Speaker 1: Test was reported on Monday, which is the beginning more
Speaker 1: or less of Spring Hope Springs Eternal, and having watched
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles beat up so easily on the Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs, that may be quite happy. I'm thinking the
Speaker 1: Bengals might have a long way to go, but we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens. The Reds are much more present concern
Speaker 1: because on paper they look really good. But until then,
Speaker 1: Governor Mike DeWine, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show
Speaker 1: and Governor many issues. So little time. You had told
Speaker 1: me about a month month and a half ago, against
Speaker 1: everyone else at odds that the four to seventy one
Speaker 1: Big Mac Bridge would open by the middle of February.
Speaker 1: People laughed and snickered at you. They said, there's no
Speaker 1: way that's going to happen. And lo and beholding open
Speaker 1: Monday night, which makes my producer Tony Bender so happy.
Speaker 1: What did you know at that point that most of
Speaker 1: us did not know?
Speaker 2: Well, I just was telling Oda, we got to get this.
Speaker 2: This is this is very people. I'm hearing from a
Speaker 2: lot of people. This is a real pain for them.
Speaker 2: So yes, we put a real push. I kept I
Speaker 2: kept on them. I kept on on Pam Borton, who's
Speaker 2: the head of ODO now, And I said, Pam, you
Speaker 2: have to make things happen, and you know we got
Speaker 2: it open, so thank god.
Speaker 1: Well it's it's a lifesaver. I know you're in Green County.
Speaker 1: I know you're in Columbus. I know you have great
Speaker 1: roots in Cincinnati. But that bridge, dammit, has caused billions
Speaker 1: of dollars worth of havoc and pain for so many.
Speaker 1: It destroyed businesses, destroyed lives. There's two criminals, career criminals
Speaker 1: been indicted for it. We don't have the full story yet,
Speaker 1: but that's that's a great positive. Secondly, you announced a
Speaker 1: few days ago that lieutenant governor will be Jim Tressel.
Speaker 1: And I knew he had a great history at Ohio State,
Speaker 1: won the state title, I'm the national title, and then
Speaker 1: Youngstown State. He did a bunch of stuff with Youngstown
Speaker 1: State as the president. Why'd you pick Jim Tressel who's
Speaker 1: never been in politics? Over all the politicians that wanted
Speaker 1: that gig.
Speaker 2: Well, I think I surprised you, Bill, didn't I yes, surprise.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, I didn't see that in coming.
Speaker 2: Nobody else did either, So you know. Nine days before
Speaker 2: the announcement, I called up Jim Tressel and I said,
Speaker 2: I want to come see you, and friend, I went
Speaker 2: up there. He lives up near Medina and went into
Speaker 2: what he called He showed us his uh buck Eye
Speaker 2: man cave and this is the ultimate buck eye man
Speaker 2: cave with with rings and footballs and everything. Anyway, so
Speaker 2: we had that conversation, but then we got down to
Speaker 2: business and I asked him if he would serve as
Speaker 2: my lieutenant governor. And what I told him was, look,
Speaker 2: I'm healthy, but you know, one never knows. And I
Speaker 2: need somebody who I have great confidence in their judgment,
Speaker 2: great confidence in their leadership ability that if for some
Speaker 2: reason I could not serve during the next two years
Speaker 2: sometime and that person became governor, I want someone who
Speaker 2: I could really make sure that they were really a
Speaker 2: leader and someone who really cared about education, cared about kids.
Speaker 2: And I said that's number one. Number two, I said,
Speaker 2: you know you can really help me over the next
Speaker 2: two years. And Bill, I've known Tressel for a long time,
Speaker 2: but I really got to know him after he became
Speaker 2: president at Youngstown State University. And I know Cincinnati is
Speaker 2: a long, long way from Youngstown, but he has done
Speaker 2: a did a phenomenal job for nine years as the president.
Speaker 2: He pulled the business community together. You know, a university
Speaker 2: can be a great engine of economic development, and he
Speaker 2: worked to make that happen in Youngstown. He's someone who
Speaker 2: is I think, very practical.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I asked him a few months ago. I said, you know, Jim,
Speaker 2: we've got a lot of universities in Ohio public fourteen
Speaker 2: of them, but we've got you know, fifty or sixty private,
Speaker 2: and with the demographics of fewer kids, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: these schools are some of them having a difficult time.
Speaker 2: I said, what would you recommend? And he says, look,
Speaker 2: he says you have to cut you know, Okay, he
Speaker 2: says you have to you have to pare down the cost.
Speaker 2: And he says, you can't have classes where there's a
Speaker 2: one professor teaching five kids. He says, just it simply
Speaker 2: will not will not work. And and that just that's
Speaker 2: kind of gives you an idea what kind of what
Speaker 2: kind of guy he is. But anyway, back to the story,
Speaker 2: I you know, we talked to him and he said, well,
Speaker 2: I might be interested in that, and uh, you know,
Speaker 2: so then we could be carried on a conversation by
Speaker 2: phone for the you know, the next few days. And
Speaker 2: then he said, look, he says, I'm I got talked
Speaker 2: to Ellen. I got talked to my wife and uh
Speaker 2: and she basically told him, according to Jim, she said,
Speaker 2: you know, I think God has something in mind for you. You
Speaker 2: need to you need to listen, and you need to
Speaker 2: do that. So uh so I'm just delighted, delighted to
Speaker 2: have him.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: He's going to really work a lot on workforce development.
Speaker 2: UH is going to work on education, UH, economic development.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Those are all intertwined because we're creating more jobs every
Speaker 2: day in Ohio than we have people fill them. So
Speaker 2: we got to make sure that everybody who uh you know,
Speaker 2: is growing up when they graduate high school, they they're
Speaker 2: on some pathway uh, and we help them get the
Speaker 2: tools that they need to be able to, you know,
Speaker 2: live live their version in the American dream. And that's
Speaker 2: what she's But he's he's all he's a passionate guy
Speaker 2: about young people. He's just a natural leader and he
Speaker 2: leads young people. And that's what he really has cared
Speaker 2: about his whole life.
Speaker 1: Does he see this as a stepping stone because as
Speaker 1: you know, in addition to being the governor, you're the
Speaker 1: head of the Republican Party, and you got Veak Ramaswami
Speaker 1: out there has announced, there's others going to announce for
Speaker 1: for for your position. They want to be the governor.
Speaker 1: It is trust going to be a candidate for governor
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: Well, Bill, he and I never I got the question
Speaker 2: a similar question the other day, and he and I
Speaker 2: never have talked about that. I mean, are what I
Speaker 2: said to him is you know, can you sign up
Speaker 2: for basically a two years uh and and you know,
Speaker 2: do this and help us for for the next two years.
Speaker 2: We never talked in any way, shape or form about
Speaker 2: running running running for office, So that's not not certainly
Speaker 2: not come up.
Speaker 1: Is he gonna do it? Franz Franz, is he gonna
Speaker 1: do it?
Speaker 2: Fran calculate, fran calculated the day, the days, and it
Speaker 2: came up to almost exactly one hundred weeks. So I said,
Speaker 2: will you sign up for one hundred weeks? And he said, yes,
Speaker 2: I will.
Speaker 1: So you don't see him getting an exploratory committee together soon. Because,
Speaker 1: as you may know, the primary is a little over
Speaker 1: a year away, and if he's going to run for
Speaker 1: your gig, he's going to have to start raising money immediately.
Speaker 1: But veg Ramaswami's a rich guy. Other people want the
Speaker 1: job also, And I guess we're gonna know in the
Speaker 1: next six months if he establishes an exploratory committee and
Speaker 1: starts raising money. Would Governor Mike DeWine be surprised?
Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't. I wouldn't look forward to that. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think his focus is really the present. His focus
Speaker 2: is not about running. You know, things could change in
Speaker 2: the world. I understand that, But I'm just telling you
Speaker 2: from my conversation with him, we've never had a discussion about,
Speaker 2: you know, him him running for office. That's not what
Speaker 2: he signed up for, all right.
Speaker 1: Two or three other issues. One is the chip plant Intel.
Speaker 1: There's reporting that Intel's having some difficulties. If I would
Speaker 1: go to the site of the Intel plant that you
Speaker 1: and Ustad like Governor put together a couple three years ago,
Speaker 1: are you still confident the chip plant, the Intel plant,
Speaker 1: that big development in and around Columbus is going to happen?
Speaker 1: Yes or no?
Speaker 2: Yes? Absolutely, Bill, think about this and I may be
Speaker 2: all a couple of billion dollars. But I think they've
Speaker 2: already put into the ground literally, uh, in building and
Speaker 2: building this material and construction costs of about seven or
Speaker 2: eight billion dollars already in the ground. And every day
Speaker 2: they're putting more, more and more money in. They're doing
Speaker 2: more work. So there will be a chip factory there.
Speaker 2: What we don't know is how fast uh it will
Speaker 2: build out. I mean, you know, they they committed to
Speaker 2: do two fabs, as they say, uh, but they also
Speaker 2: told us that you know, there could be four times
Speaker 2: that much go in if if business is good. We
Speaker 2: don't know, you know, how that business is going to
Speaker 2: work out. I don't think anybody knows. But they're going
Speaker 2: to be making They're going to be making chips work there,
Speaker 2: and it's a it's it's a great, great, great thing.
Speaker 1: Now, another issue percolating is marijuana and uh Ohioan's passed
Speaker 1: the marijuana law. They made it a h a statue
Speaker 1: instead of a constitutional amendment. Those on the marijuana side
Speaker 1: that are actually operating or unhappy with these moves by
Speaker 1: the legislature to fifty percent increase and taxes to the government,
Speaker 1: taking away local government money, which many consider critical. There's
Speaker 1: a sense that possibly the leaders of the House in
Speaker 1: the Senate actually want to kill the marijuana situation by
Speaker 1: sending more money to the dark market. As you may know,
Speaker 1: in the first year, three hundred million dollars of legal
Speaker 1: sales took place to which took three hundred million dollars
Speaker 1: out of the dark market, out of the pockets of
Speaker 1: drug dealers. And now I think there are some that
Speaker 1: are going to seemingly what they're going to do is
Speaker 1: make it more expensive in order to buy legal marijuana.
Speaker 1: Is there where does the governor stand on a fifty
Speaker 1: percent increase on money's going to state and taking it
Speaker 1: away from local governments and making it to more expensive,
Speaker 1: which will drive more people to the dark market. What
Speaker 1: does Governor Mike Line stand on that?
Speaker 2: Well, that's the kind of leading question. Bill. Let me
Speaker 2: let me phrase it a little differently. When the when
Speaker 2: this thing was written, keep in mind, it was written
Speaker 2: by the UH people who wanted to make money from marijuana,
Speaker 2: and they have every right to do this, and people
Speaker 2: ended up voting for you would people want to vote
Speaker 2: it for it? You know? I doubt if very few
Speaker 2: of them thought about where the money from that is
Speaker 2: going to go to They're basically were voting on hey,
Speaker 2: should we have marijuana or not have marijuana? And I
Speaker 2: lost that. I think it was I think it was
Speaker 2: a mistake, but that's that's what the voter said. So
Speaker 2: we're gonna We're gonna obviously live live with that. But
Speaker 2: there's some goofy stuff in the way it was written.
Speaker 2: For example, Uh, you know you talk about money going
Speaker 2: to local government. It's almost like this crazy lottery.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know if if you were a township or the village, uh,
Speaker 2: and you had you had a facility there, Yeah, you
Speaker 2: got some money. But your neighbor over here, another township
Speaker 2: that might need money, they get nothing from that. So
Speaker 2: you had winners, you had losers. And so what we've
Speaker 2: done is try to identify some needs in the state
Speaker 2: of Ohio, things that we do not have money for,
Speaker 2: can't find any money for, and utilize the money for that. Jails,
Speaker 2: for example, we have problem with jails. We've got some
Speaker 2: of the people in your rural counties that listen to
Speaker 2: you every single day, they're faced with spending a lot
Speaker 2: of money to build a new jail or to revitalize
Speaker 2: the jail. We want to help them in doing that,
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of other things that we would
Speaker 2: use this money for. So I think there's clearly room.
Speaker 2: If you look at what other states have done, there's
Speaker 2: clearly room to raise the tax on that. We don't
Speaker 2: want a situation where, you know, we drive people out
Speaker 2: of the market, but also we need to be able
Speaker 2: to take that money and frankly do some things that
Speaker 2: are very very positive in in in in the state
Speaker 2: of Ohio.
Speaker 1: Well, the other issue is the UH. Those on the
Speaker 1: marijuana side feel as if I'm speaking for them, not myself,
Speaker 1: for you, but they think think they're being sandbagged by
Speaker 1: UH rural edgrarian politicians in Columbus that I don't like marijuana.
Speaker 1: I think most politicians in Columbus don't like marijuana and
Speaker 1: they want to regulate it out of existence. And so
Speaker 1: they're saying, Okay, we're gonna take the abortion route. What
Speaker 1: we're going to do is put in a constitutional amendment
Speaker 1: and get that passed and get the lawmakers out of it.
