Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Shade Prime. It's very pain here.
Speaker 1: I've got my buddy, Chris DeRosa a fixing famous people.
Speaker 2: Chris another another one to quote to quote DJ Khaled
Speaker 2: another one. You love to make me watch these things
Speaker 2: about these Charlatan people, and I'm happy to do it.
Speaker 1: I didn't know this was gonna be about a Charlatan.
Speaker 1: In my mind, I was like, you know what, I
Speaker 1: believe in their love.
Speaker 2: And then come on, come on, come on, you can't
Speaker 2: say that you believed it.
Speaker 1: Well, when I watched it, I was like, hmm, okay,
Speaker 1: you know what, Maybe who am I to judge?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And then I was thinking, last night, I wonder what
Speaker 1: Chris is gonna say. Is he gonna say, who are
Speaker 1: we to judge? Maybe they have an unconventional marriage. But
Speaker 1: then as I laid down earlier, trying to take a
Speaker 1: little nap before we did this, because I woke up
Speaker 1: early to take the dogs to the groomer, and then
Speaker 1: you had to like push, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: was just gonna I'm gonna take a little nap. I
Speaker 1: started thinking, what's wrong with me? What this guy? Wow,
Speaker 1: he has really bamboozled this woman.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the.
Speaker 2: Norway And yes, they do have an unconventional marriage. Is
Speaker 2: that what they're calling it these days?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, he it's interesting, right. So this is Rebel
Speaker 1: Royals on Netflix, guys, and this is about the love story,
Speaker 1: nay marriage of a Princess Marta of Norway and shaman
Speaker 1: Derrick born Derek Verrett.
Speaker 2: Not born Derek. Don't tell me that right away, Oh, brother,
Speaker 2: here we go.
Speaker 1: Derek David Verrett changed his name to Shaman Derick Verrett
Speaker 1: at some point. Yeah. Interesting, So you know, by the
Speaker 1: whole thing is Marta, she's fifty four, she's got nothing
Speaker 1: to lose, she's fourth in line to the throne. Who
Speaker 1: gives a shit? You know? Yeah, she decided she could
Speaker 1: talk to angels at some point, and somebody suggested she
Speaker 1: meet this guy, and they decided they'd formerly been the
Speaker 1: king of King of Egypt, so why not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when we saw each other, we knew that. Like
Speaker 2: it's everything that they do is just so blatantly obviously
Speaker 2: a lie. It's just so funny that it's like this
Speaker 2: is the Okay, here's why this person is a Charlotte,
Speaker 2: no matter he even if he is a medium. I
Speaker 2: have a friend that's a medium, Like I believe in this,
Speaker 2: Like I talk I believe the medium. I talk to
Speaker 2: dead celebrities on my Patreon all the time. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: believe that this exists. Like just let's go start there, Okay,
Speaker 2: But when you start being like, oh, well, like we
Speaker 2: were in a past life together, so blah blah, it's
Speaker 2: like no one can verify that. No one can, like
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? There's a part of
Speaker 2: it where like that all these things where it's like
Speaker 2: and then I'm doing this kind of work, and I'm
Speaker 2: doing this kind of work, and then the fact that
Speaker 2: it's just like there's seventy different kinds of like spiritual
Speaker 2: work that he's doing is I'm raising an eyebrow immediately,
Speaker 2: even if I believe that they're real.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying, Like, well, I raised
Speaker 1: an eyebrow when he said he was previously homosexual but
Speaker 1: now he's soul sexual.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: I'm just you know, I just it's not that I've
Speaker 1: never heard of that, because there's Chris I'm very old,
Speaker 1: and new types of sexualities every day, and I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to roll with it.
Speaker 2: You know, and like what like soul sexual great, got it? Understand,
Speaker 2: no skin off my nose, as they say, you know what.
Speaker 1: I mean, doesn't affect me. Go ahead, I don't care.
Speaker 1: But you know, he claims he's a third or sixth
Speaker 1: depending on which article you read, generation shaman. His dad
Speaker 1: was an architect, so you.
Speaker 2: Know where, yeah, could we get some could we get
Speaker 2: some generations happening? One of my notes is, why is
Speaker 2: direct sister showing up a full forty minutes into this documentary?
Speaker 2: Why are we not seeing his like growing up story
Speaker 2: at the beginning.
Speaker 1: I think that for what I read on Wikipedia, which
Speaker 1: is just bountiful. It's he has said lots of different
Speaker 1: stories about his you know, he grew up you know, wealthy.
Speaker 1: His dad had a plane, they had staff. And then
Speaker 1: the family's like, no, it was fine. We definitely didn't
Speaker 1: have a plane. We definitely didn't have staff. I don't
Speaker 1: know where this third or sixth generation as shaman comes
Speaker 1: through since dad was an architect, Like, uh huh.
Speaker 2: No way again, this person can just make up whatever
Speaker 2: lie that they want, and I must come down on
Speaker 2: the documentarians. They did not try to verify any of
Speaker 2: these things. They heard fourth generation Shaman and there was no.
Speaker 2: Not one person was like like I need the footage,
Speaker 2: even if they think that they're not rolling, that they're
Speaker 2: secretly rolling on him and being like, so, who was
Speaker 2: was your father a shaman? Or was your grandfather a shaman?
Speaker 2: What were there mes? Blah blah, and have him like
Speaker 2: tell us what they are or like we watch him
Speaker 2: like squirm out of it, or if he says something
Speaker 2: less like be like there's no VERI viable proof that
Speaker 2: this person's a shot, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But also then he would just start speaking in that
Speaker 1: in tongues and then you would be like, okay, he's
Speaker 1: speaking in an ancient and we don't know, we don't
Speaker 1: know that agage.
Speaker 2: They were like too afraid of him in this documentary.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense?
Speaker 1: Did they pay for this documentary? This is my question.
Speaker 1: They might have they funded it themselves because.
Speaker 2: It's or it was like access based and they were
Speaker 2: like we'll let you be because like they're they're like
Speaker 2: at the wedding, like you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 2: they probably found some documentary that's like I want to
Speaker 2: you know, I want to like do a documentary about
Speaker 2: you two, and they're like, okay, well you can come
Speaker 2: to our wedding and you can like film it for free.
Speaker 2: But then it's it's like if they don't want to
Speaker 2: do it anymore, then that the documentary's over, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. Like if they're like, no, we're not
Speaker 2: doing this, if we're starting to catch him in too
Speaker 2: many lies and him saying like no, then they don't
Speaker 2: have it. Then the person doesn't have a documentary, and
Speaker 2: so they're like letting it go, which is wrong, by
Speaker 2: the way, like you should be not afraid of your subject,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: By the way, he claims he became a shaman, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, if it was generational, it seems like
Speaker 1: that's how it. But anyway, he claims he became a
Speaker 1: shaman in La or the Jungles of Brazil. There's just
Speaker 1: two different.
Speaker 2: Wait sure, who's too? I mean those two places are
Speaker 2: confused all the time, right. He also, when you go
Speaker 2: to La, aren't you like am I in Brazil? And
Speaker 2: look around and see.
Speaker 1: Right, it's so similar. He also said he worked in
Speaker 1: a children's hospital in Israel, healing the children there with
Speaker 1: his shaman, and those people there rather they're like you no, no, no,
Speaker 1: never seen him, don't know him, so I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you some other controversial things that he said. So he
Speaker 1: says that casual sex attracts subterranean spirits to make an
Speaker 1: impression on the inside of women's vaginas, so he sells
Speaker 1: exercises to clean out these vaginas.
Speaker 2: Are those exercises his penis could be?
Speaker 1: Could be?
Speaker 2: Because oh yeah, but he's like gay, so he wouldn't
Speaker 2: want to do that.
Speaker 1: He says he can turn adams to help people reduce
Speaker 1: their age and uh. A major newspaper Dog and blot
Speaker 1: It described his book as the ratings of a lunatic.
