Speaker 1: The best, not best.
Speaker 2: Hell, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to Travis told
you on a Wednesday, February twenty fifth, two thy twenty five.
I am your host, Travis. Now i'd say as usual,
but it's been a little bit. It's been a minute.
I'd have to actually take a look and see. I apologize, right,
as I've said countless times when I started this Monday
to Wednesday, I feel like I missed only a few
times and like Tuesday Thursday, working back for the GV schedule,
that's what we're gonna do. It's been a catastrophe, not
only because of content, but just because of life. Luckily,
life is like chaotic and anything bad happening, knock on
the wood. It's just been lots of kind of everything
my day job, life and then podcast schedules. Things is
changing all around. I'm just trying to map it all out.
So I do apologize that's not and that my plan
is to hopefully get back to that, but we'll see.
Like I'm still planning at least doing the trying to
hit the two episodes a week. My plan is still
do if anything, do one because obviously there's a lot
especially I think in March and April we got a
lot of stuff coming up. So and as I said before,
I was like, oh yeah, we're gonna do Tuesday and
Thursday for now for a little bit. I think even
in this month we might go back to Wednesday for
just this month until Eufouria starts. It's kind of all over.
It's just things that work better, things that don't. I digress.
But yeah, when was the last time it was? Oh,
when I did Worthering Heights. That was all the way
last week, right, February. Really, I feel super bad now
February seventeenth. Hey, so twelve days ago? Is that true? Hi? Yeah, yeah,
I apologize, you know, but I appreciate all of you
that always still listen come back. Like I said, I
try my best always always things are on the move,
I try my best to keep it going, get the
show consistently. So my hope to get back to the
two episodes. I should be next week, I should be good.
Let me just take a look in at the little
calendar here. I think next week's for sure gonna be
a Monday one because I'd probably like to talk about
the what is it the screen Box Office some other stuff,
but also there's just a lot of things that, like
the Resident Evil review that comes on the Tuesday, I
kind of let that like behind the scenes there's content
that we know that's gonna be kind of just listened
to that day or the day after, or the stuff
like literally on our calendar for December it's Avengers Doomsday
release and then the whole thing's blacked out because the
way it works sometimes in algorithms, some things are work better.
As far as the short form and the reviews, those
were better longer for me because when people click on
them or they're looking for the resviews, they're up in
the top where sometimes it's pushed down. Oh, they didn't
review Resident Evil, so which I'm very excited for. We
can't wait. We are twenty four hours, not twenty four hours,
but twenty four hours and some to that check out
side quest being done. Had a great conversation not only
about the Xbox stuff. Got to take a victory lap there,
but the Resident Evil ranking. I said on that, I
don't think I've been excited for a game since Red
Dead too, because I'm trying to think about it. Because
Desk Stranding, I was like optimistically curious about but worried
aspier Man two. I was excited, but I don't think
it reached the heights of the first one. Wolverine very
excited for but resident evil recreom Man. I'm very excited
to check out. Me and Dyl will be talking about that.
So next week I'm for sure gonna do one. Then
coming up we got the screen review. Was that tomorrow
and then we have the gimmick on Sunday. It's gonna
be talking about Chamber and hopefully do another victory lap
there for my draft win first of the year, hopefully,
I suppose when last year, I'm hoping to win this year,
and then next week I will. I guess there's two
notes I'd like to but patrons, I don't think I'm
gonna be able to do the Oscar predictions this year
with you guys, because one, I have to I'm trying
to watch all Peaky Blinders right now before March six
because I want to see the movie. I mean, Kirk
can plan review that. I am one season left to go,
so I think I can get that. But the thing
is I still have a bunch of Oscar movies actually
actually have to watch. What so the predictions might be
later than I wanted, and also just for like the
time wise, like the weekends I would do it, I'm
doing either other content or family stuff. So I'm gonna
try to see if I can go around. But Patriots,
I apologize this year for people that join me on
the Oscar predictions. I don't think it's happening this year.
We're still gonna do a pool. I'll probably announce in the
discord once I for sure know that, but something like
this weekend, that weekend's gone because I gotta play resident Evil,
make sure I can review that properly, right, So I
don't think it's gonna happen this year. I plan. I
don't think this is like me killing or anything we
did two years in a row. I'd fairy much like
to do the after nine oscars. It's just sometimes the
way it works out. And like I said, I want
to be able to watch them all make a full
even some commentary on them, right, So that might be
end up doing just like a Traps Told You episode.
Very likely I'd say like eighty percent right now, and
then next week for the patrons, I'm gonna talk about it.
I'll make a little post about it. But I've talked
about this for years. I finally want to do this.
We're doing the March Madness and we're gonna get the
news today is a bunch of like pretty quick hits,
but like there's some good juicy stuff here, like I'll
reread it down hearing. Let me forget to that. We're
talking about this Variety report that came out today. It's
some of the new CEOs and talking about their feelings
on mail Or and Grogu, Doomsday and Starfighter. We're gonna
talk about some Batman three and brain bull shenanigans. It's
just kind of one stuff to dispute and say, Okay,
if this was true, how would I feel? But also
just like fellow podcasters and like man, like I just
I get it. It's a grind and we all gotta
get those headlines. But I was super disappointed last week
by some feel it was just like okay, like like
this was kind of disproven, but you're still I'll get
into right, It's a mini trass rant talking Mortal Comet
two trailer, some Resident Evil news, box office predictions, and
break down. Mike has some scream questions. So yeah, that's
what we're talking about a bunch of quick hits today,
just kind of quick catch up and everything. But so
my plan next week is to do news on the Monday,
talk about stuff, and then on the Wednesday or Thursday,
we'll see. I'll just see which works better. Uh yeah,
it might be yeah, I don't know. I'll see the
TVD on that, but yeah, I think the Wednesday cause
weekly g I think in March pretty much Traves told
you is. My plan's trying to do too, but it's
gonna be a bit influx. And even the live aspect,
I've been wanting to but some stuff with the day job.
Luckily it's nothing like my job riz or feeling on
fire or something like. That's just like there's been some
changes and some stuff, and we were going through a
lot of changes there at work. And that's where it's
like before it's like, oh, I always know I can
atch out. This time, I don't really know that, and
I don't like it doesn't do well as far as
always bumping the time up. So I will say that
for now there might be and it could be a
little bit for foreseeable future, the live aspect is gonna
be kind of a TVD, you know, and then there
might be just a few little things too near the
end before the U when especially too like, yeah, it's
tough because I got Spring break coming up with that,
and I'll be watching the Girls sometimes and then i'll
have when Summer break happens, so we'll see. I think
it's gonna be TVD. I've thought about maybe, you know,
maybe one week will be live and then the other
one won't. And I think stuff like this one the
March Madness actors would be a good thing. I've talked
about doing this for a long time. So I'm just
gonna do this plug and then I'll get out of
here and we'll talk like today, you won't talk about
the news, but just so you know, someone's like, ah,
you guys should just get to the big net. Get
to the news. No, no, no, that's something I want
to promote. If you are in my voice, did you
hear that that crack? I'm so sorry that was very loud,
that crack, big time there something croaked there. For years,
I've wanted to do a March Madness style bracket, and
I got other ideas. So if this is a hit,
I'd love to make this yearly an annual thing, but
I want to decide with the GV community, who do
we think is the best current day actor. So it's
gonna happen, and this is for anyone on the page.
You know what, I'll do this, even if it's the
free tier, I'll let you submit an actor. Usually it's
all the tears because this is a fun thing. You
got to go to Patreon because we've said before there
is stuff on the free tier. Go the other tiers.
There's tons of content right now. Soon you're getting the
Bran Butter with Me and Dyl next twenty four hours,
you're getting The Punisher first film with all longer retrospective.
Early for producers, there's tons of stuff. This weekend, the
voting starts for the MCU and the regular Golden Geeks.
Our Patreon's flowing, like we just added I'm not gonna
say what it is. We added another one off retrospective
this year. So it's like when I said over fifty episodes,
I feel like by time we get bad to the year,
it's gonna be about sixty. If you want to Patreon
producer tier, you're getting an episode for every week of
the year pretty much, and then some so great stuff
there ad free early episodes, close episodes, but I will
put it on the free tierhere. What's gonna happen is
I'm going to make the list. Okay, I'm gonna make
the list. I think March Madness does like the thirty
two right teams. I'm pretty sure I'm not a basketball guy.
I think they do the thirty two teams. So what
I'm gonna do, It's gonna be thirty two actors. Doesn't
matter if it's he, she, they, non binary, doesn't matter
if you think there's somebody. So it's like Golden Geeks
where we make the nominees. But you guys vote, and
obviously i'll vote. I'll be like a tie breaker vote,
I guess if it comes down to it. But yeah,
that's what I do. I'll put the polls out and
I won't vote unless it has to be a time breaker.
I'm gonna let you guys do because you guys know
where I stand. You know who I think is the
ray ast actor right now. Maybe you'll agree, maybe it won't,
but I just thought it'd be fun to see what
you guys and gals and everyone else in between thinks.
