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Speaker 2: Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Eye on the Ball
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Roberta. He's
Speaker 2: jagin zaus got a guy Ryan with us today. Happy
Speaker 2: he been back. Jay, I know you missed me. Thanks
Speaker 2: for the cake.
Speaker 3: Well, I had some cake at the at the at
Speaker 3: the press or did you have something because that was
Speaker 3: for you? Everybody ate it. Everybody had something. You didn't
Speaker 3: have something that's on, that's on.
Speaker 2: You snooze to me.
Speaker 3: I had something. It was good.
Speaker 2: We did not Yeah, I didn't even see it. Did
Speaker 2: you have a nice sand which with That's how we
Speaker 2: spent that sandwich.
Speaker 3: I had a I had never had one before, but
Speaker 3: I had a Portobella mushroom which was really good. I
Speaker 3: thought it was a piece of meat, That's why I
Speaker 3: got it and turned out as a mushroom. But what
Speaker 3: am I gonna do?
Speaker 2: Ice checked soon, Well, there was okay, there was there
Speaker 2: was a you know, it was a buffet thing, and
Speaker 2: there was the Portabello mushrooms.
Speaker 3: Then there was a thing a chicken. Next for us,
Speaker 3: I thought chicken steak, chicken steak, right, chicken and beef
Speaker 3: right right, But it was not beef. It was. It
Speaker 3: was Oh that was a flat thing. Yeah, it was
Speaker 3: a portabello mushroom.
Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because I thought it was a steak too.
Speaker 2: I thought it was like I thought it was like
Speaker 2: an ugly steak.
Speaker 3: Well I did to. I thought it was it almost
Speaker 3: looked like carnah right right. It was a mushroom.
Speaker 2: Oh, funny.
Speaker 3: It was still good. I never had one of those.
Speaker 3: I thought it was just overcooked. Well, Garna saw it
Speaker 3: turns to be you know.
Speaker 2: No, I just thought whatever, it was overcooked because it
Speaker 2: was dark.
Speaker 3: It's good. It was still good, you know. You know.
Speaker 3: Then we had the you know, the cold cut sandwich
Speaker 3: and some data salad. Well that eating was for not,
Speaker 3: I mean, or not for not.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have an interview with Coach Brennan his press
Speaker 2: Prescotts opening. It was kind of odd to me. You
Speaker 2: thought only in a sense said it was. You had
Speaker 2: ten minutes it rehashed a bunch of stuff ten minutes
Speaker 2: and then we talked to the assistants if you wanted to,
Speaker 2: uh not like in the years past when they kind
Speaker 2: of bring them to us and we can go to them.
Speaker 2: And yeah, but it's so formal formal media days.
Speaker 3: There is no media day anymore. It's morphed into this. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know. They they did their other player photos and
Speaker 3: stuff like that for you know, other media, and didn't
Speaker 3: invite us go talk to any of the players. Right,
Speaker 3: who was that yesterday? Last week? Okay, last week? They
Speaker 3: posted on social media? You know me, it's media day
Speaker 3: and like there's no media there for who you football? Yeah,
Speaker 3: but who was the media? What was it for? It was?
Speaker 3: It was for them to go what they normally do,
Speaker 3: you know, because normally media day is their photo day. Sure,
Speaker 3: so they still called it media day, but it was
Speaker 3: no photo media. There was no media that. Yeah, there's
Speaker 3: no media. And then we got this ten minutes with
Speaker 3: with Brent Brennan and then the the assistant coaches there.
Speaker 3: Had a fun conversation with with Dwayne and Quina. We're
Speaker 3: having some technical issues getting our clips into into our
Speaker 3: computers here so we can play those for you. But
Speaker 3: as soon as they're hopefully by after our first guest,
Speaker 3: we'll have them in and we'll play you the full
Speaker 3: Brent Brennan that it is our first guest. Oh, that
Speaker 3: was our first Well hopefully then by the three fifteen,
Speaker 3: by three fifteen they'll be in. So we're crossing our fingers,
Speaker 3: but it's possible we might not have it at three
Speaker 3: fifteen and maybe the third segment also had got about
Speaker 3: got a few minutes for Duyne Aquina to preview that conversation.
Speaker 3: I will say that, my you, we've talked about how
Speaker 3: every ten win Arizona season has been followed by a
Speaker 3: less than stellar season, and something that Dwayne Naquina said
Speaker 3: in this and I will play for you sort of
Speaker 3: made me feel a whole lot better about that whole thing.
Speaker 3: So we'll play that at some point and you'll you'll
Speaker 3: hear what he had to say.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I was there for some of it, and no,
Speaker 2: it was kind of refreshing because a lot of the
Speaker 2: guys have been through that already because they were here before.
Speaker 2: You know, they were here with Arizona at the time. Yea,
Speaker 2: including cooking right right, Okay, So, and then in the
Speaker 2: second hour found Frank Bush he's not in town, but
Speaker 2: he's not at the Olympics either. He's in the States
Speaker 2: and he's going to join us. I thought we talked
Speaker 2: a lot about the Olympics, and obviously his experience, his part,
Speaker 2: his experience, and then you know, if there's a guy
Speaker 2: who really enlightened us to the nil and the things
Speaker 2: that were upcoming. Member in his last week was very
Speaker 2: refreshing and very honest of what we were going to expect.
Speaker 3: He's been spot off.
Speaker 2: He's been spot on and what we're going to expect
Speaker 2: with people or kids making a ton of money, and
Speaker 2: it's a business, and he wouldn't be surprised if it
Speaker 2: turns into it. At least that's what the case was
Speaker 2: a few months ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it is, you know, I mean the more
Speaker 3: you talk about it, you know, I keep listening to
Speaker 3: stuff and hearing stuff about you know, the whole revenue
Speaker 3: sharing aspect. Of the latest thing now that you're hearing
Speaker 3: is how are they going to resolve the Title nine issue?
Speaker 3: Because what Title nine says is that there have to
Speaker 3: be as many scholarshists for men as for women, But
Speaker 3: it makes no mention of revenue sharing. Because revenue sharing
Speaker 3: was not a part of anything. When Title nine came around,
Speaker 3: You've got some people saying that that Title nine applies
Speaker 3: to revenue sharing and some who say it doesn't, and
Speaker 3: that it doesn't because the money that brings in revenue
Speaker 3: generally doesn't involve women's sports, and in fact, they shouldn't
Speaker 3: have to. You know that that football and basket men's
Speaker 3: basketball should get the lion's share of the revenue sharing
Speaker 3: and then whatever left over goes to the other sports
Speaker 3: who don't bring in any money.
Speaker 2: You know what, I see a big lawsuit after this. Yes,
Speaker 2: because I talked about this with you before, your dad
Speaker 2: or a mom of a woman, lacrosse player, soccer player,
Speaker 2: little little little Janis workshire but off just as much
Speaker 2: as everybody.
