Speaker 1: Hey guys, Hey guys, and welcome to episode forty one
Speaker 1: of A Strange Thing podcast.
Speaker 2: I'm Mike. I'm not You're making all kinds of squeaky
Speaker 2: noises in weirdness. You're acting weird.
Speaker 3: It's hard because I'm trying to bring the energy.
Speaker 2: Oh, bring the energy. Well, we should probably tell our
Speaker 2: listeners that can watch us. We are actually recording across
Speaker 2: the miles.
Speaker 3: Across the miles.
Speaker 2: You're like, what, one hundred and fifty miles away, one
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty miles away.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: And we are recording remotely because if we don't, we're
Speaker 2: never going to get any more podcast done. Because life
Speaker 2: is crazy and we have a lot of responsibilities and
Speaker 2: we're trying to make the best of it. So we
Speaker 2: are recording this episode separately, but together.
Speaker 3: I'm at home and my dad is in his home town.
Speaker 2: I'm in my hometown with my dad.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Three generations in this joint, three generations within one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty miles of each other.
Speaker 1: Four because I got my you know, it's like literally
Speaker 1: twelve feet that way and twelve feet the other way.
Speaker 2: This is true. What are we going to talk about?
Speaker 1: Austin UFOs UFOs the Ultimate Strange.
Speaker 2: Thing, otherwise known as Unidentified flying objects. Yes, you have.
Speaker 2: I I have seen things that were for me at UFO.
Speaker 2: They weren't like creepy flying saucers and discs. But but yeah,
Speaker 2: I've seen things in the air that I didn't know
Speaker 2: what it was. You.
Speaker 1: Of course, I think it's funny when people say I
Speaker 1: don't believe in UFOs. It's like, who do you work
Speaker 1: for the Air Force? Like you know everything you see
Speaker 1: flying around?
Speaker 2: Well, they're just saying that they don't believe in little
Speaker 2: green men from outer space.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they need to say aliens, not UFOs. There's some
Speaker 1: kind of airplane specialists.
Speaker 2: Well they might not even be from outer space. They
Speaker 2: could be from interdimensional portals or something like that.
Speaker 1: It's fine, and it's an object and you can't identify it,
Speaker 1: that's what it is.
Speaker 3: Ye.
Speaker 1: So what brought on the let's talk about UFOs thing
Speaker 1: because it was kind of your initiative.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we were going to go try to do
Speaker 2: a kind of an on site investigation down the road
Speaker 2: for what we We didn't tell what it was, but
Speaker 2: we went when when and you were like making water
Speaker 2: drips out. Yeah, we're going to save that. But because
Speaker 2: I am running back and forth to my hometown helping
Speaker 2: my dad who's struggling with some you know, old age things.
Speaker 2: And because of that, I decided that we needed a
Speaker 2: new mattress in the motor home so that I can
Speaker 2: come down here and sleep in a little more comfort.
Speaker 2: And so we went to a mattress factory. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: is is it gets better, It gets better. So we
Speaker 2: go to this mattress factory where they custom make mattresses.
Speaker 2: Because if any of you have r VS, you might
Speaker 2: know that sometimes there's a difference in size between a
Speaker 2: queen size mattress and an RV queen size mattress. So
Speaker 2: we go to this mattress store, your mother and I,
Speaker 2: and we buy a mattress. And as we're leaving, I
Speaker 2: noticed he scans my debit card on a special thing
Speaker 2: that was connected to his phone, and I thought, oh,
Speaker 2: that's cool or whatever. Yeah, and I thought, well that's cool.
Speaker 2: I should get one of those because my son and
Speaker 2: I would like to go to some trade shows sometime
Speaker 2: and sell some paraphernalia and yeah, And he asked me
Speaker 2: what we do, and I said, well, we have a
Speaker 2: podcast called A Strange Thing and his ears perked up
Speaker 2: and his eyes open wide, and he's like, oh, man,
Speaker 2: we love Coast to Coast am with George Norri and
Speaker 2: we're really into that kind of stuff. And I said, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's we're kind of like that. We talk about strange things,
Speaker 2: everything from like UFOs, cattle mulations to you know, any
Speaker 2: kind of paranormal stuff or cryptids. You know, we like
Speaker 2: to talk about it. He goes, Oh, that's cool, and
Speaker 2: then he goes, my mom's seen a UFO, and my
Speaker 2: ears perked up and I'm like, oh really, and I said, oh,
Speaker 2: she has. And then he goes, hey, Mom, tell him
Speaker 2: about your UFO. So she gives me a really quick
Speaker 2: story about her from the early nineteen eighties at her husband,
Speaker 2: and it was really cool. Unfortunately, at that time I
Speaker 2: didn't have time to talk to her much because we
Speaker 2: needed to get on the road down to where I'm
Speaker 2: at now so that we could help my dad. So
Speaker 2: I asked if it would be okay when I went
Speaker 2: back to pick up the mattress if I could sit
Speaker 2: down and record our conversation with his mother and get
Speaker 2: the whole story. And she acted like she was really
Speaker 2: excited to do that. So about a week and a
Speaker 2: half later, when we went back to town, went to
Speaker 2: this mattress factory. I sat down with her and talked
Speaker 2: to her for probably forty minutes. I took my wife
Speaker 2: and we sat down and she took a few videos
Speaker 2: and recorded some things, and I recorded the whole session.
Speaker 3: So this is kind of like an unexpected podcast time.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And you know, when she told me about it,
Speaker 2: it kind of reminded me of how we kicked off
Speaker 2: our whole estrange Thing podcast career, that we jumped right
Speaker 2: into cattle mutilations. And of course, anybody who's been around
Speaker 2: cattle mutilations realizes that oftentimes cattle mutilations go hand in
Speaker 2: hand with the UFO sidings and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: So I got onto our Facebook page requested if anybody
Speaker 2: had any stories about close encounters or UFOs to send
Speaker 2: them to us, and we got a few, so I
Speaker 2: thought maybe we could kick it off by telling a
Speaker 2: few of these stories.
Speaker 3: I haven't heard any of these. I've heard a little
Speaker 3: bit of the of the mattress lady.
Speaker 2: Of the excerpt that will play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I've heard bits and pieces, and I kind
Speaker 1: of avoided listening to it. So it could be fresh,
Speaker 1: so I can actually hear it and we can have
Speaker 1: an authentic podcast experience. Yeah no, these these uh what
Speaker 1: are like listeners submitted stories that.
Speaker 2: So, just to kick it off, I'm going to read
Speaker 2: something that Tiffany sent us. She just sent it, just
Speaker 2: said through you through our Facebook podcast page. So if
Speaker 2: anybody wants to get on there and leave comments or whatever,
Speaker 2: you're welcome to do that.
Speaker 3: While we're talking about like listeners submitted stuff, can I
Speaker 3: do a little shout out?
Speaker 2: Yeah, do some shout out.
Speaker 1: I'm going to do a shout out to a longtime listener,
Speaker 1: first time reviewer. Yeah, named Holly.
Speaker 2: Holly forty six, Yeah, just the one that ramed us
Speaker 2: and said that we talk about ourselves too much.
Speaker 3: Holly review and it is a fun review.
Speaker 2: It's we love you anyway, Polly. Okay, you before to
Speaker 2: read the review? Is it a boy or girl? We know?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm here get judging by the navy.
Speaker 2: Hey, he wants a crack crapper boy. He's got a
Speaker 2: couple here here. Oh okay, actually we're not crackers.
Speaker 3: We are. Well, I'll just read it to you. Yeah
Speaker 3: you're ready.
Speaker 1: I desperately tried to give these two hon yuks a chance.
Speaker 1: So I.
Speaker 3: Had to look up what a hon yunk was, and uh,
Speaker 3: PAULI then parrot spells it h u n y u
Speaker 3: c k s. So I googled that.
Speaker 1: And the first thing that came up was like a slang,
Speaker 1: kind of not nice way to say a European immigrant.
Speaker 3: That doesn't make are you all?
Speaker 2: He went all racist on the stindy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's judging by my looks that I'm hunger and.
Speaker 1: I'm clearly German, dude, I'm clearly German parent. Uh. And
Speaker 1: then I spelled it differently. I put a couple of
Speaker 1: variations of the word that the parrot tried to spell,
Speaker 1: and I think it's hon yak with like an h
Speaker 1: o in. It means you're like like an idiot.
Speaker 2: Well that's what's He's a little more accurate there.
Speaker 3: I'd rather be an idiot than a Hungaria, I guess.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: So he tried to listen to these two hundred acts.
Speaker 1: He went on and on about themselves, like the saying goes,
Speaker 1: the waiter doesn't need to know your name. Have you
Speaker 1: ever heard that say? The same waiter doesn't need to
Speaker 1: know your name?
