Speaker 1: Welcome to the five o'clock show. It's time for common Sense.
Speaker 1: Now it's Kats and Gosby with John Kassimatids and Rita
Speaker 1: Gosby standing for truth, justice and the American Way bringing
Speaker 1: common sense to the world. Now here's John Katsimatids and
Speaker 1: Rita Gosby breaking news w ABC.
Speaker 2: Well we are back and well there's so many things
Speaker 2: going on today and in the studio with us today
Speaker 2: we have Ed Coxy New York State Chairman and mister Chairman.
Speaker 2: Good to see you. I saw you for breakfast, I
Speaker 2: saw you for lunch, but it's good to see you.
Speaker 2: Judge Richard Weinberg, I saw you for breakfast, and Mystery
Speaker 2: for lunch, but here I am now and Mischief for lunch.
Speaker 2: And we have Governor David Pattison and the Governor. Always
Speaker 2: good to have you here.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 4: And by the way, you got to tell everybody why
Speaker 4: you guys were together for breakfast. It's not like you
Speaker 4: just were meeting for you know, apple jacks or something.
Speaker 2: Well, and we had over our friends Eric Levine's legal office.
Speaker 2: We had a bunch of people and we met with
Speaker 2: the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, and it was great.
Speaker 2: It was a very interesting meeting. And for the first
Speaker 2: time ever, the GOP Congress is raising more money than
Speaker 2: the d n C Congress.
Speaker 4: Quite a bit.
Speaker 2: What does that mean, I want? Well, the GOP chairman
Speaker 2: of New York was here with us, and you were
Speaker 2: there the breakfast teller. Tell us what you mean.
Speaker 5: And what Speaker Johnson said was new York will make
Speaker 5: the difference. We can win four seats, four congressional seats
Speaker 5: here in New York November.
Speaker 2: Well, we want common sense to prevail. And he also
Speaker 2: said breaking News that he thinks that the besides the
Speaker 2: money that the GOP is raising, that President Trump is
Speaker 2: going to put up three hundred million dollars from his
Speaker 2: fund to make sure the Congress days with the GOP there.
Speaker 5: We only want to win six seats, four here in
Speaker 5: New York and we get the majority, we keep the
Speaker 5: majority in the House.
Speaker 4: Wow, that is interesting, guys. And by the way, the
Speaker 4: other big story today, breaking news on the other big story.
Speaker 6: Freaking news WABC.
Speaker 4: Well, the other big story is this woman who was
Speaker 4: arrested for allegedly plotting New York State capital attack. And boy,
Speaker 4: oh boy, this is so scary. And what is your
Speaker 4: take on this. This woman thirty five years old, Jessica Bowie,
Speaker 4: and she had pledged allegiance to ISIS and was planning
Speaker 4: to blow up the state capital and also was planning
Speaker 4: to attack legislators and was so scary. And we're going
Speaker 4: to be hearing in just a moment from the US
Speaker 4: Attorney John Sarcone. Yeah, the first Assistant US Attorney is
Speaker 4: his official title for the Northern District.
Speaker 2: And I saw him. He was on television before he
Speaker 2: was the FBI from alban He was on television. And
Speaker 2: this is the biggest story of the day.
Speaker 4: It by far is that he's going to be joining moment,
Speaker 4: not yet, but he's going to be joining us in
Speaker 4: a moment. John, but ed talk about the want to think.
Speaker 5: Like a blow up the capitol has to be crazy.
Speaker 2: They wanted to blow up the capitol.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've read New York Capital all right.
Speaker 2: Now calling in right now is the first Assistant US
Speaker 2: Attorney in the Northern District, Northern District of New York,
Speaker 2: John saw Cone. John, give us an update. Who is
Speaker 2: crazy enough to want to blow up the capitol?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 7: John, thank you, h you and to have me on
Speaker 7: And I think that this is a matter that should
Speaker 7: be discussed and not forgotten.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 7: This individual had been radicalized U to US citizen radicalize
Speaker 7: UH sometime last year and had been plotting with who
Speaker 7: she believed to be Isis UH to blow up the
Speaker 7: capital and starting more startling is not United States, but
Speaker 7: the state senators. She wanted to assassinate the state senators.
Speaker 2: You know what that sounds like as bad as when
Speaker 2: they wanted that that UH airplane to fly directly into
Speaker 2: the capital.
Speaker 7: Well she uh, definitely. UH. Let's put it this way, John,
Speaker 7: As I said in the press conference, this, this arrest
Speaker 7: and prosecution will send a chilling effect out there to
Speaker 7: all of our enemies foreign and domestic that we are watching.
Speaker 7: We are vigilant. We are not going to allow this
Speaker 7: to happen here in our soil, and especially when we're
Speaker 7: getting close to the twenty fifth anniversary of nine to eleven.
Speaker 4: You know, mister US Attorney. And when I sat there
Speaker 4: and I was I was watching your press conference today,
Speaker 4: I was gripping, And what was really troubling to me
Speaker 4: was to hear the background. This was not you know,
Speaker 4: and you know it better than anybody. Sometimes these people
Speaker 4: plot and you don't know how far this woman went
Speaker 4: to the effort of surveilling the Capitol at least five times.
Speaker 4: She bought explosive materials, she bought a gun, She talked
Speaker 4: about wanting to do as much damage to legislators, to police.
Speaker 4: This was a real, planned, methodical attack, and she was
Speaker 4: she was definitely in the works, right. I mean, this
Speaker 4: was really scary.
Speaker 7: But no doubt about it, Rita. And you know, I
Speaker 7: have to say thank thanks to the FBI and this office.
Speaker 7: We did this in a month, where typically these investigations
Speaker 7: could go on and on and on, but when I
Speaker 7: got here as the US attorney, I changed that model.
Speaker 7: I said, we don't have the luxury of long term investigations.
Speaker 7: Once we're onto something, we need to aggressively pursue it.
Speaker 7: And I do want to say for the public in
Speaker 7: general here in the Capitol region, there was not one
Speaker 7: second that she was not under surveillance twenty four hours
Speaker 7: a day, seven days a week.
Speaker 2: So you felt you had it under control and nothing
Speaker 2: could go wrong at.
Speaker 7: That point, absolutely, John. I just wanted to say, you
Speaker 7: know a couple of things that she is quoted as saying.
Speaker 7: One is quote, praise be to Allah, for September eleventh.
Speaker 2: End.
Speaker 6: Quote.
Speaker 7: Wow, I can't get any more more wicked than that.
Speaker 7: And anybody who is who is grateful or thinks that
Speaker 7: nine to eleven was something that was deserved, I would say,
Speaker 7: check your citizenship at the door and go someplace else.
Speaker 2: I hope they don't have citizenship. They should lose their
Speaker 2: citizenship if they if they're performing those kinds of acts. Now,
Speaker 2: let me ask you one more quick question. I'm not
Speaker 2: I'm not sure you're allowed to talk about it. We
Speaker 2: heard that there's a big investigation going on on voting
Speaker 2: patterns in the city of New York.
