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Speaker 1: The Bench.

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Speaker 2: We have to Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.

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Speaker 3: Okay, here we go where the.

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Speaker 2: Plays get broken down and science gets denied The Bench

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Hour two of Off the Bench Live from the Raising

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in O t B. Hour number

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two of the Show. Tuesday Show is brought to you

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by Commutnet Steal again. Glad to have them back on

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the squad. We had to kick T Bob to Chicago

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to get them back, but hey, we got to do

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what we got to do to have community to steal

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back on the squad. Saints are making moves all over

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the place. Also, this is from Kat Arrell. Shout out

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el Shugret. The Nuanced Saints have restructured Eric McCoy's contract,

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adding a voyage year, so his eight point seven million

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dollar base salary plus his five hundred thousand dollars roster

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bonus was converted into a signing bonus, which turns like

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Flynn get sometimes save them seven point three million dollars

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against the twenty twenty six salary cap. What I do

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you got? You got one of those one time, and

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I never did so I was better the other day.

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Ever got like thirteen years ago yeah, so still really

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good money, you know. Wow, like and you got it

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all like that next time, I don't.

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Speaker 3: Hope for success to your loved ones and friends.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean you pretty much said at them this

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morning for the U High Golf Tournament.

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Speaker 5: To be fair, you did, that's.

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Speaker 4: Where my kids go. So true.

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Speaker 5: You can't even deny that, like you really you said that.

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Speaker 4: He kind of did.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Michael Jordan said it. I can yourself.

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Speaker 3: I mean basically same guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've always said it. I've always said it. Uh

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So that's a good move. And McCoy is such a

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good player when he's healthy. You just got to keep

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him healthy. And if you do with the move that

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you made to bring in Edwards, you love what you've

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done up front. Also, the Saints have signed tight end

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No Offense to a two year deal. No fan got

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two year deal, correct, Yeah, two year deal for no

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offense and the tight end position for you had to

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get an upgrade because you have some free agents like

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Falshom Morow, Taysom Hill free agents. Juwan Johnson certainly not

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a complete tight end. He is a receiver that is

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playing tight end and look in some ways it gives you,

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you know, some benefit and some pros and cons to

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the but you needed like a real tight end somebody's

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played his entire life.

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Speaker 6: Did somebody Certainly the Saints have had their eye on

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for a while. I don't know if he goes back

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with Kellim Moore, whatever it is, but he was rumored

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to Did he visit New Orleans before it was something

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at the trade deadline? I believe this year that the

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Saints were close to getting him, and maybe it was

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at some point, but he was rumored to be a

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Saint this past season at some point.

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Speaker 3: So it's somebody that's been on their radar.

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Speaker 7: And like you said, he visited last July during training camp.

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Speaker 6: Okay, sorry before yeah, okay, there was not the trade

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deadline before the actual season. So certainly it's a I'm

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not going to sit here and say it like the

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greatest tight end to ever played the position, but certainly

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a person that fits the need.

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Speaker 3: What would you call him, Jake? A Y tight end?

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Speaker 4: He could be either one. I think he could be

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a Y R N F to be honest with you,

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where Juwan's only going to be an F. If he's

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a Y, you're licking your chops a yackle No, it's

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definitely not.

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Speaker 3: That nobody knows what he's talking about.

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Speaker 4: A yackle would be somebody like Will Disley, who's a

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free agent. He was with the Chargers. Like he's a yackle.

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He was just called Johnson.

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Speaker 3: John Johnson's receiving tight end that sometimes chooses not to receive.

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Speaker 4: True that that part's face.

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Speaker 8: He runs the route in fairness.

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Speaker 6: He does fair Sometimes he chooses to receive the ball

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but then sometimes he decides not to, Like he's like, yep,

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I think my chest needs a ball to hit.

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Speaker 3: It real quick.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes he decides to miss time is jump a little

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bit at an alligator arm it. But sometimes he also

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catches over three people's heads and scores a touchdown.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you need it. Look, you needed to add some

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tight ends. Now, I don't know what the plant like.

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False Tomorrow is a free agent. We keep saying that

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last year he made four million dollars the expected market

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value for Foster's two point six this this time around.

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So even if you added falsterim Morrow to your roster,

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like that would give you three tight end options and

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he's only gonna cost you two point six million dollars.

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If you want to sign a one year deal. I mean, well,

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you just got seven years of service time.

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Speaker 6: So let me tell you there's some really good tight

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ends in this draft as well that are going to

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be fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh rounders.

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Speaker 3: We saw it at at the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Like there was Cozil from Houston who just caught another

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ball against LSU in the Texas Bowl. He's every bit,

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He's six six and some change. With some real receiving,

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he's a really good player. You might get him to

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your point, Matt in the fifth, sixth, seventh rounds exactly.

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Speaker 3: You could get that.

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Speaker 6: It's just that there's an evolution of tight end happening

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in the NFL. And there's a lot of guys that

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were probably role players in college. Didn't get a lot

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of I didn't have a lot of yards, didn't wasn't

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that sexy player, didn't have games like Cozell had with

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at Houston versus LSU.

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Speaker 4: But like init a year at ball State where he

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had ninety six catches, You're gonna.

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Speaker 6: Get some guys in college and this is I'm just

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I'm just making it like like a just a nice

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even number here. I'm not basing this on any one

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person You're gonna have some guys that get drafted in

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the sixth seventh round that are gonna make immediate impacts

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in a big way. Offensively, You're gonna have guys that

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had thirty two catches and three hundred and ten yards

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in college and then they're gonna go to someone like

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the Rams and score seven touchdowns next year. Like You're

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good because there's good players of that position and they're

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being utilized in a way that I haven't really seen before. Like,

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of course, the tight end's been out there, like you

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saw it with the Patriots with broken You've seen these

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great tight ends play. I'm not saying that, but the

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way they're being used, like thirteen personnel as being like

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one of the top personnel groups for the best at

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one of the best offenses in the National Football League

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is unheard of. But that's what's being done because they

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create such bad They create matchup problems when you have

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guys that can block but also run routes, and that's

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what get it. It used to be like Jake likes

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to put like the the why and the F tag on,

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like you used to have like the blocker or the

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pass catching but now you're starting to get like these

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guys that are pass catchers but can also stick their

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nose in there, right, and like that's why you see

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the best offenses running thirteen personnel. And so they're they're

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dressing out four or five tight ends every game because

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not only are they really good there, they can play

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a lot of different things on special teams as well.

