Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome back to Challenge the podcast, all about
the challenge as always.
Speaker 2: I'm Brian sitting in his bedroom questioning his life choices,
sitting in her house questioning her life.
Speaker 3: Choices, Carlin san Diego and Zach.
Speaker 2: Sitting at work questioning his life choices.
Speaker 4: Zachy bananas.
Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 3: Well, it's very pleased with us with.
Speaker 5: Wiphy are you? Are you over there questioning your life's choices?
Speaker 2: Is that way every single moment of my life?
Speaker 5: You just projected that onto all of.
Speaker 3: Us, especially when on the podcast.
Speaker 5: Just have happily over here talking about diarrhea is just like,
what the fuck am I doing here?
Speaker 4: Ye?
Speaker 3: Christ all right, we'll.
Speaker 5: Pay for that conversation, guys. It's on the Patreon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a ripping conversation.
Speaker 5: Carl and shitter pants and ski gear guys tied it
up like a like a diarrhea balloon. I almost said hot?
Speaker 3: Was that necessary?
Speaker 5: I almost said hot diary balloon?
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: And the.
Speaker 4: Hey, we Tonight's eliminations to have targets with like dust,
they had diarrhea.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, now I'm cushing.
Speaker 5: One would have to be a bloody diary balloon. Notice
separate so you can tell what I'm just saying. To
tell who's college camp? Bothy Brown?
Speaker 3: Right, so so much worse. I did so many Rice
episode eight era of The Gladiator, who hated the Gladiators
stay me totally.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love I love the challenges tonight, but I
hated the tie in with the movie.
Speaker 3: We will we will get there, all right. We start
with a clip from Derek of Derek from I don't
even remember what season it was. Was it Cutthroat? It was, Yeah,
Derek going against three guys in a very similar game
to what we see in the Challenge later on, and
then we have.
Speaker 5: That was a badass moment by Derek. By the way,
when it was against three, he gave one of these
numbers you know that come get some numbers, and he
didn't really well.
Speaker 3: Back then, they were all also in their like late twenties,
early thirties. Like these guys were young. I didn't think
they were in their thirties yet think much.
Speaker 5: It's like mid twenties.
Speaker 3: Yeah it was a long time ago.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right.
Speaker 3: And then we're back in the house and we get
all kinds of confessionals, as we always do. We get
a confessional from Derreck saying that his leg is not
doing well, which I mean all of us knowvous like
he's just like hoppling on one leg for the last
two episodes. We get a Jenny talking to Michelle and
complaining to her that she hates that she's being voted
in again. And then we get a talking head from Casey,
and this is the most game that Casey has talked
in her entire career on the challenge. She sits there
and talks about how Jenny doesn't have any like, I
mean kind of like friends in this house because she
doesn't take the time to make the connections with people
and talk game with people, and that that's what they
are suppose they all need to do in order to
further themselves in this game. And then she says some
bullshit about her everybody being rookies, like, I guess you
are now kind of allowed to say that, but I
still look at you like you came in from another games,
So are you really allowed to call other people rookies.
Speaker 5: She's a champ, so that she earned something from that.
But it is true, like she's relatively new, she's not
as deep into these alliances. This is part of the challenge.
It is like friendships translate to alliances. You're less of friends,
like it is what it is.
Speaker 3: Sorry, No, I wholeheartedly agreed with everything that she said,
except for the rookies comment that one. Do you guys
remember why because she's.
Speaker 4: From and that's say she came from a big brother Wood.
That's a very strategic game. Can you remember what show
Jenny came from? Like was her original show strategic or
like a dating.
Speaker 3: From either a dating show or something like Jeordie Shore.
Speaker 4: Yeah, in that sense, like yeah, you know, like her
being a rook in the sense of like she didn't
her show is basically the challenge. Okay, sorry, didn't cut
you off. Yeah, so so I never watched that show,
so I don't know how much like strategizing and yeah,
backstad mean she like came up doing well.
Speaker 3: Like we didn't really talk about it last episode, but
when she jumped off the building and they were hauling
her back up, she was sitting there like she talked
to herself the entire time, and she even said, I'm
just gonna talk to myself because that's what everybody thinks
that I do. So I'm just and she's just yapping
away for the like five minutes that it took them
to pull her up about.
Speaker 5: Your guinea pigs and shit, yeah, weird.
Speaker 3: Shit, yeah, all kinds of things. So it was just like,
you can't make connections with people if you're only talking
to yourself.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I do think she's I think she's just
less connecting, just is what it is.
Speaker 3: And I'm in less connections means, yeah, you're gonna get
thrown in every time happens, and not even just by
her team, by literally anybody in the house. You have
to make connections with everybody. And then we've got Neamiah
talking and to Corey and he says something along the
lines of he doesn't think he doesn't think of Era
too as a team. He thinks of them as a
collection of people, kind of like what Destiny's Child was
before they broke up, where they're almost almost broken up
but they're still connected, but they're not really connected.
Speaker 5: Did that come from Corey or is that coming from you?
Speaker 3: No, that came from Nehemiah.
Speaker 5: Oh Neiamayah. I don't remember them talking about that on
the show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Iya said that well, and obviously if they're
Destney's child, bananas is a Beyonce.
Speaker 3: Okay, hold on pause, because you weren't here last week.
Oh my god, dude, the week before the amount that
you were so far up Johnny's ass was it was obnoxious.
You gotta you gotta pull it down just a little bit.
Speaker 5: I always liked the other one better anyway, the one
that was in Freddy versus Jason. Which one is that one?
Will fee?
Speaker 3: Huh?
Speaker 5: What child chick? It was in Freddy versus Jason. Kelly Rowland.
Way better than way better than Beyonce.
Speaker 2: Still says, is Jinny the only champ on Era five?
No case is as well.
Speaker 5: Airport?
Speaker 4: Uh just fed up?
Speaker 5: Oh Karlin, you gonna have to reboot. She called Freddy
f Ford. I'm not gonna say that on the on
the actual podcast. I do remember that, I think, and
she made fun of his little penis.
Speaker 3: Yeah all right, am I am I talking?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's terrible. Try again. Yeah, hey, listen, come for
the challenge, Stay for the Kelly Rowland and Freddy versus
Jason talk.
Speaker 4: So what happens? Carlin tries to, like, tell me talk
about Banana's Last and Banana's karma.
Speaker 2: Uh so it brings up Freddy looked at her and
called her dark meat, which was true if you're a
fan of stand up Camel nan Giohnny did a whole
joke about Freddy being a bigot in that movie. And
it's pretty funny.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, a little racist, little sexist.
Speaker 3: It's great calling someone dark meat is a little racist.
Speaker 2: Boo, yeah, he said when he saw people in the
audience started like booing like oh boo, and they're like,
as if we're supposed to be disappointed in Freddy. Yeah,
he's not very child rapist or murderer. Sure, but I'm
not standing for no bigot.
Speaker 5: Hey, listen, here's the joke. You know, Freddy krue great
woke boom because he text people in their dreams.
Speaker 2: You know, you get it, guys, continue on, Just Tim
just ruined it.
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, Soniamiah and Corey are talking. He says
that he also says that he feels that Nehemiah said
that he feels much more connected to Era three than
he does to Era two, and Corey kind of counters
that with, well, I feel much more connected to Era
two than I do Era three, and that comes back
to play later on.
Speaker 5: Cory's Corey is kind of like a Jenny. He's just
sort of is an island. He's got sort of loose
connections that he thinks are tighter than they actually are.
And yeah, just kind of in the same boat.
