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Dogmanencounters dot com forward Slash Podcast. Tonight's guest is Marshall. Marshall,

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welcome back, Thanks X.

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Speaker 2: It good to be well.

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Speaker 1: That's great having you for everyone listening. Marshall was featured

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on episode four forty five, and on that episode he

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shared some experiences with us about a near you or

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here research is Dogmen in Ohio or He described the

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dogmen as being almost docile, but since that episode aired,

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unfortunately things have taking the change, I guess you could say.

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Before we get to that though, For the people who

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missed that episode, Marshall, please give us a brief bio

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in yourself.

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Speaker 2: I'm sixty four years old, a retired body man and painter.

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I enjoyed the great outdoors tremendously and I've been a

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dog man and bigfoot researcher for about thirty years and

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I really enjoy it. It's been a great thirty years.

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Speaker 1: Well, a lot of people who get into this, they

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don't last long doing it. The fact that you've done

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it for so long. That just tells me you really

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know what you're doing out there. Yeah, that's impressive. It

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really is, Vick.

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Speaker 2: It's about staying safe, and it's about staying focused in

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what your objective is when you're out there, and not

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to provoke a wild animal into doing something that you

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don't want it to do. And what I'm going to

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talk about tonight, some of the things that I've witnessed

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out there and seen I think is changed the way

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these animals have been peaceful, which now seems to be

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turning the other direction. And I believe it has to

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do a lot with the way people's been out there

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and the way they've been basically treating the wildlife out there.

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And I've noticed that they're getting more and more aggressive

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or protective of that area that I've been researching in.

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Speaker 1: That really is a shame. Sounds like it was a

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great area to investigate in. But yeah, definitely that's not

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the case now. But before we get into that, for

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the people who missed episode four forty five, please tell

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them about those prior encounters that you talked about on

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that show, just if you can breathe over them to

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bring us up to speed. That'd be great.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, we had the incident where my grandson and

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I were chased out when they were hunting or whatever

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the situation was, but they never offered to harm us.

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And then I've been talking about how docile the animals

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had been, and I go out there all the time.

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I was able to take photographs and such as all this,

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and we were talking also about what would be causing

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the animals to be so non aggressive, and so things

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have changed now, and that's what I've been going to

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bring to light here today, I hope.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it sure sounds like things have changed. But before

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we get to that, though, on that episode, you told

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us about an encounter you had with something that wasn't

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a dog man though, Please tell us about that experience.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was in Jeffersonville, Indiana. I lived in apartments

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that were close to railroad tracks and wood and it

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was a real strange, foggy night that night, and I

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got up about one something any morning. I can't remember

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the exact time now, that I was on the phone

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with a friend of mine who has now passed away,

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but he was a helicopter pilot in Vietnam and we

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were talking and my blinds were vertical and they were

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half open. And as I approached it, come into the

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livingy from my room and the bedroom light was only

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light on, I saw a creature walking by. I had

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a tail about three feet long, had a head like

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a German shepherd, had humongous shoulders, and built like a weightlift.

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I mean really, The back was v'd about i'd say

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eight nine feet maybe, and it was a light brown,

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but the head was more of a yellow and I

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wasn't ready for that. That absolutely terrified me, and so

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I pulled a gun and as I told in the

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first episode, and go down beside my bedroom. Wintered because

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I thought it was going to come around the corner

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and come in through the window. Don't because I told

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I'd been in the military and the only thing you

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remember your training and things like that. But that's basically

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what it was. So yeah, it was pretty It was

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pretty scary.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure it was. I can only imagine what

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must have been going through your head that night. That

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is intense. And from the way you described it, it

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doesn't sound like a normal dog man, but it kind

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of checks off a lot of the boxes for still

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being a dog man. If you don't think that's what

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it was. What do you think it was then?

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Speaker 2: Where Wolf? I guess I don't know. It was just

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walking down the sidewalk like you wouldn't broad daylight. I mean,

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there were lights on, but the fog was so unusual

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that night. Vic the big lights that were on the

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across the parking lot from the other building, and then

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the fog, it just looked like a big white curtain

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and this thing stud You couldn't have missed it if

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you tried. It's just walking down the sidewalk right in

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front of my window.

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Speaker 1: I had to be awfully creepy, especially on a fog

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night like that.

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Speaker 2: It was strange that the thought was really weird. I've

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never seen thing like it. It was really strange.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it was. If you've had a dog mean

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encounter that you need help dealing with, or if you'd

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like to be a guest on the show, please go

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to Dogmanencounters dot com and submit a report. If you've

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had a bigfoot sighting, we'ld like to be a guest

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on one of my two big foot podcasts, please go

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to my Bigfoot Sighting dot com. All right, now that

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you've brought us up to speed. Let's talk about these

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recent experiences you've had. Please give us every last detail

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that comes to mind.

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Speaker 2: All right, First of all, you know I told in

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the first episode that the interview that I had my

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grandkids with me, which I don't do anymore, and my

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grandson and I were out and we were walking along

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beside the little road deck goes down through the woods

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and off to the side of the road in the

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bushes there my grandson goes, look that he picked up

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a T shirt. This shirt, This shirt wasn't tore by

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a human being, it was it was it looked like

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it had been clawed off of somebody. It was absolutely shredded,

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and it kind of made me, you know, put me

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on guard. Like, you know, I know they're out there,

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and I've been dealing with them for years, but when

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you know, seeing something like this, you can't help but think,

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you know, what's going on here, and where are the rangers,

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and why isn't you start thinking if they know about

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anything like this, why isn't there signs up or something

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to warn people. But I think as we go on,

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VIC it'll be self explanatory. Some of the other things

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that that I'm going to bring out, so if you

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don't mind, I'd like to. The t shirt was the

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first incident that got us put on guard. The second

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was we were out and we were we hiked through

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the woods and they love to do that, and we

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were hiking through the area that has been the most

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sightings since I've been going out there for nearly thirty years,

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and we come across the tent thick and the tent

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looked newer, but it was smashed to the ground. It

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was a large one, and it looked like somebody out

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our body was inside the tent, And so I told

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my grandkids stay back because I didn't want them to

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see that if that's what the case was, some homeless

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man or something had died out there. But Vic, that

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wasn't the case at all. And so I went over

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there and it was water soaked and everything, and I

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lifted up where the door was, and I took some

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of the tent props and I propped it up and

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stick so I could get inside. VIC. Inside of the

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tent was all brand new hunting gear, which we calculated

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at around seven hundred dollars including the tent. What was

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so alarming about it is I noticed that in the

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very right hand corner inside the tent, as you would

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be facing out, somebody had discharged a twelve gage shotgun

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out the door, and the shotgun had discharged the casing

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off to the right. And why, the question I asked

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is why would somebody be in that tenth to begin

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with out there? And second of all, what was he

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shooting at me? Knowing the area like I do, I

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believed that this gentleman or whoever it was, had spent

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the night out there and he was strength you had

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been collecting bones. We found a bunch of bones that

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the guy had been collecting inside the tent. For what reason,

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I don't know, but I have reason to believe that

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if those bones had anything to do with the dog

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man are at all, or these things, they had caught

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him in the mill of the night. He had to

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fight his way out, and that's what it looked like.

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T shirt and now this that it seems that the

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dog men are just getting more aggressive. They're not like

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they were, They're not at all docile like they were,

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in this area. Used to see people out walking their

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dogs in the afternoon, and met a few friends out there,

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made friends, But there's nobody out there. And I noticed

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even during hunting season, there weren't that many people out there,

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which I find to be unusual. And it's a recreational area.

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People getting you know, bring their canoes or however they

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and they come down the river, and dog men and

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bigfoot of course usually stay around areas that have rivers

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or a good water source because as you know, deer

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and everything, they got a water and they use that

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for honey grounds. But I went back into that area.

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I'm going to slip this in between some of the

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whatever what I tell you what happened with the rangers,

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I begin to go out back into that area again,

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and in my opinion, I think that maybe the thing

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that happened in the tent, and I think there's been

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violence towards these things to the point that I think

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they're starting to get either they're getting more aggressive. Either

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they could be because of that or because there's other

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dog men maybe packs moving into the area. It could

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be a thing over territory. I don't know. Being honest,

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I'm a truthful man. If I don't know, I don't know,

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but everything is pointing to aggression. And to the point

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now that I've limited my time going out there, I

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don't go out like I did after seeing all this.

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I did report what I've been seeing. A man was

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out there with two women that are wildlife people that

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study wildlife in the area, and you know, I guess

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do talents on the animals I see and sign and

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so on and so on. But they they told me

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the man looked like he was dressed like a ranger,

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but I don't think he was. He just belonged to

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some other department. But he strictly told me to call

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the rangers and tell them what I had told him.

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And you know, so the things that I mentioned in

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this interview are are enough to make a person understand

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that this is not a place that I think they

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want to go, and if they if the aggression content

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continues to escalate like it is VIC, I don't recommend

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anybody going there for their own safety. And this brings

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up another discussion point I had talked to you earlier

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about these websites and my issue, my reason for being

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on if it's okay with VIC is safety and things

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I've been seeing it worries me and Vic. You know,

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as I said before, the only reason I chose this

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chance was because he had a heart for the people,

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and I put that on my last comment on the

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first interview and I still feel the same, and so

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I thought Vic would be the perfect person to do

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this with again, and I liked also, if it's okay, Vic,

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I appreciate the comments that people said about you and

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your show and asking me to come back. I really

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appreciate that. But I think people need to understand what

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we're dealing with here. This is an animal that was calm,

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cool and collective and now is getting on the dangerous side.