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Ward they're ward like, they they're versatile. So you're you

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can catch another tight end in this draft late Yep,

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that's gonna make a really good impact.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 4: I think this tight end classes. It might not have

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the brock Bowers in it, but that's okay. From the

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third to the sixth round, it's got some starters in it.

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To your point, And because if you're the second tight

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end in twelve person l in the NFL today, you're

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a starter, like you can play. If you're a third

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tight end, you're you're for something for sure.

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Speaker 6: You could get your name announced before the game, run

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out the tunnel by yourself as a starter.

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Speaker 9: Think about a think about a guy like Jared Camp

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from Oklahoma, but you're in a four to five to

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two with the combine. People don't talk about him because

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he played the linebacker for three years at Oklahoma. You

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think that guy's not gonna stick his nose in there

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and block for you. And he had over five hundred

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receiving yards his loan years at tight end. Like that

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guy's not getting drafted before were like round five.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, just Titans and you got Oscar delt from Georgia.

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I know he's got the fracture in his foot that

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he's like, I don't care. I want to go run

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as a combine even players.

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Speaker 6: Like that, and he hadn't had the success certainly like

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a Sean mcfay or Shanahan or now with the guns. Yeah,

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like they hadn't had that success, so you can't put

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them in the same category. But I would put Kellen

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Moore like offensive minded, Yeah, like I would put him

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in that realm of like he could get to that point.

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Speaker 3: I just said, realm, real like country.

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Speaker 1: I like.

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Speaker 6: And I believe that he's going to follow those trends,

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that he wants to implement more and more. He just

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has to have the personnel to do it, and they

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got to be healthy, of course.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do that.

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Speaker 4: That is something they can get their third tight end

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if they don't bring a veteran player in like Foston

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the later rounds of this draft, because it's deep when

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All right, let's go to mike linebacker though, right there

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in the middle of your defense.

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Speaker 3: Right there in the middle.

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Speaker 4: To Mario Davis two years with Jets, talked about it earlier,

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twenty plus million dollars. So you draft Danny Stutsman out

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of Oklahoma in the fourth round. Last year, you got

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Jalen Ford out of Texas, who you got in the

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fifth round a couple of years ago. All right, Pete

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Warner obviously is a will linebacker. You can need somebody

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the middle of your defense playing mike. Is that Danny Stutsman?

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Have we seen enough from him to get the opportunity,

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free agency. Do you go get a veteran linebacker. Maybe

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it's a two year deal, maybe it's a one year deal.

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the ball rookie linebacker replacing Tomorrio Davis. It's a lot

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of pressure. Let's sign this veteran player for this year

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and then maybe next year we dive back into the draft.

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Do you go say, hey, Levante David, you know us,

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we know you. You've been in the league fourteen years.

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We've played against you in the division every year. Do

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you say, hey, Bobby Wagner, you've played fourteen years. I

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need you for one. Hey, Kaate Nellis, you've played here before.

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Kate Nellis is somebody who's going to cost you probably

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eight and a half million dollars for a one year deal,

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maybe nine. Devin Bush is probably going to cost you

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a little bit more. You have a decision, mate, Just

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don't bring in Kenneth Murray. Don't don't do that. Don't

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bring in Kenneth Murray. That's not what you need right now.

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Matt Milano from Buffalo had a lot of injuries, so

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that's always a concern. But on a one year, four

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and a half million dollar deal, Matt Milano from Buffalo

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can be in the middle of your defense. There's a

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ton of options that you can have a one year

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deal to try to replace the Mario Davis for one

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year year, maybe two. I just think if you go

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out and you get somebody in the third round off

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theotball linebacker to replace somebody that potentially could be a

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Hall of Famer, I'm not sure that's the best case

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scenario for you. But I love the idea of bringing

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in a Bobby Wagner Levonte David. I like the Bobby

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kayen Nell. It's one of those guys that's free right

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now that you can bring in for a year or two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean, certainly it's like Stutsman's chance to step up,

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step in, prove that he can be the guy, right

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there to kind of guide and lead and help form that.

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I really like the Bobby Wagner move, Like I personally

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like I was a teammate when he was a rookie.

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Speaker 3: Like he's been in the league a long time. Oh god,

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you're old. He was a rookie in twenty twelve.

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Speaker 4: And see I don't uh huh, he's fourteen years in.

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Speaker 6: Matthew Well, yeah, that heaby math And oh I do

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remember he used to have a backpack and it was

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a ninja turtle backpack. Well, Bob made him go up

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in my book. Yeah it was awesome. No, seriously, I

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love it. He had an inja turtle backpack you would

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wear all the meetings. I had liked them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the shell on its alarms shell. Yeah did, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. That's really my only scouting report on Bobby Wagner.

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Speaker 4: He got played fourteen years in the league. Yep, and

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your scouting reporters, he had a ninja turtle backpack as

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a rookie. You're not gonna get that anywhere else, folks.

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Speaker 3: Right here on off the bench.

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Speaker 4: Oh god, I am a little worried that. Brandon Staley,

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who's the Saint Stevens the coordinator, did coach Kenneth Murray

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when he was the head coach of the Chargers. And look,

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I'm not just trying to be here be throwing shade

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at Kenneth Murray. He's just he's not the kind of

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linebacker you're gonna want. He's he's a sidelined sideline guy

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in a three four defense man.