Speaker 7: Well, John, as you know, I cannot confirm or deny
Speaker 7: any ongoing investigations whatsoever, but I can tell you that, uh,
Speaker 7: this Justice Department is is laser focused on routing out
Speaker 7: election fraud in every corner. And you just saw the
Speaker 7: Deputy Attorney General, Harmy Dillon had announced that there will
Speaker 7: be a thousand monitors that are going to be dispatched
Speaker 7: to monitor the mid term elections. So rest assured this
Speaker 7: office is laser focused on protecting the integrity of our
Speaker 7: of our democracy and our ballots understood.
Speaker 2: And that's the number one thing because if you know
Speaker 2: eighty percent of the people poth whether the Democrats, Republicans,
Speaker 2: are independents, say they need voter ID. And if people
Speaker 2: are are doing the wrong things and the citizens and
Speaker 2: the American people deserve to know about.
Speaker 7: It, no question about it. It just makes no sense
Speaker 7: to me why voter I D should not be implemented
Speaker 7: in anybody who's against voter ID. You have to you know,
Speaker 7: think about that. Your intennas have to go up. Why, well,
Speaker 7: you have to voter ID. You have to have ID
Speaker 7: for everything in this country. So what the main thing
Speaker 7: that that separates this country from every other country in
Speaker 7: the world. No, you don't need ID.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for calling in this Thursday night,
Speaker 2: my god, it's almost the weekend. Thank you so much,
Speaker 2: and thank you for your service, and thank you for
Speaker 2: everything you're doing for our state. And I hope the
Speaker 2: Senate confirms you so you could be the full US attorney.
Speaker 7: Well, thank you John, thank you Rita, and thank you
Speaker 7: to your audience. We are all in this together.
Speaker 2: So and the President might be listening to this show
Speaker 2: right now because he's coming on the show a little
Speaker 2: bit after six o'clock.
Speaker 7: President is our great leader and we have a great
Speaker 7: Attorney General and that's why we are talking today because
Speaker 7: of that leadership.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you for all you do. Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: It's great to have you here. Thank you, thank you,
Speaker 4: thank you, and you guys. Further talking about this story,
Speaker 4: we have New York State Senator George Burrello who's joining
Speaker 4: US Senator Burrello. This is chilling because this woman, as
Speaker 4: we were just hearing from the first assistant US Attorney there,
Speaker 4: John Sarcone, is that this woman, thirty five year old
Speaker 4: Jessica Bowie, she said, I'm going to attack the capital
Speaker 4: and I want to attack legislators. I mean this was
Speaker 4: very are you frightening?
Speaker 9: Yes, absolutely, you know we were seeing the reports and
Speaker 9: I want to first thank the FBI for their fantastic
Speaker 9: work and you know, apprehending this woman. But this is
Speaker 9: a woman who converted to Islam and pledged her support
Speaker 9: to isis about five years ago.
Speaker 10: She you know, she went.
Speaker 9: Through the process of acquiring everything to make bombs and
Speaker 9: then what she thought was a handgun that she was
Speaker 9: buying from the undercover FBI agent. So this woman wanted
Speaker 9: to kill, she said, one hundred senators and destroy as
Speaker 9: much of the building as possible, then she wanted to
Speaker 9: escape to Syria. This is an Albany resident, a mind standing,
Speaker 9: an American citizen who has become radicalized.
Speaker 10: Here.
Speaker 9: It just shows you, you know, the the amount of
Speaker 9: danger out there with people like this, very very very
Speaker 9: frightening and hopefully very sobering for the people of New
Speaker 9: York State and Judge Weinberg.
Speaker 3: So, George, I had the occasion I read the FBI
Speaker 3: Afford David in support of this, and this woman not
Speaker 3: only did all that homework and the research, she looked
Speaker 3: up what the law was and what her legal exposure
Speaker 3: was if she got caught, and she referenceds so I
Speaker 3: know I'm facing at least twenty years in jail. So
Speaker 3: she know only and willfully did this. George, It's absolutely
Speaker 3: preposterous to think that somebody would do that. But I
Speaker 3: want to ask you this question. You deal with your
Speaker 3: fellow legislators up there, and you have a lot of
Speaker 3: the Democrats who've been apologists for these radical extremists. How
Speaker 3: do they feel about getting blown up in the same
Speaker 3: building with the people who don't agree with their politics.
Speaker 3: Everyone they blow up buildings like that, They take out
Speaker 3: everybody Independence, Democrats, Republicans, school children on a tour. What
Speaker 3: do your thoughts about that, George, Well.
Speaker 9: Look, these people are anti American, and unfortunately, we have
Speaker 9: people that have won primaries in particularly in New York
Speaker 9: City that have the same anti American values that will
Speaker 9: be members of the legislature sitting in that chamber. And
Speaker 9: that is the most frightening part. I'm also grateful that
Speaker 9: she's being charged federally because, you know, believe it or not,
Speaker 9: until recently, when bail reform was put in place, several
Speaker 9: terrorist charges were not bail eligible, and there's still one
Speaker 9: that is not bail eligible right now, making a terroristic threat.
Speaker 9: So thank goodness, this was a federal operation. She's thirty
Speaker 9: five years old. And if the Democrats in this next
Speaker 9: session pushed the bill that they've wanted to push for
Speaker 9: a long time elder parole, this woman, if she wasn't
Speaker 9: charged federally, would be eligible for parole in twenty years
Speaker 9: at the age of fifty five. That's the kind of
Speaker 9: laws that the Democrats and Almaney are passing. So I
Speaker 9: hope this wakes them up. I hope this is a
Speaker 9: sobering for them that we need to we need to
Speaker 9: protect the people of New York State first and foremost,
Speaker 9: and not put politics in front of public safety.
Speaker 4: You know, Santra Barrella. One of the other things I
Speaker 4: found so chilling about what when they were laying out
Speaker 4: what they had on this woman, the information her, and
Speaker 4: it was in writing, and she's on video, you know,
Speaker 4: talking about all all this and planning to blow up.
Speaker 4: Her plan was to carry out this attack on the
Speaker 4: New York State legislature of what you're a part of.
Speaker 4: There was to do that, then to flee to Syria
Speaker 4: and then come back. And she said, if I can
Speaker 4: get away with it, then my plan is to try
Speaker 4: the White House or New Year's Eve Times Square.
