Speaker 1: It's like the Seinfeld noise.
Speaker 2: You're just mumbly.
Speaker 3: Like the bass.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's both. It's the pops and the uh yeah.
Speaker 2: So you do the deeper thing and I'll do the
Speaker 2: little pop.
Speaker 1: That's what I wanted. That one's good. Well, okay, you
Speaker 1: do that. You do the guitar and I'll do the bass.
Speaker 3: To be my latex salesman. It's a claccic episode. I'm
Speaker 3: so tired. Welcome back every episode ninety two of the
Speaker 3: fire Escape Cast. I'm Mike Mahardy here with Dan Reichert,
Speaker 3: Hi Hello and Mary Kish Hello. Straight out of New
Speaker 3: York and Portland in Minneapolis as always in New York.
Speaker 4: I saw you in New York, well, New Jersey. I
Speaker 4: guess two days ahead dinner with you and Amanda, and
Speaker 4: it was delightful years ago.
Speaker 3: I'm actually finishing the pineapple juice I opened.
Speaker 2: Oh oh that you made some good cocktails.
Speaker 4: I just somedette nut.
Speaker 3: What you call adett D's nuts.
Speaker 2: You made great cocktails. That was a nice nightcap there.
Speaker 3: Oh those are good. It was the last word riff.
Speaker 3: I call it a pine apparol dackerie.
Speaker 2: It was very delicious, pretty good.
Speaker 3: It's just Uh, what was it?
Speaker 2: It was just.
Speaker 3: White rum apparol, pineapple juice and simple and.
Speaker 1: Put apparol in anything and it usually tastes better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where were you Mary? We were all having fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for fucking coming over.
Speaker 1: Geez, I was off the grid. I was camping.
Speaker 2: Thought we were buds.
Speaker 4: What the hell I was Mike and Amanda just been drinking,
Speaker 4: having a good time, wondering all the stars.
Speaker 3: Where'd you were camping? For real?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I haven't been camping in years, definitely over five
Speaker 1: years since the last time I like slept in a
Speaker 1: tent without having internet access. But it was great. I
Speaker 1: I we went to mill of Nowhere. I had a
Speaker 1: little tent. I invested in a good mattress, which I
Speaker 1: think was the clutch move. It's like foam and inflatable,
Speaker 1: so it has foam in there, and then you add
Speaker 1: air so that it's poofy enough, but it's not it's
Speaker 1: not all foam, so that it tight packs really tight
Speaker 1: into like a tiny little container. Is great.
Speaker 2: I did so I used the roll up.
Speaker 4: I actually just bought more and mattresses for my house
Speaker 4: because a bunch of people going over for extra life
Speaker 4: and new jokers and stuff, but you have to plug
Speaker 4: into like a normal outlet, Like are the camping ones?
Speaker 2: Do you not need a full deal, real deal outlet.
Speaker 1: This one is battery operated and you charge it so
Speaker 1: that when you get there, you just put the inflator
Speaker 1: on it and it inflates on its own, so you
Speaker 1: don't need to as long as it's charged, you don't
Speaker 1: have to do anything, which is super Those.
Speaker 4: Are comfy, like inflatable, Like you think that they'd be shitty,
Speaker 4: but like, honestly they're totally fine.
Speaker 3: We have live we gotta get a new one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to send you. I'm going to send
Speaker 1: you what I got because it is my opinion that
Speaker 1: what I have is better than an inflatable mattress because
Speaker 1: a lot of times inflatable mattresses have this mistake where
Speaker 1: they're like, look how tall it is, right, Like it's
Speaker 1: like six mattresses packed on top and it's all air,
Speaker 1: so it's going to be super comfortable. But the reality
Speaker 1: is is you don't need three feet of height of
Speaker 1: air and that's not comfier.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: The mattress I have is like what six inches tall?
Speaker 1: Saw very It's not very thick, but it's a combination
Speaker 1: of to shut up, Mike, it's like a combination of
Speaker 1: mattress material and air that makes it so comfortable. And
Speaker 1: I realized when guests come over, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: give them the air mattress that I have for the
Speaker 1: house anymore. I'm going to give them.
Speaker 2: The tents and bear fur and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is not. First of all, it is brand new.
Speaker 1: It's like only been used for this one trip, and
Speaker 1: it was in a tent where there's.
Speaker 4: Outside still the elements you gotta have inside and outside mattresses.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? You put like a sheet
Speaker 1: on it. It's inside of a tent.
Speaker 2: They're crafty, they're not getting in there. Yeah. Not why
Speaker 2: you're there.
Speaker 3: Your air mattress or no you sorry your tent?
Speaker 2: Sorry?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: In my house in the closet, most people.
Speaker 3: You know, there's not birds and bears and briars and
Speaker 3: brambles and what's a briar? I don't know. Sometimes I got.
Speaker 1: A couple of woodsmen over here a little bit worried
Speaker 1: about briar ship in my tent. But I'm telling you, like,
Speaker 1: there's no debris.
Speaker 3: I got tulip ship on my pants. There's bear pollen
Speaker 3: in my nose. I'm allergic. Oh, the vaultures are coming
Speaker 3: in with their chlorophyll. What. Speaking of air mattresses, we
Speaker 3: got news.
Speaker 2: What where are you going with this?
Speaker 3: J and Marry and me will be saying on air
Speaker 3: mattresses at Dan's place.
Speaker 2: No, you guys will get the normal mattresses.
Speaker 4: I constructed the triple bunk beds, but all the mattresses
Speaker 4: are still there, so you're going to get the normal ones.
Speaker 4: And then the overflow is the other air mattresses.
Speaker 1: Well connected to each other.
Speaker 2: You can do whatever you.
Speaker 4: Can, tetriss the hell out of them however you want.
Speaker 4: I've got all the mattresses.
Speaker 3: You've officially have a date for our Game of the
Speaker 3: Year stream for twenty twenty four to decide the best
Speaker 3: games and give the best opinions were everybody.
Speaker 2: This year, we're scooping every outland with our Game of
Speaker 2: the Year.
Speaker 3: We're going we're literally going more than a month earlier
Speaker 3: than last year. We will be doing our Game of
Speaker 3: the Year live stream on November fifteenth, sixteenth sixteenth, sorry,
Speaker 3: sixteenth Saturday. The sixteenth Saturday, November sixteenth, fifteenth, we got
Speaker 3: to watch the Mike Dyson fight the sixteenth is Mike
Speaker 3: Dyson more important stuff. November sixteenth, Saturday. More info forthcoming
Speaker 3: about this specific time, but it will be live streamed
Speaker 3: on Twitch and.
Speaker 4: Safe to assume we'll start in the evening like in
Speaker 4: the past. I would say somewhere between five and seven
Speaker 4: Central sounds about right, and then we'll probably go late
Speaker 4: into the night. But stay tuned to fire Escape socials
Speaker 4: and our socials and stuff, and we will keep you abreast.
Speaker 3: We're gonna beat Game Spot, We're gonna beat IGN, We're
Speaker 3: gonna beat Giant Bomb, We're gonna be We're gonna be Polygon.
Speaker 3: We're gonna be the first. We're gonna opinion.
Speaker 1: Take that kind of funny.
Speaker 3: Everybody and kind of funny. We're gonna beat the besties.
Speaker 2: Everybody's to follow us.
Speaker 3: We're gonna beat Ben Max.
Speaker 1: We always wanted to beat Ben Hanson.
Speaker 3: Everybody's gonna have to follow us. The personal goal a
Speaker 3: perfect list.
Speaker 4: On November sixteenth, Mary, I saw you taking Ben Hanson
Speaker 4: that chicken place.
Speaker 2: I gotta go there next time I'm in Portland.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's that video that he released. It of
Speaker 1: the behind the scenes is so good and it's a
Speaker 1: very nice reflection of the experience that we had very fun,
Speaker 1: good time.
Speaker 2: So yes, looked great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we should do. We've we try and mix it
Speaker 1: up every once in a while. But we like Dan's
Speaker 1: house for Gody for a few reasons. One, it's central,
Speaker 1: it's moderately equal from both me and Mike.
Speaker 3: To go to cool Judge Jake's going to be there, of.
Speaker 1: Course, And of course Judge Jake is going to be there.
Speaker 3: Say his name, So I was just ye credit because.
Speaker 1: First of all, Jake isn't going to be there. It's
Speaker 1: cool Judge Shake is going to be there.
Speaker 3: Jake Deckert has refused to come to every single game
Speaker 3: of the year.
Speaker 4: We've Minnesota sounds too cold, helfish.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this little high boy comes out of the mountains
Speaker 3: into the desert and says, no, what will come go
Speaker 3: to fuck Jake dot org and you'll get you'll know
Speaker 3: all about it. You care for Jake shouldn't direct people
Speaker 3: that site anymore. But yeah, other reasons we go to
Speaker 3: Dan's continue to.
Speaker 1: Dan usually has a large level of equipment that is
Speaker 1: conducive to us doing a long stream that he's already
Speaker 1: set up and is eager to to to put up
Speaker 1: all the energy into setting up a big live stream
Speaker 1: in his living room where.
Speaker 2: Is the kitchen.
Speaker 3: He usually has a large house, at which point I
Speaker 3: was gonna be like, is this like a house of
Speaker 3: leaves and it's shrinking or does switch house and.
Speaker 1: Every year, Yeah, it gets a little smaller.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's random always that you can't see from the outside.
Speaker 1: It was a strange deal with the witch he made
Speaker 1: in the woods that day, but his.
Speaker 4: House was lower the interesting to help the interest rate.
Speaker 4: I'd be a fool to say no to it.
Speaker 5: That way, you'll lose one foot of width, fine six
Speaker 5: inches of length and a little headroom.
Speaker 3: Oh. I do have one other housekeeping thing. I'll bring
Speaker 3: it up at the end of the episode though, But
Speaker 3: as of November first, we are switching to subscription billing
Speaker 3: for our Patreon. If you're already a Patreon subscriber, whether
Speaker 3: it's for the ad free episodes or the videos, disregard this.
Speaker 3: You will get charged on the first of every month,
Speaker 3: as you always have been. But if you're not a patron,
Speaker 3: or if you've lapsed and are considering coming back for
Speaker 3: end of the year stuff. I think that's a nice
Speaker 3: quality of life feature most of all patreons going toward this,
Speaker 3: but also we're happy that it'll work for Firescape patrons
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 4: Speaking of our patrons, I don't give a shout out
Speaker 4: to doctor Fernando.
Speaker 3: He was the coolest name ever. I have to say.
Speaker 2: I like saying doctor Fernando a lot.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you didn't see the tweet, I was at
Speaker 4: a bar with with Alex Boniello in New Jersey a
Speaker 4: few days ago, and uh, we were hopping to a
Speaker 4: second bar because the first one was closing. And as
Speaker 4: we walk in, we see a guy sitting there at
Speaker 4: the bar with a drink and he turns and he
Speaker 4: does a double take and he's like Dan Reichert for
Speaker 4: the record, did not at all recognize Alex Boniell. And uh,
Speaker 4: it's like, let's sit down. He's a he's a Broadway guy.
Speaker 4: He's a Disney he's like a Disney actor guy. But
Speaker 4: he's like, oh yeah, sit down, And I got the
Speaker 4: drinks for the rest of the night, and you know,
Speaker 4: paid for me and Alex's drinks. Had some great chats
Speaker 4: about movies and video games and all sorts of stuff
Speaker 4: and uh and being a doctor.
Speaker 3: And uh, specify how he knew you, because right now
Speaker 3: the story is just about how he knew who you were.
Speaker 4: Oh no, specifically, he was like, I'm bringing up on
Speaker 4: this because he was like, oh Fire Escape, Big Virus
Speaker 4: Cap fan. Yes, yes, I would.
Speaker 3: I would have loved to just continue. And it was
Speaker 3: a story about how somebody recognized you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we went to high school together, yeah Fernando. Yeah no,
Speaker 4: uh no, Big Fire Escape band, Doctor Fernando and uh yeah,
Speaker 4: great dude, and wish him the best and thanks for
Speaker 4: being a fan.
Speaker 1: Yay, that's wonderful. Sounds like a good evening and what
Speaker 1: a nice surprise. That's lovely.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: He was like, uh, He's like, oh, I don't wanna
Speaker 4: you know, don't want to be weird or don't want
Speaker 4: to be pushy or anything. I was like, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: trust me, you can you can tell every once in
Speaker 4: a while there's like fans and stuff that are just
Speaker 4: a little weird and don't understand boundaries and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Colleagues that are weirder than that. Who will come up
Speaker 3: to you outside of shows like you don't remember who
Speaker 3: I am?
Speaker 2: Do you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: But I told doctor Fernando immediately like no, trust me,
Speaker 4: I can hurt him. Tell you know, you're a He's
Speaker 4: a forty year old doctor with a family, a real deal,
Speaker 4: serious job, and he was very very kind and everything
Speaker 4: was like, trust me, you're you're not You're not doing
Speaker 4: anything wrong here.
Speaker 2: You're being very very pleasant.
Speaker 4: So cool, dude, Doctor Fernando, the official doctor of the
Speaker 4: fire Escape cast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get him on an episode.
Speaker 4: Doctor Fernando. I told him the email ends. Have you
Speaker 4: ever seen Fernando email? Let's let's put them on the
Speaker 4: top of the list.
Speaker 2: I checked.
Speaker 3: I've not seen anything yet. However, I would like at
Speaker 3: some point for him to email actual medical stuff, not
Speaker 3: like patient records. That'd be cool, but debunking information we
Speaker 3: have propped up as fact in the past, which we
Speaker 3: never do, so he'd have to dig really deep into episodes.
Speaker 2: I think you said we were all pretty right about everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I believe that's what most people who listen
Speaker 1: to this podcast saying, you're pretty much right about most
Speaker 1: of the.
Speaker 2: Things people Medical Advice podcast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if I ate cardboard, would that burn calories? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we did figure that out.
Speaker 3: We were right about that. Actually, yeah, yeah, Once in
Speaker 3: a Blue were smart? Broken clock? What else is new
Speaker 3: Wait Mary, Overall, how was camping? I actually have been
Speaker 3: talking to a couple of friends about I miss camping.
Speaker 3: I grew up like in the woods, basically in Central
Speaker 3: New York. I miss it. I want to do it again. However,
Speaker 3: time is tough, and then once you get to a
Speaker 3: certain part of the year, there's a shit ton of
Speaker 3: mosquitoes or there's snow, and I feel like I'm missing
Speaker 3: the window this year, unfortunately, but I do want to
Speaker 3: do it more.
Speaker 1: I was pleasantly surprised with how camping went, considering I
Speaker 1: don't consider myself a camper at all, but I put
Speaker 1: a lot of energy into the cooking situation. So I
Speaker 1: got one of those burners that uses a butane canister
Speaker 1: and just has a little flame. And then I got
Speaker 1: a big pot and on night one, I made hot
Speaker 1: pot with thinly sliced beef and yeah, baby bok choy
Speaker 1: and cat.
Speaker 4: When you send your eyebrows off using propane because it's dangerous.
Speaker 1: It's now tane and it's very different and it's pretty safe.
Speaker 2: It's lucky. You're lucky you're not missing a limb or something.
Speaker 2: Right now.
Speaker 1: I'm not taking kitchen advice from someone who can't cook eggs.
Speaker 4: It's not advice. It's just a warning to be careful
Speaker 4: around explosion.
Speaker 1: Again, it's not I mean, gas is explosive, and thank
Speaker 1: you for the warning. It's very safe. You just can't
Speaker 1: be a ding dong around it.
Speaker 2: I'm like the Smoky the Bear for explosive gases.
Speaker 3: I think I've told the story. Actually when for a
Speaker 3: year Jake me Justin Haywoald Eric Taylor, who I don't
Speaker 3: think people would know listening to the podcast because he
Speaker 3: wasn't like on the editorial side, But we all lived
Speaker 3: in that house out by the beach in San Francisco.
Speaker 3: I've probably told this way back in the show, but
Speaker 3: every time I hear about we had a guess era.
Speaker 3: We had a guess thing in this building like eight
Speaker 3: months ago. To me and another neighbor were like, does
Speaker 3: the stairwell kind of smell like gas? And it turned
Speaker 3: out a plumber like left a valve open after fixing
Speaker 3: our neighbor's boiler, so we had to, you know, like
Speaker 3: open all the windows evacuate the building for a bit.
Speaker 3: It reminded me of the time I woke up from
Speaker 3: a nap after work in the sunset and had a
Speaker 3: searing headache at like seven pm. And you know, I absolutely
Speaker 3: love Eric Taller. He's he's an absolutely great dude. He
Speaker 3: is kind of a DIY dude. And he wanted to
Speaker 3: install our new We all pitched in to get new
Speaker 3: washer dryers for the laundry room, and again he took
Speaker 3: it upon himself to install it, and I think he
Speaker 3: had done something out of order. So basically the house
Speaker 3: flooded with gas. So I woke up with a headache,
Speaker 3: pounding headache from having held it. So then we had
Speaker 3: to we aired it out after a while. But every
Speaker 3: time I smell gas, I get like a like a
Speaker 3: phantom paint now like a return headache.
Speaker 2: So two questions, if you had not left the house,
Speaker 2: would you have died?
Speaker 3: I can't imagine it would have been good. Like if
Speaker 3: any of us had been like lighting up a joint.
Speaker 4: See that that was a question too, was like if
Speaker 4: one of he was lighting a candle or a joint
Speaker 4: or something, would you have exploded?
Speaker 3: If I had a headache from it, And granted I
Speaker 3: was on the same floor as launder room, so I
Speaker 3: probably got it worse than anybody. That also explains a
Speaker 3: lot about my me if Yeah, if I had been
Speaker 3: doing anything, I think I could have undamaged to myself
Speaker 3: in the house.
Speaker 2: Oh that's scary. Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 3: I'm not mistake and not a mistake that. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: that's why you.
Speaker 1: Have to You currently are messing with gas because you
Speaker 1: have you have you have heat in your house.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but I don't do anything with it.
Speaker 3: Are you talking to me?
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying Dan is saying he doesn't mess with
Speaker 1: gas because it can kill you. But you are messing
Speaker 1: with gas because it's in your house.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, like, I'm not doing things that have like Ei,
Speaker 4: there's a gas line that goes to my deck that
Speaker 4: I will never touch. In fact, I'm trying to. I
Speaker 4: want to get it ripped out. Yeah, because I don't
Speaker 4: trust myself with it. And also there's I think our
Speaker 4: stove is is it gas? If there's like actual flames
Speaker 4: coming out of it, yes, yes, then that's why it's
Speaker 4: like every once in a while I have to heat
Speaker 4: up water to like heat up these burn ins or whatever,
Speaker 4: and it's every single time I'm like, this might be
Speaker 4: it for me.
Speaker 3: I get the trepidation. Like one of our burners on
Speaker 3: the stove. You have to spark a few times, and
Speaker 3: then by that point a decent amount of gas has
Speaker 3: been released. You have to release and don't take and
Speaker 3: don't take my word for it. I don't want people
Speaker 3: blowing up. But like I've done, I've sparked it like
Speaker 3: six times and it's a pretty big but it never
Speaker 3: singes my hand.
Speaker 4: I just it's there is that part and fight Club
Speaker 4: and its whole apartment blew up.
Speaker 3: What happened in fight Club? Remind me?
Speaker 2: They showed that they did the David Ventures.
Speaker 4: Show behind the oven and then there was one little
Speaker 4: spark and the whole places blew up. I've been scaring
Speaker 4: ever since.
Speaker 3: I think that's because the ghaslak had been going on
Speaker 3: for several days. Is my point. The burner like gas,
Speaker 3: dissipates fairly quickly, and then the flame itself kills like
Speaker 3: burns the gas immediately.
Speaker 4: But what if some of it escapes and then it's
Speaker 4: all over the place, and then you try to light
Speaker 4: a candle and then everyone's just you know, yeah.
Speaker 3: I from my understanding, if there's enough of it, it
Speaker 3: could be bad. But like your gas, you have a car.
Speaker 3: Gas in the car, I can door dash. It's fine.
Speaker 3: The car handles all the stuff.
Speaker 4: I I don't want to do anything where I'm in
Speaker 4: control of the explosive gas.
Speaker 2: I trust the car to do it right.
Speaker 1: You fly, Have you ever seen any shoots the plane
Speaker 1: and the plane explodes because there's gas in the plane.
Speaker 1: That could happen.
Speaker 4: That's unrealistic. That's ridiculous. Everything die hard two situation. Yes,
Speaker 4: is that why you don't like cooking?
Speaker 3: Dan? Because the stove.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of reasons I don't like cooking. I
Speaker 4: could do the chicken wrong and then you die of salmonella.
Speaker 4: I don't know how evens work, so I could explode.
Speaker 4: There's like some crazy oil and water thing where it's
Speaker 4: just there's magic fire that can't be put out, that
Speaker 4: goes everywhere and gets in your face and your scarred
Speaker 4: for life.
Speaker 3: There's super knives.
Speaker 4: There's just I'll just door dash or do my delivery stuff.
Speaker 2: For the end of time, and it's totally fine.
Speaker 1: What happens when they spit in it.
Speaker 2: I'll take spit over exploding, that's fair.
Speaker 3: What would happen if door dash uber eats move on
Speaker 3: grub hub? Just what say, there's some weird law that
Speaker 3: like Biden enacts before he leaves office. It's like they're
Speaker 3: all illegal all of a sudden. You can't use food
Speaker 3: delivery service.
Speaker 4: I guess you give me stuff, I get the stuff delivered.
Speaker 2: They put in the fridge, and you.
Speaker 1: Can't have that either.
Speaker 3: So the microwave, so it's microwave. You're fine with im.
Speaker 2: The microwave. I have no no worries about the microwave.
Speaker 1: Electrical fire, Oh whatever.
Speaker 2: That's fine.
Speaker 4: I've been using I've used a microwave a billion times
Speaker 4: in my life. I've used an oven like seven times.
Speaker 1: I've used my gas oven as many times as used
Speaker 1: a microwave, and I've been fine.
Speaker 4: Are there electric ovens, because I know there's electric gas
Speaker 4: stoves you.