So I will make the nominees the players, the fighters,
but I want you to suggest anybody that you think
could be in there. My only thing is I'm saying
it's present day, not of all time, present day, So
I want you to kind of think their body of
work has to be within the last ten years. I'll say,
because we're just twos and twenty six, i'd say, in
honor of the podcast, twenty fifteen and on, who do
you think in that time? And I know you might say, like, oh,
is it the best actor really of today and stuff? No,
but just kind of the body of work of Okay,
maybe they've had a couple of stumbles, you know, like
a Fastbenner. Do I know he's making a list? I
actually don't know if he is, But like twenty fifteen
to twenty ten or twenty twelve or twenty twenty, I
would have easily made a case for all the time
he's the best actor currently right, And I still think
the killer the agency I think was the agency that
was in still given great performances. So that's why I'm
giving a ten year span right now. And maybe we'd
like update this like every five years and then kind
of go from that way. But just to the parameters
and it doesn't matter. Could be TV, could be movies,
whatever you think, like whatever you want to put up
there as a oh this is why they're great. Do
that off. See if it's like a fucking play or
something or Broadway, I'm not gonna accept that because I
don't have you know that that backing. But then also
same thing as like it's gonna be still like a traus,
you know, bias list, because if you suggest someone that's
great a TV show, I have seen it, that's tough
for me. Right if that person comes up multiple times.
And here's the thing. If you and the commentsant Patreon
see the post and you see an actor's name already
brought up, still put them there because it comes down
that spot where I've met my thirty one thirty two spot,
don't know who to put in. I will go and
put in like I'll look at these names and if
someone has a higher count as far as backing, then
I'll go, Okay, let's let's give it to them. Right,
So that's what I'm doing. Look out for that. I'll
make that post maybe on the maybe on the weekend,
I'll I'll I might even do that Friday, But look
out for it because I want to have something together.
I'll probably record that Wednesday. So there you go. So
let's get into some news right now. Let me pull
up the thing here, where is it? Because yeah, so
Variety put this report, and obviously it's a report, so
you don't know what's one hundred percent true, what's a
hundredercent not true? But they are an Steer Scooper. It's
more of a general there's a whole thing about the
CEO and the changeover Disney because obviously, as we've talked
about many times, you know, if you're tired of me harping,
but I'm gonna again change over at Star Wars, changeover
at Xbox, change over Disney. Massive brands and ips and
things we follow are they they're changing at a rapid rate.
S be I see you, Sharon, what I'm gonna talk
about in this headline right here? And that's what changed
the main main topic for me because it was very interesting.
So just to start off here, Disney's board elevated, Entertainment
chief Entertainment chief Waldron to let's see, oh okay, let
me screw change that up. Disney's board elevated sometimes it
should be comes entertainment chief Dana Waldron or Walden to
help bounce at the creative leadership structure under the incoming
CEO of Josh de Mora. Demora lacks any film or
TV experience, which plague chap chay Pick's short tenure, which
we heard about, right, that was a big deal, and
this comes into it. Unlike Chappick Chapik, who stripped the
power away from all the media chiefs, Demora is expected
to grant Walden greater autonomy with creatives. Josh is not
afraid to surround himself with people who know more about
something that he does. A former Disney executive now serving
at Netflix CEO. And there's the full thing. Right, that
was just a big That was one of the bigger
talking points. Because the reason I'm bringing this up is
when the Chapick thing happened, Bob Chapick Chaypick. I think
it's Chapick, right. I don't know why I've been saying
chap Pick the whole time now, but Bob Chapic when
that happened, there was a lot of things that went down,
and it's not completely all him. There's stuff that ire
put in place that happened, right, but still one of
the reports that we did hear at the time. And
I don't think it ever got to the level of
Foggy versus Pearl Mutter, because that really gone ahead button.
And I think there was some situation where it was
kind of like two to three projects came out and
it's cemented fig He's like, yeah, he's the guy, because
that Pearl Mutter was the guy that's like, we're not
making Black Panther, we're not making Captain Marvel. They don't
sell blah blah blah. I think he tryed to do
like a hostile takeover of Disney through the board or
something a couple of years ago, right like very mega
like like ultra mega like type of views where just
seems like he's kind of a white sex's pig in
no sense, right, And I guess, sure he's motivated, my bunny,
but like sure Captain Marvel too bomb. But look at
the first one, look at Black Panther. So at the time,
Foggy was right to make those moves when they didn't
want to, and he turned out being right right. That
could have been the ones that did. But I remember,
I think I think there's rumors it was that Captain
Marvel or at least Black Panther maybe both of them
were supposed to come out or they wanted to do
with him in phase two, and he kind of put
the kaibash on that, right, So I don't think it
was that levels. But if people forget that Chapik Japik
when he took the head office and whatnot, he started
to put other people under him that would go take
some power from people like Figy. And that was a
big thing where not only were they said, hey, make
a bunch more content. We need content, content, content. And
again it's not all like we don't know all these things, right,
they still have to. We talked about how thin like
thinly spread, you know, butter over too much bread that
Figiy a couple of years ago got spread as far
as his talent. People said that before when they could
get a hold of them and talked to about projects,
he would just be missing, and not because he's hiding,
just like they can't get him because he's so busy,
go and tear at all these places. Right, And even
though on the Disney Plus side a lot of animations happen,
there's tons of stuff that they have at least gone
back on, right, Deadpool Maverine won filming year this year
through them. I know Bryman's there, but through them one
film a year. Right with Doomsday, we've seen adjustments happen,
and all those systems could have been for stuff they
did that they thought were good ideas and we're bad, right,
But that was a big thing where Figgy lost some power,
and that to me never fucking made any sense whatsoever.
Like I'm not trying to be a Figy Mark, but
the guy, even though Avatar got its crown back, the
guy finally made a movie that denounced Avatar took that
crowns the biggest movie of all time. That film made
a billion dollars in one weekend. Like there was no
hider time to be with with Taylor, leave me alone.
I'm not talking about taxes. Come on now, he knows
him on air, asked me about GV taxes. Get a
fucking account in, my friend, come on. So it just
it was crazy, right, the fact that MSU was the
highest they could ever get. And that's when like, you
know what, we're gonna take some of your power away.
We were gonna, you know, you're gonna do this, this,
this and I think the other thing was wasn't like
a big execut I think it was like another Chapick
brought like another park guy, right, because Chapick was a
Chapik and Chapick Bob Bob bad, but why games a
bad Bob? But Bob number two like he was a
big Parks guy, just like Josh Demari is here, right,
So that was the fear of like, hey, this didn't
really work out last time. And I think the people
he brought above Fagging and others were other like park people.
So it's not like, hey, bad example, right, But we're
bringing in Steven Spielberg, We're bringing in George Lucas. You know,
maybe not Lucas, but you know someone that you know,
they're not directing, they're not producing this stuff, but they
want to be in a big company, so you're gonna
go report them. Do I think Steve Spielberg should be
like ahead of like figging ms, you know, because they
think he does different things. But at least you Okay,
I could see this point X, Y, and Z when
it's bringing up people that I'm not gonna say don't
know what they're doing, but haven't exactly specialized in this area,
which people can change all the time, right, but when
it's at the height, I think it's different if it
was a changeover or even now like which I think
they're not doing that M shoes had their shoes. You
can make a case for now they oh, well we're
gonna take this. This is away from five, right. I
think it's the opposite of like, hey, this thing's not
going greatest, Let's get someone in there that might have
a better idea, like they said with this, Uh who
was the person there with Dana Waldron? Like is there
a person or Dana? Is that a person that's probably
more in tune with what's going on. Doesn't mean it's
a good fit, right, We don't know that for sure.
We don't get to know most of the stuff that
goes on, right, And same thing chappick jpick whichever you
wanna call it was said to be at first at
that point they were happy with that pick, right, but
then I had to come in retirement. So we're hoping
that's what that means for the properties, that these things
can kind of run on a little bit more smoothly.
So here's where we get into some things where they
kind of have their sources and talk to different execs
and everything like that. So there's three things here. It's
about Doomsday, Mandalorian, and Starfighter. Oh excuse me. So Disney
execs are reportably very plea with what they've seen in
the Vengers Doomsday. Sources say the film division doesn't believe
the healthy mcu hinges on any single title. Rival studio
heads privately predict that Doomsday will be the hot years
high as grossing film. I know why they had to privately, like,
I know it's your company, but I feel like you
can easily look and be like, yeah, that will probably
be the biggest movie for X, Y and Z. Right,
So that's kind of like why even like you can
put your name on that, right, But that's fine. They
don't want to reveal sources. So two things. I think
obviously that's good, right. That doesn't mean it's a perfect film.
We're gonna be a great film, but that's a good
thing that they're confident with it. It's not like a
it'd either like we can how do I word this?
We don't know what execs and joy It's the same
thing as test screens. You can't take those bank at
all because you don't know the person's enjoy but I say,
at least, at least this is a more positive report
than dizzy scrambling and really wondering what the fuck's going
on over there with Avengers Doomsday. Right there's like, okay,
this is looking good and we have to see where
the That does not mean it's gonna end up being
as great as the other ones or be a success
as far as critical, but at least that's a good
thing that okay, hopefully the wheels are moving in good fashion.