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Speaker 3: So who is it?

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Speaker 4: Who Kenneth Murray? So he played for Dallas last year

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but got drafted by the Chargers in the first round

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when Staley was the head coach there. But when you

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play right in the middle of a three four defense,

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you're gonna have guards that have a free path to

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you immediately, because that's just the way when you play

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an odd front, that's the way that it's going to happen.

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He's not the guy I won't taken on a guard

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right there in the middle of your defense. So, like again,

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there's places for him. I don't think New Orleans is

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that place. That's why I'd rather have Bobby Wagner, Levonte,

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David Kayden Ellis. I'll take Devin Bush over that. I

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take Matt Milano over that. Devin White's out there. Devin

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White just had one hundred and forty five tackles for

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the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: Leo's I don't know what he's really talking about.

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Speaker 4: I don't think Devin in a in a three four

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is the best case for either one either, though.

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Speaker 9: Leo played a lot of football for the Chiefs. He's

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a solid linebacker.

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Speaker 8: That's if you want to go cheap cheap.

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Speaker 4: Like if you bargain Ben Hunting, that's gonna cost you

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about four and a half million.

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Speaker 8: Dollars one year deal in channel. Let me what twenty six?

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So like a veteran but still young.

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Speaker 3: They got it.

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Speaker 4: They have to add somebody. Danny Stutsman. I think he say, good,

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change his pace player, bring him in corps for war

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Daddy that that's great. I don't know that he can

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be your every down linebacker. So bring in a veteran player,

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fare him with Danny Stutsman who can give you some

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snaps on the defensive side, not just special teams, and

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try to replace some of the leadership you lose with

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to Mario Davis as.

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Speaker 6: Well, how do you feel about the Let's talk about

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the draft a little bit, like, how do you feel

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about replacing via the draft? Because I know there's a

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couple of linebackers that you like, certainly the one from

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Ohio State.

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Speaker 4: And then if you take Sunny Styles at eight, I'll

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go turn in the car to the commissioner myself.

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Speaker 6: I'll be there and what about I'll do it. How

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about a second round pick Jazah Jaco Rodriguez, who will

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be the defensive rookie of the year next year.

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Speaker 4: It would You're probably right, I think we agree there.

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It would have to be certain guys because like I

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just said, like to take one to replace Damrio Davis,

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it's going to take a strong mentality, and you might

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be like, what do you mean, It's just football. I'm

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just telling you. And you know this too. You been

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in enough locker rooms. When you get drafted to replace

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a legend, that brings in an added pressure not everybody

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can handle. I was drafted to replace Lorenzo O'Neil, right,

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different player, the offense was changing, but in fans minds

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like I was brought in to replace Lorenzo O'Neil, who

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might one day wear a gold jacket.

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Speaker 6: So like I know, I get it. I was brought

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in and replaced Brett Favre, so I get it, like

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I get the pain guys. So there's there's things that

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come with that, and you've got to be able to

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handle that. So of the guys I think can handle

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that sunny styles without question. I'm telling you, Like I

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walked away.

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Speaker 5: So can Jacob Martinez Rodriguez.

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Speaker 4: Oh he called it Martinez. I was like, wait a minute,

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but I think he could about say. I thinks I

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think C J. Allen from Georgia and I think Jacob Bardriguez,

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all three could handle that pressure that I'm talking about

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after having conversations with him at the combine.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree with you, but I think you're putting

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a lot on this pressure situation to replace something.

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Speaker 4: I've just I've been through it.

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 6: No one would have picked you to be able to

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handle it, but you did. I don't know, I'm just

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mess a captain, but like, yeah, I mean, especially this sage,

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these guys are going to go in there and just

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want they just want to play football.

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Speaker 4: Not saying it's the only thing, but I'm telling you

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it is something that is talked about, thought about. Again,

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I've gone through this. I remember the feelings of people

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talking about replacing the Legend, and they're always going to

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compare you to that guy. There's people in this draft

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that can handle that. I don't think everybody can handle that.

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Speaker 6: I would agree with you, but that Legend decided to

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sign with an irrelevant organization. He didn't like retire, he

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didn't like lay his jersey down on the fifty, you

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know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: He decided to go sign. Was like, there's gonna be pressure.

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Speaker 4: He sounds a Jets and I was kind of like, well,

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if he sounds a Jets. Is it really that hard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not a lot of pressure. I mean that

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got left you. I mean, I'm not saying left.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to say that the guy decided the

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opportunity was better to play for the Jets.

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Speaker 5: Look, I get money, but that's just.

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Speaker 3: It's state income tax is going to be off the charts.

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Speaker 9: Well, Jake mentioned, you know, he knows the situation. That's

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why I wouldn't assigned to with them exactly. And he

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knows the situation like he's been with the Jets. Did

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you not remember you played for the Jets.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean yeah. The facility's nice. They got a

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nice cafeteria. Domlets were really good.

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Speaker 4: I was there.

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Speaker 9: Maybe that's you know what I'm bad if tomorrow is honest,

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there's like guys, it was. It was the Omelet and

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they did like you could.

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Speaker 3: Get it like a smoothie shake anytime you wanted to.

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It was nice.

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Speaker 8: I got it, and I'm actually kind of actually kind

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of agree with the decision now for.

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Speaker 4: What you just put in the chat. That's our coal.

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Speaker 3: For them.

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Speaker 5: No, I'm right.

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Speaker 6: One thing I do remember about being in New Jersey

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when I was with the Jets, I was there for

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a while, is okay?

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Speaker 3: If you in a Jersey correct me if I'm wrong.

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You cannot pump your own gas?

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Speaker 7: Right, So I drove from Philadelphia to New York and

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my uncle was like, hey can I because they get

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offended if you start pumping your own gas.

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Speaker 3: You just can't do it. Like it's actually I think

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it's a law. You can't pump your own.

