WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:02.480 There used to be this couple named Martha and CJ. 2 00:00:02.720 --> 00:00:05.400 From here in Oklahoma, and a Native American couple that 3 00:00:05.440 --> 00:00:08.240 we knew, and they had all kinds of stories. Man, 4 00:00:08.439 --> 00:00:10.720 I mean, there is stuff going on all the time 5 00:00:10.759 --> 00:00:13.400 where they live. There's still stuff that goes on there 6 00:00:14.080 --> 00:00:17.359 in that community on a pretty regular basis. But these 7 00:00:17.399 --> 00:00:20.280 people had activity going on their place all the time. 8 00:00:20.839 --> 00:00:24.359 Martha had had activity in her life since she was 9 00:00:24.359 --> 00:00:27.120 a little girl. And one of the stories that she 10 00:00:27.280 --> 00:00:32.359 had from whenever she was younger was actually leading a 11 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:37.320 bigfoot into their house like holding on to its two fingers. 12 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:40.479 She's a little girl, mind you, and she's like walking 13 00:00:40.520 --> 00:00:43.520 with this thing through her front door. She opens the 14 00:00:43.560 --> 00:00:46.560 front door and walks in, and this bigfoot comes in 15 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:48.799 behind her and kind of like ducks its head underneath 16 00:00:48.840 --> 00:00:51.280 the door, and all the men jump up, you know, 17 00:00:51.359 --> 00:00:52.960 and they're like trying to get it out of the 18 00:00:53.000 --> 00:00:54.960 house and shoot it out of the house, and it 19 00:00:55.039 --> 00:00:56.119 just looks at him and goes. 20 00:00:57.600 --> 00:00:59.479 And turns around and ducks back onto the door and 21 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:00.000 walks off. 22 00:01:01.280 --> 00:01:11.840 That is the crapiest story of the year. Yeah, I'm done. 23 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:45.079 This is Bigfoot Crossroads. My name's Matt and twenty twenty 24 00:01:45.079 --> 00:01:47.200 four has left the building. Ladies and gentlemen, we are 25 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:51.079 kicking off twenty twenty five. Man, that just sounds weird 26 00:01:51.120 --> 00:01:54.040 to say. I've got Bob and Steven with me from 27 00:01:54.280 --> 00:01:57.719 the Fantabulous Bigfoot Club podcast. If you've listened to the show, 28 00:01:57.760 --> 00:02:03.359 you've heard them before. If not, you're hearing them now. Guys, 29 00:02:03.599 --> 00:02:04.439 thanks for joining me. 30 00:02:06.120 --> 00:02:07.640 Hey Matt, what's going on? Mat? 31 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:11.919 Hey? Guys, We're happy. We're happy to be one. How 32 00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:13.520 is your New Year's Eve? 33 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:17.159 It was good? Good. 34 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:19.560 I mean, we didn't do much. We wrapped up the 35 00:02:19.599 --> 00:02:22.240 season last Saturday, so. 36 00:02:22.400 --> 00:02:26.479 Yeah, yeah, it was We watched The Yellowstone and then 37 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:29.919 I went to bed. Yeah yeah, yeah, we're all old 38 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:35.520 now mm hmm, yep, there we are. I was actually 39 00:02:35.800 --> 00:02:38.120 woken up at midnight by the sound of my dog 40 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:40.159 barking at fireworks. 41 00:02:41.560 --> 00:02:45.000 Yeah yeah, yeah, oh yeah, you have a new dog now. 42 00:02:45.319 --> 00:02:46.199 I do. I do? 43 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:47.439 So. 44 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:47.759 Yeah. 45 00:02:47.800 --> 00:02:50.680 I wanted to do kind of a year in wrap 46 00:02:50.759 --> 00:02:54.680 up episode, a little question answer thing for the listeners 47 00:02:54.680 --> 00:02:58.000 out there, had some people sending some questions, and uh, 48 00:02:58.759 --> 00:03:00.919 before we get to that, there's actually a couple things 49 00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:04.479 I wanted to talk to you guys. About the first 50 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:06.639 thing that comes to mind. It's been in the headlines 51 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:11.919 everywhere recently. Obviously, the bigfoot community has talked about it. 52 00:03:12.159 --> 00:03:17.120 Two Portland men going out to hunt for sasquatch on 53 00:03:17.280 --> 00:03:22.400 Christmas Eve unfortunately went missing. Their bodies were found a 54 00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:25.639 few days later, and the story is they had died 55 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:30.319 from exposure to the elements. No names have been mentioned 56 00:03:30.319 --> 00:03:33.280 as far as I know of. Maybe names will eventually 57 00:03:33.280 --> 00:03:36.000 come out, but as of right now, I haven't heard anybody. 