Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp the
Speaker 1: House Whisper on demand on the iHeart Radio app. All right,
Speaker 1: we are spending the morning talking about the small things,
Speaker 1: the small little fix it tips and tricks and techniques
Speaker 1: that end up, in my experience, really frustrating most di
Speaker 1: wires when they get into a project. It's not the
Speaker 1: big concept. It's not following the instructions. It's finding out
Speaker 1: I don't know how to use this damn screwdriver the
Speaker 1: right way. Well, you know we're going to get there,
Speaker 1: and so I'm handing out pearls today. But right now,
Speaker 1: top of the hour, and is our tradition, it is
Speaker 1: time to go to the phones, and so let's talk
Speaker 1: to John. Hey, John, welcome home.
Speaker 2: Dean, Thank you for taking the call. Appreciate it.
Speaker 3: You're so welcome. How can I help you?
Speaker 2: So we have a nineteen fifty six style stucco house
Speaker 2: in Riverside. It was probably last painted, who knows when
Speaker 2: ninety year old guy owned it. We've been there four years.
Speaker 2: It's going to need paint work and repair to the stucco,
Speaker 2: the rafters and so on. My question is do we
Speaker 2: do a regular paint job, or do we go with
Speaker 2: something like a rhino coat, which I know was advertised
Speaker 2: a few years ago, or on KFFI there's Fitztower, but
Speaker 2: also I think it's doing a tech coat product. The
Speaker 2: interesting thing about those they say it's lifetime, although you're
Speaker 2: stuck with the color, but the fact it's also lifetime
Speaker 2: and it might have some fire retaught and built in.
Speaker 2: The Other thing is, since you're working with a contractor
Speaker 2: as opposed to a painter who does repair work, sometimes
Speaker 2: they do really lousy work. So what you're feeling on
Speaker 2: first the type of product and secondly, who's best to
Speaker 2: do that type of work.
Speaker 4: Well, a painter is you know, a professional license paint
Speaker 4: is best to do the work in my opinion, or
Speaker 4: you as the homeowner. It's one of those things. Painting
Speaker 4: is one of those things where you know house painting,
Speaker 4: where the fact of the matter is if you're willing
Speaker 4: to go through the steps and do these same steps
Speaker 4: that even though there are a number of them, same
Speaker 4: steps that a regular contractor will do. They may do
Speaker 4: it quicker, a little bit more efficiently, but they won't
Speaker 4: necessarily do a better job than you. So it's really
Speaker 4: a question of is somebody following through with all the steps. Okay,
Speaker 4: it's not so much the deft hand of the professional painter.
Speaker 4: We're not painting Mona Lisa's here. We're putting, you know,
Speaker 4: liquid materials on surfaces that have been prepped properly and
Speaker 4: masked off properly. So no denigration whatsoever to professional house painters.
Speaker 4: I love you. I love the work you do. But
Speaker 4: the fact of the matter is it's not fine art.
Speaker 4: It is a craft, it is a trade. It is
Speaker 4: a series of well executed steps. So can a contractor
Speaker 4: do that? Of course? Can you do it? Yes, professional painter?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: Does it matter to me? Who does it not? Particularly?
Speaker 4: What matters to me is whether somebody is stepping through
Speaker 4: all of the necessary steps. And when I say all
Speaker 4: the necessary steps, I mean that. On any paint job,
Speaker 4: for any home, the standard rule is that you know,
Speaker 4: ninety percent of the work is prep preparation, patching done right,
Speaker 4: preparation done right, opening up the existing surface, priming the
Speaker 4: existing surface properly, and so on. The last thing. The
Speaker 4: application of the paint itself is the easy part. It
Speaker 4: is the prep work and the elbow grease that goes
Speaker 4: into getting those surfaces ready for paint that not only
Speaker 4: make the difference in the appearance of the paint, but
Speaker 4: make all the difference in the world as to the
Speaker 4: longevity of the paint. And that takes me to your
Speaker 4: second question about materials. The fact of the matter is,
Speaker 4: since that house was painted, the entire there is there is,
Speaker 4: it's kind of a misnomer. Should I use regular paint
Speaker 4: or some of this new fangled stuff that's come out.