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Speaker 6: Full service station there's gas attendance because like the gas

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station will close, and you got to get your gas

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before the gas station closes, Like how fast Awkwards?

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Speaker 3: Is that right?

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Speaker 6: And then that's what Damario Davis. He chose to go

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to a place where you can't get gas like after eight.

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Speaker 5: Pmre in Jersey? Did you live in hobo?

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Speaker 3: That's an indictment?

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Speaker 8: It is that like that you don't want to pump

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your own gas like silver spoon in hand idea by

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the Saints.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, move on.

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Speaker 8: You know, you get older, sometimes you get cranky, Like

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maybe that's.

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Speaker 6: It there is like if you're in the chata, let

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me know, is there any other state in the country

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that doesn't let you pump your own nookie?

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Speaker 8: Says a organ?

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Speaker 6: Or well that checked that that tracks organ is soft objectively.

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California is surprise shocking. They let you pump your own

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guests there.

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Speaker 4: Anyways, Uh, the Saints very well could go linebacker at eight.

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I don't know any style is gonna make it, make

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it to them. If he doesn't, we'll talk about maybe

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the guy that we would select for the New Orleans

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Saints when we come back here on O TV. Off

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dot Com is the website that had them back on

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the squad. We were talking a little bit before we

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went to break about the Saints and what they could

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do in the draft, and they lose to Mario Davis.

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So maybe the linebacker position could be something that they

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hit on in the first, the second, the third round.

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The first round depends on if Sonny Styles is a

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player that is still available. If he's not, well, where

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did the New Orleans Saints go? And I think they go.

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Speaker 3: Across the street.

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Speaker 4: To the LSU football facility, and so like Monsieur de

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Laine corner, Stop shaking your head. You just lost to

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Lante Taylor. He lost post the debo last year. You

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need a corner. He's the best corner in the draft.

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You're picking at eight. The Chiefs desperately need a corner now.

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They lost two to the Rams and lost the safety

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to the Bengals. They need dvs. They're picking right behind you.

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They could be aggressive and moving up to get ahead

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of you for the same player I've seen marsh Monster fourth,

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I think is the highest I've seen him in some

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mock drafts. So Monster a laying somebody that everybody was

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impressed with the combine. I was impressed with him. I

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never had the chance to interview him until the combine

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blew me away. Great football, like you, very well spoken,

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hell of a player. If the Saints selecd him with

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the eighth overall pick, how was feeling you were shaking

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your head?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't like it.

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Speaker 4: Why I like him?

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Speaker 3: Okay? Well great?

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Speaker 6: I mean it's the same thing as overpaying and free

475
00:23:32,039 --> 00:23:35,799
agency for a corner. You're overpaying in your draft capital

476
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,400
for a corner like yeah, you gotta. You have to

477
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,720
find you have to have good corners to be successful

478
00:23:41,759 --> 00:23:42,920
in the NFL as a defense.

479
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 4: I got it. But you can't overpay for you think

480
00:23:47,599 --> 00:23:49,599
selecting the top corner in the draft at eight.

481
00:23:49,559 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 6: Is overpaying with the amount of needs you knit you

482
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,000
have and you have a first year or you have

483
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,440
a franchise quarterback that's in her a second year, you

484
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have a second year your offensive minded head coach.

485
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:01,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.

486
00:24:03,279 --> 00:24:04,799
Speaker 6: Now if you can, if you can pick him like

487
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,200
later in the first round, you think it could be later, No,

488
00:24:08,279 --> 00:24:10,799
he's not. He's gonna not. So Yeah, I don't. I

489
00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:13,160
don't pass. I personally do not like to pick.

490
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:15,519
Speaker 4: Uh tite.

491
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Speaker 9: I think this is the obvious pick at this at

492
00:24:19,039 --> 00:24:21,799
this point. I didn't think that going into yesterday. But

493
00:24:22,039 --> 00:24:25,000
I mean the moves you made, it's kind of your

494
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,119
biggest need as far as depth in the draft. Like

495
00:24:29,519 --> 00:24:32,160
you need a receiver, tons of great receivers, you need

496
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,039
an ed rusher, tons of great ed rushers. Corner is

497
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,799
kind of your biggest need. Look, I don't think kool

498
00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:40,720
Aid mcintree is a one at all. Quincy Riley maybe

499
00:24:40,759 --> 00:24:43,920
you can have him as a cornerback two. You don't

500
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,799
have a top corner on this team right now.

501
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 8: It's kind of your biggest spot, Miss Villa Reale.

502
00:24:50,839 --> 00:24:52,039
Speaker 5: I would be for it.

503
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Speaker 7: I understand what you're saying, Matt, but with I agree

504
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,119
with Taylor, like with the moves that you made yesterday,

505
00:25:00,039 --> 00:25:02,079
I think that you can get what you need left

506
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:03,480
in the later rounds.

507
00:25:05,279 --> 00:25:08,599
Speaker 6: There's two types of capital out there. There's actual capital,

508
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,039
there's money, and there's draft capital. And you can't overspend

509
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,039
on either one of those things for a corner. I

510
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,599
just show me where it's worked out. Show me where

511
00:25:17,759 --> 00:25:21,559
a team has won a championship with doing that. Maybe

512
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,720
there's an example out there, but you're gonna have to search.

513
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,599
You're gonna have to look and be like, oh, yeah,

514
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:30,400
that's right. I think like, yeah, you can draft the

515
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,200
top ten cornerback and have a really good corner. But

516
00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:38,079
tell me when that has equaled a championship.

517
00:25:38,519 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 4: I think when Jalen Rams got traded for that was

518
00:25:40,519 --> 00:25:42,880
kind of a missing piece. But look, I get your point.

519
00:25:43,079 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 9: It almost worked in Jacksonville, like they had the game one,

520
00:25:47,079 --> 00:25:48,599
Portals just couldn't throw the ball that day.

