Speaker 1: You see something's going to happen.
Speaker 2: What what's going to happen?
Speaker 1: I'll think on.
Speaker 2: What help.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Headless Giants Magical mailbag tonight. I got my
Speaker 1: co host Nick from The Rejects.
Speaker 2: Nick, tell them how you're doing doing great man, I
Speaker 2: was looking forward to this. Thank you very much for
Speaker 2: having me on again. I appreciate it. It's always fun.
Speaker 1: Well, I decided, well, thank you for being here. I
Speaker 1: decided to add a segment and it's going to be
Speaker 1: uh named that glyph. And so right now, I've got
Speaker 1: a hieroglyph from Egypt right there as you can see that,
Speaker 1: and it's uh. The pronunciation is netscher n t j
Speaker 1: e n e t j e r netcher and this
Speaker 1: is the glyph for the gods. So the gods are
Speaker 1: called netsure in ancient Egyptian. And this neature sign, this
Speaker 1: nature glyph is in the shape of a flag. What
Speaker 1: could that possibly mean? What are they trying to say?
Speaker 1: There is the flag our god? I mean, I think
Speaker 1: there's something going on because Netsure, I believe, is where
Speaker 1: we get our word nature from the gods of nature.
Speaker 1: Right kind of makes sense, and what the right nature worship?
Speaker 1: Also what about the nature of mankind, mankind's nature, And
Speaker 1: wouldn't that make sense with the flag? Wouldn't that make
Speaker 1: sense with the way people do the hero worship. Wouldn't
Speaker 1: that make sense with the way that societies have been
Speaker 1: dominated by religion and by statism all these years? And
Speaker 1: so what they're doing, I believe, is showing you right here,
Speaker 1: this is your god, this is your flag. Everybody salute
Speaker 1: the flag. It's right there for you. So that is
Speaker 1: this week's little name, that glyph.
Speaker 2: I like it. I had no idea me neither.
Speaker 1: I heard her on a podcast. I'm like, Metcher, what
Speaker 1: is that? And so I looked it up and I'm like,
Speaker 1: holy shit, it's a flag. What are they trying to say?
Speaker 1: And then we see all throughout history fly here, everybody
Speaker 1: worshiped the flag, everybody go for it. And it occurred
Speaker 1: to me it fits perfectly with my definition of the gods.
Speaker 1: And if you guys have been listening, you've probably heard
Speaker 1: it before. But my definition of a god would be
Speaker 1: a personification of a sphere of influence. So if we're
Speaker 1: talking about you know, any kind of nature gods, any
Speaker 1: kind of gods over certain specific type of behaviors, it's
Speaker 1: like they're over top of the sphere of influence, and
Speaker 1: so they create a personification for that, and then you've
Speaker 1: got people that worship it. Well, what if the state,
Speaker 1: which the state is defined as a monopoly over the
Speaker 1: legitimate use of violence within a given area. And you
Speaker 1: can really see how those two cross over, because you've
Speaker 1: got this idea of the borders, right, and the circle
Speaker 1: of influence, and how let's say you've got Hermes, right,
Speaker 1: which is the idea of the god that goes across
Speaker 1: all borders, and that would be his sphere of influences
Speaker 1: is to go across the borders. Well, you've got the presidents,
Speaker 1: which are the personification of the people who elected him
Speaker 1: in the ritualistic manner that they did.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: Neture in the Egyptian can be induced, right, and so
Speaker 1: it says here gods and goddess is worshiped by the Egyptians.
Speaker 1: The word neture, it's a flagger, a pole wrapped in
Speaker 1: a band of cloth, could be related to a cult.
Speaker 1: Neture were created through undergoing a ritual after their birth. Right,
Speaker 1: So what happens when you elect a president? They're going
Speaker 1: through a ritual.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that thing is ritualistic. Look at the way it's
Speaker 2: done in everything. You even raise the energy of the
Speaker 2: people and make them get up and go to the
Speaker 2: fucking election machines.
Speaker 1: It's all right there. I mean when you break it down,
Speaker 1: and these are the people who start at the mystery schools,
Speaker 1: the mystery cults, and those have carried on to this
Speaker 1: very day. So it's really hard not to understand that
Speaker 1: there's a big connection between this ancient Egyptian idea of
Speaker 1: how to create a god through these rituals after birth
Speaker 1: and the way we have it now.
Speaker 2: If you can hill on the bottom, you know, one
Speaker 2: of them even looks like a damn hockey stick, bro,
Speaker 2: you know, one even looks like a tassel. I feel
Speaker 2: like we've probably seen this thing multiple times in our faces.
