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Speaker 1: Second I saw this, I couldn't wait to talk with

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Zach Abraham, chief Investments for Bullard Capital Management about this

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President Trump talking about maybe it's time to end the

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income tax.

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Speaker 2: He's going to be very rich again, and it's going

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to happen very quickly. It's time for the United States

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to return to the system that made us richer and

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more powerful than ever before. Do you know, the United

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States in eighteen seventy to nineteen thirteen all tariffs and

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that was the richest period in the history of the

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United States, relatively speaking, in other words, relatively And they

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set up the Great Tariff Commission of eighteen eighty seven.

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And this commission had one function, what to do with

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all the money that we took in. It was so

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enormous that they had no idea. It was a blue

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ribbon committee was set up eighteen eighty seven and what

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to do with all of the money that we had.

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And again Teddy Roosevelt was a beneficiary because when McKinley

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was killed, he took over this vast sum of money

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and he did all of those national parks.

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Speaker 3: And all of the other things.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not knocking him, but he was given a

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vast amount of money, and that was all made through

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tariff says we had no income tax. The income tax

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came in in nineteen thirteen. As I said in my

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speech last week, instead of taxing our citizens to enrich

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foreign nations, we should be tariffing and taxing foreign nations

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to enrich our citizens. Does that make sense right?

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Speaker 1: Provocative? Interesting idea. We'll talk with Zach about this. Someone's

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going to pay the tariffs and traditional conservative thought is

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that consumers do. Maybe that's true, but maybe other countries

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will have to seek some efficiencies.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about this.

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Speaker 1: Plus does Mexico acts sistay in our economy? And then

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that big dip with Navidia? Should people buy the dip?

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We'll talk with Zach Abraham, Chief and Vest Officer Bowart,

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couple of management courtesy renewed healthcare and of course.

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Speaker 3: We could only do this through God Almighty.

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Speaker 4: Shows disapproved by big pharma technocrats and Tyrann Saban. Where

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from the high mountains of Free America. Here's the Emerald

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City exile Todd to Herman.

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Speaker 1: Today is a day the Lord has made, and these

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are the times to which God has decided we shall live.

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My friend and brother, Zach Abraham joins US chief investment

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Officer Border Capital Management.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking about you.

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Speaker 1: I saw that President Trump has issued this federal ban

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on on wrong sex surgeries and hormones. And are you

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gonna go ahead and pay for your own or are

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you said, like you get it back off?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we gotta go in the pocket.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 6: We found a guy who's gonna give us a four

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for one. Okay, yeah, it's it's because they're bipoks.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's a family thing. You're just gonna switch places. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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we both make up for it, make up for it

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the family.

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Speaker 5: Great to see that pass though, wasn't it.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's worth the price of admission for me.

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Speaker 6: It's so the crazy thing to me is reading the

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pushback where you sit there and you go, I just

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don't understand. I don't understand how anybody can support the

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idea of a child, a minor getting her it's should

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it's where we have these debates that it's not the

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it's not the intensity of the debate that's that that's

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amazing or shocking. It's the fact that we're having a period, right,

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the fact that you've I mean I'm old enough to

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remember when it was a when genital mutilation was a

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scandal because backwards tribes in Africa were doing it against

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their you know, their tribal opposition, right.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: Now it's a family value. It's just it's insane. It's

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it's insane to me.

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Speaker 3: I used this metaphor earlier this week.

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Speaker 1: If your thirteen year old kid left school, your daughter,

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and she says, my dad walks out the door, and

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you and your wife are sitting there going, gosh, she's

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awfully late.

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Speaker 3: It's like seven o'clock. I mean, is she okay?

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Speaker 1: And you know, she texted me she said she'll be

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home a little late. She had something to take care

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of thirteen. And she walks into your house and her

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entire face body are tattooed and pierced everywhere through her

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tongue and she's got her tongue split like a snake.

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And she walks in, Hi, Dad, And you're gonna go, oh,

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you're going to call the tattoo parlor, you know, body

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mutilation place and say, hey, thanks for firming my daughter.

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known on the phone, and every gun you own yeah, yes.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm righting for blood, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And what's crazy to me is if we're gonna make

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these deals, why, Like, I don't understand why we're not

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lowering the age of booze and alcohol or in tobacco

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and tattoos.

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Speaker 5: You can get tattoos covered of me.

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Speaker 6: You can get removed, right, right, you can undo that, right,

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It's dude, It's just I just go back to it

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being a mind virus. There's no other way to discuss it.

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And I don't think there's any other way to look

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at it. And looking at these people who are wringing

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their hands over this, that this is like our country

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going in the wrong direction.

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Speaker 5: It's just amazing to me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, it goes back to the demon.

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Speaker 1: She was called Enchantras by tradition, and this was an

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Old Testament times, and her promise was to make you

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either male nor female. And those demons didn't say, well,

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people are more enlightened now, so well no, they just

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changed the tactic, you know.

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Speaker 6: And in some ways I think that you can even

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argue that we are more susceptible to it now, because

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I don't think we've ever been dumber as a society.

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I don't think, you know, And obviously I'm talking about

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society in general. Right, We've never been more technologically advanced

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and smarter that way, But in terms of morality and

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in terms of family values and all, we're bankrupt, you know.

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Speaker 4: And.

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Speaker 6: And and yet we're more yet we feel more insulated,

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more sophisticated, and so I like, I actually think it's

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probably it's easier work for those evil forces that are

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doing it than at any other time in history because

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people are so susceptible.

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Speaker 1: And they shift tactics. Satan can distort the press, he

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can distract, so he changes tactics. You guys are so smart,

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I mean, and I love this debate. This is something

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that they'll say is, well, you know, we've discovered that

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sex is on a sex is on a spectrum.

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Speaker 3: And so my response is, are like.

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Speaker 1: Death, yeah, yeah, yeah, So gender theory is the princess

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bride of medical theory.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's only mostly dead, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Here's here's here's another construct. This whole thing. I just

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can't wrap my head around.

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Speaker 6: If you want to say gender identity is on a spectrum, Okay,

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Speaker 5: Meaning I I've seen that in my own life. I

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think we've seen that.