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nothing being said about it. And as I mentioned a

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moment ago about these websites, Vic, I have been watching

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some of this stuff and people, these lies creepypasta, as

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I heard you say once, are giving people the idea

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that Bigfoot and dog Man or pets. That is a

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very danger US way of looking at this and saying,

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you know, people make up these stories and I know

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there's not truth to it because I've been in the

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woods with these animals for thirty years. Bigfoot and dog man,

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and I've been studying them and I'm very, very honest person.

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I do not write to people, And like I said,

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I am concerned that if it's not just this area,

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but other areas, there's getting more and more of them,

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and it could be that there's territorial fights over these

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areas that are good hunting grounds, water and such. And

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I believe there would be because these things are violent normally,

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and either another pack has moved into this area or

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they're sick and tired of people. And I guess there

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could be. What I said before, it could have to

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do with maybe what we talked about people releasing sounds

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or what's the word I used before. Well, you know,

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I can't think of it off here, but they're releasing

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things sound waves and frequencies into the air that could

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be causing some of this. And I don't know what

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it is, but the whole situation is getting bad. And

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that's my point in coming here today and sharing some

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of these things with people. Whatever happened to that man

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in that tent, because I picked up all the year

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and it's fine that they let me keep it, but

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the point is that person never came back for it.

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And that tent had been in that condition for at

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least six months. What it looked like to me, it

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would be completely abandoned. This person either didn't make it

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out or they ran out and never came back. So

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whatever it was, either killed them or it scared them

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some bad that they didn't want to come back. And

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all of us know that, if it's all right to

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say this that sometimes I think the authorities are not

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exactly honest when people disappear. I think that some of

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the other things I've read seeing on the internet where

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officers have told people off to the side what actually

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done the killing, I think for reasons of money or whatever,

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the reason is, they don't want people to know. And

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I think it's important that they should at least post

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these areas and let people know that there are dangers there,

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because as I said on the first episode, there were

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little cameras that were like twenty feet apart. They know

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they've got to know about these things. And when I

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did contact the rangers, they got very stern about me.

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I told them I've been out there for years. I've

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seen things out there that people wouldn't believe, and they

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got very stern with me and told me that if

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I ever see anything else like I have all of

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these things that I'm going to tell you that they

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need to know. So I told them I would. And

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the next thing I'd like to bring up is, this

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was kind of unusual. Uh the last time I was

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out there and I was on the Blacktop road where

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it's I can bring they used to that used to

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be an area where they bought out all the they

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bought out properties and turned it into a dump and

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then they replanted the area and turned it into a

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wildlife resource resort or reserve. And that's why, you know,

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they turned into a place where people can come out.

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And they've got areas where you can't hunt, areas where

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you can. And it's the areas where you can't hunt

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that are the worst out in this particular area. And

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the thing that I'm going to say next is I

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must I must have been one of the first people

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that came out there after this incident because the person

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they were running, they were it looked like they were

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you know, I know, detective, but they were running for

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their life there. It's what it looked like. The they

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were water bottles, brand new ones, like somebody had left

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their backpack unzipped and were running. And when they came

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out of the wood path, they made a left real fast,

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heading toward the parking lot, and there were water bottles,

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unopened water bottles. There were like six seven of them,

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maybe know strong, for about thirty feet, especially on the

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turn where they had came out, and there were a

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pair of women's white underwear was hanging on a little

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small tree thing that but bushs you make that turns.

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So it told me that, you know, probably a bunch

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of teenagers were out there messing around, and when they

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came out, she must have been carrying her underclothes and

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maybe got her pants on it. I don't know, or

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she ran out of their naked, but whatever the situation was,

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they seen something and whatever they saw terrified him. In

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all the years that I've been out there, VIC never

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have I seen this, but the things that I've been

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seeing and the behavior of these animals, I believe that

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they seen a dog man and I think they were

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very lucky to get out of there. But they were moving,

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they were really moving. And that was the one thing

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that because it was so recent and they sent rangers

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out there to investigate it, because I left the water bottles.

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I didn't touch anything, VIC, except for off the underwear

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off the bush with my foot because it kind of

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looked bad. But Vic, they went out there right after

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I told them to investigate it. But I'm sure you

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wouldn't hear anything about it. There's something else that I

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would like to bring up that I did bring up

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in the first episode, if I may. Out in the

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area out east from here to Shaka County, I was

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informed by a guy told me that they had somebody

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had taken head found an arm and it looked like

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the arm of a monkey, and which the reason that

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I'm throwing this in it's to prove my point. And

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they took it to the ranger station out there, and

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they asked them if it would be all right for

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us to contact you in a week or so when

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you find out what it is. Well, we know it

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was a bigfoot arm of a young bigfoot, and the

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people had called back to the ranger station a week

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later and they simply told them, we don't know what

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you're talking about. So after, you know, we had heard

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that in the rangers, they had told me that, like

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I said, they were alarmed about it. But I don't

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look to hear anything back from him, Vic, And like

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I was saying, the young people going after that want

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to be researchers, and I advised the extreme caution. These

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animals are getting very unpredictable. Whether like I said, it's

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frequencies are or other animals, other packs that moved in

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these areas, I don't know. But all the years I've

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been out there, Vic, I have never seen anything like this,

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and a change that's so sudden and the behavior is unreal.

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It's just unreal. And I want to if it's okay

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to you, after I tell this other one here, I'll

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go back into that subject if I can. I was

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out there a little bit before then the thing with

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the water bottles and the couple running out. I went

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out there and I had my cameras on, and I

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went into the area that I had described before was

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a very very very good areas where we were chased

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out of and heard the howling, and I went out

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there by myself and sat and I sat out there

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for about two hours, and I started hearing them coming,

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sticks breaking some larger ones. You can tell when they're coming.

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They're first they're going to investigating and see what and

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who you are. And as I sat there with my cameras,

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I noticed to my right and normally they try to

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stay right out of side, VIC, but you can't help

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but hear them. But they try to stay out of

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sight like Bigfoot does, just out of your site range. Well,

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this one just messed up a little bit. He was

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a little too close. His upper body was completely covered

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by brush, but I saw his legs walking and it

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was a dog man. It was a dog and I

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watched him as they came around, trying to be as

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quietly as they possible, but I could hear the sticks breaking.

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They completely surrounded me, and I took a photo of

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two of them, and my back was to the first

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one that I didn't hear anything behind me or anything. VIC.

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I don't believe I did, but I was. I had

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the video going from over my shoulder because I'd know

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from prior dealings with with Bigfoot and such they will

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come up behind you. And I was right and it did.

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And it was about well, let's say, thirty feet, and

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it was looked like a younger one coming up behind me.

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He was brown. You can he's perfectly in view, and

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he's behind a fallen dead log that didn't have any

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leaves on it, that was partially sticking up in the air,

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and he had just got to the end of that

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and he was looking straight at me. So I had

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a forty five on me. And then the second one

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that I noticed, not the one that was walking, but

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another one, which whether it was the same animal, I

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don't know. The legs were going in the same direction,

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but it was solid white and it was much bigger

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than the one that I had seen coming up behind me,

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and I kind of got a feeling that something wasn't right.

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And the things that I've been seeing VIC and going

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on in there and such as that I started. Instead

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of getting that good feeling, I got a little bit afraid.

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I sensed that something wasn't right, and knowing what I've

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told you so far, it give me good reason to

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be and I didn't want to end up a statistic,

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so I went ahead and left. So my feeling on

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this is VIC it demands some deeper research. I think

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it's just getting too dangerous for me. I've been at

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it for a long time, and I'm sixty four and

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I want to call it a day. I've been around

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them for a long time, and they know my smell, Vic,

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they knowed me for years. I'm out there quite frequently,

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and when I was younger, I was out there every week,

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every week, sometimes a couple of times a week, and

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so I know good and well they know my sin.

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Like I told you, I saw that that one in

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the first episode interview that I saw the mother sitting

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on a log. She had blue eyes, and she had

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pups around her. But she was fall enough away, but

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she never bothered me, Vic. She didn't even even act

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like she was going to get up. But now, all

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of a sudden, I wouldn't want to be in that

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predicament again, even as far away as I was, with

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the way these animals are acting now, Vicky, I wouldn't

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want to be there. I wouldn't want to do it again.

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I just wouldn't. Like I said, the reason I would,

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I'm doing this is to warn our young people and

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a lot of you people that are not very good researchers.

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I guess is the word are inexperienced. Be very careful,

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be very careful, because it could mean your life. I've

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got a pretty good understanding. I'm not out on the internet.

