WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:02.160 Welcome to the Big Blue and Sider Dick Gabriel with 2 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:06.280 you Tuesday edition of our program, and tonight Cameron Mills 3 00:00:06.360 --> 00:00:08.240 joins us here in the garage. Of course, we pre 4 00:00:08.240 --> 00:00:12.000 record talked to Cameron earlier today, and we talk a 5 00:00:12.000 --> 00:00:15.000 lot of basketball. We talk a lot about coaching. We 6 00:00:15.039 --> 00:00:20.039 talk about Rick Patino versus Mark Pope, different styles of coaching, 7 00:00:20.480 --> 00:00:24.160 and why both are and have been successful will be 8 00:00:24.320 --> 00:00:28.280 successful at Kentucky. And of course Cameron and Mark Pope 9 00:00:28.280 --> 00:00:30.719 are good friends. They were teammates, they won a national 10 00:00:30.800 --> 00:00:36.320 championship together and survive Rick Patino together. But both of 11 00:00:36.359 --> 00:00:40.119 them now think as much of Patino as anybody in 12 00:00:40.159 --> 00:00:43.439 their respective lives. So we'll talk about that. I will 13 00:00:43.479 --> 00:00:46.600 warn you that Cameron and I and if you've listened 14 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:49.880 to our conversations before, you know this, we get off 15 00:00:49.920 --> 00:00:53.640 on tangents, but usually it's at the end of the show. 16 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:57.640 Somehow today and I'll take the blame, we kind of 17 00:00:57.679 --> 00:01:01.880 lost track early and we spend a lot of time 18 00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:06.719 talking I don't know how about coffee and doughnuts and 19 00:01:06.799 --> 00:01:09.239 things like that, and many of you out there enjoy 20 00:01:09.359 --> 00:01:11.359 one or both, so you might find it interesting. I 21 00:01:11.439 --> 00:01:14.319 hope you do, but stick around for the basketball talk 22 00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:18.920 because that's the most interesting part of all. Before we 23 00:01:18.959 --> 00:01:21.120 get to our interview, we'll tell you, and you probably 24 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:24.879 have already seen this by now, but Randall Cobb, who 25 00:01:24.959 --> 00:01:29.560 might be the best all around player in the history 26 00:01:29.560 --> 00:01:34.280 of Kentucky football, is on now the ballot for the 27 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:38.359 National Football Foundation College Hall of Fame. I do vote 28 00:01:38.359 --> 00:01:40.159 for that, and I will tell you I will vote 29 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:43.439 for Randall Cobb. I will also tell you that the 30 00:01:43.519 --> 00:01:50.599 ballot is absolutely jammed with great college players. I don't 31 00:01:50.599 --> 00:01:52.599 have the time to go through them all now. Probably 32 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:56.079 do that tomorrow night, unless I have Jerry duty. But 33 00:01:57.719 --> 00:02:01.079 it's going to be really difficult because there are so 34 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:06.400 many great players. And what is also interesting is how 35 00:02:06.439 --> 00:02:11.280 many of these great players came across the path of 36 00:02:11.319 --> 00:02:15.639 the Kentucky Wildcats. You've seen, if you've watched Kentucky football, 37 00:02:16.159 --> 00:02:19.360 so many of these great players. I guarantee you, if 38 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:22.199 you're a college football fan, you've seen them on TV. 39 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:25.599 Every time. It seemed like every third or fourth name, 40 00:02:25.639 --> 00:02:28.560 I'm like, I played against Kentucky. Oh that guy? But yeah, 41 00:02:28.599 --> 00:02:31.000 you know, so it's really interesting. We'll go over at 42 00:02:31.599 --> 00:02:33.639 like I said, tomorrow and I we don't really have 43 00:02:33.639 --> 00:02:38.000 the time to do it tonight, but congratulations to Randall 44 00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:43.919 just for being on the ballot. And he was, as 45 00:02:43.960 --> 00:02:47.599 you know, a wide receiver, a quarterback, punt return man, 46 00:02:47.719 --> 00:02:52.520 kick return man. And I went back and forth on 47 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:56.960 Randall Cobb or Dickey Lyons Senior as to who was 48 00:02:57.000 --> 00:03:01.000 the best all around player versatile player in the history 49 00:03:01.039 --> 00:03:04.000 of Kentucky football. Of course, Dickey Lyons played in the 50 00:03:04.080 --> 00:03:08.439 late sixties and unfortunately for him, played on some of 51 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:11.840 the worst UK teams in the history of the program. 