WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.000 --> 00:00:04.879 You're listening to bill Handle on demand from KFI AM 2 00:00:04.919 --> 00:00:05.759 six forty. 3 00:00:07.160 --> 00:00:10.880 And this is KFI AM six forty bill Handle here 4 00:00:11.080 --> 00:00:15.679 on a Monday morning, September ninth. Hopefully this is the 5 00:00:15.800 --> 00:00:18.920 last day of this insane heat wave as Amy has 6 00:00:18.960 --> 00:00:23.559 been reporting. Tomorrow it starts cooling down and then I 7 00:00:23.600 --> 00:00:28.440 think by Wednesday we're actually going to get to reasonably 8 00:00:28.519 --> 00:00:32.159 normal temperatures here in the Southland one hundred and eighteen 9 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:33.799 degrees in Woodland Hills. 10 00:00:33.840 --> 00:00:36.920 The last couple of days, my daughter. I call my 11 00:00:37.000 --> 00:00:39.359 daughter up and she's so parched it's unbelievable. 12 00:00:39.799 --> 00:00:42.280 And she was bitching and moaning about the air conditioning, 13 00:00:42.640 --> 00:00:45.640 how expensive it is, what her utility bill is like. 14 00:00:45.840 --> 00:00:50.000 Full Blast twenty four to seven. Also, tomorrow night is 15 00:00:50.320 --> 00:00:52.759 going to be the big one. It's going to be 16 00:00:52.799 --> 00:00:56.039 the most anticipated debate in a very very long time. 17 00:00:57.039 --> 00:00:59.079 This is going to be interesting stuff. 18 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:03.679 One of the most difficult parts that Kamala Harris or 19 00:01:03.799 --> 00:01:07.560 any candidate debating Donald Trump has to figure out is 20 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:12.760 which way is he going? She has to prepare two 21 00:01:13.280 --> 00:01:17.920 different debates effectively. And one of the reasons is I 22 00:01:17.959 --> 00:01:20.519 don't even think Donald Trump knows which way he's going. 23 00:01:20.599 --> 00:01:22.560 That's what's going to make it so interesting, whether he's 24 00:01:22.599 --> 00:01:26.519 going to do personal attacks for the most part, policy accusations, 25 00:01:26.560 --> 00:01:27.680 how far he's going to go in that. 26 00:01:28.159 --> 00:01:29.519 And as a matter of fact, let me take it 27 00:01:29.560 --> 00:01:31.040 from there, because what. 28 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:34.239 You're going to hear not only from former President Trump 29 00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:38.200 tomorrow night, but also from Republicans that are running all 30 00:01:38.319 --> 00:01:43.400 over the country is all the problems with the United States, 31 00:01:43.640 --> 00:01:48.719 and particularly with California, are the fault of the Democrats. 32 00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:57.560 Kamala Harris being a California Democrat having effectively destroyed California. 33 00:01:58.200 --> 00:02:00.280 And by the way, it's hard not to argue that 34 00:02:00.400 --> 00:02:02.879 to California in many ways has gone into the toilet. 35 00:02:02.920 --> 00:02:06.120 Look at our housing, look at our homelessness, look at 36 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:06.959 the cost. 37 00:02:06.719 --> 00:02:07.439 Of living here. 38 00:02:07.519 --> 00:02:10.199 I mean, it's all gone very very south. Look at 39 00:02:10.759 --> 00:02:16.960 our political our political view in terms of liberalism. So 40 00:02:17.400 --> 00:02:22.520 she is being portrayed as a homegrown radical, even a communist. 41 00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:24.840 Destroyed San Francisco as. 42 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:28.599 The DA destroy the entire state, as an attorney general, 43 00:02:29.039 --> 00:02:32.520 will turn the whole nation into a hellhole like California, 44 00:02:33.240 --> 00:02:37.080 and the Democrats are being blamed for it. And here 45 00:02:37.199 --> 00:02:39.800 is the problem. And if you happen to be a Democrat. 46 00:02:40.039 --> 00:02:43.680 Refute this one. Okay, look at the problems we have 47 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:51.199 in this state. Who controls the state, who has a 48 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:55.639 super majority of both sides of the legislature, the Senate 49 00:02:55.759 --> 00:02:59.039 and the Assembly, can do virtually anything they want, and 50 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:05.599 a liberal Although you know, we talked last week about 51 00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:09.240 the new bill that would give undocumented the ability to 52 00:03:09.400 --> 00:03:12.919 work in the UC system like anybody else. Remember we 53 00:03:12.960 --> 00:03:15.080 talked about that and that was fairly controversial. I said 54 00:03:15.080 --> 00:03:20.800 it's going to pass Newsom vetoed it straight out, vetoed it. 55 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:26.840 There was some sense of reality there somewhere in his 56 00:03:27.039 --> 00:03:30.599 mind at that point. But the Democrats are being blamed. 