Speaker 1: Right well, I mean if it's on the flag call,
Speaker 1: we see it every day, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean I just eat it in other
Speaker 2: areas too, who knows. I swear that does look like
Speaker 2: some sort of like like you think that you would
Speaker 2: use in a game, almost like well, what it is,
Speaker 2: what it is?
Speaker 1: To relate it back to the Greek I think that
Speaker 1: if you look at how they used to do battles
Speaker 1: during the whole you know Iliad times where they're going
Speaker 1: to war against the Trojans, they would have messengers from
Speaker 1: the king holding a baton that had white ribbons on it,
Speaker 1: and so the messengers from the king would not be
Speaker 1: allowed to be killed. So these guys are running around
Speaker 1: like those those coaches you see on the LARPing stage, right,
Speaker 1: except you know, they're watching people get killed and then
Speaker 1: running back and giving the messages to the kings and
Speaker 1: telling them how things are going on the battlefield. This
Speaker 1: is where you get the idea of the Cadusius or
Speaker 1: the staff of hermes Is because originally he had that
Speaker 1: baton with the with the flag on it, and then
Speaker 1: it turned in the snakes later on. So even the
Speaker 1: whole idea here, it's it's all sort of connected to
Speaker 1: that Netscher idea, like he's the messenger of the gods
Speaker 1: and he's carrying the poll with the flags on it.
Speaker 1: So all of this stuff seems to start to transfer
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's not unrelated. And then you've got
Speaker 1: heraldry of all these kings and queens and they have
Speaker 1: all their symbols on them, and then they put them
Speaker 1: on the flag, and you know they're basically showing you
Speaker 1: what they want you to do through this deep ancestral
Speaker 1: tie in with the gods.
Speaker 2: You know what big pipes Scottish Yes they are, and
Speaker 2: that's interesting because they have that tassel on there, two
Speaker 2: of those little flakes. And somebody was mentioning. You got
Speaker 2: Martin Carson in the chat saying he's talking about the
Speaker 2: tassel and I guess the flay with the Trump's golf
Speaker 2: course and symbolizing the Scottish right. And I was It
Speaker 2: made me when he said Scottish right. I thought of
Speaker 2: bagpipes and I was like, go bankpipe says that tassel
Speaker 2: on it doesn't it? And well they have like little
Speaker 2: flags on the end of the things.
Speaker 1: Well it's getting close to uh, Saint Patrick's day rooms.
Speaker 2: Yeah, is that on a room that symbol too? No?
Speaker 2: Uh could that be the flag? Isn't there one that
Speaker 2: looks like a pan in the rooms? I don't know.
Speaker 2: That's not my my gig. I'm just thinking, I guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me look it up real quick, because I
Speaker 1: know you got Fay who and Fay Who's like a
Speaker 1: backwards f with two little stripes that come down, and
Speaker 1: that's the symbol of the god. It's used in bind
Speaker 1: ruins to show the god. So there could be a
Speaker 1: link between Nutscher and Fay who and who is the
Speaker 1: first you know ruin of the runic alphabet.
Speaker 2: Called It looks like that wound jhow thing wound jow wojo. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it means joy w u n j oh, like a
Speaker 2: fucking jj jj and the chat dropping jewels. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it looks like uh the won juw.
Speaker 1: Won jew o.
Speaker 2: W w u n j o w and j oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, yeah, Lucy rose up. He's always got
Speaker 2: some cool art behind him, like switches it up.
Speaker 1: You gotta pay attention, And that's the one for joy.
Speaker 1: Isn't that interesting?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I honestly I did think that too when I
Speaker 2: pulled it up, but I was like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: runs really, I'm not gonna say something to look like
Speaker 2: an idiot because I'm wrong. I was like, that kind
Speaker 2: of does I think look like one?
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's killing the opposite way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the opposite direction.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's interesting, that's really interesting. I like that.
Speaker 2: Even the Hangman upside down made me think of like
Speaker 2: that image. But upside down. I was like, if you
Speaker 2: put your leg it kind of looks like that again.
Speaker 1: I was thinking feyhu, but very close. But there's so
Speaker 1: much of a tie in between Egyptian and Norse that
Speaker 1: people really don't realize it, because there was probably Egyptian
Speaker 1: evacuees that landed in Ireland and spread a lot of
Speaker 1: their beliefs into the Celtic beliefs and transferred all that
Speaker 1: stuff over to all sorts of different cults up there.