This source of source, as the film division doesn't believe
the healthy mcu hinges on any single title. I can
see that perspective a little bit with the other movies,
because you can make a case for, oh, well, you
had the Marvels, and ye had man Kwan Mania and
he had Thunderbolts, and then you also had Doctor Strange
and thor Love and Thunder and I did pull the
Wolverine right it's by now home. I can see now
where they go. Well, it doesn't really matter if one bombs,
that's on in the next one. We're gonna we're gonna
make do with that. I believe that in a current
state right now, I think it is like a Okay,
last year, the film's all kind of underperformed, but we're
on Avengers Dooms. They were even Spider Men, right, and
that can kind of save us. I agree with that,
or even a better project, you know, though I loved
both Thunderbolts and Fantas, or maybe just something better. As
far as for the general public, they're more interested in right. Okay. Sure,
I have said this for a while, so I'm sorry
if I'm repeating it for people. But I believe this,
and I this is where I push back a little bit.
This idea of it doesn't the healthy msuit doesn't hinge
on a single title to a degree, because I still
think Doomsday is a big chance to get a lot
of lapse fans back. So I'm not saying that let's
say Doomsday and let's let you say Secret Wars just
disappoint overall critically fan wise, who knows what money, but
it that way, right, kind of similar to me or
it's the big division, right, because of course you'll have
to like I hate End Game. They did, okay, sure,
but the majority of the general audience loved that movie
and went back more and more for Right chem Out
and Droves right, I'm talking about those type of people,
and that's we're gonna find out. But the film will
talk about next. But with Ryse Skywalker, to me, it
felt like and he was sold, but it felt like
that caused a vision and made people less interest in
the brand. So I'm not saying if Secret Wars and
Doomsday fail on that level right to kind of reunite
the fan base or just get people excited for it,
I'm not saying, oh, Marvel's dead, they can never do
this again. No, they can still do another Avengers film
down the line. They got X when they got Spider Man.
To me, it is like a bonus. And I think
there is some people that if they're on the edge
of having superhero fatigue, if an Avengers film disappoints, I
think that is a you know what, I'm good with
superhero stuff, you know, like, I'm not that way right now.
Game Throws, I'm gonna watch it, but with nice Sevin Kings,
which I hear is great. When I got another spinoff,
I was just like, ah, I'm kind of good with
Game of Thrown spinoffs.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Now that's the thing. I've heard great things from Taylor
and Kirkland. I've heard great things from other people that
has made me go, Okay, I'm gonna check out that
show now it's done. That's the same way I'm talking
about with the Doomsay are Secret Wars right, Even those
people that might be a little on the fence, if
they hear it's great, okay, I'll go see in the
theater where if they hear it's bad or they hear
it's nina. I think you can push people away on
these bigger, bigger films. I think the bigger films, I
think the health, not the entirety of the health, but
at least a good percentage of it will kind of
uer kind of show the path of what you're gonna
have to deal with in the next phase as far
as getting people in, because before when and I'm this
person says they did not have a failing film to
am in quantum media. So when people go, oh, it
was eventually gonna fail, to me, it's not a I
don't believe the thing that, oh, if it's a good film,
people will come out. No. But it was the brand right,
and I think with ant Man and other things, the
second these films started to get a little waving, and
they didn't have the full quality that I think they
used to in the past to at least even be
a six out of ten and tell this natural story
in a progression way that all made sense. Again, also
not even quality, just the whole storyline was very all
over the place. That's when people start to check out.
To me, it's no coincidence that when we got rocky
roads in the MCU, like really rocky roads, not just like, hey,
why is Tony start trying to get the Hulk in
the Avengers? But that isn't sensely right, not that type
of stuff, not a little stuff when like multiple projects
in a row got rocky the MCU and success got rocky, right,
strike COVID also happened that really led like pounded down
out too right. But to me, the fact that those
things happen and then the mcup's kind of checked out,
that's the thing, right, Like even Emily she enjoyed the MCU,
but she's like she didn't catch up on some stuff,
but she didn't feel the need to go watch everything
because she was disappointed by some stuff or just didn't
feel Okay, I I'm not invested anymore, right, So I
don't exactly agree. I think the big event films are
that is your super Bowl, that is your way to
get people in that are never in right. And I
think if Doomsay and Secret Wars hit a home or
get the person home. I'm not gonna say hit a
home run, but get the player home, then it's a win,
or even the third base maybe, right. If it's a
double a single orn out, then I think there's a
lot of people where the Avengers and Marble won't get
back to where it was before, right, they might not
be as excited for X Men or the next project.
So I don't fully agree with that. Now we get
to the Star Wars port the story. Uh, some Disney
staffers are confirmed or or are concerned that the unconventional
thirty second Super Bowl spot for Malon and Grogu failed
to spark excitement, like like it's one of these things
again where it's like, oh oh, someone privately says this.
It's like they're concerned. There's no concern, like it it happened,
that was nothing. They spent all that money. And that's
why I'm so curious about Star Wars and where they
are right, because we don't know if it's bullshit. There's
so much stuff that happens. But with we always thought
it was okay, Disney does a thing, and of course
you have to check in with people, but most time
Figgy makes his decisions, Kathy makes his decisions right, And
we don't know if this was Kathy called before she
left or Felony and President. But still it's weird when
we hear like, hey, they want to bring Robert Downy
back as arm or just back and then he's gonna
play doctor Doom. Well we got a clear lie here.
It's like, oh really. And same thing with the Hunter
for Ben's soul thing. Right, we heard thought all this
time in Star Wars, maybe putting the kybosh on some
of these projects. They go, I don't see how Kyle
Ren can be alive, so don't do that. So this
is what I wonder and I'll see this is the
marketing apartment, right, so it's its own different department. I
just feel like, when the brand is the way it
is and the Super Bowls coming up, is there not
more eyes on this? Is there not somewhere like hey,
what you guys doing for it?
Speaker 1: All?
Speaker 2: This is the idea And maybe they went all that
sounds fun. I remember their clientes. They'll had cool, but
then they see the go oh, actually that didn't play.
Maybe me and Taylor and we're not alone. Many people
speculated that's why that trailer come out. They definitely took
a blow. That was one of those I always talk about,
like in the boxing match, they took a punch and
they fell down. The knockout is we'll see what may
twenty second, what happens, but they they're on the ropes
right now for sure. And I don't even think that
trailer caused excitement. The biggest thing it caused for us
was I like that kid. We got a meme out
of it. I've seen people not talk about this thing
many places, And granted I'm not online as much as
I am anymore, but for those times sporting events, big
trailers cons I am on when I'm collecting news and
you see people talking about and you see you just
see the algorithms. Now, right, that wasn't much. I saw
those videos where it was like, oh, four or five
hours where it took for this trailer hit like a million. Now, granted,
stats on youtubes always take a bit time to catch up,
but still there's other trailers that do that in thirty
minutes an hour. So it's just there is such a
lack of excitement I think for this movie. I think
we are getting that Thunderbolts three hundred and four, and
I still lean to four hundred, like a four point fifty.
But that's where I'm just always curious where Okay, if
they were like what do they track and when do
they not track as far as their brands that they
are watching over them, right, So, yeah, they're concerned the
thirty second spot failed to sparking excitement. Uh, don't be concerned.
It's a true thing and you need to be concerned
about that. And I agree with this Pubse's not in
the chat, but he put three hundred and four hundred
million lock it in. They're already getting ahead and saying, well,
Stars fans will actually enjoy a Starfighter more. Laway, And
that's exactly what I taught, like thought about this because
then the next two Saints. It's where there's a sense
that Sean leaves Starfighter is more likely to satisfy the
Star Wars fans when it hits theater's next spring. Sources
who's seen the footage praise Ryan Gosslin's worms and suggests
Levy has recaptured the franchise's spirit of fun, and that
word recaptured. I promise you we're going to hear that
a lot. I guarantee you they're gonna run with that. That's
gonna be like a buzzword or a word adjacent to that,
because I agree with that. I suppose that already, because yes,
these are them talking to sources. But as we've seen
a news all the time in sports, in wrestling, some
news gets out there on purpose that's supposed to pay. Hey,
this is a this is a rumor, right. There is
a notorious wrestling personality that would go to a Scooper
whenever they want something out and put out there, and
everyone was kind of like, oh, that's a Paul Hayman thing, right,
Like that's from that guy, and you would know one
hundred percent because not from them, but it's just like
the way it was worded or just this particular like
situations like oh that comes from that person, right, and
that does kind of feel like a oh you know,
and at it again, it's as long as it makes
that amount, because I think what they've said, it's like
one eighty seven. Let's wait till we get the actual budget,
but let's say it's even two hundred. If they make
four hundred, that's probably better than what they'd make on
doing Disney plus, because I think all the subs that have,
for the most part, unless they get like a Stranger
Things or Game Thrones phenomenon on their hands, I think
the subs are just gonna go up and down as
it goes around based on a few content and like
what the price is that month? Right, I think I
don't think Man Lauri and Grogus season three would have
or season four now would have made subs go up
because of the quality of those shows. Now right, we
talked about that that the viewership was way down or
Man Law in season three. Who knows, maybe people just
checked out that's some other stuff, whatever it may be.
