and we

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have you know, what I think is the pinnacle of

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that is where a master becomes a CBCP because it

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tells me they go over and above the normal licensure structure,

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and they the certifications are obviously voluntary. Don't anybody ever

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tell you they or not. The certifications are totally voluntary.

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be certified, that that's a jurisdictional thing. That's something they

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write into their requirements. It's not obviously mandated, unless, of course,

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the state has their own training programs that they mandate,

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which they can. And again, if you want to be

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an inspector for jurisdiction, you may have to go through

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local training that's sponsored by your local building board or whatever,

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and you get that, and that's different. But typically certification

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is voluntary, but it does tell people that you went

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over and above. Now, is anybody going to know about

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these things without you tooting your own horn. No, they're

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not going to know anything that exists. And so I

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think through the years, one of the big misconceptions with

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people is that people get they say, well, this person's

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cocky or this person is to know. It's a matter

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of how somebody markets themselves, how somebody takes the time

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to build this marketing machine that positively identifies you as

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the cream of the crop above the other. And so

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many people are like, well, no, no, no, that's conceded.

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That's what it is not. It's business, Okay. All of

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your major businesses are always trying to position themselves as

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above somebody else. And in business it's dog eat dog.

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Now wrapping us back to the recent deal with thermal imaging.

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So I've let people know we have offered some thermal

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cameras on our website and they are amazing thermal cameras.

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They're they're creating, they're made by a bank, they're H

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one twenty eight. They're amazing camera. And I was recently

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able to get my hands on another brand, and it's

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obviously not a major brand that you're familiar with, like

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a Flear, because they already got a program. But I

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was able to dig deeper into some other products and

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it was asked to review them. Did review them, started

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looking deep into the software, started looking deep into the function,

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and I started to notice some things. I started to

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notice that there are ways that you can use for

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electrical applications. These thermal imaging cameras a little bit better,

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whether it be on a service call to sell additional services,

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to just check somebody's panel, or to property maintenance or

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to building maintenance, or to more volatile situations like data centers, Amazons,

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the Facebook data centers and all their technicians should be

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trained and doing thermal imaging, especially monitoring it because again,

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as somebody who's worked in the wiring cable industry and

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had been involved in situations where data centers, the wiring

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and the and the systems burned down or break down

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or and they've always very concerned about reliability and heat

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is heat. Overloading is overloading. Poor connections are poor connections.

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It's just gonna happen. Okay, it's Murphy's law, It's going

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to happen. And so keeping a ongoing monitoring is a

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one of those safety nets that you can kind of

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forecast something's not going right. And so part of me

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when I looked at that, working as a you know,

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for a major manufacturer, in fact, the largest manufacturer of

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wiring cable in the world, I had a unique opportunity

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to understand terminations, understand wire understand insulations, understand infrastructure and

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serving on code panels, I hear more of it, and

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why we're pushing this code or this code or why

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this is important. And you start looking at things like

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parallel applications and why systems fail. And usually in big

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systems they're tied to parallel applications, and parallel applications get

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done wrong, loading's not balanced properly. You start looking at

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these things and I start to think. I got to

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thinking that as an electrician, how do I how do

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I identify these issues? How do how can I be

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proactively looking at identify these issues? As well as being

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an electrician, I want to add to my knowledge base.

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I don't just want to take a thermal camera, okay,

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and just put it on something and just see a

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hot spot and think that that's a problem and then

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report it and then all of a sudden there's consequences.

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on back. You know, I've been with you know, the

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WI and cable industry for over ten years, dedicated specifically

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to that. Obviously doing my other things, but I was

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dedicated to working very closely with the CEO of the

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previously at Encore in you know, handling very serious issues

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that would come up and identifying things that I kind

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of I kind of gained this this ability to look

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and perceive things that could happen and how we could

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prevent them. And so that's kind of what led me

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down this thermal imaging thing. Now again, great companies provide

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thermal imaging thermography level one, level two, level three. So

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for me, the difference was, I wanted to come up

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with the first ever electrician electrically specific thermography that that

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goes beyond just teaching how to identify hotspots, cold spots,

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transition of heat and how I apply missivity to it

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and how to you know, I wanted to go deeper.