Speaker 3: Can do like the flat ones the plates that just
Speaker 3: kind of heat up or no, they sometimes they're just
Speaker 3: not their flat surface the whole stoves flat serves are
Speaker 3: circles indicate where they're that's the oven.
Speaker 2: Wise, I don't know, Like I don't have a gas
Speaker 2: or like I could.
Speaker 3: Get one of those. I guess at some point, I
Speaker 3: think we got a nice one of those instead of
Speaker 3: the switch to I just.
Speaker 2: Never I just never. Look. I don't know.
Speaker 4: To find a way to expense the stove.
Speaker 3: Submitting your expense report to fandom. Uh, Nintendo's stove stove.
Speaker 4: An alarm clock. Now we'll get to that later. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm just fine.
Speaker 4: I've got my whole life without really having to learn
Speaker 4: any kind of cooking stuff. And I mean I can
Speaker 4: do the shelves and cheese thing now, and I can
Speaker 4: heat up my burn ends that.
Speaker 2: Requires you to boil water, So like I got that
Speaker 2: figured out.
Speaker 1: That's great. By the time you're sixty, you'll be able
Speaker 1: to make a salad.
Speaker 2: I don't need to. My dad's sixty.
Speaker 4: He doesn't know how to do anything. He knows less
Speaker 4: than I do. The North Star of people's not He
Speaker 4: just microwaves just cheesy, you know, bullshit whatever stuff like
Speaker 4: it's it's all just microwave like, you know, hot pockets
Speaker 4: and pizzas and stuff.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna sound like a dick. I think maybe not. Mary,
Speaker 3: you be the judge.
Speaker 1: Here we go.
Speaker 3: If you've gotten this far, go for it. I'm I
Speaker 3: think you're missing out on a very enjoyable part of life,
Speaker 3: which is actual cooked food.
Speaker 2: I'll put it this way.
Speaker 4: There were a few times in the last couple of
Speaker 4: years where I've been if there's one.
Speaker 2: Thing that hit me to do things, say, it's money.
Speaker 4: And I've gotten sponsorships from like Hello Fresh and shit before,
Speaker 4: and so I've done some Hello Fresh streams. So it's like, hey,
Speaker 4: they're paying me to cook, I'll cook. And it was
Speaker 4: actually laid.
Speaker 2: Out pretty well.
Speaker 4: I'm not getting paid by them right now, but it
Speaker 4: actually did teach me how to do it, and it
Speaker 4: was fun and it did taste very good. It's just
Speaker 4: the idea of doing that like every night for my
Speaker 4: dinners seems insane. And then to think that there are
Speaker 4: people that do that all the time, but with like
Speaker 4: more people like they do that with like oh I
Speaker 4: got to cook for two kids and another adult, Like
Speaker 4: that's the wildest shit I've ever heard of?
Speaker 3: Is the is it the time commit miss time concerns?
Speaker 4: And also it's just like stuff like a lot of
Speaker 4: these ingredients and stuff go bad in a couple of days.
Speaker 4: So it's like how do you fucking juggle like getting
Speaker 4: like you can't just you can't go to Costco and
Speaker 4: buy like cooking stuff. Yeah, it's like you're buying vegetables
Speaker 4: and stuff that goes bad and everything.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, I don't know. I got to a
Speaker 3: certain point in my life where cooking became this meditative
Speaker 3: way to end the day, working with my hands to
Speaker 3: create something. I don't know. I'm not, I'm I'm you know,
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: But you you're an organized person. I think like the
Speaker 1: thing that I feel like you feel like you don't
Speaker 1: have is that it's just so crazy that you would
Speaker 1: be able to schedule it and organize it. But you
Speaker 1: can schedule all sorts of stuff. You've never broken an
Speaker 1: embargo because you know how to set your calendar to
Speaker 1: something and keep your brain to it. It's the same
Speaker 1: thing with eggs. It's the same thing with lettuce. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You got to use it by
Speaker 1: the twelfth of October.
Speaker 4: You know, get it done way, Okay, Okay, so let's
Speaker 4: go the capacity. Yes, I could learn it, but I
Speaker 4: think a bigger issue is like I'm just trying to
Speaker 4: eat healthier now, and so like I'm like, okay, great,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get it. I can buy frozen broccoli, and
Speaker 4: I got an air fryer. That'd be a great way
Speaker 4: to make snacks throughout the day. It's just, you know,
Speaker 4: if it's some olive oil and salt and pepper and
Speaker 4: you know, lime juice and stuff on it and air
Speaker 4: fry some stuff.
Speaker 3: It's great.
Speaker 2: I bought it all.
Speaker 4: I have a bunch of broccoli florettes and my freezer
Speaker 4: and I did it once and it was awesome. But
Speaker 4: I would love to do that every day, but it's
Speaker 4: like I don't have time to, like between meetings and
Speaker 4: recordings and shit, to like preheat for five minutes, throw
Speaker 4: them in there and toss him around and put them
Speaker 4: in for another five minutes and like eat a whole
Speaker 4: pound of broccoli. I don't have time to do that
Speaker 4: between stuff, but I do have time to go, like
Speaker 4: eat a couple un crustables, which, by the way, I.
Speaker 2: Just discovered uncrustables.
Speaker 4: I think I could have got my entire life without
Speaker 4: knowing the glory of uncrustables because I was afraid because
Speaker 4: they had jelly in them, and why we're in Jersey
Speaker 4: and I just need to stock the fridge or some
Speaker 4: shit to eat during the day. Bank was like, you've
Speaker 4: never had uncrescibles, and I was like, no, It's like
Speaker 4: they're incredible. It's the perfect ratio of peanut butter and
Speaker 4: Jelly's enabling.
Speaker 2: Well, no bank knows what I.
Speaker 4: Like, and she knows good quality, and so she's like,
Speaker 4: you should get some smuckers on crustables.
Speaker 2: And I got past my fear of jelly.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: And then it's like, now I can open the door
Speaker 4: to uncrustables, and I'll be damned if it's not the
Speaker 4: softest bread, a great ratio, peanut butter, and jelly. I'm
Speaker 4: a big smuckers on crustables guy.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, a whole new world for you now that
Speaker 1: you've learned about jelly.
Speaker 2: It's true.
Speaker 3: I don't want to tell someone how to live their life.
Speaker 3: And I'm struggling because here we go. You say I
Speaker 3: don't have time. All you have time is place like
Speaker 3: twenty minutes less of echoes of wisdom, And they did.
Speaker 2: I had to beat that game. It was like twenty
Speaker 2: five thirty hours. I beat it. Okay, So tell me
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have beaten the game and done my job.
Speaker 3: You could have beaten it a day later if you
Speaker 3: had committed to. If you don't want to cook, then
Speaker 3: go for it.
Speaker 4: That BRONI isn't going The broccoli doesn't have a time
Speaker 4: where it's like, oh, we're still talking about broccoli. Like
Speaker 4: if I'm talking about echoes of Wisdom in February, it's like, oh,
Speaker 4: we're done talking about that.
Speaker 3: Fair enough October. But yeah, but.
Speaker 2: Is not embargoed.
Speaker 1: There's no embargo on broccoli.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. Okay, that's a bad example.
Speaker 3: I just think you could probably find twenty minutes in
Speaker 3: your day if you really wanted to cook.
Speaker 2: If you don't want to, I wish I could.
Speaker 3: I guarantee you gave me your schedule, I could find
Speaker 3: you twenty minutes in.
Speaker 1: Your what's the pie chart of your life? Where do
Speaker 1: you fill most of it? Sleeping?
Speaker 2: Sleeping is like six to eight hours?
Speaker 1: Okay, good?
Speaker 3: What else you got earlier?
Speaker 1: What else you got?
Speaker 2: I got?
Speaker 4: Okay, for every meal, I got to take out my
Speaker 4: fuck teeth gimmick and do a whole brushy thing and everything.
Speaker 4: So you add all that up, that's probably forty minutes
Speaker 4: my day.
Speaker 1: Forty minutes of teeth go on of teeth. Yes, we
Speaker 1: have eight hours of sleeping in forty minutes of teeth
Speaker 1: so far.
Speaker 2: Continue well, and there's very like bomb travels a lot,
Speaker 2: and so.
Speaker 1: When Bob Traveling document out, Okay.
Speaker 4: When Bok's traveling, I'm on dog duty, which means that
Speaker 4: you know, several times and taking them out, watching them,
Speaker 4: you know, take them on little locks and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So you know, I got the dog business going on.
Speaker 3: I just don't think you're eight. I know you're a
Speaker 3: busy person. Trust me, I'm aware you are. You are
Speaker 3: like busy to the point where you need like a
Speaker 3: personal chef to be cooking for you. If you wanted
Speaker 3: home cook.
Speaker 1: Meals, go ahead, Dan.
Speaker 3: What else besides I may find It's Mary and I
Speaker 3: can find twenty minutes in our schedule. And I'm not
Speaker 3: saying we use it to cook every time. I thinking
Speaker 3: if we could find it, you could probably find it.
Speaker 3: Put it this way too.
Speaker 4: I also try to play a ton of games to
Speaker 4: talk about them for working personally.
Speaker 3: Doing Mary Mary married? Do you know Dan plays a
Speaker 3: lot of video games? Oh Mary? What do you do
Speaker 3: with your time?
Speaker 2: Do you know how much wrestling is on every week?
Speaker 2: I'm multitasking.
Speaker 3: If I am.
Speaker 4: Watching wrestling, which is maybe a couple hours a week
Speaker 4: on a non pay per view week, I'm also playing
Speaker 4: my steam deck or my Switch while I'm watching wrestling.
Speaker 4: So you know that's maybe three hours if I have
Speaker 4: been to have a Monday open, I'm without three hour
Speaker 4: act two hours now of while I'm playing steam Deck,
Speaker 4: so I'm also playing my games.
Speaker 2: Then right, yeah, oh wait wait wait wait wait.
Speaker 3: How many times you hung out with Ben Hanson in
Speaker 3: the last two weeks? Three weeks?
Speaker 2: Not at all?
Speaker 3: Okay, but you see him a lot.
Speaker 2: Right, No, I told I was to Actually no, you
Speaker 2: know what, I did have Ben and friends. I did
Speaker 2: hang on. I had them over.
Speaker 4: I had a few friends over recently. Were telling them no,
Speaker 4: and I remember telling them, this is the first time
Speaker 4: I've been able to have anyone over since like early July.
Speaker 2: I'm so busy, you ask me busy I am, I'm
Speaker 2: telling you, and I'm getting knocked you son of a bitch.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 4: I run, I run, and my log runs could take
Speaker 4: two hours. I run four to five times a week.
Speaker 4: That's at least an hour every time.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: I try to meditate every day. Try to do that.
Speaker 4: That's let's put that down for like ten minutes a day.
Speaker 3: Stop meditating.
Speaker 2: No, meditating is healthier for you than broccoli.
Speaker 3: I love messing with Dan because.
Speaker 2: Doctor is its dentist, visits therapy.
Speaker 3: Get doctor Fernando on the phone, ask him how much
Speaker 3: sleep you really need?
Speaker 4: Pretty sure? Thing that sounds probably pretty smart. Give me
Speaker 4: your winter tires put on. I had to go to
Speaker 4: Costco this weekend. Constantly traveling, so I got no weekend
Speaker 4: time to do anything because I've traveled every weekend for
Speaker 4: the last four months or whatever.
Speaker 2: There's that I got. I haven't even got to the
Speaker 2: day job stuff. We got big stuff.
Speaker 4: Going on that we're planning for, like a round Game
Speaker 4: of the Year time. We got all sorts of stuff
Speaker 4: around the game Awards and Giant Bomb and night and
Speaker 4: then I'm on the BombCast every week. I'm on the
Speaker 4: Boys Moult Dump Truck every week. We do UPF, we
Speaker 4: do other streams, alter playing games.
Speaker 3: I know if our listeners.
Speaker 2: You're doing all the math there, there's not a lot
Speaker 2: of broccoli time.
Speaker 1: I'm doing all the math, and it's called eight hours
Speaker 1: of work and forty minutes of teeth.
Speaker 3: Doctor po Frind's time to go to the bar, and
Speaker 3: he's a doctor.
Speaker 4: I haven't been to a bar of Minneapolis in months.
Speaker 4: I don't think, no, I don't think. I can't remember
Speaker 4: the last time I've been at a bar in Minneapolis.
Speaker 3: Your life sounds horrible, Dan.
Speaker 2: I know it's all good. I'm just saying I don't
Speaker 2: have time for broccoli.
Speaker 1: Do you have time for broccoli?
Speaker 4: If it takes twenty five buck minutes to get it ready,
Speaker 4: I just need to throw his smuckers uncrustable in my head.
Speaker 3: Why does it take you twenty five minutes to make
Speaker 3: to what air?
Speaker 2: You gotta wait it.
Speaker 4: You put it in there for five minutes, You take
Speaker 4: it out, you toss it with the olive oil and
Speaker 4: all that gimmick, and then you got to put it
Speaker 4: in for another five minutes. So that's like you got
Speaker 4: like twenty minutes right there, and then it takes a
Speaker 4: big ass pound of bronze.
Speaker 2: It's gonna take me while eat, plus the shit I.
Speaker 3: Want to I want to. It takes you five minutes
Speaker 3: to preheat what the airfire?
Speaker 2: Let's say three minutes to preheat.
Speaker 4: That's three five minutes to put it in, dog, take
Speaker 4: it out, toss it around with all the bullshit.
Speaker 2: That takes a few minutes, and you gotta put it
Speaker 2: in another five minutes.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's thirteen minutes.
Speaker 4: Okay, thirteen minutes of making twenty two I'm a slow eater.
Speaker 4: I can't eat very fast, and a big pound of
Speaker 4: broccoli takes.
Speaker 3: A weak a year. You're gonna take just as long
Speaker 3: to eat delivered food though.
Speaker 2: No. No, for lunch, I almost always just have peanut
Speaker 2: butter sandwich.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so you're making something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but a peanberter sandwich is like five minutes and
Speaker 4: then it takes out. It's easy to eat a peanut
Speaker 4: butter sandwich quickly too, So that's like a ten minute deal.
Speaker 4: I can sprint and do between a recording and a
Speaker 4: meeting or something like that.
Speaker 3: Then you have meeting that you probably got to go to. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you got a show, you got a plan.
Speaker 1: Then you have meeting, and then you got guests.
Speaker 3: To fill up in the car and maybe a dog
Speaker 3: to walk. Two.
Speaker 1: I've done the math. If you have seven hours of sleep,
Speaker 1: forty minutes of tea, it's a one hour dog, two
Speaker 1: hour wrestle, two hour game, eight hours work, two hours.
Speaker 2: A week, two hour wrestle a week.
Speaker 1: If that, I'm giving it to you per day, you
Speaker 1: little bit.
Speaker 3: Shut up. She's trying to help your argument in your.
Speaker 1: This is for a twenty four hour day. Okay, one
Speaker 1: hour of run ten minutes of meditating, one hour of
Speaker 1: doctor slash.
Speaker 4: Other is a medical slash mental what whatever the fuck.
Speaker 1: You want to do with it, You have a whole
Speaker 1: hour for it, and then that gives you fifty minutes
Speaker 1: of cooking and eating.
Speaker 4: Oh shit, when are supposed to play video games?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Ju factor video games and yeah play video game does.
Speaker 1: Not include the two hours of wrestling. If you combine
Speaker 1: the work, the games and the wrestling, I have given
Speaker 1: you twelve hours of garbage.
Speaker 2: Twelve hours of garbage.
Speaker 4: What yes, twelve hours you're saying free.
Speaker 1: Work, games and wrestling.
Speaker 2: So how much is broccoli time?
Speaker 1: Fifteen minutes?
Speaker 2: Fifteen fifteen fifty?
Speaker 1: But you need to eat three meals?
Speaker 4: Right, So that's the thing. You didn't factor in breakfast.
Speaker 4: You didn't factor in dinner time.
Speaker 1: Banana done, broccoli twenty minutes. There you go dinner for dinner.
Speaker 4: It takes three minutes to hook eat up all my
Speaker 4: microwave meals for dinner. So that's three minutes right there
Speaker 4: and thirty minutes to eat.
Speaker 2: Not a lot of gaming time going on here, you know,
Speaker 2: there's just a billion tell.
Speaker 1: Us you're not fucking watching wrestling while you're also eating
Speaker 1: little factor meals or your little crusties.
Speaker 2: No, I eat upstairs. We don't have a TV up there.
Speaker 1: You stare yourself in the mirror while eating uncrustable.
Speaker 4: I sit at a little table in the in the kitchen,
Speaker 4: and I eat my I have the newspaper.
Speaker 2: I look at the news.
Speaker 1: You face a wall, you little freak.
Speaker 4: No, I face the table and read the newspaper. I
Speaker 4: checked you and stuff like that when.
Speaker 3: You read the newspaper, because I thought it'd be nice
Speaker 3: to have. That's that's a that's a noble pursuit. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: we'll give you that.
Speaker 1: You make time for reading a newspaper.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm vegetable while I'm eating.
Speaker 3: No, wait, you just told us that forever. You just
Speaker 3: told us recently that for every meal of the last
Speaker 3: few months you've been playing blatro.
Speaker 2: That also happens a lot too, is it?
Speaker 3: The newspaper is a blattro, Dan.
Speaker 2: It can be both. There's three meals a day.
Speaker 1: Let let us remind you you are under oath, Dan.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not.
Speaker 4: And then we didn't even back around the fucking fifty
Speaker 4: emails and one hundred texts and fucking slack messages and
Speaker 4: discords and bullshit. I got a new between all apps
Speaker 4: work hours.
Speaker 3: A day, between all your work.
Speaker 4: And then my dad can't figure out as Hulu because
Speaker 4: the fucking batteries died again.
Speaker 3: Oh do you want me to put.
Speaker 1: To scratch your ass?
Speaker 3: You have to tell an adult how to do adult things, Dan,
Speaker 3: I can't imagine what that must feel like.
Speaker 1: Joy putting ship time, Jesus.
Speaker 4: I'd like to have some time to have a conversation
Speaker 4: with Bianka.
Speaker 2: That'd be nice too.
Speaker 4: I'd like to pett a dog, have some time to
Speaker 4: pet a dog, maybe look at a book for a second.
Speaker 1: Why don't I take away some of your two hour
Speaker 1: hours of wrestling per day that I've granted.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't have two hours or wrestling a day by any means.
Speaker 2: You maybe two hours a week, maybe two hours a week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, time is very valuable. We do movie nights.
Speaker 4: We do a movie night every week, and that's important
Speaker 4: to have those times like we're just gonna set this
Speaker 4: aside and we're gonna watch a movie and that's good.
Speaker 4: So that's that's one night. There is lots of day
Speaker 4: specific things like that. I got physical therapy.
Speaker 1: You have time for broccoli.
Speaker 2: On a good day. Sometimes cherish those good days. I do.
Speaker 4: I cherish that broccoli that only happened once in the
Speaker 4: last two weeks. I've owned this broccoli, but it'll keep happening.
Speaker 3: That's good for you. I'm glad you're eating the broccoli
Speaker 3: once every two weeks. When I'm done with work, I
Speaker 3: just lay in the middle of the living room floor
Speaker 3: and fart for six hours. I didn't know you were
Speaker 3: doing so much stuff. That sounds amazing, meditating.
Speaker 1: It's good for you.
Speaker 3: True. So what else is up? Dan? It's new?
Speaker 2: You got an alarm clock?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we'll save that for the game section. Okay,
Speaker 3: because he was waxing poetic about this thing at dinner
Speaker 3: the other night. I don't work. It's not a game
Speaker 3: to me. Yes, it sounded awesome.
Speaker 4: It's a Nintendo so it's a Nintendo things, So I'd
Speaker 4: say that belongs in the gaming section.
Speaker 2: I got missed in the bullshit section.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh this has been this hasn't bullshit been? Good? Radio?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Thanks to doctor Fernando for the beers. I don't remember
Speaker 3: getting any of those, but that's fine.
Speaker 2: This just me and Bonello.
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Speaker 3: All right, Dan, everybody knows you want to talk about
Speaker 3: this alarm clock, so just go.
Speaker 4: Well, I just I'm just seating the future conversation because
Speaker 4: I just got back in town and I had my
Speaker 4: alarm oh waiting there, and so I went through the
Speaker 4: setup today. It's plugged in by my bed. You have
Speaker 4: to set up the sensor detection radius.
Speaker 2: Mary. Have you seen this thing?
Speaker 1: No, I need to see it.
Speaker 4: Nintendo made an alarm clock. It's called Alarmo and it
Speaker 4: watches you sleep and it's got a big, chunky fun
Speaker 4: button on the top. It's the most but it's like
Speaker 4: a dial for the settings and stuff and it's such
Speaker 4: a chunk fun button to hit uh.
Speaker 2: And you can set it to like shuffle.
Speaker 4: Between like twenty five thirty five different scenes from different
Speaker 4: games like Nintendo seven, like Mario's Platoon, Pickman.
Speaker 3: Uh, twenty five scenes total from games.
Speaker 4: We're gonna have downloadable ones. So yes, I had to
Speaker 4: tie my alarm clock to my Nintendo account, which is
Speaker 4: nice for alarm DLC.
Speaker 3: So the time to do this, Dan, it's my job.
Speaker 4: Three hours every couple of weeks with you assholes.
Speaker 2: I forgot to clock that.
Speaker 1: So true, we're taking we're taking a precious broccoli time.
Speaker 2: I forgot that broccoli.
Speaker 3: A Nintendo alarm could be frying a full turkey for
Speaker 3: right now. I'm not saying the stuff I do isn't stupid.
Speaker 3: It's just saying there's a lot to do. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: there's like what so like what Bowser's castle theme totterall?
Speaker 4: For instance, Like the one they showed off in the
Speaker 4: trailer was like like a Nintendo direct for a alarm clock,
Speaker 4: which is hilarious. So it's like, oh, okay, So Mario
Speaker 4: Odyssey Music is going to start playing to wake you up.
Speaker 4: So I set my alarm for seven thirty, so tomorrow
Speaker 4: will be my first morning I wake up to it.