Speaker 1: Are you concerned about that issue?
Speaker 2: No, I'm not concerned about that. Look, no one is
Speaker 2: saying that we're not going to sell marijuana. Look, we
Speaker 2: live in a country where the voters have to say
Speaker 2: they voted and they want legal sales of marijuana. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think it was a mistake. I think it was
Speaker 2: a mistake because you know, UH, if you look at
Speaker 2: young people, you know, the is abundantly clear UH that
Speaker 2: the frequent use of marijuana among kids whose brain is
Speaker 2: still developing, UH can end up with a significant loss
Speaker 2: in IQ. I mean that's a that's a real, real problem.
Speaker 2: But that's what the that's what the voters voted for.
Speaker 2: And so we're not going to uh roll back and
Speaker 2: say we're going to go to prohibition. The voters are
Speaker 2: voted for it, and they're going to be able to
Speaker 2: buy it in the state of Ohio. No one is
Speaker 2: saying that that that we should go against the will
Speaker 2: of the voters in regard to that. I just think
Speaker 2: that how the money gets spent and where that money
Speaker 2: really goes to, uh no one, no one who voted,
Speaker 2: very few people who voted voted because they want that money, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, to go to some of the different causes
Speaker 2: that were contained in in that bill. I think we
Speaker 2: have an obligation uh to respect the voters UH provide
Speaker 2: the marijuana uh in in illegal and safe fashion or
Speaker 2: save as you can make it. But we also have
Speaker 2: an obligation on that money in a respectful way and
Speaker 2: an intelligent way.
Speaker 1: In that regard, there's a lot of fake marijuana being
Speaker 1: a lot of fake marijuana being sold like inconvenience stores
Speaker 1: that is not not selling as marijuana, and there's kids
Speaker 1: buying that product. Couldn't that issue be dealt with off
Speaker 1: to the side without having a complete overhaul?
Speaker 2: Sure? Sure, and uh, you know, but we've asked the
Speaker 2: legislature to do it. I've asked them, and there's no
Speaker 2: way that I can stop that. And it is, as
Speaker 2: you indicated, a real problem. Kids are buying this junk. Uh,
Speaker 2: and we have no way to stop these people from
Speaker 2: selling it to them. But you know, the leaders in
Speaker 2: the legislature have assured me that, you know, within the
Speaker 2: next several months, they're going to pass legislation to stop that.
Speaker 2: So I certainly hope that they do, and I will
Speaker 2: I will quickly sign it.
Speaker 1: All Right, in your last two years about a minute
Speaker 1: or two remaining, Governor, Mike DeWine, what do you want
Speaker 1: to accomplish the next year or two You've not yet done?
Speaker 2: Stay really focused on the basics investing in people. What
Speaker 2: he has used to say, you win with people. That's
Speaker 2: that's really the key. We want every kid who graduates
Speaker 2: from high school to be on some pathway. We want
Speaker 2: kids to stay in Ohio. You know, we want everybody
Speaker 2: to live up to their God given potential. To do that,
Speaker 2: we need to remove barriers that stop them. One of
Speaker 2: the big barriers today's inntal mental health problems. We're trying
Speaker 2: to build out a system that no matter where you
Speaker 2: live in the state of Ohio, you will have access
Speaker 2: to good mental health health care. We're focused on what
Speaker 2: we call the science of reading and education phonics sounding
Speaker 2: words out. We got away from that for about twenty
Speaker 2: or twenty five years. We've paid a heavy, heavy, heavy price.
Speaker 2: So you know, we're focused on kids, focused on reading,
Speaker 2: focused on giving people the tools that they need to
Speaker 2: be successful.
Speaker 1: Well, last I know, Townshaw, I got a text serve
Speaker 1: from a township trustee not happy about taking money away
Speaker 1: from townships. I have a text here from a legal
Speaker 1: marijuana business saying they're outraged to what's happening. And I
Speaker 1: would think that Matt Huffman, who's the Speaker of the House,
Speaker 1: is going to have to have these hearings to indicate
Speaker 1: how much you can raise without driving people into the
Speaker 1: dark market. A three undred million dollars out of the
Speaker 1: pockets of drug dealers is a great thing and really
Speaker 1: destroy the marijuana business. When someone can go to Michigan,
Speaker 1: for example, and pay a lot less money makes no sense.
Speaker 1: And I hope Matt Huffman takes that into account once again.
Speaker 1: Governor Mike Dewaine, you shocked the world by appointing Jim
Speaker 1: Tressell as the lieutenant governor, and we'll see what happens
Speaker 1: down the road. Are you endorsing anyone for your seat
Speaker 1: or are you going to endorse for a Ramaswami for example.
Speaker 2: I think it's much too early to getting in the
Speaker 2: endorsement business. I mean, what my job is, I think
Speaker 2: is to really kind of tell the people to state
Speaker 2: where we are in these different issues and outline at
Speaker 2: least what I think is important. And I think educating,
Speaker 2: educating people given the tools they need to be successful.
Speaker 2: That's that's what we need to continue to do, all right.
Speaker 1: Mike DeWine, thank you very much, Governor State of Ohio.
Speaker 1: Give my best of friend as uh As Valentine's day
Speaker 1: approaches and know you're going to give her a box
Speaker 1: of candy and some flowers. You two have been through
Speaker 1: a lot in your life. Incredible journey and last we
Speaker 1: had thirty seconds. When your term is up? Are you done?
Speaker 1: D U n N done? Are you going to back
Speaker 1: to Cedarville? You're going to be a Miami University trustee?
Speaker 1: Are you done? Are you done with politics? Next year?
Speaker 2: Why think I'm running again? Bill, But I'm going to
Speaker 2: stay pack even things and uh, you know the same
Speaker 2: things I care about today, which is you know about
Speaker 2: kids and kids who are you know, have difficulties, challenges
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, but I'm not sure exactly. But
Speaker 2: I got two more years and my focus right now
Speaker 2: is on those, on those two years and the one
Speaker 2: hundred weeks that we've got left.
Speaker 1: All right, Governor Mike Dwine, you're a great American. Thank
Speaker 1: you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Mike,
Speaker 1: Thank you, Governor.
Speaker 2: Billy, thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thank Let's continue with more news is next at show
Speaker 1: them the Reds on News Radio seven one hundred ww
Speaker 1: Bully Cunningham, the great American. So many issues for a
Speaker 1: little time person. I want to stay. Olga Lark and
Speaker 1: the legendary founder of Ron's Roost is turning ninety seven
Speaker 1: years young today today the day before Valentine's Day. So
Speaker 1: if you have time stopping the Ron's Roost in Green
Speaker 1: Township there on Race Road and tell Olga Lark and
Speaker 1: thank you for some seventy years of preparing the finest
Speaker 1: meals money can buy at a low price, great quality
Speaker 1: Ron's Roost and Green Township for Race Road, Olga Lark
Speaker 1: and congratulations ninety seven great years of life and part
Speaker 1: of it when I visit with her, she walks up
Speaker 1: and down the steps every day and she still drives
Speaker 1: her car and has a great time in doing it.
Speaker 1: And Olga Lark and congratulations and a life well lived. Secondly,
Speaker 1: I've noted with interest the comments of Alicia Reese and
Speaker 1: others about these hate mongers from the radical right, that
Speaker 1: being the so called neo Nazis and what happened on
Speaker 1: a bridge overpass on I seventy five in and around
Speaker 1: Lincoln Heights and also Evendale. And by the way, this
Speaker 1: is not the first time these events have transpired. In fact,
Speaker 1: the dispositive case in this area of so called hate
Speaker 1: speech is something called Brandenburg versus Ohio from nineteen sixty nine,
Speaker 1: and it's been low these many years, what fifty to
Speaker 1: fifty five years. The principles by the United States Supreme
Speaker 1: Court in Brandenburg continues to dominate and is the law
Speaker 1: of the land. And it simply says that government that
Speaker 1: includes county commissioners, that includes Evendale, that includes the mayor
Speaker 1: Dick Finen, and includes Lincoln Heights, etc. Government cannot punish
Speaker 1: inflammatory speech unless it is directed to producing eminent lawless
Speaker 1: action and is likely do in site, likely do in
Speaker 1: site said lawless action to produce violence. So that means
Speaker 1: in reality the First Amendment applies to neo Nazis. One
Speaker 1: might say that Kanye West identifies himself he's the so
Speaker 1: called rap singer, Kanye West identifies himself as a Nazi,
Speaker 1: and Ian Mars Adolf Hitler, so on the radical right
Speaker 1: and the radical left to kind of meet in the middle.
Speaker 1: And so these neo Nazis from somewhere in Kentucky have
Speaker 1: the constitutional right to largely do what they did, and
Speaker 1: government should not be in the business of telling individuals
Speaker 1: how to exercise their First Amendment rights. See hate speech
Speaker 1: is protected by the First Amendment unless that speech is
Speaker 1: directed to inciting or producing eminent lawless action, and is
Speaker 1: likely to incite or produce violence. So to unferl, I
Speaker 1: guess the Nazi flag or the swastika on public property
Speaker 1: over the top of I seventy five is protected free speech. Now.
Speaker 1: One way around that, and this is what I'm going
Speaker 1: to talk to Alicia Reese about later on today, is
Speaker 1: that when these things transpire. You might recall that we
Speaker 1: had difficulties on Fountain Square with those putting up the menora,
Speaker 1: and then the reaction from neo Nazis in Kentucky was
Speaker 1: to put up their own, shall we say, a symbol
Speaker 1: of hate, and the courts generally have ruled there can
Speaker 1: be permit processes. That is, you can't have a process
Speaker 1: where you must go to the city of Evendale or
Speaker 1: the city of Lincoln Heights on public property and ask,
Speaker 1: shall we say, permission or to get a permit. But
Speaker 1: the permit requirement has to be deminimous. It has to
Speaker 1: be time and place specific. So if Evendale wants to
Speaker 1: get around this thing, they simply have to pass an
Speaker 1: ordans that says, on any public display or any freedom
Speaker 1: of speech rally. You have to get a permit to
Speaker 1: do it, and the requirements the permit must be deminimous,
Speaker 1: must be simple. You cannot govern content, can govern time,
Speaker 1: place and maybe require the person doing it to pay
Speaker 1: a minimal fee to handle the extra police. But as
Speaker 1: my friends and I say that with my tongue planted
Speaker 1: firmly in my chica on the left, the ACLU, they
Speaker 1: have said, like Louis Sirkin has said repeatedly that government
Speaker 1: cannot restrict neo Nazis or Black Lives Matter protesters from
Speaker 1: doing all kinds of stuff unless their speech is directed
Speaker 1: to inciting or producing eminent violence. It is permitted. Hate
Speaker 1: speech is okay under the First Amendment. It only becomes
Speaker 1: problematic if it calls for eminent lawless action. That is,
Speaker 1: if they unfurled the Nazi flag or swastika saying it's
Speaker 1: time to kill Blacks or Jews or Catholics, and that
Speaker 1: someone determines that to be imminent lawless action. They can't
Speaker 1: be arrested for that. Then go to court and see
Speaker 1: what happens. But the other thing, I read a letter
Speaker 1: to the editor, it might have been USA Today recently,
Speaker 1: and which is said that people that complain loud and
Speaker 1: proudly about this are giving the shall we say, extremists
Speaker 1: exactly what they intend, which is more publicity for their cause.
Speaker 1: And this guest columnist made the point that it might
Speaker 1: be better to do nothing, absolutely nothing, because by putting
Speaker 1: it on the front page of the paper by Channel
Speaker 1: five nine twelve and news radio seven hundred WLW to
Speaker 1: publicize it, it's giving exactly with these right wing hate
Speaker 1: bongers desire, which is more publicity for their calls. But nonetheless,
Speaker 1: I get the alesia resis of this world. As I said,
Speaker 1: I'm a caller after three o'clock and suggest the way
Speaker 1: to handle this is to require a permit, which must
Speaker 1: be rather deminimus. It cannot gauge or stop someone from
Speaker 1: expressing hate speech, but what it can do is give
Speaker 1: parameters what can be done in a minimal way. The
Speaker 1: Ohioloal broadly prohibited advocating for violence as applied to a
Speaker 1: ku Klux Klan clan rally, and mister Brandenburg was a
Speaker 1: ku Klux Klan member convicted on Ohio law for advocating violence,
Speaker 1: and it was determined that he did not simply unfurling
Speaker 1: the Nazi flag or swastika or Black Lives Matter flag
Speaker 1: or other left or right wing bigots does not in
Speaker 1: and of itself inspire violence. The words must be directed
Speaker 1: toward eminent lawlessness and calling for it. And I'm not
Speaker 1: sure on that bridge over I seventy five if that
Speaker 1: was the case, does it give the community a black eye? Absolutely,
Speaker 1: it's a bad thing. It's not good. It's a bad
Speaker 1: look in Hamilton County to have not neo Nazis, as
Speaker 1: fifty thousand cars a day go up and down I
Speaker 1: seventy five, to have to go underneath a swastika or
Speaker 1: neo Nazi symbols. But it is protected by the n
Speaker 1: ice Ats Constitution. But the way around it is to
Speaker 1: have a permit requirement which is deminimous, but which can
Speaker 1: be required by government in one way or another. Now, secondly,
Speaker 1: you just heard Governor Mike Dwine talk about marijuana and more,
Speaker 1: and the stadium issue is another hot issue, Brian Combsman
Speaker 1: talking about it all morning. At least seventy percent of
Speaker 1: the American people and seventy five percent of the lawmakers
Speaker 1: in Columbus say that mister Haslam in Cleveland and mister
Speaker 1: Brown and Cincinnati are both multi multi, multi billionaires. And
Speaker 1: whenever someone thinks that public money directly or indirectly should
Speaker 1: be used to put more money in the pockets of billionaires,
Speaker 1: that's not real popular. And as you know, in Columbus,
Speaker 1: the plan of Mike Dowane is to double the tax
Speaker 1: on gaming revenue and use that money to part of
Speaker 1: that money to incentivize Jimmy Haslam in Cleveland or Mike
Speaker 1: Brown in Cincinnati to build brand new stadiums order to
Speaker 1: grossly improve what they already have. And the lawmakers in
Speaker 1: Columbus tend to be from small rural counties and townships.
