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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp the

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<v Speaker 1>House Whisper on demand on the iHeart Radio app. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>we are spending the morning talking about the small things,

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<v Speaker 1>the small little fix it tips and tricks and techniques

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<v Speaker 1>that end up, in my experience, really frustrating most di

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<v Speaker 1>wires when they get into a project. It's not the

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<v Speaker 1>big concept. It's not following the instructions. It's finding out

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to use this damn screwdriver the

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<v Speaker 1>right way. Well, you know we're going to get there,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I'm handing out pearls today. But right now,

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<v Speaker 1>top of the hour, and is our tradition, it is

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<v Speaker 1>time to go to the phones, and so let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>to John. Hey, John, welcome home.

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<v Speaker 2>Dean, Thank you for taking the call. Appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>You're so welcome. How can I help you?

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<v Speaker 2>So we have a nineteen fifty six style stucco house

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<v Speaker 2>in Riverside. It was probably last painted, who knows when

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<v Speaker 2>ninety year old guy owned it. We've been there four years.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to need paint work and repair to the stucco,

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<v Speaker 2>the rafters and so on. My question is do we

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<v Speaker 2>do a regular paint job, or do we go with

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<v Speaker 2>something like a rhino coat, which I know was advertised

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<v Speaker 2>a few years ago, or on KFFI there's Fitztower, but

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<v Speaker 2>also I think it's doing a tech coat product. The

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<v Speaker 2>interesting thing about those they say it's lifetime, although you're

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<v Speaker 2>stuck with the color, but the fact it's also lifetime

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<v Speaker 2>and it might have some fire retaught and built in.

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<v Speaker 2>The Other thing is, since you're working with a contractor

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<v Speaker 2>as opposed to a painter who does repair work, sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>they do really lousy work. So what you're feeling on

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<v Speaker 2>first the type of product and secondly, who's best to

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<v Speaker 2>do that type of work.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, a painter is you know, a professional license paint

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<v Speaker 4>is best to do the work in my opinion, or

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<v Speaker 4>you as the homeowner. It's one of those things. Painting

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<v Speaker 4>is one of those things where you know house painting,

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<v Speaker 4>where the fact of the matter is if you're willing

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<v Speaker 4>to go through the steps and do these same steps

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<v Speaker 4>that even though there are a number of them, same

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<v Speaker 4>steps that a regular contractor will do. They may do

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<v Speaker 4>it quicker, a little bit more efficiently, but they won't

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<v Speaker 4>necessarily do a better job than you. So it's really

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<v Speaker 4>a question of is somebody following through with all the steps. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not so much the deft hand of the professional painter.

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<v Speaker 4>We're not painting Mona Lisa's here. We're putting, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>liquid materials on surfaces that have been prepped properly and

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<v Speaker 4>masked off properly. So no denigration whatsoever to professional house painters.

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<v Speaker 4>I love you. I love the work you do. But

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<v Speaker 4>the fact of the matter is it's not fine art.

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<v Speaker 4>It is a craft, it is a trade. It is

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<v Speaker 4>a series of well executed steps. So can a contractor

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<v Speaker 4>do that? Of course? Can you do it? Yes, professional painter?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Does it matter to me? Who does it not? Particularly?

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<v Speaker 4>What matters to me is whether somebody is stepping through

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<v Speaker 4>all of the necessary steps. And when I say all

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<v Speaker 4>the necessary steps, I mean that. On any paint job,

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<v Speaker 4>for any home, the standard rule is that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>ninety percent of the work is prep preparation, patching done right,

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<v Speaker 4>preparation done right, opening up the existing surface, priming the

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<v Speaker 4>existing surface properly, and so on. The last thing. The

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<v Speaker 4>application of the paint itself is the easy part. It

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<v Speaker 4>is the prep work and the elbow grease that goes

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<v Speaker 4>into getting those surfaces ready for paint that not only

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<v Speaker 4>make the difference in the appearance of the paint, but

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<v Speaker 4>make all the difference in the world as to the

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<v Speaker 4>longevity of the paint. And that takes me to your

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<v Speaker 4>second question about materials. The fact of the matter is,

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<v Speaker 4>since that house was painted, the entire there is there is,

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<v Speaker 4>it's kind of a misnomer. Should I use regular paint

