Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Dynasty Dude podcast. I'm your host,
Corey Evans. The NFL Combine has come and gone, and
this week's episode is about just that. I have eight
NFL Combine winners and losers, five winners, three losers. As
a whole, the takeaway from Indianapolis this past week and
should be that the quarterback group is thin and rather weak.
As advertised, running back is loaded, are you one of
the best running back classes of recent memory, at least
athletically along with production profiles. Wide receivers tested better than expected,
so that's interesting development wise in terms of our interest
in drafting them in Dynasty redrafts. This ring and summer
and tight ends as a whole did not test all
that great, but more of the notable names didn't test
in general, so I still think the tight end class
will be impressive with a few quality starters to emerge
in plenty of untapped potential to pro level. So I
have eight NFL Combine miners and losers to discuss on
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Speaker 1: First for a winner is Terrence Ferguson, tight end of Oregon.
Speaker 2: He could have boosted his.
Speaker 1: Stock into the day two range, which is rounds two
to three, after being viewed as more of a fringe
day two, if not lock for Day three rounds four
to seven. Prior to the combine, checked in at sixty
five to forty seven, posted a position best among tight
ends with a four point six to three second forty
yard dash that's cooking at that body frame, a one
point five to five second ten yard splits, which was
tied for the best among tight ends with Notre Dame's
product Mitchell Evans. A thirty nine X vertical for Ferguson
ranked best among tight ends, and a ten foot two
inch broad ranked third best among tight ends. All around,
a spectacular athletic or analytical perspective on the profile that
Ferguson offers out of Oregon, and he showed suddenness natural
passaging traits during drills on the field, which are rather
evident from watching this film.
Speaker 2: At the college level, he's.
Speaker 1: Had eighty five catches with the past two seasons. Ferguson
is still outside of my top five my pre draft
tight end rankings. However, this combine showing makes him more
consideration between the top three to top five because it's
a very solid combination of athletic production, let alone the
unique testing traits for his size. Loser at titum would
be Gunner Helm out of Texas.
Speaker 2: But I will save right off the bat that.
Speaker 1: What Helm did on the field with quin viewers at
times Archie Man is enough for me to bypass the
lack of athleticism displayed at the combine. Sure, it might
push him out of Day two and into day three,
that's debatable because with Helm, his pass catching talent is
his best act route at tight end.
Speaker 2: As a prospect.
Speaker 1: Usually that comes with solid, if not standout testing scores.
Speaker 2: Not the case for him. Let's get to it.
Speaker 1: Sixty five two forty one, so almost identical to Terrence Ferguson.
Yet Helm's athletic measurables were downright underwhelming. A four point
eight four second forty yard dash third worst among tight ends,
a one point sixty nine second ten yard split the
worst among tight ends, and a thirty inch vertical the
worst among tight ends. He's salvaged and otherwise horrible, showing
with a respectable seven point one to five second three
cone drill for some change of direction and agility. However,
the speed adjustice scores of his forty and ten yard split,
not to mention the lack of explosion on the vertical,
are concerning. He had sixty receptions in twenty twenty four
with Texas, so Gunner Helm from being what most thought
was a Day two lock to now will he be
a Day three pick or slide further than expected in
Day two? No longer a surefire tight end prospect. As
is the case with any upcoming rookie, the puzzle of
evaluating on field talent, tape, and then the NFL combine
are all pieces. The issue here is that the scores
are so bad it at least should make you reevaluate
or rethink your perspective on Helm. I still believe in
the talent and what he put on tape, which is
why I'm dismissing it a bit, but I'm not ignoring
the fact that his forty ten years split and vertical
or outright horrible compared to his peers, let alone tight
end in general. One of the clear winners from this
year's combine is Baseial Teuton, running back out of Virginia Tech.
He's five nine two oh six, and that reminds me
body frame and stylistically at running back of Aaron Jones,
who's five to nine two eight base Shall. Tutan's forty
yard dash was a four point three to two second score.
It led all running and for context purposes, that's faster
than Saquon Barkley and Jamier Gibbs tested at their respective combines,
and actually the same time as Devon ah Chan, which
is a great film and athletic comparison for Tutin. In fact,
there's only been three running backs with faster forty times
than Suton since twenty thirteen. In those names were Chris
Johnson a four point two to four second forty yard dash,
dre Archer four point two six second forty yard dash,
and Keith Marshall a four point three to one second
forty yard dash The question now is does Bashal Tutan
actually pan out in the NFL like Chris Johnson did,
or Devon h Chan even Barkley Gibbs obviously, or is
he fast with the track background and becomes irrelevant at
the pro level like Archer or Marshall.
Speaker 2: That remains to be seen.