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I didn't put up a site I could have. I

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could have put photos up that you wouldn't even believe,

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but I'm not going to do it because I want

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to encourage our young people to end up living a

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very short life. Inexperience could mean your death. You're talking

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about an animal that's literally capable of ripping you men

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from limb without even breaking a sweat. And it's getting

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to the point that you know, people go out there

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for recreation and they're either being killed or they're running

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out of there for their life. And exactly as I

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have told you and Dick I liked another episode, all right,

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excuse me. Another incident that happened with my granddaughter. She

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used to go out. This was the last time she

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went out with me. We've been out walking through the

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place and had a pretty good day and nothing bothered

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us as as usual until we started coming up to

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the last hill, which an area that we nicknamed Ambush Alley.

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And the reason that we did is the road is

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so thin and the woods are so dark and black

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on each side. If they're going to get you, that's

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where I would think they would get you. And we

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started we got about oh fifty feet from entering into

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that to get to the vehicle, and we heard that

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the off was carrying on right out in front of us,

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off into the woods about twelve feet. We had to

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get past this thing VIC to get to the car.

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So I told Zoe, I said, just just be quiet,

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and I let it know that we were there. I

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simply said, look, we're just going to her car. Would

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need no harm. I just were just leaving and we went.

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And as we got beside this thing VIC, it couldn't

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have been the more ten or twelve feet to our left,

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and my granddaughter happened to she wanted to walk on

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that side. So, but if it's going to get us,

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it's going to get it. It don't matter what side

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you're standing on. But I wanted to get her out

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of there. And it just started hailing VIC and she

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started shaking like a like a a wet dog and

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an ice storm, and she I kept confident her. I said,

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so it's gonna be all right, It's not going to

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hurt you. And that was the last time she ever

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wanted to go out ask the last time I ever

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took them. The whole atmosphere of the place is changing

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for the worst. So they never went with me again.

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But I just want to constantly caution people. I said,

481
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:30,319
I've read some of the reviews over the last interview

482
00:29:31,119 --> 00:29:35,160
VIC had with me, and people have made a lot

483
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,519
of good comments and a lot of good concerns, and

484
00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:40,559
I appreciated all of them, and I actually answered some

485
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:45,480
of this. I want everybody to understand this. My motive

486
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,599
been objective for this interview is public safety, and even

487
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:58,279
to our experienced explorers on this subject, I recommend complete

488
00:29:59,559 --> 00:30:02,640
be on your those be aware of what's around you,

489
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,599
be very aware of what's around you, and don't do

490
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:10,119
anything stupid to take no chances. People, you know, they

491
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,599
put this stuff on the internet, VIC, like they're puppies

492
00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:14,839
and you can go out there. If people say they

493
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,000
find them and they raise them in this stuff that happens,

494
00:30:18,359 --> 00:30:20,880
you know what, I kind of I don't call anybody

495
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,839
a liar. I wouldn't do that, but I don't believe it.

496
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,839
And I'm going to tell you why. These are pack animals.

497
00:30:27,119 --> 00:30:30,960
They're not going to abandon their young. If one animal

498
00:30:31,119 --> 00:30:34,400
leaves them, the pack is going to take care of them.

499
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,279
And I just don't think that's the case with these animals.

500
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,200
And like I say, wolves take care of their own.

501
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,920
If you ever studied woop behavior, it's something were to

502
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,119
happen to a mother the other females. I believe, if

503
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,039
I understand this correctly, take over mothering that them pups

504
00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:55,160
because they are very wolves. They're very close knit animals,

505
00:30:55,759 --> 00:31:01,519
very close knit, and they're a family. And I'm sorry,

506
00:31:01,559 --> 00:31:04,480
I can't swallow that. I don't swallow that. And I

507
00:31:04,519 --> 00:31:06,599
think some of these things, I'd ask these people if

508
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,160
you're doing that, you might be doing it to make money,

509
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,839
but you could be putting some young person in danger

510
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,400
that believes that stuff, and they go out looking for

511
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,759
these things and they end up in an area like

512
00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:22,039
I'm describing with packs. This could be in very badly

513
00:31:22,119 --> 00:31:24,960
for somebody. This could be very and I'm telling you

514
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,279
from a professional point of view. I have been at

515
00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:30,200
there all these years. I don't understand the change. Whether

516
00:31:30,279 --> 00:31:33,039
people have been shooting at them or whether it's something

517
00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:36,200
like frequency, I don't know, because I was so shocked

518
00:31:36,759 --> 00:31:39,960
and the two years since I did that interview, they

519
00:31:40,039 --> 00:31:44,279
for about a year after that they stayed mellow. Then

520
00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:49,920
all of a sudden, this change I've seen and I

521
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:55,880
don't understand it that but I want to folks as folks,

522
00:31:56,279 --> 00:31:59,720
and I love people, and I know that's why I

523
00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:02,640
chose this channel. Vic. After I talked to you, you

524
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:08,720
were all for doing this because I chose Vic to

525
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,799
do these interviews because as I said at the ending

526
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,400
up of the last interview, he's a man as a

527
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,000
heart for the people, and I believe this is a

528
00:32:17,079 --> 00:32:20,160
smart thing to say, and I believe Vic would be

529
00:32:20,319 --> 00:32:22,480
the channel to say it on. It's not because I'm

530
00:32:22,519 --> 00:32:26,920
trying to get him reviews or anything. It's because this

531
00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:29,960
is the truth and the man has a good heart,

532
00:32:30,839 --> 00:32:33,839
and I talked to him about this before I said it.

533
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,880
I'm not running anybody's site down or anything like that,

534
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,640
but I think a lot of it is Creek prepostors.

535
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,559
I heard somebody say before, I don't believe this stuff

536
00:32:43,559 --> 00:32:45,640
that they're even putting out there, and you could be

537
00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:49,799
endangering young people. Young you know, young men take days

538
00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:52,400
and I was a young man at one time. We

539
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,759
all work, and this is something you don't want to

540
00:32:54,759 --> 00:32:58,480
take a day on because you may not live. These

541
00:32:58,519 --> 00:33:03,920
animals are not friendly normally, even like they were with me.

542
00:33:04,119 --> 00:33:06,319
I did not approach them. I did not do that.

543
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,319
I stayed away from them I took pictures from the distance.

544
00:33:09,599 --> 00:33:12,000
I never bothered them. I've been run out of their

545
00:33:12,039 --> 00:33:17,079
areas during either they had young or breeding or they

546
00:33:17,079 --> 00:33:19,400
were hunting, whatever the reason was, and they did they

547
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:25,640
broke off the chase. But now something's happening, and this

548
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,240
has flipped me around because I was so concerned and

549
00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:33,880
so distraught over how in the world that these animals

550
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,599
before could be so dull, was so nice. I mean,

551
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,240
for what they are, they were not bothering anybody. They

552
00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:43,119
stayed in the mind of their own business. And then

553
00:33:43,119 --> 00:33:46,599
all of a sudden everything flips over and this is

554
00:33:46,759 --> 00:33:49,039
you know, I never got the questions answered on the

555
00:33:49,079 --> 00:33:52,599
first round. It's my curiosity why they were like that.

556
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,160
But now I've got a whole hupan questions now is

557
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,000
why did they turn? That's the whole thing that's just

558
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,599
really I don't understand. I mean, I can't even begin

559
00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:04,799
other than saying this, people have been shooting at them.

560
00:34:04,839 --> 00:34:09,400
Something's turning these animals against people. And normally animals are

561
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:14,679
not after you unless they're hungry or they feel threatened,

562
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,760
and wolves, when they feel threatened, they could be pretty mean.

563
00:34:19,559 --> 00:34:22,000
And I'll give you an example. My daughter just got

564
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,360
a husky today. This morning. We picked her up. She's

565
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,320
been abused and we're very kind to animals. We took

566
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,440
her in and she bit me on the hand. She

567
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,239
didn't break the skin, but I got too close to

568
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,880
her food and I was warned about this, but she

569
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,920
didn't bite me. She likes me well. She didn't break

570
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,000
the skin, but she got her point. And these dogs

571
00:34:43,039 --> 00:34:48,679
are part of wolf. She's a Siberian husky and these

572
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:53,280
dog men have a full nature of a wolf. And

573
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,119
they've not been around people. They don't, they don't. They

574
00:34:56,119 --> 00:34:59,199
don't make good pets. Anybody wants to try that one,

575
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,800
you better think of in These animals are not good paths,

576
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:09,559
and so vic I think it is so important that

577
00:35:09,679 --> 00:35:15,159
this message gets out over the internet to young researchers

578
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,760
and people that like to go in the woods exploring.

579
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:24,000
I would recommend not to do it in areas at

580
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,800
all like this. I highly recommend if you've got any

581
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:34,280
feeling at all, follow your instincts. That's what I do,

582
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,559
and my instincts told me the day they circled me

583
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,400
get out, and I listened to them. I'm here today

584
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,079
to tell about it, and I have two photographs from

585
00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:48,760
those animals surrounding me and Vic. They could have killed me,

586
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,480
but I think the only thing that saved me is

587
00:35:51,519 --> 00:35:54,559
that they've known me, they know my sin. But I

588
00:35:54,599 --> 00:35:57,960
was getting the strong feeling that the friendship is ending,

589
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,280
and I don't like I said, I don't know why.

