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<v Speaker 1>Hmmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming to you from the dining room table at East

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<v Speaker 2>Barbary Lane. Welcome to a new episode of Full Circle

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<v Speaker 2>the Podcast. A visit to our home where we squeeze

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<v Speaker 2>a few headlines through our decidedly queer lens and see

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<v Speaker 2>what happens. This episode is brought to you by Decanted

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<v Speaker 2>jug Wine, Winter Spring, Summerfall, Winter, all in one week

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<v Speaker 2>and Amateur Night.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm your host Gerles Tyson Junior.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm your host Martha Madrigal. Welcome to the Full

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<v Speaker 2>Circle Table. Hi, baby, honey.

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<v Speaker 3>That's my favorite season, Winter spring, summer falls, all in one.

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<v Speaker 2>Sweater on leopard coat, on shorts and a tank top,

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<v Speaker 2>like all the windows open, the windows. Yeah right, we

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<v Speaker 2>went what was it the one night? One day it

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<v Speaker 2>was like seventy nine degrees literally and thirty five or

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<v Speaker 2>so that night.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, crazy, And then last night it was like in

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<v Speaker 3>the low thirties and windy, a is hail, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>I told you I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I checked under the car when I got to work

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure there wasn't a pair of feet and

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<v Speaker 3>striped socks sticking out underneath because.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of yeah, I heard the wind and I saw it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, shaking up the trees last night and and

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<v Speaker 2>it's we are recording Saint Patrick's Day, Yes, amateur night,

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<v Speaker 2>hence amateur night. Yeah, I this time of year, I

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<v Speaker 2>cannot help but think about the what was it called

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<v Speaker 2>the air and express? Is that? With that? God? I

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<v Speaker 2>still get nightmares. And we never participated as bar owners,

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<v Speaker 2>but that thing where they rent like it's school buses

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<v Speaker 2>full of very drunken people wearing green going from bar

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<v Speaker 2>to bar to bar and vomiting in the street and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>god knows what else. Yeah, a pub crawl. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>they were doing them like every weekend in March.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, it used to be on Saint Patrick's Day proper,

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<v Speaker 3>and then or if it wasn't on the weekend, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it was the weekend before, and then it became the

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<v Speaker 3>weekend before, and then the weekend before that, and then

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<v Speaker 3>just became every weekend in March.

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<v Speaker 2>Do they do it again? I mean I know because

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<v Speaker 2>then we had COVID, But like, did that pick back up?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't know, But what a mess.

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<v Speaker 2>What a mess.

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<v Speaker 3>I tried to not pay attention when it was happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember someone offering and I said, oh hell no,

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<v Speaker 2>hell to the fuck now, we don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm too cute for jail.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it's and it's like they you know, come

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<v Speaker 2>unmasks and then they're there. I don't even know how

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<v Speaker 2>long they're there, half hour maybe something like.

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<v Speaker 3>That, long enough to make a huge mass mess.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, long enough to need to hose everything down, right.

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<v Speaker 3>They leave you with a mess and PTSD.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well I told you about the story my bestde Lisa.

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<v Speaker 3>This is like years and years ago, and she was

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<v Speaker 3>on the bus and there was this couple. They were

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<v Speaker 3>they had had their day on the air and express

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<v Speaker 3>and the girl was really really really really drunk and

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<v Speaker 3>she kept like slumping over on Lisa and Lisa kept

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<v Speaker 3>pushing her over and after about the third time, she

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<v Speaker 3>help holds the girl up with one hand, looks past

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<v Speaker 3>her to the boyfriend, was like, if she lands on

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<v Speaker 3>me again, I will slap her.

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<v Speaker 2>And she did and she did. That makes me think

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<v Speaker 2>of the time we were dancing, probably the last time

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<v Speaker 2>we went dancing at Voyer. Oh god, when when that

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<v Speaker 2>There were two lesbians on the dance floor and they

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<v Speaker 2>kept the one and kept slamming into me, and I

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<v Speaker 2>apologized and pushed you into her and she hit the floor.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember that he using me as a projectile I did,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry and made her land. Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And that should tell you how long ago it was,

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<v Speaker 3>because there were queer people at Voyeur.

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<v Speaker 2>That were right exactly exactly some right right he was

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<v Speaker 2>already being you know, yeah, but there were some and

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<v Speaker 2>I just I remember that because it was really annoying

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<v Speaker 2>and she was like stepping on me, and I kept

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<v Speaker 2>kind of moving and then here she is again and moving,

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<v Speaker 2>and here she is again. I'm sorry, I shoved you

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<v Speaker 2>knocked the right hour. I mean, she was having a

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<v Speaker 2>bowling pin.

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<v Speaker 3>She was having trouble differentiating between the one and the

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<v Speaker 3>three and the two and the four. You want her

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<v Speaker 3>to have front, back, left and right together too.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted. I wanted personal space, is what I wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. Yeah not maybe not my finest movement. But

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<v Speaker 2>what are you going to do? Crazy week? We've got

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<v Speaker 2>a ton of stuff, a ton of things to mal

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<v Speaker 2>I did do the Women's History Month panel.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you did this past week, and you rocked that ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you. You really did good experience. It

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<v Speaker 2>was good to be included in the conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>And you were among some fears company.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it was kind of great and there was

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<v Speaker 2>a good back and forth discussion. Yeah, instead of just

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<v Speaker 2>folks answering questions, we were discussing the answers to the

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<v Speaker 2>questions as well. It was good. I liked it, had fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and your candor from the gidde up softened the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of the women up so that they felt freer

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<v Speaker 3>to express themselves more fully than they might have so quickly. Huh,

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<v Speaker 3>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>My candor huh. Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what you mean by that.

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<v Speaker 3>But well, no, because, like you would, you led with

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<v Speaker 3>your usual like wit and clarity and dare I say,

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<v Speaker 3>cynicism at times, well rightly earned and appropriate. But when

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<v Speaker 3>you like first introduced that into the conversation, injected into

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<v Speaker 3>the conversation, I should say, at first they were like

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<v Speaker 3>and then they were like, yeah, okay, I'll take it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take it. Yeah, it was fun. I had a

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<v Speaker 2>good time, and it's you know, it's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>good back and forth, a lot of good feedback afterwards.

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<v Speaker 2>I was invited to already invited to participate next year

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<v Speaker 2>and I plan to the Yeah, that was at our

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<v Speaker 2>local Teachers Union, which was great, and it was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>an important it's an important topic and I know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I did also mention, you know, being in the news

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<v Speaker 2>and then being you know, it's it's kind of important

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<v Speaker 2>to also be in the discussion, correct and et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>Always and how you know, diversity is strengths and we

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<v Speaker 2>always get better outcomes when there are more of us

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<v Speaker 2>sharing at the table. Indeed, I know that's such a

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<v Speaker 2>foreign concept these days. It shouldn't be exactly. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 2>it was good. I was glad I did it. It

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<v Speaker 2>was fun. I'm glad I was there. I've got another

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<v Speaker 2>talk coming up on May second.

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<v Speaker 3>Because you are what booked and blessed Booked and blessed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and another one I'm in the works for June.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, we'll see what else happens.

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<v Speaker 3>If you would like to book and bless us, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I go ahead and set up a book us page

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<v Speaker 3>because apparently it's going to have to happen. Hey why not,

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<v Speaker 3>Hey we have someone that left us. Yes, recently, Judy

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<v Speaker 3>Pace passed away this past week.

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<v Speaker 2>Took me a minute to recognize her.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she passed away at eighty three. She was famous

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<v Speaker 3>for appearing Hayton Place and Brian's Song. She was once

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<v Speaker 3>described by Variety as the most beautiful black actress in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, she died in.

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<v Speaker 3>Her sleep on Wednesday while visiting family in Marina del Rey.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember her in She was in a couple episodes

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<v Speaker 3>of What's Happening. The one in particular that I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 3>of is the one where Roger he was in the

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<v Speaker 3>hospital and she played the nurse and he was like

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<v Speaker 3>all infatuated with her, and she was just like trying

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<v Speaker 3>desperately not to laugh at him.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Black exploitation was a big part of her home career. Apparently.

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<v Speaker 2>I was reading her a little bit in the New

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<v Speaker 2>York Times.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she was described as a stone fox.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>She was in a Cotton Comes to Harlem in nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>seventy she played the seductive Iris.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and Peyton Place, which I don't remember, so that

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<v Speaker 2>must have been a thing that was gone. I know

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<v Speaker 2>my ya had awareness Peyton Place. I knew the name

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<v Speaker 2>Peyton Place. I knew it as a reference to like

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<v Speaker 2>drama and yeah, yeah, and the you know Genie c

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<v Speaker 2>Riley song, right, that's all Harper Valley, PDA that one.

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<v Speaker 2>But so I knew the idea of it, but not

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<v Speaker 2>the because I believe it was a soap opera.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, from the sixties, she played a backstabbing schemer, oh my.

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<v Speaker 2>And she won.

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<v Speaker 3>In nineteen seventies, she won an NAACP Image Award for

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<v Speaker 3>her role as an unapologetic career woman on the series

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<v Speaker 3>The Young Lawyers Okay, yeah, all right, which I never

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<v Speaker 3>knew about until reading about.

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<v Speaker 2>It off well, As is often the case, we like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, hear these names and then look back and go,

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<v Speaker 2>wait a minute, She'll say, did that right?

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<v Speaker 3>Because these are shows that were popular like five years

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<v Speaker 3>before I came around, which doesn't necessarily mean anything. But

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes certain shows like they come and go so quickly

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<v Speaker 3>that you know, I don't get to know about them.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. We were just having a Kathy and I were

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<v Speaker 2>having a conversation yesterday about you know, references that young

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<v Speaker 2>folks just don't necessarily get. I know, how do they

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<v Speaker 2>not like.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, it feels like they're so uncultured. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>there's an argument to be made that they're not, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and I you know, and I said, at least

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<v Speaker 2>in part. You know, we grew up in multi generational

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<v Speaker 2>houses right here, Kathy did too, you know, Grangray lived

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<v Speaker 2>with them, right, So meaning, you know, my grandmother taught

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<v Speaker 2>me how to do the Charleston. My grandmother was born

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen oh nine. She lived in this house. Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 2>My mother was born in nineteen thirty, right, and then

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<v Speaker 2>my brother and sister you know, in the early nineteen fifties,

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<v Speaker 2>and so we had you know, there was so much

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<v Speaker 2>and then my mother was an old movie buff and

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<v Speaker 2>all that. So I get references that are probably that

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<v Speaker 2>are older than I am, right, same, yeah, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you can talk to a thirty five or forty year

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<v Speaker 2>old and there's not a whole lot goes past. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>no gun smoke. We were talking about gun smoke and

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<v Speaker 2>a younger person going, what's that right?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, like I never watched gun smoke and never cared

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<v Speaker 3>to watch gun smoke, but I know what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, But you right, but you have a you know

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<v Speaker 2>what it is right? It was right? This was just

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<v Speaker 2>a blank stare right. And and Ernie Kovax was the

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<v Speaker 2>other one that came up, and it was like, who.

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<v Speaker 3>That's another one. I recognized the name, but I couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>tell you what. At least I recognize the name.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, at least you do. And it's googleable. It's all googleable.

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<v Speaker 2>But it just gets me how many references from Well, there's.

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<v Speaker 3>People of a certain age whose frame of reference doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>I well, or later. Yeah, that's kind of crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>They consider pre YouTube to be ancient history.

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<v Speaker 2>think it went off the air in seventy four maybe right.

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<v Speaker 2>It was syndicated for me, Yeah, and my father was

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<v Speaker 3>There's certain classic TV shows that I watched primarily in reruns.

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<v Speaker 2>All in the Family, the Jefferson's Maud, that was all,

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<v Speaker 2>but like things like I Dream of Genie that those

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<v Speaker 2>were in syndication. Bewitched. Yes, I'm trying to think was Bewitched.

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<v Speaker 2>that was always syndication for me. But I remember All

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<v Speaker 3>I realized that Dream of Genie and Bewitched we're very

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<v Speaker 3>Like to this day, I would love to be able

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen you do that though I would disappear part

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<v Speaker 2>got it? Fair? Fair enough? Funny? Yeah, so we were

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<v Speaker 2>just that was a conversation. I just remember saying to

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<v Speaker 2>who leave this house? Leave? Where did I go wrong?

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<v Speaker 2>How is this possible?

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<v Speaker 3>A person that we used to know didn't recognize share?

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<v Speaker 3>And you said, I know you're straight, but you don't

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<v Speaker 2>Please don't? Yeah, please, I mean, that's that's just not

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<v Speaker 2>Suspect anyway?

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<v Speaker 3>But all that to say, rest in peace, Judy Pace.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, but see that's.

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<v Speaker 3>How influential she was because she prompted this entire conversation

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<v Speaker 2>In the seventies. Yes, yes, that will be a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a team. Speaking of the nineteen seventies, now, Chas

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<v Speaker 2>Bona got married, did he? Yes? He did? And what

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<v Speaker 2>was described as a Hollywood glam wedding. I mean he

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<v Speaker 2>for like nine years, but they have known each other

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<v Speaker 2>they met as teenage. They've known each other for forty years. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>Sharah Blue Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Sharah Blue mathis right?

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<v Speaker 2>Is his new wife?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm guessing Sherah Blue mathis Bono.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I don't know, maybe, but yeah, they they have

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<v Speaker 2>been in a relationship for nine years. They got married

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<v Speaker 2>at the Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel on Sunday, March eighth, And

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<v Speaker 2>there's a picture of them with cher, which is I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's an older picture, but anyway, it's not. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not from the wedding. It's what I mean. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure I'm was there, Okay, you know, I would be

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Chez is h fully settled into his bear face.

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<v Speaker 2>She was in attendance. According to People magazine, I've all read.

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<v Speaker 3>That Chaz Bono is like primarily heterosexual.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, so, yeah, can you be a bear of

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<v Speaker 2>you're streak? I hmm, would that be the word? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I never so.

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<v Speaker 3>I just you know, well he looks good, is my

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<v Speaker 3>overall point?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yes, but yes, straight.

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<v Speaker 3>My only frame of reference for a guy who I

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<v Speaker 3>think is cute with the beard is bear, right, So

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<v Speaker 3>do with that what you will. What is the straight

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<v Speaker 3>counterpart of Bear?

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<v Speaker 2>They are both fifty seven. I don't know, dad Bod

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<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe anyway? Good for him? Yeah, big congratulations, congratulations.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I have a wonderful and long life together. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was a way to kick off good news. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>because yeah, and something to celebrate.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone let me know what the straight counterpart of bear is?

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<v Speaker 3>Full circlethepod dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the only thing I can think of is like that,

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<v Speaker 2>because dad Bod is the thing I have heard the

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<v Speaker 2>straight say. I guess I.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it actually couldn't be there because then women would

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<v Speaker 2>Oh right, ah, gotcha, thank gotcha. I there is a

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<v Speaker 2>meme I saw the other day that said, if you

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<v Speaker 2>could choose to be gay, we'd have a hell of

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more lesbians.

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<v Speaker 3>For real though, yep, because what was the other one?

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<v Speaker 2>Straight men?

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<v Speaker 3>Or evidence that sexuality is.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a choice? Not a choice? Yeah, yep, yep. All

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of gems out there right in Memeland. So Zohan

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<v Speaker 2>Mom Donnie uh huh announced first of all, a new

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<v Speaker 2>office Mayor's Office of lgbt q I A plus affairs.

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<v Speaker 2>So wait, Philly had one before New York apparently, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's not surprising. Actually, I believe he had to

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<v Speaker 2>sign an executive order to create the office. Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 2>establishing the first ever Mayor's office of LGBTQAA plus affairs.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we barely have on here. I'm hoping now

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<v Speaker 2>that Tito, our friend Tito, was given the job, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>we'll cease some activity out of that job. At you.

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<v Speaker 2>We will a very long time. And the first director

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<v Speaker 2>is a trans woman named Taylor Brown, and she will

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<v Speaker 3>This is cool and she looks like she's a get

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<v Speaker 3>shit done kind of person.

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<v Speaker 2>She does, doesn't she? She said, New York has given

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<v Speaker 2>me everything life saving healthcare, education, a home, a career,

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<v Speaker 2>my chosen family, and a life of purpose. She added

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<v Speaker 2>that she is so proud to be appointed as the

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<v Speaker 2>inaugural director of the office. I will work every day

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<v Speaker 2>to ensure that the doors of New York City remain

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<v Speaker 2>open to all and to continue New York City's legacy

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<v Speaker 2>as a beacon of opportunity and hope for those who

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<v Speaker 2>have been ignored, discriminated against, and intentionally excluded work. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>She has a long history of LGBTQ focused legal advocacy,

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<v Speaker 2>She previously worked at the National LGBTQ Plus Task Force,

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<v Speaker 2>lambed Illegal and the ACLU.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so this comes with credentials.

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<v Speaker 2>In addition, Yeah, she is an attorney. So in addition

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<v Speaker 2>to her accolades as an attorney, the press release described

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<v Speaker 2>her as a proud biracial, black, transgender woman who has

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<v Speaker 2>survived violence related to her status, poverty, housing and stability, employment,

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<v Speaker 2>and healthcare discrimination to become a trailblazing civil rights litigator

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<v Speaker 2>and advocate. Oh wait, she black. There's some of that

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<v Speaker 2>in there. I did not get that, that is what

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, work, Well, they that might be part of biracial.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how often do you get that, Pappy, Pappy,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm mad at you. How often frequently is there an assumption?

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<v Speaker 2>You're right?

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<v Speaker 3>I just found out that de Barge was black, like

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<v Speaker 2>So who am I really? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>That's interesting, El DeBarge, Chico de Barge. Look at the hair.

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I grew up without Google.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just using my peepers and assumptions, hence Poppy exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, who am I? Who am me? I get it?

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. Let's say, where are we going here?

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<v Speaker 2>San Jose State University sued the Trump administration over anti

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<v Speaker 2>trans threats, and they are refusing to capitulate. The Trump

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<v Speaker 2>regime said San Jose State had to break state law

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<v Speaker 2>isn't budgeing good. San Jose State University in California has

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<v Speaker 2>filed a scathing lawsuit against the Trump administration's Department of Education,

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<v Speaker 2>rejecting the regime's attempts to use the crisis it manufactured

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<v Speaker 2>and consequential anti LGBTQ crackdowns. I love the use of

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<v Speaker 2>the word regime. Yeah, I hear you. San Jose State

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<v Speaker 2>became a flashpoint of the rights obsession with trans use

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<v Speaker 2>after a student athlete was auted on the national stage.

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<v Speaker 2>They investigated San Jose State for supposed civil rights violations,

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<v Speaker 2>arguing that the athlete's mere presence on the team in

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<v Speaker 2>fringed on the rights of the other women and title nine,

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<v Speaker 2>oh bitch, crazy, backward, and crazy. The resolution proposed by

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<v Speaker 2>the Department's Office of Civil Rights. There's a string of

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<v Speaker 2>words would have the university banned trans women from women's

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<v Speaker 2>sports teams, bathrooms, locker rooms, and dorm rooms in violation

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<v Speaker 2>of state law, strip trans women of their athletic medals

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<v Speaker 2>and honors. Issue apology letters to any presumed cisgender woman.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm serious. Yeah, you're listening to this, presumed yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Issue apology letters to any presumed cisgender woman who competed

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<v Speaker 2>with a trans athlete, and adopt the GOP's definition of

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<v Speaker 2>sex in every aspect of campus life going forward. If

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<v Speaker 2>they don't comply, they could lose federal funding. This strong

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<v Speaker 2>arming bullshit man. Instead, they went on the offensive and

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<v Speaker 2>their sewing and good yep. Federal agencies have cajoled countless

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<v Speaker 2>institutions of higher education into some form of capitulation since

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning of this Jackasses renewed term Penn Sadly, Brown, Northwestern,

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<v Speaker 2>and other elite colleges have made bargains sacrificing anything from

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<v Speaker 2>preserve their federal funding. Yep, anyway, appeasement doesn't work. This

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<v Speaker 2>student led campus group trans Talk. The unapologetic lawsuit represents

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<v Speaker 2>when other universities are bending the knee to Trump's anti transagenda.

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<v Speaker 2>Appeasement doesn't work, they just come back for more correct

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<v Speaker 2>so standing up now is really important. The lawsuit itself

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<v Speaker 2>challenges Trump's anti trans threats on the grounds that it

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<v Speaker 2>constitutes government overreach, that it violates the Administrative Procedure Act,

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<v Speaker 2>and that it is downright unconstitutional. It attempts to retroactively

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<v Speaker 2>punish the university over Trumpean policies it did not break,

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<v Speaker 2>in part because the supposed violations predate the president's current term.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh, crazy. This is all we have to worry about, right,

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<v Speaker 2>This is it. This is all the show. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>is what's going on at every Yeah, is so insane.

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<v Speaker 3>When this is all over, I'm picturing like a huge parade,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like in that one scene of Game of Thrones,

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<v Speaker 3>where all the people that voted for this stuff and

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<v Speaker 3>all the people that supported this stuff are going to

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<v Speaker 3>get led through the streets ins and chains while people

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<v Speaker 3>on the side scream shame, shame, shame, and spit and

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<v Speaker 3>throw rotten shit at them, I mean, and then when

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<v Speaker 3>they get home, they go and shave their head and

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<v Speaker 3>make them stay in the house for six months. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's what should happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I hear you. Good for them, And you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>And that was the thing that really pissed me off

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<v Speaker 2>is that the University of Pennsylvania has quite an endowment

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<v Speaker 2>these days, and they could have weathered the storm.

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<v Speaker 3>One would think they could have lacking the courage of

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<v Speaker 3>their convictions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep, yep. Anyway, they're not having it, and I

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<v Speaker 2>love it. Yeah. Really. In a statement to the press,

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<v Speaker 2>the California State University System, which oversees this one, made

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<v Speaker 2>clear its commitment, which oversees SJSU, to standing up for

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<v Speaker 2>its students. The federal government may not punish the CSU

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<v Speaker 2>for conduct that complied with binding federal law and the

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<v Speaker 2>government's own guidance at the time. Therefore, the CSU will

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<v Speaker 2>not agree to accept the terms of the proposed resolution agreement.

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<v Speaker 2>The CSU remains unwavering and its commitment to fostering and inclusive,

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<v Speaker 2>respectral and safe environment for all students, faculty, and staff,

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<v Speaker 2>including members of our LGBTQ plus community, and it's never

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<v Speaker 2>been more important for clear and unambiguous action, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to come from states like California, a New Jersey and

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<v Speaker 2>New York. You know that do not bend a knee

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<v Speaker 2>that and will not write you know, because trans people

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<v Speaker 2>are running out of places to go, which we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>into that part. Yeah. Yeah, So the states where we're

447
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<v Speaker 2>winding up need to step up or continue to step

448
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<v Speaker 2>up past that. Anyway, A federal judge ruled that etna's

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<v Speaker 2>blanket denial of facial surgery for transwomen FFS is sex discrimination. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. The landmark ruling could lead to broader

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<v Speaker 2>FFS coverage in the future. The federal judge ruled that

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<v Speaker 2>etna's categorical denial of facial feminization surgery for transgender women

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<v Speaker 2>constitutes sex discrimination under the Affordable Care Act, and it does.

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<v Speaker 2>The landmark ruling, handed down in the US District Court

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<v Speaker 2>for the District of Connecticut, is believed to be the

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<v Speaker 2>first federal court order requiring a major private insurer to

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<v Speaker 2>make individualized coverage determinations for gender affirming facial surgery rather

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<v Speaker 2>than automatically rejecting every claim as cosmetic good. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>it's in good news. The case was brought by six

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<v Speaker 2>transgender women who sought coverage for FFS to treat severe

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<v Speaker 2>gender dysphoria, but were denied under etna's clinical policy bullet

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<v Speaker 2>and zero six one five, which categorically excludes all gender

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<v Speaker 2>affirming facial procedures from coverage. Though the preliminary injunction applies

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<v Speaker 2>to only two of the six plaintiffs, the class action

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<v Speaker 2>is pending, and the court's legal reasoning will serve as

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<v Speaker 2>a powerful precedent for trans women denied this coverage nationwide.