57 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:33.639 It's far far more difficult than what is going on. 58 00:03:33.719 --> 00:03:36.319 Of course, it's more nuanced than that, naturally it is. 59 00:03:37.080 --> 00:03:40.159 But I do believe that Kamala Harris, not only in 60 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:44.719 the debate tomorrow night, but in the campaign because while 61 00:03:44.759 --> 00:03:48.080 I think a lot of the allegations are crazy, right, 62 00:03:48.159 --> 00:03:51.000 she's an anti Semi, she's married to a Jew. She 63 00:03:51.159 --> 00:03:54.520 will destroy Israel single handedly, talks. 64 00:03:54.199 --> 00:03:56.120 To the Jewish community. 65 00:03:57.120 --> 00:04:00.919 She is a communist that will add solowly destroy the 66 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:03.240 economy of the country. Yeah, you know, I mean I 67 00:04:03.280 --> 00:04:04.879 don't know how much that makes sense, but I'll tell 68 00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:09.599 you what does make sense. She is a Democrat and 69 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:12.639 has been in the democratic hierarchy in the state for 70 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:20.319 many years, both as attorney general, as senator, as district attorney. 71 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:25.639 And look at California, look at the mess that it's 72 00:04:25.639 --> 00:04:29.399 in and who controls the state. By the way, every 73 00:04:29.399 --> 00:04:33.199 word of that is true. Our homelessness problem is worse 74 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:37.480 than any other state. Look at what Neil and Amy 75 00:04:37.519 --> 00:04:39.959 are going to do to help the homeless situation, you know, 76 00:04:40.040 --> 00:04:42.120 the uh And we'll be talking about that a lot. 77 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:47.879 They're doing an event where they're jumping off the Universal Hilton. 78 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:49.759 It's going to be fascinating stuff. And you too. 79 00:04:49.759 --> 00:04:51.439 If you want to jump off with them, you can 80 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:53.040 pay one thousand dollars. 81 00:04:52.639 --> 00:04:54.560 And you're repelling Bill. 82 00:04:55.399 --> 00:04:57.000 Okay, repelling jumping there. 83 00:04:59.040 --> 00:05:02.439 It's all the same to me, and you'll be hearing 84 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:05.319 a lot more about that later on. But the point 85 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:08.240 is it's all about homelessness, which is a huge problem, 86 00:05:09.199 --> 00:05:13.199 and the issue of insane property prices. That's not the 87 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:16.160 case in other parts of the country. And the Democrats 88 00:05:16.199 --> 00:05:18.519 are in charge. And here's what happens when things go 89 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:21.600 to hell. In a handbasket, who gets blained, who's ever 90 00:05:21.639 --> 00:05:22.160 in charge? 91 00:05:22.759 --> 00:05:26.279 Guaranteed? And that is a real problem that's going to 92 00:05:26.319 --> 00:05:26.639 have to. 93 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:28.959 Be overcome big time. I think you're going to be 94 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:32.560 hearing a lot about that tomorrow night. How it's a 95 00:05:32.639 --> 00:05:35.360 democratic world that's destroying the United. 96 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:36.040 States and got a way. 97 00:05:36.079 --> 00:05:38.519 You look at California and you go, there's the example, 98 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:40.519 and it's kind of hard to argue that it's not. 99 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:44.560 California is not the same place. It was not at all. 100 00:05:45.279 --> 00:05:47.399 I mean in my twenties when I started, when I 101 00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:50.639 bought my first house, I could afford it and I 102 00:05:50.839 --> 00:05:54.399 was not making a ton of money. Try doing that today. 