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Speaker 6: You know, you'll have certain men that are more feminine

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than others. Right, I get that a gender identity, the

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way you see yourself, the way gender expression exactly, but

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your gender, I'm sorry, it's binary.

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Speaker 1: That's why they intermingle sex and gender. It's always been

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to confuse. All of this is about confusing, and it's

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throwing out words that sound like information to people.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: I made up a drink once called I'm gonna forget

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the name of the drink it made up. Oh my gosh,

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I made it back in the day when I used

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to drink. I created a drink called I can't remember

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the jumping Calypso or something stupid. And I told my friends,

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here's the drink. Because these bars at this place, if

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you stump our bartender, you get the drink for free.

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So I jump up to the bar jumping callispo eclipso

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there's no such thing we're talking about, you know, And

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I say it's this, this, and this, No I've ever

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heard of that drink, and this guy just know to

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jump in callpso is and no one says anything. Find

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says it's vodka, you know. And they had the whole

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thing down, like, wait, there's someone else who knows the drink.

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And then someone's oh wait, yeah, no, that's a thing

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man California, that's huge.

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Speaker 3: And where you're from. I'm from California.

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Speaker 1: That's called stack in the voat my friend, you were

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stack in the boat, right, That was me with fake information.

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So there's also there's Trump is making the moves he's making,

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and then the moves he's thinking of making. I got

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to talk to you about this in a second, this

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this move that he is thinking of making with the tariffs.

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And I'll do that after I once again announced the

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people this very thing that in this moment right now,

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this moment in life, you could decide to change something

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super simple in your life and then change someone else's life,

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just permanently.

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Speaker 3: So here's the deal.

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Speaker 1: You are a small business owner. People come to your

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business and they use soap. You are a real estate agent.

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You show houses people have soap in there. This is

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a liquid soap from Alan's. It's called Ian's, and every

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single one of those cases, you have an opportunity to

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show that all lives matter to you because yes, the

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soap is made in America. Yes it's all natural. Yes,

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the fragrances are absolutely unique.

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Speaker 3: That's all the facts.

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Speaker 1: Plus, we employ people at Allen's that the rest of

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the world would toss in the garbage, and I mean

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it that they would say house them and institutions. Because

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they're nonverbal, they are high in the spectrum of autism,

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even if it's late onset on setism, like has happened

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with Amy. So you are communicating that value in a

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way that is a conversation starter. At home, You're going

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to wash your body for the rest of your life.

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If you have not made the decision to use Allen's

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instead of the corporate soap made with values that probably

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don't match your own, that's in a decision in the

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negative when you could do this in the affirmative right now.

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sash Todd so we at the top of the show

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played this clip with President Trump and effectively saying it's

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time for the United States to return to the system

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that made us richer more powerful than ever before. Instead

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of taxing our citizens to enrich foreign nations. We should

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be taxing foreig nations to rich our citizens.

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Speaker 3: That's a good way to say it. And I mean,

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let's let's play imagination. Could this work?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 5: Really, and I don't yeah, And I don't think he's

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intending to do it either. I really it's yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think it's purely negotiation. And the reason it doesn't

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work is a math doesn't feder out. Meaning last year

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you look at the US government, you had about three

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point eight trillion dollars in total income total revenue from taxes,

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and that is that is a bigger number than the

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overall trade deficit. The trade deficits running right around a

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trillion one and a half trillion something like that. So

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if you tear aff one hundred percent end of the trade,

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it just mathematically it just doesn't work. And so I

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don't want to speak definitively toward that because obviously I'm

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not in the administration, not in those meetings, but on

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a mathematical basis, unless you were going to tear off

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one hundred percent of all imports, you wouldn't be able

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to you wouldn't be able to supplant the income tax.

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Speaker 1: I think he intends to like I mean, maybe he

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intends to tear if one hundred percent of imports.

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Speaker 6: He can't because it would just slaughter corporate revenues and earnings.

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Speaker 5: So I think, again, I don't. I don't.

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Speaker 6: I'm not involved in those meetings. I am not a

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US budgetary expert. But just on the surface of it,

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it feels to me very much like he is doing

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this for maximum negotiating leverage and trade deals.

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Speaker 3: I just it does.

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Speaker 6: One hundred percent tariffs do not do anything good economically

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for anybody. But you know something he's great at doing.

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And in my opinion, and I could be one hundred

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Speaker 5: But what he is doing that I think is highly

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effective is he's got that.

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Speaker 6: He's he's got that that part of him that for instance,

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world of a major company of major country that could

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threaten one hundred percent tariffs and the world takes it seriously.

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Speaker 1: Right, President Trump is this He is unpredictable. He is

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the guy at the poker table where you're like, wait,

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is he all in? Because he's got the nuts or

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is he all in because he has absolutely nothing.

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Speaker 6: And he's got an outstanding poker face. Meaning you and

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I are sitting you're having this conversation and we're supporting

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what he's doing, right, And I'm still sitting there going

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I don't think so because mathematically it doesn't it doesn't

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flo but you know, we don't know, Like, well.

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Speaker 1: If you take this as an isolated case, so let's

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just say, oh, this is all he does. Okay, that

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doesn't work. But let's bring some other things to the table.

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And I think you like the Energy Secretary nominee. Hey,

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let's become the dominant exporter of energy in the world,

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including on our own shores. Let's get micronuclear. He spoke

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it during his confirmation hearings. Micronuclear.

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Speaker 3: So we have that President Trump has offered a buy

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out to nearly every federal employee.

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Speaker 4: And I know.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, Zack, at the same time,

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he's saying to deep staters, hey, we can't fire you,

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but here's what we can do. We can demote you

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and we can relocate you. So Dubuque was a beautiful place,

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but if you're used to living in Washington, DC, where

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there's no recessions and no depressions and people counts out

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to you in Dubuque or you know what, We're going

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to move you to Wallas, Idaho and you can walk

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into a bar and say hi, I work with the

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federal government, and we'll see how that goes you, right,

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isolation and put it into the bigger picture of a

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Speaker 6: It certainly could. And I think you could certainly lower

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tax rates. But like I said, I just this has

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the feel to me of being.

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Speaker 5: Just maximum leverage. That that's the feel I've got.