People are watching it last, so they probably saw the
writing on the wall. And then plus ma Wanta two,
Hey let's just make some money. So that's where it
feels like, this is just let's take season four, make
it in the movie, make what we can with it,
and then really focus on Starfighter. I do believe they
probably had that feeling beforehand. I just think that to
the degree that they've focused on Maneloren is even lesser
than I even thought they would. I thought it would
be like, let's get out there, see it Grogu does,
and then make our money and move on to Starfire
and promote that. Because that's coming out on the Stars
fiftieth Anniverse, You're gonna have new hope. I do think
they're gonna really like, we're gonna get to a sense
where it's almost like ann Quantamania or Eternals Maeler and
Grogu when it comes out than in a year or two.
It's never gonna feel like it even came out. It's
just gonna feel like a thing that they just like
shadow dropped on the world. Right, And I could be wrong.
We never know, Like there's stuff in the box off
that's crazy that surprised me. And then a Starfighter who
knows like is more likely to satisfy stars fans. I
would think that because like I'm hoping that Starfighters not
just gonna seem like a TV movie, right, and then
sources the same At Ryan Gosson's performance, there's no surprise
And again this is just like just saying shit, right,
because oh Ryan Gosslin's greatened it. Yeah, sure, I believe
that because Ryan Gosson's won the best in the world.
I probably have them on that list of that. Uh,
that'ss but we'll see.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And then's just Levy recapture the Franchi and the spirit
of fun. I can see him doing that. That's not
exactly what I want recaptured for Star Wars. I kind
of want the magic to be recaptured, not just the fun.
But I get what they're saying there. So before we
move on toer and Mike says, uh, do you think
MC you can keep using nostalgia as a cheat code
when it comes after Secret Wars? Sorry, I do not
mean to coffeent create there. That's a good question, and
I will talk about that after this first that break
and we are back. I think it's a two for
Mike because I think if Secret Wars and Doomsday goes well,
then yes, right, they can say this is the closing
the multiverse. Eh, the multiverse can always reopen, right, very easy.
We've seen comebooks. Nothing's ever sacred, right, So I think
if these work, yes, And the thing about nostalgia is
there's always a new generation experiencing her right. So at
some point Mike World, when we're fifty or sixty or whatever,
and now there's people like my kids right for them,
like I watch Garfield and totally with them. But I'm
excited when we go see Spider Man. I think everyone
will see it, especially Ellie, my third daughter. She is
like super into Spider Man right now. She'll loves spidering friends.
We're watching the nineties amated show. She's like in the
live action movies that we're watching, she's like all in
on Spidy. So it's great, very excited to watch the
real life movie with her when we get there. And
that's what we call it, the live action movie. We
call it real life because live action wasn't transcending over
to them. But that's the thing where for those kid
mics when we're you know, Ellie who's four years old,
when we're old and dusty. For them, when they see
Tom Hollme come back as Spider Man the same age
as Toby, right, like it as forties or fifty, that's
their nostalgia, right. So that's where it's like, even if
doomsday and secret Wars don't work, I don't think people
will be worried about that in twenty years, right, Like,
I think that's a more ten year fact, even fifteen.
But once you get to twenty, like definitely thirty people
have moved on. And if it's that thing where it's
just like, oh now, let's say Marvel. Let's say Secret
Wars and Doomsday both completely suck, right, and they damage
the brand and the MCU dies Like this iteration. All
that it takes is okay, look at what happened from
Batman Robin to Batman begins. Right. Let's say Figy goes away.
The brand either goes away or puts out a few
movies once in a while, and there's like a five
year break or whatever, and they put out phase one
of this or phase two or whatever they don't call
them phases, and they start to go again. You can
save the brand that way with some time. Right. So
that's why for me, I think nossage you can never
kill it. So I'm gonna say, as far as for art,
like the kids and people that are the next generations, no,
because they'll want to see the Tom Hollands the other
people like for us it's Chris Evans, but whoever they
cast that cabin Erecica they might want to see them
come back, right the same way as where people grew
up with Ray and Kylo and Finn and Poe, like,
they'll want them to come back for these Star Wars movies, right,
same thing, Hayden, right, Like people were very much excited
to see Hey back for Ahsoka. So in the long
term effects note in the short term, I mean, it
all depends on the movies, because I think if it
gets to a point where it just feels like it's
just cheap ai cut scene fan service, Like, to me,
that's what the Mario movie is like. If the and
people like the Mario movie, And this is the thing,
Mike right, in my opinion, the Mario movie is very
mediocre and the Minecraft movie not good. I think both
of those kind of have like nostalgia fans service at
their core. So that's where it's like, even if those
these movies are like a six, five, four, a ten,
but they kind of hit on some big moments that
make you remember what you felt, then I think they're okay.
So I think that I think for me, my biggest
concerns are the story of this movie and the story
of how it impacts the past. MC I don't care
as much as the future because that's not written the past, right,
Like just little rumors we've heard about the Steve Rogers stuff,
not only him coming back. I don't like. It's just
like certain storylines that I don't know what I've talked
about an air that are out there. It's just like
I had. Really, I don't like, like this would actively
hurt my enjoy like Scrody, right, like Scrawl Roady if
they never confirm, but if they go back and be like, oh, yes,
since Civil War Roady was a scrawl, Yeah, that impacts
it that that's a shit decision right there. So for me, though,
what I'm saying is a story of characters, the story,
the plot, and what it's done to the MCU, that's
stuff I'm worried about. I think the hype moments and
the nostalgia and the fans service, I think they do
a pretty good job of that, the MSU and the RUSSO,
so I think they'll nail that. And if they nail
that stuff, I think the g will be fine with
still like nostalagi and fan service as we go along.
So I think they got that going on. I think
they'll be okay. So yeah, let's see here. What do
we gotten next? Oh? Okay, so this is what happened
with the Batman right before I got busy and I
couldn't do another cast. My topic was gonna because Clay
had shared this to me and they went around. There
was a Scooper Daniel rb K. I put them on
the beat here there's a report coming going around that
in his discord and I'm paraphrasing bringing up because it
was just proven gone right, but he said A gun
wants Batman three, Like uh god, uh streamline, you're just
fast forward or whatever, like fast tracked. He wants a
fast tracked because he's kind of come to the conclusion that,
you know, he doesn't want to Batman coming around, so
he'd rather just Matt Reeves finished trilogy, get that off
and then you can have Batman come in. Right, And
for me, I was like, oh, that is perfect because
that's what I've been pitching. Right, I'm saying, you don't
know what happens, and we'll bring up buck as fan McClay,
who did you know check out Star Wars, Lions and
the other things. Do is range your alliance on the
gua Gee cultive Alliance Network or network reproduce over there.
He did point out something that I completely agree with.
But I've been saying for a while that if the
dc you can rock and roll for a little bit
and you got some hits, wait on Batman. We've gotten
so much Batman. They're doing Batman over there with passing,
finish that off, kill it, and you know, in a
sense of just that franchise. After three, you can't do
more spin off shows or more. But so let's say
three it's done and then bring your bam because people
always gonna want to see Batman, right, it's not they
can be saying when we gonna get there, when we're
gonna get there. They were saying about the Fantastic Four
and X Men and the MCU right now. Granted they
didn't show up in droves for Fantastic Four, but I
think for X Men they will right or even Spider
Man when Spyder getting in there. That people will wait
for the characters that they truly love. So I could
still see the DCU going for three to four years,
even five and no Batman and it could thrive. Now,
the reverse of that rumor when we thought it could
have been true is a couple of movies bomb don't
do the well, then yeah, you got to hit the
Batman button right, And that's what Clay SA and I
completely agree. Where a couple movies underperform A got it's
time you do Batman right now? Right? So, but then
won't happen there's because it's this uh page called everything DC,
which I don't know if I I think I do
fall because I just fall multiple news counts because you
never know what you miss, right. We look at s
TR news all the way to I'd say, cee tier
d tier d tier is where we draw a line,
you know, that's where we draw a line. But it
happened they put that out there, okay, and I think
it's like a discord that you gotta be patreon for
and that's why I see it. And then RpK came
on said I didn't say this at all, and we did.
He never fully clarified, but he just like, I didn't
say this, I didn't report this. So I'm not sure
if he said something that people misconstrued or it was
just completely made up, but he had just said that
I didn't say this, right, so that topic I had
went okay, well, I'm gonna take that away because I
know we've had pushback, and luck we haven't lately because
I feel like I think the last two years we've
been fine. I thinking a couple of years before, people
like in the survey said a couple of things, but
I think they understand a preference now. And when I've
said stuff like the reason we cover I'll always use example,
we cover Seatier news because the week before comic com
Me and Della uncovered a sea tear rumor of down
he's playing Doctor Doom and it seems stupid and dumb,
shouldn't be a thing. And then it came out, oh,
that's actually true, right, because sometimes people do have sources,
they work in the industry or have a friend and
industry that's how it happens, right, So to me, that's
where we cover him. That's why I think it justifies
the ce tears of b tears more the news because
it's just also because it's fun to speculate. It's that
idea of let's just talk about right, same thing as
casting members. I like talking about the idea of Okay,
what if this person was doing that, how would we
feel about that? Right? But when it's a even a
B tier. And the person comes out and says, I
didn't report this, and I go, okay, as much as
I would have loved to dive deep and talk more
about it, I can't make that a really main topic. Okay, fine,
and I don't do that, and I got busy, so
it was okay. I didn't end up doing a show.
And then I see most podcasts that I either follow
or don't follow because if you listen to one, algorithms
like you might like this topic, right, and what bugged
the shit out of me? What bugged me so much?