Speaker 4: I set it all up today. So Mario Odyssey Music
Speaker 4: starts and it gets louder, and it gets louder if
Speaker 4: I don't get out of the bed because it's looking
Speaker 4: at you. And then if as you start moving in bed,
Speaker 4: it starts making sound effects, so like on the Mario scene,
Speaker 4: like as I move and toss and turn, I'll be
Speaker 4: like collecting coins. And if I wait too long, then
Speaker 4: like Bowser music starts and Bowser comes in and starts
Speaker 4: being really annoying, and it won't turn off until you
Speaker 4: like get up and get out of bed, and like
Speaker 4: there's like a splittoon one so I could wake up
Speaker 4: and if I move, it's just a bunch of inches
Speaker 4: like splat sounds until I know that, yeah, he's going
Speaker 4: to be a nightmare.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's just me. I had an alarm clock, the
Speaker 3: same one I still have it now, but I don't
Speaker 3: use the alarm there anymore, use my phone. But the
Speaker 3: noise of that alarm clock when I was younger, really,
Speaker 3: really really I associated it with, you know, getting out
Speaker 3: of bed starting the day in like middle school, in
Speaker 3: high school, and it was the worst. I don't want
Speaker 3: to resent Nintendo music for getting me out of bed.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe it would be different as an adult if
Speaker 3: I switch to a new one.
Speaker 4: But I'm actively playing. It's like, you know, I'm not
Speaker 4: playing Odyssey right now. I'm not playing Pickman right now,
Speaker 4: Splatoon I Have'm played in forever. Like, I don't think
Speaker 4: it's going to be like, oh, I'm getting too much
Speaker 4: of this, you know, But do.
Speaker 1: You get up? Do you enjoy waking up in the morning,
Speaker 1: Because I think what Mike is saying is that you
Speaker 1: will associate music you enjoy with an experience you don't enjoy,
Speaker 1: which is like waking up.
Speaker 4: That's a time we'll tell thing because yeah, tomorrow's the
Speaker 4: first morning.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Funny would it be if you got out of Nintendo
Speaker 3: jail but then all of a sudden couldn't play Nintendo
Speaker 3: games because you hate the music?
Speaker 2: Oh sure, sure, that's.
Speaker 1: Its own jail. It's like an own like hell associate
Speaker 1: you associate Mario with like waking up, and it makes
Speaker 1: you angry, So you've completely lost your love of all
Speaker 1: Nintendo games.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's I don't know.
Speaker 4: Considering I took like careers in both fields that I
Speaker 4: love video games in wrestling, and I still love video
Speaker 4: games and wrestling, I think I might be immune to
Speaker 4: the oversaturation of the things I love.
Speaker 1: Maybe it might be the case, K does it work
Speaker 1: with Amibo's No.
Speaker 2: There's no Ambo support from my alarm clock?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the perfect Ambo opportunity to put a little
Speaker 1: Amibo on there, and it's like, okay, now we know
Speaker 1: to set your alarm to doctor Mario.
Speaker 4: That would be fun because I used to get gimmick
Speaker 4: alarm clocks in college because I was always so bad
Speaker 4: at waking up, so I had one where it was
Speaker 4: like a helicopter thing that would take off and fly
Speaker 4: around the room, and you had to catch it and
Speaker 4: put it back on the stand before we'd go off.
Speaker 4: I had one where you set a target on the
Speaker 4: wall across the room and you had to pick up
Speaker 4: a laser gun and hit the target with a laser
Speaker 4: gun before you'd get up. I got one that would
Speaker 4: roll off the counter and just go whacky, like under
Speaker 4: your bed and roll around everywhere, and you had to
Speaker 4: catch it to turn it off. I had a bunch
Speaker 4: of real bullshit alarm clocks.
Speaker 3: I don't know if these existed. There's a whole industry
Speaker 3: I was aware of.
Speaker 4: This is around the time that I was just like
Speaker 4: tasering myself to get up, like I was trying everything
Speaker 4: to get out of bed. So I'm up for a
Speaker 4: gimmick alarm clock. So this seems like a more adult
Speaker 4: way to do that than.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like you progressed, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I've gotten better or waking up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wake up to the news on an alarm
Speaker 1: clock as well. Like I don't use a phone. My
Speaker 1: fear is that if I go to sleep with my phone,
Speaker 1: I'll look at the internet until I'm like literally falling asleep,
Speaker 1: which I don't like. I don't think it's a great
Speaker 1: way for me to fall asleep. So I don't have
Speaker 1: my phone in the room at all. It's downstairs on
Speaker 1: a charger, and I set a alarm clock which is
Speaker 1: called the dream machine to NPR, and I usually wake
Speaker 1: up to the morning news, which is super bland and
Speaker 1: boring and a perfect way to wake up.
Speaker 3: I like waking up. There's something very calming about the
Speaker 3: news as long as they're not talking about like nukes
Speaker 3: going off. Then it's a nice noise to wake up too.
Speaker 3: It's very jazz music.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like Mary, I think I'm of the same mind
Speaker 4: because I do the thing where I have my phone
Speaker 4: across the room from me, so I can't just like
Speaker 4: lay in bed and check the Internet or whatever the
Speaker 4: problem is. Alarm goes off, yeah you gotta get up
Speaker 4: and go turn it off. But then it's very easy
Speaker 4: to just flop back in bed and then spend twenty
Speaker 4: minutes dicking around on on your phone. So like, I
Speaker 4: want to do the same thing. I want to have
Speaker 4: the phone like two floors down and then I have
Speaker 4: to just fuck with bowser until I get up and
Speaker 4: then I can deal with my phone later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if a big
Speaker 2: chunky button does that.
Speaker 3: What is alarmo doing to keep you from just flopping
Speaker 3: back into bed?
Speaker 4: I think Bowser starts yelling at you if you don't
Speaker 4: get out of bed because it's motion detection. So I
Speaker 4: don't know if I can, like, I'm going to test
Speaker 4: and see if the big chunky button will like there
Speaker 4: has to like there are settings you can do where
Speaker 4: it's like, oh, yeah, you can hit the button to
Speaker 4: turn it off, and I want to see if the
Speaker 4: default mode is just like, no, you have to fucking
Speaker 4: get out of bed otherwise this thing's not going to
Speaker 4: shut up.
Speaker 3: Part of me is really excited to hear more about this,
Speaker 3: and the other part of me feels like this is
Speaker 3: the premise to a Black Mirror episode.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, yeah, it's funny exact.
Speaker 4: I'm talking optimistically about it now, But by the time
Speaker 4: this goes up on Monday, I'm sure I will have
Speaker 4: talked on like giant bumps up for personal strange about like, man,
Speaker 4: this thing's fucking annoying or I love this thing, so
Speaker 4: time will tell. I.
Speaker 1: Let's take votes. What do you think I think you
Speaker 1: will think it's annoying. I think Bank will think it's
Speaker 1: super annoying.
Speaker 4: Well, so that's the thing is Bank always gets up
Speaker 4: way before me.
Speaker 2: She gets up early, you know, runs.
Speaker 1: You know, she's like very very Can she set her
Speaker 1: alarm to it too? Will it go like whoa? And
Speaker 1: then she'll wake up and then.
Speaker 4: She No, she's not gonna do that. I don't think
Speaker 4: she could if she wanted to know. So, in fact,
Speaker 4: it doesn't really work if there's two people in the bed,
Speaker 4: which I saw people joking that like, oh, Nintendo made
Speaker 4: alarm clock that only works if you're single, but.
Speaker 3: So like if you're not, it will make you single.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if I'm gonna be if I'm setting it for
Speaker 4: seven thirty every morning, she's probably gonna be up and
Speaker 4: doing her by by that time.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 4: So by the time Bowser's coming after me, I think
Speaker 4: Bank will have started her day.
Speaker 3: So we'll see it's seven thirty, your standard wake up time.
Speaker 4: That's what I try for, But a lot of times
Speaker 4: it's like, you know, we record these later, and uh,
Speaker 4: you know, the weekends are always all over the place,
Speaker 4: and so man, it really depends.
Speaker 2: But you try for seven thirty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like a good seven o'clock. I feel like
Speaker 3: that's a good time. I enjoy playing games in the
Speaker 3: morning over coffee now more than I do late at night.
Speaker 3: But yeah, if we like tomorrow morning, for instance, I'll
Speaker 3: probably get up closer to eight or something. Sure, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I want to if you're still using alarmo by the
Speaker 3: time we're in Minneapolis, it's going to be funny to like,
Speaker 3: I'm assuming I could hear it from the other room.
Speaker 4: I should just set it up in the room that
Speaker 4: you guys are in. Yeah, I guess you guys, I'll
Speaker 4: deal with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to wake up to alarm up.
Speaker 2: Maybe I do inksplat sounds.
Speaker 1: I want to wake up to New Donk City. I
Speaker 1: want to hear what it sounds like.
Speaker 4: You know what, let's do that because we're getting dinner
Speaker 4: and going to the watch the Tyson fight on Friday night.
Speaker 4: I'd probably have some drinks, be up a little late.
Speaker 4: All set up a armo in the room you're in,
Speaker 4: and you can report on it during our game of
Speaker 4: the year.
Speaker 1: Thank you well.
Speaker 3: Sounds great.
Speaker 2: Just don't break any of my fingers this time.
Speaker 1: I never I have. You're not going to catch me slipping,
Speaker 1: I've never heard of.
Speaker 2: I didn't press charges.
Speaker 1: No, but you did fall someone at their wedding.
Speaker 3: And I forgot to talk about this in the bullshit
Speaker 3: section at the beginning. I went to Hawaii for the
Speaker 3: first time last week to my good friends Brad and
Speaker 3: Zoe got married in Hawaii. He's from Sydney, so that's
Speaker 3: halfway between New York and or sorry, Hawaii is halfway
Speaker 3: between New York and Sydney, so that we did a
Speaker 3: destination thing and they brought up Brad and Zoe had
Speaker 3: been here hanging out with Amanda when we started our
Speaker 3: live show, so they heard about the mac and cheese
Speaker 3: when we started the show last year. So I had
Speaker 3: to tell the story about the mac and cheese tub
Speaker 3: to a bunch of Australians and Texas that I did
Speaker 3: not know. And then it like I was trying to
Speaker 3: tell it in an adult way because we're at a wedding.
Speaker 3: But the more I went on, the more I realized
Speaker 3: how deranged the whole thing was.
Speaker 2: Imagine me having to explain it to several doctors.
Speaker 3: Yeah, these these were these were some of these people
Speaker 3: were doctors that they were mine Men of Science.
Speaker 4: Yes, so the podcast that would get it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, he gets it. But anyway, Uh, Mary, what
Speaker 3: have you been playing.
Speaker 1: I've been playing Neva, which is the It's a new
Speaker 1: game published by Devolver from the people who made Greed,
Speaker 1: which I believe was spelled g R I s and
Speaker 1: I used to say, oh, Chris, but I think that
Speaker 1: it's Greed.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And it was a nice, beautiful game Greed, but it
Speaker 1: didn't have, in my opinion, the mechanics or gameplay that
Speaker 1: I was looking for, and I ended up kind of
Speaker 1: playing through it thinking it was fine, but not having
Speaker 1: strong memories of it and thinking it was really important
Speaker 1: or worth playing again. Never is actually quite a charming
Speaker 1: and well thought out puzzle platformer, Dan, and I think
Speaker 1: you're gonna like it Never Never.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna download it in Eva got it all right.
Speaker 2: It's on the list.
Speaker 1: So it has a very charming visual style, like Greed does.
Speaker 1: They're known for this. I mean it is stunning. It's
Speaker 1: like playing a water color. Their choice of colors, their
Speaker 1: character designs, the audio is just tremendous. It is a
Speaker 1: It is incredible what they were able to construct visually.
Speaker 1: Their art director is a genius, and I just think
Speaker 1: it's a stunning masterpiece visually.
Speaker 3: What they do.
Speaker 4: For all these pictures don't have much in the way
Speaker 4: of a hud Does the game do that? Where it's
Speaker 4: like there's a lot of stuff obscuring.
Speaker 1: The screen and there's no talkie at all, well.
Speaker 4: Not just talking, but like like hut elements like health
Speaker 4: bars and numbers. I'm not saying a lot there, So
Speaker 4: is it just like a painting.
Speaker 1: There's like nothing, there's nothing every once in a while, Okay,
Speaker 1: there is, there's some. It's very very limited. They will
Speaker 1: do stuff like saying I'm trying to like not do
Speaker 1: spoilers either, but they'll do stuff well, they'll be like
Speaker 1: uh uh. In the very beginning of the game, they'll
Speaker 1: be like, oh yeah, if you want to double you
Speaker 1: can double jump now, so hit a twice. So very simple.
Speaker 1: None of the puzzles have any visuals. There's no dialogue
Speaker 1: because it's one lady and a bunch of animals, and
Speaker 1: so the only thing that she says is never because
Speaker 1: it's the name of the animal, and so all of
Speaker 1: her dialogue is calling the animal.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: This one reminds me a bit of Treco the last Guardian. Hey,
Speaker 1: that was cool, I said, the same time, it's kind
Speaker 1: of like, uh, you're training the animal a little bit.
Speaker 1: You have to guide it, you have to tell it
Speaker 1: what to do. It helps you in combat, which is
Speaker 1: pretty cool. It helps you solve puzzles. Then, the only
Speaker 1: thing this character says is never. That's all it's said.
Speaker 1: That's all they say, never, never, never, And you just
Speaker 1: kind of like control the animal and guide along its way.
Speaker 1: But where I think it gets interesting. I think I
Speaker 1: suspect that the first hour of this game, a lot
Speaker 1: of people will be like, oh, this is just a
Speaker 1: very simple platformer. But as it progresses, there are really
Speaker 1: interesting mechanical puzzle designs that are very well thought out
Speaker 1: and again require no text. It's just visually guiding the
Speaker 1: player of what to do. And there are these more
Speaker 1: difficult platforming puzzles that are optional, and the only way
Speaker 1: that you get them is if you just see a
Speaker 1: platforming section and you're like, oh, I wonder if I
Speaker 1: could do that, and you'll noodle on it for a
Speaker 1: little bit and maybe spend ten minutes figuring it out.
Speaker 1: Once you do it, you just get to the top
Speaker 1: and there's like a little plant and it gives you
Speaker 1: a nice little audio that you made it, and that's it,
Speaker 1: and you.
Speaker 3: Don't have to do that.
Speaker 1: You don't have to do any of those. But I
Speaker 1: found the more difficult sections for platforming really fun and enjoyable.
Speaker 1: And they're little secrets. You have to look for them.
Speaker 1: You can miss them if you're not paying attention, so
Speaker 1: it's got like really good secrets. I was pretty floored
Speaker 1: by some of the puzzle design where I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is difficult, but it's understandable and it is all
Speaker 1: makes sense mechanically what it's telling you to do over time.
Speaker 1: I never got stuck. I never was like totally out
Speaker 1: of my element. I figured every puzzle out within about
Speaker 1: ten minutes, which was really fun. It made me feel
Speaker 1: really smart. I was so pleasantly surprised with the puzzle
Speaker 1: platforming in this game. It's miles beyond what Greed was
Speaker 1: able to do. And I just think for people who
Speaker 1: played Degree and was like, ah, it's not really what
Speaker 1: I was looking for. You gotta try Neva because it's
Speaker 1: doing something else. And if you've never heard of those
Speaker 1: games before, just look at the trailer for Neva because
Speaker 1: it is so visually stunning. It might be what carries
Speaker 1: you to give it a purchase. It's it's it's really
Speaker 1: up there for me this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this does look really sharp.
Speaker 4: I'm definitely curious and it seems like, I mean, if
Speaker 4: there's not a lot of dialogue or anything, seems like
Speaker 4: you probably get into it pretty quick.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you're looking to google it. It's any v A.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, I'm curious.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. Because they were the studio. This is Devolver
Speaker 3: that published it. Correct, No, Mada is a Spanish studio.
Speaker 3: I remember when Greece first came out, they were talking
Speaker 3: about how they were trying to go for like a
Speaker 3: Journey meets uh, what's the Xbox platformer or ban Jo
Speaker 3: Kazui vibe like this.
Speaker 1: I think this one's closer to or Oh interesting.
Speaker 3: Cool.
Speaker 1: It's not a metroidvania, but it has or like platforming
Speaker 1: elements to it that I think are akin to it.
Speaker 1: There is a double dump dump. There is a double
Speaker 1: jump and dash. No, I don't want that associated.
Speaker 3: With it's a triple dan. You want up?
Speaker 2: You got the turkey?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I go, I gotta play this Nefa game.
Speaker 3: There's a double dump in.
Speaker 2: It double dump, double dump, damn.
Speaker 1: It, there's a double jump and.
Speaker 2: Dash, the double dump and dash, the triple d No.
Speaker 3: The old double dumping dave. It's on many of those.
Speaker 3: To a seven eleven in my day.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, double dumping dash.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah yeah, they called me the poop band,
Speaker 3: and you clog it up.
Speaker 2: And you gotta get out of there. Before anyone realized
Speaker 2: it was you.
Speaker 4: It could be anyone still on the lookout gott tektos
Speaker 4: and then ship their.
Speaker 1: Pants they know it was you.
Speaker 3: I was wearing a Bolla clava and brown underwear to
Speaker 3: ship up a seven eleven. Oh god, never sounds. I
Speaker 3: want to play it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I feel like I've sold it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. The fact that you say this is
Speaker 3: more like or than Greece was it actually does make
Speaker 3: me want to play it because it.
Speaker 1: Even has full sections. It's like the original or if
Speaker 1: you remember, there were sections of ri where they were
Speaker 1: kind of like time based. So something's chasing you and
Speaker 1: you have to do a very you have to do
Speaker 1: it an amount of the escape jump and dashes and
Speaker 1: climbing seams parts in succession dumps and dashes. Yeah, never
Speaker 1: has sections like that, which I think is really cool.
Speaker 1: So I think it's really well made and just a
Speaker 1: beautiful experience, and so I really do recommend it. It
Speaker 1: just took I want to say, it took like thirty
Speaker 1: or forty minutes before I was like, oh, okay, this
Speaker 1: is special. So you might find that the very beginning
Speaker 1: is very simple because it is very humble origins of
Speaker 1: just you know, you can double jump up here, and
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, I know. And I thought at first
Speaker 1: it was going to be too easy, but it gets better.
Speaker 4: I'll decide some days to do broccoli and some days
Speaker 4: to do Neva, so yeah, time, but yeah.
Speaker 1: Spend your spend your time on Neva. I approve of
Speaker 1: you giving up broccoli for today or tomorrow if you
Speaker 1: want to play Neva. Yeah, okay, good.
Speaker 3: Speaking of playing a game for forty minutes before it
Speaker 3: gets good, Dan, I'm hearing that metaphor refantasio that correctly
Speaker 3: takes like ten hours and then all of a sudden
Speaker 3: it's great. And I asked this to be clear. I
Speaker 3: asked this as someone who like Santa. Okay, I asked
Speaker 3: because Dan, I'm genuinely bonk and I we talking about
Speaker 3: this the other night and me and her share that
Speaker 3: we share a love for this kind of game. She's
Speaker 3: been trying to get me to play, not trying to
Speaker 3: get me, but recommending shin megab ten say five for
Speaker 3: a while, and I love Persona five. I'm curious about
Speaker 3: metaphor because I like this style of Atlas RPG.
Speaker 4: Okay, I've never played an Atlas game, I think, before this,
Speaker 4: and so I specifically start Yeah, but it was that
Speaker 4: night I went in with the best of intentions. Uh
Speaker 4: it was you know, Mike, you and Bank were talking
Speaker 4: about it. I've heard so many people talk about, like, oh,
Speaker 4: we got a new Game of the Year contender in town.
Speaker 4: And I was like, you know what, I am going
Speaker 4: to go into this open minded. I'm not just going
Speaker 4: to be like, Hey, this story heavy j RPG stuff
Speaker 4: isn't for me.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to like it. Everyone likes this a lot.
Speaker 4: I know, good games not every games for everyone, but
Speaker 4: it's like, I'm at least going to give this an earnest,
Speaker 4: real try. And before I started, Bonk was like, hey,
Speaker 4: make sure you you know, put like at least a
Speaker 4: couple hours into this before, because you know, it is
Speaker 4: story heavy uptop. And it was like no problem, Like
Speaker 4: two hours, I can handle that problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can do that.
Speaker 4: I was. I was on the road, so I had
Speaker 4: no U I had no obligations at home or work
Speaker 4: or any think.
Speaker 2: It was. I laid in bed with the steam deck.
Speaker 2: I was like, let's do this.
Speaker 4: The one of the very first things that happened the
Speaker 4: first time you have control over the game, and Mary,
Speaker 4: I'm curious that this sounds appealing to you. So a
Speaker 4: bunch of anime happens, and as as is want to
Speaker 4: happen in animes, You're like a fire emblem kid and
Speaker 4: there's a king and there's a bunch of swords and
Speaker 4: magic fire wands and a lot of just like, oh,
Speaker 4: I'm an evil prince, and.
Speaker 3: You're actually paying attention like you just told us you.
Speaker 2: I was looking.
Speaker 4: There was no wrestling on the background. I wasn't thinking
Speaker 4: about broccoli. I just sat there and I was paying
Speaker 4: attention to it. And then it stops and there's a
Speaker 4: scene or a screenshot where it says the person speaking
Speaker 4: is scheming man, and it says is fantasy limited to
Speaker 4: the confines of imagination? Would you call it a powerless creation?
Speaker 4: And you have to choose, like that's right or no.
Speaker 4: And I looked at that one screen and got so mad.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, brother, this stinks, this is this
Speaker 4: is not. I can't fucking handle this. This is and
Speaker 4: I know it's not for me, So I'm not I
Speaker 4: don't want to go all dest stranding Red Dead two
Speaker 4: this game, so I'm not gonna say the game sucks.
Speaker 4: Everyone says it's a really good game. I believe them,
Speaker 4: But I almost quit right there, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 4: I got to at least get through the first couple hours.
Speaker 2: I quit.