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Speaker 6: I don't I think what he's looking for is exactly

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what we saw from Columbia. Speaking of which, watching the

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way the media handled that that was priceless. You know,

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media was trying to paint it out like that Columbia

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guy told him to take a hike.

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Speaker 1: So for the people that don't know President Trump, you know,

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we flew a bunch of illegal immigrants back to their

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country of origin, Columbia, and the socialist President's like, nope,

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we're not taking the airplane. And I don't know if

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you saw how this all went down. Where Trump was

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when he tweeted this, he's it mar Largo, yeah, right right,

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right right. He calls Marco Ruby, the second tourist state, Hey,

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little Marco, can you come over here and bring your

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glass of water?

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Speaker 3: And so so Marco comes over and he.

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Speaker 1: Tweets, uh, yeah, fifty tariff today, one hundred percent tomorrow

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doubles after that.

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Speaker 3: So and you were going to say that watching that, yeah, And.

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Speaker 6: Then and then he and then the President sent his

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own plane help Columbia, yeah, to help bring people. And

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and look, I am not I do not believe that

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the best position for the United States to be in

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is to be a bully. But I do think that

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we need to reassert and remind people who you're dealing with, right,

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And we have bent over for people that don't care,

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that don't appreciate it, that just want to milk it

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and take it the extra mile for so long. And

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I think that this is a much I think it's

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better for relationships international, right, Like good fences make good neighbors,

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we have not had any fences. They have been taking

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advantage of our you know, laissez faire approach, and idiot

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politicians for so long that I think it all or

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for us to move forward on a good footing, we

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need to have these confrontations. We need the Columbian president

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to remember who he is, right, and remember who we are.

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We need everybody in the world to remember who we are,

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not so we can dominate them, but so that we

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can have associations that are mutually beneficial, because for all

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too long the rest of the world has been like

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a tick just sucking a stride, right, And yes, I

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just I love that part of it. And I am

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a huge believer in in UH safety security via strength,

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and I think and I think it makes the world,

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including the people that were doing that that we're taking

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these hard lines with. He makes the whole world sacred, right,

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I agree, And they the neighborhood is safer when dads

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are when dads aren't on vacation.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: The President Trump has done this also, and I love

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this where he named what's his name of Bank of

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America mon yeah, about the banking conservatives, and and he

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called he and Jamie Diamond out in person right on

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stage right, you got quite big?

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Speaker 3: Is it wrong?

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Speaker 1: So in canstution is wrong? And then Bank of America

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puts a tweet out we don't do that, and there's

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like fifteen well known conservatives going, oh, well, here's the

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phone calls.

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Speaker 5: Yeah you did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, here's the copy of the letters that you did it.

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Speaker 6: And then watching the media trying to play that off again, right,

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which I love because I'm like, hey, guys, any credible

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any credibility you've left, which is virtually none. You're just

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burning it, right because everybody sees through it now. And uh,

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the other one that cracks me up. I was reading

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the Uh it just the media just kills me. I

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was reading an article yesterday about Tesla on CNBC. Yeah,

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middle of the way through the article, it turns toward

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the fact that not not alleged it musk through a

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Nazi salute on stage, and then cited several extreme left

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quote unquote experts that said, that's undoubtedly a Nazi salute,

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Da da da, And you look at him, and we're

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to the point where And I didn't because I thought

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better of it. But I wanted to contact that journalist

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directly and say, you don't believe this. I know you

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don't believe this, right, how do you how do you

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wake up in the morning and look at yourself as

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a journalist when you're writing garbage like this that you

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know and you didn't cite all of the experts on

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the other side that came out and said that was

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nothing like us a Nazi salute for this reason and

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that reason that you know, you didn't cite the other

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side of it like these jury and it's nothing that

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you and I don't know. There's been way worse examples

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of this and way more extreme examples of it. But

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the consistency and the intellectual dishonesty of these people is.

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Speaker 5: Just like it's almost like if I could behave.

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Speaker 7: Like them, if I went through the world and never

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thought once about my own credibility, right, Like, that's the

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only way you could do that, Right, There's no honor,

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there is no conviction, Like I just I you know,

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even when I hate somebody politically, I can't bring myself

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to life about them.

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Speaker 5: No, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Well, A, don't bear false witness and B you shall

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not lie. And see when you do that and get

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found out, that's gotta suck.

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Speaker 6: Like the other thing, though, taught too, is if you

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have to lie to back up a political view, isn't

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it time to examine your political view.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean if that's if your if your

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views and policies cannot be defended on a truthful basis,

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they can't be defended, right, And I have this dream

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and it's never gonna happen. I almost got called in

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front of a congressional hearing over January sixth, but I

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screwed it up because I told the guy who called me,

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the Senate staff or, that I was excited. Please can

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we do it now? Do you want to are just

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gonna have legal representation? No, gosh, I don't need that.

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Can I come back now like today?

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: And but see if I'm in those confirmation hearings and

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they say something along the lines of.

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Speaker 3: Are you concerned about.

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Speaker 1: The Nazi salutes that Elon musk Uh demonstrated twice at

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a Trump event?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I'm concerned about the fact that you armed

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Iran with three.

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Speaker 1: Billion dollars and they've pledged to destroy the state of

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Israel and then this country. And I'm concerned that you

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fund hamas that cuts the heads off of Jewish babies.

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Speaker 5: And now, yeah, when are we worried about Nazi salutes?

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And when are we not. I can't. I can't stick

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with the narrative.

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Speaker 6: You're guys, you want to basically call Israel a terrorist state, right,

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you want to back people that want to eliminate Israel

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off the face of the earth, and you're calling other

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people Nazis, right.

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Speaker 3: Okay, right, And we need to get better at pushing

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back on that way.

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Speaker 6: And and this, like.

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Speaker 1: You had to see this headline, this is a literal

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headline in the New York Times why calling Cartel's terrorists

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could harm the US economy. And you know what it

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is is because the people who pick our fruit and vegetables.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's not true, right, right?

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Speaker 3: And I don't know you You you go to a

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different place in Mexico than I do. Where do you go?

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Speaker 5: Usually typically, well, if you.

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Speaker 3: Don't want to give it away, don't give it away.

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Speaker 5: But no, no, no, no, no, I'm trying to it.

