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Speaker 3: Now you have Henry whos gonna.
Speaker 2: Knock it out of the park with the breaking news.
Speaker 1: This is I on the Ball breaking news on Fox
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Speaker 4: The Friday game against Duke has been announced as a
Speaker 4: white up.
Speaker 3: So white out. You like those gimmick games? No, but
Speaker 3: I remember going to one.
Speaker 5: Derek Williams block shot That was like maybe one of
Speaker 5: the last ones I went to.
Speaker 2: And then okay, so you've been to a number of games, obviously,
Speaker 2: Michael Sander, I'm into a ton of them.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: And they did a poll, I don't know, five years
Speaker 2: ago maybe the greatest game at McHale Ever, yess who
Speaker 2: was guess guest switch game? That would really exactly Washington,
Speaker 2: You're exactly exactly. That's not even top ten overall. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what, only the kids know what happened yesterday. Yeah, No,
Speaker 2: that was the shot. Were you here for them shot?
Speaker 2: Probably not?
Speaker 3: I was? It was?
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 5: That was a weird moment too, was I'm trying to
Speaker 5: remember exactly where I was. I was in the upper
Speaker 5: I was covering it, and I was up there, like
Speaker 5: you know, in the top not the top deck, but
Speaker 5: the concourse, the concourse area. That's right, that's I'm trying
Speaker 5: to trying to say. So I think I don't even
Speaker 5: know if we were videoing it. I can't remember exactly,
Speaker 5: but I know I was in the building when it
Speaker 5: happened because I can still see it happening. But yeah,
Speaker 5: I was there for that game. So was that not
Speaker 5: one of the top couple.
Speaker 2: Because nobody who's Henry's age knew that existence?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, what year?
Speaker 2: Was it?
Speaker 3: Three or four?
Speaker 5: Probably it was fort was Kerr was out right?
Speaker 3: No, No, he was on that team. Yeah.
Speaker 4: The college football playoff rankings came out last night. Oregon
Speaker 4: remains in the number one spot and Boise State has
Speaker 4: taken over every Big twelve school, so they are the
Speaker 4: overall number four seed right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they gotta buy yep, you gotta buy well by
Speaker 2: U has screwed.
Speaker 5: The Booch didn't help by losing no to Kansas. So
Speaker 5: they play they play a su this week.
Speaker 2: So give me the rundown real quick, because I haven't
Speaker 2: paid attention. But there's still a lot of brew ha
Speaker 2: ha about it. Got a good word brew haha.
Speaker 3: Go ahead. Do you have the list?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Okay?
Speaker 4: Oregon one, Ohio State two, Texas three, Penn State for
Speaker 4: Indiana five not there name six, Alabama seven, Miami eight,
Speaker 4: almost nine, Georgia ten, Tennessee eleven, Boise State twelve.
Speaker 2: Okay, so of those twelve, Oregon good enough to win it?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, okay, Who's who?
Speaker 7: Who?
Speaker 3: Would you said? Who's is Ohio State too? This year?
Speaker 3: A close game on the road.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're probably gonna play again in the big.
Speaker 2: Time somewhere somewhere. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Isn't Oregon guaranteed already?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: They clinched the ten champions get.
Speaker 3: Into the championship game. That's gonna be fun.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's gonna be an interesting month of December
Speaker 5: for sure, and then I guess into January two.
Speaker 6: College basketball.
Speaker 4: Last night, number fifteen Marquette defeated number six Purdue seventy six.
Speaker 3: To fifty eight. Okay.
Speaker 6: In the NBA.
Speaker 4: The Celtics defeated the gap the Calves one to one,
Speaker 4: seventeen to ten, the Calves undefeated season at fifteen in a.
Speaker 3: I watched a lot of that game.
Speaker 5: Boston went crazy from three point land in that one too,
Speaker 5: so they were just all hitting. They're deep shots, and
Speaker 5: finally Cleveland loses a game. It's They've been pretty pretty
Speaker 5: amazing this year so far. Huh fifteen straight, wasn't it?
Speaker 5: Yep seconds and their coaches one of Steve Kerr's former assistants,
Speaker 5: Kenny Atkinson, so good for him. Warriors had the still
Speaker 5: have the longest opening of the season winning streaks, I
Speaker 5: think like twenty four or whatever it was when Luke
Speaker 5: Walton was there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: The Arizona women's basketball will face NAU tonight at six
Speaker 4: pm at NAU.
Speaker 3: Okay, well they're going up there to play him.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 3: Remember Luke went up there one time. Never went again. Yeah,
Speaker 3: my have before your time to the NAU.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: That was the walk up sky home away he went
Speaker 3: up and I'm not going back there. You had to drive.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there's no good restaurants probably probably no where,
Speaker 2: and that's.
Speaker 5: They've made the drag Nau down here, and they beat
Speaker 5: them fifty times in a row.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: Arizona Athletics announced last night that for the Zona Zoo
Speaker 4: there will be a camp out on my Kale Thursday night,
Speaker 4: and the first six hundred Zona Zoo members who stay
Speaker 4: overnight will be given a wristband Friday morning that lets
Speaker 4: you get into the Duke game before anyone else.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is the quiz, Henry, Are you gonna be
Speaker 2: silly enough to do this?
Speaker 4: No, me and my friends already agreed when not to.
Speaker 3: But you have your tickets? Yeah I have a ticket.
Speaker 3: Yeah you don't need this.
Speaker 5: They're taking a page out of the Dukes. Yeah, Easchewskiville
Speaker 5: or whatever.
Speaker 3: But I was there. It was kind of fun.
Speaker 2: It was kind of funny and kind of cool at
Speaker 2: the same time. A bunch of a bunch of smart dudes,
Speaker 2: smart smart people out in the It was you. You know, what,
Speaker 2: did you ever go somewhere that you just want to
Speaker 2: experience the what all the hype was about?
Speaker 5: But of the Yankee, I got another story probably shouldn't
Speaker 5: tell in the radio, But yeah, I've had a few
Speaker 5: times where I just wanted to be there early really early,
Speaker 5: like even the day before, just to kind of see it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what I went to Duke for.
Speaker 2: It cost you whatever, but I went and I'm thinking, Okay,
Speaker 2: maybe I could have done something, but I had to go,
Speaker 2: and you you saw all that. You know again, they
Speaker 2: did it at Stanford. They do it at a few
Speaker 2: other places. Okay, okay, what's a big deal where.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a good news story?
Speaker 5: You know, I'm sure the stations will be out there
Speaker 5: doing live shots at ten o'clock the night before.
Speaker 3: What time do they start.
Speaker 6: The camp out?
Speaker 4: Yea, they think it starts at nine they open.
Speaker 5: Yeah, perfect, that's why they did it nine so they
Speaker 5: can be on the ten o'clock news.
Speaker 3: So that should be fun. That's all I got.
Speaker 2: Okay, did we talk about what did I talk about before?