58 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:36.680 I have asked a. 59 00:03:36.599 --> 00:03:39.759 Couple of people if they have any idea who these 60 00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:43.840 guys were. Nobody seems to know, so I guess it 61 00:03:43.919 --> 00:03:46.520 might have just been a couple of randoms, you know, 62 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:49.000 and not people tied to any bigfoot groups or anything. 63 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:51.960 But a truly tragic event. 64 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:55.319 Yeah, that would I did see that. 65 00:03:55.439 --> 00:03:58.520 I think we had talked off air about that. 66 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:01.960 That National Forest, it's called Gifford R. 67 00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:07.840 Gifford Gifford Pinchot National Forest in Scamania County in Washington, so. 68 00:04:07.960 --> 00:04:11.080 I know it's in Scaminia and it's also in Lewis 69 00:04:11.080 --> 00:04:15.319 County as well. But the bfro's got at least fifty 70 00:04:15.319 --> 00:04:18.639 three bigfoot side of reports in those counties. 71 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:21.959 That part of Washington is like one of the hottest 72 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:25.279 areas for Sasquatch ever. I mean that's where like Mount 73 00:04:25.279 --> 00:04:28.160 Saint Helens is and everything, so it's like a really 74 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:33.120 popular place to go. It's hard for me to understand 75 00:04:33.480 --> 00:04:38.480 how two guys out looking for Bigfoot could die from 76 00:04:38.480 --> 00:04:42.639 exposure to the elements. Every time I've gone out for me, 77 00:04:42.959 --> 00:04:44.680 it's like, okay, well you could have gotten back to 78 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:46.920 the vehicle, or you know, I've never even been in 79 00:04:46.920 --> 00:04:49.360 an area that didn't have like a little bit of 80 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:51.920 cell phone service of some kind at least close by. 81 00:04:52.839 --> 00:04:56.639 But Washington in the Pacific Northwest is an entirely different beast, 82 00:04:56.800 --> 00:05:01.319 you know. And it's just really horrible this happened, especially 83 00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:05.319 at Christmas time. Man, that's just the worst. 84 00:05:05.720 --> 00:05:08.240 So when when you first heard this story, did you 85 00:05:08.279 --> 00:05:11.000 did you immediately think it was like like Bigfoot that 86 00:05:11.040 --> 00:05:15.639 did it? Or they just they just died of elements, Like. 87 00:05:15.720 --> 00:05:16.720 I wasn't real sure. 88 00:05:16.800 --> 00:05:20.680 I'm still not, you know, I don't want to turn 89 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:24.160 a story like this into content since people lost their lives, 90 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:28.399 right because we don't know the situation or the actual 91 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:33.439 scenario that took place. I really don't think that it 92 00:05:33.519 --> 00:05:38.600 was anybody connected to any of the Bigfoot groups out 93 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:43.519 there firsthand, because I mean I know a lot of 94 00:05:43.560 --> 00:05:46.360 those guys and I don't I just don't think they 95 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:50.879 would have caught got caught, you know, unprepared like this, 96 00:05:51.399 --> 00:05:54.800 especially in an area like that. I think most people 97 00:05:54.839 --> 00:05:57.160 try to be as prepared as possible, but you know, 98 00:05:57.600 --> 00:06:01.160 humans make mistakes, and it's just it just goes to 99 00:06:01.160 --> 00:06:05.040 show you that regardless, you know, take the element of 100 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:08.720 bigfoot out of it, just the act of looking for 101 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:12.399 bigfoot is a dangerous hobby for anyone. 