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Speaker 6: It's almost when we go to Mexico, it's either Cabo

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or or south of Kingcos.

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Speaker 3: Okay. So I have been solely to Port of Arta.

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Speaker 1: And if you go to Port of Arta, there are

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seven I got to do this, right, There are seven

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police forces in Port of Arta. One's just attached to

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the terraces, and one's attached to the cartels, one is

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sea going, and one exists solely four tourists. And it

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is like if you, as a tourist someone threatens to

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robs you, pickpockets you. You have three cars pull up and.

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Speaker 3: They're like on the cameras and then they just call

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the Hollisico Cartel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one of your guys went rogue, and Helisical Cartel's

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on the hell let's go heartline may help you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, we'll behead them. Okay, can you send us that?

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Speaker 4: Yep?

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Speaker 3: What does a FedEx?

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know it's a Mexican version of FedEx safest

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place in Mexico. That's where I go to renew healthcare.

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And I got this note from a listener, Todd. Hi, Todd,

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can you do a somewhat personalized ad for a friend

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of mine regarding re new healthcare?

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Speaker 3: He doesn't do politics, so I'd like it to have

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been a podcast with Zach. So here you are Zach.

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He thinks he has the best care here in America.

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He's an international airline pilot.

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Speaker 1: He's just got a brain injury at home and can't

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fly anymore until his brain fog goes away. That's what

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American healthcare has to say, has to happen. How can

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we speak more about this? I prefer phone. I can

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email you my number and use a burner phone to call.

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I want her to get better. Pray for him when

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I think of him lately. It's every day when I

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listen to you, so appreciate the note. Appreciate you watching,

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listen to the show, love that you love it. When

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I'm here with zach No, I can't do a customized

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ad for your friends. I don't know that his brain

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fog can be addressed by strem cells. I would suggest

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that you go instead to contact my friend doctor Duke Johnson,

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Heart of Heart of Heart of Hope in Hayden, Idaho.

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He's had great, great results inclaring brain frog that came

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from the injections, and your friend probably got injected.

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Speaker 3: I will tell you this. If I thought it would help,

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I would tell you. I will mention this.

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Speaker 1: I'm gifted to know a lot of now retired professional athletes.

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Latest guy I met retired professional baseball player.

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Speaker 3: Met him at the gym.

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Speaker 1: He came into me, he said, are you the guy

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the weightlifters talk about with the place in Mexico. Yep,

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he goes, here's the deal. He showed me his arm.

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Speaker 3: Zach. This guy through professional baseball for fifteen years. This

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is his our movement. I mean, this is the extent

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of how he can move his arm. His shoulders just

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completely toast and he goes.

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Speaker 1: The inflammation is so bad. I can't sleep on this side.

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I can't scratch myself. I can't, you know, undertake hygiene

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after I go to the bathroom. So is there anything

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I said? This is perfect case, perfect case. So here's

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the deal. I'm not a doctor, but here's what I

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know about renew. The stem cells are ethically gathered. They

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only come from placenta's and umbilical cords.

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Speaker 4: I know this.

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Speaker 1: They destroy inflammation, so at the very least, in my judgment,

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you'd have relief from the information for a long time.

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And then I know this for a fact because it

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happened to me. Nothing regrows muscle in my judgment, faster tendons,

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even cartilage in this. So here's what I told the guy,

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same thing. I'm telling you. You have nothing to lose

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by checking with renew. Go to renew dot Healthcare r

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E n ue dot healthcare people avoid surgery. They've had incredible,

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miraculous successes helping people overcome tbi's traumatic brain injuries and yeah,

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things like.

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Speaker 3: That shoulder over use as a professional athlete.

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Speaker 1: Renew dot healthcare police tell me are part of the

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Todd Herman Show family. So one other piece of video here, Zach,

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I want.

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Speaker 3: To watch this with me.

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Speaker 1: The President of Mexico, Claudia Shinbaum, says that she does

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not like President Trunk's so called attacks on immigrants. That's

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what he's doing, He's attacking immigrants. She says this that

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the Mexican government is what so she she says, the

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Mexicans sustain the American economy in the United States, in

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the countryside and services and everywhere. Certainly there's a lot

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of Hispanic labor here. Is she near accurate that in

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your judgment that Mexicans sustain our economy.

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Speaker 5: No, it's it's a it's a completely ridiculous statement.

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Speaker 3: Okay, don't don't don't don't like be wishy washy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, it's it's just nonsense. And and other than that,

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like you know, yeah, I bet you could probably make

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I mean, what since the other part of it is

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what what does that have to do with anything?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 6: If if we if we legalize cocaine sales and tax them,

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that will help revenues to and improve the national deficit.

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Speaker 5: Well, what does this have to do with anything?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 6: Like, First of all, if you look at the vast

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majority and I'm talking like ninety eight ninety nine percent

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of immigrants that have come in the country of the

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last three years, they live in they live in urban centers,

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they're they're living off well there and in handback, this

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is completely nonsensible. Second of all, there's already a working

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the working visas for for seasonal workers where we already

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have that. You can go like that's that's I'm forgetting

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what the name of it is. But there's a there's

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a program where effectively you can get temporary citizenship on

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an annualized basis to come in and do seasonal work.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so.

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Speaker 6: This is these are little kids throwing fits because somebody

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told them they have to eat their vegetables. I mean

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that that's that's what we're talking about here. There's just

534
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all there there. The whole thing is completely ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Things you're going to have to change.

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Speaker 1: I saw this thing, Jake Tapper was attacking Steven Miller

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and we'll run this video maybe next week. So Jake

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Tapper had Steven Miller and Stiver is kind of the

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the immigration thinker with President Trump first term, second term,

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and Jake just gets all over Stephen Miller and you know,

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you're going to destroy the economy, We're going to pay

542
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more for foods. You're going to you know, destroy farms.

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And Steven Miller sits there calmly. He goes, illegal immigrants

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work ones at two percent in farming. Yeah, yep, that's

545
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just the stats, the same thing that you just said

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that they're in this. I want to run this idea

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by you. We're getting the violent cartel members out. I

548
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saw this thing in Washington State. They arrested a child

549
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rapist immigrant who was supposed to been deported, but he

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was sheltered. What do you think of having pardons for

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illegal immigrants who have proven themselves to be incredible citizens?