Speaker 4: Everything is new fangled, Okay, it's all new fangled. Every
Speaker 4: paint company, Benjamin Moore, this is the pink, the paint
Speaker 4: brand that I use almost exclusively inside and out on
Speaker 4: most homes. But whether it's Benjamin Moore Paint, whether it's
Speaker 4: Done Edwards, whether it's any major brand of paint company,
Speaker 4: or it's these specialty products like rhino coat and these
Speaker 4: other elastameric products. The fact of the matter is every
Speaker 4: major manufacturer is continuing their research and development and continuing
Speaker 4: to move their products forward. So the question is as
Speaker 4: a designer, well, I'll put it this way. As a contractor,
Speaker 4: I am confident in any well applied quality exterior product.
Speaker 4: So I know this may not help you because I'm
Speaker 4: not saying something like yeah, use the rhino coat. Forget
Speaker 4: about regular exterior house paint or vice versa. What I'm
Speaker 4: saying is that any well applied quality exterior product is
Speaker 4: going to do great right. So, as a contractor, I
Speaker 4: know it's all in the prep and the quality of
Speaker 4: the product. Whether it's regular air quotes here house exterior
Speaker 4: house paint, whether it has a fire resistant element in
Speaker 4: it or which there are plenty of, and or whether
Speaker 4: it's an elastimeric stucco coating paint or coating. The fact
Speaker 4: of the matter is if the prep was done right
Speaker 4: and if the application was done right, I'm confident. So
Speaker 4: that's the contractor, that's the builder in me, all right,
Speaker 4: So I'm turning away from the builder now and talking
Speaker 4: to the designer in me. The designer wants specific colors,
Speaker 4: specific textures, specific sheens on the outside of that house.
Speaker 4: And so the question is from a design perspective, which
Speaker 4: of those products are actually going to give us the
Speaker 4: best look for the outside of the house. And that
Speaker 4: is what often not always John, but often leads us
Speaker 4: back away from some of the specialty stuff, the elastimeric
Speaker 4: rhinotype coatings. Back to the major paint manufacturers, with you know,
Speaker 4: ten gabillion colors and all of the finishes that I need,
Speaker 4: and their top of the line exterior paints applied well.
Speaker 4: Paint these days is a brilliant science. It's in its
Speaker 4: golden age. It has only gotten better. And like I said,
Speaker 4: a well prepared house, well patched stucco in good condition
Speaker 4: without moisture intrusion in it. Any paint that you put
Speaker 4: on the house, I guarantee you done well, could take
Speaker 4: you thirty plus years. And the elastimeric coding never actually
Speaker 4: seen one that's more than thirty years old without some
Speaker 4: issues in it. I know they say lifetime, but then again,
Speaker 4: you know, thirty forty years later, those companies, a lot
Speaker 4: of them don't exist anymore, so they don't have to
Speaker 4: worry about honoring a lifetime warrantine, right.
Speaker 2: And I appreciate this very much. This is extremely helpful.
Speaker 2: And you know, you bring up a good point about
Speaker 2: color choices, because you know, most of the houses in
Speaker 2: the wood streets here in Riverside, they're Beiji. Everybody goes
Speaker 2: pretty mundane. And we would like to add a little
Speaker 2: sponkan to this house, obviously, and with detail and so on,
Speaker 2: as far as gabby rafters and things coming off the
Speaker 2: roofline which will need to be replaced. Do you feel
Speaker 2: that a good paint contractor can handle that or are
Speaker 2: we talking about somebody who needs to have a greater expertise.
Speaker 4: Well, as far as replacing rafter tails that are damaged,
Speaker 4: I would turn to a carpenter for that. If it's
Speaker 4: a matter of there's been some moisture damage or some
Speaker 4: bug damage, termite damage, and we just need to apply
Speaker 4: some bondo to an existing rafter, A qualified painter should
Speaker 4: be able to do that, just by.
Speaker 2: As always, thank you very much. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you remember, but last year you helped you often to
Speaker 2: actually go get some UV material for us so my
Speaker 2: wife for says MS and we were going to redo
Speaker 2: her studio. We still are in the midst of doing that,
Speaker 2: so I might be in touch for that at some point.
