Speaker 1: Hmmm.
Speaker 2: Coming to you from the dining room table at East
Speaker 2: Barbary Lane. Welcome to a new episode of Full Circle
Speaker 2: the Podcast. A visit to our home where we squeeze
Speaker 2: a few headlines through our decidedly queer lens and see
Speaker 2: what happens. This episode is brought to you by Decanted
Speaker 2: jug Wine, Winter Spring, Summerfall, Winter, all in one week
Speaker 2: and Amateur Night.
Speaker 3: I'm your host Gerles Tyson Junior.
Speaker 2: And I'm your host Martha Madrigal. Welcome to the Full
Speaker 2: Circle Table. Hi, baby, honey.
Speaker 3: That's my favorite season, Winter spring, summer falls, all in one.
Speaker 2: Sweater on leopard coat, on shorts and a tank top,
Speaker 2: like all the windows open, the windows. Yeah right, we
Speaker 2: went what was it the one night? One day it
Speaker 2: was like seventy nine degrees literally and thirty five or
Speaker 2: so that night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, crazy, And then last night it was like in
Speaker 3: the low thirties and windy, a is hail, Like.
Speaker 2: I told you I was.
Speaker 3: I checked under the car when I got to work
Speaker 3: to make sure there wasn't a pair of feet and
Speaker 3: striped socks sticking out underneath because.
Speaker 2: Kind of yeah, I heard the wind and I saw it,
Speaker 2: you know, shaking up the trees last night and and
Speaker 2: it's we are recording Saint Patrick's Day, Yes, amateur night,
Speaker 2: hence amateur night. Yeah, I this time of year, I
Speaker 2: cannot help but think about the what was it called
Speaker 2: the air and express? Is that? With that? God? I
Speaker 2: still get nightmares. And we never participated as bar owners,
Speaker 2: but that thing where they rent like it's school buses
Speaker 2: full of very drunken people wearing green going from bar
Speaker 2: to bar to bar and vomiting in the street and yeah,
Speaker 2: god knows what else. Yeah, a pub crawl. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: they were doing them like every weekend in March.
Speaker 3: Right, it used to be on Saint Patrick's Day proper,
Speaker 3: and then or if it wasn't on the weekend, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was the weekend before, and then it became the
Speaker 3: weekend before, and then the weekend before that, and then
Speaker 3: just became every weekend in March.
Speaker 2: Do they do it again? I mean I know because
Speaker 2: then we had COVID, But like, did that pick back up?
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, But what a mess.
Speaker 2: What a mess.
Speaker 3: I tried to not pay attention when it was happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember someone offering and I said, oh hell no,
Speaker 2: hell to the fuck now, we don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm too cute for jail.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's and it's like they you know, come
Speaker 2: unmasks and then they're there. I don't even know how
Speaker 2: long they're there, half hour maybe something like.
Speaker 3: That, long enough to make a huge mass mess.
Speaker 2: Right right, long enough to need to hose everything down, right.
Speaker 3: They leave you with a mess and PTSD.
Speaker 2: That's not fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well I told you about the story my bestde Lisa.
Speaker 3: This is like years and years ago, and she was
Speaker 3: on the bus and there was this couple. They were
Speaker 3: they had had their day on the air and express
Speaker 3: and the girl was really really really really drunk and
Speaker 3: she kept like slumping over on Lisa and Lisa kept
Speaker 3: pushing her over and after about the third time, she
Speaker 3: help holds the girl up with one hand, looks past
Speaker 3: her to the boyfriend, was like, if she lands on
Speaker 3: me again, I will slap her.
Speaker 2: And she did and she did. That makes me think
Speaker 2: of the time we were dancing, probably the last time
Speaker 2: we went dancing at Voyer. Oh god, when when that
Speaker 2: There were two lesbians on the dance floor and they
Speaker 2: kept the one and kept slamming into me, and I
Speaker 2: apologized and pushed you into her and she hit the floor.
Speaker 2: Remember that he using me as a projectile I did,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry and made her land. Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that should tell you how long ago it was,
Speaker 3: because there were queer people at Voyeur.
Speaker 2: That were right exactly exactly some right right he was
Speaker 2: already being you know, yeah, but there were some and
Speaker 2: I just I remember that because it was really annoying
Speaker 2: and she was like stepping on me, and I kept
Speaker 2: kind of moving and then here she is again and moving,
Speaker 2: and here she is again. I'm sorry, I shoved you
Speaker 2: knocked the right hour. I mean, she was having a
Speaker 2: bowling pin.
Speaker 3: She was having trouble differentiating between the one and the
Speaker 3: three and the two and the four. You want her
Speaker 3: to have front, back, left and right together too.
Speaker 2: I wanted. I wanted personal space, is what I wanted.
Speaker 2: I know. Yeah not maybe not my finest movement. But
Speaker 2: what are you going to do? Crazy week? We've got
Speaker 2: a ton of stuff, a ton of things to mal
Speaker 2: I did do the Women's History Month panel.
Speaker 3: Yes, you did this past week, and you rocked that ship.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. You really did good experience. It
Speaker 2: was good to be included in the conversation.
Speaker 3: And you were among some fears company.
Speaker 2: I know it was kind of great and there was
Speaker 2: a good back and forth discussion. Yeah, instead of just
Speaker 2: folks answering questions, we were discussing the answers to the
Speaker 2: questions as well. It was good. I liked it, had fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and your candor from the gidde up softened the
Speaker 3: rest of the women up so that they felt freer
Speaker 3: to express themselves more fully than they might have so quickly. Huh,
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: My candor huh. Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out
Speaker 2: exactly what you mean by that.
Speaker 3: But well, no, because, like you would, you led with
Speaker 3: your usual like wit and clarity and dare I say,
Speaker 3: cynicism at times, well rightly earned and appropriate. But when
Speaker 3: you like first introduced that into the conversation, injected into
Speaker 3: the conversation, I should say, at first they were like
Speaker 3: and then they were like, yeah, okay, I'll take it.
Speaker 2: I'll take it. Yeah, it was fun. I had a
Speaker 2: good time, and it's you know, it's a lot of
Speaker 2: good back and forth, a lot of good feedback afterwards.
Speaker 2: I was invited to already invited to participate next year
Speaker 2: and I plan to the Yeah, that was at our
Speaker 2: local Teachers Union, which was great, and it was you know,
Speaker 2: an important it's an important topic and I know that.
Speaker 2: I did also mention, you know, being in the news
Speaker 2: and then being you know, it's it's kind of important
Speaker 2: to also be in the discussion, correct and et cetera.
Speaker 2: Always and how you know, diversity is strengths and we
Speaker 2: always get better outcomes when there are more of us
Speaker 2: sharing at the table. Indeed, I know that's such a
Speaker 2: foreign concept these days. It shouldn't be exactly. Yeah, So
Speaker 2: it was good. I was glad I did it. It
Speaker 2: was fun. I'm glad I was there. I've got another
Speaker 2: talk coming up on May second.
Speaker 3: Because you are what booked and blessed Booked and blessed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and another one I'm in the works for June.
Speaker 2: And you know, we'll see what else happens.
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Speaker 3: There you go and click this contact us page until
Speaker 3: I go ahead and set up a book us page
Speaker 3: because apparently it's going to have to happen. Hey why not,
Speaker 3: Hey we have someone that left us. Yes, recently, Judy
Speaker 3: Pace passed away this past week.
Speaker 2: Took me a minute to recognize her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she passed away at eighty three. She was famous
Speaker 3: for appearing Hayton Place and Brian's Song. She was once
Speaker 3: described by Variety as the most beautiful black actress in Hollywood.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, she died in.
Speaker 3: Her sleep on Wednesday while visiting family in Marina del Rey.
Speaker 3: I remember her in She was in a couple episodes
Speaker 3: of What's Happening. The one in particular that I'm thinking
Speaker 3: of is the one where Roger he was in the
Speaker 3: hospital and she played the nurse and he was like
Speaker 3: all infatuated with her, and she was just like trying
Speaker 3: desperately not to laugh at him.
Speaker 2: Okay. Black exploitation was a big part of her home career. Apparently.
Speaker 2: I was reading her a little bit in the New
Speaker 2: York Times.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was described as a stone fox.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 3: She was in a Cotton Comes to Harlem in nineteen
Speaker 3: seventy she played the seductive Iris.
Speaker 2: Yes, and Peyton Place, which I don't remember, so that
Speaker 2: must have been a thing that was gone. I know
Speaker 2: my ya had awareness Peyton Place. I knew the name
Speaker 2: Peyton Place. I knew it as a reference to like
Speaker 2: drama and yeah, yeah, and the you know Genie c
Speaker 2: Riley song, right, that's all Harper Valley, PDA that one.
Speaker 2: But so I knew the idea of it, but not
Speaker 2: the because I believe it was a soap opera.
Speaker 3: Yes, from the sixties, she played a backstabbing schemer, oh my.
Speaker 2: And she won.
Speaker 3: In nineteen seventies, she won an NAACP Image Award for
Speaker 3: her role as an unapologetic career woman on the series
Speaker 3: The Young Lawyers Okay, yeah, all right, which I never
Speaker 3: knew about until reading about.
Speaker 2: It off well, As is often the case, we like,
Speaker 2: you know, hear these names and then look back and go,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, She'll say, did that right?
Speaker 3: Because these are shows that were popular like five years
Speaker 3: before I came around, which doesn't necessarily mean anything. But
Speaker 3: sometimes certain shows like they come and go so quickly
Speaker 3: that you know, I don't get to know about them.
Speaker 2: Right. We were just having a Kathy and I were
Speaker 2: having a conversation yesterday about you know, references that young
Speaker 2: folks just don't necessarily get. I know, how do they
Speaker 2: not like.
Speaker 3: I know, it feels like they're so uncultured. I mean,
Speaker 3: there's an argument to be made that they're not, but.
Speaker 2: Right, and I you know, and I said, at least
Speaker 2: in part. You know, we grew up in multi generational
Speaker 2: houses right here, Kathy did too, you know, Grangray lived
Speaker 2: with them, right, So meaning, you know, my grandmother taught
Speaker 2: me how to do the Charleston. My grandmother was born
Speaker 2: in nineteen oh nine. She lived in this house. Oh wow,
Speaker 2: My mother was born in nineteen thirty, right, and then
Speaker 2: my brother and sister you know, in the early nineteen fifties,
Speaker 2: and so we had you know, there was so much
Speaker 2: and then my mother was an old movie buff and
Speaker 2: all that. So I get references that are probably that
Speaker 2: are older than I am, right, same, yeah, but you know,
Speaker 2: you can talk to a thirty five or forty year
Speaker 2: old and there's not a whole lot goes past. I mean,
Speaker 2: no gun smoke. We were talking about gun smoke and
Speaker 2: a younger person going, what's that right?
Speaker 3: Well, like I never watched gun smoke and never cared
Speaker 3: to watch gun smoke, but I know what it is.
Speaker 2: Right, But you right, but you have a you know
Speaker 2: what it is right? It was right? This was just
Speaker 2: a blank stare right. And and Ernie Kovax was the
Speaker 2: other one that came up, and it was like, who.
Speaker 3: That's another one. I recognized the name, but I couldn't
Speaker 3: tell you what. At least I recognize the name.
Speaker 2: Yes, at least you do. And it's googleable. It's all googleable.
Speaker 2: But it just gets me how many references from Well, there's.
Speaker 3: People of a certain age whose frame of reference doesn't
Speaker 3: extend further back than two thousand and threes.
Speaker 2: I well, or later. Yeah, that's kind of crazy.
Speaker 3: They consider pre YouTube to be ancient history.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean and gun Smoke was still on
Speaker 2: television when I was little. Yeah, syndication. No, it was
Speaker 2: still on television once a week. Oh, it was towards
Speaker 2: the end of it. I mean that started in the
Speaker 2: late fifties, that's right, So I'm talking early seventies. I
Speaker 2: think it went off the air in seventy four maybe right.
Speaker 2: It was syndicated for me, Yeah, and my father was
Speaker 2: My father loved that show, so I would have to
Speaker 2: sit through it and then the Lucy Show came on afterwards,
Speaker 2: and that's what I was waiting for, right. Yeah.
Speaker 3: There's certain classic TV shows that I watched primarily in reruns.
Speaker 3: But then it occurs to me like I was watching
Speaker 3: like the last couple of seasons in real time, like
Speaker 3: the Jeffersons, for instance, I was watching the last couple
Speaker 3: of seasons like first Run.
Speaker 2: All in the Family, the Jefferson's Maud, that was all,
Speaker 2: you know. I saw those as they were new. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but like things like I Dream of Genie that those
Speaker 2: were in syndication. Bewitched. Yes, I'm trying to think was Bewitched.
Speaker 2: I don't remember new episodes of Bewitched, so I think
Speaker 2: that was always syndication for me. But I remember All
Speaker 2: in the Family. I remember when Happy Days came on
Speaker 2: the air, and then Laverne and Shirley, and yeah, so
Speaker 2: never never cared about either that I did.
Speaker 3: I liked the idea of Lavernon Shirley, but I didn't
Speaker 3: care to watch it. I did, okay, and I liked
Speaker 3: that I and a lot of people did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no judgment, just didn't.
Speaker 3: I realized that Dream of Genie and Bewitched we're very
Speaker 3: much an integral part of my young queer awakening.
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, especially Bewitched.
Speaker 3: Like to this day, I would love to be able
Speaker 3: to exit a room with a big flourish of my
Speaker 3: hands and then just disappear.
Speaker 2: I've seen you do that though I would disappear part
Speaker 2: got it? Fair? Fair enough? Funny? Yeah, so we were
Speaker 2: just that was a conversation. I just remember saying to
Speaker 2: my youngest child one day, I mentioned Barbara streisand and
Speaker 2: she looked at me with a blank stare and said, Barbara,
Speaker 2: who leave this house? Leave? Where did I go wrong?
Speaker 2: How is this possible?
Speaker 3: A person that we used to know didn't recognize share?
Speaker 3: And you said, I know you're straight, but you don't
Speaker 3: have to be rude about it.
Speaker 2: Please don't? Yeah, please, I mean, that's that's just not
Speaker 2: okay right at all? His choicing skills? Are you well?
Speaker 2: Suspect anyway?
Speaker 3: But all that to say, rest in peace, Judy Pace.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, but see that's.
Speaker 3: How influential she was because she prompted this entire conversation
Speaker 3: about fierce television back in the day, back.
Speaker 2: In the seventies. Yes, yes, that will be a bit
Speaker 2: of a team. Speaking of the nineteen seventies, now, Chas
Speaker 2: Bona got married, did he? Yes? He did? And what
Speaker 2: was described as a Hollywood glam wedding. I mean he
Speaker 2: married his partner. I want to say they've been together
Speaker 2: for like nine years, but they have known each other
Speaker 2: they met as teenage. They've known each other for forty years. Wow,
Speaker 2: Sharah Blue Okay.
Speaker 3: Sharah Blue mathis right?
Speaker 2: Is his new wife?
Speaker 3: I'm guessing Sherah Blue mathis Bono.
Speaker 2: Now I don't know, maybe, but yeah, they they have
Speaker 2: been in a relationship for nine years. They got married
Speaker 2: at the Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel on Sunday, March eighth, And
Speaker 2: there's a picture of them with cher, which is I
Speaker 2: think it's an older picture, but anyway, it's not. It's
Speaker 2: not from the wedding. It's what I mean. But I'm
Speaker 2: sure I'm was there, Okay, you know, I would be
Speaker 2: surprised if Share was not there.
Speaker 3: Right, Chez is h fully settled into his bear face.
Speaker 2: She was in attendance. According to People magazine, I've all read.
Speaker 3: That Chaz Bono is like primarily heterosexual.