521
00:25:49,519 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 4: I do hear what you're saying, and I'm agreeing with you,

522
00:25:51,759 --> 00:25:55,160
and I think he's an incredible player. I think he's

523
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,400
not knock on. I think he's good enough to be

524
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,359
able to change the rules a bit on what you're

525
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,279
talking about. He graded out as the highest corner in

526
00:26:02,319 --> 00:26:05,440
college football last year. There was teams that said, we're

527
00:26:05,519 --> 00:26:07,519
not even looking your way when we game plan, and

528
00:26:07,599 --> 00:26:10,039
you know, like you've played those guys, Lane Kippens said,

529
00:26:10,039 --> 00:26:11,880
it's like, dude, we're not throwing to you. Stop asking.

530
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 3: I don't even need to warm up.

531
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 4: So for other corners in this draft, and this isn't

532
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,680
because he's an LSU guy. This is like actual analytics

533
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,440
and data saying, like McCoy from Tennessee is a good player.

534
00:26:23,839 --> 00:26:26,359
He's hurt, so we got to see that Hood from

535
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,680
Tennessee is a good player. See Safe from South Carol

536
00:26:28,839 --> 00:26:31,799
is a good player. Chris Johnson from San Diego State

537
00:26:31,839 --> 00:26:34,000
is a good player. I don't even remotely think about

538
00:26:34,039 --> 00:26:38,160
those guys early. I think Monsur is a different beast

539
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,279
than those guys. So if you selected him at eight,

540
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,400
it would not be a doomsday from me. I think

541
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,319
he's a really good player that would be deserving of

542
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,319
being a top eight pick. My first choice would be

543
00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:51,160
Sunny Styles because I think the versatility he gives you.

544
00:26:51,519 --> 00:26:53,599
I just don't know that he's going to be there.

545
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,839
If he is, again, I'll go turn in the card

546
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,559
for Mickey. I'll be set up right next to the stage,

547
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,720
just handed to me, and I would be very happy.

548
00:27:01,839 --> 00:27:03,359
You see glee on my face if I got to

549
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,480
turn that in for the Saints.

550
00:27:04,599 --> 00:27:09,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, like I would prefer if I have my Saints

551
00:27:09,799 --> 00:27:12,319
had on Yeah, like I would prefer them to go

552
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,160
and find a corner and the like it's one day

553
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,400
of free agency, like the new league you hadn't even

554
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,440
technically opened yet.

555
00:27:18,759 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 3: Go find secure guys.

556
00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 6: Don't overpay for them. Find you some good guys. Take

557
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,960
you take your corner in the draft, but don't overpay

558
00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:28,960
for him. Now, do I have a replacement for you?

559
00:27:29,319 --> 00:27:31,400
Like I understand what y'all are saying, Like he's a

560
00:27:31,519 --> 00:27:34,279
deserved top ten pick, He's going to be a great

561
00:27:34,319 --> 00:27:38,599
corner in the NFL, But like I don't and and

562
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,240
and y'all can make the argument for it, I don't

563
00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:43,359
have and I can and I can disagree with you.

564
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,519
I don't have a replacement for him because I still

565
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,039
like this is the draft. This is a perfect draft

566
00:27:48,079 --> 00:27:50,119
if they don't have the opportunity for sunny style, like,

567
00:27:50,279 --> 00:27:53,240
this is the opportunity to trade back and get more

568
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:54,359
get more picks.

569
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna keep right. I'm gonna keep saying it.

570
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 6: I don't really know if anybody else is saying it,

571
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,880
maybe just because it's like against what me has always done.

572
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,480
But as Mickey limis ever done this well in the

573
00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:06,799
first day of free agency either, So maybe he's a

574
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,440
new guy. Maybe he can change.

575
00:28:09,559 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 7: Oh you kind of feeling like Kellen has a lot

576
00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:15,880
more say than Yeah, we might be giving Ellen did

577
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:16,160
some of this.

578
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I think.

579
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 7: Kellen needs a little bit of this. But I also

580
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,480
just I don't know what's going on in their front office.

581
00:28:21,559 --> 00:28:24,039
It's just it hasn't been that way until he got here.

582
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,319
Speaker 4: Right as far as like the corners that maybe you

583
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,440
could afford in free agency, Cam Taylor Britt from Cincinnati,

584
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,519
he's going to cost you about nine per Greg Newsom

585
00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:35,759
from Jacksonville is going to cost you about nine. Marshaun Lattimore,

586
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,880
it's gonna be available. He's out there.

587
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:38,519
Speaker 3: Uh.

588
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,799
Speaker 4: Dreike Willing from Seattle, he's a really good players about

589
00:28:41,799 --> 00:28:45,279
eight point one is projected, he's gonna cost you per year.

590
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,200
After that, it gets a little dicey. Then you start

591
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,839
getting into Trayvon Diggs territory. He's gonna cost you about

592
00:28:50,839 --> 00:28:52,680
seven and a half per year.

593
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,079
Speaker 8: So it's not some would be over nine.

594
00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:58,519
Speaker 4: It's not the best free agent market for corners.

595
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,519
Speaker 8: I just I think there's a better line backers than

596
00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:01,279
there are corners.

597
00:29:01,799 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 4: Certainly like stop gap options for a year. So bring

598
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,640
back Marshall a lot of more.

599
00:29:09,079 --> 00:29:13,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.

600
00:29:14,119 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 4: I think I think he's gonna be the pick. Now

601
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,000
if you select one of the Tennessee guys at eight,

602
00:29:21,839 --> 00:29:27,000
Tennessee who volunteers, Okay, we got two corners, Sam, if

603
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,039
you select them at eight, then me and Mickey gotta.

604
00:29:28,839 --> 00:29:30,799
Speaker 3: Have a combo. We got we got problems, we got

605
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:31,400
throw hands.

606
00:29:31,599 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 4: But I think because of the player that we're talking

607
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,039
about and the need.