Speaker 2: As always, thank you and Tina very much. Take care,
Speaker 2: be well and stay safe.
Speaker 4: Thanks John, thanks so much for being such a committed listener,
Speaker 4: and good luck on that new project. All right, Kindness, patience,
Speaker 4: bit of creativity and respect. That's what you get when
Speaker 4: you call in here.
Speaker 5: You're listening to home with Dean Sharp on demand from
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Speaker 4: We're talking fix it tips and tricks, the kind of
Speaker 4: stuff that you're not hearing on YouTube videos. I'm talking
Speaker 4: about the little things, the little things that end up
Speaker 4: making all the difference, the tiny, tiny little tips and
Speaker 4: techniques that you have to do in a DIY project,
Speaker 4: maybe multiple times that nobody told you exactly how that works,
Speaker 4: and in my experience, it becomes one of the biggest
Speaker 4: points of frustration as you're working out your spring DIY stuff.
Speaker 4: And so take an entire show today to just give
Speaker 4: you just a list of pearls of wisdom when it
Speaker 4: comes to that. We're going to get back to that
Speaker 4: in just a bit, but right now we're taking calls.
Speaker 4: I want to go back to the phones. I'm going
Speaker 4: to talk to John A. John A. Welcome home.
Speaker 6: Hey, good morning, Dean, to you and your staff. My
Speaker 6: question is pertaining to I had a mahogany front door
Speaker 6: installed about just about a year ago and they put
Speaker 6: a stain on it. Well fast forward to now almost
Speaker 6: a year. It doesn't look too good, looks like it's
Speaker 6: starting to aid a little bit. So I'm looking to
Speaker 6: tackle the project and redo it myself. What they use
Speaker 6: was some bar thine premium wood stain from the big
Speaker 6: box store. Okay, And I just wanted something just like
Speaker 6: a clear matt finish, keeping the natural color. And it
Speaker 6: did stain it, and they didn't prep it correctly because
Speaker 6: there's still some like factory small little holes and deans
Speaker 6: and stuff like that. So also what's the best stuff
Speaker 6: to use to cover up those holes? So later on
Speaker 6: this when you stain it, it doesn't bleed.
Speaker 3: Through right right? Right? Oh? Okay? Uh? What direction does
Speaker 3: this front door face?
Speaker 6: It faces south? And also it's uh, it's got vertical
Speaker 6: it's got about nine rectangular vertical windows going across it.
Speaker 6: But it does face south.
Speaker 3: Okay, gotcha.
Speaker 4: So it gets a good it gets it gets some
Speaker 4: exposure to the sun.
Speaker 6: You know what. It does get like probably half to
Speaker 6: date from the bottom about the middle to the bottom.
Speaker 6: It gets sun. And then when it does rain, the uh,
Speaker 6: it does get a little bit of us splashing from
Speaker 6: the concrete toward the water hitting the concrete. So something
Speaker 6: to seal it up for elements.
Speaker 4: Okay, I got you, all right, So here is my
Speaker 4: suggestion to you and understand and where oh you know what,
Speaker 4: you know what John we'll running a little.
Speaker 3: Behind, as I do sometimes.
Speaker 4: Can I pop you on hold real quick, because I'm
Speaker 4: gonna give you and everybody else who's listening, who is
Speaker 4: the exact same situation. They're thinking, Oh my gosh, finally
Speaker 4: he's going to answer this question. I just want to
Speaker 4: give it the time that it is due. So let
Speaker 4: me pop you back on hold. We're going to go
Speaker 4: to a break and we'll come back and I'm going
Speaker 4: to tell y'all how I feel about mahogany front doors
Speaker 4: and how to treat them.
Speaker 3: Right. Does that sound good? All right? Pop John on hold.
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Speaker 4: We're taking calls. I've got John on the line. Let
Speaker 4: me make sure I didn't hang up on him.
Speaker 6: John.
Speaker 3: You're still there, Bud, Yes, I'm still here. Dean all right.
Speaker 4: So John has got a mahogany front door face and said,
Speaker 4: gets a little sunlight, gets a little weather. That guys
Speaker 4: put it in about a year ago, stained it. Now
Speaker 4: it's not looking so great, fading back.