Speaker 1: So he has had things like, you know, chemotherapy is
Speaker 1: only for people to make money. And he also has
Speaker 1: said that children that get cancer get it because they
Speaker 1: want it.
Speaker 2: That's terrible, Yeah, terrible. Well but yeah, yes, But then
Speaker 2: the minute he needs to go on dialysis for sympathy,
Speaker 2: he's like, right.
Speaker 1: There isn't it And he can't cure that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, can't cure that. Nope. Yeah. That's what's so
Speaker 2: funny is that he's a guy like lay hands on
Speaker 2: people and they like are the blind can see and
Speaker 2: the lame can walk? But then like whenever he's like, oh,
Speaker 2: I was like an alcoholic and destroyed my liver, and
Speaker 2: my sister had to give me half of her liver.
Speaker 2: And now that liver has been destroyed. Why yeah, by
Speaker 2: the way, why it was just rejecting it quote unquote,
Speaker 2: which again I have no oh idea how liver transplants
Speaker 2: work at all. But like that story doesn't seem to
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Speaker 1: did I miss? Are we talking about liver? Are we
Speaker 1: talking about kidney?
Speaker 2: Or were talking about was it a kidney? Oh? Was
Speaker 2: it a kidney?
Speaker 1: Dialysis is for kidney.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, No, you're right, it was a kidney.
Speaker 2: I'm saying liver.
Speaker 1: But regardless, regardless, He said that his sister gave him
Speaker 1: a kidney and his body rejected it because they usually
Speaker 1: wear out after about ten years. I haven't heard that.
Speaker 1: But again, nothing for whatever.
Speaker 2: One time.
Speaker 1: How Selena Gomez is kidney doing?
Speaker 2: She got to know she's great. She's doing great. She
Speaker 2: had a wedding that was a long time ago and
Speaker 2: she Yeah. So.
Speaker 1: He also has advised parents to speak directly and loudly
Speaker 1: at troubled and aggressive children, commanding the dark spirits to
Speaker 1: come to light and uh. Many observers consider his parenting
Speaker 1: advice to be harmful encouragement of exorcism.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I okay, here's that's the thing that we need
Speaker 2: to I would love to happen in the world. Okay,
Speaker 2: is that like just because some lunatic says this that
Speaker 2: you this is what you should do, doesn't mean you
Speaker 2: should do it. True, Like, why are we listening to
Speaker 2: this man who has no like like make credentials reel again?
Speaker 2: Is my that's my.
Speaker 1: Ion like to see them, we'd like to see them.
Speaker 2: Like the charlatan that like gave a gave a vaginal
Speaker 2: egg get to Gwyneth Paltrow one time doesn't mean anything,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like that's the and that's
Speaker 2: the problem. And it's sad because there are a lot
Speaker 2: of people that are healers, and there's a lot of
Speaker 2: people that do spiritual work that like do make a
Speaker 2: difference in the world. And it's like sad that they
Speaker 2: have to be in like they're seen as peers to
Speaker 2: like this charlatan person who's just gonna say whatever he
Speaker 2: wants and whatever he needs to say in order to
Speaker 2: get money, power, fame, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Well, it won't surprise you that nineteen ninety one he
Speaker 1: was in prison Felony Arson.
Speaker 2: Oh god, Okay, he had.
Speaker 1: Like a house part and then the house got set
Speaker 1: on fire and burned to the ground. But nobody mind. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that was when he was a model and an
Speaker 1: actor before he was a sixth generation shaman.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yea yeah. It's also well, it's also
Speaker 2: funny because like you go to New York, you're a
Speaker 2: model and an actor in the nineties, going to studio
Speaker 2: like you know, going to like the dregs of Studio
Speaker 2: fifty four and like going into the I'm sure like
Speaker 2: the drag bars and all. That's like like he was
Speaker 2: like perfectly primed to be that he was. I mean
Speaker 2: he is very very handsome and very handsome, and like
Speaker 2: when he saw those modeling pictures, you're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: they were the boys were eating you up in the nineties.
Speaker 2: I'm sure yes, And so him doing that, it's like,
Speaker 2: of course, that's when you were in New York. That's
Speaker 2: exactly what you did because that's what everyone was doing.
Speaker 2: And then the second that he moves to LA he
Speaker 2: becomes a shaman and just out of no way, he's
Speaker 2: a sixth generation shaman because everyone in LA is like
Speaker 2: just one degree away from a shaman in some way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, you know he so he's been with
Speaker 1: Martis's twenty eighteen, but twenty twenty two he started selling
Speaker 1: a medallion that claimed cured COVID nineteen. It seems to
Speaker 1: me he's like two years late on that, since COVID
Speaker 1: nineteen was between twenty eight. It's still on his website.
Speaker 1: The Norwegian government like told him like, we don't like
Speaker 1: you got to stop, like no, So then he started
Speaker 1: selling another product that he claimed could cure dogs of
Speaker 1: various ailments that now the Norwegian veterinary society had to
Speaker 1: come out and be like no, Noll and.
Speaker 2: I love well, that's what's funny. Whenever I saw the
Speaker 2: medallion that cures COVID, I was like checked out from
Speaker 2: the reft. For the rest of them. At their wedding,
Speaker 2: I was like not even watching like I was listening that.
Speaker 2: I was like, I have to do other things now.
Speaker 2: I can't give this person more of my time. I
Speaker 2: just simply can't, like I have to like go fold
Speaker 2: my laundry because that because folding my underwear was more
Speaker 2: important than seeing their wedding. After seeing that, he's being
Speaker 2: just a grifter and then has the unmitigated goal to
Speaker 2: be like I don't know why all of the press
Speaker 2: like hate me so much, like they always come after
Speaker 2: me no matter what, and it's like, yeah, because you're
Speaker 2: a fucking pyramid scheme grifter.
Speaker 1: Yes, sorry, it's crazy now. It also won't surprise you
Speaker 1: to know that between two thousand and seven and twenty
Speaker 1: fifteen he had a fiance, a masour named Hank Greenberg.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I need it. What did he look like?
Speaker 2: Did you find him? Now? Let's see Greenberg.
Speaker 1: Hank Greenberg engaged to Dirk Verret nay Derek Verrett. So
Speaker 1: he was with Hank when they started an Indiegogo crowdfunding
Speaker 1: pace to raise money for his kidney transplant, in which
Speaker 1: they stated that, uh, Derek is HIV positive. So that's
Speaker 1: an interesting old twisteroo for.
Speaker 2: The Royal Wait, Derek is uh huh?
Speaker 1: When they when they did the crowdfunding to raise money
Speaker 1: for his kidney plants transplant, they said he's HIV positive. Now,
Speaker 1: it'll also not surprise you that in twenty nineteen, Greenberg
Speaker 1: described his true nature vera It's true nature is manipulative
Speaker 1: and dangerous. As stated, Verrett has brainwashed cults of followers.
Speaker 2: I know. That's the thing is, like I need the
Speaker 2: like I didn't see we did a good job of
Speaker 2: not really seeing like cult people like they like we
Speaker 2: didn't be.
Speaker 1: In her circle in a room, but not like hundreds.
Speaker 2: But that was like one. But that was like one thing,
Speaker 2: and that was like, Okay, he's doing like a little
Speaker 2: class whatever, but like I would love to see if
Speaker 2: there's like hundreds. That was one thing I was like.
Speaker 2: I was like, I wonder if he has like a
Speaker 2: bunch of followers or not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean, Gwyneth Paltrow, she can get you
Speaker 1: on board.
Speaker 2: But if that, he probably like begged her to take
Speaker 2: a photo with him, and now he says that like
Speaker 2: there they work together. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. Like he was like, I'm like, and she's like, oh,
Speaker 2: are you my makeup artist? Okay, great, here, like take
Speaker 2: a picture with me.