590
00:36:02,199 --> 00:36:06,639
I've never had any issues like this before, but finding

591
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,760
this gear. This man shot his way out of there,

592
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,400
shooting a twelve gay shotgun out the door of your

593
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,320
tent in the middle of the night, because you're not.

594
00:36:18,599 --> 00:36:20,440
Nobody's gonna be out there shooting during the day, because

595
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,599
the rangers to be on him. This was done at night.

596
00:36:23,639 --> 00:36:27,239
That man was out there at night camping out, and

597
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,880
something so horrible happened that he either got killed fighting

598
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,280
his way out or he never came back for his

599
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,519
gear and something terrified him so bad. And all these

600
00:36:36,559 --> 00:36:39,119
things that I'm pointing to you, a shirt that shredded,

601
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,400
women running out with their underwear on, terrified, and the

602
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,519
water bottles scattered for thirty feet thirty yards, whatever it was,

603
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,880
and my granddaughter and I coming out of there with

604
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,880
hearing this thing howling right beside his ten or twelve

605
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,159
feet from us. These are definite warning signs. I believe

606
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:05,440
that changing. They're changing for the worst. And Vic, I

607
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,920
don't know. I don't. You may have something you want

608
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,719
to add here. After talking to the rangers and seemed

609
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,159
how how stern they were about this and wanting to

610
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,519
know everything that's going on. But here's the thing. They

611
00:37:20,559 --> 00:37:25,000
already knew. They already knew about a lot of this stuff.

612
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,960
And if anybody's ended up that, of course they know

613
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:33,280
about it. And I had brought something up years ago

614
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,760
about Bigfoot being out there. If they played it off

615
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,599
and they asked if I had pictures and stuff like that,

616
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,719
of course I'm not going to tell him that because

617
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:48,039
they'd comfiscated them. So listen to everybody out there. Listen, listen,

618
00:37:48,039 --> 00:37:52,039
Please listen to me. Dog If you're researching Bigfoot, dog

619
00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:55,920
Man is out there too, and in this area, they

620
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,960
are there together. And a lot of times people say

621
00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:02,719
Bigfoot saved them from dog Man. I wouldn't count on it.

622
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,599
I wouldn't count on it in this area. I just

623
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,199
I wouldn't try it or any area like it. This.

624
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,440
I believe this should be left to the professionals. If

625
00:38:12,519 --> 00:38:17,880
even then, I believe that they should use extreme caution

626
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,119
and concern before going out in areas like this, don't

627
00:38:22,159 --> 00:38:27,360
go go go with some heavy duty protection. Listen to

628
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,519
your instincts, but this is definitely not for the young

629
00:38:30,559 --> 00:38:34,840
and inexperienced. This is definitely not I plead with them,

630
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,480
please don't do it. These animals will not spare your life.

631
00:38:39,159 --> 00:38:43,079
They won't do it. They're wild and they mean business,

632
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,719
and they're territorial and for whatever reason, if there's another

633
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,119
pact moved in on our territory which caused them to

634
00:38:49,159 --> 00:38:52,440
be like this against humans. Like I said, Vic, there

635
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:57,639
has been a very people have stopped going out there,

636
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,760
which is so unusual, thirty years going out there, and

637
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,960
I've never seen this before, and I think people are

638
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,960
getting bad feelings or have they seen things. I've seen

639
00:39:08,159 --> 00:39:10,639
a baby bigfoot run on old fords, come out into

640
00:39:10,679 --> 00:39:13,679
the path that was that nothing on fords for about

641
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,199
ten feet and run right back in the woods. And

642
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,400
I wasn't attacked. This was early on when things for friendly.

643
00:39:20,119 --> 00:39:23,000
But now something like that could cost you your life.

644
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,320
Like I said, I'm party Indian and I listened to

645
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:33,159
my instincts. I'm a kind man. I believe in respecting nature,

646
00:39:33,639 --> 00:39:36,880
and I believe nature is telling you a story, and

647
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,800
if you listen to it, you learn something. Be very

648
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:46,639
aware of your surroundings. You know. People say that, well,

649
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,239
you know when the birds stop, Yeah, that's probably when

650
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,719
you're about to get it. But when I've been out there,

651
00:39:52,159 --> 00:39:55,079
the birds didn't stop. During the times that they recircling me,

652
00:39:55,159 --> 00:39:58,679
I still heard birds. So I wouldn't bank on that

653
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,960
if I were you. Listen to your instincts that the

654
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,119
Good Lord gave everyone, Listen to them because they will

655
00:40:06,119 --> 00:40:10,800
save your life. An animal trust in those, and we're

656
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,719
nothing but a very intelligent animals. And I think we

657
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,280
need to do the same. I think we need to

658
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,239
follow the example out there. Listen to your instincts and

659
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:23,039
don't walk over the top of them. I don't, I

660
00:40:23,079 --> 00:40:25,960
don't ever do that. If I told in the first episode,

661
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,800
I told y'all, Vick, I've got out of my truck

662
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,840
and start to go in and I get bad. Something

663
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,400
tell you I can't run go back to my truck.

664
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,679
But strangely enough, I knew something was wrong, but I

665
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,480
didn't feel the urge to leave. But I could tell

666
00:40:39,519 --> 00:40:44,920
by the woods that the woods was telling me a story.

667
00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:49,159
There was the absence of people and the grown up

668
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,880
grass where people usually keep the trample down was gone.

669
00:40:53,199 --> 00:40:56,840
The grass had grown up. And I don't run into

670
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:05,519
hardly nobody anymore out there. I just I don't want

671
00:41:05,519 --> 00:41:09,840
to say that I know everything that's going on, but

672
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,199
I do use extreme caution. Now. It's shocking to me.

673
00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:18,159
Like I said, they didn't try to kill me. Obviously,

674
00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:20,440
they tried to hurt these people, but they didn't try

675
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,119
to hurt me. And I think that's only because I've

676
00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:27,800
respected it. I respect nature, and nature has respected me back.

677
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,199
But because of the stupid stuff that other people do,

678
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,639
which could be the cause of shooting them or shooting

679
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,079
at them, is going to cause innocent people that are

680
00:41:38,119 --> 00:41:40,440
out there, maybe take a walk that don't know the area,

681
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,360
go out there with children, could cause a bloody disaster

682
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,960
to innocent people that have done nothing wrong. And that's

683
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,159
my point in this interview is to caution people. The

684
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,559
stuff now needs to be left to the professionals and

685
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,719
these internet channels. I couldn't believe what I was seeing.

686
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,719
I couldn't believe that the stuff that they put on

687
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:05,079
there for money you can get somebody killed. And I

688
00:42:05,079 --> 00:42:07,639
would like to say a friendly thing to these people,

689
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:12,519
if I might please think about if you're not telling

690
00:42:12,559 --> 00:42:15,440
the truth, think about the young people that go in

691
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,360
the woods. Look at these young couple that come tearing

692
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,119
out of there, and I think that that would be

693
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,760
something that would cause people to what if it was

694
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,639
your son or daughter? You know, if we think like

695
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,480
that and have a love for one another and a

696
00:42:31,519 --> 00:42:36,119
deep concern about others, because you may not ever know

697
00:42:36,599 --> 00:42:40,000
till the day of judgment what you caused, and you

698
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:42,880
may not know that because of your website that somebody

699
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,199
got hurt or killed. You know, these are not these

700
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,920
These are animals that I feel vic should be taken

701
00:42:49,039 --> 00:42:55,039
very seriously, very seriously. And again, your platform is the

702
00:42:55,039 --> 00:42:58,079
one that I believe is the one to use because

703
00:42:58,119 --> 00:43:01,880
of your concerned for people. And I think that we've

704
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,159
spoke about this. I'm not running anybody's website down. I

705
00:43:05,159 --> 00:43:08,000
wouldn't do that. But some of the stuff that I've

706
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,840
seen out there is just pure nonsense and it's dangerous.

707
00:43:11,159 --> 00:43:16,079
It's very dangerous to inexperience researchers. Please people, if you

708
00:43:16,159 --> 00:43:18,679
listen to this, listen to If you want to go

709
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,280
in the woods, that's up to you, that's fine, but

710
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,960
listen to your instincts. If you get the slightest equaling

711
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:27,920
something is wrong, go back to your vehicle, go back,

712
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,760
don't even go, don't even try it. Good Lord's got

713
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,360
a way to warn you. And as animals trust their instincts.

714
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,559
They don't have a brain like we do. They're not

715
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,639
smart as we are, but they trust their instincts and

716
00:43:40,639 --> 00:43:43,119
that's what keeps them alive. And I do believe Vic

717
00:43:43,199 --> 00:43:46,320
that's what we should do, is trust our instincts in

718
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,719
these situations. Don't listen to what other people tell you.