Speaker 3: It's got a.
Speaker 4: Little few little pock marks in it. And he wants
Speaker 4: to know what to do and what's the best way
Speaker 4: to treat this. So I'll tell you right now, John,
Speaker 4: And the reason I held you over is because I
Speaker 4: wanted to give this more thorough explanation and make an
Speaker 4: argument for my approach to this kind of thing. And
Speaker 4: you're free to do it anyway you want. There are
Speaker 4: two schools of thought when it comes to exterior grade doors.
Speaker 4: One school, which is what I would call the traditional
Speaker 4: school of thought, or maybe the most popular school of
Speaker 4: thought along these lines of exterior doors, is that you know,
Speaker 4: you just you seal them up, you wrap them in plastic,
Speaker 4: and you do everything you can to protect them from
Speaker 4: all sorts of weather. And that basically means that if
Speaker 4: there's a stain on there that you're gonna prep it,
Speaker 4: you're gonna restain it.
Speaker 3: Uh. And then you're gonna put on at.
Speaker 4: Least two coats of exterior grade polyurethane and in hopefully
Speaker 4: a satin or a matte finish so it doesn't get
Speaker 4: all shiny on you, and you're just gonna seal up
Speaker 4: the door. Some people are gonna say, no, don't use polyurethane.
Speaker 4: Use marine grade spar varnished, you know, like you do
Speaker 4: on a boat. And uh and that's all.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: These are all approaches, right, That's one school of thought,
Speaker 4: the seal it up, plasticize.
Speaker 3: It, and and and done.
Speaker 4: I agree with that on doors that are made of
Speaker 4: less I don't want to say lesser material, because I
Speaker 4: love all wood, but woods that aren't necessarily, you know,
Speaker 4: naturally prone to resisting moisture. So uh, you know pine doors,
Speaker 4: I mean those doors like that, Douglas fir doors, you're
Speaker 4: asic doors. Yeah, let's put as much protection on them
Speaker 4: as possible. You, my friend, have a mahogany front door.
Speaker 4: Understand that I, when it comes to woods like that,
Speaker 4: am of the other school of thought, and that is this.
Speaker 4: I like wood. I love wood. I'm a woodworker, I'm
Speaker 4: a joiner, I'm a carpenter. And one of the things
Speaker 4: that just keeps me fascinated with doing that kind of stuff,
Speaker 4: despite the fact that I spend all my time designing houses,
Speaker 4: is the fact that I just love wood. And so
Speaker 4: when I'm looking for a certain color out of a
Speaker 4: piece of wood, I prefer to just find the right
Speaker 4: species of wood that gives me that color and keep
Speaker 4: it natural, as opposed to buying a door, let's say,
Speaker 4: out of any species of wood and then staining it
Speaker 4: to try and get it look a different way. Okay,
Speaker 4: I love natural wood and I think it's just the
Speaker 4: most beautiful thing on the planet. And when it comes
Speaker 4: to an exterior door, a mahogany door, Mahogany is a
Speaker 4: tropical rainforest hardwood. It is a wood that is as
Speaker 4: moisture resistant in and of itself as a wood gets
Speaker 4: okay for the most part, just short of being an
Speaker 4: iron wood. And so you have on your hands there
Speaker 4: an incredibly weather resistant door. And my approach to that
Speaker 4: is keep it simple and keep it beautiful. And what
Speaker 4: I mean by this is the first approach that I described.
Speaker 4: It will last, but at some point down the line,
Speaker 4: no matter how quality the application is of plastic coatings,
Speaker 4: varnishes and polyurethanes, at some point down the line, there
Speaker 4: will be yellowing, there will be cracking, and there will
Speaker 4: be the need to redo it, at which point you've
Speaker 4: got all these layers of chemical all over this door,
Speaker 4: and it's gonna be a whole thing. As opposed to
Speaker 4: taking the beauty of this mahogany and simply taking it
Speaker 4: from where it is now, giving it a good clean,
Speaker 4: a good sanding, a tiny little bit of patching and
Speaker 4: repair work with a stainable wood putty. Okay, a stainable
Speaker 4: wood putty. And they're out there, they're they're they're sold,
Speaker 4: and they go out of their way to tell you
Speaker 4: this is sustainable wood putty. And then here is my preference.