102 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:13.600 Yeah, I was. 103 00:06:13.959 --> 00:06:15.800 I did a little bit of research on this, and 104 00:06:16.360 --> 00:06:18.560 there was a gentleman by the name of John Hopkins 105 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:22.000 and he was a Seattle resident, sixty nine years old. 106 00:06:22.199 --> 00:06:26.839 He disappeared on November the twenty twenty two. And then 107 00:06:26.879 --> 00:06:31.399 there was a gentleman by the name of Christopher Zick Wickets. 108 00:06:32.040 --> 00:06:37.680 He disappeared in twenty thirteen. And then schemina County sheriff, 109 00:06:38.360 --> 00:06:42.240 stated on an article that at least twelve other people 110 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:45.639 have been missing in that area as well. 111 00:06:45.920 --> 00:06:46.240 Yeah. 112 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:50.199 I talked to a buddy of mine out there, Todd 113 00:06:50.279 --> 00:06:53.199 Hill with the Olympic Project, and he was talking about 114 00:06:53.240 --> 00:06:56.120 Yet people go missing all the time out there. I mean, 115 00:06:56.160 --> 00:07:00.759 it's a regular event unfortunately. But you know, again, the 116 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:04.439 terrain and everything, it's like completely different than it is 117 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:09.639 where we live. But it seems like the media did 118 00:07:09.680 --> 00:07:12.839 what the media does, and since they were like out 119 00:07:12.839 --> 00:07:15.199 looking for bigfoot at the time, that's what got pushed 120 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:17.319 in the headlines and everything, and they really used it 121 00:07:18.439 --> 00:07:21.879 for the attention grab on the article. So I'm not 122 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:24.319 going to be surprised if we don't hear anything more 123 00:07:24.360 --> 00:07:28.199 about this, or if we never get the names, because 124 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:30.800 I think the media has kind of gotten their goodie 125 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:32.160 out of it and they're done with it. 126 00:07:33.319 --> 00:07:33.560 Yeah. 127 00:07:34.439 --> 00:07:38.000 A little follow up thing though, one of the search 128 00:07:38.079 --> 00:07:41.720 and rescue teams that was involved in searching for these 129 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:46.680 men after they found the bodies, like the very next night, 130 00:07:46.879 --> 00:07:49.439 their trailer got broken into and all their equipment stolen. 131 00:07:49.920 --> 00:07:50.519 That's odd. 132 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:53.720 Yeah, they made a post on the internet about it, asking, 133 00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:56.000 you know, if anybody's got any information or whatever. 134 00:07:56.600 --> 00:08:02.000 But it's just like, wow, jeez, maybe they saw something 135 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:06.000 they weren't supposed to. And it's just events like this 136 00:08:06.040 --> 00:08:10.680 are so difficult to cover because you want to be 137 00:08:10.800 --> 00:08:14.319 respectful to the family and friends and you know, the 138 00:08:14.399 --> 00:08:18.839 men that lost their lives, and I know everybody wants information, 139 00:08:19.079 --> 00:08:21.680 and you know, plenty of people are going to start 140 00:08:21.680 --> 00:08:22.680 speculating us to. 141 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:25.160 What could have happened. Is there a cover up involved? 142 00:08:25.240 --> 00:08:27.240 You know, did they find what they were looking for 143 00:08:27.279 --> 00:08:30.920 and met their demise? But you know, we're probably just 144 00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:34.519 not going to get the information. That's not anything that 145 00:08:34.600 --> 00:08:39.200 anybody would ever come out with. So I hope that 146 00:08:39.320 --> 00:08:42.000 the Bigfoot world, you know, kind of lets these guys 147 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:43.080 rest in peace. 148 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:44.279 Absolutely. 