103 00:05:56.040 --> 00:05:59.720 All right, Now, let's talk about something that is a 104 00:05:59.720 --> 00:06:03.079 little closer to home, and that is your next door 105 00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:07.399 neighbor's dog eating you, or eating one of your kids, 106 00:06:07.600 --> 00:06:12.160 or munching your dog and having a dog for snacks, 107 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:18.279 depending on how big it is. There is not a registry, 108 00:06:18.600 --> 00:06:22.839 there is no database. There is no dangerous dog database. 109 00:06:22.879 --> 00:06:25.279 And you would think, wait a minute, don't you want 110 00:06:25.319 --> 00:06:28.240 to know? And by the way, it's easy to determine 111 00:06:28.279 --> 00:06:32.279 what a dangerous dog is. You report it to animal control. 112 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:35.759 They come out and they'll investigate or not. And then 113 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:38.279 there are laws. If your dog has been deemed a 114 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:41.480 dangerous dog, I mean, there is such a thing, and 115 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:42.720 here are the rules. 116 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:45.319 You have to muzzle that dog in public. 117 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:49.720 You cannot walk that dog in public without a muzzle 118 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:50.399 on its face. 119 00:06:51.279 --> 00:06:52.199 God, don't you wish. 120 00:06:52.079 --> 00:06:55.040 They did that for married people? You know, that would 121 00:06:55.040 --> 00:07:02.680 be terrific. That's it a dangerous spouse database. Okay, never mind, 122 00:07:02.759 --> 00:07:09.000 that's in a whole different direction. You can keep on laughing. So, 123 00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:14.360 and there are some big consequences if your dog has 124 00:07:14.439 --> 00:07:17.360 been deemed and that's an official designation, it has been 125 00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:22.800 deemed a dangerous dog. Then there are fines like crazy. 126 00:07:22.839 --> 00:07:24.959 And then eventually I think they can take the dog away. 127 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:27.720 And let me tell you what they do with dangerous dogs, right, 128 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:30.800 They don't keep them around and move them over to 129 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:33.199 no kill shelters. I mean, they can do some serious 130 00:07:33.279 --> 00:07:35.240 damage to these dogs, especially. 131 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:38.319 The bigger ones. So now let's talk about a database. 132 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:43.600 There are places that do have database where you can 133 00:07:43.639 --> 00:07:46.600 actually let's say you move into a new place and 134 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:48.519 you start looking under that database. 135 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:50.839 You know, do your neighbors have one? 136 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:55.240 It's almost like the databases for child molesters that of 137 00:07:55.319 --> 00:07:57.079 course you want, you want to know if they're living 138 00:07:57.079 --> 00:08:00.000 next to you. Now, obviously this is not to that level, 139 00:08:00.720 --> 00:08:03.160 but it certainly isn't fun. I don't know if you've 140 00:08:03.160 --> 00:08:06.439 ever been bitten by a dog or seen someone's been 141 00:08:06.480 --> 00:08:09.519 bitten by a dog. That is no fun at all, 142 00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:12.240 none at all. And I get the matter of fact, 143 00:08:12.480 --> 00:08:15.519 I get calls on handle on the law a bunch 144 00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:17.079 I was bitten by a dog. 145 00:08:17.639 --> 00:08:18.959 That one is a big deal. 146 00:08:19.759 --> 00:08:22.639 You know, you slip and fall, eh, but you've been 147 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:25.040 bitten by a dog. All of a sudden, the insurance 148 00:08:25.040 --> 00:08:28.160 companies kick in and certain dogs they won't even cover. 149 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:31.000 You have a pitball at home, you don't have home 150 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:34.919 insurance that covers it. You have a Rottweiler, a German Shepherd, 151 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:37.399 Your home insurance does not cover that dog. 152 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:40.679 So when it eats the kid next door, you're bear. 153 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:44.000 I got bitten by a German Shepherd when I was 154 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:44.600 about ten. 155 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:48.919 How bad were you injured? How badly were you injured? 