Speaker 3: We get scenes of Ryan packing all of his ship
and moving into I assume Era three's room out of
the Era two room, and as he's doing it, Laurel
and Johnny Bananas are standing right there, just you know,
Johnny's taking the piss out of him and he's He's
said that the reason he wants to move is because
he's tired of dealing with their bullshit. Can we get
a really not short scene of Johnny saying, yeah, you know,
it's not like I don like I've done anything on
the show except and then he just starts talking and
talking and talking.
Speaker 6: With the fast forward they had the fast forward scenes,
you should point out that Ryan says he's tired of
listening to Johnny talk about himsel yep, and then cut
to Johnny talking about himself for like days on end.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can only imagine how long that scene actually was.
And then we get it.
Speaker 5: And by the way, some shade about our podcast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, saying that his is the best one out there.
Speaker 5: Come on, bananas, Yeah, come.
Speaker 4: On, I stopt he was discussing. Then I tweeted, I
respond on Twitter today saying ours is the best, and
I tagged our Twitter account, and then I realized our
toory account hasn't been used since twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: Stove says that bananas, that's why bananas sounded like Trump
in that moment. Yes he did, Yes he did. Oh,
apparently half of Johnny's guests don't use don't use mice
or headsets. I'm assuming that's a or headsets and sound
like shit. That's good.
Speaker 5: Those guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: And then we've also got we have Laurel, who attempts
to give some insight into why her and Ryan's relationship
like friendship kind of deteriorated, But it.
Speaker 3: Doesn't really say a whole lot. She just mentions that
their relationship took a turn when she and Nicole started
to reconcile, because then Nicole started texting him NonStop. But
I don't about what, Like I'm her complaining about shit
like there's this. Doesn't this unless it's setting something up,
This means absolutely nothing.
Speaker 5: We're not gonna get the full story here. But I
don't think Laurel is being honest. I think I think
from what Ryan has said, he was fine with Laurel
until the Laurel and Carmeria fight, and that seems to
be like kind of what ended his kind of support
of Laurel.
Speaker 3: And Laurel is just the least self aware person ever,
which was made very apparent during that fight.
Speaker 2: Oh Josh is on this season.
Speaker 3: True Josh is on this season. She's the most least
aware of self aware female in that house.
Speaker 5: Zachi, do you know anymore than what I just said
about the Ryan Laurel situation.
Speaker 4: I don't believe so though. I feel like I might
have back when all starts first ended, but so far
on my mind now I think, yeah, just in the breakup,
you know here on both sides, I think Ryan took
Nicole's side over Laurels.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh. Stove has a has a hot take saying that
Laurel is only as good as she is because she's
six feet tall, and if she was small as small
as the rest of the women, she wouldn't be as
good as any of them there.
Speaker 4: Well, this is a This has been a big conversation
on social media because speaking of Banana's podcast this past week,
he had wess On and West an entire segment about
that being like, if you made Laurel like, you know,
five foot seven, she's not even like one of the
ten best women to ever be on the show.
Speaker 5: That's true. But like basketball players are tall, you know,
like that's her body helps her perform well in this game,
I don't. That's not like a slam against her, you know.
Same for THEO. Theo's tall, it helps him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a point in time where THEO and
Laurel were THEO and Derek were standing next to each other,
and THEO looked like he was standing on stairs next
to Derek and they were standing on flat ground.
Speaker 5: He was like a nipple or something. It was like,
so weird. Yeah, I saw that too.
Speaker 3: Hold on, I there was someone sent.
Speaker 4: There.
Speaker 3: It is okay, So in the Instagram account about a
week or so ago, someone sent through the it's pictures
of Laurel and CAA and their stats, and so we're
gonna we're gonna run through this renaissance. We're talking about Laurel.
So Carra is fifteen seasons to Laurel's eight. Cara has
nine finals to Laurel's four. Cara has two wins to
Laurels one, has forty three daily wins to Laurels twenty two,
has a fourteen and six elimination record to Laurel's ten
and three. Was an All Stars four finalist, whereas Laurel
one All Stars four because of the advantages that she got.
And then it's also got a note saying Carra's is
the first contestant to be declared a solo winner of
a Challenge season, and Laurel holds the record for the
most consecutive elimination wins by a female contestant with nine. No,
So like the fact that Laurel keeps talking about how
she's dragging Kara along, and she's like Kara is beneath
her with her how well she does and all that
sort of thing, These stats speak for themselves. Cara has
got a much better record.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And I just don't like that argument about Laurel's,
But like I understand it, like it's true and stuff.
But people don't say that about Mark like Mark is
successful in the show because he's fucking huge, and like
there's people that are like that, Zach, you know, and
why why so why are we calling Laurel out for it?
Like that's true of everybody. Some people are fast, some
people are tall. I don't know that helps her in
the game.
Speaker 3: It does it? Just yeah, because of her size, she
she has an advantage. There are very few people in
this game who stuff says because Laurel is annoying as
fucking Marcu isn't.
Speaker 5: That's what it comes down to. I think it's people
are looking for reason is this sort of discredit Laurel,
which is like fucking whatever, do whatever you want. But
that seems like a weird argument. I don't know. They
just don't use that for anybody else.
Speaker 3: There are very few people in this game who are
small in stature and have done well at dominating this game.
Camilla was one of those people until she went fucking psychon.
Speaker 4: And I think that's why I know Tim's over him.
But that's why I still love Derek is you know,
Derek's just that little pit bull that's smaller than everyone
else in the house. We can compete with the best
and biggest of them all.
Speaker 3: Derek could back in the day, I don't I don't
know that he could actually compete with them now.
Speaker 4: I mean I don't know this jump ahead a little bit,
but I mean I'm with him on the fact that
I think if he wasn't injured this season, he's still
on the show right now.
Speaker 3: But he's injured. He has the age factor in there,
like you can't like with this Laurel conversation and saying
you can't tell it, you can't say that, well, if
she were smaller than she wouldn't be as good. Well
if Derek were younger, then he might be better. So I
don't know.
Speaker 4: It just I don't know. I think if you're chalking
up his injury too he only got injured because of
his older age, then I agree with that. But if
it's just a freak accident, I think he could still
go with most of the Era two Air three people.
Speaker 5: Yeah, these hypotheticals are just always really weird, Like, well,
Brad could still be in the game if he didn't lose,
you know, really.
Speaker 3: It's just just because people are small doesn't mean that
they're not good at this game. It's just no sometimes
you've had an advantage because he's a lot bigger, but
that doesn't always.
Speaker 4: I guess we're get.
Speaker 3: True because sometimes you can be huge and have absolutely
no coordination, like Josh.
Speaker 4: I mean, if we just want to go just on
size alone. This season, we saw Derek take out Mark
in a physical challenge, not denying that.
Speaker 5: Ye. Yeah, the size is an advantage. It's not everything.
It's an advantage. Laurel uses it, Mark uses it, you
know whatever. Ye, that's what you use, the advantages you get.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so we've got this is actually, this is
exactly when THEO looks like he's standing on stairs or
the step stool next to Derek. God, I was watching
that scene and Derek doesn't even come up to his nipples.
It's so fucking funny.
Speaker 5: He's so little. This is they're in the locker room.
Speaker 3: They're in the locker room and they basically they make
a deal between Era four and Era one because Era
one is down to two people and they think that
two and three are already in an alliance, so they
want to try and keep their their eras out of
the elimination. This this episode.
Speaker 5: Just weird because wasn't it just like two episodes ago
that three and four working together. Yeah, so it's like
something fucking switched.
Speaker 3: The last like not even full episode, because when they
were saying this, I was like.
Speaker 5: I why are since when I thought the same thing,
like what did I miss here? I thought it was
three and four together, not two and three together.