Speaker 2: The women's travel ball? Yeah? Yeah, and I didn't. I
Speaker 2: didn't look at that story. But you know, it was
Speaker 2: a story enough for them to write about it. Unless
Speaker 2: they're trying to be funny, I don't know. Was it
Speaker 2: just a bit did you read it?
Speaker 4: I read a little bit of it.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The volleyball and women's volleyball and women's basketball team have
Speaker 4: been finding difficulty traveling around. I didn't get to the
Speaker 4: basketball part, but the volleyball team they were in Cincinnati
Speaker 4: and they couldn't find any flights to West Virginia, so
Speaker 4: they had to take a bus there.
Speaker 2: I wonder how far they had to take that bus too.
Speaker 2: Trivon's a weeknd in the road, and then the basketball
Speaker 2: to Morgantown. Well, welcome to the world of this Big twelve.
Speaker 5: Good luck. Yeah, yeah, I'm looking. There's a story on
Speaker 5: Airson a desert asy, desert swarm.
Speaker 3: That's what That's what we were talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, Yeah, And that's going to be the case
Speaker 2: for a lot of the things. And unfortunately that's just
Speaker 2: how it is for the women's athletics and and the
Speaker 2: the the sports where you're not the basketball team or
Speaker 2: the football team.
Speaker 5: You know, it's gonna be crazy. It's gonna be difficult
Speaker 5: and a big adjustment.
Speaker 3: Just all around.
Speaker 5: I mean football, you're right, Football gets chartered and basketball
Speaker 5: gets charters.
Speaker 3: But that's about it.
Speaker 5: Everyone else is gonna have to deal with Tuesday games
Speaker 5: and trying to get back to school occasionally. It's going
Speaker 5: to be interesting, interesting to see how it all plays out.
Speaker 5: And you know, this first year is going to be
Speaker 5: a big test for everybody to get used to it.
Speaker 3: Okay, what else that's it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, that's fine, that's fine. There was nothing else
Speaker 2: that was really nothing else because we could do we
Speaker 2: could be s here, I can be.
Speaker 5: I can talk about the Yeah, tell me the Pro
Speaker 5: Football Hall of Fame semi finalists, and there's a couple
Speaker 5: Arizona connections there. Actually not going to be U of
Speaker 5: A but certainly a s U with Terrell Terrell Suggs,
Speaker 5: who everyone thinks is going to be a first team,
Speaker 5: first ballot, I should say Hall of Famer. I had
Speaker 5: a great career with a couple of teams, obviously Baltimore,
Speaker 5: but he was he was amazing. I remember seeing him
Speaker 5: in high school at Chandler Hamilton. He came down here
Speaker 5: and played against I don't know, Flowing Wells or one
Speaker 5: of the schools and just unstoppable on defense and offense.
Speaker 5: Terrell Suggs, Oh yeah, ye had big dude, big guy,
Speaker 5: and he had a good, you know, great career at
Speaker 5: a s U. The big names they're eli manning.
Speaker 2: Things like that, and you know, you know those dudes
Speaker 2: that you get to see and see. Yeah, that dude's
Speaker 2: a pro. That guy, you know, you can tell right away.
Speaker 5: Well, did you guys talk about Kadem winning the Great Cup?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yesterday, No we didn't because I was doing the
Speaker 2: doing the break news. I'm not even talking about.
Speaker 3: I mean Kadeem.
Speaker 5: You know those kind of guy when you saw them
Speaker 5: in high school as a whole, Right, this is this
Speaker 5: is a different type of athlete.
Speaker 2: Did you and you and he was part of the
Speaker 2: bleak Martinez stuff?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 8: He was good.
Speaker 2: He was good too, but you didn't come on, you
Speaker 2: didn't think that he was going to be a pro
Speaker 2: and then do really well at Stanford.
Speaker 5: No, he he blossomed. He you know, he was smart
Speaker 5: and he was good. Yeah, and just a great athlete.
Speaker 5: We had him, I think as what we had used
Speaker 5: to do, like Players of the Week and things like that.
Speaker 5: I think they still do. But we had both those
Speaker 5: guys multiple times through Cdo and then Blake I think
Speaker 5: wound up going to Santa Rita. I think maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 5: One of the guys kind of went to a different
Speaker 5: high school at the end.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it wasn't him. No, No, I don't think so,
Speaker 3: I don't think.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure anyway, they were you know, head and
Speaker 5: shoulders above the competition.
Speaker 2: Right, right, So there's a couple more things. Kate and
Speaker 2: Clark won't play in that league, that unrival.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know she's going to concert on golf. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I saw them doing I saw that.
Speaker 2: I saw that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then the Jets owner suggested benching Roger that that
Speaker 2: organization you you.
Speaker 5: Can of you of a guys, Woody Johnson, you have alum?
Speaker 5: Is he is he an owner?
Speaker 3: What year is this?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: He's been the owner for years?
Speaker 2: But what years old? These guys a long time ago?
Speaker 2: Did you have No?
Speaker 5: I'm sure tried. Not me, okay, but I think others
Speaker 5: have have met with him.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, that'd be the guys who go to Hey,
Speaker 2: mister mister Jett, we.
Speaker 3: Need to look like to name name the stadium for us? Yes,
Speaker 3: John J.
Speaker 2: Johnson Jet Stadium Johnson. Yeah, yeah, where you need meds
Speaker 2: to go?
Speaker 3: What the game? Something like that? Yeah? What else were
Speaker 3: we talking about?
Speaker 2: Oh? I know, let's answer some questions because you gotta
Speaker 2: more questions. Yeah, the same guy. Because you found that
Speaker 2: your story and your story and my story were interesting.
Speaker 2: Do I here it is? Okay? Uh, this is very interesting.
Speaker 2: Those were interesting questions answers. Who was your favorite writer
Speaker 2: and his favorite newscaster? Your favorite you better say me no,
Speaker 2: I'm just chicky newscaster. Higgs wasn't Hicks? Was he not
Speaker 2: an intern for you? He was with Dan Ryan, Dan Ryan.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Local, like for a local sports guy, believe it or not.
Speaker 5: Keith Olberman I used to. I mean, he and I
Speaker 5: are like the exact same age, so we kind of
Speaker 5: grew up the same time. When he was a local
Speaker 5: guy in Los Angeles. His shows weren't fantastically funny creative,
Speaker 5: you know. He kind of obviously branched off to do
Speaker 5: news and he did Sports Center for all those years
Speaker 5: with Dan Patrick. But he was great as a local
Speaker 5: guy that I I kind of looked up to. What
Speaker 5: was the question again, No writers?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, not the writer part.
Speaker 3: You know, it was great too.
Speaker 5: Again in my younger years, Brian Gumpel was also a
Speaker 5: local sports guy in Los Angeles. He was a great
Speaker 5: got to watch you know. Obviously Bob Costas the Joe
Speaker 5: Bucks of the world, the play by play guys. I mean,
Speaker 5: there's been so many good ones. I mean that's kind
Speaker 5: of what really influenced me when I was really young,
Speaker 5: like in high school. The people that I would listen
Speaker 5: to in the San Francisco area, you know, my friends
Speaker 5: and I. We still talk about some of those those guys.
