WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:04.839 You see somethings are going to happen? 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:09.759 What? 3 00:00:09.759 --> 00:00:10.560 What's going to happen? 4 00:00:12.400 --> 00:00:13.000 I'll take you one? 5 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:26.600 What help? Welcome to the Occult Rejects. 6 00:00:27.320 --> 00:00:31.000 This episode, we got myself, and we got the Headless Giant, 7 00:00:31.320 --> 00:00:33.880 and we got jewels, we got Branch, and we got 8 00:00:33.960 --> 00:00:35.200 Chris from Channel. 9 00:00:34.880 --> 00:00:36.240 Ok okay with us today. 10 00:00:37.200 --> 00:00:40.000 Just in case you don't happen to know who we are, 11 00:00:40.280 --> 00:00:41.880 and if you happen to be a new listener. 12 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:45.039 I'm gonna let everybody introduce themselves. Headless my man. 13 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:47.479 Please let everybody know what your deal is and where 14 00:00:47.479 --> 00:00:48.719 they can find your amazing work. 15 00:00:49.640 --> 00:00:51.600 Thank you. I'm the Headless Giant. You can find me 16 00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:54.759 on YouTube and x under the Headless Giant. And if 17 00:00:54.759 --> 00:00:58.079 you have any kind of occult weird stories, you can 18 00:00:58.159 --> 00:01:00.719 send them to my email and we will read them. 19 00:01:01.039 --> 00:01:04.840 My email is Headless Giant podcast at gmail dot com. 20 00:01:04.879 --> 00:01:07.239 So and that show is on Thursday nights. 21 00:01:07.760 --> 00:01:09.120 Check it out awesome. 22 00:01:09.200 --> 00:01:12.400 Yes, send those emails in definitely and check out. If 23 00:01:12.400 --> 00:01:13.959 you haven't check out that live yet to check out 24 00:01:14.000 --> 00:01:16.920 that show yet, check it out. And then we got 25 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:20.000 jewels from Gray Pilled Podcasts joined us today as well. 26 00:01:20.200 --> 00:01:22.840 Always love having you on my man, What's up and 27 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:24.599 let everybody know what your deal is. 28 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:27.719 Please always love joining you guys. Man. It's always a 29 00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:30.959 good conversation and we always end up kind of learning 30 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:33.840 something or getting something out of it as well. Guys. 31 00:01:33.840 --> 00:01:36.640 I'm Jewels, host of the Gray Pilled Podcast. I have 32 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:39.480 a few shows I do. I run production for Austin 33 00:01:39.560 --> 00:01:44.000 Pacard and Jose Gallison show Already Dead every Tuesday eight 34 00:01:44.079 --> 00:01:48.959 thirty Central live on rumble x and YouTube. I am 35 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:52.480 co host of Sound Science with the Paranoid American. We 36 00:01:52.599 --> 00:01:57.040 do a couple of those every month or so. Also 37 00:01:57.079 --> 00:02:02.120 the co host of eloheem Etymology with Adrian West. And 38 00:02:02.159 --> 00:02:05.159 then I have a Sunday show I do called Sunday Chaos. 39 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:10.599 Great Pilled is just my my voice is cracked, my brand, 40 00:02:10.840 --> 00:02:14.479 I guess you could say, uh so yeah. I'm on 41 00:02:14.599 --> 00:02:18.319 Twitter at Great Pill Pod, Instagram, Great Piled, Underscore Podcast. 42 00:02:18.360 --> 00:02:22.960 You can find me on YouTube, Rumble, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, 43 00:02:23.159 --> 00:02:25.400 and Patreon. Doing a lot of big stuff on Patreon. 44 00:02:25.599 --> 00:02:28.520 Just got some new stickers printed. It's one of four 45 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:32.639 designs the Yellow heam Etymology. Got some more stuff coming 46 00:02:32.639 --> 00:02:35.199 for all my Patreon people, so that you find me 47 00:02:35.240 --> 00:02:35.759 over there. 48 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:39.680 That's what's up man. Awesome, Yes, and I will include 49 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:41.680 all your links in the bottom. Now I'm pretty well 50 00:02:41.719 --> 00:02:44.000 eventually I have some of them in there now on Mitchell. 51 00:02:44.199 --> 00:02:47.560 All the shows are on my one page. Okay, so awesome, 52 00:02:47.639 --> 00:02:51.479 very easy to find. Yes, and uh, finally to a 53 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:54.759 branch show. Sorry about that to branching Chris from Channel 54 00:02:54.879 --> 00:02:55.680 k okay. 55 00:02:55.960 --> 00:02:58.680 Uh. I guess maybe we'll start with you first, Chris. 56 00:02:58.719 --> 00:03:00.840 Why don't you introduce yourself so let us know what 57 00:03:01.039 --> 00:03:02.319 is up with you guys. 58 00:03:03.199 --> 00:03:08.840 Yes, I'm Chris or As my moniker for my channel 59 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:11.360 is King. Today you guys can come and King Weird 60 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:13.639 since we'll be talking about with spiders and all the 61 00:03:13.719 --> 00:03:19.800 weirdness of weaving. But yeah, I do a channel called 62 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:25.599 Channel Koka. We're alternative force against all the three letter 63 00:03:26.439 --> 00:03:31.479 network agencies. So you know, we're going up against scene 64 00:03:31.520 --> 00:03:39.599 in and ABC, NBC, A, MC, TN, T, HBO, you know, 65 00:03:39.960 --> 00:03:45.520 doing all those mombetic magics of pop culture and film 66 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:48.639 and all the occult side of things and all the 67 00:03:48.800 --> 00:03:54.560 esoteric and exoteric. And then my co hosts for my 68 00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:59.319 channel of course is is There brands and we have 69 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:04.360 a awesome kind of back and forth and we try 70 00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:07.759 to balance each other out, as the King of Cup does. 71 00:04:07.840 --> 00:04:13.479 It's all about balance. So check us out. And we 72 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:16.519 have all kinds of step on chain of all kinds 73 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:17.360 of different topics. 74 00:04:17.720 --> 00:04:19.680 Yeah, we'll have to say, you guys have covered some topics. 75 00:04:19.720 --> 00:04:21.800 I was like, that's actually interesting to think of to 76 00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:25.439 even cover the topic. It's definitely gonna be different stuff. 77 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:29.360 Thank you very much for coming on. And finally branch, 78 00:04:29.800 --> 00:04:31.680 just to let people know, I did have this man 79 00:04:31.759 --> 00:04:33.800 on the show probably about two years ago, so it's 80 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:35.879 actually it's very nice to have this man back on. 81 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:37.240 I had a great time with him the first time 82 00:04:37.240 --> 00:04:40.000 he was on, so it was a pleasure. Thank you 83 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:41.800 very much, sir, and let everybody know what you deal 84 00:04:41.839 --> 00:04:42.360 with and stuff. 85 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:47.199 Hey guys, it's nice to meet you all, and it's 86 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:49.360 nice to be back Nick. Thank you for hosting. So 87 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:52.079 I just do a lot of this stuff for fun. 88 00:04:53.959 --> 00:04:57.000 I collaborate a lot. So I did create a link 89 00:04:57.040 --> 00:04:59.279 tree that I can share with him and you can 90 00:04:59.399 --> 00:05:02.800 put in the description or something. But yeah, it's a lot. 91 00:05:02.879 --> 00:05:05.800 It's a lot to even mentioned. So if you want 92 00:05:05.800 --> 00:05:07.639 to collaborate or whatever, you can reach out to me. 93 00:05:07.680 --> 00:05:14.480 On Twitter, Instagram, I'm Apocalyptic Aesthetic on Instagram, and William 94 00:05:14.519 --> 00:05:18.279 Burke and there on Twitter. Thank you very much for 95 00:05:18.319 --> 00:05:19.680 having me. It's a pleasure to be here. 96 00:05:20.519 --> 00:05:25.680 Awesome, awesome, And today we're going to get into spider symbolism, 97 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:28.319 which I think is a great topic to bring up. 98 00:05:28.680 --> 00:05:32.720 I myself, in certain logos I've used the spider. I 99 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:34.839 don't think it probably may not necessarily be for the 100 00:05:34.839 --> 00:05:36.680 same reasons why we're going to talk about it today. 101 00:05:36.680 --> 00:05:38.519 But I mean, I have used the spider for symbolism 102 00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:41.199 myself and logos, but I'm normally taking it back to 103 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:44.639 the optic nerve or the racketid layer of your brain. 104 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:47.839 I'm more of using it for physiology. But I do 105 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:51.800 think the spider is huge symbolism used for many different reasons. 106 00:05:52.439 --> 00:05:55.199 So we got Chris, and we got Branch, and I 107 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:57.759 got Jules and Headliss to talk about this for like 108 00:05:57.800 --> 00:05:58.480 the next hour and a half. 109 00:05:58.480 --> 00:05:59.600 It's well, I'll have how long it takes. 110 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:03.480 So I guess Chris, if you want Maybe or Branch, 111 00:06:03.519 --> 00:06:05.720 whichever one of you just want to start this off first, 112 00:06:06.079 --> 00:06:07.480 what got you into even doing it? 113 00:06:07.600 --> 00:06:08.040 Maybe? 114 00:06:08.839 --> 00:06:09.079 Yeah? 115 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:14.000 Yeah, Well I used to be in the at the 116 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:19.879 dawn of twenty twenty, when you know everything that happened 117 00:06:19.879 --> 00:06:26.720 with the scamdemic and everything happened. I I was introduced 118 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:29.879 to a community that referred to each other as as 119 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:34.160 spiders and everything, and I just went head first into 120 00:06:34.600 --> 00:06:43.399 mametic magic and spider symbolism and weaving symbolism and everything, 121 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:49.279 and I just I found my own synchronicities with the spiders, 122 00:06:50.199 --> 00:06:54.199 with spider symbolism. I just before we started the show, Nick, 123 00:06:54.319 --> 00:06:59.279 I told you I need a review on my channel 124 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:03.920 of this Spider Verse movie. And as I was reviewing 125 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:10.680 the movie, uh, spider hopped onto my computer screen for 126 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:13.959 the hung out with me for the entire interviews, and 127 00:07:13.959 --> 00:07:16.600 then left as soon as I got done going live. 128 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:20.600 Right before I joined you guys today, a spider crawled 129 00:07:20.600 --> 00:07:23.000 on my on my world right before I hopped on 130 00:07:23.040 --> 00:07:26.560 the stream with you guys. So it's it's all, it's all, 131 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:31.560 it's all interconnected and everything. So and that's actually how 132 00:07:31.600 --> 00:07:34.720 I met the brand. So we met through the Spiders community. 133 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:39.399 That's how we got introduced to each other, and and 134 00:07:39.480 --> 00:07:41.920 we do shows together all the time. And so I 135 00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:45.800 just I got really fascinated into this work and the 136 00:07:45.839 --> 00:07:53.560 work of the art of weaving, and it really it 137 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:56.439 gets into you know, I know you guys talked about 138 00:07:56.759 --> 00:08:05.759 occult topics. Really chaos magic and mimetics is ancient weaving, 139 00:08:08.439 --> 00:08:12.360 and so I think that that would be an interesting 140 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:18.759 place to start. Some A good example would be, of course, 141 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:28.800 to the norns in as the Norse mythology goes, or 142 00:08:29.279 --> 00:08:32.559 in Greek you have the Mora, which is similar to 143 00:08:32.639 --> 00:08:42.080 the norms. It's a trinity of essentially goddesses and they 144 00:08:42.120 --> 00:08:49.159 represent past, present and future or fate, destiny and will. 145 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:57.519 And really when you're when you're manifesting. And I don't 146 00:08:58.159 --> 00:09:06.240 practice chaos magic, I'm not a Chaostan magician. Yeah, I'm 147 00:09:06.279 --> 00:09:10.200 not promoting that. I'm just describing to you guide what 148 00:09:10.200 --> 00:09:13.679 what I understand. It's about when when you when you're 149 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:20.960 when you're manifesting things, it you're essentially you're you're weaving. 150 00:09:21.440 --> 00:09:29.960 There's an interesting book called Weaving Fate Hypersiduals. It's it's 151 00:09:29.960 --> 00:09:34.200 called Weaven Think Hypersiduals, Changing Fate and telling true lies 152 00:09:34.600 --> 00:09:38.639 and essentially what it is, Yeah, what the true like 153 00:09:38.799 --> 00:09:41.919 the true lies thing is really interesting. Basically anything that 154 00:09:42.039 --> 00:09:45.279 doesn't exist in our reality is a lie. So when 155 00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:49.519 you're manifesting, you're turning something that's a lie into truth. 156 00:09:49.960 --> 00:09:53.600 You're bringing truth into our reality by creating something. And 157 00:09:53.720 --> 00:09:59.559 so that's a balancing of the fates you are you're 158 00:09:59.559 --> 00:10:02.320 going into with this. You know, your your headspace, your 159 00:10:02.360 --> 00:10:05.840 imaginal realm is what I like to refer to it as. 160 00:10:06.440 --> 00:10:09.639 And what a lot of new eager to get stuck 161 00:10:09.720 --> 00:10:13.039 at is that imaginal realm. It's all they just want 162 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:16.799 to set in this imaginal realm and you know, meditate 163 00:10:16.919 --> 00:10:21.320 and have everything get created around them. What we're that's 164 00:10:21.399 --> 00:10:24.559 not that's only half of the process. They're not doing 165 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:27.279 the second half. The second half is the physical work, 166 00:10:27.519 --> 00:10:33.480 because we are bridges of the the spirit world in 167 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:36.440 the physical world. So when if you're really wanting to 168 00:10:36.519 --> 00:10:41.440 manifest with with chaos, magic or New Aids, manifesting whatever 169 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:44.440 you're going to call it, or weaving, I would refer 170 00:10:44.559 --> 00:10:49.279 to it as as weaving. To weave your fate, you 171 00:10:49.519 --> 00:10:56.519 have to balance the whole visualization aspect of it and 172 00:10:56.840 --> 00:10:59.879 with the physical work. You have to bring your visualization 173 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:04.799 into the physical by doing some kind of physical activity 174 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:12.679 or laboring. Right, So, and that gets into mimetics as well, 175 00:11:12.840 --> 00:11:16.200 and that's what hyperstiduals are. So if you create art, 176 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:21.840 you're hyperstitualists, you're creating mo medics. There's an interesting documentary 177 00:11:23.320 --> 00:11:27.080 called You Can't Kill Meme, and it's all about how 178 00:11:27.159 --> 00:11:36.279 chaos magicians help Donald Trump win his seventeen presidency. Maga, 179 00:11:36.360 --> 00:11:37.080 I see that. 180 00:11:37.840 --> 00:11:41.279 Yeah, man, I've said before that Trump is probably, uh 181 00:11:41.399 --> 00:11:45.080 the most powerful chaos magi out there right now. 182 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:53.600 Yeah. Even yeah, for his latest presidency, he even talked 183 00:11:53.600 --> 00:11:56.840 about weaving at one of his speeches and it turned 184 00:11:56.840 --> 00:11:59.559 into I don't know if you guys saw it, but 185 00:11:59.600 --> 00:12:01.399 everyone was making fun of him because he was like, 186 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:03.600 it's the art of weaving, and he was like, you know, 187 00:12:03.600 --> 00:12:06.159 he was being a trumble about it and everything. But 188 00:12:06.200 --> 00:12:07.960 for me, it's just think Initially I was like, yes, 189 00:12:08.039 --> 00:12:12.200 he's talking about weaving. He's talking about bending his own 190 00:12:12.240 --> 00:12:15.000 reality to his will, and that's really what it is 191 00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:18.759 is you have to balance your fates. To weave with 192 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:22.600 weaver hands, you have to balance the fates. You can't 193 00:12:22.639 --> 00:12:25.559 be living in the past, you can't be always looking 194 00:12:25.600 --> 00:12:29.440 to the future and to be if you're just stagnant 195 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:32.120 in the present all the time, then you're not planning 196 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:35.200 anything ahead and you're not learning from your past, so 197 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:38.799 it's like balancing the fates. And to me, that's when 198 00:12:38.840 --> 00:12:43.200 you're talking about nostalgia, that it's an imbalance of the 199 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:50.000 fates because you're always focusing on the past. And I 200 00:12:50.039 --> 00:12:52.879 think that's what nine eleven was all about because prior 201 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:56.559 to ninety eleven, where everything was about the future and 202 00:12:56.679 --> 00:13:00.919 futuristic and after what after ninety eleven? Now it all 203 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:08.080 this retro future mimmoibarites, you know, creating reboots and all this. 204 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:13.360 So I think whatever energetic thing happened with ninety eleven 205 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:16.120 was there had to do with some kind of chaos, 206 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:24.639 kind of magic or the fates got disbalance, so that 207 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:28.720 it's an interesting place to talk to start out, I 208 00:13:29.080 --> 00:13:32.679 feel like, is this idea of what weaving really is 209 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:37.159 from a spiritual, magical perspective. 210 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:41.480 To back you up on that, King, think about fashion 211 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:45.960 since nine to eleven, right, fashion has been stuck in 212 00:13:46.039 --> 00:13:49.639 the same perpetual place ever since then, for you know, 213 00:13:49.720 --> 00:13:52.639 twenty five years now, there hasn't been a real big 214 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:55.440 fashion trend that has taken off in all these decades 215 00:13:55.440 --> 00:13:58.320 from nine to eleven forward, seem like they're all collapsed. 216 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:01.360 That doesn't seem like there's a big difference in fashion 217 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:05.639 styles back to weaving since that time period. I think 218 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:09.000 when people do these magical workings, there has to be 219 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:12.039 an offset, there has to be a displacement of energy, 220 00:14:12.440 --> 00:14:15.120 and we see that when it comes to creativity since 221 00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:18.360 nine to eleven having to do with people's fashion. Before 222 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:22.559 then you would have new innovations, new technologies, and new 223 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:27.559 materials used in all of this fashion type endeavors. But 224 00:14:27.720 --> 00:14:31.240 now we're kind of stuck. It's the only innovations that 225 00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:33.080 we have is what new apps you can put on 226 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:36.000 these phones. You know, nothing's really changed. 