52 00:03:12.319 --> 00:03:15.319 They just didn't have enough around him. Had some good players, 53 00:03:15.919 --> 00:03:20.400 but not enough. Randall played for winning teams for the 54 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:24.520 most part. Now they won games a lot of the 55 00:03:24.560 --> 00:03:29.840 reason because of him. But I always wondered was he 56 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:32.639 the best? And of course he was a finalist for 57 00:03:32.680 --> 00:03:36.080 the Paul Horning Award as the nation's most versatile player. 58 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:40.120 And none other than Jeff Van Note, who was broadcasting 59 00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:45.879 Kentucky football back then and played with Dickey Lyons, he 60 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:52.520 pronounced Randall Cobb as the best versatile player and playmaker 61 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:56.280 in UK football history. That sold it for me. And 62 00:03:56.360 --> 00:03:58.520 I got to tell you, Dicky Lyons was my first 63 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:02.520 college football hero, same name, first name, and I was 64 00:04:02.560 --> 00:04:06.080 such a great player, and of course Kentucky almost always 65 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:10.680 lost when his teams would play. So I was a 66 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:16.120 huge Dickey Lyons fan and did a story on him 67 00:04:16.360 --> 00:04:19.040 for TV many years ago, got to be friendly with him, 68 00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:22.560 and of course was a big fan of Dickey Lyons junior. 69 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:27.720 But Jeff Van Note said it was Randall, and if 70 00:04:27.720 --> 00:04:31.240 it was Randall, according to Note, that is good enough 71 00:04:31.399 --> 00:04:34.920 for me. One other basketball note before we hit the 72 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:37.879 break and start chatting with Cameron. A couple of satellite 73 00:04:37.959 --> 00:04:42.439 basketball camps announced by Mark Pope and his staff Laurel 74 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:47.680 County on June twentieth from five to seven thirty PM 75 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:51.319 at North Laurel High School and then in Russell County 76 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:57.639 June twenty first at ten am ten to one ten 77 00:04:57.680 --> 00:05:01.519 eight I'm sorry, ten thirty to one Eastern time at 78 00:05:01.639 --> 00:05:05.439 Russell County High School and both are for boys and 79 00:05:05.480 --> 00:05:11.360 girls ages seven to seventeen. So go UK Athletics dot 80 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:13.839 com for more info. And when we come back, Cameron Mills, 81 00:05:13.839 --> 00:05:20.000 you're in the garage six point thirty WLAP Welcome back 82 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:22.000 to the Big Blu Insider and as I mentioned, joining 83 00:05:22.040 --> 00:05:24.360 us in the garage is mister Cameron Mills. We haven't 84 00:05:24.439 --> 00:05:27.879 visited with Cameron really since right after the basketball season ended. 85 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:30.720 We have much to discuss looking ahead now that there's 86 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:33.319 not an entirely brand new roster with a lot of 87 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:38.800 new faces, but we usually get caught up. We chit 88 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:41.920 chat before we start recording, and believe it or not, 89 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:47.079 our topic of discussion as he arrived in the garage 90 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:51.199 was this huge container of beverage that he brought. You're 91 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:52.800 always you know a lot of times you'll have like 92 00:05:52.839 --> 00:05:56.079 a big gulp or something. Today it was something that 93 00:05:56.920 --> 00:05:59.279 the equivalent of a big gulp. You know, let's tell 94 00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:00.839 me something. 