Speaker 1: Do you know what? Here's another something interesting. On the
Speaker 1: same day the documentary came out a forty six minute
Speaker 1: recording surface, which were these voicemails that we heard a
Speaker 1: little bit. But do you know when he's doing these
Speaker 1: voicemails and he's saying like, whoops, accidentally suck that guy's dick.
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't need to, but it happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah there.
Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes it happens in there and you just
Speaker 1: suck an dick.
Speaker 2: I wish I was joking, but go ahead, do you.
Speaker 1: Know, are you ready for your mind to people? And
Speaker 1: who these messages were too? Who he was talking to
Speaker 1: on these messages.
Speaker 2: I'm so nervous.
Speaker 1: Eric Niece, Real World Season one?
Speaker 2: What erices?
Speaker 1: Those are? Who the messages were too that were lated?
Speaker 1: MTV star Eric Nice Niece Nice? Probably yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: you know who he is, the hotty.
Speaker 2: Jump rope one that I was like in love with
Speaker 2: when I was a kid.
Speaker 1: Eric was so he was on season one Real World.
Speaker 1: It's hot. He was a model and he'd come to
Speaker 1: New York to be a model, And now he too
Speaker 1: is some sort of alsd.
Speaker 2: Here we go, I see it. Yeah, Eric, So.
Speaker 1: He's probably like my age ish.
Speaker 2: Back in the day, he was so fucking so hot,
Speaker 2: like so hot, and.
Speaker 1: He hosted a couple of things on MTV and yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah he had this, Yeah he had this like jump
Speaker 1: rope challenge or whatever. Sure, yeah he was all fitness.
Speaker 1: But now he just he himself is sort of a
Speaker 1: shaman like you go and Yahuasca.
Speaker 2: See it, I'm looking at it right now. He's in
Speaker 2: like a cross legged pose with like chakras and like yeah, oh, brother.
Speaker 2: Oh so he's like, he's like, I did suck some
Speaker 2: guys dick and would do it again. Wink Eric, that's
Speaker 2: what was happening there is it not? Which he has
Speaker 2: no shade. I would say, like same.
Speaker 1: Eric's pretty hot.
Speaker 2: I would accidentally do that too, but.
Speaker 1: In an accident, I just said I'm not gonna do it.
Speaker 1: And then next thing I know, sorry, yeah.
Speaker 2: Like Upsi's but like that's that's the other thing is
Speaker 2: oh god, oh god? And how did someone get them
Speaker 2: from Eric?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I can't imagine Eric would break
Speaker 1: his shopping code to do such a what do you so?
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about when they sold the rights
Speaker 1: of their wedding to Hello magazine. So the reason this
Speaker 1: was such a big deal because in Norway they're not
Speaker 1: allowed at all to do any commercialization of their name. Nothing.
Speaker 1: Anything has to be all public, you know. And they
Speaker 1: after the documentary came out, the Norwegians, you know, we're
Speaker 1: just very quiet, nice people. They're not like the Brits.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna just dissect you with their words. They say,
Speaker 1: the Royal House wants a clearer distinction between the activities.
Speaker 1: Princess Marta and Derek and the Royal House. This will
Speaker 1: be the top of conversations in the future. Like they're
Speaker 1: just like just gonna just gonna pretend like we don't
Speaker 1: know them, and.
Speaker 2: Well that's yeah, that's such a funny, is that. Like
Speaker 2: they don't say, like I never hear from the two
Speaker 2: of them that like they did something that was against
Speaker 2: the protocol of the crown, which like I'd be like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: like you're modern and you don't want to do it,
Speaker 2: Like I understand that, and we've already been through that
Speaker 2: on a much larger scale with Megan and Harry, and
Speaker 2: so yeah, we know, like yeah, like yes, we get it.
Speaker 2: But like they're like, and I don't know why they
Speaker 2: would do this to us, Like it must be because
Speaker 2: my parents don't love me, you know, And I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: it's because like you clearly are doing something that you're
Speaker 2: not allowed to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But they haven't just like disowned her or anything.
Speaker 1: They're just sort of like, yeah, we're all still family
Speaker 1: and it's fine, but we'd like no.
Speaker 2: But they took it like her hrh away, which is
Speaker 2: big because that is that she probably can't get much
Speaker 2: like she had to go sell those photos because she
Speaker 2: had to pay for that wedding, that wedding, that pay
Speaker 2: for the wedding versus like the tax payers of Norway
Speaker 2: paying for it, which is what would have happened if
Speaker 2: she was just.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the wedding kind of sucked. I mean they made
Speaker 1: it seem like it was gonna be this big deal,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't. It was just like a backyard tent.
Speaker 2: I mean you know, I mean, sure, yeah, and it's
Speaker 2: like and it was this whole thing. And again, isn't
Speaker 2: he on dialysis? Like? Why is he a go I.
Speaker 1: Was wondering about the dial.
Speaker 2: So interesting, Mary Paine, that he could just like go
Speaker 2: be away for like five days in that place and
Speaker 2: not to do dialysis at all was so weird, so weird.
Speaker 1: But did you see our two real housewives that attended
Speaker 1: the wedding. No, Sonia and Cynthia were at the wedding.
Speaker 1: What Yeah, Now I knew Cynthia was there because I
Speaker 1: had heard her speak of it on Jeff Lewis show.
Speaker 2: How does she know these people?
Speaker 1: Cynthia got invited because she had met Shaman Dirk and Sonia.
Speaker 1: I don't know, she just heard there was a party
Speaker 1: and she went.
Speaker 2: Like, I need to text Sonya and be like, tell
Speaker 2: me everything about this party.
Speaker 1: Chris, I cannot believe that you did not notice her
Speaker 1: front row.
Speaker 2: I wasn't. I wasn't whoop whoop who.
Speaker 1: Literally in it.
Speaker 2: Telling you that, Like after I saw the medallion, I
Speaker 2: was like, I can't like give my full attention to
Speaker 2: this anymore because I was so marry.
Speaker 1: Here's where you should pay attention to look for Sonya
Speaker 1: and Cynthia when they're on the boat going in through
Speaker 1: the fewords to the event space, and then at the
Speaker 1: wedding when they at the wedding, Sonya's in the front row.
Speaker 1: And I believe this show Cynthia as well at the
Speaker 1: actual wedding. And then they show Sonya for sure just
Speaker 1: drunken about to take her underwear off dancing to the band.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, not Sonia front row, not the not the
Speaker 2: two Rajas again, like he's such a fame whore. It's
Speaker 2: so funny.
Speaker 1: Exactly where was gonna?
Speaker 2: She doesn't know who he is? Again, she thought he
Speaker 2: was a makeup artist. It was probably Cynthia's makeup artist
Speaker 2: for a whole season of Hoss of Atlanta.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's interesting too, so in Norway. The thing
Speaker 1: that's interesting about this to me, in addition to all
Speaker 1: the other millions of things. So Ingrid, my producers. You know,
Speaker 1: my best friend Ingrid. She's Ingrid. Her family's Norwegian. No surprise.
Speaker 1: She was so happy. She was just on a like
Speaker 1: a twenty day cruise with her parents. They went to Norway,
Speaker 1: and she was like, I could get all the keychains
Speaker 1: and mugs I want with the word Ingrid on it
Speaker 1: everywhere I went. It was just things, you know, the
Speaker 1: Ingrid street. I can get it everywhere. And she was
Speaker 1: talking about how peaceful and calm Norway is and how
Speaker 1: in Norway they because it gets so cold there and
Speaker 1: they encourage people to get out. So they have government
Speaker 1: paid for clubs where you can join a knitting club
Speaker 1: and the government pays for it. They'll pay for all
Speaker 1: your supplies everything, so you'll join a club so you
Speaker 1: get out of your house when it's cold. She's like,
Speaker 1: they just have all these like quiet hobbies that the
Speaker 1: government pays for. It's just such a peaceful, calm place.