And I'm not getting drop names. It's fine, and it
would'tven it would be like a big argument if it did.
But just like I, And there was one I listened to,
and then when I don't listen to and I listened
to because I didn't listen to the topic because it's
like it's a nothing topic because it's it's not happening, right,
But both I listened to him, the person that I
like listen to frequently, and then a person that I
don't just was curious they talk about this port and
they just never even mentioned that like that the person
that the source is from like, oh, it's from this.
They don't mention all this person came out dispute it,
and it's like days later, it's not just the same day.
And that's what And I get it. That happens to
people all the time. Happened to myself a couple of
weeks ago. Right, I think SPO's a guy in the chair.
I think a little bit different that I do work
very hard on The Geek for his podcast. We work
all the time. I think sometimes we work harder than
the people that do as a fucking full time living.
Sometimes I listen to podcasts or see what they produce,
it's like the amount of stuff we're reducing. I feel
like we are better than many people there that sometimes
just half asset that are just like ah, we can
do just do this, or there's a certain type of content.
But I digress. Right, that's fine. There's a chip on
my shoulder where it's just like, yeah, this following why
you do that? And I put as much time as
possible as I can. But this is still not my
day job, right, it's not my current full time job.
So there's stuff I'm gonna miss, Like the saw thing
a couple of weeks ago when I was talking about
James want directing it, and then it came out that
someone got misquoted and he wasn't directing, and SPO's pointed
that out and I missed that right, so I know
it can happen. And that though was within the twenty
four hours. This was days later, and people were reporting
this as like a thing of like, oh, even though
it's a small tears, we're here in Ron, we're talking
about this, and it's like, I don't think it's a
lack of research. I think it's well, this will get
some clicks, right, And I get it. We all have
to do that. There's seo, there's titles, there's things that
you even got to word them away where it's like okay,
not that it's like mischievous, but just like, what is
the especially when it comes to spoilery stuff, it's tough
to talk about, but like, what's the best way to
get the bang fruit buck for people to listen or
download to justify obviously doing an episode right because the
amount of episodes we do now we could never do
for free. And that's why we love Beyond Speaker, and
that's why we especially love people on Patroon because you
guys support us and make it that we can do
all this content for you, So we love you for that.
But that's where I just get to know when I
listen to it, and because it's like, oh, it's gonna
hurt their revenue, hurt the story, they don't talk about it, right,
They're like, all, we're not gonna say so it's just like, man,
that little that I saw that and I was like
that just as a mini rant just bugged me that
people were doing that and not talking about the disproving
of it, because it's like, is that even like a
main story worthy? Because my I had is the main
story today? Was going to talk about that idea of
you like, because what happens is the more those thumbnails
and podcasts go around And I'm not somebody I really
don't care as far as because I've said this to
on blocker stream, because there's a couple of a couple
of people in there that really care about the stuff.
I don't care about scoopers and like their personal stuff
or their drifting At Da da DA, that's where we
talk about it as news. We talk about the tear,
we say what they've gone right, and knock out right
as far as our percentage of how much we would
believe it, and then we just have fun to talk
about the news. Right, it's not life for deaf situation
say thing to these people. I'm not gonna hold the
knife drift Thromb, but you did this. It was just
crazy to me that this was going on. And then
that's what happened was I kept seeing people like aggregate
this news. It's like a thing, and then it's just
got to the point where that's what it is. Now
that he's faster, I Batman three and and James then
of course come and set out no, no, this is happening.
That doesn't matter me because guns like you kind of
you know, played with the truth a couple of times
more than once the past couple of years and since
he's been in the head. But it was just crazy
once it's steamrolled. So it's like, what I like that
room to be true. Sure, that'd be great because I
feel like you'd leave Matt he's alone and we can
wait on Batman. But he said it wasn't right. And
even stuff like we talked about this on the Gimmick.
Sometimes there's something that will happen on a wrestling program
and then almost like right after a scoop will come
up back, well, this is the plan's going that forward.
It's like, technically, yes, I'm sure someone said, oh, this
angle leads to this, but everybody with a fucking set
of eyes and ears could have figured that out if
you watch wrestling, like as a big fan. So it's like,
is this really a scoop we talk about all the
time of like I could have made account set I'm
a scooper and scooped this and then got it right right,
So there was a scoop going around too, where it's like, oh,
well they'll bury and the Bowler're gonna heavily feature the
al Ghouls and some of their stories. It's like, well,
no shit, no matter what, even Italian ras aren't in
the first one, Damien is an ol Ghoul, his mother
is fucking Tallehol. And it's not something like oh, years
ago they said this and then James Gunn announced it right,
It's like, oh, okay, they had it on the Mundy.
They had heard rumblings about the Algals being the burying bolt,
and here it is. It's like, this is not this
is not scoop, Like this story. Excuse me. The story
is based off those characters, so it's that to me,
it's like, but you know, I see it spread. It's like,
all right, I get it. Slow slow newsweek. Right. So
there's my mini rant on the Batman not much news.
Hoping to get some more casting for the Batman soon.
I would love to get some of these other people
cast as far as we got Harveydn's dad, and I
think there's some other rules. So very excited for all that.
Let's see here, what did I have less? Because I
got what about how much time? I got about half
an hour left? So I think I hit on all
the topics here. But I will go to the box
office one first, because oh World come back to I'll
hit on that, and then I'll talk about the other
stuff quickly. But box I'll still talk about more because
I got a question from Mike, and then the other
news I can't get to it. I'll say it for
next time. But Smaller World comeback too. Tra came today.
It looks good. I don't get me wrong. I still
think this is a movie that you could easily cut
into like a very fun trailer. I think that this
is that I think people that, and I didn't care
that much because it's a video game adapt right, They're
gonna change stuff. But people that really were like, oh,
there's no term, there's no fighting. I don't know if
there's going to be a for sure tournament, but it
definitely looks like they're doing a lot more one on
one fights. It looks like they're saying the whole like, oh, well,
each realm's and danger and toda and there's a fire
chosen from it. Great, right. I think Carl Urban's doing
a great job as Johnny Cage. I think his cast
makes sense when that like he's playing the main character
and you kind of anchor that film. So it looks
like a good time. I will be there for it.
You can check out We've reviewed the first Control re
released on Patreon. We did a commentary track which was
tons of fun to the very first Moral Combat movie.
So I think it's looking good now. Granted I think
I still had on the list or it was at
least a contender. Movies that could bomb me eat shit. Yeah,
Moral Combat too could because I don't know what people
what their wavelength is for wanting another movie, right, But
I think the first trailer was like, okay, I had
a potential in the second trailer was just more of
this looked like it could be fun and a good time.
I think when you're adapting street Fire or Moral Combat
story or games that can't have a story, but it's
when you're not exactly adapting what's a bit too wild
even then, like you can just do the full tournament
as a movie, you know, fudge numbers, just go for
that fun aspect, right. I think there's we talk about
Resident Evil news with Zach Craiger. It's like that's something
that I think they've not either done the fun stuff
or they've not adapted the story, which the stories are
very cinematic, right, And I guess we talked about this
now quickly the report was let's see what was the
full quote here? Let me get it here. This is
from Deadline. Director Zach Greigor reportedly was getting Carte blanched
by Sony Pictures to do whatever he wanted with the
upcoming Resident Eel films. Now a Resident Evil film, and
that's where we're talking about World Combat. Moral comment to
me as a franchise where obviously there is a story,
but that can get very convoluted, very out there and
very grandiose. To me, it makes sense, let's do the
more fun version right now. Granted, Resident Evil can also
have check out Me and den siequests. Resident Evil six
can have a very convoluted, nonsensical what the fuck is
going on? Right? But I also think there's some stories
like A two and even a four where you could
concisely put those together. And it is a very cinematic
thing about those. Boss Fight's very cinematic franchise, right. And
now there's a point where I didn't care when this
happening because I like, Okay, I like Resident Evil and
Zach Craig are great. Let's see what you can do now,
like dip my toes back in the franchise and kind
of refalling in love with it. It is something where and
I know he's a fan of games, so and that's
the thing right where the Resident Evil games, there's many
that are, hey, we're following these characters you've known for
the whole time, let's see what their story is, right.
But then there's even nine like Ashley or Grace Ashcroft
looks like new character New Path might link up with Leon.
We'll see Resident Evil seven, the Winter's Family that's new right,
and even some like Leonunkley was new right. I hope
that what I want, And I think he had said
this that like he wants to have the essence of
when you play the game, and that's what I want, right,
But I do still want to feel like it's in
that world. I think Resident Evil can be funny and
have some comedic beats, especially you know Leon like Strup
one light or two, But I don't know if I
want to get fully comedic like the third act of
Weapons right, like that how it happens to a certain character.
I don't know if I want to go that way.
And even like justin Long with the measuring tape, it's
like in Barbarians can like can that work in res
I don't know and not feel it, So I hope
it's more just a he's very passionate Resident Evil. He
loves he wants to do a story in the world,
but doesn't want to adapt those characters, which I do understand, right,
Like I would personally love it. Like I think there's
like I said, Resident Evil too, we haven't watched Welcome
Raccoon City, so maybe it hits on those beats, but
you're gonna easily do an hour and a half. I'd
think other than mister X, like cheaper adaption of that
very easily and get new reactors, which I think with
Racoon City they tried to do. But I think it's
just supposedly not a good movie. I no wait till
the see. But there's multiple times when I was playing
these games where I go, Okay, there's some stuff that's
too big. But there's some things like why did they
with the Melo movies? Why was it just like illusions
and not just fully adapting some of this stuff right?