Speaker 2: I think, so, yeah, can you be a bear of
Speaker 2: you're streak? I hmm, would that be the word? I
Speaker 2: don't know. I never so.
Speaker 3: I just you know, well he looks good, is my
Speaker 3: overall point?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yes, but yes, straight.
Speaker 3: My only frame of reference for a guy who I
Speaker 3: think is cute with the beard is bear, right, So
Speaker 3: do with that what you will. What is the straight
Speaker 3: counterpart of Bear?
Speaker 2: They are both fifty seven. I don't know, dad Bod
Speaker 2: maybe maybe anyway? Good for him? Yeah, big congratulations, congratulations.
Speaker 2: Maybe I have a wonderful and long life together. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I thought that was a way to kick off good news. Yes,
Speaker 2: because yeah, and something to celebrate.
Speaker 3: Someone let me know what the straight counterpart of bear is?
Speaker 3: Full circlethepod dot com.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the only thing I can think of is like that,
Speaker 2: because dad Bod is the thing I have heard the
Speaker 2: straight say. I guess I.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it actually couldn't be there because then women would
Speaker 3: choose it.
Speaker 2: Oh right, ah, gotcha, thank gotcha. I there is a
Speaker 2: meme I saw the other day that said, if you
Speaker 2: could choose to be gay, we'd have a hell of
Speaker 2: a lot more lesbians.
Speaker 3: For real though, yep, because what was the other one?
Speaker 2: Straight men?
Speaker 3: Or evidence that sexuality is.
Speaker 2: Not a choice? Not a choice? Yeah, yep, yep. All
Speaker 2: kinds of gems out there right in Memeland. So Zohan
Speaker 2: Mom Donnie uh huh announced first of all, a new
Speaker 2: office Mayor's Office of lgbt q I A plus affairs.
Speaker 2: So wait, Philly had one before New York apparently, wow,
Speaker 2: because it's not surprising. Actually, I believe he had to
Speaker 2: sign an executive order to create the office. Yeah, he's
Speaker 2: establishing the first ever Mayor's office of LGBTQAA plus affairs.
Speaker 2: I mean, we barely have on here. I'm hoping now
Speaker 2: that Tito, our friend Tito, was given the job, maybe
Speaker 2: we'll cease some activity out of that job. At you.
Speaker 2: We will a very long time. And the first director
Speaker 2: is a trans woman named Taylor Brown, and she will
Speaker 2: also be the first trans person to head a city agency.
Speaker 3: This is cool and she looks like she's a get
Speaker 3: shit done kind of person.
Speaker 2: She does, doesn't she? She said, New York has given
Speaker 2: me everything life saving healthcare, education, a home, a career,
Speaker 2: my chosen family, and a life of purpose. She added
Speaker 2: that she is so proud to be appointed as the
Speaker 2: inaugural director of the office. I will work every day
Speaker 2: to ensure that the doors of New York City remain
Speaker 2: open to all and to continue New York City's legacy
Speaker 2: as a beacon of opportunity and hope for those who
Speaker 2: have been ignored, discriminated against, and intentionally excluded work. Yeah.
Speaker 2: She has a long history of LGBTQ focused legal advocacy,
Speaker 2: She previously worked at the National LGBTQ Plus Task Force,
Speaker 2: lambed Illegal and the ACLU.
Speaker 3: Okay, so this comes with credentials.
Speaker 2: In addition, Yeah, she is an attorney. So in addition
Speaker 2: to her accolades as an attorney, the press release described
Speaker 2: her as a proud biracial, black, transgender woman who has
Speaker 2: survived violence related to her status, poverty, housing and stability, employment,
Speaker 2: and healthcare discrimination to become a trailblazing civil rights litigator
Speaker 2: and advocate. Oh wait, she black. There's some of that
Speaker 2: in there. I did not get that, that is what
Speaker 2: she said. I thought she was a LATINAE.
Speaker 3: Okay, work, Well, they that might be part of biracial.
Speaker 2: I don't know how often do you get that, Pappy, Pappy,
Speaker 2: I'm mad at you. How often frequently is there an assumption?
Speaker 2: You're right?
Speaker 3: I just found out that de Barge was black, like
Speaker 3: six months ago.
Speaker 2: So who am I really? Yeah?
Speaker 3: That's interesting, El DeBarge, Chico de Barge. Look at the hair.
Speaker 2: I ain't know.
Speaker 3: Okay, I grew up without Google.
Speaker 2: I was just using my peepers and assumptions, hence Poppy exactly.
Speaker 2: So again, who am I? Who am me? I get it?
Speaker 2: I get it. Let's say, where are we going here?
Speaker 2: San Jose State University sued the Trump administration over anti
Speaker 2: trans threats, and they are refusing to capitulate. The Trump
Speaker 2: regime said San Jose State had to break state law
Speaker 2: to discriminate against trans students, but the university said it
Speaker 2: isn't budgeing good. San Jose State University in California has
Speaker 2: filed a scathing lawsuit against the Trump administration's Department of Education,
Speaker 2: rejecting the regime's attempts to use the crisis it manufactured
Speaker 2: over transgender athletes as a vessel for even more repressive
Speaker 2: and consequential anti LGBTQ crackdowns. I love the use of
Speaker 2: the word regime. Yeah, I hear you. San Jose State
Speaker 2: became a flashpoint of the rights obsession with trans use
Speaker 2: after a student athlete was auted on the national stage.
Speaker 2: They investigated San Jose State for supposed civil rights violations,
Speaker 2: arguing that the athlete's mere presence on the team in
Speaker 2: fringed on the rights of the other women and title nine,
Speaker 2: oh bitch, crazy, backward, and crazy. The resolution proposed by
Speaker 2: the Department's Office of Civil Rights. There's a string of
Speaker 2: words would have the university banned trans women from women's
Speaker 2: sports teams, bathrooms, locker rooms, and dorm rooms in violation
Speaker 2: of state law, strip trans women of their athletic medals
Speaker 2: and honors. Issue apology letters to any presumed cisgender woman.
Speaker 2: I'm serious. Yeah, you're listening to this, presumed yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Issue apology letters to any presumed cisgender woman who competed
Speaker 2: with a trans athlete, and adopt the GOP's definition of
Speaker 2: sex in every aspect of campus life going forward. If
Speaker 2: they don't comply, they could lose federal funding. This strong
Speaker 2: arming bullshit man. Instead, they went on the offensive and
Speaker 2: their sewing and good yep. Federal agencies have cajoled countless
Speaker 2: institutions of higher education into some form of capitulation since
Speaker 2: the beginning of this Jackasses renewed term Penn Sadly, Brown, Northwestern,
Speaker 2: and other elite colleges have made bargains sacrificing anything from
Speaker 2: trans athletes to life saving care for trans youth to
Speaker 2: preserve their federal funding. Yep, anyway, appeasement doesn't work. This
Speaker 2: is according to a graduate student and president of the
Speaker 2: student led campus group trans Talk. The unapologetic lawsuit represents
Speaker 2: much needed support for trans students, especially at a time
Speaker 2: when other universities are bending the knee to Trump's anti transagenda.
Speaker 2: Appeasement doesn't work, they just come back for more correct
Speaker 2: so standing up now is really important. The lawsuit itself
Speaker 2: challenges Trump's anti trans threats on the grounds that it
Speaker 2: constitutes government overreach, that it violates the Administrative Procedure Act,
Speaker 2: and that it is downright unconstitutional. It attempts to retroactively
Speaker 2: punish the university over Trumpean policies it did not break,
Speaker 2: in part because the supposed violations predate the president's current term.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, crazy. This is all we have to worry about, right,
Speaker 2: This is it. This is all the show. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: is what's going on at every Yeah, is so insane.
Speaker 3: When this is all over, I'm picturing like a huge parade,
Speaker 3: kind of like in that one scene of Game of Thrones,
Speaker 3: where all the people that voted for this stuff and
Speaker 3: all the people that supported this stuff are going to
Speaker 3: get led through the streets ins and chains while people
Speaker 3: on the side scream shame, shame, shame, and spit and
Speaker 3: throw rotten shit at them, I mean, and then when
Speaker 3: they get home, they go and shave their head and
Speaker 3: make them stay in the house for six months. Like
Speaker 3: I think that's what should happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear you. Good for them, And you know what,
Speaker 2: And that was the thing that really pissed me off
Speaker 2: is that the University of Pennsylvania has quite an endowment
Speaker 2: these days, and they could have weathered the storm.
Speaker 3: One would think they could have lacking the courage of
Speaker 3: their convictions.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, yep. Anyway, they're not having it, and I
Speaker 2: love it. Yeah. Really. In a statement to the press,
Speaker 2: the California State University System, which oversees this one, made
Speaker 2: clear its commitment, which oversees SJSU, to standing up for
Speaker 2: its students. The federal government may not punish the CSU
Speaker 2: for conduct that complied with binding federal law and the
Speaker 2: government's own guidance at the time. Therefore, the CSU will
Speaker 2: not agree to accept the terms of the proposed resolution agreement.
Speaker 2: The CSU remains unwavering and its commitment to fostering and inclusive,
Speaker 2: respectral and safe environment for all students, faculty, and staff,
Speaker 2: including members of our LGBTQ plus community, and it's never
Speaker 2: been more important for clear and unambiguous action, right, you know,
Speaker 2: to come from states like California, a New Jersey and
Speaker 2: New York. You know that do not bend a knee
Speaker 2: that and will not write you know, because trans people
Speaker 2: are running out of places to go, which we'll get
Speaker 2: into that part. Yeah. Yeah, So the states where we're
Speaker 2: winding up need to step up or continue to step
Speaker 2: up past that. Anyway, A federal judge ruled that etna's
Speaker 2: blanket denial of facial surgery for transwomen FFS is sex discrimination. Okay,
Speaker 2: I love it. The landmark ruling could lead to broader
Speaker 2: FFS coverage in the future. The federal judge ruled that
Speaker 2: etna's categorical denial of facial feminization surgery for transgender women
Speaker 2: constitutes sex discrimination under the Affordable Care Act, and it does.
Speaker 2: The landmark ruling, handed down in the US District Court
Speaker 2: for the District of Connecticut, is believed to be the
Speaker 2: first federal court order requiring a major private insurer to
Speaker 2: make individualized coverage determinations for gender affirming facial surgery rather
Speaker 2: than automatically rejecting every claim as cosmetic good. That's why
Speaker 2: it's in good news. The case was brought by six
Speaker 2: transgender women who sought coverage for FFS to treat severe
Speaker 2: gender dysphoria, but were denied under etna's clinical policy bullet
Speaker 2: and zero six one five, which categorically excludes all gender
Speaker 2: affirming facial procedures from coverage. Though the preliminary injunction applies
Speaker 2: to only two of the six plaintiffs, the class action
Speaker 2: is pending, and the court's legal reasoning will serve as
Speaker 2: a powerful precedent for trans women denied this coverage nationwide.
Speaker 2: To be clear, the issue is not whether etna's policy
Speaker 2: exclusion prohibits this type of gender firming care, but rather
Speaker 2: that etna's policy exclusion prohibits only transgender individuals, the only
Speaker 2: individuals who can experience gender dysphoria exactly, from receiving this
Speaker 2: type of gender firming care. Thus, when ETNA decided that
Speaker 2: these procedures performed as a component of a gender transition
Speaker 2: were not medically necessary and cosmetic, they prohibited only trans
Speaker 2: individuals from seeking this metaal care and thus discriminated on
Speaker 2: the basis of sex. Here here, yep, yeah, good good.
Speaker 2: They're leaning on Bostock versus Clayton County, and you know good,
Speaker 2: we need to see more of this. Indeed, the article
Speaker 2: that I'm reading from, of course, is from Aaron in
Speaker 2: the Morning, so it does go on to talk about
Speaker 2: how critical this type of surgery is because it is. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it is so good news, very good news exactly.
Speaker 3: Governor Veto's bill that would have funded Charlie Kirk's Patilli
Speaker 3: anti LGBTQ plus organization.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, Turning Point USA has raked in millions, but
Speaker 2: a far right congressman wanted to give it even more.
Speaker 3: Arizona Governor Katie Hobbs, Democrat, vetoed a bill to create
Speaker 3: US specialty license plate.
Speaker 2: Honoring slain.
Speaker 3: MAGA influencer Charlie Kirk. Republican legislators are unlikely to override
Speaker 3: her veto as they only have six and four seat
Speaker 3: majorities in the House and Senate, respectively.
Speaker 2: Right, so they can override right. The bill would have
Speaker 2: donated seventeen dollars of the license plate's twenty five dollars
Speaker 2: price to Turning Point USA, Kirk's organization for Young conservatives,
Speaker 2: which pushes anti trans, anti immigrant stances and encourages students
Speaker 2: to harass and report left wing college professors. In her
Speaker 2: March sixth Veto letter, Hobbs wrote that the bill fell
Speaker 2: short of working towards solutions that bring people together. No, shoot,
Speaker 2: by inserting politics into a function of government that should
Speaker 2: remain nonpartisan. Hmm. Democratic legislators in Arizona said the bill
Speaker 2: would needlessly provide government assay stints to help fund a
Speaker 2: wealthy organization. Yeah, they raised eighty five million dollars in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four and their political action committee Turning Point Action,
Speaker 2: which supports far right Republican candidates and registers conservative voters,
Speaker 2: raised over twenty seven million dollars that same year. Ow
Speaker 2: youw indeed anyway, SHP blocked it and good indeed. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they are at the forefront of the movement to promote
Speaker 2: Christian nationalism, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center. Yeah,
Speaker 2: their hate group is a hate group. Yep, and good,
Speaker 2: so thank you. What's next?
Speaker 3: The moms who risked jail and deportation to fight for
Speaker 3: their trans kids is the headline yep from LGBTQ Nation.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: I just felt like when I I look at my
Speaker 3: kid in the eyes, years from now, I can say
Speaker 3: I did everything that I could. So three mothers of
Speaker 3: trans kids were speaking out after they were arrested while
Speaker 3: protesting proposed Trump administration policies that would effectively end gender
Speaker 3: affirming care for miners at hospitals across the US. The
Speaker 3: proposed rules would block all federal funding through Medicare, Medicaid,
Speaker 3: and the Children's Health Insurance Program also known as CHIP
Speaker 3: for any hospital that provides gender affirming care to patients
Speaker 3: under the age of eighteen the sick fuck. The change
Speaker 3: would amount to a nationwide ban on gender affirming care
Speaker 3: for miners at hospitals that rely on federal Medicare and
Speaker 3: Medicaid funding.
Speaker 2: They're disgusting, truly.
Speaker 3: On February seventeenth, more than fifty activists, including parents and
Speaker 3: grandparents of transgender young people, gathered outside the Washington, d C.
Speaker 3: Headquarters of the US Department of Health and Human Services
Speaker 3: for a protest organized by the Gender liber Movement. The
Speaker 3: three moms were among twenty five demonstrators taken into custody
Speaker 3: by Department of Homeland Security agents. They were later handed
Speaker 3: over to the DC Metropolitan Police Department.
Speaker 2: Yeah MMM Gestapo.
Speaker 3: Larissa Godfrey Smith, a DC based therapist who works with
Speaker 3: trans kids and their families as well as trans adults,
Speaker 3: told the Nineteenth that she and her husband had considered
Speaker 3: the risk of her getting arrested and decided that participating
Speaker 3: in the protest was worth it work. Godfree Smith told
Speaker 3: the outlet they've seen firsthand. The told the Trump administration's
Speaker 3: anti transagenda is having on her clients. I'm so angry
Speaker 3: and so frustrated. I'm just so exhausted at the misinformation,
Speaker 3: they said.
Speaker 2: Word up.
Speaker 3: Godfree Smith said she and other protesters were held for
Speaker 3: twelve hours in a jail cell.