156 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:54.240 It ket my my backside pretty good, but I walked 157 00:08:54.279 --> 00:08:54.879 it off. 158 00:08:56.720 --> 00:08:59.399 Your dog was a dog still attached to your ass 159 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:00.480 when you walked off. 160 00:09:00.919 --> 00:09:04.639 Well, it was a big german shepherd, and I think 161 00:09:04.679 --> 00:09:10.840 it came along until I left the driveway, but it 162 00:09:10.960 --> 00:09:14.080 was still big dog. I mean, they should call them, 163 00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:18.080 you know, the Doberman pinchers and all those big they 164 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:21.559 should call them assault dogs, military style assault dogs. 165 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:23.320 And they are, I mean, they can be. 166 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:26.399 You get on the wrong side of those dogs, you're 167 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:30.240 not feeling very good. You're not a happy camper. And 168 00:09:30.519 --> 00:09:32.480 the point is that there are states. For example, the 169 00:09:32.480 --> 00:09:37.519 state of Virginia straight out has a database of dogs 170 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:39.799 who have been deemed dangerous. 171 00:09:39.840 --> 00:09:41.559 In Florida, there's a couple of counties. 172 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:46.639 Minneapolis has a couple of counties where. 173 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:50.120 It is deemed where they have these databases. 174 00:09:51.480 --> 00:09:55.120 And we don't keep track of how many dog bites 175 00:09:55.159 --> 00:09:58.639 there are. And by the way, this is serious stuff again. 176 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:01.120 Back I go to handle on the law where people 177 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:04.039 ask me questions. Yeah, I tend to pooh pooh injuries. 178 00:10:04.279 --> 00:10:06.120 I fell down. Yeah, I'd find you're a klutz. 179 00:10:06.840 --> 00:10:09.399 And you know this happened to me, That happened to me. 180 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:11.360 I tend to say, you've got no case. I enjoy 181 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:13.200 doing that. Whenever there's a dog bite, I. 182 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:15.440 Go, you bet, that's fairly serious. 183 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:18.960 That's why the insurance companies are bangeling out of these 184 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:22.000 big dogs because the bite. Dog bites can be so serious, 185 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:27.120 and of course they do a great job on your 186 00:10:27.159 --> 00:10:30.000 face too, and they deface you. And by the way, 187 00:10:30.039 --> 00:10:32.840 that's one of the biggest lawsuits that exists out there 188 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:39.080 where your relatively the physical injuries aren't huge, huge, but 189 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:42.919 the awards are massive with dog bites, especially on your face, 190 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:43.720 particularly women. 191 00:10:43.960 --> 00:10:45.080 By the way, that's huge. 192 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:49.000 You know. Now you're talking some big, big money. And 193 00:10:49.039 --> 00:10:51.120 I always ask, can I go to a jury? 194 00:10:51.200 --> 00:10:53.200 Yeah? I go, well, what do you think is gonna happen? 195 00:10:53.320 --> 00:10:55.639 I always ask, well, let's start with how ugly you 196 00:10:55.679 --> 00:10:58.039 are to begin with? What are you talking about? Bill? 197 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:01.440 I go, well, you're in front of a jury, right, 198 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:05.480 And if I'm defending the dog owner, I'm going to 199 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:08.559 show before and after pictures and say, you know what, 200 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:14.159 the plaintiff looks better with a dog bite than did before. 