149 00:08:44.879 --> 00:08:50.519 And in other news, drones in New Jersey aka UFOs 150 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:54.679 in New Jersey aka government vehicles flying over New Jersey 151 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:58.360 and everywhere else in the United States. Another huge headline 152 00:08:58.399 --> 00:09:00.799 at the end of this year or last year now 153 00:09:01.919 --> 00:09:05.759 that you know, was just plastered everywhere and talking about 154 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:10.399 speculation running wild. It certainly took off with that, but 155 00:09:10.679 --> 00:09:14.799 I was surprised to see none other than Matt Moneymaker 156 00:09:14.879 --> 00:09:18.960 of the BFRO posting about it, and not only posting 157 00:09:19.000 --> 00:09:23.960 about it, but publicly admitting that he has seen orbs 158 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:26.279 out in the woods while looking for Bigfoot, and so 159 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:29.759 have other BFRO members, and that it's like a common 160 00:09:29.799 --> 00:09:33.879 thing apparently, even though he's never really talked about it 161 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:35.320 or admitted to it previously. 162 00:09:36.080 --> 00:09:38.720 You know, I can honestly say because Stephen and I 163 00:09:38.840 --> 00:09:43.320 we actually interviewed Carter Bischard and he's a former BFRO guy, 164 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:48.159 and he has he has said on our show that 165 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:51.399 anytime he ran into orbs, right, anything he ran into 166 00:09:51.519 --> 00:09:56.759 orbs or anything supernatural ist, that the BFRORO would scrub 167 00:09:56.759 --> 00:09:58.679 it off. So I thought, that's kind of odd. 168 00:09:59.240 --> 00:09:59.480 Why. 169 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:03.039 I don't know, he just said that they just didn't 170 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:05.639 like any of the supernatural aspect of it. 171 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:08.840 But I mean, they build themselves and I'm not trying 172 00:10:08.879 --> 00:10:11.720 to turn this into a bash the BFRO session, but 173 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:15.720 I mean they've build themselves as the only scientific organization 174 00:10:15.879 --> 00:10:18.360 searching for Bigfoot. I mean, that's how they presented themselves 175 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:21.240 on their website for years. That's not very scientific to 176 00:10:21.279 --> 00:10:25.639 scrub information out of the reports. I mean, yeah, I'm 177 00:10:25.639 --> 00:10:30.480 not saying, you know, to make a connection between orbs 178 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:33.759 and Bigfoot, but if you're out looking for bigfoot and 179 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:37.960 you see orbs, that should be documented. I mean, if 180 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:39.799 you're out looking for bigfoot and you see a bear, 181 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:43.039 that should be documented. So I don't understand what the 182 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:43.639 problem is. 183 00:10:44.720 --> 00:10:46.559 Yeah, I don't like that one at all. 184 00:10:47.320 --> 00:10:49.759 But we've been talking about orbs for a long time. 185 00:10:49.879 --> 00:10:53.360 You know, you've seen a strange light anomaly while out 186 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:58.120 looking for Bigfoot. It's something that I talk to guests 187 00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:03.200 about regularly on the show, and it's like, oh, wow, 188 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:07.480 so you're finally admitting to orbs existing. Cool, thanks for 189 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:09.480 catching up with the rest of the class. 190 00:11:10.600 --> 00:11:13.440 Yeah, it's almost like it's like, you know, he's finally 191 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:14.279 given in or something. 192 00:11:14.320 --> 00:11:14.759 I don't know. 193 00:11:14.840 --> 00:11:18.639 It's just one of those things that get with the times, 194 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:21.120 and I guess he's finally doing it living now. 195 00:11:21.559 --> 00:11:24.600 Yeah, let me read a little bit of what he wrote. 196 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:29.080 He says, BFRO people including myself have seen these new 197 00:11:29.159 --> 00:11:33.200 Jersey drones several times over the years. We've seen these 198 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:35.960 things enough times and in enough places to notice a pattern. 