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Speaker 2: for coming to Troy to save me. Maybe we'll get
Speaker 2: some calls today five two zero four one six seventy
Speaker 2: four forty. It seems like we don't get calls because
Speaker 2: I don't know if they want to. They're just pissed off,
Speaker 2: or they have nothing to say, or they're just me
Speaker 2: tired of me saying the same things that this football
Speaker 2: team sucks you, Like yesterday's press covers. I was. I
Speaker 2: listened to yesterday's press common so make what did you
Speaker 2: make of it? Outside of him asking the fans to show.
Speaker 3: Up, I think it's pretty much the same old stuff
Speaker 3: that we've seen throughout the whole time season, and it's
Speaker 3: Brett Brennan's persona. It says just the way he does things,
Speaker 3: average Joe, Hey, everything's going to be okay.
Speaker 2: You know, does he does it come off that way
Speaker 2: to me? It does? I think it comes off a little.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Uh, how do I describe muscle menocin on?
Speaker 2: Just so so? And that's that's how I look at it,
Speaker 2: you know, just lucky? What's the record kind of so
Speaker 2: so so so? Yeah. No, I hate to use this
Speaker 2: form to continue to bash, but they are what they are, right, Uh,
Speaker 2: what are they? Three or five? Yeah? Three and six?
Speaker 2: Are three and six? Three more games? Everyone's still kind
Speaker 2: of thinking maybe they win three games to get to
Speaker 2: the playoffs. I think that that slim and none playoffs,
Speaker 2: get to a bowl game? What I say, playoffs? Yeah,
Speaker 2: bull game, bull game. That's why man. Yeah. Yeah. And
Speaker 2: we have to at the end come up with a
Speaker 2: big win against a issue which is obviously the new
Speaker 2: darling of the state.
Speaker 3: You know at this point that that is your bowl game.
Speaker 3: You know, you have to look at it as that
Speaker 3: is the game. Bowl games aren't guaranteed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So first up is Houston, Houston. That's going
Speaker 2: in the right direction, right, They won three or.
Speaker 3: Four, just beat Kansas State in a like a twenty
Speaker 3: four to seventeen game, kind of gritty out game and
Speaker 3: run a football.
Speaker 2: What are they doing that becomes so so hot?
Speaker 3: They just you know, they've kind of switched their quarterback
Speaker 3: situations around throughout the whole entire season.
Speaker 2: They've been up and down.
Speaker 3: But the guy that they put in just recently he
Speaker 3: had like one hundred yards passing a touchdown, ran for
Speaker 3: seventy five yards and two touchdowns. So they've just found
Speaker 3: away and playing against Kansas State, they kind of Kansas
Speaker 3: State Kansas State in terms of running the football and not.
Speaker 2: Turning it over well, and Kansas State was pretty good
Speaker 2: that we saw a month or so ago.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, you know, still a very solid team that
Speaker 3: has a chance to get to a Big twelve title
Speaker 3: game and potentially a College Football Playoffs into the title games.
Speaker 3: I'm you know, I'm gonna say b YU and IOWA say,
Speaker 3: I think those are the two best teams, and they've
Speaker 3: really separated themselves probably. I think their schedule gets a
Speaker 3: little tougher down the stretch. So he's done a pretty
Speaker 3: good job. He hasn't you know, right now with the
Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys having coaching issues with Micah Parsons talking about,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe it's time for a replacement. I'm sure
Speaker 3: Dion's name will come up at some point.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's no question. And and it's likely what
Speaker 2: slim is the fifty to fifty that he won't be
Speaker 2: there anyway.
Speaker 3: Oh I don't think there's any way he's going to
Speaker 3: be the Colorado goach to next season once his sons
Speaker 3: are gone's gone, the Hunter's gone, and blah blah blah. Yeah,
Speaker 3: well he did what he needed to do right and win.
Speaker 3: He did at the last second because outside of this
Speaker 3: season it wasn't looking good.
Speaker 2: No, in fact, the last second, you no pun intended.
Speaker 2: They won a few games at the last second. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, just getting into their playmakers. Their defense is
Speaker 2: ramped up a little bit to a degree than it
Speaker 2: was last season, and they've found a way in this
Speaker 2: Big twelve that is kind of a wishy washy conference overall.
Speaker 2: Do you think given the circumstances of Arizona, as we
Speaker 2: know what Brandon coming in and you get the players return,
Speaker 2: would they have done better in the Pac twelve than
Speaker 2: they've done in the Big Twelve.
Speaker 3: With this coaching staff and how it's progressed. No, they
Speaker 3: would have done far worse. Really, I think they would
Speaker 3: have done far worse. Oregon's a much tougher team than
Speaker 3: any Pack twelve tent that you got out there. I
Speaker 3: think Utah would maybe be in a little bit better
Speaker 3: of a place, you know, injuries and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: I played out to it. Colorado, giving what they are.
Speaker 3: You have Washington, you know they've they've kind of found
Speaker 3: their way throughout the season. Washington, I don't know who
Speaker 3: they would be at this point. Maybe in Oregon State.
Speaker 3: Washington State looks very good out there on the football field.
Speaker 3: Stanford probably be the Stanford maybe a cow. But you know,
Speaker 3: it's just how the schedule lines up. I think the
Speaker 3: Pac twelve last season was a tougher conference than what
Speaker 3: the Big twelve is this here, and you know you
Speaker 3: got to give and take.
Speaker 2: But who knows. Yeah, no, it's crazy. I just I
Speaker 2: hate to speculate they'm doing it like that because it
Speaker 2: doesn't mean much and it's not going to happen.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: So okay, No, that's cool. Water under the bridge, Yeah,
Speaker 2: water on the bridge. So the big weekend for a
Speaker 2: lot of sports. Uh football obviously Friday night, eight fifteen.