Speaker 4: Strip that door down, get it past its its old stain,
Speaker 4: get it nice and uniform and looking beautiful. Sanded it down,
Speaker 4: smooth and beautiful and lovely, and cover it. Wipe it
Speaker 4: down with one or two coats of a great uv
Speaker 4: resistant penetrating mahogany oil. Okay, you can use teak oil.
Speaker 4: You could use tongue oil, any kind of oil like
Speaker 4: that that binds with the natural oils in the mahogany.
Speaker 4: It brings out nothing but the natural color of the mahogany.
Speaker 4: And it lasts, and it really really does last. And
Speaker 4: here is the key. It will not necessarily last as
Speaker 4: long as the polyurethane stuff. If that's done well, maybe
Speaker 4: you get two or three years out of it, and
Speaker 4: then you start to see it looks like a little fade.
Speaker 3: But guess what.
Speaker 4: At that point, because you've just oiled this doore, all
Speaker 4: you do is walk into the garage, take your bottle
Speaker 4: of tongue oil, open it up, squeeze a little bit
Speaker 4: out on a rag, and walk out to your front door.
Speaker 4: You spend five minutes re rubbing your door, and you're
Speaker 4: good to go again, and it's like brand new once again.
Speaker 4: That is my opinion of the best way to maintain
Speaker 4: and treat what is already and incredibly beautiful and moisture
Speaker 4: resistant exterior door. The idea of five minutes of touch
Speaker 4: up every couple three years, to me, seems like not
Speaker 4: a big deal. Versus I know at one point I'm
Speaker 4: gonna have to take this all apart, strip it all down,
Speaker 4: and redo it all again because it has this southern
Speaker 4: exposure and it's getting blasted by the sun. I'm way
Speaker 4: way more in favor of the beauty, the texture, the
Speaker 4: touch of a well oiled, natural, open grain piece of wood.
Speaker 4: I'll give you one more example. The countertops. Half of
Speaker 4: the countertops in my kitchen are made out of black walnut.
Speaker 4: I know that because I installed them myself. Black walnut,
Speaker 4: no polyrthane, no sealers on them. All I do is
Speaker 4: use a food grade mineral oil, butcher block oil. To
Speaker 4: you know, every three months or so, give it a
Speaker 4: wipe down, and whoop, they're brand new, no moisture damage,
Speaker 4: no color damage. Everybody loves the touch of the wood
Speaker 4: because when they touch these countertops, they're touching wood, not
Speaker 4: the plastic coating on top of it. And it just
Speaker 4: means all the world to me. That's what I would
Speaker 4: recommend to you. Does that make sense?
Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, that makes sense, Dean, You're a life saver.
Speaker 6: Just to follow up on that, do you suggest I
Speaker 6: handsand it or I use a machine and just go
Speaker 6: real gentle with it. And it seems like it's still
Speaker 6: salvageable where I can take that coding or that staining
Speaker 6: that they did off. And I did listen to your
Speaker 6: show a couple weeks ago about a pencil trick where
Speaker 6: you kind of scribble with a lead pencil and that
Speaker 6: way you know that you're not going too deep. So
Speaker 6: just what are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, actually that was me and Conway talking on Thursday,
Speaker 4: and I'm as, actually, you've spilled the beans.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Now that's the.
Speaker 4: Next trick that I'm going to have to discuss on
Speaker 4: the show today because I was going to talk about
Speaker 4: it anyway. So that's fine. Great, but yeah, no, I
Speaker 4: mean hand sanding. And if you can fit a you know,
Speaker 4: an orbital variable speed sander, use that because they do
Speaker 4: the job without crossing the grain the wrong way. You know,
Speaker 4: why why put in all the elbow grease If you
Speaker 4: can fit a sander on the surface of the door,
Speaker 4: so variable grain, you start with maybe one hundred and
Speaker 4: eighty grit sandpaper and then work, you know, use the
Speaker 4: pencil trick which everybody else we will describe shortly, and
Speaker 4: use the pencil trick and uh, and then just keep
Speaker 4: up backing off on the grains, go to two hundred
Speaker 4: and plus until it's just really nice and smooth and beautiful,
Speaker 4: and then you're ready to go. And and by the way,
Speaker 4: there are natural tongue oil is naturally UV resistant, but
Speaker 4: there are also some really good wood oils out there
Speaker 4: that have an extra UV resistant quality in them. They'll
Speaker 4: hold up longer that southern sun exposure.