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we don't want to cry wolf, but electricians can apply

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this to every day applications. And so then there was

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this thing where people would say, well, you know, how

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does it how does this apply to residential? Well, there's

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a way you can apply it to residential. Uh, And

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it takes a little bit. There's a process that you

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would do and it does require pre loading and how

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you would do that the best you can and you'd

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be amazed lose connections over time. I squared are heat

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will build up and send a signature, but you got

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to know what you're looking for. And so the thing

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about using a thermal imaging our camera is that a

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lot of things may not always be what they seem,

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whether you're picking the the improper color scale, uh, or

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you're you're not in you know, you're not reading it correctly,

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or you're seeing something that that you're crying wolf and

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you know it could shut down a system and uh

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and you be blamed for it, and you you increase

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your potential liability for that, especially if it's something that's

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an infrastructure like a data center and you cry wolf

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and they shut something down, and you know, I mean, look,

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look what happened recently when just uh cloud Fare went down,

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It CAUs a lot of money, a lot of infrastructure headaches,

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It caused people to get fired. It was it was.

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that if something could go down and it takes everything

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else down. Also, a lot to more people are really

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concerned about the insurance consequences of systems being reliable and

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being maintained and so I started to see a lot

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of the industries, like the in the insurance industry, who

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really rely on annual maintenance reviews. And I got to

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looking at it, and I said, you know, why don't

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annual preventative maintenance program that gets added into your normal

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maintenance program for insurance purposes. You know, I tell people

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all the time if if you torque things correctly, you

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have less of a problem. But it doesn't eliminate the

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fact that whether it's copper or aluminum, that it needs

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an an or even a bi annual inspection just to

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try to head off any problems. And there's certain things

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that you can look for, but you can do it

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without crying wolf. And I think that the problem that

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I saw in normal thermography programs was that it was

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level one introductions, Level two S, Level THREEES is more

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dealt for overall building systems, thermal envelopes, the building envelope, mortar, mitigation, migration,

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structural and I am not about any of that. I

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don't I really don't care. Now I can't say the

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company won't grow to add that type of training, but

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that's not what we're about. It's not what I'm about.

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I'm one hundred percent electrical. So what we've done is

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we want to create programs that training, courses, training elements

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that are very much focused on not crying wolf, but

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being able to identify potential issues, whether it's residential, commercial,

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or industrial, whether it is a maintenance exams, whether it's

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a maintenance protocol. Whereas you set up what we call

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black body emissivity dots on an initial installation that allows

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for ongoing biannual quick inspections of systems to make sure

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that the loading is right, that we're not overloading, because

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the first source of breakdown is the weakness that we

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have in our thermal insulation, and the insulation that we

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put on conductors is usually in an overload situation, one

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of the first things that fail, if it's thermal plastic

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usually I have is you'll have a migration of plasticizer,

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which is a compound that adds flexibility. But what happens

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when you lose plasticizer because of excessive overloading and mutual

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heating as well as ambient loading and heating, is that

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you get a conductor whose insulation becomes brittle, and you

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can augment that by getting something that does not have plasticizer,

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using a thermos set product like an XAHHW. The only

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problem is as that heats up, it crystallizes and also

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starts to break down if it's heat cycled an awful lot.

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you would be for a thermal plastic Both are great products.

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whether it's a data center, whether it's switch gear and

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a multifamily building, whether or not it's big industrial complex

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that has this real defined infrastructure of switch gears, switchboards, panel,

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whatever it may be, reliability is key because it's much

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better to head off a problem than it is to

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wait until it fails and then you have to react

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to the problem. And in industry, one of the big

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issues that we have is everybody is so reactive, and

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there is ways that we can be proactive. So by

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creating a concept of a program like we have that

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not only teaches you about thermal imaging, how to understand it,

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how to do peer review, how to you know again

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not cry Wolf, but a program that is set up

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to not just do that, but teach you the concepts

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of thermography from an electricians perspective. And so it really

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was the only program out there that that brings in

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the National Electrical Code, that brings in seventy B, that

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brings in n FPA, seventy E, brings in a lot

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of these things. And it's a perpetual program. Means that

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we're constantly adding to it. It's not a one and

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done type of thing. And nobody had done something like that.