Speaker 3: Else, right, And that's what you're gonna hear, you gonna hear. Well,
Speaker 3: wait a minute, you know there's Look, there's are good
Speaker 3: arguments on both sides. Because the argument about, look, football
Speaker 3: brings in all the money, it makes sense to give
Speaker 3: the money to the people who bring in the money.
Speaker 3: That's I mean, that's what NI l and and revenue
Speaker 3: sharing is all about. To pay the people who bring
Speaker 3: in that money. Well, there's only two sports that bring
Speaker 3: that in and in some in in some places there's
Speaker 3: only one sport that brings that in, and it's like, okay,
Speaker 3: who gets who gets that? So that's the kind of
Speaker 3: thing where you know that's out there now, that's the
Speaker 3: sort of the the front of the conversation. And you're right,
Speaker 3: whatever's decided initially is going to is going to result
Speaker 3: in a lawsuit. Or maybe they just might say, you
Speaker 3: know what, let's just get this into the courts now
Speaker 3: and figure it out, or or Congress is gonna have
Speaker 3: to do something.
Speaker 2: Sure, No, this is this is a weird time we're
Speaker 2: living in. And in terms of sports, Uh, this is
Speaker 2: one of my concerns back in the day. If little
Speaker 2: Johnny's getting money, little Janis needs to get money too. Yeah, uh,
Speaker 2: she's working just as hard. Everybody thinks they're the stuff.
Speaker 2: We had Geist and we had our Diver. They were
Speaker 2: the face of the program, Yeah, the entire program because
Speaker 2: of their success they were.
Speaker 3: But but but nobody even knew your face. Right. But
Speaker 3: also you know they weren't bringing in any real.
Speaker 2: No of course not, of course not. But they were
Speaker 2: bringing in there positive visibility, right right, They're bringing in ability.
Speaker 3: How much right, how much is that worth? Right? So,
Speaker 3: and nobody's saying they shouldn't get any of it. They're
Speaker 3: just saying, what's the you know, how do you do
Speaker 3: how do you break it up? How you do?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: Coming out of the SEC SEC media days, you know
Speaker 3: the coaches that you know, again, this is all from
Speaker 3: uh you know, I listened to the Pat forty UH,
Speaker 3: Dan Wetzel UH Ross Dellinger UH podcast and Ross Stalinger
Speaker 3: is like he's like the On Wilmer of the country
Speaker 3: as it relates to all this business of sports. Rosstandre
Speaker 3: was saying that the the SEC coaches are saying that
Speaker 3: football should get ten to twelve million of the twenty
Speaker 3: two million that they're saying they're gonna have to share
Speaker 3: in revenue basically half or more, and that the rest
Speaker 3: goes to everybody else. And but then you're gonna say, well,
Speaker 3: basketball should get a bunch of that because they're making money. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't know if they'll tie it to you know,
Speaker 3: revenue or whatever. Because look, women's basketball at Arizona brings
Speaker 3: in revenue, right don't they make? Are they profitable? But
Speaker 3: they are bringing in revenue because they're they're selling seven
Speaker 3: thousand tickets a game.
Speaker 2: They're less death that they used to be.
Speaker 3: Right, you know, softball, you know they get twenty two
Speaker 3: thousand fans per game. Baseball gets two thousand fans per game,
Speaker 3: three thousand and four thousand, whatever. But they're still not profitable, right,
Speaker 3: So all that's got to get figured out. And so
Speaker 3: I you don't I don't want to have to be
Speaker 3: the one to do it. Somebody has to because I
Speaker 3: think revenue is going to have to be shared starting
Speaker 3: with the twenty twenty five twenty six season, So not
Speaker 3: this season, but next.
Speaker 2: Well, let's see what they come up with, because I
Speaker 2: definitely think that the guys that are.
Speaker 3: Going to make a lot of money for the lawyers.
Speaker 2: Rights they as they usually do, as they always do.
Speaker 2: It's just a strange time. And is there a right answer.
Speaker 3: Probably not, but there has to be an answer that
Speaker 3: there has to be an answer solves all the legal
Speaker 3: issues so that we can move on and let college
Speaker 3: athletics be college athletics in whatever form it is. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because we all know it's not it's not our old
Speaker 3: college athletics that's you know, that's gone by the wayside.
Speaker 2: Sure it's something different, Yes, it's not even not even
Speaker 2: my old college your stepdad. Yeah, it's just Christy times.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: We're still trying to get desirat in talk about all this.
Speaker 3: It sounds like we're a ways away for it will
Speaker 3: be a while before we're ways away from that.
Speaker 2: There's no real answer away, And what can people say?
Speaker 2: I really can't tell you, Jay, because I don't know.
Speaker 3: We don't know well, you know, in the in the
Speaker 3: in the press conference today, you know, Mike Michael lev
Speaker 3: asked Brent Brandan about the one hundred and five one
Speaker 3: hundred and five player limit that's gonna get that's coming
Speaker 3: about as part of the House versus n C double
Speaker 3: a settlement, and he said, we do. We've worked with
Speaker 3: one hundred and one players anyways. The difference is all
Speaker 3: one hundred and five can get scholarships now, you know,
Speaker 3: and then that's another topic of discussion. Okay, are you
Speaker 3: going to give a hundred five scholarships? You know? What
Speaker 3: about player number one oh five, who's essentially a walk
Speaker 3: on probably is not going to play or if you play,
Speaker 3: if he plays, I talk about football, If he plays,
Speaker 3: he's not gonna play till the senior year. After he's
Speaker 3: worked his way up in which he would have gotten
Speaker 3: a scholarship maybe because you know, he did the work
Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff. Are you are you
Speaker 3: going to give a four year scholarship to a player
Speaker 3: who would otherwise have been a walk on? And can
Speaker 3: you afford to do that? There's twenty people, twenty athletes
Speaker 3: that you're talking about funding with scholarships that probably that
Speaker 3: would not have gotten a scholarship.
Speaker 2: And how do you look at it? Uh, if you're
Speaker 2: Arizona knowing I'm already broke, right, I'm already broke, and
Speaker 2: this is being thrown at me because I have.
Speaker 3: To because I have I have to now, right. But
Speaker 3: but but see they're not saying you have to give
Speaker 3: one hundred and five scholarships. But but there's the limit.
Speaker 3: But that's the limit. But what they are what they
Speaker 3: are still saying, though, is that for every scholarship you
Speaker 3: give to a male athlete, you gotta get one too.
Speaker 2: Do you We talked about this before. I'm assuming, uh
Speaker 2: sports will be come into play, will be coming into
Speaker 2: play sports, Uh, their availability or diminished or demise right right?