Speaker 1: So when you hear about that, and then you hear
Speaker 1: about this and that they're really driven by Johntloven, which
Speaker 1: is this unwritten social code where it is you are
Speaker 1: not to believe you're better than anyone else, you don't
Speaker 1: know more than anybody else. You're not to believe you're
Speaker 1: good at anything or that anyone cares about you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now that's a little harsh, but it's just very different
Speaker 1: than this guy who believes he is better than everyone
Speaker 1: knows everything that he hears about him.
Speaker 2: He believes that he's better than everyone in America, that
Speaker 2: where we all believe that we're better than everyone that
Speaker 2: we walked on the street, like, you know, we're the
Speaker 2: opposite of that in mental anyways. And so it's like
Speaker 2: he already is the tippy tippy top of that horrible
Speaker 2: pyramid to then go him here and be like and
Speaker 2: again it's like there's a part of it where I'm
Speaker 2: like on his side in the sense of like, yeah,
Speaker 2: like you should have individuality and like you have this
Speaker 2: and you have that. But then there's also a part
Speaker 2: where it's like, but you're also marrying into the royal
Speaker 2: family of this country, and so that will govern how
Speaker 2: you move through the world.
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Speaker 1: when people were like, you should meet this princess Marta
Speaker 1: because she's also a talks to angels or whatever, that
Speaker 1: he was like, no, no, no, And I put it
Speaker 1: off for so long because I was like, why would
Speaker 1: I want to meet her? Or do you think he
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, no, uh can I get into a
Speaker 1: royal family? Thank you very much?
Speaker 2: No. He you saw that he was like she was
Speaker 2: like dming me and texting me and email me, like
Speaker 2: she was like chasing after him, and he was like
Speaker 2: not responding to her. And eventually he was like, oh,
Speaker 2: she like will mayor she's in love with me and
Speaker 2: will let me like be a prince? That's a kiss? Please?
Speaker 2: This is what dreams made like miracles happened once in
Speaker 2: a while, like literally the Princess Diaries, that's what he
Speaker 2: like thought he was doing.
Speaker 1: And when she's like, I mean, I'm happy to just
Speaker 1: get married in the backyard, he was like, that's not happening, girl.
Speaker 2: Double snap's we literally double Like it's just like just
Speaker 2: the she's not even there and he's like posing in
Speaker 2: front of like a rack of clothes being like like snap, snap, snap,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It was like America's ex
Speaker 2: HP model so much, every window, so many, so many
Speaker 2: every just the b roll shots of him that they
Speaker 2: get are so good because he's just like you want
Speaker 2: to be on top, like he is doing a challenge,
Speaker 2: like he's in America's Extup Model.
Speaker 1: Like every day of his life, he's tim Gunn. He's
Speaker 1: walking in Where's this Girl Going?
Speaker 2: No? That album? People like like he just is like
Speaker 2: and then the number of times as they're getting ready
Speaker 2: for their their wedding, he's like, who's doing my makeup?
Speaker 1: Like and then the funniest thing, she's like closed the
Speaker 1: curtains because the proparazzi's out there, and they show him
Speaker 1: standing in front of the window in his robe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: open the curtains.
Speaker 2: Wide, literally break the window so that they can get
Speaker 2: a full, a great shot of him.
Speaker 1: It's like, do you think, okay, so MARTA's first husband, Ari,
Speaker 1: the father of her children, did unlive himself after she
Speaker 1: got engaged to this guy, so or he got engaged
Speaker 1: after they got engaged.
Speaker 2: Thought it was before that.
Speaker 1: She was with this guy when ex husband unlived himself.
Speaker 2: Because this is okay. So here's the thing. When they
Speaker 2: were talking about that part of it, I was like
Speaker 2: it was something where like they weren't together anymore, and
Speaker 2: then she started doing this like angel like like this
Speaker 2: like woo woo, like self help like initiative. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: I feel like what we didn't hear is that the
Speaker 2: people in Norway were like, what what the fuck is
Speaker 2: she doing? Like this fucking lunatic And then that was
Speaker 2: like a lot of shame that was brought to the
Speaker 2: family because of her, like trying to do this grift situation.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense? And then I feel like that
Speaker 2: was part of it. But then I mean, it's like
Speaker 2: really sad, it's.
Speaker 1: Very sad, But don't worry. Ari had contacted Derek from
Speaker 1: beyond the.
Speaker 2: Grave, of course he did, of course what of course
Speaker 2: and it and just.
Speaker 1: Said, you know, please you take care of my children.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The fucking piece of this is so.
Speaker 1: Let's see now. Also not surprising, there were accusations of
Speaker 1: manipulating his Instagram account on the lead up to the
Speaker 1: wedding to give a surge of followers, you know, to
Speaker 1: make themselves look more popular. And they say, yeah, like
Speaker 1: people go and look at like what the numbers are
Speaker 1: versus the engagement, and.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, I get more likes on like something
Speaker 2: stupid than you do and you have like nine bajillion followers. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: I got it. Yeah, and I'm no one, by the way,
Speaker 2: like I have no followers. Same.
Speaker 1: And here's here here, here's how I wrap up my
Speaker 1: questions here. The wedding not that great. I've been to
Speaker 1: better weddings. Fine, nobody came in under a blanket.
Speaker 2: I mean that was that was like another level.
Speaker 1: It was like they had to hide it because hello,
Speaker 1: magazine was paying for the rights for the whole thing, and.
Speaker 2: So if they did, yeah, so that's yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: it is true. But again it's like it's that's so funny.
Speaker 1: But the parents were there, and I got to tell you,
Speaker 1: I'm very concerned about dad's mole on his cheek beer.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm concerned about everything there. They are
Speaker 2: like clinging onto life like he he's like here said
Speaker 2: and then it was just like so like when they
Speaker 2: when he talks, like he doesn't even move his mouth.
Speaker 2: It's just like it's like sounds come out. Uh.
Speaker 1: The brother. I also read the brother. At the last
Speaker 1: minute with the Netflix documentary, they had to take out
Speaker 1: several spots of the brother because he, you know, said yes,
Speaker 1: I'll be in it like b roll like in the background. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they have full conversations with him and Dirk or whatever,
Speaker 1: and that when he found.
Speaker 2: Out, it was like he was like, you can't do this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't do that because you can't. First of all,
Speaker 1: they were and they also were not allowed to say
Speaker 1: the word princess on this documentary, at which they said
Speaker 1: they clocked it it every three minutes that they said it.
Speaker 2: They weren't allowed to say princess. Why not? Isn't she
Speaker 2: a princess?
Speaker 1: I guess they're because they not allowed to say it
Speaker 1: because it's for commercial.
Speaker 2: Because she's not a prince.
Speaker 1: Understood, Okay, it's for commercial use.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But then but then once she's taken away from
Speaker 2: the HRH. Doesn't that like I'll nullify all of that?
Speaker 2: We don't know, I don't know, That's what I That's
Speaker 2: why I think they did that is because then it's
Speaker 2: like because she's breaking that situation by like having those medallions.
Speaker 1: But okay, but so now she gets some money from
Speaker 1: the Netflix dock and he gets like a couple of
Speaker 1: more bucks for being a shaman. What are they going
Speaker 1: to live on if she's not in norwegianal exact?
Speaker 2: Well, exactly, that's why Megan's out here selling us wine,
Speaker 2: jam and flowers. It's true, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 2: you know, because she's like someone has to work in
Speaker 2: this family, and so like the prince, the princess is
Speaker 2: like how am I gonna the non princess now is
Speaker 2: like how am I going to pay for my wardrobe?
Speaker 2: But how do I pay for my hair and makeup?
Speaker 2: And Direk's hair and makeup? I don't know, I mean,
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah? And also who's going to pay for
Speaker 1: his new kidney that he may or may not need?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, being like this isn't true, Well, my next question
Speaker 1: is are we or are we not worried about his health? Now?