Speaker 1: They don't like that. And in fact, it was on
Speaker 1: the ballot in the state of Ohio. I'm sure seventy
Speaker 1: five percent of us would say no, do not give
Speaker 1: money to billionaires team owners and say that for more
Speaker 1: important reasons. When Kansas City, about a year and a
Speaker 1: half ago after they won their Super Bowl, had a
Speaker 1: ballot initiative to extend the sales tax to pay for
Speaker 1: redoing parts of Chief Stadium in Kansas City, it was
Speaker 1: like seventy two twenty eight no Chiefs. Fans said no
Speaker 1: to the Kansas City Chiefs and I am confident if
Speaker 1: it gets to the ballot in Hamlety County that Hamiony
Speaker 1: County residents are going to say, no, we have bigger
Speaker 1: priorities here in Hamlety County in building stadiums for Mike Brown,
Speaker 1: who's a multi multi billionaire, and so I know Mike Brown.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Mike DeWine's intentions maybe to have gamblers pay
Speaker 1: for it, but in reality, the ones who control the
Speaker 1: state legislature, like Speaker of the House of Matt Huffman,
Speaker 1: is extremely powerful if he's from like Allen County, Ada,
Speaker 1: and number one he doesn't care much from marijuana, and
Speaker 1: number two doesn't care much using public money in order
Speaker 1: to build stadiums for multi billionaires to make more billions
Speaker 1: of dollars when Ohio has specific needs so that dog's
Speaker 1: not going to hunt, and so one thing that has
Speaker 1: to happen. And I think Denise tree House has said
Speaker 1: this with Scott Sloan, that they do not have to
Speaker 1: submit any deal they strike with the Bengals to the
Speaker 1: voters for approval because the sales tax doesn't have a
Speaker 1: sunset date. But secondly, I think Alicia Reese has said that,
Speaker 1: let's face it if we're going to spend hundreds of
Speaker 1: millions of dollars of taxpayer money even though we don't
Speaker 1: have to do it. She thinks it's a great idea
Speaker 1: to take it back before the taxpayer and say what
Speaker 1: do you think. And of course the Brown family does
Speaker 1: not want that to happen, because the taxpayer is going
Speaker 1: to say not no, They're going to say hell no,
Speaker 1: don't do it. So we'll see what happens on that front.
Speaker 1: And lastly, on marijuana, And if you've listened to me
Speaker 1: for the last few years, you know it's a great
Speaker 1: American I don't smoke marijuana. I'll take a gumby every
Speaker 1: now and then. It help me to sleep. I got
Speaker 1: a terrible problem sleeping. My mind never stops. I don't smoke.
Speaker 1: I'm never going to smoke anything, including marijuana. In college,
Speaker 1: somehow I missed the entire scene. I was too worried
Speaker 1: about putting food on the table and working and going
Speaker 1: to college and playing baseball and then law school and working,
Speaker 1: and I didn't have time for the silliness of spending
Speaker 1: money on marijuana. But I advocated to let Americans who
Speaker 1: feel differently than me have the option to buy marijuana,
Speaker 1: and so it was passed over the objection of the
Speaker 1: lawmakers and Mike DeWine, and it was passed as an initiative,
Speaker 1: which is a proposed law. It was not passed as
Speaker 1: a constitutional amendment to the Ohio Constitution, as the abortion
Speaker 1: ban was passed. If it's an initiative, that means the
Speaker 1: lawmakers in Columbus can amend it. If it's passed as
Speaker 1: a constitutional amendment, it means the lawmakers can't touch it.
Speaker 1: Because of what's happening now in Columbus. You heard me
Speaker 1: reference this with Mike Brown. Because of what they're doing
Speaker 1: in Columbus, the chicanery going on with the marijuana law.
Speaker 1: It now appears likely if these great changes to what
Speaker 1: we intended to pass and I did vote yes on,
Speaker 1: it comes to pass that the backers of marijuana are
Speaker 1: going to find themselves gathering signatures to make their constitutional amendment,
Speaker 1: in which case Speaker of the House, Matt Huffman, Governor
Speaker 1: Mike Dwine, David Yost has nothing to do with changing
Speaker 1: the law. When you say taking the potency from ninety
Speaker 1: percent to seventy percent, home grow from twelve plans to
Speaker 1: six to require shall we say transport only in the
Speaker 1: trunk of your car, the marijuana prohibit Delta eight, THHC
Speaker 1: sales and convenience stores, and only smoking shall we say
Speaker 1: private residences. A lot of that stuff is okay, especially
Speaker 1: prohibiting Delta eight. But I know the marijuana community is
Speaker 1: outraged at the idea of the government. Instead of having
Speaker 1: a ten percent tax on top of all the other expenses,
Speaker 1: to make it fifteen to twenty percent, Mike DeWine wants
Speaker 1: a one hundred percent increase and the taxes on marijuana,
Speaker 1: and Matt Huffman once at least a fifty percent increase,
Speaker 1: which means that the occasional user and the frequent users
Speaker 1: of marijuana are going to find themselves back into the
Speaker 1: dark market. Some of the numbers I look at from
Speaker 1: Cannabis Control are unbelievable. So far, in the last five
Speaker 1: months since August, there's been three hundred and thirty million
Speaker 1: dollars of money is taken out of the pockets of
Speaker 1: drug dealers three hundred and thirty million and put into
Speaker 1: state coffers to be taxed and used. Thousands of jobs
Speaker 1: are at state and now if you take that number
Speaker 1: up to fifty to one hundred percent increase the cost
Speaker 1: of legal marijuana, according to those I speak to, will
Speaker 1: be too great, and those people use, those Americans in
Speaker 1: Ohio using marijuana will simply go to the dark market
Speaker 1: and supply drug dealers with a billion dollars this year
Speaker 1: of sales that otherwise would not take place. Imagine year
Speaker 1: Ohio is going to enjoy a billion dollars in marijuana
Speaker 1: sales out of the pockets of drug dealers. Is that
Speaker 1: a good thing? Absolutely, But you can't kill the goose
Speaker 1: that lays the marijuana eggs by making it so expensive
Speaker 1: that marijuana users don't want to deal with it. They'll
Speaker 1: go back to their friendly drug dealer, and God knows
Speaker 1: what that entails. That's the problem. So I would hope
Speaker 1: that those who didn't want this law to pass in
Speaker 1: the first place, that being Matt Huffman and David Yost
Speaker 1: and Mike DeWine and John Euston before he left, and
Speaker 1: I got Jim Trussell coming up tomorrow, the new Lieutenant governor,
Speaker 1: that you don't want to kill the goose. The most
Speaker 1: important thing are jobs created in Ohio, and there's five
Speaker 1: thousand jobs created. The most important thing is drug dealers
Speaker 1: are not going to get a billion dollars of Ohio money.
Speaker 1: The most important thing is those who like to use
Speaker 1: marijuana can use it without government overcharging for the price.
Speaker 1: Let's continue with more coming up next with me, Doctor
Speaker 1: Dean Carriocus, the Great Greek, will be here. He's the
Speaker 1: father of modern cardiology at the Christ Hospital. Doctor Dean
Speaker 1: Carriocus and more. If a line becomes available five one, three, seven,
Speaker 1: seven pounds seven hundred. Bill Cunningham, the Great American Live
Speaker 1: at show them the Reds and Bengals and so much more.
Speaker 1: Caepe marijuana the way it is. The townships and the
Speaker 1: cities are participating and enjoying the extra money for local needs.
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham with you every day. You're Home of the
Speaker 1: Red's News Radio seven hundred ww HI Billy Cunningham, the
Speaker 1: Great American. Asian of February is Partmont and one of
Speaker 1: the nation's experts and healthcare, heartcare and more is is
Speaker 1: doctor Dean Carriocus, the Great Greek. He's the interventionist, cardiologist
Speaker 1: and chairman of the board of the Christ Hospital Heart
Speaker 1: and Vascular Institute, is recognized as the top heart hospital
Speaker 1: in the Midwest of not in the entire country and
Speaker 1: the doctor Dean Carriocas. First of all, so much happening
Speaker 1: and heart health today, and let's begin because Valentine's Day's
Speaker 1: coming up. You know, men and women are equal, but
Speaker 1: damn it, we're different. How is treating a woman's heart
Speaker 1: any different at all about treating a man's heart for difficulties?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, Bill, thank you very much for having me.
Speaker 3: And that's a great question. Women are different of Dami Casava,
Speaker 3: who is the director of our women's heart program at
Speaker 3: the Christ Hospital, often says women are not just little men,
Speaker 3: and it's absolutely true. Their symptoms can be different. The
Speaker 3: way they present with a problem, like even a heart attack,
Speaker 3: it can be different. And importantly they also have a
Speaker 3: higher frequency. And what we really specialize in at Christ
Speaker 3: we have women coming getting on airplanes and coming in
Speaker 3: from Michigan to Florida seriously for microvascular dysfunction. This is
Speaker 3: an area where the big arteries on the outside of
Speaker 3: the heart are open, they're not blocked, there's nothing to
Speaker 3: put a stent in, nothing to do bypass for but
Speaker 3: the little arteries and the heart muscle have got a problem.
Speaker 3: And these women have exertional just discomfort, shortness of breath,
Speaker 3: and after a while doctors get frustrated and tell them
Speaker 3: they're nuts, and they give them different medicines and sedatives,
Speaker 3: and what they really need is medicine specifically and an
Speaker 3: evaluation and then treatments specifically directed at this cornary microvascular dysfunction.
Speaker 3: About eight out of ten people with that problem are women.
Speaker 3: So knowing that we have more clinical research in that
Speaker 3: area and see more patients with that problem than any
Speaker 3: place probably in the entire state of Ohio.
Speaker 1: You know, women are more than half the population. My
Speaker 1: wife is a woman, and your wife is a woman,
Speaker 1: and we were born from women. We have daughters and
Speaker 1: granddaughters and aunties and sisters. And until recently, am I
Speaker 1: right to say that women's heart health was not considered
Speaker 1: separate and apart from men's heart health. In this a
Speaker 1: recent development at the christ Hospital.
Speaker 3: I think absolutely. It's actually become one of our fastest
Speaker 3: growing programs, if not the fastest. And what I can
Speaker 3: tell you is that women believe they are protected. They're
Speaker 3: more concerned about issues like breast cancer. But I'll quote
Speaker 3: the first woman editor of the New England Journal of
Speaker 3: Medicine who once said although women are preoccupied with breast cancer,
Speaker 3: they are seven times more likely to die of heart
Speaker 3: and vascular disease once they hit menopause. Cholesterol goes up
Speaker 3: twenty percent. Sixty percent of women who are sixty five
Speaker 3: or older have high blood pressure based on AHA definition,
Speaker 3: and that combination really accelerates their incidence of stroke and
Speaker 3: fast disease in general.
Speaker 1: And you have a specific women's health department at Christ
Speaker 1: and when I'm there, I don't see as many women
Speaker 1: as I should because I think women do not consider
Speaker 1: their heart health to be in the same range as
Speaker 1: breast cancer or gnecological difficulties. But let's face it, it
Speaker 1: is as you say, seven times more women die of
Speaker 1: heart disease than they die of other cancers. Secondly, I
Speaker 1: can remember some sixty years ago doctor Christian Barnard did
Speaker 1: heart transplants. It was unbelievable and for decades not much
Speaker 1: was done. But now the Christ Hospital is doing heart
Speaker 1: transplants and also putting in these so called artificial hearts
Speaker 1: and coronary sinus producers, etc. And Jay Valves explain to
Speaker 1: the American people with that is this is Heart Month
Speaker 1: at the Christ Hospital and in the state of Ohio
Speaker 1: explain all that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we found a need in the community. There
Speaker 3: was a need for heart transplantation was being underserved, and
Speaker 3: we started a program. In the first two years we
Speaker 3: did forty more than forty transplants, and we did the
Speaker 3: fourth in the world of a total artificial heart of
Speaker 3: revolutionary technology. It's about the size of a normal human heart.