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<v Speaker 2>To be clear, the issue is not whether etna's policy

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<v Speaker 2>exclusion prohibits this type of gender firming care, but rather

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<v Speaker 2>that etna's policy exclusion prohibits only transgender individuals, the only

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<v Speaker 2>individuals who can experience gender dysphoria exactly, from receiving this

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<v Speaker 2>type of gender firming care. Thus, when ETNA decided that

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<v Speaker 2>these procedures performed as a component of a gender transition

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<v Speaker 2>were not medically necessary and cosmetic, they prohibited only trans

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<v Speaker 2>individuals from seeking this metaal care and thus discriminated on

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<v Speaker 2>the basis of sex. Here here, yep, yeah, good good.

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<v Speaker 2>They're leaning on Bostock versus Clayton County, and you know good,

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<v Speaker 2>we need to see more of this. Indeed, the article

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm reading from, of course, is from Aaron in

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<v Speaker 2>the Morning, so it does go on to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>how critical this type of surgery is because it is. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it is so good news, very good news exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Governor Veto's bill that would have funded Charlie Kirk's Patilli

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<v Speaker 3>anti LGBTQ plus organization.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, Turning Point USA has raked in millions, but

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<v Speaker 2>a far right congressman wanted to give it even more.

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<v Speaker 3>Arizona Governor Katie Hobbs, Democrat, vetoed a bill to create

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<v Speaker 3>US specialty license plate.

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<v Speaker 2>Honoring slain.

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<v Speaker 3>MAGA influencer Charlie Kirk. Republican legislators are unlikely to override

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<v Speaker 3>her veto as they only have six and four seat

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<v Speaker 3>majorities in the House and Senate, respectively.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, so they can override right. The bill would have

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<v Speaker 2>donated seventeen dollars of the license plate's twenty five dollars

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<v Speaker 2>price to Turning Point USA, Kirk's organization for Young conservatives,

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<v Speaker 2>which pushes anti trans, anti immigrant stances and encourages students

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<v Speaker 2>to harass and report left wing college professors. In her

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<v Speaker 2>March sixth Veto letter, Hobbs wrote that the bill fell

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<v Speaker 2>short of working towards solutions that bring people together. No, shoot,

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<v Speaker 2>by inserting politics into a function of government that should

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<v Speaker 2>remain nonpartisan. Hmm. Democratic legislators in Arizona said the bill

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<v Speaker 2>would needlessly provide government assay stints to help fund a

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<v Speaker 2>wealthy organization. Yeah, they raised eighty five million dollars in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four and their political action committee Turning Point Action,

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<v Speaker 2>which supports far right Republican candidates and registers conservative voters,

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<v Speaker 2>raised over twenty seven million dollars that same year. Ow

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<v Speaker 2>youw indeed anyway, SHP blocked it and good indeed. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they are at the forefront of the movement to promote

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<v Speaker 2>Christian nationalism, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>their hate group is a hate group. Yep, and good,

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<v Speaker 2>so thank you. What's next?

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<v Speaker 3>The moms who risked jail and deportation to fight for

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<v Speaker 3>their trans kids is the headline yep from LGBTQ Nation.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>I just felt like when I I look at my

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<v Speaker 3>kid in the eyes, years from now, I can say

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<v Speaker 3>I did everything that I could. So three mothers of

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<v Speaker 3>trans kids were speaking out after they were arrested while

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<v Speaker 3>protesting proposed Trump administration policies that would effectively end gender

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<v Speaker 3>affirming care for miners at hospitals across the US. The

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<v Speaker 3>proposed rules would block all federal funding through Medicare, Medicaid,

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<v Speaker 3>and the Children's Health Insurance Program also known as CHIP

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<v Speaker 3>for any hospital that provides gender affirming care to patients

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<v Speaker 3>under the age of eighteen the sick fuck. The change

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<v Speaker 3>would amount to a nationwide ban on gender affirming care

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<v Speaker 3>for miners at hospitals that rely on federal Medicare and

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<v Speaker 3>Medicaid funding.

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<v Speaker 2>They're disgusting, truly.

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<v Speaker 3>On February seventeenth, more than fifty activists, including parents and

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<v Speaker 3>grandparents of transgender young people, gathered outside the Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 3>Headquarters of the US Department of Health and Human Services

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<v Speaker 3>for a protest organized by the Gender liber Movement. The

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<v Speaker 3>three moms were among twenty five demonstrators taken into custody

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<v Speaker 3>by Department of Homeland Security agents. They were later handed

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<v Speaker 3>over to the DC Metropolitan Police Department.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah MMM Gestapo.

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<v Speaker 3>Larissa Godfrey Smith, a DC based therapist who works with

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<v Speaker 3>trans kids and their families as well as trans adults,

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<v Speaker 3>told the Nineteenth that she and her husband had considered

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<v Speaker 3>the risk of her getting arrested and decided that participating

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<v Speaker 3>in the protest was worth it work. Godfree Smith told

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<v Speaker 3>the outlet they've seen firsthand. The told the Trump administration's

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<v Speaker 3>anti transagenda is having on her clients. I'm so angry

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<v Speaker 3>and so frustrated. I'm just so exhausted at the misinformation,

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<v Speaker 3>they said.

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<v Speaker 2>Word up.

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<v Speaker 3>Godfree Smith said she and other protesters were held for

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<v Speaker 3>twelve hours in a jail cell.

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<v Speaker 2>With no running water. That's not acceptable. She says.

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<v Speaker 3>They were fed once, had to be egg for water,

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<v Speaker 3>and were unable to sleep. GLM co founder L. E. L. Cruz,

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<v Speaker 3>who was also arrested, previously told them that many protesters

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<v Speaker 3>were denied phone calls to attorneys and family members. This

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<v Speaker 3>is actually illegal, Cruz said. The demonstrators were charged with

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<v Speaker 3>unlawful entry even though none of them entered the HHS building.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty one states and Washington DC have sued HHS to

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<v Speaker 2>block the proposed rules around Medicaid and Medicare, and for now,

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<v Speaker 2>the administration's efforts to investigate hospitals use gender affirming care

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<v Speaker 2>programs have been halted, but that has not stopped dozens

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<v Speaker 2>of hospitals across the country from preemptively shutting down their programs.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. Yeah, and we do know that that is

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<v Speaker 2>happening late last months. Of course, we know New York

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<v Speaker 2>Attorney General Letitia James' office ordered and Yulangone to reopen

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<v Speaker 2>their program, citing state anti discrimination laws, but they have

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<v Speaker 2>yet to publicly respond to the order of Panion as

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<v Speaker 2>of this writing. Yeah, one of the moms said, I

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<v Speaker 2>have seen firsthands that gender affirming care is life saving

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<v Speaker 2>for teenagers. I really believe it saved my children's lives

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<v Speaker 2>that you did. Agreed, so agreed, And you know it

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<v Speaker 2>is just despicable the lies that they are telling about

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<v Speaker 2>this right want to protect our pedophiles. Yeah, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>rob the Treasury of the United States blind. I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm constantly yelling, like the moms are getting madder and madder.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm constantly yelling on social media they are not

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<v Speaker 3>doing surgeries on children. Stop believing the bullshit you hear exactly,

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<v Speaker 3>you fucking sheep.

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<v Speaker 2>Next, Sophia Bush, who is a queer actress, has earned

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<v Speaker 2>praise for comments she made about white allyship at the

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<v Speaker 2>NAACP Image Awards on February twenty eighth. I remember this, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>art is always political, she said in an interview outside

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<v Speaker 2>the event. As the white friend at the event, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go ahead and say to the women who look

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<v Speaker 2>like me, to the men who look like me, it's

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly important to remember that so much of what we

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<v Speaker 2>love in America comes from black culture. Yep. And white

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<v Speaker 2>people need to show up for black people the way

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<v Speaker 2>they show up to be entertained by black culture. Tell

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<v Speaker 2>it so. Given who's in office, and given what we're

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<v Speaker 2>seeing happen to black and brown communities in our country,

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<v Speaker 2>we better get our shit together. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw that video when she said that, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, you better say it girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep, that's unambiguous and thank you pee needed to

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<v Speaker 2>be said, needed to be said, and she said it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's all I thought. It bore repeating, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Katie Coreic confronts Gavin Newsom on his shifting views on

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<v Speaker 3>transgender youth.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone's too fucking delicious. I've been waiting for somebody to

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<v Speaker 2>say what in hell?

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<v Speaker 3>The veteran journalists called the California governor out on the

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<v Speaker 3>perception that he's retreating from his LGBTQ plus rights allyeship.

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<v Speaker 3>It ain't the perception, it's the fucking reality.

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<v Speaker 2>M hm. The exchange aimed a spotlight at a growing

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<v Speaker 2>tension inside democratic politics, which is such bullshit about how

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<v Speaker 2>to confront a wave of conservative attacks targeting trans Americans

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<v Speaker 2>while navigating an increasingly polarized political environment. Right's right and wrong?

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<v Speaker 2>As nobody you jerk offs that part. How about that?

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<v Speaker 2>For decades, Democrats have positioned themselves as the party of inclusion,

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<v Speaker 2>arguing that government should defend the equal rights of all people,

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<v Speaker 2>including LGBTQ plus Americans. Republicans, meanwhile, have increasingly centered transgender

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<v Speaker 2>issues and campaign messages and legislation, and they keep losing

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<v Speaker 2>pay attention. Corek confronted Newsom with criticism from transgender advocates,

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<v Speaker 2>who say his recent rhetoric risks reinforcing those dynamics. Here here, Bam,

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<v Speaker 2>one of my followers who is trans, feels as if

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<v Speaker 2>you're throwing trans people under the bus and that you

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<v Speaker 2>see them as a political liability. Get them. Newsom rejected

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<v Speaker 2>the claim. Of course he did. Of course he did,

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<v Speaker 2>pointing to what he described as a long record supporting

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<v Speaker 2>transgender rights in California. He's saying yet to the person

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<v Speaker 2>who's promoted and signed more trans legislation than any elected

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<v Speaker 2>official in this country, Newsom said. He emphasized, well, then,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're talking out of both sides of your face,

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<v Speaker 2>and the double speak is what I can't stand about.

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<v Speaker 2>Slick Gavin Newsom right. Ugh. He emphasized personal connections as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh God, here we go. I have a trans odd

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<v Speaker 2>Sonny said, remarking that he signed what he described as

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<v Speaker 2>some of the most progressive trans legislation just nine months ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a black friend. Uh huh. He's frequently pointed

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<v Speaker 2>to California's legislative record to defend those credentials. Since taking

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<v Speaker 2>office in twenty nineteen, he has signed numerous measures expanding

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<v Speaker 2>protections for LGBTQ plus residents, including laws easing the process

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<v Speaker 2>for legal name and gender marker changes, requiring universities to

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<v Speaker 2>provide LGBTQ specific suicide prevention resources, and strengthening privacy protections

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<v Speaker 2>around gender affirming care. I let him in my house too,

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<v Speaker 2>and California has also enacted policies designed to protect trans

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<v Speaker 2>students and families seeking gender affirming treatment. Okay, uh huh, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>he has and He also reiterated a position that has

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<v Speaker 2>drawn criticism, his belief that questions of competitive fairness arise

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<v Speaker 2>when transgender athletes compete in certain sports. There is no

639
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<v Speaker 2>fucking proof to this, right. It's based on lies, jackass.

640
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<v Speaker 2>This is like his little nod to you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>people who are creeped out by the trannees. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it, yeah, I'll bet you do. I cannot

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<v Speaker 2>back up an argument in favor in a competitive environment

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<v Speaker 2>for sports, he said, referencing track competitions in California that

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<v Speaker 2>he said sparked policy challenges. State officials, he added, have

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<v Speaker 2>struggled to find a policy that satisfies all sides because

647
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<v Speaker 2>you can't satisfy all sides. You've got the liars, and

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<v Speaker 2>you got the people who just want to play right,

649
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<v Speaker 2>you know. And trans athletes have been playing by rules

650
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<v Speaker 2>that let level the playing field for years without incident,

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<v Speaker 2>until the conservatives decided to make us an incident. We're

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<v Speaker 2>still a distraction. It's still all based on lies. But

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, but you know, they have a point there.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not two sides to everything. No, there isn't, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so sick of it. We just couldn't figure out

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<v Speaker 2>how to make this fair. Really, how about you tell

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<v Speaker 2>them to grow up and leave the foke alone. How

658
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<v Speaker 2>about you do that? How about you point to the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that these questions were asked and answered in each sport.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if it was a sport where it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>asked and answered, then let's ask an answer it based

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<v Speaker 2>on science and factsines, not ignorant loudmails. Right Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 2>The debate he referenced has become increasingly heated in California,

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<v Speaker 2>where a handful of transgender high school athletes have found

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<v Speaker 2>themselves at the center of national political fights. Some teams

666
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<v Speaker 2>competing under the state's inclusive policies have faced organized campaigns

667
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<v Speaker 2>to bar them from competition, as well as lawsuits and

668
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<v Speaker 2>protests backed by conservative groups, of course, seeking to overturn

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<v Speaker 2>those policies. For the students themselves, the attention has been

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<v Speaker 2>overwhelming and motivating. One California trans athlete told the La

671
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<v Speaker 2>Times that continuing to compete feels like an act of resistance.

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<v Speaker 2>If I stop doing sports, they won. Quirk noted that

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<v Speaker 2>trans athletes are uncommon. These incidents are pretty rare, extremely rare,

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<v Speaker 2>say the least, asking whether the topic is consuming disproportionate

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<v Speaker 2>attention in national politics. It is, yeah. Uh. Newsom agreed

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<v Speaker 2>that the number of athletes involved is small, but argued

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<v Speaker 2>that the political consequences are significant if you make it

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<v Speaker 2>a political n right. Never has more focus been attended

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<v Speaker 2>to so few people, he said, we now criticizing conservative

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<v Speaker 2>politicians for what he describes as scapegoating transgender Americans. That

681
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<v Speaker 2>is exactly what's happening. So why don't you stop feeding it?

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<v Speaker 2>You jerk off that part. It's disgraceful what these guys

683
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<v Speaker 2>do and what they've done to the trans community, he added,

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<v Speaker 2>pointing to legislation restricting gender firming care and other rights.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh huh, don't say they like.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not you two exactly, but you know, but you're

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<v Speaker 2>doing that thing that what about ism? Well, you know,

688
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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you up until this point, but this isn't fair.

689
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<v Speaker 2>Where are we dominating in sports? Right? You have access

690
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<v Speaker 2>to data if you want it. You have access to facts, sir,

691
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<v Speaker 2>if you cared about facts instead of trying to lick

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's dick o. The exchange comes amo a broader debate

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<v Speaker 2>within democratic politics about how the party should talk about

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<v Speaker 2>LGBTQ plus issues in a violatle political environment. Last August,

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<v Speaker 2>a centrist Democrat consulting group advised candidates to avoid certain

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<v Speaker 2>terms commonly used in LGBTQ plus advocacy, including lgbtqia and

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<v Speaker 2>this gender, arguing that the language can soundating to come voters. Well,

698
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<v Speaker 2>fuck them, fucking Christ, we are not going to have

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<v Speaker 2>a country.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're concerned about the fiefees of every single fucking individual,

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<v Speaker 3>then just throw the whole thing away.

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<v Speaker 2>Pay attention to the full throated politicians who are giving

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<v Speaker 2>us full throaded support. They're primary out the Democrats who

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<v Speaker 2>are middle of the road like this, they are they're

705
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<v Speaker 2>getting primaried away. And mom, Donnie went from the bottom

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<v Speaker 2>of the heap to the from the mayor of the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest and he had gorgeous commercials talking about our history

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<v Speaker 2>in New York City and how it had to be

709
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<v Speaker 2>preserved and protected. It's not a winning strategy, people, You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I and I'm actually a Facebook friend had made a

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<v Speaker 2>comment about what did she say? I something about if

712
00:46:57.760 --> 00:46:59.960
<v Speaker 2>the election were tomorrow, would be ours to lose, honest,

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<v Speaker 2>But my faith in the unwavering dedication that Democrats have

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<v Speaker 2>to snatching defeat from the jaws of victory remains strong.

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<v Speaker 2>I am so sick of this unhelpful armchair quarterback narrative.

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<v Speaker 2>What exactly is your solution then, right, you know, what

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<v Speaker 2>is your Please to tell me, Please to tell me,

718
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<v Speaker 2>because this has you know, it's a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>complicated than that, and I'm just so sick of that narrative.

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<v Speaker 2>And we are seeing unambiguous progressives winning yep. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and that that talk right now is just unhelpful. Thank you, period,

722
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<v Speaker 2>It's unhelpful, and you know, it sickens me more. During

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<v Speaker 2>the interview, the governor argued that acknowledging difficult policy debates

724
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<v Speaker 2>does not undermine broader commitment to equality. That's the one

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<v Speaker 2>area I disagree, he said, of competitive sports. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>not throwing the community under the bus. It feels like

727
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<v Speaker 2>it because it's all based on lies. There are ways

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<v Speaker 2>for us to be And here's the thing. If you

729
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<v Speaker 2>would shut the fuck up about the puberty blockers, right, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>we never have a presumed advantage because people would go

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<v Speaker 2>through the right puberty right to mention their gender. Like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm sorry, but it's like the argument is

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<v Speaker 2>they want us dead, Gavin, that's the real fucking argument.

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<v Speaker 2>You're picking up a piece of the ship that they're

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<v Speaker 2>throwing and saying, well, this one looks kind of pretty though.

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<v Speaker 3>It's got a nice little green streak, and it look

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<v Speaker 3>at the way it catch on the light.

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<v Speaker 2>My god. Yeah, like, I'm sorry, but you know it's

739
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<v Speaker 2>And he gets on the podcast with the dude bros.

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<v Speaker 2>And he can't help himself, right, he cannot help himself.

741
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<v Speaker 3>He wants to be a cool kid. Yeah, that's the

742
00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:56.760
<v Speaker 3>problem with these motherfuckers they have, right, they were never

743
00:48:56.800 --> 00:48:59.079
<v Speaker 3>the cool kid growing up, so now they have a

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<v Speaker 3>chance to like have access to people and they try

745
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<v Speaker 3>to be one of them. Not realize how empty the

746
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<v Speaker 3>cool kids were, right, slash are.

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<v Speaker 2>The conversation also briefly touched on Newsom's public image. Quorik

748
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<v Speaker 2>noted that critics sometimes describe the well dressed, quick talking

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<v Speaker 2>politician as slick. I believe I did at least once yep,

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<v Speaker 2>a label often used by opponents who argue that his

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<v Speaker 2>political positions evolve with shifting public opinion yep. He brushed

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<v Speaker 2>off the characterization, of course, you don't have to like me,

753
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<v Speaker 2>or maybe you like a slick person. I don't know whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>It's okay. There is nothing wrong with evolving a position

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<v Speaker 2>because the facts warrant it, right, But yeah, voting in

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<v Speaker 2>favor of us and then throwing us under a bus

757
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<v Speaker 2>on this issue is not looking at Show me the data,

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<v Speaker 2>Show me where this unfairness is taking place. Show me

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<v Speaker 2>the sport where we're dominating. Please, right, that would justify

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<v Speaker 2>you being such an asshole. Show us you know, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I just got a feeling and that's all he's got,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's all all of this is. As we lose

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<v Speaker 2>our rights left, right and sideways, and you know, my

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<v Speaker 2>people can't figure out where the fuck to live in

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<v Speaker 2>this country, you know. But okay, Gavin, try talking out

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<v Speaker 2>of both sides of your mouth. You won't be president

767
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<v Speaker 2>Gavin that way.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, Gavin Newsom gives me remember that, like it was

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<v Speaker 3>a trope in television and movies for a while, Like

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<v Speaker 3>you have. Like you're at the movie studio and all

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<v Speaker 3>the people are sitting in the room trying to decide

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<v Speaker 3>on a look or something and one person goes, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>thinking like a green wall, and the assistant goes, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I love green. Green is my favorite color. Should go

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<v Speaker 3>with green? The director goes, I hate green. I hate

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<v Speaker 3>it too, Get it out of here. That's Gavin newsom.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm mm hmmm. I'm picturing the song from Best

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<v Speaker 2>Little Worehouse in Texas. Do a little side step. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm picturing. Because he wants the boys to

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<v Speaker 2>like him or something or something I don't know. Thank you, Katie, right,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you. I appreciate it. I've actually got a little

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<v Speaker 2>more good news. I like that. Another segment I'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to introduce, and you know, some some juicy stuff. So

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<v Speaker 2>why don't we take a break again. We will be

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<v Speaker 2>right back. Okay, and we're back.

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<v Speaker 3>We're back.

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<v Speaker 2>So James tall Rico is the Democratic Senate Kennedy in

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<v Speaker 2>Texas who did edge out Oh Jasmine Crockett, right, so

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<v Speaker 2>not Jasmine Crockett. And he stands by his defense of

790
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<v Speaker 2>trans youth and says, let's focus on the real problem.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing the media wants to ask me about

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<v Speaker 2>are trans athletes, he said during a March night interview

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<v Speaker 2>on ms NOW formerly known as MSNBC. He remarked that

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<v Speaker 2>although he's had a lot of interviews with national media

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<v Speaker 2>since winning the primary, he hasn't been asked about issues

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<v Speaker 2>like the cost of housing and the cost of prescription drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing the media wants to ask me about

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<v Speaker 2>our trans athletes, he said, And this is part of

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<v Speaker 2>the problem for sure. Uh huh. What I would say

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<v Speaker 2>is that the only minority destroying this country is the billionaires.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for you, Okay, thank you. Yeah, we are worried

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<v Speaker 2>about the wrong one percent. Thank you. We better figure

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<v Speaker 2>it out while we still have something left, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Tall Rico added, the common right wing scapegoats, such as

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<v Speaker 2>trans people and undocumented people each make up roughly one

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the United States population. We are all focused

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<v Speaker 2>on the wrong one percent. Oh there you go, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Trans people aren't taking away our healthcare, Undocumented people aren't

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<v Speaker 2>defunding our schools. It's the billionaires and their puppet politicians.

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<v Speaker 2>God bless this man, and so we need not only

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<v Speaker 2>the media but all of us to focus on the

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<v Speaker 2>real problem at hand. Good God. I hope Texas is

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<v Speaker 2>smart this time around, but I have my doubts.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I actually think I might forgive him for beating mcgirl.

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<v Speaker 2>I spent a lot of time listening to Mallya Ivans

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<v Speaker 2>and her long suffering as a Texan. This isn't the

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<v Speaker 2>first time l Rico has been outspoken in support of

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<v Speaker 2>our community. In twenty twenty three, a TikTok video of

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<v Speaker 2>him speaking out against a Republican bill attempting to require

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<v Speaker 2>Texas public schools to display the Ten Commandments went viral.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that was him, Yes, quote, Why is having a

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<v Speaker 2>rainbow in a classroom in doctrination and not having the

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<v Speaker 2>Ten Commandments in a classroom? Well, he said every time

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<v Speaker 2>on this committee that we try to teach students values

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<v Speaker 2>like empathy and kindness. We're told we can't because that's

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<v Speaker 2>the parent's role. But now you're putting religious commandments, literal

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<v Speaker 2>commandments in our classroom, and you're saying that's the state's role.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is that not the parent's role? Good question. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I do. I do like him. I do.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm starting to like him too. In a few weeks,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll completely possibly have forgiven him.