Speaker 3: Well, that's it. And that's the other thing, you know,
Speaker 3: the house again, the lawsuit in the Saddle does get
Speaker 3: leave the door open for schools in order to meet
Speaker 3: the funding requirements? It says, yes, you can eliminate sports
Speaker 3: if you want to. Who's going to want to do that? Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's a tough that's a tough one. Right, you start
Speaker 3: eliminating sports because because you're giving X amount of money
Speaker 3: to the athletes. How's the average fan take? How does
Speaker 3: a parent take that? Who's groomed their kid to be
Speaker 3: a softball player or a track athlete or a golfer,
Speaker 3: and now that sport has gone from their school.
Speaker 2: We've seen it a number of times, at least I
Speaker 2: have too. Like in New Mexico with soccer, the programs
Speaker 2: were survived or or or put up or kept up
Speaker 2: through donors donations from.
Speaker 3: That's what happened in Stanford, right. Remember remember they were
Speaker 3: going to eliminate I think like seventeen sports. They eliminated
Speaker 3: seventeen sports, and the donors came back and said, who wha,
Speaker 3: whoa get those things back, will give you the money,
Speaker 3: And they did.
Speaker 2: And Stanford is known for those sports. Right, That's how
Speaker 2: they become because.
Speaker 3: That's its identity as a as an athletics It's not
Speaker 3: identified by the fact that it went to what a
Speaker 3: couple of rose bowls, you know, in the in the
Speaker 3: two thousands. They're identified by the fact that from an
Speaker 3: Olympic sports standpoint, they're far and far and away the
Speaker 3: best one in the country.
Speaker 2: I think over time, you know, we're in our whatever,
Speaker 2: we're in the sixties, in the next four or five years,
Speaker 2: you're going to see this whole thing even worse, with
Speaker 2: fewer teams, fewer teams, fewer sports. Yeah, and more changes,
Speaker 2: because you know, here's the this is just the beginning, right,
Speaker 2: they're going to make more changes.
Speaker 3: Well again, I read that, I read you that quote
Speaker 3: from Kyle Whittingham that he apparently he said a big
Speaker 3: twelve media day that I don't know that I haven't
Speaker 3: heard of this, but it was a it was apparently
Speaker 3: an interview with with Jogi Roth where Whittingham said in
Speaker 3: the next twenty months to four or five years. This
Speaker 3: isn't the quote because I'm looking for it, but essentially
Speaker 3: said there's going to be He's called it two super leagues,
Speaker 3: and he said you better be on the right side
Speaker 3: of that or you're going to get left behind. That
Speaker 3: part of it is a quote, you know, okay, and
Speaker 3: you asked the question immediately, Okay, how many are in
Speaker 3: the super League? Is it here? Here? Here's his quote.
Speaker 3: This was to Yogi Roth and we got to get
Speaker 3: out of here. My guess is there are going to
Speaker 3: be two super leagues within the next twenty months to
Speaker 3: four or five years, and you better be on the
Speaker 3: right side of that line in the sand when that
Speaker 3: is drawn, because everyone else is going to be left behind.
Speaker 3: No Ques. And he's talking about college.
Speaker 2: Football, right right? So twenty five thirty was it?
Speaker 3: Forty? The fifty?
Speaker 2: Right? Right? So each side or is it is that?
Speaker 3: Is that the is that all the power for schools?
Speaker 2: Right right?
Speaker 3: Right? Right? But that includes you know, the Vanderbilts.
Speaker 2: And that's the set's like sixty five seventy.
Speaker 3: It's sixty five sixty sixty five teams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so okay, and how do you get how do
Speaker 2: you get on the right side?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Right? Yeah? Who do yeah? How do you cannot
Speaker 3: make those truth? Well, Arizona, Arizona just better be damn
Speaker 3: good whenever that.
Speaker 2: Happened, right, So they cannot avoid not right right right? Okay,
Speaker 2: So let's get out of here.
Speaker 3: Maybe we have uh We're hoping to have the Brent
Speaker 3: Brandon clip ready for you. If not, we'll talk through
Speaker 3: it and hope it's ready in the last hour of
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Speaker 1: Breaking down all the exes at all. It's Steve Rivera
Speaker 1: and Jagen Salvias. This is I on the ball on
Speaker 1: Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back, joining the ball. You know Fox Sports
Speaker 2: forteen Steve, you or Jay and he's noisy Ryan. All right,
Speaker 2: excuse excuse of right beans today, no ectu.
Speaker 3: Here's movies his microo. Look, you know what, who knows you?
Speaker 10: Right?
Speaker 3: It's okay. I heard a few comments about our uheber
Speaker 3: what goes on in a physical conversation that we had
Speaker 3: the other day. I remember that when we were talking.
Speaker 2: About oh yeah, how we describe it and.
Speaker 3: To turn your head and cough thing. Ye yeah, just
Speaker 3: just that, just that whole conversation that was like, what
Speaker 3: are you talking about? Well they didn't know well no, no, no,
Speaker 3: they knew it, but they're just saying, like you guys.
Speaker 3: That was fun That's the best he could do that day.
Speaker 3: That was funny though. That was pretty funny. A couple
Speaker 3: of people that I told we had that conversation they said,
Speaker 3: you did not. Yeah, we have a less of jobs
Speaker 3: because you didn't talk. Yeah, we did talk about it
Speaker 3: at late. The whole segment was like spent on that
Speaker 3: to do it right, and we started it up again.
Speaker 2: No, no, okay, cool, cool, I'm going to be back
Speaker 2: with you guys. We have football starting officially today, but tomorrow, right.
Speaker 3: Practice starts tomorrow. Okay. I have to crrack something because
Speaker 3: I was asking Jeff bo the s idea about this,
Speaker 3: because I've been saying practices are open to the public. Well,
Speaker 3: some are, some aren't. I said, is tomorrow's first practice
Speaker 3: open to the public, and he said, we don't know yet,
Speaker 3: so don't listen to us as far as that goes
Speaker 3: or will when we know, we know, and we'll let
Speaker 3: you know. But I would not show up at nine
Speaker 3: o'clock tomorrow or nine thirty whatever time it is, or
Speaker 3: their practice tomorrow unless you hear somewhere else, either in
Speaker 3: the Arizone Daily Star or you know on on u
Speaker 3: of a social media that practice is open. They were
Speaker 3: just said some will be some or not and they
Speaker 3: haven't hadn't decided on tomorrows. Well just say though, so
Speaker 3: if you if you show up don't say what Jay
Speaker 3: Gonzales and I on the Boss said, we could come over.
Speaker 3: Don't do that right, okay, yeah, yeah, so you're not
Speaker 3: hearing it from us. Yeah, so anyway, so we warned
Speaker 3: you and it's gonna be hot anyway.
Speaker 2: Do you today? We didn't I didn't ask anything anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we didn't. Oh, only about six questions. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: was very cool.
Speaker 2: Quick. We had ten minutes and you'll you'll hear it
Speaker 2: once we get it. And I'm thinking, God, here we
Speaker 2: are almost August first another season. Are are we ready?
Speaker 3: Are they ready?