Speaker 9: This woman was crazy, Yes, absolutely, and unfortunately she's probably
Speaker 9: not the only one like this out there that has
Speaker 9: become radicalized, you know. And it just shows you the
Speaker 9: impact of this anti American sentiment. You know, I remember
Speaker 9: not that long ago, when you know, some of the
Speaker 9: words of Osama bin Laden were circulating around on social
Speaker 9: media and young people who weren't even alive when nine
Speaker 9: to eleven occurred, were embracing his anti American rhetoric. So
Speaker 9: this is a very serious situation and We have a
Speaker 9: lot of people out there, including elected officials that you know,
Speaker 9: have questioned, uh, you know, the the validation of the
Speaker 9: United States, our system of government, and the in our
Speaker 9: American way of life. And this should hopefully open some eyes.
Speaker 9: You know, look at this one was obviously severely mentally
Speaker 9: deranged and evil, there's no question about it.
Speaker 10: But she is not unique. I can guarantee you.
Speaker 3: That, George, I respectfully filed the centing opinion. Let me
Speaker 3: tell you, as a retired Supreme Court justice, she fits
Speaker 3: the legal definition of sanity. She knowingly and willfully did this.
Speaker 3: She knew the natural and probable consequences of her actions,
Speaker 3: and she's not legally insane. And so if they try
Speaker 3: to give a defense that she's insane, it's wrong. It
Speaker 3: should be thrown out. This woman knew exactly what she did,
Speaker 3: which is why I made the point that she researched
Speaker 3: the law, and she knew exactly that it was wrong,
Speaker 3: and she planned anyway.
Speaker 4: And she planned her getaway too, right.
Speaker 3: So there was so George for the first time, and
Speaker 3: I was spectful relationship. I dissent.
Speaker 4: We're writing that down, George.
Speaker 9: Yes, and Judge, I hope you're right.
Speaker 10: I'm happy to be wrong. And look I am.
Speaker 9: I am grateful that the federal government is handling this,
Speaker 9: and I hopefully would you know the Department of Justice
Speaker 9: hand this.
Speaker 10: This one will never see the light of day again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank god, thank god. We also have Governor David
Speaker 4: Patterson here.
Speaker 11: Well, Senator, I'll tell you what, I'll try to break
Speaker 11: the tie here. As long as she knew the difference
Speaker 11: between right and wrong, then I have to give this
Speaker 11: one to Judge Weinberg.
Speaker 4: Oh, I gotta say with them, you're gonna give him
Speaker 4: a big as she's going to cost.
Speaker 3: Me at lunch or dinner it is.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4: I mean she's metaphorically crazy. Whether legally that's a whole
Speaker 4: other issue. We all agree on that, right, we all
Speaker 4: agree on that, all concur, We all concur. You know
Speaker 4: what's so scary, George? You hit a powerful point about
Speaker 4: how many others are like that. One of the things
Speaker 4: I found really chilling. And we just heard from the
Speaker 4: first Assistant US Attorney, John Sarcone, who was talking about
Speaker 4: how she said Praise be to Allah about nine to eleven.
Speaker 4: Here we're heading into the twenty fifth anniversary. I mean,
Speaker 4: this is really scary. And one of the things from
Speaker 4: the press conference, she told the source that she started
Speaker 4: out as a young girl who is a flag waving
Speaker 4: pro America young gal, and then got converted, and she said,
Speaker 4: got radicalized online to the point where she was putting
Speaker 4: nine to eleven stickers, like, you know, I want to
Speaker 4: go after what happened here was a good thing. So
Speaker 4: what's so scary is how many others are like that
Speaker 4: that we're flag raving, that are getting it now online.
Speaker 4: And as we're approaching a very somber anniversary, this is
Speaker 4: chilling absolutely well.
Speaker 9: You know, I'm reminded of the words of Ronald Reagan
Speaker 9: where he said that our freedom is never more than
Speaker 9: one generation from extinction. And here we are twenty five years,
Speaker 9: which is the technical definition for a generation from the
Speaker 9: events of nine to eleven.
Speaker 10: And we have people now in.
Speaker 9: The New York State government and people that will be
Speaker 9: lawmakers in Albany that believe that nine to eleven was
Speaker 9: America's fault. That tells you how much has changed in
Speaker 9: literally one generation. So I hope we heed the words
Speaker 9: of Ronald Reagan and we push back against this and
Speaker 9: we remind people that this is the greatest nation on earth,
Speaker 9: and that New York State is certainly the epicenter of
Speaker 9: so many I think good things, but we've lost our
Speaker 9: way in so many ways. We need to restore our
Speaker 9: faith in America and certainly remind everyone in America, particularly
Speaker 9: here in New York State, that this is a great
Speaker 9: and righteous nation that has sent its children around the
Speaker 9: world to defend liberty for another reason as to bring
Speaker 9: liberty and freedom to others. That's the America that I
Speaker 9: know and respect, and that's what was attacked on nine
Speaker 9: to eleven.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent. We must stand together on that. Thank
Speaker 4: you so much, Thank you, New York State Senator George BURRELLO.
Speaker 4: Thank you. Great to have you. Thank you. Yeah, the
Speaker 4: great county right, that was good, Thank you, thank you
Speaker 4: so much. Thank you. And John we have now with us.
Speaker 2: Oh, the famous and great Kat mcfalland and tomorrow morning
Speaker 2: you should come to breakfast again and we have.
Speaker 4: A Saturday morning.
Speaker 2: But kt there's so many things going on. I don't
Speaker 2: know if the zigg or the zags, So tell us
Speaker 2: if we should be zigging or zagging.
Speaker 8: You should just be steady and hold the course. President
Speaker 8: Trump knows exactly what he's doing with Iran, and it's
Speaker 8: hard to be patient. America is our worst attribute, right,
Speaker 8: We're always impatient about everything. But we need to be
Speaker 8: patient about Iran because Iran is going to collapse. Their
Speaker 8: economy is in free fall, and every day, every week
Speaker 8: is getting worse and worse and worse. And there is
Speaker 8: some point, and I don't know if it's next week,
Speaker 8: next month, three months from now. The Iranian people are
Speaker 8: just going to not tolerate it.
Speaker 10: Now.
Speaker 8: I don't think that it's going to be a public
Speaker 8: outcross and demonstrations that are going to topple the government.
Speaker 8: My guess is that the government will topple from within,
Speaker 8: like a palace coup of currents call a colonel's revolution,
Speaker 8: where the colonels, whether they're in the military, the mid
Speaker 8: tier people in the military, or in government, or in
Speaker 8: the religious establishment, they just say enough is enough. We
Speaker 8: don't want to condemn our country in ninety million people
Speaker 8: to a generation of extreme poverty and destitution. We're going
Speaker 8: to cut a deal with the United States.
Speaker 4: Well, let's hope that happens soon.
Speaker 5: Ed Cock KT, what can we do in order to
Speaker 5: encourage that kind of a colonel's action.