719
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,239
That make this thing look like it's a puppy in

720
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,280
the park. It's not. And it's Bigfoot's even changing. I've

721
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,199
noticed things about him. But being this is a dog

722
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:03,599
man interview, I'll keep it with that. But I'm very,

723
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,639
very worried, and I've cut down my visits out there

724
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,679
a lot. I don't go like I did because when

725
00:44:10,679 --> 00:44:13,840
I get out of my vehicle, I feel uneasy, especially

726
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,239
after they surrounded me and I got pictures of it,

727
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:22,119
and I just I don't recommend people because there's a

728
00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:26,119
reason why, whether it's people shot at them or whatever,

729
00:44:26,199 --> 00:44:29,639
the reason is that they're that these general, these animals

730
00:44:29,679 --> 00:44:34,719
were gentle. Something has turned them against people, against man,

731
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,800
and now we've become a threat all of a sudden,

732
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,360
when that never was the case out here never. So

733
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,679
whatever people are doing, I would recommend they stop it.

734
00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:50,239
If you're out there hunting dog man and you've got

735
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,039
an ekland to shoot them, that suicide. You're not going

736
00:44:54,039 --> 00:44:56,079
to drag a body in alive. You're just not going

737
00:44:56,159 --> 00:45:00,519
to do it. And no doubt, people with families and

738
00:45:00,599 --> 00:45:03,719
children don't do that to your wife and kids. Don't

739
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,760
even take the chance. I know a lot of kids

740
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,039
that have been orphaned and kids that have grown up

741
00:45:10,039 --> 00:45:14,039
without dads. It's not nice, it's not fair to the kid.

742
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,639
And I think as adults, it's time to take this

743
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,679
subject more serious. I think it's time that the warning

744
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,519
bells are wrong. That this is not a walk in

745
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:28,639
the park or going to pet Mark to pet the puppies.

746
00:45:29,039 --> 00:45:31,960
This is not what this is. Something's happening to these

747
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:37,119
animals to turn general animals to vicious killers in just

748
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:44,000
two years. Vic Something is going on, and I would

749
00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:47,320
like to hear people's comments on this, what others think

750
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,800
about this, even researchers, if they've been in similar situations.

751
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,280
I talk about more serious researchers, people that take the

752
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,599
serious and know what they're doing. I would love to

753
00:45:58,159 --> 00:46:03,239
read comments on that, because we owe it to our

754
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:08,880
fellow man to say things like this warned them because

755
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,079
I got kids, and last thing I would want Vickers

756
00:46:12,119 --> 00:46:14,199
to see one of them ripped apart by something like this.

757
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,719
You know, there wouldn't be enough to put back in

758
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,800
a casket. I mean, this is the reality of it, folks.

759
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,440
This is not I'm a Christian man and I wouldn't lie.

760
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,000
And even with the way I am and with animals

761
00:46:29,039 --> 00:46:32,360
and things, even being part Indian helps me, I'm sure.

762
00:46:33,039 --> 00:46:36,960
And I've never had problems with wild animals before, but

763
00:46:37,079 --> 00:46:40,760
now I am. You know an animal that in an

764
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,079
area I've gone into. I told you I thought I

765
00:46:43,119 --> 00:46:46,039
was going to get my neck broke. I didn't go

766
00:46:46,119 --> 00:46:48,760
to that area a lot, but this area I have

767
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,280
visited weekly for almost thirty years, and I know it.

768
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:59,480
I know every inch of it. But I'm very Here's

769
00:46:59,519 --> 00:47:02,480
another thing, think Vic. The paths that people used to

770
00:47:02,559 --> 00:47:07,320
take hiking have growed over and game trails have grown over,

771
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,159
and this is the stuff that I've never seen in

772
00:47:11,199 --> 00:47:16,599
thirty years of going out there and I'm just I'm

773
00:47:16,679 --> 00:47:24,360
just overtaken by the change so quickly from from good

774
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:32,159
to bad, from from this type of protection or being

775
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,599
vicious like they are, and this amount of time, something

776
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,880
has turned them. And you know, people go out there

777
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:46,559
and mess around and do things in their territory, and

778
00:47:46,639 --> 00:47:49,840
I think it's I think that's why the rangers, I believe,

779
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,119
should put up signs that these you know, there are

780
00:47:54,199 --> 00:47:57,960
animals out here that are vicious, be cautious. They're not

781
00:47:58,039 --> 00:48:01,880
doing it. And if you get killed or nobody gonna

782
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,239
know about it, you just disappeared. And I know that

783
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:10,639
happens for a fact. Best friends that were comps, I know.

784
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,079
And it's even been on the internet where people that

785
00:48:13,159 --> 00:48:16,400
new police officers after facts that somebody killed by these things,

786
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,880
and they tell their friend, their friend puts it on

787
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,679
the internet. This is stuff they're not allowed to talk about.

788
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,840
That's all over. You could find out just about every

789
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,800
case where it's involved rangers or the law enforcement, they're

790
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,760
not allowed to talk. And I found out that's the

791
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:37,000
case here. I don't care whether they like this or not.

792
00:48:37,079 --> 00:48:39,559
I've got a love for people, and I love children,

793
00:48:40,199 --> 00:48:44,199
and I don't want to be responsible after knowing this,

794
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,960
and some father go out there, maybe just to walk

795
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,480
around without warning them first, you know, don't go unarmed.

796
00:48:53,639 --> 00:48:57,519
And in this state you can carry without a permit.

797
00:48:58,559 --> 00:49:02,000
I highly recommend you carry something of a high caliber.

798
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,199
And if you're in danger, shoot him in the head,

799
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,920
get aheadshot don't shoot him in the chest because they

800
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:11,880
ain't can do you any good. And didn't run because

801
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:17,239
I don't know, Vic, I don't hear people telling people this.

802
00:49:18,159 --> 00:49:21,679
They're not People are not being honest. As a matter

803
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,159
of fact. It's all about money and popularity, and it's

804
00:49:25,159 --> 00:49:29,800
about subscriptions. It's about being on the internet and being heard.

805
00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:33,920
But man, we got to worry about what human beings here.

806
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,280
These are wild animals and the way this inner net

807
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,159
thing is moving, Vic, I'm not killing anybody. I'm not

808
00:49:43,159 --> 00:49:47,079
talking about anybody particular website. I wouldn't do that, That's

809
00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:50,480
not right. But I have seen things that can cause

810
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,639
people to get killed. And I sit and go through

811
00:49:53,679 --> 00:49:56,840
these things all night long. I've said, all night long, Vic,

812
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,920
going from one state one to another, to another to another,

813
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,639
and I've got a very good view and understanding of

814
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,760
what people are doing. Money is not above human life.

815
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:12,800
It's not. And anybody that thinks like that, you don't care.

816
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,159
They not think you need to get off the internet.

817
00:50:16,119 --> 00:50:21,159
You're going to get somebody killed. I think these animals

818
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,320
deserve respect and a lot of it, and give them

819
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,880
a lot of room. Give them a lot of room.

820
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,119
I mean me going into that area, I admitted I

821
00:50:32,159 --> 00:50:35,000
wanted to see after seeing all this, I wanted to

822
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,440
see their behavior. And I found out they didn't kill me.

823
00:50:38,039 --> 00:50:40,480
But I had a good hard feeling in my heart

824
00:50:40,599 --> 00:50:44,679
not to come back and do this. They let me go, Vic,

825
00:50:45,559 --> 00:50:49,000
They let me go, but that other fellow they didn't.

826
00:50:50,199 --> 00:50:53,000
And I was right there within rocks distance from where

827
00:50:53,039 --> 00:50:57,719
that tent was, sitting on a log, and it was

828
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,920
in the evening. They knew I was there, Vic, their

829
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:07,400
nose don't lie. They knew I was there. And why

830
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,639
didn't they kill my granddaughter and me when we left.

831
00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:14,119
I think it's because I have been respectful and because

832
00:51:14,119 --> 00:51:16,840
I've been there so long. I believe they let us go.

833
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,199
They let us go. Vic. There's no other way to

834
00:51:20,199 --> 00:51:23,559
look at it, Buddy, they just let us go ten

835
00:51:23,599 --> 00:51:25,519
feet away. It's not they're gonna get you. They're gonna

836
00:51:25,519 --> 00:51:29,960
get you. Buddy, they're gonna get you. I've always had

837
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,719
respect for wildlife, but I just plead with people listen

838
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,280
to me. I've been doing this for a long time

839
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,199
and something's turning these animals vicious, and I don't want

840
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:46,199
children killed, somebody's wife or son or husband. We got

841
00:51:46,199 --> 00:51:49,800
to think. I think this subject should be left to

842
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:54,920
the professionals VIC and people that are putting out this creepypasta.

843
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,599
I think you ought to think twice about putting lies

844
00:51:59,639 --> 00:52:02,960
on the air to make people think that these animals

845
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,000
are friendly. That's a lie, the or not.

846
00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 1: You know.

847
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 2: I don't doubt a lot of your experiences. I won't

848
00:52:10,039 --> 00:52:12,960
call you nobody a liar, but I'm telling you from

849
00:52:13,039 --> 00:52:15,920
hard research and my experiences. I can't speak of what

850
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,920
the other fellow is. I can go by what you're

851
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,039
right and what you put out that tells what's in you.

852
00:52:21,199 --> 00:52:25,159
I'm a very good I was born with a gift

853
00:52:25,199 --> 00:52:27,440
they called a gift to discernment. I can tell somebody's

854
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,000
spirit when I'm around them. I guess I got it

855
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:33,519
from the Indian side. And this stuff gives me the creeps. Fick.