Speaker 3: Can I ask you what your dad did?
Speaker 5: He worked in like the electronics injury industry.
Speaker 3: Okay, so he was. He was also a lawyer.
Speaker 2: So I'm glad you said that, because did he get
Speaker 2: disappointed when you wanted to become what you were?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 3: He loved it.
Speaker 5: You should have seen and when I when I first started,
Speaker 5: you know, I was like in I was twenty two
Speaker 5: and I was on TV.
Speaker 3: And mom and dad would come because that's my son.
Speaker 5: I have my face on a billboard on a bus
Speaker 5: and so my mom, would you take pictures of that
Speaker 5: as a bus drove by. They I think they got
Speaker 5: a kick out of it. And I got to take
Speaker 5: them to a few games. I remember I took my dad.
Speaker 5: Probably shouldn't say this, but I had him in the
Speaker 5: press box one time.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 2: It was my guest, you'll have no more credentials for you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know how he got in. He just had
Speaker 2: one of our extra credentials. And here's my father sitting
Speaker 2: next to me. So that was I was proud. It was,
Speaker 2: it was great.
Speaker 3: He was proud. Sure, my Uh did you ever bring
Speaker 3: a relative up?
Speaker 5: No? No kids, No, no, really, yeah no there was.
Speaker 5: I mean I would I guess, you know Toros games
Speaker 5: and things like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to subject them to the Toros games punishment.
Speaker 3: Sorry, but for me, you're talking.
Speaker 2: About that, You're talking about your dad for me, and
Speaker 2: I just lost my train of thought as usual. Uh uh.
Speaker 5: I was just gonna say, I mean, I made I was.
Speaker 5: They were proud, and you know, I was just getting started.
Speaker 5: And my especially my mom, you know, just was she'd
Speaker 5: walk into the stores with me and she'd introduce me
Speaker 5: to this is.
Speaker 3: A guy he's on Channel six.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so my kind of funny story for that. And
Speaker 2: I don't know this is me, but what the hell?
Speaker 2: So my youngest son, who's you know, twenty six now,
Speaker 2: but he's maybe four or five years ago, and you know,
Speaker 2: the paper's closed, and and you know, I'm trying to
Speaker 2: figure out what I'm gonna do. You know, I have
Speaker 2: to write my books or whatever. Just you know how
Speaker 2: chaotic k he gets, and you're kind of like, what
Speaker 2: am I gonna do? YadA YadA. He said that don't
Speaker 2: you wish you would have become like a like a
Speaker 2: doctor or attorney and blah blah blah, I said, Trey,
Speaker 2: I said, those dudes want to be me because I
Speaker 2: get to do what I get to do. I would
Speaker 2: have never met the people I get to met, do
Speaker 2: the things I've done if I would have been that, right,
Speaker 2: you know, I might be broken son, But I had
Speaker 2: a great life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I agree.
Speaker 5: I mean I that's kind of why we both stuck
Speaker 5: around so long doing what we'd like to do. And
Speaker 5: it was fun and every day was difference. That was
Speaker 5: how I looked at It's like you just didn't know.
Speaker 5: You kind of knew there were going to be things
Speaker 5: going on, but every day I had some type of
Speaker 5: breaking news.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you, though, and we got to go
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Speaker 2: any point or maybe a time or two, or maybe
Speaker 2: not at all, did you say, God, I don't want
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Speaker 3: Oh? Probably?
Speaker 5: There were a few, mostly is when I didn't feel good, literally,
Speaker 5: like you know, I had a sore throw like should
Speaker 5: I go in today? Where to call someone to replace me?
Speaker 5: But I mean I really liked it. I liked to
Speaker 5: go in. I liked the people. You know, I enjoyed.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed the job for most of my time there.
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Speaker 1: Steve Rivera, He's got his Eye on the Ball on
Speaker 1: Tucson's sports station, Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to my on the Ball hero Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera here, Dave Silver, I
Speaker 2: am now on the phone. We have Aaron Torres Love
Speaker 2: having erin tours on the show. How are you, Aaron?
Speaker 8: I'm well, fellas.
Speaker 2: How we doing We're doing fine. Hey, it's a big
Speaker 2: week here in Tucson. I mean you may have noticed.
Speaker 8: I've heard. Yeah, who are you guys? You got a
Speaker 8: charity exhibition this weekend? Or what? I forget? Who's coming
Speaker 8: it down?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Slow Friday night?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Are you gonna come down?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 8: I won't be there on Friday. I will actually be
Speaker 8: seeing Duke next week in Vegas. They played Kansas next
Speaker 8: week in Vegas. I have family that I spend time
Speaker 8: with during the Thanksgiving holidays, so it kind of worked
Speaker 8: out pretty conveniently. So I'll see Duke. You know, I'm
Speaker 8: gonna see Let me put it this way, I'll see
Speaker 8: the remnants of Duke after Arizona picks them apart and
Speaker 8: leaves them for dead on Friday night.
Speaker 3: That makes two of us.
Speaker 2: Because I said this last week before they went and
Speaker 2: played Wisconsin that they were going to knock off Duke
Speaker 2: at home. Nothing's changed for me, nothing's changed, So I
Speaker 2: agree with you.
Speaker 8: Yeah, excuse me. Listen, Friday night was an awesome night
Speaker 8: at college hoops. Not for Arizona fans obviously, but I
Speaker 8: think what it reaffirmed to me it's really hard to
Speaker 8: win on the road in major college sports. Listen, we
Speaker 8: talk about it every Saturday in college football, but just
Speaker 8: look at college basketball this year, right, is that it
Speaker 8: wasn't just Arizona losing it Wisconsin. It was Alabama preseason
Speaker 8: number two team in the country losing at Perdue. Perdue
Speaker 8: then goes on the road, it loses to Marquette. Last night,
Speaker 8: you know, North Carolina loses to Kansas. There's no shame
Speaker 8: any of these losses. And listen, this isn't college football.
Speaker 8: One loss doesn't shake up your season or you ruin
Speaker 8: your season in any way, shape or form. And so
Speaker 8: I won't be at Michale Center on Friday. But I
Speaker 8: know how great of a venue it is, I know
Speaker 8: how toup of a place it is to play. And
Speaker 8: I also know, respectfully that as good as Duke is,
Speaker 8: they got a lot of young guys that are playing
Speaker 8: their second, third, fourth career college basketball games. And I
Speaker 8: know they're talented, and I know they obviously just played
Speaker 8: a good Kentucky team a few weeks ago. But there's
Speaker 8: a difference between playing a neutral court game in Atlanta
Speaker 8: and playing Arizona in Tucson, and I expect a much
Speaker 8: better effort than Arizona. I don't think the Arizon effort
Speaker 8: was bad on Friday, but I think you'll get a
Speaker 8: better effort. And I agree with you, Steve. I hate
Speaker 8: to ruin the spoil of surprise, but I think Arizona.
Speaker 3: Went on Friday.