Speaker 2: We'll see how many people show up. And there's a
Speaker 2: lot of lot going against them, high school football, you
Speaker 2: a basketball? What else? The fight is Winter Haven? No,
Speaker 2: that would be now the Mike Tyson.
Speaker 3: My point is, if there's an event right now, it
Speaker 3: is going against Arizona.
Speaker 2: Football, right right. Opponents Houston, Yeah, Houston coming in. We'll
Speaker 2: see what happens. Maybe they get twenty five thousand, thirty
Speaker 2: thousand if they're lucky, but hey, what do you think
Speaker 2: the number is going to be that they announced though
Speaker 2: thirty seven? I'm guessing they're going to announce forty one, okay,
Speaker 2: which was possible. Yeah, and it will be around twenty seven. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah for the for the people that you have nothing
Speaker 2: to do on a Friday and going to go cheer
Speaker 2: on their team, which is bad because it does surely
Speaker 2: feel a lot like the summing time when no one
Speaker 2: gives a crap and you know, it's like apathy again
Speaker 2: and YadA YadA, Yeah, and you know it kind of
Speaker 2: feels worse. Is that first year.
Speaker 3: I think, at least for the first season. I'm not
Speaker 3: saying the whole Yeah, the first season of someone compared
Speaker 3: to the first season Brennan, it was, well, you know what,
Speaker 3: maybe they can get to a bowl game. They had
Speaker 3: a shot against ASU up by twenty blew that game
Speaker 3: right now. I mean, someone wasn't three and six in
Speaker 3: his first season. I think he was around that five
Speaker 3: hundred mark. You're far below. And I think the expectations
Speaker 3: were way higher for Brennan than they were someone even
Speaker 3: though someone had high expectations as well.
Speaker 2: Right right, because of his name and all that stuff
Speaker 2: and colilt. Yeah, yeah, no question. It's a strange year
Speaker 2: that they've had. Oh that's not even telling the story.
Speaker 3: It's just strange because with someone the fan base wasn't
Speaker 3: let's get rid of him. They thought, okay, well he
Speaker 3: can recruit and bring in guys. They're worried about Brennan
Speaker 3: because but you're coming from San Jose State, how are
Speaker 3: you going to recruit?
Speaker 2: Now? Well, they give him the benefit of doubt when
Speaker 2: they hired him, right, thinking, Okay, he's gonna be good.
Speaker 2: He loves this place, you know, Dick, tell me a disciple, yaha, YadA,
Speaker 2: and all that's falling apart pretty quickly. And it fell
Speaker 2: apart really quickly. Yeah, okay, so there's that, there's Friday,
Speaker 2: and then we have Arizona basketball versus Wisconsin. I'm not
Speaker 2: too sure how good Wisconsin is. I think they're gonna
Speaker 2: be on the road obviously. I guess I heard some
Speaker 2: of this morning that there's a possible NCAA team. I
Speaker 2: don't know about that, but we'll see.
Speaker 3: You know, big ten team, probably middle of the road
Speaker 3: Big ten team get to that eighteen twenty win marking,
Speaker 3: probably will sneak into the tournament. But this seems like
Speaker 3: a very run of the mill Wisconsin tine. They're gonna
Speaker 3: slow it down and do what they do historically.
Speaker 2: If historically yeah, I'm not sure sure they will slow
Speaker 2: it down though, but we all know, at least I
Speaker 2: do from here's years past that any team that tries
Speaker 2: to slow Arizona down that was pretty good at it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, they hold them to if they hold him
Speaker 2: to sixty seventy, have a chance against Arizona, make it
Speaker 2: a half court game. Yeah. Yeah, it's Arizona scrypt Tonite.
Speaker 2: It's been that way since eighty three, if not before.
Speaker 3: And you know they kind of tried to do that
Speaker 3: last year in Tucson. And it just got away from
Speaker 3: member sure and they just didn't have the horses.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, that's that's another thing. And anything
Speaker 2: else going on. We'll talk more about all that stuff
Speaker 2: here when we get to going with the show today.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have Chris rass Statter from He's one of
Speaker 2: the main referees in town, I think in town in
Speaker 2: the country. He's like the lead official, right, he's the
Speaker 2: head guy, a really good guy. We've had him on
Speaker 2: the show before. I know he was doing some refereeing
Speaker 2: and instructions with with some sports writers i think in
Speaker 2: the national level, the United States basketball writers. So we're
Speaker 2: talking him about that and see what what the plans
Speaker 2: are with They always get a good good yeah. I
Speaker 2: don't even know what the word is. Trying to be funny,
Speaker 2: but I can't be. And the challenges, the challenge yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: se if there's any new rules to anything that they
Speaker 2: had to look for specifically, because that's the one thing, right,
Speaker 2: every time it was one against the tournament, well they didn't.
Speaker 2: They didn't call that in the regular season, and it
Speaker 2: was against Clemson last year. That wasn't a case. That
Speaker 2: wasn't no, no, no, no, it was just more than shooting shooting.
Speaker 3: I think the last time Arizona's had a moment like
Speaker 3: that was against Wisconsin with the Nick Johnson push off
Speaker 3: call that would have won the game.
Speaker 2: Underneath the basket. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 2: I saw that, did you see? I didn't see that.
Speaker 2: I don't think he pushed off.
Speaker 3: I mean, you could have called it either way, but
Speaker 3: I know some players and coaches they had that moment
Speaker 3: circled and wouldn't let it go.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I was right there, though I didn't think
Speaker 2: I saw that. He just missed it and it hung
Speaker 2: on the rim a little bit and popped out. Yeah. No, okay,
Speaker 2: So there's that Chris rast and then we're going to
Speaker 2: have like the four fifteen hour. You know more about
Speaker 2: this guy than I do.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Joe Richardson from Dasha three star recruit on rivals dot Com,
Speaker 3: committed to the Wildcouts back in early January, has stayed committed.