856
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:39,599
It's cold hearted and it's wrong. It's wrong I know

857
00:52:39,679 --> 00:52:41,880
a lot of people wouldn't say what I'm saying right now,

858
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,400
but I think it's simple. I think people ought to

859
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,199
get a lot more feeling for other people, a lot

860
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,400
more care and concern. You know, it may not be

861
00:52:50,519 --> 00:52:53,320
your family, but what if you've called somebody else's family

862
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,760
to be broken up? Something You wouldn't want to go

863
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,559
look at your little kid and put that on there

864
00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:01,039
and keep putting it on here, thinking well, your little

865
00:53:01,039 --> 00:53:03,400
boy in the hands of one of those things. This

866
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,039
is not a joke, and this is not something you know.

867
00:53:06,159 --> 00:53:09,000
These these experiences I told you were real. I'm not

868
00:53:09,079 --> 00:53:14,360
a liar. I wouldn't do such a thing, but I've

869
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,199
got a heart like VIC. I got a heart for

870
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,400
the people. Man, you got to care about your neighbor.

871
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,639
You can't let somebody walk blindly into something like this suicide.

872
00:53:23,639 --> 00:53:28,840
You get them killed. I think that I think that

873
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,400
this subject needs to turn on the internet.

874
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:31,679
Speaker 1: VIC.

875
00:53:32,519 --> 00:53:36,559
Speaker 2: I believe that researchers need to put up more caution

876
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,719
when they put these things out, with a warning to

877
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:49,039
inexperienced people that you shouldn't do this, and it's dangerous.

878
00:53:49,559 --> 00:53:54,960
It's getting very dangerous. VIC. And I'm sorry. I don't

879
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,599
mean to get worked up or sound like a sissy.

880
00:53:57,639 --> 00:54:02,400
But I love people. I do. I deal with people

881
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,599
every day and I've counseled people people because of me,

882
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:10,000
for counseling people that have been through a lot, but

883
00:54:10,119 --> 00:54:12,760
this subject, I think a lot of people need counseling, VIC,

884
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,719
And that's what that brings me back to you. You

885
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:19,360
have done exactly that. When I hear you your compassion

886
00:54:19,519 --> 00:54:24,159
to people that have seen this, you know it's it's

887
00:54:24,199 --> 00:54:27,400
your worst nightmare unfolding. Now I've been around him, it

888
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,719
doesn't bother me to see them. I haven't stood, you know,

889
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,679
right in front of them. You know, I've seen one

890
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,880
didn't feed away and it ran, thank god. But that

891
00:54:36,039 --> 00:54:38,679
was stupid thing to do on my part, and I

892
00:54:38,679 --> 00:54:42,679
wouldn't do it again, but I learned. But I wouldn't

893
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:47,119
want to stand in the distance that that one ran

894
00:54:47,159 --> 00:54:48,679
that time that are retaording me. I wouldn't want to

895
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,000
stand in front of one and turned around facing me

896
00:54:51,039 --> 00:54:53,760
at ten feet. I would know that I'm going to

897
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,480
get in trouble. I mean trouble, I mean big troubles.

898
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:01,840
And I was fortunate that it ran, and that's the truth.

899
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:06,320
It did. But things. I wouldn't go back out to

900
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,400
that area out east anymore. I wouldn't do it in

901
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,719
this area where they were behaving. They're not behaving anymore. Vic.

902
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,880
I think those days are over. I think it is

903
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,840
frequencies to some point. I think it's a combination of

904
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:25,679
all the things that's been made mentioned here. Frequencies people

905
00:55:26,079 --> 00:55:31,320
shooting them and somebody would have warned him about camping

906
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:37,239
in areas where dog Man is living, especially when they

907
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:43,239
got pups or they're honey. It's suicide, Vic, It's just

908
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:49,079
plain suicide or murder. If they're putting this stuff out,

909
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:49,639
you know.

910
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 1: You were.

911
00:55:53,039 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 2: And I'm going to make something clearer. I'm not here

912
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,599
to make Vic money. I'm here because Vic has a

913
00:55:58,639 --> 00:56:01,239
heart for the people. That's why I chose this channel.

914
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,079
And I recommend it to anybody that likes to hear

915
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,960
somebody that's got a heart for the people instead of

916
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,199
out making money. This is not what this is about.

917
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:15,000
And we talked before this episode and Vic. I told

918
00:56:15,159 --> 00:56:16,800
Vic the same thing I told him then I told

919
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,760
him after that episode he's got a heart for the people.

920
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,599
And I can't you couldn't say this on just anybody's

921
00:56:22,599 --> 00:56:25,079
side because they might think it's going to hurt their

922
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:30,800
their popularity, or their their subscriptions or whatever it is,

923
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,280
or ring the bell and say, you go out there

924
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,440
like this, you're going to get your bell rung. This

925
00:56:36,519 --> 00:56:41,480
is some serious, serious stuff, folks. It's we are not

926
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,440
I do not believe vic that we are prepared. I

927
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,880
know the government has taken these things and weaponized them.

928
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:51,480
I've known that for years. And I and those you

929
00:56:51,519 --> 00:56:54,360
don't want to meet, But these are not that kind.

930
00:56:54,519 --> 00:56:58,440
These are the kind that I think are natural, natural

931
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,519
animals that are like I said, they're not hybrids. If

932
00:57:01,519 --> 00:57:04,719
they're able to reproduce, they're not a hybrid. And they

933
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:11,159
are having pups and they are they are growing in

934
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:15,679
numbers at a rate that is phenomenal, and it makes

935
00:57:15,679 --> 00:57:18,400
me think that they're spreading out into other areas where

936
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:23,280
they weren't before or weren't too many, and they're reproducing

937
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:28,000
so fast. Vicked. They've got to have territory, and I know,

938
00:57:28,159 --> 00:57:31,360
I know here it's not wise to be out there

939
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,800
at night or by yourself during the day. Anybody that

940
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,719
might happen to know the area in which I speak,

941
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,760
that live in this area, that know by the signs

942
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,559
that I've said. I'm not going to tell people where

943
00:57:43,599 --> 00:57:46,199
it's at. I'm not going to do that. But if

944
00:57:46,199 --> 00:57:49,760
anybody recognizes the things that I've said, do not go

945
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,119
out there alone. Go out there in three or four

946
00:57:53,199 --> 00:57:56,679
or five people. Go to group. Go to group. If

947
00:57:56,719 --> 00:57:58,159
you want to go out their sight seeing, go out

948
00:57:58,159 --> 00:58:01,440
there in a group, but they'll go along. Do not

949
00:58:01,559 --> 00:58:04,599
go alone, because nobody's going to know what happened. You

950
00:58:04,719 --> 00:58:09,280
just took off and left your family or vanished. They're

951
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,320
not going to bring your remains back if there is

952
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,519
any and frankly, I don't think anybody would want to

953
00:58:14,519 --> 00:58:19,400
see it. So this is the last interview I'm going

954
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,960
to do, and I told vict this, I'm not doing

955
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:28,159
any more interviews, but I would like to solemnly exhort

956
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:32,760
you people. Please, if you're going to do this extreme cautume,

957
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:37,119
but I'd rather you didn't. In any areas where you

958
00:58:37,199 --> 00:58:40,199
do not feel right, stay out of them. It could

959
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:44,960
mean your life. I don't know what's causing these animals

960
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,599
to turn vicious, which goes along with other areas where

961
00:58:48,639 --> 00:58:51,719
people have been honest and put out that they have

962
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:56,400
been getting more vicious, and now it's happening here. And

963
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,000
I would just like to encourage everyone. If you got chilled,

964
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:04,239
stay out of these areas. Please stay out of them.

965
00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:07,360
Stay in areas where they got swing sets and where

966
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,480
people got barbecue grills, stay in those areas. But don't

967
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:14,400
get out here in these wildlife areas where it's very

968
00:59:14,559 --> 00:59:20,400
very the woods are deep, and you go and get

969
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,280
out of your car and a bad feeling strikes you,

970
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,320
get back in your car. Get back in your car.

971
00:59:25,679 --> 00:59:28,639
That's the best advice I could give you. But please

972
00:59:28,679 --> 00:59:32,159
don't get yourself killed. There's no heroes here. This is

973
00:59:32,199 --> 00:59:35,679
not about being a hero. This is certainly not about money.

974
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,599
It's not about making views. VIC is not doing this

975
00:59:39,719 --> 00:59:42,639
for the views we already talked. He's doing this allowing

976
00:59:42,679 --> 00:59:48,840
me to do this for the people. Please. I won't

977
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,599
I won't be on any more channels, and I won't

978
00:59:51,639 --> 00:59:54,840
make any more interviews with Vic. But I would like

979
00:59:54,880 --> 01:00:01,360
to encourage everyone to please use extreme caution, dream cautions.