95 00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:05.120 You know, Lloyd comes out of the for the convenience 96 00:06:05.160 --> 00:06:07.600 store and looks over at the rough guys and goes 97 00:06:07.839 --> 00:06:12.959 big gulfs. Huh Okay. Then yeah, well today it's like, 98 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:16.720 I don't know what it is. It's a Stanley, but 99 00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:21.519 it's not. First of all, I think so I think 100 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:23.279 it's what it is. It's like, it's like this might 101 00:06:23.319 --> 00:06:25.720 be the either more expensive YETI or the cheaper YETI 102 00:06:25.800 --> 00:06:29.600 got it. It's all garbage. But what's in it is 103 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:34.360 Heaven on Earth cold brew cough cold brew coffee. Now 104 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:38.920 let's discuss the difference stick because Cameron is getting ready 105 00:06:39.079 --> 00:06:42.240 to become an entrepreneur and get into this again. What 106 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:42.879 do you mean again? 107 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:46.279 You've always got something? What else was not entrepreneur? You're 108 00:06:46.279 --> 00:06:47.800 delivering flowers for a while. 109 00:06:47.959 --> 00:06:50.759 That wasn't a business I started. That was that was helping, 110 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:54.360 That was making extra money. Susan and I are door dashing. 111 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:55.000 That's true. 112 00:06:55.120 --> 00:06:56.079 Yeah, I mean we're just. 113 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:02.759 Author talk about that a little bit later. 114 00:07:03.839 --> 00:07:06.079 Wait, listen, this it's it's a busy household over that 115 00:07:06.199 --> 00:07:09.279 with the mills resid so but no, this is this 116 00:07:09.399 --> 00:07:13.319 is my Susan loves coffee. Susan gets up every morning 117 00:07:13.439 --> 00:07:17.279 and we do coffee, yes, which I find coffee in 118 00:07:17.319 --> 00:07:19.879 and of itself deplorable because I don't like bitter things. 119 00:07:20.439 --> 00:07:24.800 I don't I don't like beer. I don't true, but 120 00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:27.720 you know, you have you have to have your exceptions. 121 00:07:28.720 --> 00:07:30.439 I don't like the taste of beer. I don't like 122 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:34.079 taste of alcohol, which I'm thankful for because you know, 123 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:38.360 I've had addiction issues in my past. So I'm like, oh, 124 00:07:38.480 --> 00:07:40.639 it's good. This is not This is not my drug 125 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:44.680 of choice because it's pretty easy to get. But I 126 00:07:45.879 --> 00:07:48.759 Susan gets up and every morning it's like she brought 127 00:07:48.759 --> 00:07:51.399 a cuig into the into the marriage. That's what that was. 128 00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:56.079 Her contribution helped me zero. But I started getting into 129 00:07:58.040 --> 00:07:59.560 you know, like, all right, you know what camer you 130 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:03.439 can'tdrink I cope, your entire life, So let's get something 131 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:06.639 that might be healthier. And then we started getting into 132 00:08:06.720 --> 00:08:11.480 the the heated microplastics yep, thinking okay, you know, and 133 00:08:11.519 --> 00:08:13.240 this decisions idea. She's like, you know, I don't know 134 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:16.920 how safe that is, and I'm like yeah. So so 135 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:19.920 we got away from the curig and then we went 136 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:21.720 to and when I say we, I mean her because 137 00:08:21.720 --> 00:08:23.639 I don't you know, I'll drink the coffee. 138 00:08:23.759 --> 00:08:24.759 She sets the tone. 139 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:28.120 Oh absolutely, in every in every way. And that's that 140 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:30.079 has not said bitterly. I just said, God, thank god 141 00:08:30.079 --> 00:08:34.120 I found her. But so the decision was, okay, let's 142 00:08:34.120 --> 00:08:36.919 get a regular like a coffee pot, which oddly enough, 143 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:41.080 the millennials and the generation whatever they are now, they's 144 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:43.639 Squadron call. They are starting that they found this new 145 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:48.360 thing called a coffee pot where they can make their 146 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:52.919 own coffee at home for pennies to what they've been 147 00:08:52.919 --> 00:08:55.960 paying at Starbucks, and so it's it's this brilliant thing 148 00:08:56.000 --> 00:08:57.639 they've discovered. I think a lot of us should get 149 00:08:57.679 --> 00:09:01.159 into it. And uh so, anyway, but what's funny is 150 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:02.320 she got the coffee pot. 151 00:09:02.399 --> 00:09:05.240 But you you have to go through many many steps 152 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:09.480 to make the vanilla frappuccino. Yeah, we don't, you know. 153 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:10.320 Yeah, that's true. 154 00:09:10.519 --> 00:09:11.919 True many Starbucks people. 