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<v Speaker 4>or some of this new fangled stuff that's come out.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything is new fangled, Okay, it's all new fangled. Every

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<v Speaker 4>paint company, Benjamin Moore, this is the pink, the paint

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<v Speaker 4>brand that I use almost exclusively inside and out on

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<v Speaker 4>most homes. But whether it's Benjamin Moore Paint, whether it's

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<v Speaker 4>Done Edwards, whether it's any major brand of paint company,

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<v Speaker 4>or it's these specialty products like rhino coat and these

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<v Speaker 4>other elastameric products. The fact of the matter is every

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<v Speaker 4>major manufacturer is continuing their research and development and continuing

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<v Speaker 4>to move their products forward. So the question is as

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<v Speaker 4>a designer, well, I'll put it this way. As a contractor,

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<v Speaker 4>I am confident in any well applied quality exterior product.

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<v Speaker 4>So I know this may not help you because I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not saying something like yeah, use the rhino coat. Forget

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<v Speaker 4>about regular exterior house paint or vice versa. What I'm

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<v Speaker 4>saying is that any well applied quality exterior product is

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<v Speaker 4>going to do great right. So, as a contractor, I

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<v Speaker 4>know it's all in the prep and the quality of

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<v Speaker 4>the product. Whether it's regular air quotes here house exterior

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<v Speaker 4>house paint, whether it has a fire resistant element in

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<v Speaker 4>it or which there are plenty of, and or whether

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<v Speaker 4>it's an elastimeric stucco coating paint or coating. The fact

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<v Speaker 4>of the matter is if the prep was done right

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<v Speaker 4>and if the application was done right, I'm confident. So

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<v Speaker 4>that's the contractor, that's the builder in me, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm turning away from the builder now and talking

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<v Speaker 4>to the designer in me. The designer wants specific colors,

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<v Speaker 4>specific textures, specific sheens on the outside of that house.

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<v Speaker 4>And so the question is from a design perspective, which

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<v Speaker 4>of those products are actually going to give us the

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<v Speaker 4>best look for the outside of the house. And that

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<v Speaker 4>is what often not always John, but often leads us

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<v Speaker 4>back away from some of the specialty stuff, the elastimeric

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<v Speaker 4>rhinotype coatings. Back to the major paint manufacturers, with you know,

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<v Speaker 4>ten gabillion colors and all of the finishes that I need,

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<v Speaker 4>and their top of the line exterior paints applied well.

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<v Speaker 4>Paint these days is a brilliant science. It's in its

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<v Speaker 4>golden age. It has only gotten better. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 4>a well prepared house, well patched stucco in good condition

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<v Speaker 4>without moisture intrusion in it. Any paint that you put

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<v Speaker 4>on the house, I guarantee you done well, could take

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<v Speaker 4>you thirty plus years. And the elastimeric coding never actually

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<v Speaker 4>seen one that's more than thirty years old without some

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<v Speaker 4>issues in it. I know they say lifetime, but then again,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, thirty forty years later, those companies, a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of them don't exist anymore, so they don't have to

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<v Speaker 4>worry about honoring a lifetime warrantine, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And I appreciate this very much. This is extremely helpful.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, you bring up a good point about

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<v Speaker 2>color choices, because you know, most of the houses in

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<v Speaker 2>the wood streets here in Riverside, they're Beiji. Everybody goes

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<v Speaker 2>pretty mundane. And we would like to add a little

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<v Speaker 2>sponkan to this house, obviously, and with detail and so on,

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<v Speaker 2>as far as gabby rafters and things coming off the

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<v Speaker 2>roofline which will need to be replaced. Do you feel

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<v Speaker 2>that a good paint contractor can handle that or are

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<v Speaker 2>we talking about somebody who needs to have a greater expertise.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, as far as replacing rafter tails that are damaged,

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<v Speaker 4>I would turn to a carpenter for that. If it's

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<v Speaker 4>a matter of there's been some moisture damage or some

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<v Speaker 4>bug damage, termite damage, and we just need to apply

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<v Speaker 4>some bondo to an existing rafter, A qualified painter should

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<v Speaker 4>be able to do that, just by.