Speaker 6: Excellent. Sounds good, Dean, Thank you very much. I look
Speaker 6: forward to doing this, man. I can't thank you enough.
Speaker 4: Well, John, send me a pick when you're done, buddy,
Speaker 4: I want to see that beautiful mahogany door that I'm
Speaker 4: just gonna want up you want to go up to
Speaker 4: and just rub my hands all over it because it's wood,
Speaker 4: real wood, not wood behind glass.
Speaker 3: All right, y'all, how about this.
Speaker 4: When we return, We're going to get back to our
Speaker 4: list and the very first thing on the list.
Speaker 3: John just gave you a teaser for.
Speaker 4: The sanding pencil trick if you weren't with me on
Speaker 4: the Conway Show Thursday night. It is, in my opinion,
Speaker 4: one of the best tricks tips out there in the
Speaker 4: world of DIY and construction and one of the least
Speaker 4: known by homeowners. And I'm going to reveal it right after.
Speaker 5: You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from
Speaker 5: KFI AM six Forty's.
Speaker 4: A privilege and an honor as always to spend time
Speaker 4: with you on this sun every Sunday morning live here
Speaker 4: talking about this thing that is so important to all
Speaker 4: of us, our homes and turning our ordinary houses, if possible,
Speaker 4: and it is possible, into an extraordinary home.
Speaker 3: How am I doing it today?
Speaker 4: I'm helping you do it today by talking about the
Speaker 4: little things the DIY fix it tips that you're not
Speaker 4: going to necessarily see in that YouTube video or in
Speaker 4: that instructional sheet or those set of instructions for that
Speaker 4: big project that you're trying to take on. I'm talking
Speaker 4: about the things that once you're in it, you know,
Speaker 4: once you're in it, you find out, Oh I wish
Speaker 4: I actually knew a little bit more about this one
Speaker 4: thing that I'm doing now, because this is the thing
Speaker 4: that frustrating me. That's what I'm trying to dress for
Speaker 4: you today. The little things kind of almost sub instructional
Speaker 4: tips that make all the difference. And I believe me
Speaker 4: in my experience, they really really do.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: Our previous caller had a mahogany front door and we
Speaker 4: had a whole conversation about refinishing that in oil as
Speaker 4: opposed to sealing it. And he had brought up that
Speaker 4: he had heard me say he thought it was a
Speaker 4: few weeks ago. Was actually just Thursday night on Conway.
Speaker 4: By the way, on Tim Conway's show, I'm there every
Speaker 4: Thursday night from six twenty until six fifty, so you
Speaker 4: tune in. We always have a really good time. I
Speaker 4: loved Tim, and he loves talking to me about all things.
Speaker 4: He loves throwing stuff at me just to see how
Speaker 4: well I can hit those pitches, and I you know,
Speaker 4: I do pretty good anyway. Talking to Tim in preview
Speaker 4: of today's show, I had mentioned something to him which is,
Speaker 4: in my opinion, it is one of the most This
Speaker 4: is a weird one. It's one of the most well
Speaker 4: known tips or tricks in the woodworking and anything having
Speaker 4: to do with sanding community among builders and crafts people,
Speaker 4: and simultaneously, I think it's one of the least.
Speaker 3: Well known among di wires and homeowners. And so what
Speaker 3: is it?
Speaker 4: Well, Johnny brought up the question of like sanding, you know,
Speaker 4: when you're standing a door or anything of importance. Let's
Speaker 4: say you've got a sanding project to do. Maybe you've
Speaker 4: got a table or patio table or something that you decided,
Speaker 4: you know what, it's all kind of screwed up. I
Speaker 4: want to sand it down and just give it a
Speaker 4: new look. How much standing is enough? How do we
Speaker 4: know once we start sanding a thing? You know, the
Speaker 4: problem is you forget where you've been with the sander.