155 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:14.840 No, true, absolutely, I get that. But you can also coffee. 156 00:09:14.879 --> 00:09:18.039 You could also And if you like your blackie, you're Blackie. 157 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:21.000 That's what I'm gonna call my first Colbert Black Excellent. Yeah, 158 00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:23.600 I think I don't think that CAUs any problems. If 159 00:09:23.879 --> 00:09:27.960 you like your coffee black, then your job's done right 160 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:29.399 either way. I mean, it's the easiest thing to do. 161 00:09:29.639 --> 00:09:32.559 But I don't like bitter things. Therefore I cannot do 162 00:09:32.840 --> 00:09:36.919 black coffee. So this has a load of sugar free 163 00:09:36.960 --> 00:09:41.320 creamer in it with a slight vanilla flavor. But anyway, 164 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:43.480 so she got the regular coffee pot. But here's the thing. 165 00:09:43.960 --> 00:09:47.559 The regular regular coffee pots have plastic in them. The 166 00:09:47.559 --> 00:09:50.000 hot water is still going through plastic. Yeah, I mean 167 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:50.399 it is. 168 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:51.879 I can no, it is. 169 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:53.879 Well in our in ours like the one we got 170 00:09:53.879 --> 00:09:57.240 because again, I guess depends on how expensive one you get. Anyway, well, 171 00:09:57.279 --> 00:09:58.080 it depends. 172 00:09:57.720 --> 00:09:59.480 On the staff. If you have a French press, that's 173 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:00.039 not a big. 174 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:02.559 True true because that's the metal. Yeah, but get it. 175 00:10:02.600 --> 00:10:05.279 Come on, what that's a little mix. Who are these 176 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:07.840 pretentious people French pressing their coffee up? 177 00:10:08.200 --> 00:10:10.000 We used to have one. We used to have and 178 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:12.919 then my wife then and you matured, a wife's a 179 00:10:12.960 --> 00:10:16.200 coffee fish. We have not to get you off track. 180 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:17.399 Which we were already off track. 181 00:10:17.440 --> 00:10:21.000 Yeah, but we have a coffee maker upstairs that she 182 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:24.840 purchased at a pretty penny because it's what Jennifer Aniston. 183 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:27.120 Oh you told me this last time told me. 184 00:10:27.679 --> 00:10:28.799 It makes you eat coffee. 185 00:10:29.559 --> 00:10:32.600 Jennifer, Jennifer Instant makes a great thing. That's except movies. 186 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:35.960 But she but she did make a great TV series 187 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:41.320 for about ten years and was my college crush. I 188 00:10:41.320 --> 00:10:43.200 was gonna say, yeah, I don't even make me different anyway. 189 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:48.440 So anyway, so so I started because of a TV 190 00:10:48.519 --> 00:10:51.679 show that you and I both adore, called Archer. 191 00:10:51.879 --> 00:10:54.879 And this is why we're recording this. We were gonna 192 00:10:54.919 --> 00:11:00.039 talk basketball first. Archer is an animated series about the 193 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:01.559 greatest private greatest. 