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<v Speaker 2>As always, thank you very much. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you remember, but last year you helped you often to

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<v Speaker 2>actually go get some UV material for us so my

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<v Speaker 2>wife for says MS and we were going to redo

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<v Speaker 2>her studio. We still are in the midst of doing that,

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<v Speaker 2>so I might be in touch for that at some point.

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<v Speaker 2>As always, thank you and Tina very much. Take care,

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<v Speaker 2>be well and stay safe.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks John, thanks so much for being such a committed listener,

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<v Speaker 4>and good luck on that new project. All right, Kindness, patience,

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<v Speaker 4>bit of creativity and respect. That's what you get when

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<v Speaker 4>you call in here.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to home with Dean Sharp on demand from

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<v Speaker 5>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 4>We're talking fix it tips and tricks, the kind of

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<v Speaker 4>stuff that you're not hearing on YouTube videos. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 4>about the little things, the little things that end up

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<v Speaker 4>making all the difference, the tiny, tiny little tips and

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<v Speaker 4>techniques that you have to do in a DIY project,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe multiple times that nobody told you exactly how that works,

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<v Speaker 4>and in my experience, it becomes one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 4>points of frustration as you're working out your spring DIY stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>And so take an entire show today to just give

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<v Speaker 4>you just a list of pearls of wisdom when it

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<v Speaker 4>in just a bit, but right now we're taking calls.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to go back to the phones. I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to talk to John A. John A. Welcome home.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, good morning, Dean, to you and your staff. My

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<v Speaker 6>question is pertaining to I had a mahogany front door

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<v Speaker 6>installed about just about a year ago and they put

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<v Speaker 6>a stain on it. Well fast forward to now almost

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<v Speaker 6>a year. It doesn't look too good, looks like it's

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<v Speaker 6>starting to aid a little bit. So I'm looking to

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<v Speaker 6>tackle the project and redo it myself. What they use

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<v Speaker 6>was some bar thine premium wood stain from the big

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<v Speaker 6>box store. Okay, And I just wanted something just like

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<v Speaker 6>a clear matt finish, keeping the natural color. And it

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<v Speaker 6>did stain it, and they didn't prep it correctly because

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<v Speaker 6>there's still some like factory small little holes and deans

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<v Speaker 6>and stuff like that. So also what's the best stuff

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<v Speaker 6>to use to cover up those holes? So later on

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<v Speaker 6>this when you stain it, it doesn't bleed.

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<v Speaker 3>Through right right? Right? Oh? Okay? Uh? What direction does

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<v Speaker 3>this front door face?

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<v Speaker 6>It faces south? And also it's uh, it's got vertical

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<v Speaker 6>But it does face south.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, gotcha.

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<v Speaker 4>So it gets a good it gets it gets some

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<v Speaker 6>You know what. It does get like probably half to

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<v Speaker 6>date from the bottom about the middle to the bottom.

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<v Speaker 6>It gets sun. And then when it does rain, the uh,

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<v Speaker 6>it does get a little bit of us splashing from

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<v Speaker 6>the concrete toward the water hitting the concrete. So something

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I got you, all right, So here is my

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<v Speaker 4>suggestion to you and understand and where oh you know what,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what John we'll running a little.

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<v Speaker 3>Behind, as I do sometimes.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I pop you on hold real quick, because I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna give you and everybody else who's listening, who is

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<v Speaker 4>the exact same situation. They're thinking, Oh my gosh, finally

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<v Speaker 4>give it the time that it is due. So let

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<v Speaker 4>me pop you back on hold. We're going to go

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<v Speaker 4>to a break and we'll come back and I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to tell y'all how I feel about mahogany front doors

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<v Speaker 4>and how to treat them.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. Does that sound good? All right? Pop John on hold.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from

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<v Speaker 4>We're taking calls. I've got John on the line. Let

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<v Speaker 4>me make sure I didn't hang up on him.

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<v Speaker 6>John.

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<v Speaker 3>You're still there, Bud, Yes, I'm still here. Dean all right.

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<v Speaker 4>So John has got a mahogany front door face and said,

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<v Speaker 4>gets a little sunlight, gets a little weather. That guys

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<v Speaker 4>put it in about a year ago, stained it. Now

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<v Speaker 4>Little few little pock marks in it. And he wants

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<v Speaker 4>to know what to do and what's the best way

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<v Speaker 4>to treat this. So I'll tell you right now, John,

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<v Speaker 4>And the reason I held you over is because I

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<v Speaker 4>you're free to do it anyway you want. There are

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<v Speaker 4>two schools of thought when it comes to exterior grade doors.