Speaker 8: Well, presumably we're working behind the scenes US intelligence and
Speaker 8: intelligence of our golf Arab allies that we're working with
Speaker 8: people with inside of a run. I mean to me,
Speaker 8: it's very similar add to what happened in the Cold
Speaker 8: War and how we won the Cold War. It was
Speaker 8: Ronald Reagan had a strangulation theory and Ana Konda theory
Speaker 8: slowly surely strangle them economically. And the Cold War it
Speaker 8: was pushing them into an arms race that they couldn't
Speaker 8: compete with, and massive defense spending which screwed up their economy.
Speaker 8: It was shutting them out of the international banking system.
Speaker 8: It was getting our golf Arab allies to pump a
Speaker 8: lot more oil to thereby lower the global price of
Speaker 8: oil and thereby lower Iran's revenues, I mean, sorry, Russia's revenues.
Speaker 8: And then when Russia had a grain crisis, that was
Speaker 8: at the point at which the Russian government knew they
Speaker 8: couldn't feed their people, so they had they had to
Speaker 8: you know, the Soviet Union collapse, and they kind to
Speaker 8: deal with us on our terms. I think that's what
Speaker 8: happens with Iran. I hope that's what happens. However, I
Speaker 8: am very nervous that in the immediate term that Iran
Speaker 8: the regime will try to pull some kind of October
Speaker 8: surprise attack, the US attack our allies in the region
Speaker 8: to force US either to act or withdrawing. Will withdraw?
Speaker 2: Hey, te, is there any Arab countries on iran side
Speaker 2: other than China or Russia? And you know, Russia has
Speaker 2: their own problems. I mean, they have to call in
Speaker 2: North Koreans. I mean, and so there's no other you know,
Speaker 2: no other Arab countries.
Speaker 8: No other Arab countries at all, just the opposite. In fact,
Speaker 8: the countries which normally sit on the sidelines and watch
Speaker 8: wars in the Middle East and never take aside. So
Speaker 8: the Gulf Arabs, of the saudiast Uae, Bahrain, Kuwait, they're
Speaker 8: all on our side. In fact, some of them are
Speaker 8: actually fighting with Israeli military with US against Iran. So
Speaker 8: just the opposite. I mean, that's the other great takeaway
Speaker 8: from the Middle East policy is so has changed the
Speaker 8: architecture of the entire Middle East. And then finally, the
Speaker 8: Strait of Hormuz is every day it's becoming less relevant
Speaker 8: as countries move their oil by pipeline and they're building
Speaker 8: new pipelines and as countries by American instead of Middle
Speaker 8: Eastern oil.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to do that because you can't allow
Speaker 2: one terrorist with a rock on his back to go
Speaker 2: and terrorize the rest.
Speaker 8: Of the work completely. And they're going to try they'll
Speaker 8: try to sabotage whatever deal is cut. But that's why
Speaker 8: I you know, again, patients, it's hard to remember, but
Speaker 8: when Reagan put all the policies in that I've just described,
Speaker 8: the Soviet Union didn't collapse overnight. It took five years
Speaker 8: after Reagan left office before the Soviet Union collapsed, and
Speaker 8: yet it did collapse. It was inevitable. And I think
Speaker 8: that if we can just be patient, and I don't
Speaker 8: think this is going to last for a year. I
Speaker 8: think this is going to last for a couple of
Speaker 8: weeks months. But Iran is in such a depth funeral
Speaker 8: economically that at what point does somebody say we've had enough?
Speaker 2: Is the CIA late in distributing guns to the rest
Speaker 2: of the people of Iran, So.
Speaker 8: That was one story. One idea was that the CIA
Speaker 8: would distribute weapons to the Kurds, which are a large
Speaker 8: minority in Iran, and that the Kurds, historically great fighters
Speaker 8: they're spread to the Curi people are spread around the
Speaker 8: Middle East, or some in Iran, there's some in Turkey,
Speaker 8: there's some in Iraq. But that if we had armed
Speaker 8: the Curds, the Curds would take out the Iranian regime.
Speaker 8: I always thought that was a non starter because if
Speaker 8: you arm the Curds, the Turks get really mad, because
Speaker 8: the Turks say, oh, well, you know, if you're arming
Speaker 8: those Curds, they're going to come and try to have
Speaker 8: a separatist movement in Turkey. And even though Turkey is
Speaker 8: you know, not the most I don't know. I guess
Speaker 8: they're really kind of distasteful. Iridiwana is a tough guy.
Speaker 8: He's one of the only guys I've ever been in
Speaker 8: a room where I've just been terrified to somebody who's
Speaker 8: going to turn out the lights, where we'd all get stabbed.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, well, kt I was there one time too,
Speaker 2: the same way.
Speaker 8: And you felt the same way. Right, you're nervous about Ereonon.
Speaker 2: Well, me and father Alex are not allowed to go
Speaker 2: to Constantinople.
Speaker 8: Uhha, you know that they would bring the knives out.
Speaker 2: Yes, so we're not. We've been told by our own
Speaker 2: government not to go.
Speaker 4: I'm glad you made it a back Okay, if you
Speaker 4: need you need a carpet, I'll go to the Grammar's off.
Speaker 2: For Judge book.
Speaker 4: Wow wow. So yeah, what were your Yeah?
Speaker 2: Not too good?
Speaker 4: Yeah, too good?
Speaker 2: All right, thank you, Kato.
Speaker 4: Kat thank you, Katie and John. We're going to take
Speaker 4: a break. We're gonna be talking to Zoodi Jasser about
Speaker 4: the Islamisation of America and he is.
Speaker 2: Any at six o'clock, President Trump is calling in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't wait with Michael Cohen. Uh, it's the
Speaker 4: conversation everyone's been waiting to hear. I can't wait. And
Speaker 4: by the way, also in addition to that, John, Michael
Speaker 4: Cohen's going to join us in the studio. It's going
Speaker 4: to give us a preview to so I can't wait.
Speaker 4: We have an action packed show. Definitely don't go anywhere here.
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Speaker 4: We were just talking about at the top of the show,
Speaker 4: very frightening, a thirty five year old woman, an American,
Speaker 4: has been arrested for plotting to attack the capital in
Speaker 4: New York, the state capitol there in Albany and the
Speaker 4: legislators in a massive, massive attack and join us how
Speaker 4: to talk about what's going on in the radicalization that's
Speaker 4: happening to many people in this country and elsewhere. Is
Speaker 4: doctor Zudi Jasser. He's a former US Navy lieutenant commander.
Speaker 4: He's also the president and founder of the American Islamic
Speaker 4: Forum for Democracy, and he's also running for Congress as
Speaker 4: a Republican in Arizona and the district for which we
Speaker 4: love him. And doctor Jasser, it's so great to have
Speaker 4: you here. First of all, you're action to this news.
Speaker 4: It's an American who got radicalized apparently online and was
Speaker 4: not just willfully thinking about it, actually was buying a gun,
Speaker 4: was buying a whole bunch of sort of preparations to
Speaker 4: do a massive explosion at the capitol in New York
Speaker 4: and Albany. Really frightening stuff.