Speaker 4: I almost quit six times before finally quitting twelve minutes in.
Speaker 1: Let me let me just stop for you for a second.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: You said, because you're a really big person, that it
Speaker 1: was very important that you got through multiple hours because
Speaker 1: it was asked of you.
Speaker 2: I thought I could do it quit.
Speaker 1: Six times, but you made it twelve minutes, and it was.
Speaker 2: It was. It was some of the toughest twelve minutes
Speaker 2: of my life.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: At no point did I feel like I was playing
Speaker 4: a video game. I controlled an fire emblement guy as
Speaker 4: he ran around and dodge, saying for thirty seconds before
Speaker 4: another cut scene about philosophy or capitalism or something started.
Speaker 3: Dan, Can I read a quote for you and then
Speaker 3: you have to guess what game it's from?
Speaker 2: Please? Oh? Is this gonna be the Is this metal Gear?
Speaker 2: Is this? Uh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm on the dumbest lines in metal Gear?
Speaker 2: Read it? Go ahead, Yeah, I's hear it. I'm a shadow.
Speaker 2: I understand why this is a hypocritic?
Speaker 3: Yes, made my point? No?
Speaker 4: No, no, okay, So I well, here's the thing. Metal
Speaker 4: Gear is about real life. I'm gonna we don't have.
Speaker 2: To wands in the real world. Mic, I'm gonna.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna the Cold War happened, man, metal Gear is
Speaker 4: teaching about history. Okay, okay, Nukes are concern. Magic is
Speaker 4: not one who's said lessons.
Speaker 3: About the real world.
Speaker 2: The other is nonsense.
Speaker 3: Nukes are concerned would be a really good soundboy bite. Yes,
Speaker 3: I will say even Persona five, like one of my
Speaker 3: favorite games, took and Again, I'm the first person to
Speaker 3: say if a game takes ten hours to get good,
Speaker 3: it's probably a bad game.
Speaker 2: I've never had patience for that.
Speaker 3: I most at LISS games I've played d truly, you know,
Speaker 3: to people's points get much better when they get out
Speaker 3: of their own way and let you actually go back
Speaker 3: to the home base, like, talk to your party, improve
Speaker 3: a relationship, and then go back into a palace and
Speaker 3: do the heist, do turn based combat, maybe merge a
Speaker 3: few Persona like once they actually get out of their
Speaker 3: own way, let the systems actually kind of you're having
Speaker 3: fun for a while. I think they're great. However, I've
Speaker 3: also never played a Persona game. Persona four is intro
Speaker 3: is relatively short compared to other ones I played. I
Speaker 3: wish they would get out of their own way sooner.
Speaker 4: But I think one of the reasons I don't. One
Speaker 4: of the reasons I thought this might work better for
Speaker 4: me than like a Persona is.
Speaker 2: Persona's about fucking.
Speaker 4: Like high school kids, like in their problems, and I
Speaker 4: could not give less of a shit. I thought if
Speaker 4: metaphor was actually about like big you know, kingdom concerning
Speaker 4: things and kings and queens, stuff, I thought would at
Speaker 4: least better than diff hits in high school.
Speaker 3: Okay, but Persona is about high schoolers. However, as you
Speaker 3: go into the game, it becomes more and more about
Speaker 3: like nation, like Japanese government, and like suicide conspiracies. It's
Speaker 3: not about high school really, they're just high schoolers who
Speaker 3: are pulled into bigger situations, which is more real than
Speaker 3: all the kings and queens stuff we just talked about.
Speaker 4: But look, if I don't love kings and queens and
Speaker 4: fantasy stuff and swords and all that. Yeah, but like
Speaker 4: I would take that over high schoolers any day, like
Speaker 4: cause I don't know, I just what could possibly be
Speaker 4: interesting about that versus like at least like I like
Speaker 4: Game of Thrones, that was fantasy and that's school. I
Speaker 4: like Zelda just because it doesn't talk too much like it.
Speaker 4: I can like things with swords and magic, it just
Speaker 4: can't fucking talk all the time or be stupid like
Speaker 4: Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 2: And so I was willing to give this a shot,
Speaker 2: but it's just like, oh man, it was.
Speaker 4: It's a brutal, brutal start, and I could not do it. It's
Speaker 4: probably a good game, probably good twelve minutes, though, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean my tolerant for that horseship is unbelievably low.
Speaker 4: Is fantasy limited to the confines of imagination? Would you
Speaker 4: call it a powerless creation? I'll put it to the panel.
Speaker 4: What do you guys think?
Speaker 2: You've got it all wrong?
Speaker 3: You are the lightning in that rain, you could still
Speaker 3: shine through the darkness. I'm a shadow, one that no
Speaker 3: light will shine on. As long as you follow me,
Speaker 3: you'll never see the day. Is that metal year? Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's great Fox, it's a conversation between riding and raidin
Speaker 3: and snake. Wait you are Yeah, let's just say tell
Speaker 3: me some cool metal her life so you'll know this one.
Speaker 3: This one, I'm actually not convinced, is dumb. You are
Speaker 3: above even the boss. Okay, hereby awards you the title
Speaker 3: of big Boss.
Speaker 2: You know who says that, Lyndon B. Johnson, Yeah, alive.
Speaker 1: Even your dogs.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I guess now this is pretty funny.
Speaker 3: Actually too, I guess that would be a good time
Speaker 3: to mention that my father killed himself because I slept
Speaker 3: with my stepmother.
Speaker 4: Oh that sounds like somemodicon shit. Yeah yeah, okay, that
Speaker 4: guy sucks so famous lighting in that raign it's you know,
Speaker 4: I'm just teasing you. I also, I've had to fight.
Speaker 3: Through the beginning of many an Atlas game and then
Speaker 3: all of a sudden I get too games. I love
Speaker 3: so again, I'm kind of being a hypocrite by saying
Speaker 3: if you have to fight through several bad hours, then
Speaker 3: the game's probably not that good. I stand by that
Speaker 3: from a philosophical standpoint, but I also will be the
Speaker 3: first to admit that I love games that start terribly sometimes.
Speaker 4: I mean even games though that are more in genres
Speaker 4: that I'm prone to liking. Like it's one of the
Speaker 4: reasons I never liked Assassin's Creed is like I remember
Speaker 4: people talked up Brotherhood and some people like were like, oh,
Speaker 4: check out three, the setting school or whatever. I remember
Speaker 4: giving Brotherhood and three a shot and being like, it's
Speaker 4: five fucking hours in and I don't even have my cloak.
Speaker 4: I'm not even jumping off of buildings and stabbing people yet, Like,
Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck about Desmond or whatever. Don't
Speaker 4: make me do this stuff for hours before I do
Speaker 4: the cool Assassin stuff. It's like and every Assassin's Create
Speaker 4: to me was like that, just like a bunch of
Speaker 4: boring ass story before you do the cool stuff.
Speaker 3: You want to just skip the four play.
Speaker 2: I just want to play a video game at the
Speaker 2: end of the day. That's it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And like if I don't feel like I'm playing
Speaker 4: a video game, I'm gonna hate it. And I played
Speaker 4: twelve minutes of this, and I didn't feel like I
Speaker 4: understand it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's the whole point of it is to like
Speaker 1: have agency, and I feel like in a lot of
Speaker 1: these ways, when they start with too much story, it's like,
Speaker 1: now I'm not here to watch a full length feature film.
Speaker 1: That would be great and that's lovely if you can
Speaker 1: convince me that there is a film worth of value
Speaker 1: in here. The Last of Us does such a good
Speaker 1: job of having a cinematic intro. But I am in control, right,
Speaker 1: I am running around, I am trying to save my daughter,
Speaker 1: I am driving, I am dealing with a lot of
Speaker 1: zombie situation. But it also pulls me into an incredible story.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's just some of this that can
Speaker 1: be lost when it's just like dialogue, heavy dialogue, so
Speaker 1: much story, and ultimately I'm like, but what am I
Speaker 1: doing here? Why am I playing this?
Speaker 3: Half life too? Still one of the best intros to
Speaker 3: any video game ever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, or even like little things like you know, like
Speaker 4: BioShock was good about like oh, you could walk around
Speaker 4: while listening to the audio logue, so it's like, okay,
Speaker 4: you're getting in kind of the flavor details and stuff
Speaker 4: about rapture while you're like going around searching through trash
Speaker 4: cans getting shit and you know, looking for collectibles. It's
Speaker 4: I want to feel like I'm playing a video game
Speaker 4: pretty much at all times. Yeah, and let's MIDDLEGEG gets
Speaker 4: the pass for everything.
Speaker 3: Speaking of yeah, a few episodes ago, I had said
Speaker 3: I was getting back into Diablo Ford to see how
Speaker 3: it's doing. And now Vessel of Hatred, the big expansion,
Speaker 3: is out. So I've been playing the new character class,
Speaker 3: the spirit Born, and I've been trying out the new
Speaker 3: campaign area recruiting some new Mercenary AI companions. First off,
Speaker 3: spirit Born class is extremely fun.
Speaker 4: You've been talking about this at dinner the other night.
Speaker 4: That actually made me half interested in you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, even if you're not playing the new
Speaker 3: class and you don't have Vessel of Hatred, I think
Speaker 3: the game's in a much much better spot than it
Speaker 3: was last year. Again, I talked about this a few
Speaker 3: episodes ago, but in general, I think the loot is
Speaker 3: more rewarding. I think the pacing is better for leveling
Speaker 3: up and crafting your abilities and just crafting in general,
Speaker 3: getting better items for your specific character. The spirit Born specifically,
Speaker 3: I would describe it as a mix of the Monk
Speaker 3: from Diabolo three and as Unfortunate and you know all
Speaker 3: the tropes at trafficked in was the witch Doctor from
Speaker 3: It's like they took the witch Doctor and made it
Speaker 3: not offensive and they combined it with the monk. So
Speaker 3: you are basically this Your weapons are all spears or
Speaker 3: glaves or bostaffs, and then got the armor designed for
Speaker 3: this character is so fucking cool. I'm trying to think
Speaker 3: of like a movie it compares to, but you know,
Speaker 3: like they come out of like the jungle biome so
Speaker 3: covered in awesome tattoos. They get really cool weapons, but
Speaker 3: most of their attacks are like quick punch like hand
Speaker 3: to hand like even the monk from Ballersgate three kind
Speaker 3: of class but combined with I'm doing the the poison build.
Speaker 3: Basically everything I do is either leaving a trail of
Speaker 3: poison behind me, applying poison to one enemy and when
Speaker 3: they die, a swarm of flies will go to other
Speaker 3: enemies nearby. My if people punch me, they get poison,
Speaker 3: So I'm doing a lot of thorns, which is the
Speaker 3: effect again when you get hit, they take damage, but
Speaker 3: now it applies poison. They're a very fun class, and
Speaker 3: they're also pretty nuanced. Like I spent twenty minutes looking
Speaker 3: through the skill tree the other day just seeing different
Speaker 3: potential classes, because it's it's one of those things where
Speaker 3: you like, I put all of my abilities right now
Speaker 3: into the green the Centipede skills they're called, So I'm
Speaker 3: going really heavy on poison, but of course you can
Speaker 3: mix and match if you wanted to. At a certain point,
Speaker 3: you do this hunt side quest to unlock the passive ability,
Speaker 3: and then the pass ability you pick from like the
Speaker 3: Spirit of the Gorilla, the Spirit of the Skyhawk, the
Speaker 3: Spirit of the Centipede, and this spirit there's one animal
Speaker 3: I missing, But those give you specific passives that can
Speaker 3: either it'll say like, oh, anytime you use a centipede
Speaker 3: style attack, you'll do this effect, or anytime you use
Speaker 3: a gorilla style effect, you'll get this buff. Secondarily, that
Speaker 3: passive will also make every single attack you do a
Speaker 3: gorilla style. So basically the passive is just saying like
Speaker 3: you're choosing the style of martial art that is inspired
Speaker 3: by the spirit from the jungle. But the really cool,
Speaker 3: well rounded class and they're also they've got that quick
Speaker 3: snappiness that the monk had in Diablo three, which is
Speaker 3: my favorite class. Like if you go to punch someone
Speaker 3: from far away, it'll warp you to them and you'll
Speaker 3: just do like three quick jabs their chest. It's really satisfying.
Speaker 3: I'm playing on PS five and it's it's just feels
Speaker 3: great on controller. My ultimate again, I just summon this
Speaker 3: giant centipede who shoots out poison globes when he first
Speaker 3: comes out and then starts thrashing around in the middle
Speaker 3: of the battle.
Speaker 1: Are there anything that poison doesn't poison? Is it weak
Speaker 1: against anything?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there are certain enemies with resistance to it.
Speaker 3: I don't know exactly what it is. I'm not that
Speaker 3: well versed in the game, but I think there are
Speaker 3: certain like areas where the enemies have a proclivity for
Speaker 3: like antidote or whatever it is. But yeah, the armor,
Speaker 3: all the new armor sets, like each piece of armor
Speaker 3: I get just looks awesome on this character. And that's
Speaker 3: not again. I played the Necromancer recently when I went
Speaker 3: back to the game, and those all look great. Like
Speaker 3: that game is just in a like Diablo three esque state,
Speaker 3: and Diablo three was a game I played a lot.
Speaker 3: This game is still not as cartoonishly fast paced as
Speaker 3: three was, but it still feels great and it feels
Speaker 3: like they got away. The storytelling is still pretty, you know,
Speaker 3: goth and macabre, and it feels like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: I'm not fourteen anymore, so I'm don't really I'm not
Speaker 3: like craving that Diablo two kind of horror that they
Speaker 3: were going for, But it feels like they're with this
Speaker 3: expansion of the storytelling, they've kind of gotten away from
Speaker 3: that in a good way in my opinion. The environments
Speaker 3: are really cool looking in the new Jungle area, and
Speaker 3: they've got there's another thing where you basically can recruit
Speaker 3: these AI mercenaries who then act as your companions, which
Speaker 3: is really nice to be playing solo. I've not played
Speaker 3: co op yet. I actually don't know if if you
Speaker 3: play co op, can you each bring one of these
Speaker 3: mercenaries in? But you know, there's one that's like a
Speaker 3: tank mercenary. He's a one armed blacksmith who can you know,
Speaker 3: taunt enemies and then draw attention away from you. There's
Speaker 3: another one who's a like reformed cannibal, and she's very
Speaker 3: much like their despicable character, or like she is despicable character,
Speaker 3: but like she's useful in a fight. Yeah, I'm having
Speaker 3: a blast with it. It's it is a full fledge expansion.
Speaker 3: It reminds me of maybe not quite the scale of
Speaker 3: Reaper of Souls with D three, but in terms of
Speaker 3: something that introduces a new character class, a new area,
Speaker 3: which if you have the expansion and you start a
Speaker 3: new character class, as long as you've beaten the campaign
Speaker 3: in the if you start any new character class, you
Speaker 3: can just skip the campaign. You'll go right into the
Speaker 3: open world. You'll have the new Jungle area. It's available.
Speaker 3: It's just down in the southwest of the map. You
Speaker 3: can explore it leisure, rank up, do all the side activities,
Speaker 3: get new armor at a pretty rapid pace. It's a
Speaker 3: they've They're starting to figure that game out really well,
Speaker 3: and I'm enjoying it.
Speaker 4: I keep wanting to, like, once I have a good
Speaker 4: tounk of time between games, I want to play that
Speaker 4: because that came out when I was in the middle
Speaker 4: of moving and so I just never really got a
Speaker 4: chance to play it because I thought i'd be able
Speaker 4: play it on Steam Deck. But if you have to
Speaker 4: always have a connection with that one, so like it's
Speaker 4: not good for planes and things like that, so I
Speaker 4: was frequently enable to play it. So it feels like now,
Speaker 4: anytime after now, it would probably be a great time
Speaker 4: to jump in.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, even if you don't play the
Speaker 3: spirit Born, play the Rogue, play the Necromancer, what have you.
Speaker 3: When the game first launched, I tried it and I
Speaker 3: bounced off, like I did not enjoy at all. It
Speaker 3: missed those power jumps that made earlier Diablos, but especially three,
Speaker 3: really satisfying for me. You'd get that one armor piece
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, you're one hitting enemies that
Speaker 3: you were just taking ten hits previously to kill. Or oh,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, your attacks are leaving this trail
Speaker 3: of fire all over the map as you sprint around,
Speaker 3: so there's more of that now your character. It's still challenging,
Speaker 3: especially if you play on like, if you find the
Speaker 3: right difficulty level, it can be challenging, and a lot
Speaker 3: of these bosses do force you to really switch up
Speaker 3: your uh. I mean, you're still rotating your spells in
Speaker 3: a similar way, but like, oh, I actually have to
Speaker 3: use potions that sprint away from this dude, and all
Speaker 3: of a sudden. Now I'm running away from people because
Speaker 3: they're too powerful, and that poison trail effect is useful
Speaker 3: because they're chasing me while I'm healing, but they're getting
Speaker 3: poisoned behind me. So then I go back to them
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, I'm doing more damage. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm having a blast with it. It's still a very
Speaker 3: you know, passive experience as far as video games go.
Speaker 3: But and yeah, it's definitely tickling the lizard brain kind
Speaker 3: of game design. But right now it's I'm really joying it.
Speaker 2: Sometimes that's fun and welcome. Yeah, one of those.
Speaker 3: It's what I want when things are crazy, and that's
Speaker 3: like I have, you know, an hour to play a
Speaker 3: game or something like, yeah, sure I'll get that fucking
Speaker 3: sweet new grave that does fire damage and then I'll
Speaker 3: do poison damage alongside it.
Speaker 2: Sometimes that's just the right type of game.
Speaker 4: I was on a plane today for a few hours
Speaker 4: and I was like, Okay, I'm gonna you know, I
Speaker 4: got all these you have fifty games to play and
Speaker 4: these other ones to check out, and it's like I
Speaker 4: just play Blattro the whole time again. So like, sometimes
Speaker 4: you just want to like brain completely off play something
Speaker 4: very comfortable.
Speaker 3: You know, I'd started a new Stardoo Valley farm on
Speaker 3: the way to and from Hawaii.
Speaker 1: Now, I was gonna say, what did you do on
Speaker 1: the plane ride, because that's such a long travel experience.
Speaker 3: You got to have something recent flights, I've gone just
Speaker 3: to Vampire Survivors or Bilottro. But yeah, the Starduo Valley.
Speaker 3: The farm's not super far along. I have sprinklers and
Speaker 3: everything doing their shit now. But I just did the
Speaker 3: base map. I know there's a bunch like the islands
Speaker 3: and the river map. I want to try those, but
Speaker 3: every time I go back, I'm like, I kind of
Speaker 3: just want to mess with the base map again and
Speaker 3: go meet the townsfolk and do that shit. Yeah. Outside
Speaker 3: of that, I watched what movie did I watch?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: I watched I've rewatched Once upon a Time in Hollywood.
Speaker 3: I watched it for the second time. I don't know,
Speaker 3: this is probably not a cool movie to like, but
Speaker 3: I've really fucking enjoyed that.
Speaker 2: Generally liked it. I was mixed on it. It wasn't
Speaker 2: like my favorite and it wasn't my least favorite. Is stuff.
Speaker 2: You know, I thought you had moments?
Speaker 3: Did you watch it? Once. I'm curious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just once in the theater I watched I
Speaker 2: saw in theaters.
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, that was fine, Like I don't
Speaker 3: think it was as arduous to watch as Hateful Eight.
Speaker 3: Also like a movie I still think is too long, And.
Speaker 4: That's the only one I haven't seen his, And I'm
Speaker 4: still curious even though I hear it's not great that
Speaker 4: that movie.
Speaker 3: I guess if it's gonna have a fighting chance, you've
Speaker 3: got to be like settled in on a winter night
Speaker 3: with a big glass of whiskey and wine.
Speaker 1: I saw that in theaters and was like, it just
Speaker 1: keeps going.
Speaker 3: It was an intermission. The ending was real weird. But
Speaker 3: once upon a time in Hollywood, I don't remember being
Speaker 3: this funny. Like I was laughing pretty hard on the plane,
Speaker 3: and it takes I mean, I think it takes a
Speaker 3: lot to get anybody to laugh hard when they're watching
Speaker 3: something by themselves. Amanda was watching it with me, Like
Speaker 3: some of the lines that Leo delivers were and Leo's
Speaker 3: really good at those, Like like Wolf of Wall Street,
Speaker 3: he has a bunch of those lines where he just
Speaker 3: says something really fucking stupid. Yeah, but I give that
Speaker 3: movie another chance. If you just don't have anything to
Speaker 3: watch and you have fucking three hours to kill, watch
Speaker 3: that movie again.
Speaker 2: Did you rewatch anything else? Mike?
Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, what was it? My wife watched the movie
Speaker 3: she had never seen before. I'm trying to remember what
Speaker 3: it was. Oh right, the best movie ever made. Amanda
Speaker 3: finally saw Mgruber and fucking lost her shit like that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because we talked a last episode like that's kind of
Speaker 3: a litmus test. I'm like, I've never I've talked about it,
Speaker 3: you know, add nauseum to Amanda. But uh yeah, on
Speaker 3: Friday night, we were we did like nothing the weekend
Speaker 3: before Hawaii because you know, we're getting ready to travel,
Speaker 3: and I said, uh, we've been wanting to watch Dunkirk.
Speaker 3: It's just like the one Nolan movie she hasn't seen.
Speaker 3: So we're like, we could watch Dunkirk. It's kind of
Speaker 3: an anxiety attack for two hours, but you know, we
Speaker 3: can watch it. It's really well made. I think it's
Speaker 3: actually one of his best movies. Or we could finally
Speaker 3: watch Macgroober. She's like, Okay, you know what.
Speaker 4: Which one of Christopher Nolan's favorite movies. I'm not kidding,
Speaker 4: is it really, he has said in interview, is how
Speaker 4: much he loves mcgoober.
Speaker 3: Yes, so it's we start watching it, and you know,
Speaker 3: you could tell. I could tell. She was immediately like
Speaker 3: locked into the humor good even the song.
Speaker 1: You have to be in the right mindset because it's
Speaker 1: so stupid. It's so utterly stupid.