227 00:14:36.600 --> 00:14:39.600 Yeah, And I did want to tell something to King that, 228 00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:46.000 you know. I know that Nick has had William Ramsey 229 00:14:46.399 --> 00:14:48.559 on the show before, and I've been reading his book 230 00:14:49.639 --> 00:14:54.559 on Crowley and how this nine to eleven basically was 231 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:58.159 I think the final work for a ritual to bring 232 00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:02.440 about the aon of Horus, right, and you see it 233 00:15:02.480 --> 00:15:07.039 in the twin Towers representing eleven, right, and you know 234 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:11.000 you have the famous picture of Crowley doing his you know, 235 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:16.639 his I don't know what sign that is that that, yeah, 236 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:19.320 which I think does represent the Towers in a way, 237 00:15:19.440 --> 00:15:24.200 as as well as eleven being a thelemic number two, right, 238 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:28.559 So I definitely think it's tied into chaos magic more 239 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:29.759 and more than a lot of people know. 240 00:15:30.600 --> 00:15:34.279 Yeah, And I never have thought about his pots being 241 00:15:34.600 --> 00:15:37.279 connected to eleven and the Twin Towers, So think you 242 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:41.720 bring that up. Yeah, man, that's fascinating. That also makes 243 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:46.720 me think of that deleted scene from the Kobygliss Spider 244 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:50.240 Man movie that they promoted it with with Spider Man 245 00:15:51.120 --> 00:15:54.759 catching bad guys in the helicopter in his web that 246 00:15:54.919 --> 00:15:57.879 was between the twin towers and they had to remove 247 00:15:57.919 --> 00:16:02.360 it because ninety eleven happened. Uh so, yeah, there's there's 248 00:16:02.399 --> 00:16:06.200 definitely weaving and spiders going on here for sure. 249 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:09.919 I didn't know that about the deleted scene. 250 00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:12.600 Yeah, it's still in the trailer. If you look up 251 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:15.480 the original trailer for that first Spinal movie, they still 252 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:20.440 you can still watch it. Yeah, it was a helicopter 253 00:16:20.919 --> 00:16:23.159 caught in his web between the Twin towers and it 254 00:16:24.320 --> 00:16:28.519 was it's it's such a poignant kind of symbol to 255 00:16:28.679 --> 00:16:31.840 use the movie, and it's it's so interesting, but yeah, 256 00:16:31.840 --> 00:16:32.840 they removed it. 257 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:37.639 This is an interesting symbol that comes from Norse mythology. 258 00:16:37.679 --> 00:16:41.240 They don't really have a good name for it because 259 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:45.039 it didn't really become accompanied with any sort of explanation. 260 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:48.120 But this is the vault nut, and the vultnut is 261 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:52.320 these three triangles that make this not right. And so 262 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:55.879 the vult nut represents not only the nine worlds and 263 00:16:55.919 --> 00:16:59.320 each one of those different triangles, but it's also under 264 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:04.599 the legs of sleep near Odin's horse, right, So you've 265 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:09.319 got this idea of movement of mind, you know, associated 266 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:13.480 with Odin, and also the idea of sacrifices also included 267 00:17:13.519 --> 00:17:17.000 in sacrifice depictions. So you've got this idea of the 268 00:17:17.039 --> 00:17:22.400 three fates sort of coming together producing these these different worlds, 269 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:27.119 the nine worlds of the Norse mythology. So the idea 270 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:30.400 of weaving is so central to these sort of pre 271 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:33.480 Christian faiths, as you were talking about with the Greek 272 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:37.920 mythology too, you've got the three fates, the one who measures, 273 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:42.160 the one who cuts, the one who weaves. So these 274 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:46.480 symbols are so central to the core of their understanding 275 00:17:46.519 --> 00:17:49.440 of fate and how to interact with the world around 276 00:17:49.480 --> 00:17:52.960 them that I think it's shouldn't be something that's passed up. 277 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:55.480 We don't really have an equivalent in today's society, but 278 00:17:55.839 --> 00:17:57.839 I think a lot of people are taking advantage of 279 00:17:57.839 --> 00:18:00.599 that fact because if you can't see it, you can't 280 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:03.359 recognize what's going on. You can't see the weaving as 281 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:06.279 it's happening. And we can see this with numbers too, especially. 282 00:18:06.839 --> 00:18:07.160 Uh. 283 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:12.400 The idea of understanding a weave is called topology. And 284 00:18:12.480 --> 00:18:16.599 so by intersecting a lot of these different numerical values 285 00:18:16.599 --> 00:18:20.440 and these different ideas into a weave, what you're doing 286 00:18:20.519 --> 00:18:23.359 is you're changing the course of fate using will. So 287 00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:25.519 I thought that was kind of relevant there. 288 00:18:25.799 --> 00:18:28.519 Yeah, yeah, I think you for bringing that up. Yeah, 289 00:18:28.559 --> 00:18:32.680 that's and that stayed, you know, post Christianity. That's why 290 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:37.559 the Celtic crosses still have nots in them. And they 291 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:40.079 did that just got moved on to a different trinity, right. 292 00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:45.720 But es, since we're talking about as fireman, to bring 293 00:18:45.799 --> 00:18:49.160 up you know what is how it's still in our 294 00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:55.599 pop culture that guy today. Uh uh. I'm going to 295 00:18:55.680 --> 00:18:58.039 write on a kind of be a comic book nerd 296 00:18:58.119 --> 00:19:01.359 for a second year, but it's it's you know, we 297 00:19:01.359 --> 00:19:05.279 we in communities like ours. We talked about how the 298 00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:13.160 new uh pantheon of God's is superheroes, and it's not 299 00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:18.200 there's not any better example than that than the Spider 300 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:24.680 Man character. I think so the spie the Spider Man 301 00:19:25.319 --> 00:19:30.240 mythos takes and harnesses everything that we're talking about with 302 00:19:30.359 --> 00:19:39.680 the Spider Man symbol. So in uh, this Spider Verse mythology, 303 00:19:41.720 --> 00:19:50.079 we have this idea of a a spider verse, any 304 00:19:50.480 --> 00:19:58.400 interconnected webs, right of mostly verses, and well, I think 305 00:19:58.400 --> 00:20:02.759 it's it's interesting is if you watch the Latest Across 306 00:20:02.799 --> 00:20:05.960 the Spider Verse film, Uh, there's a character refer to 307 00:20:06.559 --> 00:20:09.880 Mogrel Miguel O'Hara or Spider Man twenty ninety nine. He's 308 00:20:09.880 --> 00:20:13.359 like a play runner futuristic Spider Man. He brings all 309 00:20:13.480 --> 00:20:17.359 the Spider society to his hollow deck kind of ar room, 310 00:20:17.799 --> 00:20:21.799 and he goes over this idea of a multiverse, and 311 00:20:21.920 --> 00:20:25.519 there's this it's all black, and then a single drop 312 00:20:26.599 --> 00:20:29.960 like dot falls from the what the ceiling would be 313 00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:34.279 and is in the center of the room, and Spider 314 00:20:34.279 --> 00:20:39.000 Man twenty ninety nine goes, this is everything, and that 315 00:20:39.039 --> 00:20:44.640 gets into this whole idea of a primordial you the 316 00:20:44.720 --> 00:20:48.799 stoics and Stoic physics, they would refer to it as 317 00:20:49.799 --> 00:20:55.960 the logo spermatica, and he goes, this is everything, and 318 00:20:56.039 --> 00:21:01.559 this seed, this original seed source continues to fall and 319 00:21:01.599 --> 00:21:05.640 then gets planted, and so that's the wendy and metaphysics, 320 00:21:05.720 --> 00:21:10.000 that's your one D dimension the dot or in Taoism 321 00:21:10.519 --> 00:21:14.480 that that's the non duality of everything, right, And then 322 00:21:14.519 --> 00:21:17.440 when it gets planted, it turns into a tree, which 323 00:21:17.519 --> 00:21:20.640 of course, like time wines and trees and everything, that's uh, 324 00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:24.359 you just sell. That's the tree in the Garden of Eden, 325 00:21:24.440 --> 00:21:28.880 of course, but that's like lineal time. That's the two D. 326 00:21:30.680 --> 00:21:34.480 And then from that two D perspective, that tree goes 327 00:21:34.519 --> 00:21:37.359 out in any direction and becomes a spider web and 328 00:21:37.680 --> 00:21:42.960 gets interconnected with itself, and that's where they get nexus points. 329 00:21:44.200 --> 00:21:49.559 And in this in the Spider Man mythos, they referred 330 00:21:49.559 --> 00:21:52.319 to as canon events, and those are events that have 331 00:21:52.519 --> 00:21:56.079 to happen. These are these pillars of moments that have 332 00:21:56.160 --> 00:22:02.279 to happen so time could exist, so can exist, and 333 00:22:02.319 --> 00:22:06.519 that it's like Uncle Ben dying of course is a 334 00:22:06.519 --> 00:22:09.599 big one, right. He has to give a Spider Man 335 00:22:09.640 --> 00:22:13.400 the whole. With great power comes great responsibility, moment like 336 00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:15.160 he has to have that moment. So that's the next 337 00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:22.960 event because that has to happen. And uh, Miguel o'harah 338 00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:29.839 tells Miles, the Miles Morales Spider Man, that he has 339 00:22:29.880 --> 00:22:33.960 to let certain people die. He can't stop his certain events. 340 00:22:34.119 --> 00:22:37.079 And it's all going back to this whole do we 341 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:40.640 have free will? So the whole conflict in the latest 342 00:22:40.680 --> 00:22:46.759 Spider Verse movie is Miguel O'Hara says the Spider the 343 00:22:46.839 --> 00:22:51.640 Spider people are supposed to maintain the web. What they 344 00:22:51.720 --> 00:22:53.759 refer to the Spider version of the comic is the 345 00:22:53.759 --> 00:22:56.480 webs of fade and destiny. They have to maintain the 346 00:22:56.519 --> 00:23:00.920 faith the webs of fade and destiny by making sure 347 00:23:01.039 --> 00:23:05.559 these cannon events, these next points happen and nothing prevents 348 00:23:05.680 --> 00:23:10.640 them from happening. And they don't have any free wheel 349 00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:16.440 to go on beyond that. And Miles Morales's character, who 350 00:23:16.480 --> 00:23:19.200 I mean, his last name is Larry Moral. So he's 351 00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:22.920 talking about the morality that he can't morally let stand 352 00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:29.839 by and let someone die, right, So he's all about, oh, no, 353 00:23:29.960 --> 00:23:33.079 we do have free wheel. And so that's how this 354 00:23:33.079 --> 00:23:35.960 this fighter team gets split up because half of this 355 00:23:36.039 --> 00:23:38.079 fire people say that they have free wheel and the 356 00:23:38.119 --> 00:23:42.640 other half say they're only the doers of fate and 357 00:23:43.759 --> 00:23:46.200 the brainch and I talk about we have these Lightning 358 00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:49.599 and the Bardle moments where the idea is going to 359 00:23:49.680 --> 00:23:53.400 get done. No matter who it is is, you're the 360 00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:57.680 contuent for whatever God has planned. We refer to it 361 00:23:57.799 --> 00:24:01.400 in our God to Play Right series as scripture, like 362 00:24:01.480 --> 00:24:04.400 you have to you know, God gives you a script 363 00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:07.279 and then you have to go by it. And yeah, 364 00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:10.880 you can improve, which is free will, but you have 365 00:24:10.960 --> 00:24:15.799 a script. You have a fate or destiny that you're 366 00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:26.519 you're entangled with. And I think stan Lee when he 367 00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:30.480 was creating the Spider Man character, he was tapping into 368 00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:35.839 this ancient symbol of the Spider and he wasn't fully 369 00:24:35.920 --> 00:24:39.039 consciously aware of it, and it's just grown through over 370 00:24:39.160 --> 00:24:44.319 time as they keep on evolving the character. And even 371 00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:54.079 Madam Webb, who is the of female Grandmother's elderly wise 372 00:24:54.160 --> 00:24:56.559 woman who's at the center of the webs of feed 373 00:24:56.599 --> 00:25:00.319 and destiny in the comics. She's a blind seer, the 374 00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:07.839 blind Oracle. She has roots in Hopey mythology with the 375 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:13.160 Grandmother Spider and even in the in they tried to 376 00:25:13.160 --> 00:25:16.519 do a matter of web movie, but they completely inverted 377 00:25:16.759 --> 00:25:20.400 the fate in that movie and sexualizes it and everything. 378 00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:26.000 And we actually have a video on our channel where 379 00:25:26.039 --> 00:25:31.240 we go over that. It's called Webs of Desire. So 380 00:25:31.319 --> 00:25:35.359 if anyone wanted to hear us talk about that fiasco 381 00:25:35.480 --> 00:25:38.240 of a movie, we we do talk about it. But 382 00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:42.559 in that movie, one of the it was very meanable 383 00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:46.000 of a movie because how bad it was. In that movie, 384 00:25:46.680 --> 00:25:52.240 they bring in this idea of uh South American tribe 385 00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:57.880 of people who were spiders, and that also has roots 386 00:25:57.920 --> 00:26:03.680 in our reality with I am probably pronounturing this wrong. 387 00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:09.720 There's a South American tribe called the Praya. Again I'm 388 00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:14.039 probably butchering that pronunciation, but it's a native tribe in 389 00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:19.559 South America who their shamans used transha of venom to 390 00:26:19.640 --> 00:26:23.200 go on their shamanistic journeys and there. So there's a 391 00:26:23.319 --> 00:26:28.759 documentary about them and that's really fascinating and they commune 392 00:26:28.960 --> 00:26:31.480 with this like this this spider entity. So whether it's 393 00:26:31.480 --> 00:26:36.400 North America or South America, there's this idea of a 394 00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:40.279 grandmother spider and that's what mountam Web is for the 395 00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:46.839 Spider society. So there Stanley is was tapping into something. 396 00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:50.640 And to finish up here about this Spider Man connection. 397 00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:54.559 You know, one thing I did want to add just 398 00:26:54.599 --> 00:26:56.359 real quick, that you had mentioned there's something that was 399 00:26:56.400 --> 00:26:58.559 going to bring up you're talking about like the venom 400 00:26:58.599 --> 00:27:02.440 and stuff that is like that has been I think 401 00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:06.119 like an idea about some spider symbolism that sometimes it 402 00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:12.039 could be being used for knowledge because you know, most venoms, 403 00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:14.200 if you do actually use it at a certain dose, 404 00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:18.279 can actually heal. So and that's like the unknown knowledge 405 00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:22.400 about the venom, you know what I'm saying, unknown understandings. 406 00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:24.799 So I have you know, you mentioned it before, I 407 00:27:24.839 --> 00:27:28.200 have heard of that idea of that understanding that venoms 408 00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:32.160 can actually heal is a reason to use Spider's a symbolism. 409 00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:36.200 Yeah, and that's why, like the idea of you taking 410 00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:39.680 a certain like poison or venom over and over in 411 00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:43.759 small doses can build up your resistance to that being 412 00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:47.559 used against you as as well. Yeah. I think there's 413 00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:51.920 a a tribe of spider people I just looked it 414 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:57.880 up in Peru that apparently gained a racknid abilities from 415 00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:00.880 the venom of a species of spots that are native 416 00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:04.039 to that region. You have the Lakota people as well 417 00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:10.599 who actually talk about this spider deity being a trickster god. 418 00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:16.119 His name is Iktomi. I think represents both good and bad. 419 00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:19.960 You mentioned duality earlier. You see that a lot in 420 00:28:20.039 --> 00:28:24.880 this in animal symbolism. A lot of the symbolism has 421 00:28:24.920 --> 00:28:28.079 to do with our animal natures of ourselves, right, Like 422 00:28:28.160 --> 00:28:31.599 our lower natures are carnal. I guess you could say 423 00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:39.039 animalistic desires and stuff. So yeah, I've seen that a 424 00:28:39.039 --> 00:28:42.519 bunch with spiders just being known as like a kind 425 00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:43.480 of trickster deity. 426 00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:52.319 Yeah, yeah, they're very much tricksters. And the two things 427 00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:58.519 that I've gathered from spider mythology is one, like you said, 428 00:28:58.519 --> 00:29:04.319 they're tricksters, and to the the always and this connects 429 00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:09.119 to the whole fate idea always in guard of some 430 00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:12.400 kind of faith or script. A lot of these. I 431 00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:19.519 believe it's the African an uh mythology missing up with 432 00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:27.720 another one. I believe it's ann that's African. Yeah, you're right, yeah, yeah, 433 00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:33.640 that was the one. And this is a common where there. 434 00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:37.200 They're painted like a great book or a great script 435 00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:41.759 of or comb of how the story of the world, and. 436 00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:45.480 They're there and there they have this knowledge, this this 437 00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:52.559 no how supposed to go and there're the guardians of that. 438 00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:58.079 And then usually the trip where the trick shut part 439 00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:06.039 comes in is we that notice kind of go off the. 440 00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:09.720 Relative power, right, they don't they don't have the Uncle 441 00:30:09.720 --> 00:30:14.559 Ben to tell them where the great power comes. Grace responsibility. Yeah, 442 00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:19.599 they really be super really yeah. Yeah, and they will 443 00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:23.359 usually fall from grace in a trick shorty way by 444 00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:27.720 thinking that they can control faith because they have this 445 00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:31.960 access to the knowledge, to this, they can weave their 446 00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:34.920 own webs, that they can weave their own they can 447 00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:37.799 weave their own webs, and they usually get cursed by 448 00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:42.359 becoming some kind of mythological spider creature. 