Speaker 1: Other measurables that stood out for tutin testing wise, a
one point four to nine second ten yard split led
all running backs, a forty and a half binge vertical
led all running backs, and a ten foot ten inch
broad tied for second among running backs. Drops in fumbles
were red flags on Tutan's college tape and the reason
why I was not as optimistic about him entering Indianapolis
this past weekend. However, such a strong combine performance is
surely going to ease those concerns because the on field
athleticism and ability is self evident. Two years with North
Carolina A and T and then two years with Virginia
Tech in twenty twenty four, Touton went one to eighty three,
eleventhy nine and fifteen scores on the ground six point
three yards per rep, and then he had fifty catches
for good measure with Virginia Tech over the past two seasons,
not necessarily shooting Tutan into the top five among this
year's load running back class Top ten, Top twelve. That's
now a conversation, and he is in the Day two
mix not a lock, but where he was once viewed
to be a Day three selection Bashall Tutin delivery perhaps
the best performance of any position at this year's combine
and boosted his stock tremendously in the process. Quinn Shawn Jukins,
running back out of how States, checked in at eight
to twenty one. He had an eleven foot broad jump
that's first among running backs for his size.
Speaker 2: That's fantastic.
Speaker 1: A one point five one second ten yard split which
tied for second A running backs this year, and that
displays elite acceleration or initial burst. Again at six feet
to twenty one, a one point five once to ak a
ten yard split is outstanding. A thirty eight and a
halfage vertical tie for third best of my running backs.
Even a four point four point forty was not position leading,
but notable. Judkins spent two years at Old Miss and
then transferred for twenty twenty four to how States. A
one to ninety four ten sixty to fourteen rushing efforts
for five and a half yards per tote in twenty
twenty four, and he had fifty nine career receptions. Now,
Judkins is not the pass catcher out of the backfield
that his peer of Ahiose State Trevan Henderson is. Henderson
tested well but not as dominant as Judkins. So now
the conversation of who goes first it does seem to
be more team specific zone concept based. All that being said,
quin Shawn Juckkins could push for a late first round selection.
This performance was that good and put teams on notice.
Worst case, he subvented himself as a surefire Day two pick.
Very intrigued, get excited to see how NFL talent evaluators
choose to go between Judkins or Henderson for today's game.
In terms of versatility, Henderson still seems to better fit
with the big play up side. But make no mistake
that Quincheon is a short yard or specialist with untapped
potential as a receiver out of the backfield, and the
numbers he put up in the broad ten yard split,
vertical and even respectable forty showcase at three down talent
have a quick break up be back with four more
winners and losers from this year's NFL combine. Before I
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loser at running back would be Caleb Johnson out of
Iowa six one two twenty four, so not all that
far off from Quinn Shawn Jupkins at six feet to
twenty one. Johnson disappointing when it comes to speed straight
line speed. A four point five seven forty yard dash
tied for fifth worst among running backs. A one point
sixty two second ten yard split tied for the worst
of my running backs, so it shows that his initial
speed or first is not top tier, even though his
tape might have foreshadowed it, and it could be indication
that he has built up speed instead of again that
initial explosion. It's proof though, that while Caleb Johnson excelled
in Iowa's zone concept, there's no guarantee he does the
same with the NFL level because he seems more steamed
dependent than others in this year's load of running back class.
Not to say that Johnson cannot adapt, but it's not
a four conclusion that he is going to become a
starter day one, and the draft capital will tell all,
especially when we consider he's more of a one dimensional
rusher for a second down than capable pass catcher, a
bit raw and that element of a skill set, so
he's not a true three down workhorse. He spent three
years with Iowa with really good production. In twenty twenty
four as a rusher, he was a two forty fifteen,
thirty seven and twenty one rushing efforts outstanding six point
four yards per clip, only twenty nine career receptions that's
the downside to evaluating Johnson. We now have bad adjusted
speed scores at six point two twenty four with the
four point five and forty and one point six two
second ten yards split to double down on what was
more of a rushing profile than rushing amerceiving profile. I'm
not writing off Caleb Johnson, of course not. His film
is a joy to watch, and there's clear NFL traits
evaluating though him against his peers. Perhaps he's not right
there behind Ashton Gentenny longer as an RB two candidate
in this year's rookie class, whereas others like Omari and Hampton, Quinn,
Shawn Judkins, or Treyvan Henderson. It's either to be in
that RB two mix or at least safer bets. Matthew
Golden wide receiver Texas stole the show.
Speaker 2: If not base Shall Tuton.
Speaker 1: Matthew Golden was the standout for offensive skill position talent
five to eleven one ninety one, a four point twenty
nine second forty yard dash blazing speed first among wide
receivers and a one point four nine second ten yard
split also first among wie receivers. I've been on record
tauty numerous times this offseason in the pre draft process
that Golden could be this year's e Xavier Worthy, who
ran a four point two to one forty yard dash
as we remember last year at the Combine at five
eleven one ts T five, So Golden is the same height,
but he has thirty or so pounds give her take
on Worthy, yet ran eerily close when it comes to.
Speaker 2: A forty yard dash time.