Speaker 3: She was aware of the SNL skits right, however, she
Speaker 3: did not know it was like The Lonely Island Crew
Speaker 3: basically minus Andy. It was a lot of.
Speaker 4: People assume it's like a Badass and L movie that
Speaker 4: is based on the like kind of one note sketch.
Speaker 4: They don't realize it's a Lonely Island action parody. And
Speaker 4: it's like if you like pop Star or like hot Rod,
Speaker 4: it's like better than both of those, I think.
Speaker 3: And she and I watched Palm Springs like twice a
Speaker 3: year still, and she's like, oh, I didn't know it
Speaker 3: was like drama and I forget so the third one sorry.
Speaker 3: So you know, like immediately A stormed the songs like
Speaker 3: we made a fucking movie. She was all right, that's
Speaker 3: pretty funny. Yeah, And then as soon as he blew
Speaker 3: them all up with C four, he's like tug tug
Speaker 3: the fuck. I hate him, but I love him at
Speaker 3: one point, and I actually know I know the point.
Speaker 3: It was when he was walking into the club with
Speaker 3: his radio, in his white suit and the blonde hair
Speaker 3: and the sunglasses. She's like, are we supposed to think
Speaker 3: he's kind of hot?
Speaker 2: No? I was like, all right, that's hot, that's right
Speaker 2: before he takes an upper decker.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he goes up to the bartender. He's like,
Speaker 3: i'd like an X five. Don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3: He slams his face in the bar. He's like, he
Speaker 3: didn't know anything.
Speaker 4: And weird calling that waiter handsome, that guy I know
Speaker 4: they're mar why don't you abandon the mission? And why
Speaker 4: don't you marry him?
Speaker 3: And then he points out like objectively not great looking dudes.
Speaker 2: Like go interview him, go watch him. That guy, not
Speaker 2: that guy.
Speaker 3: But no, I don't. I legitimately, I don't think I've
Speaker 3: heard my wife in the entire time we've known each
Speaker 3: other laugh as hard as she did when Because it's
Speaker 3: a one two punch. If you're a fan of Top Gun,
Speaker 3: the sex scene is a one two punch because first,
Speaker 3: after you know, you get in the rhythm. She loves
Speaker 3: Roadhouse too, so the throat ripping was like hell yeah,
Speaker 3: right up her ally as well. When the take These
Speaker 3: Broken Wings starts to play, you're like, oh, they're doing
Speaker 3: Amasa top Gun. Great, this movie's even better. And then
Speaker 3: she starts fingering his belly button. This is hilarious, and
Speaker 3: then the music cuts and he's just hard yeah hard
Speaker 3: cut to him, just like feral humping, while Kristin Wig
Speaker 3: is clearly laughing but trying to cut heard up And
Speaker 3: I've never heard my wife laugh like harder in her life.
Speaker 3: And of course, like the more the scene goes on,
Speaker 3: the harder.
Speaker 1: You laugh because it's so awkward.
Speaker 3: Sorry, it's not on one two punch, because the upper
Speaker 3: cut comes when the same exact thing happens with the
Speaker 3: ghost of his dead wife on her tombstone.
Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, I don't.
Speaker 1: Really described this film very accurately.
Speaker 3: Nothing I said just now was exaggeration. If anything, I've
Speaker 3: played some of it down. And also Amanda's like super
Speaker 3: into anything, uh with val Kilmer. So also she said
Speaker 3: the same exact thing that I think our favorite thing
Speaker 3: about the movie is it's like there's not a single
Speaker 3: cast member that's not fully on board with the humor
Speaker 3: and understands the assignment, you know, like, yes, Val Kilimer
Speaker 3: powers booth, Ryan Philip Well, Kristen Wig obviously would be.
Speaker 1: But likes carries a lot of that for.
Speaker 3: Sure, but like you expect her to. Whereas like Ryan
Speaker 3: Philippie comes in here, like why is he this funny
Speaker 3: and why is he on board with putting Celery in
Speaker 3: his ass in this scene?
Speaker 1: He just says he's an actor.
Speaker 3: I still the two I'll shut up in a second,
Speaker 3: but I still.
Speaker 1: Think haven't we discussed detail?
Speaker 3: I still think are I might be butchering it. But
Speaker 3: he says you better, we better dig a ditch out
Speaker 3: back for all the dead bodies just gonna get pretty
Speaker 3: smelly in there, And then Ryan Philippine says, that's a
Speaker 3: really gross way to put it.
Speaker 4: It's a very funny line, but also I'll suck as
Speaker 4: many throats, but just so fucking stupid.
Speaker 3: When Val Kilmer and his henchman come up to the
Speaker 3: nuclear warhead and he's looking up at it and he's like,
Speaker 3: have you ever been to d C? And his henchman's
Speaker 3: like no, He's like, I was talking to the missile.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, but I figured a man like yeah, but
Speaker 3: like I didn't think she got harder than I did
Speaker 3: the first time.
Speaker 2: Well, godspeed, We're watch it again this weekend.
Speaker 3: She doesn't know it yet, but good watch it again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the second viewing is the real judgment.
Speaker 2: There's it does get better.
Speaker 3: We were just saying this the other night, like there
Speaker 3: are some jokes in that movie that are funnier when
Speaker 3: you're expecting them, Like of course, when the sex scene
Speaker 3: comes out of nowhere for the first time, it's just shock,
Speaker 3: and from there it becomes hilarious. But there's someone you're
Speaker 3: anticipating you also burst out laughing. Mary, what else you've
Speaker 3: been playing?
Speaker 1: I played Astrobot finally. Yeah, Dan was hyping it up.
Speaker 1: It is very good. It is so imaginative, and there's
Speaker 1: probably not too much more I can add that. I
Speaker 1: don't think you haven't said about how I mean, it's
Speaker 1: obviously an extraordinarily well executed game. There's so many more
Speaker 1: elaborate worlds in this one is just longer and more
Speaker 1: enjoy than the last Astrobot that I played. So it's
Speaker 1: really fun, especially when you get a Astrobot, and it's
Speaker 1: because there's I think seven per level that you're rescuing,
Speaker 1: and if you miss one, they're in the order that
Speaker 1: you should be collecting them in. So if I miss one,
Speaker 1: I can always go back and find it, which is
Speaker 1: really nice in a lot of those levels. So it's
Speaker 1: a nice Yeah, it's so nice for collectors to just
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, I got them all. Now I can
Speaker 1: enjoy the level. The little dances. The amount of polish
Speaker 1: in this game is unreal. I do actually have a
Speaker 1: gripe with it. I think that the boss fights are
Speaker 1: mid really yeah, I think they are. I think they are.
Speaker 1: They are okay, And I'm not saying it's like bad.
Speaker 1: I'm saying this game is phenomenal. But I was told ten,
Speaker 1: and I think that the bosses are like an eight.
Speaker 4: That's okay. I disagree, but uh, you know, to each
Speaker 4: throne with me. I just thought that like they're a little.
Speaker 1: Easy maybe for like little baby children.
Speaker 2: They're not super hard.
Speaker 1: Baby baby ass baby.
Speaker 4: Mode speed Run launches this weekend. That's when that's when
Speaker 4: the real big boys come out to play.
Speaker 3: Who's the Who's the Giant bomb? That's really good?
Speaker 2: That's me.
Speaker 4: Cub just keeping were no, we're already talking about it.
Speaker 4: Where it starts now.
Speaker 1: I think I saw a clip from the leaderboards when Chef.
Speaker 3: Crub in broccoli to think about though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's so good at eating broccoli too. I think
Speaker 1: that's another thing.
Speaker 4: That Hey, look, we're both gonna go back and forth.
Speaker 4: He's gonna have times where he beats my time. Mike
Speaker 4: Manatti is gonna try out astro speed running for the
Speaker 4: first time. I'm excited to see nobody's.
Speaker 1: Worried about man we're talking about.
Speaker 4: He's done this before. He's out of his league. He's
Speaker 4: not a speed runner, so, okay, dumb questions.
Speaker 1: Throwing MANAATEI in there is fodder. Yeah, you could probably
Speaker 1: meet Manti.
Speaker 4: He thinks he can step in with the big boys.
Speaker 4: He's never done speed running a basketball.
Speaker 3: A lot of people think I'm a good speed runner.
Speaker 3: Won't say who, but there's many.
Speaker 2: People are saying I'm the best. Many people they all agree.
Speaker 3: Okay, dumb question. Though, speed running mode I'm assuming would
Speaker 3: have nothing to do with the bots. You just get
Speaker 3: through the level as quickly, right.
Speaker 4: And the way they're doing it is. I love that
Speaker 4: they are doing it smarter than fucking Nintendo did with
Speaker 4: their speed run specific game that didn't even have fucking
Speaker 4: leader boards. It is going to be five levels, and
Speaker 4: it seems like I didn't know they were going to
Speaker 4: do it this way. It seems like they're going to
Speaker 4: purse them out because the first one comes out as
Speaker 4: of this recording any hour now. I mean by the
Speaker 4: time we're done, I might be able to load it up.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 4: If they're doing one a week for five weeks, I
Speaker 4: think that'd be smart. And I think I love that
Speaker 4: idea of just having like a week to fixate on
Speaker 4: one level and try to really hammer that one down
Speaker 4: instead of like, oh, I'm gonna kind of cherry pick
Speaker 4: and do this level or this one. There's five at
Speaker 4: once to choose from, so I think I'm just gonna
Speaker 4: obsess over them one week at a time, and uh yeah,
Speaker 4: it's going to be a fucking blast. I think in
Speaker 4: World per week, it's not World, so it's it's decade
Speaker 4: speed Run levels.
Speaker 3: Oh, they're new levels.
Speaker 4: My understanding is that it's no specific levels. I don't
Speaker 4: know if they're gonna be that long, because like the
Speaker 4: ones that were in the speed Roun levels in the
Speaker 4: playroom were not super long. They were just incredibly tight,
Speaker 4: you know, so I'm expecting more of that, hoping for
Speaker 4: more of that because it was fucking incredible in the
Speaker 4: last one. So I think this is really smart. I
Speaker 4: think I'm going to get dangerously into this ship, so
Speaker 4: that's going to be great.
Speaker 3: Mary, how far ish would you say you're into it?
Speaker 1: I'm about yeah, two hundred and forty. I've completed every planet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I've completed the PlayStation.
Speaker 2: Got it? Okay?
Speaker 3: Can I put you on the spot and fuse it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's really very good. And the
Speaker 1: only negative I really had was that I thought the
Speaker 1: boss fights were a little like an afterthought considering how
Speaker 1: thoughtful these games are, so I would say it's a nine.
Speaker 1: It's very good.
Speaker 4: I loved the boss stuff where it's like they would
Speaker 4: typically utilize whatever the gimmick of the level was, so
Speaker 4: it's like, oh, this octopus, you got to make sure
Speaker 4: you're using the gloves to kind of pull on his
Speaker 4: eyes and beat him up and stuff, and then like
Speaker 4: in between the phase would be like a level part
Speaker 4: where like the waves go down and you have this
Speaker 4: platforming section and grappling section before you go beat them
Speaker 4: up again. Like I loved it, I guess. I guess
Speaker 4: it didn't work as much for you, but I don't know.
Speaker 4: I thought they looked amazing. They were all huge and awesome.
Speaker 1: They look amazing. I think that the first three bosses,
Speaker 1: I was like, that's it, Like they were just so simple, like,
Speaker 1: you know, just one and done. I felt like they
Speaker 1: were The combat in general of this game is very simple, right,
Speaker 1: You just punch them and they fly off the screen
Speaker 1: and explode. Like. It's not a very complicated game, and
Speaker 1: that's fine. Not every game has to be difficult in
Speaker 1: order to be good. So I think the dificulty level
Speaker 1: is like really low in this game. I think even
Speaker 1: Mario bosses like tests you a little bit more with
Speaker 1: how it attacks and things like that. I thought that
Speaker 1: some of the bosses were just straight up like I
Speaker 1: just thought that I was burning through them. I couldn't
Speaker 1: believe that they didn't make them a little bit more
Speaker 1: challenging for the player.
Speaker 4: I think the most challenging stuff in Astrobot is those
Speaker 4: like PlayStation button levels, like the you know, the cross,
Speaker 4: the square of the triangle, like the it was just
Speaker 4: kind of linear ones were did you do the lava one?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean I.
Speaker 1: Like the ones that were featured as well. I will
Speaker 1: say there were times when it was mimicking a game.
Speaker 3: Like Escape.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Oh so cute when they were like, we're playing homage
Speaker 1: to a game and that is the most important thing.
Speaker 1: God of War. It was so cute. They even had
Speaker 1: like you know I'm talking about like they had the
Speaker 1: giant thing that you lift with your strong hands to
Speaker 1: get the item inside, and they made it feel so
Speaker 1: heavy even though you're astrobot and so he's like and
Speaker 1: this giant stone device is opening for you. I mean
Speaker 1: that is just so again, so much detail and so
Speaker 1: much care just to be like it's kind of like
Speaker 1: Got a War. You know.
Speaker 4: It's just so sweet where you have to like slowly
Speaker 4: go into the crevice and stuff and you're collecting the
Speaker 4: crows and stuff. Like, Yeah, they pay homage to a
Speaker 4: bunch of great games and also Horizon zero don.
Speaker 1: Yes, And also this is a nice little dick uh
Speaker 1: Drake Drake's Fortunes. They had a couple a nice little
Speaker 1: homage Dad as well, Like they had an explosion scene
Speaker 1: where like you you shoot something, you get a gun
Speaker 1: in that level, which is so crazy att Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you're like you're shooting everybody and everything's exploding and cars
Speaker 1: are swinging around. It's really fun, like they've they did
Speaker 1: so much effort with that type of thing.
Speaker 2: Much love went into this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: I do think it's a It's a fantastic game. There's
Speaker 1: no question that it's a very well made game, and
Speaker 1: I super recommend it for people. I did. I had
Speaker 1: a bit of a sticker shock I shouldn't have, but
Speaker 1: like at the sixty dollars price mark, I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, well this better be like a really good experience,
Speaker 1: and I do think it's worth the sixty dollars, Like
Speaker 1: I just I think it is.
Speaker 4: Especially if we want to do the three hundred bots
Speaker 4: and then if you get into the speed run stuff,
Speaker 4: like there's definitely like a lot there, Like I'll play
Speaker 4: through this whole game again for sure. I just there's
Speaker 4: just so much joy every moment I was playing it.
Speaker 4: So but no, I see what we're saying. It's not
Speaker 4: a difficult game, even to like one hundred percent. I
Speaker 4: don't think it's particularly difficult outside of a few of
Speaker 4: those linear, like smaller levels, And you compare it to Mario,
Speaker 4: like I think Mario does a better job of Like, Okay,
Speaker 4: if you just want to beat it, it's going to
Speaker 4: be easy enough. But also if you want to get
Speaker 4: like all this shit you're going to go through, so
Speaker 4: you want to get all of it, you get crazy
Speaker 4: ass levels. Yeah, like, yeah, Mario has more there if
Speaker 4: you really want to challenge yourself. But in terms of
Speaker 4: just like pure joy and exploration, you know, I put
Speaker 4: this up with the best of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is joyous, there's no question it's it's so
Speaker 1: it's it's like colorful and sweet and cute, and there's
Speaker 1: fills of surprises and they do their little dances. Ah,
Speaker 1: it's a very sweet little game. So yeah, I've I've
Speaker 1: loved it. I've enjoyed it. I'll also say when the
Speaker 1: original Astrobot came out, my parents were visiting me and
Speaker 1: they always want to know a little bit about my work,
Speaker 1: which is very nice. And it's hard to put on
Speaker 1: a game that your parents can play or understand. And
Speaker 1: I put on an Astrobot, the VR one or the
Speaker 1: original one, and the well, not the original one, because
Speaker 1: I think the original one was ps like a device.
Speaker 4: Yeah, anyway, the playroom thing technically, but then it was
Speaker 4: like as far as the platformers, it was the VR
Speaker 4: Rescue Mission, and then it was Playroom, the one that
Speaker 4: came with the PS five.
Speaker 1: Okay, so the Playroom, and my parents actually could play
Speaker 1: Playroom and like pick it up and understand it. I
Speaker 1: think that this is the same type of game, whereas
Speaker 1: like if I had a six year old that was
Speaker 1: visiting me, or if I had a parent that like
Speaker 1: isn't much of into understanding games, I could give them
Speaker 1: a controller and be like, just punch stuff. They will
Speaker 1: figure it out and they will enjoy that experience. And
Speaker 1: I think that's meaningful for people to be able to
Speaker 1: give them a game and let them explore and play
Speaker 1: and have a good time. So I think it's a
Speaker 1: universal game. But for someone looking for a hefty challenge,
Speaker 1: I think it's it left a little to be desired.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's fair, so easy good for Dan, but not
Speaker 1: not for me.
Speaker 2: I'm a speed runner records.
Speaker 1: Well then win, you can't win, just.
Speaker 2: Fucking I will drive around to no easy way out.
Speaker 3: Oh dude, you want to do like a promo video
Speaker 3: where I'm at the top of the stairs with an
Speaker 3: Adrian wagon, be like can.
Speaker 2: Your dresses ag?
Speaker 1: You can't beat him?
Speaker 4: I'm just saying flashes of grub as I'm driving around
Speaker 4: my Super U.
Speaker 3: It just keeps coming back to me at the top
Speaker 3: of the stairs.
Speaker 4: Ah KFPR three nine two license plate instead of South Paw.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh. Playroom was the game that I was playing in
Speaker 3: the lounge at game Spot when Dan put a permanent
Speaker 3: marker in front of my face. So when I leaned forward.
Speaker 2: Rescue Mission it was the VR one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, rescue mission, Yeah, rescue Mission, And so I got
Speaker 3: permanent marker on my face because he put it in
Speaker 3: front of me, so I leaned into it. While I
Speaker 3: was playing this VR game, real playing Mario Party Jamboree,
Speaker 3: I did. I did.
Speaker 4: It's I've reviewed it for GameSpot dot com. I don't
Speaker 4: know if you two are familiar with that website, but
Speaker 4: you should look up my review. I've been doing writing
Speaker 4: for game Spot and I've really been enjoying it to
Speaker 4: bring me back to my roots. You know, did the
Speaker 4: Nintena Museum article, did the Middle of your Solid Delta preview?
Speaker 4: And now I first review in a long time, it's Jamboree.
Speaker 4: I'm actually on the very low end if you look
Speaker 4: like the Metacritic and stuff of this. I've even seen
Speaker 4: in the YouTube comments that this reviewer must not like
Speaker 4: Mario Party or must not friends to play with. And
Speaker 4: I love seeing people being like, oh, this guy obviously
Speaker 4: has it out for Mario Party, doesn't like Mario Party.
Speaker 2: Now, I've got high standards for Mario Party.
Speaker 4: It's always a weird series to review, and I've been
Speaker 4: reviewing them since the GameCube ones because a lot of
Speaker 4: times you have to play a lot of solo Mario Party,
Speaker 4: which even for me is awful.
Speaker 2: The idea of playing Mario.
Speaker 4: Party solo is just it's like all the falts are
Speaker 4: laid bare, all the like, you know just how long
Speaker 4: it takes to go around the board, and just everything's
Speaker 4: so laborious and random bullshit and all that stuff. Like
Speaker 4: it's just like all the good parts of Mario Party
Speaker 4: and the chaos and fucking your friends over and laughing
Speaker 4: and stuff like that is gone. And you just are like,
Speaker 4: oh God, this is what I've been playing. But then
Speaker 4: something magic happens when you get some friends together. So like,
Speaker 4: I didn't love this, I liked this. I like Mario Party,
Speaker 4: jan Boree, but as of this recording tomorrow, I'm getting
Speaker 4: grub and Minatti and Bailey, and we're gonna do like
Speaker 4: a three or four hours stream of playing this and
Speaker 4: drink beers and stuff, and I'm sure it's gonna be
Speaker 4: a fucking blast, but I stand by my complaints. They
Speaker 4: really touted like this is the biggest Mario Party ever,
Speaker 4: It's got twenty two characters, it's got one hundred and
Speaker 4: twelve mini games, most mini games ever. But like, as
Speaker 4: I played it, I was like the party mode, I
Speaker 4: was like, why do these keep seeing a bunch of repeats?
Speaker 4: And then I realized, like, oh shit, like almost half
Speaker 4: of that one hundred and twelve is tied up in
Speaker 4: other modes. Like there's a lot of bloat in this.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of modes for like here's like a
Speaker 4: single player thing, here's a two player like flying mode
Speaker 4: and stuff. Here's this like cooking minigame thing, and here's
Speaker 4: all these online modes that you may or may not play,
Speaker 4: and a lot of the games are exclusive to those.
Speaker 1: So it's like, oh, the games are exclusive to the
Speaker 1: mode that you're playing, So you're actually not getting one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty games for.
Speaker 3: The actual games you play every mode, some of which
Speaker 3: are but that thing is like I played all those
Speaker 3: modes a lot while I was reviewing it, and like,
Speaker 3: I just don't see myself going back to any of these.
Speaker 4: Maybe all dabble with more of the online stuff once
Speaker 4: it's actually like out, but everyone just wants to play
Speaker 4: the main party mode. That's what Mario Party is, and
Speaker 4: it's kind of some of the most just like wrote
Speaker 4: mini games are in the party mode. A lot of
Speaker 4: them are just kind of really slow paced and laborious.
Speaker 4: And I know random chance has always been a big
Speaker 4: part of Mario Party, but like a lot of them
Speaker 4: lean on it in this one, and it's it's just
Speaker 4: a bummer because I think there was almost it seems
Speaker 4: like there was more priority put into like putting a
Speaker 4: little something for everyone, regardless of if you're solo or
Speaker 4: have one person over versus the four player mode. And
Speaker 4: it's like, man, I just wish they would have focused
Speaker 4: on the four player mode, because like the maps are good,
Speaker 4: and it's the best original maps they've had since at
Speaker 4: least the GameCube era, because like nine and ten were
Speaker 4: those weird we and WEU ones where you're all going
Speaker 4: in the same car, you know, Super Mario Parties maps
Speaker 4: were bad. Mario Party Superstars were great maps, but they
Speaker 4: were all like greatest hits from the sixty four era.