608
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 5: That you have there, I think Delane is good enough

609
00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:37,559
to be the exception.

610
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 4: To the r Yeah, me too. What do you think

611
00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:42,759
if you're if you don't want to go corner, if

612
00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:45,640
you're at eight, well you signed the running back trade?

613
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:46,160
Yeah right?

614
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 3: So e t N. Well, you know Mickey.

615
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 8: Trading back actually like if you if you let me pick,

616
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:51,440
that's what I would do.

617
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 6: But he's not so but he has also never done

618
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,839
this well in free agency. Like so we got to say,

619
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:57,960
maybe he's doing things.

620
00:29:57,839 --> 00:29:59,359
Speaker 4: That are you gonna but who you're gonna trade with?

621
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,720
Because the team that needs corner as bad as anybody's

622
00:30:03,759 --> 00:30:08,240
right behind you. Yeah, so where they're like, you know,

623
00:30:08,359 --> 00:30:09,880
like who they're gonna get, they're gonna.

624
00:30:09,839 --> 00:30:11,839
Speaker 8: Get with what prospect to jump there is.

625
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,359
Speaker 4: They're gonna try to get to six or seven. They're

626
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,079
not gonna try to get with you, like because they

627
00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:19,359
think you are going to be the guy that selects

628
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,799
the corner. So you've got to find a team that

629
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,599
is willing to give up some real assets.

630
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 6: Now, there's a lot of teams with real assets. I

631
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,519
was about saying, the Dallas Cowboys, the Raiders, now the Jets.

632
00:30:30,759 --> 00:30:33,319
Speaker 4: The Raiders are probably gonna go offensive line at fourteen

633
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,440
after selecting Windows at one, even though they just signed Linderbaum.

634
00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:39,680
They need a lot of help on the offensive line still,

635
00:30:39,799 --> 00:30:43,319
and a guard at fourteen. You can make that justified.

636
00:30:44,599 --> 00:30:48,799
Now the Cowboys is where it gets interesting, because they

637
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,559
like monsor de Laine, they got they need to help.

638
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:54,680
They can move up.

639
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 8: They're a team that could jump up for Caleb Downs too.

640
00:30:57,079 --> 00:31:01,839
Speaker 4: If they got the they got the draft treasure chance

641
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:02,559
to be able to do so.

642
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 6: But again, guys, if any teams looking for a new

643
00:31:07,359 --> 00:31:10,799
available we're talking about Mickey Loomis trading back in a draft.

644
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,039
Speaker 3: He's gonna do it. He's gonna do it. I believe

645
00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:18,599
it's plus four fifty.

646
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 5: I've just been burned too much from him.

647
00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:23,799
Speaker 3: Well, he's starting to heal those burn winds.

648
00:31:24,359 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 8: As long as he didn't take a line, I'm good.

649
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 3: Guys.

650
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 6: He had the best draft last year in the NFL.

651
00:31:31,119 --> 00:31:34,079
It wasn't good draft, he got an award. More.

652
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 4: If you're the New Orleans Saints and Dallas calls you

653
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,559
and says, hey, for number eight, we'll give you twelve,

654
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,359
a third and a sixth rounder. Yeah, because that's about

655
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,960
what it would take. Yeah, you'd move up.

656
00:31:47,119 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 9: I would because would because you might not get delayed.

657
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,079
But you can still get a top flight receiver if

658
00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:53,559
that's what you want. You could still get an edge

659
00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:56,119
Druscher if you wanted that and you got more draft pick.

660
00:31:56,319 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 6: If like if these if if their conversations or anything

661
00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:03,240
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662
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663
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,240
like you said you could. You could get a great

664
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,960
receiver and Edgdresser in the third round, you got a

665
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,000
linebacker on this Like, there's so many things you can

666
00:32:18,039 --> 00:32:22,039
do with those extra picks. You could even trade them.

667
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,720
Could be a vote, could be a vote.

668
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Speaker 6: We've talked a lot about, certainly the Saints moves yesterday.

713
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,159
Speaker 4: Yep, golf clap to Mickey, good job, good job, good job,

714
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:51,239
keep it up.

715
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:52,159
Speaker 5: I'm not doing that yet.

716
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,159
Speaker 3: What you done for lately? What have you done for

717
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:54,599
me lately?

718
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 4: Let's standing ovation, It's just say we see you.

719
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 5: I'll give a like a hesitant like.

720
00:36:01,599 --> 00:36:04,079
Speaker 6: Let's just say Mickey Loomis has been the best GM

721
00:36:04,119 --> 00:36:05,599
in the NFL since I've been on the show.

722
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 4: Do you believe that because he had the best draft

723
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:11,800
class and he's doing.

724
00:36:12,039 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 6: Because you can tell the best draft class after one year?

725
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:20,480
Obviously the hardware says you can. Matt we're talking about

726
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,119
about the Saints. But let's let's stay within their division.

727
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,079
Let's check in one. Can we check in on the

728
00:36:26,199 --> 00:36:27,840
Falcons how they're doing this off season?

729
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Speaker 8: This is your quarterback room?

730
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh that's good?

731
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 3: Perfect?

732
00:36:34,199 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: Yeah?

733
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:35,039
Speaker 4: Wrong?

734
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 7: That for those listening not watching, it is a picture

735
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,360
of Michael Pinnox in a wheelchair. Looks like he just

736
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:47,000
up and then and then Tua getting carded on a

737
00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:48,360
gurney off the field.

738
00:36:48,519 --> 00:36:48,599
Speaker 3: Ye.

739
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,559
Speaker 5: That's the Falcons quarterback room for two thousand and Also,

740
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,039
isn't Kirk Cousins still there?

741
00:36:54,159 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 7: Now?

742
00:36:56,159 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 5: Missed that one?

743
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 8: You left?

744
00:36:57,519 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 3: These pretty cool at days? It is pretty cool. So

745
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,320
the Falcons, Yes, they signed to turn the ball over

746
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,599
and to.

