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<v Speaker 1>Conscious recall versus hypnotic regression in an abduction case by

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<v Speaker 1>Charles Lear. It has been determined by many researchers in

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<v Speaker 1>the scientific community that during hypnosis, false memories are very

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<v Speaker 1>likely to be generated, and distinguishing them from real memories

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<v Speaker 1>is difficult, if not impossible, without some means of confirmation.

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<v Speaker 1>This is, for instance, the conclusion of a report for

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<v Speaker 1>the U. S Department of Justice by Martin t Ornett

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<v Speaker 1>Hall titled Hypnotically Refreshed Testimony, Enhanced Memory, or Tampering with Evidence,

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<v Speaker 1>published January nineteen eighty five in Issues and Practices in

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<v Speaker 1>Criminal Justice. With the above in mind, it is helpful

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<v Speaker 1>for researchers attempting to evaluate a case when a distinction

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<v Speaker 1>can be made between elements of the report derived from

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<v Speaker 1>conscious recall and elements derived through the use of hypnosis.

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<v Speaker 1>A case for this can be easily done is that

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<v Speaker 1>of Judy Kendall of Zamora, California, thanks to a newspaper

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<v Speaker 1>article announcing her intention to undergo hypnosis to recover about

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<v Speaker 1>four hours of missing time, and another article on a

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<v Speaker 1>different paper after the procedure, which was apparently well attended.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the article by Spencer c S headlined hypnotist

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<v Speaker 1>will help woman find four hours lost during trip, published

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<v Speaker 1>in the January twenty sixth, nineteen seventy seven Davis, California,

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<v Speaker 1>Yolo County Shopping News. Kendall was scheduled to be hypnotized

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<v Speaker 1>that Saturday to find four hours that experts think may

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<v Speaker 1>have been stolen from her by space creatures who abducted

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<v Speaker 1>her in an unidentified flying object. The term front loading

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<v Speaker 1>comes to mind, but the circumstances that led Kendall to

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<v Speaker 1>contact Center for UFO Studies director j Allen Heinik looking

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<v Speaker 1>for answers are described in detail. According to c S,

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<v Speaker 1>Kendall drove her two sisters hummed A, Zamora one pitch

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<v Speaker 1>black night in nineteen seventy after leaving their grandmother's house

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<v Speaker 1>in Bodega Bay at five thirty p m. Although the

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<v Speaker 1>trip should have taken about three hours, they arrived in

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<v Speaker 1>Zamoras seven hours later at twelve thirty a m. The

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<v Speaker 1>youngest sister, twenty two, was reportedly asleep, as Judy twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>and her older sister twenty five, all ages are at

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<v Speaker 1>the time of the article, found themselves driving much longer

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<v Speaker 1>than expected as they looked for the turn off for

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<v Speaker 1>Zamora after crossing the Cash Creek Bridge on Interstate five

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<v Speaker 1>O five. Sis says they agreed that they should be

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<v Speaker 1>getting there, and then quotes Judy as saying shortly after that,

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<v Speaker 1>we were back in front of the flashing yellow light

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<v Speaker 1>in front of the bridge again. According to Sias, when

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<v Speaker 1>they got home, their parents were angry and thought their

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<v Speaker 1>story was beloney. Kendall said her father called her grandmother

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<v Speaker 1>and confirmed they left at five thirty, and then checked

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<v Speaker 1>a map to see if they had driven in a

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<v Speaker 1>circle and concluded that wasn't a plausible explanation. Kendall added

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<v Speaker 1>that if they had driven for seven hours straight, they

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<v Speaker 1>would have run out of gas with no explanation and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone safe at home. The mystery is said to have

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<v Speaker 1>been forgotten until nineteen seventy five, when Judy and her

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<v Speaker 1>older sister went to sea escaped to which mountain featuring

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<v Speaker 1>a Winnebago taking off into the sky, and remembered the

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<v Speaker 1>ride at the same time. Ceas says, curiously, whenever Judy

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<v Speaker 1>talks about her experience, she refers to setting down in

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<v Speaker 1>front of the flashing light again, as if they were

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<v Speaker 1>floating in the air. According to CEUs, Kendall saw a

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<v Speaker 1>UFO that summer that she didn't report, but it reminded

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<v Speaker 1>her of her experience. She talked with some friends and

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<v Speaker 1>one of them suggested that she write to Heinech. Although

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<v Speaker 1>Heinig didn't reply himself, his fellow researcher, Alvin H. Lawson,

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<v Speaker 1>an English professor at California State University, contacted her and

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<v Speaker 1>expressed an interest in her case. Lawson is reported to

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<v Speaker 1>have contact did researchers in Los Angeles who checked out

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<v Speaker 1>Kendall's credibility, and she is said to have agreed to

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<v Speaker 1>be hypnotized that coming Saturday to see whether she remembers

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<v Speaker 1>being aboard a spacecraft. Her hypnosuscession is described in the

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<v Speaker 1>article headlined woman in Trance tells a Space Ordeal in