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Speaker 3: Because side by side, So you like that idea, love it?

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Speaker 4: Love it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Hey, if you if you come here and you want

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to work, and you and you want to raise your kids,

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and you're a productive part of the family, and you

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want to be part of the American dream. I'm all

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about making immigration easier for those folks. What I'm not

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in favor of doing is offering free handouts with an

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open border, because you get the exact opposite of what

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this country was built on. People opted in to this

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country with no promise, no guarantee. That was the deal, right,

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and so by definition it was a self filtering process.

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The way you're doing it now, as a matter of fact,

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you got to tip your cap to these immigrants.

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Speaker 5: I would be doing the exact same thing that they're doing.

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Speaker 6: If somebody's gonna sit there and say, yeah, we're gonna

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open the border deal, We're gonna put you up in

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a hotel and give you free money, why would.

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Speaker 4: You not do it?

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Speaker 1: Like other than that of a sense of self respect

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that I don't want people hand feed me because I'm

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not an iguana or a puppy dog.

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Speaker 3: I mean there's that. I don't want to be hand

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fed like a No.

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Speaker 6: But if you're great, but if you're living hand in

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mouth in Mexico and you're you're an abject poverty, whatever

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you can do as a father to get you know,

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like I just pit put myself in that situation. Would

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I want the handout.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 6: But if I'm in that economic situation and you're going

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to offer me a chance to get my kids into

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the US, in the US schools, all that kind of stuff,

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I'm jump I'm jumping at it, and I don't.

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Speaker 5: And that's why I think part of this greation policy,

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I think that we should make it really hard to

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get in here illegally, and I think we should make

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it much easier to get in illegally right.

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Speaker 1: And I think that though, when we're making it easy

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to get in here legally, we should predicate it upon

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who do we need here? This is going back to

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who we are right we get to have these decisions

595
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I'm talking about. You're getting this because I've been monitoring

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the media in your separate country. Your governor, the very

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dangerous Bob Ferguson. He has put together a family separation

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task Force.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So the moment, the moment.

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Speaker 1: You have Ice roll in a place, they report that,

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your dictator, Bob Ferguson sends out a team of lawyers

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to fight this.

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Speaker 3: This is the same Bob that.

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Speaker 1: Wants to put people in jail for expressing political opinions,

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and he doesn't care about that family separation. I'm talking

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about countering taking away his ability to motion manipulate by

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putting on press releases or press conferences where President Trump says,

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here's the winners of our ten pardons this month, and

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he introduces a family. They came in illegally twenty years ago.

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Since then, they have been paying taxes through someone else's

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Social Security number.

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Speaker 3: That's illegal.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that. But they've been paying

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the taxes. They have put their kids through school with

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their own money through private schools. They rescued people from

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a fire, the son serving our military. We are giving

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a pardon along with a fine. Right, they're going to

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pay fines for what they've done, but they are pardoned

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for the crime of sneaking into our country. On the

620
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other hand, here's an arrest we made this week of

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a dangerous felon.

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Speaker 3: And then he gets a chance to.

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Speaker 1: Talk about your dictator, right, your dictator, Bob, And here's

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what he's doing.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm when I'm talking about pardons, that's what

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I'm talking about.

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Speaker 5: Yeah no, and I'm all for that.

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Speaker 6: There's got to be some type of leverage here's here

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that Trump can apply to these guys, when when what

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I would do or as I would advise him to do.

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Speaker 5: The minute Ferguson drops something like that, I would answer

632
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with extraordinarily painful measures of withholding federal funds and just say, listen,

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if you're not going to comply to US immigration laws,

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we we are cutting you off.

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Speaker 3: Good luck, yepuck and I.

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Speaker 5: And I'd sit there and look at I do.

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Speaker 3: It in California too, I would if I were I

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would go to his.

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Speaker 5: You don't get any relief funds until you do this.

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Speaker 1: There's there's there's chatter, and it's significant chatter from real people.

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I mean, people who know that the Trump administration is

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finally going to loosen up the US attorneys in your

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state to go after the corruption that everybody knows exists.

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Good because it's been there, but no one messes with

645
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the king's son. So if I were Trump, then I'd

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be going back to his DJ and saying, Okay, not

647
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only were we going to do this anyway because they're corrupt,

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but now they're actual insurrectionists.

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Speaker 5: And they're violating national law.

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Speaker 1: Right they're insurrectionists. There's cessations, cessationists. There's a point of

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conversation I want to have with you about social media

652
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,920
and the power of this, and it goes to the economy.

653
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It has to do with Visa and Elon Musk and

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I know you guys got to be on top of this,

655
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so let's talk about this in a second. I wanted

656
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to tell people there's a couple of new bags coming

657
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from a bone Frog Coffee and dang it, they're going

658
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to be so controversial. And one has to do with

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a cross. The other has to do with Trump and

660
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a color. So get ready for this, get in line

661
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for this. But then also can you just recognize them

662
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and pray for something. One of the guys who works

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at bone Frog, his name is Atticus. He's gotten called

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up to boot Camp and then Buds. So he's leaving

665
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bone Frog to go through the Buds program to become

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a Navy seal.

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Speaker 3: So I want to just take some time.

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Speaker 1: Is Bonefrog Coffee dot com slash todd. That's the you

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get the ten percent discount and the first cop or

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the first bat you buy fifteen percent of subscription coffees.

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I'll talk about the quality the coffee later. I do

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that all the time. Would you pray this weekend for Atticus?

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Because that is a huge, huge undertaking boot camp straight

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into Buds. And let's pray that God is with him,

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that he gets through that, that he thrives, that he

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in fact enjoys the experience, and that he's the guy

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who goes on to serve. There's one other guy named

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John and he's trying to get into Buds. So both

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of these guys are in the Navy. John's trying to

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get into Buds and they work at bone Frog. That's

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the class of people Tim hires there, always tries to

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work with veterans, veteran owned organizations, Bonefrog, Coffee, dot Com,

683
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Slash Todd and praying for Atticus and really right now

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Atticus and later John.

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Speaker 3: So Elon Musk. He's been talking about this forever.