201 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:19.720 That's why I do the show, ladies and gentlemen, I 202 00:11:19.799 --> 00:11:23.440 really do now. And and by the way, there is 203 00:11:23.480 --> 00:11:26.240 some seriousness to that. If the person who is being bit, 204 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:29.960 particularly a woman, has a particular is she's particularly attractive, 205 00:11:30.440 --> 00:11:35.159 the awards are astronomical, No yeah, yeah, it's it's actually true. 206 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:39.840 The better looking you are and the more important it is, 207 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:42.320 or the more serious a dog bite case is. 208 00:11:42.480 --> 00:11:42.919 That's true. 209 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:46.960 Actually if someone is well, you know, it depends on 210 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:48.559 how ugly you are to start with. I mean it's 211 00:11:48.600 --> 00:11:51.000 considered serious, you're going to get something, but certainly not 212 00:11:51.200 --> 00:11:54.960 like you know, it's it's like lack of loss of consortium. 213 00:11:55.279 --> 00:11:58.320 Loss of consortium. 214 00:11:57.759 --> 00:12:01.960 Is a cause of action against a wrongdoer or someone 215 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:05.759 who's negligent that has injured your spouse or your girlfriend 216 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:09.720 or boyfriend. And it literally says I cannot have sex 217 00:12:09.799 --> 00:12:13.360 with this person because of what you did. For example, 218 00:12:13.399 --> 00:12:18.360 a car accident, right you've destroyed or someone can't have 219 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:24.320 sex because of your negligence. That party who is living 220 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:27.360 with that person who's been injured can file a lawsuit 221 00:12:27.440 --> 00:12:31.879 for loss of consortium. That's a legitimate cause of action. Now, 222 00:12:32.399 --> 00:12:33.799 do they go very often? 223 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:34.360 They do not. 224 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:39.840 Do they go for jury trials rarely because there's always 225 00:12:40.240 --> 00:12:43.600 some old guy on the jury or. 226 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:46.600 Some guy says, I haven't been laid in ten years. 227 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:48.799 You think I'm gonna give him money for that or 228 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:52.399 her money for that. By the way, that is legitimate. 229 00:12:53.639 --> 00:12:56.759 Handle on the law every Saturday morning, eight to eleven 230 00:12:56.799 --> 00:12:59.159 o'clock right here on KFI. 231 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:04.519 Okay, I think we'll endit at that, what do you think? Sure? Sure? 232 00:13:04.759 --> 00:13:07.440 All right, it is time. Do they have a case 233 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:12.639 with Wayne Resnick and me? Hello Bill Wayne? 234 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:16.759 The Maricopa County Sheriff's Office. Amongst many other things that 235 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:20.480 they have done, like making inmates wear purple underwear pink underwear. 236 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:21.519 Live that's Joe R. 237 00:13:21.639 --> 00:13:26.200 Pile, Yes, the live streaming from inside the jail to 238 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:29.240 try to humiliate the inmates. Another thing they do is 239 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:32.480 they have a webs called mugshot look Up, and if 240 00:13:32.519 --> 00:13:35.120 you get arrested, they put your mugshot up there with 241 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:38.120 quite a lot of information about you, whether or not 242 00:13:38.200 --> 00:13:42.519 you're ever even charged with a crime. So here comes 243 00:13:42.519 --> 00:13:46.840 a guy named Brian Houston. He's arrested and charged with assault. 244 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:50.080 They put his picture up. They've got his full name, 245 00:13:50.200 --> 00:13:56.399 is date of birth, his sex, height, weight, hair color, 246 00:13:56.519 --> 00:14:00.200 eye color, and the charge of assault. It was up 247 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:03.320 there for several days, during which time it was scraped 248 00:14:04.080 --> 00:14:06.799 by a bot service that then puts it up on 249 00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:13.519 privately run mugshot websites, and he was never charged. They 250 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:16.279 dropped it the prosecutors looked at what happened, he dropped everything. 