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<v Speaker 1>Hey thirty three, if you give out Pierce Talk Station,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not accusing him, your honor, but I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to let you know marijuana is legal in the state

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<v Speaker 1>of Ohio. So maybe that answers the question how he

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<v Speaker 1>came up with that one? No idea?

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<v Speaker 3>How about this? Some thing's never changed it?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? Yeah, starting the year, starting the year off on

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<v Speaker 1>a consistent note. Wow, all right, well anyhow, welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>in a happy new year. I cannot how many years

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<v Speaker 1>have we been at this year, Honor. It's just time

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<v Speaker 1>flies by so quickly. But it's been like a decade,

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, it does seem that way.

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<v Speaker 1>My dear friend, always makes the week more special to

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<v Speaker 1>have you on the show. So I can't thank you

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<v Speaker 1>enough for spending time with my listeners and me every

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday at this time. And of course I'm you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in a great position here to get the advance

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<v Speaker 1>copy of your column coming out tonight at midnight. Killing

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<v Speaker 1>the Constitution at Gitmo. We've talked about GITTMO quite a

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<v Speaker 1>few times and the trampling on constitutional rights and the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that torturing people is of course inappropriate, and all

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<v Speaker 1>the whys and warforce. But as I understand, the administration

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<v Speaker 1>released eleven of the GITMO detainees after twenty years of incarceration.

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<v Speaker 1>They got like fifteen left, including college Sheik Muhammad. Were

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<v Speaker 1>these the ones that are still there? Were they the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that were subject to that plea deal they pulled

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<v Speaker 1>the plug on last minute?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, and the plea deal. This is interesting, Brian.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll appreciate it as an attorney, and people generallyamiliar with

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<v Speaker 3>the system will Normally, these plea deals are instigated by

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<v Speaker 3>the defendants because they want to reduce their exposure to

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<v Speaker 3>jail time or in this case, they want to avoid

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<v Speaker 3>the death penalty. This plea deal was instigated by the prosecutors.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the second full team of prosecutor. Prosecutors rotate

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<v Speaker 3>in and out. That's the problem with the military at tribunals.

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<v Speaker 3>Military assignments change every three or four years. There was

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<v Speaker 3>no human being in the College Sheik Muhammad case today

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<v Speaker 3>who was in it when it was started except for

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of the defense lawyers and College Sheik Muhammad

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<v Speaker 3>himself were on Judge number five and complete change of

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<v Speaker 3>prosecutorial team number two. The judges rotate through every four years.

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<v Speaker 3>The prosecutors rotate in and out. The prosecutorial team is huge.

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<v Speaker 3>Full disclosure. I was consulted by the or. I consulted

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<v Speaker 3>the first prosecutorial team because the general, the chief prosecutor,

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<v Speaker 3>Mark Martin's, was and is a friend of mine, and

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<v Speaker 3>we spent the day discussing their civil liberties issues. I

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<v Speaker 3>was in a room with ten other people. None of

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<v Speaker 3>those people is in the case today. Okay, so you've

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<v Speaker 3>got a completely different set of prosecutors. They look at

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<v Speaker 3>the evidence of torture and say, A, we can't defend

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<v Speaker 3>this or we will lose our licenses to practice law. B.

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<v Speaker 3>Therefore we're not going to use any evidence obtained from

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<v Speaker 3>the torture. Therefore, C we're going to initiate settlement negotiations.

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<v Speaker 3>They do it. The judge says, fine. The judges Judge

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<v Speaker 3>number five in order for him to try the case.

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<v Speaker 3>He has to read hang on to your chair, forty

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<v Speaker 3>thousand pages of documents and transcripts accumulated by Judges one

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<v Speaker 3>through four. Buddy has an interest in settling this. They

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<v Speaker 3>agreed away settlement which takes the death penalty off the table,

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<v Speaker 3>which takes Florence, Colorado, America Supermax two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 3>which requires a guilty plea under Oath standard and federal court,

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<v Speaker 3>but at which the judge, the prosecutors, and lawyers for

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<v Speaker 3>the victims can interrogate College Sheik Muhammad, and if he

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't answer truthfully, he can be prosecuted for perjury. That

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<v Speaker 3>plea deal is signed off on by the judge, the

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<v Speaker 3>prosecutors of the defense, attorneys, the defendant himself, and the

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<v Speaker 3>General in the Pentagon in charge of all of these prosecutions,

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<v Speaker 3>herself a former chief of the Military Court of Appeals.