Speaker 3: Took a visit to Vanderbilt last weekend. You know, they've
Speaker 3: been a kind of hot program and playing well this season.
Speaker 3: But just a guy that's been one of Arizona's top
Speaker 3: targets in the wide receiving room.
Speaker 2: So a three star, high three star, it's a high
Speaker 2: three star. Okay, So how good you've seen him?
Speaker 3: I've seen him once, pretty solid, good frame, a little
Speaker 3: bit raw. But a lot of high school kids are
Speaker 3: you know, as a three four star kid. A lot
Speaker 3: of you know, fans want to say, hey, what kind
Speaker 3: of impact is he going to have right away?
Speaker 2: You never know? You just never know. And historically, how
Speaker 2: will you know this better than me? How many of
Speaker 2: those guys pan out? Not a lot? Give me a
Speaker 2: number in terms in terms of what do you mean
Speaker 2: in terms of the three or four star peop?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it turned out to be at least
Speaker 3: an NFL player higher than some of the five stars.
Speaker 2: Oh really, what about just success stories overall?
Speaker 3: Like okay, for for an example, I think most NFL
Speaker 3: rosters are made out of three star recruits more than
Speaker 3: five star recruits. That third fourth round, that's where most
Speaker 3: of your NFL raw shorts are made out of. You know,
Speaker 3: you have your high five stars that go on the
Speaker 3: first round and all that, But how many of those
Speaker 3: quarterbacks are out of the league in two years? How
Speaker 3: many of those receivers end up out of the league?
Speaker 3: You're ross's built in that third fourth round in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, but what about three star recruits. You know,
Speaker 2: everyone celebrated the two star Scoob and he was what
Speaker 2: he was, right, he was a good college player. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: the overlooked obviously. Yeah, you can't you can't measure heart,
Speaker 2: and he had a lot of it. So with these guys,
Speaker 2: the three stars, four stars, they're not they're not getting
Speaker 2: any five stars, right.
Speaker 3: No, not this year, but you know they didn't get
Speaker 3: any five stars last year. In fact, the last time
Speaker 3: they got a five star, Wars stepped a rolling with Millon.
Speaker 2: So no, no, this this was the previous coaching staff.
Speaker 2: So no, no, I'm telling he was the Oregon. Oh
Speaker 2: I said, we were saying, I said, we were saying, yeah,
Speaker 2: flip to Arizona at the last minute. But no, Arizona
Speaker 2: historically has been up three low four stars school, and
Speaker 2: you got to develop players and and do what you
Speaker 2: can with them. Yeah. No, you're exactly right. It's and
Speaker 2: it is what it is because they've always been that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was with somebody last night, not a booster, but
Speaker 2: a guy who who has been around a long time.
Speaker 2: He says, So I don't know how Arizona is going
Speaker 2: to compete with the higher up schools. Excuse me, because
Speaker 2: there's not a whole lot of money here to pay
Speaker 2: off the nil people. And there's also and I said,
Speaker 2: well that's one part of it. The u A's asking
Speaker 2: for money. They've always been asking nobody, the athletic department, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: then now the schools, and now there's always something else.
Speaker 2: So I don't know where these pockets are coming from.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, for Arizona, and it was the
Speaker 3: case with Techoan and that that kind of recruiting class.
Speaker 3: In that group of guys, you gotta find the right fit,
Speaker 3: the guy that's different from everybody else. Terrific five star receiver.
Speaker 3: Everybody wanted him, but he was a little bit different.
Speaker 3: He wasn't this hey look at me, cocky, arrogant guy
Speaker 3: that was, you know, trying to parade himself on social media.
Speaker 2: It was a quiet type.
Speaker 3: You find those quiet type Kidstually, those are the kids
Speaker 3: that Arizona's able to steal away every now and then.
Speaker 2: Right, right, right, Okay, let's do this. We're gonna go
Speaker 2: and take a break here and come back with Chris
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to I'm the Ball Hero on Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifty I'm Steve or Troy. We're having trouble
Speaker 2: with our phone system or our board because I'm running it,
Speaker 2: but we could be on. I think we're on. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we're just having trouble with the phone system. I'm not
Speaker 2: sure why. I'm probably hitting the wrong but but we're
Speaker 2: going to try to get Chris tomorrow when I have
Speaker 2: the interns, and we'll see what happens with that. But
Speaker 2: I think we're on right now. Yeah, sorry, Troy, no problem. So,
Speaker 2: so you're busy, Are you busy with recruiting stuff in
Speaker 2: addition to everything else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we're getting into that time of the
Speaker 3: year where national signing days coming up, so we're starting
Speaker 3: to roll out articles, getting prepared, getting you know, the
Speaker 3: skeleton article all set for when they announced their official
Speaker 3: signing with Arizona. So we got to get those ready
Speaker 3: and get them rolled out, and you know, some of
Speaker 3: those you never even publish because you never know on
Speaker 3: National signing Day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where does Arizona stand right now?
Speaker 3: Right now on rivals dot com Arizona it sits at
Speaker 3: thirty seventh nationally in the country, So pretty solid recruiting
Speaker 3: claer ass overall in terms of rankings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so he's doing okay.
Speaker 3: They're doing okay right now. Again, it could change with
Speaker 3: how the season plays out and guys move around in
Speaker 3: the rankings and other teams get their five and four
Speaker 3: star recruits that they want.