Speaker 4: So like, man, like some of these maps, like this
Speaker 4: mall map and this raceway map and stuff like, they're
Speaker 4: really solid, clever maps. But when a lot of mini
Speaker 4: games aren't really up to snuff, especially coming off of
Speaker 4: Mario Party Superstars, that was a greatest hits of Mario Party.
Speaker 4: So it's like you've got all the best most fun
Speaker 4: minigames from like ten plus Mario Party games. Now all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, here's a bunch of original ones that
Speaker 4: aren't that great. There are some really good ones, but
Speaker 4: for the most part, they're like kind of mid to
Speaker 4: low tier. I don't know, it's just I have a
Speaker 4: feeling I'm gonna now that it's new, I'll play a
Speaker 4: few rounds with you know, I'll play it this holiday
Speaker 4: with my family. I'll play I'll do a couple of
Speaker 4: streams with it with Giant Bomb and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: But like, I think after this winter, I'll probably just
Speaker 4: be going back to Superstars. Like I think that's the
Speaker 4: maybe the best Mario Party ever. So I don't know,
Speaker 4: there's a lot, a lot of a lot of complaints,
Speaker 4: uh summer nippicky. Some I think are more substantial, but
Speaker 4: overall it's not exactly what I wanted, and stuff like
Speaker 4: the twenty player online mode is kind of not what
Speaker 4: I think some people wanted. Uh it's it's not a
Speaker 4: twenty player Mario party game. It's a separate mode that's
Speaker 4: just not gonna get a lot of replay value, I think.
Speaker 2: So what is it.
Speaker 4: It's like, so there's like a racetrack and there's just
Speaker 4: one track basically with like a bunch of spots on it,
Speaker 4: and you play these mini games against you know, nineteen
Speaker 4: other people or bots, and every coin you get you
Speaker 4: advance a space and you have to finish like a
Speaker 4: certain number of laps to win. And the thing is, though,
Speaker 4: it just repeats a lot of these mini games and
Speaker 4: they're kind of longer, and some of them aren't great.
Speaker 4: So it's like, oh, here's this like claw machine type
Speaker 4: thing where it's like all you do is hit a
Speaker 4: to like move your finger forward to scoot stuff off
Speaker 4: the edge, and you have to do that for a
Speaker 4: while to get coins, and it takes a while, and
Speaker 4: then like it'll go through two other minigames and you're
Speaker 4: right back to that one. So you might do that
Speaker 4: three four times, and it's not really fun the first time.
Speaker 4: So every time these kind of pull up like, oh man,
Speaker 4: I got to do this for another fucking however long.
Speaker 2: So it's not super exciting.
Speaker 4: It's not like you're going around along you know, board
Speaker 4: game thing and doing all the mini games. It's like
Speaker 4: specific mini games that are maybe not the most exciting that.
Speaker 3: Struck me as their take on something like Fall Guy,
Speaker 3: Like the tournament kind of format, is that fair at all?
Speaker 4: Yeah, in fact, the Bowser levels in that because it
Speaker 4: usually does like too many games, and then like a
Speaker 4: Bowser stage that is like an eliminator type thing. So
Speaker 4: it's like, okay, all twenty of you are running away
Speaker 4: from Bowser and Bowser's destroying the floor and you're falling down.
Speaker 4: You're trying to survive, and it's very kind of Fall Guys.
Speaker 4: And I said in the review, like there is really
Speaker 4: a place for Mario Party to incorporate stuff from, like
Speaker 4: you know, inspired by Fall Guys or the Battle Royale
Speaker 4: genre or these more like larger multiplayer modes. I think
Speaker 4: that'd be a really cool thing to introduce to Mario Party.
Speaker 4: But this one it just kind of feels half baked.
Speaker 4: And a lot of these mini games are just not
Speaker 4: very exciting, so I can't see.
Speaker 2: Myself I want.
Speaker 1: They probably don't get the time for the quality of them.
Speaker 1: Now there's a question. I know we don't usually read
Speaker 1: comments on reviews, but Dashness asks, but what's the rating
Speaker 1: if you're six years old? And I think that's a
Speaker 1: really good question for your review.
Speaker 4: I think if you're six years old, six years old
Speaker 4: or forty, I think Mario Party Superstars is the better option.
Speaker 1: You think that they would give it a thick out
Speaker 1: of ten.
Speaker 2: I think they would give it a thick out of
Speaker 2: That's hard to do.
Speaker 3: He doesn't like Male Patty. Why's he viewing it?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I loved I heard people say, I'm just saying
Speaker 4: that Nintendo, and yeah, I just don't have friends to
Speaker 4: play with, so you always got to work on that.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but no, I like it. I'll play plenty
Speaker 4: of it. It just uh yeah, Super Serves is a
Speaker 4: lot better.
Speaker 3: Okay, good to know, Mary Slay. The Princess sounds very
Speaker 3: familiar e from last year when it's like a weird,
Speaker 3: like graphic novel, black and white kind of thing.
Speaker 1: It is I played Slay the Princess because it is
Speaker 1: Halloween season and I like to play scary games this
Speaker 1: time of year, so I was going to play a
Speaker 1: different game, and my chat I was streaming was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: you really should try Slay the Princess if you've never
Speaker 1: played it before, and I was like, yeah, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do it right now. So I downloaded
Speaker 1: it and I played it on stream. I beat it
Speaker 1: on so I want to say it's about three and
Speaker 1: a half hours to complete. This is That was my experience.
Speaker 1: I think could be different based on how you play it.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: For a graphic novel, which I do not like nor play,
Speaker 1: I thought this was very good, but I have to say,
Speaker 1: like I just don't care for graphic novels. The thing
Speaker 1: that made this function for me is that you don't
Speaker 1: have to read. They have really good voice actors that
Speaker 1: are saying all the dialogue. So while it's text heavy,
Speaker 1: there's good voice actors reading the dialogue to you, so
Speaker 1: you feel like you can get away with it. Also,
Speaker 1: the narrator is a part, is a character in the story.
Speaker 1: What's that other game that does that where the narrator
Speaker 1: is telling you like go Yeah, no, not Bashi Stanley parable.
Speaker 1: It's got Stanley parable to Goog going on.
Speaker 3: That's my second guess.
Speaker 1: It's got that going on where it's like the game
Speaker 1: is called Stab Slay the Princess, Stab the Princess, Slay
Speaker 1: the Princess, and the narrator when you start the game,
Speaker 1: this isn't a spoiler like, this is like the game
Speaker 1: concept is like as you start the game, the narrator's like,
Speaker 1: and so you've started on a pathway and you are
Speaker 1: going to go to a cabin and slay the princess.
Speaker 1: So on you go, and then you kind of decide
Speaker 1: for yourself like, Okay, I guess I'll go and slay
Speaker 1: the princess because you've told me to. But you can
Speaker 1: also question it and be like, but why, And then
Speaker 1: the narrator will talk to you and be like, well,
Speaker 1: because that's what you're supposed to do, and you're like,
Speaker 1: well why though, And so you start to ask yourself questions.
Speaker 1: As you go to the cabin, the narrator will tell
Speaker 1: you what to do. They'll say like, there's a knife
Speaker 1: on the table, you're gonna pick that up to slay
Speaker 1: the princess. Again, it's up to you whether or not
Speaker 1: you pick up the knife, don't pick up the knife,
Speaker 1: or ask questions like you know, do I have to
Speaker 1: pick up the knife, and the narrator will say, you
Speaker 1: really should pick up that knife. As you go down
Speaker 1: to the dungeon or like basement of this cabin, you'll
Speaker 1: see the princess and it's pretty boopy. I mean, it
Speaker 1: is stressful at first. She's like chained to the wall
Speaker 1: of the dungeon and she's probably like a little scared
Speaker 1: or like fighting for her life essentially, and like trying
Speaker 1: to convince you not to kill her. Depending on how
Speaker 1: you play, will dramatically alter the series of this game,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to spoil it, but it got
Speaker 1: pretty intense pretty quickly for me, especially on a live stream.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: It is graphic. It is not for children. It is
Speaker 1: a very visceral, vivid, violent game. I think it's very cool.
Speaker 1: I think it did new things that I thought were
Speaker 1: well done for this type of genre, and again for
Speaker 1: a genre I don't typically like. I think it did
Speaker 1: some really interesting stuff visually and thematically, and the way
Speaker 1: that you get to choose your path is very interesting
Speaker 1: in this game. I will also say, I don't think
Speaker 1: Dan will like it because it also asks some existential questions.
Speaker 2: Hit me with one.
Speaker 1: I don't have the memorized, but like there is a
Speaker 1: portion of the questions. You two are new. Stopped the
Speaker 1: game within twelve minutes because existential.
Speaker 2: If we don't know if it was existential, because it
Speaker 2: was stupid.
Speaker 3: If we don't remember what it was like before we
Speaker 3: were born, then what could it be like after we die?
Speaker 2: It's gonna be like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how can we How can we know what nothing
Speaker 3: feels like if we don't remember when.
Speaker 2: It We don't, but we'll figure it out. We'll die.
Speaker 3: What is true darkness?
Speaker 2: Close your eyes?
Speaker 3: No, that's black? What is lack of any color?
Speaker 2: Blind? People?
Speaker 3: Know?
Speaker 2: That's true? I can have no big boy questions?
Speaker 3: What what? What would your grandfather say? What would what
Speaker 3: would your grandfather's first words be to you? You after
Speaker 3: Saint Peter lets you through the pearly gates.
Speaker 2: Act like you're somebody. You have passed this. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: can handle this stuff.
Speaker 1: And to me these little riddles. Three, if you wished
Speaker 1: to cross the.
Speaker 3: Bridge, which of Kamala Harris and Donald Trump's policies do
Speaker 3: you find no.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's keep it real nice and light.
Speaker 3: That one white stain answer that.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, we would say. But anyway, going, oh wait,
Speaker 2: were you here when we did that?
Speaker 3: Was that when you were gone?
Speaker 1: I was not able to defend myself?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think it was. She was gone when we
Speaker 3: talked about how when we outed her as her true
Speaker 3: self insurrectionist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Where were you on January sixth?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had a bunch of ziptis and ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she had her tools. She just kept I need
Speaker 3: to have my tools. I need to go to Washington,
Speaker 3: d C.
Speaker 2: She fell off that wall like a dope.
Speaker 3: I don't know, joke it is funny or not very hard.
Speaker 1: But it impacts my job. I was on the live
Speaker 1: stream for Twitch today going over some of our new
Speaker 1: policies and like decisions as a company, and one of
Speaker 1: the things that I said was clipped and put on Reddit,
Speaker 1: and everybody was like saying whether or not they agreed
Speaker 1: with the policy decision, which I did not write, by
Speaker 1: the way, and someone in the comments said, I don't
Speaker 1: agree with her policies, but her opinions on Nixon are
Speaker 1: pretty good.
Speaker 3: I want to see a text.
Speaker 1: Mary recently opinions.
Speaker 3: Now, do you want to see what text Mary sent me? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know if you could read that. It says
Speaker 3: I'm done.
Speaker 2: Done with Nixon. Reagan is a slut and I love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she texted me that nowhere.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, that's he's gotten a android. That's what?
Speaker 3: Why? Yeah? Why would that? Why is that be a b? So?
Speaker 3: What's gonna do an a? I porn with Mary and Reagan?
Speaker 2: Oh god, Jesus out untouched the face of God. Oh god, Dan.
Speaker 3: You also were playing something I think beautiful Transition. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I really don't try Sometimes.
Speaker 4: I tell it goes to wisdom. Uh yeah, not a
Speaker 4: whole lot more to add other than just that. Like
Speaker 4: I know, I've talked about it before on here, and
Speaker 4: I continued to appreciate and enjoy that game more as
Speaker 4: it kept going on. I think as your your tools
Speaker 4: keep your toolbox keeps expanding.
Speaker 2: Uh there, there's clever stuff you can do.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 2: I think, Mike, it was you that told me the
Speaker 2: trick about was a grub.
Speaker 4: Grub might have told me about pausing flying No, no, no,
Speaker 4: the pausing like instead of like going through the entire
Speaker 4: horizontal crazy scroll list of echoes. It's much better to
Speaker 4: just like pause and go to it once, like you know,
Speaker 4: once you're a couple dungeons in, you just have like
Speaker 4: you know, twenty thirty forty plus things, and it's just
Speaker 4: like instead of scrolling left to right, going to a
Speaker 4: full grid and just picking.
Speaker 2: It as actually like way way better. So that that
Speaker 2: was a nice tip. But yeah, yeah, it's a really
Speaker 2: solid game, mainline Zelda game. It's great.
Speaker 4: It's uh, if I were to rank it, it would
Speaker 4: probably be in the middle to low middle. It's I
Speaker 4: like it better than Spirit Tracks. I like it better
Speaker 4: than Zelda two. I like it better than Skyward's Sword.
Speaker 4: I like it better than Links Awakening. It's probably better
Speaker 4: than The Oracles. So it's uh, yeah, i'd put the
Speaker 4: in that like kind of you know, six to eight maybe,
Speaker 4: uh maybe there's a lot of Zelda games. I don't know,
Speaker 4: it's middle back to maybe like low middle, but they're
Speaker 4: all really good games.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a really solid.
Speaker 4: One, and it's a very unique one, which I'm into
Speaker 4: the idea of the series playing around with things like
Speaker 4: this so cool stuff.
Speaker 2: Really enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that this game kind of continues what
Speaker 3: Tiers the Kingdom, I mean Breath of the While to
Speaker 3: some extent, but especially Tiers of the Kingdom started in
Speaker 3: that the developers are pretty much like starting to really
Speaker 3: let go a bit and let the players break shit,
Speaker 3: which is super cool. I don't think every Zelda going
Speaker 3: forward needs to do that, but I like that this
Speaker 3: is a continuation of that with a different skin and
Speaker 3: with different systems, which is a nice I like that
Speaker 3: they are not just like abandoning it now that they're
Speaker 3: you know, moving on to this relatively smaller Zelda game.
Speaker 3: Still a big Zelda game, but you know, it's not
Speaker 3: open world or a open world era. Yeah, I want
Speaker 3: to keep playing it. I'm still right at the end
Speaker 3: of those first two dungeon. First, I guess technically their
Speaker 3: first dungeon is the the you know, the tutorial one,
Speaker 3: but I'm read at the end of the Garudo Jabu
Speaker 3: Jabu dungeons, so it has just opened up. They literally
Speaker 3: gave me the spiel that you get in Zelda games,
Speaker 3: where it's like you could go here, here, go do
Speaker 3: this stuff. You just here's the overall objective. Oh I really,
Speaker 3: it's not that I part it picked up for me.
Speaker 3: I am very much motivated to. I just have not
Speaker 3: had time to go back yet. I could have played
Speaker 3: on the something about that game. I loaded it up
Speaker 3: on the plane. I was like, I can't this is
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's not that I can't think that
Speaker 3: way on a plane. I need to do something like
Speaker 3: even more mind numbing. I want to, but I also like,
Speaker 3: it's a Zelda game. I don't I don't know like
Speaker 3: Zelda games are, so I need to really sit down
Speaker 3: and just pay attention to a Zela game, even if
Speaker 3: it's not that complicated. It's just a I don't know,
Speaker 3: a ritual thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's one I would.
Speaker 4: I would play, you know, many many hours at a
Speaker 4: time of In fact, I had it that whole flight
Speaker 4: home from Japan. I only played like two or three
Speaker 4: hours on that flight. And then I tend to I
Speaker 4: got into the rhythm of like, Okay, I'm gonna get
Speaker 4: uh to the next dungeon and I'm going to finish
Speaker 4: the Like every dungeon has a thing where it's like, oh,
Speaker 4: you got to find these you know, star bit things
Speaker 4: or whatever to open up the dungeon.
Speaker 2: So like I would have these very whole game all
Speaker 2: the cutoffs.
Speaker 4: There's several dungeons where it's like, yeah, you got to
Speaker 4: go into the still world and you got to find
Speaker 4: like five of these things and then it opens the door.
Speaker 4: So like then I'll see quit and be like oh,
Speaker 4: as soon as I pick it up the next time,
Speaker 4: I'll be right at the dungeon and then I'll play
Speaker 4: until the start the next one.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I broke it up quite a bit. But yeah, overall,
Speaker 2: very very positive on it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it a bunch, keep playing it.
Speaker 1: I haven't played it yet.
Speaker 3: I need to.
Speaker 1: I need to get my hands on, especially for Goady Discussions.
Speaker 2: I think it'll it'll certainly be in my top ten.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Gody discussions, how high is UFO fifty going
Speaker 1: to be up on there?
Speaker 4: I still have a lot to play, but as because
Speaker 4: you know it's it's set chronolog I'm playing them chronologically.
Speaker 2: You can pick them in any order, but like you know,
Speaker 2: it's sept from like, how was UFO forty nine, Uh,
Speaker 2: the forty ninth. I'm not at the forty ninth time.
Speaker 4: I have be like the twenty six, twenty seventh right now,
Speaker 4: played about half of them, and they're getting better.
Speaker 2: Quickly.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of fun ones in the early parts
Speaker 4: that are said, you know, eighty three, eighty four, stuff
Speaker 4: like that. But now, oh Man Bonk told me about
Speaker 4: this one that I skipped ahead two called party House,
Speaker 4: which is such a clever fun thing where it's like
Speaker 4: you're you have a house party and you I don't
Speaker 4: know if you'd call it a rogue I guess it's
Speaker 4: a roguelight roguelike where you're letting in these different types.
Speaker 4: So it's like, okay, if you get three trouble makers
Speaker 4: in the house party, the cops come and then you
Speaker 4: kind of like lose and you have to restart, or actually, no,
Speaker 4: you can blame it on someone and then you can't
Speaker 4: use that person going forward. But you can do stuff
Speaker 4: where it's like, okay, if you invite a hippie in,
Speaker 4: the hippie will nullify one troublemaker, he'll like calm them
Speaker 4: down or whatever. So like you're kind of choosing who
Speaker 4: to bring in, Like you can bring in security, and
Speaker 4: security can choose one person to kick out. So it's, oh, god,
Speaker 4: I got two trouble makers, I'll bring in a security
Speaker 4: kick out one, or you can a dog and the
Speaker 4: dog can sniff and see who's going to come in
Speaker 4: the door next, and so you'll know it's safe to
Speaker 4: let one more person in because it's oh, it's just
Speaker 4: a hippie, or it's an auctioneer, and so like there's
Speaker 4: like auctioneers that will make money for you, and then
Speaker 4: you can hire a comedian that you have to pay
Speaker 4: money to. But if you have a full house, if
Speaker 4: you fill the whole house party, you will get more popularity,
Speaker 4: which popularity is the currency to invite more people to
Speaker 4: your house party. So it's this real just constant push
Speaker 4: and pull of like, Okay, I want to try to
Speaker 4: fill up this house party. I want to earn money
Speaker 4: because you can expand the house to invite more people
Speaker 4: in and to win. Like there's several different scenarios. The
Speaker 4: first one is like if you get four aliens. If
Speaker 4: you get popular enough where four aliens come into your
Speaker 4: house party, you win the first challenge. And so it's
Speaker 4: just this really clever thing I haven't really played anything
Speaker 4: like this of just trying to like manage these resources
Speaker 4: and like popularity so I can invite more people money,
Speaker 4: so I can expand the house, you know, things to
Speaker 4: nullify the Troublemakers and things like that. It's it's definitely
Speaker 4: my favorite one so far.
Speaker 1: But it's game jam, just like a bunch of game
Speaker 1: jam games, right, Like not everything is like super polished,
Speaker 1: but it works.
Speaker 2: That's totally what UFO fifty is.
Speaker 4: And like, I mean, there's fifty fucking games in there,
Speaker 4: and yeah, some of them are just like you're play
Speaker 4: them for like, you know, thirty seconds to be like okay,
Speaker 4: I get it, not really for me, moving on to
Speaker 4: the next one, and then you're run into one like
Speaker 4: the last one. I loaded up with this Rock on Island,
Speaker 4: which is like this caveman tower defense game where you're
Speaker 4: like placing these cavemen, you're upgrading the rocks and spears,
Speaker 4: and dinosaurs are coming in and you're, you know, trying
Speaker 4: to fend them off. You know, you're running around as
Speaker 4: your own dude, throwing bones and stuff, and it's, uh,
Speaker 4: there's just so much variety in this game. And I've
Speaker 4: only played like half of the games, and I've found
Speaker 4: at least seven or eight games that like I want
Speaker 4: to go back to and like beat, Like these are
Speaker 4: full games that you can beat, and they've been getting
Speaker 4: better as the like chronological as it's been getting further
Speaker 4: in the timeline. So it's just it's a really fascinating thing.
Speaker 4: It is, so it feels so accurate to like, you know,
Speaker 4: you could imagine these games coming out in eighty four,
Speaker 4: eighty five, eighty six, things like that, but incorporating ideas
Speaker 4: from modern gaming into this old aesthetic and just a
Speaker 4: fucking awesome project. I really love it, and I know
Speaker 4: I still have so much more to discover, So it's
Speaker 4: it's one of the cooler things this year for sure.
Speaker 1: Oh, very cool. I kind of want to play this too,
Speaker 1: before Godie, and I like, I think my fear is
Speaker 1: that this one looks like it's a big time suck,
Speaker 1: because there's your judgment on whether or not this game
Speaker 1: is good is going to be based on how many
Speaker 1: of the games that you've played within it and enjoyed.
Speaker 2: I would say play them all.
Speaker 4: But if something doesn't grab you once you understand what
Speaker 4: the hook is, drop out, because it doesn't take long
Speaker 4: to see what the hook is. I mean, these are
Speaker 4: meant to be games from the eighties, so like, you know,
Speaker 4: it's not like you're going to be watching thirty minute
Speaker 4: cut scenes before the game start it's like you'll know
Speaker 4: real quick if you're into it. So yeah, it's it's
Speaker 4: definitely definitely a highlight of twenty twenty four for me.