Speaker 3: It has one moving part and it gives pulsatal blood flow,
Speaker 3: and we use this to stabilize a patient who is
Speaker 3: literally dying. You know, once the heart fails, the livers fails,
Speaker 3: the kidneys start to fail, and we stabilize as gentleman
Speaker 3: so that he could then be a good candidate and
Speaker 3: he got a heart transplant. So we're able to do
Speaker 3: these ventricular syst devices of total artificial heart and transplant.
Speaker 3: And I think this has been wildly successful when you
Speaker 3: think of it as being a relatively new program. Other
Speaker 3: things that people get on airplanes for and come in
Speaker 3: here to. Literally the referral is from Wide and far
Speaker 3: is the coronary Scius reducer, which is an investigational device.
Speaker 3: And I have to point out that the five corp
Speaker 3: total artificial heart, these are investigational, but you know, Bill.
Speaker 3: We do those things through the Lindar Center for Research
Speaker 3: and Education. We use multiple technologies years ahead of when
Speaker 3: they become commercially available, and these can be really life
Speaker 3: changing or life saving. And as we found with the
Speaker 3: so called J valve that was a catheter valve like
Speaker 3: a Taber tav er, which you know all about, but
Speaker 3: it was designed Yeah, but yours was designed for a
Speaker 3: ortic stenosis. That's narrowing an ortic valve. This was specifically
Speaker 3: designed for leaky aortic valve which usually doesn't have calcium.
Speaker 3: Doesn't have you can't really lock the new valve in.
Speaker 3: So it's designed that it attaches to the leaflets of
Speaker 3: your valve if it's a leaky valve and doesn't require calsification,
Speaker 3: you know, hardening at the previous valve, the god given valve.
Speaker 3: So this is really a breakthrough technology. And we took
Speaker 3: care of people from Florida, Atlanta, even one from California,
Speaker 3: and you know, this is really a great advantage of
Speaker 3: having these technologies available at the Christ's Hospital.
Speaker 1: Should the average person. This has been in the literature
Speaker 1: about taking a baby aspirin every day. It was thought
Speaker 1: what harm can it cause? Therefore, let's do it. You
Speaker 1: took me off of baby ASP a few years ago.
Speaker 1: Explain why it's a good idea or not take a
Speaker 1: baby aspirin after the age of fifty every day.
Speaker 3: Well, there are three large studies, all published within about
Speaker 3: a year of each other, and they looked at primary prevention.
Speaker 3: That's where you haven't had an event. Do you haven't
Speaker 3: had a stroke, cart attack, open heart surgery, stent, et cetera.
Speaker 3: In those patients where you are doing primary prevention, it
Speaker 3: turns out that it's not very effective. You know, people
Speaker 3: two different age groups and a group that was just
Speaker 3: basically diabetics. So even in diabetics, where we view them
Speaker 3: as being higher risk for vascular problems, it didn't alter
Speaker 3: primary prevention. Secondary prevention, I think, is still a different thing,
Speaker 3: and that's where you've had an event, You've had a stroke,
Speaker 3: a heart attack, or a stent bypass surgery. Those individuals,
Speaker 3: I would still recommend a baby ASP today, although that's
Speaker 3: changing dramatically. Bill. We're going more with what we call
Speaker 3: P two Y twelve inefficient monotherapy, which is drop the
Speaker 3: aspirin and leaves the patient on plavix. It turns out
Speaker 3: at least following stenting, even in long term follow up,
Speaker 3: if you put a coronary stent in that that has
Speaker 3: overall less bleeding and the same protection against heart attack
Speaker 3: stroke needing another intervention. So this is still an evolution.
Speaker 3: But monotherapy, which is one versus two, not having two
Speaker 3: medicines of either aspirin alone or preferably and from our perspective,
Speaker 3: preferably is clavison to use a trade name, but it's
Speaker 3: really called pedigrel. It is the generic name. Monotherapy is
Speaker 3: probably safer and more effective net.
Speaker 1: All right, So the idea is just taking a baby aspirin.
Speaker 1: It may cause brain bleeds and may cause gastro problems.
Speaker 1: Check with your doctor. One area you've written about is
Speaker 1: doctor Dean Cariocus of the christ Hospital is inflammation and
Speaker 1: June of twenty twenty three, the FDA approved the drug culturing,
Speaker 1: which was used for gallop for those high risk partes.
Speaker 1: What role does inflammation play in heart attacks and heart disease?
Speaker 1: Simply the inflammation process.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Inflammation's a critical part of the process and that's
Speaker 3: where the CRP level comes. High sensitivity CRP is actually
Speaker 3: a reflection of white cell activity, meaning the white cells
Speaker 3: get into your artery wall, and they cause mischief if
Speaker 3: you will. And inflammation is what eats away at the
Speaker 3: cap of an anthriskotic plaque in your heart artery or
Speaker 3: your neck artery. And once it thns that cap, it's
Speaker 3: more susceptible to rupturing or cracking fissuring that exposes the gruel,
Speaker 3: if you will, the athersk carosis underneath, and it forms
Speaker 3: a cloud. This is why people and you've heard this
Speaker 3: story many times. People got off the treadmill and they
Speaker 3: suddenly dropped dead, or they're walking up to the green
Speaker 3: on the eighteenth hold. Physical or sometimes it's emotional. Stress
Speaker 3: creates stress at the edge of the thin plaque with
Speaker 3: a normal artery, and that's where it ruptures.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: It happened to a number of people. Skip Prosser was
Speaker 3: out jogging in wake Forest, went back to his office,
Speaker 3: but he had physical exertion. They found him at his desk. Okay,
Speaker 3: Tim Russer came back from Europe, is sitting at rushing
Speaker 3: to put his meat the press show together on Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 3: He had sudden death. And then when you're under stress,
Speaker 3: it increases your heart rate, it increases your blood pressure,
Speaker 3: and that's the arteries you know, are pulsing increases the
Speaker 3: stress on a weekend plaque and inflammation is what causes
Speaker 3: that plaque to weaken.
Speaker 1: And so there are drugs right now. Could someone take
Speaker 1: coul shanin which I took for years for gallats and
Speaker 1: I quit taken it years ago because I didn't have
Speaker 1: any more galt attacks. But is out a drug that's
Speaker 1: pretty good?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: Most of recently trials particularly we've participated in a trial
Speaker 3: like this after heart attack and it turned out it
Speaker 3: really didn't make a difference, to be honest. But sometimes
Speaker 3: it's the dose, sometimes it's the duration. I mean, there
Speaker 3: are multiple factors that play into this. So I would
Speaker 3: say that the most recent trial that we participated in
Speaker 3: fact Tim Henry was a co author in the New
Speaker 3: England Journal article that covered this trial, it really didn't
Speaker 3: make a difference in heart attack victims.
Speaker 1: Now, lastly, we just went through five years of COVID
Speaker 1: and there's been according to the literature, and increase in
Speaker 1: cardiovascular problems, either because of COVID, the vaccine or whatever
Speaker 1: it might be. Have you noticed the last five years
Speaker 1: can you peg anything to COVID as causing cardiovascular difficulties
Speaker 1: or is that still subject or research in the future.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: I think COVID had direct and it had indirect effects
Speaker 3: on the heart. The direct effects that were sometimes although
Speaker 3: not that common, but did occur myocarditis, that's inflammation of
Speaker 3: the heart muscle itself, para cardidis, the lining around the heart,
Speaker 3: and at times it would potentially cause thrombosis. Also clotting,
Speaker 3: and this could occur in the coronary arteries. Sometimes people
Speaker 3: get clot in their leg veins and this was in
Speaker 3: temporal association. Large vessel clot including stroke, had been incriminated
Speaker 3: to be due to COVID and particularly the infection. The
Speaker 3: secondary impact of it was people can come to the
Speaker 3: hospital they're dying at home, I'm not kidding, and they
Speaker 3: were afraid to come to the hospital. They're afraid they
Speaker 3: were going to get COVID because the hospitals where all
Speaker 3: the COVID patients were. And that was really a problem. Well,
Speaker 3: I mean, we saw people show up late and saw
Speaker 3: damage to the heart muscle, irreparable damage to heart muscle
Speaker 3: that we hadn't seen in years, because you know, before COVID,
Speaker 3: people got chest pain, they came to the hospital and
Speaker 3: COVID kept them away, unfortunately, but I think that's turning
Speaker 3: back now.
Speaker 1: People.
Speaker 3: COVID has frankly become more of a cold, which is
Speaker 3: what coronavirus was before the nasty one got loose. And
Speaker 3: I'm not going to get into the genesis of that.
Speaker 3: But until that one strain that you know got loose,
Speaker 3: coronavirus cost fifteen to thirty percent of the common cold,
Speaker 3: and now it's going back toward being more like that
Speaker 3: common cold. It can be significant, but it's not hitting
Speaker 3: the lungs to the same extent. It's not killing people.
Speaker 3: We don't have our hospital over run with it. I'd
Speaker 3: say the flu is a multiple of a bigger problem
Speaker 3: right now than COVID is.
Speaker 1: Right well, Doctor you're known as the father of modern heartcare.
Speaker 1: I consider doctor Dean Caryocus the gold standard of cardioc care.
Speaker 1: You're the father, the grandfather, the uncle of heart care.
Speaker 1: And anyone listening to this interview has access to the
Speaker 1: christ Hospital. You don't have to be rich and famous.
Speaker 1: You can be a butcher, a baker, a candlestick maker.
Speaker 1: May I use the term housewife. You could be a woman.
Speaker 1: Women have as many healths, heart problems as men, but
Speaker 1: until recently it's not been treated as such. And I'm
Speaker 1: glad we hooked up many many years ago. And the
Speaker 1: same healthcare that I receive and the heart care that
Speaker 1: I received is available to every person listening to our
Speaker 1: interview and go on the website and check it out.
Speaker 1: But doctor Dean Carryoku is the great Greek, the father
Speaker 1: of modern cardioc cardiology, and the creator Cincinnai area. Doctor
Speaker 1: Dean carry Oucus, once again, thank you for coming on
Speaker 1: the Bill Cunningham Show. May you have a great month
Speaker 1: of February, and happy Valentine's Day to your lovely wife.
Speaker 3: Anne and to you and Penny. I appreciate that very much. Bill,
Speaker 3: thank you.
Speaker 1: You are the father. And doctor Dean carry Oucus. Thank
Speaker 1: you very much.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Bill, I appreciate it.
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Speaker 7: All right, so you.
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Speaker 7: Oh hello, hello, quiet, and I'm schoed, I'm broadcasting.
Speaker 1: God. And you know, Ron we run Larkin will still
Speaker 1: not give a raise to Olga was born. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't want to give the year, but it was
Speaker 1: about I would think it was about nineteen thirty, ninety
Speaker 1: five years ago. Is that correct?
Speaker 7: Well, Willie, Olga Larkin, the happy birthday to the first
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Speaker 7: turned ninety seven years young today.
Speaker 1: I thought I heard the marriage day ninety He missed
Speaker 1: to year. That was from a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: I see ninety seven, So that means she was born
Speaker 1: in like nineteen twenty eight. Yeah, I have that correctly.
Speaker 1: During by the way, segment, who was president in nineteen
Speaker 1: twenty eight?
Speaker 7: Now you're going to ask me that Woodrow Wilson, No,
Speaker 7: I know he was in World War One one. He
Speaker 7: keep it cool with Calvin Herbert Hoover.
Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 1: after that, all hell broke loose. But Segment, Yeah, whenever
Speaker 1: we go to Ron's rous, you go a lot more
Speaker 1: than I go. And I insist. I tell Ron and
Speaker 1: Olga make sure you pay because I know you have
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Speaker 1: which is why you pay. That's what I do. I
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Speaker 1: Is it true you pulled a chair up and just
Speaker 1: use the ladles to get out of the buffet? Is
Speaker 1: that true?
Speaker 3: Not? There?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I leave. I let other people first.
Speaker 1: I go last in line. Right, give me some sports
Speaker 1: and talk about injuries with the Reds.
Speaker 7: Well, ye, let's see college basketball. The Let's see Dante
Speaker 7: Mannox junior comes off the bench to score twenty six.
Speaker 7: Zach Freemano last night with twenty three. Zager wins at
Speaker 7: Providence ninety one to eighty two. So the X is
Speaker 7: now fifteen and ten and even in the Big East.
Speaker 7: At seven and seven, gotta go. Dayton rolls over fod
Speaker 7: of ninety three seventy six. Louisville and Ohio State both won.