Speaker 2: I should eat out more. I don't. I've never heard that,
Speaker 2: but I get what he's saying.
Speaker 3: Here's a fun fact.
Speaker 1: The waiter probably does need to know your name, especially
Speaker 1: if you're paying with the car, to verify that you
Speaker 1: were the owner of the garden. So there's another slip
Speaker 1: up on that guy's part. And then the quirky attitude
Speaker 1: is the absolute worst. Okay, you don't like quirky attitude.
Speaker 1: Save yourselves from this almost torture. Don't waste a single minute.
Speaker 2: Didn't he say he wasted like seventeen minutes of his
Speaker 2: life or her life?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well at least she gave us seventeen minutes.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, okay, I'm thinking it was the
Speaker 1: parrot spent like five minutes listening to our first episode
Speaker 1: where we talk about ourselves too much, and then the
Speaker 1: twelve minutes trying to figure out how to spell honya,
Speaker 1: and then just hammered out some reveal.
Speaker 3: I don't really care about the reviews.
Speaker 1: I don't, but I think it's funny when people are
Speaker 1: like so angry this free content that I didn't pay
Speaker 1: for or I didn't do anything for.
Speaker 3: It's just not to my liking.
Speaker 2: Oh, come on, Austin, tell us how you really feel?
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: You know what's funny is that you if you combine
Speaker 2: the seventeen minutes that she listened with the probably hour
Speaker 2: that it took to comment and to get everything correlated
Speaker 2: to send the review, she probably waste it close to
Speaker 2: an hour hour and a half on us. And I'm
Speaker 2: kind of flattered by that. So I wish her him
Speaker 2: the best. You know, we're an acquired flavor kind of
Speaker 2: like a fine wine. And I hope, I hope she
Speaker 2: finds something that she likes or he likes and that
Speaker 2: they they you know, there they go. But anyway, thank
Speaker 2: you for the review. And just so you know, if
Speaker 2: you do review us and you give us that kind
Speaker 2: of review, we might slander you all over on our
Speaker 2: neck indcast and if.
Speaker 1: You know, if you give us reviews, but if we've
Speaker 1: got a usual read them. But her, I want to
Speaker 1: just mention that her the name, like the title of
Speaker 1: her views. I want my seventeen minutes back. I can
Speaker 1: give her it the pair for seventeen minutes.
Speaker 3: Back right now? Ready? Okay, yeah, Polly forty six, you
Speaker 3: need to start working out.
Speaker 1: If you don't already, you need to drink for water,
Speaker 1: you need to eat healthy chuck charms out completely for
Speaker 1: a little while. And lastly, don't let things like free
Speaker 1: content bother you so much.
Speaker 3: You act to leave one star review with words.
Speaker 1: That you can't smell from, and you can get you
Speaker 1: seventeen minutes of your life back year and you'll live.
Speaker 2: You'll live seventeen minutes longer.
Speaker 1: There you go, seventeen minutes longer, and seventeen less minutes
Speaker 1: writing reviews.
Speaker 2: That are in probably use our gift to you. Okay, well,
Speaker 2: now let's get back to our regularly scheduled program. What
Speaker 2: do you say? Yeah, so, anyway, Tiffany wrote us, and
Speaker 2: she says, this is she's talking about her UFO experience.
Speaker 3: She says, do we know Tiffany?
Speaker 2: Nope, just somebody who commented on our podcast page on Facebook,
Speaker 2: which is probably seventeen minutes. Yeah, she's the Yeah, she's
Speaker 2: the antithesis of Polly. She's anyway. Yeah, so Tiffany wrote,
Speaker 2: this is our estrange thing podcast page, which you can
Speaker 2: find if you want and join. Hey, there you go. Anyway,
Speaker 2: she writes, my story is pretty tame. I was sitting
Speaker 2: on my deck talking on the phone to my sister,
Speaker 2: My deck was on the second story, and I looked
Speaker 2: out over a golf course at a small valley, so
Speaker 2: not a lot of trees. It was three pm on
Speaker 2: a cloudless autumn day. The sun was behind me, and
Speaker 2: I saw what looked like was a small, low flying
Speaker 2: plane come straight at me. It was about a half
Speaker 2: mile out, maybe two hundred and fifty feet off of
Speaker 2: the ground. The only thing strange at first was the color.
Speaker 2: It was pure polished silver, like a necklace. I remember
Speaker 2: how brightly it shined in the sunlight as it got closer,
Speaker 2: though it wasn't making any noise. I thought I should
Speaker 2: at least hear the faint war of an engine or something,
Speaker 2: but all I could hear was the passing traffic and
Speaker 2: a lone gas powered golf cart down on the course below.
Speaker 2: I'm describing all this to my sister as we're talking
Speaker 2: on the phone, and she said, go get a camera
Speaker 2: and take a photo. But it was pretty smartphone. The
Speaker 2: plane was about a quarter mile out and still looked
Speaker 2: like a plane. I was going to tell her I
Speaker 2: wouldn't have time to go grab it. Then I sneezed,
Speaker 2: and when I opened my eyes, the thing was gone.
Speaker 2: It was just gone. There were no clouds or trees,
Speaker 2: it could have flown behind. It was just gone in
Speaker 2: the space of a sneeze. That's Tony Way. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: your story, So thanks Tiffany for that. You know, that's
Speaker 2: that's one of those kind of maybe the kind of
Speaker 2: encounters that I've had with UFOs where you don't know
Speaker 2: really what to think of it and then it's gone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you don't have time to assess the
Speaker 1: situation and actually make a decision on what you're actually
Speaker 1: seeing stuck in limbo, and that might be what makes
Speaker 1: it unidentified flying out instead of that Boeing seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's really interesting how your mind tries to
Speaker 2: fill in things and when it doesn't get the right information,
Speaker 2: it doesn't know what to do with It doesn't know
Speaker 2: how to to quantify it and pack it away. I
Speaker 2: remember when I was a little kid, I was on
Speaker 2: a school bus. I was probably I don't know, eleven, twelve, thirteen,
Speaker 2: somewhere in there. I think I was going to junior
Speaker 2: high school. We were on the way in and I
Speaker 2: was looking out the window and somebody pointed at something
Speaker 2: and said, what is that. Now. This is when there
Speaker 2: was a lot of weird stuff going on. This would
Speaker 2: have been like right before the eighties, like late seventies,
Speaker 2: and there were a lot of uf mutilation. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: kind of soon after that, and so there was a
Speaker 2: lot of like reportings of UFOs and strange things. I
Speaker 2: think a few movies came out, like Close Encounters of
Speaker 2: the third kind.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 2: It was kind of like at its equinox, you know,
Speaker 2: it was like this new thing, and so I looked
Speaker 2: out and sure enough I saw this thing and it
Speaker 2: kind of weirded me out. But then it disappeared. It
Speaker 2: just vanished. And so when I got to school, I
Speaker 2: actually had to go to the office and see if
Speaker 2: I could call the radio station or the TV station
Speaker 2: and see if anybody else had seen the UFO. They
Speaker 2: let me go into the office and call the TV station,
Speaker 2: and nobody else had reported seeing it. So but anyway,
Speaker 2: that's the kind of kid I was. I was always
Speaker 2: looking for that kind of crap, baby, But you know,
Speaker 2: I come from it, honestly, because when I was a
Speaker 2: little kid, my sister said that she saw aliens come
Speaker 2: into her room and she said that she lost time.
Speaker 2: And Connie, if you're out there and I'm telling this
Speaker 2: story wrong. You'll have to give us your real story
Speaker 2: at some point. The way I remember it is she
Speaker 2: was in bed asleep, middle of the night, and she
Speaker 2: looks up and there's this like kind of weird glow.
Speaker 2: And as she's looking at this weird glow, the shadows
Speaker 2: that was cast onto the carpet as it went into
Speaker 2: her room, she could see legs and then they were
Speaker 2: moving towards her. And then she could see little feet
Speaker 2: with boots on in the hallway, but they were short,
Speaker 2: and the legs coming out of them were like green.
Speaker 2: And then every this would have been late seventies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So she.
Speaker 2: Says she lost time and then woke up and it
Speaker 2: was the next day. And that story that she told
Speaker 2: me scared me so bad. I mean, I could not
Speaker 2: sleep downstairs alone in the basement anymore. I would sneak
Speaker 2: upstairs on my hands and knees and crawl into that
Speaker 2: my mom and dad dren sleep on the dog pillow
Speaker 2: because I was too terrified that a UFO or the
Speaker 2: aliens come carry me away. That's the room he'd be
Speaker 2: sleeping in, right, Yeah, this is the room that I
Speaker 2: slept in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got a little ship behind you through the
Speaker 1: windows in the corrals.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, this is where it all happened. Now I'm
Speaker 2: kind of getting a little bit weirded out because I
Speaker 2: got to sleep. I'm not sleeping here and sleeping in
Speaker 2: the driveway the.
