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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the old Behave show on pet Life Radio.
I'm your host, Arden Moore. I am so jazz because
with us is the president of the American Veterinary Medical Association.
Her name is doctor Sandra Fay. She's like, Okay, that's cool,
but I really like to help pets. I want to
help the people. And what I also like, and we're
going to dive into, is that you are all about
bringing in the next generation of veterinarians and vettech. So
we'll get into all that. But first of all, officially, welcome.
You are now on the longest running pet podcast on
the planet. I mean, curb your excitement, settle down. You're okay,
it's amazing, it's amazing. Congratulations, Thank you. You know I'm
in Dallas. My producer Mark Winter is in Florida. You
are in the Chicago area right now, right, I am. Yeah,
So mother nature is not nice. We're just going to
say that, and I really need people to understand and
how serious too much heat is to a dog or
a cat heat stroke. And you've got those initials after
your name dBm, so just hit it off. I mean,
can you just give people a few warning signs that
that dog on a walk or the cat in the
window facing east or west is getting a little too
hot and needs our help.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so critical. It is a really important topic.
And I think the key is to know if it's
hot outside for you, it's even hotter for your pet.
And most of our pets are so loyal, right, they'll
follow us anywhere, So it's really important to read the
signs because they may not tell us. Cats are easy.
If you see a cat panting or open mouth breathing,
that's an emergency. Okay, maybe I shouldn't say they're easy,
but the sign is easy. You know, when was the
last time you saw cat pants? You see dogs panting
all the time, but when a cat's panting, it's an emergency.
Speaker 3: Let's go to cats for a minute. Talk about indoor
cats because people think, well I got the acon or whatever,
but cats are sun worshipers. What about where should you
place that little cat tree or the cat perch. Why no,
no on east west windows.
Speaker 4: Right, I mean, because it still can get hot, and
you want to make sure they're in an area that
is not necessarily directly to the sun. Make sure they
have water, because they can overheat inside and it can
be really, really scary. You just want to make sure
that they have access to shade at any time. We
don't think a cat's set often, right, We think more
of dogs. But it's critical.
Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about our bodies versus a cat and
dog body. Because they don't sweat like we do. You know,
they don't have skin pores all over their bodies, right,
how do they keep from getting too hot? What's the
paws and the panting purposes?
Speaker 4: Yep, yeah exactly. I mean that's how they sweat. They pant,
they release the heat, they release the air out and pause.
They will they will kind of sweat in their paws.
So if you see excessive panting, if you see you know,
if you even see some moisture on their paws, bring
them inside, Bring them inside or get them into the shade.
Also knowing that if they are overheating, that's a good
spot to really start cooling them off at their paws.
So get their paws cool, get them damp. You never
want to cool them off too quickly because I actually
can constrict the blood vessels and make things more challenging
to cool them off. But if we think of the reverse, right,
So if they're panting showing the heat from their paws,
that's a good place to come off.
Speaker 3: Well. I teach pet first aid. I'm a master instructor,
and we're always working with er and critical cara venarians
and now we got the AVMA president here in the house.
One thing we teach them is a slogan I created.
It's called ice ice not nice baby. So why is
it dangerous to take a hot dog and give them
a pack of ice on their body or give them
ice cubes? Why should they just have cool water?
Speaker 4: Yeah, because cooling them too quickly can cause their blood
vessels to constry and that makes it even harder for
them to cool down. So you don't want to cool
them too quickly. You want to apply cool but not
cold water or wet towels to their bodies and paws
and fan them just to help encourage the evaporation. And
that also helps with the cooling process.
Speaker 3: Have you heard about the new study that the University
of Pennsylvania. A vetinarian I just came with the AKC's
Kennel Health Foundation. She talked about the four different ways
that you can cool down a pet, and one of
them was a voluntary head dunk in seventy degree water.
Have you heard about that?
Speaker 4: I have.
Speaker 3: I would advise it, That's why I'm asking the press.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't advise that. I think that can be
really scary to a dog or cat, and I would
worry that you would get fit or scratched. So I think,
you know, do what you can. But if you're worried,
bring it to the vet. They'll put an ivy catheter in,
they'll cool them down the right way.