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<v Speaker 4>One school, which is what I would call the traditional

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<v Speaker 4>school of thought, or maybe the most popular school of

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<v Speaker 4>thought along these lines of exterior doors, is that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you just you seal them up, you wrap them in plastic,

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<v Speaker 4>and you do everything you can to protect them from

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<v Speaker 4>all sorts of weather. And that basically means that if

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<v Speaker 3>Uh. And then you're gonna put on at.

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<v Speaker 4>Least two coats of exterior grade polyurethane and in hopefully

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<v Speaker 4>a satin or a matte finish so it doesn't get

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<v Speaker 4>the door. Some people are gonna say, no, don't use polyurethane.

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<v Speaker 4>Use marine grade spar varnished, you know, like you do

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>These are all approaches, right, That's one school of thought,

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<v Speaker 4>the seal it up, plasticize.

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<v Speaker 3>It, and and and done.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree with that on doors that are made of

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<v Speaker 4>less I don't want to say lesser material, because I

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<v Speaker 4>love all wood, but woods that aren't necessarily, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>naturally prone to resisting moisture. So uh, you know pine doors,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean those doors like that, Douglas fir doors, you're

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<v Speaker 4>asic doors. Yeah, let's put as much protection on them

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<v Speaker 4>as possible. You, my friend, have a mahogany front door.

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<v Speaker 4>Understand that I, when it comes to woods like that,

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<v Speaker 4>am of the other school of thought, and that is this.

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<v Speaker 4>I like wood. I love wood. I'm a woodworker, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>a joiner, I'm a carpenter. And one of the things

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<v Speaker 4>that just keeps me fascinated with doing that kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>despite the fact that I spend all my time designing houses,

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<v Speaker 4>is the fact that I just love wood. And so

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<v Speaker 4>when I'm looking for a certain color out of a

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<v Speaker 4>piece of wood, I prefer to just find the right

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<v Speaker 4>species of wood that gives me that color and keep

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<v Speaker 4>it natural, as opposed to buying a door, let's say,

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<v Speaker 4>out of any species of wood and then staining it

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<v Speaker 4>to try and get it look a different way. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I love natural wood and I think it's just the

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<v Speaker 4>most beautiful thing on the planet. And when it comes

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<v Speaker 4>to an exterior door, a mahogany door, Mahogany is a

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<v Speaker 4>tropical rainforest hardwood. It is a wood that is as

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<v Speaker 4>moisture resistant in and of itself as a wood gets

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<v Speaker 4>okay for the most part, just short of being an

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<v Speaker 4>iron wood. And so you have on your hands there

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<v Speaker 4>an incredibly weather resistant door. And my approach to that

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<v Speaker 4>is keep it simple and keep it beautiful. And what

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<v Speaker 4>I mean by this is the first approach that I described.

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<v Speaker 4>It will last, but at some point down the line,

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<v Speaker 4>no matter how quality the application is of plastic coatings,

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<v Speaker 4>varnishes and polyurethanes, at some point down the line, there

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<v Speaker 4>will be yellowing, there will be cracking, and there will

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<v Speaker 4>be the need to redo it, at which point you've

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<v Speaker 4>got all these layers of chemical all over this door,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's gonna be a whole thing. As opposed to

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<v Speaker 4>taking the beauty of this mahogany and simply taking it

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<v Speaker 4>from where it is now, giving it a good clean,

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<v Speaker 4>a good sanding, a tiny little bit of patching and

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<v Speaker 4>repair work with a stainable wood putty. Okay, a stainable

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<v Speaker 4>wood putty. And they're out there, they're they're they're sold,

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<v Speaker 4>and they go out of their way to tell you

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<v Speaker 4>this is sustainable wood putty. And then here is my preference.

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<v Speaker 4>Strip that door down, get it past its its old stain,

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<v Speaker 4>get it nice and uniform and looking beautiful. Sanded it down,

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<v Speaker 4>smooth and beautiful and lovely, and cover it. Wipe it

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<v Speaker 4>down with one or two coats of a great uv

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<v Speaker 4>resistant penetrating mahogany oil. Okay, you can use teak oil.