Speaker 7: Cardinals are nineteen and six under Pat Kelsey. Pat Kelsey's
Speaker 7: a great coach. Cincinnati Bearcats faight tenth Iowa Saturday. Preview
Speaker 7: it tonight on The West Miller Show live from the
Speaker 7: original Montgomery and after Sports Talk at eight oh five
Speaker 7: right here on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 1: What about West Miller's.
Speaker 7: His job safer now than it was about ten days ago.
Speaker 7: What do you think, I guess so, I mean they're winning,
Speaker 7: So I don't know what they're gonna do about. I
Speaker 7: mean they got number ten Iowa State on the road Saturday.
Speaker 3: Not good.
Speaker 7: Let's see Red's update. Another workout, Another day of workouts
Speaker 7: for the Red Legs. Position players, or the most of
Speaker 7: them are already there, but they report officially on Saturday.
Speaker 7: Tactus League opener one week from Saturday, Willie against those
Speaker 7: Cleveland Guardians and beautiful Goodyear Arizona.
Speaker 1: The REGs made it official today.
Speaker 7: By signing Scott Barlow and uh oh, they placed on
Speaker 7: the sixty day injured list. Right handed Julian Aggie are
Speaker 7: with the right elbow. He underwent Tommy John surgery last October.
Speaker 1: What what's his wake Julian Aggie Are? Did he play
Speaker 1: last year?
Speaker 7: Well up to a point, Yeah, not really, so he's
Speaker 7: on the he's on the sixty day d L. Of course,
Speaker 7: yesterday they said that Rhett Lauder is being delayed in camp.
Speaker 7: He's throwing a little bit, but he's had elbow soreness
Speaker 7: since late last month.
Speaker 1: They are the Reds counting on him from Wake Forest?
Speaker 1: Are they counting on him?
Speaker 7: I would say, well, I would say so. I mean,
Speaker 7: you know, he's he's in the battle for for the
Speaker 7: for the rotation. So I guess if he's not going
Speaker 7: to be in the rotation, I guess what Graham Ashcraft.
Speaker 1: Moves in there. I guess he was going to be
Speaker 1: in the minors. Not so much anymore.
Speaker 7: Hall of Famer Barry Larkin seen in camp working with
Speaker 7: the infielders Gavin Lux Edward and Wara Edward Arroyo and
Speaker 7: also Matt McLean.
Speaker 1: So he's healthing. Is Barry Larkin related to Olga Larkin
Speaker 1: and Ron Larkin? Is it all the same?
Speaker 2: Fami?
Speaker 1: I love Shirley Larkin. No, no, so you're saying they're unrelated. Larkin.
Speaker 7: Free agent Alex Bragman has a new home. He's going
Speaker 7: on on to the Boston Red Sox. Gets a three year,
Speaker 7: one hundred and twenty million dollar deal. He's going to
Speaker 7: make forty million a season. He's going to looks like
Speaker 7: he's going to play second base of the Red Sox.
Speaker 7: He mainly played third for the Astros since twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Scott Boris, of course, is his agent. He has two
Speaker 1: opt outs, So the Red Sox are great to pay
Speaker 1: him one hundred and twenty million dollars with two opt outs.
Speaker 1: Explain that one segment.
Speaker 7: I don't know, will he I mean, it's about time.
Speaker 7: I mean he's been looking for a team since what
Speaker 7: last year?
Speaker 1: It's time.
Speaker 7: And finally, you know, they said, well, he was going
Speaker 7: to maybe go back to Houston, but they said, na babanah.
Speaker 1: And then so he ends up in Boston. Well, one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty million reasons to go to Boston. But
Speaker 1: the tax code in Boston a lot more difficult than
Speaker 1: the tax code in Texas. And then the Red Sox
Speaker 1: have to keep up with the Joneses and the boys.
Speaker 1: And then right, no, the Bronx can't afford the Dodgers anymore.
Speaker 1: How about that? I saw Manager Boone went after the
Speaker 1: Dodgers for how they behaved at the World Series, and
Speaker 1: he said, if the Yankees beat the Dodgers this year,
Speaker 1: we're gonna show a bit more class World Series.
Speaker 7: I guarantee you one thing. If the Dodgers don't win
Speaker 7: it all again this year, uh, they're gonna they're they're gonna,
Speaker 7: I mean, how much pay they got payroll out the
Speaker 7: wazoo up there. Speaking of the Wazoo segment get Me
Speaker 7: out of the Stuge Report. We have mo coming up
Speaker 7: with some exciting details about Wes Miller and Moore, so
Speaker 7: segment Get Me out of the Studge Report. Plus after
Speaker 7: two o'clock today we have junk Science dot COM's expert
Speaker 7: Steve malloy will be here about junk science, who said,
Speaker 7: forty years ago kids were told they never see snow again.
Speaker 7: From the climatologists say, get me out of the Stooge Report.
Speaker 7: Willie and Honnor, of a cold day here at a
Speaker 7: tri state and your return to the triumphant microphones of
Speaker 7: the Big One. We leave you with the immortal words
Speaker 7: of the Stooge Report.
Speaker 4: Oh thanks, side are you on? Which side are you on?
Speaker 3: Me?
Speaker 4: Which side are you on? Which side are you on?
Speaker 7: This is the This is Elizabeth Warren and the demos
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Speaker 8: Landscap within are lead singer is from No she's leading
Speaker 8: the way, but uh, she's got the Maxine Waters and
Speaker 8: Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and Stony as a as a backup.
Speaker 4: Trump's covered in for unions.
Speaker 8: He don't want to, he don't want.
Speaker 4: Till too bow to him, but we want him in jail.
Speaker 1: Which side are you on, awful Trump? Which side are
Speaker 1: you Trump trained?
Speaker 7: He ought to start singing, well, saga man, thank you
Speaker 7: for that interlude, but thank you suck man.
Speaker 1: See you in about forty five minutes. That's your home
Speaker 1: of the Reds. News Radio seven hundred WLW Billy cunning Him.
Speaker 1: Of course, Red's opening night exactly six weeks away against
Speaker 1: the Giants, March twenty seventh, four to ten pm. It
Speaker 1: all happened six weeks from now. Moe Egger, welcome again
Speaker 1: to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Moe I talked with
Speaker 1: you off the air. There was some troubling concerns out
Speaker 1: of Monday or Tuesday from the camp. Tell the American
Speaker 1: people what's going on. Give us a preview of the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five season. Talk about Wes Miller who won
Speaker 1: three in a row. Talk about Xavier beating up on Providence.
Speaker 1: Give me a full report.
Speaker 9: Well, there's a lot there, Willie. It's good to be
Speaker 9: with you. It's nice to be on your show. I
Speaker 9: thought you forgot about me. Let's start with Rhet louder So.
Speaker 9: The Reds are underway, Spring training has started. Pictures and catchers.
Speaker 9: Are there a lot of the position guys, a lot
Speaker 9: of excitement. Terry Francona is the manager Reds of it
Speaker 9: at a very busy last few weeks adding to the team.
Speaker 9: There are reasons for optimism. One of the reasons for
Speaker 9: optimism is the team starting pitching. And when you look
Speaker 9: at the collection of starting pitching, they've got a young
Speaker 9: guy by the name of Rhet Lauder who got called
Speaker 9: up at the end of the season last year, frankly,
Speaker 9: when maybe not as many people were paying attention. He
Speaker 9: was drafted by the Reds in the first round in
Speaker 9: twenty twenty three, got his call up last September, and
Speaker 9: he was terrific. He was awesome, And so one of
Speaker 9: the storylines for me when spring training started was gonna
Speaker 9: be can he crack the starting rotation? Will he be
Speaker 9: in the opening day starting five? And we found out
Speaker 9: on the first day of camp he's dealing with elbow soreness.
Speaker 9: Now they're gonna tell you it's no big deal. They're
Speaker 9: gonna tell you the MRI revealed no structural damage and
Speaker 9: hopefully in a few weeks this is not something we're
Speaker 9: talking about at all. But you know we've all been
Speaker 9: there before. Willie right with a guy who gets hurt
Speaker 9: during spring training. There's an injury and they tell you, ah,
Speaker 9: you know, it's fine, he's gonna be okay, just a
Speaker 9: couple of days, and it turns out he misses time.
Speaker 9: So I don't want to scare anybody, and the Reds
Speaker 9: certainly don't want to scare anybody.
Speaker 1: But this is something, at least for me that I'll
Speaker 1: be paying attention to. I had some say, aren't the
Speaker 1: players ready for spring training before it starts? Unlike the
Speaker 1: good old days when players had second and third jobs,
Speaker 1: their only job after October tenth or whatever, when the
Speaker 1: season ends is to get ready for four months from now.
Speaker 1: So one might ask why I wasn't loud or ready
Speaker 1: and to pitch, or why didn't you work out these
Speaker 1: problems ahead of time. It seems like every spring training
Speaker 1: out of good Year you have more Reds players getting hurt,
Speaker 1: and supposedly they've been working out. It might be better
Speaker 1: not to work out, drink beer, and enjoy life than
Speaker 1: coming out of shape.
Speaker 9: What do you think, well, I think with this the
Speaker 9: possibility exists that he might have exerted himself a little
Speaker 9: bit too much. I think that happens too, where guys
Speaker 9: get to spring training and they undergo a physical and
Speaker 9: it's like, yeah, you know what, I did something while
Speaker 9: I was ramping up. You know, it used to be
Speaker 9: back in the day players would show up at spring
Speaker 9: training and use six seven weeks to get in shape.
Speaker 9: Now they show up in shape. I think in many cases,
Speaker 9: and maybe this is one of them, they ramp it
Speaker 9: up a little bit too much too early, and they
Speaker 9: show up as at least slightly damaged goods once spring
Speaker 9: training actually starts.
Speaker 1: And so Wes Miller, in better shape three in a row,
Speaker 1: has buy out. I know the Inquirre's got a story
Speaker 1: you're well familiar with. Moe is one of the voices
Speaker 1: of UC Athletics that if they let him go in
Speaker 1: about a little over a year, they say about five
Speaker 1: million dollars. And the thought that we're thinking about letting
Speaker 1: him go tells you where the team is. Are you
Speaker 1: concerned about Wes Miller's ability to get the bear catch
Speaker 1: to the promised Land? Well less so than I was
Speaker 1: ten days ago.
Speaker 9: You know, they played a game against West Virginia a
Speaker 9: week ago this past Sunday that I think, quite frankly,
Speaker 9: was the worst game I've ever seen a Bearcat team
Speaker 9: play In thirty five years of following this program, they
Speaker 9: have responded three wins where offensively it's been this very dramatic,
Speaker 9: very quick in season makeover. Now they've done it against
Speaker 9: teams that aren't great defensively byu Utah and UCF. The
Speaker 9: real test is going to be on Saturday, they go
Speaker 9: to Iowa State play an Iowa State team that has
Speaker 9: been ranked in the top five this season have sort
Speaker 9: of collected themselves after losing three straight games on their own.
Speaker 9: I think if if you want to take their NCAA
Speaker 9: tournament chances seriously, you're gonna have to get a good
Speaker 9: showing against either Iowa State or against Houston, or maybe
Speaker 9: against Baylor, who beat him by twenty five points.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 1: I don't think Wes Miller's going anywhere.
Speaker 9: I do think it's going to be really interesting to
Speaker 9: see maybe what happens with the staff if this team
Speaker 9: falls short of expectations this year.
Speaker 1: But I think you have to give them credit.
Speaker 9: For they lost eight out of ten and it kind
Speaker 9: of felt like things were about to spire a lot
Speaker 9: of control. They've since gotten better backcourt play, They've gotten
Speaker 9: some really good minutes from Josh Reid off the bench.
Speaker 9: They rebounded the ball pretty effectively the other night. They've
Speaker 9: got to shore some things up now defensively, but this
Speaker 9: has been over there last one hundred and twenty minutes,
Speaker 9: a better looking offensive team than we had seen from
Speaker 9: any point in the first three months of the season.
Speaker 1: Lastly, most six weeks from now. Who's playing first base
Speaker 1: for your Cincinnati Reds. Who's at first?
Speaker 9: Well, I think that's one of the things that's to
Speaker 9: be determinitary. Francona has acknowledged there's two spots that are
Speaker 9: going to be held down right now, Elie de la
Speaker 9: Cruz and Tyler Stevenson.
Speaker 1: Everything else is up for grabs.
Speaker 9: And remember they've got a DH too, right So at
Speaker 9: first base you could use Christian and Karnassi on strand,
Speaker 9: but you could also use him at third base and
Speaker 9: he could be the designated hitter. Do they give jam
Speaker 9: Or Candelario a shot to play third base? Does he
Speaker 9: go over to first to Spencer Steer play first? Like
Speaker 9: there are for a team that brings back so many
Speaker 9: guys from last year, there are still a lot of
Speaker 9: positions where you don't know. And then the good news
Speaker 9: is I think they have some pretty good options, like
Speaker 9: number one, where's Gavin Luck's gonna play? Acquired from the
Speaker 9: LA Dodgers last year, Does Matt McClain get some time
Speaker 9: in centerfield this season? Who ultimately becomes the third baseman,
Speaker 9: who's gonna play in the corner round field spots? And
Speaker 9: obviously who's on first is going to be one of
Speaker 9: those questions that we hopefully start to get answers to
Speaker 9: here sooner rather than later.