Speaker 3: And what color are gums when they're not healthy and
it's getting too hot out? What should we do?
Speaker 4: Flip the lip so it could be right bright bright
think or in an extreme pale. So I think the
good thing there is just periodically flip your dog or
cat's lip and get an idea of what's normal for them.
And then if it's either of the you know, super
super bright, super red or pale, definitely you need to
bring him into your Venarian.
Speaker 3: Now, you mentioned before we went on the air, you've
got a little collection of pets. Tell us about You've
got a Bernie Bernie's Mountain Dog mix and a Great
Pyrenees yep, and a tuxedo cat, a horse of course
rabbit duty. So for the dogs and the cat, you
want to shout out their names because they are on
the longest running pet podcast on the planet, and I
know they're tuning in.
Speaker 4: So I have Toby and he's the burner, okay, and
short for Tubble, her own chocolate because he's a Swiss
dog mine. And then Riggy is the Great Pyrenees and
he's our bottle fed baby, so if he was from
a rescue, mom ran out of milk so we bottle
fed him. He's trouble. And then Raffi is short for
Rafael and adult because we're a big tennis family.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So for your dogs, they got some
hair on them. I mean, what do you do personally
to keep them cool? Because they do need to walk.
They need the exercise to sniff and check.
Speaker 4: Right, So I walk them early in the morning or
late at night. Okay, it seems too hot to walk
them we play inside. There's lots of different things you
can do inside. You can do hide and seek, you
can make a little obstacle courses, so there's plenty of
things that you can do inside to get their energy out.
If I'm walking outside, I really try and avoid those
hot paved areas because we worry about their paws. They
can blister, they can burn, and it's it's super painful.
Speaker 3: Now I like to tell people how to be a
mutt diiver, so you know, if you don't have a
vet nearby or your first aid kit. People have poop bags, right,
so what do you think about some ways to use
a poop bag as a makeshift water bowl. I mean,
not with a poop in it, it's not floating.
Speaker 4: Right, bicycles absolutely, I mean, always keep water with you
and something to put it in for them to drink
out of. And some will drink right out of the
bottle if it's a big enough bottle, or if you
have enough to pour where you're not worried about wasting.
But yeah, you could take a plastic bag and kind
of fold the ends over and sure or hold it
with you know, if it's got handles, like a shopping bag.
Hold it and filled with water and have them drink
out of it. Absolutely anything to get that water in them.
That's are a little harder to get to drink, right.
Cats are harder with everything then water. At least the
body's getting cooled down the air conditioning, right exactly. Yeah,
another thing I wanted to mention you asked how I
keep my dogs cool. People often think that shaving these
hairy dogs helps. Yeah, and it doesn't. You know, they
have a double coat for a reason. It helps them
the summer and it helps in the winter. So shaving
actually gets rid of some of the normal protective mechanisms
that the body has in play that we want them
to have. So do not shave them. You can brush them,
keep them groomed, keep that undercoat, you know, just keep
as much of the loose hair out, but do not
shake them.
Speaker 3: All right, Hey, pet pals, we're speaking with doctor Sandra Fay.
She is the president of the American Veterinary Medical Association.
And I know people are curious as a cat to
find out. I was trying to do a little homework
on you. And you grew up in a family that
moved around a lot. Were you in the protection witness
program or something. But what was going on that you
your parents are from Switzerland and then you came here
and you just kept seeing all of America.
Speaker 4: It sure felt like it. So, yeah, my parents got
married and Switzerland came here after they got married, and
I think until I was about seventh grade, the longest
we stayed in one area was three years. So oh,
I'm sure Maine, Iowa, Illinois, Ohio, then Illinois and Illinois
is where we stayed. So I think they just wanted
to see the country. And I don't know, so not military,
not witness protection, just wanted to see different things. And
I always say that's the main reason I became a
Venarian because we always had a dog and a cat
and they were my buddies growing up. That human animal bond,
it is a real thing.
Speaker 3: Who were your childhood pets because they were your one
constant when you were on the go literally exactly.