Speaker 12: Oh and she recorded and distributed her oaths of allegiance
Speaker 12: to Isis. You know, we seem as we see the
Speaker 12: normalization of a lot of the hamas adjacent Islamist adjacent folks,
Speaker 12: and many of them coming from the Muslim Brotherhood ideological
Speaker 12: camps in the West. We seem to have forgot how
Speaker 12: we got here. And as you and I have been
Speaker 12: talking for decades now about the radicalization of how the
Speaker 12: normalization of acts of violence, so that the Hassan Pikers
Speaker 12: of the world that somehow offhandedly say that America deserved
Speaker 12: nine to eleven. It's not a stretch that somebody who
Speaker 12: converts the Slam in the West that is radicalized and
Speaker 12: takes the hook line and sinker of a radical Islam
Speaker 12: that America is the enemy. Everybody becomes a target and
Speaker 12: thus they want to leave this world. Remember, the Islamists
Speaker 12: have an end of times eschatology, you know, different than
Speaker 12: the Iranian regimes, so they often want to plot something
Speaker 12: that leaves it with a major statement. So, yeah, we
Speaker 12: have our work is more than it's ever been. That
Speaker 12: we have to figure out what is exactly the steps
Speaker 12: towards reform, and America needs to stop giving us a
Speaker 12: pass of this bigotry of low expectations and start holding
Speaker 12: Muslim communities are moths during moms accountable for the ideas
Speaker 12: that they're pushing down the conveyor belt of radicalization.
Speaker 3: Judge Weinberg, doctor, good to talk to you again, Sir.
Speaker 3: I think people need to know how important it is
Speaker 3: that you get elected to Congress from Arizona, because then
Speaker 3: you would be one of the first, if not the first,
Speaker 3: common sense Muslim to take on these extremists who have
Speaker 3: totally radicalized and taken over otherwise peaceful religion. And what
Speaker 3: they're trying to do is they're trying to radicalize all
Speaker 3: across the world, this Islamist vision.
Speaker 12: Well, thank you, Judge. I can't tell you how important
Speaker 12: that is to me, because you know, listen, America didn't
Speaker 12: just happen to occur by accident. It was a country
Speaker 12: that was founded in a revolution, the greatest experiment in
Speaker 12: democracy and history, and it did it by fighting theocracy.
Speaker 12: It was paid for by a revolution, a civil war,
Speaker 12: and generations of families that have believed in liberalism, in
Speaker 12: classical liberalism and liberty, and Islam has not gone through
Speaker 12: that reformation. And many of us, by being blessed to
Speaker 12: have parents like mine that escaped military dictatorship and theocracy
Speaker 12: in the Middle East, in Syria and elsewhere, we have
Speaker 12: a responsibility to give back to this country. And you
Speaker 12: know it's not just fighting radical Islam. There are parasitic
Speaker 12: movements with that, like socialism. And as a physician, I
Speaker 12: see healthcare taken over by the government and socialized and
Speaker 12: these things go together. They're collectivist tribal mentalities. And there's
Speaker 12: no greater antidote to tribalism than Americanism. And I have
Speaker 12: to tell you that the American dream is at stake
Speaker 12: here and the Muslim radicals, if you will, are just
Speaker 12: one symptom of a deeper movement globally and that red
Speaker 12: green axis that wants to defeat and set us back
Speaker 12: as a country. And we have to stand up and
Speaker 12: defend it.
Speaker 4: By the way, doctor Zudi Jasser, did you see this?
Speaker 4: This is not in Arizona, but in Michigan Abdula Lsied,
Speaker 4: who of course is the candidate on the democratic side.
Speaker 4: It just came out that as mother worked for a
Speaker 4: global terrorist group which has been accused of funding Bin
Speaker 4: laden Hamas and the Taliban. I mean, how could this be?
Speaker 4: And then you know, then you heard the thing from
Speaker 4: the sister. And yet this guy is running for a
Speaker 4: statewide office. Yeah, US Senate in Michigan. Against a great guy,
Speaker 4: a former FBI special agent and great American Mike Rodgers.
Speaker 3: And shamany intelligence committee who's in the house.
Speaker 4: The stakes couldn't be higher. Absolutely, I mean, what is
Speaker 4: your reaction when you hear this. You're running, of course
Speaker 4: for Congress in Arizona. We need good people like you.
Speaker 12: Well, thank you, And I rushed that is Z for
Speaker 12: a z Z number four az dot com. And it's
Speaker 12: not a surprise, you know, the you know, birds of
Speaker 12: a feather flock together. These guys and his sister is
Speaker 12: an Islamist, that's anti Semitic, that was claiming to be
Speaker 12: pro Palestinian but actually was just a deeply anti Israel,
Speaker 12: anti Semitic and has said things. You know, it's hat
Speaker 12: on Piker, who helped him raise money during his campaign
Speaker 12: and still claims that he's being targeted because of comments
Speaker 12: he made. The worldview of the people around him have
Speaker 12: won in common, which is their detestation for America. They're
Speaker 12: discussed for Western freedom and liberalism, their empathy for Chinese
Speaker 12: communism hasan Piker went to China and claimed it's the
Speaker 12: greatest government ever. I mean, this is the type of
Speaker 12: folks he has around him, so it's not a surprise
Speaker 12: that they've helped raise money for charities that claim to
Speaker 12: be charities. But they're really about committing and countenancing Terry.
Speaker 12: The friends around him, including abdur Rahman, I'll say it, himself,
Speaker 12: couldn't get a security clearance to be tour guides at
Speaker 12: a government facility, let alone run for Senate and get
Speaker 12: intelligence reports like Mike Rodgers and others you know who
Speaker 12: have been vetted. These folks have not been vetted. And
Speaker 12: with Obama calling Mamdani and others, you know, they don't
Speaker 12: care about the security threat. They just want to raise
Speaker 12: up individuals that claim to be grievance represent a grievance
Speaker 12: group rather than actually a pro American mentality.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad that you are fighting for America, doctor
Speaker 4: Zoodi Jasser running for Congress there in Arizona. We need
Speaker 4: the great folks.
Speaker 2: There, some common sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we need you, We need you doctor Jasher and
Speaker 3: the Congress.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you so much. Zumi, it's great to have
Speaker 4: you here.
Speaker 12: Thank you, thank.
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Speaker 4: Well, there's a lot happening. First of all, guys, the
Speaker 4: FBI is expanding its investigation into former California Congressman Eric Swalwell.
Speaker 4: The FBI sees his devices at San Francisco Airport Sunday night.
Speaker 4: Once a leading Democratic candidate for California Governor, Swallwell resigned
Speaker 4: from Congress earlier this year and mad some very serious
Speaker 4: sexual misconduct allegations. Also, President Trump said on Truth Social
Speaker 4: Wednesday that Iron failed to take the Opera tunity to
Speaker 4: make a deal and would now face what he called
Speaker 4: economic warfare and isolation on an unprecedented scale. And guys,
Speaker 4: coming up, we have our own Michael Cohen. He's got
Speaker 4: a special presentation and he's going to be teasing. He
Speaker 4: just had a big exclusive conversation with President Trump.