Speaker 2: Because in a month it's gonna happen, not that it's ready,
Speaker 2: it's ready, is not that thing? It just happened so quickly,
Speaker 2: didn't They just announced him? Yeah, five months ago.
Speaker 3: It seems like it's it's been fast, and you know,
Speaker 3: we were talking about that and even even you know,
Speaker 3: in the press confertor saying, it just doesn't seem like
Speaker 3: you've been here all that long, and and he hasn't.
Speaker 3: It feels like he has, but there feels like he hasn't. Right,
Speaker 3: We're still talking about jet fish from time to time
Speaker 3: and and all that stuff. But it's been a whirlwind
Speaker 3: and and you know, and and it's here. Part of
Speaker 3: it is because all this conversation we've had all summer
Speaker 3: long about going to the Big twelve and all this
Speaker 3: kind of stuff, that it's here and we're talking about it,
Speaker 3: and we spend some time talking about, you know, what
Speaker 3: the move to the Big twelve might be like for Arizona. Uh,
Speaker 3: you know going into this season. You know, you know,
Speaker 3: Greg ran through all the all the the the attendance
Speaker 3: figures at the very stadiums. Yeah, and and you know saying,
Speaker 3: you know, their stadiums are full. When Arizona goes on
Speaker 3: the road, they're gonna go They're gonna go be playing
Speaker 3: in full stadium. Right.
Speaker 2: Well, they're good. They're college towns, right about their college
Speaker 2: you know. And I was talking to the new guy
Speaker 2: from Albuquerque in New Mexico, their linebacker coach.
Speaker 3: Uh, tell me his name, Danny Gonzalez. I don't know,
Speaker 3: I couldn't remember that. Is he an?
Speaker 2: He's an not a Z right? I think he's so,
Speaker 2: says in Gonzales.
Speaker 3: Which yeah, people people Gonzales within and Gonzales with. I've
Speaker 3: been both, but I'm technically Gonzales with no people spend
Speaker 3: all the time of course, you know the Comcast. I'm
Speaker 3: Gonzales with a Z with no no no, no, no no.
Speaker 2: Okay, So so we're talking about it.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Some of the schools in the West, like Tucson is
Speaker 2: a college town, right, hasn't been a good college town.
Speaker 2: Depends on the day, depends on the game. But there
Speaker 2: are very few of them. And he was kind of
Speaker 2: the list. Albuquerque is a college town, but it has
Speaker 2: n't backed his football program because it's not any good.
Speaker 2: Give me some good college football programs.
Speaker 3: In the West. In the West, Oregon b yu okay,
Speaker 3: b y u e yu in Utah, Oregon is a
Speaker 3: good Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't include Utah. You don't because they have.
Speaker 3: Oh they're Salt Lake City. They're a big city, right,
Speaker 3: you're right, okay, but b y u is one boulder,
Speaker 3: I say bolder, right, Okay, Yeah. Give that's a fun
Speaker 3: that's a fun road trip. That's a really fun road trip.
Speaker 3: But because even though you go in and out of Denver,
Speaker 3: you get over the boulder and you feel like they're
Speaker 3: in a place like kind of like TuS On, but no,
Speaker 3: around the around the Pac twelve, they're all big cities
Speaker 3: or you know, or Corvallis is kind of no, that's
Speaker 3: that's that's going to washing. The same thing with Washington State.
Speaker 3: It's just out in the middle of nowhere and there's
Speaker 3: not a lot there. All the other ones, you know,
Speaker 3: then you got two sons, and all the other ones
Speaker 3: are big cities. Seattle, the you know, the Bay Area
Speaker 3: are you know, Berkeley and and and San Francisco. They
Speaker 3: they're lost in the shuffle. The l A schools, Phoenix
Speaker 3: and Phoenix and all that stuff. So yeah, no, they
Speaker 3: they and yet those are all college times. We're talking
Speaker 3: still Water, Waco, Lubbock. Uh uh, Well, Houston's a big
Speaker 3: city and so and and and you know, in our
Speaker 3: conversation with gregs hey talked about the fact Houston is
Speaker 3: the one big one of the big cities in in
Speaker 3: the Big twelve, and their attendance is what the others are.
Speaker 3: TCU is the same way. You know, they're they're fort Worth,
Speaker 3: but they're technically Dallas, right, the Dallas Fort Worth metroplex.
Speaker 3: So they get kind of lost in the shuffle. But
Speaker 3: everybody else is in its own, its own little place.
Speaker 3: The two Kansas schools, Iowa stayed, all of those are
Speaker 3: in their own kind of their own little their own
Speaker 3: little deal. So no, it's uh, it's gonna be different,
Speaker 3: and I think it's gonna be fun. I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna like watching the game where the fans are into
Speaker 3: it and it's a big game. Yeah, you know, no question.
Speaker 2: And it's gonna like I heard you and Judge and
Speaker 2: Greg on the radio when I was coming back from
Speaker 2: from home, very interesting. It's gonna be tough. But like
Speaker 2: you said, and you asked some of the guys, I'd
Speaker 2: rather play in front of that than in front of
Speaker 2: in front of ten, fifteen, twenty thousand people.
Speaker 3: But what goes the crap? No, absolutely, and I think
Speaker 3: the I think the players do too. Yet, Yes, it's hard,
Speaker 3: but it's harder if there's nobody there.
Speaker 2: Nobody gives the well, hey, i'll give you an example
Speaker 2: Arizona basketball. Yeah, when they can't play in front of
Speaker 2: ten fifteen thousand or not ten, I'm sorry, three or
Speaker 2: four when the stadium fits fifteen the day notoriosty don't
Speaker 2: show up right. I mean, I can give you history.
Speaker 3: We've seen it all that. We've seen it all the time.
Speaker 3: They lost some of those horrible.
Speaker 2: And that's sad to say that they can't get up
Speaker 2: for a game like that. But that's.
Speaker 3: There's nothing you can uh, you know, there's no denying
Speaker 3: that that's what happened.
Speaker 2: That's why I think let me let me say this,
Speaker 2: and then we talked about this before. Home home court advantage,
Speaker 2: home field advantage, home court advantage. Specifically, you say only
Speaker 2: have it, No, only for Arizona games, only for Arizona game,
Speaker 2: but even what is that advantage?
Speaker 3: Well, but because you know, you go to a UCLA game,
Speaker 3: ucl Arizona game at Polly, there's a lot of Arizona fans. Yeah, right, right,
Speaker 3: So what's the advent? Right, So there's not that much
Speaker 3: of an advantage.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say that you can go round the
Speaker 2: lead maybe Oregon, but when they was at they had
Speaker 2: a serious home court.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think, and there's nowhere else. Well again,
Speaker 3: Maple's back in the day, the Mike Montgomery days and
Speaker 3: those that was that was incredible, hurt.
Speaker 2: Okay, So they give you a don't have a home
Speaker 2: court advantage, and I'll give you something that I've said
Speaker 2: on the show.