Speaker 1: Lastly, who's red starting pitcher at March the twenty seven
Speaker 1: four to ten PM. Who's got the ball?
Speaker 9: It's got to be Hunter green bona fide staff ace
Speaker 9: All Star last year, eighth in the National League, Cy Young.
Speaker 9: I think if you are, if you are as optimistic
Speaker 9: as I know you're going to claim to be on
Speaker 9: opening Day, that optimism starts with the starting pitching, which
Speaker 9: last year for four and a half five months was
Speaker 9: an asset better than league average. One of the frustrating
Speaker 9: things about last year was the Reds as a team
Speaker 9: underperformed yet their starting pitcher. The starting pitching was better
Speaker 9: than it was in twenty twenty three when they won
Speaker 9: eighty two games. And so I start there with the
Speaker 9: starting staff. And when you talk about the starting staff,
Speaker 9: you talk about Hunter Green, who I think is a
Speaker 9: reasonable bet to win the cy Young this year, a
Speaker 9: reasonable bet to be an All Star and not as
Speaker 9: a replacement, and hands down, I think we would all
Speaker 9: be shocked if he's not getting the ball an opening day.
Speaker 1: Lastly, twelve seconds remain over unders about eighty one games
Speaker 1: for the Reds. Are you betting over or under?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 9: I always bet over because I want something to root
Speaker 9: for in September. The last I saw was seventy eight
Speaker 9: and a half. I'll go over that right now. The
Speaker 9: question isn't do they go over seventy eight and a
Speaker 9: half or eighty one or eighty one and a half?
Speaker 9: The question is can they go over eighty eight and
Speaker 9: a half? Because I think eighty nine wins could win
Speaker 9: this division. The Chicago Cubs had a good offseason, but
Speaker 9: I don't think they're in a position to run away
Speaker 9: from it. The Milwaukee Brewers lost their best position player
Speaker 9: in Willie Damas, the Pittsburgh Pirates have a lot of
Speaker 9: really good young talent, don't look like they're in contending mode,
Speaker 9: and the Saint Louis Cardinals has spent the offseason, trading
Speaker 9: away arguably their best player, trying to trade away arguably
Speaker 9: their best player, Nolan Aernato. This division is there for
Speaker 9: the taking if they stay healthy, and if the offense
Speaker 9: takes a major step forward, and if Terry Francona can
Speaker 9: ensure that a lot of the mistakes that we saw
Speaker 9: last year get cleaned up this year, and if the
Speaker 9: starting pitching is as good as I think it can be. Yeah,
Speaker 9: I genuinely do believe the Reds can win the National
Speaker 9: League Central.
Speaker 1: Meek too, mo Egor. I love probing your mind and
Speaker 1: other parts of your body. Thanks for coming on the
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham Show. Thank him.
Speaker 9: When do you probe other parts of my body? When's
Speaker 9: that going to happen? And we'll be on air.
Speaker 1: News next at your home of the Reds News Radio
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Speaker 2: Do it.
Speaker 1: By Billy Cunningham. The great American Steve Malloy, among other things,
Speaker 1: the senior fellow with the Energy and Environmental Legal Institute,
Speaker 1: the former Trump's EPA transition team member, also editor of
Speaker 1: Junk Science dot com. And once again Steve Malloy, And
Speaker 1: welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And you have a
Speaker 1: great column up about the Inflation Reduction Act, which has
Speaker 1: had some numbers that don't look good on paper. In fact,
Speaker 1: they look terrible for the going forward. And part of
Speaker 1: that reason is, of course, all the money that Biden
Speaker 1: and the Democrats dumped into the economy causing nine percent
Speaker 1: inflation about two and a half years ago. And in
Speaker 1: your column you referenced Senator Mike Lee of Utah, who's
Speaker 1: a great American who talks about should Congress and green
Speaker 1: new scam. And you have page after page, list after
Speaker 1: the list of the spending, all of which generates great inflation.
Speaker 1: When you dumbed trillions of dollars into the economy and
Speaker 1: there's a restriction of products, guess what, the price has
Speaker 1: got to go up. So what would you like to
Speaker 1: see happen in the first several months, which I think
Speaker 1: after the first three or four weeks, it's unbelievable. With
Speaker 1: the Trump term, I'm talking about clean energy production tax credit.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the Clean Energy Investment tax credit. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about EV tax credits. I'm talking about advanced manufacturing
Speaker 1: production tax credits. I'm talking about carbon oxide sequestration tax credits,
Speaker 1: the clean hydrogen production tax credit. I could go on
Speaker 1: and on and on. All this is in the Green
Speaker 1: new Scam. Explain that to the American people.
Speaker 10: Well, yeah, so Joe Biden passed the Green new Scam
Speaker 10: through a special legislative process called budget reconciliation. Was not
Speaker 10: subject to the filibusters, so all they needed was you know,
Speaker 10: fifty one votes, which they got through the help of
Speaker 10: you know, Joe Mansion. And so we're stuck with this
Speaker 10: trillion dollars worth of wasteful spending on all the things
Speaker 10: you just mentioned, and we've got to end it because
Speaker 10: it is it's contributing to inflation. It's making inflation worse.
Speaker 10: I mean, along with Joe Biden's Wargan's fossil fuels. I mean,
Speaker 10: this is you know, this is also driving up cost
Speaker 10: of energy, which is inflationary. And so we need to
Speaker 10: get rid of the Inflation Reduction Act, which is the
Speaker 10: underlying law. We could do it the same way that
Speaker 10: it was passed through budget reconciliation. Conveniently, President Trump is
Speaker 10: looking at one or two budget reconciliation packages sometime in
Speaker 10: the first half of the year. And you know, Republicans,
Speaker 10: if they have the courage and I have not been
Speaker 10: corrupted by the money, could make it easy for President
Speaker 10: Trump and just you know, repeal the entire Inflation Reduction
Speaker 10: Act and and all this wasteful spending. I'm hoping that
Speaker 10: will happen, but I'm not sure there's you know, President
Speaker 10: and Trump has a more difficult backup plan, which you're
Speaker 10: kind of seeing in action right now with Dose just
Speaker 10: going into these the agencies, finding the corrupt spending and saying,
Speaker 10: you know, Congress did an on ten for this money
Speaker 10: to be spent correctly. So there's two ways.
Speaker 3: There's a there's an easy way and hard way.
Speaker 10: And you know, I'm hoping Republicans in Congress don't make it,
Speaker 10: don't make President Trump have to do it the hard way.
Speaker 1: Stay the lawyer. In your column, you talk about a
Speaker 1: trillion dollars one point oh seven trillion dollars of the cost.
Speaker 1: The Clean Energy Production Tax Credit had a cost of
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty five billion. The Clean Energy Investment
Speaker 1: Tax Credit cost one hundred and ten billion. The EV
Speaker 1: tax Credits was three hundred and sixteen billion dollars out
Speaker 1: of the treasury. The carbon oxide Sequestration Tax Credit was
Speaker 1: sixty one billion. It goes on and on up to
Speaker 1: a up to a trillion dollars? Do you know how
Speaker 1: much money has been shoveled into the economy? Is there
Speaker 1: some money to capture? So when you say, like the
Speaker 1: Trumpster says, we're going to terminate the Green new scam,
Speaker 1: we're going to get rid of that, and you have
Speaker 1: terminate next to it. But how much money has already
Speaker 1: gone out the door? They can't be stopped?
Speaker 10: Well, it's hard to say. I think that those is
Speaker 10: trying to find that out right now. As of before
Speaker 10: the election, about one hundred and forty billion dollars had
Speaker 10: been wasted. And then of course after the election we
Speaker 10: all read about how the Biden administration has just been
Speaker 10: shoveling out money as fast as they can. Of course,
Speaker 10: a lot of that is you know, waste fraud abuse
Speaker 10: of course, as all Green New.
Speaker 3: Scam spending is.
Speaker 10: So there's you know, probably at least a couple hundred
Speaker 10: billion dollars has already been wasted. But President Trump could
Speaker 10: and could make sure that we never get to that
Speaker 10: trillion dollars spending. And you know, I think that everything
Speaker 10: has been frozen right now. There's no money going out.
Speaker 10: Of course, you know, we're going to have fights in
Speaker 10: the courts, and you know the left is going to
Speaker 10: forum shop final he's left wing judges to say what
Speaker 10: Trump is doing is somehow illegal and unconstitutional. But that's nonsense.
Speaker 10: I mean, it is not illegal for the president not
Speaker 10: to commit fraud.
Speaker 1: And as an attorney and former assistant ag in the
Speaker 1: state of Ohio, I respect courts, but there's about four
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty US district court judges. They do not
Speaker 1: conduct foreign policy, they do not conduct domestic spending. It's
Speaker 1: up to the President and the Congress to do that.
Speaker 1: And so when you have a federal judge in Rhode
Speaker 1: Island issuing orders against Donald Trump not to seek waste,
Speaker 1: fraud and abuse in USAID and don't go after them,
Speaker 1: I would hope to think of responsible judges at some
Speaker 1: point we get involved. We have one president popularly elected.
Speaker 1: We don't have four hundred district court federal judges issuing
Speaker 1: their own policies on the matter of EB tax credits.
Speaker 1: I noticed in the Wall Street Journal about two and
Speaker 1: a half weeks ago that Ford Motor Company lost last
Speaker 1: year in twenty twenty four five point one billion dollars.
Speaker 1: That's five thousand, one one hundred billion dollars. That's five
Speaker 1: point one billion on evs. Fortunately, the company made on
Speaker 1: combustion engines about five point six billion, so they're not
Speaker 1: had to tour to bankruptcy. And according to the according
Speaker 1: to Farley, who's the president CEO of Ford, he says
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five, we're gonna lose more money. And
Speaker 1: I'm thinking you got to be kidding me.
Speaker 10: Yeah, no, this green stuff has just made everybody crazy.
Speaker 10: And of course, you know, Ford is left led by leftists.
Speaker 10: They can't really do math, they don't want to do math.
Speaker 10: They just want to advance Leslie agenda. Ford lost. You
Speaker 10: know what that figure you mentioned, a five point one
Speaker 10: billion in losses works out to about seventeen thousand dollars
Speaker 10: per EV sold. What kind of businessman does it? Henry
Speaker 10: Ford would obviously never have done that. We have got
Speaker 10: to end the green new scam and all the climate
Speaker 10: hoax and all this green stuff. It has is gotten
Speaker 10: out of control. It's been out of control for a
Speaker 10: long time, and I think we're at the point. Look,
Speaker 10: we're thirty six trillion dollars in debt. We pay more
Speaker 10: than a trillion dollars in interest payments. Credit you know,
Speaker 10: essentially credit card debt every year. This this has got
Speaker 10: to end. And you know, I'm you know, it's going
Speaker 10: to be ugly in the news for a long time
Speaker 10: and we're going to have ugly court fights, but it's
Speaker 10: got to be done. You know, people are claiming that
Speaker 10: Trump is a Trump is a monarch and a king,
Speaker 10: and you know, Busnika, No, he's trying to save the country. Now,
Speaker 10: one day we're going to have to put the presidency,
Speaker 10: you know, cut the presidency back down the size and
Speaker 10: have constitutional government. But right now, we need to end
Speaker 10: this or we're going to be done.
Speaker 1: At your website, junk science dot com, you have a
Speaker 1: blog that say is wrong again. Fifty years have failed
Speaker 1: eco apocalyptic predictions, and you have you've come with the receipts.
Speaker 1: For example, in nineteen sixty seven in the Los Angeles Times,
Speaker 1: big story dire famine forecasted by nineteen seventy five, so
Speaker 1: they predicted eight years from nineteen sixty seven there would
Speaker 1: be dire famine. I'm reading the story. It is already
Speaker 1: too late for the world to avoid a long period
Speaker 1: of famine similar to the Dark Ages. A Stanford University
Speaker 1: climatologist said and it goes on. This story talks about
Speaker 1: within eight or nine years, we're going to be we're
Speaker 1: going to be ferreting, We're going to be eating grass,
Speaker 1: We're going to be in the woods eating leaves and bark.
Speaker 1: This is unbelievable. How'd that turn out?
Speaker 10: Yeah, So the guy that made that prediction is Paul Erlick. He's,
Speaker 10: you know, part of the National Academy of Sciences. So
Speaker 10: the left thinks he's really really smart. But of course
Speaker 10: he was completely wrong. I mean, you know, he said
Speaker 10: he predicted starvation, mass starvation by nineteen seventy five. Well,
Speaker 10: you know, let's fast forward to today. Since nineteen seventy five,
Speaker 10: the world's population has more than doubled. We have so
Speaker 10: much food we burn it for energy.