Speaker 2: John, while it's coming up. The conversation with President Trump
Speaker 2: is coming on a little bit after six o'clock. Yet,
Speaker 2: don't go anywhere, And I understand, Rita, there's a break
Speaker 2: breaking news that nobody's hurt before.
Speaker 4: Oh, I can't wait. Well, maybe we can tease a
Speaker 4: little bit out of him. He's going to be joining
Speaker 4: us right after the break. We can't wait. Everybody, stay tuned.
Speaker 4: President Trump exclusive with Michael Cohen.
Speaker 13: SA.
Speaker 6: Commuting home with Katz and Cosby.
Speaker 1: Now here's John Katsimatidis and rat It Gosby on seventy
Speaker 1: seven WABC.
Speaker 6: It's freaking news WABC, And.
Speaker 4: Boy oh boy, I can't wait because coming up just
Speaker 4: at six o'clock there is a huge exclusive with President
Speaker 4: Donald Trump with Michael Cohen, a big special presentation and
Speaker 4: Michael's just walking down the hall right now and joining us. Michael,
Speaker 4: just give us a little tease. We're gonna have a
Speaker 4: little more in a second, but you finish at Blockbuster.
Speaker 14: Right Oh yeah. You know, what was supposed to be
Speaker 14: a twelve minute max fifteen minute interview turned out to
Speaker 14: be a whopping forty minute. We had so much to
Speaker 14: talk about. It reminded me very much of the old
Speaker 14: days when I would sit across from Trump at the
Speaker 14: desk on the twenty sixth floor. But he dropped a
Speaker 14: handful of bombs, one of which I'm going to tease
Speaker 14: very very soon even on here. Do you want me
Speaker 14: to do it right now? What do you want me
Speaker 14: to wait?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think you want to do it. I want
Speaker 4: to hear it. All right, give us, give us a.
Speaker 15: Tease of the tea. I mean, come on, give about
Speaker 15: a tease of the teas, A teas of the teas. Yes, Philip,
Speaker 15: go Now, when.
Speaker 16: We hit him with the B two bombers, they were
Speaker 16: exactly two weeks away from having a new nuclear weapon.
Speaker 7: And that's why I had to do it.
Speaker 14: Now, how many times have we all talked about what
Speaker 14: was happening, what was the imminence? Why did the president
Speaker 14: elect to do what he needed to do on that
Speaker 14: specific February date, February twenty eighth, And this is the reason,
Speaker 14: because they were two weeks away from a nuclear device.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he felt he had to act and he did. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and boy did he ever.
Speaker 14: Now let me wait, do you hear the conversation?
Speaker 4: Here's the other thing. What else did you get into?
Speaker 4: You obviously got into Iran?
Speaker 14: Yes, other other.
Speaker 4: There's a lot, because this is your first public conversation,
Speaker 4: right with my first with the.
Speaker 14: Eight long years.
Speaker 4: Oh my, okay, so hold give us that cliffhanger. We're
Speaker 4: going to go now to Jason Millaris on a whole
Speaker 4: different topic. Because one of the big things and I'm
Speaker 4: sure you brought it up in forty minutes. Is about
Speaker 4: sanctuary cities, his policy with the borders. That's a big, huge,
Speaker 4: hot issue. And there's a horrible crime that took place
Speaker 4: in Virginia. And joining us now is the former Attorney
Speaker 4: General of Virginia, the great Jason Mayaris. Jason. Uh, this
Speaker 4: whole thing. Everyone's talking about this case, this mother who
Speaker 4: was stabbed by an illegal immigrant from l Salvador.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: Talk about this case and why it's emblematic of why
Speaker 4: you don't want to have open borders and you need
Speaker 4: to have closed borders. Like thank god, President Trump has.
Speaker 17: Done well, you know, thanks so much, and and I
Speaker 17: look forward to hearing that that that with Cohen later.
Speaker 17: But listen, we are still dealing with the bitter fruits
Speaker 17: of Joe Biden's absolute failure at the border.
Speaker 10: You know, in the four years.
Speaker 17: He was president, we had nine million illegal crossings on
Speaker 17: our southern border. That's larger than the population of thirty
Speaker 17: nine US states. And for those that came across, over
Speaker 17: eighty percent of those that were even apprehended were given
Speaker 17: what's called an NTA and notice to appear, so you
Speaker 17: get a traffic citation from a cop. You know, they'll
Speaker 17: tell you we'll see in court in four or five months.
Speaker 10: Well, at our.
Speaker 17: Border, they were giving an NTA saying we'll see you
Speaker 17: at an asylum hearing in four or five years from now. Well,
Speaker 17: what happened in you had an individual that was appranded
Speaker 17: at the border of Salvadorian national in April twenty twenty four,
Speaker 17: while Biden was president. They just let him go. He
Speaker 17: came into the interior and he brutally stabbed, actually doused
Speaker 17: her in gasoline, tried to light her on fire, but
Speaker 17: stabbed to death. A forty two year old mother in
Speaker 17: Fairfax count in Great Balls in a public park, stabbed
Speaker 17: her to death. Let's leave him behind a three year
Speaker 17: old child. And so it goes to show that the
Speaker 17: failures of these policies at the federal level, and then
Speaker 17: at the state level, you have Governor Abigail Spamberger, who
Speaker 17: her first day in office issued an executive order reversing
Speaker 17: Governor Younkins EO that that said for the state police
Speaker 17: to cooperate with federal immigration authorities. And then locally, one
Speaker 17: of these left wing Soros social justice prosecutors who has
Speaker 17: openly said he factors in your immigration status on what
Speaker 17: he charges you.
Speaker 4: That's Steve descott policies fail right, Steve Doescott. You know
Speaker 4: what's amazing, And mister Attorney Jerald, I have to get
Speaker 4: into this because it's shocking. When he was running, it
Speaker 4: came up that on his website he actually says, if
Speaker 4: you are an illegal immigrant, we'll take that into account.
Speaker 4: In other words, will favor you over an American citizen.
Speaker 4: That that's something that like actually goes in the immigrants
Speaker 4: favor I mean, and that is shocking. So what is
Speaker 4: he going to do in this case?
Speaker 7: Well, I don't know.
Speaker 17: But here is the thing that's interesting. He is under
Speaker 17: active investigation by the Department of Justice because he's discriminating
Speaker 17: based on national origin.
Speaker 10: Think about it.
Speaker 17: He is saying that an illegal immigrant, a non citizen,
Speaker 17: gets a special privilege from his government office that an
Speaker 17: American citizen would it. In other words, he is reducing
Speaker 17: charges because he does not want to have a felony
Speaker 17: on your record to get on the radar federal immigration authorities.