Speaker 2: You know, you know what I saw, and you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know how truthful it is, and it wasn't
Speaker 2: even in social media somehow, I sort of like on
Speaker 2: the news online and they said, I gotta look it
Speaker 2: back up. It could be fucking bullshit that I think
Speaker 2: they actually found like some sort of European DNA like
Speaker 2: in the Egyptian mummies or something. So basically they're saying, like,
Speaker 2: we hate to tell you, but these motherfuckers were white. Basically,
Speaker 2: that's what the DNA was saying, like duns are there
Speaker 2: probably wait.
Speaker 1: Right, So there was a big controversy for a long
Speaker 1: time because they didn't want to say it. They're like, well,
Speaker 1: these people are African, but they called black people someub
Speaker 1: Saharan Africans because they live below the Sahara, and for
Speaker 1: thousands of years above the Sahara, it was white Europeans
Speaker 1: that had settled into that area. And Egypt used to
Speaker 1: be the bread basket of all of the Mediterranean. This
Speaker 1: is one of the reasons why Egypt was so powerful
Speaker 1: and everything else is because they had the land that
Speaker 1: was growing the wheat that they eventually used to export
Speaker 1: to all the rest of the parts of the Mediterranean
Speaker 1: because droughts and what have you, and all that land
Speaker 1: around the Nile was considered the most fertile in the world,
Speaker 1: so it was the food capital of everywhere. So they
Speaker 1: did have a massive influence in spreading their culture just
Speaker 1: by spreading that grain, because everybody loved beer, and beer
Speaker 1: was this Samerian invention that came from the wheat, so
Speaker 1: you had to have the wheat and the honey to
Speaker 1: get the beer. So and man, if you know anything
Speaker 1: about Iraq, they have salt that ends up getting deposited
Speaker 1: in the soil after they have their floods, So you've
Speaker 1: got about ten years of harvest before the soil becomes
Speaker 1: completely unusable and then it's just basically salty desert from
Speaker 1: that point on. So they would keep going through these cycles,
Speaker 1: moving further and further up north. And if you look
Speaker 1: at the old maps that show where the settlements were,
Speaker 1: all those settlements are basically fifty miles away from where
Speaker 1: the water used to be because of all the sediment deposits.
Speaker 1: So they were originally like right there on the shoreline,
Speaker 1: and then all the sediment gets deposited and they're nowhere
Speaker 1: near the shoreline anymore. So when they talk about Samerians
Speaker 1: having these fish gods, it's because they used to be
Speaker 1: a lot closer to the sea than what they are
Speaker 1: today because of all that sediment. So I've got one email. Guys,
Speaker 1: if you have emails you want to share, all you
Speaker 1: gotta do is email me at Headless Giant Podcast at
Speaker 1: gmail dot com to submit your stories of the esoteric, occult, magical,
Speaker 1: or paranormal experiences. This one is from Benjamin Salinas and
Speaker 1: he's showing me a bunch of pictures of Alex Gray paintings. Oh,
Speaker 1: we can do a whole episode on Alex Gray paintings.
Speaker 2: I've seen that before.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is in his Sacred Hall of Mirrors. Cosm.
Speaker 1: He was heavily influenced by Golden Dawn and all the
Speaker 1: rest of that stuff. He's really big into psionics now too,
Speaker 1: so he writes. He says, dear head List, first of all,
Speaker 1: thank you for your work and keep doing what you're doing.
Speaker 1: Love what you've been sharing on the Occult Rejects podcast
Speaker 1: with Nick, been following since he first started coming on
Speaker 1: the Occult Rejects and also subscribe to your podcast as well.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. I wanted to share this experience
Speaker 1: I had in nature in Eaton Canyon, Pasadena area during
Speaker 1: a hike with my buddy years ago. It was a
Speaker 1: regular thing in my mid twenties to go on hikes
Speaker 1: with my friend up at Eaton Canyon and a few
Speaker 1: other hikes we like to trek in socow so we
Speaker 1: would also we would often share a bountiful amount of ganjab.
Speaker 1: That was like me, that's the thing to do, man,
Speaker 1: go for hikes and get blazed, not kitty.
Speaker 2: Don't go too far though, because any get too stony
Speaker 2: to be like, I don't want to walk back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, camp it out under the stud there you go,
Speaker 1: there you go. Let me see. We would all pitch
Speaker 1: in on psilocybin, mushrooms, some acid from time to time,
Speaker 1: as well as ecstasy on rarer occasions, full party.