Speaker 3: I think it does.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I don't disagree with that to a degree.
Speaker 2: But when I was talking to Mike Montgomery for the book.
Speaker 2: He said, Steve, it's tough, but they also have pretty
Speaker 2: damn good play.
Speaker 3: Well, yes, the home court advantage had a lot to
Speaker 3: do with the players.
Speaker 2: The players, because are them damn good? You have to
Speaker 2: you don't solve for the crowd. You saw for Richard Jefferson,
Speaker 2: you saw for you saw for that, right right, No,
Speaker 2: no doubt. Use they'd rather play in front of the fifteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but how many how many times did they want
Speaker 3: to game though, Steve, you know, a tight game or
Speaker 3: a game against a really good team where he said
Speaker 3: the crowd had a lot to do.
Speaker 2: Oh sure, well, I was gonna say a bad word.
Speaker 2: Dudes like us, what do we know? We're normal dudes, Right, Well,
Speaker 2: we would assume that, Yeah, we would assume that the
Speaker 2: guys are saying, I'm just better than the.
Speaker 3: Guy okay likes well for instance, one that sticks out
Speaker 3: to me that just came to my mind talking about
Speaker 3: that that Florida game, right, Okay, yeah, that game. I mean, yes,
Speaker 3: they won that because of the players, but that place
Speaker 3: was nuts and I felt, I truly felt that at
Speaker 3: the end of that game, Florida got rattled by the
Speaker 3: crowd that it got so loud in there that there
Speaker 3: was no way you could concentrate, and they were throwing
Speaker 3: crappy passes and things happened, and Arizona comes back and
Speaker 3: wins that game. A couple of those dupe games. I
Speaker 3: think of the you know, there was the Matt muelboch
Speaker 3: Uh you know, where he'd saved a pass under the
Speaker 3: basket and all that stuff and they you know, they
Speaker 3: beat and they beat Ducas ninety one or ninety two.
Speaker 3: There was the eighty eight Duke Festival Classic game. You
Speaker 3: know a few of those games where you feel like, okay,
Speaker 3: the crowd had as much to do with that as
Speaker 3: the players on the court or close to it.
Speaker 2: Right, they helped, They helped, it helped, right, I think
Speaker 2: that's the best. Right they were helped in on twelfth man,
Speaker 2: six round or whatever they got. No, I don't disagree
Speaker 2: with that, because it's hard to ignore better better then
Speaker 2: than not that, right.
Speaker 3: You know? I think of that game where a zone
Speaker 3: was living went by eighteen points to U. C. L A.
Speaker 3: You know, and remember that the sealing was that's the
Speaker 3: seline start of my game, you know where you hit
Speaker 3: the hit the shot from the top of the floor. No,
Speaker 3: I think that was a different game. That was a
Speaker 3: different game. But anyway, they came back from eighteen points.
Speaker 2: Now it was the chase buddingers foot stomp. Yeah, they
Speaker 2: were down by eighteen. They come back and beat Houston.
Speaker 2: But it took it took h It took something like
Speaker 2: that like that to get the crowd tack right right.
Speaker 2: And Arizona, let me say this, they're they've been there forever.
Speaker 2: They know basketball, right, They're not dummies. They they know
Speaker 2: what they're seeing.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Uh, they're a little fickle, but but they're there very
Speaker 2: but they're there.
Speaker 3: They're very Yeah, but uh, you know so. But you know,
Speaker 3: it's I think it's a it's a thing where you know,
Speaker 3: it's gonna change. It's gonna have to change not only
Speaker 3: Arizona Football's approach to league play, it's gonna have to
Speaker 3: change the fans approach. Sure, right first, you know, if
Speaker 3: fans go follow them on the road, right, you got
Speaker 3: to be prepared to be in some really possible environments.
Speaker 2: You talked to them a little about that yesterday. I
Speaker 2: think you did. Uh so, And I'm gonna be the
Speaker 2: whitest Steve Hate Arizona's go ahead. Uh, did you know
Speaker 2: they don't travel? Well, it's the it's the plane and
Speaker 2: the team, right, and that's who because you know you've
Speaker 2: been on one of those as well.
Speaker 3: No, here's the deal. Arizona fans travel well to the
Speaker 3: LA schools because well, they have a lot of right there,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of fans there. Plus it's it was,
Speaker 3: it's always been easy to get there. But beyond that, well,
Speaker 3: you're right, Arizona doesn't travel.
Speaker 2: And you know that football and you know this because
Speaker 2: you cover the basketball time or two. Uh, Arizona when
Speaker 2: they go to Stanford, they go to LA or they travel, Well.
Speaker 3: No, they don't.
Speaker 2: They have a lot of alums in those places, right, right,
Speaker 2: they have a lot of lums yeah, who buy tickets.
Speaker 3: To buy tickets and go yeah. Yeah, And that's going
Speaker 3: to be a big difference. And there's a difference at
Speaker 3: these schools because they're not. There aren't a lot of
Speaker 3: Arizona lums in in Waco, exactly. No, that's it.
Speaker 2: That's it, because they're not. They're not in Waco, they're
Speaker 2: not in Lawrence, they're not in Lubbock, in Manhattan, they're
Speaker 2: not still Water and that's a big difference because in
Speaker 2: San Francisco, there are in Salt Lake, there are in
Speaker 2: the West. They state West right for the jumps.
Speaker 3: Right, I don't think that. I don't think you can
Speaker 3: underestimate how big of a of an impact all that's
Speaker 3: going to have when Arizona does hit the road, which
Speaker 3: is why you know, you and I went through the
Speaker 3: schedule and we picked them losing four games. We picked
Speaker 3: them losing four games on the road, you know, all
Speaker 3: on the road. I think I might have had them
Speaker 3: in nine and three. I don't remember, but you know,
Speaker 3: but we had them losing in Central Florida, had them
Speaker 3: losing I think at TCU Utah and in Kansas State.
Speaker 3: Maybe not. TCU was the one. I thought, Okay, maybe
Speaker 3: they can win that one. But I don't see how.
Speaker 3: I don't see how they go win at Kansas State
Speaker 3: in Utah. I you know, maybe they they're they're good.
Speaker 3: They're so good that we don't know how good they
Speaker 3: are that they go win one of those two games,
Speaker 3: and if they win both, Steve, I'm never gonna hit
Speaker 3: the ground when I come walking.
Speaker 2: In well, wait a second, wait a second, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: use some of the Jay Gonzales theory. Okay, so they
Speaker 2: win the two and we talked to the media, talked
Speaker 2: about that with with Gonzales today and and a keen Right,
Speaker 2: if that happens, now you know why it happens. Why
Speaker 2: they get beat in games they shouldn't get beat because
Speaker 2: what do you just say, You're gonna come on and
Speaker 2: clay either think a lot of yourself, right, I guess
Speaker 2: what happens after that boom? You get your hittude?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, but you know, for counting wins based on
Speaker 3: you know, looking at the schedule, now, it's good and
Speaker 3: those are two that we mostly have as losses. That
Speaker 3: they win those two games, there's a margin for error
Speaker 3: down the road.