Speaker 4: I think it really comes down to just who were
the team captains round and whereas in the past the
Vacation Alliance has had the power this round people that
you know, like Avery, who had ties to like Derek
or two, they had a lot more connections. So you know,
I think I think it'll flip each week depending on
which you know, which alliance is in the power position
make the call, and who.
Speaker 3: The targets are. I can agree with that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Like like next week, if we have Devin
and Tory when the Daily Challenge, you know they're gonna
protect the Vacation Alliance, which is three.
Speaker 3: And maybe not maybe not. All right, we are on
to the challenge.
Speaker 5: I'll smager. I didn't need it.
Speaker 2: Kitchen seriously not gonna play all right.
Speaker 5: I was there, I was there for it.
Speaker 3: We had a super dramatic like set of scenes leading
up and super dramatic walk up to the challenge, which
I was wondering why until TJ opened his mouth.
Speaker 2: It's his favorite movie of all time, my god.
Speaker 3: Like, don't get me wrong, I like the movie Gladiator,
but the mouth. If you if we played a drinking
game and every time someone said Gladiator you had to
take a drink. Uh, you'd be dead. You'd be dead
by the end of of this show.
Speaker 5: I loved these, like the you know, the pre challengehere.
It gets the groups together and makes them say fucking
weird shit, and you could say they were like they
tried to make them say Gladiator stuff, so it was
so awkward and hilarious. Kylond like gave it an honest
effort and he sounded stupid, and Devin just was fucking
Devin is just fucking around having fun with it. But yeah,
they every single person sounded ridiculous.
Speaker 3: This whole thing sounded so stupid. I was so over
with it the first thirty seconds. And yes, they put
on a the actual like a thirty second clip of
the trailer. I was like, are you why, Like this
show is already long enough and now weird devoted thirty
plus seconds of it to just the trailer for this movie.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well for this question is exclusively for you. Did
you hear about the bonkers Gladiator two that was pitched
like soon after Gladiator one. No, We're like Gladiator traveled
through time and he like fought battles in like World
War two and shit like he like fucking just like
that sounds awful. It's weird. Yeah, super weird. Obviously they
didn't make that.
Speaker 3: Sure.
Speaker 2: Someone pitched it and everybody was like, no, yeah, I
think fucking Russell Crowe pitched he wanted to be like he.
Speaker 3: Wanted to be a Terminator through time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I wanted to turn Gladiator into like a fucking
weird superhero guy.
Speaker 3: That's yeah.
Speaker 2: I questioned the viality of that pitch. I think it's
sounds like an Internet thing that took off. Everybody's like,
where the fuck did that come from?
Speaker 3: Maybe bizarre, but yeah, So if the whole game and
the rest of this episode are sponsored by Gladiator, the
game is called Battle for Honor. Uh. They are all
on this basically a dirt platform in the middle of
a pond, and they have to use shields Gladiator shields
to push their opponents off of the platform, and the
era with the most people standing at the end of
the game when.
Speaker 2: When whim shields I've ever.
Speaker 3: Seen, Yeah, they were like really really really sad plexiglass
with foam around them.
Speaker 5: Stove says he loves the challenge. I didn't because immediately
right away, Era one's not winning right there, for it.
They cannot. It is impossible.
Speaker 2: It's impossible for them to win unless everybody else besides
Derek gets eliminated.
Speaker 5: Yep. So that fucking sucks. That fucking sucks. I'm pissed
about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so all you're doing to see who's gonna win.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I didn't realize that until afterwards when they
were announcing who came in last, and then it occurred
to me. But yeah, as soon as I saw that,
I was like, well, this is a dumb challenge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Literally, all three other teams would have to have
every single person on their team either fall off or
if everybody tied, they all have one person still left
on there. That's the only man.
Speaker 2: You could be like, well, I mean that's how that's
the rules, that's how it played out. But I'm just like, yeah,
but you could change the rules to whatever you want.
You could have been what team had the least amount
of players eliminated. Guess what Era one wins. They're the
winners now. Yeah, so that set of rules fucking stupid.
Speaker 5: Yeah that's because, yeah, this isn't a real game with
established rules. We can change the rules on the day
up on the morning, like as it's a game show.
Speaker 3: I really hate first Challenge because it was just boring
to watch because it's just a bunch of people hitting
each other with shields and they're all falling to the
ground and then they're like stepping on top of each other.
So you've got that's.
Speaker 5: Where I disagree. I like that part half a.
Speaker 3: Second of someone hitting someone else but you can't tell
who it is who's hitting the other person, and then
it takes them a minute to get to stand back up,
and then they all reard. I don't know, I just
this whole challenge super fucking.
Speaker 2: Then then TJ says, if you get thrown into the water,
you're eliminated, unless people pile on top of you and
you don't stand up, and then you're also eliminated.
Speaker 5: I guess, yeah, they should have.
Speaker 2: Just made up at the middle of it. Yeah, probably
because the challenge is so completely fucking they don't know
what they're doing.
Speaker 3: It's not a fun I did not enjoy watching this challenge.
I want to to fast forward through the whole thing.
Speaker 5: I actually liked watching the challenge. I liked watching beat
the ship out of each other and push each other
and stuff. I thought that was fun. What about when
Corey went fucking nuts on THEO at the end, when
he realized, like the deal thing was not going to
work out and somebody who's have to win and so
for it. Corey just fucking went for it.
Speaker 3: They pushed each other do anything, They just kept like nothing.
Speaker 5: Cory did it. Cory did his thing on his chest.
It looked cool. No, it was cool. I like that part.
I like that part. Chatbody that Chris Stove backed me up.
That part was cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just and then Corey got all pissed off
at the end.
Speaker 5: And it was Zach Zach was that part.
Speaker 4: I'll back you up. Like the rules of the challenge
were dumb. But anytime we can get people like running
into each other, I enjoy it.
Speaker 3: I mean I don't. I don't mind things like haul
brol I just don't. I don't enjoy it in situations
like this because it's you have. Basically, it looks like
a little kid's soccer game. It's a big giant cluster
of bees all around you, like all these all these
little kids right around each other, and they're all so
close together that you can't see what's going on. And
then all of a sudden, somebody's on the ground. I mean, okay,
what's happening. And then they finally they were able to
stand back up again, but then you still can't see anything,
and it's just the whole thing he's moving together. I
thought it was dumb when the women went because they
were just like, I don't want to push you.
Speaker 4: I think their biggest mistake is putting a time limit
on it and being like, all you have to do
is survive. They should have been like, there is no
time limit and it goes until one team's left.
Speaker 3: N I agree. If they had done that, I think
it would have been a different game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I think a lot of people are just
trying to play like self preservation and like I don't
need eliminate people. I just need to make sure I
don't feel what Yeah, well.
Speaker 5: We saw toy do that, like specifically do that right?
And I think that's why I liked it, Carl, and
I feel like I could make out the parts I
needed to, Like, I saw that Tory was sort of
avoiding it and Derek was too. You know, I saw
that THEO was getting the shit kicked out of home.
It's like, I know, I see what I need to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I had to watch the whole thing and
actually pay attention to what was happening. Mm. Yeah, we
get when the women are up, Casey's excited about being physical,
like all the dudes are excited about physical because Casey
used to play tackle football. Amry doesn't want to fuck
on her face. Tory at one point in time is
kind of hiding off the side. Derek also pulls this
move like stands away from everybody else, but they stand
really close to the edge where if like someone got
it in their head to turn around and run at them,
they could very easily knock them off the platform.