199 00:11:36.840 --> 00:11:39.960 The locations were always devoid of any humans except for us. 200 00:11:40.000 --> 00:11:43.399 For miles in any direction, we could see these bright 201 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:46.840 crafts dropping in and out of remote mountain valleys, big 202 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:50.279 dark areas with no roads or mark trails. It seemed 203 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:53.840 these luminous objects, which bobbed around like big, lazy flying 204 00:11:53.879 --> 00:11:57.039 bugs in the dark mountain valleys, were intentionally trying to 205 00:11:57.159 --> 00:12:00.600 stay as far away from humans as possible, as if 206 00:12:00.639 --> 00:12:03.080 they were trying to stay out of our view, just 207 00:12:03.159 --> 00:12:07.519 like bigfoots prefer. Also, these drones are nothing new to us, 208 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:11.200 but the behavioral difference is striking. Now they are trying 209 00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:13.840 to be seen. They were doing the opposite before. 210 00:12:14.720 --> 00:12:18.559 Do you think he's just trying to stay relevant inside 211 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:19.480 the news or something. 212 00:12:19.639 --> 00:12:22.720 I mean, it kind of sounds like he might try 213 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:26.039 to be cashing in on a hot topic, you know, 214 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:31.799 on Twitter, using hashtags and stuff. Yeah, he's making a 215 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:35.759 connection here to the New Jersey drones, claiming that the 216 00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:38.399 New Jersey drones and the orbs that he has witnessed 217 00:12:38.440 --> 00:12:41.679 himself out in the woods looking for Bigfoot are the 218 00:12:41.720 --> 00:12:42.279 same thing. 219 00:12:42.519 --> 00:12:44.639 Whenever. I don't think that's been established at all. 220 00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:49.639 Yeah, I mean since October the first, twenty twenty four, 221 00:12:49.720 --> 00:12:54.039 there's like eight hundred thousand drones that are being registered 222 00:12:54.039 --> 00:12:57.000 to the FAA in the like in the US. 223 00:12:57.039 --> 00:12:58.519 I mean I have a drone. I don't. I don't 224 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:00.679 have it registered. I mean there's some many drones. 225 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:04.240 Right, It's hard, it's I mean, some people are probably 226 00:13:04.279 --> 00:13:07.519 like reapport duplicate sightings or something. 227 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:09.799 Yeah, that make it seem like it's so many. I 228 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:10.720 don't know. I'm just. 229 00:13:12.360 --> 00:13:15.600 I mean, I know that the UFO world has jumped 230 00:13:15.600 --> 00:13:17.799 on this thing, and I know that people think that 231 00:13:17.840 --> 00:13:21.000 there's some grand conspiracy at work. 232 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:23.480 But I would ask. 233 00:13:23.279 --> 00:13:27.320 Everyone to take pause for a second and just back 234 00:13:27.399 --> 00:13:31.519 up a little bit. Like you're saying, there are hundreds 235 00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:35.720 of thousands of people with drones out there. Anybody can 236 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:39.200 own a drone, it's not a big deal. Hardly anybody 237 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:42.279 actually registers their drones. So the numbers of people that 238 00:13:42.399 --> 00:13:46.799 are registering the drones, that's the minority of drone owners. 239 00:13:47.440 --> 00:13:51.120 So you take that into consideration. Then you take into 240 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:55.759 consideration it started right around the time that people start 241 00:13:55.759 --> 00:13:59.480 putting up Christmas lights, and I know that there are 242 00:13:59.559 --> 00:14:04.679 people hear that fly drones and take video and pictures 243 00:14:04.720 --> 00:14:07.759 of buildings and Christmas lights and everything else all the time. 244 00:14:08.399 --> 00:14:13.080 Then you've got helicopters doing light tours. You've got airplane. 245 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:15.200 My wife Leslie went up in an airplane to look 246 00:14:15.240 --> 00:14:18.600 at Christmas lights last year, like a little private airplane. 