Speaker 3: Definitely for sure. Yeah, the fuck is drill Bit.
Speaker 1: This is just a little one. I haven't played too
Speaker 1: much of it, but I played a drill Core, which
Speaker 1: is a oh gosh, what kind of game is this?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it's strategy and it's rogue light because
Speaker 1: if you fuck up, you die and you have to
Speaker 1: start over.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like life and.
Speaker 2: You maybe existential. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So you're drilling and you're trying to get the I
Speaker 1: don't know rocks that you're drilling, and they go into
Speaker 1: your drill core, and then you can upgrade your drill
Speaker 1: core four different things that help you drill more or
Speaker 1: go deeper. Ultimately, you're just trying to go deeper into
Speaker 1: the I'm not sure if you're on You're going deeper
Speaker 1: into the ground each time. But the deeper you go,
Speaker 1: the more the bugs come for you. And so you
Speaker 1: need to have defense systems set up. Turrets you can
Speaker 1: get like rocket launchers, et cetera, and the require the
Speaker 1: gems that you're drilling. You get three different minor types.
Speaker 1: This one made me think of you, Mike a little bit,
Speaker 1: because there was like a strategy thing that I feel
Speaker 1: like you would enjoy min maxing. The idea here is
Speaker 1: is like you have guys that literally drill, you need
Speaker 1: to tell them what to do. So there's like a
Speaker 1: little bit of a micromanagement where you're like, you drill here.
Speaker 1: Then there's carriers. They go down, they get the little
Speaker 1: gemmis and they bring it up into the core. And
Speaker 1: then there's defensive gunmen, and those guys their only existence
Speaker 1: is to just shoot any bugs that are trying to
Speaker 1: kill the workers. Your workers can die, and so you
Speaker 1: have to be thoughtful of like how many drill people
Speaker 1: do I need, how many carriers do I need that
Speaker 1: are bringing the gems? How many defensive guys do I
Speaker 1: need to make sure nobody dies? And if they do die,
Speaker 1: which they absolutely can, because I had a worm come
Speaker 1: through and just wipe out my whole team once, I
Speaker 1: was like fuck, I had to wait until my machine
Speaker 1: over time made enough gems that I could get a
Speaker 1: new drill guy, and it cost me like two in
Speaker 1: game days, which I think ultimately led to my demise.
Speaker 1: The you have to be conscious of when you want
Speaker 1: people to be drilling, when you need to pull them
Speaker 1: back because it's too dangerous, when to invest in more
Speaker 1: turrets so that you can stop the bugs from killing you,
Speaker 1: or when you invest in like technology that helps you
Speaker 1: drill faster or smarter. I invested in this technology that
Speaker 1: essentially boosted the speed of my little dudes by twenty percent.
Speaker 1: I thought that was really interesting. I also just want
Speaker 1: to say, although I don't think it's relevant, that the
Speaker 1: trailer contains a irl video of miners. So it'll show
Speaker 1: gameplay and then it'll show like a guy in a
Speaker 1: minor costume and he'll be like, it's getting really bad
Speaker 1: out there, man, like we gotta do something about these books,
Speaker 1: and then they'll show the game again. It's irrelevant, but
Speaker 1: I think it's a really funny trailer, and it's why
Speaker 1: I ended up getting the game because it's such a
Speaker 1: stupid trailer. Anyway, it's an interesting concept that you have
Speaker 1: to like balance all these different pieces of the game.
Speaker 1: And I'll also say that for someone like me who
Speaker 1: does not usually gravitate towards these games, similarly to how
Speaker 1: I do not usually gravitate towards uh uh like novel games,
Speaker 1: but I liked Slay the Princess. Drill Corp is simple. Yes,
Speaker 1: Drill Corp is simple for me to pick up. I
Speaker 1: understood it fairly quickly what it was trying to get
Speaker 1: me to do. And while I did die very early twice,
Speaker 1: I ended up figuring it out and getting pretty far
Speaker 1: before I died last time. But I haven't put that
Speaker 1: many hours into it yet. But yeah, it's a cute
Speaker 1: little strategy game, and the trailer was very funny.
Speaker 2: Nice to play.
Speaker 3: That is Drill Corp like a play on Marine Corps.
Speaker 3: But it's not spelled like that.
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Which part core?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, it's like toward the core of the planet.
Speaker 2: Yes, m.
Speaker 1: That's what I think they're joking about, because you you're
Speaker 1: going down. Yeah, it's the little boys that you're sending
Speaker 1: down there there. They die a lot, and I think
Speaker 1: that's kind of funny too, even though it's not good
Speaker 1: for you in the gameplay, but like it's it's crazy
Speaker 1: just how squishy they are. They die so many different
Speaker 1: ways and you could just just make new ones, so
Speaker 1: they're they're a bit flippant about them, kind of like
Speaker 1: with hell divers. You know, every time you lose a man,
Speaker 1: you're like, ah, damn it. Anyway, I'll just make another one.
Speaker 1: Towards the end of the game. I really didn't have
Speaker 1: much of an appreciation for my crew, But that's that's
Speaker 1: drill corep.
Speaker 3: Baby, Mary Kesh loves Reagan, loves making new boys. You
Speaker 3: guys want your emails?
Speaker 1: Sure, I hate Reagan.
Speaker 2: Second fig says that Nixon Trump, then Reagan back.
Speaker 1: I don't like any Jake.
Speaker 3: Keep all this all right as usual. You can ride
Speaker 3: into fire Escape cast at gmail dot com. That is
Speaker 3: Firescape cast at gmail dot com with questions, comments, concerns.
Speaker 3: They're good questions. They may be out of the air,
Speaker 3: like these ones tonight. Although we do have a couple
Speaker 3: of uh responses to previous comments and conversations we've had
Speaker 3: on the show. I'll read these. I'll read this first one.
Speaker 3: This is Joe from New York said, after our fucking
Speaker 3: like twenty five minutes spud gun convo, spread the hair
Speaker 3: sudfiles dot com, spudfiles dot The hair spray or body
Speaker 3: spray you spray into a potato gun is ignited and
Speaker 3: the tiny explosion launches the potato. Dan is afraid of
Speaker 3: guest stoves. I promised that was not planned. I actually
Speaker 3: have not, so I don't think he should buy a
Speaker 3: potato gun. Also, Dan decency laws in Japan forbids showing genitals.
Speaker 3: I don't know what this is referring to. They're blurred
Speaker 3: in every form of media, even pornography.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So yes, the version of No Hard Feelings you downloaded
Speaker 3: in Japan is censored because you downloaded in Japan. Oh,
Speaker 3: Jennifer Lawrence at are Bush, that's just.
Speaker 2: So fucking that's so fun.
Speaker 4: Need to me that me and Bank separately watched and
Speaker 4: downloaded that movie, and we both happened to download it
Speaker 4: in Japan separately. We weren't on the same trip, and
Speaker 4: we both just thought like, oh, it's a pixelated scene.
Speaker 4: She actually watched it with her parents while we were
Speaker 4: in Jersey recently, and I asked her.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, so was it full vagina? And
Speaker 2: so yeah, it's full vagina.
Speaker 3: So yeah, Winnanda was listening and like, on the way
Speaker 3: back from Hawaii, She's like, I saw her Bush, I'm
Speaker 3: not imagining it.
Speaker 4: Wow, yeah, wow, fascinating. He's such pixelate jendles.
Speaker 1: I just think it's funny that you thought that the
Speaker 1: film did that and was like, and this is where
Speaker 1: we pixelate her crotch?
Speaker 2: Why would I think? As far as I knew, I
Speaker 2: just downloaded on Netflix and watched it.
Speaker 1: You know, it is shocking, but like it's such a
Speaker 1: core part of what makes that scene insane is like
Speaker 1: I can't believe they showed the full part, right, I
Speaker 1: believe every cranny.
Speaker 3: Thank you for the pause button.
Speaker 1: Thank you that way you can see the suplex.
Speaker 3: Yeah, good for I gotta make sure I have the Oh,
Speaker 3: this was anonymous Hello Fire Escapees quick story. I thought
Speaker 3: you might like background information. I am a longtime member
Speaker 3: of the b d s M scene, and today in therapy,
Speaker 3: when I was trying to describe the difference between a
Speaker 3: mounch and a play party, the phrase it's like talkie
Speaker 3: versus Dewey just shout out, shout out of my mouth
Speaker 3: before I could even think about it, and I left
Speaker 3: the doctor even more confused. All the best, So what
Speaker 3: do we think, Uh, play party monch has to be
Speaker 3: I hear.
Speaker 2: Play party and I think it's like an orgy thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, play party must maybe like media a larger BDSM
Speaker 3: gag or whatever and munching talk. Keeper's dewey eating ass
Speaker 3: right munch, But that's not talking. Yeah, you're not talking
Speaker 3: versus Dewey. You can't say anything.
Speaker 2: You don't talk.
Speaker 3: You're doing it all right, Okay, Yeah we were kind
Speaker 3: of on this. Well, you guys are a A monch
Speaker 3: is a casual social gathering for people involved are interested
Speaker 3: in kank BDSM, alternative relationship lifestyles or fetishes, so like
Speaker 3: they're just hanging out and correct, it's just you know, okay,
Speaker 3: social gathering for like minded people. And then and then
Speaker 3: a play party is when you know, that's not when
Speaker 3: you get together to talk about games. That's when you
Speaker 3: get together and you fucking play Mario party.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think that makes sense.
Speaker 4: It's just like, oh, we all have a similar interest
Speaker 4: as all to hang out and talk about it, and
Speaker 4: then it's like let's go let's go to town.
Speaker 3: Is the other way, Yeah, let's play hell Divers too tonight.
Speaker 3: No shut up? And getting that pod.
Speaker 4: Podcasting about video games you're in there actually like shooting
Speaker 4: the bugs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the bonus episode versus the record of the episode.
Speaker 2: Sure, okay, this tracks this is I get this.
Speaker 3: I do like that. Our our lingo has crept into
Speaker 3: b DSM culture now, which is awesome, excellent.
Speaker 1: Excell's marinate. I want all of the bds emmers to
Speaker 1: think about Talkie versus Dewey.
Speaker 3: Thank you with email and this next one may read this, Yeah,
Speaker 3: to show yourself.
Speaker 1: We want to know you little kinky guys. You can
Speaker 1: have used a little could have used like a little
Speaker 1: uh pseudonym or given yourself like a little fake.
Speaker 3: They had an email address, but they asked that to
Speaker 3: be anonymous as well.
Speaker 2: That's fair.
Speaker 3: Mary. Read this one from Justin from Marcos, San Marcos, Texas.
Speaker 3: Oh man, that feud is still ongoing. That's our that's
Speaker 3: one of our two listeners from San Marcos.
Speaker 1: Fire Escapees. Here's your challenge. What do the following all
Speaker 1: have in common? It won't be tough to figure it out.
Speaker 1: Final Fantasy seven Silent Hill, Two Brothers, A Tale of
Speaker 1: Two Sons, Epic Mickey Luigi's Mansion, Dark Moon, Mario versus
Speaker 1: Donkey Kong, Lollipop Chainsaw, Until Dawn, Beyond Good and Evil, Braid,
Speaker 1: Shadows of the Damned Persona three Paper Mario thee thousand Year.
Speaker 3: Door I Didn't Know Braid and Shadows the Damned got
Speaker 3: re releases this year.
Speaker 2: That's yeah. I played that Shadow Is the damned that
Speaker 2: game back.
Speaker 3: In the day.
Speaker 1: These are just some, not all, of the games that
Speaker 1: we bought five, ten, or twenty years ago that are
Speaker 1: now being asked to buy again. And these are all
Speaker 1: from this year alone. Oh that is interesting. I didn't
Speaker 1: realize that this year these are all until dawn really ye.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they just did that. Yeah, I understand, Oh wow, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm all right, I'm gonna finish. I understand that a
Speaker 1: lot of this is cynical repackaging. Uh, but I recognize
Speaker 1: that some of his intempt to give development teams something
Speaker 1: to work on between ten pole releases. My question is
Speaker 1: what happens when we run out of past games to mine.
Speaker 1: There's always more game to my baby, and you can
Speaker 1: remake a finite resource. No oil is a finite resource.
Speaker 1: Because there's so many goddamn games out there, you can
Speaker 1: always remake crap. Dare I ask how many Triple A
Speaker 1: development is propped up entirely by remakes and remasters and
Speaker 1: how long that appetite can they be expected to last?
Speaker 1: Cheers just in the original and biggest fire us Cape
Speaker 1: fan from San Marcos Texas.
Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with this. I've never had
Speaker 4: a problem with remakes. In fact, I like, you know,
Speaker 4: they're mentioning this being like cynical repackaging to take advantage
Speaker 4: of mistellgia. I mean, sure, I'm sure that happens where
Speaker 4: it's like, okay, let's just you know, crank this out
Speaker 4: and try to wring some extra bucks out of it.
Speaker 4: But I also see it as kind of a preservation thing,
Speaker 4: and I also see it as a way to make
Speaker 4: these run better on current hardware. I think of stuff
Speaker 4: like Spiro, which I never played back in the day,
Speaker 4: or Slight Cooper or even like Jack Indaxster, Ratch and Client,
Speaker 4: a lot of the early games in those series that
Speaker 4: once those HD collections and stuff came out, that's when
Speaker 4: I discovered them. And if it weren't for those remakes,
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have been able to And then by the
Speaker 4: time I come around to it, it's like HD, it's
Speaker 4: running better. You know, some of these, like this huge
Speaker 4: list of games that he mentions here, like, I don't
Speaker 4: think Final Fantasy is seven Early Counts, because that is
Speaker 4: like a fullmaker that is a remake remake. The rest
Speaker 4: are a lot of you know, re releases things like that.
Speaker 4: But ultimately being able to play all these old games
Speaker 4: on modern consoles, I don't see as a bad thing,
Speaker 4: you know. I know Resony Before has been re released
Speaker 4: and remade on a million things. I don't have a
Speaker 4: problem with it. It's one of the best games of
Speaker 4: all time. If I want to be able to play
Speaker 4: it on my switch, I you know, maybe not on
Speaker 4: my phone. I don't need that. But like modern consoles
Speaker 4: and PCs and stuff, especially as someone who goes back
Speaker 4: to old games, you know, for my job, and I
Speaker 4: like to shine a light on old great games and stuff.
Speaker 4: You know, if I don't have to break out a
Speaker 4: PS two and run it through a retro tank and
Speaker 4: do all this bullshit to stream it and show it
Speaker 4: to people, all the better, you know. Or go to emulation,
Speaker 4: you know. That's that's the thing of the alternative, is
Speaker 4: you go to emulation. So, I don't know, I don't
Speaker 4: see it as an a I've always liked remakes and remasters.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was that period where I think it was,
Speaker 3: like my snarky take ten years ago, like I'd rather
Speaker 3: just see new games rather than retreading old ones. And
Speaker 3: like I think there's a lot of the business aspect
Speaker 3: of designing games that I'm ignoring when I say that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there's a preservation angle, but there's also the angle of
Speaker 3: Like I think good remakes are a chance to edit
Speaker 3: the bad parts of a game out. Like Resuemel four
Speaker 3: remake I think is really good. I still it's apples
Speaker 3: and orange just to say whether I like the original
Speaker 3: of the remake, but I do think like Rezuvil two
Speaker 3: is a good example, Like those are. Those are not
Speaker 3: just transforming it into an over the shoulder third person game.
Speaker 3: I think they're also removing a lot of fat from
Speaker 3: the originals. Like I think, good remakes are a chance
Speaker 3: to do like a director's cut vision of an older game,
Speaker 3: which is cool because I more than anybody. I mean,
Speaker 3: you have me and Mary here. We have been playing
Speaker 3: old Resident Evils for going on seven years now. Those
Speaker 3: are I'll be the first one to say, despite my
Speaker 3: love for them, they're not the easiest games to go
Speaker 3: back to. And I'm not just saying like they're hard
Speaker 3: to access in certain regards. I'm saying they have not
Speaker 3: aged super well.
Speaker 2: Does I still yeah, yeah, yeah, sensibilities and stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love resonable remake the original it's it's one
Speaker 3: of my favorite games of all time. That also is
Speaker 3: you know, that was them editing stuff, and then when
Speaker 3: it came out on PS four, they're like, let's let's
Speaker 3: maybe give an option to not use tank controls. I
Speaker 3: think it's a it's a good way for you to
Speaker 3: interact with incredible games in a modern with modern sensibilities.
Speaker 3: That I think I'm all for that because again, to
Speaker 3: dance points like I want, like my nephews and nieces
Speaker 3: to experience Residu Evil four. If the best way for
Speaker 3: them to do that is to play the most recent remake,
Speaker 3: is it the version I played? No, but they're still
Speaker 3: gonna be like, holy shit, the Chainsaw Sisters, Oh my god, alhigance.
Speaker 3: Like I think that's great. You know. Sure, again, maybe
Speaker 3: they're turning these out in a sense, but like, but you.
Speaker 4: Can do it in really meaningful ways, like I think
Speaker 4: Resident Evil is probably the leader in terms of meaningful remakes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I also look by picking like, you know,
Speaker 3: well the foremost.
Speaker 4: One, well let's go to another one. You know, Zelda
Speaker 4: one of the best series of all time. But like
Speaker 4: they improved upon some of the like Ocarina. You know,
Speaker 4: it's like, okay, everyone hated the water temple. Okay, well
Speaker 4: here's a much better way to do that, or even
Speaker 4: like the three equipment, that type of stuff MAJORA, the
Speaker 4: Bomber's Notebook, that type of stuff like MAJORA three D
Speaker 4: is absolutely the way to play that game. Wind Waker,
Speaker 4: you know, people complained about the sailing taking too long
Speaker 4: and all the tangle map shit at the end.
Speaker 2: Wind Waker, HG. I just played through it again.
Speaker 4: It's fucking awesome still, Like yeah, sure, sometimes they might
Speaker 4: just upres the thing and throw it out there, but
Speaker 4: then sometimes you get a full ass remake like Ari four,
Speaker 4: And then sometimes you get the like, okay, let's say
Speaker 4: some of the best games of all time, like these
Speaker 4: Zelda games, and just oh, here are the things we
Speaker 4: know that fans didn't like about it, and let's improve
Speaker 4: upon that.
Speaker 2: And I will always be in favor of that.
Speaker 1: Two like Justin's credit, I don't think every one of
Speaker 1: them does benefit or you know, ad and so there
Speaker 1: is a bit of an exhaustion from it. For example,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that Brothers A Tale of Two Sons
Speaker 1: is one of these, but did it need it Brothers.
Speaker 1: A Tale of Two Sons is like a pretty good
Speaker 1: experience for the era that it came out. And I'm
Speaker 1: not confident I understand why that was re released.
Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, that's I didn't feel as needed. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 4: there are going to be the big series that get
Speaker 4: it and deserve it, and then they're gonna be the
Speaker 4: one where it's like, oh, yeah, I don't know, do
Speaker 4: we do we need this again right now?
Speaker 3: Well, some of them run like dog shit, and you
Speaker 3: could tell they really were just churned out because people
Speaker 3: knew that you would buy, Oh what's the What's like
Speaker 3: a recent example of a remake remaster that was terrible?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean like there's just not bad reason.
Speaker 4: But like the Silent Hill HG collection, Yea, I know
Speaker 4: it really sucked, and like now Silent Hill two, you know,
Speaker 4: did it right? It seems u But then I think,
Speaker 4: you know, if people get very cynical about things like
Speaker 4: the Naughty Dog stuff, like with Last of Us getting
Speaker 4: the remakes and part ones and all that stuff, and
Speaker 4: it's like, oh man, that gime just came out a
Speaker 4: few years ago, you know, is this really you know,
Speaker 4: like I think people look a little side eyed at those,
Speaker 4: especially when they want new stuff from a studio like
Speaker 4: Naughty Dog.
Speaker 2: But it's not like it's this or that.
Speaker 4: It's not like they're making a remake of a Last
Speaker 4: of Us game in lieu of making a new IP
Speaker 4: or something like. They're going to be making that shit
Speaker 4: at the same time too, So yeah, I don't see
Speaker 4: the problem. Some are going to be needed and really
Speaker 4: well done. Some are going to be They're going to
Speaker 4: run like shit and aren't going to be needed. But
Speaker 4: you know, there's good and bad with everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the quality of remakes and remasters is almost as
Speaker 3: wide of a gamut as the quality and brand new games.
Speaker 3: Like you can get really good new remakes, you can
Speaker 3: get really easy ports, and you know, some will do
Speaker 3: their job, like Skyrim will keep releasing on shit and
Speaker 3: I'll probably keep playing it. Others, like I said, Resumel
Speaker 3: two remake will now become one my all time favorite games.
Speaker 3: But like, yeah, I'm done being like by default cynical
Speaker 3: about them. But that's not to say I'm not going
Speaker 3: to criticize the ones that really do feel like cashcraps,
Speaker 3: because those absolutely exist.
Speaker 4: Well, there are things like you know, the Mario three
Speaker 4: D All Stars collection, which those are three of my
Speaker 4: favorite games of all time, and I'm a little disappointed
Speaker 4: in that, like nothing, it all just kind of feels
Speaker 4: like just ports of these games. Nothing got added or
Speaker 4: improved necessarily.
Speaker 1: I think that's the real gut from this is that
Speaker 1: like that feels remastered to me, where it's just kind
Speaker 1: of a whatever addition, but they've put a new name
Speaker 1: on it when they could have maybe remastered one of
Speaker 1: your favorites and actually plussed it up.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I've preferred.
Speaker 4: Would I have preferred, like Mario sixty four Sunshining Galaxy
Speaker 4: to get like, you know, sixty nine and everything's like,
Speaker 4: it's just it looks great, it runs great at sixty
Speaker 4: praems a second, of course, of course I would prefer that.
Speaker 4: But the fact that I can play all those games
Speaker 4: on my switch is not a negative to me, you know.