Speaker 5: What about Duke's talent, I mean, I'm just looking at
Speaker 5: their roster. I guess both teams have what like total
Speaker 5: ten top one hundred players. We're going to see it
Speaker 5: on the Friday. It's going to be quite a show,
Speaker 5: don't you think.
Speaker 8: Yeah? And I think the thing that stood out with
Speaker 8: Duke is that sometimes, you know, you see a player
Speaker 8: that's labeled to quote unquote McDonald's All American or whatever.
Speaker 8: But the Duke guys, I mean, they.
Speaker 6: Played a bunch.
Speaker 8: Of fifth and sixth year seniors against Kentucky in the
Speaker 8: first game or the you know, the first Marquee game
Speaker 8: of their season last Tuesday, and they were completely unphased.
Speaker 8: And so, you know, I know it's easy to root
Speaker 8: against Duke and hate Duke, but I came away actually
Speaker 8: really impressed, even with their loss last week. Like I said,
Speaker 8: you're playing a veteran team, a team with a bunch
Speaker 8: of guys that our fifth six year college players. Not
Speaker 8: only were they not phased transparently, they were the better
Speaker 8: team for probably about probably about thirty four minutes in
Speaker 8: that game. Now, to Kentucky's credit, they made all the
Speaker 8: big Yeah. Yeah, so you steeve you watched like you
Speaker 8: want to. Yeah, I was gonna say, you want to
Speaker 8: give Kentucky credit for making the plays late, but I
Speaker 8: also don't think you can deny that that that Duke
Speaker 8: was the better team for large stretches. So they're they're
Speaker 8: you know, they're guys that have stuff like McDonald's on
Speaker 8: American attached to attached to their name. But sometimes that
Speaker 8: means more than others. But with these guys, these guys
Speaker 8: can really play.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 2: Let me ask a good dumb question, Aaron, because I
Speaker 2: don't know off the top of my head, and.
Speaker 8: There are no dumb questions Steve Stole, Well.
Speaker 2: Hold on, so, I know you're a big UA guy,
Speaker 2: kind of like almost a fan reporter kind of guy.
Speaker 2: How did you become kind of affiliated with Arizona.
Speaker 8: Well, I'll be honest. So the way most Arizona fans
Speaker 8: got to know me, I was the only national media
Speaker 8: member that defended Sean Miller during that whole situation. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 8: you remember, Steve is like it was just you know,
Speaker 8: and one thing about me is you can like me,
Speaker 8: you could dislike me. But I'm never going to talk
Speaker 8: about something on any of my shows, any of my
Speaker 8: twitter you know, on my twitter feed, I'm never gonna
Speaker 8: put anything out there unless I've done my homework and
Speaker 8: I've researched it. Despite what people will say about me
Speaker 8: and everybody in our business, I don't do stuff for clicks.
Speaker 8: I have no interest in just doing something for engagement.
Speaker 8: And so, you know, I thought a lot of the
Speaker 8: coverage of Sean and frankly of Arizona at that time
Speaker 8: was really unfair, especially to the way other programs were
Speaker 8: being covered, and so that was really where it started. Steve,
Speaker 8: and I think Arizona fans have always appreciated that about
Speaker 8: me and you know, but I also love college basketball,
Speaker 8: and I will say it is nice to just be
Speaker 8: able to talk about the team on the court and
Speaker 8: stuff like that. But again, I know now that I
Speaker 8: refresh your memory, you remember, but that was really where
Speaker 8: it started with me and the uf A fan.
Speaker 2: No, I do remember now, but that's been like four
Speaker 2: or five years ago. So you know, I'm an old man.
Speaker 2: Don't get old there, don't get old.
Speaker 5: Oh what has it been like? Both you guys? What's
Speaker 5: it been like? You know, being reporters in this era
Speaker 5: right now? You know, the Sewn Miller story was big here.
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe if it happened today, it might.
Speaker 8: Not be.
Speaker 2: Paid.
Speaker 3: Okay, big deal.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: There's so much going on outside of the games. I mean,
Speaker 5: how is that as reporters? Is your reporter's life is going.
Speaker 8: Well? You know, i'll speak for Steve. I won't speak
Speaker 8: for Steve, but you know what I'll say is even
Speaker 8: I think even the last four or five years, and
Speaker 8: you know, I've been doing this about fifteen years. I
Speaker 8: don't know how long Steve has been in the business.
Speaker 8: But you know, I did actually go to school for
Speaker 8: journalism and print and you know, work for some newspapers
Speaker 8: when I was younger and worked for some magazines things
Speaker 8: like that. And you know, the one thing I will say,
Speaker 8: and I don't think it's necessarily the best thing. And
Speaker 8: by the way, I think this was a lot of
Speaker 8: the Shaw Miller stuff is that everything is so instant now,
Speaker 8: so urgent now, and you know, we just kind of
Speaker 8: and it's all of us, and I include myself, is
Speaker 8: you know, something happens, you have to react to it,
Speaker 8: and you have to this, and you have to that,
Speaker 8: and everybody moves on from stuff so fast. And I
Speaker 8: think sometimes with complicated issues, we don't take the time
Speaker 8: to kind of get all the facts. And so I
Speaker 8: think on the perfect example of that. And by the way,
Speaker 8: you know, everyone's guilty of it. I mean, there is
Speaker 8: still a tweet that you can find of the night
Speaker 8: the DeAndre eight In report came out where I said, well,
Speaker 8: Sean Miller's never had to coach college basketball again. And
Speaker 8: then you alter, yeah, you start to you know, you
Speaker 8: start to reread the report, look into some details and
Speaker 8: I don't even remember everything now, but you know, I
Speaker 8: think the report came out on a Friday night, and
Speaker 8: you know, you start to say, well, wait, a second, now,
Speaker 8: you know, and I'm just using that as an example,
Speaker 8: but wait, wait a second. Now, so Christian Dawkins is
Speaker 8: this Detroit based agent, but he's supposed to be representing
Speaker 8: DeAndre and who's from the Bahamas and who's played his
Speaker 8: high school basketballer. Like, something doesn't add up here. But again,
Speaker 8: you know, and I'm sure Steve experienced this being on
Speaker 8: deadline or being a columnist or whatever is. You know,
Speaker 8: your bosses kind of expect you to have immediate reaction everything.
Speaker 8: And there's a lot of issues in sports and otherwise
Speaker 8: that that need more nuanced than just the immediate reaction.