Speaker 2: It. It's gonna it's gonna fluctuate. Yeah, So what do
Speaker 2: you think the appeal is now? Uh, Because if the
Speaker 2: appeal was different four or five months ago, you know
Speaker 2: you're gonna come to a program that's gonna be stable,
Speaker 2: that's going to be good. Now. What's the cell?
Speaker 3: The cell is family and just a family environment. Brennan
Speaker 3: has brought that up several times, how the kids still
Speaker 3: believe in him and his coaching staff, and how they
Speaker 3: feel that they're at home and that they're with coaches
Speaker 3: that actually care about the players.
Speaker 2: On the field good. Okay, So is it gonna be
Speaker 2: in case where Troy Hutchinson decides to come here because
Speaker 2: now he might see some playing time, or or because
Speaker 2: that's pretty much it they want to have. They want
Speaker 2: to play. A lot of kids want to play early.
Speaker 2: So are they going to have that chance? We won't
Speaker 2: know until we know who's leaving it. Who's good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that's that's a big part of it.
Speaker 3: But I think if you look in the receiving room
Speaker 3: and Arizona does have a slew of receivers coming in
Speaker 3: with a four star receiver out of Florida. Once tetro
Speaker 3: Ro McMillan leaves, which let's be honest, he's probably gonna
Speaker 3: be an NFL draft pick and he will be gone
Speaker 3: top ten, top five, there's not a lot there. The
Speaker 3: talent just hasn't produced this season. There hasn't been a
Speaker 3: lot of development there outside of tetro Ro McMillan, and
Speaker 3: I think the talent's a little thin. So if you're
Speaker 3: a receiver coming in, a three, four or five star
Speaker 3: receiver coming in, my thought process would be, man, I
Speaker 3: could be a number one receiver. Obviously they're gonna go
Speaker 3: get some guys in the portal and try to add
Speaker 3: to the receiving core.
Speaker 2: But your thought process is why not? Why can't I play?
Speaker 23: Right?
Speaker 2: So, the guys that are on the roster that came
Speaker 2: back to play, how many were NFL potential guys.
Speaker 3: I think Tacario Davis might be a first round draft pick,
Speaker 3: really might be. He was at mid season he was
Speaker 3: great as the first round point by whom by some
Speaker 3: NFL dot Com analysts. So I think they love the height,
Speaker 3: the height, the height, the development that he showed from
Speaker 3: his freshman year to the sophomore year, him being that
Speaker 3: number one corner of for Arizona. He's had a couple
Speaker 3: of games where he's looked really good. They liked the
Speaker 3: physicality and they like his footwork. They wouldn't shock me
Speaker 3: if he dropped to the second third round, but some
Speaker 3: people do have him as the first round grade. And
Speaker 3: then Jonah Savnea has been in that low first mid
Speaker 3: second round grade as well. And you look at Jonah,
Speaker 3: I mean he's played right tackle, left tackle, guard, you
Speaker 3: can slot them basically anywhere, and he's been an all
Speaker 3: conference performance performer for Arizona this season.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: So, so those just those two those three, those with
Speaker 3: Tetroro McMillan are the guys to really watch. And then
Speaker 3: you're gonna have guys in the secondary like Trade and
Speaker 3: Stokes that might get looks or Dalton Johnson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they've been out for most of them. They've
Speaker 2: been out, so that might hurt their draft stock. Well,
Speaker 2: I thought this whole year, Davis, I don't I don't
Speaker 2: see you, but what the hell do I know? Because
Speaker 2: he has he shown it. I think the.
Speaker 3: Utah game is the game where he really showed it
Speaker 3: and really proved that he is the number one point.
Speaker 2: He hasn't lived up to that game.
Speaker 3: But Utah is in a passing team, so that's the
Speaker 3: issue there. You know, to me, cornerbacks are one of
Speaker 3: the hardest positions to judge in terms of draft and
Speaker 3: evaluating guys. There's been guys that have been taken really
Speaker 3: high that I thought, really, why is he going and
Speaker 3: he panned out, and then guys that I thought, Oh,
Speaker 3: this guy's going to be an NFL player and they
Speaker 3: don't even get a shot. So I mean, it's really
Speaker 3: hit and miss with the corner position.
Speaker 2: Well, and nobody else really you said the three.
Speaker 3: Well, those three and then the guys in the secondary,
Speaker 3: but they've been banged up and injured, so you just
Speaker 3: don't know what their draft sock is going to look like.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you, so we see, we see the
Speaker 2: team as it is, they've lost a lot of to
Speaker 2: to injuries. Is what le's this hoop per second that
Speaker 2: that didn't happen, or they were more or they were minimal.
Speaker 2: Would it affect them this much? I don't think it's
Speaker 2: about that. I think defensively it is.
Speaker 3: I don't think you have a fifty six to twelve
Speaker 3: game against Central Florida that the defense is healthy. The
Speaker 3: win loss record probably not. Maybe when West Virginia because
Speaker 3: the defense had a lot of guys.
Speaker 2: Texas Tech, I don't know, well, Texas Tech.
Speaker 3: They still had a lot of guys. Makamanu was there
Speaker 3: and some other guys were they had. They did have
Speaker 3: some guys in the secondary injured. But I think West
Speaker 3: Virginia you may flip that game and the Central Florida
Speaker 3: game might be a little bit closer. But I mean,
Speaker 3: fifty six to twelve, it's hard to say that.
Speaker 13: To me.
Speaker 2: It's when you get beat like that, not just once,
Speaker 2: not just twice, three times I think right at least
Speaker 2: three times, EYU Colorado, it's Kansas State, Kansas State and
Speaker 2: USA yep, four times. That's not about talent, it's about
Speaker 2: want to me to me, And I could be totally
Speaker 2: rung and I've people will probably turn the channel because one,
Speaker 2: this doesn't work for me. But but but I've said
Speaker 2: this continually. When you have players who aren't responding to
Speaker 2: the coach, they just aren't responding to the coach for
Speaker 2: whatever reason.