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<v Speaker 4>You could use tongue oil, any kind of oil like

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<v Speaker 4>that that binds with the natural oils in the mahogany.

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<v Speaker 4>It brings out nothing but the natural color of the mahogany.

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<v Speaker 4>And it lasts, and it really really does last. And

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<v Speaker 4>here is the key. It will not necessarily last as

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<v Speaker 4>long as the polyurethane stuff. If that's done well, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>you get two or three years out of it, and

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<v Speaker 4>then you start to see it looks like a little fade.

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<v Speaker 3>But guess what.

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<v Speaker 4>At that point, because you've just oiled this doore, all

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<v Speaker 4>you do is walk into the garage, take your bottle

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<v Speaker 4>of tongue oil, open it up, squeeze a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>out on a rag, and walk out to your front door.

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<v Speaker 4>You spend five minutes re rubbing your door, and you're

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<v Speaker 4>good to go again, and it's like brand new once again.

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<v Speaker 4>That is my opinion of the best way to maintain

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<v Speaker 4>and treat what is already and incredibly beautiful and moisture

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<v Speaker 4>resistant exterior door. The idea of five minutes of touch

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<v Speaker 4>up every couple three years, to me, seems like not

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<v Speaker 4>a big deal. Versus I know at one point I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna have to take this all apart, strip it all down,

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<v Speaker 4>and redo it all again because it has this southern

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<v Speaker 4>exposure and it's getting blasted by the sun. I'm way

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<v Speaker 4>way more in favor of the beauty, the texture, the

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<v Speaker 4>touch of a well oiled, natural, open grain piece of wood.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll give you one more example. The countertops. Half of

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<v Speaker 4>the countertops in my kitchen are made out of black walnut.

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<v Speaker 4>I know that because I installed them myself. Black walnut,

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<v Speaker 4>no polyrthane, no sealers on them. All I do is

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<v Speaker 4>use a food grade mineral oil, butcher block oil. To

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<v Speaker 4>you know, every three months or so, give it a

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<v Speaker 4>wipe down, and whoop, they're brand new, no moisture damage,

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<v Speaker 4>no color damage. Everybody loves the touch of the wood

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<v Speaker 4>because when they touch these countertops, they're touching wood, not

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<v Speaker 4>the plastic coating on top of it. And it just

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<v Speaker 4>means all the world to me. That's what I would

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<v Speaker 4>recommend to you. Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, yeah, that makes sense, Dean, You're a life saver.

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<v Speaker 6>Just to follow up on that, do you suggest I

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<v Speaker 6>handsand it or I use a machine and just go

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<v Speaker 6>real gentle with it. And it seems like it's still

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<v Speaker 6>salvageable where I can take that coding or that staining

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<v Speaker 6>that they did off. And I did listen to your

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<v Speaker 6>show a couple weeks ago about a pencil trick where

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<v Speaker 6>you kind of scribble with a lead pencil and that

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<v Speaker 6>way you know that you're not going too deep. So

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<v Speaker 6>just what are your thoughts on that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, actually that was me and Conway talking on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm as, actually, you've spilled the beans.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Now that's the.

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<v Speaker 4>Next trick that I'm going to have to discuss on

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<v Speaker 4>the show today because I was going to talk about

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<v Speaker 4>it anyway. So that's fine. Great, but yeah, no, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean hand sanding. And if you can fit a you know,

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<v Speaker 4>an orbital variable speed sander, use that because they do

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<v Speaker 4>the job without crossing the grain the wrong way. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>why why put in all the elbow grease If you

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<v Speaker 4>can fit a sander on the surface of the door,

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<v Speaker 4>so variable grain, you start with maybe one hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>eighty grit sandpaper and then work, you know, use the

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<v Speaker 4>pencil trick which everybody else we will describe shortly, and

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<v Speaker 4>use the pencil trick and uh, and then just keep

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<v Speaker 4>up backing off on the grains, go to two hundred

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<v Speaker 4>and plus until it's just really nice and smooth and beautiful,

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<v Speaker 4>and then you're ready to go. And and by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>there are natural tongue oil is naturally UV resistant, but

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<v Speaker 4>there are also some really good wood oils out there

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<v Speaker 4>that have an extra UV resistant quality in them. They'll

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<v Speaker 6>Excellent. Sounds good, Dean, Thank you very much. I look

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<v Speaker 6>forward to doing this, man. I can't thank you enough.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, John, send me a pick when you're done, buddy,

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<v Speaker 4>I want to see that beautiful mahogany door that I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just gonna want up you want to go up to

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<v Speaker 4>and just rub my hands all over it because it's wood,

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<v Speaker 4>real wood, not wood behind glass.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, y'all, how about this.