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<v Speaker 2>Following Trump's reelection, multiple Democratic members of Congress, like New

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<v Speaker 2>York Rep. Tom Swosey and Massachusetts Rep. Seth Moulton, claimed

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<v Speaker 2>that in order to rebuild political power, their party must

835
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<v Speaker 2>become more conservative on trans issues. As Swosey put it,

836
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<v Speaker 2>stop pandering to the far left fuck you by supporting

837
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<v Speaker 2>basic trans rights, particularly trans inclusive school sports. More recently,

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<v Speaker 2>a wave of new Democratic candidates have refused to throw

839
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<v Speaker 2>trans people under the bus thank you people, in hopes

840
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<v Speaker 2>of scoring points with voters. Last year, New York City

841
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<v Speaker 2>mayor Johan mom Donnie pledged to spend sixty five million

842
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<v Speaker 2>dollars on trans healthcare as part of his mayoral campaign

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<v Speaker 2>any One, Yep Yeah. During an appearance on Slate's Sex

844
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<v Speaker 2>and Money podcast earlier this week, Maine Democratic Senate candidate

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<v Speaker 2>Graham Platner argued that Republican attacks on trans rights are

846
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<v Speaker 2>an invented culture war scare meant to sow division in

847
00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:10.960
<v Speaker 2>his home state. Exactly. I think there are like two

848
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<v Speaker 2>trans kids that compete in high school sports in Maine,

849
00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:16.760
<v Speaker 2>in all of Maine. In all of Maine, there are

850
00:56:16.960 --> 00:56:21.559
<v Speaker 2>forty thousand maners who are going to lose healthcare because

851
00:56:21.599 --> 00:56:24.719
<v Speaker 2>of the lack of the Affordable Care Act extension. One

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<v Speaker 2>of those things seems very important and real to me.

853
00:56:28.440 --> 00:56:32.239
<v Speaker 2>One of them seems like an invented culture war scare

854
00:56:32.519 --> 00:56:38.840
<v Speaker 2>to keep people divided. A fucking men, Well, thank you,

855
00:56:38.920 --> 00:56:43.519
<v Speaker 2>tell Rico. This is I just want clarity unambiguous. You know,

856
00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:47.320
<v Speaker 2>trans people were not hurting you before. Nope, And there

857
00:56:47.400 --> 00:56:51.039
<v Speaker 2>is no reason to throw us under this bus that

858
00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:54.960
<v Speaker 2>the fucking conservatives created in the first goddamn place. Right,

859
00:56:55.599 --> 00:56:57.800
<v Speaker 2>this is the part I can't stand. And every time

860
00:56:57.840 --> 00:57:01.840
<v Speaker 2>I do get a microphone, I mention it as you should. Yeah.

861
00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:08.159
<v Speaker 2>The people that bother me the most, the most are

862
00:57:08.199 --> 00:57:12.480
<v Speaker 2>the ones who say they're my ally, except they kind

863
00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:15.079
<v Speaker 2>of got a point. W No they don't, No, they don't.

864
00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:18.199
<v Speaker 2>And they'll take that as a win, every little bit

865
00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:23.079
<v Speaker 2>of my human rights that you're willing to erode, because

866
00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:25.960
<v Speaker 2>well that kind of makes sense. Uh huh. Yeah, that's

867
00:57:25.960 --> 00:57:28.920
<v Speaker 2>a win in their column, and it gets you what

868
00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:39.480
<v Speaker 2>nothing exactly. Once again, the European Union provides a road

869
00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:44.880
<v Speaker 2>map of hope. Right. The EU Court ruled trans citizens

870
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:51.559
<v Speaker 2>must receive IDs reflecting their lived gender. Must must The

871
00:57:51.559 --> 00:57:54.679
<v Speaker 2>European Court of Justice ruled that a U member states

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00:57:54.880 --> 00:58:00.639
<v Speaker 2>must allow transgender citizens to update official identification docum to

873
00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:06.760
<v Speaker 2>reflect their lived gender. Yeah, that's that's that's basically it

874
00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:11.000
<v Speaker 2>truly that like, that's that's the crux of it. Good,

875
00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:15.480
<v Speaker 2>this shouldn't be a question. That's how it is. In

876
00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:19.639
<v Speaker 2>New Jersey. Right, cal You know, California has made it easier.

877
00:58:19.639 --> 00:58:23.679
<v Speaker 2>Pennsylvania's working on it. This shouldn't be a problem. It

878
00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:26.519
<v Speaker 2>really shouldn't. But you know, they they they want us

879
00:58:26.559 --> 00:58:29.519
<v Speaker 2>degrade it onto death, so of course they keep making

880
00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:38.440
<v Speaker 2>issues the European Union, however, Right says, yeah, must reflecting

881
00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:44.119
<v Speaker 2>our lived gender. Good on them. Yeah, So I had

882
00:58:44.159 --> 00:58:47.280
<v Speaker 2>a few articles. I just wasn't sure where to put

883
00:58:47.320 --> 00:58:54.199
<v Speaker 2>them right because they I can't call them good news.

884
00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:58.360
<v Speaker 2>I can't really call them nonsense. So what I do

885
00:58:58.400 --> 00:59:01.440
<v Speaker 2>call them is water as well. So I think that

886
00:59:01.519 --> 00:59:03.840
<v Speaker 2>might become a new segment depending on what's out there.

887
00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:08.800
<v Speaker 2>But you'll see where I'm going with the first one.

888
00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:16.920
<v Speaker 2>This from Playboy magazine. I'm serious, trans porn is booming. Yeah,

889
00:59:17.119 --> 00:59:22.719
<v Speaker 2>trans writes are fading. We asked trans models and creators

890
00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:28.239
<v Speaker 2>about the complicated link between desire and politics. This from

891
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<v Speaker 2>the March fifth issue. There's a particular kind of cognitive

892
00:59:32.079 --> 00:59:36.199
<v Speaker 2>dissonance involved while being trans and visible online. In twenty

893
00:59:36.239 --> 00:59:40.920
<v Speaker 2>twenty six, Trans content creators have become more visible online

894
00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:45.079
<v Speaker 2>in recent years, though brand deals have steadily dropped off

895
00:59:45.239 --> 00:59:49.920
<v Speaker 2>for transcreators since twenty twenty three. Spicy creators are seeing

896
00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:54.320
<v Speaker 2>a boon. According to porn Hub's twenty twenty five Year

897
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<v Speaker 2>in Review, transgender porn was the second most viewed category

898
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<v Speaker 2>of the year, up five spots from the previous year.

899
01:00:04.679 --> 01:00:06.559
<v Speaker 3>Yead damn wait's number one.

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<v Speaker 2>For some trans content creators, this isn't really a surprise.

901
01:00:11.360 --> 01:00:15.119
<v Speaker 2>Trans people are hot and have always been desired. The

902
01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:20.239
<v Speaker 2>political noise around their existence, they say, is just manufactured bullshit,

903
01:00:20.239 --> 01:00:22.519
<v Speaker 2>which is true. Yep. I just love that this is

904
01:00:22.639 --> 01:00:27.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, in Playboy magazine. Nothing the political climate is

905
01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:30.519
<v Speaker 2>or does will affect that people will find me attractive,

906
01:00:30.840 --> 01:00:33.639
<v Speaker 2>and whether I'm trans or not doesn't have a ton

907
01:00:33.679 --> 01:00:37.599
<v Speaker 2>to do with people's attractions, said Bloody, a content creator

908
01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:41.199
<v Speaker 2>who operates both in the safer work gaming space and

909
01:00:41.400 --> 01:00:47.000
<v Speaker 2>on the spicier, paywalled side of OnlyFans. For her, experiencing

910
01:00:47.079 --> 01:00:51.480
<v Speaker 2>desire online is both gender affirming and simply hot. So

911
01:00:51.639 --> 01:00:54.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, a lot of these creators are hiring other

912
01:00:54.039 --> 01:00:57.599
<v Speaker 2>trans people to make their content. They've got online communities

913
01:00:57.639 --> 01:00:59.760
<v Speaker 2>where they are raising money for causes. It's not all

914
01:00:59.840 --> 01:01:02.920
<v Speaker 2>just porn, right, you know, porn with a purpose. But

915
01:01:03.239 --> 01:01:06.320
<v Speaker 2>we've been seeing the numbers. I thought this had a

916
01:01:06.400 --> 01:01:08.880
<v Speaker 2>chart to it. It doesn't, but you know you can

917
01:01:08.920 --> 01:01:11.880
<v Speaker 2>imagine the chart the red or of the state, the

918
01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:15.119
<v Speaker 2>harsher the laws, the more they love their transport.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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01:01:15.880 --> 01:01:17.920
<v Speaker 2>I found out with the number one spot was what

921
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<v Speaker 2>and tie? Really huh that's the coming cartoons, right, Yeah, yes,

922
01:01:25.400 --> 01:01:30.199
<v Speaker 2>that's how they thought. Yeah. So I just I loved

923
01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:33.000
<v Speaker 2>that the article was in Playboy because it does, you know,

924
01:01:33.079 --> 01:01:36.639
<v Speaker 2>speak unambiguously about you know, the bullshit that we're facing, right,

925
01:01:36.920 --> 01:01:41.320
<v Speaker 2>and it also talks, you know to the content creators themselves,

926
01:01:41.480 --> 01:01:43.440
<v Speaker 2>so you know, it is a profile as they are

927
01:01:43.440 --> 01:01:49.199
<v Speaker 2>wont to do. And again it just made you know,

928
01:01:49.280 --> 01:01:56.239
<v Speaker 2>big mainstream article transport is booming water. That's right. The

929
01:01:56.280 --> 01:02:01.920
<v Speaker 2>next one. Again, I stuck in this category because predictable,

930
01:02:02.880 --> 01:02:08.719
<v Speaker 2>so fucking predictable trans healthcare band forces cis special needs

931
01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:15.039
<v Speaker 2>child to flee the state to obtain critical harmon care.

932
01:02:15.440 --> 01:02:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh. Yeah. It turns out gender firming care bands

933
01:02:20.039 --> 01:02:22.119
<v Speaker 2>hurt SIS kids too.

934
01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:24.440
<v Speaker 3>They're literally fucking it up for everyone.

935
01:02:25.039 --> 01:02:29.079
<v Speaker 2>H This is about a Texas family and their struggle

936
01:02:29.119 --> 01:02:32.760
<v Speaker 2>to obtain medical care for their special needs child. It

937
01:02:32.840 --> 01:02:37.760
<v Speaker 2>is exemplifying the way anti translaws can hurt everybody, not

938
01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:40.880
<v Speaker 2>just those who identify as something other than the sex

939
01:02:40.880 --> 01:02:44.360
<v Speaker 2>assigned at birth. This person, who has lived in Apasso

940
01:02:44.639 --> 01:02:48.039
<v Speaker 2>their whole lives, being forced to move to New Mexico

941
01:02:48.920 --> 01:02:52.239
<v Speaker 2>because her seven year old daughter, Freya can more easily

942
01:02:52.280 --> 01:02:57.079
<v Speaker 2>receive the puberty blockers she needs to treat the syndrome

943
01:02:57.159 --> 01:03:00.360
<v Speaker 2>she has, which is a genetic disorder that is caused

944
01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:03.280
<v Speaker 2>her to enter precocious puberty.

945
01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:06.840
<v Speaker 3>Which is what puberty blockers were is originally designed for.

946
01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:09.360
<v Speaker 2>Right, But you know in Texas you can't get them,

947
01:03:09.440 --> 01:03:13.079
<v Speaker 2>can't get them, and because if they only if they

948
01:03:14.599 --> 01:03:17.559
<v Speaker 2>I believe where they do it, and they only affect

949
01:03:17.599 --> 01:03:21.760
<v Speaker 2>trans kids, but they make them available, that is discriminatory. Right,

950
01:03:21.960 --> 01:03:26.840
<v Speaker 2>So then when they said, well nobody can get them.

951
01:03:25.360 --> 01:03:27.000
<v Speaker 3>At least they're not being discriminatory.

952
01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Now you're sending little girls into puberty at eight years old.

953
01:03:29.760 --> 01:03:31.039
<v Speaker 2>Are you proud of yourselves?

954
01:03:31.199 --> 01:03:33.920
<v Speaker 3>You went from being discriminatory to being tyrannical.

955
01:03:34.119 --> 01:03:39.760
<v Speaker 2>That's not better. Her daughter's pediatric endocrinologist, the only person

956
01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:44.639
<v Speaker 2>providing youth hormone care and olive El Paso stopped prescribing

957
01:03:44.679 --> 01:03:49.840
<v Speaker 2>puberty blockers after being sued by anti trans Attorney General

958
01:03:50.119 --> 01:03:55.760
<v Speaker 2>Ken Paxton that motherfucker for allegedly violating the state's gender

959
01:03:55.800 --> 01:04:01.159
<v Speaker 2>affirming care ban Uh huh. The doctor handed an injunction

960
01:04:01.679 --> 01:04:06.800
<v Speaker 2>banning him from prescribing the blockers to transuth or from

961
01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:11.920
<v Speaker 2>providing false diagnoses such as precocious puberty, so that his

962
01:04:12.039 --> 01:04:16.719
<v Speaker 2>parents could continue their care. The situation resulted in him

963
01:04:16.760 --> 01:04:20.159
<v Speaker 2>stopping prescribing puberty blockers altogether, which is what they want,

964
01:04:20.519 --> 01:04:23.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, and they and they expect that. Ken Paxton,

965
01:04:24.079 --> 01:04:27.440
<v Speaker 2>this is I want there to be a hell just so,

966
01:04:28.199 --> 01:04:31.639
<v Speaker 2>Greg Abbott and Ken Paxton, I don't know, are butt

967
01:04:31.679 --> 01:04:35.559
<v Speaker 2>fucked by a building for all of eternity dry? Like

968
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<v Speaker 2>I just I you know, how do how do you

969
01:04:40.159 --> 01:04:44.360
<v Speaker 2>pay for pure evil, pure fucking evil?

970
01:04:44.559 --> 01:04:49.280
<v Speaker 3>Not a building, and not even one of those skinny

971
01:04:49.320 --> 01:04:51.519
<v Speaker 3>cylindrical buildings either, No, a.

972
01:04:51.440 --> 01:04:59.199
<v Speaker 2>Big squatty one and there'd still be an echo. Oh shit.

973
01:05:00.039 --> 01:05:03.880
<v Speaker 2>Case against the doctor was ultimately dismissed, but the parent

974
01:05:03.960 --> 01:05:07.159
<v Speaker 2>still does not even know if he has resumed prescribing

975
01:05:07.199 --> 01:05:11.119
<v Speaker 2>pubity blockers or not. She had already left his care

976
01:05:11.320 --> 01:05:13.800
<v Speaker 2>due to the long wait times at his office, spurred

977
01:05:13.800 --> 01:05:18.000
<v Speaker 2>by the lack of pediatric endocrinologists in the area. Yeah, well,

978
01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:20.960
<v Speaker 2>why would you work there. You don't have any work anymore.

979
01:05:21.320 --> 01:05:24.880
<v Speaker 2>And this is an attorney general, not a doctor, telling

980
01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:28.480
<v Speaker 2>doctors they can't doctor, right, which is what's been going on.

981
01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:30.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, we're beating a dead horse here,

982
01:05:30.599 --> 01:05:35.360
<v Speaker 2>but anyway, that's why this is water is wet. I

983
01:05:35.360 --> 01:05:38.519
<v Speaker 2>think the passage, as well as the enforcement of the

984
01:05:38.599 --> 01:05:41.639
<v Speaker 2>gender affirm and Caravan, is likely making it harder to

985
01:05:41.679 --> 01:05:47.440
<v Speaker 2>attract pediatric endocrinologists to the region. Of course, his attorney

986
01:05:47.440 --> 01:05:51.519
<v Speaker 2>told the Tribune, We've made a lot of headway and

987
01:05:51.639 --> 01:05:55.679
<v Speaker 2>improvement attracting more specialists and more doctors, but there's a

988
01:05:55.719 --> 01:05:59.039
<v Speaker 2>long way to go. Who's going to practice in Texas?

989
01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:03.519
<v Speaker 2>You know, the parents said, I love Texas, but right

990
01:06:03.519 --> 01:06:06.719
<v Speaker 2>now it doesn't feel like they love us back. When

991
01:06:06.760 --> 01:06:10.000
<v Speaker 2>you have a child with special needs, gray areas are

992
01:06:10.320 --> 01:06:14.079
<v Speaker 2>not your friend because your entire life is a gray area.

993
01:06:14.559 --> 01:06:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Having something I can rely on is extremely paramount to

994
01:06:17.719 --> 01:06:20.719
<v Speaker 2>her care. And if her doctors are too scared to

995
01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:23.679
<v Speaker 2>do their job, what the heck am I supposed to do?

996
01:06:24.559 --> 01:06:27.880
<v Speaker 2>The lack of pediatric endochronologists in the area has also

997
01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:32.320
<v Speaker 2>resulted in Freya's struggling to obtain another critical medication that

998
01:06:32.360 --> 01:06:36.800
<v Speaker 2>helps control her overactive appetite caused by her disorder. Without

999
01:06:36.880 --> 01:06:41.599
<v Speaker 2>the medication in sivery, the consequences can be incredibly deadly,

1000
01:06:41.800 --> 01:06:45.960
<v Speaker 2>causing issues with Freya's kidneys. We can't get the care

1001
01:06:46.039 --> 01:06:49.239
<v Speaker 2>she needs because all the end of chronologists are scared

1002
01:06:49.599 --> 01:06:52.199
<v Speaker 2>to do their jobs. This is the you know, the

1003
01:06:52.320 --> 01:06:58.480
<v Speaker 2>environment that these jackals have created. Yeah, to what end?

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01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:00.679
<v Speaker 2>You know, you gotta see it and look at it

1005
01:07:00.679 --> 01:07:06.559
<v Speaker 2>and go why why? Good question? But yeah, I mean

1006
01:07:06.719 --> 01:07:10.159
<v Speaker 2>more and more SIS people are going to pay the

1007
01:07:10.199 --> 01:07:18.599
<v Speaker 2>price to there, because pediatric endochronologists don't just treat trans kids, right,

1008
01:07:19.599 --> 01:07:23.679
<v Speaker 2>But you know it's like why would you set up

1009
01:07:23.679 --> 01:07:26.400
<v Speaker 2>in Texas and why would you stay in Texas if

1010
01:07:27.639 --> 01:07:32.159
<v Speaker 2>they're working against you? Right like that? So you're going

1011
01:07:32.239 --> 01:07:34.079
<v Speaker 2>to see more and more of that. We're already seeing

1012
01:07:34.079 --> 01:07:37.039
<v Speaker 2>it with these stupid bathroom bands. And you know, people

1013
01:07:37.079 --> 01:07:39.880
<v Speaker 2>get it wrong all the time because they think they

1014
01:07:39.920 --> 01:07:42.280
<v Speaker 2>know what they're looking at and they don't, and they're

1015
01:07:42.280 --> 01:07:46.800
<v Speaker 2>harassing SIS people. Yeah, all the time it's happening.

1016
01:07:46.840 --> 01:07:48.679
<v Speaker 3>All you had to do was just mind you're fucking this.

1017
01:07:49.000 --> 01:07:52.440
<v Speaker 2>You were bolding the ignorant here And to what end?

1018
01:07:52.559 --> 01:07:58.440
<v Speaker 2>We and one more, one more A story about CIS

1019
01:07:58.440 --> 01:08:03.679
<v Speaker 2>men getting breast reduction went viral, with everyone making the

1020
01:08:03.719 --> 01:08:07.199
<v Speaker 2>same point. An article about SIS men getting breast reduction surgery.

1021
01:08:07.800 --> 01:08:13.079
<v Speaker 2>Anti transpundents have continually raised their voices against gender affirming treatments,

1022
01:08:13.639 --> 01:08:17.960
<v Speaker 2>despite the fact that studies have shown that their scant

1023
01:08:18.119 --> 01:08:22.159
<v Speaker 2>evidence reporting that trans people regret their gender identity care

1024
01:08:22.840 --> 01:08:27.640
<v Speaker 2>or gender affirming care, including top surgery. In fact, top

1025
01:08:27.680 --> 01:08:31.119
<v Speaker 2>surgery has been found to dramatically improve the lives of

1026
01:08:31.159 --> 01:08:35.880
<v Speaker 2>trans people according to his study, and even heterosexual men

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01:08:35.960 --> 01:08:39.920
<v Speaker 2>are undergoing the procedure to improve their mental well being.

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<v Speaker 2>An article published by The New York Post had shared

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01:08:44.600 --> 01:08:49.880
<v Speaker 2>the experience of CIS men had breast reduction surgery essentially

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01:08:50.199 --> 01:08:53.479
<v Speaker 2>in a bid to feel their best. It changed my life.

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01:08:54.000 --> 01:08:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Brian Lewis Gonzalez, who underwent the surgery, told the publication,

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<v Speaker 2>I had to get used to walking with my chest

1033
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<v Speaker 2>out and having confidence before I felt like I was

1034
01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:05.479
<v Speaker 2>carrying around a big bag of rocks. That's what my

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<v Speaker 2>guynomastia was like. It is an increase in the amount

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<v Speaker 2>of breast gland tissues in boys or men. It impacts

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01:09:12.960 --> 01:09:19.039
<v Speaker 2>half of all men at some point in their lives. Right, yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Since twenty twenty, there has been a steep increase in

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<v Speaker 2>men going ahead with this what is it gender affirming surgery? Yep. Yeah.

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01:09:30.359 --> 01:09:35.920
<v Speaker 2>And by the way, the vast, vast majority of any

1041
01:09:35.960 --> 01:09:41.319
<v Speaker 2>surgeries done on miners this exactly this yeah yeah on

1042
01:09:41.479 --> 01:09:45.439
<v Speaker 2>CIS boys. But on social media everyone is having the

1043
01:09:45.439 --> 01:09:48.960
<v Speaker 2>same reaction, pointing out that the surgery is literally the

1044
01:09:49.039 --> 01:09:53.359
<v Speaker 2>same as gender affirming top surgery, the exact procedure, so

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01:09:53.560 --> 01:09:58.880
<v Speaker 2>many right wingers oppose. One person reposted the article captioning

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01:09:58.920 --> 01:10:03.119
<v Speaker 2>it simply or firming top surgery. Yeah. The New York

1047
01:10:03.159 --> 01:10:06.119
<v Speaker 2>Post had posted, you know, meet them in getting breast reductions.

1048
01:10:06.399 --> 01:10:09.600
<v Speaker 2>It is now the most popular plastic surgery among guys

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01:10:09.680 --> 01:10:14.760
<v Speaker 2>in the United States. Another reader referenced the barriers trans

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01:10:14.760 --> 01:10:18.600
<v Speaker 2>people face and accessing the procedure, writing, I think we

1051
01:10:18.760 --> 01:10:22.800
<v Speaker 2>need to have long interviews where these guys have to

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01:10:22.920 --> 01:10:28.560
<v Speaker 2>explain that they are actually guys and have two psychologists

1053
01:10:28.760 --> 01:10:33.000
<v Speaker 2>agree to it, right, because we wouldn't want them doing

1054
01:10:33.039 --> 01:10:38.479
<v Speaker 2>anything irreversible they might regret, right, exactly. Did we check

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01:10:38.520 --> 01:10:42.239
<v Speaker 2>if they're autistic, because this is the kind of shit

1056
01:10:42.279 --> 01:10:44.479
<v Speaker 2>trans people get put through.

1057
01:10:45.159 --> 01:10:48.479
<v Speaker 3>All check if they're autistic?