Because I think there is some actual the reason people
love these some general great character moments and stories. So
I do get where he's coming from. If that's a
lot of baggage and you don't necessarily want to do that.
But at the same time, I hope when I hear
Corp Lunche do whatever he does, I hope it's not
a situation where just last year until Dawn. I don't
want it to just be resident Evil in name. I
want umbrella logos. I want even as allusion to other
characters or things that have happened, Even if you hear
the words raculous City great, I don't want to be
a movie that you could just completely go. Okay, let's
see the Napoleon character is deaf on weapons? You a
level calmedy. Oh yeah, I guess so what says like
it's like Ramon sALS Are, right, I think he is
who you're talking about. Let's see, yeah, Ramone sALS Are Yeah, Yeah,
I guess you're right. I guess it's hmm. I'm trying
to think like here, here's the here's the thing. Like
I think in concept that character looks comedic, but then
they end up still being very frightening, right where justin
long thing that's just like a full and joke in
and that's fine. Like I'm not saying that hurts barbarian
or weapons and with weapons like that's the thing, Like
what happens in weapons to that character, I wouldn't want
them to happen to like a Ramone sALS Ar is
like the ending of that character that ends up being
a huge monster with multiple heads and stuff like that. Right,
So I do see your point, and there's some weird
stuff resident you can play with. I think it's just
he has to bounce that the right way, right. I
still lean to it being a darker franchise. But you're right,
they can get very wacky, and there's multiple things that
I need to rebrush on as far as some it's been. Also,
i'm playing just old games. I'm playing a while so,
but I think my more sensus. Even if you're bringing
that comedy, that's not my worry. I just don't want
to be in title only like that's my thing. I
don't want to be like I don't even like if
we do a movie, there's not even a mention or
a look of the umbrella logo. It's like, okay, this
was just to sell it, right. This was the I
think it was called Simon says Diehard and it worked
out for that, right, But that's not tory story. Diehard
three was not Diehard three. It was a different script
that would go, oh, this could be a Diehard movie.
I hope this isn't just Zach Gregor has an idea
we have the ip of Resident Evil, Well, this would
be a Resident Evil movie, right. As someone now that
you know, I've always loved the franchise, but as they
talked about many times, kind of fell out of love
with it. I hope that's some one is I hope
it's not just a way too. Ah, we can sell
some extra tickets by doing that, because if it does,
then I will thoroughly make sure I bring down some scores.
Now is that gonna matter? No, Like, they'll hopefully make
their money, and I hope it's great, and I hope
it's success because then my hope is that we could
get actual stories adapted, or similar things adapt or just
versions of that, especially with some of these characters as well.
But I'm you know, that's been the case for many years,
and I don't think that's happening, right, So we'll see.
And then finally the box office, So let's bring up
here the numbers. Let's bring out the box office is
more like a preview of last week because I didn't
to talk about it, and there's one in particular. I
want to talk about Worthern Heights at number one. Again,
that's great, that's for the Tuesday, right, So the same
thing as last Tuesday did very well. Where is weekend
box office? Here we go? So this time so a
Goat actually had a thirty eight percent drop, pretty good.
That was number one's sixteen million, and then Worthing Heights
had a fifty seven drop, which is pretty good. Fourteen million,
what is that sitting at now? Right? It's gonna because
I talked about that Journeyman review about I thought I
could make about two hundred. Yeah, so it's about one
fifty eight, so I think it's definitely gonna cross the
two hundred line. So that's great for that. What just
makes me excited is that Austin, it's eighty million. So
let's say if you just had to double it, sometimes
more of a double it one sixty worried out about
to get that profit zone. It doesn't make like if
this was like a big bomb or something. It doesn't
put Worthering Heights in or doesn't put Amalfil in some
like director's jail. Right, And at the same time too,
I think this is even more impressive again for adapting
this very old book. That's not the consciousness of a
lot of people. Emeral Finols movies have not been barnbusters, right,
because what was okay us, let me just search an
Emerald finale here, I think it is. I heard a
couple of interviews, was like, I think I've been saying
her name wrong for years, right, But like Saltburn made
like a what a Bucko fire or something at the
the uh the box office. Okay, let me open them
up here to see. But because like it's not like
she's other movies that I've done well, Salperm twenty one million,
you know, and then Promising Young Woman was eighteen million
for her massive win, right, like two hundred million, like
massive percentage up like all that could be soon to
be like one hundred percent up from or like way
past that right like times it So yeah, promisely one
one was also COVID. I agree with that, Mike, But
I also don't think, like that's not like a it's
not a movie that would I think blow up the
box office, right, It's still like a sexual assault thriller
in a sense. Right, So it's it's a movie that
I still don't think had it could have done better
when it's not during COVID. Sure, especially the oscars and everything,
but I don't think it would have done with willarn
Heights or some other directors done. Right. So she has
a name, she's getting out there. But at the same point,
Saltburn was the success because of streaming. It really was
came out around Christmas time, and that's why I remember
talking about Christmas or New Year's my sister seeing it, right,
I remember I saw Saltburn with U two I think
two other people, maybe three other people in my theater.
One got up and left, like at the beginning of
the third third act was done with it, didn't I
think once Barry was on that grave that was it
for him, right, or a little bit before that, I
can't remember. But that movie was not for a lot
of people, right, Worthing Heights I think is for a
lot more people. It's definitely her more mainstream, and that's
where I'm just happy it goes forward. Got makes sense
because until Hawpers there's not much kids stuff going on.
Crime one on one that's a bad one because that's
almost like one hundred million, so that's not doing well.
Send Helps still doing great. Made four point four million.
What's that at Now, let's take a look because I
had like, what forty million budget, so a three millions
would double it. So yeah, maybe get to about a
hundred million. That's good for that. How to make a killing? Obviously,
this is like another thing on going to the whole
all Glenn pal This is a tough thing, right because sure,
Glenn Palell dot Domestic box office only three point five million,
and this came out to really like nothing. It felt
like crickets, right, and then the reviews for it weren't great.
So yes, it goes away that whole conversation of is
he a new box off his draw like the next
Face or blah blah blah. No, as I talked about
when we talked, I think it was a few months
ago at the end of the year with quality him
and Sweeney. It just proved it once again. It was
not that I always thought that was the case, but
people kind of this idea of maybe these new stars
come out can do that. No, even shall may when
he's doing these like they are hits, but they're not
also like blockbusters, right, they are oh oppose to their budget.
They're doing very well and he can open them. But
it's not like even some of the one was it
like what was last year? Like a complete unknown? Right,
Like when we looked at the budget, it's a lot
more than it in my opinion, probably should have been. Right.
So it's like, what is the success right there? I
don't think Timmy is just like Tom Cruise of previous
rock right. I still think because what you had running
Man and then he had this, but you look at Sweeney,
so you should the same thing Americana and then Christy
and then The Houseman came out, big hit. It is
a perfect storm nowadays. I think people will buy a
ticket because they like Lynn Pale, but they also have
to I think miss him a little bit. He's been
a lot of stuff, but also like has to be
the right project, and I think Houseman was the right
project for her. And I think they'll find them from
Glenn Palell, but I'll see another kind of big hit
on him. As far as what people were thinking, they're right.
It's Utopia still it's only it's on Disney Plus yet,
but it's on VOD two point two million, still making
that great. I think it just what did pass today
will pass Minecraft for domestically, so for last year, so
that's great. And then I haven't seen it and we'll
get into this weekend. But Psycho Killer was gonna see it,
and I've said before even April, who did see it,
who loves horror movies, is a big defender of them,
has even admitted that hey like and we all have
those right gives sometimes the ratings a bit more positive.
Skew because she likes that genre, even her was her
review and in the discord, she's the one that thought
that I know iss, like, I don't know about this movie,
like for everybody, right, like there's things she liked about it.
But when I saw three point five, that was low.
And I always when you see a movie you're interested
in it, of course go see it. But when you're
some like myself that can limitedly see movies, right, But
I got all my kids and jobs and everything and
stuff going on, just trying to handle Emily. I have
to pick and choose. So when I see a forty
or thirty percent audience score and then zero percent run
of mails by the critics, that is one that yes,
I will happily wait till vod I'm still gonna watch it.
I was interested in. I was just very disappointed. I
could not believe. Not only was that embargo like the
day of seeing a zero. I haven't seen a zero
a long time, and is it still has anyone given
it a positive review yet? Let's see let me just
charch up here. But that's disappointing because I me and
Kirk when we're talking about seeing it. But I was
like Kim, where I remember I didn't watch, so it's
a ten percent. Okay, so it's one of a little
bit thirty seven percent for the run to for the audience,
three fresh scores there go. But yeah, only made one
point six million. I don't know, did that have a
what is the budget? That I looked like cheaper, there's
not like a bigger star. But to me, I didn't
see the ten million. Yeah, it's gonna be a loser.