Speaker 2: Run around naked like Joel Gardener in the woods.
Speaker 1: We said, skyclad in the wick again.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, I'm sorry, I haven't heard that in log Dude,
Speaker 2: you just killed.
Speaker 1: It takes you back? Does it? A cone power? Sky Clad?
Speaker 1: There you go. This one day we decided to combine
Speaker 1: our psychedelics. We took one eighth of an ounce of shrooms,
Speaker 1: an acid tab and ecstasy stack. I only took half,
Speaker 1: and we had taken all our substances at the top
Speaker 1: of this waterfall that was off the main trail in
Speaker 1: the Ukrainion and our root was climbing up through the
Speaker 1: waterfalls of the canyons. Ps I personally never had mixed
Speaker 1: these substances at once. Well, you're in for a rude
Speaker 1: surprise because ecstasy basically, you know, cancels out the shrooms
Speaker 1: and the acid.
Speaker 2: So good luck with that, hey, Lucy said in the
Speaker 2: chat candy flip, and I haven't heard that one to
Speaker 2: it a long time. Holy shit, I haven't heard that
Speaker 2: since race people would take it. They would take like
Speaker 2: I think the shrooms maybe I think it was more
Speaker 2: of a they said ecstasy and something else. I don't
Speaker 2: think it was shrooms or maybe dust, But I mean,
Speaker 2: you really not eating that though, But yeah, I haven't
Speaker 2: heard that in a minute flip.
Speaker 1: But it's just like you never know what you're getting
Speaker 1: when it comes to ecstasy. It's just not even worth
Speaker 1: the bottom.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: After we finished taking our mix of psychedelics, we finished
Speaker 1: climbing the second waterfall, and it immediately hits me all
Speaker 1: at once. I don't think I even ate breakfast that day.
Speaker 1: I felt lightheaded and tried to tell Jose, shouting at him, Hey,
Speaker 1: I need to stop, bro I remember, he kept on
Speaker 1: going for a little while. Meanwhile, I had to stop
Speaker 1: and I puked out most of the substances I had
Speaker 1: just taken and sat there not feeling too well. I
Speaker 1: felt like I was in a really dark place energetically,
Speaker 1: just sitting in my negativity. Next thing I know, Jose
Speaker 1: comes back and recognizes I'm not doing okay, pulls me
Speaker 1: away from my vomit, and then I immediately felt so
Speaker 1: much better. But then I get this signal telling me
Speaker 1: I need to meditate. So that's what I did. I
Speaker 1: told Jose I had to stop again and sit there
Speaker 1: and meditate. During the meditation, I had one of the
Speaker 1: strangest experiences in my life. I definitely beamed somewhere else. Consciously,
Speaker 1: I found myself in my mind's eye in front of
Speaker 1: this enormous golden yellow being with three faces. It felt
Speaker 1: like I was so tiny in comparison. The three face
Speaker 1: being did not want to see me. He looked at
Speaker 1: me and without any words, he communicated to me that
Speaker 1: I should not be in his presence. I felt like
Speaker 1: he was shaming me for being there. I felt this
Speaker 1: energy while meditating as well that I felt like I
Speaker 1: was connected to the all or everything living, if that
Speaker 1: makes sense. After this three face being dismisses me, I
Speaker 1: come back from the meditation still feeling connected to everything
Speaker 1: and feeling very positive and sensitive to subtle energies. We
Speaker 1: run into these other hikers and we happily share some
Speaker 1: ganja and I give them the mushrooms. It was a
Speaker 1: wonderful time. After that, I find Alex grayce interpreted interpretation
Speaker 1: of the three face being that I see in my
Speaker 1: mind's eye, and it blew me away. It was the
Speaker 1: first accurate depiction of what I had seen in my
Speaker 1: mind's eyem meditating that day attached to the photo. Later,
Speaker 1: I hear from my cousin who is a Marvel Comics
Speaker 1: nerd about this being called the Living Tribunal, who is
Speaker 1: also an accurate illustration of the being I seem were
Speaker 1: meditating that day photo attached as well. I wanted to
Speaker 1: share and get an occult reject's opinion on this being
Speaker 1: and see if anyone else has similar experiences. Thanks Headless,
Speaker 1: and I hope you enjoyed my story. What'd you think
Speaker 1: of that there?