449 00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:47.240 Monster like Neith in Egypt. Yeah, or neath, I don't 450 00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:50.160 know how you pronounce it. That's very interesting. 451 00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:50.400 Man. 452 00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:57.240 In this book Ovid's Metamorphosis, which was like seventy seventeen AD, right, 453 00:30:57.279 --> 00:31:00.119 it was really early on, he goes into the it 454 00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:06.119 of Minerva or Athena and a Rockney and a Rockney. 455 00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:09.559 This is in book six of Metamorphosis. He talks about 456 00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:13.279 how this this woman who was bragging about how much 457 00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:16.680 she was the best weaver in the world, and so 458 00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:23.359 she challenged Minerva or Athena to a weaving competition and lost. 459 00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:28.720 And then Athena, as a a rockney is about to 460 00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:33.480 hang herself, Athena transforms her into a spider. And what 461 00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:35.799 was really interesting is I was painting the other day 462 00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:38.119 and if you can kind of see that on the cover, 463 00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:41.960 my stencil got on there, and it looks like there 464 00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:45.319 are webs tying this person who's staring into the into 465 00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:48.599 the void to some sort of fate. So it kind 466 00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:50.319 of matched up pretty well. 467 00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:56.960 Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, Branch, there's there's a biblical aspect 468 00:31:57.000 --> 00:31:59.039 to the spider. Two do you want to hop in 469 00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:01.599 here and we to the biblical aspect of it? 470 00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:02.319 Yeah? 471 00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:09.599 Bright, Yeah, sure. The most popular reference would probably probably 472 00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:13.759 be in Proverbs, chapter thirty, verse twenty eight. And so 473 00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:20.799 I think I have that here. Yeah, so I wasn't 474 00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:24.880 instantly prepared. My apologies, but I do have it. 475 00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:28.240 Actually, I'll have to look for it. 476 00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:32.359 But anyway, what it basically says is the spider makes 477 00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:36.160 its web in king's palaces. So it's to imply that 478 00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:41.519 no matter how many servants the king has toiling away 479 00:32:41.519 --> 00:32:44.799 in his castle keeping it spotless, there's going to be 480 00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:49.839 that you know, somewhere that can't be easily reached, and 481 00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:56.559 the spider's there and it's able to basically enjoy hearing 482 00:32:56.720 --> 00:32:59.640 what's going on in the court right, which is a 483 00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:04.279 very privileged space. And so it's almost got this concept 484 00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:08.400 of eaves dropping because the term east dropping comes from 485 00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:14.599 hanging from the eaves right like a spider does. And 486 00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:16.599 in fact, that's kind of tied to the lure of 487 00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:21.880 shooting stars too, because in Solomon's Testament, when he's talking 488 00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:24.440 to the demons in the dialogues, they some of them 489 00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:27.319 will explain the nature of falling stars and that they're 490 00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:31.960 actually eaves dropping, but fall from heaven because they have 491 00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:34.039 no they don't have the strength to remain up there 492 00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:36.119 and listen in on what's going on in the court 493 00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:38.279 of heaven. So when I read that verse and proverbs, 494 00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:41.960 I kind of imagine it as being like analogous to 495 00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:45.799 you know, lower order spirits that maybe are trying to 496 00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:49.480 eavesdrop on heaven or the king's court as it were. 497 00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:52.440 That that was one of the verses that really jumped 498 00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:52.839 out of me. 499 00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:55.759 Yeah, I have I pulled it up here so I 500 00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:59.920 can read it for you. It says the spiders take 501 00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:03.680 get hold with her hands, and on the thread she spins, 502 00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:08.440 or on the flies and bees she catches in her web. 503 00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:13.320 This is a small creature, very yet very wise. What 504 00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:17.280 a curious thread does she spin? What a fine web 505 00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:18.079 does she weave? 506 00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:18.800 With? 507 00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:27.280 What extensions and proportions? Is it framed as if she's 508 00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:37.480 understood the role of mathematics and architecture. Yeah, it's all 509 00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:40.679 about this fire tickets hold of her hand in the 510 00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:44.960 King's palace. Yeah, so's it's talked about in God's court. 511 00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:46.719 There's this eaves dropping spider. 512 00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:49.639 Awesome. 513 00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:52.360 Yeah, I would have never really made the connection between 514 00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:55.559 shooting stars, how I saw that in the Testaments Solomon, 515 00:34:55.639 --> 00:34:58.159 that they both have that eavesdropping quality, which in the 516 00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:02.599 masonry they were to those as cowens. So the tyler 517 00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:07.559 at the door, you know, he probably would be cleaning 518 00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:10.920 cobwebs and stuff too, I'd imagine. But there's some figures 519 00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:14.159 sometimes whose job is to keep those est droppers away. 520 00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:19.159 So whether it be Heimdahl on the Byfrost bridge or 521 00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:22.039 the tyler at the Masonic door or whatever. You know, 522 00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:25.000 you got a bodyguard at the velvet rope for the 523 00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:27.639 nightclub anyway. 524 00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:34.719 Yeah, and that also gets us to of course Bohemian 525 00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:37.679 grove and breathing spiders come out here. 526 00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:43.320 They That was perfect, Yeah right, Yeah, I was going 527 00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:47.079 to say something to what Headless said about Minerva also 528 00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:55.639 being represented as the al in Bohemian Grove directed right 529 00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:58.679 to the spiders as well. So I kind of find 530 00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:01.480 that a little interesting. How you know, you got both 531 00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:04.199 those symbolisms at one place. 532 00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:09.840 Yeah, right, But the idea there is that you've got 533 00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:12.599 this wisdom on one hand and then you've got the 534 00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:17.039 hubris on the other. Right between the two, that's when you, 535 00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:19.960 you know, you find this trickster entity is are you 536 00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:22.840 exercising wisdom or are you exercising hubris? 537 00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:27.880 Dude, well, you brought up the bohemian growth things. So 538 00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:30.360 if you think about it, Alex Jones was very much 539 00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:34.960 like a spider. They don't want those folks around, and 540 00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:37.679 so if you're hanging out spying on them, I mean 541 00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:41.360 you kind of embodying what they don't want around, you know. 542 00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:44.960 So yeah, I feel like Proverbs really captures that because 543 00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:47.159 in a way, when they're all there gathered, that's like 544 00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:50.719 the king's court, right, and the owl is speaking to 545 00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:53.559 them and all, So it kind of contrasts symbolism of 546 00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:56.559 the owl to the spider there too, because spiders aren't 547 00:36:56.599 --> 00:36:59.760 necessarily diurnal or nocturnal. 548 00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:06.280 They just choose to stay in dark corners. Going back 549 00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:09.760 to what Nick said earlier, Yeah, I have this Manly 550 00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:15.199 Palmer Hall little book that I've reviewed before on occult 551 00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:19.320 symbolism of animals and has an insect chapter and it says, uh, yeah, 552 00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:21.920 it shape makes it an appropriate emblem of the nerve 553 00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:27.559 of the nerve nerve flexus and the ganglia and the 554 00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:32.400 human body. Yeah, Nick, so you had something there. 555 00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:37.440 It definitely starts to look like certain things that you 556 00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:39.000 can look at under a microscope. 557 00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:42.239 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 558 00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:45.239 Yeah that also makes me think of, you know, we're 559 00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:49.039 talking about Bohemian grove, so you know, we can get 560 00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:53.119 you through this idea of you know, celebrity worship and everything. 561 00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:56.639 And when I was when I would working on my 562 00:37:56.840 --> 00:38:02.760 spider symbolism a video on a channel Kokay around around 563 00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:10.760 that time there you had American horror story had a 564 00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:17.280 season called a Delegate and it had the Kardashians on it, 565 00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:21.360 and it was there like third adaption of Rosemary's Baby, 566 00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:25.320 Like they adapted this story like three times in that 567 00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:30.960 series for some reason, but they used spiders to promote 568 00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:36.440 that season, and her pregnant belly was a spider, and 569 00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:40.440 then the doctor's goggles with the spider's eyes and everything, 570 00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:46.360 and they so they interconnected this whole idea of, you know, 571 00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:54.480 a child's sacrifice with controlling your fate. So I think 572 00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:55.360 that's interesting. 573 00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:56.440 And then. 574 00:38:58.639 --> 00:39:01.679 Around that same time, you had ujah Cat who went 575 00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:05.920 fully demonic, and while she was going fully demonic, her 576 00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:10.960 Instagram profile was of a spider. And then she went 577 00:39:11.079 --> 00:39:14.840 to some awards show in the really scantly dress of 578 00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:20.679 cobweb dress and everything. And then you had Dune and 579 00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:27.639 they had that weird bdsm bdsm spider creature on the 580 00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:34.360 Harkenin's planet that the Baron had. It was really weird. 581 00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:37.280 And around the same time, so he had all this 582 00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:40.920 dark spider symbolism and pup culture. 583 00:39:41.719 --> 00:39:43.679 Was this at the same time that that movie came 584 00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:46.880 out with Adam Sandler and He's in space. 585 00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:50.440 Yeah that was shortly before that happened. Yeah, he had 586 00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:54.039 he had all this stuff happening in pup culture where 587 00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:57.400 they was they was kind of tipping their hat to 588 00:39:57.519 --> 00:40:00.480 weaving fate in a way in the dark kind of 589 00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:04.360 with this sense. It was the dark side of the trickster, 590 00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:07.599 you could say for sure, Well you could. 591 00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:10.920 Almost say that in the story of Peter Parker when 592 00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:15.039 he gets bit by the Spider, he's being bitten by fate, right, 593 00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:17.639 and that's weaving a new fate for him. So it's 594 00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:20.519 almost like the call to adventure is coming through the 595 00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:21.679 Spider symbolism. 596 00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:29.199 Yes, yes, definitely, and part of that as well after 597 00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:31.800 he gets bit by the Spider, and the Spider Verse 598 00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:35.320 movie does this shows this so well, And that's why 599 00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:37.639 I love the anime Spider Verse movie because they have 600 00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:41.440 it's such a good example of it. Once once they 601 00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:44.760 get bit by the Spider, they get no sic where 602 00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:49.760 they can they can hear the narration. They're the internal dialogue, 603 00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:52.599 and he's like freaking out because he's just like, what 604 00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:55.760 is that voice and everything and that that is that 605 00:40:56.000 --> 00:40:58.760 plays into the Spider the Spider sense, you know, the 606 00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:01.679 spiy senses is he refers to it, and so he's like, 607 00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:04.760 where's that voice coming from, and it's like he's hearing 608 00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:09.400 then their narrator of his story of his fate that's 609 00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:10.679 being being woven. 610 00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:14.159 Couldn't be interpreted as our lower or higher selves as 611 00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:17.400 well talking to us and kind of being our conscious. 612 00:41:18.280 --> 00:41:21.000 Uh, somebody just had a magical experience. 613 00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:22.360 Yeah. 614 00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:25.440 Uh, you know I've always always interested with Peter Parker too. 615 00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:26.559 Is his girlfriend Mary Jane. 616 00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:28.440 I've always looked at her as the scarlet horror. 617 00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:31.760 Oh she does have red hair. 618 00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:32.119 Yeah. 619 00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:34.159 And you know if you listen to if you listen 620 00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:36.320 to Mega Death's song Mary Jane, and you think of 621 00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:38.239 the horror Babylon, it's the same fucking thing. 622 00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:42.760 Oh, definitely. So that because it's He's something that the 623 00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:45.199 brain tren I talked about quite a bit, and that's 624 00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:48.119 we talk you know, we talk about archetypes and tropes 625 00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:50.800 and film and stories and everything on our chinel and 626 00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:56.400 then we bring uh bridge between writing and young this 627 00:41:56.599 --> 00:42:00.559 whole youngie youngie and idea to more of a uh 628 00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:06.840 metaphysical kind of a cult kind of uh synthesis. And 629 00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:11.039 we talked about uh this modern trope of the man 630 00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:16.159 pixie dream girl, which uh, I got to admit when 631 00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:19.760 I was a teenage teenager and a preteen, I devoured 632 00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:23.400 a lot of coming of as films and they always 633 00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:26.599 have that manic pixie dream girl trope in those films 634 00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:30.800 and kind of looking back at it, I realized that 635 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:36.239 manic picture dream girl aspect, that's uh the brainch referred 636 00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:38.639 to as a horror Babylon. I refer to it as 637 00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:41.440 like a little like kind of character. 