Speaker 3: Notice, but you're gonna go sleep in the dog and
Speaker 3: Grandpa's Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just hope I don't seeny green feet her legs
Speaker 2: climbing up the stairs to the motor home.
Speaker 1: That sounds like the beginning of an alien story, right.
Speaker 1: The guy goes down to his hometown, brings his RV.
Speaker 1: He's sleeping outside in his RV, and then the RV
Speaker 1: starts shaking, the power goes out, and then he wakes
Speaker 1: up after a weird.
Speaker 3: David dream about the little Green men, and then he's
Speaker 3: last time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's pretty good. I hope that doesn't happen anyway.
Speaker 2: If it does, I just don't want any probing. I
Speaker 2: don't want any probing. Please, no probing?
Speaker 3: All right, hopefully it first. What's our next story, Well.
Speaker 2: Let's just let's just jump into I'm calling her Jane Doe.
Speaker 2: She gives her story, and she kind of asked to
Speaker 2: be anonymous just because she took some flat from this
Speaker 2: back in the day when she tried to tell people,
Speaker 2: even from her family and stuff. But anyway, she got
Speaker 2: brave and she told her whole story. And she is
Speaker 2: a sweet lady with a mind, you know, as sharp
Speaker 2: as attack. So I'm just gonna play it. If you
Speaker 2: want Austin to just jump in and I'll pose it.
Speaker 2: You can ask questions, Yeah, wave your flag. That means
Speaker 2: that means stop right.
Speaker 3: If I have questions. I told you, I want to
Speaker 3: ask the little bit that I've heard. I want to
Speaker 3: ask a few questions as it because it could be
Speaker 3: kind of me.
Speaker 2: Okay, I will set it up by saying that we
Speaker 2: were sitting in the little back room in the mattress
Speaker 2: factory and I just told her that, you know, just
Speaker 2: in her own words, just start telling the story. And
Speaker 2: so this is what she did.
Speaker 4: I can't remember whether it was Sunday or Monday. We
Speaker 4: were in Salt Lake. Sometimes we came back on Sunday,
Speaker 4: sometimes on Monday. But we decided to go through state
Speaker 4: line through Nevada.
Speaker 2: And what year do you think this was, Well.
Speaker 4: It's got to be in the eighties, but I can't
Speaker 4: I was trying to. I think it's about forty years ago.
Speaker 4: It was a salt like and we was coming along
Speaker 4: and I say, fifteen miles now, but we didn't know
Speaker 4: it at the time. We timed it after we saw this,
Speaker 4: but fifteen miles from the Nevada's date line, okay, and
Speaker 4: there's two hills like this, just little bump hills, and
Speaker 4: this thing came out between the two.
Speaker 2: I could see it down the road, you know, so
Speaker 2: it was like coming over the road kind of.
Speaker 5: No, it was coming over the salt flats, okay. And
Speaker 5: I kidded my husband.
Speaker 4: I said, well, here comes your flying saucer, Here comes
Speaker 4: your flying saucer, thinking it's a helicopter. When it got closer,
Speaker 4: we knew it couldn't have My husband just pulled right
Speaker 4: in right away.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 4: And he stood up in the we had a glass top.
Speaker 4: He said, well, isn't gonna do it. And I'm screaming
Speaker 4: all the time.
Speaker 5: Don't get out there, don't get out of Yeah, I
Speaker 5: would scared to death.
Speaker 4: And then he got out and I said, well, I
Speaker 4: guess I just as well. And about that time it
Speaker 4: came like this, and then it turned like this right.
Speaker 2: Above us, right above us, so it was spinning in there,
Speaker 2: really just very slow, just turned.
Speaker 3: I got two questions. She said, there's two hills. Okay.
Speaker 1: So this lady, in my opinion, she's very grandma old lady,
Speaker 1: hands gestures doing like weird up above her head in
Speaker 1: motion right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could tell. I was watching her eyes and
Speaker 2: her facial expressions, and she was reliving that moment. So
Speaker 2: she was she had her hands in the air, she
Speaker 2: was kind of pointing in a certain direction. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: she was, you know, making gestures and describing things, and
Speaker 2: she would she had drawn a picture, and I'll put
Speaker 2: that picture on our Facebook page and also on our website.
Speaker 2: But she'd drawn a picture, actually had her granddaughter draw
Speaker 2: a picture of what she saw. I'd also asked her
Speaker 2: if I could make a three D model of it,
Speaker 2: which I'll also put that up. Yeah. So she was
Speaker 2: very animated and very interested in telling the story. You
Speaker 2: could tell.
Speaker 1: Well, my question is because she says it kind of
Speaker 1: comes over two hills, so I'm trying to like cover.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so she said it comes between them, so I
Speaker 2: don't know. In fact, I'll put a picture up because
Speaker 2: I actually used Google Earth and went there about fifteen
Speaker 2: miles out and then looked around at where these hills
Speaker 2: would be. So if you have the salt flats, many
Speaker 2: of you have seen those where they do the speed
Speaker 2: testing and try to go for the land speed records.
Speaker 2: It's just a totally flat bed of salt, I mean,
Speaker 2: for miles and miles and miles out of that, in
Speaker 2: a couple of areas are just some hills that kind
Speaker 2: of sprout and you can see in different locations. And
Speaker 2: I'm not sure which one she was talking about, but
Speaker 2: you'll have this flat area and then to the right
Speaker 2: and to the left will be two hills that kind
Speaker 2: of point out of it. And so that's what I
Speaker 2: think she's talking about.
Speaker 1: You got the impression it was actually coming kind of
Speaker 1: between the two hills, right.
Speaker 2: I think I asked her that question a little bit
Speaker 2: more later, and I think she she clarifies that.
Speaker 3: Then she said, it's turning like this.
Speaker 1: I don't picture, you know, like doing like some kind
Speaker 1: of weird rave motion, you knowlolo.
Speaker 3: But what's she implying when she says that turned like this.
Speaker 2: I think she is saying that it came through the
Speaker 2: hills and then kind of made a turn and went
Speaker 2: straight to where they had pulled over in their car and.
Speaker 3: Saying it made like a route, so it came through
Speaker 3: the hills, and it made a route that turned.
Speaker 1: Towards their car, towards their car, not that it was
Speaker 1: like spinning as it came through the mountains.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. I think, well, and you'll
Speaker 2: find out later once it gets there it does spin
Speaker 2: or rotate. It was still too far away to hell
Speaker 2: at that point. It was just moving towards them.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, it sounded almost like as though it was spinning
Speaker 1: as it was coming through the between the hills.
Speaker 3: That was turning like this, she's winding yarn vertically kind
Speaker 3: of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think so. One thing I found interesting
Speaker 2: she said we had a glass top. So apparently the
Speaker 2: car they were in was a convertible. They had a
Speaker 2: glass top, so they were actually able to stand up
Speaker 2: and see through that opening. I thought that was kind
Speaker 2: of interesting. I don't know what kind of car it was,
Speaker 2: but I'd like to ask her. Yeah, but it was
Speaker 2: the eighties, so I mean a convertible would have been,
Speaker 2: or a T top would have been something that's been around,
Speaker 2: trans am, but yeah, transamb.
Speaker 3: Or I'm thinking of T bird, Yeah bird, T bird, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I like birds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the image so far. Salt flats, te bird,
Speaker 1: Jane do smoking it looking.
Speaker 2: At the YEP, A couple of love traveling through the desert.
Speaker 2: Here we go.
Speaker 4: My husband was probably three feet away from it. I
Speaker 4: was probably six or seven feet were close close, and
Speaker 4: it just turns slowly right around. We can see double
Speaker 4: underneath of it, and then it just stayed right in
Speaker 4: that spot.
Speaker 5: When we finished and.
Speaker 4: He was taking everything in trying to judge, we judged
Speaker 4: it was would have to be small people if.
Speaker 5: They were in there, and if they could see out.
Speaker 4: There was no windshield, no nothing, and so they would
Speaker 4: have to see through that metal if they could see.
Speaker 4: But it was very quiet and very You could hear
Speaker 4: this fan. Not a lot of fan, just a quiet
Speaker 4: fan type thing.
Speaker 2: Right. What was the material?
Speaker 4: Well, this is what confused me, because all of this
Speaker 4: around the front looked like it was chrome, and this
Speaker 4: through here was kind of a it looked like it
Speaker 4: was metal like, and it was not light metal.
Speaker 2: It wasn't dark.
Speaker 5: It was a medium brown, medium brown.
Speaker 2: Brown like rusty brown or more of a No, it
Speaker 2: wasn't rusty.