Speaker 5: But nobody did, especially Derek can't get out of the way.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Ultimately Era one loses, and Derek seems to be surprised
that they're going that they lost.
Speaker 5: Like, Arek is stupid? He's so dumb, He's so dumb, dumb,
he has to be amongst the dumbest to ever play
this game. I mean, I'm not right, he really has
to be. He's just a really stupid.
Speaker 3: Guy, really does he just the look the way that
he I'm either that or he's a really, really, really
excellent actor, because he just he acts so surprised that
they lost, like, yeah, you have two people on your team, dude?
Speaker 5: Yeah hmm and.
Speaker 3: Era four Winds was anyone?
Speaker 4: Was anyone else kind of surprised? So, like a couple
of weeks ago, we saw Laurel like drow a challenge
to get rid of Emily when she was team captain.
We get the confessional from Laurel this episode being like, yeah,
Car and I don't get long, but she's nominated, so yeah,
it's my help. I'm gonna help her. It's like, why, like,
does she really just have that little respect for Car
where she's like Emily was a threat. Car is not.
Speaker 3: I guess so, I don't even know. The moment she
said that, I was.
Speaker 5: Like, what, Yeah, I didn't believe it. I don't know why.
I just didn't buy what. I don't know. It felt
weird that she said that. I didn't like that.
Speaker 3: I just I just really dislike Laurel. It's like everything.
I cannot wait for her to go home. I would
really love for that to happen next episode. That'd be great.
Speaker 5: She's my player in the in the draft, so I
don't want that.
Speaker 4: I think you.
Speaker 3: Were down to only three?
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, she's she's my best one left man.
Speaker 3: True, it might be your only chance of making a final.
Speaker 4: I don't keeping up ten. You're down to three. Oh wow,
I haven't. I haven't been keeping up the last couple
of weeks.
Speaker 5: It's not not looking good.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: Stove says that Laurel doesn't want to admit that Kara
that cars. I assume again, Kara might be as strong
or stronger than her. I agree with that.
Speaker 5: Yep, that's probably legit.
Speaker 3: All right. Uh, we're back in the house, and the
house kind of finds out that Era one and four
had a deal going into the game, and Devin specifically
is not happy about this because he wants to make
Era two squirm and he did not want to have
a deal with Ara two and doesn't have a deal
with Ara two, so he's not happy that four and
one are not with him. And then we're on to deliberation.
Speaker 5: Doesn't them, any, bitch, What do you need the real
I do a perfectly great job. You don't need the
real bumpers.
Speaker 3: They're all walking in cars. Kind of banking on her
history with THEO because she doesn't want a politic because
she's not very good at it. Avery seems to kind
of be expecting Derek to somewhat throw himself under the
bus because.
Speaker 5: She, Yep, Derek should. Avian's right, Derek should do it.
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't agree with that voluntare himself.
Speaker 5: Yep, he should. I don't agree with that Avery did
it to save Derek, he should do it to pay
her back.
Speaker 3: I don't agree with that. Like Avery did it when
she she was in the position of power she could
have chosen like they I realized that she she saved him,
But like this is something where they are now both
up for elimination. I don't know.
Speaker 5: So it's even it's even easy. It should be easier
for Derek at this point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's then putting his partner at risk, who
is not willing to do that. And I don't know
it just yeah, I I just don't agree.
Speaker 2: But that was a.
Speaker 5: As long as you as your openly hypocritical.
Speaker 3: No, just that I feel like they're they are two
different situations because in that situation, that was Tony just
being a dumb ass and choosing to go the opposite
way just because he thinks that it's something that would
be better for his game, and no one, no one
in that house thought that it would be.
Speaker 5: Why are you making this Tony's decision? This isn't this
Avery deciding for herself not to do Tony's thing to
protect her friend in the game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm saying that Tony could have changed that
outcome and he didn't. So I don't know. It just
I neither it required Derek.
Speaker 2: To throw Everybody in the house told Tony he was
begin a fucking moron.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think it's because we've all decided, yeah that Tony.
Tony's move was dumb. Avery's move was smart.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I feel like Derek throwing himself in here
would have been a dumb move.
Speaker 4: So I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just don't feel like he owed it to her.
I mean, he if if he were in the position
of power and she were down there, then yes, he
absolutely owes it to her to save her. But I
don't feel like it's his responsibility to throw himself in,
especially this much later in the game, because that was
super early in the game.
Speaker 5: Isn't that up to Avery to decide how to pay
her back though, because I'd actually argue that that's less
of a debt than being in power and substituting yourself then,
like you're about to go in anyway, like you're a
fifty to fifty shot, You're just you're just saying, I
guess it's me now. Chris says I'm wrong.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 5: I guys say I'm wrong, but I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm right.
Speaker 5: So that's it.
Speaker 4: I mean, I get at him. I definitely like looking
at Abriy a lot more than like, look.
Speaker 3: So Avery was annoying as fuck this episode.
Speaker 5: Yes she was.
Speaker 3: I was so annoyed with her this episode.
Speaker 2: By the way, did we skip over the fact that
Corey and Derek got to a fight?
Speaker 3: No, that's oh yeah. At the challenge I quickly mentioned
it but didn't get too far into it, or I
thought I mentioned it. I may have just read my
notes and not actually said that aloud.
Speaker 2: I wasn't paid attention.
Speaker 5: Sorry through a life jacket.
Speaker 3: Was really pissed at the at the end of the
challenge and was yelling at people and then started yelling
at Derek, saying that he held back because he felt
sorry for him because of his knee, and then Derek
got all pissed off, which I'm like, Derek, he very
obviously held back, like dude, you're broken, Like of course
he held back, and then Derek threw a life jacket
at him as he was walking away. So in the deliberation, uh,
you know, everybody has says their their peace, and then
they asked Derek and Rachel what they want, and Derek
basically calls out Corey without actually calling out Corey, and
they get I just I.
Speaker 2: Think Corey's like, just if you want to go against me,
just say yeah, h.
Speaker 3: Which yeah, it kind of feels pretty obvious because I
think Rachel is definitely on the side of like, yeah,
I've got a much better chance against Avery than I
do against Kara.
Speaker 5: So yeah, and I do think and he says it later,
but Derek wants to prove something. He wants to like
go to this or a broken leg and beat Corey,
and so I do think he wanted the bigger something.
Speaker 3: Ever since he first stepped foot on the challenge fifty
years ago.
Speaker 5: But here's my hot take. I think I think going
into this, he knows like, I'm gonna probably lose this,
Like I've got this bum leg, I'm probably gonna lose it.
I'd rather lose it to Corey than to Derek, because
that's a that's a more badass way to lose. And
I don't blame Derek, but I do think that was
part of his sort of I.
Speaker 3: Could also just see him having an ego about this.
Speaker 5: So yeah, well that too, I mean say, different side
of the same coin, I guess.
Speaker 4: And I don't have. If we do get Derek versus Derek,
I think are might have stayed this episode.
Speaker 5: We never know, but I don't know. You never know.
Speaker 3: His in the last seriously, last season he blew me
out of the how well he did, so I I
don't know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's more questionable than it was before all start.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Like I'm not disagreeing with you. I
think there is a much higher chance that Kazinski would
have stayed, a much much higher chance. But I don't
think you can count Chaves out like we could. I
don't know five years ago.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's definitely yeah, I've never seen Chaves try to
fight someone, so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's definitely not as much of a fluff player
as I originally thought he was.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So everybody walks out of the deliberation. Era three
is talking and Corey says that he doesn't like that
Rachel didn't say anything and that he let or she
let Derek basically say that he wanted to go against
them and not that she wanted to go against Avery, whatever,
and then Jordan says something about how their team is
really good at holding grudges.