251 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:20.399 So he sues the sheriff's office. He'd likes to be 252 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:24.679 a class action on behalf of everyone, saying that it's 253 00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:28.080 violating his rights against due process, that they are putting 254 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:32.360 the pictures up there as a punitive measure and without 255 00:14:32.399 --> 00:14:34.399 a legitimate public reason. 256 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:37.720 The sheriff's office says. 257 00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:43.399 Oh, we have a great public reason, transparency. 258 00:14:44.840 --> 00:14:47.639 It helps transparency. Hmm. 259 00:14:49.039 --> 00:14:51.720 Do you really need to know things like his weight 260 00:14:52.480 --> 00:14:55.759 in order for there to be transparency about how the 261 00:14:55.799 --> 00:14:59.960 sheriff's office is run. Also, you don't put anything up 262 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:03.440 about who the arresting officers were, which district of your 263 00:15:03.440 --> 00:15:06.440 office made the arrest, whether or not he's got a 264 00:15:06.519 --> 00:15:10.000 pending court date, which jail that he is held at. 265 00:15:10.399 --> 00:15:13.440 It doesn't really seem like a lot of transparency about 266 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:14.559 the sheriff's office. 267 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:18.600 We say it's punitive and you can't do that. 268 00:15:19.440 --> 00:15:22.360 So the lower court the sheriff's office wins, as you 269 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:25.519 probably are not surprised, but it goes up to the 270 00:15:25.600 --> 00:15:29.600 Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals and Brian Houston says there's 271 00:15:29.720 --> 00:15:32.440 no legitimate basis to do what they're doing here to 272 00:15:32.519 --> 00:15:36.159 put that much information about me and no information about them, 273 00:15:36.600 --> 00:15:41.840 And it hurts my reputation to be on a website 274 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:45.600 that can be accessed by anybody in the world to 275 00:15:45.720 --> 00:15:48.320 see this stuff, not only for what they put, but 276 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:52.440 for what they don't put, Like no charges werever filed. 277 00:15:52.600 --> 00:15:55.480 I would like some money, and also I would like 278 00:15:55.559 --> 00:15:57.840 anybody else who's had their mugshot put up there to 279 00:15:57.960 --> 00:15:58.720 become part of. 280 00:15:58.679 --> 00:16:02.399 A class action. So the class action. 281 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:04.480 Parts maybe not as interesting, but it was part of 282 00:16:04.519 --> 00:16:08.159 the case. Does he have a case though they should 283 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:09.080 not be doing. 284 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:10.120 This, Yeah too, I can. 285 00:16:10.279 --> 00:16:13.919 The only justification I can think of by putting up 286 00:16:13.919 --> 00:16:19.759 a mug shot prior to a even a conviction, just 287 00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:22.320 on the basis of arrest, is if they are looking 288 00:16:22.440 --> 00:16:26.879 for him. If they are looking for him, that is 289 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:29.639 logical that a mug shot is put. 290 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:31.039 Up after that. 291 00:16:31.919 --> 00:16:37.360 Man, I think that that is it seems it seems 292 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:41.200 punitive to me, only because today with the Internet and 293 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:45.960 the ability to share it with virtually everybody, it's I 294 00:16:45.960 --> 00:16:49.440 think it's reached the level of punitive. I think technology 295 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:52.320 and just the way it's being used. Yeah, I would 296 00:16:52.320 --> 00:16:54.919 agree with him that it's punitive, even though there is 297 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:58.080 a history of mugshots being put up, my favorite one 298 00:16:58.120 --> 00:17:01.200 being Nick Nolty. If you remember that wonderful shot of 299 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:04.079 his when he was arrested for trunk driving. I thought 300 00:17:04.119 --> 00:17:08.119 that was spectacular. So I'm saying he wins. 301 00:17:09.440 --> 00:17:11.119 Now before I tell you if you're right or not. 302 00:17:12.240 --> 00:17:16.200 Do you think they had in the back of their 303 00:17:16.279 --> 00:17:20.640 mind all the other crazy stuff that Maricopa County has 304 00:17:20.799 --> 00:17:26.480 done with arrestees and inmates, or that they really just 305 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:31.000 looked at the legal questions on this specific issue. 306 00:17:32.039 --> 00:17:37.079 You know what, I would guess that the judges would 307 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:41.920 be objective enough to not look at that. However, they're 308 00:17:42.039 --> 00:17:45.519 human beings and it's hard to look at Maricopa County 309 00:17:46.119 --> 00:17:49.480 without looking at the crazy crap that went down. So 310 00:17:50.480 --> 00:17:52.599 i'd be let me put it this way, I would 311 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:55.119 be surprised if the court bought. 312 00:17:54.880 --> 00:17:59.359 The transparency argument. That's how I feel you are correct. 313 00:17:59.799 --> 00:18:01.640 They said a lot of what you just said. 314 00:18:02.759 --> 00:18:04.960 They really kind of hand it to the Sheriff's department 315 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:08.160 in this decision, going through why everything the department's saying 316 00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:10.319 about why they should be allowed to do it is bogus. 317 00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:12.880 And as to that issue, if did they look at 318 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:13.440 other stuff? 319 00:18:13.759 --> 00:18:14.359 They did. 320 00:18:15.720 --> 00:18:19.759 In one sense, there was already a federal case about 321 00:18:19.799 --> 00:18:24.480 the live streaming of the inmates. There was a lawsuit 322 00:18:24.480 --> 00:18:27.640 against the Sheriff's department, and the Ninth Circuit said about that. 323 00:18:27.839 --> 00:18:31.960 You can't do that and broadcast these people in jail 324 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:36.279 to the world. There's no purpose for that. And so 325 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:40.119 because Maricopa County already got dinged once for this kind 326 00:18:40.160 --> 00:18:45.279 of thing, basically publicizing worldwide the people under their control, 327 00:18:46.240 --> 00:18:48.559 they already had a basis on which to conclude the 328 00:18:48.599 --> 00:18:49.359 mugshots are. 329 00:18:49.279 --> 00:18:53.720 No good makes sense to me because today, well not 330 00:18:53.759 --> 00:18:56.759 only is there no sense of privacy anymore, but still 331 00:18:56.839 --> 00:19:00.200 under those circumstances, the authorities going way too far, And 332 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:02.200 then the argument of transparency is complete. 333 00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:02.640 Crapple. 334 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:05.680 All right, have you ever seen the vehicle known as 335 00:19:05.680 --> 00:19:06.400 a SnowCat? 336 00:19:07.319 --> 00:19:07.519 Yeah? 337 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:12.240 Question, They're huge, right, they're big. So the cops are 338 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:16.240 looking for a stolen SnowCat. This particular model is eight 339 00:19:16.279 --> 00:19:21.279 feet wide, seven and a half feet tall, and sixteen 340 00:19:21.440 --> 00:19:27.440 feet plus long. They think this guy has hidden it 341 00:19:27.759 --> 00:19:32.319 in the garage at his mom's property. So they go 342 00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:35.880 over there to look for it, and they think they 343 00:19:35.920 --> 00:19:37.920 see someone in the house. So they ring the doorbell 344 00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:41.799 and nobody answers the doorbell, and they don't really see 345 00:19:41.839 --> 00:19:44.440 the SnowCat. So they go get a search warrant and 346 00:19:44.519 --> 00:19:48.799 they come back two hours later, and because the mom 347 00:19:49.440 --> 00:19:53.319 was a registered firearm owner, they decide this is going 348 00:19:53.400 --> 00:19:58.240 to be a dangerous warrant service. So they lobb tear 349 00:19:58.319 --> 00:20:03.000 gas into the house and then they bust down the 350 