Speaker 4: It was just more of a soft brown, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 4: But This confused me because I thought that looks like chrome,
Speaker 4: you know, and I wouldn't know if they could have
Speaker 4: chrome wherever this came from or not. But it was
Speaker 4: very shiny, and they were all lights.
Speaker 2: In there, oh, in the in the inside, so it
Speaker 2: was like a grill.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah it was.
Speaker 2: And they were square openings like this.
Speaker 5: I really think that it was.
Speaker 4: There was another one along here, because my son asked
Speaker 4: me what shape was and I said, well, it was
Speaker 4: a hexagon, but it went back to a point where.
Speaker 2: This this was so like the front was a hexagon shape,
Speaker 2: and then it went back almost like a triangle. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: to a point at them end. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So when I've heard people say, well, it looks like
Speaker 4: it's triangle, I said, that's exactly, and that's it's only
Speaker 4: been recently I heard anybody say that it was like
Speaker 4: a triangle.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I have listened and listened for years trying to pick
Speaker 4: up anybody that would come up with something that we saw,
Speaker 4: and I never did till lately. They said it's like
Speaker 4: a triangle, and I said, I said, that's right, it's
Speaker 4: like a triangle. But this looked like a hexagon here
Speaker 4: in front.
Speaker 3: H So she said like a hexagon going into a point.
Speaker 2: Think of it like a guitar kind of body. But
Speaker 2: the front of the head of the guitar had six well,
Speaker 2: actually would have only been one, two, three, four, five faces.
Speaker 2: And then instead of the hexagon being fitted on the back,
Speaker 2: it went straight back into a point, so there were
Speaker 2: only two more sides. So really it had seven sides.
Speaker 2: But if it would have been the same in the
Speaker 2: front as it was in the back.
Speaker 3: It would have had six.
Speaker 1: That makes sense, kind of like the thing in Star Wars,
Speaker 1: and kind of yeah, it's got like that kind of
Speaker 1: like clunky octagonal type rear and then it goes into
Speaker 1: a triangle from there like a point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in a way, I think it almost looks like
Speaker 2: the Millennium Falcon, although if the back of the Millennium
Speaker 2: Falcon went to a point instead of kind of rounded,
Speaker 2: but then had that kind of big fat front end
Speaker 2: with six sides, well actually it would be five sides
Speaker 2: in the front. Then you've got an idea of what
Speaker 2: this thing looked like to her. So she was she
Speaker 2: was pointing out the picture that she had drawn and
Speaker 2: like tapping on the table and kind of showing it,
Speaker 2: and you know, I tried to draw out a description
Speaker 2: from her as we go along, because I knew that
Speaker 2: people listening weren't going to be able to see it
Speaker 2: in exactly the same way I.
Speaker 3: Was picturing, like the star destroyer.
Speaker 2: Like a giant long triangle with a big, sharp pointing nose.
Speaker 1: Like an arrowhead, but the back of the arrowhead would
Speaker 1: be octagonal or hexagon.
Speaker 2: Flip one of the star destroyers backwards.
Speaker 3: Big was the big side forward in the rear side, okay.
Speaker 2: And the front of it, that big side in the
Speaker 2: front was actually it had six, well five sides, so
Speaker 2: and then the front of it was like she described
Speaker 2: it as a grill, like a really shining real with
Speaker 2: lights inside of it. So anyway, she'll get more into
Speaker 2: that here in a.
Speaker 3: Second, right, Okay, I get it.
Speaker 2: I think it's definitely a very unique thing. And to
Speaker 2: me that makes it more legit.
Speaker 1: Right, because what you always hear it makes it more legit.
Speaker 1: It's a disc is what you typically hear, right, Or
Speaker 1: it's like a cigar shape, like a two cylindrical with
Speaker 1: rounded ends kind of making its way across the sky.
Speaker 3: Those are the the UFO encounters that you hear.
Speaker 2: A typical yep although nowadays you hear a lot more
Speaker 2: about like a triangle type shapes that you know that
Speaker 2: are flying over Phoenix or wherever that have like bright
Speaker 2: light sources kind of aiming down. You kind of hear
Speaker 2: more about that kind of shape, like a stealth shape
Speaker 2: or a flying shape.
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of like that stealth bomber that that what's
Speaker 1: that bomber called looks like a sparrow kind.
Speaker 3: Of yeah, black stealth bomber.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a even flying wing. But anyway, it's
Speaker 2: it's very interesting to me. It kind of reminded me
Speaker 2: of this drawing that she had, almost like some of
Speaker 2: the pod Racers and Star Wars with the big engines
Speaker 2: up front, they kind of drag something behind. But it's
Speaker 2: not quite like that because.
Speaker 3: It's like solariat style. The pod Racers are like a chariot.
Speaker 1: They got two big rockets and then like a guy
Speaker 1: and like a chariot controlling it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's funny that be too.
Speaker 1: Stealth Bomber kind of has a it's not the same
Speaker 1: yet that shape the octagon is being inversed as it
Speaker 1: goes across its angles, you know, instead of being always
Speaker 1: positive motions until it's apex and then making a negative
Speaker 1: move towards the other side.
Speaker 3: It's like positive negative positive negative. If that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. If you flip that backwards, if that
Speaker 2: plane flew backwards and you clip the wings off, you'd
Speaker 2: have something that was very close to the shape she describes.
Speaker 2: What were we going to say?
Speaker 3: I was going to say, I'll explain the sports.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I encourage people to go look at the drawing, the
Speaker 2: original drawing, and then the three D thing that I
Speaker 2: made up to try to narrow it down a little bit.
Speaker 2: One thing that I think is kind of cool about
Speaker 2: it is because it's such a unique shape, and because
Speaker 2: she was so detailed and her memory was so good
Speaker 2: on this, and she was able to describe it in
Speaker 2: such fine detail. And it was that it happened in
Speaker 2: the middle of the daylight and they were so close
Speaker 2: to it. The husband was two feet away, could have
Speaker 2: reached out something, huh. So she was like six or
Speaker 2: seven feet behind that, So they were close.
Speaker 3: Was it above them or was it next to them?
Speaker 2: It kind of descended. I asked this question later on too.
Speaker 2: It descends and then it just sits in front of
Speaker 2: them and just rotates slowly in the air, almost silent.
Speaker 2: She said that made sounds kind of like a fan,
Speaker 2: but I'll let her tell that here in a minute.
Speaker 2: She gets into a little more And how long did
Speaker 2: you stay there and watch?
Speaker 5: About fifteen minutes.
Speaker 4: It's hard to judge, but as soon as it it
Speaker 4: stayed right there, and then it just went off or
Speaker 4: there was a bunch of bushes like they have long
Speaker 4: a ditchbrank and that was kind of tall, so it
Speaker 4: went right over to the top, just skimmed those as
Speaker 4: went over into a field I think one beyond, and
Speaker 4: then we couldn't see it anymore.
Speaker 2: It just kind of disappeared.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if we're so excited or whatever,
Speaker 4: but I couldn't see it after it went over that bushes.
Speaker 4: But we first thing, my husband said, is checked the time,
Speaker 4: see if we've been taken up if I was horrified,
Speaker 4: And it hadn't been about fifteen minutes since.
Speaker 2: We had checked it, so no time loss, no tongue.
Speaker 4: And so then we decided, well, as we've gone down
Speaker 4: the road, judged the size of it, and we judged
Speaker 4: the size of it as they had little railroad house
Speaker 4: is along the road where their workers lived in. It
Speaker 4: was the size of that, so that kind of gives
Speaker 4: you idea of the size of it, but it wasn't
Speaker 4: very tall.
Speaker 2: So I think it's interesting that one of the biggest
Speaker 2: concerns she has, the thing that freaked her out probably
Speaker 2: the most, was that she was worried they were going
Speaker 2: to be you know, abducted, and they were going to
Speaker 2: experience time loss. And she kind of hinted to that
Speaker 2: multiple times that that's one of the first things they
Speaker 2: checked after this thing left was to see if they
Speaker 2: lost time.
Speaker 1: That's kind of funny. It reminds me of that episode
Speaker 1: of X Files. Yeah, I think it's one of the first.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's gotta be the first season where they're
Speaker 1: driving in that crease or whatever old car and it
Speaker 1: turns off and their watches are weird and he hops
Speaker 1: out and he looks around and there's like an X
Speaker 1: on the road. He checks the watch and he's like,
Speaker 1: I'm looking for time loss. Very similar kind of story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's interesting.
Speaker 4: We judged where we were to where we got to
Speaker 4: state line, and it was fifteen miles.
Speaker 2: Fifteen miles from state line from the Nevada line.