That's gonna be unfortunately for them. I didn't see the
trailer at first. I saw, like I think I saw
one trailer, dream Move. I had no choice. It was
right there. But I had heard Kirkland describe it on
a Weekly Geek and that sold to me and we
were very exciting. I thought this could be a low
key hit of the year. Looks like it was not,
So there you go. And then so for this weekend
scream we'll talk about on the Monday. But screen right
now is projected to make anywhere from forty to fifty
five domestically. But then it's kind of been weird because
I saw it was like thirty domestically and then I saw, okay,
it was sixty global, So it's like Okay, that's good.
But then I saw lots of people be like, you
get to fifty five, get the sixty. So it's like
I again, tracking seems to be a bit all over
sometimes with some of these movies. Granted that's because you
have so many sources do in them now, and usually
the studio low balls it. So maybe the studios the
one saying sixty or a thirty. Either way, if it
were to open up to sixty global, let's just keep
it that global opening, that'd be the second best global
opening behind Scream five, which is a Scream but the
kind of kind of legacy sequel, right in an age
where legacy sequels were getting big. They were bringing people
back and they had a good young cast. So that
still shows this is a kick in. That still shows that.
As I talked about a couple weeks ago, I think
it was a Mike who has the question for this
when he had Scream on his bomb. Liss I thought,
there's no fucking way, because as much as I agree
with things that went down were really shitty, a lot
of people either don't care about it or they never
heard about it. Right with Melissa Brera and the whole
Gaza and Palasin thing heard tweeted about, which is so
crazy because it's just like so many other people that
have mentioned about them just have got shit canned or whatnot,
Like I don't know, it was a whole weird situation, right.
So but that's the thing where it's just like that's
a I think that's a film community bubble thing, and
they just want to see a Scream movie and they
are hitting the They're doing like another leg legacy sequel
in a sense, right, they're doing the well Sydney and
Courtney or Sydney and Gale are back full time. But
then there's also a daughter, right, and I think I
think we're all sucker for like, oh the daughter or
son storyline, right, because there's some potential there. And then
they've teased around oh yeah, oh the double and that crack.
Hell yeah, they've teased that other people are coming back,
not even teas. They're on the poster right, like Scott Fuley,
Matthew Lillard, So it's his idea what they're gonna do.
I'm surprised it's the second global. I thought it would
beat the last Scream, but I'm surprised it's that because
I felt like we got that one trailer, and then
the marketing from some really weird they've been like dropping
outs little teasers or even the last trailer, I think
it was just like a what was the one from
this week YouTube? Let me just find out it was
like ninety seconds or something like that. Let's see Scream
seven trailer one that came out. Yeah, the last trailer,
final trailer fifty eight seconds. And they've done something where now, granted,
of course we're all there. We've seen this happen with embargoes.
The letter box is locked until embargo's open. That's never happened.
I'm surprised it hasn't happened because we've seen that all
the time, where critics see it and they're not allowed
to drop a review, but they can't get letterbox. It's
not like an official website or review place, right, and
there's a score before it's locked. You could say it
is for spoilers. And I think there is some of
that because I think off to the Killer is always
out there, and that room's setting half the fun, right
if someone knows that going in, And I think the
idea of I think we in the film community have
an idea of how this is going with the people
coming back, but other people don't write, and there's that
excitement to them, and some people probably don't even know, right.
So I was surprised by just the kind of i'd
say lack of marketing, but the global opening having that.
But people want to see Scream, they want to see
these characters. You know, the returning installs will always help.
So Mike asked, uh, let's se Screams in preview? What
are your hopes for the movie, the biggest fears and
where would you like to see franchise go for, if
at all. I've always wanted to Scream, just like on
an easy, superficial level, mic, I always want to scream
during Christmas. I love horror movies during Christmas. You might
see that from us in a couple of years, in
one facet or another, so I'd love that. I think
there was I think there was some pitch. I don't
know if it was these characters or another. I thought
there was some rumored script of them going to like
a cabin on a winter break and the killer gets
them there, right, and that's great because there's no police
do nothing. But I can't remember where the pitch was, right,
and even to the pitches I heard of Kem Williamson's like,
oh what his trilogy would have been? Don't love? Right?
So it's tough, Like what are my hopes for the movie?
I was talking about this in the discord, right, I'll
give a truncated version. I don't have much hopes because
I'm not that excited for this movie. I love this franchise, Scream,
the original one, to me is a top ten horror movie.
Easily with a bullet, I'd say more than I think
it's like a tie. But if I had to pick
Sydney's up there there's a reason I like to name,
you know, I'm like the name, but like the reason
she's as the name and it's spelt that way. Sidney
Prescott's easily my favor final girl, and I think she's
will not has the best evolutions of a character in
the horror franchise. So my fear is there's two things.
Is and is it a little unbelievable at this point
that man a killers come after her. Now this would
be the fifth time, because technically I won't count Scream
five because they were after New Crop apial, right, and
she just came in a help, and then Austine screamed
six they didn't target her, So we're past the point,
like it is it has shot jumped the shark in
multiple ways, trunkcated version. I gotta try to answer this somehow,
and I got about seven minutes, lum, they jumped the
shark because even fucking Nev candle back in the day
after three, So like, yeah, if we're doing anymore, we've
kind of like we're scrapping the barrel. We should him
there and I'd be like trilly to talk about the
right and obviusly West came back, but it's probably just
money motiviude, Right, even the story is coming out that like,
oh I didn't want to come back for X, Y
and Z. I get that Nev Campbell is important that franchise,
but definitely sound like more money thing. And that's fine,
get your bag. You are the leader of that franchise, right,
But just sound like she got paid seven million then
was very happy, and she said she had to stand
by her character. I agree that you shouldn't have back
seeded them as much, but you gotta find a way
to make that work for everybody, right, So I digress.
I think That's what in my mere sentence of this
is the fifth time the ghost Face Killer a Ghost's
Killers coming after Sidney Prescott. That's already I think it
was more believable when it was Okay, Sidney does hand
it off and then they are after a new crop
of people. And I kind of like that where the
original ghost Face are like, you know what that whole
thing she says in screen for like, don't fuck with
the original It's like, you know what, we can't kill her,
we can't get her. Sidney Prescott always fucking survives. We
can't find a way, Like it's over right there. I
just think now we're at that point where it's like, okay,
another scream with Sidney, what can you do? O ka
the daughter thing right, and my fear is them killing
her off? If they kill her off, that's a full
thing where I can review films and do the whole
like I'll take a side of the what I want
you to do in my final score, But as an
enjoyer of the film, I think, what do you I
was kind of fine with if Sydney, to me, who
is like the ultimate final girl, doesn't there's some characters
that should get a happy ending, right, I talked about this.
I was a big thing for Stranger Things. I was
completely fine with those characters getting happy ending because they
were fucking kids when all that time time and they
haven't had a life right now. Granted you can say, oh,
well she has a husband and a kid, but it's
like for her to be tormented since she was in
high school. Do we really want her to get fucking
skewered by the eighteenth ghost Face Killer? No? I don't personally,
So my biggest fear is that, or even bigger than that,
is some shit of making her the killer. There's so
many people that have pitched that before, like oh she's
gone psychoed? No that when so I think there's actively
things that could hurt the franchise and that will for
me that I will fully admit that on a critical level,
I wouldn't fail for it. But that's why my reviews
are a mixture of critique and what I like about
a movie or what I find is like a favor, right,
the best in favor. If they were to make Sidney
the killer, that's a fail for me. If they kill her,
it's close to fail, but you need to see how
it's done. But for me, it's probably it takes a
score down quite a bit unless the rest of move
is really great. Right, and where you like the franchise
going forward, I feel that it's just like it's too late.
I would have loved a movie where, even if it's
a little bit different, what Kevin Willison describe, what they're
gonna do with Emerald's character. Okay, that's something I would
love that if it's Screammate, which they said they plan
to do, so I'm sure that's just Sydney and Gale
and the whole crew again, right. I would love to
do a movie where you do a let's just say,
Scream Subta, right, Scream just New Generation. I would never
call it that. That's awful, but let's just say it's
that New gen right or gen Z, Scream gen X,
you do that, right. I would love a movie where
it's from the point of view I don't like saying
this shit because you never know, right, But I love
where it's a point of view from the ghost Face
killer where you know after the first kill who the
fucking killer is and it's like you're seeing them pull
it off like a heist. I should take this out
of the cast because I won't lie. Very similar to
this a script a transcript that I have. God, I'll
stop talking. But I love that idea of seeing that,
like how could we pull it off? Right? I would
love them when we were ends where we don't find
out who ghost faces even if the person survives, or
there's two ghost faces and we don't find out who
the other one is. I would love it where because
now it's like, oh, we can't go after Sydney because
she wins, we can't go after terror I think her
name was, or whoever Molisa Bara was, because she wins,
we can't kill her. I would love him. We were
ghost face kills the main protagonists and they're on the
next one, even if you don't know who they are.
I think that'd be super scary. Right, you kill the lead,
you keep a let's say it's a group of six
seven maybe right, I didn't mean to do that, But
let's say it's seven people. You kill a protagonist, three others,
and you leave three characters behind. And wouldn't that be
great if you fell in love with these three characters.