194 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:05.720 The Greatest Private Eye. Yeah private Yeah, he's a secret age, 195 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:09.879 secret agent. He tells everyone he's a secret if. Most 196 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:11.879 people probably have heard of or watched it, but it 197 00:11:12.679 --> 00:11:15.720 is usually one of those mini shows that you and 198 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:18.759 I have gotten each other into. I mean, I hear 199 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:23.679 the Scrubs, thirty Rock Archer, I got you into Letter 200 00:11:23.720 --> 00:11:30.080 Kenny and into short uh so Seinfeld, that's what I 201 00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:33.399 think that's was the original one. But anyway, so there's 202 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:35.559 a there's an episode and I think it's season seven 203 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:38.559 of Archer, but it's when they start getting into the 204 00:11:38.720 --> 00:11:42.399 like kind of weird seasons where he's in a coma. Right, well, 205 00:11:42.440 --> 00:11:44.080 this is the one that puts him in a coma. 206 00:11:44.200 --> 00:11:47.360 That's that season, right. So the two the two police 207 00:11:47.399 --> 00:11:51.399 officers played by Key and Peel. I'm pretty sure at 208 00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:53.840 least one of one of the two is doing the 209 00:11:53.879 --> 00:11:57.240 voiceovers for one of those for this character. And these 210 00:11:57.360 --> 00:12:01.039 it's these two detectives looking at Archer's body. Uh it's animated, 211 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:02.799 by the way, folks. So I was looking at Archer's body, 212 00:12:02.840 --> 00:12:05.919 you know, overturned in a pool with gunshots in him, 213 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:08.080 like he's dead. Right, That's how the scene opens. So 214 00:12:08.120 --> 00:12:12.159 the detectors are talking about you know, you know what 215 00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:16.679 what you know the case, and then the other guy 216 00:12:17.360 --> 00:12:19.720 played by either Key or Peel. I forget which one, 217 00:12:19.879 --> 00:12:23.840 but I recognized the voice basically says he's gonna go 218 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:26.360 get a coffee, and and the other cop who's being 219 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:31.000 the you know, the the rough one. It's like, I like, 220 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:33.399 mind black, he goes up, I'm gonna get a col Brew. 221 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:35.960 He goes easier on the tom tum and he looks 222 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:38.679 at him. He's like what he goes Yeah, Colebrew has 223 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:41.039 about two thirds less acid. 224 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:46.679 And so I'm like, hmmm, you're taking dietary advice from a. 225 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:52.919 From an animated TV show. But I've done I've done 226 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:56.320 this several times. I mean, I have learned about things 227 00:12:56.559 --> 00:12:59.879 my mom told me when I was a child. The 228 00:13:00.320 --> 00:13:03.279 reading was important. Now I'm not going to dispute that. Okay, 229 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:07.639 you're a teacher, no no, no. My mom yes, in 230 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:11.840 the sense that she was a mom, I mean meaning 231 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:15.200 meaning she was she was until call your until until 232 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:18.200 the nest was empty. My mom was a mother period. 233 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:20.320 She was. She didn't work, she worked, she was a 234 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:24.679 she worked at home. And that ain't mean something different today, 235 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:27.519 doesn't it. She was a mother and a wife at home. Okay, 236 00:13:27.600 --> 00:13:29.720 one one of most important jobs area. So don't even 237 00:13:29.759 --> 00:13:32.559 think I'm saying it's not a job. She's don't get 238 00:13:32.559 --> 00:13:34.840 paid for it. So anyway, So but she always said, 239 00:13:34.879 --> 00:13:38.000 I mean I hate to read you know this, and 240 00:13:38.840 --> 00:13:40.960 she but she would always I mean, just from time 241 00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:44.240 was a child. It's like, camer you got it. Have 242 00:13:44.320 --> 00:13:47.039 you read your book for your book report. I've read 243 00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:51.000 the back of the cover. Cameron read the book because 244 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:53.360 I've told you sadly, And I'll confess again, how many 245 00:13:53.399 --> 00:13:55.799 books have I read my life? And what are they? 246 00:13:56.039 --> 00:13:58.639 The Bible and the autobiography of Malcolm X. 247 00:14:00.440 --> 00:14:04.159 Why because Alex Haley could