Speaker 4: In the prom Utah to the Nevada state line, because
Speaker 4: there's it's kind of the state line goes like this,
Speaker 4: then you kind of go up a little grade into
Speaker 4: state line. And I think it was just as we
Speaker 4: got to that point where you went up that little
Speaker 4: grade to state line.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that is really that's an awesome story. So
Speaker 2: when this thing floated over kind of where you were
Speaker 2: and you pull over, so you're on the side of
Speaker 2: the road, kind of like in a gravel area on
Speaker 2: the side of the road.
Speaker 4: No, it was kind of grassy, you know. It was
Speaker 4: really it's really the salt plats. But it was an
Speaker 4: area you could drive off. You could stay right on
Speaker 4: the highway and drive off. But when my husband saw
Speaker 4: it coming, he just went in as far as he could,
Speaker 4: you know. And so I would say that the highway
Speaker 4: was from here to the next fence over.
Speaker 5: There was trying to judge it.
Speaker 2: So did it kind of float up to you, levitate
Speaker 2: up to you.
Speaker 4: Just just quietly came like this, and then it turned,
Speaker 4: you know, all the way around, and then it was
Speaker 4: facing north and south. It came from the west to
Speaker 4: the east, and then after it got through this turn,
Speaker 4: it was facing north and south.
Speaker 2: And so it went off north and went.
Speaker 5: No, I'm so sorry now that we didn't stand there
Speaker 5: and watch.
Speaker 4: We thought, go over the bushes and down towards the field,
Speaker 4: but it wasn't high enough that you could, you know,
Speaker 4: it didn't take.
Speaker 2: Off in the sky or anything. Didn't go up the altitude.
Speaker 2: Did the altitude drop as it moved towards you you
Speaker 2: think a little bit.
Speaker 5: Uh, it probably did, but so slowly we didn't recognize it.
Speaker 2: It wasn't extreme.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, after that happened, I imagine you guys were pretty
Speaker 2: I'm excited. I was just I was just I tell
Speaker 2: you I was.
Speaker 5: I wasn't scared.
Speaker 4: After I got out there and was looking at it,
Speaker 4: I mean I was looking This sounds silly for a lady,
Speaker 4: but I was trying to see how it was made. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and my husband was just, oh, he just took He
Speaker 4: could tell you more than I can tell you. He
Speaker 4: was just, Oh, it was his whole lifetime to see it,
Speaker 4: to see that there it was.
Speaker 5: It didn't matter.
Speaker 4: He didn't care ifully took him or what they did.
Speaker 4: He was going out there and so it really it
Speaker 4: really was quite an experience. But then we didn't we
Speaker 4: come back and we told our voice about it, and
Speaker 4: a few people that when you had to be careful
Speaker 4: who you told it to, because at that time there
Speaker 4: were a lot of flying sauces and everybody's crazy. They're
Speaker 4: seeing lights in the sky, and you know, I'd never
Speaker 4: heard anyone that has ever seen it in the daylight.
Speaker 2: Like we had it.
Speaker 4: I've never even been to grass sites after it's never
Speaker 4: even the pilots have been this close to it that
Speaker 4: I can remember.
Speaker 2: So I thought this was pretty interesting, how she was
Speaker 2: so excited and how energized they were to the point
Speaker 2: they were you know, basically they were giddy. Right, the
Speaker 2: husband had been hoping to see something like this his
Speaker 2: entire life, and then all of a sudden, there it was.
Speaker 3: Right, which I mean, I have to play this skeptical guy.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, you know, I could picture a scenario where
Speaker 1: the guy wants to see something his whole life, and
Speaker 1: then they're on this long trip and they come up
Speaker 1: with a thing. Maybe they saw a helicopter and the
Speaker 1: I'm not discrediting what she saw. I want to make
Speaker 1: that good, but I can see that the situation was
Speaker 1: the way where they saw helicopter was like is that
Speaker 1: the UFO?
Speaker 3: And then they kind of I don't know if it's
Speaker 3: like a self.
Speaker 1: Fulfilling prophecy or whatever, but they kind of walked themselves
Speaker 1: down the path of seeing. But I love her story.
Speaker 1: I'm not discrediting what she's saying, and I do believe
Speaker 1: that she's completely telling the truth of what she believes.
Speaker 2: I just is my brain is like an.
Speaker 1: Over logical person to say, like is she filling in
Speaker 1: gaps or something, or is there another story or But you.
Speaker 2: Know, it's so strange to hear her tell the story
Speaker 2: because what she talks about is not the typical UFO
Speaker 2: and the way she describes it in such detail, and
Speaker 2: that they were so close and there is this thing floating,
Speaker 2: this metallic object floating, you know, within the arms reach,
Speaker 2: and it's not even stirring up the dust underneath it,
Speaker 2: but it's totally levitating. Now, this isn't like, you know,
Speaker 2: we have drones now that can fly in battery power
Speaker 2: for a half an hour, no problem. This was nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty one, eighty two. Somewhere in that zone. They didn't
Speaker 2: have that technology. Batteries weren't that sophisticated. Back then. They
Speaker 2: had remote control cars and things that could last a
Speaker 2: little bit, but nothing of that size to me that
Speaker 2: gives it credibility. Now what it was. Could it have
Speaker 2: been some kind of experiment from a million Yeah, that
Speaker 2: they took to the salt flats. It's an area to
Speaker 2: test that, yeah, so it kind of hovercraft.
Speaker 3: It's a perfect area for the government testing.
Speaker 2: Another thing in that area, Mortan Faikol was out there.
Speaker 2: They built the engines for the Space Shuttle, so there
Speaker 2: was a lot of testing of stuff out in that area.
Speaker 2: There always has been, some of the government, some of
Speaker 2: it private. So it could have been something like that.
Speaker 2: I don't know. But whatever it was, it was a
Speaker 2: UFO was unidentified and it was freaky weird.
Speaker 1: So she mentions that it's roughly the size of one
Speaker 1: of the railroad houses that were on the side of
Speaker 1: the road. Right, what do you think that dimension was
Speaker 1: twelve by twelve, twenty four by twenty four.
Speaker 2: I think it's a little bigger than twelve by twelve.
Speaker 2: I saw it as something about the size of a
Speaker 2: standard garage, which would be sixteen by sixteen or maybe
Speaker 2: twenty by twenty.
Speaker 3: Kind of like a shops side like a ship, like a.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it wasn't like a it wasn't like a
Speaker 2: car side. It was bigger than a car.
Speaker 3: You can say it was about the size of your average.
Speaker 2: Motor Yeah, yeah, a little wider but yeah, huh.
Speaker 3: If you were to add of the square footage motor size.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean it was. It was big, and
Speaker 2: it was described as, you know, kind of a soft
Speaker 2: brown metal but in that front hexagonal shape, it had
Speaker 2: chrome like bumpers with lights that were embedded inside of
Speaker 2: a grid. So it was like a like a grid
Speaker 2: of lights inside of like a chrome grill kind of thing.
Speaker 2: And it's very interesting. You'll have to get on our
Speaker 2: website and look at the picture that we kind of
Speaker 2: modeled up for it, but it's definitely well you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had to follow instructions on the text message
Speaker 1: to figure out how to get myself on the camera
Speaker 1: at the top of my dad. I'm not a computer dude.
Speaker 1: I was just thinking though, with the whole light brown,
Speaker 1: roughly r V size situation, I was just thinking about
Speaker 1: how your beard's gotten a lot grayer lately. Yes, you
Speaker 1: have a light brown r V sized thing. It has
Speaker 1: a chrome grill and a bunch of lights on it,
Speaker 1: and I'm wondering if you're a time traveler. You've actually
Speaker 1: come and messed with this lady, and that's why your
Speaker 1: beard has gotten so great lately. And that is actually
Speaker 1: you've been a time traveler and you've been messing with people,
Speaker 1: and you're super awesome over home.
Speaker 3: It's light brown and has chrome grill in a lot
Speaker 3: of lights.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, love it there. Sorry, I wish if it
Speaker 2: could fly. I get better gas my lunch, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know. It's a it's a really
Speaker 2: funky story. She goes into a little more detail here.
Speaker 2: Let's keep going with her comments.
Speaker 4: And I kept saying, it's too bad that I can't
Speaker 4: tell somebody about this because it's a once in a lifetime.
Speaker 2: Deal and you're out of fear that people will think
Speaker 2: you're crazy, right.
Speaker 5: Right, Well some did when you told them. They look I, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: they're drink you know. On that There was one friend
Speaker 5: that I told that that she likes things like this,
Speaker 5: and she did believe me. She believed us.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So even just a couple of months ago, I tried
Speaker 4: to tell my nephews when I went home to I
Speaker 4: don't false to see my sister and we were having
Speaker 4: dinner and I tried to tell him, and I said, well,
Speaker 4: it's close right here in the room.