Speaker 3: And you know, you look week to week, I think
Speaker 3: it's fair to say Arizona has gotten progressively worse throughout
Speaker 3: the season. Yeah, outside of the Utah game, that's the
Speaker 3: one thing. But again, Utah they are what they are.
Speaker 3: They're four and five now, so it's not like you
Speaker 3: beat a great team. They've gotten worse. Yeah, there hasn't
Speaker 3: been glimpses offensively. We're like, you know what, they figured
Speaker 3: it out.
Speaker 2: You could practice all you want and maybe we'll get
Speaker 2: out of this best here in a second, we can
Speaker 2: talk about basketball. But you could practice all you want
Speaker 2: and say you're practicing hard, YadA, YadA, and then you
Speaker 2: comes Friday night or Saturday or whatever, and it all
Speaker 2: changes because well you don't want to be there or
Speaker 2: you you know, I said, we saw it in something's years.
Speaker 2: In the final years, it was like, you know, what
Speaker 2: the hell are we doing here?
Speaker 3: Well, we also saw a lot of like you know,
Speaker 3: Whack and Mountain West players on Arizon that had no
Speaker 3: business being a power fight, right.
Speaker 2: Right, No, no, no, no question. In fact, that was
Speaker 2: a talent tap. I think in addition to what them
Speaker 2: not caring, Yeah, yeah, for sure, But you know, right now,
Speaker 2: I think it's a situation where the defense they've kind
Speaker 2: of pieced it together, kind of held it together, all
Speaker 2: these injuries starting to pile up, and then the offense
Speaker 2: is doing the same old thing where they can't move
Speaker 2: the ball past the fifty and eventually in that Central
Speaker 2: Florida game, I think it came to a moment where
Speaker 2: you know, what are we going to do? I think
Speaker 2: they finally to be To me, it looked like they
Speaker 2: gave up. So let me ask you game, So let
Speaker 2: me ask you maybe that's the final question. I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: So they've had this issue with the offense for one game,
Speaker 2: two games, three games, four, and I saw like a
Speaker 2: doctor suits book basically outside of New Mexico, five games
Speaker 2: six games, the seven games more because if you know
Speaker 2: that's the problem, you know that's the problem. I know
Speaker 2: that's a problem. Everybody knows that's the problem. When don't
Speaker 2: you think they fixed the problem?
Speaker 3: Well, I think they try to mitigate the problem with
Speaker 3: the change of the play calling of Matt Atkins. But
Speaker 3: it's still the same playbook and you still have an
Speaker 3: offense coordinator that yes there's a play caller, I guarantee you,
Speaker 3: he still has the final say in some regard.
Speaker 2: So it goes from from Atkins to the field. So
Speaker 2: the gatekeeper is the problem.
Speaker 3: People, Well, and again it's it's Dino's playbook that was
Speaker 3: quote unquote uh made with the players. This is a
Speaker 3: collaborative playbook apparently with the players.
Speaker 2: That's that's on the record.
Speaker 3: That's on the record from Brennan. And you know that
Speaker 3: this was a collaboration of a playbook that I mean,
Speaker 3: they did their thing, but they took some plays from
Speaker 3: Jadu and they took some places from the playof different
Speaker 3: and it was a collaboration.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, this collaboration is not working and
Speaker 2: has it worked from day one or the day two
Speaker 2: Game two.
Speaker 3: And the places just they don't change. It's the same
Speaker 3: rhythm and and scheme and and it leaves you wondering
Speaker 3: what's their identity?
Speaker 2: And it's always talked about this. At least I have
Speaker 2: with the number of people, and probably you have to
Speaker 2: with your people. What would be the point of getting
Speaker 2: rid of anybody? Now?
Speaker 3: It's too late, it's too late. It's because you have
Speaker 3: three games left. So let's say you Definer fire gno
Speaker 3: Babers And I'm not saying they should, I'm just saying that.
Speaker 3: And you put Matt Akins out there, who has never
Speaker 3: been an offense coordinator and say, go wild.
Speaker 2: Well, we already know how this is working. You're gonna go,
Speaker 2: You're gonna go three and nine. Yeah, it's not working.
Speaker 2: So the two gentlemen you just mentioned probably won't be
Speaker 2: doing it next year. We'll see, well you sell what
Speaker 2: you like to shoot themselves in the foot for two years.
Speaker 3: Or I'm saying at least for Matt Akins, he's a
Speaker 3: tight ends coach that has a lot of promise that
Speaker 3: they like to be a potential offense coordinator one day.
Speaker 2: At some point your promise has to turn into performance. No,
Speaker 2: I'm just saying it wouldn't surprise me if he's still
Speaker 2: on the staff, just not calling place. Oh right, right, yeah, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no that yeah. And for Dino, you know, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: make an offense coordinating change. My question is for Brennan,
Speaker 2: can you fire a former boss? Does he have that
Speaker 2: Moxie will replace an offense coordinator that was once his boss?
Speaker 2: That one probably probably because you don't. It's your ass too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but why don't they just move him? I mean they
Speaker 2: moved Chuck and they moved Ricky to one of those
Speaker 2: rules that he said he wanted him to do, but
Speaker 2: Dina wanted to do that. Uh, then then it was
Speaker 2: nice knowing you. Yeah, Honestly, this is a big boy league.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is this is a lot of writing
Speaker 2: on the success of this football team.
Speaker 3: And you know, everybody wants to talk about Dino as well.