Speaker 4: You're not sure, and all of a sudden you're doubting,
Speaker 4: have I covered that area enough? Have I covered this
Speaker 4: thing enough? Have I sanded enough for this first sheet
Speaker 4: of sand paper? And you know the general rule by
Speaker 4: the way, when I say first sheet of sand paper,
Speaker 4: I'm not talking about that you standing until the sandpaper
Speaker 4: is no good anymore. I'm talking about the fact that
Speaker 4: when we're sanding something back to a finish, we always
Speaker 4: start with the more coarse sand paper to give it
Speaker 4: a hit, take off the big stuff, the big problems,
Speaker 4: and then we pull that sand paper off the sander
Speaker 4: or off our sanding block, and we put on a
Speaker 4: finer grit sand paper and give it a once over,
Speaker 4: and then a finer grit sand paper and a finer
Speaker 4: grit sandpaper. Sometimes on a project where we're really trying
Speaker 4: to get fine furniture finish on a thing, we may
Speaker 4: go through four or five steps of grit of sand
Speaker 4: paper from something that's more course to something that is
Speaker 4: super fine. But the question is, for each of those steps,
Speaker 4: for each of those layers, how do you know you've
Speaker 4: covered everything and how do you know you've sanded it enough? Well,
Speaker 4: here's how you know. All you need to accomplish this
Speaker 4: task is a number two pencil. Now, you may have
Speaker 4: a lumber pencil if you're you've got a workshop and
Speaker 4: you use those kinds of that's fine. That's the same
Speaker 4: kind of lead, but a number two pencil. You know
Speaker 4: that you used to take the sat with fill in
Speaker 4: those boxes with a number two pencil, a number two pencil.
Speaker 4: And here's what you do. Here's the table before you
Speaker 4: that we're standing. Here's the surface. I want you to
Speaker 4: take that pencil, and there's a very important pencil. Not
Speaker 4: a pen not a sharpie. We're not looking for something
Speaker 4: that is going to soak in. That's not good. A
Speaker 4: number two pencil, which is essentially a writing implement that
Speaker 4: leaves its residue on the surface of a thing. And
Speaker 4: I want you to just scribble all over the top
Speaker 4: of that table. I'm calling it a table because that's
Speaker 4: in my imagination. Here, that's what we're standing, from corner
Speaker 4: to corner, edge to edge, and all across the middle.
Speaker 4: Just scribble all over it. And then take out your
Speaker 4: sander with your first course of sandpaper and sand off
Speaker 4: the pencil mark.
Speaker 3: Ah.
Speaker 4: Guess what When the pencil mark is gone, When the
Speaker 4: scribble that you just created is gone, you have done
Speaker 4: two things. Number one, you have sanded enough, and number two,
Speaker 4: you have sanded everything evenly because the scribble was all
Speaker 4: over the surface. That, my friend, is the sanding pencil trick.
Speaker 4: And then what do you do?
Speaker 3: What do you do?
Speaker 4: You change out your sandpaper to the next course of
Speaker 4: fineness and scribble all over the table again. It's fun
Speaker 4: and it works out your frustrations, and you can write
Speaker 4: notes to the people who've been annoying you and then
Speaker 4: erase them with your sander once again. Keep doing that
Speaker 4: until you have moved to the finest grit of paper
Speaker 4: that you are going to use to finish your project,
Speaker 4: and you will have sanded everything evenly and everything enough.
Speaker 4: Pencil doesn't just sit solely on the surface, otherwise you'd
Speaker 4: be able to wipe it off like chalk. Pencil up
Speaker 4: in most wood surfaces is going to penetrate a fraction
Speaker 4: of a millimeter, and that's usually all we're looking for.
Speaker 4: Every time we change sandpaper, coarseness and hit it again
Speaker 4: the pencil trick. Mark it down. Mark this date down
Speaker 4: in history. Today is the day that you learned the
Speaker 4: sanding pencil trick. All right, I got more of them
Speaker 4: up my sleeve. We'll talk about it right after the break.
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