Speaker 4: They had a black cat named Mooky and Mooky okai
e yeah, and then we always had German shepherds. But
the longest, the one you know, that I was with
the longest was Mikey.
Speaker 3: Mikey and Mookie. That sounds like a TV. Yeah, So
Some people instantly know when they're younger what they're going
to do when they grow up. Some people go through
a lot. I'm betting you're the former than the latter.
What's the deal with you and the attraction to veterinary medicine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely always wanted to be a veterinarian. But interestingly enough,
I just gave a presentation to a bunch of first
year vetinary students and I said, I still don't know
what I want to be when I grow up, because
there's so many different things you can do as a vetinarian.
I first started thinking research, then I thought maybe exotics,
and then private practice, and you know, obviously all my
work with AVMA kind of morphed into that. So there's
so many different avenues that we can take with this profession.
And we'll see, we'll.
Speaker 3: See where I end up. All right, Hey, we're going
to take a quick break, and when we come back,
doctor Fay, the president of the AVMA, is going to
help us learn a little bit about disaster prep because
lord knows, we've had some nasty wallops by mother Nature
all over this country. So everybody sit stay, we'll be
right back.
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Speaker 3: Back to the old Behave Show on Tetlife Radio. I'm
your host, Ardenmore. I've got a fellow Midwesterner in the house.
I grew up in Crownpoint, Indiana, near Chicago. I don't
know anything about Indiana except the Fever, which is a
great basketball team. But got Chicago shows WGN everything, so
we have that in common. And my parents a also
graduated from the University of Illinois, did not know that
that's awesome. I went to Purdue.
Speaker 4: Oh boy, so I can't say, ay, Ali, I'll have
to say what boiler up?
Speaker 3: Oh, boiler up?
Speaker 4: Boiler up?
Speaker 3: All right here in Texas, in this Curville. You know,
you know what happened with Camp Mystic, with the floods
on the Guadalupa River, But then you've got fires in California.
Our world is up on its end. We need people
like you to help us have a game plan. And
so what an overview? I mean, I don't think there's
any place in the country that's got this perfect safe
weather anymore. What's your thoughts?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was just going to say that this
is for everybody, So don't think just because you're not
in Texas, California, North Carolina, any of these places. And
our hearts go out to all of those people. It's horrible,
it's really really tragic. But don't think because you're not
there that this doesn't apply to you, because it could
be a house fire, God forbid, or it could be
a tornado. Like you said, there's no area that's safe.
We all have to be prepared, and I think that's
the biggest thing plan ahead. Be prepared.
Speaker 3: So be prepared. Give us some specifics. I live in
Dallas with two cats and three dogs and with my spouse,
and I think I'm prepared. But what do we need
to do? We got a small medium, a large dog,
We got two indoor cats. Uh oh, Mother Nature's hitting us.
We should already have a plan right exactly.
Speaker 4: So we don't know what kind of disaster is going
to hit. So we want to make sure that your home,
your yard, your property, everything is super secure in case
we've got that tornado or hurricane or something that could
loosen up things. So we want to make sure your
area is super secure. You want to make sure that
your pet has a microchip. This is key because when
they're afraid, they run, and they don't always run towards you,
and so you really want to make sure they're chipped
and will be identifiable. You know, collars are great. I
would have a collar because it does help, but you
can't count on that because it could falloff. You'll also
want to make sure that you have an evacuation kit ready. Okay,
always make sure you have you know, about to a
week's worth of food, a couple weeks worth of medicine
if they're on regular medicine.
Speaker 3: And should this kit. What's a good kit container you
would think we could just grab when we take the
dog or cats out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a bag, a duffel something, a lot of the carriers,
because you want to have a good carrier, especially if
you have a cat or a revit or a small dog.
Have some container, you know, storage space in them, but
it's probably not enough. So make sure you have food, water, medicine,
a bowl. Right, we talked about the plastic bag that
works if it has to well a baseball camp, yeah, exactly.