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Nobody has created a program that was geared specifically towards

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electrical professionals. So that so that's what that's kind of

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in a nutshell, what I set out to do is

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create that type of program. Now, one of the things

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we're really excited about is not only did we create

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the program and it's doing very well, we're excited about it,

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but we also are looking at venturing into a major

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partnership with one of the leaders of thermal imaging technology

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around the world. Okay not just in the US, but

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around the world. And this is a big step for

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us because you know, we still the ink still has

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got to be put on paper, and we still have

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to do it and I'm not you know, I'm not

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naive enough to say in my job up in the

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gun even talking about it. But y'all know I wear

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my emotions on my sleeve. I talk about things. If

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it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, it doesn't. We're

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pressing forward. But a unique partnership in this scenario is

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what's going to create credibility in the industry that our

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program is going to be offered, and we're going to

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offer a great product, and it's going to be a

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full line of products from your basic thermal imaging all

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the way up to a really high end that you

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might get a little more features, a little more customization,

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a little easier for a maintenance technician to be able

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to record data, a little bit easier, a little more

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editing software. There's elements to this, and again the whole

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point was to be able to do this and offer

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something that people can now afford, because for years thermal

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imaging cameras were not affordable, and even now some of

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the lower quality ones are more affordable, but they're not

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as detailed, and there are certain things that you don't

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need a lot of detail for if you know how

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to read a thermal image, and you know how to

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read it, and you know how to position, you know

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how to remember that reflectivity can cause a problem. Emissivity

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has to be set right if you understand your distances.

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I see too many videos out there where people are

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shooting thermal imaging cameras from twenty feet away and thirty

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or trying to shoot it through walls and thinking that

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that's accurate like you see on TV, and that is

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so not how you do thermal imaging. I watch people

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selling them that are using them in applications and just

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people are seeing this image and they're thinking, well, that's cool,

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let me get a thermal camera, but they're not really

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learning how to use it. And so I think that's

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what our goal was, is to create something that shows

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somebody because you know what all the manufacturers will tell you.

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They all make great cameras, they're all using technology that's

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really cutting edge, but it's only as good as the

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hand that it's being that it's in, right, and so

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that was my focus on trying to create it. Again,

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I am not trying to be the expert on building envelope.

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I'm not trying to be the expert on migration of water.

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That's not what we do. I am an electrical expert.

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I've been doing this nearly forty years. I know conductors,

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I know terminations, I know wires, I know equipment. I

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know overcurrent devices. I know how they heat up. I

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know what the standards are. I know how you should

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approach a customer. I know how you sell the product,

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market the product. I know the benefits of certification and

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how you position yourself with it and how you can

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use it in your marketing. Okay, don't sell that short

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That's a major thing because it says that you have

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been trained. And somebody else besides you may offer the

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same thing, but have they been trained properly, especially specifically

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for electrical And that's all we're interested in. I'm not

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interested in home inspectors. I'm not interested in uh building

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people that do the building envelope stuff. I'm not into that. Right,

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people say, well, you're you're shortening your market. I don't

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care that. I don't care that. I have zero interest

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in that. Now, whether home inspectors get our program, or

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inspectors get our program or people buy, that's up to them.

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That obviously they can learn something from it. But that is,

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that is not my focus, right, that is not trying

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to be everything to everybody. The very type market that

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we're trying to raise the element of knowledge for electricians,

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electrical professionals, design professionals, engineers, people. That's all we're after.

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That's what we're trying to do, raise that level. And

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that's all I've ever tried to do. Uh. So, hopefully

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that the you know, next week or week after that,

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I can make a special announcement, a very big announcement,

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a very you know, global announcement for our corporation. It

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changes everything for me, It changes everything for our company,

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the people here, Jeff Darlene Brittany, it changes everything. When

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you do partnerships, and their solid partnerships means you can

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if you can trust the people you're working with. That's

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the key. You got to have a trust. You gotta

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have that trust. Right. So, again, nothing's going to stop

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from our exam preps, our courses. We feel they're the

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best in the industry. If you're trying to learn the NEEC,

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whether you're getting a license or you're already in the field,

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are mastering the NEC course is the best I believe

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it is. It's it's basically putting an expert in your pocket.

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Our trade hog is great, still works out amazing. We

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keep updating that every time we have a new model

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come out. That's just done behind the scenes. It's just automatic.

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You don't even have to worry about updating anything. It's automatic.

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We appreciate everybody that subscribes to that. The fast Tracks

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Tubes going great. It's our exclusive video platform. We love

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it and it's amazing, so we're excited about that. Still.

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It's a great platform, subscription platform, ninety nine bucks a year.

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It's wonderful. You know, you get rid of all the

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bs that you have over on YouTube and it's only videos,

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no commercials, that type of thing or no ads, I

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should say. And then of course here we are with

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the certified Thermal Electrician and it's quirky name, but it

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is what it is, and that's all we're actor is electricians.

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That's it. That's it, and we hopefully people will be

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interested in it and determine and call us, call me,

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call me directly and ask me, do you think thermal

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imaging is something you want to add to your program?