Speaker 5: It's weird, by the way, just because you just throw
Joyn's name out. It's weird how these like big, heavy
hitter guys, these that are normally like the focus of
the season, we don't are not seeing them at all.
Jan and Jordan and Kara and Bananas said like three
things each this episode.
Speaker 3: They're super background right now.
Speaker 5: It's weird. These are like the all like these are
the main characters always.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's I feel like it's because we don't
have any rookies in this season. It's a bunch of
I mean, not heavy hitters, but it's a bunch of
seasoned players. So everybody wants their screen time and every
Bananas how to do it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Wes had a theory on Banana's podcast because you know,
they gonna talk about Bananas not being featured a lot
that He's like, I think they're trying to like slowly
like kind of fade you guys out, and this is
like your big like you know, curtain call, and they're
kind of try to focus on the Era three Air
four in the future.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think that's a smart move. I hate it,
but I think that's a smart move.
Speaker 4: Hum.
Speaker 3: All right, and then we've got uh, let's see, oh,
I've just lost my place in the notes. Uh. Air
four is talking. Michelle is trying to make the case.
So they're basically THEO and Jenny have after everybody walked
out of deliberation, THEO and Jenny talked because they're the
two that are getting to make this decision, and they
make the decision in that room, saying that they're going
to go for Air three, but they want to quote
unquote put it to a vote with their entire team
so that they aren't the only ones taking the heat
for this decision. So they bring it to their team
and start having this whole conversation like, oh, let's vote
on who's gonna go in, and Michelle is trying really
hard to make a case to not go for Era
three and go for Era two instead, but she seems
to be the only voice saying that she and Kyland
are the only two who were saying they should go
for Era two instead of Era three, and ultimately it
ends up being Era three, and this just starts off
a whole ship storm for the rest of the episode.
THEO and Jenny go over and tell Era three that
they're going in.
Speaker 5: Well, before you get there, first, Michelle said something about
like this being sort of a vote, but also sort
of a fake vote because they're gonna do what they're
gonna do, and so it wasn't a real thing.
Speaker 3: Well that's where this comes in. So they tell Ara
three that they're going in, and then we've got a
scene of Devon and Michelle and Devin asks her was
that vote real? Was it really a five to two
vote for Era three? And she gives him the whole
rundown on what it all meant and basically saying, like
we know that THEO and Jenny came in with their
their minds made up like this was Yeah, this was gear.
The way that they presented the info made it look
like we wanted Air three as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so I'm pissed at Jenny and THEO because
this is pussy shit.
Speaker 3: This is like pussy shit, Like, if you want to.
Speaker 5: This is just not owning the decision here.
Speaker 3: Do you want to go for Ara three, then fucking
go for Air three. Like, Jenny, you are one of
the strongest women in this house. If you want to
call out someone else to like, if you want to
get one of the other strong women out of this house,
then fucking throw Kara in there. Don't throw Avery in.
But if you just want to throw averyan because you
have a relationship with Kara, then fucking say so.
Speaker 5: Yeah. But then I'm also on Corey's side here too, right,
because even if it was a fake vote, Josh and
Casey should have aligned with him and them own the vote.
Even if it doesn't change Corey going in, it means
something to make those two own this vote. And so
Corey is right, I'm on Corey's side.
Speaker 3: I agree with that, yeah, because then we get a
we get Josh goes into talk to Corey and ask
Corey how he's feeling and Corey fucking pissed because Corey
thought that Casey and Josh were on his side, and
Josh basically just tells him like, oh, well, you know,
we went with how the vote was going and blah
blah blah blah blah. Well, Kyland mentions that if they
had if because of the or like the way they voted,
if Josh and Casey had voted in the other direction,
they could have actually swung that vote.
Speaker 5: Right and the vote didn't maybe didn't matter, but at
least now we know if it matters or not, you know,
and that also means something. So that's yeah, they should
have backed up Corey.
Speaker 2: Yep, so it would have been four to three step.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you know, I have little sympathy for
Corey because you know, who would have thought to keep
him here, Amanda. But she tried telling him this, She
warned him in the beginning of the season, like they
were going.
Speaker 3: To make it through path through week one anyway, Like
she may have been a vote for him, but she's like,
her gameplay is not good enough to make it this
far in this game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's I think players. Yeah, Corey's aligned,
Corey's aligned with people who aren't really that good at
the game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially this season. Yeah, and this whole, this whole
thing Josh and Casey not siding with Corey has made
Tory also wonder and Devin wonder if they should actually
be in an alliance with Casey and Josh, because Casey
and Josh seem to just be voting with where the
wind takes them. If if votes look like they're going
one direction, then they go that direction, even if they
are going against their alliance or going against their friends.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Well we've seen Josh do this all the time, right,
he makes so many promises. Yeah, see, this is this
is Josh's thing. Casey's more surprising. Casey seems like she
should know better.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't know why she didn't stand up for Corey.
Maybe they're just not as close as we think, but
I mean maybe.
Speaker 4: So. Here's why I think it could be a smart
move is Corey is not part of the Vacation Alliance,
and I think Tory and Devin would have loved them
to do their plan because it leaves the Vacation Alliance
in power. But really it leaves Tory and Devon in
that spot where they have more room to move. They
kind of get to call the shops. Whereas now this
kind puts Casey and Josh in the more power position
because they're getting rid of Tory and Devin's like, you know,
parachute plans to force them to be like, hey, you
have to do what we say because we're taking out
all your other allies. You have nowhere else to go
but us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Josh is just a moron. I don't feel
like he can run anything.
Speaker 2: So this is not a plan by Josh. This is
Josh following the leader like you always.
Speaker 4: Yes, Yeah, I mean we could call them them. Not
only has Casey won the season of Challenge, I mean
both Josh and Casey are back to back Big Brother winners.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Josh one because they didn't like Paul. That's the
only reason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you throw You pull that out there every time, Zach,
and it gets refuted every single time that he only
won because everyone didn't like the other person.
Speaker 2: He earned hers. I give Casey credit.
Speaker 4: Got So here's my argument to that, Laura, I'll only
want a sushi because she's tall. Oh does that mean
it's not valid? And we already have this debate?
Speaker 3: God, I can't. I can't with you, dude, I can't.
Speaker 5: Well, Zach, I agree with you. I don't watch Big Brother.
But there is a strategy and survivor of like you
want to finish with the shitty player so you get
the votes. Like, that's a strategy. Josh is a player,
but he but he got to the final with a
shittier player, so he won. Like that's a strategy, right,
that's a thing. Yeah, you can do.
Speaker 3: I think that was a strategy that he just happened
to fall into. I don't feel like he's able to
do it, wim.
Speaker 5: Don't you stand up. I'm staying. I'm staying up for Josh.
Speaker 2: Jo It was Josh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but still.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, shut up.
Speaker 2: It was Josh's plan to get to the final. Yeah yeah,
but still you had to follow Paul's lead because Paul
took them to the end.
Speaker 3: All right, Well we're also not talking about the brothers,
so all of you can just yeah, we're I.
Speaker 5: Need one more. Yeah, but still.
Speaker 2: Is a follower not a leader.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but still there we go.
Speaker 3: Sorry, following a well, regardless, Josh has now put his
game into his He and core. He and Casey have
both put some doubt in Tory in Devon's minds as
to whether they will actually end up voting with them
in future, anything exciting with them and actually being a
part of their alliance. And we're onto the elimination.
Speaker 4: To job.
Speaker 3: This elimination is called Fate of the Gladiators. And they
walk into the arena and it looks like there's a
boxing ring, like a six sided boxing ring in the middle,
eight sided boxing ring in the middle. The first time
we've seen this, or I guess the first really long time.