Speaker 2: It beats the alternative. Dere's how it does. And then
Speaker 2: you do kind of think, oh, look at me, look
Speaker 2: at me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess you say you'd rather be
Speaker 3: four or more than too and two? Right? No, no,
Speaker 3: I'll give you.
Speaker 2: I'll give you this because we were there too. Where
Speaker 2: to go, slink? Where's the first two rounds in selk
Speaker 2: before they went to lay You're thinking, okay, we got
Speaker 2: through the first two rounds, which was great because you
Speaker 2: hadn't gotten through Tommy suffered, and then you're thinking highly
Speaker 2: of yourself and then you got Clemson. Then okay, and
Speaker 2: what do you and what are you thinking when you
Speaker 2: got Clemson?
Speaker 3: This is easy? We got this? Yeah right, yeah, we
Speaker 3: shouldn't lose to Clems exactly.
Speaker 2: How many times your lifetime?
Speaker 3: What's the title of that all the time? Here we
Speaker 3: go again? Yeah, something like that, because you know how
Speaker 3: many times you saying stuff different day.
Speaker 2: How many times you have to get hit in the
Speaker 2: head to understand, Oh, we went through it again, we
Speaker 2: did it again.
Speaker 3: I know, I know.
Speaker 2: There's no pill for it.
Speaker 3: There is no pill for it. I mean, you just
Speaker 3: gotta you know, you gotta suck it up and go do.
Speaker 2: It and just say I'm tired of this.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and that's part of the conversation I had
Speaker 3: with with with with a keen of today. And I
Speaker 3: really want to play that clip for people as soon
Speaker 3: as we can get that in there, because you'll understand,
Speaker 3: you know, from where we sit, or from where I
Speaker 3: sit as a as a fan, you know, I'm I'm
Speaker 3: skeptical of this. I'm excited for this coming season. I
Speaker 3: have expectations of this coming season, but I'm also like,
Speaker 3: what always happens is this, and what always happens is
Speaker 3: that Arizona doesn't have a good season after a good season, right,
Speaker 3: and so we'll see what happens. But I like what
Speaker 3: a Keina had to say about that because he was
Speaker 3: here for two of those, right, and and it was
Speaker 3: he had an interesting perspective on it. And uh, we'll
Speaker 3: play the clip. I might have to explain it after
Speaker 3: the clip or I'm gonna want you to hear it. Okay,
Speaker 3: we're gonna take our next break. Sorry, we didn't get
Speaker 3: the Brent Brennan on this seg this segment, we're hoping
Speaker 3: to have him ready for the next segment, but we're
Speaker 3: going from segment to segment. If it looks like we're
Speaker 3: not gonna have him next segment, maybe are you ready
Speaker 3: for breaking news?
Speaker 11: Yeah? I got the Olympics.
Speaker 3: Okay, we might maybe well if if if during the
Speaker 3: break we don't get those clips up, maybe we do
Speaker 3: breaking news and don'tfully have the clips ready for the
Speaker 3: four o'clock second. All right, so stick around, we'll play
Speaker 3: this as it goes. You're right back.
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Speaker 11: All right, before we get into some Olympic news, I
Speaker 11: will start with u of a softball. They signed red
Speaker 11: shirt junior from Oregon State, Kiki Escobar.
Speaker 3: Well position, she's she is second basically, so they have.
Speaker 2: A few new people from all over Washington.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got to catch it from Washington. A picture
Speaker 3: from where I don't remember, Iowa State, I think, or
Speaker 3: something like that. But you know, on top of recruits
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. Again, it's a year to your thing, right,
Speaker 3: you know, for for all the teams you know that
Speaker 3: you've got to turnover in baseball, all the you know,
Speaker 3: all the you know, it's like, okay, let's start the season.
Speaker 3: Whoever's there. That's that's what you talk about, because it's
Speaker 3: a yeah, big deal. All right, Let's.
Speaker 11: Go over to the Olympics for US. Some US news.
Speaker 11: So someone Biles in the US women's gymnastics team brought
Speaker 11: home the gold today.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, Uh, she had a pretty good day. I
Speaker 3: started watching that this morning before I had to leave
Speaker 3: for some interviews and stuff.
Speaker 11: I haven't been able to watch much of it, but
Speaker 11: I just see like clips here and there how they've done.
Speaker 3: And man, there was a brazil uh gymnasts who took
Speaker 3: a fall off the uneven bars, one of those where
Speaker 3: she you know, went up and flipped up in the
Speaker 3: air and she just missed the bar, hit the bad hard.
Speaker 3: It's amazing that they do.
Speaker 2: And then that's the same thing, the timing and all
Speaker 2: that and if you're off crap.
Speaker 3: There were a couple I think in the in the
Speaker 3: men's yesterday, you know, and the Chinese are always really good,
Speaker 3: you know, the men's Chinese are always really good. And
Speaker 3: a couple of their guys, you know, fell off the
Speaker 3: high bar, which.
Speaker 2: Well USA's guy, the guy, the roper, I can't remember.
Speaker 2: He's from the good the best guy had a tough
Speaker 2: first day. Yeah, but they still qualified and then they finished,
Speaker 2: and then they got the Bronx got Theron. But yeah,
Speaker 2: and then you get hurt like crazy.
Speaker 3: Man, can you imagine, you know, I remember, you're gonna laugh.
Speaker 3: The first sport that I covered as a reporter, well,
Speaker 3: I wasn't even report yet. I was just a sports
Speaker 3: a part time sports correspondent, basically an intern covered high
Speaker 3: school sports. I had to cover high school gymnastics. Remember
Speaker 3: the first gymnastics meet I went to. I couldn't believe
Speaker 3: how built, Oh the boys high school gymnasts were. I mean,
Speaker 3: they had incredible body and I'm like, wait, you don't
Speaker 3: they didn't even look like they were in high school, right,
Speaker 3: and they were good. You know, Yoichi Tomida we've had
Speaker 3: on the show, and he you know, he can't he
Speaker 3: had come he came to Tuson around that time and he,
Speaker 3: you know, he was coaching, and man, they were really.
Speaker 11: Good US women's rugby. They fell twenty four to twelve
Speaker 11: to New Zealand, but they did win the bronze medal
Speaker 11: and a stunning comeback against Australia.
Speaker 3: Today, I watched that play. It showed up on my
Speaker 3: on my Twitter feed, and there was one of those
Speaker 3: you know where they pile up and then they get
Speaker 3: the ball and tossed it and this US woman just
Speaker 3: trucked trucked an Australian tackler and just and busted out
Speaker 3: into the open. It was a long run. It was
Speaker 3: like you know, in I don't know what the length
Speaker 3: of the field is in a rugby field, but it
Speaker 3: was like it would have been like an eighty yard
Speaker 3: run on a football field and scored make they kicked
Speaker 3: the the extra point and they win the game and
Speaker 3: they get the bronze. Awesome. It was a great play.