Speaker 2: With no running water. That's not acceptable. She says.
Speaker 3: They were fed once, had to be egg for water,
Speaker 3: and were unable to sleep. GLM co founder L. E. L. Cruz,
Speaker 3: who was also arrested, previously told them that many protesters
Speaker 3: were denied phone calls to attorneys and family members. This
Speaker 3: is actually illegal, Cruz said. The demonstrators were charged with
Speaker 3: unlawful entry even though none of them entered the HHS building.
Speaker 2: Twenty one states and Washington DC have sued HHS to
Speaker 2: block the proposed rules around Medicaid and Medicare, and for now,
Speaker 2: the administration's efforts to investigate hospitals use gender affirming care
Speaker 2: programs have been halted, but that has not stopped dozens
Speaker 2: of hospitals across the country from preemptively shutting down their programs.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah, and we do know that that is
Speaker 2: happening late last months. Of course, we know New York
Speaker 2: Attorney General Letitia James' office ordered and Yulangone to reopen
Speaker 2: their program, citing state anti discrimination laws, but they have
Speaker 2: yet to publicly respond to the order of Panion as
Speaker 2: of this writing. Yeah, one of the moms said, I
Speaker 2: have seen firsthands that gender affirming care is life saving
Speaker 2: for teenagers. I really believe it saved my children's lives
Speaker 2: that you did. Agreed, so agreed, And you know it
Speaker 2: is just despicable the lies that they are telling about
Speaker 2: this right want to protect our pedophiles. Yeah, and you know,
Speaker 2: rob the Treasury of the United States blind. I know.
Speaker 2: I'm constantly yelling, like the moms are getting madder and madder.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm constantly yelling on social media they are not
Speaker 3: doing surgeries on children. Stop believing the bullshit you hear exactly,
Speaker 3: you fucking sheep.
Speaker 2: Next, Sophia Bush, who is a queer actress, has earned
Speaker 2: praise for comments she made about white allyship at the
Speaker 2: NAACP Image Awards on February twenty eighth. I remember this, okay,
Speaker 2: art is always political, she said in an interview outside
Speaker 2: the event. As the white friend at the event, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go ahead and say to the women who look
Speaker 2: like me, to the men who look like me, it's
Speaker 2: incredibly important to remember that so much of what we
Speaker 2: love in America comes from black culture. Yep. And white
Speaker 2: people need to show up for black people the way
Speaker 2: they show up to be entertained by black culture. Tell
Speaker 2: it so. Given who's in office, and given what we're
Speaker 2: seeing happen to black and brown communities in our country,
Speaker 2: we better get our shit together. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I saw that video when she said that, and I
Speaker 3: was like, you better say it girl.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, that's unambiguous and thank you pee needed to
Speaker 2: be said, needed to be said, and she said it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's all I thought. It bore repeating, right.
Speaker 3: Katie Coreic confronts Gavin Newsom on his shifting views on
Speaker 3: transgender youth.
Speaker 2: Someone's too fucking delicious. I've been waiting for somebody to
Speaker 2: say what in hell?
Speaker 3: The veteran journalists called the California governor out on the
Speaker 3: perception that he's retreating from his LGBTQ plus rights allyeship.
Speaker 3: It ain't the perception, it's the fucking reality.
Speaker 2: M hm. The exchange aimed a spotlight at a growing
Speaker 2: tension inside democratic politics, which is such bullshit about how
Speaker 2: to confront a wave of conservative attacks targeting trans Americans
Speaker 2: while navigating an increasingly polarized political environment. Right's right and wrong?
Speaker 2: As nobody you jerk offs that part. How about that?
Speaker 2: For decades, Democrats have positioned themselves as the party of inclusion,
Speaker 2: arguing that government should defend the equal rights of all people,
Speaker 2: including LGBTQ plus Americans. Republicans, meanwhile, have increasingly centered transgender
Speaker 2: issues and campaign messages and legislation, and they keep losing
Speaker 2: pay attention. Corek confronted Newsom with criticism from transgender advocates,
Speaker 2: who say his recent rhetoric risks reinforcing those dynamics. Here here, Bam,
Speaker 2: one of my followers who is trans, feels as if
Speaker 2: you're throwing trans people under the bus and that you
Speaker 2: see them as a political liability. Get them. Newsom rejected
Speaker 2: the claim. Of course he did. Of course he did,
Speaker 2: pointing to what he described as a long record supporting
Speaker 2: transgender rights in California. He's saying yet to the person
Speaker 2: who's promoted and signed more trans legislation than any elected
Speaker 2: official in this country, Newsom said. He emphasized, well, then,
Speaker 2: but you're talking out of both sides of your face,
Speaker 2: and the double speak is what I can't stand about.
Speaker 2: Slick Gavin Newsom right. Ugh. He emphasized personal connections as well.
Speaker 2: Oh God, here we go. I have a trans odd
Speaker 2: Sonny said, remarking that he signed what he described as
Speaker 2: some of the most progressive trans legislation just nine months ago.
Speaker 2: I have a black friend. Uh huh. He's frequently pointed
Speaker 2: to California's legislative record to defend those credentials. Since taking
Speaker 2: office in twenty nineteen, he has signed numerous measures expanding
Speaker 2: protections for LGBTQ plus residents, including laws easing the process
Speaker 2: for legal name and gender marker changes, requiring universities to
Speaker 2: provide LGBTQ specific suicide prevention resources, and strengthening privacy protections
Speaker 2: around gender affirming care. I let him in my house too,
Speaker 2: and California has also enacted policies designed to protect trans
Speaker 2: students and families seeking gender affirming treatment. Okay, uh huh, Yes,
Speaker 2: he has and He also reiterated a position that has
Speaker 2: drawn criticism, his belief that questions of competitive fairness arise
Speaker 2: when transgender athletes compete in certain sports. There is no
Speaker 2: fucking proof to this, right. It's based on lies, jackass.
Speaker 2: This is like his little nod to you know, the
Speaker 2: people who are creeped out by the trannees. He's like,
Speaker 2: I get it, yeah, I'll bet you do. I cannot
Speaker 2: back up an argument in favor in a competitive environment
Speaker 2: for sports, he said, referencing track competitions in California that
Speaker 2: he said sparked policy challenges. State officials, he added, have
Speaker 2: struggled to find a policy that satisfies all sides because
Speaker 2: you can't satisfy all sides. You've got the liars, and
Speaker 2: you got the people who just want to play right,
Speaker 2: you know. And trans athletes have been playing by rules
Speaker 2: that let level the playing field for years without incident,
Speaker 2: until the conservatives decided to make us an incident. We're
Speaker 2: still a distraction. It's still all based on lies. But
Speaker 2: he's like, but you know, they have a point there.
Speaker 2: There's not two sides to everything. No, there isn't, and
Speaker 2: I'm so sick of it. We just couldn't figure out
Speaker 2: how to make this fair. Really, how about you tell
Speaker 2: them to grow up and leave the foke alone. How
Speaker 2: about you do that? How about you point to the
Speaker 2: fact that these questions were asked and answered in each sport.
Speaker 2: I mean, if it was a sport where it wasn't
Speaker 2: asked and answered, then let's ask an answer it based
Speaker 2: on science and factsines, not ignorant loudmails. Right Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: The debate he referenced has become increasingly heated in California,
Speaker 2: where a handful of transgender high school athletes have found
Speaker 2: themselves at the center of national political fights. Some teams
Speaker 2: competing under the state's inclusive policies have faced organized campaigns
Speaker 2: to bar them from competition, as well as lawsuits and
Speaker 2: protests backed by conservative groups, of course, seeking to overturn
Speaker 2: those policies. For the students themselves, the attention has been
Speaker 2: overwhelming and motivating. One California trans athlete told the La
Speaker 2: Times that continuing to compete feels like an act of resistance.
Speaker 2: If I stop doing sports, they won. Quirk noted that
Speaker 2: trans athletes are uncommon. These incidents are pretty rare, extremely rare,
Speaker 2: say the least, asking whether the topic is consuming disproportionate
Speaker 2: attention in national politics. It is, yeah. Uh. Newsom agreed
Speaker 2: that the number of athletes involved is small, but argued
Speaker 2: that the political consequences are significant if you make it
Speaker 2: a political n right. Never has more focus been attended
Speaker 2: to so few people, he said, we now criticizing conservative
Speaker 2: politicians for what he describes as scapegoating transgender Americans. That
Speaker 2: is exactly what's happening. So why don't you stop feeding it?
Speaker 2: You jerk off that part. It's disgraceful what these guys
Speaker 2: do and what they've done to the trans community, he added,
Speaker 2: pointing to legislation restricting gender firming care and other rights.
Speaker 3: Uh huh, don't say they like.
Speaker 2: It's not you two exactly, but you know, but you're
Speaker 2: doing that thing that what about ism? Well, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm with you up until this point, but this isn't fair.
Speaker 2: Where are we dominating in sports? Right? You have access
Speaker 2: to data if you want it. You have access to facts, sir,
Speaker 2: if you cared about facts instead of trying to lick
Speaker 2: everyone's dick o. The exchange comes amo a broader debate
Speaker 2: within democratic politics about how the party should talk about
Speaker 2: LGBTQ plus issues in a violatle political environment. Last August,
Speaker 2: a centrist Democrat consulting group advised candidates to avoid certain
Speaker 2: terms commonly used in LGBTQ plus advocacy, including lgbtqia and
Speaker 2: this gender, arguing that the language can soundating to come voters. Well,
Speaker 2: fuck them, fucking Christ, we are not going to have
Speaker 2: a country.
Speaker 3: If you're concerned about the fiefees of every single fucking individual,
Speaker 3: then just throw the whole thing away.
Speaker 2: Pay attention to the full throated politicians who are giving
Speaker 2: us full throaded support. They're primary out the Democrats who
Speaker 2: are middle of the road like this, they are they're
Speaker 2: getting primaried away. And mom, Donnie went from the bottom
Speaker 2: of the heap to the from the mayor of the
Speaker 2: biggest and he had gorgeous commercials talking about our history
Speaker 2: in New York City and how it had to be
Speaker 2: preserved and protected. It's not a winning strategy, people, You know,
Speaker 2: I and I'm actually a Facebook friend had made a
Speaker 2: comment about what did she say? I something about if
Speaker 2: the election were tomorrow, would be ours to lose, honest,
Speaker 2: But my faith in the unwavering dedication that Democrats have
Speaker 2: to snatching defeat from the jaws of victory remains strong.
Speaker 2: I am so sick of this unhelpful armchair quarterback narrative.
Speaker 2: What exactly is your solution then, right, you know, what
Speaker 2: is your Please to tell me, Please to tell me,
Speaker 2: because this has you know, it's a little bit more
Speaker 2: complicated than that, and I'm just so sick of that narrative.
Speaker 2: And we are seeing unambiguous progressives winning yep. So you know,
Speaker 2: and that that talk right now is just unhelpful. Thank you, period,
Speaker 2: It's unhelpful, and you know, it sickens me more. During
Speaker 2: the interview, the governor argued that acknowledging difficult policy debates
Speaker 2: does not undermine broader commitment to equality. That's the one
Speaker 2: area I disagree, he said, of competitive sports. But that's
Speaker 2: not throwing the community under the bus. It feels like
Speaker 2: it because it's all based on lies. There are ways
Speaker 2: for us to be And here's the thing. If you
Speaker 2: would shut the fuck up about the puberty blockers, right, uh,
Speaker 2: we never have a presumed advantage because people would go
Speaker 2: through the right puberty right to mention their gender. Like
Speaker 2: you know, I'm sorry, but it's like the argument is
Speaker 2: they want us dead, Gavin, that's the real fucking argument.
Speaker 2: You're picking up a piece of the ship that they're
Speaker 2: throwing and saying, well, this one looks kind of pretty though.
Speaker 3: It's got a nice little green streak, and it look
Speaker 3: at the way it catch on the light.
Speaker 2: My god. Yeah, like, I'm sorry, but you know it's
Speaker 2: And he gets on the podcast with the dude bros.
Speaker 2: And he can't help himself, right, he cannot help himself.
Speaker 3: He wants to be a cool kid. Yeah, that's the
Speaker 3: problem with these motherfuckers they have, right, they were never
Speaker 3: the cool kid growing up, so now they have a
Speaker 3: chance to like have access to people and they try
Speaker 3: to be one of them. Not realize how empty the
Speaker 3: cool kids were, right, slash are.
Speaker 2: The conversation also briefly touched on Newsom's public image. Quorik
Speaker 2: noted that critics sometimes describe the well dressed, quick talking
Speaker 2: politician as slick. I believe I did at least once yep,
Speaker 2: a label often used by opponents who argue that his
Speaker 2: political positions evolve with shifting public opinion yep. He brushed
Speaker 2: off the characterization, of course, you don't have to like me,
Speaker 2: or maybe you like a slick person. I don't know whatever.
Speaker 2: It's okay. There is nothing wrong with evolving a position
Speaker 2: because the facts warrant it, right, But yeah, voting in
Speaker 2: favor of us and then throwing us under a bus
Speaker 2: on this issue is not looking at Show me the data,
Speaker 2: Show me where this unfairness is taking place. Show me
Speaker 2: the sport where we're dominating. Please, right, that would justify
Speaker 2: you being such an asshole. Show us you know, well,
Speaker 2: I just got a feeling and that's all he's got,
Speaker 2: And that's all all of this is. As we lose
Speaker 2: our rights left, right and sideways, and you know, my
Speaker 2: people can't figure out where the fuck to live in
Speaker 2: this country, you know. But okay, Gavin, try talking out
Speaker 2: of both sides of your mouth. You won't be president
Speaker 2: Gavin that way.
Speaker 3: Sorry, Gavin Newsom gives me remember that, like it was
Speaker 3: a trope in television and movies for a while, Like
Speaker 3: you have. Like you're at the movie studio and all
Speaker 3: the people are sitting in the room trying to decide
Speaker 3: on a look or something and one person goes, I'm
Speaker 3: thinking like a green wall, and the assistant goes, oh,
Speaker 3: I love green. Green is my favorite color. Should go
Speaker 3: with green? The director goes, I hate green. I hate
Speaker 3: it too, Get it out of here. That's Gavin newsom.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm mm hmmm. I'm picturing the song from Best
Speaker 2: Little Worehouse in Texas. Do a little side step. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what I'm picturing. Because he wants the boys to
Speaker 2: like him or something or something I don't know. Thank you, Katie, right,
Speaker 2: thank you. I appreciate it. I've actually got a little
Speaker 2: more good news. I like that. Another segment I'd like
Speaker 2: to introduce, and you know, some some juicy stuff. So
Speaker 2: why don't we take a break again. We will be
Speaker 2: right back. Okay, and we're back.
Speaker 3: We're back.
Speaker 2: So James tall Rico is the Democratic Senate Kennedy in
Speaker 2: Texas who did edge out Oh Jasmine Crockett, right, so
Speaker 2: not Jasmine Crockett. And he stands by his defense of
Speaker 2: trans youth and says, let's focus on the real problem.
Speaker 2: The only thing the media wants to ask me about
Speaker 2: are trans athletes, he said during a March night interview
Speaker 2: on ms NOW formerly known as MSNBC. He remarked that
Speaker 2: although he's had a lot of interviews with national media
Speaker 2: since winning the primary, he hasn't been asked about issues
Speaker 2: like the cost of housing and the cost of prescription drugs.
Speaker 2: The only thing the media wants to ask me about
Speaker 2: our trans athletes, he said, And this is part of
Speaker 2: the problem for sure. Uh huh. What I would say
Speaker 2: is that the only minority destroying this country is the billionaires.