And then you're the expert on the first aid. But
first aid kit never a bad idea to have some
antibiotic ointment, some banished material, some scissors, some gloves, some
alcohol to cleanse, a washcloth, a towel, you know, things
like that if it's a cat, litter pan. And then
I have a copy of the identification papers, proof of
ownership if you can, medical records, medication, structured instructions, all
within that. And then also have an extra photo of
your pets so that if you do get separated, you
can I like share that with people, share it on
social media. Put waterproof signs up in places if they
should get lost. So think of what you use on
a daily basis, make sure you have that, and think
of what will help if there's an injury. So, like
we said, some banch material things like that.
Speaker 3: Well, you live in the Midwest and you can get tornadoes,
you can get snowstorms, you can get hot you can
get rain. We do drills. We have a walk in
closet off our master bedroom and we take the whole
We calm the furry Brady bunch. We take the gang
into the walk in closet and the kiddies are in
the carriers, the dogs are on their leashes, and we
try to time it. We've got it now to less
than four minutes to get everybody.
Speaker 4: That's amazing.
Speaker 3: But there's also water in there, there's food, and there's
a bottle of lying there but that's not for the pets.
And there's a battery operated radio. Okay, okay, So what
do you think fantastic? I think that's fantastic if you're
in an area well, you should also have an evacuation
plan to leave right. Make sure you know that they
accept pets, so to a hotel, make sure that the
pets can come with you, never leave them behind.
Speaker 4: Obviously, this becomes much more difficult with large animals, with horses, cows, whatnot.
I mean you're challenging. You have a horse, of course,
what's your plan? His name is Ace.
Speaker 3: Oh that's cool his name.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a good boy. He's a big copy dog.
He probably would follow me. So knowing that I have
a trailer that I could evacuate him. Knowing a lot
of people in the area and where else they could
house him really is helpful. So if you have livestock,
it's probably really challenging to have enough to you know,
trailers to escort them out. So make connections in your community,
you know, if it's a flood and you need to
evacuate them from your area, get to know your neighbors
so you can have a safe spot for them to put.
Make sure you have other options and try and think
of as many scenarios as possible. I know that can
be really challenging. The livestock, the large animal, it's a
little tougher one.
Speaker 3: Thing I know that I keep on me something on
a keychain that says that if something happens to me,
I'm in the hospital or six feet under or whatever,
that the first responders know that there are now three
dogs and two cats at my home. Flip it over
and there is a name of my sister and another
backup number. How important do you think it is to
have some sort of thing that alerts the first responders
that if you've got to hurt in a car accident
or something, no one knows that these dogs are. They're
doing kegels right now because they really got to go
to the bathroom where they're hungry. Is there anything you
would recommend that would help people that they don't think
about that going to the grocery store, going to the
movies and then something happens. What would you suggest?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a fantastic idea having that on you,
and then also having a sign in your house so
that if the first responders come, they will know what
to look for, who to look for, and not just
the humans in the house.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, many of those folks like trying them to be
instructors in first aid. A lot of first responders they
all got pets.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Now it's so important. There's such a huge
part of our They are a family, right and so
we need to make sure we can keep them as
safe as possible.
Speaker 3: Well, for the last segment, I want to let people
know a little bit about your view as being the
president of the AVMA and what your platform is and
I know that I want to make sure you are
the chief Veterinary Officer for National Veterinary Associates. I don't
know what that means, but I do know what you're
helping the next generation. Can you talk a little bit
about why did you want to be president of the
ABMA and what's your mission? I know it's a one year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so wow. The why is always the hardest question
is something I've always done. As a student, I was
president of the National Student AVMA and so representing the
US and Canada, and that really instilled in me the
desire to be as involved as possible. There are so
many things on a daily basis in our legislature, national
state that affect our animals, affect our food supply, and
we need to speak up because a lot of things,
you know, the intent is good, but the understanding may
not be there. So it's our job to really educate
people on why why it's important. And so that's a
huge reason. And the profession has given me so much.
With the people I've met, the animals that I've met,
I can't imagine not having such I mean, it's just amazing,
and I want to give back, and a lot of
that's helping the younger generations. So I started with the
student AVMA. I still help with the student AVMA. They're wonderful.