Speaker 2: I'm sure this was fucking stupid.
Speaker 5: This was this was so cool. I really liked this elimination.
I really liked this one, Zach, What did you think
of this one? I thought, I really liked this one.
This is so cool.
Speaker 4: I'm with Tim, like I feel like we get a
lot of recycled great ones like haul Brawl and Balls,
and I think this needs to be a new like constant.
This is our great new physics was so sticky.
Speaker 5: I agree with you, Zach.
Speaker 3: This is gonna rubber chickens on their feet, like, this
is so fucking stupid.
Speaker 5: I didn't see rubber chickens. I saw bell there's bells
on that and.
Speaker 3: They were wearing sweet They were literally standing on top
of rubber chickens.
Speaker 5: Oh I missed that. That's stupid.
Speaker 3: Four people who commented on it.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 4: I mean, I agree, standing on chickens the stupid. But
you know, I like the fact that you're blind flood.
You need to have lots of noise for the blind
flood and track you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the last time they did something like this,
we ended up in the whole Ammo issue Ammo and
Jordan thing where someone was blindfolded and they were going
after the other person and they're grabbing at each other's
crotches for it. Like this time, they're basically boxing someone. Like,
if you get someone like Rachel in there, like we
did this episode, you have Rachel who's basically beating the
shit out of someone else who has no recourse to
like put their hands up in front of their face
because there are the targets all you face.
Speaker 5: I think you could put your hands in front of
your face though we saw we saw them blocking, saw
them block.
Speaker 3: I think you can to an extent. But with the
way that Rachel was going, so okay, pause, the game
is they're both competitors, are standing in the ring, there's
a five minute time limit. One player is the striker,
who has on boxing gloves and a blindfold, and the
other person is the evader, who has targets filled with
paint powder all over them and bells, and they're standing
on top of stupid squeaky shoes which have rubber chickens
on them. And the whole point is that the striker
needs to bust all of the targets on the evader,
and each person gets a turn at this women go first,
Rachel versus Avery. Rachel is up first as the striker.
Rachel says that she does karate. She fucking demolishes Avery.
She beats the shit out of Avery, and yeah, Avery
has on a head piece and like some body armor,
but she is she looks visibly shaken. Like you have
someone who knows how to box, literally beating someone else up,
and then expect that person to turn around and have
any like wherewithal to then try and hit their targets.
Speaker 5: Carlin, that's the game. That's the fucking game. Rachel's better
at the game, so she wins.
Speaker 2: The person who thought it a big disadvantage.
Speaker 5: I don't know if that's totally true, because both like
I did think about that. I don't know which is
I don't know if it's better to go first or second,
because you're tired on both Like, either way, you're going
against a tired person.
Speaker 2: Avery got punched in the face like twenty times. Yeah,
and then has to turn around and put a blindfold
on and try.
Speaker 5: To But in theory, anybody would have been punched in
the face twenty times. Just Rachel was better at being
punched in the face.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Game is fucking stupid.
Speaker 3: First person got punched in the face twenty times, and
then Rachel ran around the ring like she had no
like it was no big deal at all.
Speaker 5: Avery could have done that. I realized that Avery had
not yet.
Speaker 3: Been Avery's a moron and didn't actually move, She just
said there.
Speaker 5: I realized she played a much worse game, so she
deserved to lose the game.
Speaker 3: She couldn't have run around. But you're saying that both
of them are tired. Rachel didn't look tired at all.
Avery looked visibly dazed.
Speaker 5: That's because because lost the game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, then Rachel and Rachel's job is fitness. Like she's
by anything, She's probably just gonna be more endurance than Avery,
and any type of.
Speaker 3: Endurance is not that big of a deal. It's the
fact that they had someone punching the other person in
the face for five minutes.
Speaker 4: And I loved it.
Speaker 3: It was amazing, Like they couldn't don't they couldn't go
back for.
Speaker 5: It, like I think they could. We saw it with
the men.
Speaker 3: They each other way then down, but then they'd have
to come back up because you have to have your
face available because there were two on there's one on
either cheek and one on their forehead.
Speaker 4: I think again, Jordan's I think it's Jordan to make
comments about were like how she's like has her hands
down by her sense of up guarding her face, Like
so I think you can't have your hands up like
in a boxing match. I just watched enjoy this game.
Speaker 5: And we just watched the men do it like I mean,
I can picture the Corey just like swiping Derek's hands
away like it like we saw the men do it,
so it must have been allowed.
Speaker 3: I just I did not enjoy it.
Speaker 5: I you didn't enjoy it because it was so unfairly
stacked between Rachel and Avery.
Speaker 2: No, the whole game was just fucking stupid in general.
Speaker 5: Yeah, when they were when it was Derek and Corey
and there was just puffs of like blue and red smoke,
you guys weren't like that was fucking cool. That was
a cool shot, Like this is dumb. You guys are insane.
That was fucking cool.
Speaker 2: This is like the dumbest I was not.
Speaker 5: I was, Oh, man, I really liked this one. I
thought this one was really cool.
Speaker 2: If you wanted something similar, they should have done the
one where you have to yank the vulcro patches off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but again, like I said, I mean it's that would.
Speaker 2: Have been better.
Speaker 5: Well, Carla mentioned that one. But there was also the one.
Remember a fucking Knight and Preston did one where it
was you hit it with a fucking yardstick, you know,
instead of that one.
Speaker 3: I loved that was hysterical.
Speaker 5: They were like crawling on the ground like fucking spiders.
Speaker 3: Break the stick on each sho That when I thought
was funny because both of them are the same time,
and they're both doing this at the same time.
Speaker 5: And you're relying on your partner right saying like go
to the right or down or whatever.
Speaker 3: I loved it was not one person beating the ship
out of the other person.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't mind that, because this is that's a
skill issue.
Speaker 2: And like, you know, all right, Tim, let's do this elimination.
I get to go first, and I'm just gonna punch
you in the face over and over for five minutes.
Speaker 5: I would not allow myself to be punching the face.
I would not being Avery. What the fuck was she doing?
Speaker 3: You you say that, yeah, I say agree to disagree ultimately.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think we should do this and
put it on Patreon. It will get lots of people
signing up. Zach.
Speaker 5: I'm just loving that me and you, Me and you
are are paired up on all these fights and we
are the right ones Carlyn, and I want all the
listeners of chime in on who's right and all these fights,
Me and Zack every time, every time, every time.
Speaker 3: I loved it so and like Avery also very obviously
did not have any sort of strategy. She was not
moving the way that she should have. She was basically
just standing still letting Rachel hit her. That's the other problem.
Whereas Rachel had like she comes in with a strategy
of I'm going to try to keep my head as
far away from her as I can and out of her,
out of her reach because there are four targets on
my head and I don't want her to get those.
And then the men go and Corey versus Derek. They
like derek'sknee is very obviously bothering him. Corey at one
point in time straight up holds on to Derek to
hit to get all of the targets. Yeah, they they
both do a pretty decent job. It goes relatively quickly
for both of them, and by the end of it
like it's ours off, with Corey saying that this is
personal because Derek threw the life jacket at him and
Corey was. They were yelling at each other and also thing.
But by the end of it, they hug and they
thank each other for both going like full throttle, not
pulling any punches anything like that.
Speaker 5: I did like this this is this is this is dude,
this is dude bro stuff, Like I thought. They fought
it out and then they hug, and then there.
Speaker 3: Was that I appreciated that.
Speaker 4: That was true Gladiator war right there, it wasn't true.