Speaker 2: They you know, they just blew it off. Yeah. So
Speaker 2: since then, have you had or heard or seen anything
Speaker 2: else like that?
Speaker 5: No, No, I have never seen anything like it. The
Speaker 5: only thing I picked up on was that it was.
Speaker 2: A triangle like like people are seeing now. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I've listened and listened for years. Nobody has come up
Speaker 4: with anything like what we saw except this. And this
Speaker 4: was what surprised me because it looked like, you know,
Speaker 4: the airplanes were the jets. Jets come out, and that's
Speaker 4: the first thing when I saw that. When I turned,
Speaker 4: I said, well, that's like a jet, you know. And
Speaker 4: then I couldn't see it anymore when I was standing
Speaker 4: here because there was there was something here, some kind
Speaker 4: of fins or something. And my husband wouldn't know, but
Speaker 4: I can't remember. I didn't concentrate on that.
Speaker 2: You were the front.
Speaker 5: And then when it went off the side, I said, yeah, that's.
Speaker 2: Just like a jet, you know, like a jet housing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just like a jet housing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe some fins around it.
Speaker 4: I'm not out here, but right through here. I'm here,
Speaker 4: and I'm sorry that I can't tell you but I could.
Speaker 5: It had to be enough that it disguised this.
Speaker 4: Until this is what I saw at the hint that
Speaker 4: this would be like a jet But I can't remember
Speaker 4: what those fins were like. But it was enough that
Speaker 4: I couldn't see it from the side until it went
Speaker 4: off to the side.
Speaker 1: I'm picturing you guys a lot of like pointing at
Speaker 1: the picture. You guys had her knee straw or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he granddaughter, what was the right here and the fins
Speaker 1: and the Yeah.
Speaker 2: So apparently when this thing kind of floated where it
Speaker 2: moved towards them and then slowly rotated, and as it
Speaker 2: was rotating, there were some kind of fins towards the
Speaker 2: back of the object that kind of blocked. As it
Speaker 2: continued to rotate, was revealed to be something that looked
Speaker 2: like kind of a jet engine housing. So so as
Speaker 2: it turned, it exposed more and more of that housing
Speaker 2: area of this jet nozzle or covering at the back. Now,
Speaker 2: interestingly enough, it wasn't like shooting flames or making a
Speaker 2: loud noise or like some kind of propulsion device obviously,
Speaker 2: because it wasn't activated like a jet engine would be.
Speaker 2: I mean, if it was a jet engine. It would
Speaker 2: blow your ear drums out, and if you got behind it,
Speaker 2: it would burn your face off. And that wasn't going on.
Speaker 2: And there was something to hump on the back of
Speaker 2: this triangular piece that looked like the housing of a
Speaker 2: jet engine, or at least that kind of bump that
Speaker 2: you would expect to see over an engine.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm picturing in a cute triangle.
Speaker 2: Ok I don't know if it's How do you know
Speaker 2: if it's cute or not?
Speaker 1: It could be a it's got the acute means that
Speaker 1: the angle is narrower than agrees I know.
Speaker 3: Okay, so we have it. We have an acute.
Speaker 1: Triangle, and the short side of the triangle is octagonal
Speaker 1: or or hexagonal, and then the apex or what's the point.
Speaker 2: Of a triangle called the corner that the.
Speaker 1: Only real drastic angle of this triangle has a tube,
Speaker 1: a cylindrical sticking.
Speaker 3: Out of it, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Think of an F sixteen, the rear of an
Speaker 2: F sixteen jet that all that points down, yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: Or think of a jet engine on this on the
Speaker 2: wing of a plane. It was something like that right
Speaker 2: in the middle of the triangle in the back. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's the way that was kind of drawn. So I
Speaker 2: don't know if it had like a nozzle, like a
Speaker 2: port on the back side, or if it was just
Speaker 2: kind of a bump.
Speaker 3: Interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, it's like it was shooting light and
Speaker 2: jet now. It was just kind of it reminded me
Speaker 2: the way she described it as. Have you seen the
Speaker 2: like extra fuel tanks that planes have on them that
Speaker 2: are shaped, Oh, you know, kind of like a missile
Speaker 2: kind of a shape, yeah, yeah, yeah, kind of a barrel,
Speaker 2: but they're a little more pointy. It kind of reminded
Speaker 2: me of something like that because it didn't sound like
Speaker 2: there was any kind of blast coming out of it.
Speaker 2: It was almost like it was just a I don't know,
Speaker 2: something with the whole of the ship that had shape
Speaker 2: to it.
Speaker 1: That's super It's not an UFO story you hear no where.
Speaker 1: It's covered up all of Seattle from my perspective, and had.
Speaker 3: All these.
Speaker 2: No That's why it fascinated me so much when she
Speaker 2: was telling me, because it's not.
Speaker 3: Typical and it's old the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the worst case, even if she's completely bonkers on
Speaker 1: aliens and stuff, it could be some weird scientific drown.
Speaker 1: They had to have the shut the air volume going
Speaker 1: through the grill part to be projected out to hump
Speaker 1: on the back or some kind of weird It's like
Speaker 1: science thing because it's the perfect area.
Speaker 2: Well, that grill, if he describes, each one of the
Speaker 2: little kind of made a lattice or grating on the front.
Speaker 2: This chrome grill was like a grate, and each one
Speaker 2: of the little recesses had a light fixture in it.
Speaker 2: In her mind, if those were turned on, it would
Speaker 2: be like this brilliant, blinding light out of the front
Speaker 2: of this vehicle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but knowing the government, have you ever seen a
Speaker 1: guy that owns a cheap Cherokee he's got those light bars. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got as many LED light bars as he's got.
Speaker 1: Is probably an LED light barb testing facility.
Speaker 2: In like nineteen eighty. Yeah, it could be.
Speaker 1: They were getting rid of those case lights, those round
Speaker 1: ones with the smiley faces, and they were moving into
Speaker 1: LED light bars so that people across the street from
Speaker 1: you work on their LFE bars in the middle of
Speaker 1: the night in light of your entire house.
Speaker 3: So I'm thinking that's what happened. I think it was
Speaker 3: a jeep chero key testing facility, lighte bar.
Speaker 2: Place something tells me no, but okay, you can run
Speaker 2: with that.
Speaker 3: I wasn't going to say lockers before light bars. Bro
Speaker 3: oh Man.
Speaker 2: One of the things before we get too far down
Speaker 2: this rabbit hole is I wanted to just highlight how
Speaker 2: nervous they were to tell their story because of at
Speaker 2: that time, how people were perceived that we're seeing these
Speaker 2: kind of objects now in that area, in that timeframe,
Speaker 2: there were probably hundreds of sightings of strange UFOs. This
Speaker 2: is different because it is so detailed, and it wasn't
Speaker 2: received well by a lot of people that heard the
Speaker 2: story from her, and so they kind of were a
Speaker 2: little nervous to let the out because they didn't want
Speaker 2: to be seen as these kind of weird weirdos. When
Speaker 2: that category right, and if you pick that up, you
Speaker 2: can still feel in her words that kind of tension
Speaker 2: that she had about telling her story because it was
Speaker 2: such a monumental kind of experience, but it was also
Speaker 2: something that they were nervous about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to make it pretty clear.
Speaker 1: I know people say that in podcast all its nuts, Like,
Speaker 1: I want to make it clear, Well, I think what
Speaker 1: she's saying is true. I'm not like second guessing her.
Speaker 1: I just got to I always play like the Devil's advocate.
Speaker 2: We got to play the skeptic. Yeah, you got to
Speaker 2: play the skeptic.
Speaker 1: And like guessing its light bars and stuff is obviously
Speaker 1: like satirical. You know, I don't really think it's a
Speaker 1: government testing of light bars for people who knowme mid
Speaker 1: nineties x je jeeves. But I do think it's kind
Speaker 1: of funny that that's an area known for testing things.
Speaker 1: Ye and like the desert, you know, like all the
Speaker 1: Area fifty one government testing space ships and rockets and
Speaker 1: electromagnetic propulsion or whatever.
Speaker 2: Well, as you get in that direction, I mean, you
Speaker 2: go much further, and you go a little bit further south,
Speaker 2: then you're actually pretty close to Area fifty one exactly.
Speaker 1: So that's why I put out weird dumb logic, not logic,
Speaker 1: we're testing light bars for jeep people.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Oh sure, Now you've got to explain yourself for your
Speaker 2: weird says.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll explain myself right now. I owned what nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety three XG with a light bar on. It had
Speaker 1: random liner on the bottom half, and it was painted
Speaker 1: tan and gray.
Speaker 2: Mostly one of the top of these cars ever made.
Speaker 1: It's a n A body, which is a terrible design
Speaker 1: for a car. Front solid accis stupid.