write his rear end off? 248 00:14:04.279 --> 00:14:07.000 Yeah, but why that wasn't a gateway to other books anyway, 249 00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:07.879 back to cold back. 250 00:14:08.159 --> 00:14:11.279 Yeah. So anyway, so they're they're talking about it, and 251 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:16.240 I'm thinking, Okay, I you know, I guess I'll try it. 252 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:18.879 And then I went through the phase where I was like, Okay, 253 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:23.279 so this is caffeine. It's it's got the bitter sweet 254 00:14:23.279 --> 00:14:25.200 to it coffee in general. Right when you put creamer in, 255 00:14:25.440 --> 00:14:28.519 you get caffeine. And then I'm like, I just don't 256 00:14:28.519 --> 00:14:30.399 want to get up in the morning and drink something 257 00:14:31.240 --> 00:14:33.960 three hundred degrees. And I've always been like that. I 258 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:36.360 don't I like hot chocolate, that's about it, right, and 259 00:14:36.399 --> 00:14:39.600 that's in the winter. So then I discovered ice coffee, 260 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:42.320 all right, And so then I went through that quick fase. 261 00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:44.720 It can be a little bitter, yeah, yeah, And I 262 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:47.320 don't mind a little bitter, especially when it's loaded with 263 00:14:47.320 --> 00:14:50.159 a bunch of sweets and so and then I went 264 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:52.600 and so I went through that phase, and then the 265 00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:57.159 Archer thing happened, and I'm like, I wonder if my 266 00:14:57.279 --> 00:15:01.639 stomach would feel better after cold brew, because I was 267 00:15:01.639 --> 00:15:04.559 confused between ice coffee and cold brew. Folks. There's a difference. 268 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:08.240 Cold brew, as it, as has stated, is brood cold, 269 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:11.080 not brood hot. So it takes a day to brew. 270 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:14.639 It takes like a like a cup and a half 271 00:15:14.639 --> 00:15:18.759 of coffee round. But it is it is. It is 272 00:15:18.799 --> 00:15:22.320 my drink of choice. Now I am a diet coke occasionally, 273 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:27.840 and is it uh yes, no, no, I mean I 274 00:15:27.879 --> 00:15:31.159 can honestly tell that like when I I if I 275 00:15:31.200 --> 00:15:32.960 go back and I just have to have like a 276 00:15:32.960 --> 00:15:34.799 regular couple offfee, meaning we're somewhere where there is no 277 00:15:34.879 --> 00:15:37.840 cold brew, which is many places. And that's the problem 278 00:15:37.919 --> 00:15:40.720 with the world that I'm trying to change. And so 279 00:15:40.960 --> 00:15:44.759 the problem the problem, yes, and so I mean, I 280 00:15:44.759 --> 00:15:46.679 don't know what other problems you could be referring to. 281 00:15:47.519 --> 00:15:50.039 And so, uh, but I can tell when I drink 282 00:15:50.039 --> 00:15:53.519 gray of coffee, I'm like it just I don't know 283 00:15:53.559 --> 00:15:55.399 how to describe it. It's just a tummy ache. And 284 00:15:55.399 --> 00:15:58.440 then when I drink this, no, no, it's it's it's 285 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:01.399 it's it's it's the soothing this of a diet coke, 286 00:16:01.480 --> 00:16:04.279 all right, without the. 287 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:05.399 Coke is being soothing. 288 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:08.600 Well, when it's your when it's your drink of when 289 00:16:08.759 --> 00:16:10.960 your when's your first thing in the morning drink, which 290 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:15.080 sounds absurd. It's like I was living like a college kid. 291 00:16:16.039 --> 00:16:18.879 Well actually college because they pay ten dollars for some 292 00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:22.279 Starbucks every day. But I am starting my own coffee company. 293 00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:25.039 Back and forth. It's all going to be Colebrew, cams 294 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:27.200 Cam's Coldbrew, Cameron's Cold Brew. I don't know if I'll 295 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:28.480 put my name in it. We'll figure it out. 296 00:16:28.559 --> 00:16:29.519 Right, they're out of the house. 