Speaker 5: And there were no tigers. We need a fucking tiger
in that ring.
Speaker 4: Well, I thought I thought that was a very good
chance that Avery was gonna die, So we got close.
Speaker 3: Anyway. Ultimately, Rachel very obviously wins because she got all
the targets and Avery miss six. And then with Derek
and Corey, TJ does his typical like Derek you didn't
win likes, which I have a question for you guys.
Do we actually think that Derek did not win because
he was a little bit slower or do you think
it was the producers were tired of him hobbling around
on his hurt leg.
Speaker 5: I think he lost.
Speaker 4: I think he lost. I think the the producers would
have loved the story of a one legged man winning
a fighting contest.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm on the fence, like, I don't. I think
that he did actually lose, But I don't think they.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think that they would want the want him
still in there because he's very obviously seriously injured.
Speaker 5: Did you guys read about the Harassio versus Derek controversy? No,
the remember the Zach I'm sure you did. The elimination
between Derek and Rossio.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we had discussed in here where the
producers had to literally show them like the un edited
clip to prove.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So that's the reason I think maybe this had
to be fair because I think Derek would have wanted
to fucking see that shit again, right if there was
if there was any doubt Derek Wuldham not. I don't
think Derek would have been down for that to like
be kicked out, you know, base on his leg essentially.
I think you would have fought and wanted to see
the tapes. That's my fear.
Speaker 2: Maybe Derek doesn't.
Speaker 5: Know, maybe, but I just think he lost. I just think,
I mean, he's just slower. I liked the elimination, and
I think Derek was just probably slower because he had
one leg, like of course he was. I don't know.
This seems easier for me to believe that Derek did
it slower.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whose targets episode?
Speaker 3: Alright, so nominations for the next episode they go four
through two one?
Speaker 5: Uh finally right, why take it most?
Speaker 3: It makes him wonder if we just have only ever
seen them play it in uh era one, two, three, four,
and they have actually switched it up every episode. I
don't know.
Speaker 5: Also, if you'll note, TJ does not say target that
I heard. He just says pick a player.
Speaker 3: Target that good, good looking out there.
Speaker 5: I wonder if that's gonna we'll see if that matters.
Speaker 3: So Era four, it's Casey and Kyland. They both nominate themselves.
ERA three, Devin nominates himself and so does Torri. Era two,
uh No, women nominated themselves and Laurel ends up getting picked. Ryan.
Speaker 5: Hear Banana, We hear Bananas say, don't nominate yourself, don't
do it.
Speaker 3: But Ryan nominates himself and then ERA one, Rachel is
the only player. So Rachel is in.
Speaker 5: Why did Why did? Why did Ryan finally nominate himself?
Is this just peer pressure ship? I don't know, nobody cares.
Speaker 3: No idea, I just I don't. I don't know if
there's a a reason, I don't know. If it's Bananas.
Speaker 4: Finally got maybe maybe if you know, he knew like
if their era won the next challenge, he didn't want
Banana's Laurel having absolute power that way if they win
now at recent he could stand up to Laurel and
fight for what you want.
Speaker 3: Totally valid reason.
Speaker 2: I like that, Yeah, uh something. Since we're talking about Ryan,
we did get a comment on Spotify from Nicole. We're
talking last week about Johnny getting all over Ryan about
nominating himself. So fun fact. Also, Ryan has actually been
an elimination round this season and Johnny hasn't. Johnny hasn't
done anything this season except complaining.
Speaker 5: True.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I had to go back and look at
the at the Wikipedia to see because I couldn't remember
that Ryan was actually in an elimination. He was in
the very first elimination. He was in that against I
just lost the other player, Brandon. That's right, elimination.
Speaker 5: They're like blocking a room or some ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and he won against Brandon.
Speaker 2: So Simone said, Jenny and Johnny hooked up during Total Madness,
but it wasn't shown.
Speaker 5: We talked about that, I think on that.
Speaker 2: She did on Morgan with her. They broke up soon after.
Speaker 3: That's surprised.
Speaker 2: That sounds like Johnny allegedly.
Speaker 4: Also a reminder that Banana Banana, same Bananza has done
nothing this season. Banana has won the very first like
power spot of the season with Laurel Oh.
Speaker 2: It's a team season, so.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Yeah, he hasn't done anything.
Speaker 5: Then that's the episode, right, That is the episode. All right,
Then we'll see what's next and we.
Speaker 2: Don't get a comment on Facebook and says, in a way,
Devin made the rotation go back to how it was intended.
Wasn't Corey supposed to self nominate the week CT did,
Cory and Josh backed out and Devin and Kyland were
chosen instead.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I can't keep track of all this stuff, but I
did notice, for gee what happens. I do too, But
Devin nominated it stuff this week. But I do wonder
if it's because he was saving himself for Tory. Like
him wanting to be paired to Tory makes sense if
they're both nominated. So I don't know. We'll see, We'll
see how all works out time.
Speaker 2: Do we have any reviews?
Speaker 4: You know what?
Speaker 5: We do have one. I wasn't sure if this was
gonna actually like keep working this charitable, but it did.
We have one from heel w via Apple Podcasts, says
Derek the Derek heate is crazy. Uh sorry, I'm gonna
keep doing that though, coming from the pod that talked
about how much Durrell is making a mockery of his legacy,
That to you, Carlyn, the more he competes on these
newer seasons as hilarious most Fans do love Derek, do
love that Derek is fighting through it. Uh that is true,
which is weird. Fans love this shit. I hate this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it annoys me as well.
Speaker 5: I'm sure if you were on a show fighting for
five hundred thousand, you do everything you could to stay too. Sure,
But I think I'd be realistic if you, if you
are Derek, you are not gonna win this final, like
you just how could you possibly do it? So we
have to be the moment that.
Speaker 3: He sucked up his knee. Every chance that he even
remotely had went out the window. He should have left immediately.
He should have left.
Speaker 5: Let Brad and Drell have a have a chance. Because yes,
now Derek has stayed on for.
Speaker 3: We're going to win this season, but they had more
of a chance than Derek. I feel like they could
have stayed for more episodes. There's a higher chance that
Era one would have had more players for a longer
period of time.
Speaker 5: It could have changed things. And you should have done it,
like you just should have done it.
Speaker 2: I don't remember if I said who said the Facebook
one that was Kelly? Well, thanks for all the not
the Kelly we've met, but Kelly on the Facebook group.
Speaker 3: Thanks for all of the feedback and the info, guys,
we really appreciate it. Keep it coming, Tim.
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Speaker 5: All right, five dollars a month. You get access to
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You can hear about Carlin's diarrhea.
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Nobody has left one yet except for somebody that hung
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Speaker 5: I do. Yeah, they're up on the discord. You can
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Speaker 3: Thanks so done. Thanks guys, you.
Speaker 5: Yeah all that stuff, Zach.
Speaker 2: Do you have a social media stough?
Speaker 4: We do? Uh, we have. For the first time in
two years, Coral has made her return to social media.
Uh just ever update everyonun that she's working as a
is it pronounced a doula yea?
Speaker 5: Yep?
Speaker 4: Yes. And then probably the other big thing we had
this week is uh, yesterday was the premiere of the
new season of House of Villains being Wes Bergman. Uh,
did any of you guys watch it?
Speaker 3: Nope?
Speaker 5: No, I wish I could, dude, I wanted to have
watched that part one too. I just never got around
any of it.
Speaker 4: It's really good. We's uh, Wes seems to be running
the show right now, so it's fun.
Speaker 5: Like westest thing.
Speaker 4: Yep, everyone's buying it except Richard Hatch. Richard Hatch had
some clocked and wants him out.