Speaker 8: And then I think, not only do do do they
Speaker 8: need more nuanced? But I think also, you know, nobody
Speaker 8: ever goes back and revises the facts, you know, Like
Speaker 8: I like, I don't know that anybody, to your guys point,
Speaker 8: cares about you know, Sean Miller, And I don't mean
Speaker 8: don't don't care about Charldrene. I don't know that anybody
Speaker 8: cares about you know, what happened there six seven years ago,
Speaker 8: whatever it was. But I would also say, I bet
Speaker 8: if you pulled the random college basketball fans, they would say, oh,
Speaker 8: he's a cheater. And he got busted by the NCAA
Speaker 8: and he got suspended by it, and it's like, no,
Speaker 8: that's not actually what happened at all. And you know,
Speaker 8: he fought it and whatever happened, and his contract ran
Speaker 8: out in Arizona didn't renew it. But I just bring
Speaker 8: it up because I think that's what's what stood out
Speaker 8: to me even the last five, six, seven years, is
Speaker 8: that everything has become instant. You don't have time to
Speaker 8: kind of really do your homework. And then I think
Speaker 8: the other thing is when stuff has proven to be
Speaker 8: not true or whatever, you have a situation where you know,
Speaker 8: it doesn't allow you to go back and kind of
Speaker 8: kind of fix things and things right, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no question. Last I saw you, we were
Speaker 2: at the Final four in Phoenix. Obviously it's having a
Speaker 2: good time. But let me ask you. You've been to
Speaker 2: a number of places, right, you're going to Vegas now,
Speaker 2: but you've been to a number Where does Arizona rank
Speaker 2: in terms of places to watch a game compared to
Speaker 2: the places you've build?
Speaker 8: You know, I've only been there for really big games,
Speaker 8: so I think that's you know, like I've talked to
Speaker 8: people who cover Kentucky that say, you know, when when
Speaker 8: Rupferina's rocking, it's as good a place as anybody. But
Speaker 8: you know, on a Tuesday night against whoever, it's not
Speaker 8: always great. So I have not been to Arizona for
Speaker 8: anything other than really big games, and.
Speaker 3: It's awfun.
Speaker 8: It's right up there in the short conversation. You know,
Speaker 8: I've been to Rupperena, I've been allen Field House. Listen,
Speaker 8: and I've said this. I've probably said this to you before, Steve,
Speaker 8: But with Arizona now being in the Big twelve, I
Speaker 8: know that. You know, financially, not everybody can afford to
Speaker 8: do it, and I'm never one to tell people how
Speaker 8: to spend their money. I'm the last person to do it.
Speaker 8: But if you can afford to go to allen Field House,
Speaker 8: I would do it, and you're not going to regret it.
Speaker 15: You know.
Speaker 8: My Yukon Husky's played there last year. They played right
Speaker 8: around a year ago. It's like the first week of December,
Speaker 8: maybe the last week of November. I don't remember, but
Speaker 8: it was I had never been there and it was
Speaker 8: my alma mater, and I went because it was a
Speaker 8: big game. But you know, the point I'm trying to
Speaker 8: make is that that place is unbelievable. And now with
Speaker 8: Arizona in the same conference, I know they play there
Speaker 8: this year. If you got a chance to go, just
Speaker 8: go because it's so unlike anywhere else in sports really.
Speaker 8: And it was funny because the night that Kansas played
Speaker 8: North Carolina, my mom happened to be in town and
Speaker 8: my wife was here and we were kind of just
Speaker 8: had the game out in the background, and what I
Speaker 8: said about fog Allen Field House was it's just the
Speaker 8: type of place that could never be built in twenty
Speaker 8: twenty foards. It's a big capacity, but it's really small,
Speaker 8: and the fans are piled on top of each other,
Speaker 8: and it's really hot, and it's just it's just a
Speaker 8: totally unique place, unlike anywhere else in college basketball. By
Speaker 8: the way, I'm standing here in my living room and
Speaker 8: it's six thirty Eastern and the Xavier Musketeers just came on.
Speaker 8: So Sean Miller must have heard us talking about him
Speaker 8: and decided to play a basketball game. But yeah, to Tucson,
Speaker 8: Tucson is as good. Like I said, I haven't been
Speaker 8: a Cameron indoor yet, but I've been a rough I've
Speaker 8: been a fog Gallon. I've been at the Carrier Dome
Speaker 8: is very unique for a big game, thirty two thirty
Speaker 8: three thousand people. Uh Gample Pavilion at Yukon is really good.
Speaker 8: I'm at you know, you guys know where I'm actually
Speaker 8: going for the first time this year that I'm really
Speaker 8: excited about is BYU. That place holds about eighteen nineteen
Speaker 8: thousand people, and you know, the move to the Big
Speaker 8: twelve has really energized that fan base. So that's one
Speaker 8: that I'll be going to for the first time this year,
Speaker 8: and I can't wait for that one.
Speaker 2: You remember what happened there at BAU You're covering the team.
Speaker 2: I think, are you covering in Arizona?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: So I was there. I can't remember. It was ninety nine,
Speaker 2: maybe in ninety eight. So I was a little played
Speaker 2: there on the road Christmas game, Thanksgiving game and Geene
Speaker 2: Edigerson pops the guy in the back of the head
Speaker 2: and gives him a concussion. He's out for almost the year.
Speaker 2: I think he had to run an apology to the
Speaker 2: to the school and the guy. Back then. This is
Speaker 2: twenty five years ago.
Speaker 5: I remember the Jim remember Jimmer Fordett when he came
Speaker 5: in on the Kale he scored forty nine points.
Speaker 8: Or something for you that is I don't remember that, Yeah.
Speaker 9: It was.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 5: It was also like a Christmas time because I remember
Speaker 5: we were at the Holiday Bowl, so that was, you know,
Speaker 5: right after Christmas and Arizona was playing that one of
Speaker 5: those games.
Speaker 2: Right now, I think he may have the record or
Speaker 2: set maybe the second most in the in the arena.
Speaker 5: Speaking of conference alignment, Arizona is getting its first taste
Speaker 5: of the Big twelve in college football. And you talk
Speaker 5: about fan experiences almost everywhere they go now it's it's
Speaker 5: sold out, right, I mean that never happened in the
Speaker 5: Pac twelve. You know you'd go to some of these stadiums.
Speaker 5: That's a big it's a big change. What do you
Speaker 5: what do you expect then for you know, Big twelve
Speaker 5: basketball is.
Speaker 8: Well, it's really funny this has been And obviously, like
Speaker 8: everybody else, I think Tommy Lloyd is an incredible, incredible coach.
Speaker 8: Like really obviously he set all sorts of records for
Speaker 8: year one wins, first three years, all that good stuff.
Speaker 8: But I think the one thing that you can't deny
Speaker 8: is that there have been games where his team, especially
Speaker 8: on the road, but really in league play, where his
Speaker 8: teams just don't show up and or they don't show
Speaker 8: up ready to play, or they don't whatever. And you know, listen,
Speaker 8: last year you lose at Stanford, last year you lose
Speaker 8: at Oregon State. And I do think that it's going
Speaker 8: to be a bit of a wake up call. And
Speaker 8: the staff is really smart, they know what they're doing,
Speaker 8: but I think it's going to be a wake up
Speaker 8: call of there is basically your guys point, there really
Speaker 8: isn't a venue that the fans aren't going to show
Speaker 8: up ready to go. And I think the bigger thing
Speaker 8: is that the league is just so much better across
Speaker 8: the board. I think everybody focuses on Kansas, Houston, whatever,
Speaker 8: But look at a BUYU, look at a Texas Tech.