747
00:37:05,639 --> 00:37:06,639
Speaker 5: Win the NFC South.

748
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,199
Speaker 4: They also got Eastern Stick.

749
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,599
Speaker 5: Oh, a cousin of Western Branch.

750
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, former Chargers legend.

751
00:37:18,039 --> 00:37:18,199
Speaker 3: Here.

752
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Speaker 6: So I'm looking at this move and I'm thinking about

753
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,159
I'm thinking about a comp for this move for the Falcons.

754
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 3: So two, it goes he's signing with the Falcons.

755
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,519
Speaker 6: And like I think those was it like an easy

756
00:37:29,639 --> 00:37:31,559
move for them just because he's a lefty, Like I

757
00:37:31,639 --> 00:37:33,440
don't know, like, but they see it seemed to be

758
00:37:33,559 --> 00:37:38,719
his destination before this whole week even started, right, Uh,

759
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,639
that was the rumor that I was at least reading,

760
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,360
and I was trying to find a comp like, is

761
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,079
this a good move? Like who's actually going to be

762
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:46,920
the starterst to going in there to be the starter?

763
00:37:47,079 --> 00:37:48,880
Is Michael Pennock's going to be healthy? He's had like

764
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,960
thirty five knee injuries in his career, his one year career.

765
00:37:55,079 --> 00:37:56,320
And I was trying to think of a comp and

766
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,480
I started looking at the Colts. If you had to

767
00:37:59,519 --> 00:38:02,760
say who his career to this point, Who's is better

768
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,840
to his career or Daniel Jones before he went to

769
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:06,719
the Colts.

770
00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:10,639
Speaker 3: Has had a better career. And I don't even think

771
00:38:10,639 --> 00:38:11,159
it's close.

772
00:38:12,519 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 6: So could this be the same situation Daniel Jones came

773
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,800
in last year and they're like, well, Anthony Richardson is here,

774
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,159
He's going to be the starter, Daniel Jones is going

775
00:38:20,199 --> 00:38:22,840
to like Who's Like? I feel like it's a very

776
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,320
comparable situation in Atlanta than it was with the Colts.

777
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,440
Now was that a one off?

778
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:29,559
Speaker 3: I have no idea.

779
00:38:30,039 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 6: We've seen it happen with a lot of quarterbacks. We've

780
00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:35,559
seen it happen with Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, We've seen

781
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:39,039
it happen with all these different quarterbacks reviving their career

782
00:38:39,199 --> 00:38:39,760
somewhere else.

783
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 3: Right now, Tua has.

784
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,039
Speaker 6: Didn't look great a couple of times in the quarter

785
00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:49,039
of public opinion because he kind of threw his teammates

786
00:38:49,079 --> 00:38:51,440
under the bus. Sometimes there's a way to do that.

787
00:38:51,639 --> 00:38:53,320
He didn't do it the right way. I don't think

788
00:38:53,519 --> 00:38:55,320
like there is a way to do what he did

789
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,960
as a leader. Certainly coaches do it. Quarterbacks can do

790
00:38:59,079 --> 00:39:01,760
it in the public eye throw throw people under the bus,

791
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,920
But there's a you gotta do it, like, it has

792
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:04,679
to be the right tone.

793
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,599
Speaker 7: Yeah, you also yourself when you're like one of the

794
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,760
problems and you're doing that, You you can't just blame

795
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:13,679
it on everybody else.

796
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't.

797
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 6: And you never know who empowered him to do that himself?

798
00:39:19,639 --> 00:39:21,519
Was it was it the head coach? Like did somebody

799
00:39:21,559 --> 00:39:23,400
empower him to do like? I don't know, because the

800
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,079
head coach didn't like it very much. I remember him

801
00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:29,840
coming out and being like, uh the heill, Well somebody did,

802
00:39:30,639 --> 00:39:33,599
But anyway, is it gonna work out? But let's just

803
00:39:33,679 --> 00:39:36,320
say the deal for the Falcon has had these streaks

804
00:39:36,519 --> 00:39:38,239
of greatness at Miami good.

805
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's been times he's been good in the intermediate stuff.

806
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,119
He's very accurate. Yeah, and you like if I am

807
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,760
somebody like Tua Tongue Baiala and I just got released

808
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,559
and the Dolphins are paying me so I can go

809
00:39:49,639 --> 00:39:52,119
sign a one million dollar contract, which is what he

810
00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:54,760
got from Atlanta. And I look up and I've got

811
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,920
Bijeon Bromson. I've got Coyle Pits on the franchise. Tag

812
00:39:59,519 --> 00:40:03,320
Johan and signed there yesterday. Zakia signed back there yesterday.

813
00:40:03,559 --> 00:40:08,119
I've got Drake London. I'm looking at him. Austin Hooper

814
00:40:08,199 --> 00:40:13,880
just signed. He was really good. You got weapons, they

815
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,719
got a lot of talent. So I'd be like fired up.

816
00:40:18,559 --> 00:40:20,639
I would do everything I possibly could to be at

817
00:40:20,679 --> 00:40:23,360
my very best to try to prove everybody wrong. This

818
00:40:23,559 --> 00:40:26,039
is his last opportunity to get a chance to like this.

819
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,239
And you got dudes around you. If you don't work

820
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,679
out in Atlanta, that's on you. You also got Kevin Stefanski, who,

821
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,480
regardless of what you think of him, he's been an

822
00:40:36,559 --> 00:40:37,800
NFL Coach of the Year twice.

823
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,559
Speaker 6: You really don't have any excuses. Yeah, and I get it,

824
00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:46,000
he's had these bad streaks. Let's can't what what percentage

825
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:51,320
of that can you blame on the organization, Probably a

826
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,119
decent amount of it, but for a decent of like

827
00:40:55,199 --> 00:40:58,000
a big period of time when two is, if he's conscious,

828
00:40:58,559 --> 00:40:59,400
he's been pretty good.