Speaker 2: Good for you, Okay, thank you. Yeah, we are worried
Speaker 2: about the wrong one percent. Thank you. We better figure
Speaker 2: it out while we still have something left, thank you.
Speaker 2: Tall Rico added, the common right wing scapegoats, such as
Speaker 2: trans people and undocumented people each make up roughly one
Speaker 2: percent of the United States population. We are all focused
Speaker 2: on the wrong one percent. Oh there you go, yep.
Speaker 2: Trans people aren't taking away our healthcare, Undocumented people aren't
Speaker 2: defunding our schools. It's the billionaires and their puppet politicians.
Speaker 2: God bless this man, and so we need not only
Speaker 2: the media but all of us to focus on the
Speaker 2: real problem at hand. Good God. I hope Texas is
Speaker 2: smart this time around, but I have my doubts.
Speaker 3: Well, I actually think I might forgive him for beating mcgirl.
Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time listening to Mallya Ivans
Speaker 2: and her long suffering as a Texan. This isn't the
Speaker 2: first time l Rico has been outspoken in support of
Speaker 2: our community. In twenty twenty three, a TikTok video of
Speaker 2: him speaking out against a Republican bill attempting to require
Speaker 2: Texas public schools to display the Ten Commandments went viral.
Speaker 2: Oh that was him, Yes, quote, Why is having a
Speaker 2: rainbow in a classroom in doctrination and not having the
Speaker 2: Ten Commandments in a classroom? Well, he said every time
Speaker 2: on this committee that we try to teach students values
Speaker 2: like empathy and kindness. We're told we can't because that's
Speaker 2: the parent's role. But now you're putting religious commandments, literal
Speaker 2: commandments in our classroom, and you're saying that's the state's role.
Speaker 2: Why is that not the parent's role? Good question. Yes,
Speaker 2: I do. I do like him. I do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm starting to like him too. In a few weeks,
Speaker 3: I'll completely possibly have forgiven him.
Speaker 2: Following Trump's reelection, multiple Democratic members of Congress, like New
Speaker 2: York Rep. Tom Swosey and Massachusetts Rep. Seth Moulton, claimed
Speaker 2: that in order to rebuild political power, their party must
Speaker 2: become more conservative on trans issues. As Swosey put it,
Speaker 2: stop pandering to the far left fuck you by supporting
Speaker 2: basic trans rights, particularly trans inclusive school sports. More recently,
Speaker 2: a wave of new Democratic candidates have refused to throw
Speaker 2: trans people under the bus thank you people, in hopes
Speaker 2: of scoring points with voters. Last year, New York City
Speaker 2: mayor Johan mom Donnie pledged to spend sixty five million
Speaker 2: dollars on trans healthcare as part of his mayoral campaign
Speaker 2: any One, Yep Yeah. During an appearance on Slate's Sex
Speaker 2: and Money podcast earlier this week, Maine Democratic Senate candidate
Speaker 2: Graham Platner argued that Republican attacks on trans rights are
Speaker 2: an invented culture war scare meant to sow division in
Speaker 2: his home state. Exactly. I think there are like two
Speaker 2: trans kids that compete in high school sports in Maine,
Speaker 2: in all of Maine. In all of Maine, there are
Speaker 2: forty thousand maners who are going to lose healthcare because
Speaker 2: of the lack of the Affordable Care Act extension. One
Speaker 2: of those things seems very important and real to me.
Speaker 2: One of them seems like an invented culture war scare
Speaker 2: to keep people divided. A fucking men, Well, thank you,
Speaker 2: tell Rico. This is I just want clarity unambiguous. You know,
Speaker 2: trans people were not hurting you before. Nope, And there
Speaker 2: is no reason to throw us under this bus that
Speaker 2: the fucking conservatives created in the first goddamn place. Right,
Speaker 2: this is the part I can't stand. And every time
Speaker 2: I do get a microphone, I mention it as you should. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The people that bother me the most, the most are
Speaker 2: the ones who say they're my ally, except they kind
Speaker 2: of got a point. W No they don't, No, they don't.
Speaker 2: And they'll take that as a win, every little bit
Speaker 2: of my human rights that you're willing to erode, because
Speaker 2: well that kind of makes sense. Uh huh. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: a win in their column, and it gets you what
Speaker 2: nothing exactly. Once again, the European Union provides a road
Speaker 2: map of hope. Right. The EU Court ruled trans citizens
Speaker 2: must receive IDs reflecting their lived gender. Must must The
Speaker 2: European Court of Justice ruled that a U member states
Speaker 2: must allow transgender citizens to update official identification docum to
Speaker 2: reflect their lived gender. Yeah, that's that's that's basically it
Speaker 2: truly that like, that's that's the crux of it. Good,
Speaker 2: this shouldn't be a question. That's how it is. In
Speaker 2: New Jersey. Right, cal You know, California has made it easier.
Speaker 2: Pennsylvania's working on it. This shouldn't be a problem. It
Speaker 2: really shouldn't. But you know, they they they want us
Speaker 2: degrade it onto death, so of course they keep making
Speaker 2: issues the European Union, however, Right says, yeah, must reflecting
Speaker 2: our lived gender. Good on them. Yeah, So I had
Speaker 2: a few articles. I just wasn't sure where to put
Speaker 2: them right because they I can't call them good news.
Speaker 2: I can't really call them nonsense. So what I do
Speaker 2: call them is water as well. So I think that
Speaker 2: might become a new segment depending on what's out there.
Speaker 2: But you'll see where I'm going with the first one.
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Speaker 2: desire online is both gender affirming and simply hot. So
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of these creators are hiring other
Speaker 2: trans people to make their content. They've got online communities
Speaker 2: where they are raising money for causes. It's not all
Speaker 2: just porn, right, you know, porn with a purpose. But
Speaker 2: we've been seeing the numbers. I thought this had a
Speaker 2: chart to it. It doesn't, but you know you can
Speaker 2: imagine the chart the red or of the state, the
Speaker 2: harsher the laws, the more they love their transport.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I found out with the number one spot was what
Speaker 2: and tie? Really huh that's the coming cartoons, right, Yeah, yes,
Speaker 2: that's how they thought. Yeah. So I just I loved
Speaker 2: that the article was in Playboy because it does, you know,
Speaker 2: speak unambiguously about you know, the bullshit that we're facing, right,
Speaker 2: and it also talks, you know to the content creators themselves,
Speaker 2: so you know, it is a profile as they are
Speaker 2: wont to do. And again it just made you know,
Speaker 2: big mainstream article transport is booming water. That's right. The
Speaker 2: next one. Again, I stuck in this category because predictable,
Speaker 2: so fucking predictable trans healthcare band forces cis special needs
Speaker 2: child to flee the state to obtain critical harmon care.
Speaker 2: Uh huh. Yeah. It turns out gender firming care bands
Speaker 2: hurt SIS kids too.
Speaker 3: They're literally fucking it up for everyone.
Speaker 2: H This is about a Texas family and their struggle
Speaker 2: to obtain medical care for their special needs child. It
Speaker 2: is exemplifying the way anti translaws can hurt everybody, not
Speaker 2: just those who identify as something other than the sex
Speaker 2: assigned at birth. This person, who has lived in Apasso
Speaker 2: their whole lives, being forced to move to New Mexico
Speaker 2: because her seven year old daughter, Freya can more easily
Speaker 2: receive the puberty blockers she needs to treat the syndrome
Speaker 2: she has, which is a genetic disorder that is caused
Speaker 2: her to enter precocious puberty.
Speaker 3: Which is what puberty blockers were is originally designed for.
Speaker 2: Right, But you know in Texas you can't get them,
Speaker 2: can't get them, and because if they only if they
Speaker 2: I believe where they do it, and they only affect
Speaker 2: trans kids, but they make them available, that is discriminatory. Right,
Speaker 2: So then when they said, well nobody can get them.
Speaker 3: At least they're not being discriminatory.
Speaker 2: Now you're sending little girls into puberty at eight years old.
Speaker 2: Are you proud of yourselves?
Speaker 3: You went from being discriminatory to being tyrannical.
Speaker 2: That's not better. Her daughter's pediatric endocrinologist, the only person
Speaker 2: providing youth hormone care and olive El Paso stopped prescribing
Speaker 2: puberty blockers after being sued by anti trans Attorney General
Speaker 2: Ken Paxton that motherfucker for allegedly violating the state's gender
Speaker 2: affirming care ban Uh huh. The doctor handed an injunction
Speaker 2: banning him from prescribing the blockers to transuth or from
Speaker 2: providing false diagnoses such as precocious puberty, so that his
Speaker 2: parents could continue their care. The situation resulted in him
Speaker 2: stopping prescribing puberty blockers altogether, which is what they want,
Speaker 2: you know, and they and they expect that. Ken Paxton,
Speaker 2: this is I want there to be a hell just so,
Speaker 2: Greg Abbott and Ken Paxton, I don't know, are butt
Speaker 2: fucked by a building for all of eternity dry? Like
Speaker 2: I just I you know, how do how do you
Speaker 2: pay for pure evil, pure fucking evil?
Speaker 3: Not a building, and not even one of those skinny
Speaker 3: cylindrical buildings either, No, a.
Speaker 2: Big squatty one and there'd still be an echo. Oh shit.
Speaker 2: Case against the doctor was ultimately dismissed, but the parent
Speaker 2: still does not even know if he has resumed prescribing
Speaker 2: pubity blockers or not. She had already left his care
Speaker 2: due to the long wait times at his office, spurred
Speaker 2: by the lack of pediatric endocrinologists in the area. Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: why would you work there. You don't have any work anymore.
Speaker 2: And this is an attorney general, not a doctor, telling
Speaker 2: doctors they can't doctor, right, which is what's been going on.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we're beating a dead horse here,
Speaker 2: but anyway, that's why this is water is wet. I
Speaker 2: think the passage, as well as the enforcement of the
Speaker 2: gender affirm and Caravan, is likely making it harder to
Speaker 2: attract pediatric endocrinologists to the region. Of course, his attorney
Speaker 2: told the Tribune, We've made a lot of headway and
Speaker 2: improvement attracting more specialists and more doctors, but there's a
Speaker 2: long way to go. Who's going to practice in Texas?
Speaker 2: You know, the parents said, I love Texas, but right
Speaker 2: now it doesn't feel like they love us back. When
Speaker 2: you have a child with special needs, gray areas are
Speaker 2: not your friend because your entire life is a gray area.
Speaker 2: Having something I can rely on is extremely paramount to
Speaker 2: her care. And if her doctors are too scared to
Speaker 2: do their job, what the heck am I supposed to do?
Speaker 2: The lack of pediatric endochronologists in the area has also
Speaker 2: resulted in Freya's struggling to obtain another critical medication that
Speaker 2: helps control her overactive appetite caused by her disorder. Without
Speaker 2: the medication in sivery, the consequences can be incredibly deadly,
Speaker 2: causing issues with Freya's kidneys. We can't get the care
Speaker 2: she needs because all the end of chronologists are scared
Speaker 2: to do their jobs. This is the you know, the
Speaker 2: environment that these jackals have created. Yeah, to what end?
Speaker 2: You know, you gotta see it and look at it
Speaker 2: and go why why? Good question? But yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: more and more SIS people are going to pay the
Speaker 2: price to there, because pediatric endochronologists don't just treat trans kids, right,
Speaker 2: But you know it's like why would you set up
Speaker 2: in Texas and why would you stay in Texas if
Speaker 2: they're working against you? Right like that? So you're going
Speaker 2: to see more and more of that. We're already seeing
Speaker 2: it with these stupid bathroom bands. And you know, people
Speaker 2: get it wrong all the time because they think they
Speaker 2: know what they're looking at and they don't, and they're
Speaker 2: harassing SIS people. Yeah, all the time it's happening.
Speaker 3: All you had to do was just mind you're fucking this.
Speaker 2: You were bolding the ignorant here And to what end?
Speaker 2: We and one more, one more A story about CIS
Speaker 2: men getting breast reduction went viral, with everyone making the
Speaker 2: same point. An article about SIS men getting breast reduction surgery.
Speaker 2: Anti transpundents have continually raised their voices against gender affirming treatments,
Speaker 2: despite the fact that studies have shown that their scant
Speaker 2: evidence reporting that trans people regret their gender identity care
Speaker 2: or gender affirming care, including top surgery. In fact, top
Speaker 2: surgery has been found to dramatically improve the lives of
Speaker 2: trans people according to his study, and even heterosexual men
Speaker 2: are undergoing the procedure to improve their mental well being.
Speaker 2: An article published by The New York Post had shared
Speaker 2: the experience of CIS men had breast reduction surgery essentially
Speaker 2: in a bid to feel their best. It changed my life.
Speaker 2: Brian Lewis Gonzalez, who underwent the surgery, told the publication,
Speaker 2: I had to get used to walking with my chest
Speaker 2: out and having confidence before I felt like I was
Speaker 2: carrying around a big bag of rocks. That's what my
Speaker 2: guynomastia was like. It is an increase in the amount
Speaker 2: of breast gland tissues in boys or men. It impacts
Speaker 2: half of all men at some point in their lives. Right, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Since twenty twenty, there has been a steep increase in
Speaker 2: men going ahead with this what is it gender affirming surgery? Yep. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And by the way, the vast, vast majority of any
Speaker 2: surgeries done on miners this exactly this yeah yeah on
Speaker 2: CIS boys. But on social media everyone is having the
Speaker 2: same reaction, pointing out that the surgery is literally the
Speaker 2: same as gender affirming top surgery, the exact procedure, so
Speaker 2: many right wingers oppose. One person reposted the article captioning
Speaker 2: it simply or firming top surgery. Yeah. The New York
Speaker 2: Post had posted, you know, meet them in getting breast reductions.
Speaker 2: It is now the most popular plastic surgery among guys
Speaker 2: in the United States. Another reader referenced the barriers trans
Speaker 2: people face and accessing the procedure, writing, I think we
Speaker 2: need to have long interviews where these guys have to
Speaker 2: explain that they are actually guys and have two psychologists
Speaker 2: agree to it, right, because we wouldn't want them doing
Speaker 2: anything irreversible they might regret, right, exactly. Did we check
Speaker 2: if they're autistic, because this is the kind of shit
Speaker 2: trans people get put through.
Speaker 3: All check if they're autistic?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a thing. Yeah. Anyway. Someone else parodied a
Speaker 2: common anti trans dog whistle, writing, so sad they were
Speaker 2: groomed into mutilating their bodies. I love my people, but
Speaker 2: when transmen do it, suddenly it's a big problem, another
Speaker 2: reader wrote, while someone else commented, Oh, so when CIS
Speaker 2: men are getting their breasts removed, it's just popular surgery
Speaker 2: among guys. But when transmen do it, it's suddenly a
Speaker 2: big problem. I love all the people that are you know,
Speaker 2: spoke up about the article. It's fun. Yeah. The comments
Speaker 2: rightly call out the hypocrisy of those opposed to gender
Speaker 2: firm and care, which has shown time and time again
Speaker 2: to have incredibly low regret rates. Uh huh, because why
Speaker 2: would it anyway? One more example of water is well
Speaker 2: you get it. Yes, moving on, It is time for
Speaker 2: the segment we like to call people taking pleasure. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I love this first one. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Athlete mocked for saying she's traumatized from rooming with someone
Speaker 3: she later found out was trans.
Speaker 2: Exactly after the fact, after the fact, she's traumatized in
Speaker 2: the past. Retroactive, Yes, a retroactive trauma.
Speaker 3: Former San Jose State University remember right, volleyball player Brooks.
Speaker 3: Slusser is being mocked what a Slusser on social media
Speaker 3: for a video in which she discusses the apparent trauma
Speaker 3: she endured from being friends and roommates with a teammate
Speaker 3: who she didn't know was transgender. Slusser has been embroiled
Speaker 3: in legal drama for years over the alleged transgender teammate,
Speaker 3: whom she called to be kicked off the team. Slusser
Speaker 3: has also made several appearances on Fox News Shaker, during
Speaker 3: which she misgendered her teammate.