They're survivors, but one of them might be the killer
and leading from you know, Scream gen X, The Scream
gen X Part two, one of these characters that you
grew to love, they're gonna be the killer. You could
call up them and get a call or someone else. Sure,
but like do that where it's like, yeah, you don't know,
some people might be unsatisfied me. Oh, that's not the
way it goes. But that's what was great about the
first Scream movie was it was not traditional horror movie, right,
And I think that's what I've heard about this is
that that's another fear, is like, oh, just kind of
a straight scream movie. A lot about the lord. It's like,
that's not the reason why I think people that's part
of it, but that's not the full reason why people
love fell in Love a scream, right, was the commentary
the franchise. The last few movies did that a lot,
so I could see them want to try to get
away from that. But just something fresh, Mike, That's what
I'd say, So I would love it. That's a franchise.
I could pitch my ass off, like I have multiple
things I would love to do with then and then
you asked, also, if it's not too much of mind, feel,
where do you stand on the countryversial road to it
being made. That goes in also the lack of excitement. Right,
I can't fully I can't stand here because Mike' say like,
you're gonna find a way to watch it where the
company doesn't get money. And that's great, Right, We've all
done that before. We all have that, those situations where
there's brands and companies that we watch and they're doing
shitty stuff. Right, So I have a line to a
certain degree the firing's not I've said this before. A
line for me is I will not watch Rush Hour
four because it is directed by a fucking monster. Right.
And granted I'm in the same situation with WWN Wrestling, right,
there's a lot of wrestlers I enjoy watching there. I
like their products actually pretty shit right now, but like
there are times I can like the product, right, But
then you have someone like broco Letter come back who
was not being sued but in like he's in reports
of a sexual harassment, sexual assaults like weird, like a
bunch of power bad lawsuit stuff with the Vincment Mann stuff. Right,
So it's tough for one wrestler that is in this promotion,
which is some people can't do, and that's fine, and
then you're better that I can say you're better than me, right,
But it's like, if there's some of my favorite wrestlers
right now, for this guy who pops up every few months,
do I not watch every single Gody Rhodes, Rea Ripley
matched because there's one fucking asshole that they employ that
may or may not have done these things right. It's tough.
So that's where my line is, Okay, I will still
watch this stuff, but now watch less of it, or
I don't watch that, and same thing too. Before I
didn't watch the Saudi they do show. They do shows
in Saudi Arabia now right, or they've done that for
the past few years. I did not watch those earlier
shows because if everything that happened Saudi Arabia, but now
that with a gimmick and we started that. From a
content point of view, they do some of their biggest
shows at Saudi right, like next to you WrestleMania, which
is their super Bowl. That's a Saudi So if I'm
gonna produce that or if I want to see a
big thing, I can fully say, yeah, I watched the
show that's on Saudi. I fucking hate it, you know,
I wish it was other ways. I wish the company
was better, but they get paid a bunch of money.
So that's where travisers to say, hey, you don't have
your values. I understand if someone if someone, which I'm
sure we will because we always get that and people
know my fucking views on this. We did a fucking
full stream for passine. People that might and Mike you
might not even know, but people that are newer a
couple of years ago, it's still on you. It's still there.
We did a stream after a lot of the attacks happened.
I saw her and I was not even fully educated
all the stuff happening there, like her a little bit,
but not fully educated. I had seen stuff there and
it was just horrified, right of the stuff going on.
And we just and I this way, like I love
the guys so much at Geek first with extra Life
obviously that's an easy thing, right, Sick kids, families that
need help. Everybody can support that, right, And we did
this as also as well too with some of the
riots of the stuff. I'm for Black lives matter, but
I love the guys where all the stuff I'm not saying,
no one on the podcast. We talked about town on
the podcast, like it's hardcore right wing MAGA like, or
even hardcore left wing right like I consider myself left leaning,
but there's tons of right policies that I agree with.
There's sons I absolutely do not, but I love that
with that, which is a very touchy controversial issue because
I think we removed them. But even during that stream,
when we did that stream, there were people on the
other side saying bad shit about this. How can you
do this because it's like, oh see, it's a very
code ish, right. The stream was not about that. The
stream was money towards kids that need it, money towards
kids that get their fucking legs blown off because like
they're in a war that like it doesn't even matter
to them, right, Like it's not like they're they have
nothing to do with that situation, and that's what that's about. Right.
So for me, my views are very there as far
as the support there, and I don't think she should
have been fired at all, but the company still has there.
They completely can do whatever they want and it's in
their right to do that, right. So for me, that's
another reason why I'm not excited, because yeah, I am
one of those fucking people that she got fired. And
then I'm gonna watch because like I do enjoy the franchise,
I want to go see it, and to be honest,
I said this in the discord, I think because of that,
because of the people coming back, and because of the surprises,
I think it will do well for the channel and
get new subscribers and even make stuff. Because the money
we make, I guess down town Hall, I don't puk
in much of it. I really don't. It'll pay for
if I take a day off from work just for
a break, I don't get paid for that, So it
pays for that or most of my stuff. Like we
talked about this on the Bread and Butter with me
and Dylan coming up. Every film festival you go to,
it costs money and lots of main cheap you know.
So it's just like if people think, like and again,
it's also to pay for our time on the podcast
another content, like that's what it is. It is to
keep it going. So that's where it's like it would
be kind of malpractice for us, especially the last couple
of years, Like I think it was that way in
twenty four, but last year I said, this went to
their top ten episodes like Weapons, Sinners, there's another one
I'm missing, and then the Alien Earth stuff. Those were
tons in our top fifteen and twenty, like next to
superhero stuff like I Can, I can, I won't pull
up because I'm round of time. But they did very
well for us, and that is subscribers, that's downloads, that's
monetization that's left on the window, right. So for me,
that one is not as bad as a Brett Ratner
because I go this company view that it's to me
a shit thing, but they view this is gonna hurt
their business. We don't want people time about these views.
We're gonna part ways and we're gonna go this direction.
So it's not a completely one. I'm done with it,
but it also does not make me excited, right, and
it also makes it easier of this movie shit that
I can really rain down or right. There's tons of times,
especially when it's like independent stuff other thing, there's times
where I might feel something's awful, but if I know
something put there and everyone's putt hard work. But if
the situation calls for no one to really be like
taking a task, like a great example is like a
kid actor. Right. If a kid actor, shit, I'm just saying,
you know, they're all right, I'm not gonna go out
for that person, right, And a kid actor, I'm never
gonna do that. Right. But if it's another actor like
a Jared Leto and he gives a ship performance, I
got no fucking problem making sure I talk about being
a ship performance, right, because in my opinion, and especially
the things that are come on again lately, I don't
think he's a good guy. And that's a complete me
based off other people's stories and whatnot. But I have
no problem saying that the same thing as we tell
out the town hall. I have no problem saying any
fucking thing about Donald Trump. I'm not talking about the
right I'm I'm not talking there's people on the right shirt,
but I'm not talking about the Republican Party of their reviews.
I'm talking about this fucking guy, this guy who you
know there's certain files being hitten because he may or
may not like did bad stuff with a minor, Right,
that's the fucking guy I have no problem saying bad
shit about. So that's where this movie sucks. I got
no problem tearing a new one because of the stuff
they did, So that's where I am, Mike, So it
definitely take down my excitement and I applaud you for
doing that. And I think if I was not doing this,
I would be in your camp. And the good thing
is for me, if this doesn't pull numbers, I don't
think I need to come back for eight with the
podcast with that right, So that's where it was. Where
as a personal line, yes, it was something drawn, but
at the same time as something that still needs to
support the channel and do this and I think it
could do well numbers for us, cause then the last
review did good numbers for us. I still I gotta
do it right. There is some lines, like I said,
I will not personally be on a rush hour for
fucking I don't think there's gonna be a review, but
you know what I mean, Like, there's there's certain things
where it's like technically even and if someone whoever has
the scream thing, even if they're like, you know what,
I do agree with or I see her point of view,
but I think this is gonna hurt the movie. We
gotta cut her. That's where I at least go okay,
I can't I can't get on board with anybody being like, well,
you know, Brett Ratner, this situation can be a little uh,
you know, fifty to fifty he shous no, no, no, like
that's a done deal type of shit of like there's
no opinion here. We shouldn't be working with a fucking rapist,
you know. So that's where I am. So I'm not
really excited for it. I think me and Tay will
have like a fun time watching and review. I think
it'll be I think horror movies, especially if they end
up being bad, can be a very fun review. So
I think it'll be a good time watching with him
and reviewing. It will be actual movie. Who knows. I
said in the discord, I expected to be the second
worst scream, So if it's better than that, if it's
better than four, I'll be surprised. That's where I am
because Kim Williamson is like second time he's directed something, right, so,
and I haven't loved all of his writing, right, So
we'll see. But yeah, that'll be happening on the feeds
in the next forty eight hours. So I hope you
enjoyed this episode. I plan to be back Monday. If
I am live, it'll be eleven am. Look for social media,
that's what I say. Or Patreon you can join the
free feed. If it's a tape one, I'll let you know.
Because I said my day jobs, some things have changed,
which is a certain time. It will eventually level out,
but it's just we're going through all the changes. Tax
season is also very busy for us, so that's where
it happens. So but there will be Even if I
just record an episode, put on Patreon, the feeds, it'll
be there. Thank you very much. Everyone tune in check
out our other stuff we got going on. I promise
when you here fro Us next it'll not be boring.