829
00:41:03,199 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 8: What I mean, it did go downhill after that to

830
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:09,679
your point, like.

831
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,559
Speaker 3: It's such a turd. It's true he got knocked out a.

832
00:41:14,559 --> 00:41:16,079
Speaker 5: Lot, but he got knocked out a lot.

833
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 3: It's a fair point.

834
00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 6: And then after he got knocked out a lot, he

835
00:41:20,159 --> 00:41:23,679
wasn't that good, rightfully, so as brain wasn't.

836
00:41:23,519 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 5: Working him to throw his teammates under the bus.

837
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 9: About intermediate stuff like the Falcons last year invested a

838
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,639
lot into their own line and you could say, well,

839
00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:36,079
got sacked a lot. Penix held into the ball a

840
00:41:36,159 --> 00:41:38,119
lot too, like if if we can get the ball

841
00:41:38,159 --> 00:41:40,400
out of his hands quick like their line was actually

842
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:41,679
pretty good, La.

843
00:41:43,039 --> 00:41:48,159
Speaker 6: I was pretty high. Michael Pennix too, you will, I

844
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,840
mean you were hoping. I was, Yeah, you had card game.

845
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,400
You know you were vested hard out here in the

846
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:54,480
streets at the card game.

847
00:41:55,119 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 4: Uh, let's do this. Let's take a break on time

848
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,360
ish and uh when we come back, that's ad ish,

849
00:42:01,679 --> 00:42:03,840
when we come for us. When we come back, we'll

850
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,280
talk about the panthers, because the panthers and bucks if

851
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,000
we're standing in South. They also made some moves that

852
00:42:08,039 --> 00:42:09,599
I like, and we'll talk about them when we jump

853
00:42:09,639 --> 00:42:10,440
back here on o TV.

854
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,559
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Community steel co dot com. Well, tam Bay Buccaneers aren't

883
00:44:07,039 --> 00:44:10,199
gonna have Mike Evans. He's on their team anymore. He's

884
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,159
three year deal with the San Francisco forty nine ers.

885
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,360
He loves base cities. He loves base cities. I did

886
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,519
not think he was gonna get a three years, but

887
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,199
shout out to him. He's been to Green Bay. He

888
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:26,039
said there's a not a building tall enough for him,

889
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,960
So he's going to San Francisco building. I mean, he

890
00:44:30,039 --> 00:44:30,840
just likes big cities.

891
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:32,079
Speaker 3: I think you know.

892
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 4: There's David Busters though.

893
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:35,519
Speaker 3: That's a good move for.

894
00:44:37,559 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 4: It's a great Dave and Busters. Yeah, when they're in

895
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:40,599
the draft last year.

896
00:44:41,199 --> 00:44:41,559
Speaker 3: AnyWho.

897
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 4: Uh so he's going to the forty nine ers. I

898
00:44:43,519 --> 00:44:44,960
love that move for them. It gives them actually a

899
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,519
receiver they can trust and not Brandon Ayuk or you

900
00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:50,039
know Ricky Piersaw who has been good when he hadn't

901
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,800
been heard but he's shot. Yeah, it has got in

902
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,239
the street. The thing that that's wild about it, that

903
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:58,840
actually didn't keep him out for as long as some

904
00:44:58,920 --> 00:44:59,679
of the ankles.

905
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 8: Right, he splayed more games than Brandon.

906
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 6: I you that, like Mike Evans not like read about

907
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,480
the electromagnetic fields around their practice.

908
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:09,159
Speaker 3: Issues.

909
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,119
Speaker 9: Somebody was like Evans around the electromagnetic field is not

910
00:45:12,199 --> 00:45:14,480
great because he was hurt all last year.

911
00:45:14,599 --> 00:45:16,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not good. I did like to move though.

912
00:45:17,679 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 4: Speaking of the Tampa Bay Bucks, the other Bay in

913
00:45:20,639 --> 00:45:23,400
the game, weell, I like that great, great pickup for them.

914
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,960
We talked about him Tampa Bay. Oh yeah, he talked

915
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,559
about what he was for the Steelers at the end

916
00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:30,239
of last year. He was there off, he was their

917
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,440
player MVP voted their m v P of their team. Yeah,

918
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,840
like he was incredible. I wanted him to be the same.

919
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 9: He's a good change of bays for Bucky Irvy last

920
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,920
year for Shad why it fits to him, which just

921
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,119
kind of a poor man's Bucky Irvy. You didn't really

922
00:45:44,159 --> 00:45:46,960
get anything different. Kenneth Walker is a good change of

923
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,800
base said. He's a little bit different than Bucky Irvy.

924
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 6: He's a lot different. Like he can he can catch

925
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,840
them all down the field. You split him out a

926
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:57,920
receiver and he can run. I saw him. Oh, there

927
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,519
was that one play towards the end. I don't know

928
00:45:59,519 --> 00:46:00,960
if it was like the game to get in the

929
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,079
playoffs or right, it was a game that mattered. He

930
00:46:03,199 --> 00:46:06,920
made an unbelievable yeah catch he was to get him

931
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:07,480
in the playoffs.

932
00:46:07,559 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too.

933
00:46:09,079 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 4: Helloy player Jaylen Phillips goes to the Carolina Panthers edge

934
00:46:14,559 --> 00:46:18,480
rusher one hundred and twenty million dollars, big.

935
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 3: Moves, can you pick it? Goes to the Panthers as well.

936
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,159
Speaker 4: He did say a half million dollars. Memphis wasn't very

937
00:46:24,159 --> 00:46:26,559
excited about that one. All right, We'll talk more New

938
00:46:26,639 --> 00:46:29,159
Orleans Saints where I got Nick Underhill New Orleans, not football.

939
00:46:29,159 --> 00:46:32,599
When we come back, our number three OTV off the bench,