Speaker 2: She wants to be Riley Games I guess retroactor.
Speaker 3: Losing is the new winning, apparently. In a recent Fox
Speaker 3: Digital interview, Slusser spoke about sharing a bed with the
Speaker 3: other student at some point and how uncomfortable it was
Speaker 3: to later discover she had done so.
Speaker 2: Quote with a man native exactly.
Speaker 3: This is just absolutely absurd. It's hard to process. I
Speaker 3: don't even know if I can say I fully processed
Speaker 3: it to this day. Good God, she said, despite the
Speaker 3: fact that nothing had actually occurred during their interaction and gone.
Speaker 3: She claims she was quote lied to and would have
Speaker 3: changed everything about her actions in the apartment if she
Speaker 3: had known that she was living with a man.
Speaker 2: Has thought, I bet they do this. Bitch is mad
Speaker 2: because she became friends with a trans woman. Nothing bad happened,
Speaker 2: they were good friends. She just found out she was
Speaker 2: trans and is now going on this disgusting grifter culture
Speaker 2: war bullshit, absolutely soulless, and I hope your God punishes
Speaker 2: you that part.
Speaker 3: All of that.
Speaker 2: Literally, nothing bad happened to her. The trans woman was
Speaker 2: her friend and is now being vilified for doing nothing. Yep,
Speaker 2: literally nothing happened to her. She had a positive experience,
Speaker 2: didn't even know one of her three flatmates was trans.
Speaker 2: Blames the counselor who suggested living there as one of
Speaker 2: the options for a good reason. The griffs are just
Speaker 2: getting worse and worse. Uh huh, it keeps going. So
Speaker 2: what I'm hearing here is they can't, in fact, always
Speaker 2: tell when someone is trans, and somehow that is also
Speaker 2: our fault. Uh huh Yeah. Really harrowing stuff. Wow, hard
Speaker 2: to believe she survived that Brooke found out one of
Speaker 2: her housemates was trans, despite not knowing and their friendship
Speaker 2: being no different than any other woman chatting, watching films,
Speaker 2: et cetera. Somehow this is damaging to her, so she's
Speaker 2: on the transphobe grift.
Speaker 3: You know what it's giving. It's giving soccer players who
Speaker 3: like they'll have literally no one around them, and they'll
Speaker 3: hit the ground and grab their ankle and scream and cry,
Speaker 3: my neck, my back, my neck in my back.
Speaker 2: That's what this sounds like. Uh huh. Anyone saying she
Speaker 2: didn't consent to this needs to understand that you people
Speaker 2: are not entitled to any information regarding anyone else's transness.
Speaker 2: It's simply none of your business. It never was, it
Speaker 2: never would have been right. You shared an apartment with
Speaker 2: someone who was only ever kind to you and had
Speaker 2: a good experience, but you changed your mind only because
Speaker 2: you learned she was trans. This is bigotry and I
Speaker 2: have zero sympathy. I have less than that. It goes
Speaker 2: on and on, and I love it. She is being
Speaker 2: openly mocked on Twitter x ex Twitter that, and I
Speaker 2: think it's fun. Fuck that bitch, as I fucked that bitch.
Speaker 2: What's next?
Speaker 3: Epstein's accountant just connected the scandal to Trump and the
Speaker 3: DOJ is screwed.
Speaker 2: Uh huh. T He like the headline right.
Speaker 3: This is from Queerity after sloppily removing a series of
Speaker 3: files related to a Trump accuser who was also an
Speaker 3: Epstein victim. The DOJ is trying its best to pretend
Speaker 3: that nothing's going on, but Epstein's accountant has another story
Speaker 3: to tell, and it's pretty damning for everyone involved.
Speaker 2: Which is a lot of people.
Speaker 3: As it turns out, when they say follow the money,
Speaker 3: they're not usually talking about the personal accountants of the
Speaker 3: rich and famous. But in the case of Epstein and
Speaker 3: his notorious relationships to all kinds of powerful people, one
Speaker 3: figure could be the key to the whole operation. Richard Khan,
Speaker 3: who was recently deposed as part of the broader Epstein investigation,
Speaker 3: and what he had to say was quite interesting to
Speaker 3: those of us who have been trying to pin down
Speaker 3: a timeline in regard to Trump's involvement in the case.
Speaker 3: According to Khan, at least one Trump accuser has received
Speaker 3: a payout from the part of Epstein's estate reserved for survivors.
Speaker 2: How about that? Virginia Rep.
Speaker 3: Suhas Subrahmanyam, who attended Khan's deposition, tweeted out the bombshell
Speaker 3: earlier this week, along with a list of names of
Speaker 3: high powered individuals who allegedly funded certain of Epstein's crimes.
Speaker 3: While we don't know yet which Trump accuser received the payout,
Speaker 3: the timeline could potentially match up with what we know
Speaker 3: about the victim who's been making the headlines recently. The
Speaker 3: same woman who came forward about being introduced to Trump
Speaker 3: by Epstein between nineteen eighty three and eighty five, when
Speaker 3: she was between thirteen and fifteen, received a large settlement
Speaker 3: from the Epstein estates sometime in twenty twenty one. And
Speaker 3: of course, nothing screams cover up like the DOJ mysteriously
Speaker 3: omitting the files related to this accuser and then re
Speaker 3: uploading them and then removing them again. And somehow there's
Speaker 3: an even weirder, gayer twist to all this. According to
Speaker 3: Epstein Transparency Act Oversight Leader Representative Robert Garcia, Kahn also
Speaker 3: helped facilitate a sham marriage between two women in the
Speaker 3: Epstein regime. Jeffrey Epstein's massive sex trafficking ring would not
Speaker 3: have been possible without the consistent payments and services of
Speaker 3: his long time accountant, Richard Kahan, Garcia wrote in a
Speaker 3: statement after the deposition yesterday. While Khan claims he was
Speaker 3: not aware of Epstein's crimes, he clearly knows the jig
Speaker 3: is up for him and he's not holding back. But
Speaker 3: even if he continues to connect the dots between Trump,
Speaker 3: Epstein and the sex trafficking ring the two allegedly benefited from,
Speaker 3: that still doesn't mean we're closer to seeing justice done.
Speaker 2: As usual.
Speaker 3: Trump and his DOJ goons are committed to denying every
Speaker 3: bombshell allegation stemming from the reopening of the case. But
Speaker 3: between Cohn's loose lips and the cadaver dogs heading out
Speaker 3: to Epstein's Zorro ranch and beyond, we might be inching
Speaker 3: toward a place where denial is no longer possible in
Speaker 3: the face of cold, hard evidence.
Speaker 2: Roosting. Okay, cluck, motherfucker, mm hmmm, oh oh, oh, this
Speaker 2: was fun. A man who said Trump should kill all
Speaker 2: trans people has been sentenced for anti trans crime. A
Speaker 2: Seattle man has been sentenced to seven years in prison
Speaker 2: for a violent hate crime attack against a transgender woman
Speaker 2: in the city's university district. He was convicted on Friday,
Speaker 2: the thirteenth of March of his second degree assault and
Speaker 2: committing a hate crime for attacking a transwoman. She encountered
Speaker 2: him in several other men while walking to a Seattle
Speaker 2: Mariner's opening day game. This dude shouted insults and called
Speaker 2: her a drag queen before punching her in the mouth
Speaker 2: when she attempted to record the harassment. Witnesses said multiple
Speaker 2: attackers then punched and kicked her while shouting anti transslurs goddamn. Yeah.
Speaker 2: She suffered broken teeth, facial injuries, and a brain bleed
Speaker 2: before escaping to a restaurant for help. Yeah. Juris determined, though,
Speaker 2: that the assault met Washington State's legal definition of a
Speaker 2: hate crime, concluding she was targeted because of her gender identity.
Speaker 2: I mean she was, Absolutely she was. But too often
Speaker 2: we see these you know them kind of get away
Speaker 2: or something. Dutas, on his way to prison, couldn't have
Speaker 2: happened to a nicer guy word yeah and apparently say.
Speaker 2: During sentencing in King County Superior Court, prosecutors also referenced
Speaker 2: a recorded jail call in which Carlo his name is said,
Speaker 2: if I didn't hate trans people before, I do now absolutely.
Speaker 2: I think that Donald Trump should kill them all, get
Speaker 2: them out of here. They're weird. Uh huh. This was
Speaker 2: not the only case tied to this jackass. In twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four, he punched a transgender fair ambassador working for
Speaker 2: Sound Transit after being asked to verify his fare at
Speaker 2: a station. A jury convicted him a fourth degree assault
Speaker 2: in that case, but did not reach a verdict on
Speaker 2: a hate crime charge. So this is his come up
Speaker 2: because he learned nothing. Then he appeared largely remorseless during
Speaker 2: sentencing proceedings as the judge imposed an eighty four month
Speaker 2: prison term for the attack. Good, good, yep, So he
Speaker 2: learned nothing from the last time. So here we go again.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think any man with a head that
Speaker 3: small in a neck that big is capable of learning.
Speaker 2: You're probably right. He looks like a butt pluck.
Speaker 3: One of them novelty ones that you look at and go,
Speaker 3: what am I supposed to do with that?
Speaker 2: Use it as a doorstop? Right that? So? Nearly thirty
Speaker 2: judges on the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals have formally
Speaker 2: reprimanded a Trump appointed colleague who wrote that a transgender
Speaker 2: discrimination case was quote about swinging dick. Yes, I shit
Speaker 2: you not. Judge Lawrence Van Dyke wrote the lead descent
Speaker 2: in Olympus Spa v. Armstrong last week, in which the
Speaker 2: Christian owners of a Korean nude SPA in Washington State
Speaker 2: sought to overturn a twenty twenty five panel ruling that
Speaker 2: ordered the SPA to admit trans women. The full Ninth
Speaker 2: Circuit declined to rehear the case last Thursday, leaving in
Speaker 2: place the panel's ruling that Washington's non discrimination laws prohibit
Speaker 2: the SPA from admitting only cis gender women. In his descent,
Speaker 2: which largely argued that the state had violated the Olympus
Speaker 2: owner's religious liberties. God, I'm so tired of this, Van
Speaker 2: Dyke opined that this is a case about swinging dix.
Speaker 2: Van Dyke, apported by President Donald Trump in twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: rallied against quote woke regulators and complicit judges and claimed
Speaker 2: that this women were visually assaulted by the presence of
Speaker 2: trans women without bottom surgery in the SPA. The judge
Speaker 2: who repeatedly misgendered the trans woman who filed the initial
Speaker 2: complaint against Olympus SPAS policy in twenty twenty called her
Speaker 2: a man who identifies as female and accusing her of
Speaker 2: waging a campaign to compel the admission of men at Olympus.
Speaker 2: I coarsely but respectfully dissent from our Court's willingness to
Speaker 2: leave this travesty in place, he concluded in response, this
Speaker 2: is the good part. Twenty seven of the Ninth Circuit's
Speaker 2: fifty one judges signed their names to another opinion rebuking
Speaker 2: Vandyke's vulgar barroom talk, written by Judge m Margare McEwen,
Speaker 2: who also penned last year's majority opinion. That language makes
Speaker 2: us sound like juveniles, not judges, and it undermines public
Speaker 2: trust in the courts, she wrote, adding that Van Dyke's
Speaker 2: opinion ignores ordinary principles of dignity and civility and demeans
Speaker 2: this court. In a separate, longer rebuttal joined by six
Speaker 2: other judges, McEwen also wrote that the dissent quote serves
Speaker 2: at most to distract from what this case is about.
Speaker 2: Regarding the dissenting opinion of Judge van Dyke, we are
Speaker 2: better than this, another statement from Judges John Owens and
Speaker 2: Daniel forrest Read. A spokesperson for the Ninth Circuit, said
Speaker 2: that the court does not comment on opinions. In response
Speaker 2: to Reuter's request last week, Yeah the owners, of course,
Speaker 2: are represented by the Pacific Justice Institute Group. As far
Speaker 2: as the Southern Powery Law Center, et cetera, et cetera,
Speaker 2: et cetera. Not the first time this jackass has courted
Speaker 2: the spotlight from the bench. He's an asshole. He's an asshole,
Speaker 2: and his fellow judges called him out publicly and in writing.
Speaker 2: I doubt that he cares right.
Speaker 3: But God help me, I'm sitting here and all I
Speaker 3: can think about is I think he's just mad that
Speaker 3: his dick wouldn't swing if he was in a hula
Speaker 3: contest at noon in July.
Speaker 2: There you go, and that could have everything to do
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 3: At best, he can get a brisk jiggle.
Speaker 2: They are so much more fascinating. A brisk jiggle, A
Speaker 2: brisk jiggle, there we go. I like to see decency
Speaker 2: and decorum upheld in the court system. Me too, And
Speaker 2: I like to see these jackasses taken to ask publicly. Indeed,
Speaker 2: you're still having fun over a brisk jiggle A wow,
Speaker 2: because now that's a mental limit. But you have to
Speaker 2: really watch it closely because nothing's moving.
Speaker 3: No, it is look closer.
Speaker 2: Like jello wiggle.
Speaker 3: It's more like a mushroom popping up out of the
Speaker 3: grass at dawn.
Speaker 2: The nervous mushroom sir, your mushroom.
Speaker 5: Looks upset, titles shaking.
Speaker 2: Oh my, oh shit, oh this has been your moment
Speaker 2: of people taking pleasure main o mine.
Speaker 3: Thank you for that, even though I'm the one that did.
Speaker 2: It, you are actually yeah, yeah, oh shit, mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: That brought me joy the story itself and right, yes,
Speaker 2: of course the rest of it was fun too. I
Speaker 2: have a fifteen minute fave this week? Do you? I do?
Speaker 2: I want to have a I want a fifteen minute
Speaker 2: fae because it's been in my head and I've been
Speaker 2: singing it like for two weeks. Fine, I'll put mine away,
Speaker 2: or maybe three weeks. It's been a while because there's
Speaker 2: a I want to say, is it an Infinity commercial
Speaker 2: that has like a clip of this song in it?
Speaker 2: And then it put the whole song in my head
Speaker 2: and I had you singing it too.
Speaker 3: So there, all right, hold on, let's do it, right.
Speaker 3: Do you have a fifteen minute phase?
Speaker 2: Yes, As a matter of fact, I do. What is it?
Speaker 2: This song came out when I was I had just
Speaker 2: turned thirteen. From nineteen seventy nine Rupert Holmes Escape the
Speaker 2: Pina Colada song.
Speaker 3: So we're going to go out to the break with escape.
Speaker 2: And we'll be right there. I was tired of my lady.
Speaker 4: We've been together too long, like a worn out recording,
Speaker 4: bove a favorite song.
Speaker 2: So was she lay there asleeping.
Speaker 4: I read the paper in bed, and in the personal
Speaker 4: columns it was this.
Speaker 2: Letter I read.
Speaker 3: If you like king to conant us getting.
Speaker 2: Caught in the rain, if you're not into your.
Speaker 3: God, if you have half.
Speaker 1: A brain, bid, if you like making love and the
Speaker 1: night in the tunes on the cake, I'm a love
Speaker 1: that you've looked.
Speaker 2: Falk right to.
Speaker 6: Me and esay and we are back.
Speaker 2: We're back. I remember that song being all over the radio. Ah,
Speaker 2: I was thirteen. It's fun. It tells a whole story.