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You could be a one man, two man shop. And

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I'm sitting there thinking if you go do a service

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call and you get out of there in thirty minutes,

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and you're thinking, well, I'm being paid by the hour.

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Let me go on and offer them a thermal inspection

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of your panel, you know, take a heat source there.

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There's many different options for that. I tell people, just

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the standard hair dryers. Fine, put it on the branch circuits,

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you know, you know, if you want to load it

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up that way. I tell people they're cheap. I tell

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a lot of technicians, you'll get you three or four

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hair dryers, right, And simply get three or four hair

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dryers and take them and put them on the different

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circuits and let them run while you're doing inspections, are

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looking around, and let them pull the load at least

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forty percent of the loading on that circuit, which you

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will get from a normal just a normal resistive load

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hair dryer. And if they're a poor connection, it won't

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take long to be able to identify it. So there's

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different tips and different things that you can do while

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you're there, right, And so you know, and there's either

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people that are clever enough to say, well, I'll just

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I don't want to put hair dryers they have heat boxes,

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little ceramic heaters and little when they fit in a box.

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So they got a little kit of multiple ceramic heaters.

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That's totally up to you how you want to develop.

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And look at me, I'm just a simple guy. Okay.

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I need something that creates a load. That's it, and

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I want it to be at least forty percent of

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the circuits rating. That's it, and so everybody can. You know,

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you develop your own way. But when somebody calls you

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and says there lights flickering or there's something that might

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be a loose connection. Thermal imaging can be very beneficial

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if we start getting into a bunch of crap, so

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you start opening up a bunch of worms and things

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like that. If you know how to do it properly.

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That's just the low end, you know, making you know,

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going after projects, whereas you're trying to get big companies

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to hire you as a as a you know, come

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in twice twice a year and do a thermal imaging

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and then you keep this data and you see how

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it changes over time. Can be a good a good

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extra business for a company if you market it right.

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You got to be good at marketing. It's not one

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of those things that you just build it. It will come.

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You have to sell your service and you have to

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come up with ways to sell your service. And so

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if you're not a creative person and you don't really try,

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then you're not going to be successful. And you're probably

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not going to be successful in business either, right, and

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some people are meant to be business owners and some

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people are not just that simple anyway, I just wanted

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to give a quick one today. Let you know we

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got some big things coming. There will be deals that

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we hopefully will be able to get for students that

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are in our program right now, if you're hearing this,

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I have a very limited supply of our H one

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twenty eight thermal camera that is perfect for our program.

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They're available on our website fastracksystem dot com. If you

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want to pick one up, it's below MSRP check it out.

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I have a very limited number once we sign this partnership.

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If we do, we're going to be bringing in or

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we're gonna be using those thermal cameras. Are they any different, No,

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it's just another brand, But this is more of a

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strategic alignment with a partnership. The these thermal cameras work great.

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I use this one H one twenty eight. It's perfect

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so and it's affordable. It's a no brainer adding it.

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But you shouldn't be adding thermal imaging to your company

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unless you truly understand thermal imaging so that you're not

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crying wolf. Because if you go in and you tell

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a customer they need to do this or that, and

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it come to find out they didn't, then you open

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yourself up for problems. Okay, so get trained properly. And

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that's what our course is all about. So I just

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want to tell you a little bit about it. Hope

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it'll be something that when the partnership gets done that

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will it'll roll out nationwide. That partnership will be announced

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to press release. They will be marketing it. We will

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be marketing it. They will market our course, will in

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the certification, we'll be marketing their products together. It's going

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to be a great partnership. I hope seems to be

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that will we'll have a lot of videos that are

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going to be coming out using their products and creating

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this these training with the products so that you can

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get more intimate with the product, understand the features and

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what it can do. And it'll be at different price

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levels for the products, because there are some that are

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better than others. Okay, some of the products that are

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a little more advanced are for more features or more

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pixels or a higher definition camera view that you may

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or may not need, depending on what you're dealing with. Okay,

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depends on your business, how you want to promote your business. Right,

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So again, all of that's to come in the future.

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But again I appreciate you folks following us in subscrip.

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Make sure if this first time you've ever heard, make

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sure you subscribe whatever platform you're on, because you have

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a lot of great things coming. All right, folks, until

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next time, stay safe, God bless them. We'll catch you

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on an upcoming episode of Master the NEC.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning into another electrifying episode of the Master

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of the ANEC podcast. We hope you're feeling more powered

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up and ready to tackle the electrical world with the

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knowledge and confidence you need to succeed. Remember, in the

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electrical trade, knowledge is power, and we're here to make sure.

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