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm gonna be totally honestly. I think
Speaker 2: the drug is why I pushed you to and especially
Speaker 2: a little fault there probably, I mean, especially if you're
Speaker 2: open to it and you're meditating, like that's not you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, like using the drugs and what
Speaker 2: you're trying to aim for right to question, Like you
Speaker 2: might have started doing some weird shit inside your head,
Speaker 2: not bad, you know, just you know, might have been
Speaker 2: deep in there. And sometimes they do wonder if like
Speaker 2: all right, like this guy said, like he kind of
Speaker 2: felt bad, like in front of goud or something right,
Speaker 2: like I do wonder like dismissed, you're dismissed, and I
Speaker 2: just wonder, like, you know, for me, I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: say it like for me, I had bigger, more greater
Speaker 2: experiences practicing magic. I think when I was a little
Speaker 2: bit more comfortable with my own soul who I was.
Speaker 2: So I think some times up until then, my mind
Speaker 2: will come up with ways to like set up roadblocks
Speaker 2: and maybe, like you know, that was just one of
Speaker 2: them they has to clear out to get a little
Speaker 2: bit further. It's almost like they're never ending story. You
Speaker 2: gotta work on something to get to the next statue,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Well, there are lots and lots of
Speaker 1: triple faced deities.
Speaker 2: I thought it as soon as you said that exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly what I was.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 1: Gold was kind of throwing me off, though. I think
Speaker 1: if there is that sort of gold light, kind of
Speaker 1: probably sun energy, I could see that as being a
Speaker 1: different emanation, possibly a new god. Maybe he made a
Speaker 1: new discovery.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But Hackita was often depicted at three three way intersections
Speaker 1: of roads. Four ways no good. If you're gonna meet
Speaker 1: Hackita at an intersection, it has to be at a
Speaker 1: three way intersection.
Speaker 2: She's a freak. She wants a three way.
Speaker 1: What I think it is. I think it's the idea
Speaker 1: of the energy is coming together and not being able
Speaker 1: to go anywhere except for up or down, because there
Speaker 1: would have to be that like fourth direction to make
Speaker 1: it like stable. And I think that's where you get
Speaker 1: the underworld type energy coming from. Hecatads the last way
Speaker 1: is the invisible way, or the way underground, or the
Speaker 1: way into Hades, because she's often depicted as being able
Speaker 1: to move between these two areas.
Speaker 2: Which is why I think all those guys with an
Speaker 2: h actually have something to do with it. Being like
Speaker 2: a messenger from both sides, right, I mean, look sends
Speaker 2: down Hercules, doesn't he? Right, that's his message?
Speaker 1: Well, and Hercules is the one that creates the milky
Speaker 1: Way supposedly, or like.
Speaker 2: The message of a kind of in a sense, like
Speaker 2: the way.
Speaker 1: So Hermes took into Harah's like all these hes. So
Speaker 1: Hercules in the handle's bedchamber and then let Hercules suckle
Speaker 1: while she was asleep. And so as she's sleeping, uh,
Speaker 1: he wakes her up and then squirts her milk across
Speaker 1: the sky. And that's what the milkill star.
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ. That's interesting someone even mentioned Hermes in the bottom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hermies goes between the underworld all the time. You
Speaker 1: get that age sort of connection. I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: there's a connection between Adolf and the underworld too, maybe
Speaker 1: double h you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And he's uh. I don't know if you've read the
Speaker 1: depiction of Carl Young's analysis of Adolf Hitler, because he
Speaker 1: actually went to go see Adolf Hitler.
Speaker 2: Oh, if you had a chance, would you talk to
Speaker 2: that guy?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So would I? Right? Well, like, oh, you're fucking great. Sorry,
Speaker 2: even Charles Manson, any of those sickos. If I could
Speaker 2: have like a control this environment and talk to these people,
Speaker 2: I would what the fuck inside you hid that made
Speaker 2: you do what you did?
Speaker 1: For?
Speaker 2: Like, what the fuck's wrong? Would you explain this to me?
Speaker 1: Well? I think that's the problem is. You know again
Speaker 1: we have like our our disgust or are you know,
Speaker 1: our base reactions kind of being programmed into us. But
Speaker 1: it's like, these are the people you need to learn from, right,
Speaker 1: for multiple reasons, but mainly because you don't want to
Speaker 1: end up like they did.
Speaker 2: So that's a good point. I have thought that before myself. Right,
Speaker 2: So you know, for I don't want to get what
Speaker 2: you got. That's good to know.