247 00:14:18.720 --> 00:14:23.080 So like there's lots of air traffic going on around 248 00:14:23.159 --> 00:14:27.399 Christmas time especially, and whenever you have this stuff getting 249 00:14:27.440 --> 00:14:30.360 sensationalized on the Internet by people just trying to use 250 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:34.039 it for content. People are gonna, you know, start reporting 251 00:14:34.080 --> 00:14:37.320 every single light they see in the sky. Yeah, and 252 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:41.279 I don't think that, like, I never saw anything that 253 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:44.240 I would consider anything other than just like a man 254 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:49.000 made drone, just like a regular you know, available to 255 00:14:49.159 --> 00:14:53.639 consumer drone being flown around in the sky. I think 256 00:14:53.679 --> 00:14:55.759 it got a lot of attention because of the Internet. 257 00:14:55.879 --> 00:14:57.840 I think there was a lot of fake videos out 258 00:14:57.840 --> 00:15:01.679 there that said, you know, like oh look and showing 259 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:05.159 some crazy CGI thing that they created and claiming that 260 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:08.600 they captured this footage over New Jersey, and people just 261 00:15:08.679 --> 00:15:10.519 ran with it. They went crazy with it like they 262 00:15:10.559 --> 00:15:11.080 always do. 263 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:14.600 You know what really bugged me is that when theyever 264 00:15:14.720 --> 00:15:17.879 the the federal government is saying they don't know what 265 00:15:17.919 --> 00:15:18.240 it is. 266 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:21.360 That's what really really bugged me the most. Yeah, they 267 00:15:21.480 --> 00:15:24.360 know what it is, they do, they know where it's going. 268 00:15:25.519 --> 00:15:27.679 But see I read like a couple of reports where 269 00:15:27.799 --> 00:15:31.480 it was saying like the local police didn't ask the 270 00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:34.080 federal government for help, So like they're not going to 271 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:36.399 get involved in something if they haven't been asked to 272 00:15:36.399 --> 00:15:38.519 get involved in something, and they're not going to get 273 00:15:38.559 --> 00:15:41.879 involved in something like, I mean drones, are they really 274 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:44.519 going to care? Like what are they going to do? 275 00:15:44.919 --> 00:15:48.240 And then on top of that, if you do see 276 00:15:48.279 --> 00:15:51.759 a strange drone up in the sky as a law 277 00:15:51.799 --> 00:15:55.639 enforcement officer or a federal employee of some kind and 278 00:15:55.679 --> 00:15:57.759 you want to go see that drone to see what 279 00:15:57.879 --> 00:16:00.559 it is, you're going to send up another they're drone 280 00:16:00.559 --> 00:16:02.360 to go look at it. You can't go chase it 281 00:16:02.399 --> 00:16:05.159 around with a helicopter or anything. So now you're putting 282 00:16:05.200 --> 00:16:06.919 another drone in this guy. And now that drone is 283 00:16:06.919 --> 00:16:11.039 getting reported as some crazy UFO. I think it's a 284 00:16:11.039 --> 00:16:12.320 lot of tel chasing man. 285 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:13.639 Yeah. 286 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:16.840 And then the FAA they have, you know, there's rules 287 00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:20.080 because they consider that like a like almost like a 288 00:16:20.080 --> 00:16:23.200 commercial plane. You can't you can't shoot it down, you 289 00:16:23.240 --> 00:16:26.360 can't right knock it down. So it's like only like 290 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:31.000 the the DOJ and the FBI, and I think there's 291 00:16:31.039 --> 00:16:35.039 another government entity that can do something about it. 292 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:37.440 I think one of them crashed or something in New 293 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:41.279 Jersey and like you know, the fire department and police 294 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:43.840 came out and Hasmat came out, and everybody was like, well, 295 00:16:44.039 --> 00:16:46.600 why such a response if it's just a drunk Well, 296 00:16:46.600 --> 00:16:49.559 because it's a drone because it is treated like an aircraft. 