Speaker 8: I knows this State isn't. You know, they took a
Speaker 8: loss the other night, but that's a really tough place
Speaker 8: to play. And you know, I've talked to coaches in
Speaker 8: the Big Twelve and they'll tell you it's just it's
Speaker 8: a league where you can be playing really well, you
Speaker 8: can be playing good basketball and still go, you know,
Speaker 8: four and three over a seven game stretch, lose two
Speaker 8: games over a seven game stretch when you're playing really well,
Speaker 8: and so that's not even factoring in when you're not
Speaker 8: playing well. And so I think that that it's going
Speaker 8: to be something that I think the entire Arizona program,
Speaker 8: I know they're excited for the step up, but you
Speaker 8: just got to be ready because, like I said, there's
Speaker 8: really no off nights in that league, especially.
Speaker 2: A basketball Well, let's switch to football just real quickly,
Speaker 2: got about abe two minutes. Your thoughts on what's going
Speaker 2: on with the program.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's been disappointing, there's no doubt about it. And
Speaker 8: you guys cover the team every day. I'll defer to
Speaker 8: you on you know everything that's gone wrong, and you
Speaker 8: know what needs to change in the offseason and all that.
Speaker 8: But I guess all I would say is is, listen,
Speaker 8: you don't get much better situations than not only inheriting
Speaker 8: a ten win roster, but inheriting a ten win roster
Speaker 8: where the quarterback is coming off of a twenty four
Speaker 8: touchdown season. You obviously have the best wide receiver, in
Speaker 8: my opinion, in all of college football. And so it's
Speaker 8: just been really disappointing, And I think what's been disappointing
Speaker 8: is there's really no consistent First of all, obviously no
Speaker 8: Fafida taking a major step back, and I don't blame
Speaker 8: him as much as just the coaching and what's going on,
Speaker 8: you know, Sunday through Friday, not necessarily on Saturday, but
Speaker 8: Fafita's taking a step back, and I think there's just
Speaker 8: really no consistency. You know, sometimes the defense is pretty good,
Speaker 8: sometimes the defense isn't. Sometimes the offense is moving the ball.
Speaker 8: Sometimes they are. Sometimes the offense is turning the ball over,
Speaker 8: sometimes it isn't. And to me, that's just been the
Speaker 8: most disappointing thing. Is it's one thing when you struggle
Speaker 8: as a first year head coach when you don't inherit much.
Speaker 8: But obviously, you know, Brent Brennan inherited a ton, and
Speaker 8: I don't think there's any way to look at it
Speaker 8: other than that it's been an incredibly disappointing season for
Speaker 8: him and for the program. And you know, I frankly
Speaker 8: feel a little bit bad because I know how excited
Speaker 8: Arizona fans were for this coming season that obviously has
Speaker 8: not gone a plan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, Aaron, I appreciate your time. I always love
Speaker 2: having you on man. You know that.
Speaker 8: I love coming out with you guys. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: And we'll do it against Question in enjoy Vegas and
Speaker 2: once Friday night, we'll see, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 8: Thanks man, I'll be watching, don't you work?
Speaker 2: Thank you all right? Eron Tauris from Fox Sports or
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Speaker 1: the Ball with Steve Ravera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to my on the Ball here on
Speaker 2: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Bavera, You're Dave Silver,
Speaker 2: He's Henry. You get about fifteen minutes. If you guys
Speaker 2: want to call, please do let me hear from you
Speaker 2: five two zero or one six seventy four forty excuse
Speaker 2: us a call, let us know what's going on. Going
Speaker 2: to the game on Friday, because we're not I'm not
Speaker 2: here tomorrow or Friday. Too busy with El tour and
Speaker 2: other stuff.
Speaker 3: So yeah, going to the game should be fun.
Speaker 5: Just found out this afternoon we got some tickets, so
Speaker 5: we'll be going and joining got to get a white
Speaker 5: shirt apparently, is that what we're saying. It's gonna be
Speaker 5: a white out. So have you seen Henry? He better
Speaker 5: not be custiner Henry. Yeah, I'm sure the students will
Speaker 5: be in rare form real form.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I hope they don't give him the UCLA treatment.
Speaker 5: Big ESPN broadcast, although you know when it's on what
Speaker 5: ten thirty eastern?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of late. But Jay Billis is going
Speaker 3: to be coming in. I don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure he's doing play by play but he's
Speaker 5: always Yeah, he comes.
Speaker 3: It's usually a big game.
Speaker 5: So he's been here, I know, for game day a
Speaker 5: number of times and you know, usually he's usually here
Speaker 5: at least once once a year.
Speaker 2: Right, right, I was gonna ask. We had a press
Speaker 2: conference with him today on Zoom and I didn't have
Speaker 2: time to stay all the time, but I wanted to
Speaker 2: ask him and like what I asked, Aaron, is is
Speaker 2: it one of the best places to watch a best
Speaker 2: game for like big games like this?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 2: You can't really tell on a regular game, right because
Speaker 2: they don't always get up for the game.
Speaker 3: But games like this Michaeale crowd shows up.
Speaker 2: They should be ready for this one. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: were you there for the North Carolina game? No one
Speaker 2: loots one of loots last? Oh wait, yes I was.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I was done of a game.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: They got hammered.
Speaker 2: You got hammered, so the crowd was not really involved.
Speaker 5: Yeah, trying to think what I mean I was. Some
Speaker 5: of the last Oregon games have been pretty spectacular.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: There was that Kerk Crease a game a couple of
Speaker 5: years ago, and the game last year against Oregon here
Speaker 5: was was pretty big in terms of just the crowd
Speaker 5: and you know Arizon, it was losing. I remember, how
Speaker 5: about the Tennessee game a couple of years ago where
Speaker 5: they were down, Cats were down maybe.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, thirteen or fifteen, they came back one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean those are always kind of fun when
Speaker 5: they when there's some drama in the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we had were you went to be with Chase? No, uh,
Speaker 2: they were his game Houston. Oh yea, that's right.
Speaker 3: What a crazy great game that was.
Speaker 2: It's right down by like eleven with about a minute left,
Speaker 2: and they came back and won that game. And after
Speaker 2: what's his name stepped on his face? Gonna say he
Speaker 2: stepped on and got stepped on that game. I think
Speaker 2: I was there. He said, how would that go?
Speaker 5: With talking to Chase with his transition to volleyball, did
Speaker 5: he enjoy his summer?
Speaker 2: And oh yeah, yeah, he had a great time, a
Speaker 2: great time, you know, kind of living a dream of
Speaker 2: getting to do what he did. You remember when he
Speaker 2: came out and I asked this question, you remember what
Speaker 2: he obviously he would remember, but when he was a freshman,
Speaker 2: he came out for midnight Madness. I think it was
Speaker 2: how he came out.
Speaker 3: Now, what was he wearing.
Speaker 2: He was in beach attire with the beach volley beach
Speaker 2: volleyball and kind of with the towel over with the
Speaker 2: sunglasses and stuff like that, and obviously that was his destiny.