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<v Speaker 1>the January thirty first, nineteen seventy seven Davis, California Enterprise.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the reporter, Kendall underwent hypnosis shivering on her

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<v Speaker 1>warm living room couch in front of a room full

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<v Speaker 1>of calm UFO researchers and incredulous friends. The article is

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<v Speaker 1>written as if the reporter was present, so this seems

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<v Speaker 1>to have been quite the public spectacle. In this account,

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<v Speaker 1>the events are said to have taken place on a Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>November nineteen seventy one or nineteen seventy two. The rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the brief account matches the one in the Shopping News.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the reporter, Kendall realized for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>during the hypnosis that she was kidnapped by a space

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<v Speaker 1>She is described as shielding her face to avoid seeing

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<v Speaker 1>a space creature she described as having a bulbous head

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<v Speaker 1>with saucer sized, red, pupiled, gelatinous eyes. She is reported

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<v Speaker 1>to have said it at holes for ears, an almost

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<v Speaker 1>translucent white face with a mask covering the lower part,

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<v Speaker 1>red veins on its neck that were not like the

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<v Speaker 1>purple ones. We have a human like body and hands

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<v Speaker 1>like ours with five fingers. Kendall reportedly said she was

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<v Speaker 1>told by the creature in English, it's okay, it's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>in a voice that sounded like it was muffled and

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<v Speaker 1>coming through a distant megaphone. She is described saying, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not okay in a small, tight voice, and then

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<v Speaker 1>grabbing her right side and leaning over as if in pain.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the reporter, the hypnotist doctor D. W. McCall

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<v Speaker 1>asked her what was happening, and she replied that she

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<v Speaker 1>felt like she got poked, because said to have taken

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<v Speaker 1>her through her experience repeatedly, and the story is told

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<v Speaker 1>that she relaxed after being poked and was lying on

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<v Speaker 1>a cold table with a sheet over her, and in disgust,

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<v Speaker 1>announced that she was being catheterized and having urine taken

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<v Speaker 1>from her. She reportedly saw three creatures at the foot

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<v Speaker 1>of the table and couldn't describe their faces, and also

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<v Speaker 1>saw a human woman with blue eyes and straight black hair,

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<v Speaker 1>who handed the creature a tube of colorless fluid that

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<v Speaker 1>you can't see through. Kendall is said to have been

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<v Speaker 1>mystified as to how the woman knew her name as

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<v Speaker 1>she tried to reassure her. Kendall was reported to have

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<v Speaker 1>described the creatures looking at her feet throughout the experience,

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<v Speaker 1>and have said that they probed her ear with something

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<v Speaker 1>cold and hard, and that one creature put a heavy

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<v Speaker 1>machine over her eyes with what sounded like a quiet

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<v Speaker 1>motor whirring inside. Macaus said to have asked is it

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<v Speaker 1>a brain reading machine, to which Kendall replied, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the reporter, she described being in a round

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<v Speaker 1>room circled with windows and seeing two bucket seats on

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<v Speaker 1>one side, with a console with a lever like a

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<v Speaker 1>car gear shift in the middle. She is said to

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<v Speaker 1>have pointed to her left and described seeing a table

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<v Speaker 1>with what looked like doctor's probes on it, along with

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<v Speaker 1>a black box that had speaker holes in it. Kendall

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<v Speaker 1>is quoted talking about her sister, who, according to the reporter,

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<v Speaker 1>wished to remain anonymous and wanted nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 1>the hypnosis. I can hear calling my name. She is crying.

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<v Speaker 1>She is really upset. She sounds far away. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>she is all right. The next thing Kendall reportedly recalled

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<v Speaker 1>was finding herself behind the wheel of her car, without

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<v Speaker 1>knowing how she got there. Nicholls said to have ran

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<v Speaker 1>her through the experience again, whereupon she remembered being carried

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<v Speaker 1>by three creatures dressed in gray who threw her into

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<v Speaker 1>the car. She is quoted as saying they must have

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<v Speaker 1>carried me because I couldn't walk. According to the reporter,

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<v Speaker 1>Kendall's utter sisters seemed to suddenly materialize, and when they

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<v Speaker 1>were in the car, it was pitch black. Kendall in

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<v Speaker 1>a disbelieving voice is quoted as saying, we just landed

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<v Speaker 1>on the road in my car, and with certain amazement,

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<v Speaker 1>adding in my car. Lawson is reported to have said that,

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<v Speaker 1>in the reporter's words, Judy's story could be as much

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<v Speaker 1>an idiosyncrasy in human make up as an abduction by

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<v Speaker 1>space creatures. The other researchers are described as being in

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<v Speaker 1>many ways as mysterious as the story itself, and not

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<v Speaker 1>saying for certain how they felt about Judy's story. McCall

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<v Speaker 1>is reported to have said that he had hypnotized about

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<v Speaker 1>six others who had similar stories. Charles Lear is the

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<v Speaker 1>author of The Flying Saucer Investigators, available in its second

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<v Speaker 1>edition at Amazon dot com.