1058
01:10:50.399 --> 01:10:55.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a thing. Yeah. Anyway. Someone else parodied a

1059
01:10:55.279 --> 01:10:58.520
<v Speaker 2>common anti trans dog whistle, writing, so sad they were

1060
01:10:58.560 --> 01:11:04.359
<v Speaker 2>groomed into mutilating their bodies. I love my people, but

1061
01:11:04.439 --> 01:11:07.319
<v Speaker 2>when transmen do it, suddenly it's a big problem, another

1062
01:11:07.359 --> 01:11:11.720
<v Speaker 2>reader wrote, while someone else commented, Oh, so when CIS

1063
01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:15.640
<v Speaker 2>men are getting their breasts removed, it's just popular surgery

1064
01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:18.960
<v Speaker 2>among guys. But when transmen do it, it's suddenly a

1065
01:11:19.000 --> 01:11:23.239
<v Speaker 2>big problem. I love all the people that are you know,

1066
01:11:23.399 --> 01:11:31.279
<v Speaker 2>spoke up about the article. It's fun. Yeah. The comments

1067
01:11:31.479 --> 01:11:34.760
<v Speaker 2>rightly call out the hypocrisy of those opposed to gender

1068
01:11:34.920 --> 01:11:37.479
<v Speaker 2>firm and care, which has shown time and time again

1069
01:11:37.800 --> 01:11:42.479
<v Speaker 2>to have incredibly low regret rates. Uh huh, because why

1070
01:11:42.479 --> 01:11:47.479
<v Speaker 2>would it anyway? One more example of water is well

1071
01:11:49.840 --> 01:11:55.239
<v Speaker 2>you get it. Yes, moving on, It is time for

1072
01:11:55.920 --> 01:12:08.680
<v Speaker 2>the segment we like to call people taking pleasure. Yeah,

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01:12:09.039 --> 01:12:11.359
<v Speaker 2>I love this first one. Yeah.

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01:12:11.520 --> 01:12:15.119
<v Speaker 3>Athlete mocked for saying she's traumatized from rooming with someone

1075
01:12:15.439 --> 01:12:18.479
<v Speaker 3>she later found out was trans.

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01:12:18.319 --> 01:12:22.119
<v Speaker 2>Exactly after the fact, after the fact, she's traumatized in

1077
01:12:22.199 --> 01:12:27.720
<v Speaker 2>the past. Retroactive, Yes, a retroactive trauma.

1078
01:12:28.399 --> 01:12:34.680
<v Speaker 3>Former San Jose State University remember right, volleyball player Brooks.

1079
01:12:34.720 --> 01:12:39.760
<v Speaker 3>Slusser is being mocked what a Slusser on social media

1080
01:12:40.319 --> 01:12:43.239
<v Speaker 3>for a video in which she discusses the apparent trauma

1081
01:12:43.359 --> 01:12:46.199
<v Speaker 3>she endured from being friends and roommates with a teammate

1082
01:12:46.640 --> 01:12:52.079
<v Speaker 3>who she didn't know was transgender. Slusser has been embroiled

1083
01:12:52.119 --> 01:12:56.159
<v Speaker 3>in legal drama for years over the alleged transgender teammate,

1084
01:12:56.880 --> 01:13:01.199
<v Speaker 3>whom she called to be kicked off the team. Slusser

1085
01:13:01.199 --> 01:13:05.359
<v Speaker 3>has also made several appearances on Fox News Shaker, during

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01:13:05.399 --> 01:13:07.640
<v Speaker 3>which she misgendered her teammate.

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01:13:07.920 --> 01:13:12.880
<v Speaker 2>She wants to be Riley Games I guess retroactor.

1088
01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:18.359
<v Speaker 3>Losing is the new winning, apparently. In a recent Fox

1089
01:13:18.479 --> 01:13:21.720
<v Speaker 3>Digital interview, Slusser spoke about sharing a bed with the

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01:13:21.760 --> 01:13:24.640
<v Speaker 3>other student at some point and how uncomfortable it was

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01:13:24.680 --> 01:13:26.920
<v Speaker 3>to later discover she had done so.

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01:13:27.079 --> 01:13:31.319
<v Speaker 2>Quote with a man native exactly.

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01:13:32.479 --> 01:13:36.119
<v Speaker 3>This is just absolutely absurd. It's hard to process. I

1094
01:13:36.119 --> 01:13:38.800
<v Speaker 3>don't even know if I can say I fully processed

1095
01:13:38.840 --> 01:13:42.960
<v Speaker 3>it to this day. Good God, she said, despite the

1096
01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:48.520
<v Speaker 3>fact that nothing had actually occurred during their interaction and gone.

1097
01:13:49.279 --> 01:13:52.680
<v Speaker 3>She claims she was quote lied to and would have

1098
01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:56.359
<v Speaker 3>changed everything about her actions in the apartment if she

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01:13:56.399 --> 01:14:00.159
<v Speaker 3>had known that she was living with a man.

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01:14:00.800 --> 01:14:04.119
<v Speaker 2>Has thought, I bet they do this. Bitch is mad

1101
01:14:04.239 --> 01:14:08.520
<v Speaker 2>because she became friends with a trans woman. Nothing bad happened,

1102
01:14:09.199 --> 01:14:12.560
<v Speaker 2>they were good friends. She just found out she was

1103
01:14:12.640 --> 01:14:16.800
<v Speaker 2>trans and is now going on this disgusting grifter culture

1104
01:14:16.920 --> 01:14:22.560
<v Speaker 2>war bullshit, absolutely soulless, and I hope your God punishes

1105
01:14:22.720 --> 01:14:23.840
<v Speaker 2>you that part.

1106
01:14:25.079 --> 01:14:25.520
<v Speaker 3>All of that.

1107
01:14:26.760 --> 01:14:31.119
<v Speaker 2>Literally, nothing bad happened to her. The trans woman was

1108
01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:35.479
<v Speaker 2>her friend and is now being vilified for doing nothing. Yep,

1109
01:14:36.039 --> 01:14:40.039
<v Speaker 2>literally nothing happened to her. She had a positive experience,

1110
01:14:40.680 --> 01:14:43.920
<v Speaker 2>didn't even know one of her three flatmates was trans.

1111
01:14:44.520 --> 01:14:47.439
<v Speaker 2>Blames the counselor who suggested living there as one of

1112
01:14:47.479 --> 01:14:50.840
<v Speaker 2>the options for a good reason. The griffs are just

1113
01:14:50.920 --> 01:14:56.159
<v Speaker 2>getting worse and worse. Uh huh, it keeps going. So

1114
01:14:56.239 --> 01:14:59.319
<v Speaker 2>what I'm hearing here is they can't, in fact, always

1115
01:14:59.479 --> 01:15:03.439
<v Speaker 2>tell when someone is trans, and somehow that is also

1116
01:15:04.039 --> 01:15:09.239
<v Speaker 2>our fault. Uh huh Yeah. Really harrowing stuff. Wow, hard

1117
01:15:09.279 --> 01:15:13.920
<v Speaker 2>to believe she survived that Brooke found out one of

1118
01:15:13.920 --> 01:15:17.840
<v Speaker 2>her housemates was trans, despite not knowing and their friendship

1119
01:15:17.960 --> 01:15:23.199
<v Speaker 2>being no different than any other woman chatting, watching films,

1120
01:15:23.439 --> 01:15:28.199
<v Speaker 2>et cetera. Somehow this is damaging to her, so she's

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01:15:28.279 --> 01:15:30.399
<v Speaker 2>on the transphobe grift.

1122
01:15:30.800 --> 01:15:35.119
<v Speaker 3>You know what it's giving. It's giving soccer players who

1123
01:15:35.439 --> 01:15:38.640
<v Speaker 3>like they'll have literally no one around them, and they'll

1124
01:15:38.840 --> 01:15:41.680
<v Speaker 3>hit the ground and grab their ankle and scream and cry,

1125
01:15:41.760 --> 01:15:43.600
<v Speaker 3>my neck, my back, my neck in my back.

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01:15:43.600 --> 01:15:46.399
<v Speaker 2>That's what this sounds like. Uh huh. Anyone saying she

1127
01:15:46.439 --> 01:15:50.279
<v Speaker 2>didn't consent to this needs to understand that you people

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01:15:50.319 --> 01:15:55.079
<v Speaker 2>are not entitled to any information regarding anyone else's transness.

1129
01:15:55.439 --> 01:15:59.000
<v Speaker 2>It's simply none of your business. It never was, it

1130
01:15:59.039 --> 01:16:01.600
<v Speaker 2>never would have been right. You shared an apartment with

1131
01:16:01.640 --> 01:16:05.640
<v Speaker 2>someone who was only ever kind to you and had

1132
01:16:05.680 --> 01:16:09.560
<v Speaker 2>a good experience, but you changed your mind only because

1133
01:16:09.600 --> 01:16:12.399
<v Speaker 2>you learned she was trans. This is bigotry and I

1134
01:16:12.439 --> 01:16:15.039
<v Speaker 2>have zero sympathy. I have less than that. It goes

1135
01:16:15.079 --> 01:16:19.239
<v Speaker 2>on and on, and I love it. She is being

1136
01:16:19.640 --> 01:16:28.039
<v Speaker 2>openly mocked on Twitter x ex Twitter that, and I

1137
01:16:28.079 --> 01:16:32.079
<v Speaker 2>think it's fun. Fuck that bitch, as I fucked that bitch.

1138
01:16:34.319 --> 01:16:35.000
<v Speaker 2>What's next?

1139
01:16:37.119 --> 01:16:42.359
<v Speaker 3>Epstein's accountant just connected the scandal to Trump and the

1140
01:16:42.439 --> 01:16:44.279
<v Speaker 3>DOJ is screwed.

1141
01:16:44.880 --> 01:16:47.800
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh. T He like the headline right.

1142
01:16:47.840 --> 01:16:51.800
<v Speaker 3>This is from Queerity after sloppily removing a series of

1143
01:16:51.840 --> 01:16:54.840
<v Speaker 3>files related to a Trump accuser who was also an

1144
01:16:54.880 --> 01:16:59.199
<v Speaker 3>Epstein victim. The DOJ is trying its best to pretend

1145
01:16:59.239 --> 01:17:03.439
<v Speaker 3>that nothing's going on, but Epstein's accountant has another story

1146
01:17:03.479 --> 01:17:07.319
<v Speaker 3>to tell, and it's pretty damning for everyone involved.

1147
01:17:07.239 --> 01:17:08.319
<v Speaker 2>Which is a lot of people.

1148
01:17:08.359 --> 01:17:11.840
<v Speaker 3>As it turns out, when they say follow the money,

1149
01:17:11.880 --> 01:17:14.800
<v Speaker 3>they're not usually talking about the personal accountants of the

1150
01:17:14.880 --> 01:17:17.039
<v Speaker 3>rich and famous. But in the case of Epstein and

1151
01:17:17.079 --> 01:17:20.960
<v Speaker 3>his notorious relationships to all kinds of powerful people, one

1152
01:17:21.119 --> 01:17:24.800
<v Speaker 3>figure could be the key to the whole operation. Richard Khan,

1153
01:17:25.239 --> 01:17:28.640
<v Speaker 3>who was recently deposed as part of the broader Epstein investigation,

1154
01:17:28.760 --> 01:17:30.960
<v Speaker 3>and what he had to say was quite interesting to

1155
01:17:31.000 --> 01:17:33.079
<v Speaker 3>those of us who have been trying to pin down

1156
01:17:33.119 --> 01:17:36.319
<v Speaker 3>a timeline in regard to Trump's involvement in the case.

1157
01:17:37.199 --> 01:17:40.920
<v Speaker 3>According to Khan, at least one Trump accuser has received

1158
01:17:40.920 --> 01:17:46.039
<v Speaker 3>a payout from the part of Epstein's estate reserved for survivors.

1159
01:17:46.199 --> 01:17:48.039
<v Speaker 2>How about that? Virginia Rep.

1160
01:17:48.159 --> 01:17:53.880
<v Speaker 3>Suhas Subrahmanyam, who attended Khan's deposition, tweeted out the bombshell

1161
01:17:54.039 --> 01:17:56.840
<v Speaker 3>earlier this week, along with a list of names of

1162
01:17:56.960 --> 01:18:01.720
<v Speaker 3>high powered individuals who allegedly funded certain of Epstein's crimes.

1163
01:18:03.000 --> 01:18:05.880
<v Speaker 3>While we don't know yet which Trump accuser received the payout,

1164
01:18:05.920 --> 01:18:08.359
<v Speaker 3>the timeline could potentially match up with what we know

1165
01:18:08.439 --> 01:18:11.840
<v Speaker 3>about the victim who's been making the headlines recently. The

1166
01:18:11.880 --> 01:18:14.399
<v Speaker 3>same woman who came forward about being introduced to Trump

1167
01:18:14.439 --> 01:18:17.039
<v Speaker 3>by Epstein between nineteen eighty three and eighty five, when

1168
01:18:17.039 --> 01:18:21.279
<v Speaker 3>she was between thirteen and fifteen, received a large settlement

1169
01:18:21.279 --> 01:18:24.439
<v Speaker 3>from the Epstein estates sometime in twenty twenty one. And

1170
01:18:24.520 --> 01:18:27.760
<v Speaker 3>of course, nothing screams cover up like the DOJ mysteriously

1171
01:18:27.840 --> 01:18:30.760
<v Speaker 3>omitting the files related to this accuser and then re

1172
01:18:30.880 --> 01:18:36.239
<v Speaker 3>uploading them and then removing them again. And somehow there's

1173
01:18:36.239 --> 01:18:40.000
<v Speaker 3>an even weirder, gayer twist to all this. According to

1174
01:18:40.039 --> 01:18:46.720
<v Speaker 3>Epstein Transparency Act Oversight Leader Representative Robert Garcia, Kahn also

1175
01:18:46.880 --> 01:18:50.840
<v Speaker 3>helped facilitate a sham marriage between two women in the

1176
01:18:50.880 --> 01:18:56.279
<v Speaker 3>Epstein regime. Jeffrey Epstein's massive sex trafficking ring would not

1177
01:18:56.359 --> 01:18:59.359
<v Speaker 3>have been possible without the consistent payments and services of

1178
01:18:59.399 --> 01:19:02.640
<v Speaker 3>his long time accountant, Richard Kahan, Garcia wrote in a

1179
01:19:02.680 --> 01:19:06.920
<v Speaker 3>statement after the deposition yesterday. While Khan claims he was

1180
01:19:06.960 --> 01:19:09.600
<v Speaker 3>not aware of Epstein's crimes, he clearly knows the jig

1181
01:19:09.640 --> 01:19:12.079
<v Speaker 3>is up for him and he's not holding back. But

1182
01:19:12.239 --> 01:19:15.239
<v Speaker 3>even if he continues to connect the dots between Trump,

1183
01:19:15.279 --> 01:19:18.920
<v Speaker 3>Epstein and the sex trafficking ring the two allegedly benefited from,

1184
01:19:19.319 --> 01:19:22.960
<v Speaker 3>that still doesn't mean we're closer to seeing justice done.

1185
01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:24.640
<v Speaker 2>As usual.

1186
01:19:24.720 --> 01:19:27.439
<v Speaker 3>Trump and his DOJ goons are committed to denying every

1187
01:19:27.439 --> 01:19:30.720
<v Speaker 3>bombshell allegation stemming from the reopening of the case. But

1188
01:19:30.880 --> 01:19:34.159
<v Speaker 3>between Cohn's loose lips and the cadaver dogs heading out

1189
01:19:34.199 --> 01:19:37.039
<v Speaker 3>to Epstein's Zorro ranch and beyond, we might be inching

1190
01:19:37.079 --> 01:19:39.720
<v Speaker 3>toward a place where denial is no longer possible in

1191
01:19:39.760 --> 01:19:42.560
<v Speaker 3>the face of cold, hard evidence.

1192
01:19:44.319 --> 01:19:52.439
<v Speaker 2>Roosting. Okay, cluck, motherfucker, mm hmmm, oh oh, oh, this

1193
01:19:52.680 --> 01:19:55.359
<v Speaker 2>was fun. A man who said Trump should kill all

1194
01:19:55.439 --> 01:20:01.079
<v Speaker 2>trans people has been sentenced for anti trans crime. A

1195
01:20:01.079 --> 01:20:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Seattle man has been sentenced to seven years in prison

1196
01:20:05.039 --> 01:20:08.079
<v Speaker 2>for a violent hate crime attack against a transgender woman

1197
01:20:08.359 --> 01:20:12.720
<v Speaker 2>in the city's university district. He was convicted on Friday,

1198
01:20:12.760 --> 01:20:16.199
<v Speaker 2>the thirteenth of March of his second degree assault and

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01:20:16.640 --> 01:20:21.199
<v Speaker 2>committing a hate crime for attacking a transwoman. She encountered

1200
01:20:21.279 --> 01:20:23.840
<v Speaker 2>him in several other men while walking to a Seattle

1201
01:20:23.880 --> 01:20:29.199
<v Speaker 2>Mariner's opening day game. This dude shouted insults and called

1202
01:20:29.199 --> 01:20:31.439
<v Speaker 2>her a drag queen before punching her in the mouth

1203
01:20:31.680 --> 01:20:35.319
<v Speaker 2>when she attempted to record the harassment. Witnesses said multiple

1204
01:20:35.439 --> 01:20:42.560
<v Speaker 2>attackers then punched and kicked her while shouting anti transslurs goddamn. Yeah.

1205
01:20:42.560 --> 01:20:45.920
<v Speaker 2>She suffered broken teeth, facial injuries, and a brain bleed

1206
01:20:46.439 --> 01:20:52.079
<v Speaker 2>before escaping to a restaurant for help. Yeah. Juris determined, though,

1207
01:20:52.159 --> 01:20:55.039
<v Speaker 2>that the assault met Washington State's legal definition of a

1208
01:20:55.039 --> 01:20:59.720
<v Speaker 2>hate crime, concluding she was targeted because of her gender identity.

1209
01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:04.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean she was, Absolutely she was. But too often

1210
01:21:04.600 --> 01:21:07.960
<v Speaker 2>we see these you know them kind of get away

1211
01:21:09.199 --> 01:21:11.479
<v Speaker 2>or something. Dutas, on his way to prison, couldn't have

1212
01:21:11.520 --> 01:21:17.520
<v Speaker 2>happened to a nicer guy word yeah and apparently say.

1213
01:21:18.119 --> 01:21:22.239
<v Speaker 2>During sentencing in King County Superior Court, prosecutors also referenced

1214
01:21:22.239 --> 01:21:26.920
<v Speaker 2>a recorded jail call in which Carlo his name is said,

1215
01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:30.439
<v Speaker 2>if I didn't hate trans people before, I do now absolutely.

1216
01:21:30.479 --> 01:21:33.600
<v Speaker 2>I think that Donald Trump should kill them all, get

1217
01:21:33.640 --> 01:21:38.800
<v Speaker 2>them out of here. They're weird. Uh huh. This was

1218
01:21:38.960 --> 01:21:42.560
<v Speaker 2>not the only case tied to this jackass. In twenty

1219
01:21:42.600 --> 01:21:47.479
<v Speaker 2>twenty four, he punched a transgender fair ambassador working for

1220
01:21:47.680 --> 01:21:51.600
<v Speaker 2>Sound Transit after being asked to verify his fare at

1221
01:21:51.600 --> 01:21:56.159
<v Speaker 2>a station. A jury convicted him a fourth degree assault

1222
01:21:56.279 --> 01:21:58.960
<v Speaker 2>in that case, but did not reach a verdict on

1223
01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:03.199
<v Speaker 2>a hate crime charge. So this is his come up

1224
01:22:03.439 --> 01:22:08.720
<v Speaker 2>because he learned nothing. Then he appeared largely remorseless during

1225
01:22:08.800 --> 01:22:13.680
<v Speaker 2>sentencing proceedings as the judge imposed an eighty four month

1226
01:22:13.800 --> 01:22:20.720
<v Speaker 2>prison term for the attack. Good, good, yep, So he

1227
01:22:20.840 --> 01:22:24.560
<v Speaker 2>learned nothing from the last time. So here we go again.

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01:22:24.880 --> 01:22:28.159
<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't think any man with a head that

1229
01:22:28.279 --> 01:22:30.640
<v Speaker 3>small in a neck that big is capable of learning.

1230
01:22:31.479 --> 01:22:33.720
<v Speaker 2>You're probably right. He looks like a butt pluck.

1231
01:22:35.880 --> 01:22:37.760
<v Speaker 3>One of them novelty ones that you look at and go,

1232
01:22:37.840 --> 01:22:38.800
<v Speaker 3>what am I supposed to do with that?

1233
01:22:38.920 --> 01:22:45.720
<v Speaker 2>Use it as a doorstop? Right that? So? Nearly thirty

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01:22:45.840 --> 01:22:49.600
<v Speaker 2>judges on the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals have formally

1235
01:22:50.039 --> 01:22:55.039
<v Speaker 2>reprimanded a Trump appointed colleague who wrote that a transgender

1236
01:22:55.119 --> 01:23:02.680
<v Speaker 2>discrimination case was quote about swinging dick. Yes, I shit

1237
01:23:02.760 --> 01:23:07.680
<v Speaker 2>you not. Judge Lawrence Van Dyke wrote the lead descent

1238
01:23:08.039 --> 01:23:11.640
<v Speaker 2>in Olympus Spa v. Armstrong last week, in which the

1239
01:23:11.880 --> 01:23:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Christian owners of a Korean nude SPA in Washington State

1240
01:23:16.319 --> 01:23:20.079
<v Speaker 2>sought to overturn a twenty twenty five panel ruling that

1241
01:23:20.319 --> 01:23:24.159
<v Speaker 2>ordered the SPA to admit trans women. The full Ninth

1242
01:23:24.199 --> 01:23:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Circuit declined to rehear the case last Thursday, leaving in

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<v Speaker 2>place the panel's ruling that Washington's non discrimination laws prohibit

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01:23:34.199 --> 01:23:38.800
<v Speaker 2>the SPA from admitting only cis gender women. In his descent,

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<v Speaker 2>which largely argued that the state had violated the Olympus

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01:23:43.279 --> 01:23:48.079
<v Speaker 2>owner's religious liberties. God, I'm so tired of this, Van

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01:23:48.159 --> 01:23:53.479
<v Speaker 2>Dyke opined that this is a case about swinging dix.

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01:23:55.000 --> 01:23:58.560
<v Speaker 2>Van Dyke, apported by President Donald Trump in twenty twenty,

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01:23:58.840 --> 01:24:05.720
<v Speaker 2>rallied against quote woke regulators and complicit judges and claimed

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<v Speaker 2>that this women were visually assaulted by the presence of

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01:24:10.920 --> 01:24:14.640
<v Speaker 2>trans women without bottom surgery in the SPA. The judge

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<v Speaker 2>who repeatedly misgendered the trans woman who filed the initial

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01:24:19.199 --> 01:24:23.199
<v Speaker 2>complaint against Olympus SPAS policy in twenty twenty called her

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01:24:23.239 --> 01:24:28.239
<v Speaker 2>a man who identifies as female and accusing her of

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<v Speaker 2>waging a campaign to compel the admission of men at Olympus.

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<v Speaker 2>I coarsely but respectfully dissent from our Court's willingness to

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<v Speaker 2>leave this travesty in place, he concluded in response, this

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<v Speaker 2>is the good part. Twenty seven of the Ninth Circuit's

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<v Speaker 2>fifty one judges signed their names to another opinion rebuking

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<v Speaker 2>Vandyke's vulgar barroom talk, written by Judge m Margare McEwen,

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<v Speaker 2>who also penned last year's majority opinion. That language makes

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01:25:05.760 --> 01:25:10.000
<v Speaker 2>us sound like juveniles, not judges, and it undermines public

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<v Speaker 2>trust in the courts, she wrote, adding that Van Dyke's

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<v Speaker 2>opinion ignores ordinary principles of dignity and civility and demeans

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<v Speaker 2>this court. In a separate, longer rebuttal joined by six

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<v Speaker 2>other judges, McEwen also wrote that the dissent quote serves

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<v Speaker 2>at most to distract from what this case is about.