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Speaker 1: They've struck a deal with Visa and this is the

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credit card network, not the cards, to be the first.

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Speaker 3: Partner for the X money accounts. And it's very simple.

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Speaker 1: He's got all these accounts, everybody's got their information, he's

690
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got their email addresses. Most people have put their phone

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numbers in there. Many people put their addresses in and

692
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this is going to allow people to move money, make

693
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peer to peer payments. So it's like Zell, it's like Venmo.

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This new entry matter is zach because the installed user base,

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the apps he's already got installed in people's phones. This

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to me strikes me as a major disruptor, particularly since

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Zell and Venmo those are liberal companies who don't particularly

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like our values.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I.

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Speaker 5: So, And what exactly is the question?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 5: What would exactly to me?

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Speaker 3: To me, this is a major disruptor. Am I wrong

704
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to think that this is a major disruptor?

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Speaker 5: It certainly could. I mean, it's certainly, Yeah, it certainly

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can be.

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Speaker 1: It certainly can be installed user base. He adds a

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tab to the app, he gives discounts to users. He's

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got in house image or to promote it. I mean,

710
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,559
to me, this thing comes out of the gate with

711
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,960
an easy in the first year. By the second year,

712
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,280
I say, he's got one hundred million users.

713
00:35:12,559 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 5: It doesn't seem unlikely. It doesn't seem it doesn't seem

714
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:22,280
unlikely to me. Yeah, I I I yeah, I man,

715
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,440
there's so many moving parts.

716
00:35:23,519 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: I don't He's got a track record of building great tech,

717
00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:30,800
he does easy to use, he's got a track record

718
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,679
of success in consumer apps. He gets branding, and then

719
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:40,800
there's this make payment as easy as tweeting. I mean,

720
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,880
if you make paying, you walk into an organization, I'm

721
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,559
not doing a QR code thing. You walk in, you

722
00:35:45,679 --> 00:35:48,519
hit a tweet, you paid, and it's not quite Apple wallet,

723
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,960
but that's very, very big. And then promoting the things

724
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,119
that you pay for instantly. Zach just purchased these tickets,

725
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,159
and then that's put out. Oh oh, Zach's going yeah,

726
00:35:58,199 --> 00:35:58,760
and and and.

727
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 6: One of the things I like about that is I

728
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,920
don't like Apple. I don't like what I think their

729
00:36:06,159 --> 00:36:09,000
I think their products are garbage. I think they're getting worse.

730
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:14,199
They don't innovate, and I don't like using any more

731
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,519
of their new things because at some point, Apple's corporate

732
00:36:18,599 --> 00:36:22,480
strategy went from building really cool stuff that everybody likes

733
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,079
to building things that hold you and capture you inside

734
00:36:26,119 --> 00:36:29,840
of their ecosystem. And anytime a company starts doing that,

735
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,400
even if that ecosystem is helpful, I just naturally push

736
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,199
back against it. I'm like, no, no, no, no, you

737
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,079
are not going to course me into anything, right, I'm

738
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,280
a free agent. I will use your products because I

739
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,199
want to, and I like using your products until you

740
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:46,199
made me start doing it.

741
00:36:46,639 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 5: And so I won't use Apple Wallet. I would use that.

742
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,559
Speaker 3: I'm exactly the same.

743
00:36:51,679 --> 00:36:54,559
Speaker 1: I have Google apps on my iPhone and anytime I

744
00:36:54,639 --> 00:36:57,480
need to get tech support from Apple. What are the

745
00:36:57,519 --> 00:36:59,239
guys to say, why don't you just use our mail

746
00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:02,199
plant right, just as their mail app? Oh, because I

747
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:03,000
don't want to be locked in?

748
00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:05,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I don't like your mail app, right?

749
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 3: And why don't you use our music app? Because they

750
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:08,719
don't want to be locked in?

751
00:37:09,159 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 5: And I don't like your music app.

752
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 3: Do you remember I don't know if you tracked this.

753
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,840
Do you remember a feature on Facebook called Facebook Beacon?

754
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,559
Speaker 5: No, but remember I've never had a Facebook or MySpace account.

755
00:37:20,559 --> 00:37:22,679
Speaker 1: Remember this is a really funny story. They launched a

756
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,760
thing called Facebook Beacon. This was very visionary and it linked.

757
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,360
It didn't tell you it did this. It linked your

758
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:34,039
Facebook account to your online purchases, so they were tracking

759
00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:39,079
what you bought and posting it. And this is a

760
00:37:39,199 --> 00:37:42,400
true world scenario. A friend of mine, Shelley Palmer, is

761
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,840
a tech guy and he's nice guy. He talks on

762
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,280
TV at tech super smart guy. This happened to one

763
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,480
of his senior employees. So the guys at work and

764
00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:57,920
he's making some plans. Bob just purchased two tickets to

765
00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:05,000
the opera, Bob just pick it, purchased some flowers. Bob

766
00:38:05,079 --> 00:38:09,320
has made dinner reservations. So this is all populating his page.

767
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:10,960
His friends are liking it looks like you're gonna have

768
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,719
a fun night. He doesn't even notice.

769
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 4: Wow.

770
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 1: So Bob shows up at the opera with his girlfriend

771
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:30,800
and then his wife walks up, Oh oh, hi, Hi,

772
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,159
well notty Bob, right, how did And then it turned

773
00:38:35,159 --> 00:38:38,239
out they didn't tell anybody they were doing this. I

774
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,960
mean this, this goes to the ego of the tech people.

775
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:47,119
Oh oh, by the way, we're going to be tracking

776
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,719
or purchasing and telling everybody what you buy. But if

777
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,920
you opt in on, man, I'm telling you, this has

778
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,199
the capability to remember a group on that thing where

779
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,480
if you if enough people sign up, we're gonna give

780
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,559
you this much discount. This has check in capability, This

781
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,159
has group on capability, This has for this many retweets,

782
00:39:07,199 --> 00:39:10,559
the price goes down. I'm telling you, man, I'm making

783
00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:13,159
a prediction right now, but this is a marker. I

784
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,679
think that that that payment system is going to be

785
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,320
the disruptor in the payment world because of its ability

786
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:24,119
to push viralism, to drive group discounts group activity, and

787
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,639
because of Elon Musk has chosen a side in the

788
00:39:26,679 --> 00:39:27,159
culture war.