297 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:52.519 And that's what happens whenever an aircraft crashes, even though 298 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:55.720 it's something little. They don't know, like maybe it's a 299 00:16:55.840 --> 00:16:58.879 terrorist that has some sort of chemical warfare attached to it. 300 00:16:58.919 --> 00:17:01.919 Maybe the battery he's leaking, like who knows. You know 301 00:17:01.960 --> 00:17:03.159 how regulations are. 302 00:17:04.079 --> 00:17:05.640 Yeah, some of them are big too. Some of those 303 00:17:05.680 --> 00:17:07.000 drones are big, some of them are small. 304 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:10.319 Yeah, that's another thing. I can go out right now 305 00:17:10.359 --> 00:17:12.559 and buy a drone that has a seven foot wingspan, 306 00:17:13.359 --> 00:17:16.359 like that's a normal thing to do. So it's not 307 00:17:16.519 --> 00:17:20.359 crazy to think that people are flying these giant drones 308 00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:22.759 that could be loaded with anything, because they can. They 309 00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:26.559 literally can. There was a guy that I was talking 310 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:29.240 to for a while out on the West Coast that 311 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:32.519 we were actually going to partner with on a project 312 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:35.759 involving Bigfoot. And that's what this guy does is he 313 00:17:35.799 --> 00:17:39.359 builds custom drones for people, and he built drones for 314 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:42.720 the United States government. He built drones for the police Department, 315 00:17:42.799 --> 00:17:47.440 like giant drones, like twelve feet wide drones, not like 316 00:17:47.519 --> 00:17:51.160 the little djis that you buy it Best Buy. So, like, 317 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:53.240 these things do exist and people own them and they 318 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:53.920 fly them around. 319 00:17:55.559 --> 00:17:56.039 I don't know. 320 00:17:56.279 --> 00:18:00.000 I like I said, tell chasing people running wild with it, 321 00:18:00.039 --> 00:18:03.000 And I know there's people listening to the show that 322 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:05.200 are going to be like, well I saw on TikTok 323 00:18:05.279 --> 00:18:07.559 and it was an alien Like Okay, good for you, man. 324 00:18:07.680 --> 00:18:10.079 I don't care. I'm just telling you my opinion on this. 325 00:18:10.599 --> 00:18:13.839 Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it's a huge alien invasion that 326 00:18:14.039 --> 00:18:16.640 just for some reason is interested in New Jersey. 327 00:18:16.720 --> 00:18:17.119 I don't know. 328 00:18:17.480 --> 00:18:20.519 Jersey devil yep, Jersey Devil drone. 329 00:18:20.799 --> 00:18:23.960 So on social media, I asked around a few places 330 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:26.400 for people to send in questions that they might like 331 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:29.640 to hear asked on a question and answer session, and 332 00:18:30.039 --> 00:18:32.359 these are some of the ones I got. 333 00:18:33.480 --> 00:18:33.839 First. 334 00:18:33.839 --> 00:18:37.319 One is from Lauren, what is your most mind blowing 335 00:18:37.359 --> 00:18:41.319 bigfoot experience that you personally had, also that you have 336 00:18:41.400 --> 00:18:45.759 heard from someone else. The most mind blowing bigfoot experience 337 00:18:45.759 --> 00:18:50.440 that I've personally had is probably going to be the 338 00:18:50.480 --> 00:18:53.279 one where I didn't actually see a bigfoot. It's probably 339 00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:57.599 going to be the one where I believe that a 340 00:18:57.640 --> 00:19:01.880 bigfoot came in and checked the door handles on my 341 00:19:01.960 --> 00:19:05.079 vehicle and tried to get into it, which sounds crazy, 342 00:19:05.160 --> 00:19:10.359 but that's what happened camping. Woke up one of those 343 00:19:10.519 --> 00:19:13.480 startled awakes where you suddenly wake up and you don't 344 00:19:13.480 --> 00:19:16.880 know why you're awake. So I laid there listening, and 345 00:19:16.920 --> 00:19:19.880 I could hear something walking just outside the tent wall, 346 00:19:21.240 --> 00:19:25.279 very quietly. And then I heard something else walking in 347 00:19:25.359 --> 00:19:29.200 front of the tent. My vehicle has parked a few 348 00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:33.000 feet away from me. I can't see anything. It's the 349 00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:37.400 middle of the night. And I heard something whispering to 350 