Speaker 3: He was one of those guys.
Speaker 5: I think I may have told the story here before
Speaker 5: where we went to his high school. It just so
Speaker 5: happened that they were playing like his last high school
Speaker 5: game where he was going to be breaking the California
Speaker 5: state scoring record I think may have been held by
Speaker 5: Bill Walton of all people. And we went down there
Speaker 5: to La Costa and covered the game, and I've never
Speaker 5: seen I mean, he signed autographs after the game at
Speaker 5: center court, they set up a table for him.
Speaker 3: He was that popular. It was his last high school
Speaker 3: game at home.
Speaker 2: Yeah right.
Speaker 5: And then you know, this was in March. We were
Speaker 5: covering the Pac twelve or Pac ten tournaments in La
Speaker 5: so we took a detour and went down there first.
Speaker 2: Well and if you remember too that and I talked
Speaker 2: to him about this, how did he feel about lut
Speaker 2: saying at the time too it might have been hyperbole
Speaker 2: from Loot because he needed these guys desperately at the
Speaker 2: end of his career. That he was the best recruit
Speaker 2: he'd ever had, ever signed, the best recruit he'd ever signed.
Speaker 6: Really.
Speaker 2: There were guys like Bibbie, there was a guy like
Speaker 2: Sean Elliott. There was guys like you know, those guys,
Speaker 2: and Chase was the best you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: He needed he needed him at that time.
Speaker 5: That was a good, good little finish that at least
Speaker 5: those couple of years were a good, good period of time.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and again those good old days.
Speaker 2: Actually those days were like two thousand, two thousand five ish,
Speaker 2: two thousand and seven, whatever it was, And it was
Speaker 2: just the end was near for Loote because it was
Speaker 2: not going well. Yeah, with Jordan Hill and him and
Speaker 2: Marcus Williams and those guys.
Speaker 5: But it seems like, you know, I mean, Sean Miller
Speaker 5: kept it going pretty pretty consistently. We can't we can't
Speaker 5: say anything bad about that. But you know, Tommy seems
Speaker 5: to have kind of turned the corner too with some
Speaker 5: of the recruits and some of the you know, we're
Speaker 5: hearing about people who are coming, you know, in the future,
Speaker 5: and the young guys now, so I think the I
Speaker 5: think the programs in Good Footing. Yeah, it was really
Speaker 5: dropping off, you know, is as we were talking about
Speaker 5: just going to the Big twelve, it's going to be
Speaker 5: interesting to see how they compare and how they stack
Speaker 5: up against some of these places in some of these places,
Speaker 5: and those teams got to come here.
Speaker 2: Too, right right, Let me ask you, did you watch
Speaker 2: the game out or did you watch part of it? Yeah,
Speaker 2: watch the first half. What were you impressions? What were
Speaker 2: the impressions like just you know, okay, they lost, but.
Speaker 5: You know, I sometimes it's like almost so obvious, like
Speaker 5: when when you're you know, one of your top scorers
Speaker 5: not hitting right, that's not a good right, and you know,
Speaker 5: things like that, And I would say that almost every
Speaker 5: I mean even last year, I'd say, well, you know,
Speaker 5: if he's not hitting and Baba is not making his
Speaker 5: free throws, Arizona's going to be in trouble.
Speaker 3: Sure, And that's how it played out.
Speaker 8: Sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh. That was one of my points in my column
Speaker 2: the next day where and it was probably not brought.
Speaker 2: It was one of my one of my friends, the
Speaker 2: guy we we know, sent me a message during the
Speaker 2: game or later in that game says, uh, it's disheartening
Speaker 2: how he he not so much? How he played, but
Speaker 2: how he reacted to the game he played, He wasn't
Speaker 2: kind of engaged. He didn't do well, so he kind
Speaker 2: of not freaked out or he just just became disengaged.
Speaker 2: And that's one issue. And then that they gave up
Speaker 2: one hundred points how many teams doesn't happen. That doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: I mean those two things. The hundred points was, yeah,
Speaker 2: very obviously, that doesn't happen with the defense that you
Speaker 2: think is pretty good. And then Caleb a guy you
Speaker 2: need to come up halfway decent, and he didn't do that,
Speaker 2: and he didn't react well to it.
Speaker 3: You know. The fouls.
Speaker 5: The foul story was, you know, kind of going on
Speaker 5: as you're watching the game, like this game is going
Speaker 5: to take forever. They were in foul trouble, like literally
Speaker 5: like seven minutes into the game. I think they were shooting,
Speaker 5: you know, in the bonus and things like that. I
Speaker 5: just got a little out of hand. And then that
Speaker 5: technical and that that custom like five points. I think
Speaker 5: altogether it was just kind of a mess.
Speaker 2: Right, I've we've seen those, We've seen enough these games.
Speaker 2: Sits in November, and I'm not going to give these
Speaker 2: guys an alibi because I don't need Tommy doesn't need one,
Speaker 2: and this.
Speaker 3: Team is going to be good.
Speaker 2: Like I said, I think they're gonna win on Friday.
Speaker 2: I think I was told two days ago that the
Speaker 2: spread was like five five and a half Arizona fact.
Speaker 2: I would take that every day, their favorite the underdog,
Speaker 2: underdogs still at home. Wow, it might be lowered now,
Speaker 2: but that's what it was Monday. Okay, we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 2: I like this team though, I like it a lot
Speaker 2: because I think one of the things that makes good coaches,
Speaker 2: one of the many things is the roster construction, and
Speaker 2: he's done an excellent job at that with this team.
Speaker 5: I agree, there's and again, some of these guys are
Speaker 5: kind of come into their own coming back like a
Speaker 5: like a like Henry coming back, you know, having not
Speaker 5: played for a year or so. And another big guy
Speaker 5: in the middle who you know has kind of proven
Speaker 5: himself already, but how much will he improve over the
Speaker 5: course of the year. Obviously, the nucleus in the back
Speaker 5: court is pretty strong, and I hope that when Caleb
Speaker 5: has a bad shooting game and someone else will pick
Speaker 5: him up, that you know, it was a del or so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still struggling though from the field, which makes
Speaker 2: no sense because he's a good shooter. Yeah no, And
Speaker 2: I think I've said this to a number of people
Speaker 2: when you've been on too that you think you think
Speaker 2: that Okay, one of the guys goes down, the other
Speaker 2: two wouldn't or you know, and you could go three
Speaker 2: card monte with it. Okay, this guy goes down, this
Speaker 2: tool this kind of this, and it happened right and
Speaker 2: Bradley was the guy. And I think Bradley's going to
Speaker 2: be the guy for a long time because he's not
Speaker 2: afraid and he plays very aggressive.
Speaker 5: He does not afraid to go to the basket, not
Speaker 5: afraid to get fouled, a good free throw shooter, which
Speaker 5: is important.
Speaker 3: You're right.
Speaker 5: I mean they've got to have guys who are not
Speaker 5: afraid to mix it and mix it up and go
Speaker 5: in there, and you know, use the big guys as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Again, this has it'll be a fun test just to
Speaker 5: sort of see how they how it plays that.