Speaker 4: But it's also not going to like impress me the
Speaker 4: way that like an RI four or something, would you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's I don't think it's a
Speaker 3: one size fits all thing. But I don't think they're
Speaker 3: ever going to run out of games to remake and
Speaker 3: remasters out there. Here, really quick question I'm gonna I
Speaker 3: don't even you don't even need an explanation, but like,
Speaker 3: so far from the PS five series X generation, we're
Speaker 3: pandemic and beyond sure, what is the game? And this
Speaker 3: is impossible, it's kind of a loaded question, but what
Speaker 3: is the game you want to see? What's the first
Speaker 3: game you want to be remade from this generation in
Speaker 3: the future?
Speaker 2: Mary, do you have one? I got to think about
Speaker 2: that a.
Speaker 1: Game made this generation that I'm looking forward to being
Speaker 1: remade for like as.
Speaker 3: To put the next shen to play, Like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: remake what's a game that was really good? But you
Speaker 3: think it could be edited and like maybe next generation
Speaker 3: will get it really right with like a director's cut version.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at my top tens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at my Steam library real quick. I mean,
Speaker 1: the thing is is like I want to be careful
Speaker 1: that I'm not just like making this a graphics conversation
Speaker 1: because I think you can.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, not that I'm specific, I'm saying that,
Speaker 3: you know, like I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't want this to be a graphics conversation. When
Speaker 1: I think about quality of.
Speaker 3: Life, It's like, what is what is the game this
Speaker 3: generation that you were like, oh god, it's so close
Speaker 3: to being a great game, but it's like it's not
Speaker 3: quite there. They need this. This was annoying. This was annoying.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I just pulled up my top ten games at twenty
Speaker 4: twenty two and I put Sonic Frontiers above Gotta wear Ragnarok,
Speaker 4: and that is such a troll.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's incredible.
Speaker 3: I got got where Ragnarok would be one of them.
Speaker 3: All they have to do is cut thirty hours from it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and eight characters.
Speaker 2: No, man, what would it be. I'm looking here.
Speaker 1: Mass as well, which is such a.
Speaker 2: Here's the Kingdom, Breadth, the Wild Breath, the Wilds before that,
Speaker 2: but like.
Speaker 3: I will one thousand by both of those on these
Speaker 3: switch three or whatever the.
Speaker 4: Fu Yeah, give sixty frames a second, here's the Kingdom,
Speaker 4: Like that'd be awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm thinking back in the reviews I did where
Speaker 3: I was like, everything's awesome, but there's this one little
Speaker 3: thing that doesn't attract from the whole thing. But sure,
Speaker 3: like I don't know, Death Stranding director's cut kind.
Speaker 2: Of don't you start got me into it?
Speaker 3: Although that that was honestly, that was less because of
Speaker 3: the director's cut ideas.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of like scary games that I wonder if,
Speaker 1: like with a couple of modern touches, if you could
Speaker 1: really fuck people up. Amnesia is such a scary game,
Speaker 1: and I wonder if some modern dated these days updates,
Speaker 1: you could probably really scare the shit out of these kids.
Speaker 2: Let me try that.
Speaker 1: They did, and you know what's interesting, Okay, it's interesting
Speaker 1: you bring that up, Dan. They did update it, but
Speaker 1: it's not the same game. They made new versions, and
Speaker 1: a lot of the times the game having tough graphics
Speaker 1: helped with its scariness because you can't really see what
Speaker 1: it is like it's so jarring and fucked up in
Speaker 1: the graphics are just low enough quality you can't fully
Speaker 1: see it, and that is disturbing. So there is an
Speaker 1: element I think of the classic old gameplay that serves
Speaker 1: the scariness well. But I will say, like the idea
Speaker 1: of having like really good resolution, really up to date
Speaker 1: graphics and still not being able to see what the
Speaker 1: thing is that's chasing you and ultimately killing you, I
Speaker 1: still think they could. They could figure it out well.
Speaker 4: And that's the argument with stuff like when they made
Speaker 4: the remaster of Shadow of the Classes is that it
Speaker 4: was kind of cleaned up quite a bit, Like the
Speaker 4: graphics look cleaner, but like there was an aspect to
Speaker 4: the PS two quality, like the blurring and things like
Speaker 4: that kind of added like almost a dreamlike quality to
Speaker 4: that game, and by cleaning it, uh, maybe it lose
Speaker 4: a little bit there.
Speaker 1: I lose a little bit of the atmosphere, a little
Speaker 1: bit of the the style at the time. And a
Speaker 1: lot of people would always say that too. Is because
Speaker 1: when you're making games for an era, you're making very
Speaker 1: intentional decisions with every shape and choice, every polygon, like
Speaker 1: it had a very distinct purpose back then, and now
Speaker 1: you can just be like, we'll just make it look
Speaker 1: like a Yeah, make it look like a boy. And
Speaker 1: it's like, what do you've changed the entire director's intent.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not all about realism. Like that's something I
Speaker 4: think about a lot with Snake Eater. You know, I
Speaker 4: played Delta at the preview event, I've seen the trailers,
Speaker 4: and I'm watching Kla play through the HD version of
Speaker 4: the original. But the HD version is still the same
Speaker 4: graphic style, and I think that's an example of them
Speaker 4: doing it pretty right, because like Snake looks like Snake
Speaker 4: Vulgan still looks like a like a comic book character. Like,
Speaker 4: but yeah, some of the early trailers and stuff is like, oh,
Speaker 4: I hope they don't go too far into photo realism here,
Speaker 4: because like it did have a bit of a style
Speaker 4: to look, even if it was largely realistic style. You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I also think it's interesting that you can go
Speaker 1: you can do the opposite, right, Like you can make
Speaker 1: a modern game that looks like a classic game. UFO
Speaker 1: fifty seems like it is it fifty UFO or UFO fifty.
Speaker 1: It seems like that's doing it. I'll also say that
Speaker 1: crow Country is very clearly inspired by Silent Hill and
Speaker 1: is made in the vein of Silent Hill. Like it
Speaker 1: looks like a classic arcade game. It's not meant to
Speaker 1: be remastered. It shouldn't look any different. It's intentional for
Speaker 1: it to look the way it does, and it's fucking
Speaker 1: killing it. So a lot of the times I feel
Speaker 1: really motivated to just say, like, if the intentionality is there,
Speaker 1: leave it alone, because like that is the way it's
Speaker 1: meant to be, and it's it's a place in time,
Speaker 1: you know. I think a lot of the times, like
Speaker 1: they really are just meant to be the way they are,
Speaker 1: and you just we have those sweet baby games alone.
Speaker 3: I think I've got one. I think hear it one
Speaker 3: that it's I think it's genuinely one of the best
Speaker 3: games ever designed is Outer Wilds. But like I could
Speaker 3: see some sort of update to the controls for the
Speaker 3: jet pack and the spaceship or like, I didn't mind.
Speaker 2: I kind of like the way, but I.
Speaker 1: Don't think it's universal, Like my parents could ever play that,
Speaker 1: Like it's very difficult to like process. I also think
Speaker 1: that it does. I think it's a great example. I
Speaker 1: think my problem with Outer Wilds is like it doesn't
Speaker 1: explain enough to the player to the point where you
Speaker 1: can get wildly lost and go on two hour tangents,
Speaker 1: which are fun because you're exploring space, but if you
Speaker 1: if you lose the narrative too far down that path,
Speaker 1: you can just disappear. I think that is a good contender. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, I could absolutely see that one being like
Speaker 1: something that would blow the young children's minds, the kids
Speaker 1: that are born in twenty twenty twenty and are now
Speaker 1: four years old.
Speaker 3: All right, well, thank you. Justin the original and biggest
Speaker 3: Firescape fan from San Marcos, Texas. All right, we got
Speaker 3: one more, Dan, Do you want to read this one?
Speaker 3: From Rachel?
Speaker 4: Yes hi II. I live in Michigan, where we now
Speaker 4: have a hands free driving law. Finally, what while sending
Speaker 4: a text through Siri, I copy, I got caught behind
Speaker 4: someone going so slow. I started loudly complaining about it,
Speaker 4: not fully realizing I'm still using Siria to send a message.
Speaker 4: So half the message was about chicken wings, followed by
Speaker 4: a slew of expletives.
Speaker 2: He had a good laugh about it.
Speaker 4: If you can get any actor, video game character or
Speaker 4: human you know to be a Siri voice, who would
Speaker 4: you pick me? It would be the Turtle Pope or
Speaker 4: Blade from Elden Ring for me, Papavenny from Next Lander
Speaker 4: would be cool as hell. Two excellent, Okay, well, thank
Speaker 4: you so much. Rachel also says your soul is cat
Speaker 4: piss has made its way into my lexicon.
Speaker 2: That sounds like a marry. I don't remember the context,
Speaker 2: but that sounds.
Speaker 3: Like hastat that about you? Dan?
Speaker 2: What I want to g yep? The mm hmmm, Mike Manatti, you.
Speaker 3: Should have turned left back there, Dan, you missed the
Speaker 3: You missed the turn.
Speaker 1: Take a U turn Dan, This isn't Disney.
Speaker 3: This is not Disneyland. Dan.
Speaker 1: It just always directs you to Disney, even when you
Speaker 1: just pick.
Speaker 2: It, will only take it to Epcot Center.
Speaker 3: Let has been misunderstood.
Speaker 1: Turn left.
Speaker 2: This costly singing bullshit from Frozen or whatever.
Speaker 3: Umm will arrive at Agrabad approximately thirty four minutes.
Speaker 1: Brutal impression.
Speaker 3: God, there are the heartless and then there are the
Speaker 3: heartless at Hollo Bastion. They're very different.
Speaker 1: It's just correct.
Speaker 2: You're talking and Jeff crub.
Speaker 3: So, uh, Mike Manatti does a thing where he is,
Speaker 3: he'll talk about Disney, He'll talk about Disney. Okay, I'll
Speaker 3: be the first one to say he'll talk about Disney
Speaker 3: a lot.
Speaker 4: And then the first.
Speaker 1: But you also have to go turn right.
Speaker 3: So I mean I'll say it. I'll say it. I
Speaker 3: beat Dan an astrobot. Uh speed runs all the time.
Speaker 2: Hit him with the jet backler. Hit him with the
Speaker 2: jet backler series.
Speaker 3: Hey, asshole, you forgot to turn right. Mario's back that way.
Speaker 2: He sucks.
Speaker 3: Ah. Man, if it's not hockey, I don't know, that's
Speaker 3: not him. Wait you got you guys? Ever been to know?
Speaker 3: Have you? Guys? Ever been to Jersey. I think I've
Speaker 3: extended my I've uh, I've exhausted rather my uh my impersonations.
Speaker 3: Unless you give me someone else I want to try.
Speaker 1: That's so impressive. I would never have the guts to
Speaker 1: do that. I think it's.
Speaker 3: Peter Brown. Yeah, oh, man, Pete's tough. Rob Henlery, I
Speaker 3: don't know, I'll do Pete. Okay, the retro video game
Speaker 3: stores back there, man, Like, here's the thing about CCR TVs.
Speaker 2: You gotta like c's clear Water TV.
Speaker 3: What. No, I don't know, Just like, I promise I'm
Speaker 3: going somewhere with I'm going somewhere with this. I promise
Speaker 3: you got already consider that the cathode rays in the
Speaker 3: eighty seven models are not the same. And you gotta like, no, no, Dan,
Speaker 3: go away. I'm trying to tell Rob.
Speaker 1: This thing stop stop in ten feet?
Speaker 3: Yeah Rob, Oh, I could do Rob.
Speaker 1: Rob's a lot of us can do Rob because he
Speaker 1: has this iconic thing.
Speaker 3: Very animated. And yeah, I wouldn't even I don't think
Speaker 3: it would play well.
Speaker 2: Game spot people are getting a shoe.
Speaker 3: Not okay, give me someone else.
Speaker 2: Hmmm, Richard Nixon, you have.
Speaker 3: Just passed the waffle house.
Speaker 2: I waffle seems like the best word to say is
Speaker 2: Richard Nixon.
Speaker 3: I hope I will not have any of that. You'll
Speaker 3: go to waffle house. I will reluctantly remit. The presidency
Speaker 3: of this country had.
Speaker 4: To shake your jewels as hard as possible. It's tough
Speaker 4: when I don't really ja jelly man he was.
Speaker 1: That would be a great uh. I would pick that one.
Speaker 1: I think it'd be pretty fun to have Nixon tell
Speaker 1: me how to get to the nearest gas station. I
Speaker 1: think that's pretty fun.
Speaker 4: They used to have that on like early AOL, where
Speaker 4: it's like you could pick celebrity voice packs for your
Speaker 4: like because I had Letterman and he'd be like, hey, Skippy,
Speaker 4: you've got mail. You know, so like all the different
Speaker 4: like you know, friends logging in or you've got mail,
Speaker 4: would be Oh, here's rageous, here's Letterman, here's whatever.
Speaker 2: Like that was fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, but I guess short answer though, I would
Speaker 3: like to have an obvious ones like James Earl Jones.
Speaker 1: Bob from Bob's Burgers would be so nice because I
Speaker 1: actually I find it so cathartic just the way he
Speaker 1: talks and when he's dis pointed. He always goes uh,
Speaker 1: and so like every time I missed the turn, he'd
Speaker 1: just be like, uh, that's the wrong turn, and I'd
Speaker 1: be like, Oh, that's not so bad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jamaine Clement would be good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Stone Cold, Steve Auston, mhm. Brett Hart. I think
Speaker 2: I went Brett Hart. A lot of wrestlers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's there's options. I would like Vinnie and he's.
Speaker 1: He is a calming voice. Yes, Vinny would do a
Speaker 1: great job as a Sirie car uh navigation system.
Speaker 4: You guys ever had Vinnie as a manager, Vinnie like,
Speaker 4: you know, great friend, obviously, great broadcast personality, but man
Speaker 4: I had him as a manager, He's maybe the best
Speaker 4: manager I ever had, like in any job. Like he's
Speaker 4: just he's just a he's just a person that cares
Speaker 4: about people, and he's just gonna put Vinnie over here.
Speaker 1: He's he knew it. I knew it. I always assume that,
Speaker 1: And my brief times working with him, I was just like,
Speaker 1: this just seems like a person who really cares about
Speaker 1: the company and the people that he's working with and
Speaker 1: their lives and why it matters, and seems like the
Speaker 1: kind of person when you're like I'm late because there's
Speaker 1: like a rainstorm. His immediate reaction to be like, are
Speaker 1: you okay? Do you need something? Can I help you?
Speaker 1: Like that's not like the kind of guy that's like,
Speaker 1: well you're five minutes late.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and also very patient when you're just you know,
Speaker 4: doing your bullshit or whatever, like you know, he's yeah, No,
Speaker 4: I just don't put Vine over.
Speaker 2: He's He's the best.
Speaker 1: Damn it. Make that man a manager again. Somebody hire that.
Speaker 2: He's doing it right now, but it doesn't benefit me.
Speaker 2: Get him in charge of twitch.
Speaker 3: I want him as a manager any twitch twitch. All right, well,
Speaker 3: thank you Rachel, appreciate it. And as I mentioned before,
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and or just wliders as we come up there
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Speaker 4: recording month. Heads up November sixteenth. It will be in
Speaker 4: the evening we will start. I believe the thing we
Speaker 4: do now is it will be on the fire Escape
Speaker 4: Cast YouTube after the fact. So if you want to
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Speaker 4: that's what we're doing.
Speaker 3: We have one, but it was mainly a placeholder. But
Speaker 3: I guess we'll figure that out.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, yes, follow both, no matter what, follow Dan
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Speaker 2: If that's what it is, we'll see. We'll figure out
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Speaker 2: So that is coming November sixteenth. Live. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Dan and I the other night both predicted our We
Speaker 3: both had a prediction for the winner of Game of
Speaker 3: the Year this year. I think we yeah, although one
Speaker 3: other one came up Dan that was not discussed that
Speaker 3: I kind of maybe this is not a good came
Speaker 3: up and was not discussed. Right, they came up. Afterward,
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, we didn't, Dan, and I didn't
Speaker 3: mention that, which is probably a bad sign. However, then
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, right, that was a huge game this
Speaker 3: year that we talked a lot about it, Just like
Speaker 3: I think maybe sort of live servicey co op multiplayer.
Speaker 2: Keep talking.
Speaker 3: I don't want to roll verses. I want to save it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Game of the Year, it's good. It's not my top ten.
Speaker 3: The fuck it's not your top ten.
Speaker 4: No, I literally, I just I'm looking at it right now.
Speaker 4: I have my top ten loose list here. It's on
Speaker 4: the It's no, it's I fucking it was great, but
Speaker 4: it was probably fourteen about It'd probably like fourteen to
Speaker 4: fifteen for me.
Speaker 3: Uh. That's where astrobot is for me.
Speaker 1: We are already starting our politicking and we will discuss
Speaker 1: more of us win the sixteenth. Nobody knows. Shut the
Speaker 1: fuck up?
Speaker 3: Ok, Mary, what do you have going on outside of
Speaker 3: fire Scape, twitch Ship?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 3: Well people might Yes, I know. I'm not doing this
Speaker 3: for me. I don't give every week, Mike.
Speaker 1: Why do you always ask me this question?
Speaker 3: You know what I when I'm up to make do?
Speaker 3: What have the fuck you want? Give ship? Did you
Speaker 3: even answer it? I don't care. Dan, What do you
Speaker 3: have going on?
Speaker 2: Giant bomb dot com?
Speaker 4: Follow the BombCast, boy Smail, Dump Truck, all those Giant
Speaker 4: Bomb shows. I'm actually home until like Thanksgiving, so I
Speaker 4: should be able to get some personal streams in so
Speaker 4: follow Dan record on Twitch and Instagram. Uh yeah, I'll
Speaker 4: actually take it easy and just stay in Minnesota for
Speaker 4: a bit.
Speaker 3: So looking forward to that nice Yeah, looking forward to
Speaker 3: the weather just got cold here in New York, and
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's going to turn again. So
Speaker 3: I'm enjoining the cozy weather Cozy indoors already season baby.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much everybody for joining us. I just
Speaker 3: noticed that there I can see right into someone's bathroom
Speaker 3: back here.
Speaker 2: Anything cool going on in there?
Speaker 3: He's just peeing, standing and ping. It's way far away,
Speaker 3: but I never noticed that's a bathroom that I could
Speaker 3: see into.
Speaker 2: It's a full like. You're not seeing like a wiener
Speaker 2: right now, are you?
Speaker 3: Thinks?
Speaker 2: So I'll say you should close the blinds. If there's
Speaker 2: visible wiener.
Speaker 3: I'll send you a video. But uh, episode ninety two,
Speaker 3: We'll we'll see you again in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: Get ready, I think is that the last episode before
Speaker 3: I give me the What are they.
Speaker 1: Going to remake it so you can actually see the
Speaker 1: dong in the window?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Four k dong?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, interesting number fourth? Episode ninety three is the
Speaker 3: next episode number fourth and then second on that dong?
Speaker 3: Next episode much is that dong in the window?
Speaker 2: Ray tracing on that dong.
Speaker 3: He's really enjoying it too.
Speaker 1: It seems like DLNG is there V sync on that
Speaker 1: dong V s.
Speaker 3: Antil the whole package?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the whole package, all right, DLC. And it's balls.
Speaker 3: Motion away from the he's yawning late here twelve thirty,
Speaker 3: he's still a long still going. Yeah, he's still going.
Speaker 3: You want the video version, you can see me watching
Speaker 3: someone pee.
Speaker 2: Yeah, check out the paper.
Speaker 3: On dude, finish up. I'm obsessed.
Speaker 2: We can't end the podcast until he's done.
Speaker 3: Pin. He's so far like this is really far away.
Speaker 3: It's just it's a window I see all the time.
Speaker 3: I just never realized the bathroom.
Speaker 1: You have to be careful. At some point he's no
Speaker 1: longer peeing and he's just uh pulling it.
Speaker 2: Does this penis have any chromatic aberration?
Speaker 3: So I cannot even stress how like perfectly framed it
Speaker 3: is where everything it's his waist down is covered.
Speaker 2: So it's like a good, Okay, well then that's that's
Speaker 2: all decent PG rated. Oh he's like jumping.
Speaker 1: What's the aspect ratio?
Speaker 2: The letterbox done?
Speaker 1: Letter box done, it's funny.
Speaker 3: If he looks up.
Speaker 2: No, you're getting arrested if he looks up.
Speaker 3: Joke, I didn't take.
Speaker 1: He it's a video version we all saw.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm so sorry. I think I see what's happening that.
Speaker 3: I think he's at a standing desk.
Speaker 2: That's very Wait does he have a shirt on?
Speaker 3: I can't. Oh, it's fun.
Speaker 1: What does he do for a living?
Speaker 3: I don't know if his dick is out? Oh, he's
Speaker 3: at a standing desk.
Speaker 2: It's like when Butter's peas and it's just like shirt on,
Speaker 2: pants down.
Speaker 3: That wind. He's like a floor below me.
Speaker 1: What a twist produced by n Light Shamalan for this
Speaker 1: to actually be a stand shaman?
Speaker 2: Don Shaman? Don Who's say?
Speaker 3: Yep, No, he's as standing desk. Wow, he got me good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just working.
Speaker 3: Probably he's probably playing Hell Divers too. Good game, not
Speaker 3: as though it was episode ninety two.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do I'm gonna do some big crazy thing
Speaker 4: where I'm trying to put as to number one.
Speaker 2: I know my spots. I know it's not for you,
Speaker 2: reasonable man.
Speaker 3: Why would I think to you two are gonna do
Speaker 3: some crazy thing when you try to force pick him
Speaker 3: and four into number one.
Speaker 4: At the end of we were just trying to give
Speaker 4: it its flowers, all right, We were being reasonable.
Speaker 3: It wasn't our number two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crapy with how that turned out.
Speaker 3: You tried to push it.
Speaker 2: Oh darn, Zelda Game got our Game of the Year.
Speaker 3: We will be back on November fourth, at which point
Speaker 3: we would be prepping for our Game of the Year
Speaker 3: on November sixteenth, which will go up November eighteenth as
Speaker 3: the next episode, breakout episode. Thang everybody for joining. We'll
Speaker 3: talk to you later. Until then, have been a couple
Speaker 3: of weeks.