Speaker 1: With top end speed, the ability to function on the
slot or out wide consistent hands a large catcher four size,
there's a good, if not likely chance that Golden enters
now the wide receiver one overall conversation alongside Teed McMillan,
Ruther Burden, Travis Hunter, the wide receiver cornerback conundrum there
or even at Mecha Guka in this year's class. Golden
is that good and there's been that much buzz that
has certainly deserved the steam to this point now confirmed
with these results at the Combine. He spent two years
with Houston and then Wilmet Texas A fifty eight nine
eighty seven nine logs seventeen yards per grab this past
season in twenty twenty four, Matthew Golden is a highlight
from this past week in Indianapolis. Expect his stock, both
in real life and fantasy football circles to skyrocket as
a result. Ts Johnson a loser at wide receiver from
the Combine out of Oregon, there is red flags all around.
Five ten one thirty four, one hundred and fifty four
pounds is almost impossible to ignore or make a push
or him being relevant to the NFL.
Speaker 2: That is so small.
Speaker 1: Sure Worthy checked in at one CD five. That's almost
a ten pound difference, and that is notable. I'm not
saying that Tesz Johnson doesn't have a chance at the
pro level. He's going to be drafted, yet, I think
the comparison is Tanke Dell, and as we've seen, Tank Dell,
to no fault of his own, simply cannot stay healthy.
Sometimes you're too small, even though you dominate the college level.
The NFL becomes a different beast based on it being
faster and they're being bigger, stronger, faster defenders around you.
Let's dive a bit deeper on tes because the weight
is only one part of the bad showing at the Combine,
a four point five forty yard dash was the eighth
slowest score among wideouts. Speed is supposed to be the
name to Tes's game. We saw at the Senior Bowl
and even at certain times when you look at next
gen NFL stats that is mould p hour speed are
better than the forty so perhaps it is more build
up than initial.
Speaker 2: But at one point five thirty second.
Speaker 1: Ten yard split doesn't really do much for us either,
because let's be honest, for a receiver this small again
five to ten one y four for Tes, if you
can't separate up the line of scrimmage with that initial
ten yards split, then press coverage becomes a serious issue. Corners, linebackers,
safeties depending on coverage, are going to push him around
like a middle school or a high schooler.
Speaker 2: Compared to other NFL talents.
Speaker 1: There has to be creativity for Tes Johnson at the
pro level from a head coaching or OC perspective for
him to be utilized correctly. A thirty seven inch vertical okay,
not great. Ten foot eleven inch broad is like your
fourth best among wide receivers, so that does line up
with an explosion on tape and then what saved otherwise
a horrible showing at the combine for test Johnson was
a six point sixty five second three conjural that was
actually first among wideouts. That does demonstrate top end troderrea quickness,
and first three years with Troy two with Oregon eighty
three eight ninety eight ten scores in twenty twenty four
with Dylan Gabriel at quarterback that's ten point eight yards
per catch. I am lost on how to evaluate tes
Johnson because there was so much excitement surrounding his name
at the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 2: Checking in though, what five.
Speaker 1: Ten one four is hard to you get pasted because
the success rate for a wide receiver with that body
size is minimal at the pro level. Case of point
recent example again being Tank Dell, who went healthy.
Speaker 2: Sure him and CJ.
Speaker 1: Shroud are a great combo, yet durability availability because of
Dell's injuries have piled up and made him an unreliable
asset for us in fantasy. So I feel that Tes
Johnson can be in that same career arc. Let's see though,
if he gets Day two draft capital, because that could
mean NFL teams are overlooking the size limitations and the
disappointing analytics with his athletic profile and last but not least,
a winner a wide receiver it's Jalen Noll out of
Iowa State. His peer Jayden Higgins also had a strong showing,
but I want to focus on Noel five to ten.
About ninety four, a forty one and a half ins
vertical was tied for first among lide receivers with Sam
Brown June out of Miami eleven foot two ins broad
first among livee receivers irrespectable four point three nine forty
at that size and a one point five one second
ten yards split. Not to mention, if you watch the
on field receiver drills, most notably the gauntlet, Nole's efforts
during said drills were easy to notice. He was running
at what appeared to be full speed while others were
jogging or did not ramp up two one hundred percent,
and that just goes to show how committed and bought
in from a work at the respective Jalen Nole is.
The ability to become a dangerous slot weapon for a
NFL team is now reality. Think Khalil Shakir meets Christian
Kirk for comparison or ceiling the pro level. This past
season at Iowa State, he went eighty eleven, ninety four
and eight for fourteen point nine yards per catch. The
debate between the teammates Jalen Nole and Jaden Higgins has
become a fun one. Either Noel the slot threat or
Higgins the next best acts of perimeter receiver to Ted McMillan,
who could play inside and outside, It'll be fun to
watch a storyline. At this point, both seem like Day
two selections, so a rounds two to three. It's a
matter of landing spot and scheme fit over draft capital
at this point because both are really good talents that
will do it what we all enjoyed my NFL combine
and losers from this year's event quick recap. I had
winner Terence Ferguson tight end of Oregon, loser Gunner Heelm
tight end of Texas, winner bay Shall Tuton running back,
Virginia Tech winner Quinn Shawn Judkins running back of Ohio
State loser running back Caleb Johnson, and Iowa winner Matthew
Golden wide receiver, Texas loser Tess Johnson wide receiver Oregon
and winner Jalen Noel.
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