Speaker 3: So if you watched a little Henry, did you watch basketball?
Speaker 3: Were the game?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I watched.
Speaker 4: I watched the first time.
Speaker 3: Okay, so this is me.
Speaker 2: I just watched the game because I was at the
Speaker 2: football game and I kind of watched back and forth.
Speaker 3: Did Henry not play well? Or was he not a factor?
Speaker 3: Did he his name was never really mentioned.
Speaker 4: I don't even remember if I remember getting more than
Speaker 4: only a couple.
Speaker 3: Of minutes exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, what do I know about basketball? Right? Because
Speaker 2: two years ago or last year, I thought that that uh,
Speaker 2: we were of an inch, it would have a great year.
Speaker 2: He really saw the court. Now, I said, this year,
Speaker 2: I really like Henry. I think he's gonna do well.
Speaker 2: And well I gave him the kiss of death too.
Speaker 5: Again, there could have been some matchup situations too, because
Speaker 5: there were some games where the two big guys played
Speaker 5: together on the court the same time, and maybe Wisconsin
Speaker 5: was spreading the floor too much, and there were obviously
Speaker 5: they're hitting their threes, which we've seen over the years,
Speaker 5: Yeah they do that, So there were you know, we're
Speaker 5: not maybe watching it as closely as we should.
Speaker 2: Well, and they do have another pretty good big man
Speaker 2: besides Greevis, they have a waka who's right, who's pretty good.
Speaker 5: And he didn't start well though either. I think he
Speaker 5: kind of struggled at the beginning of that game, whereas
Speaker 5: he played great a couple of games ago. So they
Speaker 5: need they need, you know, guys to kind of step
Speaker 5: up and when someone's.
Speaker 3: Not at their best, someone else should be there.
Speaker 2: And realistically, I'm like, I'm like tourists and talking about
Speaker 2: the Kentucky Duke game. Duke was the better team for
Speaker 2: a long portion of that game. Kentucky just came back.
Speaker 2: And not that Arizona was the better team against Wisconsin,
Speaker 2: because it wasn't. But how many times you see that game,
Speaker 2: a game like that called that way with the fouls. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was very rare, very rare. I don't think that's
Speaker 2: going to happen again this year. So that's a bonus
Speaker 2: that you know, they experienced it, maybe take care of it.
Speaker 3: And how do you how do you guard against that? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know, you don't because you don't.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure you coach, you know, to play
Speaker 5: defense and not to foul things like that. But you know,
Speaker 5: whatever whatever was going on there, it wasn't working. There
Speaker 5: was too much, too many calls and too many you know,
Speaker 5: maybe with some things were tiki tak and then you know,
Speaker 5: next thing, you know, get a technical, so you get
Speaker 5: two fouls in that situation, which you know, took him
Speaker 5: off the court for much of the first half anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so he could never really get into a rhythm, right.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I say, I really like this team. Where
Speaker 2: they lose a few games in the Big Twelve, no question.
Speaker 2: Could they lose Friday, no question. But I like the schedule.
Speaker 2: You got your hands on some tickets, you'll enjoy it
Speaker 2: because I think the fans who have tickets just this season,
Speaker 2: it's it's not unlike it's any other season in a
Speaker 2: long time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in a long time, Sean wouldn't be doing this.
Speaker 3: I mean, he didn't do this. He didn't do it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think we missed that.
Speaker 5: I mean I used to love having those games, especially
Speaker 5: back in the days of the Fiesta Bowl Classic when
Speaker 5: you get like three good teams. But even then later
Speaker 5: there would always be that one kind of magical game
Speaker 5: in December, right after school's out and before the students
Speaker 5: are gone, you know, and Syracuse would come.
Speaker 3: In and then and they would always lose that game. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Remember came in, Yeah, Vansas came in, Yukon came in,
Speaker 2: Michigan State came in State. Yeah, both those games are great.
Speaker 2: If you had a ticket, say, and you were able
Speaker 2: to go.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because you know, again, you look at them, you
Speaker 5: look at the non conference schedule. Obviously the Big twelve
Speaker 5: is going to be a little bit different maybe than
Speaker 5: the Pac twelve. But you look at the non conference games.
Speaker 5: Oh gosh, we haven't you know, old dominions going to
Speaker 5: come in, They're gonna lose by sixty, you know, things
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 3: But now you get Duke or we're an underdog. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and in this day and age, I can't even remember.
Speaker 2: And maybe Bruce would know because he's covered the team
Speaker 2: better than I have the last ten years because I
Speaker 2: don't have a publication very much. But it's very rare,
Speaker 2: very well. You remember Stanford and the court stormy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Arizona was an underdog. I think that game because there
Speaker 2: Stanford may have been a one or two the ranked
Speaker 2: team at that time. Arizona wins and then they stormed
Speaker 2: the court at Kale. I think that's the first and
Speaker 2: last time that I remember that.
Speaker 3: Oh was that the Jason Terry shot?
Speaker 2: No, there was a different one. I think it could
Speaker 2: have been. That was a very good game too. It
Speaker 2: might have been a different one. It could have been
Speaker 2: that one like now you're but I remember that game.
Speaker 2: It was we'd have to go back in the in
Speaker 2: the books, but it was one of those let.
Speaker 3: Me call Mike Montgomery real fast. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I brought up his name yesterday too as well. But
Speaker 2: you know they did that when they when you before you,
Speaker 2: when they went to the big big pack Tan Tan,
Speaker 2: when they beat U C. L A. And you was
Speaker 2: seeing back to back days, really back to back games
Speaker 2: here here and they stormed it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it was just you know, it's you if
Speaker 3: you're in the pack ten. And that was in the
Speaker 3: snowed in.
Speaker 2: Years, late seventies, seventy ninety.
Speaker 3: I wish I could have seen those teams.
Speaker 2: And remember in the book that you said you had
Speaker 2: of mine, the one book it's in there. It's it's
Speaker 2: the spaghetti Game. Remember they beat some Oh you don't
Speaker 2: know that. I got to look at the book again. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So the Spaghetti Machine, like the spaghetti Machine restaurant said
Speaker 2: that if they go they beat usc whatever and everyone
Speaker 2: with the ticket gets a free spaghetti meal. Well they
Speaker 2: that's exactly what it was, and they they shortly went
Speaker 2: out of business. I think I might I might be
Speaker 2: stretching the idea. But but but they're no longer around, right.
Speaker 2: It was pretty quickly after that. Wow, that's a good story. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's in the book, you know, I wrote it.
Speaker 2: I've just been so long because they went back to
Speaker 2: back against U C, l A and USC.
Speaker 3: I gotta go. Yeah, Okay, thanks Dave.
Speaker 2: I'll see you next week baby, I'm not here tomorrow
Speaker 2: or finally with tour. Yeah. Thanks, thanks there, yes everybody, yeah,
Speaker 2: we be aware of the delays.
Speaker 3: Thank you. Henry