Speaker 5: I don't know Richard hatches on it. That's crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: And apparently, and probably the funniest thing I don't know,
Wes is apparently longtime friends with Tiffany New York Collard.
Speaker 3: Interesting. I didn't know that.
Speaker 5: I'm really not surprised about that too.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And then the only other social media is I
have is a Tyler who was on from Big Brother
Casey's season and also us a two.
Speaker 5: Uh curly curly blonde hair guy. Yes, super boring guy.
Speaker 4: Yes. He's announced that he will be part of season
four of the TV show Outer Banks.
Speaker 3: What's that.
Speaker 5: I've never heard of that either.
Speaker 4: It's like a team drama on Netflix.
Speaker 5: Oh, he's making it. He's making it to legit scripted television. Yes,
from reality that's scripted.
Speaker 4: Yes, I think I think it's just like a cameo
and if he's got like a big role, but he's
making his way over there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember not being impressed by him.
Speaker 4: Oh, I guess the other funny thing, did you guys
see the photo? Cory tweeted out, yes, holding up the heads, Yes,
as a gladiator holding up Derek and Brad's heads. He's
cut off.
Speaker 5: Yep, And I gotta say too. I loved the transition
of Corey being spent the whole episode sort of being fact,
nobody's my friend, nobody's looking out for me. To the
end when he takes out these two guys and he's
so hyped and he's like, fucking He's ready to go
and take on the whole house. I'm like, that's you, Corey,
you get it. So excited for Corey, Wolfy Carlin, pay attention,
pay attention.
Speaker 3: He Corey also says he makes some joke about him
looking like a troll, but he just did.
Speaker 5: That because he's all red and shit, oh gotcha, Okay,
like Poppy the Troll, you know who? Oh my god, girl, dad, shit, guys,
come on, Poppy the Troll. No idea, Poppy, Poppy the
troll from the fucking movies from the Three Troup?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, why would any of us just.
Speaker 4: Care about this?
Speaker 5: Justin Timberlake is in this ship and Anna Kendrick, this
is like pop culture? Do you not know this stuff?
Speaker 3: Because we don't have kids.
Speaker 5: But I loved it. I was like, that's that's the girl.
Dad love I got you, I know who Poppy is,
and he's like yeah, he was like excited, he was having.
Speaker 3: I was thinking troll, like troll under a bridge or
troll on the underwebs and immediate.
Speaker 2: I don't think I think he's talking about trolls, sticking
the movie troll with Sonny Bono.
Speaker 5: This is the movie Trolls with Ken Jack.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 2: Do somebody want to do Fantasy league?
Speaker 3: Yeah, since Zach did not do.
Speaker 2: Apparently, I forgot to pick a lineup this week.
Speaker 5: Yes, thank you, thank you both.
Speaker 3: Well'na, we're gonna start with so yet again. I picked
up the scores from Zach's league.
Speaker 4: I picked a lineup, and my just sucked.
Speaker 5: All right, well you had a lineup on the public league.
Speaker 3: Guys, we still have a host league.
Speaker 5: Hold on you.
Speaker 3: In the host league, Zach Bananas is beating the ship
out of all of us. He's yes, he also still
has eight players.
Speaker 5: Zach, you said a bitch wolf.
Speaker 3: He's in second with seventeen hundred points. He still has
five players. I'm in third with just under fourteen hundred points.
I have four players, and Big Uncle Sweet Tea is
at thirteen hundred points with three players.
Speaker 5: But Laurel, I got you have Laura money Laurel's yeah,
and you.
Speaker 3: Have Ryan who's so we have your three players are
up for elimination or up for not elimination, up for
as targets next episode.
Speaker 5: Oh great, great, hmm that's oh yeah, you did Zach. Yeah,
well you scored a few points last episode. Ye all right, yeah, no,
you did bad.
Speaker 3: And in the public league, uh, first place is Garrett
h I touched Johnny's Johnny's Banana with fifteen hundred and
sixty five. Second place is CT Phone Home with fifteen
fifty six.
Speaker 5: And I'm in oh my golly, nine points guys, nine
points separate one and two crazy.
Speaker 3: I'm in third place with fourteen seventy two. And then
we have.
Speaker 5: Big Ocle Sweet Tea. Second place among the hosts, thank you.
Speaker 3: In twenty six is Big Uncle Sweet Tea, twenty eight
is Zachie Bananas, and in twenty ninth is Wolfy and
Wolfy Yep, Wolfy did not put any picks in for
last week. Zach. Zach scored fifty eight points. Last week,
you picked car Rachel and Tory.
Speaker 2: I got the reminder and I was like, oh, I
put my lineup in already, so I don't I don't
need to worry about.
Speaker 4: It, right, you would you would think with Rachel beating
the crap out of Abriy, i'd get more points from her.
But yeah, I'm.
Speaker 3: Actually really surprised that Rachel only got twenty three points. Also,
I figured I would have thought that this lineup would
have scored a lot more. I thought that Devin would
score more on that. Let's see, big, uncle, sweet tea,
you picked. I got Corey, Baby, Corey Corey, who scored
one hundred and forty nine points.
Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, I'm telling you I'm going I'm going big
if if you see, I picked everybody except for Carr.
I picked everybody that was up for elimination. I'm going
for it, baby, I'm not playing. I'm not slow playing
this shit anymore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got Jenny and THEO in there as well,
and then I picked Where's Mine? Last week? I picked Corey,
Derek Chavez, Devin and Theo. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And what do we think, guys, what do you think?
Are we going to move down to eliminating one player
at a time or something, or is this going to
be a shorter season than we're used to?
Speaker 4: See?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: It's we were still knocking out two players at a
time in episode eight, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess being that we're down to one
player on Era one, I would think that they have
to start knocking out just one at a time, because.
Speaker 5: It doesn't Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 3: I mean, how are they if if they if they're
picking two, then I don't know. I just it doesn't
make a whole lot of sense to me. And then
in the other one in the Weekly Budget League, the
for CRISPI five, it's actually this top three. I touched
Johnny's Banana, c T Phone Home and myself and then
zach Is in six and Big O'cle Sweet Teas in thirteen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, not doing so hot on that one. It's fun though.
I enjoyed doing that.
Speaker 3: I'm enjoying them too. It's it's a lot of fun
to pick these people and been like, I think based
on the next week on this is gonna happen like
this this week, there was no way in hell I
was putting Derek in there, like, yeah, Kazinski, no way
in hell.
Speaker 5: It's just that he's gonna go home.
Speaker 3: Answer yeah, oh yeah, he was like he's going to
go home for everything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, same.
Speaker 3: I was gonna be honestly, if he did not go
home this episode, I was gonna be so fucking floored,
so fucking floored. But but he went home, so it
doesn't matter. Yeah, that's everything for the challenge or for
the fantasy leaks.
Speaker 2: Good times all right at over challenge dot Com, joined
the Facebook group, joined the Patreon fun Stuff look out
for the upcoming album. As Tim pointed out, it's coming,
it's coming. None of the other three hosts actually took.
Speaker 3: Pictures, and well, we took pictures when we were all
in a big group together, but we did not send
an individual pictures.
Speaker 5: No, it's silly for me to think you'd put ten
minutes worth of work into it. Now I get it.
Speaker 2: Tim gets to see what it's like. All right, everybody,
have a good night. I guess that's it for this
episode of Challenges been.
Speaker 4: Brian Big, san Diego, Zaki Bananas.
Speaker 2: And as Uh, Corey I think said, why was it?
Why was it five versus two? Josh, let's go
Speaker 3: On, he me, I hold my knees right here, looks
like