Speaker 2: It's a fun song. It's kind of cute. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: always been a fun song, part of the zeitgeist for
Speaker 2: a long time. Anyway, it's been in my head, so
Speaker 2: now it can be in theirs. It is sadly time
Speaker 2: for the cavalcade of nonsense. Fine, I'm gonna go as
Speaker 2: fast as I possibly can, But you know, I think
Speaker 2: we need to talk about some of this. The Fourth
Speaker 2: Circuit rules that states can compel trans adults to appreciate
Speaker 2: their sex same quotes via care bands. I'm sorry what
Speaker 2: you heard me. They ruled that states encouraging citizens to
Speaker 2: appreciate their sex through care bands is a constitutional goal,
Speaker 2: affirming West Virginia's Medicaid ban for trans adults. On Tuesday,
Speaker 2: an all Republican and mostly Trump appointed panel of the
Speaker 2: Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that states can exclude
Speaker 2: gender affirming surgery from Medicaid coverage, allowing West Virginia's exclusion
Speaker 2: to return to full effect. In doing so, the panel
Speaker 2: extended the Supreme Court's decision in Scurmetti, which held that
Speaker 2: transgender youth care bans were constitutional to transgender adults, the
Speaker 2: first federal appeers court in the country to do so,
Speaker 2: and directly states that adult care bans are legal. Okay, First,
Speaker 2: there is a group of jackals, obviously, yeah, and they
Speaker 2: you know. Perhaps even more troubling, the judges declared that
Speaker 2: transgender adult care was dangerous. No, it's not, and that
Speaker 2: it is rational for a state to restrict access to
Speaker 2: such care in order to encourage citizens to appreciate their sex.
Speaker 2: I want to take away these jagoffs viagra. Well that
Speaker 2: I'll bet I could find a lot of women who
Speaker 2: believe that shit's dangerous for you know, the ruling effectively
Speaker 2: reversed a previous Enbank decision by the same circuit and
Speaker 2: established precedent for a wave of new laws targeting transgender adults.
Speaker 2: Just weeks after, Heritage Foundation president Kevin Roberts declared on
Speaker 2: a podcast that the solution to transgender adult care was
Speaker 2: to outlaw it. Wow. Yeah, it is not irrational. Yes,
Speaker 2: it is for a ledge to forego Medicaid coverage of
Speaker 2: arguably ineffective and dangerous procedures, which is a fucking out
Speaker 2: and outlying And how would they know they're very effective
Speaker 2: and they're not dangerous and allocate its limited resources to
Speaker 2: covering other treatments like your viagra? I imagine. What's more,
Speaker 2: states may legitimately recognize and celebrate the inherent differences between
Speaker 2: men and women. Wow, it is not irrational for a
Speaker 2: legislature to encourage citizens to appreciate their sex and not
Speaker 2: become disdainful of their sex by refusing to fund experimental procedures. Lies, lies,
Speaker 2: and more lies. And these are judges lying. So you know,
Speaker 2: our court system right where you have judges appointed by
Speaker 2: Trump means absolutely fucking nothing. Yep, absolutely fucking nothing. The
Speaker 2: precedent in this decision can be weaponized far beyond medicaid.
Speaker 2: A lot of implications here, its lies and more lies.
Speaker 3: Iowa bans cities and towns from protecting transgender citizens' civil rights.
Speaker 3: A year after Iowa stripped gender identity from its civil
Speaker 3: rights code, Kim Reynolds signed a law barring cities and
Speaker 3: counties from restoring protections for trans residents. Iowa Governor Kim Reynold's,
Speaker 3: a Republican, signed a new law prohibiting local governments from
Speaker 3: protecting transgender Iowan civil rights. The law comes a year
Speaker 3: after Iowa became the first state in the country to
Speaker 3: roll back its civil rights code by removing gender identity
Speaker 3: from protected classes. Several progressive jurisdictions like Des Moines and
Speaker 3: Iowa City, where we have listeners, still detected trans Iowans.
Speaker 2: And local ordinances rights they did.
Speaker 3: But that concerned the Republican controlled legislature enough to pass
Speaker 3: legislation pre empting local rules. We just believed that locals
Speaker 3: should follow the same laws, especially when it comes to
Speaker 3: civil rights, Reynolds said in a press conference. According to
Speaker 3: Iowa Public Radio News.
Speaker 2: We want to fuck those traneees over in the cities too.
Speaker 3: Right, otherwise, we have a mismatch of rights out there,
Speaker 3: and we felt that it was the right thing to do.
Speaker 3: But the move upset local elected officials, who said Iowa
Speaker 3: entered treacherous legal territory by prohibiting officials from protecting a class.
Speaker 2: Of people yep.
Speaker 3: Laura Burgess, an Iowa City council member, said that her
Speaker 3: city passed a resolution last year in response to the
Speaker 3: state's civil rights rollback.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: Local officials were resolved to.
Speaker 3: Reinforce the fact that we had that authority and to
Speaker 3: make sure that our residents knew that discrimination on the
Speaker 3: basis of gender identity specifically was still prohibited in Iowa City.
Speaker 3: She called the new law signed by Reynolds extreme overreach.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what it is, period. And you know,
Speaker 2: they want to make sure that we don't have rights
Speaker 2: anywhere in Iowa. Isn't that sweet and special? No, quickly
Speaker 2: as possible, Trump just rolled out a cruel anti trans
Speaker 2: prison policy that doctors are calling dangerous. A new Bureau
Speaker 2: of Prisons move requiring that transgender inmates be tapered off
Speaker 2: their hormones could bring serious health consequences. Physicians and advocates
Speaker 2: are warning the Trump administration has ordered federal prisons to
Speaker 2: begin tapering hormone therapy for incarcerated transgender people. Physicians said
Speaker 2: that it could inflict immediate psychological distress and long term
Speaker 2: medical harm on a vulnerable population. You bet your asset could.
Speaker 2: But they want us dead. That's the They will just
Speaker 2: as soon see us dead. The guidance, which was issued
Speaker 2: on February nineteenth by the Federal Bureau of Prisons, outlines
Speaker 2: how the prison system will treat incarcerated people diagnosed with
Speaker 2: gender dysphoria. It bars the agency from initiating hormone therapy
Speaker 2: for inmates who were not already receiving it, and instructs
Speaker 2: clinicians to develop tapering plans that could ultimately discontinue treatment
Speaker 2: for prisoners who currently rely on hormones as part of
Speaker 2: their medical care. Yeah, it reads less like clinical guidance
Speaker 2: than a political decision overriding established medical practice.
Speaker 3: I believe this violates the Eighth Amendment. Isn't that cruel
Speaker 3: and unusual punishment?
Speaker 2: I think so. Yeah, they're saying a form of evidence
Speaker 2: based care will no longer be provided to people under
Speaker 2: the purview of the Bureau of Prisons. Yeah so, said
Speaker 2: doctor cross Street, a Boston primary care physician and one
Speaker 2: of the country's leading researchers on transgender health. Quote. That
Speaker 2: means the policy runs counter to best practices and arguably
Speaker 2: probably the law in terms of providing care to inmates,
Speaker 2: because it's setting up a different standard for them versus
Speaker 2: the standard out of the community. Yeah, Cruelty is the
Speaker 2: point here. Yep. Cruelty is absolutely the point. And you know,
Speaker 2: watch for the uptick of suicides in prison. Yep. If
Speaker 2: you know this holds, it collides with one of medicine's
Speaker 2: oldest principles. One of the main tenants in medical ethics
Speaker 2: is non malfeasance, do no harm yep. And this is
Speaker 2: going to have direct harm on people. But they don't
Speaker 2: see us as people. And this is what happens when
Speaker 2: we don't see people as people. Should we talk about
Speaker 2: medical experiments in prison and when those things happened, Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is that in a different form.
Speaker 3: I mean that three fifths rule was just to justify
Speaker 3: the cruel treatment of enslaved people. Don't see people as
Speaker 3: human and you can justify the things you do to.
Speaker 2: Them, right, right, Yeah, this is so much like that,
Speaker 2: and cruelty is exactly and only the point. Yeah. So
Speaker 2: a new NHS England review this is important, excludes ninety
Speaker 2: seven percent of all trans studies in order to say
Speaker 2: that our healthcare doesn't work. How about it. It's led
Speaker 2: to a ban for HRT through the NHS England system
Speaker 2: under the age of eighteen. Yeah, they published ten evidence
Speaker 2: reviews purporting to show that the quality of evidence for
Speaker 2: hormone therapy for transgender use is low. The reviews were
Speaker 2: released alongside an announcement that the healthcare system would be
Speaker 2: banning new hormone prescriptions for transgender use under the age
Speaker 2: of eighteen, but upon closer examination, the evidence reviews appear
Speaker 2: to be an extreme example of politically manufactured science, similar
Speaker 2: to other reviews that have come out of the UK
Speaker 2: in recent months to provide political justification for banning gender
Speaker 2: affirming care. Across the ten reviews, five and four, forty
Speaker 2: seven full text screenings resulted in just seventeen studies, included
Speaker 2: a staggering ninety seven percent exclusion rate. The reviews used
Speaker 2: exclusion criteria designed to guarantee that result discarded some of
Speaker 2: the most significant transgender care studies published in the last
Speaker 2: decade for nonsensical reasons, and then reached what appears to
Speaker 2: be a predetermined conclusion that there is insufficient evidence that
Speaker 2: hormone therapy for trans youth works because we got rid
Speaker 2: of all the evidence. And of course they're also hiding
Speaker 2: the suicides. You know, they're hiding the death rate. They're
Speaker 2: just lying. They're lying, they're killing us, and they're lying
Speaker 2: about it. Is that's what is going on, you know. Again,
Speaker 2: it's it's just chilling over there as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: so that happened. There is a very detailed article that
Speaker 2: Aaron Reid put out that really gets into the nuts
Speaker 2: and bolts of this whole thing. But you know, liar's
Speaker 2: gonna lie and affect the lives of real people. Yep.
Speaker 2: And lives will be lost by this, and it's irresponsible
Speaker 2: and it's awful, evil, evil evil. So this is a
Speaker 2: bit of an update because you had asked me during
Speaker 2: our last show, what about people who never changed their
Speaker 2: name right or gender markin? Now? Yeah, okay, so I
Speaker 2: still might be right. This article, okay, is about a
Speaker 2: woman who never changed her gender marker and Kansas invalidated
Speaker 2: her license. Anyway, let's read this. A trans Kansas resident
Speaker 2: recently changed her name. See she's still changed her name though.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so that's what put on.
Speaker 2: There was a name change. That was what right, if
Speaker 2: you've not done anything, he didn't get you didn't get
Speaker 2: a letter. But she hadn't even changed a gender marker.
Speaker 2: She just changed her name.
Speaker 3: But that pinged because she was.
Speaker 2: Fearing what they might do if she did, and they
Speaker 2: still flagged her id. God damn it. Andrea Ellis of Wellington,
Speaker 2: Kansas was one of many trans Kansas who opened her
Speaker 2: mail on February twenty fifth to learn that in less
Speaker 2: than twenty four hours, her driver's license would be invalid.
Speaker 2: The letter issued by the Kansas Department of Revenue informed
Speaker 2: her that because how substitute for Senate Bill two for
Speaker 2: four requires Kansas issued driver's licenses and identification cards to
Speaker 2: reflect the credential holders sex at birth, her current license
Speaker 2: would become invalid immediately, even though it does right. She
Speaker 2: had been following the news closely, she never expected the
Speaker 2: state to send her a letter invalidating her license. That's
Speaker 2: because she had never changed her sex marker on her
Speaker 2: license in the first place. Yep. She last updated her
Speaker 2: driver's license on January seventh, of twenty twenty six, after
Speaker 2: completing a legal name change in December of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Fearing her license would be revoked if she updated her
Speaker 2: sex marker, she deliberately held off on doing so, and
Speaker 2: they got her any way. Man, this is really sloppy.
Speaker 2: You know, we're hearing all kinds of stories. The DMV
Speaker 2: doesn't know what to do with half of this. Some
Speaker 2: of them issued temporary licenses to replace the ones that
Speaker 2: were revoked without making any change to anything, because they
Speaker 2: don't even know what they're doing, right, None of this
Speaker 2: makes sense. It was done in the dark of night,
Speaker 2: as quickly as possible, with as little input as possible, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: because that's how they do this shit, because if they
Speaker 2: did everything in the light of day and above board.
Speaker 3: It wouldn't go through, right, or at least not without pushback.
Speaker 2: Well, of course, of course. Yeah. The Kansas Attorney General
Speaker 2: did give until March twenty six, so I guess they
Speaker 2: have nine more days before they enforced the penalties, which
Speaker 2: can include jail time and huge fines the fuck out
Speaker 2: of here. Yeah, yeah, trans people are fleeing Kansas as
Speaker 2: quickly as they possibly can. Yeah, yeah, we're talking about
Speaker 2: I keep reading thousands of letters, but this effects about
Speaker 2: seventeen hundred transfolk in Kansas. I think that's all there were,
Speaker 2: you know, but that's how many were affected anyway, something
Speaker 2: like seventeen to eighteen hundred. So yeah, but a lot
Speaker 2: of them are, you know. And I've seen some of
Speaker 2: the posts of people saying I'm getting the hell out
Speaker 2: fast as I can, I'm moving and some have already
Speaker 2: packed up. Again.
Speaker 3: We have uh, we have listeners in Kansas as well.
Speaker 3: Full Circle topod dot com US know how you're doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And of course, Indiana's anti trans attorney general
Speaker 2: is also preparing to revoke trans people's documents. How about that,
Speaker 2: Indiana A. G. Todd Rokita has been compiling a list
Speaker 2: of his states trans people, Following in Kansas's footsteps. He's
Speaker 2: quietly laying the groundwork to declare that their IDs falsified records.
Speaker 2: How disgusting, How disgusting these people are, how awful? How
Speaker 2: can they live with themselves? Well, Charles, come on, this
Speaker 2: is the same fucking rednecks. I hate people. It's it's
Speaker 2: it's the same prejudice, just differently pointed.
Speaker 3: I mean that's still asked the question, how can he
Speaker 3: live with themselves?
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, up until this point,
Speaker 2: no state had done this. Kansas did it. This cannot
Speaker 2: be legal, and yet now Indiana's trying to follows suit
Speaker 2: as fast as they can. How disgusting. So Marcia's is
Speaker 2: a newer queer friendly at least bar on South Street
Speaker 2: named after Marsha P. Johnson. Yes, so yeah, So.
Speaker 3: Marsha's owner says her bar was inspected on a busy
Speaker 3: weekend night as a result of unfounded reports of underage drinking.
Speaker 2: Well, we've had this happen to us exactly.
Speaker 3: Philadelphia police said the incident was part of a standard
Speaker 3: compliance check. Now, which, okay, fine, it happens.
Speaker 2: Yes, somebody who wants to fuck with you calls makes
Speaker 2: a complaint and they have to follow up. Right now.
Speaker 3: When it happened to us, it was one officer, maybe two,
Speaker 3: usually roughly a dozen Philadelphia and State police officers.
Speaker 2: State police, yeah right, not right.
Speaker 3: Flooded into the women's sports bar to investigate the lesbian
Speaker 3: owned business, and it raised questions about whether the city
Speaker 3: went overboard on a routine bar inspection.
Speaker 2: Sounds like it tell you, I'm sure they probably did. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Video posted on Instagram by South Street Nightlife chronicler at
Speaker 3: South Street, Philly showed twelve masked and unmasked police officers
Speaker 3: why masked, leaving Marsh's at four thirty South Street on
Speaker 3: February twentieth. The footage was in line with how bar
Speaker 3: owner Shavon Anderson described the event in a video statement
Speaker 3: on the bar's Instagram account. Authorities advised us that the
Speaker 3: inspection followed a second anonymous complaint received within thirty days
Speaker 3: of a prior call. The complaint alleged that Marsh's was
Speaker 3: serving underage patrons, selling alcohol after permitted hours, and operating
Speaker 3: without proper licenses.