Speaker 1: For Carl Yo, he said that Adolph was a shaman
Speaker 1: who was channeling his nation's spirit, and he said that
Speaker 1: Adolph had become Odin. And one of the reasons is
Speaker 1: because of Ragnarok.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I wonder if he's going back
Speaker 2: to Lightning, and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all the symbols are there. And if you look
Speaker 1: up the painting Wild Hunt, it's supposed to have this
Speaker 1: was made before Adolf Hitler was alive. It's supposed to
Speaker 1: have Odin leading the Wild Hunt, and the character that's
Speaker 1: supposed to be Odin has Adolf Hitler's face, and this
Speaker 1: is before Adolf Hitler was ever around. And so it's like, wow,
Speaker 1: there is a connection, Like you know, you've got a
Speaker 1: patch on, but you know, I can kind of see
Speaker 1: Adolf Hitler having a patch on, Like that doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like out of the ordinary for me. Well, so it
Speaker 1: keeps this fucking speed in this. The goal for Odin
Speaker 1: was to bring warriors to Valhalla so they can fight
Speaker 1: at Ragnarok, and so everything Hitler was doing was to
Speaker 1: sort of exterminate all of these best warriors in the
Speaker 1: world so that they could go to the Hall of
Speaker 1: Valhalla and fight in Ragnarok, which is like, it's strange,
Speaker 1: but it kind of fits because you think about Odin's
Speaker 1: called like the mad God, you know, and he's got
Speaker 1: this madness that is like an obsession, just pure obsession.
Speaker 1: And you can see that too, how that sort of
Speaker 1: translates as well. So I think there's something to it.
Speaker 1: There could be an Odin Hitler crossover. And you think
Speaker 1: about it, like all he was about was the Germanic
Speaker 1: people and he was like possessed with that spirit.
Speaker 2: So I mean they got was definitely into the occult.
Speaker 2: So nothing.
Speaker 1: I never read anything from Carl Jung that I've been like, no,
Speaker 1: I one hundred percent disagree with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, he's a very interesting fell right, and
Speaker 2: I think so he probably knows what the fuck he's
Speaker 2: talking about exactly.
Speaker 1: I think he saw him at the Olympics. I think
Speaker 1: that's what it was.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, nice Carl Young was.
Speaker 1: Like in the thick of it. But you know, again,
Speaker 1: he's like a Tesla character. He doesn't really get the
Speaker 1: attention he deserves. And you either know about Carl Young
Speaker 1: or you have no idea about that whole world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that is true. That's a very good point.
Speaker 2: Oh do you want me to I do have it's
Speaker 2: that much. It's a short one. I do have a story.
Speaker 2: Somebody sent me. Somebody sent it to me and then
Speaker 2: followed me. I don't know what the hell that was about.
Speaker 2: I'll try to make sense of this. Uh. While I
Speaker 2: was on my way home from a party, I noticed
Speaker 2: a portal open. The area morphed forward and then backwards.
Speaker 2: Almost kind of sounds like maybe it's a ortal feel.
Speaker 2: She then pulled over. I then pulled over and called
Speaker 2: a friend to meet up in a nearby parking lot
Speaker 2: to talk about what just happened. While I was waiting,
Speaker 2: I saw a shadow man with a cowboy hat right
Speaker 2: in front of me. The shadow man with the hat
Speaker 2: wanted to see with the shadow man with the hat. Yeah,
Speaker 2: let you see him. Oh, the shadow man wanted this
Speaker 2: person to see them as well. He was flat and
Speaker 2: meat of a very dense, dark shadow. Since then, I
Speaker 2: have befriended the shadow man with the hat and many
Speaker 2: shadow people. I have a curse pact with the shadow
Speaker 2: Man with the hat. He's taught me about sleep paralysis.
Speaker 2: Had to manipulate and vampireze, vamporize fear. He has showed
Speaker 2: me how to wait shadow, showed me how shadow people
Speaker 2: have a light side, and how humans often project their
Speaker 2: shadow when the shadow people are around. Interesting.
Speaker 1: That is interesting. Yeah, there's this kind of tie in between,
Speaker 1: you know, these shadow people and the watchers, right, I think,
Speaker 1: because usually when you have a shadow person encounter, that's
Speaker 1: usually all they do is they watch, and they might
Speaker 1: you know, dart out of out of sight for a
Speaker 1: minute or whatever. But usually when you've got a hat
Speaker 1: man or a shadow person, you never get these like
Speaker 1: extended experiences. It's just sort of like it's the creepy
Speaker 1: thing that you don't want coming anywhere close to you.