638 00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:42.559 Same archetype. 639 00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:47.480 I think, yeah, it's like this this dark, dark feminine kind. 640 00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:51.519 Or other yep K talked about yep, yep. 641 00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:55.800 So there's definitely an aspect to that. 642 00:42:57.599 --> 00:42:59.280 And what that does. 643 00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:04.760 That's all connecting to UH initiations and the reason why 644 00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:07.360 manic picture ging girls are risen in present day from 645 00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:12.400 my understanding is UH in the sixties and seventies when 646 00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:15.800 the hippie kind of age kind of started because all 647 00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:19.800 the male initiators was either at war or fighting at 648 00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:24.119 war fighting or in the office spaces, and they wasn't 649 00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:28.760 present for their kids. So kids would after school just 650 00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:31.519 be you know, wandering the streets and everything. And then 651 00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:37.639 we seek initiation into adulthood, whether it's consciously or subconsciously. 652 00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:41.320 So they're looking for initiator. There's no male initiators around, 653 00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:44.239 but there were these these hippie women. There was these 654 00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:49.119 manic picture ging girl hippie wilder woman archetype, right, and 655 00:43:49.639 --> 00:43:55.360 there they give pseudo initiations of boys to make not 656 00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:58.920 full men, not healthy men, but like pseudo initiations into 657 00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:04.320 a pseudo kind of half asked manhood kind of thing. 658 00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:08.719 And that's what maybe Jane kind of does for Peter. 659 00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:12.000 That's the that's the duality of the relationship is that 660 00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:14.960 he's kind of that nerd and everything, and she's like, 661 00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:17.960 you know, her first line in the in the comics 662 00:44:18.159 --> 00:44:21.360 was you just hit the jack pop tiger like, and 663 00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:25.840 she's always testing him. She's that fiery aspect, so she 664 00:44:26.199 --> 00:44:28.920 she definitely is that that archetype for sure. 665 00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:33.480 Well, it's important to note the colors too, So he's, uh, 666 00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:37.559 spider Man is red, white, and blue, and that seems 667 00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:39.719 to be one of the themes in all of these things. 668 00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:43.719 Do you have any information on how relevant these colors 669 00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:45.719 are to the spider symbolism? 670 00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:46.760 I could take that. 671 00:44:47.960 --> 00:44:48.960 Oh yeah, go Branch. 672 00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:49.320 Yeah. 673 00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:53.760 I think it's alchemical because if you look at the 674 00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:57.760 key of the tarot, dude, the teeth of the key 675 00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:02.159 are red, white and blue blues. The law red is 676 00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:06.719 blood and white is the purity or the stone, which 677 00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:10.920 another name for that is Peter Petra is what it 678 00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:13.679 means stone, and so of course if you want to 679 00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:16.800 look at it fallicly, Peter is a Peter as well, 680 00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:20.920 and of course you get your stones. So tubalcane maybe 681 00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:24.480 relates to that a little bit, but anyway, that's how 682 00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:28.320 I would relate it. So maybe he's analogous to the 683 00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:33.920 full pre transformation. And then at some point he becomes 684 00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:37.719 you know, obviously he can't live a normal life, so 685 00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:39.280 in a way he's a hermit as well. 686 00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:44.360 Right. Also something to add in to that, red and 687 00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:49.039 blue together creates purple, and the purple that's the vela 688 00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:53.320 of illusion. That's the fabric of our reality. So that 689 00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:57.039 is that's your faith, that's the web. The purporle is 690 00:45:57.079 --> 00:45:59.280 the webs. And when you bring the red and blue 691 00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:05.679 to say two alchemical process you know, when the divine masculine, 692 00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:10.639 divine does the does the outcomeical marriage, you get the purporal, 693 00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:15.920 you get the web. So I I see the fabric 694 00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:19.039 of reality as like a purple kind of web. And 695 00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:23.159 that in science you have string theory, and string theories 696 00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:27.400 is all broken down into webs. And so when we're 697 00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:30.679 even in science they even agnow it's this kind of 698 00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:35.199 primordial web substance. Dude. 699 00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:37.440 The fact that y'all just brought all that up. I 700 00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:40.039 did all on my Patreon this morning, me and my 701 00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:43.719 buddy's subliminal messager. He's in the chat. I think we 702 00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:49.119 reviewed chapter three of Initiates of the Flame, and it's 703 00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:53.639 the mystery of the Alchemists. Literally everything y'all just covered 704 00:46:53.679 --> 00:46:56.719 I touched on this morning. I just find these synchronicities 705 00:46:56.760 --> 00:46:57.440 on Candy Man. 706 00:46:57.719 --> 00:47:02.480 It's wild spider symbolism. I'm gonna yeah, it's definitely. Yeah, 707 00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:04.960 that's that's that's when you know that weaving working as 708 00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:08.519 synchle mysticism. Yeah, exactly, I'm gonna have to I'm gonna 709 00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:11.960 have to check that that you're you're work into that out. 710 00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:15.119 That makes me think of one of my favorite books 711 00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:19.280 is uh Iron John, a book about man by Robert 712 00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:24.960 Bly and it's all it's all about the wild masculine 713 00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:26.840 and mel initiation. 714 00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:27.960 And he. 715 00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:32.679 He weaves this idea of the grind fairy tale of 716 00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:40.239 Iron Hans or Iron John as a symbol of initiation 717 00:47:41.239 --> 00:47:46.000 and and but it's not an initiation of the divine 718 00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:50.679 sank me hero. It's not ascension initiation. It's a decent 719 00:47:50.760 --> 00:47:54.760 in initiation and then the ascension. It's like it's the Phoenix, 720 00:47:54.920 --> 00:47:59.840 it's as sentient through uh the ash the fire read 721 00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:04.519 the Rebirth e'zactly. That's exactly. And I love that book. 722 00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:08.400 I love that work. I love talking about that topic. 723 00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:10.000 So I'm definitely gonna have to check out what you 724 00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:10.960 have to say about it. 725 00:48:11.239 --> 00:48:12.719 For su Yeah, dude, and I'm gonna have to have 726 00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:14.079 you on sometime to talk about it. 727 00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:14.239 Bro. 728 00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:16.840 I love that. I still have to get headless on 729 00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:19.480 sometime too, but yeah, you'll make it happen. 730 00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:21.000 Yeah, yeah, definitely. 731 00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:24.960 Well, nick Uh, I'm sure there's a lot of Kabbalistic 732 00:48:26.239 --> 00:48:29.760 references in the red, white, and blue, especially like the 733 00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:34.280 masculine feminine and then the white eyes having to do 734 00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:34.719 with Keather. 735 00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:37.000 Yeah, I had you even thought that too, even with 736 00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:39.360 you know, with Spider Bay, you get like the power 737 00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:41.719 of the glory and then like the white In my opinion, 738 00:48:41.800 --> 00:48:44.280 I can see that kind of being. I wouldn't say 739 00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:46.360 necessarily the middle pillar, but I mean you get the 740 00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:48.119 power in the glory, and then once you cross over 741 00:48:48.199 --> 00:48:51.079 you do get After that, you into the abyss. I 742 00:48:51.079 --> 00:48:53.199 would say you'd be going to Keather, which could be white. 743 00:48:54.400 --> 00:48:57.199 I do think there is a definitely cabalistic symbolism in 744 00:48:57.239 --> 00:48:58.360 there with a spider. 745 00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:02.239 They're always usually is and a lot of these ancient mysteries. 746 00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:05.239 It all stems back to that. You brought up the 747 00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:08.440 wild woman archetype dude, and my my wife has actually 748 00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:13.440 read this book on it. She went through this spiritual 749 00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:20.960 cleanse uh and apparently had a spider entity attached to 750 00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:23.000 her and removed. 751 00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:25.800 So there's that. 752 00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:31.239 Yeah, yeah, those those definitely I've heard stories, you know 753 00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:37.760 in studio Ghibli make another film reference to aid us 754 00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:43.920 here think of the sprites from my neighbor Todo. I 755 00:49:44.320 --> 00:49:48.280 often have heard that there there are some kind of 756 00:49:48.440 --> 00:49:55.159 like in between entities that are kind of like not 757 00:49:56.320 --> 00:49:58.760 not they can be bad, they can be good. They're 758 00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:01.559 just kind of like in between unities like the spike 759 00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:04.039 side or kind of spider like that just hang around. 760 00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:10.159 Okay when the diacal terms that would be mutable perhaps right, 761 00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:14.920 like they could be one way or the other perhaps. 762 00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:19.199 Yeah, yeah, and you go back, you go back to 763 00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:21.360 the dualistic nature of a lot of it, a lot 764 00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:25.599 of the symbolism as as well. I have a funny 765 00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:29.159 story that I'll tell real fast. Chris Matthew from Forbidden 766 00:50:29.199 --> 00:50:32.679 Knowledge News Shout out Chris. First time he came on 767 00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:35.880 my show, he told this story of this one time 768 00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:43.119 where he had dosed with psilocybin and basically met this 769 00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:46.760 entity trying it was a female entity, trying to tell 770 00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:49.679 him that she was God, and like you know, they 771 00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:51.960 always call God a man, this and that, and he 772 00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:54.440 was talking to her in his mind's eye, but you know, 773 00:50:55.159 --> 00:50:58.480 having this experience, and then he said, all of a sudden, 774 00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:01.719 he sees her head of this old lady on the 775 00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:07.559 body of this spider trying to like tangle him up 776 00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:13.079 in this web, and he immediately calls out, uh, you know, 777 00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:18.800 calls out for Christ and it it's gone, you know, 778 00:51:19.760 --> 00:51:21.639 untangles and fucking shoots off. 779 00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:28.559 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've heard stories of like like 780 00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:31.519 I guess you could say dream kind of creatures or 781 00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:34.920 dream weaverers. I guess you can refer to them as 782 00:51:35.599 --> 00:51:40.559 or uh, sleet prowess kind of creatures, being kind of 783 00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:43.719 like a or inky biss and the succubist kind of 784 00:51:43.800 --> 00:51:47.159 tacking like a spider like form. There's a but called 785 00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:53.599 Saga and there's a huntress in that comic and she's, uh, 786 00:51:54.159 --> 00:51:56.519 she has a spider body and then she's a kind 787 00:51:56.559 --> 00:52:00.960 of female torso and so, and she like she's up, 788 00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:04.559 so she's kind of like that fulterriss. But then she 789 00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:06.559 also will, like you know, will hunt you down and 790 00:52:06.639 --> 00:52:09.719 kill you. Kind of thing going on there for sure. 791 00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:11.599 And then you got in what are the rings you got? 792 00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:13.960 Is it slab or slab? 793 00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:18.199 I don't know how you have it in Harry Potter too. Yeah, 794 00:52:18.280 --> 00:52:24.599 we have the spiders that are in there. Yeah man, Yeah, 795 00:52:26.440 --> 00:52:30.119 see somebody said something, don't kill spiders. Yeah, apparently back 796 00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:33.840 in the medieval days that was considered bad luck to 797 00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:34.880 kill spiders. 798 00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:39.440 Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't kill spider if it's 799 00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:42.800 not if it's not invasive, I'm just like you. 800 00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:46.679 Can hang out, brown recluse, he's gone, he's cooked. 801 00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:47.000 Yeah. 802 00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:50.239 I had a stot to share because when Nick was 803 00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:55.280 talking about the kedder and that symbolism, I couldn't help 804 00:52:55.320 --> 00:52:57.639 but seek a lot. I know not all the time, 805 00:52:57.719 --> 00:52:59.920 of course, but how often do you see spider webs 806 00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:03.440 around bright lights? And so in a way, a web 807 00:53:03.559 --> 00:53:08.079 of a spider almost does kind of represent that someway, yeah, 808 00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:12.079 or a trap you know, the ketterers beyond it. But 809 00:53:12.199 --> 00:53:14.679 you got to get through the trap to get there, right, 810 00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:17.960 And so it makes me think also the way we 811 00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:21.800 refer to the Internet as the web, and we're all 812 00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:23.960 in the web right now, whether you're in the chat 813 00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:27.360 or here in the room with us now all in 814 00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:32.199 the web, and so just a tangential thing. It makes 815 00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:35.760 me think of Stephen King's it because he takes on 816 00:53:35.880 --> 00:53:37.880 the form of a spider at one point, and I 817 00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:43.639 see information technology it as being that spider and that 818 00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:46.760 trap and all that, because it's like they need it 819 00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:49.440 for their new world order. But in the process of 820 00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:52.559 building it, they are it's like they're creating the very 821 00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:57.199 tower that's going to fall, so we get enlightened alongside 822 00:53:57.280 --> 00:54:02.159 their progression to a new world order. So maybe that's 823 00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:05.480 part of how it falls. And in the Spider Tower 824 00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:08.119 King kind of stuff maybe comes back together because in 825 00:54:08.199 --> 00:54:09.960 that Tower card, it is the king and the Pope 826 00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:12.519 falling from the tower, right of course. 827 00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:13.039 Yeah. 828 00:54:13.599 --> 00:54:13.800 Yeah. 829 00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:17.639 Rudolph Steiner actually talked about he Rudolf Steiner had a 830 00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:21.239 prophecy that a great spider would come out of America 831 00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:25.039 and devour the world in a in a huge web. 832 00:54:25.519 --> 00:54:28.840 He basically predicted you know, the Internet, what you're describing 833 00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:32.320 and so we and that's another aspect of it is 834 00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:37.880 these techno spiders, So there's this whole other kind of weave. 