Speaker 2: And I doubt they would be stupid. They would be stupid.
Speaker 3: Oh hell yeah, because so many eyes are on them.
Speaker 2: Right, I know that the state police have to follow
Speaker 2: up on this stuff. We had. It happened to us
Speaker 2: when we owned a bar where you know, they send
Speaker 2: in spies to see what happens at last call, but
Speaker 2: we told them to do that. I well, right, because
Speaker 2: this was happening to us repeatedly, And I went through
Speaker 2: channels through a state representative who was the head of
Speaker 2: the committee that oversaw the alcohol lows, I guess, or
Speaker 2: the DLCB, the Liquor Control Board in Philadelphia or in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: And I invited them. I said, you know, do what
Speaker 2: you have to do, but your resources are being misused
Speaker 2: every time. These things are unfounded. These are people who
Speaker 2: do not like the fact that we are queer and
Speaker 2: you know, running a very actually good business in their neighborhood.
Speaker 2: And what's kind of ironic is now it's a trouble bar.
Speaker 2: Now they have what they thought they had before when
Speaker 2: we were extremely respectful the way we ran that bar.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was happening. They would come and say, look,
Speaker 2: we know, but right, and it did finally stop, you know,
Speaker 2: at least as far as we knew. But I said,
Speaker 2: you can have someone in here every night when we close, right,
Speaker 2: please do please do right, and we don't serve anyone
Speaker 2: without id right, and we test the idea right So
Speaker 2: and I you know, and we were nowhere near South Street.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine they're doing any of that, truly, I can't. Right,
Speaker 2: it would be really, really stupid. And all the bars
Speaker 2: downtown are really careful about you like that, Oh hell you.
Speaker 3: My My issue is not about the fact that the
Speaker 3: cops were there, because, like you just said, they have to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you don't need forty seven of them right
Speaker 2: and masked. You don't need that, Like, what the fuck
Speaker 2: is that about? Yeah?
Speaker 3: The reason why this set put my hackles up was
Speaker 3: it was giving.
Speaker 2: Stonewall. You know what I'm saying. It's happened in other places. Yes,
Speaker 2: I do. I hear you. I hear you. And I
Speaker 2: love the fact that we have someone from the District
Speaker 2: Attorney's office who is now the LGBT liaison for the
Speaker 2: Mayor's office. And you know, I expect, yep, this won't just.
Speaker 3: Die, right, So I would suggest that go Tito, right,
Speaker 3: go Tito, that the owners of Marshes, assuming that you
Speaker 3: know they haven't already, you know, make friends with in
Speaker 3: the Mayor's office and let them know, like you run
Speaker 3: an above board business and this is what's happening.
Speaker 2: But you know, I don't know that that's going to help.
Speaker 2: I'm saying that the larger publicity of it all and
Speaker 2: where the Philadelphia Police are concerned in this whole thing,
Speaker 2: because the state police are the enforcement arm of the
Speaker 2: LCB right, it's state police, that's true. It has nothing
Speaker 2: to do with the city cops nothing. So, I mean
Speaker 2: that was always my understanding. I don't even know why
Speaker 2: there would have been city cops involved, actually this is
Speaker 2: my question. But yeah, I mean, so that's what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: So that parts of city question, the rest of it, Yeah,
Speaker 2: they should be, they should be make a noise, especially
Speaker 2: if they keep repeatedly, you know, passing the because we
Speaker 2: also had surprise inspections that came out of that, right
Speaker 2: and you know where you've got to produce certain paperwork
Speaker 2: on demand and da da da da, and that was
Speaker 2: always up to date. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a mess.
Speaker 2: I'm going to move on. RFK Junior's HHS proposes scrapping
Speaker 2: protections for LGBTQ plus kids in foster care. The policy
Speaker 2: change was announced in a Notice of proposed rule making.
Speaker 2: This is the United States Department of Health and Human Services.
Speaker 2: They proposed formally removing federal regulations intended to ensure supportive
Speaker 2: foster placements for LGBTQ children. Following a court decision that
Speaker 2: struck down the rule last year. Foster holmes could soon
Speaker 2: reject LGBTQ plus children after Donald Trump's administration proposed a
Speaker 2: new rule that would strip protections in places. Twenty twenty four,
Speaker 2: the Administration of Children and Families, in a Notice of
Speaker 2: proposed rule making, announced it will remove requirements ensuring placement
Speaker 2: in foster care for children who self identify with an
Speaker 2: alternative sexual orientation or self identity as something other than
Speaker 2: their sex. The agency operates under the direction of HHS
Speaker 2: Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Junior. Public comments on the proposed
Speaker 2: rule change will continue to be collected until April sixth
Speaker 2: I would strongly advise people to weigh in on that.
Speaker 2: It's gross. Always will do that's gross. Yeah, well, I
Speaker 2: mean they want to take us right back to the
Speaker 2: days of conversion therapy and good old exorcisms and you know,
Speaker 2: all the stuff that we know doesn't work, and they
Speaker 2: want us staying in the closet and killing ourselves, and
Speaker 2: you know all that they were happy, and so let's
Speaker 2: torture the kids in the foster k let's really go
Speaker 2: after the most vulnerable of the most vulnerable. This one,
Speaker 2: this one feels like overreached that I would imagine we'll
Speaker 2: have swift backlash. Oh yeah, this jackass Kentucky state lawmakers
Speaker 2: are considering an amendment that would strip state funding for
Speaker 2: Dolly Parton's Imagination Library. We write it, Dawn. Yeah, they
Speaker 2: don't want to pay for the program that provides free
Speaker 2: books to children from birth to age five. I guess
Speaker 2: they aren't staying quite dumb enough in conduct. I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're considering a change to how the Imagination Library is funded.
Speaker 2: The program provides children free age appropriate books each month
Speaker 2: from birth to age five. You know, to fire reading.
Speaker 2: Fuck them children reading books? Yep. I mean it's in
Speaker 2: line with everything else they do.
Speaker 3: I think about the joy of reading that was instilled
Speaker 3: in me in that age range.
Speaker 2: Mm hm, and they want to deprive children of that.
Speaker 2: So in January, Democratic Senator Cassie Chambers Armstrong filed a
Speaker 2: joint resolution in the Senate with the goal of finding
Speaker 2: ways to increase participation in the program. Get more kids
Speaker 2: reading right, get the books in their hands right. However,
Speaker 2: an amendment filed in early March by Republican Senator Michael
Speaker 2: Nemis would prohibit the state general Fund from being used
Speaker 2: to fund the Imagination Library. Why this is not even
Speaker 2: a partisan issue, it's children reading books. Kentucky Democratic Party
Speaker 2: Chair Coleman Eldridge. So this is approaching comic book levels
Speaker 2: of cartoon villainry for real, though, Why on earth would
Speaker 2: Senate Republicans defund an imagination library program started by Dolly
Speaker 2: Parton that helps inspire a love of reading for Kentucky kids.
Speaker 3: There's literally nothing bad there.
Speaker 2: There are twenty one states that have opted into this program,
Speaker 2: including our neighbors in Tennessee, West Virginia, and Missouri. This
Speaker 2: is not partisan. This is about our Kentucky children getting
Speaker 2: a book every month to help them dream big, expand
Speaker 2: their minds, and ensure they show up to elementary school
Speaker 2: able to read.
Speaker 3: Y'all going to fuck around and piss off Dolly Parton,
Speaker 3: and I'm just gonna sit back and watch what happens
Speaker 3: to you.
Speaker 2: The governor, who is Bashir, who is a Democrat, was
Speaker 2: asked about the resolution. It gets our youngest children books regularly.
Speaker 2: It encourages parents or caregivers to read to our children,
Speaker 2: and we know the more you read to your young children,
Speaker 2: the better they start in their educational journey. Yep. He
Speaker 2: also said that if Senator Nemus amendment stands, it will
Speaker 2: cause the program to collapse. It's a pretty simple question.
Speaker 2: Do you want all kids in the Commonwealth regularly sent
Speaker 2: to them to read or not? I think it's a
Speaker 2: pretty simple question. Yeah. Now comments receive so far, I'm
Speaker 2: thinking that's a bridge too far. Yeah, don't you.
Speaker 3: You're working with children reading and Dolly Parton and Dolly Parton,
Speaker 3: it's like.
Speaker 2: That can't go over well in Kentucky, right, I'm saying,
Speaker 2: I mean, what the what the.
Speaker 3: What Dolly Parton, who is arguably, i mean, like, the
Speaker 3: most beloved celebrity in the world.
Speaker 2: Right, what what is next? Killing puppies on the state
Speaker 2: capitol steps? Like? What? What? What else can you do?
Speaker 2: Make the children watch your drown kittens?
Speaker 3: What seriously make the children drown the kittens?
Speaker 2: Yeah, make them do it? There you go, but name
Speaker 2: them first, name them? What the hell? What's wrong with
Speaker 2: these people? If that is not syphilis going on, check,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what is.
Speaker 3: If that is not syphilis?
Speaker 2: Oh fuck it? Duck. So some jack ass said the
Speaker 2: target boycott was over.
Speaker 3: I know, and we were like, who are we don't know?
Speaker 2: How right? That's what I heard, swiftly like who is he?
Speaker 2: And who the hell? And the women who started the
Speaker 2: damn boycott in the first place? Went what right? So?
Speaker 3: Jamal Bryan, who is the pastor of a prominent metro
Speaker 3: Atlanta mega church, said last week that the campaign to
Speaker 3: boycott Target was officially concluding.
Speaker 2: And who are you to say so, sir?
Speaker 3: Allegedly he was in the room with the women when
Speaker 3: the original plan for the boycott happened. So I guess
Speaker 3: he decided they're done now, right? He decided, Oh he's
Speaker 3: the leader?
Speaker 2: Uh huh? So.
Speaker 3: Minneapolis organizers that include doctor Nakima, Levy Armstrong, Monique Colors,
Speaker 3: Dody and Jaylani Hussein said the Atlanta based pastor, who
Speaker 3: previously led what he called a forty day fast, does
Speaker 3: not speak for the movement. They also say that while
Speaker 3: other efforts have garnered national attention, the Target boycott originated
Speaker 3: in Minnesota. We stood for us and with the community,
Speaker 3: Levy Armstrong said at a news conference Wednesday. We speak
Speaker 3: for us and we will never sell out our community
Speaker 3: for crumbs or a seat at Target's corrupt table. So
Speaker 3: we are asking people to continue to double down and
Speaker 3: hold Target accountable. The boycott continues, and that's basically it.
Speaker 3: There Like the resounding response is like I don't.
Speaker 2: Give a fuck what he says. Nobody.
Speaker 3: No, we are not going back to Target because they
Speaker 3: haven't changed right their behavior.
Speaker 2: They have not.
Speaker 3: But see, here's the part that pissed me off royally.
Speaker 3: Because he came out publicly in his little suit in
Speaker 3: front of a camera. People were like, oh, a black
Speaker 3: man said something in earnest about what black people are doing.
Speaker 3: He must speak for all of them, because like I
Speaker 3: saw a fucking Newsweek, I saw Bloomberg, I saw Forbes
Speaker 3: all repeating this shit.
Speaker 2: Oh the boycott is over.
Speaker 3: They did the fuck it is so fuck what you
Speaker 3: heard is basically the main salient point of this whole thing.
Speaker 2: In an interview with the Associated Press on March, third,
Speaker 2: Target CEO Michael Fidelki acknowledged the boycotts have had an
Speaker 2: impact on targets declining sales. You betcher ass they have.
Speaker 2: It was one of the things that impacted our sales.
Speaker 2: And so we know we've got trust to win back
Speaker 2: with guests, and we'll be focusing on doing it. Uh huh.
Speaker 2: There's no easy button to win back trust, but we'll
Speaker 2: do the work. The work means bringing back to EI right.
Speaker 2: Acknowledging the importance of diversity, right, not selling out your employees,
Speaker 2: I mean. And they were always known as a progressive
Speaker 2: company and a good place to work, right, a place
Speaker 2: that celebrated, you know, diverse peoples and gave them a
Speaker 2: respectful workplace. And then they said, nope, never mind, never mind,
Speaker 2: just kidding, yep, fuck that. We don't have to do that.
Speaker 2: Trump said, we don't have to be decent anymore. Right,
Speaker 2: that's what started us. So we ain't gonna well and
Speaker 2: ain't nothing changed.
Speaker 3: So who is exactly who dis just because one negro
Speaker 3: says something, the rest of us supposed to follow suit.
Speaker 3: It don't work that way. Sorry, you ain't.
Speaker 2: Jesse, It never has.
Speaker 3: Jesse's dead.
Speaker 2: And even then, you know.
Speaker 3: Come on, there's a short list of black men who
Speaker 3: can just stand up and say something and we'll go okay.
Speaker 3: And only one of them on the list, in my head,
Speaker 3: is still alive.
Speaker 2: So who you right? Right? That was as quick as
Speaker 2: we could make the cavalcade, and we try. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of tough stuff happening. Truly Republicans, you know, continue
Speaker 2: to lose their ever loving minds. They are doubling and
Speaker 2: tripling down against the trans community, and it is obscene.
Speaker 2: It's obscene. Yeah, I'm going to suggest we take another break,
Speaker 2: can cleanse our palates. When we come back with pop culture,
Speaker 2: we'll be right. Yeah, we're back. We're back. Cack cat
Speaker 2: cat out. The oscars happened, they did.
Speaker 3: We didn't get a chance to watch the full ceremony, No,
Speaker 3: we didn't. We watched what we wanted to watch.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and clips, which was great. It made me cry, right,
Speaker 2: I didn't have to see all that. Michael B. Jordan's
Speaker 2: Michael B.
Speaker 3: Jordan one for Best Lead Actor for Sinners, of course,
Speaker 3: as he should, because he played not one, not two.
Speaker 2: But three motherfucking characters.
Speaker 3: I thought it was four, No three, it's Smoke, Stack
Speaker 3: back and then Stack as a vampire.
Speaker 2: Oh there was no Smoke as a vampire now, so
Speaker 2: it was three distinct characters that he played. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean he did brilliantly, Yeah, brilliantly. So he won.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Sinners was nominated for an unprecedented number of awards.
Speaker 3: They won some, they won some one Bad Laughter, another
Speaker 3: one Best Picture, which.
Speaker 2: I guess I get it best Picture, but it's almost
Speaker 2: like they wrote it for that. Yeah you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. And yeah, Best Pictures a stretch in my mind.
Speaker 2: I saw it. It was entertaining. Yeah, best Picture, That's
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: Sinners over.
Speaker 3: That, But I agree again Michael B. Jordan one Best
Speaker 3: Actor for Sinners over Timothy Shallow may ha ha ha
Speaker 3: and his speech right, Leo DiCaprio for One Bad Laughter
Speaker 3: another which you know but anyway, and Paul Thomas Anderson
Speaker 3: won Best Director for.
Speaker 2: One Bad Laughter? Did Sewn Pen win?
Speaker 3: Sean Penn won for Best Supporting.
Speaker 2: You know what, I'll give it tone. Kathy and I
Speaker 2: were talking about that too, as much.
Speaker 3: As over del Roylando though.
Speaker 2: Well, I know, but that was some like really that
Speaker 2: was some performance. What did del Rey play? Again?
Speaker 3: Del Roylando played the blues musician who played at the
Speaker 3: juke Joint and he gave that really amazing monologue talking
Speaker 3: about like basically like how they tortured and lynched folks,
Speaker 3: and his performance was just inspired. And it was his
Speaker 3: first nomination after fifty years of acting.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Now okay, so yeah, here's my thoughts. I'm not going
Speaker 3: to be grudge Sean Penn his win because he did
Speaker 3: put in work, like he really did create your feelings
Speaker 3: about the film one way or the other. Fight you
Speaker 3: can't deny that he put in work.