Speaker 17: That is a privilege not being given to American citizens.
Speaker 17: And so DOJ got a referral and they're openly investigating
Speaker 17: Steve Descona right now for civil rights violation. I had
Speaker 17: an opportunity in the spring to testify inform of a
Speaker 17: Chairman Jordan's committee with Steve Discona right beside me, in
Speaker 17: which he was asked about this language on his website
Speaker 17: and he basically claimed, what maybe on my website, but
Speaker 17: listen and it was just campaign writeric I didn't really
Speaker 17: mean it, which is stunning to me because now he
Speaker 17: either just in that investigation is going to show one
Speaker 17: of two things. He either lied under oath, which is
Speaker 17: its own criminal violation, or he actually did never do
Speaker 17: what he claimed to do. I think he lied clearly
Speaker 17: under oaths. So he is in a world of heart.
Speaker 17: But the reality his sanctuary policies failed. They failed on
Speaker 17: their biden to the federal level, they failed at the
Speaker 17: state and local level. It's so bad what the governor
Speaker 17: of Virginia did, Spamburger. But even if you're a convicted
Speaker 17: fella sitting in a prison, not a jail where you're
Speaker 17: accused of a crime. Prison, even then they won't cooperate
Speaker 17: with federal authorities. It's happened so often, it's so tragic.
Speaker 17: But but what makes it so infuriating. Is it's so preventable.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: At half of the murders in Fairfax County of Virginia,
Speaker 4: you know this better than I do, are from illegal
Speaker 4: aliens this year. I mean that number says it all.
Speaker 3: Judge Weinberg, Jason, good to talk to you again. So
Speaker 3: you just have a Democratic socialist with a Democratic nomination
Speaker 3: the United States Senate in Florida. What are your thoughts
Speaker 3: about the drift of the Democratic Party.
Speaker 17: Well, you know, Miarez is kind of a southern name there,
Speaker 17: you know, Judge, it's deep south, is from Cuba, so
Speaker 17: you can imagine what I think about the Democratic socialism
Speaker 17: that is now taking over in this takeover of the
Speaker 17: Democratic Party. I find that amusing that they have won
Speaker 17: in a state dominated by citizens whose families have fled socialism,
Speaker 17: whether it was in Cuba, Venezuela, or Nicaragua. So I
Speaker 17: don't think they're going to go far, but it does
Speaker 17: blow up a little bit of the legacy media's narrative,
Speaker 17: which is, well, these Democratic Socialists are only winning in
Speaker 17: these big, large urban areas like New York. Well, now
Speaker 17: we've seen that they've won their primary against Vidman. She
Speaker 17: was outspent sixteen to one, yet she trounced them by
Speaker 17: double digits via the party's nominee. In the good news,
Speaker 17: I don't think she's going to go very far in Florida.
Speaker 17: The bad news is what you're seeing is a complete
Speaker 17: takeover of the Democratic Party by these Marxist socialists. And
Speaker 17: that should concern every American because when one of the
Speaker 17: two major political parties in America is being taken over
Speaker 17: by Marxist that should concern all of us about where
Speaker 17: the direction that we're headed right now.
Speaker 2: Tell us your origin originally is Cuba, and what do
Speaker 2: you hear from the Cuban community.
Speaker 17: Oh, they are, well, they're outraged because this woman has
Speaker 17: said some nice things about the cash for regime. They're concerned,
Speaker 17: but they're also very very confident. I mean, Florida is
Speaker 17: a great example of what good governance can look like,
Speaker 17: whether it's in Miami or in Tallahassee. There's a reason
Speaker 17: why so many people are leaving Kandi ly states like
Speaker 17: New York and Illinois and Chicago and going there.
Speaker 10: But she is not going to win.
Speaker 17: But it's a challenge because the reality is right now,
Speaker 17: the Democrats are so consumed by anger at this administration,
Speaker 17: that they're openly voting and supporting very socialist Marxists, that
Speaker 17: they announced that they want to destroy the Constitution of
Speaker 17: bolished in the US sen and abolished the electoral College.
Speaker 17: And so the stake's going to be higher this fall
Speaker 17: in Florida, around the country. We've got to send Marxism
Speaker 17: packing because right now they are in Bolden, they're winning
Speaker 17: these primaries at the state level, and now we need
Speaker 17: to defeat them in the general.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for coming on. And we
Speaker 2: got Leez Elden on the other phone, so we'll talk
Speaker 2: to you again real soon.
Speaker 10: Great, great to catch up.
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, and I understand that we have
Speaker 4: real quick here. Leezeldon, the EPA administrator, John, why don't
Speaker 4: you take.
Speaker 2: It what us today is Leez Elden, a good friend,
Speaker 2: a longtime congressman in Long Island, now EPA administrator for
Speaker 2: the last eighteen months. And well, Lee's Elden energy course
Speaker 2: keep rising in a place like your own hometown in
Speaker 2: New York. The fact is that these windmills, these windmills
Speaker 2: are creating more damage to the environment along the Atlantic coast.
Speaker 2: And I know President Trump has been trying to get
Speaker 2: rid of them or whatever. And it's also the price
Speaker 2: of energy to go up. Is there any movement to
Speaker 2: in any direction in.
Speaker 16: That, Well, yeah, I mean there is no coincidence that
Speaker 16: New York's energy bills have been skyrocketing over the course
Speaker 16: of these.
Speaker 6: Last several years.
Speaker 16: You have policies that are coming out of Albany that
Speaker 16: are causing it. They have banned the extraction of natural gas.
Speaker 16: They aren't improving new pipelines like Constitution pipeline, which is
Speaker 16: absolutely necessary. They won't allow hookups to gas on new construction.
Speaker 16: They have set climate goals that they know that are
Speaker 16: out of reach, but they'll cause a tremendous amount of
Speaker 16: economic pain to people who can at least afford it.
Speaker 16: And they talk about the intermittent sources like wind as
Speaker 16: if it is a substitute for baseblok power and it's
Speaker 16: not U And they they want to know, they want
Speaker 16: local control in instead of local control and getting these
Speaker 16: battery energy storages source systems built and residential areas and
Speaker 16: communities where they don't want it up state they're delivered.