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:09.079 door and in they go, and nobody's home. And also 351 00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:13.920 the SnowCat is not in the garage, so uh. The 352 00:20:13.960 --> 00:20:19.319 women sues them for violating her Fourth Amendment rights and 353 00:20:19.480 --> 00:20:23.640 also for using excessive force by you know, damaging the 354 00:20:23.680 --> 00:20:26.720 heck out of her house. And the cops say, hey, man, 355 00:20:26.799 --> 00:20:30.480 you can't do nothing to us qualified immunity. We were 356 00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:33.920 serving a valid warrant. We had a reason to be 357 00:20:34.119 --> 00:20:38.319 concerned about safety. It is well established that if the 358 00:20:38.359 --> 00:20:42.079 cops beat down your door to get in that you 359 00:20:42.119 --> 00:20:45.319 can't do anything about it. And she says, of course, 360 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:48.680 her lawyers they say, wait a minute, there were no 361 00:20:48.920 --> 00:20:53.119 exigencies when you came to the house. Yes, the cops 362 00:20:53.160 --> 00:20:56.599 can kick down the door if there's an exigency, if 363 00:20:56.599 --> 00:20:59.279 they think you're hiding evidence, or there's danger, you know, 364 00:20:59.319 --> 00:21:02.200 somebody's being inside. There was nothing like that. In fact, 365 00:21:02.240 --> 00:21:04.200 nobody was home. There couldn't have been. 366 00:21:05.079 --> 00:21:06.319 And also, by. 367 00:21:06.160 --> 00:21:10.759 The way, there's no way that SnowCat could have been 368 00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:15.240 in the house. You weren't even allowed to look in 369 00:21:15.319 --> 00:21:19.079 the house. And the cops say, well, we had a 370 00:21:19.079 --> 00:21:21.079 search warrant to search the property in the house is 371 00:21:21.119 --> 00:21:24.160 on the property, And her lawyers say, why don't you 372 00:21:24.200 --> 00:21:28.359 look at the law and how search warrants work. When 373 00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:30.759 you have a search warrant, you have to say what 374 00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:34.359 place you're searching, and you have to say specifically what 375 00:21:34.400 --> 00:21:38.200 you're looking for. And then here's the part that we 376 00:21:38.319 --> 00:21:43.079 think is filled in under the law. Because you must 377 00:21:43.119 --> 00:21:46.200 say what you're looking for, that's the only thing you 378 00:21:46.240 --> 00:21:49.400 can look for. You're not allowed to look for any 379 00:21:49.400 --> 00:21:52.240 old thing, only the thing you put in the warrant. 380 00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:58.359 And that means that means you can only look where 381 00:21:58.480 --> 00:22:03.680 that thing could possible. If I get a search warrant 382 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:06.240 on your house, bill and I'm looking for a seven 383 00:22:06.279 --> 00:22:10.240 foot tall statue, I can't look in your drawers, I 384 00:22:10.279 --> 00:22:14.200 can't look in your kitchen cabinets because it couldn't possibly 385 00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:16.559 be there. So even though I might be allowed to 386 00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:19.039 be in your house, that doesn't mean I'm allowed to 387 00:22:19.039 --> 00:22:21.640 look everywhere. Just because they were allowed to be on 388 00:22:21.720 --> 00:22:24.559 the property doesn't mean they were allowed to look anywhere. 389 00:22:24.720 --> 00:22:26.480 They shouldn't even have gone in the house at all. 390 00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:32.200 That's hurt the opinion of it. Their opinion is basically, 391 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:36.000 we just didn't do anything wrong, right, And what do 392 00:22:36.039 --> 00:22:38.599 you think does she we have any case? 393 00:22:38.759 --> 00:22:38.960 Yeah? 394 00:22:39.119 --> 00:22:40.359 First of all, I don't even know how they had 395 00:22:40.359 --> 00:22:44.599 a search warrant without specificity. That's for one thing. A 396 00:22:44.680 --> 00:22:47.319 general search warrant allow us to go on the property. 397 00:22:47.960 --> 00:22:49.960 There has they have to be looking for something. And 398 00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:54.200 when they tore into her, for example, medicine cabinet looking 399 00:22:54.240 --> 00:22:58.720 for a SnowCat, that would probably be illegal. Based on 400 00:22:58.880 --> 00:23:02.200 her argument, I can I can't see how she loses 401 00:23:02.319 --> 00:23:05.799