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<v Speaker 4>When we return, We're going to get back to our

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<v Speaker 4>list and the very first thing on the list.

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<v Speaker 3>John just gave you a teaser for.

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<v Speaker 4>The sanding pencil trick if you weren't with me on

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<v Speaker 4>the Conway Show Thursday night. It is, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 4>one of the best tricks tips out there in the

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<v Speaker 4>world of DIY and construction and one of the least

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<v Speaker 4>known by homeowners. And I'm going to reveal it right after.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from

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<v Speaker 5>KFI AM six Forty's.

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<v Speaker 4>A privilege and an honor as always to spend time

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<v Speaker 4>with you on this sun every Sunday morning live here

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<v Speaker 4>talking about this thing that is so important to all

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<v Speaker 4>of us, our homes and turning our ordinary houses, if possible,

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<v Speaker 4>and it is possible, into an extraordinary home.

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<v Speaker 3>How am I doing it today?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm helping you do it today by talking about the

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<v Speaker 4>little things the DIY fix it tips that you're not

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<v Speaker 4>going to necessarily see in that YouTube video or in

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<v Speaker 4>that instructional sheet or those set of instructions for that

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<v Speaker 4>big project that you're trying to take on. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 4>about the things that once you're in it, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>once you're in it, you find out, Oh I wish

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<v Speaker 4>I actually knew a little bit more about this one

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<v Speaker 4>thing that I'm doing now, because this is the thing

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<v Speaker 4>that frustrating me. That's what I'm trying to dress for

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<v Speaker 4>you today. The little things kind of almost sub instructional

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<v Speaker 4>tips that make all the difference. And I believe me

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<v Speaker 4>in my experience, they really really do.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>Our previous caller had a mahogany front door and we

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<v Speaker 4>had a whole conversation about refinishing that in oil as

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<v Speaker 4>opposed to sealing it. And he had brought up that

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<v Speaker 4>he had heard me say he thought it was a

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<v Speaker 4>few weeks ago. Was actually just Thursday night on Conway.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, on Tim Conway's show, I'm there every

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<v Speaker 4>Thursday night from six twenty until six fifty, so you

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<v Speaker 4>tune in. We always have a really good time. I

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<v Speaker 4>loved Tim, and he loves talking to me about all things.

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<v Speaker 4>He loves throwing stuff at me just to see how

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<v Speaker 4>well I can hit those pitches, and I you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I do pretty good anyway. Talking to Tim in preview

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<v Speaker 4>of today's show, I had mentioned something to him which is,

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<v Speaker 4>in my opinion, it is one of the most This

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<v Speaker 4>is a weird one. It's one of the most well

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<v Speaker 4>known tips or tricks in the woodworking and anything having

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<v Speaker 4>to do with sanding community among builders and crafts people,

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<v Speaker 4>and simultaneously, I think it's one of the least.

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<v Speaker 3>Well known among di wires and homeowners. And so what

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<v Speaker 3>is it?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Johnny brought up the question of like sanding, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>when you're standing a door or anything of importance. Let's

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<v Speaker 4>say you've got a sanding project to do. Maybe you've

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<v Speaker 4>got a table or patio table or something that you decided,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what, it's all kind of screwed up. I

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<v Speaker 4>want to sand it down and just give it a

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<v Speaker 4>new look. How much standing is enough? How do we

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<v Speaker 4>know once we start sanding a thing? You know, the

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<v Speaker 4>problem is you forget where you've been with the sander.