Speaker 3: And he has a hand in the quarterback coaching realm
Speaker 3: as well. But they have an quarterback coach that it's
Speaker 3: his first year as a quarterback coach. He was a
Speaker 3: offensive analyst at San Jose, say it was an offensive
Speaker 3: analyst at Arizona. When they changed the rules stat more
Speaker 3: coaching to the coaching staff. He became their quarterback coach.
Speaker 3: And you know what, you look at nofa Fida, has
Speaker 3: he got him better?
Speaker 2: And you can kind of tell that he's pressing. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: he's pressing. He's that kid that will press.
Speaker 3: And he's not going to complain because that's what leaders do,
Speaker 3: and that that's Noah, he's a leader, and he's not
Speaker 3: going to complain, and he's going to keep on pressing
Speaker 3: and taking shot after shot and you're not going to
Speaker 3: see a change in his mentality.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's it's a tough situation for everybody all around.
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. Okay, that's what time we've got to.
Speaker 2: We got about thirteen minutes. We're not going to go
Speaker 2: to any more commercials. I think we spent them all
Speaker 2: listen to him, but let's cool with basketball. Uh, Tommy,
Speaker 2: Tommy seems a bit more. I don't know if relax
Speaker 2: is the right word. I'm just trying to think, you know,
Speaker 2: he's he's the same Timmy. He kind of drove you,
Speaker 2: kind of gets on people. I'm talking to the media
Speaker 2: because you know, and he's that guy in the real world. Uh,
Speaker 2: kind of a little cocky, kind of look confident. But
Speaker 2: but he also has to prove it now for the
Speaker 2: I'm not talking like Friday. I'm talking the rest of
Speaker 2: the you know, the rest of the way. If they
Speaker 2: lose to do they use to duke? What does it matter?
Speaker 2: All that matters is in March, do do well, do
Speaker 2: consistently well in the in the Big twelve, don't like,
Speaker 2: don't stink to bed, and just kind of show that
Speaker 2: you're capable of winning in that league.
Speaker 3: He looks like a coach to me, You're changing leagues.
Speaker 3: The expectation is Arizona finishes fourth or fifth. Yeah, Kansas
Speaker 3: is the big dog. You're not the big dog of
Speaker 3: a conference. He looks like a coach to me that thinks,
Speaker 3: you know what, we can shock a lot of people.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no question, especially with this. I
Speaker 2: was talking to somebody close to the program yesterday, not alone,
Speaker 2: but a little and I really like this team. I
Speaker 2: really do. What does that mean nothing inasmuch as I
Speaker 2: don't know what the other teams are or how the
Speaker 2: os are. Obviously they're picked fourth or fifth in the conference, right,
Speaker 2: I'll believe who I believe. I think they're gonna beat
Speaker 2: teams they shouldn't beat. And I don't know if they'll
Speaker 2: lose to teams they shouldn't lose to. But we've seen
Speaker 2: this before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I was a big fan of his
Speaker 3: first team with Ben Mathern, Christian Coloco, danieland Hillary, especially
Speaker 3: how they rounded out that season and that your defense
Speaker 3: were like they came together at the right moment. But
Speaker 3: then you get punched in the mouth by a team
Speaker 3: like Houston that's really physical. Sure, and that's the difference
Speaker 3: with this team. Well, that's the problem with sports.
Speaker 2: Everybody knows what they know because they know what's right
Speaker 2: in front of them, and Arizona fans they know what
Speaker 2: they know. Our team is pretty darn good, but they
Speaker 2: don't know what other teams have. People in Houston were thinking,
Speaker 2: our team is pretty damn good, and they were disappointed
Speaker 2: they got to the final and they were disappointed when
Speaker 2: they got there. The teams teams like whatever, Clemson, they
Speaker 2: were pretty good. They'd beat some pretty good teams last
Speaker 2: year at the beginning of the year. Then they hit
Speaker 2: their skids and then they we found themselves in the tournament.
Speaker 2: So you might think you're the best guy in the block.
Speaker 2: There's a problem. There's a lot of blocks out there. Well.
Speaker 2: Also it's the tournament.
Speaker 3: You have a team like North Carolina State, who they
Speaker 3: weren't good throughout the season, they were up and down,
Speaker 3: had to cut fire, go on a deep running the
Speaker 3: asiest tournament. But they had a player that just went
Speaker 3: and give up the big boy in the middle, and
Speaker 3: he was a wrecking ball for them, sure, and he got.
Speaker 2: Him to a final four. See the NBA. I don't think.
Speaker 3: I don't think he is he Do you think I
Speaker 3: think he got like a workout, But I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think might have to google his name because
Speaker 2: he was very good in that in that tournament. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it would be slimmed down too for the NBA and
Speaker 2: similarly for Arizona back in the day. When you have
Speaker 2: like a Derek Williams type of player that can lead
Speaker 2: you to the next round, it doesn't matter how how
Speaker 2: well you did. Oh, then here's my question to you,
Speaker 2: who's the guy that could lead them all? The boy
Speaker 2: and I know where you're gott to go, So I'm
Speaker 2: going to say something once you do. I don't think
Speaker 2: it's scale of bluff. Okay, I really don't. I don't.
Speaker 2: I think it's kJ Lewis.
Speaker 3: I think He's going to be the real difference maker
Speaker 3: for this team, because not only is it get me
Speaker 3: a bucket, it's stop a guy when I need you
Speaker 3: to stop a guy. And to me, the difference with
Speaker 3: this team is the length and the grittiness on defense.
Speaker 2: That could be the difference. Let me throw another name
Speaker 2: at you, and I don't disagree with you, but I'll
Speaker 2: throw this team. What about Jim Bradley because he has
Speaker 2: the ball in his hands so much, and you like
Speaker 2: when we sat together for press fell look at each
Speaker 2: other and he would take control or he would do
Speaker 2: things that we thought, what are you doing? He wouldn't
Speaker 2: pass the ball, he would go, he would down, heeal it.