Speaker 16: They're dealing with the state putting these solar farms. Uh
Speaker 16: get you know, jamming locals into accepting these solar farms
Speaker 16: and communities even though the communities don't want it. When
Speaker 16: you add it all up, it ends up resulting in
Speaker 16: an energy policy that is bad on the just on
Speaker 16: that front of energy policy singularly, but also the economic consequences,
Speaker 16: the impact on cost of living, on quality of life,
Speaker 16: and a lot of New Yorkers are fleeting as a result,
Speaker 16: and they're not looking back. We made a decision out
Speaker 16: of EPA earlier this summer with regards to the summer
Speaker 16: blend of fuel for oil, and you had almost every
Speaker 16: state in the country go along with it. And as
Speaker 16: a result because of that, they had their oil prices
Speaker 16: go down, not up. New York California examples of two
Speaker 16: big blue states where they decide not to go along
Speaker 16: with it. And as a consequence, New Yorkers Californians had
Speaker 16: their bills go up, not down in the cost of
Speaker 16: being able to get gasoline. So these policies, they're reckless,
Speaker 16: they're foolish. They're causing a lot of damage. A lot
Speaker 16: of people are complaining about the economic consequences, and they
Speaker 16: should complain. They should complain more to make sure that
Speaker 16: they're getting the change. And while we might be putting
Speaker 16: tomon sense into our decision making in the Trump administration,
Speaker 16: that needs to happen at the state level in places
Speaker 16: like Albany as well.
Speaker 2: Please Elden EPA administrator, thank you for your common sense,
Speaker 2: Thank you for telling the people the truth. And God
Speaker 2: bless you and God bless Mary.
Speaker 6: Thanks a lot.
Speaker 4: Wow, great discussion with Lee's Eldon about Windmells.
Speaker 2: And yeah, he's in come back on on Sunday to
Speaker 2: t welcome back to the rest of the country.
Speaker 4: Oh, I can't wait.
Speaker 2: About New York State today and the rest of the
Speaker 2: country you'll be talking about on Sunday morning.
Speaker 4: That means you got the whole thing covered. That's what
Speaker 4: that means. Right And by the way, I can't wait.
Speaker 4: You guys were going to take a quick break because
Speaker 4: we are going to get more out of Michael Cohen,
Speaker 4: even though he said he's not ticklish, but we're going
Speaker 4: to get it out of him somehow.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: He has a big exclusive with President Trump coming up
Speaker 4: in just a few minutes, a special presentation, huge exclusive,
Speaker 4: and we're going to get some more details right after that.
Speaker 4: Oh no, we will trust me. We well, you know
Speaker 4: my determination.
Speaker 14: Where well, I'm a little nervous.
Speaker 4: He's he's on the hot seat right after the break,
Speaker 4: Michael phone, give us an eight view or he's not
Speaker 4: going to get out of the studio.
Speaker 1: The common sense recap of the big stories. It's Cats
Speaker 1: and Cosby on seventy seven WABC is freaking news WABC, and.
Speaker 4: We are back here and everybody is talking about this
Speaker 4: big exclusive interview. It's a big special presentation with Michael
Speaker 4: Cohen and with President Donald Trump, the first public conversation
Speaker 4: they have had in eight years. And you're gonna hear
Speaker 4: it only right here, John, in just a few minutes
Speaker 4: on seventy seven WABC.
Speaker 2: Why not let's start to let's begin, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Let's begin. Well, we have a tease first from Michael Cohen.
Speaker 4: What do you think? What are the big things? The
Speaker 4: Iran stuff, obviously, but great conversation to talk.
Speaker 14: About the economy. We talked. We talk about the exact
Speaker 14: questions that any decent I'm gonna call myself decent, any
Speaker 14: decent interviewer would ask of President Donald J. Trump today.
Speaker 14: The conversation is raw, it's open for me. It felt
Speaker 14: very familiar, It felt very similar to the old days
Speaker 14: when I would sit across the desk from him. I
Speaker 14: always sat in the far right velvet red share and
Speaker 14: we would have these open conversations. The dialogue. It was again,
Speaker 14: it was easy, it was familiar, and it's extremely informative,
Speaker 14: so much that even I, who read the newspaper, every newspaper,
Speaker 14: every single day, there's so much in the conversation that
Speaker 14: I did not know that. As soon as I got
Speaker 14: finished with the interview, I started googling in order to say,
Speaker 14: oh my god, things like this are really going on.
Speaker 14: Why are they not speaking about this more to the public.
Speaker 4: What do it mean too, just to you personally to
Speaker 4: have this conversation. I mean, you've talked publicly, you were
Speaker 4: in fact with us on Kats and Cosby talking about
Speaker 4: how there was this reconciliation, how was the moment just
Speaker 4: for you, Michael Cohen. So people are going to listen
Speaker 4: to it, to it.
Speaker 14: Remember, the President and I, over the course of the
Speaker 14: past one year, have seen each other three times, and
Speaker 14: during those meetings, they were emotional, they were they were familiar. Again.
Speaker 14: It's really it's very tough to describe the feeling. We
Speaker 14: had a friendship for fifteen years, very close friendship, furry
Speaker 14: that was rocked by politics, by the weaponization of the
Speaker 14: Department of Justice. And interestingly enough, that's part of the
Speaker 14: conversation that there may be no two people on this
Speaker 14: planet that have had the Justice Department weaponized against them
Speaker 14: more than Trump and I. There has not been two
Speaker 14: people maybe that have been put against one another. Maybe
Speaker 14: I don't know, since Andrew Jackson and Burr, I mean,
Speaker 14: the only difference is, you know, there was no hot
Speaker 14: lead in this one. There was only incarceration at cocks.
Speaker 4: Like that that description there, Aaron Burr Jackson, I would say,
Speaker 4: go back a while, but but it gives a good
Speaker 4: sense of sort of, like you just said, the division
Speaker 4: and and the politicization. And boy, President Trump endured a
Speaker 4: lot of it. So we're gonna hear about that, right.
Speaker 14: Sure, and he'll acknowledge that he endured a ton of it.
Speaker 14: But then again, as he said, so did you. And
Speaker 14: this is the Donald Trump that I remember, This is
Speaker 14: the one that act and is acting like the friend
Speaker 14: that I remember him to be.
Speaker 4: Wow, very powerful, very powerful. And obviously then you also
Speaker 4: and I can't wait to hear more about the RAM discussion.
Speaker 4: Obviously borders, right, I.
Speaker 15: Was assume you know why the mystery I'm giving the tease. Well,
Speaker 15: that's not a tease.
Speaker 4: That's a give no. But you know what, it's an
Speaker 4: interesting because he is so proud of closing the border.
Speaker 14: Well, why don't you hear from him? Yeah right, why
Speaker 14: don't you hear from from the man.
Speaker 4: We hear a lot of surprises. You sure are.
Speaker 14: More surprises than you could even imagine.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, look at that. That's that is called a tea.
Speaker 4: That is called a big, big tease. So I think
Speaker 4: we should just take it away and everybody. Here it is.
Speaker 4: Here is the Big Special Presentation by Michael Cohen with
Speaker 4: President Donald J. Trump, the Big Exclusive, and everybody, before
Speaker 4: we go to it, we gotta what do we all
Speaker 4: stand for?
Speaker 2: Guys?
Speaker 4: Way, And here it is. Here's Michael Cohen with President
Speaker 4: Donald J. Trump.