Speaker 1: I think it'd be kind of hard to fake dalysis
Speaker 1: because they did show the machine and everything. Sure, but
Speaker 1: you know what I noticed that I've showed the machine
Speaker 1: to him.
Speaker 2: I've seen worse. Mary Payne, We've seen worse. We've seen Scamanda,
Speaker 2: We've seen this what's this new? And the Unicorn girl
Speaker 2: or whatever the fuck her name is? Oh yeah, I
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Like we've seen these
Speaker 2: happen before where they're like, I'm the girl the Gray's
Speaker 2: Anatomy writer that was like dying from cancer nine million
Speaker 2: times and never had it once.
Speaker 1: Like do you know I have somebody like this that
Speaker 1: I know that has literally gotten like a feeding tube
Speaker 1: and it's like shown it at the doctor, like and
Speaker 1: like all of it fake, fake, fake, but like a
Speaker 1: feeding tube like.
Speaker 2: Gypsy Rose Again, Gypsy Rose, her mom like got her
Speaker 2: all that shit. I'm wanted not to this extent, but
Speaker 2: there was like someone that I went to college with
Speaker 2: that have these stories of like these different men that
Speaker 2: like were lusting after her and like all this stuff,
Speaker 2: and that we just like came to understand that none
Speaker 2: of them were real, and we like kind of searched
Speaker 2: on the internet like we like did our slew thing
Speaker 2: back in the day and just like realized that like
Speaker 2: none of it was real and these people didn't exist,
Speaker 2: and we kind of it was like one of those
Speaker 2: things where it was like this elaborate life that they
Speaker 2: talked about all the time, that was just like this
Speaker 2: doesn't exist, Like neither of these people exist. You're not
Speaker 2: You're not the Bella Bella to like Jacob and Edward
Speaker 2: that they're like coming out like it just did. It
Speaker 2: wasn't real.
Speaker 1: That's that's hard when you find that out about somebody.
Speaker 2: Oh and like that that apple Side or Vinegar, Remember
Speaker 2: that that like horrific series that I watched about that
Speaker 2: woman that was like dying of dying and didn't want
Speaker 2: to like admit that she has had cancer. I don't
Speaker 2: know there was people do this all the time. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know about Appleside.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're gonna be obsessed with that. It's
Speaker 2: called it's on Netflix. It's called Appleside or Vinegar. And
Speaker 2: I'm not even going to pretend like I know the
Speaker 2: people's names because I don't. And your listeners are screaming
Speaker 2: at me being like it's this person, but it's this
Speaker 2: woman who like basically like did like oh real, like
Speaker 2: the UK version of like a twenty twenty interview being like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I am dying of cancer and just like absolutely was
Speaker 2: not in every way and just like lied the whole
Speaker 2: but one girl lied about not having cancer, and then
Speaker 2: the other girl lied about like furing her cancer like
Speaker 2: holistically and then actually had it and then eventually like
Speaker 2: died spoiler died because she like waited too long and
Speaker 2: like the cancer like destroyed her body all in the
Speaker 2: hopes of like becoming like influencers.
Speaker 1: And did they try to cure with apple cider vinegar?
Speaker 1: Is that what I'm getting?
Speaker 2: Yeah? That was like one of the things like very
Speaker 2: early on it was that. That's why it's called episode. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but like that's not a main part of it.
Speaker 1: But like okay, all right, because I was like where
Speaker 1: does that come in? Because I know you have to
Speaker 1: like drink that every day.
Speaker 2: But that's also a scam too. That's a scam too
Speaker 2: with that family. Apparently there's a documentary about that.
Speaker 1: So many scams, I know, I know, But this is
Speaker 1: the thing.
Speaker 2: Mary Pain, is that like these people come on and
Speaker 2: they're like, no, here's what you have to do, and
Speaker 2: it's like, who are you again? Who are you to
Speaker 2: tell me what to do here with this? You don't
Speaker 2: have kids, you don't have anything, you're you're you know,
Speaker 2: accidentally sucking cock. What do you know about? What do
Speaker 2: you know about raising my children and like and giving
Speaker 2: them exorcisms?
Speaker 1: And what about this? Three Daughters of Marta, you know,
Speaker 1: the one that was sort of like the out there artist.
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, she might kind of be like
Speaker 1: all right, I get it because like I'm an artist
Speaker 1: and maybe he's an artists whatever. But the others two
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, so we met our mom's gay best friend.
Speaker 2: And we're like, that's I was kissing my pants and
Speaker 2: they were like we were like yeah, it was like
Speaker 2: so great. And then they were like we're dating and
Speaker 2: we were all like like you hear the record scratch
Speaker 2: like happened to each of them, like they I'll say it,
Speaker 2: And it's so fucking funny that they're like, it's good
Speaker 2: to feel that her own children feel how we feel
Speaker 2: about this person. You know.
Speaker 1: They're like, do we have to give up being princesses
Speaker 1: because we're cool with it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like we're good, Like, can you just go and
Speaker 2: us stay.
Speaker 1: Because I don't I don't what. Listen, by the way,
Speaker 1: in Norway, does everybody speak perfect English with no accent?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I guess so.
Speaker 1: When Ingrid was just there, things were happening in the
Speaker 1: United States because she just got back, because she was
Speaker 1: gone for you know, three weeks, and when she was
Speaker 1: in Norway, I was like, oh, I'm so glad you're
Speaker 1: in the land of your people, you know, I know
Speaker 1: you're having a wonderful time there amongst the Norwegians. And
Speaker 1: she goes, I can I claim political asylum and stay here?
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, literally, I'm in Canada right now, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: do I have to go back home?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I was like, wow, Ingrid, what a great idea,
Speaker 1: not even funny. Also, do you think that these two
Speaker 1: are having sex? Because he did an interview where he said,
Speaker 1: you know, they would have sex four times a day.
Speaker 2: But no, no, no, Mary Payne, You're mistaken. He didn't do.
Speaker 2: He had his own podcasts where he said that no
Speaker 2: one prompted him to say that. He just volunteered that
Speaker 2: information on his own podcast.
Speaker 1: Okay, four times a day, but no finishing for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's gay. Wait, you remember the old clip
Speaker 2: of met Wendy Williams Denial is a river and your
Speaker 2: husband is gay. That is her.
Speaker 1: And you know, listen again. Fine. I went into it
Speaker 1: thinking like listen, they're both like these spiritual people and
Speaker 1: they just want to have their.
Speaker 2: Soul, their souls will fuck like they yeah, sure, you know.
Speaker 1: She's in her fifties. She's like, I don't care anymore,
Speaker 1: and you know, yeah, she's like fine, like I did
Speaker 1: all that whatever, I've got these three kids. I'm a princess.
Speaker 1: But she's and you never see them like really like
Speaker 1: and I do this a lot on ninety day fiance,
Speaker 1: Like if we ever see them sort of making out,
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, they're real couple. But if you never
Speaker 1: see anything, you're.
Speaker 2: Like the finest opposite sides of a room, You're.
Speaker 1: Like, they're not. This is green card situation. So okay,
Speaker 1: So do you think they're they've ever had sex?
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I think that they do. But it's like
Speaker 2: because he wants attention and he's like, but does.
Speaker 1: He have would she say like, hey, you've got that
Speaker 1: giant scar from your kidney surgery or go like no,
Speaker 1: it was laparoscopic or kidney replacing me.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's very weird, but like I just
Speaker 2: to me, it's like he's doing it, but it's like
Speaker 2: it's a performance, just like everything else is. You know.
Speaker 2: You know they're doing like weird threesomes with like random people,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, you know, I have
Speaker 2: no actual knowledge of this, but you know that there's
Speaker 2: like they're up to stuff, doing weird shit.
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like she's on into that. I
Speaker 1: kind of feel like she.
Speaker 2: No, but I feel like she's going to be into
Speaker 2: it because he tells her to be into it and
Speaker 2: she's like, Okay, you.