Speaker 2: He's doing less of that now and he can shoot two,
Speaker 2: so I'm sure that's a thing for him to do.
Speaker 2: So I think that because he has the ball in
Speaker 2: his hand a lot more than the other guys, that
Speaker 2: he could be that guy he's and he's a tough dude. Yeah,
Speaker 2: very mentally tough, mentally tough, and that's what I meant
Speaker 2: mentally tough.
Speaker 3: And that's the way I look at kJ Lewis. I
Speaker 3: don't think there's a lot of fort or guards. Yeah,
Speaker 3: out there that want to go up against kJ Lewis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think both of them. You know, there are
Speaker 2: three son that's pretty darn good and we're not even
Speaker 2: talking about Kleb Love.
Speaker 3: And to me, you look at the efficiency, like Jadeen
Speaker 3: Bradley the first game, I think he had like fifteen
Speaker 3: sixteen points. He was ten of seven. Yeah, he didn't
Speaker 3: force the ball. Then felt like so many shots were
Speaker 3: you know, forced, and then yeah, seven and ten and
Speaker 3: then Caleb Love. You know, I think he took fifteen
Speaker 3: shots in the game when seven of fifteen and.
Speaker 2: They weren't forced.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of in rhythm threes, a lot of
Speaker 3: in rhythm letts.
Speaker 2: And that's where they went from him. I mean, he's
Speaker 2: a different quieter killed Love and that's a good thing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a good thing. Uh what do you make of
Speaker 2: What do you make of Chrystal because he's still kind
Speaker 2: of getting back to what he was together all these
Speaker 2: case what do you think about.
Speaker 3: I think he has potential, but you really got to
Speaker 3: see how he plays in the Big Twelve Conference because
Speaker 3: last year he was doing very well offensively, he was
Speaker 3: rebounding the ball, even played well against Duke. But when
Speaker 3: things got physical, he kind of melted away. He kind
Speaker 3: of hit that freshman wall and he wasn't really to
Speaker 3: be seen the rest of the season. So what can
Speaker 3: he do against a twelve opponents that are going to
Speaker 3: push you to the floor and knock you down and
Speaker 3: force you to play physical basketball. I still question his physicality.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, even though he's a big dude. Right, I
Speaker 2: really like the group. Well was not the like of
Speaker 2: the whole group, because I really like Henry. How he's playing.
Speaker 3: Henry to me is the interesting one because you're seeing
Speaker 3: his verticality and his quickness move up. He was not
Speaker 3: that light on his feet as a freshman, and then
Speaker 3: he sat out all last year. You know, you're wondering
Speaker 3: if he can develop or did that slow down his development.
Speaker 3: I don't remember him having those skill moves in the
Speaker 3: post during his freshman season.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, right, well he was so thin and he
Speaker 2: was he is exactly what he is. He's more of
Speaker 2: an outside inside guy that he is an inside outside guy,
Speaker 2: which is great because you can stretch whatever he's going
Speaker 2: to do there. He's more aggressive, you know, he's got that.
Speaker 2: I asked him that too, and I thought although it
Speaker 2: wasn't a planned and I asked him, and I asked
Speaker 2: Tommy about just how a blessing in disguise it was
Speaker 2: that he set out last year because he got bulkier,
Speaker 2: he probably watched a lot of basketball see what he
Speaker 2: needed to do, And that's how you become better. You
Speaker 2: get to see it and say, Okay, this is what
Speaker 2: I need to do. He had to learn from others, Yeah,
Speaker 2: which not a lot of people want to right right. Well,
Speaker 2: then this would have been his third year and you think, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, I got this year. Next year left, what
Speaker 2: am I going to do?
Speaker 3: And then a guy like Toby Iwaka, I love it.
Speaker 3: I think he's an extra piece that I don't think
Speaker 3: a lot of fans around the country thought that was
Speaker 3: going to be a critical piece.
Speaker 2: I didn't think it was going to be a critical piece.
Speaker 3: But seeing the way he rebounds the basketball, every ball
Speaker 3: out there he believes is going to be his. You
Speaker 3: see how he's going through players, jumping over players. They
Speaker 3: haven't had a guy like that in terms of rebounding
Speaker 3: mentality to me, at least maybe since Jesse Perry and
Speaker 3: even him, I don't think he has that type of mentality.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because they were talking about that. I
Speaker 2: know Meilbuck talked about it on the show, his show.
Speaker 2: During the game, he didn't have a type, and I'm
Speaker 2: thinking more Geene Edkerson, although he's more fluid than Gene,
Speaker 2: but you know that aggressive. I'm going to mix it
Speaker 2: up with you guy, and he I bet you're anything
Speaker 2: you want that. He won't get eighteen again, eighteen points again, No,
Speaker 2: and he'll be fine with that. He'll be fine with that.
Speaker 2: He'll get under ten to twelve rebounds a game. He's not.
Speaker 2: He's The thing about it is three different dudes coming
Speaker 2: at you at the big guy.
Speaker 3: Spot and three different styles. Right, that's hard to defend
Speaker 3: because when you can rotate that that that that's great
Speaker 3: for a coach. And then for Owaka, his positioning offensively, defensively,
Speaker 3: he's in the correct position. He creates an open lane
Speaker 3: for the passing lane easily. He's perfectly between his man
Speaker 3: and the hoop every time rebounding. Just the fundamental positioning
Speaker 3: of him. Players like Vassar and Krivas, they're gonna learn
Speaker 3: from a.
Speaker 2: Guy like that.