980
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,119
And we don't know how these I don't know how

981
01:00:04,159 --> 01:00:06,360
these animals are going to act five years from now,

982
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,760
wheating people are stilling, I don't know. And if the

983
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,199
king's growing at the rate that it is nobody's gonna

984
01:00:13,199 --> 01:00:15,000
be able to go in the woods. Too many people

985
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:19,119
are coming up, missus. Sooner or later, this is going

986
01:00:19,199 --> 01:00:22,280
to hit the books and they're going to have to

987
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,800
put it out. And if they keep growing at the

988
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,480
rate that they are, and deaths keep coming like what

989
01:00:28,519 --> 01:00:32,000
I've seen out here, if that stuff like this keeps happening,

990
01:00:32,039 --> 01:00:37,000
and I was extremely, very seriously warned and told to

991
01:00:37,079 --> 01:00:40,000
tell them about what was going on, if I see

992
01:00:40,079 --> 01:00:43,800
any more of this, they're obviously have been aware of it,

993
01:00:44,519 --> 01:00:47,239
and I'll say it. I don't care. They got my name.

994
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:51,320
I don't care. I care more for people, not money,

995
01:00:52,159 --> 01:00:55,400
not how much revenue I could make by having people

996
01:00:55,440 --> 01:01:00,039
come out there and fish all night and turn up missus. No,

997
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:05,519
that's not loving your neighbor. That's called getting people killed

998
01:01:05,519 --> 01:01:09,039
for money. And I don't care. I think the system

999
01:01:09,119 --> 01:01:13,519
needs a tune up. It's exactly how I feel. I

1000
01:01:13,559 --> 01:01:15,199
think they need a tune up. And I think they

1001
01:01:15,239 --> 01:01:17,760
need to put up warning signs in areas where people

1002
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,760
have been killed or hurt, or where they even feel

1003
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,800
like I gave these reports where they should put up

1004
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:28,400
warning signs, at least warn people who let somebody they

1005
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:32,320
wouldn't let their kids out there by theirself. And I'm

1006
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:37,880
very serious about this. Folks, Please let me I beg you.

1007
01:01:38,079 --> 01:01:41,920
I'm exhorting you. Please take a large group if you

1008
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:43,719
decide to go in the woods, and if you get

1009
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:47,320
any sense you start hearing sticks breaking around you, get out.

1010
01:01:47,679 --> 01:01:50,880
Just get out. Don't wait for something to go down.

1011
01:01:51,159 --> 01:01:56,039
Get out. I'm not going back again by myself. I'm

1012
01:01:56,039 --> 01:02:01,719
going back one more time and I'm not going back there.

1013
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,239
But I believe that this should be left to the professionals.

1014
01:02:06,239 --> 01:02:10,159
Now I'm not a professional. I'm only a woodsman. I've

1015
01:02:10,199 --> 01:02:14,320
studied them. I'm glad to turn my research research over

1016
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,960
and I would if I ever find somebody that I

1017
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,440
think is worthy of it, that's got a heart for people.

1018
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:27,280
And Vic, you've been You've been a wonderful host. I've

1019
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,360
got to I've got to credit you that I don't

1020
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,960
I'm doing all the talking. I'm sorry, I get carried away.

1021
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: No, don't apologize. I think it's just admirable that you're

1022
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,360
so passionate about trying to warn people, trying to keep

1023
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,079
them safe. So I'm impressed, I really am.

1024
01:02:44,239 --> 01:02:46,679
Speaker 2: It's got to be this way, Vic, People's got so

1025
01:02:46,719 --> 01:02:50,800
many sights. You need to warn people, not encouraging to

1026
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:54,440
go out there and raise their curiosity. You know this

1027
01:02:54,519 --> 01:02:57,559
is danous or hey, a couple of young guys get together.

1028
01:02:57,599 --> 01:03:00,119
I was young, take the day. Or man, you know,

1029
01:03:00,199 --> 01:03:02,079
jump off the bridge that's got water under there, not

1030
01:03:02,119 --> 01:03:04,320
even knowing how deep it is. That's about what this is.

1031
01:03:04,519 --> 01:03:07,760
You don't know if you're coming back, and I would,

1032
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,679
I would really really hope that what I've said here today.

1033
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,400
I don't know how much time we have left, but

1034
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:19,599
please listen to what's being said on this site. If

1035
01:03:19,679 --> 01:03:23,159
that's not doing this, I assure you for money, he's

1036
01:03:23,199 --> 01:03:28,760
not doing it for for uh subscriptions. I told him

1037
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,239
why I was doing it, and he told me that

1038
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:36,639
I could. And I just pray that nobody else gets

1039
01:03:36,679 --> 01:03:42,000
killed by these things. I know they are. That's the

1040
01:03:42,079 --> 01:03:44,159
sad part. Think. I know people are not going to

1041
01:03:44,159 --> 01:03:45,639
some people are not going to listen or they won't

1042
01:03:45,719 --> 01:03:49,559
hear this, but I just pray they do. And women

1043
01:03:49,719 --> 01:03:52,599
that like to walk their dogs take a man with you.

1044
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,840
If you're a single woman, don't do it. Your dog

1045
01:03:57,119 --> 01:03:59,679
is going to die very quickly if it decides to attack.

1046
01:04:00,519 --> 01:04:04,000
And they're packs. They're going to get you too. Don't

1047
01:04:04,039 --> 01:04:09,679
trust that that's not enough protection. Go in groups. I

1048
01:04:09,719 --> 01:04:14,039
would recommend the less than five. There's a good chance

1049
01:04:14,119 --> 01:04:16,280
that they're not going to attack in that many people.

1050
01:04:17,519 --> 01:04:21,400
And if you are, if you are confronted, do not

1051
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:26,960
be threatening at all, like back up slowly, don't turn

1052
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:31,199
your back to it, just slowly, be very sweet and

1053
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,920
move backwards with a very sweet tone of voice. I'm sorry,

1054
01:04:35,159 --> 01:04:38,800
I come in your territory. I'm leaving you, and pray

1055
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:42,000
to God that that thing don't decide that it's hungry.

1056
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:48,559
And please, I don't have to do this. I don't

1057
01:04:48,599 --> 01:04:52,119
have to do this, and a lot of people wouldn't

1058
01:04:52,159 --> 01:04:54,119
let me do it because it's going to mean. They

1059
01:04:54,159 --> 01:04:58,639
might think it means. If anything, vic I think the

1060
01:04:58,679 --> 01:05:01,519
people that have a good underst I'm going to ask

1061
01:05:01,559 --> 01:05:04,880
the people to spread the word to people that you know,

1062
01:05:05,159 --> 01:05:08,920
If you know anybody that's doing this stuff, that's researching,

1063
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:13,400
please warn them to take extra protection. Go in large

1064
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:18,559
groups and don't provoke them. Please. They're getting worse, they're

1065
01:05:18,599 --> 01:05:24,199
getting more agitated. And I wouldn't lie for nothing, but

1066
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,000
I've got to sleep at night, and I've known this

1067
01:05:27,199 --> 01:05:31,480
these episodes that I just told you, and I've got

1068
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,559
to sleep at night and knowing that I didn't put

1069
01:05:34,599 --> 01:05:37,960
this out. It's not for money. You got made that clear.

1070
01:05:38,519 --> 01:05:41,480
I'm doing this for the care and love for people. Look,

1071
01:05:41,559 --> 01:05:44,960
I got family. How would I feel my wife? My

1072
01:05:45,039 --> 01:05:47,000
wife died here on my kitchen floor and I got

1073
01:05:47,039 --> 01:05:50,440
her back. She died from stress and I got her back.

1074
01:05:51,159 --> 01:05:53,519
And I know what that would feel like to lose

1075
01:05:53,559 --> 01:05:59,760
somebody you love. And the main thing is, folks, don't panic.

1076
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:06,360
If you do, you're in trouble. They feed off of fear.

1077
01:06:07,079 --> 01:06:10,840
Stay straight, stay strong, don't be threatening, don't look them

1078
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:16,840
in the eyes, but do not be afraid. Just simply leave.

1079
01:06:19,159 --> 01:06:22,280
Don't show any sign of fear because they're not going

1080
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,880
to let you go. Now, that's why, maybe why they

1081
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:27,880
don't bother me, Smike Belus, I'm not afraid of them.

1082
01:06:28,679 --> 01:06:30,599
I'm just not. I guess I'm stupid, but I'm not.

1083
01:06:32,079 --> 01:06:35,480
And they've never attacked me. But they've been attacking people

1084
01:06:35,519 --> 01:06:38,519
out here now and I'm ringing the warning bells like

1085
01:06:38,559 --> 01:06:40,559
a lot of people shouldn't be up here putting lies

1086
01:06:40,599 --> 01:06:44,360
on the internet and encouraging people by their They say well,

1087
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,599
I do encourage anybody. Yeah, but your story does what

1088
01:06:47,639 --> 01:06:50,679
you're putting out does? I know if I was a

1089
01:06:50,719 --> 01:06:53,480
young man, i'd be raring to go. But some of

1090
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,119
the stuff I've read and some of us believable, but

1091
01:06:56,440 --> 01:07:01,800
I know it ain't. I watched program them after program

1092
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,960
about Bigfoot and dog Man, and all of it was lies.