Speaker 1: Know, well, I will tell you that I did go
Speaker 1: into this with high hopes that these two crazy kids
Speaker 1: were just in love and nobody understood them.
Speaker 2: No. No, I could have told you. I could have
Speaker 2: dashed those dreams for you before we even watched it.
Speaker 1: Are you going to text uh Sonia?
Speaker 2: Oh? I really am going to text Sonya and be
Speaker 2: like were you at that wedding? Tell me everything? Not well,
Speaker 2: we saw her on camera like like were you I'm
Speaker 2: going to be like, were you really at that wedding?
Speaker 2: Like tell me everything. I'm gonna be You're going.
Speaker 1: To pretend like you didn't see it, like, well, she didn't.
Speaker 2: Actually, I just want to. I want I didn't see it,
Speaker 2: so I like, or I'll say, oh my god, saw
Speaker 2: you saw you with that one in the documentary? She
Speaker 2: probably doesn't even she probably hasn't even seen it, but
Speaker 2: I will find out. She will tell me the dart.
Speaker 2: I have a few notes.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, let's hear it.
Speaker 2: I said, learning that Martha has adult children and his
Speaker 2: divorce makes more sense of this. The fact that this
Speaker 2: was like after like she had lost her husband and
Speaker 2: they had like separated, and then also that he was
Speaker 2: not here anymore, like and that she has three adult
Speaker 2: children like that. I was like, oh, yeah, you're like
Speaker 2: in a mid life crisis, and so this is why
Speaker 2: you're doing this, Okay, okay, right, And when they're at
Speaker 2: one point, they do it cheers for something. They're at
Speaker 2: some dinner and and Durrek Derek says, skull to you,
Speaker 2: like skull is like cheers schol to you. Martha. I
Speaker 2: love you for your power. That's what he said right
Speaker 2: out there in the day.
Speaker 1: Maybe he meant her vaginal power.
Speaker 2: I think he meant like your powers and like you're
Speaker 2: a princess, is what I think. Okay, Okay, I said,
Speaker 2: why do these royals never prepare their partners for how
Speaker 2: to act in front of the royal family. We've seen
Speaker 2: it now with Megan, We've seen it with Yeah. And
Speaker 2: the reason people don't like Magane's because she was like
Speaker 2: I didn't know that I had to like Curtsey in
Speaker 2: front of the Queen of England and it's like, you
Speaker 2: dumb idiot. Yeah, everyone knows that.
Speaker 1: Well, they sit on a video explaining how.
Speaker 2: To at the wedding like because they no one had
Speaker 2: explained it to him. But also I think it's because
Speaker 2: these like roll people like don't they don't know any better,
Speaker 2: Like they don't know that everyone doesn't know that, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I think you can't show up in dorway, like in
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Speaker 1: man marrying into this like very traditional. You know, I
Speaker 1: just think that's not going to go over well.
Speaker 2: But I think or at least like, don't be surprised
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Speaker 2: You, or just again like, don't be surprised when someone
Speaker 2: if that's what you're gonna do, be don't be surprised
Speaker 2: that like a very conservative royal family isn't going to
Speaker 2: be like this is great, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like it's just not Yeah.
Speaker 1: And did you like the comparison that he was doing
Speaker 1: to with himself and Megan Markle?
Speaker 2: I yes, because I feel like there were parts, I
Speaker 2: mean like when you saw those comments where they were
Speaker 2: like saying very racist, horrible things to him, I was like,
Speaker 2: that is true, Like that's like he's bringing so much
Speaker 2: of it onto himself, but like that part of it
Speaker 2: is not his doing, the racist part.
Speaker 1: I felt like, oh, that could probably be true.
Speaker 2: No, and I feel like it's like very like I
Speaker 2: was like yeah, and then him even saying that like
Speaker 2: Harry brought up like the thing that the dad said,
Speaker 2: because it's funny because he's like, they don't defend me
Speaker 2: in the press, and I was like, yeah, they're never
Speaker 2: going to defend you in the press, because that's the
Speaker 2: whole point of who these people are, even if they're
Speaker 2: on a lower scale. It's like that's like what their
Speaker 2: model is is to have like press stories written about them.
Speaker 2: And so it's like cool to see the dad like
Speaker 2: stand up to the press with that, Like I actually
Speaker 2: really liked that, and I was like, wow, that's he
Speaker 2: at least someone's doing it, if you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: if none of them, we're going to do it for Megan,
Speaker 2: like at least like someone else is like modeling what
Speaker 2: should happen.
Speaker 1: They have a question, did they whoever produced this, did
Speaker 1: they have to they had to like buy the rights
Speaker 1: to that?
Speaker 2: As opraclips At a certain point if you if it's
Speaker 2: so big and you only use a little bit of it,
Speaker 2: I don't think that you have to, Okay, but like
Speaker 2: Netflix would probably have a deal with like whatever thing anyway,
Speaker 2: probably like if it's like CBS, because what was it
Speaker 2: on like CBS or like I can't remember either or
Speaker 2: was it Apple. I don't remember, but like so like
Speaker 2: whoever it was, like, let's say it was on CBS.
Speaker 2: Like in theory, Netflix probably has an overall deal with
Speaker 2: like the news of CBS to be like to be like, hey,
Speaker 2: we're going to license your thing for like this fee
Speaker 2: and that's like a normal and we're going to do
Speaker 2: and especially or in a documentary. In a documentary that
Speaker 2: was that would be like a but like you would
Speaker 2: have money set aside for like news archives stuff like that,
Speaker 2: and so that would be like put into your budget.
Speaker 2: That's not like okay, especially if you know that you're
Speaker 2: gonna draw some comparison to Megan and you're gonna need
Speaker 2: to get that. And because the interview is like so big,
Speaker 2: I feel like it gets to the point where it's
Speaker 2: like we've all seen it. It's not like you're like
Speaker 2: showing something that they've never seen before. There's all kinds
Speaker 2: of different ways to argue it. But they probably did pay,
Speaker 2: but it's probably not like as.
Speaker 1: Much like and my mind is like they pay for
Speaker 1: like a rolling Stone song, but no.
Speaker 2: No, it's not like three million dollars like I mean,
Speaker 2: it was probably expensive, but it was worth doing putting
Speaker 2: it in the documentary, wasn't it? That was like the best.
Speaker 2: That was the part you feel the most for him.
Speaker 1: That's the only part I felt for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Or because it's new technically news. I think in
Speaker 2: that there's a way that like you don't have to
Speaker 2: pay for it or something I don't remember. I don't
Speaker 2: know that that. Well, someone else is gonna is screaming
Speaker 2: right now being like yeah, but I think as soon
Speaker 2: as it's news, it's like public domain.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, what other notes do you have for
Speaker 1: me about this?
Speaker 2: My last note is the biggest note. And I said,
Speaker 2: he needs to stop convincing me of everything and just
Speaker 2: tell me. The whole beginning of this documentary was him
Speaker 2: doing a hard pitch for who he is. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: you shouldn't need to do that. You should just I say,
Speaker 2: it's a housewives all the time, Like I don't need
Speaker 2: you to like try to like like if we're like
Speaker 2: if it's a new housewife for a new person on
Speaker 2: reality television. I'm like, you if you feel like you're
Speaker 2: having to prove who you are to me, like that's
Speaker 2: not what this is. You just need to like be
Speaker 2: who you are on camera. No.
Speaker 1: Wow, somebody should have said that to Stephanie or Miami
Speaker 1: because she didn't get that note.
Speaker 2: No, she sure didn't. No, I'm catching up. I've been
Speaker 2: I've been away from my Bravos, so I'm catching up
Speaker 2: and I'm watching. That's what I was watching right now.
Speaker 2: Is her like when Alexia and Marisol don't go to
Speaker 2: the wherever they not my Orca? Do they go to
Speaker 2: my Orca? Yeah? They go to my want to go
Speaker 2: on the plane And then I'm want to go on
Speaker 2: the plane And she's like is this about me? Like what?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, you're mean to them about like
Speaker 2: going on your plane, and you hold it over everyone's head,
Speaker 2: so like they're mad.