Speaker 3: It's hard to teach that as a coach, but when
Speaker 3: you have a leader like Owaka, that can do it.
Speaker 3: It's easier when players are looking at him.
Speaker 2: So those are six dudes, right. There are the three
Speaker 2: in the back court, the three in the front court.
Speaker 2: But although they won't be playing together all together all
Speaker 2: the time, but Tom and then you have Townsend, right seven,
Speaker 2: Martinez eight, you have Anthony and Della Rosso. And I
Speaker 2: want to love that guy a lot because he's you
Speaker 2: saw his press covers, Yeah, I was. After listening to
Speaker 2: I thought he's my favorite player now. But the thing
Speaker 2: about it, he's a shooter. Yeah, he hasn't shot the
Speaker 2: ball well though. Hot and cold nights, yeah, hot and
Speaker 2: cold nights. And you're thinking every time he puts the
Speaker 2: ball up to me. In my mind, I mean, if
Speaker 2: I were to write the story, that's what I would
Speaker 2: expect for him to hit the shots. He's got that confidence,
Speaker 2: cut that pro bado in a in a quiet way.
Speaker 2: But he hasn't. He hasn't hit the shots, not yet.
Speaker 3: And you know what's impressed me is that he's been
Speaker 3: really good at handling the basketball and distributing the ball.
Speaker 3: I'm not a big believer in terms of Martinez being
Speaker 3: the solid, like solid backup on guard for this roster,
Speaker 3: but if you could go to a guy like del
Speaker 3: Rosso who has that veteran experience that can score the
Speaker 3: basketball a little bit, has the height a little Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think you're in a better position and kind of
Speaker 3: like that combo guard coming off the bench.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's gonna be fun. So that's what six
Speaker 2: seven eight? Who are the too? What am I missing?
Speaker 2: Six seven eight? Let's see who? There's ten? There's ten,
Speaker 2: and he's been going like five and five. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean he's been rotating a lot, and that's gonna
Speaker 2: shrink down. Yet once we get to the Duke game
Speaker 2: and it'll go to eight, it'll go to eight, and
Speaker 2: who who he trusts and all that stuff. I doubt
Speaker 2: if Martinez gets in, yeah, I think that's the one
Speaker 2: that really doesn't. But everybody else could could be, you know,
Speaker 2: minutes ten to twelve for you know, the guys.
Speaker 3: The non starters. Yeah, yeah, I think so. I think
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a very even killed rosser. In terms
Speaker 3: of the front court, I think that's where you're gonna
Speaker 3: see a lot of rotation between a Waka Basar and Crebus.
Speaker 3: I think that backcourt, though, for the most part, they're
Speaker 3: gonna play thirty thirty five forty minutes a game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun. Like
Speaker 2: they're missing Carter Bryant, oh geez. Yeah, obviously the good
Speaker 2: piece of the puzzle. He hasn't really done much to
Speaker 2: do what we've seen and what we know. But I
Speaker 2: think it's just that freshman, not not jitters, but freshman
Speaker 2: kind of I gotta get my footing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the plays that he is making, plays on
Speaker 3: the highlights that he does have, what are they They're
Speaker 3: getting his hands in the passing lane, getting out in
Speaker 3: transition and finishing at the rim, making the correct pass.
Speaker 2: It's all fundamental stuff. Yeah, it's nothing flashy, but it
Speaker 2: just works.
Speaker 3: And for a guy like that, as talented as he is,
Speaker 3: that he's getting that down.
Speaker 2: I think Tommy loves that. Yeah, yeah, no question, And
Speaker 2: it's funny that you forgure you forget about that. That's nine.
Speaker 2: I think that's about it. That's about right. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean all the ten scholarship guys this year, so he'll
Speaker 2: be the Briant will be the sixth or seventh guy
Speaker 2: coming in. And this is a very good team. Thinking
Speaker 2: about it again, this isn't the only team in the
Speaker 2: in the country, and it's not the only team in
Speaker 2: the conference, especially not in the Big twelve.
Speaker 3: And I think the key for the Big Twelve is
Speaker 3: not necessarily the rank matchup.
Speaker 2: So those are going to be he I'll give you this.
Speaker 2: And maybe if we could take calls in the next hour.
Speaker 2: I hope we can. I'm not sure if I can
Speaker 2: take the calls. Right, But uh, will the will the
Speaker 2: n c double A? It's November, right, I just have
Speaker 2: dumb question. Will the n Cuba A champion come from
Speaker 2: the Big Twelve? Yes, I'll say yes. I'll say that, yeah,
Speaker 2: because it's where else is going to come from? Right,
Speaker 2: Yukon could repeat. I think they're a heavy favorite though.
Speaker 2: I think Yukon their solid rocks. They're they're a machine
Speaker 2: right now. They can rotate guys in and out. Be
Speaker 2: careful of Kentucky.
Speaker 3: Yeah, getting hot at the right moment. Look North Carolina
Speaker 3: and Duke they're going to be top ten teams are
Speaker 3: going to be very difficult.
Speaker 2: I don't believe that. I wouldn't. I don't save my
Speaker 2: life on them. Yeah. No, So those teams and and
Speaker 2: maybe it seemed like Arkansas to get hot. No, who's
Speaker 2: their coach Cali Parks. That ain't happen. He got beat
Speaker 2: by Kentucky somebody just recently and Oakland, Oakland. Okay, so
Speaker 2: he's raised. He's not the guy. He's just not the guy.
Speaker 2: I've said this for a long time. He's got good talent,
Speaker 2: but just can't get him to play. Okay, I think
Speaker 2: that we should go come back at the top of
Speaker 2: the hour. We'll still talk. I'm not going to do
Speaker 2: any breaking news, although there's some stuff to talk about it, Okay,