1093
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,920
Because I know the animals. I've researched them. These animals

1094
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:14,440
don't behave that way. They're not your buddy. Oh a

1095
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,239
bigfoot come up and handed a man his baby, a

1096
01:07:17,239 --> 01:07:20,159
woman his baby, or a man and had praying hands

1097
01:07:20,239 --> 01:07:23,119
like this and bent over for help. I don't think

1098
01:07:23,199 --> 01:07:29,039
so that's nonsense. You're going to get somebody killed. How

1099
01:07:29,039 --> 01:07:34,519
about the truth, folks, how about the solid truth. It's dangerous.

1100
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:38,800
These are not These animals are known for their ferocity.

1101
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:43,159
They are worse than a grizzly bear, and they don't en.

1102
01:07:43,159 --> 01:07:48,480
They're smart people. May you may not be as lucky

1103
01:07:48,519 --> 01:07:51,679
as I was. I think the only reason they say

1104
01:07:51,679 --> 01:07:53,760
it's spared me my granddaughter is because they knew me.

1105
01:07:55,239 --> 01:07:58,360
But listen, that was a little too close for comfort.

1106
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:02,360
Why was it? How over to another one, and it answered,

1107
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:07,599
I got a feeling. It was because we were there,

1108
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:11,920
and I certainly wouldn't want to be going the other direction,

1109
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:16,000
going into the woods hearing that, because I got a

1110
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:17,720
good feeling that you would not come out, or I

1111
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:22,479
would not. I don't go back anymore. They're getting out

1112
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:27,399
of hand. They surrounded me, and that is hunting behavior.

1113
01:08:28,199 --> 01:08:34,840
That's not curiosity, that's intent. And I saw the legs

1114
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:38,600
walking folks. They thought that I was far enough that

1115
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:40,880
I couldn't see it, but I saw them, just like

1116
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:44,119
I'm looking at this glass on my table, and he

1117
01:08:44,159 --> 01:08:48,840
would They weren't probably thirty feet if that, but it

1118
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,600
was so thick in there, I couldn't see the upper body.

1119
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:53,840
And they moved with stell if you can't hear them

1120
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:58,039
except for occasionally stepping on a stick. But I know

1121
01:08:58,119 --> 01:09:00,560
what dog legs look like, and these were, and the

1122
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:04,359
feet were huge. And I feeled the one behind me,

1123
01:09:04,399 --> 01:09:06,239
as I said, and then the one in front of

1124
01:09:06,279 --> 01:09:08,920
me to my left, and then I heard the sticks

1125
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:12,520
around me. I was surrounded. They let me go. Vic,

1126
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:16,439
they let me go, But anybody else that they had

1127
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,520
not known, I don't think they would have been I

1128
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:20,239
think they ended up like the man in the tent.

1129
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,960
All those people running out there without their underwear on,

1130
01:09:23,159 --> 01:09:25,000
and that's not I don't mean that as a joke.

1131
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:29,640
That girl was terrified. I don't know whether she had

1132
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:32,359
her pants on, but she was running. Both of them

1133
01:09:32,359 --> 01:09:35,159
were running for their lives. I know what that looks like.

1134
01:09:36,199 --> 01:09:39,039
And I reported the incident, all of it. I reported

1135
01:09:39,079 --> 01:09:43,039
everything I told here except where it howled with me

1136
01:09:43,079 --> 01:09:47,079
and my granddaughter about ten or twelve feet away. I

1137
01:09:47,119 --> 01:09:49,640
had taken my granddaughter because they had nothing but peace.

1138
01:09:50,119 --> 01:09:53,319
But as I said, I had not had any aggression

1139
01:09:54,039 --> 01:09:56,880
that they let us go. That's too close. She never

1140
01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:00,920
came out again, none of them did. But folks, please

1141
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:04,920
heed my warning. Warn other people. You that know about

1142
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:09,079
dog men, warn other people. Don't be afraid. If confronted,

1143
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:14,159
just humbly back away. If you're in that situation, don't

1144
01:10:14,359 --> 01:10:17,239
shoot at him, don't provoke them. And there's a good

1145
01:10:17,319 --> 01:10:21,359
chance they're going to leave you alone. But they are territorial,

1146
01:10:22,079 --> 01:10:25,039
and I think that's that. What they showed me wasn't hunger.

1147
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:27,840
It was letting me know, this is our territory. Leave.

1148
01:10:29,359 --> 01:10:32,960
I got the message, queer, leave, You're not welcome here anymore.

1149
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:38,520
And so I don't know how much time we have.

1150
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,239
Vic I don't want to keep repeating myself, but the

1151
01:10:41,239 --> 01:10:44,720
torn t shirt, shredded, the dog men circling me, and

1152
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:48,720
seeing them their nature's changing. My granddaughter and I leave

1153
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:52,359
in the tent utterly destroyed, and the man shot his

1154
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:56,239
way out. That is a good indication that something evil

1155
01:10:56,359 --> 01:11:00,680
is going on. So please everybody, how much time do

1156
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:01,760
we have? I don't know.

1157
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:04,359
Speaker 1: Well, we're about out of time. But before we do

1158
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:06,640
get out of here, there are two things I wanted

1159
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:09,520
to ask you about. But yeah, please continue making your

1160
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,000
point and then I'll ask those two questions.

1161
01:11:13,239 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 2: My point is, please listen to what I told you.

1162
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:25,199
Don't go into woods that you don't know what's in there,

1163
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:30,039
and if you do decide to do that, trust your instincts.

1164
01:11:30,119 --> 01:11:33,439
If you feel something isn't right, get back in your

1165
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:37,000
car and even go somewhere else. I encourage people with

1166
01:11:37,079 --> 01:11:40,279
families just stay out of areas that are wooded like this.

1167
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:45,479
Stay in the family areas, whether it's swimming or barbecue grills,

1168
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:49,439
swings and fitness. Keep your kids there. Be wise, be

1169
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:53,840
smart because these animals are watching you, and a child

1170
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:57,680
is a very easy target and to see a mother

1171
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:02,000
lose your baby by a monster. That would be unbearable

1172
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:05,720
for me. That would be unbearable for me to know.

1173
01:12:06,079 --> 01:12:08,840
And I couldn't live with myself if I heard that

1174
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:12,000
that happened in that area and I didn't tell people,

1175
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:16,439
I couldn't live with myself. I know this is odd

1176
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:19,199
for me. You heard my This is completely the opposite

1177
01:12:19,199 --> 01:12:22,560
of what I've said before. But I've noticed this change,

1178
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,800
and I want to be honest with vic's viewers, and

1179
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:29,279
I want you all to understand something. I'm a pretty

1180
01:12:29,279 --> 01:12:33,439
good judge of folks, and I love this guy here.

1181
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He loves people, He cares about him. He seems to

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really honestly has a concern for people, and he's proved

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it by letting me do this. And I think people

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ought to listen to his channel, not because of money,

1185
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but because of VIC, not because of subscriptions, but because

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of VIC, and all listen to this. He is a

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wealth of information. How many stories has this man heard

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stuff like this? He's a good man to talk to,

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good man to listen to. And I think you ought

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to and he's proved that by allowing me to bring

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out these truths here today on his platform. I highly

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recommend them, folks, I really do, and I mean that

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from my heart. I'm not saying that it's because I

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like the guy. I'm saying that because it's needful. It's

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very needful. People. We are curious. It's our nature to

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be curious. But don't let your curiosity kill you. Don't

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let it do that. Be safe. Whatever you do, be safe.

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Please remember what I said. They are getting more vicious

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all the time, more and more truth are being told.

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I don't know what's going on, but protect yourself. Whatever

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you do, protect yourself and keep a good spirit about it.

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Like I said before, keep it, don't fear things, but

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be wise. Listen to your instincts. Best for you. With children,

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listen to your motherly instincts. They're strong and they won't

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need you wrong. They won't please. That's about it, because

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that's all I need to say.

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Speaker 1: I think well, like I said before, I think it

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says everything about your character. The fact that you wanted

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to come back on to put this warning out here,

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because you could have kept it to yourself, but you didn't. So,

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like I said, that says everything. Marshall. I know you

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said that this was going to be your last show

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that you ever do on this But I've got a

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lot of questions I'd like to ask you about these

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experiences and your findings. Is there any way you'd be

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interested in coming back for a Q and A and

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then that could be the last show that you.

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Speaker 2: Do because you let me do this thing. Yeah, for you,

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I'll do it.

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Speaker 1: Oh good, I'll do it.

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Speaker 2: I'll do it for you.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Idea. Well, yeah, I'll get with you

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after we finish here to schedule that Q and A

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in We'll just have you come back on and I've

1225
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got a laundry list of questions for you, And of

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course i'd love to be able to ask you these questions.

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Speaker 2: Sure, but you've got review People like to leave replies,

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leave them, leave whatevery questions, you know, for vic, whatever

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you have, I'm going to read it myself because I'd

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like to see who is listening. And it makes me

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feel good to see that people listen and are going

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to take heed to these simple things like this, because

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it can save your life. It really can.

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Speaker 1: Marshall. I really hope you never change because you're a

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good man. You're one of the good ones. And yeah,

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I can't say that enough. But having said that, thanks

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again so much for coming on and of course I'm

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looking forward to having you come back to do.

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Speaker 2: That Q and a sure any time for you, anytime

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it's appreciated.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, like I said, thanks again so much and

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have a great nights.

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Speaker 2: English