Speaker 1: It gets worse because later on Marisol does sit her
Speaker 1: down wearing a full Gucci head to toe outfit Mirasol,
Speaker 1: and it was like, I just don't like people to
Speaker 1: brag Marasol head to toe Gucci say yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just don't like it when people like are flashy
Speaker 1: about their money and you're so glashy about your money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And she's like, come on, bro, like just don't
Speaker 2: be flashy about your money, Like.
Speaker 1: Bro, let's just have a cocky and be cool, bro,
Speaker 1: I come on Mighty Mouse.
Speaker 2: Speaking of Gucci outfits, when he's like going to do
Speaker 2: his dialysis or like going to the doctor and to
Speaker 2: do like walk on the treadmill and his like full
Speaker 2: Gucci outfit, and I was like, you don't even have
Speaker 2: too you don't even have tennis shoes on, Like he's
Speaker 2: in like loafers, like walking on the treadmill as trying
Speaker 2: to pretend like this is what he does every day.
Speaker 1: And it's like a it's like a letterman's jacket that
Speaker 1: would be like half leather half yes. And I did
Speaker 1: another thing. I noticed he's really leaned into the Gucci
Speaker 1: and she really leans into the armaz because they show
Speaker 1: him giving her a pair of Gucci boots for Christmas,
Speaker 1: like he's trying to turn her to Gucci, but she's
Speaker 1: all horsey. So she's like, all armez, this is like
Speaker 1: the Battle of the labels here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's, well, he wants Gucci because there's like
Speaker 2: all this like weird like he yeah, because it's like
Speaker 2: flashy weird shit on the shirt and he's using that
Speaker 2: to go on a treadmill and it was like huge,
Speaker 2: like big mindstone applicate things on his shirt, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: you would never ever wear this to like go walk
Speaker 2: on a treadmill for exercise, like what?
Speaker 1: No, But he's like, I came from Dallas is now
Speaker 1: I'm here like doing leg pumps and like it's probably
Speaker 1: not great for your internal organs to be.
Speaker 2: Like well like. But that's the thing is he was saying, like, oh,
Speaker 2: I like can't I can't work out because I'm like
Speaker 2: doing the dialysis and so it's like so hard for
Speaker 2: me and all this stuff. And then he's doing it
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what's happened? And then at the wedding
Speaker 2: he's like dancing around all day like not ef it
Speaker 2: makes any sense?
Speaker 1: Again, I would like you to know, because I'm sure
Speaker 1: you're going to go back and watch that. When they
Speaker 1: show the Dallas miss machine, they don't show a diasm
Speaker 1: machine hooked up to him. They do so show him
Speaker 1: have like a port and giving some sort of blood work,
Speaker 1: but they and then they show a dialysis machine but
Speaker 1: not next to him.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying is like.
Speaker 1: You have to question if somebody's on dialysis, that's bad.
Speaker 2: No, it's really bad. And we shouldn't feel like that
Speaker 2: we have our guard up whenever someone's saying like, do
Speaker 2: you know what I mean that I shouldn't be already
Speaker 2: be mistrusting you? And then you say, yeah, you're Like
Speaker 2: I would much of rather this not be a documentary
Speaker 2: that he's walking us through. I would much rather it
Speaker 2: have been a true crime documentary about how he's a
Speaker 2: grifter and not married to this princess. Like I I
Speaker 2: wish it was like like his victims, like in his
Speaker 2: way that man that was accidentally related, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Like him sitting there being like being like
Speaker 2: and then he sucked my dick without my consent? Do
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like? That is what I
Speaker 2: want to see more than him being like and like
Speaker 2: what I why do they not have him like commenting
Speaker 2: on the the voicemail on.
Speaker 1: These various news stories that have come out about him,
Speaker 1: you know, do.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean what I'm saying, like in
Speaker 2: that yeah, like why are they not being like why
Speaker 2: did you think it was okay to sell a medallion
Speaker 2: to cure COVID, which we know is not true? And
Speaker 2: then like and then again if that's if him being
Speaker 2: like I don't want to talk about that, like just
Speaker 2: show us him being combative about that or being like
Speaker 2: you said that you like accidentally were like when you
Speaker 2: were I listened to like a whole podcast. This is
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, but a whole podcast that
Speaker 2: was doing this like like microdosing of like ketamine and
Speaker 2: all those things that people do now, and then they
Speaker 2: walk you through this like your journey on the on
Speaker 2: the drugs and that that that these like Shawmans that
Speaker 2: were doing it were then like taking advantage of their
Speaker 2: the people that were doing it, and it was like
Speaker 2: you're supposed to be the person that's like shepherding me
Speaker 2: through this experience, and it said you're like sexually assaulting me.
Speaker 2: And so that was like a big It was this
Speaker 2: big thing and it was this like one shaman that
Speaker 2: was doing it, and it was like I listened to it.
Speaker 2: I can't not remember any of the details, like just
Speaker 2: like everything else on this episode, but it was I
Speaker 2: would have remembered. Was it him though, like it was Eric?
Speaker 1: Maybe it was maybe the podcast that you listened to
Speaker 1: was Shawman Shaman A ka Derek There it V E
Speaker 1: R R E T T. Yeah, guys, Chris is looking
Speaker 1: it up. He's like, I'm going to find it, going
Speaker 1: to find it, Derek.
Speaker 2: No, I need to go back, and like, fine, I
Speaker 2: need to go back and find like what the.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's I mean, if you go to the Wikipedia.
Speaker 1: It's just like I was like wow to think that
Speaker 1: I was going into this with the happy attitude until
Speaker 1: I went to Wikipedia, and now I'm like, wow, he
Speaker 1: needs to be exposed and.
Speaker 2: It's but it's just so bad that like all that
Speaker 2: is just available right on his Wikipedia page.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's crazy. And I didn't even like cut
Speaker 1: and paste a third of it and I've got like
Speaker 1: four pages here.
Speaker 2: Oh and when he never forget when he says, I
Speaker 2: consider myself to be a reptilian, a reptilian and Andromeda,
Speaker 2: and listen to me, even if you believe, even if
Speaker 2: that's what you believe, I am not telling you not
Speaker 2: to believe that. What I'm telling you is that when
Speaker 2: you're marrying into the royal family, you need to understand
Speaker 2: that that will become the biggest news story in the country.
Speaker 2: That you're saying I'm reptilian.
Speaker 1: Stop saying you're reptilian. Unity and that children should be
Speaker 1: exorcisms if they you.
Speaker 2: Know, that it's gonna not go well when you say
Speaker 2: I'm reptilian.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. He said so many crazy things. I need
Speaker 1: to know if actually he ever met Gwyneth Paltrow and
Speaker 1: did he heal her?
Speaker 2: And is he she thought he was a makeup artist.
Speaker 2: He went to like a Goop meet and greet, and
Speaker 2: that's what I'm asking you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 2: that's what he that's what he did.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we've got to find out about Sonya and Cynthia. Yeah,
Speaker 1: went to the wedding. But another thing, like another article
Speaker 1: was like, you know, he has said he's this huge
Speaker 1: American celebrity and this was Dalists celebrities at best. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's sad. Sonya and Cynthia are al
Speaker 1: us to us.
Speaker 2: Yeah they are. Yeah. But in Norway, when he was
Speaker 2: like at the doctor quote unquote in his Gucci dress
Speaker 2: shirt that he was walking the trem he was like
Speaker 2: looking at the at the rags. Did you see he
Speaker 2: was looking at the gospelags. He was like, Oh, I'm
Speaker 2: not on the cover of any of these. Oh wait,
Speaker 2: never mind, I am. I was like, you're a fucking loser,
Speaker 2: like you were fame horror. You know, it's so great.