835 00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:41.679 We can go on about techno spiders and the techno 836 00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:46.360 rachnets and getting into like the web brainch is talking about, 837 00:54:46.440 --> 00:54:49.960 like the Tower of Babbel or the paint Opticon and 838 00:54:50.119 --> 00:54:54.960 technocracy and all this and that. But also to bring 839 00:54:55.079 --> 00:54:59.760 it back to another reference to something in pop culture, 840 00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:04.760 there's a show called Final Space created by Owen Rogers, 841 00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:09.159 and the whole idea is they're trying to get to 842 00:55:09.960 --> 00:55:13.119 inner space, and innerspace is what is the final front tilt. 843 00:55:13.159 --> 00:55:15.360 So that's why it's called Final Space, and that's where 844 00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:19.840 the Titans are frozen, and the Titans are wanting to 845 00:55:19.920 --> 00:55:23.440 get out and just destroy the universe, and so they're 846 00:55:23.559 --> 00:55:26.760 they're they're trying to find final Space, this inner space 847 00:55:26.880 --> 00:55:31.639 kind of nexus point, and once they find the gateway 848 00:55:31.719 --> 00:55:35.159 to inner space. In that series, there's what they refer 849 00:55:35.239 --> 00:55:39.440 to as there are racknet texts and they're the Guardians 850 00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:42.519 of the Threshold. So there's definitely is is like Guardian 851 00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:47.599 of the Threshold kind of aspect to it as well. Also, 852 00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:51.960 you have the red strings of fate in Chinese culture, 853 00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:57.320 and one of my favorite saying is I'm really into 854 00:55:57.440 --> 00:56:01.280 stoicism and a lot and one of my favorite Stoic 855 00:56:02.039 --> 00:56:07.880 Latin phrases is more fotty, which means love fate, And 856 00:56:08.119 --> 00:56:13.159 is you get supposed to be this idea of loving 857 00:56:13.239 --> 00:56:15.400 your fate no matter what it is, whether it's good 858 00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:19.719 or bad, just giving appreciation that you're still drawing breath. 859 00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:25.320 Right. And there's also the idea that you need the 860 00:56:25.360 --> 00:56:28.519 wisdom to make it out of the trap, and so 861 00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:33.239 wisdom on one hand, spider on the other, and going 862 00:56:33.320 --> 00:56:36.760 towards that white light, there's a big possibility you could 863 00:56:36.760 --> 00:56:39.039 get caught up in it before ever reaching that light. 864 00:56:40.519 --> 00:56:44.159 The moss don't have the wisdom to avoid the trap well. 865 00:56:44.199 --> 00:56:47.480 And it reminds me too of how we're told to 866 00:56:48.079 --> 00:56:50.280 not straight to the left or the right, but for 867 00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:52.800 the middle. If you go through the middle of the web, 868 00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:55.719 you're not going to get caught right. So it's like 869 00:56:55.840 --> 00:56:57.800 the way out is through. You don't want to stay 870 00:56:57.840 --> 00:57:00.400 in that, you want to go through that right. 871 00:57:01.239 --> 00:57:01.440 Yeah. 872 00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:04.360 I think someone in the in the chat a little 873 00:57:04.360 --> 00:57:06.960 while ago asked if there was a connection to threading 874 00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:10.639 the needle in the eye. And that's exactly the answer 875 00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:11.800 answer that question. 876 00:57:12.360 --> 00:57:15.119 That's cool. Yeah, and we're told, you know, by Christ 877 00:57:15.239 --> 00:57:16.559 that the way is narrow, right. 878 00:57:17.119 --> 00:57:22.119 Yeah, Bingo. I think there's a lot of North Pole 879 00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:27.719 symbolism too in regards to the way out, and the 880 00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:31.639 agents always associated the North Pole with sort of like 881 00:57:31.719 --> 00:57:34.400 the way out of this place, and you know, being 882 00:57:34.599 --> 00:57:38.320 like the top wrong, above the above the mountain merw 883 00:57:39.079 --> 00:57:41.440 but getting there you had to sort of make it 884 00:57:41.519 --> 00:57:45.280 through the soul trap idea, and so there's a lot 885 00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:48.599 of things that sort of compound and add to that. 886 00:57:48.760 --> 00:57:51.039 But also you've got the Van Allen radiation belt. The 887 00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:53.960 only way out of the Van Allen radiation belt is 888 00:57:54.039 --> 00:57:56.599 through the north or South Pole. How could they have 889 00:57:56.719 --> 00:57:58.119 known that? Yeah? 890 00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:01.239 I think I think it's off. There's a synchnicity here. 891 00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:04.840 As soon as you said that symbolic studies, Mario guards 892 00:58:04.880 --> 00:58:08.920 are popping to the chat and that's that's his whole work. 893 00:58:09.039 --> 00:58:15.880 Does this whole stick right, it's northern symbolism, polar symbolism, right, 894 00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:19.880 I love it. But yeah, you're right to borrow a 895 00:58:19.960 --> 00:58:24.840 little bit from from Mario. Actually, there's this whole idea 896 00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:30.119 of the North Pole being referred to as a will 897 00:58:31.719 --> 00:58:36.480 that turned right, and you can also say that will 898 00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:39.119 is a will to a loom. So it's like the 899 00:58:39.239 --> 00:58:44.800 loom of fate. And so you're you're you're definitely onto 900 00:58:44.920 --> 00:58:49.760 something hellless about that. And what what I find so 901 00:58:50.039 --> 00:58:59.639 interesting about that is this loom of fate idea. It's 902 00:58:59.679 --> 00:59:03.159 ash He's seen in Hall Again. I like drawing connection 903 00:59:03.280 --> 00:59:06.360 to Hollywood because it's a middle ground for people. In 904 00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:10.440 the movie Wanted, there's movie with the caving bullets and everything, 905 00:59:11.079 --> 00:59:15.599 but if you actually watch that movie, the whole premise 906 00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:20.320 is these assassins are uh go after people that this 907 00:59:20.639 --> 00:59:24.719 loom that they called the loom of fate is weaving 908 00:59:25.000 --> 00:59:28.119 the names up. So if your name is woven into 909 00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:30.840 the fabric, then these assassins are going to go after you. 910 00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:34.760 And so these assassins are doing the bidding of this loom, 911 00:59:35.119 --> 00:59:40.119 but it's been taken over, it's been tampered with. There 912 00:59:40.119 --> 00:59:47.760 it's only given names that's been approved by Oh what's 913 00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:51.039 that Morgan Freeman's character. He tampered with the machine, he 914 00:59:51.159 --> 00:59:54.800 tampered with the Great Loomb. So yeah, there's this whole 915 00:59:55.000 --> 01:00:01.960 idea of Polish symbolism and really quickly another connect to 916 01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:06.480 a pulp culture that it's one of my favorite well 917 01:00:06.519 --> 01:00:10.360 I researched as one of the great modern mythologies, and 918 01:00:10.440 --> 01:00:15.639 that's I've heard the Last Airbender and it's story this 919 01:00:16.039 --> 01:00:22.119 the Avatar Aura. She lifts the veil by opening the 920 01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:26.960 portals and that's when everyone can see the stationary in 921 01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:33.400 the game. She opened uh portals. There's this whole idea 922 01:00:33.519 --> 01:00:37.199 here of what you're talking about hellas that I find 923 01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:38.519 it so interesting. 924 01:00:39.079 --> 01:00:42.760 Right, and it's it's the bipolarity, and then you know, 925 01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:46.480 it becomes the the weave of this spiritual dimension. And 926 01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:50.039 in that show specifically, it was all about these two 927 01:00:50.159 --> 01:00:55.280 different good and evil entities wrestling for eternity, and it 928 01:00:55.440 --> 01:00:59.000 was once she was able to, you know, overcome the opposites, 929 01:00:59.360 --> 01:01:02.239 that she was able to re release this this sort 930 01:01:02.280 --> 01:01:07.519 of spiritual nature onto the world that was before. You've 931 01:01:07.519 --> 01:01:09.840 also got the idea of the Golden Age in there too, 932 01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:11.920 and I'm sure a lot of this stuff has to 933 01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:15.519 do with, you know, what's what's preventing the Golden Age, 934 01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:18.320 What's what's getting in the way of it? And again 935 01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:21.239 back to that web, there's some sort of web preventing 936 01:01:21.360 --> 01:01:22.239 that from Happening. 937 01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:27.920 Yeah again, Rudolph Seiner, so many other modern people say 938 01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:32.400 that the the entity for this modern age could most 939 01:01:32.559 --> 01:01:33.719 likely be a spider. 940 01:01:34.639 --> 01:01:40.360 So yeah, was it there, branch? Wasn't there a free 941 01:01:40.440 --> 01:01:44.840 Masonic deity that had spider legs and like three heads? 942 01:01:45.679 --> 01:01:46.480 Was that debulant? 943 01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:52.119 Yeah, the frog, I'll say, But you're not taught that 944 01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:54.719 in lodge. I mean that you just have to believe 945 01:01:54.800 --> 01:01:58.199 in God, but it's not you're not told what to believe. 946 01:01:59.360 --> 01:02:03.039 But if you don't don't believe, you're not omitted into 947 01:02:03.159 --> 01:02:07.039 the lodge. But yeah, some people say at the top, 948 01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:10.920 like you know, the illuminated degrees and all the jobby On, 949 01:02:11.119 --> 01:02:14.239 which is a three syllable name. So it's if that 950 01:02:14.400 --> 01:02:16.880 is indeed the case, then it would probably be like 951 01:02:17.840 --> 01:02:22.719 the token or pass in three syllables or something like that. 952 01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:25.679 But that particular entity that you're referring to, to me 953 01:02:26.599 --> 01:02:30.079 looks like the depictions I think from the ad diction. Now, 954 01:02:30.440 --> 01:02:35.400 if we're all of ball, which looks a lot like Putin. 955 01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:40.159 If you ask me which I like Putin bat Mouth, 956 01:02:40.199 --> 01:02:42.400 and I'm just saying it does look a lot like Putin. 957 01:02:43.719 --> 01:02:46.039 I know exactly what picture you're talking about that does 958 01:02:46.119 --> 01:02:46.800 look like Putin. 959 01:02:47.119 --> 01:02:49.360 Yeah, it's a spider with a cat head a toad 960 01:02:49.400 --> 01:02:50.719 head and putin. 961 01:02:50.559 --> 01:02:55.800 Then yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Not to get confused 962 01:02:55.840 --> 01:02:58.360 with balls and bull, who is represented by the fly, 963 01:02:58.920 --> 01:03:03.719 right yeah yeah, uh well yeah, you know, they don't 964 01:03:03.719 --> 01:03:05.599 know that ball just means lord and that these are 965 01:03:05.679 --> 01:03:07.360 lords of certain you know. 966 01:03:08.079 --> 01:03:12.639 I would suggest it's probably related, however, because Bales above 967 01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:16.000 could be related to the constellation Musca, which is the fly, 968 01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:19.320 and we find that in Aries, which is where Bail 969 01:03:19.679 --> 01:03:23.079 resides in the Shimham forsh he's in the spring. He's 970 01:03:23.159 --> 01:03:25.880 like the first entity. So I would argue that they're 971 01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:28.039 probably even the same one and the same, or that 972 01:03:28.239 --> 01:03:33.199 one's slightly above the other because they're hierarchies. So one 973 01:03:33.519 --> 01:03:39.639 because bals above is king in terms of hierarchy, okay, 974 01:03:39.960 --> 01:03:43.079 whereas Lord, I don't know, you could maybe lord is 975 01:03:43.159 --> 01:03:45.719 something in his steady. 976 01:03:45.920 --> 01:03:50.199 It comes from balls zibyl uh and then translated to 977 01:03:50.480 --> 01:03:52.559 be bl zibub. 978 01:03:53.800 --> 01:03:53.960 Oh. 979 01:03:54.639 --> 01:03:59.199 Over time. You know you have baal hamon balls ziphon uh. 980 01:03:59.519 --> 01:04:00.639 You know you got a few balls. 981 01:04:01.119 --> 01:04:04.760 But again, that's going back to the alchemy of taking 982 01:04:04.840 --> 01:04:07.679 niagretto and turning it into something else. So there is 983 01:04:07.800 --> 01:04:10.079 that pattern again and again and again. I got you. 984 01:04:11.880 --> 01:04:14.480 I found out something interesting about spiders. So there's a 985 01:04:14.559 --> 01:04:18.360 certain species of spider that will actually make pets out 986 01:04:18.400 --> 01:04:22.559 of frogs. They have seen this, and that to me 987 01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:25.880 is like it just screams a cult symbolism all over it. 988 01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:29.840 So you've got this figure of transformation being taken under 989 01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:33.159 the wing of this spider character like all these different 990 01:04:33.199 --> 01:04:36.519 symbols that we've associated with it, and somehow this symbol 991 01:04:36.559 --> 01:04:41.159 of transformation is very closely linked to this spider of fate. 992 01:04:41.840 --> 01:04:45.320 So transformation and fate being sort of linked together in 993 01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:48.280 some sort of a pet master relationship. 994 01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:51.920 Well that's a lot like a familiar then, because when 995 01:04:52.480 --> 01:04:55.639 you see symbiosis occur in nature, you might it might 996 01:04:55.679 --> 01:04:57.800 be the birds on the back of an alligator or 997 01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:02.519 you know whatever, or the lamp praise on a shark. 998 01:05:02.920 --> 01:05:07.000 You often see like a dependent or some type of 999 01:05:07.079 --> 01:05:10.320 relationship like that. So there probably are spiritual implications to that. 1000 01:05:10.360 --> 01:05:14.840 I would imagine the spider will feed insects to this 1001 01:05:15.039 --> 01:05:18.840 frog and they're like, you know, pets. It kind of 1002 01:05:18.920 --> 01:05:21.639 gave me a weird feeling about like what if spiders 1003 01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:26.519 were massive and they had humans as pets, Like that 1004 01:05:26.639 --> 01:05:29.320 would be kind of an interesting book there, because it's 1005 01:05:29.360 --> 01:05:32.840 like they formed this dependency network that keeps you informed, 1006 01:05:33.079 --> 01:05:35.719 Like if we're talking about the spiritual spider and then 1007 01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:38.159 we keep going back to it to get our nourishment 1008 01:05:38.679 --> 01:05:41.719 instead of, you know, looking to ourselves and being independent. 1009 01:05:42.480 --> 01:05:45.079 Well, and I mean I kind of think that that's 1010 01:05:45.800 --> 01:05:48.559 probably how the spirits that influence things and on earth 1011 01:05:48.679 --> 01:05:51.280 or you view us as pets, right, they can only 1012 01:05:52.039 --> 01:05:53.880 influence so many of us at a time, I guess. 1013 01:05:53.960 --> 01:05:58.239 But that's the thought that kind of came into my mind. 1014 01:05:58.280 --> 01:06:00.760 But that's what's actually going on there, is it's the 1015 01:06:00.880 --> 01:06:04.960 spiders allowing the frog to basically eat the insects that 1016 01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:08.840 would otherwise attack the spiders young and eggs and things 1017 01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:12.239 like that. So it's interesting to me that the spider 1018 01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:16.360 is able to subdue its instinct and acknowledgment of the 1019 01:06:16.480 --> 01:06:19.800 symbiotic relationship. So it implies some type of intelligence is 1020 01:06:19.920 --> 01:06:24.960 actually happening here. And they're doing this nonverbally, I suppose, right, 1021 01:06:25.079 --> 01:06:28.079 So is it chemical? Like how do they know? Right? 1022 01:06:28.280 --> 01:06:33.119 So I think it's very weird because you don't think 1023 01:06:33.159 --> 01:06:36.400 of these creatures as being capable of this high form 1024 01:06:36.440 --> 01:06:39.960 of communication. But then you look around and realize, hey, no, 1025 01:06:40.119 --> 01:06:41.079 everything's talking. 1026 01:06:41.559 --> 01:06:41.719 You know. 1027 01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:45.000 The squirrels are talking to the birds, the birds are 1028 01:06:45.039 --> 01:06:48.239 talking to the you know, insects. It's all talking, and 1029 01:06:48.519 --> 01:06:50.960 we're just not aware of it because we're so inundated 1030 01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:54.039 with our own lives and our own selves that we 1031 01:06:54.119 --> 01:06:56.519 can't even see the symbolism playing out around us. 1032 01:06:56.840 --> 01:06:58.719 Or in the case of web. 1033 01:07:00.360 --> 01:07:00.599 Yeah. 1034 01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:07.440 Also you can get back with Dark Mother if you 1035 01:07:07.519 --> 01:07:11.920 watch the stop motion film core Line. The Other Mother 1036 01:07:12.119 --> 01:07:15.960 in it, its true form is a is a is 1037 01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:27.599 a spider, and she is that kind of you. 1038 01:07:27.719 --> 01:07:29.079 Mike was cutting out for a second. 1039 01:07:29.519 --> 01:07:31.719 Yeah, we lost shakes of the motorcycle. Sorry about that one. 1040 01:07:32.639 --> 01:07:35.519 Oh sorry whatever, that was America. 1041 01:07:39.679 --> 01:07:44.039 But yeah, it's that corner line that the Other Mother 1042 01:07:44.199 --> 01:07:48.119 is that dark Cansrian's mother mother Dark Mother kind of motif. 1043 01:07:48.639 --> 01:07:53.199 So there again, there there is there is wisdom, but 1044 01:07:53.400 --> 01:07:59.920 then there there is also this idea of desire, like, oh, 1045 01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:05.719 you're desiring inflammation and like are you going to get 1046 01:08:05.840 --> 01:08:08.400 bit by the hand that feeds you? Kind of motif. 1047 01:08:10.639 --> 01:08:16.560 So there's definitely this kind of tricky balance between all 1048 01:08:16.600 --> 01:08:20.319 of it. And the last culture reference I wanted to 1049 01:08:20.399 --> 01:08:26.920 bring up was in Stranger Things, the mind Flair is 1050 01:08:27.039 --> 01:08:32.920 a spider, you know, the big bad Vecna. He was 1051 01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:36.079 obsessed with spiders, and so that's when he created the 1052 01:08:38.159 --> 01:08:43.079 the bond with the mind Flare do stuff. He made 1053 01:08:43.119 --> 01:08:45.760 it take a form of a giant spider, and so 1054 01:08:46.079 --> 01:08:49.119 you know it's why the mind Flare, the final boss 1055 01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:50.039 is a giant spider. 1056 01:08:52.000 --> 01:08:57.239 Well, the optad is always associated with intelligence, right, and 1057 01:08:57.399 --> 01:09:01.119 so you've got spiders which are way more intelligent than 1058 01:09:01.159 --> 01:09:05.039 they appear. You've got octopuses way more intelligent. 1059 01:09:04.560 --> 01:09:08.479 Than they super out of this intelligence. 1060 01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:14.039 Yeah, I actually connect. I'm glad you say that because 1061 01:09:14.039 --> 01:09:19.479 I actually connect octopuses octopy with spiders. I think that 1062 01:09:19.880 --> 01:09:23.399 they're the oceanic spider. I think there there's so much 1063 01:09:24.279 --> 01:09:27.880 relative relating to one another for sure. 1064 01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:31.800 Right, and you know, eight legged things can't have a spine, 1065 01:09:32.319 --> 01:09:35.840 so there's sort of this difference in mentality that goes 1066 01:09:35.880 --> 01:09:39.640 all the way back to the cephalopods versus the vertebrates, 1067 01:09:39.680 --> 01:09:42.680 you know. And one thing that comes up for me 1068 01:09:42.960 --> 01:09:47.760 is Charlotte's Web, Right, She's writing in that web. There's 1069 01:09:47.760 --> 01:09:51.239 an intelligence there that really can't be comprehended by people, 1070 01:09:51.319 --> 01:09:53.560 and it's and it's fascinating to people. It's a pig 1071 01:09:54.119 --> 01:09:57.439 and a spider writing to people. 1072 01:09:58.199 --> 01:10:01.199 She's like telling this pigs stuff, and he's telling all 1073 01:10:01.279 --> 01:10:04.880 the other barn animals like, hey, this is what Charlotte says, 1074 01:10:05.199 --> 01:10:09.640 and they basically all follow her instructions on everything. 1075 01:10:10.279 --> 01:10:10.479 You know. 1076 01:10:11.279 --> 01:10:14.840 So if that were animal farm, does that make her 1077 01:10:14.920 --> 01:10:18.039 a propagandist or something like? I don't understand. 