789
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 5: I don't you know what I had not.

790
00:39:29,559 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 6: I got to be honest with you, I hadn't thought

791
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,320
about that angle on that one yet, and I I

792
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,840
fullheartedly agree. The only the only bummer about that is

793
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:41,000
is that, uh it, Yeah, we can't invest in it,

794
00:39:41,679 --> 00:39:43,119
you know, because it's because it's private.

795
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,119
Speaker 1: You don't think Elon will spin that out. I bet

796
00:39:45,159 --> 00:39:46,960
you Elon will spin out the financial entity.

797
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:50,519
Speaker 6: He should at some point because he can restructure the sharers.

798
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,519
Hen he could do a similar structure that like that

799
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:58,519
that Facebook did, where he can still maintain autocratic control

800
00:39:58,599 --> 00:40:01,280
over it, right and and still sell it off and

801
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,239
and and spin it back out. But he's got to

802
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,719
get revenues up. I think revenues are probably still down

803
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,280
real sharply from where he purchased it. Yeah, but like

804
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,000
you said, or we were talking about in the office,

805
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,960
he might be able to offset that a little bit

806
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,760
because he's got a whole new contingency of fans exactly,

807
00:40:18,639 --> 00:40:22,280
and those people like the Tesla bros from back in

808
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,639
the day, they'll step in there and buy it just

809
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:25,400
to support him.

810
00:40:25,519 --> 00:40:27,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some chance that he might get some special

811
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,320
deals on his AI through the White House.

812
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 6: All right, hey, and hey, look, and if you're one

813
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,880
of these tech guys and you're not working in an

814
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,840
effort to try to ruin us or rod us from

815
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,400
the outside, I'm okay throwing some special deals there.

816
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 3: Okay, Right, let's be let's be consistent.

817
00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 1: We're going to get into the Navidio conversation, and I'm

818
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,880
going to tell you a little private fact about myself

819
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,920
that I have gotten so into the Bibtemizer's products guys,

820
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,159
that I now take quarterly shipments. It's not enough for

821
00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:59,920
me to have subscriptions. I like to have all my

822
00:41:00,119 --> 00:41:03,440
stuff up front. My quarterly shipment arrives, I think today.

823
00:41:04,559 --> 00:41:06,840
So here's what's in my quarterly shipment. And this is

824
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,760
how much I believe in this company. And I look,

825
00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:11,880
I pay for the products. I mean, yes, we get

826
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,559
paid to promotable the show, but I pay for the products.

827
00:41:14,119 --> 00:41:19,079
So Magnesian Breakthrough Cornerstone sleep relaxation Regularity, that's the product

828
00:41:19,199 --> 00:41:20,280
most people know them about.

829
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Speaker 3: I use that before bed P three.

830
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,599
Speaker 1: Oh m, this is so good at keeping food and

831
00:41:27,679 --> 00:41:30,119
the byproduct of food moving through your body. And you

832
00:41:30,199 --> 00:41:32,079
think that doesn't matter, but it does because it goes

833
00:41:32,119 --> 00:41:35,679
to your body's ability to cleanse itself, to properly use

834
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,719
water to stay hydrated in the right way. Mass symes

835
00:41:40,039 --> 00:41:42,400
because of all the protein I eat, and yesterday was

836
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,280
a heavy lifting day, so I was at three hundred

837
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,880
and eighty grams of protein. Just pro tip, if you're

838
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,000
eating that much protein and you are not having about

839
00:41:51,039 --> 00:41:53,639
four hundred and fifty ounces of water a day, look

840
00:41:53,679 --> 00:41:56,960
forward to kidney stones. So when I'm eating that much protein,

841
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,679
I want to make sure I get the most for

842
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,920
my money. Mass symes creates more amino acids from the

843
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,679
proteins I eat. I think it's like two thousand times more.

844
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:05,519
Speaker 3: It's a lot more.

845
00:42:06,679 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: And I stack that the product that I get quarterly

846
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that I most use most rarely is called sleep breakthrough.

847
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,000
But for instance, we have a night where we're out

848
00:42:18,079 --> 00:42:20,320
really late because it's well late for me. I get

849
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,960
up at four and it's when we have our life

850
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,320
group at church. I know I'm going to get five

851
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,280
hours of sleep tops, so I want it to be

852
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:30,159
the best sleep.

853
00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 3: So I take magnes and breakthrough in the way home.

854
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: Then I have a scoop of sleep breakthrough and I

855
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,800
follow that with water and man, my sleep is so solid.

856
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,480
Sometimes my sleep is better because I just sleep five

857
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hours better. I don't even wake up, and I get

858
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up and go to the gym. So you can have

859
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this this and adjust it to yourself the things you need.

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Speaker 1: You'll get free exclusive officers, exclusive discounts, exclusive information it

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spotty Messages dot com, slash todd. The strangest thing happened, Zach,

866
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,159
and I thought this was illegal. I thought it was

867
00:43:08,199 --> 00:43:12,199
illegal for companies to compete in the Navidia ecosystem. But

868
00:43:12,519 --> 00:43:15,800
then again, the Chinese Communist Party doesn't care. They have

869
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,400
launched the Chinese Communist Party, well, not them, but a

870
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,039
company that they bless has launched something called deep Seek.

871
00:43:22,039 --> 00:43:25,960
And in a single day, Monday, was it the twenty

872
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:31,400
seventh or so, the video dropped seventeen percent.

873
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, because of the entry of one new company. And

874
00:43:36,199 --> 00:43:38,840
I was looking at all the debates, people say buy

875
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,599
the dip by the dip, by the dip.

876
00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 5: People are idiots.

877
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 3: Okay, please please explorin No, this is.

878
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 5: The problem with buying a company that expensive.

879
00:43:50,039 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 6: I mean you got to the company was worth three

880
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,280
and a half trillion dollars trading at thirty times revenue.