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<v Speaker 3>When Lloyd Austin, the Separatary of Defense, finds out about this,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm not going to go along with it. I

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<v Speaker 3>want them exposed to the death penalty. He then orders

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<v Speaker 3>the military prosecutors who instigated the settlement, who crafted the

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<v Speaker 3>settlement to who got the judge to accept it, to

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<v Speaker 3>ask the judge to change his mind. Judge said, sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a contract. It's a deal. It's reduced to writing.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody signed it. That was appealed to the Military Court

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<v Speaker 3>of Appeals last week. The Military Court of Appeals upheld

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<v Speaker 3>the plea agreement. Next week that plea will take place.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's where we are now. It involves two other people.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, they get a much nicer place

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<v Speaker 3>to live at Gittmo. Nobody would want to live at Gitmo,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's a hell of a lot nicer than two

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and fifty feet below the surface of the earth

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<v Speaker 3>in Florence, Colorado.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess that has to be viewed. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>by I think a rational reasonable person as a good outcome,

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<v Speaker 1>because well, in.

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<v Speaker 3>A good outcome because of the image done to the

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<v Speaker 3>judicial system or the creation of this Devil's island, and

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<v Speaker 3>by the torture. If College Sheik Muhammad had not been tortured,

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<v Speaker 3>and if the prosecutors didn't have this problem of torture

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<v Speaker 3>about which I've written extensively, and you and I have

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<v Speaker 3>spoken extensively, and if this were just a simple prosecution

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<v Speaker 3>in the Southern District of New York. He would either

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<v Speaker 3>have been executed by now or in Florence, Colorado for

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of us life, or acquitted and sent home.

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<v Speaker 3>He wouldn't have been on trial for twenty years and

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<v Speaker 3>on Judge number five.

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<v Speaker 1>And that actually is amazing. And I presume that the

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<v Speaker 1>new batch of prosecutors that come in for the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>time or however many also would have had to go

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<v Speaker 1>through forty thousand pages of transcripts and evidence and information, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>in order for them to come to the scripts.

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<v Speaker 3>That's correct. You mentioned the eleven people that Biden let

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<v Speaker 3>go under cover of darkness. I don't blame him for

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<v Speaker 3>doing undercover darkness. They were there for twenty years. They

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<v Speaker 3>were all tortured. None of them was charged with a

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<v Speaker 3>single offense.

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<v Speaker 1>And see that's what I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Incarcerated, confined, tortured in jail for twenty years, not charged

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<v Speaker 3>with a crime, not prosecuted. This is America. It shouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>be happening to anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you wholeheartedly on that. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those there but for the grace of God

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<v Speaker 1>go I I mean, we locked up Japanese citizens in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States and internment camps back of World War Two.

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<v Speaker 1>I still can't believe that happened, but it's a historical fact.

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<v Speaker 1>So you really do have to take this very seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of how you feel about any of the guys

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<v Speaker 1>that got let go. But in terms of let's just

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<v Speaker 1>focus real quickly on colleague shik Muhammad. Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>any concept of what evidence would remain that would be

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<v Speaker 1>able to be presented to the jury once you pull

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<v Speaker 1>out the torture testimony, the stuff that would be inadmissible

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<v Speaker 1>in any court of law in the United States. Is

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<v Speaker 1>there still efficient evidence of criminality, such as you could

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<v Speaker 1>get proof beyond a reasonable doubt that the guy was

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<v Speaker 1>guilty of something worthy of incarceration or possibly even the

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<v Speaker 1>death penalty.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's hard to say. Because so many people

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<v Speaker 3>have been tortured in this case, including the witnesses that

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<v Speaker 3>the government has cut deals with preparing to testify against him.

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<v Speaker 3>There must be some evidence. The problem is, here's what

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<v Speaker 3>the prosecutors told the judge when they said, not only

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<v Speaker 3>can we not defend torture, but we're concerned about the

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<v Speaker 3>reaction around the world when the world learns what the

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<v Speaker 3>American government did to him, because once we introduce any

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<v Speaker 3>evidence involving or arguably derived from torture, he can then

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<v Speaker 3>put his psychiatrists on the stand, who will testify to

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<v Speaker 3>what the government did to them. They tortured him one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and eighty three times that we know of. Some

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<v Speaker 3>of the records and most of the videotapes were destroyed

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<v Speaker 3>by the CIA, so it is difficult to say. This

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<v Speaker 3>is why you'd have to read the forty thousand pages

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<v Speaker 3>to decide which evidence was derived from torture and which

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<v Speaker 3>evidence was not. Well, and I know that that decision

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<v Speaker 3>has even been made yet by any of the four judges,

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<v Speaker 3>and it certainly hasn't been made by this new judge, who,

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<v Speaker 3>as far as I know, hasn't read the forty thousand

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<v Speaker 3>pages yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, And since College shig Muhammad as well as the

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<v Speaker 1>others are represented by counsel, I feel fairly confident by

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<v Speaker 1>them being willing to enter into this plea deal that

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<v Speaker 1>they do believe there is sufficient presentable evidence that their

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<v Speaker 1>client could get convicted, so this is a better deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's why they made the recommendation, but we're all

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<v Speaker 1>left to speculate at this point. But in so far

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<v Speaker 1>as the other guys that were released under cover of darkness,

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<v Speaker 1>no charges ever brought against them, even after being incarcerated

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years. I would imagine they didn't have sufficient evidence

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<v Speaker 1>of criminality in those cases.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, you know, I've been harshly critical of George W. Bush,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm unrelenting the whole concept of let's go to Cuba.