1078 01:10:20.359 --> 01:10:21.159 I don't know, man. 1079 01:10:22.760 --> 01:10:24.960 I'm glad you said that brand because I would actually 1080 01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:27.600 thinking the same thing, and then you said my thought out. 1081 01:10:29.800 --> 01:10:32.000 Like this is this is some pig. Well, it's like 1082 01:10:32.079 --> 01:10:34.279 when the news tells me to vote for a politician, 1083 01:10:34.359 --> 01:10:38.039 it's like, this guy's really great. You've seen that on 1084 01:10:38.119 --> 01:10:38.760 the web. Right. 1085 01:10:39.159 --> 01:10:42.000 One interesting thing I do I did fine with that movie. 1086 01:10:42.399 --> 01:10:44.279 Maybe I think a little bit more of it it 1087 01:10:44.319 --> 01:10:46.479 should be, But it does introduce the idea of death 1088 01:10:46.720 --> 01:10:47.880 to a rather young job. 1089 01:10:49.439 --> 01:10:53.119 The idea of love. I think that's a huge thing. 1090 01:10:53.159 --> 01:10:53.760 I actually believe. 1091 01:10:55.520 --> 01:10:57.960 I think that's what having a pet is really good for. 1092 01:10:58.159 --> 01:11:01.520 Two is it initiates you into that understanding because it's 1093 01:11:01.680 --> 01:11:04.760 very abstract prior to that experience, and of course if 1094 01:11:04.800 --> 01:11:07.680 it happens and you're removed from it, then it's not 1095 01:11:07.880 --> 01:11:10.600 very impactful, right. So I think that's probably why it's 1096 01:11:10.640 --> 01:11:13.880 good for people to own pets, so that you learn 1097 01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:17.560 responsibility and that you're you can have consequences from your 1098 01:11:17.600 --> 01:11:18.560 actions or inaction. 1099 01:11:20.960 --> 01:11:22.239 One thing I did want to bring up, even with 1100 01:11:22.359 --> 01:11:24.960 the Spider again was even with the venom, have you 1101 01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:27.239 ever thought about like the idea of maybe like the 1102 01:11:27.640 --> 01:11:29.840 death and half the birth, I mean the half the life, 1103 01:11:31.159 --> 01:11:32.479 you know as being a civilism. 1104 01:11:33.520 --> 01:11:36.760 Yes, of course, so you know we're talking about the 1105 01:11:36.840 --> 01:11:43.520 restings of fate and everything. I I from my understanding 1106 01:11:43.600 --> 01:11:47.239 from a lot of people who who have had obe 1107 01:11:47.439 --> 01:11:53.960 out of our experiences, they will see like a golden 1108 01:11:55.199 --> 01:11:59.439 red between their spirit body and their physical body. So 1109 01:11:59.600 --> 01:12:04.039 it's like a spiritual umbilical cord. So I think that 1110 01:12:04.399 --> 01:12:08.520 is connected to these stings of fate that interconnect all 1111 01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:13.560 of us. So I definitely think that there is a 1112 01:12:14.960 --> 01:12:19.239 like a death and rebirth aspect of the Spider. 1113 01:12:19.920 --> 01:12:23.079 I could add to that too, because technically a scorpion 1114 01:12:23.239 --> 01:12:26.680 is also interacted, and that is a very common symbol 1115 01:12:27.560 --> 01:12:31.600 for death and resurrection. But more to the point though, 1116 01:12:31.840 --> 01:12:34.680 whether it be the fang. I've never seen like a 1117 01:12:34.840 --> 01:12:38.439 figure really of the priestess holding a spider, But when 1118 01:12:38.479 --> 01:12:40.720 we see her holding a snake in her left hand, 1119 01:12:40.840 --> 01:12:43.279 or the sword or something like that, that's the sting 1120 01:12:43.359 --> 01:12:46.199 of death. So I suppose if your culture was you 1121 01:12:46.279 --> 01:12:49.439 had a very venomous spider, you know, the sting of 1122 01:12:49.520 --> 01:12:53.000 death could be administered with a spider perhaps, But that 1123 01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:58.000 venom is associated with judgment Day, which occurs in the fall, 1124 01:12:58.279 --> 01:13:03.399 according to the Jewish traditions Yam kapur. So you got 1125 01:13:03.520 --> 01:13:06.760 mercy on the right hand and spring right, and then 1126 01:13:07.319 --> 01:13:09.960 fall you got the judgment day that comes, that's the left. 1127 01:13:10.399 --> 01:13:12.760 And so if you didn't, if you weren't fruitful enough 1128 01:13:13.760 --> 01:13:17.520 to balance the scales, so to speak, of Libra that 1129 01:13:17.640 --> 01:13:20.800 she holds, then you get the sting of deaths right. 1130 01:13:20.920 --> 01:13:23.600 So in Egyptian it was your heart was lighter than 1131 01:13:23.600 --> 01:13:28.079 a feather, right, But in you know, Judaic or Christian terms, 1132 01:13:28.199 --> 01:13:29.800 it's how fruitful were you? 1133 01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:30.119 Right? 1134 01:13:32.680 --> 01:13:36.560 Well, that brings up Parmenides and his little spirit voyage 1135 01:13:36.680 --> 01:13:40.960 to the Queen of the Knight. Parmanides was a philosopher 1136 01:13:41.239 --> 01:13:43.720 way way way back before, I think it was like 1137 01:13:44.079 --> 01:13:49.600 six hundred BC. And his poem on Nature brought up 1138 01:13:49.640 --> 01:13:52.880 the idea of traveling to this palace of the Queen 1139 01:13:52.920 --> 01:13:55.319 of the Knight or Nicks, and in front of the 1140 01:13:55.399 --> 01:13:58.960 queen's palace there was this figure who was holding this 1141 01:13:59.199 --> 01:14:03.079 sword and the scales. Now, Parmanides on Nature is what 1142 01:14:03.319 --> 01:14:07.560 brought us into the idea of philosophy. From him you 1143 01:14:07.720 --> 01:14:14.239 get the idea of in no contradictions like contradictions are 1144 01:14:14.319 --> 01:14:17.399 not allowed, and so from that you have science springing 1145 01:14:17.479 --> 01:14:21.039 off of philosophy in the idea that you cannot resolve 1146 01:14:21.119 --> 01:14:25.119 these contradictions, therefore you should disregard them. But in that 1147 01:14:25.319 --> 01:14:28.920 poem he talks about Alethia, which is the idea of 1148 01:14:29.119 --> 01:14:34.520 this revealed truth. And from Alethia you get this goddess 1149 01:14:34.680 --> 01:14:38.000 in Greek mythology that they made because of his poem. 1150 01:14:38.479 --> 01:14:42.920 And this Alethia is the reverse of what the Greeks 1151 01:14:43.039 --> 01:14:49.039 considered the fate of the afterlife. So in this picture 1152 01:14:49.119 --> 01:14:52.680 right here, she's holding the cup of Letha to the 1153 01:14:52.960 --> 01:14:57.640 person who is returning to this river of souls right here, 1154 01:14:58.359 --> 01:15:01.880 and by handing you this a cup of letha, it 1155 01:15:01.880 --> 01:15:04.640 would cause you to forget your other lives and then 1156 01:15:04.720 --> 01:15:08.079 return back into this world of the living. And you 1157 01:15:08.199 --> 01:15:12.920 see the red flowing through the background here, that would 1158 01:15:12.960 --> 01:15:17.079 be the indication of this blood knowledge. Right you see 1159 01:15:17.119 --> 01:15:21.039 these little golden specks in that river right there, which 1160 01:15:21.039 --> 01:15:24.319 would be this ancestral knowledge that you would gain as 1161 01:15:24.399 --> 01:15:26.760 you would return back into the world of the living. 1162 01:15:27.720 --> 01:15:31.760 That was a painting by a guy named Gustav Klimpt, 1163 01:15:31.960 --> 01:15:34.720 and that full painting was burned by the Nazis as 1164 01:15:35.560 --> 01:15:38.199 they were treating from this palace where they had amassed 1165 01:15:38.239 --> 01:15:40.560 all of these great works of art, So this thing 1166 01:15:40.640 --> 01:15:43.840 doesn't really exist anymore. So it's almost the perfect symbol 1167 01:15:44.239 --> 01:15:49.920 of this afterworld reincarnation idea. So check that out. It's 1168 01:15:49.920 --> 01:15:53.560 called medicine by Gustav Klimt, and the idea is you 1169 01:15:53.760 --> 01:15:58.840 have to have the revealed truth which overcomes that forgetfulness 1170 01:15:59.000 --> 01:15:59.960 of the afterlife. 1171 01:16:01.520 --> 01:16:03.640 Me I comment real quick, because as you were talking, 1172 01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:06.279 it reminded me of the Crucifixion of Christ when they 1173 01:16:06.359 --> 01:16:09.199 offer him the bitter vinegar cup and he denies it 1174 01:16:09.359 --> 01:16:13.840 right then he goes and returns and then goes again 1175 01:16:13.920 --> 01:16:17.079 to heaven. So there might have been some something there 1176 01:16:17.199 --> 01:16:19.399 going on, and he's like, no, I'm not coming back. 1177 01:16:19.720 --> 01:16:22.800 I'm not forgetting that or something. You know, maybe there's 1178 01:16:22.800 --> 01:16:24.119 something there that that I'll have to look at. 1179 01:16:24.199 --> 01:16:28.640 Yeah, that made me think of the faith Bolk of course, 1180 01:16:28.720 --> 01:16:31.319 because you don't drink their drink, you don't eat eat 1181 01:16:31.359 --> 01:16:34.800 their food, or communion for that matter, yea. 1182 01:16:35.319 --> 01:16:37.640 Born again those sorts. 1183 01:16:37.399 --> 01:16:43.640 Of symbolisms Hades and Persephone. Persephone eats the six pomegranate 1184 01:16:43.760 --> 01:16:46.199 seeds and for six months out of the year she's 1185 01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:49.039 to go to the underworld hip right. 1186 01:16:49.239 --> 01:16:55.079 Yeah, Yeah, that is actually interesting that you're bringing up 1187 01:16:57.399 --> 01:17:06.279 Persephony because there I just did uh of episode where 1188 01:17:06.359 --> 01:17:11.119 I reviewed UH Severance with Brightly and Raised by Giants 1189 01:17:12.000 --> 01:17:18.000 and UH Severance and the o A or both modern 1190 01:17:18.039 --> 01:17:24.520 TV shows that are inspired by Orpheus, and Uh, there's 1191 01:17:24.600 --> 01:17:35.199 this whole idea of this journey to the the underworld 1192 01:17:35.520 --> 01:17:40.800 and then back again for for knowledge. A lot of 1193 01:17:41.039 --> 01:17:54.199 your like Hellenistic and pseudo Luciferian mystery schools, even that 1194 01:17:54.920 --> 01:17:58.479 a lot of like your Bohemian grove freemasonry is all 1195 01:17:58.560 --> 01:18:03.199 kind of centered around all kind of can be traced 1196 01:18:03.279 --> 01:18:08.319 back to orphic traditions because after Orpheus came back, he 1197 01:18:08.439 --> 01:18:11.760 started a bunch of mystery schools and cults where he 1198 01:18:12.520 --> 01:18:16.159 swore off the gods, and he swore off women, and 1199 01:18:16.279 --> 01:18:18.520 he became homosexual. 1200 01:18:18.840 --> 01:18:19.359 And he was. 1201 01:18:20.920 --> 01:18:25.279 Initiating all these men into all these different kind of 1202 01:18:25.680 --> 01:18:32.359 you know, inverse practices you could say it as and 1203 01:18:35.960 --> 01:18:42.279 the like kind of gets to the the Theotical Society. 1204 01:18:43.119 --> 01:18:47.239 And there was actually a book written by a guy 1205 01:18:47.359 --> 01:18:51.760 named Edward L. Gardner. He was part of the Theoptical Society. 1206 01:18:51.840 --> 01:18:54.640 He wrote a book called The Play of Consciousness within 1207 01:18:54.800 --> 01:19:01.600 the Web, and it was all about consciousness being this 1208 01:19:02.000 --> 01:19:09.159 interconnected web interface basically like a like a human supercomputer, right, 1209 01:19:10.720 --> 01:19:19.640 and having to weave your your fate with yournosis and everything. 1210 01:19:20.720 --> 01:19:25.479 The synthesis of what the theatro Society was talking about. 1211 01:19:26.159 --> 01:19:28.800 Even that word state contains eight. 1212 01:19:29.479 --> 01:19:33.000 I just noticed, yep, eighty eight. That's why in Back 1213 01:19:33.039 --> 01:19:34.520 to the Future they had to go through eighty eight 1214 01:19:34.600 --> 01:19:37.159 miles per hours so they could time travel. 1215 01:19:38.199 --> 01:19:41.560 Eighty eight keys on the keyboard. And it was well 1216 01:19:41.680 --> 01:19:45.079 known back in the day that Moses, of all people 1217 01:19:45.640 --> 01:19:49.560 was considered to be the tutor of Orpheus, and so 1218 01:19:50.279 --> 01:19:56.239 Orpheus learned music through Moses, and so there was that 1219 01:19:56.399 --> 01:19:59.600 big cross over there between the two of them, because 1220 01:19:59.640 --> 01:20:02.760 you know, the teacher of the law is the one 1221 01:20:02.880 --> 01:20:08.159 teaching music, and that is how this resonance sort of happens. 1222 01:20:08.199 --> 01:20:11.800 It's through the laws of nature, and so Orpheus was 1223 01:20:11.840 --> 01:20:15.920 said to be, uh, the you know, student of Moses 1224 01:20:16.159 --> 01:20:16.720 of all people. 1225 01:20:18.199 --> 01:20:21.880 Another biblical figure known for his harp harp stability was 1226 01:20:22.000 --> 01:20:22.479 King David. 1227 01:20:23.520 --> 01:20:28.439 Yeah, and his his his mother was the amuse, was 1228 01:20:28.520 --> 01:20:30.720 one of the muses of music. That's right. He was 1229 01:20:30.800 --> 01:20:34.000 so good at it as well. And I think there's 1230 01:20:34.600 --> 01:20:39.199 definitely a connection between the muses in the faith. For sure, 1231 01:20:39.840 --> 01:20:43.199 there's this because when you think about it, if you're weaving, 1232 01:20:43.760 --> 01:20:47.720 you're creating art, you're creating a life of foundation for life. 1233 01:20:48.159 --> 01:20:50.359 You need amuse, and that's that's going back to the 1234 01:20:50.439 --> 01:20:55.239 whole masculine and feminine. You know, the man needs amuse 1235 01:20:55.439 --> 01:20:58.479 a reason why he's creating the life he's creating. And 1236 01:20:58.560 --> 01:21:01.119 a lot of times that that is as women as 1237 01:21:01.479 --> 01:21:12.239 the duality and beautiful the beauty of masculine and the feminine. 1238 01:21:12.960 --> 01:21:16.720 And you got eighty eight constellations, I think, right, So 1239 01:21:17.880 --> 01:21:18.720 that is that correct? 1240 01:21:19.039 --> 01:21:19.520 Pretty sure? 1241 01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:22.920 Well, that's at least according to the officials such and such. 1242 01:21:22.960 --> 01:21:25.439 I'm sure it's changed in number of the years. 1243 01:21:26.479 --> 01:21:30.600 Right, the eighty eight official ones. But before that you 1244 01:21:30.760 --> 01:21:34.439 had different constellations for the Greeks, different constellations for the Romans. 1245 01:21:34.840 --> 01:21:36.640 They all had their own spin on it, but they 1246 01:21:36.680 --> 01:21:41.479 would try to keep those twelve normalized so that you 1247 01:21:41.600 --> 01:21:44.760 could have communication between these different cultures based off of 1248 01:21:44.840 --> 01:21:49.920 the astro theological symbolism of those twelve zodiac signs which 1249 01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:53.159 the sun would travel through during the year, and the 1250 01:21:53.279 --> 01:21:57.720 sun makes a giant eight in the sky the yeah, 1251 01:21:57.760 --> 01:21:58.760 an a lima. 1252 01:22:00.640 --> 01:22:00.960 Interest. 1253 01:22:01.079 --> 01:22:06.399 Yeah. Also something that I didn't bring up earlier then, 1254 01:22:06.640 --> 01:22:10.039 one of the Nasca lines is a spider of course. 1255 01:22:11.039 --> 01:22:11.199 Yeah. 1256 01:22:11.199 --> 01:22:13.640 I saw somebody put that in the chatter that you 1257 01:22:13.680 --> 01:22:16.720 can only see it from up high, right, Yeah. 1258 01:22:18.520 --> 01:22:22.720 Interesting. So I think what's what's coming together here is 1259 01:22:22.760 --> 01:22:25.279 that if you don't mess with fate, if you don't 1260 01:22:25.319 --> 01:22:27.840 mess with the spider, the spiders won't mess with you, 1261 01:22:28.159 --> 01:22:33.479 and pretty normalized in uh, this idea of going on 1262 01:22:33.600 --> 01:22:37.319 the hero's journey is that you can reject the kind 1263 01:22:37.399 --> 01:22:41.439 of call to action, right, but you do so it's 1264 01:22:41.479 --> 01:22:44.640 your own peril and in a lot of cases. This 1265 01:22:44.840 --> 01:22:47.199 is this is what we see happening over and over again, 1266 01:22:47.359 --> 01:22:49.600 is you have to accept that call to action so 1267 01:22:49.720 --> 01:22:53.439 that you can be useful. And that's that's really what's 1268 01:22:53.479 --> 01:22:56.039 at the heart of the spider symbolism because even though 1269 01:22:56.600 --> 01:22:59.399 you know you may feel trapped by it, unless you're 1270 01:22:59.399 --> 01:23:01.960 willing to play out your role, you're not going to 1271 01:23:02.079 --> 01:23:05.159 have a role. And that's going to change your entire 1272 01:23:05.279 --> 01:23:06.560 life from that point onward. 1273 01:23:07.640 --> 01:23:10.960 Yeah, yeah, that I love that we're talking about this. 1274 01:23:11.399 --> 01:23:16.239 One of the Brandon mindis uh ongoing series on our 1275 01:23:16.319 --> 01:23:18.640 channel that we were to as God as a playwright, 1276 01:23:18.720 --> 01:23:22.439 and it's it's all about this whole world stage scripture. 1277 01:23:23.399 --> 01:23:26.920 Uh to play your part, to go on your your 1278 01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:35.119 hero's journey and uh, of course how you will, but 1279 01:23:35.239 --> 01:23:38.039 you have to do you have to dance with the faiths. Right, 1280 01:23:39.000 --> 01:23:43.279 there's there's a very delicate dance. Don't camp them. That's 1281 01:23:43.319 --> 01:23:47.920 why you don't you know, you don't, Uh, you don't 1282 01:23:48.279 --> 01:23:53.880 they are utter the words. Uh you know, it can't 1283 01:23:53.920 --> 01:23:56.560 get any worse than this or something like that, Right, 1284 01:23:56.640 --> 01:23:59.399 you don't, you don't cant Oh you want to bet 1285 01:23:59.800 --> 01:24:00.359 I can. 1286 01:24:00.399 --> 01:24:04.359 Get a lot worse it's happened to me. 1287 01:24:04.680 --> 01:24:10.800 Yeah, yeah, yeah, So yeah, you don't want to them 1288 01:24:10.800 --> 01:24:14.640 because you know you're you're putting if the whole back 1289 01:24:14.680 --> 01:24:16.760 and forth, whatever you put out in the universe, you'll 1290 01:24:16.800 --> 01:24:20.720 get back at you. So if you if you utter 1291 01:24:20.880 --> 01:24:23.479 those words, if you timpt them, then I'm gonna be like, well, 1292 01:24:23.920 --> 01:24:29.800 that's what you're asking for. And that's that's why the 1293 01:24:29.840 --> 01:24:33.479 Stoics was like, you know this, appreciate what you have. 1294 01:24:34.039 --> 01:24:36.600 You only can control your inner world, you can't control 1295 01:24:36.720 --> 01:24:39.680 the outer world. I mean, I think that's why I 1296 01:24:39.720 --> 01:24:45.640 think that this the Stokes had had the right mindset, 1297 01:24:45.840 --> 01:24:51.920 because if you practice Sicism, you're practicing dancing with the fates, 1298 01:24:52.000 --> 01:24:55.800 and you're you're practicing weaving in a sense. And it's 1299 01:24:55.800 --> 01:24:58.800 the same thing with Middle Path and Jesus, You're you're 1300 01:24:58.880 --> 01:25:02.359 doing that. Finally, ants aligned dance if you will. 1301 01:25:04.279 --> 01:25:06.880 Yeah, David was said to have danced for God actually 1302 01:25:07.159 --> 01:25:07.920 and it pleased him. 1303 01:25:10.640 --> 01:25:16.119 I found out that Stoichia is Greek for the elements, 1304 01:25:16.920 --> 01:25:23.560 and Stoichia and the Stoicism is like elementalism, and so 1305 01:25:23.680 --> 01:25:26.359 there's a big crossover between these two ideas. 1306 01:25:26.960 --> 01:25:31.560 There's stocheometry and chemistry as well. I wanted to mention 1307 01:25:31.680 --> 01:25:36.960 something about the weave of tempting fate. A lot of 1308 01:25:37.039 --> 01:25:41.479 times master artisans or whatever, they would leave imperfections in 1309 01:25:41.560 --> 01:25:45.199 their arts not to tempt quote unquote the gods or 1310 01:25:45.279 --> 01:25:48.399 whatever they are. So there was just something else on 1311 01:25:48.479 --> 01:25:48.680 an ad. 1312 01:25:49.479 --> 01:25:52.720 The Native Americans when they're doing these masterful bead works 1313 01:25:53.119 --> 01:25:57.880 would always include an off color bead, so it hap 1314 01:25:58.079 --> 01:26:00.720 to tempt the gods again, same idea. 1315 01:26:02.600 --> 01:26:05.840 Yeah, I think there's also something to do with you 1316 01:26:06.000 --> 01:26:10.079 going back to the whole incubus thatchibist, sultry aspect of 1317 01:26:10.159 --> 01:26:17.359 the spider and like the uh, you know, this whole 1318 01:26:17.439 --> 01:26:22.199 kind of uh desire aspect of the spider. You you know, 1319 01:26:22.279 --> 01:26:25.600 you don't can't fate. And also one of man's greatest 1320 01:26:26.039 --> 01:26:30.000 obstacles in life his that someone when one of his 1321 01:26:30.159 --> 01:26:36.000 main trials in his her journey oftentimes is temptation. So 1322 01:26:36.720 --> 01:26:41.399 there's definite connection between your temperament and soakism and you know, 1323 01:26:41.520 --> 01:26:49.880 mastering your temperament and temptation and tempting fate. There's there's 1324 01:26:49.920 --> 01:26:52.960 this whole thread all the way through all those ideas. 1325 01:26:54.960 --> 01:27:00.199 Might let's see that you see, like going along with 1326 01:27:00.279 --> 01:27:00.840 the lost card. 1327 01:27:03.600 --> 01:27:07.199 Yeah, extent, Yeah, I think I think it's brands that 1328 01:27:07.680 --> 01:27:11.000 that tell me it be weary of women with you know, 1329 01:27:11.199 --> 01:27:12.199 spider tattoos. 1330 01:27:13.000 --> 01:27:18.239 I mean, I'm if she's got a dagger or a 1331 01:27:18.359 --> 01:27:20.880 spider just or a scorpion, just leave it alone. 