Speaker 2: And that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And it's one thing when you have one stellar performance
Speaker 3: up against another stellar performance. And while I am greatly
Speaker 3: disappointed that Del Rolando didn't win, as a lot of people,
Speaker 3: my main criticism is of people's reactions to his reaction
Speaker 3: when he didn't win, because he was He's just sat there,
Speaker 3: stone faced, didn't clap, and people were trying to like
Speaker 3: same thing they did with Angela Bassett when they played
Speaker 3: in her face. It's like trying to say you should
Speaker 3: be grateful to even have the opportunity, you should be
Speaker 3: grateful to be there. You're it's classless and bad manners
Speaker 3: and bad sportsmanship to not applaud and not show, not
Speaker 3: show that you're happy for the person who beat you.
Speaker 2: No, we don't know, we don't know. Non think so No,
Speaker 2: I don't recall that. I mean sometimes the women could
Speaker 2: smile more, But I mean I just don't, you.
Speaker 3: Know, like, stop telling black people how to be, how
Speaker 3: about it? Especially when you're playing in our faces very obviously,
Speaker 3: So you know, that's my whole thing. Del Roy I
Speaker 3: would have preferred he won, but like, don't not give
Speaker 3: him the award and give him shit for not being
Speaker 3: happy about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just bullshit exactly.
Speaker 3: Ryan Coogler did win for Best Original Screenplay, And I
Speaker 3: want to point out again original Screenplay to all these
Speaker 3: motherfuckers who were just saying that he copied from Dusk
Speaker 3: Till Dawn. No, no, no, no no, and no, no, no,
Speaker 3: no no. He was influenced by that film. He said
Speaker 3: so himself. But there is no like from Dust Till
Speaker 3: Dawn and Sinners. The similarities starting to end with we
Speaker 3: start telling a certain narrative, it goes on a journey,
Speaker 3: and then there's a vampire narrative in there as well.
Speaker 3: The differences from Dust Till Dawn was literally two stories
Speaker 3: by two directors that got slapped together and stitched in
Speaker 3: the middle, and all of a sudden, it's a vampire
Speaker 3: story because it starts off with this like criminal caper
Speaker 3: with Quentin Tarantino and George Clooney and they robbed a
Speaker 3: bank and they're on the lamb and they're taking hostages
Speaker 3: and they're killing motherfuckers and they're going they're fleeing to Mexico.
Speaker 3: And you like get into this story. And then they
Speaker 3: get to this bar in Mexico, the Titty Twister, after
Speaker 3: they've kidnapped Juliette Lewis and Harvey Kai Tel and the
Speaker 3: young Asian man whose name I don't know. Then they
Speaker 3: go to this bar called the Titty Twister, and then
Speaker 3: all of a sudden there's vampires. Like that's from.
Speaker 2: Dust till Dawn. Oh that sounds weird.
Speaker 3: It means like it's one of those things like you
Speaker 3: literally went A then B where comes from?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Whereas sinners? There is a whole thread, there's multiple narratives,
Speaker 3: there are weave together, there's no surprise the whole thing.
Speaker 3: You know what's going on. There's seeds being dropped. It
Speaker 3: is very artful and and and some trying to say
Speaker 3: it's not high art. How the fuck can you look
Speaker 3: at that juke joint scene and not say that it's
Speaker 3: high art? Who said random hateful ass motherfuckers.
Speaker 2: Because and that's.
Speaker 3: The other thing they performed I lied to you, yeah,
Speaker 3: on stage at the Oscars, and they recreated the scene
Speaker 3: which I referred to that as the scene.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and not easy to do live, but they did
Speaker 2: a really good job. They really did. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: the scene. The scene conjures the ancestors, yes, of all
Speaker 2: of the folks who are.
Speaker 3: There, well, it like it encapsulates the message that stayed
Speaker 3: at the beginning that like, sometimes music is so powerful
Speaker 3: that it blurs the edge of the ancestors in the future.
Speaker 3: And that's exactly what happened. So you had folks in
Speaker 3: the jupe joint next to like ancestral African dancers, next
Speaker 3: to like crip walking and twerking and be boys. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and they included like Chinese mask dancers and monkey dancers. Yes,
Speaker 3: because of the Asian folks that were everybody that was
Speaker 3: there was represented. It was so beautiful. Misty Copeland came
Speaker 3: out and performed twelve weeks after her hip surgery. Yes,
Speaker 3: and she did that whole performance on her new hip
Speaker 3: and it was fabulous.
Speaker 2: It really was. That was something to behold.
Speaker 3: And I believe I said to you after we watched
Speaker 3: that that I have a zero percent success rate of
Speaker 3: watching any iteration of that scene without crying my full ahead.
Speaker 3: I cried in the movie theater.
Speaker 2: I cried in.
Speaker 3: Our living room when we watched the movie together. I
Speaker 3: cried when I saw the.
Speaker 2: Oscars Yeah, it's it's a powerful it's so perfect.
Speaker 3: And then not to mention that, but they also incorporated
Speaker 3: not only Miles Kate and the original performer in the film,
Speaker 3: Raphael Sadiq was was performing Shaboozie Brittany Murphy Alice Smith Like.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah, Brittany Murphy. Not Brittany Murphy, Brittany Howard.
Speaker 2: Brittany Howard, right, she really is an ancest I didn't
Speaker 2: see her there, but maybe I didn't squint.
Speaker 3: Brittany Howard, it's who I met. And Buddy Guy was
Speaker 3: was in it?
Speaker 2: Like was he in the But I didn't see Buddy
Speaker 2: Guy on stage at the Oscars? Apparently he was there
Speaker 2: was Yeah, Okay, I didn't see that again Michael watched
Speaker 2: it again because Buddy Guy is in the film.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, like Miles's character basically grows up to be
Speaker 3: Buddy Guy. So it was spectacular and so, you know,
Speaker 3: they didn't win all the things they should have won,
Speaker 3: but I'm glad they won what they did. And Ryan Coogler,
Speaker 3: you know, has once again proven that he is a
Speaker 3: powerhouse artist. And I love that he and Michael B.
Speaker 3: Jordan have their working relationship. They have Michael B. Jordan
Speaker 3: has been in all of Arden Coogler's films, starting with
Speaker 3: way back in Fruitvale Station, which.
Speaker 2: Was so depressing. Yeah it was.
Speaker 3: I'm glad I saw it, But I mean it's one
Speaker 3: of those movies. I'm glad I saw it. It was
Speaker 3: masterfully done. I am never watching that again.
Speaker 2: You mentioned that.
Speaker 3: In fact, I think that's the time only one of
Speaker 3: Ryan Coogler's films that I have only watched once. Actually
Speaker 3: that's not true. I haven't watched uh Wakanda Forever a
Speaker 3: second time yet, but I will. Okay, which I am
Speaker 3: not going to say about Fruitvale Station.
Speaker 2: Now, I know that is Fruitvale Station? Is your what
Speaker 2: is that Beale Street? What is someone that I something
Speaker 2: awful done happen? Oh Women of Brewster Place, Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that's your Women of Brewster Place. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I actually have so much love in my heart for
Speaker 3: the women, and I just can't watch it with you
Speaker 3: anymore because you ruin it.
Speaker 2: Sorry, something awful happened. It's just you know, it's sad,
Speaker 2: and it just and then it gets sadder and then
Speaker 2: just when you you know, and it's like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: and then I want a perfectly good cul to sat
Speaker 2: I will.
Speaker 3: I will admit I did not realize exactly how fucking
Speaker 3: depressing that series is until I watched it with you.
Speaker 2: I know, because I was like, God, damn right, white
Speaker 2: people pay extra for that ship with the cold is
Speaker 2: saying yes, no, the part that knock it down and
Speaker 2: who's going to clean that up? Yeah?
Speaker 3: The part that took me out was when they had
Speaker 3: brought all the bricks down. You're like, no, who's going
Speaker 3: to clean that up?
Speaker 2: Sometimes? Yeah, my brokenness shines, I guess. But now, Brian,
Speaker 2: I was just like, that's peace right there. Why you
Speaker 2: want to knock that down? Since I keep that keeps
Speaker 2: you know, traffic to a minimum.
Speaker 3: I mean, since we're but that's.
Speaker 2: What they decided to collectively do. Horrible things kept happening.
Speaker 2: Let's knock down the wall. Like why. I still don't
Speaker 2: get it, but it felt like tragedy porn. I mean
Speaker 2: to me, I mean, something done happened. I mean, good.
Speaker 3: Cast, Well that's that's the reason why.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the cast is wonderful, but it's just sad.
Speaker 3: Paula Kelly, Paula Kelly, Okay, so my favoritest scene, yeah.
Speaker 2: She was Yeah, that's where she was yes, Paula Kelly. Yes.
Speaker 3: My favorite scene in Women of Brewster Place is when
Speaker 3: Paula Kelly, who plays one of the two lesbians, she's
Speaker 3: making her her meat loaf and the old nosey, busy
Speaker 3: body from across the way is looking in her apartment
Speaker 3: and she catches her and she goes on this tirade.
Speaker 3: She's saying, oh, you want.
Speaker 2: To see what I'm doing. I'm making meat loaf.
Speaker 3: You gotta have meat with the meat, and she starts
Speaker 3: throwing all the ingredients out the window with the woman.
Speaker 2: It was quite the scene, yes, very high strung and sad.
Speaker 2: Sad because it was sad. Nothing good happened. I just
Speaker 2: don't know how the hole in the wall made it better.
Speaker 3: It was an act of defiance.
Speaker 2: Again, white people pay extra well to have a dead
Speaker 2: end street. We do, yeah, but that's the thing.
Speaker 3: But they also had the gang standing there at the
Speaker 3: wall and causing.
Speaker 2: Well, and now now they have an egress. They're going
Speaker 2: to go away because they come on because they put
Speaker 2: a hole in the wall and gave them a pile
Speaker 2: of bricks. That's just weaponry.
Speaker 3: This is why I can't watch them to just don't.
Speaker 2: See how it made anything better. That's all.
Speaker 3: Congratulations to Sinners and absolutely Ryan Cooler and Michael B.
Speaker 2: Jordan and Michael B. Jordan there just this was just
Speaker 2: like a follow up. But you know, we've talked about
Speaker 2: the Kennedy Center a few times now and everyone who
Speaker 2: never wants to perform there again, or at least not
Speaker 2: under this administration. Apparently Richard Grinnell is leaving. Ah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the Kennedy Center loses their house. Faggot. I think that
Speaker 2: might have been the head. No, that was that wasn't
Speaker 2: the house.
Speaker 3: I was going to say he found another house.
Speaker 2: Kennedy Center's president is leaving after tumultuous year.
Speaker 3: Girl.
Speaker 2: Yes, the article, of course talks about the wave of
Speaker 2: cancelations and departures and now they're just going to close
Speaker 2: it for two years for a lengthy renovation. And by
Speaker 2: all accounts, the old the new one looks like the
Speaker 2: old one. Right, But apparently we are now promoting the
Speaker 2: head of facilities. Are you serious? Yeah, Matt Flakka, this
Speaker 2: vice president of Facilities Operations. I mean, who better I
Speaker 2: guess to oversee, you know, a renovation, because that's all
Speaker 2: they're going to do there is a renovation, because they
Speaker 2: can't get talent, right, so I guess let's re upholster it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to start seeing commercials for renting out
Speaker 3: the Kennedy Center.
Speaker 2: Well again two years. So they're closing somewhere around July fourth,
Speaker 2: which is prime time for performances, not where nobody wants
Speaker 2: your space. Let's not forget. There's been months of headlines
Speaker 2: about boycotts by patrons and high profile artists, including Philip Glass.
Speaker 2: Let's see Bellaflac, the San Francisco Ballet, the traveling production
Speaker 2: of Hamilton, which was fabulous. Yeah, all that happened under
Speaker 2: the tutelage of mister Grinnell. Yeh, Doug Varone, Yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 2: No one wants to play with you bitches. Yeah. He
Speaker 2: was trying to get rid of woke programming and refocus
Speaker 2: on more commercial fare that would attract new audiences and donors. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's in conversation with dance programmers. He cited the TV
Speaker 2: show So You Think You Can Dance and Paula Abdul
Speaker 2: as examples of the kind of material he wanted. We
Speaker 2: cannot have unpopular programming that doesn't pay the bills. Uh huh, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: I know, but see all of the people that go
Speaker 3: into so you think you can dance like the guest
Speaker 3: choreographers are the same people who have their own companies
Speaker 3: that they aren't bringing to the Kennedy Center.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean the National Symphony Orchestra. Nope, oh wait.
Speaker 2: They continued to perform there, but often to empty seats,
Speaker 2: scrambling to find substitutes for artists who canceled. He spend
Speaker 2: his time doing that, I guess.
Speaker 3: Orchestra versions of I Wish I was in Dixie don't
Speaker 3: fill a house like that.
Speaker 2: I guess not. Last week, executive director Gene Davidson announced
Speaker 2: she was leaving, saying she did not see how I
Speaker 2: could be effective as a leader in the current climate.
Speaker 2: M h yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Like things that are good, and no one good wants
Speaker 3: to be here.
Speaker 2: Exactly dozens undergre Now, dozens of Kennedy Center employees were
Speaker 2: either fired or quit. The institution increasingly bowed to Trump's
Speaker 2: demands and at times, his cultural preferences. Which there's what
Speaker 2: a funny sentence, What a funny little sentence. The President
Speaker 2: had approved over the selection of honorees for last year's
Speaker 2: Kennedy Center Honors, which he hosted himself. Of course he did.
Speaker 2: Oh my yeah, my god. You know. The decision to
Speaker 2: close has also caused an upper among Democrats. Representative Joyce
Speaker 2: Baty of Ohio and ex officio member of the center's board,
Speaker 2: has asked a federal court to block the plan, warning
Speaker 2: that Trump could be planning a surprise demolition of the center.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't pay Yeah, because they like the east wing.
Speaker 3: Did they ever put anything up where he demolished the
Speaker 3: east like?
Speaker 2: I don't Was it still rubble? I think it's still
Speaker 2: essentially rubble. I think yeah. I think he just knocked
Speaker 2: it down and that was that. When Friday, Trump posted
Speaker 2: two renderings of the future Kennedy Center online and said
Speaker 2: that it would be the finest facility of its kind
Speaker 2: anywhere in the world. It already was. It is not clear, however,
Speaker 2: whether performers and audiences will return as enthusiastically much less
Speaker 2: what it will look like after the project is completed.
Speaker 2: It won't be completed, yeah, probably not.
Speaker 3: No one's going to get paid well, and no one's
Speaker 3: going to finish when they're not getting paid.
Speaker 2: He should be in jail if we have mid terms. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, you know what.
Speaker 3: Keeps running through my mind when I keep hearing these
Speaker 3: stories and like hearing them use words, and like their
Speaker 3: use of the words.
Speaker 2: Just make no sense.
Speaker 3: There was this episode of the Twilight Zone where this
Speaker 3: guy woke up one day and suddenly like couldn't understand
Speaker 3: anything anyone was saying because everyone just started speaking gibberish
Speaker 3: uh huh. Like this feels exactly like his wife is saying,
Speaker 3: you know, come to downstairs your dinosaurs ready, and she
Speaker 3: meant breakfast, uh huh, And then he's like, what's breakfast
Speaker 3: and she goes it's kind of like.
Speaker 2: A red.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, it's like that. And by the end of
Speaker 3: the episode, like everyone's saying like the kangaroo Flapjacks are
Speaker 3: raspberrying the white wall tires.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, that sums up the Republican Party about in
Speaker 2: this administration. Yeah yeah. On that note, I don't I
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