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<v Speaker 2>Regarding the dissenting opinion of Judge van Dyke, we are

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<v Speaker 2>better than this, another statement from Judges John Owens and

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<v Speaker 2>Daniel forrest Read. A spokesperson for the Ninth Circuit, said

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<v Speaker 2>that the court does not comment on opinions. In response

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<v Speaker 2>to Reuter's request last week, Yeah the owners, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>are represented by the Pacific Justice Institute Group. As far

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<v Speaker 2>as the Southern Powery Law Center, et cetera, et cetera,

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01:26:03.920 --> 01:26:07.079
<v Speaker 2>et cetera. Not the first time this jackass has courted

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01:26:07.119 --> 01:26:12.239
<v Speaker 2>the spotlight from the bench. He's an asshole. He's an asshole,

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01:26:13.039 --> 01:26:16.720
<v Speaker 2>and his fellow judges called him out publicly and in writing.

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01:26:18.439 --> 01:26:21.600
<v Speaker 2>I doubt that he cares right.

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<v Speaker 3>But God help me, I'm sitting here and all I

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01:26:25.159 --> 01:26:27.960
<v Speaker 3>can think about is I think he's just mad that

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01:26:28.640 --> 01:26:30.920
<v Speaker 3>his dick wouldn't swing if he was in a hula

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01:26:30.920 --> 01:26:32.479
<v Speaker 3>contest at noon in July.

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01:26:32.880 --> 01:26:35.560
<v Speaker 2>There you go, and that could have everything to do

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01:26:35.680 --> 01:26:35.880
<v Speaker 2>with it.

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01:26:37.000 --> 01:26:38.960
<v Speaker 3>At best, he can get a brisk jiggle.

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01:26:39.359 --> 01:26:43.039
<v Speaker 2>They are so much more fascinating. A brisk jiggle, A

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01:26:43.159 --> 01:26:53.720
<v Speaker 2>brisk jiggle, there we go. I like to see decency

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01:26:53.800 --> 01:26:57.520
<v Speaker 2>and decorum upheld in the court system. Me too, And

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01:26:57.560 --> 01:27:01.720
<v Speaker 2>I like to see these jackasses taken to ask publicly. Indeed,

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01:27:02.880 --> 01:27:06.600
<v Speaker 2>you're still having fun over a brisk jiggle A wow,

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01:27:08.720 --> 01:27:15.039
<v Speaker 2>because now that's a mental limit. But you have to

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01:27:15.079 --> 01:27:20.079
<v Speaker 2>really watch it closely because nothing's moving.

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01:27:21.399 --> 01:27:23.079
<v Speaker 3>No, it is look closer.

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01:27:25.479 --> 01:27:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Like jello wiggle.

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01:27:30.039 --> 01:27:33.079
<v Speaker 3>It's more like a mushroom popping up out of the

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01:27:33.199 --> 01:27:34.439
<v Speaker 3>grass at dawn.

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<v Speaker 2>The nervous mushroom sir, your mushroom.

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01:27:43.399 --> 01:27:56.239
<v Speaker 5>Looks upset, titles shaking.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my, oh shit, oh this has been your moment

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01:28:00.960 --> 01:28:13.119
<v Speaker 2>of people taking pleasure main o mine.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for that, even though I'm the one that did.

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<v Speaker 2>It, you are actually yeah, yeah, oh shit, mm hmmm.

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01:28:25.640 --> 01:28:29.880
<v Speaker 2>That brought me joy the story itself and right, yes,

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01:28:29.960 --> 01:28:33.680
<v Speaker 2>of course the rest of it was fun too. I

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01:28:33.840 --> 01:28:38.359
<v Speaker 2>have a fifteen minute fave this week? Do you? I do?

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01:28:39.520 --> 01:28:42.560
<v Speaker 2>I want to have a I want a fifteen minute

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01:28:42.560 --> 01:28:46.560
<v Speaker 2>fae because it's been in my head and I've been

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01:28:46.600 --> 01:28:51.279
<v Speaker 2>singing it like for two weeks. Fine, I'll put mine away,

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01:28:51.560 --> 01:28:55.439
<v Speaker 2>or maybe three weeks. It's been a while because there's

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<v Speaker 2>a I want to say, is it an Infinity commercial

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01:28:57.800 --> 01:29:00.079
<v Speaker 2>that has like a clip of this song in it?

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01:29:00.159 --> 01:29:02.000
<v Speaker 2>And then it put the whole song in my head

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01:29:02.279 --> 01:29:03.680
<v Speaker 2>and I had you singing it too.

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<v Speaker 3>So there, all right, hold on, let's do it, right.

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01:29:08.199 --> 01:29:10.720
<v Speaker 3>Do you have a fifteen minute phase?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, As a matter of fact, I do. What is it?

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01:29:14.720 --> 01:29:17.640
<v Speaker 2>This song came out when I was I had just

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<v Speaker 2>turned thirteen. From nineteen seventy nine Rupert Holmes Escape the

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01:29:24.560 --> 01:29:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Pina Colada song.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're going to go out to the break with escape.

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01:29:31.479 --> 01:29:36.119
<v Speaker 2>And we'll be right there. I was tired of my lady.

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01:29:37.479 --> 01:29:42.760
<v Speaker 4>We've been together too long, like a worn out recording,

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01:29:44.600 --> 01:29:46.000
<v Speaker 4>bove a favorite song.

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01:29:47.800 --> 01:29:49.640
<v Speaker 2>So was she lay there asleeping.

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01:29:51.279 --> 01:29:55.920
<v Speaker 4>I read the paper in bed, and in the personal

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01:29:56.079 --> 01:29:58.920
<v Speaker 4>columns it was this.

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01:29:58.880 --> 01:30:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Letter I read.

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01:30:01.600 --> 01:30:06.039
<v Speaker 3>If you like king to conant us getting.

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01:30:05.720 --> 01:30:10.439
<v Speaker 2>Caught in the rain, if you're not into your.

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01:30:10.439 --> 01:30:13.319
<v Speaker 3>God, if you have half.

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01:30:13.239 --> 01:30:16.920
<v Speaker 1>A brain, bid, if you like making love and the

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01:30:17.319 --> 01:30:23.079
<v Speaker 1>night in the tunes on the cake, I'm a love

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01:30:23.239 --> 01:30:24.000
<v Speaker 1>that you've looked.

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01:30:24.159 --> 01:30:26.239
<v Speaker 2>Falk right to.

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01:30:26.279 --> 01:31:02.680
<v Speaker 6>Me and esay and we are back.

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01:31:03.119 --> 01:31:09.960
<v Speaker 2>We're back. I remember that song being all over the radio. Ah,

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01:31:10.159 --> 01:31:14.640
<v Speaker 2>I was thirteen. It's fun. It tells a whole story.

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01:31:14.640 --> 01:31:17.359
<v Speaker 2>It's a fun song. It's kind of cute. Yeah, it's

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01:31:17.359 --> 01:31:20.039
<v Speaker 2>always been a fun song, part of the zeitgeist for

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01:31:20.039 --> 01:31:22.520
<v Speaker 2>a long time. Anyway, it's been in my head, so

1341
01:31:22.880 --> 01:31:27.039
<v Speaker 2>now it can be in theirs. It is sadly time

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01:31:28.359 --> 01:31:33.680
<v Speaker 2>for the cavalcade of nonsense. Fine, I'm gonna go as

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01:31:33.720 --> 01:31:36.239
<v Speaker 2>fast as I possibly can, But you know, I think

1344
01:31:36.279 --> 01:31:38.720
<v Speaker 2>we need to talk about some of this. The Fourth

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01:31:38.800 --> 01:31:43.399
<v Speaker 2>Circuit rules that states can compel trans adults to appreciate

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01:31:43.880 --> 01:31:49.439
<v Speaker 2>their sex same quotes via care bands. I'm sorry what

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01:31:49.640 --> 01:31:52.960
<v Speaker 2>you heard me. They ruled that states encouraging citizens to

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01:31:53.039 --> 01:31:58.399
<v Speaker 2>appreciate their sex through care bands is a constitutional goal,

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01:31:58.520 --> 01:32:06.000
<v Speaker 2>affirming West Virginia's Medicaid ban for trans adults. On Tuesday,

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01:32:06.079 --> 01:32:10.439
<v Speaker 2>an all Republican and mostly Trump appointed panel of the

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01:32:10.479 --> 01:32:15.079
<v Speaker 2>Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that states can exclude

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01:32:15.520 --> 01:32:20.840
<v Speaker 2>gender affirming surgery from Medicaid coverage, allowing West Virginia's exclusion

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01:32:21.279 --> 01:32:25.239
<v Speaker 2>to return to full effect. In doing so, the panel

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<v Speaker 2>extended the Supreme Court's decision in Scurmetti, which held that

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01:32:30.479 --> 01:32:37.199
<v Speaker 2>transgender youth care bans were constitutional to transgender adults, the

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<v Speaker 2>first federal appeers court in the country to do so,

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01:32:41.960 --> 01:32:47.800
<v Speaker 2>and directly states that adult care bans are legal. Okay, First,

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01:32:47.880 --> 01:32:51.800
<v Speaker 2>there is a group of jackals, obviously, yeah, and they

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01:32:52.000 --> 01:32:57.359
<v Speaker 2>you know. Perhaps even more troubling, the judges declared that

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01:32:57.399 --> 01:33:03.159
<v Speaker 2>transgender adult care was dangerous. No, it's not, and that

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01:33:03.279 --> 01:33:07.520
<v Speaker 2>it is rational for a state to restrict access to

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01:33:07.600 --> 01:33:11.880
<v Speaker 2>such care in order to encourage citizens to appreciate their sex.

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01:33:12.319 --> 01:33:16.520
<v Speaker 2>I want to take away these jagoffs viagra. Well that

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01:33:16.840 --> 01:33:18.920
<v Speaker 2>I'll bet I could find a lot of women who

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01:33:18.920 --> 01:33:24.760
<v Speaker 2>believe that shit's dangerous for you know, the ruling effectively

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01:33:24.840 --> 01:33:30.520
<v Speaker 2>reversed a previous Enbank decision by the same circuit and

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01:33:30.880 --> 01:33:36.359
<v Speaker 2>established precedent for a wave of new laws targeting transgender adults.

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<v Speaker 2>Just weeks after, Heritage Foundation president Kevin Roberts declared on

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01:33:41.920 --> 01:33:46.800
<v Speaker 2>a podcast that the solution to transgender adult care was

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01:33:46.880 --> 01:33:58.760
<v Speaker 2>to outlaw it. Wow. Yeah, it is not irrational. Yes,

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01:33:58.800 --> 01:34:03.359
<v Speaker 2>it is for a ledge to forego Medicaid coverage of

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01:34:03.600 --> 01:34:07.199
<v Speaker 2>arguably ineffective and dangerous procedures, which is a fucking out

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01:34:07.239 --> 01:34:10.399
<v Speaker 2>and outlying And how would they know they're very effective

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01:34:10.760 --> 01:34:14.560
<v Speaker 2>and they're not dangerous and allocate its limited resources to

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01:34:14.640 --> 01:34:18.760
<v Speaker 2>covering other treatments like your viagra? I imagine. What's more,

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01:34:18.840 --> 01:34:24.159
<v Speaker 2>states may legitimately recognize and celebrate the inherent differences between

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01:34:24.199 --> 01:34:29.880
<v Speaker 2>men and women. Wow, it is not irrational for a

1378
01:34:30.000 --> 01:34:35.760
<v Speaker 2>legislature to encourage citizens to appreciate their sex and not

1379
01:34:36.079 --> 01:34:44.840
<v Speaker 2>become disdainful of their sex by refusing to fund experimental procedures. Lies, lies,

1380
01:34:45.279 --> 01:34:49.159
<v Speaker 2>and more lies. And these are judges lying. So you know,

1381
01:34:49.199 --> 01:34:52.960
<v Speaker 2>our court system right where you have judges appointed by

1382
01:34:53.000 --> 01:34:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Trump means absolutely fucking nothing. Yep, absolutely fucking nothing. The

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01:34:59.039 --> 01:35:02.920
<v Speaker 2>precedent in this decision can be weaponized far beyond medicaid.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of implications here, its lies and more lies.

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<v Speaker 3>Iowa bans cities and towns from protecting transgender citizens' civil rights.

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01:35:22.520 --> 01:35:25.800
<v Speaker 3>A year after Iowa stripped gender identity from its civil

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01:35:25.880 --> 01:35:29.359
<v Speaker 3>rights code, Kim Reynolds signed a law barring cities and

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01:35:29.439 --> 01:35:36.239
<v Speaker 3>counties from restoring protections for trans residents. Iowa Governor Kim Reynold's,

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01:35:36.359 --> 01:35:40.720
<v Speaker 3>a Republican, signed a new law prohibiting local governments from

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01:35:40.760 --> 01:35:45.640
<v Speaker 3>protecting transgender Iowan civil rights. The law comes a year

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01:35:45.680 --> 01:35:48.960
<v Speaker 3>after Iowa became the first state in the country to

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01:35:49.119 --> 01:35:52.520
<v Speaker 3>roll back its civil rights code by removing gender identity

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01:35:52.560 --> 01:35:57.359
<v Speaker 3>from protected classes. Several progressive jurisdictions like Des Moines and

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01:35:57.439 --> 01:36:02.159
<v Speaker 3>Iowa City, where we have listeners, still detected trans Iowans.

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01:36:01.640 --> 01:36:03.800
<v Speaker 2>And local ordinances rights they did.

1396
01:36:04.319 --> 01:36:08.800
<v Speaker 3>But that concerned the Republican controlled legislature enough to pass

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01:36:08.920 --> 01:36:14.520
<v Speaker 3>legislation pre empting local rules. We just believed that locals

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01:36:14.520 --> 01:36:17.560
<v Speaker 3>should follow the same laws, especially when it comes to

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01:36:17.600 --> 01:36:20.600
<v Speaker 3>civil rights, Reynolds said in a press conference. According to

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01:36:20.640 --> 01:36:22.159
<v Speaker 3>Iowa Public Radio News.

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01:36:21.960 --> 01:36:24.960
<v Speaker 2>We want to fuck those traneees over in the cities too.

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01:36:25.359 --> 01:36:30.920
<v Speaker 3>Right, otherwise, we have a mismatch of rights out there,

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01:36:31.279 --> 01:36:33.800
<v Speaker 3>and we felt that it was the right thing to do.

1404
01:36:34.399 --> 01:36:37.720
<v Speaker 3>But the move upset local elected officials, who said Iowa

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01:36:37.880 --> 01:36:42.239
<v Speaker 3>entered treacherous legal territory by prohibiting officials from protecting a class.

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01:36:41.960 --> 01:36:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Of people yep.

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01:36:43.279 --> 01:36:47.039
<v Speaker 3>Laura Burgess, an Iowa City council member, said that her

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01:36:47.079 --> 01:36:49.920
<v Speaker 3>city passed a resolution last year in response to the

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01:36:49.920 --> 01:36:51.560
<v Speaker 3>state's civil rights rollback.

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01:36:52.000 --> 01:36:52.119
<v Speaker 4>Right.

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01:36:52.720 --> 01:36:54.199
<v Speaker 2>Local officials were resolved to.

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01:36:54.199 --> 01:36:56.960
<v Speaker 3>Reinforce the fact that we had that authority and to

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01:36:57.000 --> 01:36:59.560
<v Speaker 3>make sure that our residents knew that discrimination on the

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01:36:59.600 --> 01:37:04.199
<v Speaker 3>basis of gender identity specifically was still prohibited in Iowa City.

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01:37:05.000 --> 01:37:08.720
<v Speaker 3>She called the new law signed by Reynolds extreme overreach.

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01:37:09.119 --> 01:37:13.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's exactly what it is, period. And you know,

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01:37:13.560 --> 01:37:17.159
<v Speaker 2>they want to make sure that we don't have rights

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01:37:17.159 --> 01:37:24.039
<v Speaker 2>anywhere in Iowa. Isn't that sweet and special? No, quickly

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01:37:24.039 --> 01:37:26.720
<v Speaker 2>as possible, Trump just rolled out a cruel anti trans

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01:37:26.840 --> 01:37:33.000
<v Speaker 2>prison policy that doctors are calling dangerous. A new Bureau

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01:37:33.039 --> 01:37:38.479
<v Speaker 2>of Prisons move requiring that transgender inmates be tapered off

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01:37:38.600 --> 01:37:44.479
<v Speaker 2>their hormones could bring serious health consequences. Physicians and advocates

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01:37:44.560 --> 01:37:50.119
<v Speaker 2>are warning the Trump administration has ordered federal prisons to

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01:37:50.199 --> 01:37:55.239
<v Speaker 2>begin tapering hormone therapy for incarcerated transgender people. Physicians said

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01:37:55.239 --> 01:38:00.000
<v Speaker 2>that it could inflict immediate psychological distress and long term

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01:38:00.399 --> 01:38:04.560
<v Speaker 2>medical harm on a vulnerable population. You bet your asset could.

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01:38:04.840 --> 01:38:09.119
<v Speaker 2>But they want us dead. That's the They will just

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01:38:09.199 --> 01:38:13.359
<v Speaker 2>as soon see us dead. The guidance, which was issued

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01:38:13.399 --> 01:38:17.279
<v Speaker 2>on February nineteenth by the Federal Bureau of Prisons, outlines

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01:38:17.359 --> 01:38:20.800
<v Speaker 2>how the prison system will treat incarcerated people diagnosed with

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01:38:20.880 --> 01:38:26.159
<v Speaker 2>gender dysphoria. It bars the agency from initiating hormone therapy

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01:38:26.199 --> 01:38:29.960
<v Speaker 2>for inmates who were not already receiving it, and instructs

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01:38:30.039 --> 01:38:36.479
<v Speaker 2>clinicians to develop tapering plans that could ultimately discontinue treatment

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01:38:36.560 --> 01:38:40.359
<v Speaker 2>for prisoners who currently rely on hormones as part of

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01:38:40.399 --> 01:38:49.119
<v Speaker 2>their medical care. Yeah, it reads less like clinical guidance

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01:38:49.479 --> 01:38:57.039
<v Speaker 2>than a political decision overriding established medical practice.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe this violates the Eighth Amendment. Isn't that cruel

1438
01:39:00.680 --> 01:39:01.720
<v Speaker 3>and unusual punishment?

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01:39:01.960 --> 01:39:05.079
<v Speaker 2>I think so. Yeah, they're saying a form of evidence

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01:39:05.159 --> 01:39:09.079
<v Speaker 2>based care will no longer be provided to people under

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01:39:09.119 --> 01:39:14.920
<v Speaker 2>the purview of the Bureau of Prisons. Yeah so, said

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01:39:14.960 --> 01:39:18.119
<v Speaker 2>doctor cross Street, a Boston primary care physician and one

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01:39:18.159 --> 01:39:22.800
<v Speaker 2>of the country's leading researchers on transgender health. Quote. That

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01:39:22.880 --> 01:39:26.760
<v Speaker 2>means the policy runs counter to best practices and arguably

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01:39:27.239 --> 01:39:31.520
<v Speaker 2>probably the law in terms of providing care to inmates,

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01:39:31.800 --> 01:39:36.399
<v Speaker 2>because it's setting up a different standard for them versus

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01:39:36.439 --> 01:39:40.920
<v Speaker 2>the standard out of the community. Yeah, Cruelty is the

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01:39:40.960 --> 01:39:48.000
<v Speaker 2>point here. Yep. Cruelty is absolutely the point. And you know,

1449
01:39:49.319 --> 01:39:55.680
<v Speaker 2>watch for the uptick of suicides in prison. Yep. If

1450
01:39:56.119 --> 01:40:00.000
<v Speaker 2>you know this holds, it collides with one of medicine's

1451
01:40:00.079 --> 01:40:04.319
<v Speaker 2>oldest principles. One of the main tenants in medical ethics

1452
01:40:04.479 --> 01:40:09.079
<v Speaker 2>is non malfeasance, do no harm yep. And this is

1453
01:40:09.119 --> 01:40:13.520
<v Speaker 2>going to have direct harm on people. But they don't

1454
01:40:13.560 --> 01:40:16.520
<v Speaker 2>see us as people. And this is what happens when

1455
01:40:16.560 --> 01:40:20.560
<v Speaker 2>we don't see people as people. Should we talk about

1456
01:40:20.600 --> 01:40:26.399
<v Speaker 2>medical experiments in prison and when those things happened, Yeah,

1457
01:40:26.439 --> 01:40:28.680
<v Speaker 2>this is that in a different form.

1458
01:40:29.760 --> 01:40:32.199
<v Speaker 3>I mean that three fifths rule was just to justify

1459
01:40:32.239 --> 01:40:36.279
<v Speaker 3>the cruel treatment of enslaved people. Don't see people as

1460
01:40:36.359 --> 01:40:38.920
<v Speaker 3>human and you can justify the things you do to.

1461
01:40:38.880 --> 01:40:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Them, right, right, Yeah, this is so much like that,

1462
01:40:46.079 --> 01:40:52.079
<v Speaker 2>and cruelty is exactly and only the point. Yeah. So

1463
01:40:53.640 --> 01:40:58.239
<v Speaker 2>a new NHS England review this is important, excludes ninety

1464
01:40:58.399 --> 01:41:03.199
<v Speaker 2>seven percent of all trans studies in order to say

1465
01:41:03.239 --> 01:41:08.199
<v Speaker 2>that our healthcare doesn't work. How about it. It's led

1466
01:41:08.199 --> 01:41:12.439
<v Speaker 2>to a ban for HRT through the NHS England system

1467
01:41:12.520 --> 01:41:17.560
<v Speaker 2>under the age of eighteen. Yeah, they published ten evidence

1468
01:41:17.600 --> 01:41:21.479
<v Speaker 2>reviews purporting to show that the quality of evidence for

1469
01:41:21.520 --> 01:41:25.760
<v Speaker 2>hormone therapy for transgender use is low. The reviews were

1470
01:41:25.800 --> 01:41:29.119
<v Speaker 2>released alongside an announcement that the healthcare system would be

1471
01:41:29.159 --> 01:41:33.119
<v Speaker 2>banning new hormone prescriptions for transgender use under the age

1472
01:41:33.159 --> 01:41:39.359
<v Speaker 2>of eighteen, but upon closer examination, the evidence reviews appear

1473
01:41:39.920 --> 01:41:47.079
<v Speaker 2>to be an extreme example of politically manufactured science, similar

1474
01:41:47.119 --> 01:41:50.720
<v Speaker 2>to other reviews that have come out of the UK

1475
01:41:50.920 --> 01:41:56.159
<v Speaker 2>in recent months to provide political justification for banning gender

1476
01:41:56.199 --> 01:42:00.279
<v Speaker 2>affirming care. Across the ten reviews, five and four, forty

1477
01:42:00.279 --> 01:42:04.439
<v Speaker 2>seven full text screenings resulted in just seventeen studies, included

1478
01:42:05.359 --> 01:42:15.680
<v Speaker 2>a staggering ninety seven percent exclusion rate. The reviews used

1479
01:42:15.720 --> 01:42:20.239
<v Speaker 2>exclusion criteria designed to guarantee that result discarded some of

1480
01:42:20.279 --> 01:42:25.079
<v Speaker 2>the most significant transgender care studies published in the last

1481
01:42:25.159 --> 01:42:30.640
<v Speaker 2>decade for nonsensical reasons, and then reached what appears to

1482
01:42:30.680 --> 01:42:36.560
<v Speaker 2>be a predetermined conclusion that there is insufficient evidence that

1483
01:42:36.680 --> 01:42:42.560
<v Speaker 2>hormone therapy for trans youth works because we got rid

1484
01:42:42.600 --> 01:42:44.640
<v Speaker 2>of all the evidence. And of course they're also hiding

1485
01:42:44.880 --> 01:42:48.359
<v Speaker 2>the suicides. You know, they're hiding the death rate. They're

1486
01:42:48.439 --> 01:42:51.079
<v Speaker 2>just lying. They're lying, they're killing us, and they're lying

1487
01:42:51.119 --> 01:42:55.560
<v Speaker 2>about it. Is that's what is going on, you know. Again,

1488
01:42:56.359 --> 01:43:03.640
<v Speaker 2>it's it's just chilling over there as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, yeah,

1489
01:43:03.760 --> 01:43:08.079
<v Speaker 2>so that happened. There is a very detailed article that

1490
01:43:08.439 --> 01:43:12.199
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Reid put out that really gets into the nuts

1491
01:43:12.239 --> 01:43:14.560
<v Speaker 2>and bolts of this whole thing. But you know, liar's

1492
01:43:14.560 --> 01:43:18.359
<v Speaker 2>gonna lie and affect the lives of real people. Yep.