1332 01:27:24.199 --> 01:27:28.399 Makes me think of we're talking the relation between scorpions 1333 01:27:28.840 --> 01:27:31.399 also being a rackmans and you brought up that story 1334 01:27:31.399 --> 01:27:37.000 about frogs taking or spiders taking frogs as their pets. 1335 01:27:38.079 --> 01:27:40.840 That makes me think of the of the fable the 1336 01:27:40.920 --> 01:27:46.159 frog and the scorpion, you know, and the whole lesson 1337 01:27:46.239 --> 01:27:49.319 of you know, be careful your trust, like if the 1338 01:27:49.720 --> 01:27:51.600 you know, you have to judge the book by its cover, 1339 01:27:51.800 --> 01:27:53.800 because if a scorpion is coming out to you and 1340 01:27:54.199 --> 01:27:58.199 oh I'm not gonna seeing you, it's still a scorpion. 1341 01:27:58.479 --> 01:27:59.800 A spade is still a spade. 1342 01:28:00.079 --> 01:28:00.279 Yeah. 1343 01:28:00.960 --> 01:28:03.039 It's like Trump going on about his snake speech, telling 1344 01:28:03.039 --> 01:28:05.479 everybody what I was just about. 1345 01:28:05.199 --> 01:28:08.319 To say that thank you, you're right. He told us 1346 01:28:08.399 --> 01:28:09.720 that story a lot, hadn't he. 1347 01:28:10.359 --> 01:28:12.159 What's the snake speech? I want to hear it. 1348 01:28:12.479 --> 01:28:12.640 Oh. 1349 01:28:13.279 --> 01:28:15.239 He goes on about like I think some like basically 1350 01:28:15.279 --> 01:28:17.119 some old lady helps a snake and then eventually it 1351 01:28:17.199 --> 01:28:18.760 just bites her ass and she's like, why'd you do that? 1352 01:28:18.880 --> 01:28:22.680 He's like, Mitch, you knew I was a snake, and what. 1353 01:28:22.760 --> 01:28:24.920 I as got to tell his audience, you know, go 1354 01:28:25.119 --> 01:28:26.000 forward to get award. 1355 01:28:26.560 --> 01:28:30.600 Well, that's part of the karmic implications magic, right, is 1356 01:28:30.680 --> 01:28:33.479 that you got to tell them or whatever. And if 1357 01:28:33.560 --> 01:28:36.840 they just go along with it, well you're comically released 1358 01:28:36.880 --> 01:28:37.199 from that. 1359 01:28:37.399 --> 01:28:38.199 They love what he says. 1360 01:28:38.760 --> 01:28:43.880 Right, you knew I was a snake, you know. 1361 01:28:44.199 --> 01:28:48.720 Uh, even with the with the this this again with 1362 01:28:48.840 --> 01:28:51.239 the the spider that you mentioned, and then you mentioned 1363 01:28:51.239 --> 01:28:51.800 the scorpion. 1364 01:28:52.760 --> 01:28:54.560 Just one weird thing that I did think of real 1365 01:28:54.680 --> 01:28:56.359 quick is that, you know, the spider has eight eyes, 1366 01:28:56.439 --> 01:28:58.399 and it was something I didn't know about the scorpion 1367 01:28:58.439 --> 01:29:01.880 util Headless mentioned it. The shellosically one right now, So 1368 01:29:01.960 --> 01:29:03.920 I mean there is something even different with those two 1369 01:29:04.119 --> 01:29:04.800 and isolated. 1370 01:29:06.039 --> 01:29:11.159 Well, you've also got the crab, the horseshoe crab, right, 1371 01:29:11.359 --> 01:29:15.920 the entire membrane is like this eyeball, and you know 1372 01:29:16.239 --> 01:29:19.159 the the quote unquote eye stalks that they have one 1373 01:29:19.159 --> 01:29:22.960 of the most primitive forms of seeing, are underneath that shell. 1374 01:29:23.119 --> 01:29:26.199 So the whole thing is sort of looking up, and 1375 01:29:26.319 --> 01:29:29.399 it's one of the oldest animals there is. It's looking 1376 01:29:29.560 --> 01:29:31.520 up with its entire shell. 1377 01:29:34.199 --> 01:29:34.359 Yes. 1378 01:29:35.600 --> 01:29:38.960 One one thing that I have mentioned, but I think 1379 01:29:39.000 --> 01:29:44.239 you guys will will like this. There is a movie 1380 01:29:44.319 --> 01:29:47.720 called The Adjustment Bureau. This is based off of a 1381 01:29:47.840 --> 01:29:52.079 Philip Dick short storage called The Adjustment Team, and it's 1382 01:29:52.600 --> 01:30:00.920 all about the fate. Essentially. It's this this bureaucracy of 1383 01:30:01.439 --> 01:30:05.600 essentially angels. You could you could refer to them as 1384 01:30:05.920 --> 01:30:12.479 agent of fate who make sure everything goes as planned. 1385 01:30:13.239 --> 01:30:19.479 And is this whole corporate, uh angelic, spiritual bureaucracy and 1386 01:30:19.920 --> 01:30:26.039 a man whole journey of trying to go against that 1387 01:30:26.239 --> 01:30:28.720 and get what he wants, which in this case is 1388 01:30:28.760 --> 01:30:34.800 like this man picture dream girl moment where she was 1389 01:30:34.920 --> 01:30:38.000 just supposedting firing him once and he was never supposed 1390 01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:41.239 to see it again. But he's like, I gotta marry 1391 01:30:41.279 --> 01:30:44.119 this girl. I gotta marry this girl. And the whole, 1392 01:30:44.199 --> 01:30:49.920 the whole story behind it is that God has rewritten 1393 01:30:50.359 --> 01:30:54.920 the script so many times that in previous iterations they 1394 01:30:55.279 --> 01:30:59.560 was married, but he rewrote it to where they don't 1395 01:30:59.560 --> 01:31:01.960 get married because he didn't see the need for them 1396 01:31:02.000 --> 01:31:05.199 to get married. Anymore is what they allude to. There's 1397 01:31:05.239 --> 01:31:07.439 not really a reason. It's just like, well, God just 1398 01:31:07.560 --> 01:31:11.159 rewrote it. Guy's not supposed to get married anymore. She's 1399 01:31:11.199 --> 01:31:14.239 just not your fire and then disappeared from your life. 1400 01:31:14.439 --> 01:31:17.479 And he's like, no, I am, I will marry this 1401 01:31:17.960 --> 01:31:22.479 this this woman. And so he goes and goes up 1402 01:31:22.520 --> 01:31:26.600 against these agents of fate. And the reason why he's 1403 01:31:26.640 --> 01:31:30.199 able to is because they refer to it as there's 1404 01:31:30.279 --> 01:31:34.319 also chance, and they have no domain over chance, which 1405 01:31:34.439 --> 01:31:40.720 is just pre will essentially, and so he's it's it's 1406 01:31:40.800 --> 01:31:46.640 this whole like Romeo and Juliet kind of duality of 1407 01:31:48.159 --> 01:31:51.000 two people from you know, different worlds kind of colliding. 1408 01:31:52.119 --> 01:31:56.479 And I think there was something very alchemical about Romeo 1409 01:31:56.720 --> 01:32:00.000 and Juliet, and going back to the whole out chemical marriag. 1410 01:32:01.520 --> 01:32:04.359 So I think that's another connection between the two. Is 1411 01:32:04.600 --> 01:32:07.239 this story that because Philip K. Dick was a very 1412 01:32:08.000 --> 01:32:11.159 mystical person. He was he had all kinds of crazy 1413 01:32:11.319 --> 01:32:15.359 experiences and dreams and you know, all kinds of different things. 1414 01:32:15.680 --> 01:32:19.399 So well, my buddy told me he ingested high amounts 1415 01:32:19.439 --> 01:32:22.880 of vitamin C on purpose to try and induce schizophrenia. 1416 01:32:23.000 --> 01:32:28.720 So that he could tap into the spirit realm more easily. Yeah. Well, 1417 01:32:28.920 --> 01:32:31.039 in the movie you were describing reminds me of Dark 1418 01:32:31.119 --> 01:32:36.600 City as well, because there's like these entities in there 1419 01:32:36.800 --> 01:32:39.479 doing what they call queueing, where they changed the environment 1420 01:32:39.520 --> 01:32:41.199 and they would come in when people were asleep and 1421 01:32:41.600 --> 01:32:43.920 put everything back the way it was or whatever, and 1422 01:32:44.119 --> 01:32:46.800 they'd plant memories in people's heads. So, like you're talking 1423 01:32:46.800 --> 01:32:49.319 about the manic Pixie dream girl thing, Well, this guy 1424 01:32:49.359 --> 01:32:51.439 in the movie had like this image of a beach 1425 01:32:52.000 --> 01:32:54.880 vacation that he had never had, but they had put there, 1426 01:32:55.039 --> 01:32:57.399 and so that was like his fire that kept him going, you. 1427 01:32:57.439 --> 01:33:02.399 Know, Aldy's fire to get the shell beach. 1428 01:33:02.880 --> 01:33:04.920 Yeah, yeah, I see that. Man. 1429 01:33:05.079 --> 01:33:05.279 Cool. 1430 01:33:05.600 --> 01:33:10.439 Yeah, that reminds me really quick. I've talked about this 1431 01:33:10.560 --> 01:33:14.560 with the Brains before. There was a movie called Paris, 1432 01:33:14.640 --> 01:33:18.199 Texas Is by a director named Wim Winters. And this 1433 01:33:18.479 --> 01:33:21.880 is probably what references this movie all the time. It's 1434 01:33:22.640 --> 01:33:25.359 it's a movie that everyone has never seen but has 1435 01:33:25.479 --> 01:33:29.359 always seen because your favorite movies and directors and actors 1436 01:33:29.640 --> 01:33:34.960 invoke this film all the time. It's just it's an Americana, shamanistic, 1437 01:33:35.079 --> 01:33:38.399 American kind of film about this guy named Travis going 1438 01:33:38.439 --> 01:33:42.760 on this shamanistic journey to have his American dream and 1439 01:33:42.880 --> 01:33:46.520 reunite his family union. He goes to the desert and 1440 01:33:46.640 --> 01:33:49.880 everything goes on this whole psychedelic trip and everything he 1441 01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:53.319 wears a red hat. Beyonce invoked it in her in 1442 01:33:53.479 --> 01:33:58.000 her Country out her quote country album Lonad Delray Hasn't 1443 01:33:58.000 --> 01:34:01.279 invoked it multiple times in music and her song Paris Texas. 1444 01:34:03.439 --> 01:34:08.399 It was also Curtical Bain's favorite film. Curtical ban went 1445 01:34:08.479 --> 01:34:11.119 on and on and on about this film. It spoke 1446 01:34:11.239 --> 01:34:14.000 him a lot. It's very it's a very it's the 1447 01:34:14.039 --> 01:34:16.680 American mynthod it's really and what the American dream is? 1448 01:34:17.079 --> 01:34:19.600 It all have to do with this this red hat 1449 01:34:20.000 --> 01:34:29.039 Travis Shawman going on this sharmanistic journey, and yeah, Malga 1450 01:34:29.880 --> 01:34:33.920 hat has a deep connection throughout history. But another thing 1451 01:34:34.000 --> 01:34:38.199 that they're kind of weaving into their symbolism is this 1452 01:34:38.520 --> 01:34:42.439 film using the red hat Shamans and this whole idea 1453 01:34:42.479 --> 01:34:45.039 of American dream, because what is you know, what does 1454 01:34:45.159 --> 01:34:47.880 Maga's hand for make American great again? This idea of 1455 01:34:48.079 --> 01:34:53.279 the bringing back the American dream. So there's something to 1456 01:34:53.600 --> 01:34:55.720 weave on that really quick, and I turned it through 1457 01:34:55.720 --> 01:34:58.239 ad because I find that fascinating. 1458 01:34:58.880 --> 01:35:01.600 Well, you've also got the hat of the French Revolution, 1459 01:35:01.800 --> 01:35:06.199 which was this connection, way way, way, way way way. 1460 01:35:06.079 --> 01:35:11.159 Back to the what are they called frigging cap. 1461 01:35:11.319 --> 01:35:14.199 Frygian cap. There you go, and it just weaves all 1462 01:35:14.319 --> 01:35:18.479 throughout time and space, this Frygian cap, and it's it's 1463 01:35:18.800 --> 01:35:21.720 back with the maga, you know, the magas the magician, 1464 01:35:22.359 --> 01:35:24.840 and we're all putting on the magician's cap. You know, 1465 01:35:25.000 --> 01:35:26.000 there's something to that. 1466 01:35:27.279 --> 01:35:30.319 And two presidential terms is how many years? 1467 01:35:31.279 --> 01:35:31.960 Eight years? 1468 01:35:33.720 --> 01:35:34.000 Wow? 1469 01:35:35.079 --> 01:35:35.279 Yep? 1470 01:35:36.199 --> 01:35:41.000 And when tempting fate, I'll say one more kind of 1471 01:35:41.319 --> 01:35:46.159 short story here about tempting fate in America. There was 1472 01:35:46.600 --> 01:35:50.640 a story I heard about George Washington and that I 1473 01:35:50.760 --> 01:35:55.399 find super interesting, and that that he had essentially plot armor, 1474 01:35:55.479 --> 01:35:59.520 he had spiritual armor. And there's this story of I 1475 01:35:59.560 --> 01:36:01.439 guess it used to be in our history of books, 1476 01:36:01.479 --> 01:36:04.319 but they took it out because it's not invoked to 1477 01:36:04.359 --> 01:36:07.720 talk about this story anymore. And that is that George 1478 01:36:07.880 --> 01:36:16.600 Washington he had you know, he fought multiple wars battles 1479 01:36:16.680 --> 01:36:21.840 before he became president, and later in his life he 1480 01:36:22.039 --> 01:36:27.720 had this Native American I believe, which was the chief 1481 01:36:28.119 --> 01:36:31.039 who came promised he really wanted to meet him. He goes, 1482 01:36:32.439 --> 01:36:36.119 Sir Geers Washington, I'm on my deathbed and I really 1483 01:36:36.199 --> 01:36:41.920 wanted to meet you because I fought you a multiple battle. 1484 01:36:42.039 --> 01:36:44.720 Then I'm an expert marksman, and. 1485 01:36:46.479 --> 01:36:49.760 I hate you multiple times, and my men hit you 1486 01:36:49.920 --> 01:36:55.279 multiple times and you never took damage, and to the 1487 01:36:55.359 --> 01:36:58.359 point where I told my man to stop wasting their 1488 01:36:59.119 --> 01:37:01.560 ammunition on you, because. 1489 01:37:02.880 --> 01:37:07.520 I believe that you are protected by the great force 1490 01:37:07.560 --> 01:37:11.079 above for something greater in life. So it's this idea 1491 01:37:11.239 --> 01:37:15.520 that you know when someone is destined for something that 1492 01:37:15.760 --> 01:37:18.359 they're they're they're they're going they're going to have I 1493 01:37:18.399 --> 01:37:20.439 guess you can say good luck, right, because you have 1494 01:37:20.560 --> 01:37:24.079 like luck as another opponent of fates and everything. So 1495 01:37:24.239 --> 01:37:29.039 if you if you have something faded for you, if 1496 01:37:29.079 --> 01:37:34.239 you're destined for something greater, I should say you're going 1497 01:37:34.279 --> 01:37:36.039 to have good luck. You're going to have some kind 1498 01:37:36.079 --> 01:37:38.760 of what seems like spiritual plot arm or. 1499 01:37:40.520 --> 01:37:43.840 Well. That's interesting too because in the basement of the 1500 01:37:43.960 --> 01:37:47.680 Capitol Building they have a huge mural on the ceiling 1501 01:37:47.800 --> 01:37:51.800 which is called the Apotheosis of George Washington. So they 1502 01:37:51.840 --> 01:37:56.720 were including some kind of godlike symbolism around this character, 1503 01:37:56.960 --> 01:37:58.720 and it's yeah. 1504 01:37:58.520 --> 01:38:01.039 I think it's him being like in dust it into heaven. 1505 01:38:00.880 --> 01:38:04.039 Right right now, all of the Greek gods around him. 1506 01:38:04.600 --> 01:38:07.520 So there was a very very potent symbol of what 1507 01:38:07.680 --> 01:38:11.439 they were trying to create with this idea of George Washington. 1508 01:38:11.520 --> 01:38:15.279 And you've got all these stories surrounding his fate, surrounding 1509 01:38:15.359 --> 01:38:18.399 his destiny, and you know, we've lost a lot of 1510 01:38:18.479 --> 01:38:21.640 that and they don't teach it anymore because we're all 1511 01:38:21.680 --> 01:38:25.520 supposed to believe that we're bad. We're bad people. We're 1512 01:38:25.560 --> 01:38:28.319 all white, we're bad, we've got white privilege and all 1513 01:38:28.359 --> 01:38:30.439 the rest of this crime. But I think it goes 1514 01:38:30.520 --> 01:38:34.319 back to the idea that they're taking down the destiny 1515 01:38:34.960 --> 01:38:39.039 angle of America, and we're not supposed to have that destiny. 1516 01:38:39.079 --> 01:38:41.520 We're not supposed to think of ourselves like this. We're 1517 01:38:41.520 --> 01:38:44.279 supposed to be brought down to the to the level 1518 01:38:44.359 --> 01:38:47.520 of mortals and spit upon all the rest of this stuff. 1519 01:38:47.840 --> 01:38:52.119 So I don't know, maybe these script writers are looking 1520 01:38:52.239 --> 01:38:54.960 for a third act, you know, maybe that's what they're 1521 01:38:55.000 --> 01:38:55.359 going for. 1522 01:38:56.359 --> 01:39:02.720 Yeah, they're they're not only can you rewrite history, and 1523 01:39:03.479 --> 01:39:09.239 you know, you can impact generations to come. I mean 1524 01:39:09.520 --> 01:39:12.439 the way, uh, A good way of putting it is, 1525 01:39:13.359 --> 01:39:20.319 if you a way to weave alternative, if you're not 1526 01:39:20.560 --> 01:39:26.800 gonna be working with fate and flowing with fate and 1527 01:39:27.199 --> 01:39:30.680 you entering that flow state, if you're not working up 1528 01:39:30.800 --> 01:39:33.319 the current, and you're working down the current away from 1529 01:39:33.359 --> 01:39:36.560 the current, and then you're gonna have to find an 1530 01:39:36.600 --> 01:39:42.039 alternative source. And usually from what I think, that alternative 1531 01:39:42.159 --> 01:39:45.640 source is of course, rewriting history, because if you rewrite 1532 01:39:45.760 --> 01:39:51.560 history and then teachs your version, your narrative to future generations, 1533 01:39:52.119 --> 01:39:58.000 and then there whatever they do for their future is 1534 01:39:58.079 --> 01:40:00.880 going to be in line to what the read written 1535 01:40:01.520 --> 01:40:06.399 past that they rewrote. So to stop that, to break 1536 01:40:06.479 --> 01:40:10.119 from that cycle, you know, you have to go back 1537 01:40:10.159 --> 01:40:13.279 and learn true history, your true roots, good you know, 1538 01:40:13.800 --> 01:40:17.760 and all that. And I think that that's how they're 1539 01:40:18.479 --> 01:40:22.680 why these bohemian growth people are scared of the spider, 1540 01:40:23.279 --> 01:40:29.000 because they know that they're working against fate in everything 1541 01:40:29.039 --> 01:40:31.920 that they do. So when they say weave inspiders come 1542 01:40:32.000 --> 01:40:35.359 not here, they're saying, fait, stay away from us, because 1543 01:40:35.359 --> 01:40:38.920 we're working against you, because it's our will, you know, 1544 01:40:39.000 --> 01:40:43.119 alis Curley's whole thing is right, is will. They're saying 1545 01:40:43.479 --> 01:40:47.159 stay away. You know, we have minervers owl with us. 1546 01:40:47.520 --> 01:40:51.279 Stay away from us, so we can rewrite our history 1547 01:40:51.439 --> 01:40:53.640 and write our own future. 1548 01:40:53.960 --> 01:40:56.800 Kind of like the villains of Spider Man. Right, it's 1549 01:40:56.920 --> 01:41:00.600 just like Spider Man. Now, it's just like never. 1550 01:41:02.079 --> 01:41:02.359 Something. 1551 01:41:02.439 --> 01:41:04.319 Yeah, thank you for bringing that up. Something that I 1552 01:41:04.399 --> 01:41:09.239 didn't bring up about Spider Man is the movie Spider 1553 01:41:09.359 --> 01:41:12.000 Verse is different from the comics. The movie is cool, 1554 01:41:12.600 --> 01:41:15.279 but they bring out way too much sci fi kind 1555 01:41:15.319 --> 01:41:17.720 of stuff and techy, kind of transhuman this kind of 1556 01:41:18.279 --> 01:41:22.279 side of things. The comics, it's all magical. In the 1557 01:41:22.520 --> 01:41:30.720 comics of Spider Verse, the villain isn't Spot or Spider 1558 01:41:30.720 --> 01:41:34.319 Man twenty nine to nine. In the comics, it's interdimensional 1559 01:41:34.520 --> 01:41:39.479 vampires called the Inheritors that feed on not blood but 1560 01:41:40.560 --> 01:41:46.159 energetic agegoric toll bug like figures that they call totems, 1561 01:41:46.520 --> 01:41:50.800 and they are feeding on the Spider cotem because the 1562 01:41:50.880 --> 01:41:53.520 Spider symbol in the Marvel universe is like one of 1563 01:41:53.600 --> 01:41:57.520 the largest symbols, right, And so they come up with 1564 01:41:57.680 --> 01:42:01.000 this occult ritual to take the bride, which is Silk, 1565 01:42:01.079 --> 01:42:03.760 the first Spider Woman, and do this a cult ritual 1566 01:42:04.079 --> 01:42:07.319 to feed on the oldest Spider people at once across 1567 01:42:07.560 --> 01:42:12.840 the webs of Fate and devour the energy from their 1568 01:42:13.279 --> 01:42:18.239 from the great hyperstitual of the Spider. So you know 1569 01:42:18.319 --> 01:42:20.840 there is something to that, especially when you going back 1570 01:42:20.880 --> 01:42:23.399 to the whole Bohemian Grove and then working against Fate 1571 01:42:23.600 --> 01:42:27.960 sort of aspect. There is this kind of warning factions 1572 01:42:28.039 --> 01:42:28.720 that seems like. 1573 01:42:29.920 --> 01:42:32.319 Right, they have to kind of destroy the past so 1574 01:42:32.439 --> 01:42:34.960 that they can shape their future, and the whole Bohemian 1575 01:42:35.039 --> 01:42:38.319 Grove people are like, well, if we destroy the past, 1576 01:42:38.399 --> 01:42:40.199 we can keep fade away from us. But I don't 1577 01:42:40.199 --> 01:42:42.960 think it's working anymore, and it's all sort of going 1578 01:42:43.039 --> 01:42:46.119 down the tubes. So all of these different stories are 1579 01:42:46.199 --> 01:42:50.079 basically having to die along with their systems. So there's 1580 01:42:50.279 --> 01:42:54.119 there's this huge, sort of concerted effort to take everything 1581 01:42:54.199 --> 01:42:58.600 down with them, and unfortunately that includes us. So these 1582 01:42:59.039 --> 01:43:02.960 these stories that they're they're taking down are now you know, 1583 01:43:03.159 --> 01:43:04.920 basically including them as well. 1584 01:43:05.119 --> 01:43:10.159 So yeah, well you. 1585 01:43:10.159 --> 01:43:12.119 Even see that in pop culture, like, look how many 1586 01:43:12.199 --> 01:43:15.680 times are what the most recent disaster was Snow White. 