Speaker 1: But that is kind of interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well the reason I even read it is because
Speaker 2: we have brought up a hat man before, haven't we,
Speaker 2: And so I did find that interesting, like somebody else
Speaker 2: with a hat again.
Speaker 1: Hat man is like this the greet Nightmare. Did you
Speaker 1: ever see that painting by mcgreet with the guy who's
Speaker 1: got the apple in front of his face and then
Speaker 1: he's got the bowler cap on. Yes, And people have
Speaker 1: always found it weird that he's got this app in
Speaker 1: front of his face, obscuring what his identity is. And
Speaker 1: that bowler cap is really really closely associated to whatever
Speaker 1: the hot man's wearing. So I think there's a crossover
Speaker 1: between like what mcgreet was seeing with this with this
Speaker 1: guy that that's got the apple in the face and
Speaker 1: and this hat man type entity, because it's very very
Speaker 1: common within like ghost sightings or whatever. Whenever you get
Speaker 1: a full body apparition, usually it's a shadow person, and
Speaker 1: it's usually the hat man who is like a shadow person.
Speaker 1: So at least that's what I've noticed in all the
Speaker 1: different paranormal podcasts of listen listen to and.
Speaker 2: Then and then you get the apple that if you
Speaker 2: cut it in half, it looks like a to ortal
Speaker 2: field back to back to the portal with the apple right, Well, if.
Speaker 1: You turn it on its side and you cut it.
Speaker 2: That way, Yeah, that is uh, that is interesting. I
Speaker 2: think there's a couple of things you get that in
Speaker 2: I have you even thought it's interesting to star an east?
Speaker 2: Doesn't that like make a six or eight pointed stuff?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I wonder if you cut an apple open, leave
Speaker 1: it on the table and then meditate, can you summon
Speaker 1: a hat man?
Speaker 2: Do you need a hat? Does he come with it?
Speaker 1: You got all the hat?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh but yeah, that was my one story to contribute.
Speaker 2: Sorry about that, But I mean it's interesting.
Speaker 1: I mean, well it's good. Yeah, it's good. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: love experiences where it's just like somehow you just step
Speaker 1: into the whole dream world, you know, and there's really
Speaker 1: no way that you can prove whether or not it's
Speaker 1: a dream. But at the same time, it could be
Speaker 1: a little bit of both. You know, why does this
Speaker 1: have to be inside of a body? This could be
Speaker 1: happening while she's actually projecting somewhere, you know. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: one of the things about the Foe encounters too, is
Speaker 1: like people often think that they're being beamed out of
Speaker 1: their their house straight through the walls, and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: how would that work unless you're actually being you know, abducted,
Speaker 1: your spirit body is being abducted and not your body body.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would actually make more sense if you think about.
Speaker 1: I think, right, spear body abductions make so much more sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd probably would be easy to get your spear
Speaker 2: through the roof of your house than your body without
Speaker 2: making a mess, breaking anything.
Speaker 1: Right, But you know, if you think about it, the
Speaker 1: spear body is basically a perfect facsimile of what you've
Speaker 1: got in your body, and you can detect any kind
Speaker 1: of abnormalities in the body that you would want to
Speaker 1: just by using that spear body as a guide. It's
Speaker 1: almost way more efficient if you if you understand those energies,
Speaker 1: because we're starting to learn now that there's there's kind
Speaker 1: of like a holographic nature to electron magnetic frequencies that
Speaker 1: come off of your body. You know, the aura that
Speaker 1: you can detect with you know, sensors and stuff. Well,
Speaker 1: if that's holographic, that means it's a perfect reflection of
Speaker 1: what you've got going on inside of your body, because
Speaker 1: they couldn't be separated without you know, ruining the resolution.
Speaker 1: Why not. I think a lot of this stuff, like
Speaker 1: astral projection is way more physical than people give it
Speaker 1: credit for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. And even sleep analysis,
Speaker 2: I think is a little bit more deeper than people
Speaker 2: would think, right.
Speaker 1: I think these are it's.
Speaker 2: A lot more deeper than we think.
Speaker 1: Right. These are just chemical reactions, and you know, we
Speaker 1: spend a third of our lives asleep. That's a whole
Speaker 1: other life going on that affects everything else in our lives.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is true. What thought of all life has spent?
Speaker 2: All that shit? That'd be for something.