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:42.759 something else. Couldn't tell what they were saying. Then I 351 00:19:42.839 --> 00:19:47.920 heard the distinct sound of the door handle, like the 352 00:19:47.920 --> 00:19:50.920 car handle snapping back down, like if you lift it 353 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:52.799 up on the handle and it slipped out of your 354 00:19:52.799 --> 00:19:56.680 fingers and slammed back down from the spring. And at 355 00:19:56.680 --> 00:20:01.160 that point I thought, somebody is trying to break into 356 00:20:01.160 --> 00:20:05.759 the vehicles. They're still in our stuff. I had a 357 00:20:05.759 --> 00:20:10.720 firearm with me. I grabbed it, put my feet in 358 00:20:10.759 --> 00:20:16.799 my boots, grabbed my spotlight. Realized that the lanterns outside 359 00:20:17.039 --> 00:20:19.839 the tent had been turned off. We had three of 360 00:20:19.880 --> 00:20:23.000 them lit before we turned in, and all three of 361 00:20:23.039 --> 00:20:26.559 them were off. I wasn't sure what time it was, 362 00:20:27.480 --> 00:20:31.519 but typically those lanterns would have lasted around eight hours, 363 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:35.240 and I knew it hadn't been eight hours, and so 364 00:20:35.279 --> 00:20:37.160 there was no way that all three of them had 365 00:20:37.160 --> 00:20:40.400 already ran out of fuel. So that kind of freaked 366 00:20:40.400 --> 00:20:44.000 me out. So I decided to try and wake up 367 00:20:44.599 --> 00:20:47.799 the other guys that were with me. One of them 368 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:52.119 was like partially deaf in one ear and sound asleep, 369 00:20:52.359 --> 00:20:57.000 didn't even hear me. The other guy heard me, so 370 00:20:57.079 --> 00:20:59.359 he woke up and met me outside the tents. Because 371 00:20:59.680 --> 00:21:02.359 I I thought about it for a while, and I 372 00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:04.119 didn't want to just go busting out of the tent 373 00:21:04.200 --> 00:21:08.119 with the gun because in my mind, there's people out 374 00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:11.480 there and maybe they're armed, and I'm like, in a 375 00:21:11.559 --> 00:21:14.000 national park, I'm not even supposed to have a firearm. 376 00:21:14.799 --> 00:21:16.119 What am I going to do? Am I just going 377 00:21:16.200 --> 00:21:17.759 to start shooting at them? 378 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:20.799 So I thought it was best just to yell at 379 00:21:20.799 --> 00:21:23.960 my buddy and let these people. 380 00:21:23.720 --> 00:21:25.200 Run off if that's what they wanted to do. 381 00:21:25.279 --> 00:21:29.799 The problem was never heard, anybody run off, didn't hear anything. 382 00:21:31.039 --> 00:21:34.079 Came out of the tent, shining the spotlight around nothing. 383 00:21:34.839 --> 00:21:38.920 There's nothing anywhere, no movement, no sound. The park's empty. 384 00:21:40.400 --> 00:21:44.240 Nothing in the vehicle is taken. The car doors were 385 00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:49.839 actually unlocked, and my wallet and stuff was like laying 386 00:21:49.920 --> 00:21:53.640 in the center console. There was like a walkie talking 387 00:21:53.720 --> 00:21:56.000 and another spotlight I think, laying on the seat. Nothing 388 00:21:56.079 --> 00:22:00.279 was taken, So yeah, that was kind of weird. Buddy 389 00:22:00.359 --> 00:22:04.400 called the park ranger to report, you know, that we 390 00:22:04.440 --> 00:22:07.839 had prowlers at our campsite, because I mean I heard 391 00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:10.680 the footsteps and I heard the voices, and I heard 392 00:22:10.680 --> 00:22:15.559 the door handle, so like, still, it's definitely somebody. It's 393 00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:17.920 not an animal. It's not a raccoon getting into the 394 00:22:17.960 --> 00:22:24.440 cooler or anything. And the other guy wakes up and 395 00:22:24.519 --> 00:22:27.000 he's like, did you check for tracks? Well, no, I 396 00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:28.839 didn't check for tracks. Why did I check for tracks? 397 00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:31.759 So I shined the spotlight over by the side of 398 00:22:31.759 --> 00:22:34.480 the tent where I first heard the footsteps, and you 399 00:22:34.519 --> 00:22:41.160 could clearly see barefoot five toes impressions in the pea 400 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:44.759 gravel around the campsite next to the tent. The other 401 00:22:44.799 --> 00:22:48.559