Speaker 3: Go look for it on Twitter because you go, Okay, somebody,
Speaker 3: somebody needs to put her in their backfield and college
Speaker 3: football team.
Speaker 11: I saw something on Twitter yesterday about the Cowboys like, oh,
Speaker 11: the need to sign her. She's she's built.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she was fast.
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, she was fast.
Speaker 3: It was great, it was it was a great play
Speaker 3: to watch.
Speaker 11: Sucker. Men's quarterfinal matchup has been set. They're going to
Speaker 11: kick off Friday against excuse me, Gus Morocco at nine
Speaker 11: am Eastern time. They were able to get there from
Speaker 11: defeating Guinea three today.
Speaker 3: Okay, there you go, Stave. Men's soccer is in it.
Speaker 3: I you know, I thought maybe you know more, but
Speaker 3: I thought this was the men's national team. It's not.
Speaker 3: It's a it's a I guess. Olympic soccer is basically
Speaker 3: twenty three U. Yeah, and I was told this and
Speaker 3: that you're allowed to have one person above the age limit,
Speaker 3: but otherwise it's the twenty three team. Yeah.
Speaker 2: They they place. I don't even know where they're playing.
Speaker 2: They must be playing so far in Paris, but away
Speaker 2: from Paris. So many, so many teams and not enough
Speaker 2: about facilities. Yeah yeah, cool, cool.
Speaker 11: It doesn't say where they're where they're playing at.
Speaker 2: You have men's volleyball.
Speaker 11: Let's see men's volleyball. Yeah they did. They lost?
Speaker 2: Yeah the chase fighting, yeah, change chase fighting was that
Speaker 2: the Netherlands.
Speaker 3: Who then lost two one two nothing? But was it
Speaker 3: to zero to zero. So they got smoked, right, they
Speaker 3: got smoked. Just yesterday, I was saying, how great they
Speaker 3: looked at How is anybody going to beat this game? Jay?
Speaker 3: That tells me how much.
Speaker 2: No, Jay, let's remember it's July thirtieth. Football starts in
Speaker 2: a month.
Speaker 3: Stay in your length.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I shouldn't be giving you advice. But
Speaker 2: just because the team played well one doesn't mean they're
Speaker 2: gonna play well the next week. I've told you this
Speaker 2: many times.
Speaker 3: Well, I watched him, and I made the comment to
Speaker 3: my son, Adam, who follows all the sports, right, I said,
Speaker 3: I said, don't believe he knows. My daughter said that.
Speaker 3: I say, he's six seven, got these long arms, he
Speaker 3: can jump out of the building. Said, I don't know
Speaker 3: how how you beat that? And she goes, everybody's got
Speaker 3: one of those. No, she's right, Rachel, Yeah, very smart,
Speaker 3: your dad. Everybody has one of those. All the good
Speaker 3: teams have that.
Speaker 2: And she's exactly right. I mean, yeah, yeah, and they
Speaker 2: have maybe two or three of them.
Speaker 3: Well, she kind of added that the other guy on
Speaker 3: his team isn't really really isn't all that good, which
Speaker 3: I don't know that. I don't know she knows it
Speaker 3: more than better than I.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's not they became a little bit qualifiers.
Speaker 2: It must be quite decent. So you went from really
Speaker 2: high and liking to see to the other guy's not
Speaker 2: so good.
Speaker 3: I don't know about.
Speaker 2: But you can pick how you go on too really good.
Speaker 3: I had fun. He was really good. I had fun
Speaker 3: watching it. I was sound Greg and Ryan yesterday. It
Speaker 3: was really cool because you know, you know, they showed
Speaker 3: his they did his bio, they showed him in his
Speaker 3: Arizona basketball and then you know the Rockets basketball and
Speaker 3: all that stuff. Yeah. No, he's a good story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got to do he's got to win it
Speaker 2: or be get a medal from it, making it a
Speaker 2: really good story. I've tried to track him down before
Speaker 2: all this, before he left.
Speaker 3: He didn't respond to me.
Speaker 11: I wasn't here, by the way, said Ryan yesterday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Ryan, Oh Ryan Donnar. Oh yeah, I guess yesterday. Okay,
Speaker 3: I just wanted to correct you cause you were wonder
Speaker 3: it wasn't that Ryan.
Speaker 11: Let's see basketball, men's and women's. They both fell on
Speaker 11: their open round matchups.
Speaker 2: The three on three ok Jimmer for Dead lost to
Speaker 2: whom Wow, that's a grimmer for that team. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: dude's good. Well he was, I don't know. They had
Speaker 2: three on three.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, yeah, yeah, I know it was for sure.
Speaker 2: Well well well you were at the final four.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they we saw him plack, they saw him play.
Speaker 2: They were doing. That's kind of what they were gonna do.
Speaker 3: Right, and he can still shoot.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah once you shoot. Well maybe today he
Speaker 2: went dead. Who knows, but wow, that they lost.
Speaker 11: It's right, the one uh something else that just came
Speaker 11: through water polo US men's they got their first win today.
Speaker 3: Okay, I know nothing about water polo. It's that that
Speaker 3: I know. What I know is that that has to
Speaker 3: be a really hard sport. I mean waiting, you know,
Speaker 3: in the water that long and doing all the things
Speaker 3: that they do, and you know, I mean getting dunked
Speaker 3: underwater and having people grab your shorts and pulling you
Speaker 3: down and all that kind of stuff that just can't
Speaker 3: be easy.
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen a fat swimmer, no, out of
Speaker 2: shape swimmer.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I swim no, technically I'm not. I
Speaker 3: get in the water exactly, but it's a that's an
Speaker 3: you know, you look at some of these sports right,
Speaker 3: And this is what we're talking about, Steve. When you're
Speaker 3: talking about these guys work as hard as as everybody else.
Speaker 3: You look at sports like, you know, uh, water polo,
Speaker 3: I think, I think in the Winter Olympics. I think
Speaker 3: of cross country skiers, right, marathoners. I was going to go,
Speaker 3: you know, the weightlifters and and you know, wrestlers, And.
Speaker 2: How are you going to tell them that they don't
Speaker 2: work as hard as.
Speaker 3: Right, and or they don't deserve as much as the
Speaker 3: other guy? Right? I understand that, But some of these
Speaker 3: sports you look at you go, how do you do that?
Speaker 3: And then you know, how do you prepare for a
Speaker 3: for a uh, you know, the Olympics for something like that,
Speaker 3: and that can be over in a flash, you know. Someoney's
Speaker 3: talking about. Let's say let's say you're one hundred meter freestyler.
Speaker 3: That's your only event, right, you trained for four years
Speaker 3: or however long you train for get into the Olympics.