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<v Speaker 3>The federal laws don't apply, the Constitution doesn't amply, and

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<v Speaker 3>best of all, this pesky federal judges can interfere with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Five out of five cases the Supreme Court said no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>and no right. Federal laws apply, the Constitution applies, and

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<v Speaker 3>federal courts have jurisdiction. Oh, let's create our own system.

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<v Speaker 3>Military men will vote in favor of execution immediately, and

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<v Speaker 3>they won't be offended by torture. Well, and the one

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<v Speaker 3>jury trial, one jury trial that occurred there, the military

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<v Speaker 3>men on the jury were so repulsed by the torture

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<v Speaker 3>they voted unanimously to convict and then voted eight to

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<v Speaker 3>one for clemency. Well, well, that's the mess that Bushed

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<v Speaker 3>and company created. God forbid any of this should become

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<v Speaker 3>a precedent. Seven hundred and eighty prisoners. At its height

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<v Speaker 3>five hundred million dollars a year to operate. There's now

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen prisoners remaining and the thousand guards.

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<v Speaker 1>My word, Judge Ennapolitana spelling it out like it is

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<v Speaker 1>got it's do we have.

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<v Speaker 3>To start the new year with this?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Why not? You know, the topics haven't exactly been enlightening

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<v Speaker 1>or fun or uplifting and so far as the conversations

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<v Speaker 1>have been having during the week anyhow, so can you

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<v Speaker 1>continue with me? But you got to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>People need to be aware of this. It's extremely important

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm glad you have the bone, the wherewithal in

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<v Speaker 1>It's important, all right, New year, new judging freedom. Who's

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<v Speaker 3>Kyle LANs Alone, Aaron Monte, Phil Geraldi, the Secrets Sir,

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<v Speaker 3>the CIA agent who told George W. Bush personally in

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<v Speaker 3>the Oval office that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons

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<v Speaker 3>of mass instruction and Bush threw him out. And Professor

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<v Speaker 3>Jeffrey Sachs, a leading light of peace whose speech at

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<v Speaker 3>the Oxford Union in Great Britain shortly before Christmas was

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<v Speaker 3>just posted on truth social buy Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump. Well, at least we got Trump to post

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<v Speaker 1>things like that, and we've got you to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>every Wednesday. Looking forward to next Wednesday. Already you're on

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<v Speaker 1>our best of health and thanks again.

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<v Speaker 3>Make sure Joe takes his bubble bath.

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<v Speaker 1>I will definitely do that. Thank you, Joe, both of them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's National bubble bath Day. Who know, we'll all get

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<v Speaker 1>in the top. Take care man, we'll talk next Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Best of health. It's eight forty six at fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>kre see the talk station. Jimmy care. Fireplace is stove?

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<v Speaker 1>Have it checked out? Your fireplace needs to be checked

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<v Speaker 1>out once a year is the wise thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, if you have a gas one, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the rules are, but you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get the carbon output the good the wood fireplaces are.

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<v Speaker 1>But whether you've got a free standing stove, self feeding

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<v Speaker 1>wood waste pellet stove, a regular wood burning fireplace, have

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<v Speaker 1>the experts the Chimney care fireplace and stove start with

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<v Speaker 1>the video inspection. If it has anything wrong with it,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be able to find it. And like water damage,

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<v Speaker 1>you might not even know about leaks and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>If it needs to be swept certified, chimney sweeps will

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<v Speaker 1>take care of that cap and damper replacement. They'll do.

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<v Speaker 1>They look at your chimney, does it need tuck pointing.

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<v Speaker 1>If it does, they do that as well. Showroom four

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen Wards Corner Road chock full of beautiful things like

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<v Speaker 1>fireplace inserts. I got mine from them after the inspection

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<v Speaker 1>told me my old one was a fire hazard. So

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<v Speaker 1>out with the old, ind with the new. And I

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<v Speaker 1>love that insert remote control. It's awesome for all things related.

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<v Speaker 1>It's chimney care, fireplace and stove again. Four thirteen Wards

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<v Speaker 1>Corner Road. Tom Bryan said, Hi, when you call for

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