297 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:34.240 Well initially, yes, I'm not investing million dollars of infrastructure 298 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:37.039 into this, you know, potentially failed concepts. 299 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:39.759 You know what, folks, he had an idea when he 300 00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:42.960 got out of college that he was going to try 301 00:16:43.240 --> 00:16:44.879 to bring the election, and we'll tell you about that 302 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:49.399 after the break. He is Cameron Mills. You don't, folks, No, 303 00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:52.080 this is well sort of uh no, Cameron, of course. 304 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:56.840 He former wildcad, two time national champion and a member 305 00:16:56.879 --> 00:17:00.240 of our UK Sports Network team covering Kentucky basket ball 306 00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:02.799 on our pregame show. We'll come back, I promise and 307 00:17:02.840 --> 00:17:07.240 talk basketball and his buddy Mark Pope and the new roster. 308 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:08.880 We're also going to talk about Rick Patino. 309 00:17:09.039 --> 00:17:12.000 That's right, yesd the off season back. 310 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:13.799 In just a minute on six point thirty WLA B. 311 00:17:14.759 --> 00:17:16.519 Welcome back to the Big Blue and Cider. We're here 312 00:17:16.559 --> 00:17:20.319 in the garage with Cameron Mills, former Kentucky basketball guard, 313 00:17:20.720 --> 00:17:23.920 now member of our pregame coverage on the UK Sports Network. 314 00:17:24.359 --> 00:17:26.519 And we wasted the first segment. 315 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:29.279 Talking about not waste it informing. 316 00:17:28.720 --> 00:17:32.640 The public educating the public about coldbrew coffee. 317 00:17:32.200 --> 00:17:34.599 A lesson that was learned by watching an adult animated 318 00:17:34.759 --> 00:17:36.039 TV show. Watch for it. 319 00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:38.839 I guess you'll you'll see it on the internet if 320 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:43.039 and when Cameron's Cold Brew is born. But that is 321 00:17:43.079 --> 00:17:45.200 not the furthest will not be if you follow us, 322 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:48.799 it won't be the first time he is tried something 323 00:17:49.440 --> 00:17:53.480 of a business man because coming out of UK pre 324 00:17:53.640 --> 00:17:57.119 n I l of course, you guys were part of 325 00:17:57.119 --> 00:17:58.640 the Barnstorming Tour, which is. 326 00:17:58.640 --> 00:18:01.000 A great tell. There was one every year, right, yeah. 327 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:03.160 Great tradition and so you had a little bit of 328 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:04.039 change in your pocket. 329 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:07.160 Well, we had just won a National champions right, which 330 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:08.920 is always funny if you look back at the autograph 331 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:10.880 set the guys who graduate and the autograph sess as 332 00:18:10.880 --> 00:18:13.079 they get to do, which again it's completely different now 333 00:18:13.079 --> 00:18:14.759 they get to do them while they were players. But 334 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:17.960 if you come out, if your last season at UK 335 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:24.480 is a final four, those autographs tours and barnstorm tours, 336 00:18:24.519 --> 00:18:28.160 which they really don't do much anymore, they're going to 337 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:29.880 be successful. You come out of the UK and your 338 00:18:29.920 --> 00:18:32.839 last year is a national champion and you've actually got 339 00:18:32.880 --> 00:18:36.400 two of those suckers and one runner up. Yeah, they 340 00:18:36.400 --> 00:18:40.039 go incredibly well. And we had three thousand people two 341 00:18:40.079 --> 00:18:42.400 days after the National Championship Game ninety eight. We have 342 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:46.440 three thousand, Jeff Shepherd, Allen Edwards, and I with three seniors, 343 00:18:46.480 --> 00:18:48.720 and eventually Nause joined us because he was gonna go pro. 344 00:18:50.400 --> 00:18:53.359 We had three thousand people at Fayette Mall get in 345 00:18:53.400 --> 00:18:54.319 line winning our autograph. 346 00:18:54.440 --> 00:18:58.039 You remember guy charge for autograph. 