Speaker 3: It's and you're losing the first heat, the first heat,
Speaker 3: you don't qualify for the next heat, and you're done
Speaker 3: in what fifty seconds however long it takes them to
Speaker 3: swim one hundred meters. It's like man, how hard is
Speaker 3: that to go through?
Speaker 2: Well, I'll give you called the first run of the
Speaker 2: NCAA tournament. You know yo, yoh no no no no
Speaker 2: no no no, yes, yes, no no no no no.
Speaker 3: If you want to go there, you can go there.
Speaker 2: But I'm talking about teams that are seated sixteen, right,
Speaker 2: and they're happy to be there.
Speaker 3: Well, some are just happy to be there than others
Speaker 3: who are seated low and they think they should have
Speaker 3: been seated better than they get, be correct.
Speaker 2: But I'm thinking the guys who play the Arizona's or
Speaker 2: the Dukes in the first round. You're thinking, well, they're there,
Speaker 2: they had fun, right, right, No, you.
Speaker 3: Went to a place like yeah, well where you go.
Speaker 2: But it's like that, you get there and you're happy, happy,
Speaker 2: and then you get there.
Speaker 3: Oh no yeah yeah, and then you know when and
Speaker 3: when I watch the Olympics, I think of those, you know,
Speaker 3: because sure you got the you got you know, the
Speaker 3: basketball team, and those guys are all making millions of dollars.
Speaker 3: Even the gymnasts, you know, like Simone Biles that you know,
Speaker 3: they got endorsements and stuff like that, and there's a
Speaker 3: lot more to it than just gaining the gold medal.
Speaker 3: But there's so many of these athletes who are there
Speaker 3: just to get a medal and it's been their lifelong
Speaker 3: dream and if they don't hit it, what, you know,
Speaker 3: how do you take that? You know, how do you
Speaker 3: go on with your athletic career or whatever. And some
Speaker 3: of some of those people, that stuff's got to be devastating.
Speaker 11: I mean, it's not like you know, baseball or football. Yeah,
Speaker 11: you're you're playing those like several months a year.
Speaker 3: Well, if you watch okay, if you watch that clip
Speaker 3: of the rugby the American woman that you know that
Speaker 3: runs over the player that scores the scores, then they
Speaker 3: cut to the Australian player who I guess it's the
Speaker 3: one that she ran over, and she's in tears. Yeah,
Speaker 3: she's crying, like bawling, you know, because she just got
Speaker 3: trucked and lot and the game got and the game
Speaker 3: was lost. She's you know, she's not going home and
Speaker 3: getting some sort of endorsement deal or something like that.
Speaker 3: It was her dream to win a medal and that plate.
Speaker 3: You know, because of that play, they're not winning a
Speaker 3: medal and it's devastating to her. Sure, you just see
Speaker 3: those things and then you go, oh, man, how hard
Speaker 3: is that? I don't want to be an athlete. I
Speaker 3: give them for the for the hard work, for the
Speaker 3: effort and the hard work.
Speaker 11: Right, you have to keep going out there every you know,
Speaker 11: four years, competing and you know exactly a little bit
Speaker 11: of news out of them. For so the guy on
Speaker 11: my left Dodgers picked up a uh, starting picture of
Speaker 11: Jack claerty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was pretty pretty good. That's decent stats, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean the guys that they're rolling out there right now,
Speaker 3: that the Dodgers rolling out there, you go, what the
Speaker 3: hell you do? You don't have better players than this,
Speaker 3: you know, with the organization that you have, and you
Speaker 3: shouldn't give a billion dollars to one guy, you know,
Speaker 3: go get some guys because that's their pitching is killing them.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3: They're going to win their division. I don't know. I
Speaker 3: don't know if they can beat the Phillies in the
Speaker 3: in the series, not now with the pitching they have.
Speaker 3: Now they're getting Kershaw back, So it's going partly depend
Speaker 3: on how good is Kershaw Tyler last and I was back,
Speaker 3: but you know, Walker Budle or we don't know when
Speaker 3: we're going to see him again, and uh, and the
Speaker 3: and they're they're you know, the other pictures are young.
Speaker 3: I don't see it. I don't see them getting to
Speaker 3: the World Series this year. I just don't think they
Speaker 3: have the pitching and their their their batting order is
Speaker 3: the pits right now, you know the months He's on
Speaker 3: the side, Uh, Mookie Betts is on the side there
Speaker 3: and the bottom of their lineup, Steve is a is
Speaker 3: a slow pitch softball team, it really is. You know,
Speaker 3: it's bad. They on last Friday they struck out fifty
Speaker 3: times against the Houston Nationals. I went and took it.
Speaker 3: I took a look at their batting order. You know
Speaker 3: how they they list their stuff, but they also list
Speaker 3: their batting average. Six of the six of the nine
Speaker 3: guys in the batting in order of batting two forty
Speaker 3: or less, and two of them were under two hundred.
Speaker 3: You can't you can't win a World Series or even
Speaker 3: a get to a World Series with that. And then
Speaker 3: top of which, again, their pitch has been awful. I
Speaker 3: think in the last month they have they've had the
Speaker 3: worst pitching, uh, relief staff, worst bullpen in major leagues,
Speaker 3: like a six something e R a yeah, not that
Speaker 3: I've been following that or painted.
Speaker 11: But they also got Kevin Kiermyer today from the Blue
Speaker 11: Jays for Ryan yarbro.
Speaker 3: Trade, another one of the young pitchers. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 3: that's kind of what happens at this season. That's that
Speaker 3: all I had that. Okay, that's good, good time, good stuff.
Speaker 3: All right, our clips are loaded, Steve, so so we'll
Speaker 3: be able to play the Brent Brannan uh interview you.
Speaker 3: We'll do that at the top of the hour, probably
Speaker 3: later in the segment, depends on how much time we have.
Speaker 3: I think it's about a twelve minute interview, so it'll
Speaker 3: probably eat up the whole segment. So maybe in the
Speaker 3: last segment or of the show. I'll go into the
Speaker 3: stuff that this conversation man is doing a ken because
Speaker 3: it was really interesting stuff I love doing. He's such
Speaker 3: a good guy and more than anything, he remembers my name,
Speaker 3: so that's pretty cool but ideal some people don't you
Speaker 3: got that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's you and me and that guy that guy.
Speaker 3: Exactly. So anyways, so yeah, we will have the Brent
Speaker 3: Brennan interview coming up at the top of the hour.
Speaker 3: We still have Frank Bush we'll talk to him about
Speaker 3: some of the Olympic stuff, but also you'll get into
Speaker 3: some of his his thoughts on on N I L
Speaker 3: and those kinds of things. It just one of those
Speaker 3: guys who seems to know a lot about all of
Speaker 3: that stuff, so we'll we'll do that as well, So
Speaker 3: we hope you stick around for all that. Brent Brennan
Speaker 3: coming up in about five minutes, so stick around.