It's so exciting and inspiring to see the next generation
of Venarians. That's huge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you started something called a pilot mentorship program. Yeah,
it sounds like it's got a little more hands on
than just you sit in there, tell them here's what
to do young whipper snappers.
Speaker 4: So about that, because it sounds like it's very practical. Yeah,
so that's in my work hat not AVMA. Okay, but
AVMA has a mentionship.
Speaker 3: You have too many colors, you wear too many colors
in the pint world.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so everybody should have more than one mentor.
I think it's essential. And your mentor has changed based
on your stage in life and what and what you're
going through, and so every that new venarian should have
a mentor in the hospital. But the program we created
our actual mentors from outside the hospital coming in and
helping with surgery, with dentistry, maybe it's exam room skills,
and just continuing to develop their knowledge, and it's just
another person for them to connect to and someone whose
sole job is mentoring. So when you're in the clinic
and your boss is your mentor, your boss has twenty
other things, well probably more than twenty things to do,
and therefore it can be hard for them to give
you the time that you really want. So this independent person,
it's all through my job and through NVA, the corporation
that I work for. They come in and they just
are able to spend that one on one quality time
and help give them the skills that they need. And
it's technically only a one year program, but for many
I just had a call on Saturday from my mentor
from twenty one, so four years ago, or mentee my team. Yeah, yeah,
but mentorship is huge with AVMA as well. I'm honored
this year to give President's Award to three individuals and
they're all my mentors, some from my VET school days
and some more recent and nice, It's wonderful.
Speaker 3: It's called building a legacy and helping pets. Right, absolutely, absolutely.
We can't let you go without asking two silly questions.
Oh you're on the old behavi show. Okay, so to
survive so far? If you could come back as a cat? Okay, okay,
what quality would you just embrace that you don't are
not able to do because you're just a two legged
human now, but you come back as a cool indoor cat.
What is something that you would like to have a trait?
Speaker 4: So I immediately thought of one. I don't know if
i'd necessarily want that if I were a human.
Speaker 3: Okay, No, this is you as a cat?
Speaker 4: What quality I guess whether okay, to be empowered? Well,
I guess I want this as a human to be empowered.
My cat is often the boss of the two hundred
pounds beasts that we have, and it's Roderill.
Speaker 3: Yes, okay.
Speaker 4: It started when he was a kitten. He would push
them away from their food bowls and eat their food
and they would take it. So now every once in
a while they do fight back, and it's a fight.
It's not fight. They're chasing each other. But they all
sleep together and they're great, but to be problems. Yeah,
your side doesn't matter. You know, your strength is internal.
So that's that's what I would want to make sure
I had.
Speaker 3: And we're going to ask you if you could be
a dog breath, what would it be? And why this
is fun? Come on, you don't want to just be
all serious all the time. I know, I just it's hard.
I mean, I would be a golden Retriever because I'm
kind of goofy.
Speaker 4: But you know, I guess I probably so I would.
I'm gonna say, Burner.
Speaker 3: Who Bernie's mountain dog? Okay, we had one?
Speaker 4: Yeah, at least the one I have. He's so happy
all the time. He just wants to please you. He
just loves life. Although I will say my travels have
stressed him out, so maybe maybe that's not the best answer.
And he has to be my shadow. I always say,
you're you've got to be exhausting, because exhausted, I take
two steps, he takes two steps.
Speaker 3: But he's just loves you.
Speaker 4: Happy, He's happy when I'm home. His life is I
think it seems complete. I hope it's complete. And he's
just happy all the time.
Speaker 3: All right, So apologies to the Pickanese and the cattle
dogs out there. The AVMA president wants to be a
Bernese Mountain dog mix. Right. Yes, hey, I really do
appreciate you being on our show. How do people find
out more about you and the AVMA.
Speaker 4: Yeah, great question. We have so many resources on everything
that we've talked about today, the disaster preparedness, your first
aid kit, you heat on AVMA dot org, so please
check it out.
Speaker 3: All right, We've been speaking with doctor Sandra Fey, the
president of the AVMA, and a cool pet mom too
from the Midwest. At this time, I want to thank
all of you for tuning in. I got some big news. Everybody.
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