Speaker 2: It was. This is someone that should have been on
Speaker 2: a reality show like fifteen years ago and just never did,
Speaker 2: never was. And yes, and so that's why we have
Speaker 2: what we have now because they need to just like
Speaker 2: they would have got he would have gotten this out
Speaker 2: of his system if you would have just been on
Speaker 2: the real world or like what about what was that
Speaker 2: WEIHO show the Problem, Like yeah, yeah, yeah, like a
Speaker 2: list New York or whatever, like no, it was no,
Speaker 2: what was the show guy that made one season? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he could have been on that.
Speaker 2: But like if he would have just been on that
Speaker 2: or like something else, like I don't even know what
Speaker 2: it would have been, like something like that, it would
Speaker 2: have just it would be honest, we'd be good, we'd
Speaker 2: be good to go.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sorry I made you watch this.
Speaker 2: No, it was fun. It was fun because it was
Speaker 2: like it wasn't that long and it was like I
Speaker 2: was like it was fun to watch. Like how insane
Speaker 2: they were.
Speaker 1: I really cannot believe I came into this going he's
Speaker 1: gonna die because he has already talked to Sonya and
Speaker 1: Cynthia and Chris is gonna know and even didn't even again.
Speaker 2: As I said, I'm like I was locked in. And
Speaker 2: then the minute I saw that medallion thing I walk,
Speaker 2: I was like no. I was like, I cannot give
Speaker 2: this person my respect anymore. It was already teetering, but
Speaker 2: like and then for them to and I in shame
Speaker 2: on the documentarians because they needed to push him on
Speaker 2: that and they didn't.
Speaker 1: They should have pushed him on how do you know
Speaker 1: Sonya and Cynthia from the real hospital. That's what I
Speaker 1: needed to know, Like.
Speaker 2: He doesn't he dns Sonya and she said, okay, I'll come.
Speaker 2: That's what happened. He dmmed every housewife that it ever existed.
Speaker 2: And then do you think they got paid for being there?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm gonna find out though, okay, because.
Speaker 1: When Cynthia talked about it, it was like, how do
Speaker 1: you know this person?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: I just anyway, it was wasn't clear. It wasn't clear
Speaker 1: how she knew him. So then I went to a
Speaker 1: hole because I was like, wait, because Cynthia has his
Speaker 1: new boyfriend. Did she meet him at this wedding? But no,
Speaker 1: she's dating a totally different guy. Because I'm kind of
Speaker 1: like reggae artist or something.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna text on you right now. Okay, what should
Speaker 2: I say. I'm going to say. I'm going to say,
Speaker 2: oh my god, saw you? Oh my god, saw you
Speaker 2: in this doc about Derek.
Speaker 1: And dying to know the details.
Speaker 2: Prince and Princess of Norway, Norway, right, yeah, we're in Norway,
Speaker 2: dying to know the details.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's one a.
Speaker 2: She might send me. She could send me a text
Speaker 2: in three weeks, so we don't know. Okay, this is
Speaker 2: not coming anytime soon, but that's but when she'll be excited.
Speaker 1: She'll be excited that. Yeah, she'll be excited that you
Speaker 1: saw her even though you didn't.
Speaker 2: She could text me two weeks from now. It's an answer.
Speaker 2: So when when that does answer, I will send it
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 1: And also I wanted to tell you something very funny
Speaker 1: that as I was sitting here waiting to record, I
Speaker 1: looked over at my phone and I was listening to
Speaker 1: a podcast and I saw scrolling down just like the
Speaker 1: headline of what the podcast was about, not knowing what
Speaker 1: podcast it was, and it said Lionel Richie, and I go, oh,
Speaker 1: that must be fixing famous people. No, it was SmartLess.
Speaker 2: They were they were interviewing Lionel Richie. Yeah, does Lionel
Speaker 2: Richie need fixed?
Speaker 1: Does Lionel Richie need to be on SmartLess?
Speaker 2: No? I don't know, they'll do.
Speaker 1: I mean, what lig this is a game? Now, this
Speaker 1: is a game that you guys could play on your show.
Speaker 1: You're welcome. Is this person on fixing famous movies? Smart and?
Speaker 2: Like? What's he going to say to the three of them?
Speaker 2: Who knows? Oh? Brother, isn't that?
Speaker 1: Isn't that interesting?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 1: I have a recommendation of a TV show I'm watching
Speaker 1: on Netflix, which is Black Rabbit with Jason Bateman and
Speaker 1: Jude Law.
Speaker 2: That just reminded me. I'm seeing it like being advertised.
Speaker 2: I have not clicked on. I haven't watched yet, but
Speaker 2: it's good.
Speaker 1: It's good. I can never find anything for my husband
Speaker 1: and I how to watch together because we just obviously
Speaker 1: have very wildly to watch football and I like to
Speaker 1: watch housewives.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So we've watched Slow Horses on Apple.
Speaker 2: We've liked that. Yeah, people like that. And he watched
Speaker 2: The Diplomat on Netflix with Carrie Carrie Russell.
Speaker 1: No, is that different than The American with Carrie W. Russell.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's from like Effex back in the day. This
Speaker 2: one's called the Diplomat and she's like the she's like
Speaker 2: the ambassador to the UK and she just gets the
Speaker 2: job and it's her and her husband. It's actually really good.
Speaker 1: It's on Netflix.
Speaker 2: It's on Netflix. I feel like you two would like
Speaker 2: it because there is like some like drama parts of
Speaker 2: it where it's like the drama within the like ambassadorship,
Speaker 2: but then there's also like political like drama that's very
Speaker 2: like manly, you know what I mean. Like I feel
Speaker 2: like it's like, okay, it's like something for you and
Speaker 2: something for him.
Speaker 1: Okay. Also got to watch The Bear.
Speaker 2: He liked that. Okay, good, he liked that.
Speaker 1: So now I've got him into the Black Rabbit because
Speaker 1: we both enjoy Jason Bateman, who he's a delight. Yeah
Speaker 1: he's got a good nose. Sister not so much.
Speaker 2: So that's it.
Speaker 1: That's a new game you guys to play over there
Speaker 1: on fixing Great, Thank you we will do. I've been
Speaker 1: following Dominic's German journey through Italy or wherever he is.
Speaker 2: Not all three of them are going to come back alive,
Speaker 2: is all I'm going to tell you. It's like going
Speaker 2: to be the White Lotus all of it, right?
Speaker 1: Does he have siblings that are on this.
Speaker 2: No, he doesn't have any siblings. That's the problem. It's
Speaker 2: that he's an only child, and so it's the three
Speaker 2: of them, and that's the that's the problem.
Speaker 1: I've been I've been following it and enjoying it quite
Speaker 1: a bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a monster. The three of them together are
Speaker 2: so fucking funny. You don't even know. His dad is
Speaker 2: like an older version of him, and his mom is
Speaker 2: so funny, and they're so long island and they are
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with them, and so yeah, it's it's fun.
Speaker 2: It's fun.
Speaker 1: It's a fun follow everyone, but tell everybody where they
Speaker 1: can find you and your podcast, Chris, you.
Speaker 2: Can find me at the Christa Rosa and you can
Speaker 2: find my podcast of fixing famous people.
Speaker 1: It's really good. I've been on a couple of times.
Speaker 2: You have sometimes you're over, you're due for another.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you. We we tried to fix the Chrystlies,
Speaker 1: then they get out of prison, and then we tried
Speaker 1: to fix Rachel Zoe and she got announced on The Housewives.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, we do things like we move the needle. Like,
Speaker 2: I'm not not trying to chet my own horn, but
Speaker 2: like things happen, should.
Speaker 1: We try to fix Kanye and then see if.
Speaker 2: You just no, no, no, we'll have someone. No, you
Speaker 2: need to come back soon. So well, once I'm back
Speaker 2: from camp, once I'm back in the Homeland, well we'll
Speaker 2: get something on the books because you're overdue to return. Okay,
Speaker 2: thanks Chris, thank you,