347 00:18:57.799 --> 00:19:00.720 Well, we didn't charge for autograph. Fayette in that case 348 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:03.559 paid us per hour to be there, and it was 349 00:19:03.640 --> 00:19:07.920 still an obscene amount. Good and I and that's the 350 00:19:07.960 --> 00:19:11.359 thing I don't I don't. I don't feel comfortable saying it. 351 00:19:11.359 --> 00:19:12.839 I'll tell you off the area and I've told I've 352 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:14.759 told other people before. It's not like it's a secret. 353 00:19:14.799 --> 00:19:17.000 But I'll just say it's like three thousand dollars an hour, 354 00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:18.640 all right for the three of us to sit there 355 00:19:18.960 --> 00:19:22.079 and sign our name, Okay, And what made it amazing 356 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:23.720 that day? And granted it was the very first one 357 00:19:23.720 --> 00:19:26.000 we had, and it's tailed off in the last twenty 358 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:29.599 five years, folks. Okay, I I'm not charging that much anymore. 359 00:19:31.079 --> 00:19:34.279 And uh, but the line they paid us for three hours, 360 00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:37.200 that was the deal. There were still at least seven 361 00:19:37.240 --> 00:19:39.119 hundred people in the line of three hours, and so 362 00:19:39.279 --> 00:19:42.559 the manager of Femal came to us in our ears 363 00:19:42.559 --> 00:19:46.000 we're signing and saying, hey, we don't want to disappoint anybody, 364 00:19:46.240 --> 00:19:48.599 would you guys stay an extra hour for half of 365 00:19:48.599 --> 00:19:51.599 what we paid you per hour? And we're like, well, heck, yeah, nice. 366 00:19:51.759 --> 00:19:56.400 I mean that everything else you made, Yeah, you had 367 00:19:56.440 --> 00:20:00.160 some some coins, seed money, and you had I had 368 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:04.079 a great idea because at the time Electioningdon did not 369 00:20:04.279 --> 00:20:08.680 have a certain franchise, so which you know, when you 370 00:20:08.680 --> 00:20:11.000 brought it up, I thought, yeah, I wonder why so 371 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:12.440 you investigated what? 372 00:20:13.279 --> 00:20:19.240 So I grew up appreciating, as sane rational people do, Yes, 373 00:20:19.359 --> 00:20:22.559 the gloriousness of the hot Krispy Kreme. Exactly when the 374 00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:25.519 hot light is not on, you don't go when the 375 00:20:25.559 --> 00:20:28.039 hot light is on, you get two dozen and you 376 00:20:28.079 --> 00:20:31.119 down them immediately. All right, hot, how that works out? 377 00:20:31.599 --> 00:20:34.119 So I decided because they the only one I'd ever 378 00:20:34.119 --> 00:20:36.880 been to is in Tallahassee, Florida, where where my mom's from. Gotcha, 379 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:39.079 And that was like a tradition. We'd get done for 380 00:20:39.160 --> 00:20:41.559 Christmas and on Saturday while we were there, Dad would 381 00:20:41.559 --> 00:20:43.200 go to Krispy Kremen and you come back with the cruelers. 382 00:20:43.200 --> 00:20:45.400 By the way, Krispy Kreme, your greatest mistake ever getting 383 00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:45.960 rid of the ruler. 384 00:20:46.720 --> 00:20:47.440 Didn't they really? 385 00:20:47.839 --> 00:20:50.200 They did? They Still you still find them, but they 386 00:20:50.240 --> 00:20:51.559 don't make them in their stores. 387 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:52.359 Really. 388 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:55.680 And let me tell you the greatest culinary experience of 389 00:20:55.680 --> 00:20:59.000 my life was happening to be in a Krispy Kreme 390 00:20:59.000 --> 00:21:01.640 because light was on. Is that's the rule? You don't 391 00:21:01.759 --> 00:21:04.119 pass the Krispy kreman. The hotline is on, right, you 392 00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:06.920 don't pass it. That is literally in the Bible, that's 393 00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:11.519 a sin. So so i'm I'm I'm in there, and 394 00:21:11.559 --> 00:21:13.519 they're not. It's the hot lights on, but they're not 395 00:21:13.519 --> 00:21:16.680 making their glaze. They're making their crulers. Oh my god. 396 00:21:16.799 --> 00:21:18.599 And I'm like, and I I already love coolers and 397 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:24.519 I'm thinking hot crulers. Is that possible? I mean, okay, 398 00:21:24.559 --> 00:21:26.720 so I got a dozen gracing I've ever put in 399 00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:27.079 my mouth. 400 00:21:27.319 --> 00:21:29.640 All I can think of is the scene from The 401 00:21:29.640 --> 00:21:34.680