Speaker 1: We have so much food we throw away one third
Speaker 1: of whatever we order. Another story in New York Times,
Speaker 1: August tenth, nineteen sixty nine, pollution. A foe of pollution
Speaker 1: sees lack of time the trouble with almost all environmental problems,
Speaker 1: says Paul Erlik, who was an apostle of this stuff.
Speaker 1: He said, we must realize that unless we're extremely lucky,
Speaker 1: everyone will disappear in a cloud. Of blue steam in
Speaker 1: twenty years. So he said, by nineteen eighty nine, you
Speaker 1: and I would be in a cloud breathing into a
Speaker 1: critic and arsenic and that we would like evaporate. How'd
Speaker 1: that work out?
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think he said we would disappear at a
Speaker 10: cloud of blue steam. Well, these people are always wrong,
Speaker 10: They've been wrong for fifty years. And of course they
Speaker 10: have these because they rely on nutjobs. I mean Paul
Speaker 10: Arwick nutjob, Alexandria Kazia Cortez nut job, Greg Thurnberg, Grestenberg,
Speaker 10: nut job, Al Gore, nutjob, John Kerry nudjob. I mean,
Speaker 10: come on, what do you expect recall that? Just you know,
Speaker 10: within the past eighteen months, Joe Biden said that nuclear
Speaker 10: war is worse than global warming. I'm just sorry global
Speaker 10: warming is worse than nuclear wary.
Speaker 3: Come on, he's too crazy.
Speaker 1: How about this prediction from the Boston Globe of nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy nine, signs predicted a new ice age by the
Speaker 1: twenty first century. Experts say air pollution may obliterate the
Speaker 1: sun and cause a new ice age in the first
Speaker 1: third of the next century. James P. Lodge also warned
Speaker 1: that if the current rate of increase in electric power continues,
Speaker 1: we will be dark. There will be no electricity production.
Speaker 1: By the twenty first century, the demands for cooling water
Speaker 1: will boil dry. The entire flow of the rivers and
Speaker 1: streams of the continent the United States will all run dry.
Speaker 1: He also warned that by the next century we're in
Speaker 1: it now, the consumption of oxygen and combustion processes worldwide
Speaker 1: will surpass all the processes which return oxygen to the atmosphere.
Speaker 1: We will not be able to breathe. We may have
Speaker 1: to dig caves, live underground. According to Lodge A sign
Speaker 1: tists with the Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado, said Alaska
Speaker 1: and Auhi are already consuming more oxygen than their own
Speaker 1: green plants can replace. Therefore, we will die and the
Speaker 1: New Ice Age will arrive. You might recall in the
Speaker 1: late nineteen seventies that we had ice and snow everywhere,
Speaker 1: and time Newsweek magazine said the coming New Ice Age.
Speaker 1: How'd that prediction turn out?
Speaker 10: Yeah, So in the seventies they were worried about the
Speaker 10: ice age. Then when it started to warm up, it
Speaker 10: became global warming. But when the warming didn't really work out,
Speaker 10: it became climate change. And when the people saw there's
Speaker 10: no climate changes, it became extreme weather. And now we're
Speaker 10: at a point where, you know, seasonal weather, you know,
Speaker 10: winter weather in winter time is climate change?
Speaker 1: Not eve we're having climate change? Yeah, it's not. And
Speaker 1: how about us sciencest season? New ice age coming? This
Speaker 1: is another one. A government official says the world could
Speaker 1: be under already to fifty inches of snow in the
Speaker 1: next twenty to twenty five years, says doctor Raskell of
Speaker 1: the National Aeronautics and Space Administration clumb University. Within the
Speaker 1: next fifty years, the Arctic could could be essentially under
Speaker 1: one hundred feet of ice, and the Equator itself could
Speaker 1: be snow covered by the year twenty ten.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's only too bad that the people are aroused
Speaker 10: so that we can mock them, right, I mean, they
Speaker 10: should be on TV explaining themselves and you know, debunking
Speaker 10: all this all this apocalyptic thinking. You know, today's today's
Speaker 10: apocalyptics are all you know, they're not doing it because
Speaker 10: they're crazy. They're doing it because they're communists and they
Speaker 10: want us to surrender control of our lives and surrender
Speaker 10: our standard of living to them, you know, so I mean,
Speaker 10: at least those people were just wrong, But today's apocalyptics
Speaker 10: are not only they wrong, but they're evil.
Speaker 1: What are some of the apocalyptic terms being used today?
Speaker 1: You and I are around another fifty years and talk
Speaker 1: radio still exists, and your grandchildren are still around the
Speaker 1: the What are the predictions now and say twenty twenty
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five that are going to be wrong? For example,
Speaker 1: we're being told that Florida's going to be under about
Speaker 1: six feet of water, that the not an ice age,
Speaker 1: we're going to we're all going to boil to death,
Speaker 1: and that the oceans a rising, the temperatures are going up,
Speaker 1: and we're past the point at which that win out
Speaker 1: can control it. If we go past two degrees fahrenheit,
Speaker 1: two point five degrees fahrenheit is the point of no return.
Speaker 1: What does all that mean?
Speaker 10: Well, I don't know what you know, Unlike these people,
Speaker 10: I don't predict the future. I just it's just impossible.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 10: All I know is that everything they've ever predicted has
Speaker 10: been fault, has not come true. Their predictions are fake.
Speaker 10: They're not science. Nothing they say, nothing they predict is
Speaker 10: ever going to happen because they're always wrong. And they're
Speaker 10: wrong not because they may factual air. They're wrong because
Speaker 10: they're you know, driven by their policy agenda. And you know,
Speaker 10: I don't know what teacher holds. I mean, humanity has
Speaker 10: survived all sorts of slight climate change. And that's the
Speaker 10: only thing that can ever really happen, slight climate change
Speaker 10: unless there's a catastrophe like you know, nuclear war, you know,
Speaker 10: global nuclear war, or an asteroid hits something like that,
Speaker 10: you know, that could change the climate. But emissions, there's
Speaker 10: no evidence that emissions have had any effect, let alone
Speaker 10: a warming effect, let alone a harmful effect on our planet.
Speaker 1: Lastly, acid rain was a big thing about twenty five
Speaker 1: years ago, headlines all over the country. Acid rain kills
Speaker 1: light killed. I'm sorry, acid rain kills life in lakes.
Speaker 1: There's no the fisher are being killed all over Minnesota, Michigan.
Speaker 1: All the lakes are dying. Then about fifteen years later,
Speaker 1: the US government came out with a long study quote
Speaker 1: acid rain, no environmental impact study concludes, So we changed as.
Speaker 10: Another classic hoax. First off, all rain is a cynic
Speaker 10: It comes through the atmosphere, the water mixes with the
Speaker 10: carbon dioxide, and it's you know, and the other gases
Speaker 10: in the atmosphere, and so it's slightly acidic, but then
Speaker 10: when it falls to the ground, it gets neutralized. This
Speaker 10: is you know, and there's no evidence that the lakes
Speaker 10: or waterways became more city Today we hear about ocean acidification.
Speaker 10: There's no such thing happening. First off, the ocean is
Speaker 10: not acidifying. You know, maybe it's becoming slightly less basic,
Speaker 10: but you know, cleaning ocean is acidification is like saying
Speaker 10: that two is more negative than three.
Speaker 2: It's not.
Speaker 1: I mean, in the year two thousand and one, within
Speaker 1: twenty years the Malbes, the islands, and the Pacific two
Speaker 1: hundred thousand people should be under the ocean. Twenty five
Speaker 1: years later, there's been no rise whatsoever in the Maldives
Speaker 1: that they still exist. They're still doing quite well. And
Speaker 1: in fact, we had a dry summer. We've had kind
Speaker 1: of a cold winter, especially in the Midwest, weather's been terrible.
Speaker 1: But that's never an example. So give us the facts.
Speaker 1: We about two minutes reminding Steve Maloy junk science dot com,
Speaker 1: what are you what is the present thing? The fahrenheit thinking?
Speaker 10: You know, the most recent data shows that like ninety
Speaker 10: percent of them are actually increasing in size and increasing
Speaker 10: is not decreasing as far as I can tell.
Speaker 3: So there's there's no there there.
Speaker 10: I'm telling you. If these people are talking, they're.
Speaker 1: Lying, and they're doing it for power, positions and money.
Speaker 1: Look at what USA has found, which is millions of
Speaker 1: dollars handed out to think tanks to come to a
Speaker 1: defined conclusion that will drive public policy. And I think
Speaker 1: that's the key. They want a defined conclusion to drive
Speaker 1: public policy, which is always spending more money.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I can't wait for those gets over to EPA
Speaker 10: and the Department of Energy and Department of Interior and
Speaker 10: we can find out, you know, how much money has
Speaker 10: been wasted on not only crazy climate research and clean
Speaker 10: energy projects, but how much money has gone to these
Speaker 10: green activist groups. So the government is paying the green
Speaker 10: activist groups to lobby the government or you know, do
Speaker 10: other nefarious work to advance this lestling agenda. We need
Speaker 10: to learn about that.
Speaker 1: Lastly, quote, children won't know what snow is. That's the
Speaker 1: year two thousand that snow children have no idea what
Speaker 1: that is. Famine will be rampant, the skies will turn green,
Speaker 1: all of us will live underground. I'm not sure any
Speaker 1: of that is true. I see snow everywhere. But nonetheless,
Speaker 1: Steve mulloy once again junk science dot com. It's all there.
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, Steve, thank you.
Speaker 1: That's all free. God bless you. Thank you. Let's continue
Speaker 1: with more headline New York Times two thousand children won't
Speaker 1: know what snow is. Don't cunning him with you every
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Speaker 4: Oh, which side are you on? Which side are you on?
Speaker 3: Me?
Speaker 4: Which side are you on? Which side are you on?
Speaker 4: We'll fight on against Josh. We'll fight on me. No,
Speaker 4: we lanscap within our walls. We'll fight from dong to dusk.
Speaker 4: Which side are you on? Which side are you on? Me?
Speaker 4: Which side are you on? Which side are you on?
Speaker 4: Trump's comming for our unions.
Speaker 5: He wants us off to fame.
Speaker 4: He wants us to bow to him, But we want
Speaker 4: him in jail. Oh which side are you? Which side
Speaker 4: are you? Which side are you on? Which side are you?
Speaker 5: They say in the Capital City in this please you're
Speaker 5: red with This is Whoopy in the view singing We've
Speaker 5: just learned that.
Speaker 7: Joey Bayhart Jay Joy Bayharten The View, The View of
Speaker 7: the View five, the View?
Speaker 4: Five? Are you on, Joe take let it go to Trumps?
Speaker 1: Sounds like me in the car having got.
Speaker 2: Hello buyet and I'm I'm broadcasting you.
Speaker 3: Know, thank you.
Speaker 1: And I have to thank Rocky Boyman from putting that in.
Speaker 1: I know he's listening to that. Pocahontas five is one
Speaker 1: of the.
Speaker 7: As the View, backing her up as a backup singers
Speaker 7: like Gladys Knight and the Pips.
Speaker 11: Oh, I gotta says, Republicans may never lose again. I
Speaker 11: mean Trump has broken their brains severely, stuff like that,
Speaker 11: we lose again.
Speaker 1: Who is that really?
Speaker 11: Who is that?
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren? That's Pocahontas. Oh, he's an idiot? Well, no
Speaker 1: question idea. I think Bernie Sanders said, and Harry carry
Speaker 1: on the Capitol of them of stabbing themselves. All right,
Speaker 1: rock I don't know what to tell you but a
Speaker 1: couple issues. I think Philadelphia bookmakers lost well over one
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars along with the legal bookmakers lost tens
Speaker 1: of millions of dollars on the Eagles. And at this point,
Speaker 1: can the Bengals ever play like the Eagles played offensive
Speaker 1: defensive line. I know the quarterback position, the wide receivers, yets,
Speaker 1: but that team Sunday was unbelievable. The Eagles believe.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't see them assembling that kind of team,
Speaker 11: that kind of roster in the next year. A roster
Speaker 11: like that, as I went through on Monday, takes years
Speaker 11: and years of great drafting, not good, but great drafting.
Speaker 11: You stockpile that great talent, you identify it, you cultivate it,
Speaker 11: you get it on your team, and over the years
Speaker 11: it adds up, and then you go and get a
Speaker 11: couple of pieces that you don't have, you spend big.
Speaker 4: Money on it.
Speaker 11: Right now, I just don't see how you assemble a
Speaker 11: roster of even close to that caliber and one year
Speaker 11: of free agency and draft.
Speaker 1: I think the only player on the offensive defensive line
Speaker 1: I could even play with the Eagles might be Hendrickson.
Speaker 1: That's about it.
Speaker 11: I think Hendrickson would they would add him to the
Speaker 11: defensive line corps, to that rotation.
Speaker 7: Other than that, I don't see it. I'd like to
Speaker 7: have a couple of those guys on the offensive whig
Speaker 7: what average six to eight, three hundred and thirty eight
Speaker 7: pounds or something like that. Yeah, I'm thinking Joe Burrow
Speaker 7: wouldn't get his uniform here.