1493
01:43:18.439 --> 01:43:21.840
<v Speaker 2>And lives will be lost by this, and it's irresponsible

1494
01:43:21.920 --> 01:43:29.119
<v Speaker 2>and it's awful, evil, evil evil. So this is a

1495
01:43:29.119 --> 01:43:33.119
<v Speaker 2>bit of an update because you had asked me during

1496
01:43:33.119 --> 01:43:37.239
<v Speaker 2>our last show, what about people who never changed their

1497
01:43:37.359 --> 01:43:41.760
<v Speaker 2>name right or gender markin? Now? Yeah, okay, so I

1498
01:43:41.800 --> 01:43:47.000
<v Speaker 2>still might be right. This article, okay, is about a

1499
01:43:47.039 --> 01:43:51.600
<v Speaker 2>woman who never changed her gender marker and Kansas invalidated

1500
01:43:51.640 --> 01:43:56.359
<v Speaker 2>her license. Anyway, let's read this. A trans Kansas resident

1501
01:43:56.479 --> 01:44:00.920
<v Speaker 2>recently changed her name. See she's still changed her name though.

1502
01:44:00.920 --> 01:44:02.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, so that's what put on.

1503
01:44:02.079 --> 01:44:04.960
<v Speaker 2>There was a name change. That was what right, if

1504
01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:09.399
<v Speaker 2>you've not done anything, he didn't get you didn't get

1505
01:44:09.399 --> 01:44:12.159
<v Speaker 2>a letter. But she hadn't even changed a gender marker.

1506
01:44:12.239 --> 01:44:13.359
<v Speaker 2>She just changed her name.

1507
01:44:15.039 --> 01:44:16.479
<v Speaker 3>But that pinged because she was.

1508
01:44:16.439 --> 01:44:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Fearing what they might do if she did, and they

1509
01:44:20.039 --> 01:44:25.399
<v Speaker 2>still flagged her id. God damn it. Andrea Ellis of Wellington,

1510
01:44:25.479 --> 01:44:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Kansas was one of many trans Kansas who opened her

1511
01:44:28.960 --> 01:44:31.319
<v Speaker 2>mail on February twenty fifth to learn that in less

1512
01:44:31.319 --> 01:44:34.600
<v Speaker 2>than twenty four hours, her driver's license would be invalid.

1513
01:44:35.199 --> 01:44:38.199
<v Speaker 2>The letter issued by the Kansas Department of Revenue informed

1514
01:44:38.199 --> 01:44:42.000
<v Speaker 2>her that because how substitute for Senate Bill two for

1515
01:44:42.000 --> 01:44:46.479
<v Speaker 2>four requires Kansas issued driver's licenses and identification cards to

1516
01:44:46.520 --> 01:44:51.560
<v Speaker 2>reflect the credential holders sex at birth, her current license

1517
01:44:51.640 --> 01:45:01.479
<v Speaker 2>would become invalid immediately, even though it does right. She

1518
01:45:01.520 --> 01:45:05.279
<v Speaker 2>had been following the news closely, she never expected the

1519
01:45:05.359 --> 01:45:08.960
<v Speaker 2>state to send her a letter invalidating her license. That's

1520
01:45:08.960 --> 01:45:11.560
<v Speaker 2>because she had never changed her sex marker on her

1521
01:45:11.600 --> 01:45:17.079
<v Speaker 2>license in the first place. Yep. She last updated her

1522
01:45:17.119 --> 01:45:20.720
<v Speaker 2>driver's license on January seventh, of twenty twenty six, after

1523
01:45:20.800 --> 01:45:23.920
<v Speaker 2>completing a legal name change in December of twenty twenty five.

1524
01:45:24.279 --> 01:45:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Fearing her license would be revoked if she updated her

1525
01:45:27.640 --> 01:45:31.079
<v Speaker 2>sex marker, she deliberately held off on doing so, and

1526
01:45:31.239 --> 01:45:36.720
<v Speaker 2>they got her any way. Man, this is really sloppy.

1527
01:45:37.359 --> 01:45:40.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, we're hearing all kinds of stories. The DMV

1528
01:45:40.680 --> 01:45:42.800
<v Speaker 2>doesn't know what to do with half of this. Some

1529
01:45:42.880 --> 01:45:45.760
<v Speaker 2>of them issued temporary licenses to replace the ones that

1530
01:45:45.800 --> 01:45:49.520
<v Speaker 2>were revoked without making any change to anything, because they

1531
01:45:49.560 --> 01:45:52.159
<v Speaker 2>don't even know what they're doing, right, None of this

1532
01:45:52.279 --> 01:45:54.159
<v Speaker 2>makes sense. It was done in the dark of night,

1533
01:45:54.680 --> 01:45:59.119
<v Speaker 2>as quickly as possible, with as little input as possible, right, Yeah,

1534
01:45:59.159 --> 01:46:01.279
<v Speaker 2>because that's how they do this shit, because if they

1535
01:46:01.279 --> 01:46:03.640
<v Speaker 2>did everything in the light of day and above board.

1536
01:46:03.600 --> 01:46:07.000
<v Speaker 3>It wouldn't go through, right, or at least not without pushback.

1537
01:46:07.359 --> 01:46:12.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, of course, of course. Yeah. The Kansas Attorney General

1538
01:46:12.640 --> 01:46:15.399
<v Speaker 2>did give until March twenty six, so I guess they

1539
01:46:15.439 --> 01:46:20.000
<v Speaker 2>have nine more days before they enforced the penalties, which

1540
01:46:20.039 --> 01:46:24.399
<v Speaker 2>can include jail time and huge fines the fuck out

1541
01:46:24.399 --> 01:46:28.000
<v Speaker 2>of here. Yeah, yeah, trans people are fleeing Kansas as

1542
01:46:28.079 --> 01:46:31.880
<v Speaker 2>quickly as they possibly can. Yeah, yeah, we're talking about

1543
01:46:32.800 --> 01:46:36.319
<v Speaker 2>I keep reading thousands of letters, but this effects about

1544
01:46:36.319 --> 01:46:40.199
<v Speaker 2>seventeen hundred transfolk in Kansas. I think that's all there were,

1545
01:46:40.279 --> 01:46:43.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, but that's how many were affected anyway, something

1546
01:46:43.319 --> 01:46:47.439
<v Speaker 2>like seventeen to eighteen hundred. So yeah, but a lot

1547
01:46:47.439 --> 01:46:49.399
<v Speaker 2>of them are, you know. And I've seen some of

1548
01:46:49.439 --> 01:46:52.680
<v Speaker 2>the posts of people saying I'm getting the hell out

1549
01:46:53.039 --> 01:46:57.119
<v Speaker 2>fast as I can, I'm moving and some have already

1550
01:46:58.000 --> 01:46:59.840
<v Speaker 2>packed up. Again.

1551
01:47:00.079 --> 01:47:02.680
<v Speaker 3>We have uh, we have listeners in Kansas as well.

1552
01:47:04.439 --> 01:47:06.640
<v Speaker 3>Full Circle topod dot com US know how you're doing.

1553
01:47:07.640 --> 01:47:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And of course, Indiana's anti trans attorney general

1554
01:47:13.039 --> 01:47:17.600
<v Speaker 2>is also preparing to revoke trans people's documents. How about that,

1555
01:47:18.840 --> 01:47:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Indiana A. G. Todd Rokita has been compiling a list

1556
01:47:23.600 --> 01:47:27.840
<v Speaker 2>of his states trans people, Following in Kansas's footsteps. He's

1557
01:47:27.920 --> 01:47:33.119
<v Speaker 2>quietly laying the groundwork to declare that their IDs falsified records.

1558
01:47:33.960 --> 01:47:40.439
<v Speaker 2>How disgusting, How disgusting these people are, how awful? How

1559
01:47:40.439 --> 01:47:46.159
<v Speaker 2>can they live with themselves? Well, Charles, come on, this

1560
01:47:46.399 --> 01:47:50.960
<v Speaker 2>is the same fucking rednecks. I hate people. It's it's

1561
01:47:51.000 --> 01:47:55.199
<v Speaker 2>it's the same prejudice, just differently pointed.

1562
01:47:57.000 --> 01:47:58.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean that's still asked the question, how can he

1563
01:47:58.760 --> 01:47:59.479
<v Speaker 3>live with themselves?

1564
01:47:59.479 --> 01:48:05.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, up until this point,

1565
01:48:06.239 --> 01:48:10.880
<v Speaker 2>no state had done this. Kansas did it. This cannot

1566
01:48:10.880 --> 01:48:14.880
<v Speaker 2>be legal, and yet now Indiana's trying to follows suit

1567
01:48:14.880 --> 01:48:24.319
<v Speaker 2>as fast as they can. How disgusting. So Marcia's is

1568
01:48:24.359 --> 01:48:29.000
<v Speaker 2>a newer queer friendly at least bar on South Street

1569
01:48:29.439 --> 01:48:33.399
<v Speaker 2>named after Marsha P. Johnson. Yes, so yeah, So.

1570
01:48:33.680 --> 01:48:36.920
<v Speaker 3>Marsha's owner says her bar was inspected on a busy

1571
01:48:36.960 --> 01:48:41.439
<v Speaker 3>weekend night as a result of unfounded reports of underage drinking.

1572
01:48:42.239 --> 01:48:44.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, we've had this happen to us exactly.

1573
01:48:44.479 --> 01:48:47.520
<v Speaker 3>Philadelphia police said the incident was part of a standard

1574
01:48:47.560 --> 01:48:53.239
<v Speaker 3>compliance check. Now, which, okay, fine, it happens.

1575
01:48:54.680 --> 01:48:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Yes, somebody who wants to fuck with you calls makes

1576
01:48:57.520 --> 01:49:00.399
<v Speaker 2>a complaint and they have to follow up. Right now.

1577
01:49:00.880 --> 01:49:04.800
<v Speaker 3>When it happened to us, it was one officer, maybe two,

1578
01:49:05.680 --> 01:49:10.359
<v Speaker 3>usually roughly a dozen Philadelphia and State police officers.

1579
01:49:10.600 --> 01:49:13.000
<v Speaker 2>State police, yeah right, not right.

1580
01:49:12.960 --> 01:49:16.600
<v Speaker 3>Flooded into the women's sports bar to investigate the lesbian

1581
01:49:16.640 --> 01:49:20.960
<v Speaker 3>owned business, and it raised questions about whether the city

1582
01:49:20.960 --> 01:49:23.000
<v Speaker 3>went overboard on a routine bar inspection.

1583
01:49:23.079 --> 01:49:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Sounds like it tell you, I'm sure they probably did. Yeah.

1584
01:49:26.239 --> 01:49:30.960
<v Speaker 3>Video posted on Instagram by South Street Nightlife chronicler at

1585
01:49:31.000 --> 01:49:35.039
<v Speaker 3>South Street, Philly showed twelve masked and unmasked police officers

1586
01:49:35.119 --> 01:49:39.520
<v Speaker 3>why masked, leaving Marsh's at four thirty South Street on

1587
01:49:39.640 --> 01:49:43.880
<v Speaker 3>February twentieth. The footage was in line with how bar

1588
01:49:44.000 --> 01:49:47.479
<v Speaker 3>owner Shavon Anderson described the event in a video statement

1589
01:49:47.479 --> 01:49:50.600
<v Speaker 3>on the bar's Instagram account. Authorities advised us that the

1590
01:49:50.600 --> 01:49:54.239
<v Speaker 3>inspection followed a second anonymous complaint received within thirty days

1591
01:49:54.239 --> 01:49:57.399
<v Speaker 3>of a prior call. The complaint alleged that Marsh's was

1592
01:49:57.439 --> 01:50:01.800
<v Speaker 3>serving underage patrons, selling alcohol after permitted hours, and operating

1593
01:50:01.840 --> 01:50:03.439
<v Speaker 3>without proper licenses.

1594
01:50:04.880 --> 01:50:10.359
<v Speaker 2>And I doubt they would be stupid. They would be stupid.

1595
01:50:11.479 --> 01:50:13.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh hell yeah, because so many eyes are on them.

1596
01:50:13.520 --> 01:50:17.039
<v Speaker 2>Right, I know that the state police have to follow

1597
01:50:17.119 --> 01:50:19.319
<v Speaker 2>up on this stuff. We had. It happened to us

1598
01:50:19.319 --> 01:50:22.680
<v Speaker 2>when we owned a bar where you know, they send

1599
01:50:22.720 --> 01:50:26.920
<v Speaker 2>in spies to see what happens at last call, but

1600
01:50:27.039 --> 01:50:29.960
<v Speaker 2>we told them to do that. I well, right, because

1601
01:50:30.479 --> 01:50:36.239
<v Speaker 2>this was happening to us repeatedly, And I went through

1602
01:50:36.359 --> 01:50:41.039
<v Speaker 2>channels through a state representative who was the head of

1603
01:50:41.119 --> 01:50:44.960
<v Speaker 2>the committee that oversaw the alcohol lows, I guess, or

1604
01:50:45.000 --> 01:50:49.760
<v Speaker 2>the DLCB, the Liquor Control Board in Philadelphia or in Pennsylvania.

1605
01:50:50.119 --> 01:50:53.600
<v Speaker 2>And I invited them. I said, you know, do what

1606
01:50:53.640 --> 01:50:57.359
<v Speaker 2>you have to do, but your resources are being misused

1607
01:50:58.600 --> 01:51:02.439
<v Speaker 2>every time. These things are unfounded. These are people who

1608
01:51:02.439 --> 01:51:04.439
<v Speaker 2>do not like the fact that we are queer and

1609
01:51:05.119 --> 01:51:09.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, running a very actually good business in their neighborhood.

1610
01:51:09.359 --> 01:51:12.680
<v Speaker 2>And what's kind of ironic is now it's a trouble bar.

1611
01:51:13.760 --> 01:51:16.039
<v Speaker 2>Now they have what they thought they had before when

1612
01:51:16.079 --> 01:51:19.840
<v Speaker 2>we were extremely respectful the way we ran that bar.

1613
01:51:20.399 --> 01:51:23.800
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it was happening. They would come and say, look,

1614
01:51:23.840 --> 01:51:28.680
<v Speaker 2>we know, but right, and it did finally stop, you know,

1615
01:51:28.920 --> 01:51:30.600
<v Speaker 2>at least as far as we knew. But I said,

1616
01:51:30.680 --> 01:51:34.199
<v Speaker 2>you can have someone in here every night when we close, right,

1617
01:51:34.319 --> 01:51:39.479
<v Speaker 2>please do please do right, and we don't serve anyone

1618
01:51:39.520 --> 01:51:43.239
<v Speaker 2>without id right, and we test the idea right So

1619
01:51:43.920 --> 01:51:46.479
<v Speaker 2>and I you know, and we were nowhere near South Street.

1620
01:51:46.840 --> 01:51:53.640
<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine they're doing any of that, truly, I can't. Right,

1621
01:51:53.800 --> 01:51:56.520
<v Speaker 2>it would be really, really stupid. And all the bars

1622
01:51:56.520 --> 01:52:00.000
<v Speaker 2>downtown are really careful about you like that, Oh hell you.

1623
01:52:00.119 --> 01:52:04.000
<v Speaker 3>My My issue is not about the fact that the

1624
01:52:04.039 --> 01:52:06.680
<v Speaker 3>cops were there, because, like you just said, they have to.

1625
01:52:06.880 --> 01:52:09.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you don't need forty seven of them right

1626
01:52:09.640 --> 01:52:13.239
<v Speaker 2>and masked. You don't need that, Like, what the fuck

1627
01:52:13.319 --> 01:52:14.439
<v Speaker 2>is that about? Yeah?

1628
01:52:14.479 --> 01:52:17.840
<v Speaker 3>The reason why this set put my hackles up was

1629
01:52:17.920 --> 01:52:19.039
<v Speaker 3>it was giving.

1630
01:52:20.199 --> 01:52:25.399
<v Speaker 2>Stonewall. You know what I'm saying. It's happened in other places. Yes,

1631
01:52:25.520 --> 01:52:30.239
<v Speaker 2>I do. I hear you. I hear you. And I

1632
01:52:30.279 --> 01:52:34.239
<v Speaker 2>love the fact that we have someone from the District

1633
01:52:34.239 --> 01:52:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Attorney's office who is now the LGBT liaison for the

1634
01:52:38.640 --> 01:52:44.039
<v Speaker 2>Mayor's office. And you know, I expect, yep, this won't just.

1635
01:52:45.119 --> 01:52:52.199
<v Speaker 3>Die, right, So I would suggest that go Tito, right,

1636
01:52:52.279 --> 01:52:56.680
<v Speaker 3>go Tito, that the owners of Marshes, assuming that you

1637
01:52:56.720 --> 01:53:00.399
<v Speaker 3>know they haven't already, you know, make friends with in

1638
01:53:00.399 --> 01:53:02.840
<v Speaker 3>the Mayor's office and let them know, like you run

1639
01:53:02.840 --> 01:53:06.359
<v Speaker 3>an above board business and this is what's happening.

1640
01:53:06.600 --> 01:53:09.359
<v Speaker 2>But you know, I don't know that that's going to help.

1641
01:53:09.560 --> 01:53:12.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying that the larger publicity of it all and

1642
01:53:12.479 --> 01:53:15.119
<v Speaker 2>where the Philadelphia Police are concerned in this whole thing,

1643
01:53:15.640 --> 01:53:20.880
<v Speaker 2>because the state police are the enforcement arm of the

1644
01:53:21.000 --> 01:53:25.039
<v Speaker 2>LCB right, it's state police, that's true. It has nothing

1645
01:53:25.079 --> 01:53:29.319
<v Speaker 2>to do with the city cops nothing. So, I mean

1646
01:53:29.359 --> 01:53:32.000
<v Speaker 2>that was always my understanding. I don't even know why

1647
01:53:32.000 --> 01:53:35.560
<v Speaker 2>there would have been city cops involved, actually this is

1648
01:53:35.600 --> 01:53:39.079
<v Speaker 2>my question. But yeah, I mean, so that's what I'm saying,

1649
01:53:39.159 --> 01:53:42.279
<v Speaker 2>So that parts of city question, the rest of it, Yeah,

1650
01:53:42.319 --> 01:53:45.720
<v Speaker 2>they should be, they should be make a noise, especially

1651
01:53:45.760 --> 01:53:50.199
<v Speaker 2>if they keep repeatedly, you know, passing the because we

1652
01:53:50.239 --> 01:53:53.600
<v Speaker 2>also had surprise inspections that came out of that, right

1653
01:53:53.760 --> 01:53:56.079
<v Speaker 2>and you know where you've got to produce certain paperwork

1654
01:53:56.159 --> 01:53:58.680
<v Speaker 2>on demand and da da da da, and that was

1655
01:53:58.680 --> 01:54:02.399
<v Speaker 2>always up to date. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a mess.

1656
01:54:02.439 --> 01:54:08.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to move on. RFK Junior's HHS proposes scrapping

1657
01:54:08.159 --> 01:54:15.479
<v Speaker 2>protections for LGBTQ plus kids in foster care. The policy

1658
01:54:15.560 --> 01:54:19.920
<v Speaker 2>change was announced in a Notice of proposed rule making.

1659
01:54:20.439 --> 01:54:25.640
<v Speaker 2>This is the United States Department of Health and Human Services.

1660
01:54:26.359 --> 01:54:32.199
<v Speaker 2>They proposed formally removing federal regulations intended to ensure supportive

1661
01:54:32.399 --> 01:54:36.880
<v Speaker 2>foster placements for LGBTQ children. Following a court decision that

1662
01:54:37.000 --> 01:54:40.720
<v Speaker 2>struck down the rule last year. Foster holmes could soon

1663
01:54:40.800 --> 01:54:47.239
<v Speaker 2>reject LGBTQ plus children after Donald Trump's administration proposed a

1664
01:54:47.279 --> 01:54:52.239
<v Speaker 2>new rule that would strip protections in places. Twenty twenty four,

1665
01:54:52.840 --> 01:54:56.159
<v Speaker 2>the Administration of Children and Families, in a Notice of

1666
01:54:56.279 --> 01:55:01.119
<v Speaker 2>proposed rule making, announced it will remove requirements ensuring placement

1667
01:55:01.439 --> 01:55:04.399
<v Speaker 2>in foster care for children who self identify with an

1668
01:55:04.399 --> 01:55:08.479
<v Speaker 2>alternative sexual orientation or self identity as something other than

1669
01:55:08.560 --> 01:55:12.920
<v Speaker 2>their sex. The agency operates under the direction of HHS

1670
01:55:12.960 --> 01:55:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Junior. Public comments on the proposed

1671
01:55:18.079 --> 01:55:21.760
<v Speaker 2>rule change will continue to be collected until April sixth

1672
01:55:22.840 --> 01:55:27.039
<v Speaker 2>I would strongly advise people to weigh in on that.

1673
01:55:27.960 --> 01:55:33.119
<v Speaker 2>It's gross. Always will do that's gross. Yeah, well, I

1674
01:55:33.119 --> 01:55:35.720
<v Speaker 2>mean they want to take us right back to the

1675
01:55:35.800 --> 01:55:39.880
<v Speaker 2>days of conversion therapy and good old exorcisms and you know,

1676
01:55:40.840 --> 01:55:43.720
<v Speaker 2>all the stuff that we know doesn't work, and they

1677
01:55:43.720 --> 01:55:47.600
<v Speaker 2>want us staying in the closet and killing ourselves, and

1678
01:55:47.680 --> 01:55:51.000
<v Speaker 2>you know all that they were happy, and so let's

1679
01:55:51.000 --> 01:55:53.880
<v Speaker 2>torture the kids in the foster k let's really go

1680
01:55:53.960 --> 01:56:02.359
<v Speaker 2>after the most vulnerable of the most vulnerable. This one,

1681
01:56:02.600 --> 01:56:07.000
<v Speaker 2>this one feels like overreached that I would imagine we'll

1682
01:56:07.039 --> 01:56:15.079
<v Speaker 2>have swift backlash. Oh yeah, this jackass Kentucky state lawmakers

1683
01:56:15.359 --> 01:56:22.359
<v Speaker 2>are considering an amendment that would strip state funding for

1684
01:56:22.520 --> 01:56:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Dolly Parton's Imagination Library. We write it, Dawn. Yeah, they

1685
01:56:32.079 --> 01:56:35.600
<v Speaker 2>don't want to pay for the program that provides free

1686
01:56:35.600 --> 01:56:39.039
<v Speaker 2>books to children from birth to age five. I guess

1687
01:56:39.720 --> 01:56:44.840
<v Speaker 2>they aren't staying quite dumb enough in conduct. I don't know. Yeah,

1688
01:56:45.840 --> 01:56:49.880
<v Speaker 2>they're considering a change to how the Imagination Library is funded.