Speaker 2: Speaking of you, Tobody, I asked her more about the
Speaker 2: structure of the UFO. Do you want to hear about it?
Speaker 1: No, but I'm super interested in how you type that
Speaker 1: into our conversation.
Speaker 2: Well, let's get back to her and you'll find out.
Speaker 2: All right, cold get.
Speaker 4: Like I say, my husband was just his whole life
Speaker 4: even after this, we were always watching this guy or whatever,
Speaker 4: and he'd be so disappointed because we never see anything.
Speaker 2: You know, would you say, this is like like four
Speaker 2: feet off the ground, six feet off the ground ten
Speaker 2: people probably as high as this room, so seven eight
Speaker 2: feet maybe, yeah, just down there.
Speaker 5: Looking at it. Well, actually it was probably a little
Speaker 5: lower in that because I could see it better than
Speaker 5: you know, if I was looking up here. It was
Speaker 5: more like half of this room.
Speaker 2: I could see, you know, the bottom. The bottom didn't
Speaker 2: have anyth No, it.
Speaker 5: Turned all the way around this. You could see there
Speaker 5: was nothing under there.
Speaker 2: See seams on the on the bottomer side, like wellan
Speaker 2: seams or anything.
Speaker 5: I'd look for that. No, I couldn't see anything.
Speaker 2: So it was like one piece.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, huh. But I'm sure these were all
Speaker 5: the lights. People see lights, bright lights.
Speaker 4: This guy and this would be what it is, right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: it would have been right, but they weren't on because
Speaker 4: eleven o'clock in the daytime, you know. And and the
Speaker 4: thing is is my husband turned it was wrong with
Speaker 4: those people like Wave, you know, they big trucks and things.
Speaker 4: Nobody paid any attention.
Speaker 2: Nobody would stop.
Speaker 5: Nobody stopped.
Speaker 2: It's almost like they didn't see it.
Speaker 1: Or something like.
Speaker 4: That's what KEI said. I said, I can't imagine. He said, well,
Speaker 4: sometimes you are the only one men to see this,
Speaker 4: you know. Yeah, And I have been so disappointed all
Speaker 4: my life as I couldn't tell it. I mean, I
Speaker 4: feel like I agree to tell you, but you had
Speaker 4: to be so careful who you would talk to. Uh.
Speaker 4: We've had other friends we told to, but no reaction
Speaker 4: was however, so this really makes me feel good that
Speaker 4: I can tell you about it.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm so glad you told us, because I think
Speaker 2: there are a lot of people like you that have
Speaker 2: seen things and for the same reasons, they don't say much.
Speaker 2: And so what part of our podcast is We want
Speaker 2: people to feel free to give us their stories, and
Speaker 2: if people want to remain anonymous, we won't even use
Speaker 2: their real names. We'll just keep them so that they
Speaker 2: don't have to worry about that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: Well I don't worry about because it's the truth. But
Speaker 4: there's so many word people out there. I don't want
Speaker 4: anything like that. But it also is like a hovercraft,
Speaker 4: you know, just hovering, no sound, just like a fan,
Speaker 4: and it wasn't a loud sound. It was just a
Speaker 4: quiet fan sound.
Speaker 2: It's a levitating object. And so do you think it
Speaker 2: was piloted or do you think it was like a
Speaker 2: remote controlled or well.
Speaker 4: They didn't have that at that time, you know. But
Speaker 4: now since they've come out with this with this drones,
Speaker 4: who over they are? I wonder if that was it
Speaker 4: was like a drone, But if it wasn't, if it
Speaker 4: was piloted, they had to be very small because it
Speaker 4: was not that tall. My hasn't I both discussed that
Speaker 4: if they were in there, they had to be able
Speaker 4: to see out because there's no wind, childer or nothing
Speaker 4: like that, and they had to to be small, two
Speaker 4: or three feet tall, three four si tall like that.
Speaker 4: So yeah, Yeah, a regular person, regular heights would not
Speaker 4: have been in there. So, but we didn't know about
Speaker 4: drones at this time. Yeah, so since then I wonder
Speaker 4: if that was operated by a drone, but it had
Speaker 4: to be from uf above then somebody, yeah, offer from
Speaker 4: and we also they do a lot of extremining in Utah,
Speaker 4: right and uh. We talked to his uncle and had
Speaker 4: who we stayed with them there and told them about it.
Speaker 4: They weren't surprised at all because they said people are
Speaker 4: seen these things out.
Speaker 5: There all the time.
Speaker 4: This is never nothing's ever come out. We've never seen
Speaker 4: anything like this. So when we told them, they weren't
Speaker 4: surprised at all. They believed it because they said people
Speaker 4: going across there all the time see these flying saucers
Speaker 4: all the time, and so from Utah. So we showed
Speaker 4: him and he was he was not at all surprised,
Speaker 4: not at all.
Speaker 2: Well, I suppose, I think, thank you for sharing it
Speaker 2: with hisself.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad I could talk to somebody that appreciates him.
Speaker 4: But the surprising thing is quiet. You think that big
Speaker 4: would be a loud noise of something that you had
Speaker 4: to really be quiet to hear it.
Speaker 2: When you saw it moving towards you from the distance.
Speaker 2: How fast do you think it was moving towards you.
Speaker 5: Well, we felt like a helicopter coming through. It must
Speaker 5: have came.
Speaker 4: Fairly fast, because as soon as we've seen it, it
Speaker 4: hadn't been very long that we could see it wasn't
Speaker 4: a helicopter. This was these are like fifteen miles about,
Speaker 4: you know, and you could just see this little speck
Speaker 4: comes through the mountains and.
Speaker 2: I just oh, here comes your UFO.
Speaker 4: And then it got about halfway children we could see
Speaker 4: it wasn't a helicopter.
Speaker 5: And that's when my husband flowed over.
Speaker 2: So we moved towards you really rapidly, slowed down, Yeah,
Speaker 2: spun around, and then took off very slow, very slow,
Speaker 2: over the over the bushes or trees or shrubs or whatever.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just fairly above them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you lost sight of it after that. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't know whether we were excited getting the car
Speaker 4: to see if we'd been taken or whatever, but when
Speaker 4: we looked back we couldn't see it.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 5: Good, I maybe six years old, so thank god I
Speaker 5: could remember that much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome. That's awesome.
Speaker 5: So I could tell somebody.
Speaker 2: Me too, yeah, so that's a pretty cool story. I
Speaker 2: like the way at the end there she kind of
Speaker 2: talks about some of the frustration about telling people, and
Speaker 2: then she also talks about how she was aware that
Speaker 2: other people were seeing weird UFO type things in that area,
Speaker 2: and that she had the friends that were fully aware
Speaker 2: that a lot of UFOs were being seen in that
Speaker 2: same stretch of highway heading towards the Nevada border.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I just cousin or brother in law
Speaker 3: or something that, yeah, yeah, area, and he knows. You know,
Speaker 3: people see that stuff a lot around there, but nothing
Speaker 3: like that, nothing like that, and in the daylight.
Speaker 1: The daytime was kind of a cool thing, because that's
Speaker 1: not something here in UFO or that often.
Speaker 2: I asked that one question specifically for you about could
Speaker 2: she see any seams or anything on the craft? And
Speaker 2: she couldn't, And so I wondered, you know, if it
Speaker 2: was some kind of different kind of alloy or kind
Speaker 2: of composite material, you know, because it didn't have seems
Speaker 2: to me just doesn't say metal.
Speaker 1: I think I have to be seen or you know,
Speaker 1: like yeah, well ground shit, you know that kind of
Speaker 1: thing which you do see, but a big thing in airplanes,
Speaker 1: even like the SR seventy one Blackbird was designed so
Speaker 1: that the actual panels on the airplane would expand with
Speaker 1: the heat that it was taking with its speed and
Speaker 1: its altitude, And it was the panels that were used in.
Speaker 3: The airplane was actually taken into account to.
Speaker 1: Have one solid piece of like you would in your car,
Speaker 1: although your car has a lot more scenes than you think. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I thought it was super cool that you hear a
Speaker 1: right in the background a lot in that last few minutes.
Speaker 1: She jumps in there and says drone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she actually was there and had said a few
Speaker 2: more things. I cut most of it out at her request.
Speaker 2: So yeah, she was my co speaker cocoin.
Speaker 3: So all you're saying is she's only good for popcorn.
Speaker 2: Well popcorn, and she's stealthy and behind the scenes kind
Speaker 2: of person.
Speaker 3: She's a sneaky popcord in India.
Speaker 2: Yep, she is. Anyway, that was a cool story, wasn't it.
Speaker 1: It was a great story and I really liked it.
Speaker 1: She second guests herself, and I don't believe that like
Speaker 1: a negative thing. I think it's cool that she's trying
Speaker 1: to remember. It actually sounds as though she experienced.