Speaker 11: Did you see a Super Bowl one Kansas City Chiefs
Speaker 11: offensive line averaged I think it was like six two
Speaker 11: forty five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like me over one hundred pounds on all. And
Speaker 1: then their defensive line is like real, real deal. It'd
Speaker 1: be like Fuzzy Thurst. And you also had Forrest greg
Speaker 1: was there and that was completely completely different. They were
Speaker 1: like six inches taller, one hundred pounds heavier, and a
Speaker 1: lot of it wasn't fat segment. A lot of it
Speaker 1: wasn't fat segment. Get us into the Studge report.
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Speaker 7: Will he let's the Reds continue workouts position players that
Speaker 7: are not in camp.
Speaker 1: They better be there by Saturday.
Speaker 7: Cactus League opener week from Saturday against the Guardians. They have,
Speaker 7: they have, they have officially signed reliever Scott Barlow and
Speaker 7: his long hair and the sixty day injured list Louder
Speaker 7: no right handed pitcher Julian Aggie are with a right elbow.
Speaker 7: He underwent Tommy John surgery last October. Not good Rett
Speaker 7: Louder is pitching. According to Brad Metter last night on
Speaker 7: the Hot Stove League, they're bringing him along nice and
Speaker 7: easy and everything else.
Speaker 1: So it's you know, he could be you segment is
Speaker 1: way about six starters. He could be one of the six.
Speaker 1: Well that's true.
Speaker 7: And then if if he if he, if he can't
Speaker 7: make it and starts in Louisville, then I guess what
Speaker 7: Graham Ashcraft moves in or somebody else moves in.
Speaker 1: Something like that. Now, Rocky, what happens here? We are
Speaker 1: almost Valentine's Day tomorrow and the college football is out
Speaker 1: for the last two or three weeks, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, brand new teams Ohio State UK and if
Speaker 1: Xavier ever has football. I talked to Bob Cole. Hep,
Speaker 1: you're going to be the head coaches football teach that
Speaker 1: offers still stands, yes, Well, what is someone like Freeman
Speaker 1: do now here. It is February, March, and April getting
Speaker 1: ready for the spring games that may not happen because
Speaker 1: you don't want to showcase your talent. So what do
Speaker 1: you do in college football right now? I say, over
Speaker 1: the next one?
Speaker 11: Well right now, and this has been happening more so
Speaker 11: the last couple of years. You're flying around the country
Speaker 11: and you're meeting with the people that have the dough,
Speaker 11: the ray and the mee to donate to your NIL
Speaker 11: fund so you can sign the players.
Speaker 1: So you're recruiting.
Speaker 11: You're flying around the country meeting with the big wigs,
Speaker 11: folks like yourself that are going to donate the big
Speaker 11: money to get the players, because that's what matters, having
Speaker 11: the money and to get the players.
Speaker 1: They're not recruiting. Are they recruiting their own team?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, I mean yeah, that that takes place too.
Speaker 11: You got to go and most of the coaches now
Speaker 11: that I've spoken to, said that they like. Throughout the season,
Speaker 11: you're getting a gauge of Okay, which guys do we
Speaker 11: think are gonna come back? And which guys do we
Speaker 11: think are gonna leave? Then you have meetings with guys
Speaker 11: and some of those guys you tell them, you know what,
Speaker 11: you should leave. We don't need you here anymore. And
Speaker 11: you know, we just can't have you because you're dead weight, okay.
Speaker 11: And then there's some guys you say, hey, we want
Speaker 11: to have you back, and then that player says, okay,
Speaker 11: I want to come back, coach, but I'm going to
Speaker 11: need an extra hundred thousand dollars or two hundred thousand
Speaker 11: dollars because LSU's offered me this. So then you get
Speaker 11: on the phone and you call the money guy and say, hey,
Speaker 11: he's gonna do this. So then you go back and
Speaker 11: you tell the player and he says, okay, that's fine.
Speaker 11: Well I just talk to other college and they said
Speaker 11: they would put three hundred thousand on top of that.
Speaker 11: He said, okay, hold on, I'll call you right back.
Speaker 11: And then you call your money guy again, Sara, they're
Speaker 11: gonna give us three hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Can can we match it at four? And then you
Speaker 1: come back and it goes back.
Speaker 11: And forth, back and forth like that with like you know, ten,
Speaker 11: fifteen to twenty different players, and somewhere along the line,
Speaker 11: you coach these guys. Not sure when that happens, but
Speaker 11: you got to get the players, and they all they
Speaker 11: care about is the money there when.
Speaker 1: The Bengals next week, I'm thinking, you couldn't get a
Speaker 1: tattoo and not be suspended for life. Back for Ohio State.
Speaker 1: They got a tattoo. Yeah, now he's a lieutenant governor.
Speaker 1: They ran him out right, Jim Trestle, they did. You
Speaker 1: got to get him on, Willie. I got him on
Speaker 1: the off. We asked him this, Willie, this's a serious question.
Speaker 11: With all the success of DOGE at the federal level,
Speaker 11: can we institute DOGE at the state level. I have
Speaker 11: to imagine there's lots and lots and lots of waste
Speaker 11: at the state level.
Speaker 1: Can we get some people in there.
Speaker 11: Can Jim Trestle appoint somebody to find that waste and
Speaker 11: get the money back to the people so it goes
Speaker 11: in the pockets of the people, the people, not out
Speaker 11: of state.
Speaker 1: Willie. I want to produce taxes. And how about the
Speaker 1: Limestone mind that was put together in the nineteen fifties
Speaker 1: with a few hundred federal employees underground in a limestone mine.
Speaker 1: They processed retirement and a linemon in paper from the
Speaker 1: nineteen fifties and it still operates to the tune of
Speaker 1: about forty million dollars a year to operate a limestone
Speaker 1: mine in which federal workers retire and the paperwork is
Speaker 1: done underground. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, Onen Ohio, Dogen, Ohile, Let's go. I call it
Speaker 1: Doggie get Doggy segment. Please continue? Will he?
Speaker 7: Those Cincinnati Bearcats are on the road to Saturday facing
Speaker 7: off against tenth rate at Iowa State preview the Big
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Speaker 7: Talk right here on seven hundred wlw xavor with a
Speaker 7: big win last night at Providence, Dayton wins and so
Speaker 7: everybody's happy.
Speaker 1: High school sports going to metastasize. What happened to the
Speaker 1: Moller High school basketball team? What happened to the Santex
Speaker 1: basketball team?
Speaker 4: Rock?
Speaker 1: Do you care about basketball? I was actually there.
Speaker 11: I witnessed Saint Xavier beat Moulder for the GCL title,
Speaker 11: the first out right gCO titles basketball about twenty five yeah,
Speaker 11: twenty five years.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was they beat him bad. Yeah. It was
Speaker 1: like forty five easily has the top team in the
Speaker 1: region and they could buy for state although I think
Speaker 1: West I got Lakota West coming on in about two
Speaker 1: or three weeks. But right now I can't imagine Carl
Speaker 1: Kramer is his Savannah when it comes to basketball. And
Speaker 1: when your senior team at Muller High School scores like
Speaker 1: twenty three points in the game, that's not good.
Speaker 10: No, no, no.
Speaker 11: By the way, tonight, Willie is the Saint Xavier Hall
Speaker 11: of Fame banquet. There will be five new names added
Speaker 11: to the hallowed halls of the Saint Xavier Hall of Fame.
Speaker 11: Michael Hall, Andy Kendrick, Pat Muldoune, Scott Murr, Scott Smith
Speaker 11: and the one the only e d number four four
Speaker 11: Davis number forty four will be in the house to
Speaker 11: roll up the crowd.
Speaker 1: Good man, Now what about the rock? Are you in
Speaker 1: the Sandex Hall of Fame yet? I am yes, I
Speaker 1: went in in eight. It's not legit them unless you're
Speaker 1: in the first class, would you agree, segment? If you're
Speaker 1: not in the first class, well that's the school forty six.
Speaker 1: Thank you. It's not like you you went. I went
Speaker 1: into Deer Park in eighteen ninety four, nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 1: Surely after a minute grant passed away. You went into
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. When when would Deer Park open? Well,
Speaker 1: it was in the nineteen twenties Hall of Fame until
Speaker 1: they couldn't get five names together till nineteen Night High School,
Speaker 1: which honestly is not the strongest academic institution in the
Speaker 1: Tri State. What the yeah?
Speaker 10: What was that?
Speaker 1: Nil action Audio? I'll take the best at Deer Park.
Speaker 1: I also Willy, also Willie.
Speaker 7: We want to say another happy birthday to the one
Speaker 7: and only Olga Lark and today turning ninety seven, work
Speaker 7: still working at Ron's roost. So go there and eat tonight.
Speaker 7: Wish your happy birthday. Just stop by and say a
Speaker 7: happy birthday? Or you know what, would you drive by
Speaker 7: on Race Road? Honk your horn when you drive by?
Speaker 1: Ninety seven She started off at Walt's Hitching Posts, where
Speaker 1: she met a guy. A customer named Ron Larkin kept
Speaker 1: bothering her for a date, and alg would say, I
Speaker 1: don't have time for that. I'm working too hard, And
Speaker 1: then Buddy L. Rosa came by. At some point she
Speaker 1: looked at Buddy L. Rose that this is going back
Speaker 1: like seventy years and said, this Larkin character will be
Speaker 1: better than Buddy L. Rosa. She took Larkin over LaRose.
Speaker 1: Your comments, Rock, seg give me some more sports. That's
Speaker 1: all I got. Go ahead, that's all I got. All right,
Speaker 1: segue Rock. What's on the big show coming up in
Speaker 1: about ten minutes. Right out of the gate, we have
Speaker 1: Jason Taylor.
Speaker 11: Not that Jason Taylor, the famous defensive end for the
Speaker 11: Miami Dolphins, but Jason W.
Speaker 1: Taylor is an expert on small business.
Speaker 11: The economy's starting to get cranked back up. Things are
Speaker 11: opening up. Things are starting to be good, besides for
Speaker 11: the egg situation. But they can't find workers. Restaurants can't
Speaker 11: find workers, they can't show up. They won't show up,
Speaker 11: was the deal. We'll talk to Jason about that. Four o'clock,
Speaker 11: Eddie and I are gonna have our annual Rock and
Speaker 11: Roll Hall of Fame discussion. The nominees have been yes,
Speaker 11: have been put out there See Bad Company, The Black Crows,
Speaker 11: Mariah Carey, Chubby Checker, Joe Cocker, Billy Idol, Joy Division,
Speaker 11: Cindy Laupermna, whatever that is, Oasis, Outcast Fish, Soundgarden, and
Speaker 11: the White Stripes are all nominees.
Speaker 1: Who goes in? Who doesn't go in? Eddie and I
Speaker 1: will outscast. Hey, y'all goes in. You know, Chubby Checker
Speaker 1: did the first Trump dance. He predicted Trump about sixty
Speaker 1: years ago with the twist. Now I start dancing the
Speaker 1: Trump dance, I look like I'm doing the twist. Let's
Speaker 1: twist again like we did last summer. I can't believe
Speaker 1: he's not in there yet. We said the same thing.
Speaker 11: But fun fact of all those bands that I just
Speaker 11: bands and singers that I just rattled off right there,
Speaker 11: and some big names, right Mariah Carey sold a lot
Speaker 11: of albums. The guy on that list who's sold the
Speaker 11: most albums Chubby Checker two hundred and fifty million.
Speaker 1: He had the number one single of the entire.
Speaker 11: Decade of the nineteen sixties, and he went number one
Speaker 11: two different times in the nineteen sixties with that song.
Speaker 1: Let's Twist again like we did last summer. You and
Speaker 1: Penny used to do the twist that song back in
Speaker 1: the day. I don't do the twist with her as
Speaker 1: much as I used to. No story segment, Get me
Speaker 1: out of the student's report. Please didn't answer his question? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is the question? What's the question? I like the twist? Well,
Speaker 1: I had honor of a beautiful day.
Speaker 7: You're in a tri state, but cold, and maybe the
Speaker 7: Trumpster says reciprocal tariffs could.
Speaker 1: Be killing him. Let's give it to him. That's we
Speaker 1: leave you with the immortal words of the stewed report.
Speaker 3: Denis, he's a good man.
Speaker 1: That's Jim Trussell. Right there you go. Thank you, Lieutenant
Speaker 1: Governor Doge. I got Doge tomorrow. Jim. We had Mike
Speaker 1: Dwine today, crapping all over marijuana. Doesn't like marijuana. Wants
Speaker 1: to make it so high in taxes, nobody'll buy it legally.
Speaker 1: They're gonna apply to illegally. We've taken a billion dollars
Speaker 1: out of the drug market, illegal drug mark, and put
Speaker 1: it in the legal market. Now the politicians want to
Speaker 1: scrub that clean. It gets me all fired up once again. Guys,
Speaker 1: thank you. Let's continue with more News Radio seven l