1689
01:56:50.479 --> 01:56:55.479
<v Speaker 2>The program provides children free age appropriate books each month

1690
01:56:56.319 --> 01:57:01.159
<v Speaker 2>from birth to age five. You know, to fire reading.

1691
01:57:01.359 --> 01:57:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Fuck them children reading books? Yep. I mean it's in

1692
01:57:04.720 --> 01:57:06.159
<v Speaker 2>line with everything else they do.

1693
01:57:08.560 --> 01:57:11.359
<v Speaker 3>I think about the joy of reading that was instilled

1694
01:57:11.520 --> 01:57:13.159
<v Speaker 3>in me in that age range.

1695
01:57:13.720 --> 01:57:16.720
<v Speaker 2>Mm hm, and they want to deprive children of that.

1696
01:57:17.039 --> 01:57:22.680
<v Speaker 2>So in January, Democratic Senator Cassie Chambers Armstrong filed a

1697
01:57:22.760 --> 01:57:25.720
<v Speaker 2>joint resolution in the Senate with the goal of finding

1698
01:57:25.760 --> 01:57:30.199
<v Speaker 2>ways to increase participation in the program. Get more kids

1699
01:57:30.199 --> 01:57:35.720
<v Speaker 2>reading right, get the books in their hands right. However,

1700
01:57:36.239 --> 01:57:42.600
<v Speaker 2>an amendment filed in early March by Republican Senator Michael

1701
01:57:42.920 --> 01:57:47.439
<v Speaker 2>Nemis would prohibit the state general Fund from being used

1702
01:57:47.800 --> 01:57:56.720
<v Speaker 2>to fund the Imagination Library. Why this is not even

1703
01:57:56.760 --> 01:58:02.199
<v Speaker 2>a partisan issue, it's children reading books. Kentucky Democratic Party

1704
01:58:02.279 --> 01:58:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Chair Coleman Eldridge. So this is approaching comic book levels

1705
01:58:07.039 --> 01:58:11.039
<v Speaker 2>of cartoon villainry for real, though, Why on earth would

1706
01:58:11.079 --> 01:58:16.279
<v Speaker 2>Senate Republicans defund an imagination library program started by Dolly

1707
01:58:16.560 --> 01:58:21.039
<v Speaker 2>Parton that helps inspire a love of reading for Kentucky kids.

1708
01:58:21.680 --> 01:58:23.199
<v Speaker 3>There's literally nothing bad there.

1709
01:58:23.720 --> 01:58:26.479
<v Speaker 2>There are twenty one states that have opted into this program,

1710
01:58:26.520 --> 01:58:30.279
<v Speaker 2>including our neighbors in Tennessee, West Virginia, and Missouri. This

1711
01:58:30.359 --> 01:58:34.079
<v Speaker 2>is not partisan. This is about our Kentucky children getting

1712
01:58:34.079 --> 01:58:37.960
<v Speaker 2>a book every month to help them dream big, expand

1713
01:58:38.000 --> 01:58:42.720
<v Speaker 2>their minds, and ensure they show up to elementary school

1714
01:58:42.800 --> 01:58:44.079
<v Speaker 2>able to read.

1715
01:58:45.239 --> 01:58:47.439
<v Speaker 3>Y'all going to fuck around and piss off Dolly Parton,

1716
01:58:47.439 --> 01:58:49.840
<v Speaker 3>and I'm just gonna sit back and watch what happens

1717
01:58:49.840 --> 01:58:50.079
<v Speaker 3>to you.

1718
01:58:51.119 --> 01:58:56.880
<v Speaker 2>The governor, who is Bashir, who is a Democrat, was

1719
01:58:56.920 --> 01:59:02.479
<v Speaker 2>asked about the resolution. It gets our youngest children books regularly.

1720
01:59:02.600 --> 01:59:06.840
<v Speaker 2>It encourages parents or caregivers to read to our children,

1721
01:59:07.159 --> 01:59:10.359
<v Speaker 2>and we know the more you read to your young children,

1722
01:59:10.479 --> 01:59:16.239
<v Speaker 2>the better they start in their educational journey. Yep. He

1723
01:59:16.319 --> 01:59:20.279
<v Speaker 2>also said that if Senator Nemus amendment stands, it will

1724
01:59:20.359 --> 01:59:23.960
<v Speaker 2>cause the program to collapse. It's a pretty simple question.

1725
01:59:24.039 --> 01:59:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Do you want all kids in the Commonwealth regularly sent

1726
01:59:26.840 --> 01:59:29.680
<v Speaker 2>to them to read or not? I think it's a

1727
01:59:29.680 --> 01:59:35.439
<v Speaker 2>pretty simple question. Yeah. Now comments receive so far, I'm

1728
01:59:35.439 --> 01:59:43.439
<v Speaker 2>thinking that's a bridge too far. Yeah, don't you.

1729
01:59:41.800 --> 01:59:46.520
<v Speaker 3>You're working with children reading and Dolly Parton and Dolly Parton,

1730
01:59:46.720 --> 01:59:47.119
<v Speaker 3>it's like.

1731
01:59:47.119 --> 01:59:51.720
<v Speaker 2>That can't go over well in Kentucky, right, I'm saying,

1732
01:59:52.279 --> 01:59:54.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what the what the.

1733
01:59:54.239 --> 01:59:59.039
<v Speaker 3>What Dolly Parton, who is arguably, i mean, like, the

1734
01:59:59.079 --> 02:00:01.800
<v Speaker 3>most beloved celebrity in the world.

1735
02:00:02.119 --> 02:00:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Right, what what is next? Killing puppies on the state

1736
02:00:06.199 --> 02:00:08.920
<v Speaker 2>capitol steps? Like? What? What? What else can you do?

1737
02:00:09.000 --> 02:00:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Make the children watch your drown kittens?

1738
02:00:11.039 --> 02:00:16.880
<v Speaker 3>What seriously make the children drown the kittens?

1739
02:00:17.000 --> 02:00:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, make them do it? There you go, but name

1740
02:00:19.640 --> 02:00:25.840
<v Speaker 2>them first, name them? What the hell? What's wrong with

1741
02:00:25.880 --> 02:00:30.800
<v Speaker 2>these people? If that is not syphilis going on, check,

1742
02:00:35.560 --> 02:00:36.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure what is.

1743
02:00:36.760 --> 02:00:42.279
<v Speaker 3>If that is not syphilis?

1744
02:00:42.279 --> 02:00:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh fuck it? Duck. So some jack ass said the

1745
02:00:45.680 --> 02:00:47.560
<v Speaker 2>target boycott was over.

1746
02:00:47.880 --> 02:00:50.399
<v Speaker 3>I know, and we were like, who are we don't know?

1747
02:00:50.479 --> 02:00:54.199
<v Speaker 2>How right? That's what I heard, swiftly like who is he?

1748
02:00:54.720 --> 02:00:56.840
<v Speaker 2>And who the hell? And the women who started the

1749
02:00:56.920 --> 02:01:00.039
<v Speaker 2>damn boycott in the first place? Went what right? So?

1750
02:01:00.199 --> 02:01:02.840
<v Speaker 3>Jamal Bryan, who is the pastor of a prominent metro

1751
02:01:02.920 --> 02:01:07.560
<v Speaker 3>Atlanta mega church, said last week that the campaign to

1752
02:01:07.960 --> 02:01:11.279
<v Speaker 3>boycott Target was officially concluding.

1753
02:01:11.680 --> 02:01:13.600
<v Speaker 2>And who are you to say so, sir?

1754
02:01:14.399 --> 02:01:17.319
<v Speaker 3>Allegedly he was in the room with the women when

1755
02:01:17.359 --> 02:01:20.640
<v Speaker 3>the original plan for the boycott happened. So I guess

1756
02:01:21.039 --> 02:01:23.680
<v Speaker 3>he decided they're done now, right? He decided, Oh he's

1757
02:01:23.720 --> 02:01:24.119
<v Speaker 3>the leader?

1758
02:01:25.119 --> 02:01:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh? So.

1759
02:01:26.279 --> 02:01:31.640
<v Speaker 3>Minneapolis organizers that include doctor Nakima, Levy Armstrong, Monique Colors,

1760
02:01:31.680 --> 02:01:35.880
<v Speaker 3>Dody and Jaylani Hussein said the Atlanta based pastor, who

1761
02:01:35.920 --> 02:01:39.800
<v Speaker 3>previously led what he called a forty day fast, does

1762
02:01:39.840 --> 02:01:43.079
<v Speaker 3>not speak for the movement. They also say that while

1763
02:01:43.159 --> 02:01:47.479
<v Speaker 3>other efforts have garnered national attention, the Target boycott originated

1764
02:01:47.840 --> 02:01:52.880
<v Speaker 3>in Minnesota. We stood for us and with the community,

1765
02:01:53.000 --> 02:01:56.800
<v Speaker 3>Levy Armstrong said at a news conference Wednesday. We speak

1766
02:01:56.880 --> 02:02:00.119
<v Speaker 3>for us and we will never sell out our community

1767
02:02:00.119 --> 02:02:03.680
<v Speaker 3>for crumbs or a seat at Target's corrupt table. So

1768
02:02:03.720 --> 02:02:06.640
<v Speaker 3>we are asking people to continue to double down and

1769
02:02:06.720 --> 02:02:11.840
<v Speaker 3>hold Target accountable. The boycott continues, and that's basically it.

1770
02:02:12.000 --> 02:02:17.039
<v Speaker 3>There Like the resounding response is like I don't.

1771
02:02:16.840 --> 02:02:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Give a fuck what he says. Nobody.

1772
02:02:19.000 --> 02:02:22.920
<v Speaker 3>No, we are not going back to Target because they

1773
02:02:22.960 --> 02:02:25.479
<v Speaker 3>haven't changed right their behavior.

1774
02:02:26.520 --> 02:02:27.000
<v Speaker 2>They have not.

1775
02:02:27.720 --> 02:02:31.600
<v Speaker 3>But see, here's the part that pissed me off royally.

1776
02:02:32.199 --> 02:02:36.640
<v Speaker 3>Because he came out publicly in his little suit in

1777
02:02:36.680 --> 02:02:39.479
<v Speaker 3>front of a camera. People were like, oh, a black

1778
02:02:39.560 --> 02:02:43.039
<v Speaker 3>man said something in earnest about what black people are doing.

1779
02:02:43.119 --> 02:02:44.680
<v Speaker 3>He must speak for all of them, because like I

1780
02:02:44.720 --> 02:02:48.159
<v Speaker 3>saw a fucking Newsweek, I saw Bloomberg, I saw Forbes

1781
02:02:48.399 --> 02:02:49.479
<v Speaker 3>all repeating this shit.

1782
02:02:50.079 --> 02:02:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh the boycott is over.

1783
02:02:52.199 --> 02:02:56.680
<v Speaker 3>They did the fuck it is so fuck what you

1784
02:02:56.760 --> 02:03:01.039
<v Speaker 3>heard is basically the main salient point of this whole thing.

1785
02:03:01.600 --> 02:03:04.319
<v Speaker 2>In an interview with the Associated Press on March, third,

1786
02:03:04.399 --> 02:03:09.159
<v Speaker 2>Target CEO Michael Fidelki acknowledged the boycotts have had an

1787
02:03:09.199 --> 02:03:13.319
<v Speaker 2>impact on targets declining sales. You betcher ass they have.

1788
02:03:13.880 --> 02:03:16.159
<v Speaker 2>It was one of the things that impacted our sales.

1789
02:03:16.560 --> 02:03:19.680
<v Speaker 2>And so we know we've got trust to win back

1790
02:03:19.680 --> 02:03:22.880
<v Speaker 2>with guests, and we'll be focusing on doing it. Uh huh.

1791
02:03:23.279 --> 02:03:26.039
<v Speaker 2>There's no easy button to win back trust, but we'll

1792
02:03:26.039 --> 02:03:30.720
<v Speaker 2>do the work. The work means bringing back to EI right.

1793
02:03:31.119 --> 02:03:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Acknowledging the importance of diversity, right, not selling out your employees,

1794
02:03:36.239 --> 02:03:39.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean. And they were always known as a progressive

1795
02:03:39.960 --> 02:03:42.800
<v Speaker 2>company and a good place to work, right, a place

1796
02:03:42.840 --> 02:03:48.000
<v Speaker 2>that celebrated, you know, diverse peoples and gave them a

1797
02:03:48.039 --> 02:03:52.760
<v Speaker 2>respectful workplace. And then they said, nope, never mind, never mind,

1798
02:03:52.880 --> 02:03:56.600
<v Speaker 2>just kidding, yep, fuck that. We don't have to do that.

1799
02:03:56.680 --> 02:03:59.199
<v Speaker 2>Trump said, we don't have to be decent anymore. Right,

1800
02:03:59.279 --> 02:04:01.399
<v Speaker 2>that's what started us. So we ain't gonna well and

1801
02:04:01.479 --> 02:04:02.479
<v Speaker 2>ain't nothing changed.

1802
02:04:02.560 --> 02:04:07.840
<v Speaker 3>So who is exactly who dis just because one negro

1803
02:04:08.000 --> 02:04:11.039
<v Speaker 3>says something, the rest of us supposed to follow suit.

1804
02:04:11.119 --> 02:04:12.800
<v Speaker 3>It don't work that way. Sorry, you ain't.

1805
02:04:12.640 --> 02:04:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Jesse, It never has.

1806
02:04:14.520 --> 02:04:15.159
<v Speaker 3>Jesse's dead.

1807
02:04:15.199 --> 02:04:19.359
<v Speaker 2>And even then, you know.

1808
02:04:19.479 --> 02:04:23.520
<v Speaker 3>Come on, there's a short list of black men who

1809
02:04:23.600 --> 02:04:26.279
<v Speaker 3>can just stand up and say something and we'll go okay.

1810
02:04:26.800 --> 02:04:29.000
<v Speaker 3>And only one of them on the list, in my head,

1811
02:04:29.039 --> 02:04:29.680
<v Speaker 3>is still alive.

1812
02:04:29.760 --> 02:04:36.159
<v Speaker 2>So who you right? Right? That was as quick as

1813
02:04:36.199 --> 02:04:40.039
<v Speaker 2>we could make the cavalcade, and we try. There's a

1814
02:04:40.079 --> 02:04:44.319
<v Speaker 2>lot of tough stuff happening. Truly Republicans, you know, continue

1815
02:04:44.359 --> 02:04:46.479
<v Speaker 2>to lose their ever loving minds. They are doubling and

1816
02:04:46.520 --> 02:04:51.039
<v Speaker 2>tripling down against the trans community, and it is obscene.

1817
02:04:51.199 --> 02:04:54.560
<v Speaker 2>It's obscene. Yeah, I'm going to suggest we take another break,

1818
02:04:54.840 --> 02:04:58.319
<v Speaker 2>can cleanse our palates. When we come back with pop culture,

1819
02:04:59.479 --> 02:05:22.439
<v Speaker 2>we'll be right. Yeah, we're back. We're back. Cack cat

1820
02:05:22.520 --> 02:05:25.840
<v Speaker 2>cat out. The oscars happened, they did.

1821
02:05:26.720 --> 02:05:30.960
<v Speaker 3>We didn't get a chance to watch the full ceremony, No,

1822
02:05:31.079 --> 02:05:33.039
<v Speaker 3>we didn't. We watched what we wanted to watch.

1823
02:05:33.199 --> 02:05:38.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, and clips, which was great. It made me cry, right,

1824
02:05:38.439 --> 02:05:41.319
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have to see all that. Michael B. Jordan's

1825
02:05:41.520 --> 02:05:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Michael B.

1826
02:05:42.119 --> 02:05:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Jordan one for Best Lead Actor for Sinners, of course,

1827
02:05:47.119 --> 02:05:49.920
<v Speaker 3>as he should, because he played not one, not two.

1828
02:05:49.760 --> 02:05:51.479
<v Speaker 2>But three motherfucking characters.

1829
02:05:51.479 --> 02:05:55.520
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was four, No three, it's Smoke, Stack

1830
02:05:55.640 --> 02:05:57.600
<v Speaker 3>back and then Stack as a vampire.

1831
02:05:58.000 --> 02:06:00.479
<v Speaker 2>Oh there was no Smoke as a vampire now, so

1832
02:06:00.520 --> 02:06:05.199
<v Speaker 2>it was three distinct characters that he played. Okay, yeah,

1833
02:06:05.439 --> 02:06:10.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean he did brilliantly, Yeah, brilliantly. So he won.

1834
02:06:10.840 --> 02:06:16.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and Sinners was nominated for an unprecedented number of awards.

1835
02:06:17.319 --> 02:06:21.920
<v Speaker 3>They won some, they won some one Bad Laughter, another

1836
02:06:21.960 --> 02:06:23.600
<v Speaker 3>one Best Picture, which.

1837
02:06:24.399 --> 02:06:27.399
<v Speaker 2>I guess I get it best Picture, but it's almost

1838
02:06:27.479 --> 02:06:30.159
<v Speaker 2>like they wrote it for that. Yeah you know what

1839
02:06:30.159 --> 02:06:34.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean. And yeah, Best Pictures a stretch in my mind.

1840
02:06:34.760 --> 02:06:39.039
<v Speaker 2>I saw it. It was entertaining. Yeah, best Picture, That's

1841
02:06:39.039 --> 02:06:41.840
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I think

1842
02:06:41.960 --> 02:06:43.119
<v Speaker 2>Sinners over.

1843
02:06:43.119 --> 02:06:47.439
<v Speaker 3>That, But I agree again Michael B. Jordan one Best

1844
02:06:47.479 --> 02:06:51.119
<v Speaker 3>Actor for Sinners over Timothy Shallow may ha ha ha

1845
02:06:52.520 --> 02:06:56.560
<v Speaker 3>and his speech right, Leo DiCaprio for One Bad Laughter

1846
02:06:56.600 --> 02:07:01.399
<v Speaker 3>another which you know but anyway, and Paul Thomas Anderson

1847
02:07:01.439 --> 02:07:02.960
<v Speaker 3>won Best Director for.

1848
02:07:03.000 --> 02:07:05.039
<v Speaker 2>One Bad Laughter? Did Sewn Pen win?

1849
02:07:05.680 --> 02:07:08.239
<v Speaker 3>Sean Penn won for Best Supporting.

1850
02:07:08.119 --> 02:07:10.800
<v Speaker 2>You know what, I'll give it tone. Kathy and I

1851
02:07:10.800 --> 02:07:12.319
<v Speaker 2>were talking about that too, as much.

1852
02:07:12.199 --> 02:07:14.760
<v Speaker 3>As over del Roylando though.

1853
02:07:14.800 --> 02:07:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, I know, but that was some like really that

1854
02:07:19.039 --> 02:07:21.640
<v Speaker 2>was some performance. What did del Rey play? Again?

1855
02:07:22.119 --> 02:07:27.760
<v Speaker 3>Del Roylando played the blues musician who played at the

1856
02:07:27.840 --> 02:07:33.399
<v Speaker 3>juke Joint and he gave that really amazing monologue talking

1857
02:07:33.399 --> 02:07:36.960
<v Speaker 3>about like basically like how they tortured and lynched folks,

1858
02:07:37.399 --> 02:07:42.359
<v Speaker 3>and his performance was just inspired. And it was his

1859
02:07:42.399 --> 02:07:46.199
<v Speaker 3>first nomination after fifty years of acting.

1860
02:07:46.439 --> 02:07:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

1861
02:07:49.359 --> 02:07:53.600
<v Speaker 3>Now okay, so yeah, here's my thoughts. I'm not going

1862
02:07:53.680 --> 02:07:56.760
<v Speaker 3>to be grudge Sean Penn his win because he did

1863
02:07:56.800 --> 02:08:00.840
<v Speaker 3>put in work, like he really did create your feelings

1864
02:08:00.840 --> 02:08:02.439
<v Speaker 3>about the film one way or the other. Fight you

1865
02:08:02.479 --> 02:08:04.119
<v Speaker 3>can't deny that he put in work.

1866
02:08:04.239 --> 02:08:05.039
<v Speaker 2>And that's all I'm saying.

1867
02:08:05.079 --> 02:08:07.680
<v Speaker 3>And it's one thing when you have one stellar performance

1868
02:08:07.720 --> 02:08:13.079
<v Speaker 3>up against another stellar performance. And while I am greatly

1869
02:08:13.079 --> 02:08:16.279
<v Speaker 3>disappointed that Del Rolando didn't win, as a lot of people,

1870
02:08:16.359 --> 02:08:23.279
<v Speaker 3>my main criticism is of people's reactions to his reaction

1871
02:08:23.399 --> 02:08:26.600
<v Speaker 3>when he didn't win, because he was He's just sat there,

1872
02:08:27.079 --> 02:08:32.560
<v Speaker 3>stone faced, didn't clap, and people were trying to like

1873
02:08:32.760 --> 02:08:35.000
<v Speaker 3>same thing they did with Angela Bassett when they played

1874
02:08:35.000 --> 02:08:38.279
<v Speaker 3>in her face. It's like trying to say you should

1875
02:08:38.279 --> 02:08:40.840
<v Speaker 3>be grateful to even have the opportunity, you should be

1876
02:08:40.880 --> 02:08:46.239
<v Speaker 3>grateful to be there. You're it's classless and bad manners

1877
02:08:46.359 --> 02:08:50.439
<v Speaker 3>and bad sportsmanship to not applaud and not show, not

1878
02:08:50.920 --> 02:08:55.960
<v Speaker 3>show that you're happy for the person who beat you.

1879
02:08:55.960 --> 02:08:59.600
<v Speaker 2>No, we don't know, we don't know. Non think so No,

1880
02:09:00.079 --> 02:09:02.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't recall that. I mean sometimes the women could

1881
02:09:02.479 --> 02:09:05.239
<v Speaker 2>smile more, But I mean I just don't, you.

1882
02:09:05.119 --> 02:09:10.359
<v Speaker 3>Know, like, stop telling black people how to be, how

1883
02:09:10.399 --> 02:09:16.960
<v Speaker 3>about it? Especially when you're playing in our faces very obviously,

1884
02:09:18.039 --> 02:09:22.399
<v Speaker 3>So you know, that's my whole thing. Del Roy I

1885
02:09:22.640 --> 02:09:27.359
<v Speaker 3>would have preferred he won, but like, don't not give

1886
02:09:27.399 --> 02:09:30.079
<v Speaker 3>him the award and give him shit for not being

1887
02:09:30.159 --> 02:09:30.920
<v Speaker 3>happy about it.

1888
02:09:31.720 --> 02:09:34.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's just bullshit exactly.

1889
02:09:36.159 --> 02:09:41.079
<v Speaker 3>Ryan Coogler did win for Best Original Screenplay, And I

1890
02:09:41.119 --> 02:09:45.319
<v Speaker 3>want to point out again original Screenplay to all these

1891
02:09:45.359 --> 02:09:49.640
<v Speaker 3>motherfuckers who were just saying that he copied from Dusk

1892
02:09:49.680 --> 02:09:52.720
<v Speaker 3>Till Dawn. No, no, no, no no, and no, no, no,

1893
02:09:52.600 --> 02:09:58.319
<v Speaker 3>no no. He was influenced by that film. He said

1894
02:09:58.359 --> 02:10:03.359
<v Speaker 3>so himself. But there is no like from Dust Till

1895
02:10:03.439 --> 02:10:10.119
<v Speaker 3>Dawn and Sinners. The similarities starting to end with we

1896
02:10:10.239 --> 02:10:15.159
<v Speaker 3>start telling a certain narrative, it goes on a journey,

1897
02:10:16.319 --> 02:10:19.239
<v Speaker 3>and then there's a vampire narrative in there as well.