Speaker 2: This well, I can tell you as a person that
Speaker 2: was there with her, she just dripped integrity. She wasn't
Speaker 2: making things up, She wasn't like going for sensationalism. She
Speaker 2: was very real. I believe what she said now. She's
Speaker 2: the first one to say that she didn't know what
Speaker 2: it was. Could have been man made, could have been
Speaker 2: a drone, could have been something. But she was aware
Speaker 2: that some people, when they experience this stuff, would like
Speaker 2: they be taken and experimented on. She was nervous that
Speaker 2: that had happened to them, but it had, so that
Speaker 2: was good. Her husband did not experience any kind of
Speaker 2: weird probing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good. There are only a few people on
Speaker 3: this earth that I wish probing upon.
Speaker 2: Polly sixty four or whatever name is.
Speaker 1: No, no, no.
Speaker 3: Talking about ten Bundy.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, just a lady or.
Speaker 3: Who doesn't like her podcasts. That's fine. I don't blame her.
Speaker 2: It to be her probe doesn't mean you won't like it,
Speaker 2: that's true, you know what.
Speaker 1: I take it back. I hope Polly, whatever parent experiences
Speaker 1: whatever it likes the right kind of long as long
Speaker 1: as as the best seventeen minutes someone's life.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, we might elaborate a little more on some
Speaker 2: of these strange uf OH encounters in the upcoming episodes.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It was good to kind of do
Speaker 2: this remotely for a change.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little rough on the headset and the computer. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's not my realm at all.
Speaker 2: There's a little bit of lag if you can't.
Speaker 3: Hit something to make it work. I don't know, kind
Speaker 3: of make it work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I questions for you though, So you already answered
Speaker 1: the question of have you ever seen a flying saucer
Speaker 1: or UFO?
Speaker 3: Yeah? What are your impressions of Jane Doe?
Speaker 2: My impressions of Jane Doe? I wish she was my grandmother.
Speaker 2: I think she is an awesome person. But yeah, a
Speaker 2: great lady, actually great place. Her son, Mike was a
Speaker 2: stand up guy. You can tell he loves her to death.
Speaker 2: And she still goes in there and works at this
Speaker 2: little little mattress shop. So she's active. Sharp's attack. I
Speaker 2: can't take good enough things about her. Just really appreciate
Speaker 2: that she sat down and talked to me and trusted
Speaker 2: me enough to tell her story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: So I got a question for you Austin. What would
Speaker 2: you do if you saw a UFO? Would it weird
Speaker 2: you out? Would you be excited, want to go investigate?
Speaker 2: Would you worry about a loss of time or some
Speaker 2: kind of probing? I mean, what would be your reaction?
Speaker 2: Do you think?
Speaker 1: I think it depends on the experience. So if it
Speaker 1: was like Jane Doe's experience, I'd probably be a little
Speaker 1: more concerned about my safety. And I, you know, do
Speaker 1: I have some weird foreign objects inside my body? But
Speaker 1: you know, I've seen weird things before, and in those situations,
Speaker 1: it's like I'm more of a like, let's step back
Speaker 1: and take a logical look at what happened and what's
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 2: If you had to make an assessment on what she
Speaker 2: saw that it was real, but you had to make
Speaker 2: a guess as to what it was as if it
Speaker 2: was like human origin, or if it was alien technology
Speaker 2: or what, what would you think it would be?
Speaker 1: My ultimate guess is that it's Well, there's kind of
Speaker 1: three courts that I play. So one, it's human made.
Speaker 1: It's a government testing thing. Because of the location, that's
Speaker 1: a perfect location.
Speaker 3: For stuff like that.
Speaker 1: It's big, it's open, you can crash something and go
Speaker 1: pick it up before munch of rednecks find it and
Speaker 1: make a news article out of it. Also, alien sightings
Speaker 1: and stuff have then more common in that area and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So we've got government you know, human
Speaker 1: testing stuff, we got actual alien mischief. And then lastly,
Speaker 1: I wonder if it's a little bit of just interaction
Speaker 1: between like misinterpretation and actual.
Speaker 3: Stuff that we see every day.
Speaker 1: Who knows that it was a cropt us are just
Speaker 1: busting some field that they didn't realize they were next to.
Speaker 1: It's a bright light, it's an airplane, it's whizzen by,
Speaker 1: and it didn't happen at the same rate.
Speaker 2: I thought it was really interesting that she and her
Speaker 2: husband both commented at the time they couldn't figure out
Speaker 2: why people weren't pulling over and stopping and noticing this thing.
Speaker 2: It was like, you know, it was just a few
Speaker 2: yards off of the freeway, maybe you know, maybe one
Speaker 2: hundred yards, but it was close enough that people could
Speaker 2: obviously see it, and that it was floating, you know,
Speaker 2: four or five feet off the ground, levitating and slowly rotating.
Speaker 2: And Nope, they didn't stop or act like they noticed.
Speaker 2: You know, I got wondering about that, And I was
Speaker 2: thinking if I was driving down the road and I
Speaker 2: just looked over and I saw a car park and
Speaker 2: two people out looking at this thing slowly rotating, I
Speaker 2: might not stop either. I probably just think something weird
Speaker 2: was going on and not really pay attention. Oh no,
Speaker 2: the bro So yeah, how would they know if it's
Speaker 2: not connected to the ground.
Speaker 3: I wonder too, like what was the rate at which
Speaker 3: certain psychedelic mushrooms or I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: I think that's where you and I am very like
Speaker 1: different a lot, is it. I'm always a little more like,
Speaker 1: well maybe it was this or that, or you're crazy,
Speaker 1: and I think you're a little more.
Speaker 2: I don't want to believe. I think you're the box
Speaker 2: molder to my scully. Yeah, hey, you know, I would
Speaker 2: love to do an episode about talking about prions, cattle mulations,
Speaker 2: and UFOs, the connection between those. That might be something
Speaker 2: we could do. What crustacean is that prions are like
Speaker 2: these protein folded protein things that can be replicated and
Speaker 2: basically destroys your brain. So cow disease Alzheimer's are it
Speaker 2: can be found in almost any animal. It's just a
Speaker 2: weird thing. And and I'd heard some of this before
Speaker 2: when we did our podcast on cattle mutulations. But this, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's another story of something we should cover because it
Speaker 2: is a strange thing.
Speaker 3: You want to hear my another something we should cover.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I have a good, good, good, good, good good friend.
Speaker 1: He lives in the east in PENNSYLVANCKI. Yeah, and he
Speaker 1: just went on like some of their crazy uh paranormal
Speaker 1: investigation to her, and he's given me some intel about
Speaker 1: some of the nonsensical ghost mischief.
Speaker 3: He's an encounter, So that is I think.
Speaker 1: I think it'd be fun to have an episode where
Speaker 1: we talked with him and his experiences significant other about
Speaker 1: their experiences getting molested by various and not so friendly ghosts.
Speaker 2: The various creatures. Yeah, that great. You know, it is
Speaker 2: almost Halloween. We should do a Halloween special.
Speaker 1: The fall is terrible because I've got my hunting trips
Speaker 1: and Halloween and Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3: Plus both my boys are born in November.
Speaker 1: It's hard to get into a time where we can
Speaker 1: just sit back and knock out some podcasts.
Speaker 3: Plus you're super busy.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we might have to do a few more
Speaker 2: of these online things. We'll get better at it, so
Speaker 2: hopefully that'll make it a little less painful, but we'll
Speaker 2: see what we can salvage out of these episodes. Hopefully
Speaker 2: you don't have to do it all the time, but hey,
Speaker 2: I'm thankful we get to hang out even virtually and
Speaker 2: try to talk about strange things fun.
Speaker 1: I think this is just an awesome episode. You know,
Speaker 1: hearing this lady sorry, and you know, hearing her conviction
Speaker 1: and her voice.
Speaker 2: Was pretty awesome.
Speaker 1: Ye know, I'm a little skeptical everything. It seems like
Speaker 1: I believe she seems to believe exactly what she saw.
Speaker 1: So whether that's government misinformation or something along those lines
Speaker 1: or whatever, it is still a compone story where somebody
Speaker 1: saw something that we had an actual experience with something
Speaker 1: we can't explain.
Speaker 2: I agree. Well, Hey, I'm about ready to fall asleep
Speaker 2: because I'm tired. I've been really busy. You got to
Speaker 2: get to go to work heavy. My eyes are I
Speaker 2: can't hardly keep them open.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you need to work out your eyelids. I've got
Speaker 1: a good workout program for your islands. Anyway, guys, join
Speaker 1: us next time for my daddy not being so sleepy
Speaker 1: and some cold drinks and some strange conversations.
Speaker 2: Sounds good. Da Secretive