881
00:43:54,559 --> 00:43:57,239
I understand that our entire culture and our entire financial

882
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:01,000
markets have become completely value agnostic. Yep, nobody no value

883
00:44:01,039 --> 00:44:04,480
if it bit him in the backside. But it's ridiculous, Okay,

884
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,159
so it I And I've said before, I think in

885
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,400
Video is an amazing company. I think they produce amazing things. Okay,

886
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,440
what you have to believe if you think the stock

887
00:44:13,559 --> 00:44:15,320
is a bye by the dip here, you got to

888
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,400
believe that those margins seventy percent are sustainable.

889
00:44:18,679 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 5: Okay.

890
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 6: What Deep Seek really showed us, and I think the

891
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:26,320
lesson to glean from this is that those really powerful

892
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,800
chips I think are really important in the early stages

893
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,639
of building LLLM models to kind of build.

894
00:44:32,119 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 5: The analogy we've been using is to kind of build

895
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:35,320
the foundation.

896
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 6: But once the foundation is built, everybody can piggyback off

897
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,719
everybody else's work and kind of start from there. So

898
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,679
what you're seeing, or what deep Seek is intimating and

899
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,679
what Ali Baba is now backing up and seconding. We'll

900
00:44:47,679 --> 00:44:49,840
have to see the veracity of these reports that came out.

901
00:44:50,199 --> 00:44:55,119
But markets are really adaptable things, and they and they

902
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,800
find it right. They adapt, they evolve, they move, they

903
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,480
figure out when the gap between I mean, the chip

904
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,599
that you think you need and the next best available

905
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,960
is forty thousand dollars per chip, that's a really big

906
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:15,639
window for engineers to come in and try to figure out, right, like,

907
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,519
maybe they can't save you all of it, but if

908
00:45:18,559 --> 00:45:21,599
they can do the same thing with half the number

909
00:45:21,679 --> 00:45:25,119
of the expensive chips, that saves billions of dollars. So

910
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,000
our whole approach has been Look, their chips are amazing.

911
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,400
What Nvidia has done is incredible, no knock on them.

912
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,320
But the current stock price is based like, the only

913
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,199
way the current stock price makes any sense is if

914
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,639
you think seventy percent margins are available or are sustainable.

915
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,559
If you think seventy percent margins are sustainable in chips,

916
00:45:47,079 --> 00:45:48,760
then you don't understand the chip industry.

917
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:49,639
Speaker 5: It's just that simple.

918
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,079
Speaker 6: You're talking about one of the most cyclical industries in

919
00:45:52,119 --> 00:45:55,400
the entire world. Okay, and you're also counting on that

920
00:45:55,519 --> 00:45:59,159
there will be no technological breakthroughs that enable people to

921
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,920
use less of those GPUs. So I look, I I mean,

922
00:46:04,039 --> 00:46:06,159
I'm sitting here looking at a market right now with

923
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,199
Apple with a what a garbage company that's turned into

924
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,599
trading it forty times earnings with no growth, So you know, I.

925
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 5: Could it go up? Sure?

926
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,519
Speaker 6: I just think that there are so many fatter pitches.

927
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,639
The other thing, if you guys think you're being really

928
00:46:23,679 --> 00:46:27,320
smart buying Nvidio on a dip, a billion dollars worth

929
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,920
of investors did the exact same thing yesterday, okay, So

930
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,280
you're not out of it, right, And the reason they're

931
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,199
buying it, they're buying it completely value agnostically. They have

932
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,880
no idea what the real valuation of it is. They go, oh,

933
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,760
it's only trading at fifty eight to pe. When you

934
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,760
look at their earnings growth and you look at them, go, guys,

935
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,360
they're at three point four trillion dollar market cap with

936
00:46:46,639 --> 00:46:48,599
less than what was it, three hundred and fifty billion

937
00:46:48,679 --> 00:46:52,480
in revenue. They're trading at thirty times sales right like

938
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,639
and again, if you think they're going to sell another

939
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,360
five to ten years worth of chips seventy percent margins,

940
00:46:59,639 --> 00:47:03,119
then yeah, to buy here, but what what that would

941
00:47:03,159 --> 00:47:06,320
take is something that we've never witnessed before and never

942
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,800
seen and has never occurred in history. And you also

943
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,679
have to assume that no other company is going to

944
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figure out how to arbitrage that forty thousand dollars spread

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between the two prices. Basically, you have to think that

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in Vidia is the only one that knows anything and

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everybody else just bunch idiots and it just it.

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Speaker 5: So where's the stock? Who knows? I mean, the stock's

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trading at thirty times? I mean, you know, I wouldn't

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buy it with your money or.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you matter since you manage my money, thank

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you for that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't bought it with your money. Yeah, but no,

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this is just people and this is what happens.

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Speaker 6: So right, nobody's paying attention to any any of the

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underlying fundamentals.

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Speaker 5: And then they're looking, well, the.

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Speaker 6: Stock was there before, and you go, guys, when the

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stock was there before, the company was growing revenues at

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twenty percent a year, it's not now now.

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Speaker 5: In Nvidia still is right, But I yeah, I just

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I could be wrong now.

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Speaker 6: That I'm speaking it, and I'm speaking about it in

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such certain terms, I probably will be so CONVIDIOSI, but no,

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I just you know, when I look at so many

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of the other opportunities out there, and you want me

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to buy a three and a half trillion dollar company

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at thirty times revenue, I'm good.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, Yeah, that makes perfect, perfect sense. Always good to

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have wise counsel today with Zach Abraham. Thank you for

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letting me wear the flannel shirt for most of the

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show that I got horribly hot because I thought there's

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horrible big lighting in here. And say hi to the

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Bypocks and we will see you over here in the

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high mountains. Freemerker, oh the twentieth I keep forgetting to

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speak into this. I am speaking at a CEO to

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CEO event in Washington State in Bellevue on Feb twenty.

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It's in the morning, and I'm hoping to have you

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sitting at the leadership meeting, and I happen to mention

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this to your wife, and then I forgot that I

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told you because I want to tell part of your

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story up there, yeah, in front of the CEOs. So

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you can go find this CEO to CEO. We'll put

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this on the websites and alex Next week we'll start.

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Speaker 3: Promoting this and we'll get the link out there. It's

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everybody with you. This is the Todd Hermer Show. Please go,

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be well, be strong, be kind, and please make every

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effort to walk in the light of Christ.