1898
02:10:19.640 --> 02:10:24.079
<v Speaker 3>The differences from Dust Till Dawn was literally two stories

1899
02:10:24.279 --> 02:10:28.399
<v Speaker 3>by two directors that got slapped together and stitched in

1900
02:10:28.439 --> 02:10:31.359
<v Speaker 3>the middle, and all of a sudden, it's a vampire

1901
02:10:31.439 --> 02:10:37.800
<v Speaker 3>story because it starts off with this like criminal caper

1902
02:10:38.720 --> 02:10:44.000
<v Speaker 3>with Quentin Tarantino and George Clooney and they robbed a

1903
02:10:44.039 --> 02:10:46.520
<v Speaker 3>bank and they're on the lamb and they're taking hostages

1904
02:10:46.560 --> 02:10:49.760
<v Speaker 3>and they're killing motherfuckers and they're going they're fleeing to Mexico.

1905
02:10:50.560 --> 02:10:54.520
<v Speaker 3>And you like get into this story. And then they

1906
02:10:54.560 --> 02:10:59.119
<v Speaker 3>get to this bar in Mexico, the Titty Twister, after

1907
02:10:59.159 --> 02:11:04.000
<v Speaker 3>they've kidnapped Juliette Lewis and Harvey Kai Tel and the

1908
02:11:04.119 --> 02:11:06.039
<v Speaker 3>young Asian man whose name I don't know. Then they

1909
02:11:06.079 --> 02:11:08.479
<v Speaker 3>go to this bar called the Titty Twister, and then

1910
02:11:08.720 --> 02:11:11.239
<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden there's vampires. Like that's from.

1911
02:11:11.159 --> 02:11:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Dust till Dawn. Oh that sounds weird.

1912
02:11:14.640 --> 02:11:16.920
<v Speaker 3>It means like it's one of those things like you

1913
02:11:17.039 --> 02:11:20.079
<v Speaker 3>literally went A then B where comes from?

1914
02:11:20.159 --> 02:11:20.399
<v Speaker 2>Right?

1915
02:11:20.479 --> 02:11:26.239
<v Speaker 3>Whereas sinners? There is a whole thread, there's multiple narratives,

1916
02:11:26.239 --> 02:11:29.680
<v Speaker 3>there are weave together, there's no surprise the whole thing.

1917
02:11:29.800 --> 02:11:32.880
<v Speaker 3>You know what's going on. There's seeds being dropped. It

1918
02:11:32.960 --> 02:11:35.600
<v Speaker 3>is very artful and and and some trying to say

1919
02:11:35.600 --> 02:11:38.159
<v Speaker 3>it's not high art. How the fuck can you look

1920
02:11:38.159 --> 02:11:40.520
<v Speaker 3>at that juke joint scene and not say that it's

1921
02:11:40.600 --> 02:11:44.359
<v Speaker 3>high art? Who said random hateful ass motherfuckers.

1922
02:11:45.000 --> 02:11:47.119
<v Speaker 2>Because and that's.

1923
02:11:46.960 --> 02:11:51.640
<v Speaker 3>The other thing they performed I lied to you, yeah,

1924
02:11:51.880 --> 02:11:56.079
<v Speaker 3>on stage at the Oscars, and they recreated the scene

1925
02:11:56.159 --> 02:11:58.439
<v Speaker 3>which I referred to that as the scene.

1926
02:11:59.000 --> 02:12:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and not easy to do live, but they did

1927
02:12:03.000 --> 02:12:07.159
<v Speaker 2>a really good job. They really did. Oh my god,

1928
02:12:07.439 --> 02:12:13.720
<v Speaker 2>the scene. The scene conjures the ancestors, yes, of all

1929
02:12:13.800 --> 02:12:15.399
<v Speaker 2>of the folks who are.

1930
02:12:15.239 --> 02:12:20.880
<v Speaker 3>There, well, it like it encapsulates the message that stayed

1931
02:12:20.880 --> 02:12:24.680
<v Speaker 3>at the beginning that like, sometimes music is so powerful

1932
02:12:24.720 --> 02:12:30.319
<v Speaker 3>that it blurs the edge of the ancestors in the future.

1933
02:12:30.920 --> 02:12:33.319
<v Speaker 3>And that's exactly what happened. So you had folks in

1934
02:12:33.359 --> 02:12:37.479
<v Speaker 3>the jupe joint next to like ancestral African dancers, next

1935
02:12:37.479 --> 02:12:41.319
<v Speaker 3>to like crip walking and twerking and be boys. Yeah,

1936
02:12:42.840 --> 02:12:47.319
<v Speaker 3>and they included like Chinese mask dancers and monkey dancers. Yes,

1937
02:12:47.359 --> 02:12:49.520
<v Speaker 3>because of the Asian folks that were everybody that was

1938
02:12:49.520 --> 02:12:52.399
<v Speaker 3>there was represented. It was so beautiful. Misty Copeland came

1939
02:12:52.399 --> 02:12:55.119
<v Speaker 3>out and performed twelve weeks after her hip surgery. Yes,

1940
02:12:55.279 --> 02:12:57.840
<v Speaker 3>and she did that whole performance on her new hip

1941
02:12:58.920 --> 02:13:00.119
<v Speaker 3>and it was fabulous.

1942
02:13:00.159 --> 02:13:02.960
<v Speaker 2>It really was. That was something to behold.

1943
02:13:03.520 --> 02:13:05.279
<v Speaker 3>And I believe I said to you after we watched

1944
02:13:05.359 --> 02:13:09.640
<v Speaker 3>that that I have a zero percent success rate of

1945
02:13:09.680 --> 02:13:13.439
<v Speaker 3>watching any iteration of that scene without crying my full ahead.

1946
02:13:15.640 --> 02:13:17.079
<v Speaker 3>I cried in the movie theater.

1947
02:13:17.359 --> 02:13:18.000
<v Speaker 2>I cried in.

1948
02:13:17.960 --> 02:13:20.479
<v Speaker 3>Our living room when we watched the movie together. I

1949
02:13:20.600 --> 02:13:21.840
<v Speaker 3>cried when I saw the.

1950
02:13:21.760 --> 02:13:28.239
<v Speaker 2>Oscars Yeah, it's it's a powerful it's so perfect.

1951
02:13:29.399 --> 02:13:32.039
<v Speaker 3>And then not to mention that, but they also incorporated

1952
02:13:32.640 --> 02:13:36.880
<v Speaker 3>not only Miles Kate and the original performer in the film,

1953
02:13:37.479 --> 02:13:46.159
<v Speaker 3>Raphael Sadiq was was performing Shaboozie Brittany Murphy Alice Smith Like.

1954
02:13:46.239 --> 02:13:53.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, yeah, Brittany Murphy. Not Brittany Murphy, Brittany Howard.

1955
02:13:53.840 --> 02:14:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Brittany Howard, right, she really is an ancest I didn't

1956
02:14:03.680 --> 02:14:05.720
<v Speaker 2>see her there, but maybe I didn't squint.

1957
02:14:06.199 --> 02:14:13.359
<v Speaker 3>Brittany Howard, it's who I met. And Buddy Guy was

1958
02:14:13.359 --> 02:14:14.439
<v Speaker 3>was in it?

1959
02:14:14.640 --> 02:14:17.439
<v Speaker 2>Like was he in the But I didn't see Buddy

1960
02:14:17.479 --> 02:14:20.840
<v Speaker 2>Guy on stage at the Oscars? Apparently he was there

1961
02:14:21.279 --> 02:14:24.680
<v Speaker 2>was Yeah, Okay, I didn't see that again Michael watched

1962
02:14:24.720 --> 02:14:26.800
<v Speaker 2>it again because Buddy Guy is in the film.

1963
02:14:26.960 --> 02:14:32.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, like Miles's character basically grows up to be

1964
02:14:32.479 --> 02:14:37.880
<v Speaker 3>Buddy Guy. So it was spectacular and so, you know,

1965
02:14:38.079 --> 02:14:40.159
<v Speaker 3>they didn't win all the things they should have won,

1966
02:14:40.600 --> 02:14:44.239
<v Speaker 3>but I'm glad they won what they did. And Ryan Coogler,

1967
02:14:45.159 --> 02:14:47.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, has once again proven that he is a

1968
02:14:48.000 --> 02:14:53.119
<v Speaker 3>powerhouse artist. And I love that he and Michael B.

1969
02:14:53.239 --> 02:14:56.000
<v Speaker 3>Jordan have their working relationship. They have Michael B. Jordan

1970
02:14:56.039 --> 02:14:59.840
<v Speaker 3>has been in all of Arden Coogler's films, starting with

1971
02:15:00.159 --> 02:15:03.560
<v Speaker 3>way back in Fruitvale Station, which.

1972
02:15:03.399 --> 02:15:05.560
<v Speaker 2>Was so depressing. Yeah it was.

1973
02:15:06.560 --> 02:15:08.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm glad I saw it, But I mean it's one

1974
02:15:08.239 --> 02:15:10.199
<v Speaker 3>of those movies. I'm glad I saw it. It was

1975
02:15:10.319 --> 02:15:12.640
<v Speaker 3>masterfully done. I am never watching that again.

1976
02:15:13.359 --> 02:15:14.119
<v Speaker 2>You mentioned that.

1977
02:15:14.600 --> 02:15:16.760
<v Speaker 3>In fact, I think that's the time only one of

1978
02:15:16.920 --> 02:15:22.760
<v Speaker 3>Ryan Coogler's films that I have only watched once. Actually

1979
02:15:22.800 --> 02:15:27.000
<v Speaker 3>that's not true. I haven't watched uh Wakanda Forever a

1980
02:15:27.079 --> 02:15:31.119
<v Speaker 3>second time yet, but I will. Okay, which I am

1981
02:15:31.159 --> 02:15:33.199
<v Speaker 3>not going to say about Fruitvale Station.

1982
02:15:33.039 --> 02:15:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Now, I know that is Fruitvale Station? Is your what

1983
02:15:38.800 --> 02:15:40.960
<v Speaker 2>is that Beale Street? What is someone that I something

1984
02:15:41.000 --> 02:15:45.319
<v Speaker 2>awful done happen? Oh Women of Brewster Place, Yes, yeah,

1985
02:15:45.760 --> 02:15:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I think that's your Women of Brewster Place. Yeah.

1986
02:15:51.119 --> 02:15:53.119
<v Speaker 3>I actually have so much love in my heart for

1987
02:15:53.119 --> 02:15:55.920
<v Speaker 3>the women, and I just can't watch it with you

1988
02:15:55.960 --> 02:15:57.000
<v Speaker 3>anymore because you ruin it.

1989
02:15:57.399 --> 02:16:03.359
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, something awful happened. It's just you know, it's sad,

1990
02:16:03.479 --> 02:16:05.600
<v Speaker 2>and it just and then it gets sadder and then

1991
02:16:05.720 --> 02:16:07.399
<v Speaker 2>just when you you know, and it's like, oh my god,

1992
02:16:07.640 --> 02:16:10.520
<v Speaker 2>and then I want a perfectly good cul to sat

1993
02:16:11.319 --> 02:16:11.680
<v Speaker 2>I will.

1994
02:16:12.640 --> 02:16:16.199
<v Speaker 3>I will admit I did not realize exactly how fucking

1995
02:16:16.279 --> 02:16:18.800
<v Speaker 3>depressing that series is until I watched it with you.

1996
02:16:19.000 --> 02:16:22.800
<v Speaker 2>I know, because I was like, God, damn right, white

1997
02:16:22.800 --> 02:16:25.119
<v Speaker 2>people pay extra for that ship with the cold is

1998
02:16:25.199 --> 02:16:28.199
<v Speaker 2>saying yes, no, the part that knock it down and

1999
02:16:28.520 --> 02:16:29.720
<v Speaker 2>who's going to clean that up? Yeah?

2000
02:16:29.760 --> 02:16:31.319
<v Speaker 3>The part that took me out was when they had

2001
02:16:31.479 --> 02:16:33.440
<v Speaker 3>brought all the bricks down. You're like, no, who's going

2002
02:16:33.479 --> 02:16:34.239
<v Speaker 3>to clean that up?

2003
02:16:40.879 --> 02:16:48.159
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes? Yeah, my brokenness shines, I guess. But now, Brian,

2004
02:16:48.280 --> 02:16:52.159
<v Speaker 2>I was just like, that's peace right there. Why you

2005
02:16:52.200 --> 02:16:57.600
<v Speaker 2>want to knock that down? Since I keep that keeps

2006
02:16:57.680 --> 02:17:06.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, traffic to a minimum.

2007
02:17:02.520 --> 02:17:05.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean, since we're but that's.

2008
02:17:05.200 --> 02:17:11.120
<v Speaker 2>What they decided to collectively do. Horrible things kept happening.

2009
02:17:11.319 --> 02:17:16.120
<v Speaker 2>Let's knock down the wall. Like why. I still don't

2010
02:17:16.159 --> 02:17:19.520
<v Speaker 2>get it, but it felt like tragedy porn. I mean

2011
02:17:20.040 --> 02:17:26.159
<v Speaker 2>to me, I mean, something done happened. I mean, good.

2012
02:17:25.639 --> 02:17:28.879
<v Speaker 3>Cast, Well that's that's the reason why.

2013
02:17:29.440 --> 02:17:33.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, the cast is wonderful, but it's just sad.

2014
02:17:34.319 --> 02:17:41.319
<v Speaker 3>Paula Kelly, Paula Kelly, Okay, so my favoritest scene, yeah.

2015
02:17:41.159 --> 02:17:44.520
<v Speaker 2>She was Yeah, that's where she was yes, Paula Kelly. Yes.

2016
02:17:44.680 --> 02:17:48.360
<v Speaker 3>My favorite scene in Women of Brewster Place is when

2017
02:17:48.959 --> 02:17:52.799
<v Speaker 3>Paula Kelly, who plays one of the two lesbians, she's

2018
02:17:52.959 --> 02:17:58.239
<v Speaker 3>making her her meat loaf and the old nosey, busy

2019
02:17:58.280 --> 02:18:01.639
<v Speaker 3>body from across the way is looking in her apartment

2020
02:18:02.159 --> 02:18:06.399
<v Speaker 3>and she catches her and she goes on this tirade.

2021
02:18:06.879 --> 02:18:07.959
<v Speaker 3>She's saying, oh, you want.

2022
02:18:07.799 --> 02:18:10.000
<v Speaker 2>To see what I'm doing. I'm making meat loaf.

2023
02:18:10.360 --> 02:18:12.520
<v Speaker 3>You gotta have meat with the meat, and she starts

2024
02:18:12.559 --> 02:18:14.799
<v Speaker 3>throwing all the ingredients out the window with the woman.

2025
02:18:15.840 --> 02:18:22.120
<v Speaker 2>It was quite the scene, yes, very high strung and sad.

2026
02:18:23.479 --> 02:18:26.520
<v Speaker 2>Sad because it was sad. Nothing good happened. I just

2027
02:18:26.559 --> 02:18:29.280
<v Speaker 2>don't know how the hole in the wall made it better.

2028
02:18:30.399 --> 02:18:32.399
<v Speaker 3>It was an act of defiance.

2029
02:18:33.479 --> 02:18:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Again, white people pay extra well to have a dead

2030
02:18:38.600 --> 02:18:41.319
<v Speaker 2>end street. We do, yeah, but that's the thing.

2031
02:18:41.479 --> 02:18:43.920
<v Speaker 3>But they also had the gang standing there at the

2032
02:18:44.000 --> 02:18:46.040
<v Speaker 3>wall and causing.

2033
02:18:45.879 --> 02:18:50.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, and now now they have an egress. They're going

2034
02:18:50.799 --> 02:18:54.079
<v Speaker 2>to go away because they come on because they put

2035
02:18:54.079 --> 02:18:55.639
<v Speaker 2>a hole in the wall and gave them a pile

2036
02:18:55.680 --> 02:18:57.239
<v Speaker 2>of bricks. That's just weaponry.

2037
02:18:58.600 --> 02:19:01.239
<v Speaker 3>This is why I can't watch them to just don't.

2038
02:19:01.079 --> 02:19:05.280
<v Speaker 2>See how it made anything better. That's all.

2039
02:19:05.600 --> 02:19:11.879
<v Speaker 3>Congratulations to Sinners and absolutely Ryan Cooler and Michael B.

2040
02:19:12.000 --> 02:19:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Jordan and Michael B. Jordan there just this was just

2041
02:19:15.879 --> 02:19:18.040
<v Speaker 2>like a follow up. But you know, we've talked about

2042
02:19:18.040 --> 02:19:21.159
<v Speaker 2>the Kennedy Center a few times now and everyone who

2043
02:19:21.239 --> 02:19:23.319
<v Speaker 2>never wants to perform there again, or at least not

2044
02:19:23.440 --> 02:19:30.920
<v Speaker 2>under this administration. Apparently Richard Grinnell is leaving. Ah. Yeah,

2045
02:19:31.319 --> 02:19:35.319
<v Speaker 2>the Kennedy Center loses their house. Faggot. I think that

2046
02:19:35.440 --> 02:19:38.799
<v Speaker 2>might have been the head. No, that was that wasn't

2047
02:19:38.799 --> 02:19:39.120
<v Speaker 2>the house.

2048
02:19:39.200 --> 02:19:40.719
<v Speaker 3>I was going to say he found another house.

2049
02:19:41.280 --> 02:19:48.200
<v Speaker 2>Kennedy Center's president is leaving after tumultuous year.

2050
02:19:48.360 --> 02:19:48.639
<v Speaker 3>Girl.

2051
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the article, of course talks about the wave of

2052
02:19:52.799 --> 02:19:57.040
<v Speaker 2>cancelations and departures and now they're just going to close

2053
02:19:57.079 --> 02:20:00.520
<v Speaker 2>it for two years for a lengthy renovation. And by

2054
02:20:00.559 --> 02:20:03.559
<v Speaker 2>all accounts, the old the new one looks like the

2055
02:20:03.600 --> 02:20:09.440
<v Speaker 2>old one. Right, But apparently we are now promoting the

2056
02:20:09.440 --> 02:20:15.440
<v Speaker 2>head of facilities. Are you serious? Yeah, Matt Flakka, this

2057
02:20:15.920 --> 02:20:21.040
<v Speaker 2>vice president of Facilities Operations. I mean, who better I

2058
02:20:21.040 --> 02:20:24.280
<v Speaker 2>guess to oversee, you know, a renovation, because that's all

2059
02:20:24.280 --> 02:20:27.319
<v Speaker 2>they're going to do there is a renovation, because they

2060
02:20:27.440 --> 02:20:31.479
<v Speaker 2>can't get talent, right, so I guess let's re upholster it.

2061
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're going to start seeing commercials for renting out

2062
02:20:35.360 --> 02:20:36.479
<v Speaker 3>the Kennedy Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Well again two years. So they're closing somewhere around July fourth,

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<v Speaker 2>which is prime time for performances, not where nobody wants

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<v Speaker 2>your space. Let's not forget. There's been months of headlines

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<v Speaker 2>about boycotts by patrons and high profile artists, including Philip Glass.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see Bellaflac, the San Francisco Ballet, the traveling production

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<v Speaker 2>of Hamilton, which was fabulous. Yeah, all that happened under

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<v Speaker 2>the tutelage of mister Grinnell. Yeh, Doug Varone, Yep, yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>No one wants to play with you bitches. Yeah. He

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<v Speaker 2>was trying to get rid of woke programming and refocus

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<v Speaker 2>on more commercial fare that would attract new audiences and donors. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's in conversation with dance programmers. He cited the TV

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<v Speaker 2>show So You Think You Can Dance and Paula Abdul

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<v Speaker 2>as examples of the kind of material he wanted. We

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<v Speaker 2>cannot have unpopular programming that doesn't pay the bills. Uh huh, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, but see all of the people that go

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<v Speaker 3>into so you think you can dance like the guest

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<v Speaker 3>choreographers are the same people who have their own companies

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<v Speaker 3>that they aren't bringing to the Kennedy Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I mean the National Symphony Orchestra. Nope, oh wait.

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<v Speaker 2>They continued to perform there, but often to empty seats,

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<v Speaker 2>scrambling to find substitutes for artists who canceled. He spend

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<v Speaker 2>his time doing that, I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>Orchestra versions of I Wish I was in Dixie don't

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<v Speaker 3>fill a house like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess not. Last week, executive director Gene Davidson announced

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<v Speaker 2>she was leaving, saying she did not see how I

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<v Speaker 2>could be effective as a leader in the current climate.

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<v Speaker 2>M h yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Like things that are good, and no one good wants

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<v Speaker 3>to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly dozens undergre Now, dozens of Kennedy Center employees were

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<v Speaker 2>either fired or quit. The institution increasingly bowed to Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>demands and at times, his cultural preferences. Which there's what

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<v Speaker 2>a funny sentence, What a funny little sentence. The President

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<v Speaker 2>had approved over the selection of honorees for last year's

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<v Speaker 2>Kennedy Center Honors, which he hosted himself. Of course he did.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my yeah, my god. You know. The decision to

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<v Speaker 2>close has also caused an upper among Democrats. Representative Joyce

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<v Speaker 2>Baty of Ohio and ex officio member of the center's board,

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<v Speaker 2>has asked a federal court to block the plan, warning

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<v Speaker 2>that Trump could be planning a surprise demolition of the center.

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<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't pay Yeah, because they like the east wing.

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<v Speaker 3>Did they ever put anything up where he demolished the

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<v Speaker 3>east like?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't Was it still rubble? I think it's still

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<v Speaker 2>essentially rubble. I think yeah. I think he just knocked

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<v Speaker 2>it down and that was that. When Friday, Trump posted

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<v Speaker 2>two renderings of the future Kennedy Center online and said

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<v Speaker 2>that it would be the finest facility of its kind

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere in the world. It already was. It is not clear, however,

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<v Speaker 2>whether performers and audiences will return as enthusiastically much less

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<v Speaker 2>what it will look like after the project is completed.

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<v Speaker 2>It won't be completed, yeah, probably not.

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<v Speaker 3>No one's going to get paid well, and no one's

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<v Speaker 3>going to finish when they're not getting paid.

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<v Speaker 2>He should be in jail if we have mid terms. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you know what.

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<v Speaker 3>Keeps running through my mind when I keep hearing these

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<v Speaker 3>stories and like hearing them use words, and like their

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<v Speaker 3>use of the words.

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<v Speaker 2>Just make no sense.

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<v Speaker 3>There was this episode of the Twilight Zone where this

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<v Speaker 3>guy woke up one day and suddenly like couldn't understand

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<v Speaker 3>anything anyone was saying because everyone just started speaking gibberish

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<v Speaker 3>uh huh. Like this feels exactly like his wife is saying,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, come to downstairs your dinosaurs ready, and she

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<v Speaker 3>meant breakfast, uh huh, And then he's like, what's breakfast

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<v Speaker 3>and she goes it's kind of like.

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<v Speaker 2>A red.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Yeah, it's like that. And by the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the episode, like everyone's saying like the kangaroo Flapjacks are

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<v Speaker 3>raspberrying the white wall tires.

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<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, that sums up the Republican Party about in

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<v Speaker 2>this administration. Yeah yeah. On that note, I don't I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have much more to add, a much more to say, babe,

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<v Speaker 2>So why don't we just head on over to some

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<v Speaker 2>podcast business That sounds like a plan.

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<v Speaker 2>Podcast business over all right, uh huh, it's a lot, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a lot. We love y'all for listening. We do,

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<v Speaker 2>we really really do. Yeah, I'm exhausted now me too.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I need some food and maybe a drink.

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<v Speaker 3>I will not say boo to either of those.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go until next time you've been listening to

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<v Speaker 2>Full Circle the podcast. I am Martha Madrigal and I

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<v Speaker 2>am Charles Tyson Jr. And you were so appreciated. Bye everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>Full Circle is a Never Skurred Productions podcast hosted by

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