Speaker 1: This is why I think that dreams can be classified
Speaker 1: as like the origin of symbolism, because everything you're doing
Speaker 1: in a dream is symbolic. Yes, you're not actually doing it,
Speaker 1: and it's still happening somehow. So that has to be
Speaker 1: the origin of symbolism for everything else, like language and
Speaker 1: figures and how we communicate using that kind of language
Speaker 1: all goes back to dreams. That's how people used to communicate.
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of the dream giants? No, this
Speaker 1: is great. So there are these pigmies that live in
Speaker 1: Indonesia and the way that they get guided to do
Speaker 1: certain things is by having dreams about these figures that
Speaker 1: would tell them what to do. And they were massive figures, right,
Speaker 1: and so it's like they were in front of this
Speaker 1: massive giant that is now giving them orders about where
Speaker 1: the tribe should go, where, what they should plant, where
Speaker 1: they should plant it. Oh wow, Well they wait for
Speaker 1: the dream giants every time they do anything, So before
Speaker 1: they make a move, somebody's got to have that dream
Speaker 1: and then they can, you know, start to you know,
Speaker 1: engage with their cycle of the year. The anthropologist that
Speaker 1: stayed with this pygmy tribe to document the dream giants
Speaker 1: started having dreams about the dream giants, and the dream
Speaker 1: giants communicated through the anthropologists to the pygmies about where
Speaker 1: they should go and what they should do. It's kind
Speaker 1: of proof of concept. It's like, these are like physical
Speaker 1: des these that show up in these pygmy's dreams to
Speaker 1: give them guidance.
Speaker 2: I've never heard of that before.
Speaker 1: There is so much strange stuff in anthropology that is
Speaker 1: like magical in nature. It's incredible stranger in the village
Speaker 1: of the sick. It's another one about magical healing practices.
Speaker 1: All these different tribes and stuff have magical ways to
Speaker 1: heal illnesses that actually have a better track record of
Speaker 1: healing illnesses than western medicine. That's still good. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck are we doing? Well, Doctors pretty much suck.
Speaker 1: I mean I can go on for days about how
Speaker 1: much doctors suck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, very very very few actually or decent care.
Speaker 1: We were talking about well, last episode, we were in
Speaker 1: a room with lady who was all about paralysis.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yeah, VICKI right, that's very interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's all linked together because in hospitals,
Speaker 1: people have reported that going into a forced coma will
Speaker 1: sometimes not put them unconscious, so it's like they're staring
Speaker 1: out of their eyes.
Speaker 2: For three hell right, everything everybody's saying to.
Speaker 1: Right, and there's no way they can communicate because of
Speaker 1: these drugs. So it's like one out of three people
Speaker 1: have that experience with induced comas, and hardly anybody believes
Speaker 1: them because once they get out, they sound like, you know,
Speaker 1: crazy people, because they're doing all sorts of stuff while
Speaker 1: they're awake under this trance. Sometimes people get caught in
Speaker 1: a loop of the worst memory of their life while
Speaker 1: they're in induced comas, just the same worst thing that
Speaker 1: ever happened for three weeks straight.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that is fuck.
Speaker 1: If I could describe what hell on earth Earth would be,
Speaker 1: it would be getting caught in an induced coma and
Speaker 1: not being able to actually be asleep.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's rough.
Speaker 1: Well what do you think that was good?
Speaker 2: I really liked the whole idea of the glyfting. I
Speaker 2: think we really should just keep going with it.
Speaker 1: Really, sure, we'll bring one each.
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I could do that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like sometimes sigil and symbol or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got all these commentors. Somebody's got to have
Speaker 1: a story. Email me at Headless Giant Podcast at gmail
Speaker 1: dot com.
Speaker 2: Definitely, and maybe.
Speaker 1: Next week we can have Raven Keifer on if he's
Speaker 1: up for it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know. I tried to
Speaker 2: get that other guy for that other show and I
Speaker 2: went to go book him for that time slip topic
Speaker 2: that I asked you about it. It was like, at the
Speaker 2: end of the month, I was like, so, do you
Speaker 2: even get him on this show? Like maybe I'll ask
Speaker 2: him to send this an email, but he said he
Speaker 2: had tons of weird stories, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I want to get you on.
Speaker 1: I got him, I forgot the date, but it's gonna
Speaker 1: be next month. It's gonna be in April.
Speaker 2: Oh oh you hit him up yourself. Okay, I wasn't sure.
Speaker 2: All right, awesome did I get all right? Perfect? Great? Awesome? Nice?
Speaker 1: All right, Well, this has been a Headless Giant Podcast
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