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<v Speaker 4>You're not sure, and all of a sudden you're doubting,

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<v Speaker 4>have I covered that area enough? Have I covered this

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<v Speaker 4>thing enough? Have I sanded enough for this first sheet

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<v Speaker 4>of sand paper? And you know the general rule by

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<v Speaker 4>the way, when I say first sheet of sand paper,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not talking about that you standing until the sandpaper

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<v Speaker 4>is no good anymore. I'm talking about the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>when we're sanding something back to a finish, we always

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<v Speaker 4>start with the more coarse sand paper to give it

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<v Speaker 4>a hit, take off the big stuff, the big problems,

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<v Speaker 4>and then we pull that sand paper off the sander

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<v Speaker 4>or off our sanding block, and we put on a

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<v Speaker 4>finer grit sand paper and give it a once over,

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<v Speaker 4>and then a finer grit sand paper and a finer

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<v Speaker 4>grit sandpaper. Sometimes on a project where we're really trying

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<v Speaker 4>to get fine furniture finish on a thing, we may

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<v Speaker 4>go through four or five steps of grit of sand

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<v Speaker 4>paper from something that's more course to something that is

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<v Speaker 4>super fine. But the question is, for each of those steps,

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<v Speaker 4>for each of those layers, how do you know you've

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<v Speaker 4>covered everything and how do you know you've sanded it enough? Well,

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<v Speaker 4>here's how you know. All you need to accomplish this

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<v Speaker 4>task is a number two pencil. Now, you may have

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<v Speaker 4>a lumber pencil if you're you've got a workshop and

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<v Speaker 4>you use those kinds of that's fine. That's the same

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<v Speaker 4>kind of lead, but a number two pencil. You know

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<v Speaker 4>that you used to take the sat with fill in

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<v Speaker 4>those boxes with a number two pencil, a number two pencil.

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<v Speaker 4>And here's what you do. Here's the table before you

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<v Speaker 4>that we're standing. Here's the surface. I want you to

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<v Speaker 4>take that pencil, and there's a very important pencil. Not

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<v Speaker 4>a pen not a sharpie. We're not looking for something

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<v Speaker 4>that is going to soak in. That's not good. A

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<v Speaker 4>number two pencil, which is essentially a writing implement that

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<v Speaker 4>leaves its residue on the surface of a thing. And

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<v Speaker 4>I want you to just scribble all over the top

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<v Speaker 4>of that table. I'm calling it a table because that's

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<v Speaker 4>in my imagination. Here, that's what we're standing, from corner

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<v Speaker 4>to corner, edge to edge, and all across the middle.

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<v Speaker 4>Just scribble all over it. And then take out your

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<v Speaker 4>sander with your first course of sandpaper and sand off

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<v Speaker 4>the pencil mark.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah.

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<v Speaker 4>Guess what When the pencil mark is gone, When the

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<v Speaker 4>scribble that you just created is gone, you have done

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<v Speaker 4>two things. Number one, you have sanded enough, and number two,

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<v Speaker 4>you have sanded everything evenly because the scribble was all

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<v Speaker 4>over the surface. That, my friend, is the sanding pencil trick.

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<v Speaker 4>And then what do you do?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you do?

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<v Speaker 4>You change out your sandpaper to the next course of

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<v Speaker 4>fineness and scribble all over the table again. It's fun

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<v Speaker 4>and it works out your frustrations, and you can write

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<v Speaker 4>notes to the people who've been annoying you and then

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<v Speaker 4>erase them with your sander once again. Keep doing that

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<v Speaker 4>until you have moved to the finest grit of paper

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<v Speaker 4>that you are going to use to finish your project,

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<v Speaker 4>and you will have sanded everything evenly and everything enough.

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<v Speaker 4>Pencil doesn't just sit solely on the surface, otherwise you'd

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<v Speaker 4>be able to wipe it off like chalk. Pencil up

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<v Speaker 4>in most wood surfaces is going to penetrate a fraction

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<v Speaker 4>of a millimeter, and that's usually all we're looking for.

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<v Speaker 4>Every time we change sandpaper, coarseness and hit it again

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<v Speaker 4>the pencil trick. Mark it down. Mark this date down

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<v Speaker 4>in history. Today is the day that you learned the

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<v Speaker 4>sanding pencil trick. All right, I got more of them

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<v Speaker 4>up my sleeve. We'll talk about it right after the break.

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<v Speaker 4>You are listening to Home with Dean Sharp the House

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