1587 01:43:15.880 --> 01:43:18.760 I Mean, I know that's not like a huge cultural thing, 1588 01:43:18.840 --> 01:43:21.199 but it's the first animated movie, right, just like they 1589 01:43:21.239 --> 01:43:23.680 want to attack all these stories and drag them down 1590 01:43:24.000 --> 01:43:24.319 with them. 1591 01:43:24.359 --> 01:43:27.479 I guess right, yeah, well, so, yeah, thank you for 1592 01:43:27.560 --> 01:43:31.560 bringing that up branch snow White. Well, I think it's 1593 01:43:31.600 --> 01:43:35.359 interesting with that was snow White was released, that this 1594 01:43:35.680 --> 01:43:40.119 new iteration of snow White was released on the alleged 1595 01:43:40.319 --> 01:43:45.079 last day of the Cali Yuga. And so I joke 1596 01:43:45.199 --> 01:43:49.399 that snow White was gonna We're gonna end the Cali 1597 01:43:49.479 --> 01:43:54.640 Yuga and bringing a new age. And of course, uh, 1598 01:43:55.680 --> 01:44:00.960 Cali is often depicted on a white horse, right, and 1599 01:44:01.920 --> 01:44:04.640 uh what the snow white ride? 1600 01:44:06.359 --> 01:44:07.800 And what is. 1601 01:44:09.600 --> 01:44:13.039 A white horse exactly? And which is crazy because you know, 1602 01:44:13.960 --> 01:44:17.800 everyone's talking about the vibe shift in the zeit guy 1603 01:44:17.960 --> 01:44:21.039 since Trump won, and it's like the you know where 1604 01:44:21.159 --> 01:44:23.359 it's kind of the pendulum is swinging in the in 1605 01:44:23.439 --> 01:44:28.680 the other way a little bit energetically, and it's what 1606 01:44:28.920 --> 01:44:31.640 is it? Is it swinging away from it? It seems 1607 01:44:31.720 --> 01:44:35.239 like all the this woke crap is going kind of 1608 01:44:35.680 --> 01:44:40.399 coming out of vogue a little bit. And what what 1609 01:44:40.680 --> 01:44:44.840 is a good example of that that woke garbage failing? 1610 01:44:45.479 --> 01:44:48.319 Snow White is a good example of that of all 1611 01:44:48.399 --> 01:44:51.640 the woke ism failing, and so I think it's it's 1612 01:44:51.760 --> 01:44:58.840 interesting that Snow Snow White being released on the last 1613 01:44:58.920 --> 01:45:04.000 day of the Caliyuga, ending this whole woke era, right, 1614 01:45:04.159 --> 01:45:07.079 And so I think what the vibe shift is is 1615 01:45:07.600 --> 01:45:12.520 we're entering this this other age, this age of I 1616 01:45:12.600 --> 01:45:15.520 think what Branch would talk about as like dark maga 1617 01:45:15.720 --> 01:45:20.840 of course, right, which is its only thing. But we're 1618 01:45:21.119 --> 01:45:24.119 it's so we're going towards this dark mega thing, but 1619 01:45:24.279 --> 01:45:27.359 we're going away from this woke thing. And so I 1620 01:45:27.439 --> 01:45:31.760 think Snow White was like this, this last kind of 1621 01:45:33.880 --> 01:45:36.560 you have this death throw of of the woke age. 1622 01:45:37.239 --> 01:45:39.399 Yeah, you have Trump, who is known as like the 1623 01:45:39.479 --> 01:45:42.800 Great White Hope or whatever, being the you know, the 1624 01:45:42.960 --> 01:45:45.880 light side. Then you have the dark maga, very cabbalistic 1625 01:45:46.079 --> 01:45:48.840 as well, especially when you look into who Trump is 1626 01:45:48.920 --> 01:45:51.960 taking a lot of these orders from, right. Uh, he 1627 01:45:52.119 --> 01:45:54.359 has to go and kiss the wall and do do 1628 01:45:54.479 --> 01:45:56.760 all that all that fun stuff. 1629 01:45:58.039 --> 01:45:59.680 Do you think he'll build Do you think he'll build 1630 01:45:59.720 --> 01:46:00.399 a third Temple? 1631 01:46:00.520 --> 01:46:06.840 Sorry to cut you off, Oh, absolute, absolutely, dude. I 1632 01:46:07.000 --> 01:46:08.960 think I mean they're all they're already calling him the 1633 01:46:09.039 --> 01:46:13.680 King Cyrus, right, right, So I mean they they've made 1634 01:46:13.720 --> 01:46:16.720 a coin for him, and they're they're creating this image 1635 01:46:16.800 --> 01:46:19.800 for him, and uh and yeah, I think he is 1636 01:46:19.920 --> 01:46:23.640 definitely involved. I think Elon Musk is a moon child 1637 01:46:23.920 --> 01:46:26.640 as as well. So there's there's a lot tied in there. 1638 01:46:28.800 --> 01:46:31.760 Like you said earlier, you know, the Maga, the magus, 1639 01:46:32.439 --> 01:46:35.159 all this great work that's happening right in front of 1640 01:46:35.199 --> 01:46:37.840 our faces on this world stage, and then you really 1641 01:46:37.920 --> 01:46:39.760 have to dig into some of this stuff to kind 1642 01:46:39.800 --> 01:46:41.920 of get a grasp of what's really going on. 1643 01:46:42.279 --> 01:46:45.479 You know, well, imagine being a fly on the wall 1644 01:46:45.960 --> 01:46:48.800 or dare I say, a spider in the corner of 1645 01:46:48.920 --> 01:46:50.239 one of these rooms. 1646 01:46:51.960 --> 01:46:52.159 Yeah. 1647 01:46:53.079 --> 01:46:53.680 Absolutely. 1648 01:46:54.479 --> 01:46:58.960 The Wokism sort of represented the controlled demolition of the 1649 01:46:59.239 --> 01:47:03.600 American culture, right. It was just everything American has to die. 1650 01:47:03.760 --> 01:47:07.000 Everything is racist, everything is bad. And then you know 1651 01:47:07.159 --> 01:47:11.199 you see kind of the eleven the Towers that they've 1652 01:47:11.199 --> 01:47:14.119 been trying to destroy since two thousand and one. It's 1653 01:47:14.199 --> 01:47:17.159 not taken. People aren't taking to it. It's you know, again, 1654 01:47:17.439 --> 01:47:21.159 like in that fashion, Dearth, you don't have this progression, 1655 01:47:21.560 --> 01:47:28.399 but since you've got a little bit of a energetic insurgence, right, 1656 01:47:28.520 --> 01:47:32.000 that's that's kind of what the Trump represents in modern 1657 01:47:32.079 --> 01:47:35.039 society is this energetic insurgence. It's like, we're not going 1658 01:47:35.119 --> 01:47:37.960 to go to bed quiet. We're not going to be 1659 01:47:38.720 --> 01:47:42.079 the easily destroyed kind of culture that you want us 1660 01:47:42.119 --> 01:47:44.119 to be. We're not going to shift the way that 1661 01:47:44.239 --> 01:47:46.720 you want us to. So in a lot of ways, 1662 01:47:47.000 --> 01:47:51.840 you could say that the controlled demolition people have now 1663 01:47:51.920 --> 01:47:54.439 sort of taken a backfoot. Well, at the same time, 1664 01:47:54.840 --> 01:47:58.439 there's an undercurrent that you see happening with the Trump 1665 01:47:58.520 --> 01:48:01.239 thing that's sort of leading us back into that destruction. 1666 01:48:01.520 --> 01:48:03.600 You know, he wants to bring about that end of 1667 01:48:03.680 --> 01:48:08.239 the world that eschatology, and people aren't having it. You 1668 01:48:08.319 --> 01:48:10.760 can see it all around him. People are not having it. 1669 01:48:10.920 --> 01:48:13.039 So that's a good thing. I think in a lot 1670 01:48:13.079 --> 01:48:17.760 of ways, spiritually, it's a rejection of this controlled demolition. 1671 01:48:18.920 --> 01:48:21.680 Yeah, I'm glad you buy that. Yat. 1672 01:48:21.760 --> 01:48:25.199 I just says, he said, what about sexually blackmail and 1673 01:48:25.680 --> 01:48:33.239 wealthy your mom sorry that's his name, your mom? Yeah, Yeah, 1674 01:48:35.199 --> 01:48:39.439 And that's a black window program, right you you impay 1675 01:48:39.560 --> 01:48:41.279 ultra these these women to be. 1676 01:48:42.960 --> 01:48:48.279 Assassins into honey pot, you know, of course, that's all. 1677 01:48:48.560 --> 01:48:52.439 You know, that's a lot of of movies and like 1678 01:48:52.920 --> 01:48:56.720 Marvel movies and everything as well, but in modern times, 1679 01:48:56.880 --> 01:49:00.920 it's just the Internet, right. Everyone knows you have your 1680 01:49:01.000 --> 01:49:04.000 browser history, and then like they want to blockmail you 1681 01:49:04.119 --> 01:49:07.800 with that, and you know, and who owned all the 1682 01:49:07.920 --> 01:49:12.279 VPNs right that's supposed to you know, protect us and 1683 01:49:12.399 --> 01:49:15.680 everything and and all that. Who you, hugh really owns 1684 01:49:15.800 --> 01:49:17.359 this free domain of the Internet. 1685 01:49:18.079 --> 01:49:20.119 Yea, well me, me and my buddy Jose just did 1686 01:49:20.159 --> 01:49:22.319 a deep dive on Michael Lokino in the Temple of 1687 01:49:22.439 --> 01:49:24.560 Set and how they worship the Psyche. And when you 1688 01:49:24.680 --> 01:49:28.840 look into the word psyche, it comes from uh Psyche, 1689 01:49:29.159 --> 01:49:32.399 which is a I think a Greek goddess represented by 1690 01:49:32.439 --> 01:49:38.640 a butterfly right headless. Now you see butterflies in monarch programming, 1691 01:49:39.479 --> 01:49:42.199 MK ultra all that stuff, and it's like, well, what 1692 01:49:42.319 --> 01:49:43.560 the fuck is going on here? 1693 01:49:44.720 --> 01:49:44.920 Yeah? 1694 01:49:45.000 --> 01:49:47.159 This the symbolism is used a lot more than I 1695 01:49:47.199 --> 01:49:48.039 think we know guys. 1696 01:49:48.319 --> 01:49:48.439 Uh. 1697 01:49:48.840 --> 01:49:51.920 So it's good to have these kind of certain discussions 1698 01:49:51.960 --> 01:49:53.640 on it, man, I think we can learn a lot 1699 01:49:53.720 --> 01:49:54.239 from each other. 1700 01:49:54.920 --> 01:49:56.720 Yeah, sorry, sorry. 1701 01:49:57.039 --> 01:49:57.199 Game. 1702 01:49:57.319 --> 01:50:02.359 Mythology around Psyche is her love affair with arrows. Arrows 1703 01:50:02.600 --> 01:50:06.039 love and Psyche and so these things are really late, 1704 01:50:06.239 --> 01:50:09.760 especially when you're talking about sexual blackmail. Yeah, to have 1705 01:50:09.960 --> 01:50:13.960 this love between the psyche and back to that, you know, 1706 01:50:14.119 --> 01:50:14.560 the pace. 1707 01:50:14.760 --> 01:50:17.800 But here's another layer to it. She wasn't allowed to 1708 01:50:17.840 --> 01:50:20.840 look at him. And so with these blackmail operations there's 1709 01:50:20.880 --> 01:50:24.159 always a camera they don't know as they're watching them 1710 01:50:24.199 --> 01:50:25.399 and recording, and that's. 1711 01:50:25.279 --> 01:50:30.479 So wid Yeah, it's an orphic. Yeah, it's an orphic tradition. 1712 01:50:30.680 --> 01:50:34.279 Blackmail could be seen as an orphic tradition. I'm glad 1713 01:50:34.520 --> 01:50:39.000 you brought this full like artemist angle of it up 1714 01:50:39.359 --> 01:50:42.039 because Artemis is the wild woman, so that gets back 1715 01:50:42.039 --> 01:50:45.199 to the whole like wild aspect of it. And I 1716 01:50:45.279 --> 01:50:49.279 also I think it's interesting that you brought up butterflies 1717 01:50:49.880 --> 01:50:55.119 because the branch we talked about cryptids a lot, and 1718 01:50:55.560 --> 01:51:00.119 he he likes talking. He he likes bringing up mothmane and. 1719 01:51:00.720 --> 01:51:07.119 And from the area where yeah, man, it's crazy, bro, 1720 01:51:08.479 --> 01:51:11.680 I Canmelia some moth Man memorabilia I got, I gotta 1721 01:51:11.680 --> 01:51:12.840 get you guys on man. 1722 01:51:13.479 --> 01:51:19.880 And and my and I come from more mid Midwest 1723 01:51:19.960 --> 01:51:24.039 area area. And what I referred to as the polar 1724 01:51:24.199 --> 01:51:28.039 opposite speaking of post symbolism other than Offman and that 1725 01:51:28.239 --> 01:51:31.439 is the drop on butterfly people. And what I think 1726 01:51:31.520 --> 01:51:35.119 the drop on butterfly people are are just angels, because 1727 01:51:35.119 --> 01:51:39.520 you know, there's the hierarchy of angels. There are angels 1728 01:51:39.600 --> 01:51:42.560 with eyes in their wings. So if you're not familiar 1729 01:51:42.720 --> 01:51:47.560 with the man, if you're not if you're not familiar 1730 01:51:47.640 --> 01:51:50.399 with what happened in Droplin a few years ago, there 1731 01:51:50.479 --> 01:51:53.479 was one of the largest recorded tornadoes in history. It 1732 01:51:53.560 --> 01:51:57.800 wiped out the entire town, and there all these people 1733 01:51:59.079 --> 01:52:02.520 all had a similar story of being saved by butterfly people. 1734 01:52:03.319 --> 01:52:11.479 And you say, well, maybe they're yes, and and they're 1735 01:52:12.439 --> 01:52:17.800 You could say, well, maybe they're they're talking about of angels, 1736 01:52:17.840 --> 01:52:20.560 well yeah, and which I think they are in a way, 1737 01:52:21.119 --> 01:52:24.119 But why aren't they referring to them as angels? Because 1738 01:52:24.159 --> 01:52:26.560 this is the Bible Belt, and so a lot of 1739 01:52:26.600 --> 01:52:29.359 people are still Christians, still have a Christian viewpoint of 1740 01:52:29.439 --> 01:52:32.960 what the angel looks like, but it's not typically accurate, 1741 01:52:33.039 --> 01:52:36.880 of course, So when you look at butterfly wings, you 1742 01:52:37.039 --> 01:52:39.920 have all those patterns sim more to a peacock feather 1743 01:52:40.399 --> 01:52:45.520 and which often look like eyeballs. So if they're seeing 1744 01:52:45.800 --> 01:52:49.319 these angels with eyes on their wings and they're and 1745 01:52:49.479 --> 01:52:52.119 the only but they can't comprehend it because it's not 1746 01:52:52.439 --> 01:52:57.319 in their uh modern day Christianity kind of outlook on 1747 01:52:57.399 --> 01:53:02.159 what they look like their dogma. They're the only way 1748 01:53:02.199 --> 01:53:05.479 that they can translate it is saying that it's butterfly people. 1749 01:53:06.239 --> 01:53:09.720 And so now that now that the towns rebuilt those 1750 01:53:09.960 --> 01:53:15.520 moral morals and uh, statues of butterflies and these butterfly 1751 01:53:15.640 --> 01:53:18.359 people all over this town and it's like part of 1752 01:53:18.399 --> 01:53:22.520 the war now. And so I think it's interesting, Uh 1753 01:53:23.560 --> 01:53:27.399 math Man, you know, is a harboraging of dirm He 1754 01:53:27.479 --> 01:53:33.479 comes before the contrast contrastrophe, these butterfly people came after 1755 01:53:33.640 --> 01:53:36.840 the catastrophe. So it's like the light side of these 1756 01:53:37.479 --> 01:53:38.960 of this highest. 1757 01:53:38.640 --> 01:53:43.359 Strangeness of the mall that also, sorry headless, keep interrupting, 1758 01:53:43.399 --> 01:53:46.960 you say, the math that also represents death, right, like 1759 01:53:47.199 --> 01:53:51.279 in the symbolism that we're talking about, So Silence of 1760 01:53:51.279 --> 01:53:52.840 the Lambs, that's was. 1761 01:53:52.960 --> 01:53:56.800 Also in West Virginia, same as the math. 1762 01:53:56.640 --> 01:54:00.119 Man, right, So the math Man is is linked to 1763 01:54:00.199 --> 01:54:04.600 the idea of its destruction, right, So the web of destruction, 1764 01:54:04.760 --> 01:54:07.520 it's led right to that web of destruction. And then 1765 01:54:07.600 --> 01:54:12.439 the butterfly is like transformation, merging out of you know, 1766 01:54:12.800 --> 01:54:16.720 a bad situation that Chrystal is into a greater form, 1767 01:54:17.279 --> 01:54:19.840 but you've still got the same sort of wing eye 1768 01:54:20.079 --> 01:54:22.439 symbolism on either one. So they're kind of like two 1769 01:54:22.520 --> 01:54:23.479 sides of the same coin. 1770 01:54:24.199 --> 01:54:26.159 Yeah, I think when I said to often them, I 1771 01:54:26.199 --> 01:54:28.600 think those are the angels with with the wheels with 1772 01:54:28.720 --> 01:54:33.800 the eyes sera or the fiery serpents with the eyes 1773 01:54:33.840 --> 01:54:37.680 on their wings, right, yes? Or is that the chair 1774 01:54:37.680 --> 01:54:38.800 of them? No, that's not the chair of them, that 1775 01:54:40.239 --> 01:54:42.319 the eyes on the wings. Yeah, yeah, yeah seraph. 1776 01:54:43.159 --> 01:54:43.359 Yeah. 1777 01:54:43.560 --> 01:54:47.720 Well, since you're talking about butterflies and consciousness. Uh, something 1778 01:54:47.800 --> 01:54:56.159 that I find interesting is, uh the word reality has 1779 01:54:56.239 --> 01:55:01.880 the same linguistic root as the word war tea. And 1780 01:55:02.079 --> 01:55:07.119 so when you're thinking about your kingdom, it's it's it's 1781 01:55:07.640 --> 01:55:11.760 your what your reality is, Well, it's your kingdom isn't 1782 01:55:11.880 --> 01:55:15.640 just your domain, your house, but it's everything that's in 1783 01:55:15.800 --> 01:55:22.000 your perspective. And so it's uh so when we have 1784 01:55:23.279 --> 01:55:25.640 so when you you know, when you align your chalkas 1785 01:55:25.680 --> 01:55:28.800 and you get your crown chakra and all that and 1786 01:55:28.880 --> 01:55:33.000 you stevente your your your your masculine or or your 1787 01:55:33.079 --> 01:55:38.359 feminine and you you you're fully realized human. You can 1788 01:55:38.439 --> 01:55:41.600 weave your faith, so to speak, you're the king of 1789 01:55:41.800 --> 01:55:49.439 your reality and uh to reference Lion King, which is, 1790 01:55:49.479 --> 01:55:52.239 of course, it's just adapted from Hamlet with Hamlet is 1791 01:55:52.279 --> 01:55:58.159 adapted from the Viking tell of Hamlet, so it which 1792 01:55:58.199 --> 01:56:01.479 is interesting that this story has gone on throughout time 1793 01:56:01.720 --> 01:56:05.840 from the Vikings to Shakespeare to now your Disney. But 1794 01:56:05.960 --> 01:56:11.840 there's a moment in Disney's version of this telle in 1795 01:56:11.960 --> 01:56:14.800 The Lion King where Simba is on pipe rock with 1796 01:56:15.000 --> 01:56:20.199 Mufassa and they're overlooking their kingdom and Mufoster says, everything 1797 01:56:20.239 --> 01:56:22.319 that's in the light is ours, and everything that's in 1798 01:56:22.399 --> 01:56:27.319 the darkness is not, and that speaks to the Mascal 1799 01:56:28.159 --> 01:56:33.720 word of no right saying the uh no, this is 1800 01:56:33.840 --> 01:56:36.840 I'm not welcoming this into my kingdom. I'm not welcomed 1801 01:56:37.319 --> 01:56:41.960 welcoming this into my own reality. And if you can 1802 01:56:42.079 --> 01:56:45.479 do that, then you are You're You're the head, You're 1803 01:56:45.560 --> 01:56:51.239 the king. And that's where you get this idea of 1804 01:56:52.119 --> 01:56:55.399 controlling your fate, controlling your raality, controlling your perspective, and 1805 01:56:55.439 --> 01:56:58.520 the reason why they wanted to force these narratives onto us. 1806 01:56:59.279 --> 01:57:01.840 Whether this is woke crap or whatever you want to 1807 01:57:02.520 --> 01:57:05.560 terminology you want to refer to, it as is because 1808 01:57:06.000 --> 01:57:10.399 we're we're like antainers, right, we're like satellites, So we're 1809 01:57:10.920 --> 01:57:14.359 manifesting our own reality in a way all around us. 1810 01:57:15.159 --> 01:57:18.600 And if they get enough people to go around go 1811 01:57:18.800 --> 01:57:23.199 on with their narratives, then they're then we're helping them 1812 01:57:23.279 --> 01:57:29.279 weave their reality. So because we're all tapping into their signal, Well, 1813 01:57:29.520 --> 01:57:33.039 if you're your own king, then you're like you're and 1814 01:57:33.119 --> 01:57:37.479 you're weaving your own fate. You're projecting your own reality, 1815 01:57:37.520 --> 01:57:40.680 and you're saying, no, I am not working welcoming these 1816 01:57:40.840 --> 01:57:45.199 narratives into my own reality. So that's the other part 1817 01:57:45.239 --> 01:57:46.239 of it as well. 1818 01:57:46.880 --> 01:57:48.840 They could tell us what to believe, but it's up 1819 01:57:48.880 --> 01:57:51.319 to us to believe them. That's the choice that we 1820 01:57:51.439 --> 01:57:51.920 have to make. 1821 01:57:52.319 --> 01:57:53.800 Absolutely the free will. 1822 01:57:54.800 --> 01:57:58.319 And like what you said about this controlled demolition of 1823 01:57:58.399 --> 01:58:01.800 our society, I mean Albert Pike said, and morals and dogma. 1824 01:58:02.479 --> 01:58:04.520 When they need a hero, we will give. 1825 01:58:04.439 --> 01:58:09.199 Them, right, But we don't have to accept it. 1826 01:58:09.439 --> 01:58:11.439 You know, we don't know, we don't headless. 1827 01:58:11.520 --> 01:58:11.880 I love it. 1828 01:58:14.000 --> 01:58:15.520 It feels good to not accept it. 1829 01:58:16.920 --> 01:58:17.680 It's empowering. 1830 01:58:18.399 --> 01:58:21.079 Yeah, was there anything else that of you just wanted 1831 01:58:21.079 --> 01:58:21.640 to talk about? 1832 01:58:21.800 --> 01:58:21.920 Uh? 1833 01:58:22.279 --> 01:58:25.359 Before we wrap it up. It's almost a banger, dude. Yeah, yeah, 1834 01:58:26.079 --> 01:58:27.199 this was fond. 1835 01:58:28.279 --> 01:58:29.760 I can't tell you. I mean the past. 1836 01:58:29.960 --> 01:58:31.600 You know, a few times me and you have been 1837 01:58:31.640 --> 01:58:35.479 on uh and it's it's always been a very uh 1838 01:58:36.199 --> 01:58:39.720 interesting conversation, something that I look forward to again. So 1839 01:58:40.039 --> 01:58:40.880 thank you for inviting me. 1840 01:58:40.920 --> 01:58:42.840 Always love getting you on, bro for real. 1841 01:58:43.960 --> 01:58:47.720 When we started, the clouds were just oppressive. It was 1842 01:58:47.880 --> 01:58:51.239 all rainy, and now it is a clear blue, sunny. 1843 01:58:50.960 --> 01:58:58.239 Sketty ship, headless hens headless the same here, nice man. Yeah, 1844 01:58:58.279 --> 01:59:00.039 it's funny outside. 1845 01:58:59.640 --> 01:59:03.039 Now the morning, Like I don't want a podcast anymore. 1846 01:59:04.640 --> 01:59:07.239 Yeah, listen, incredible. 1847 01:59:07.600 --> 01:59:07.760 Yeah. 1848 01:59:07.880 --> 01:59:09.960 Was there anything that that you guys wanted to at 1849 01:59:10.039 --> 01:59:11.840 least mention before we wrap it up that you thought 1850 01:59:11.960 --> 01:59:13.319 was important or are you guys good? 1851 01:59:14.199 --> 01:59:17.479 Oh no, I think I'm good. I made through all 1852 01:59:17.560 --> 01:59:22.600 my nose. I'm surprised I was actual enemy rattle on 1853 01:59:22.880 --> 01:59:25.680 so long. I know I'm long winded. 1854 01:59:26.199 --> 01:59:28.560 You're also totally fine, totally fine. 1855 01:59:28.800 --> 01:59:29.399 I didn't have you on. 1856 01:59:29.479 --> 01:59:31.560 I did want to read one thing, Nick, go for it. 1857 01:59:31.880 --> 01:59:35.000 For the magicians of the Middle Ages surrounded themselves with 1858 01:59:35.119 --> 01:59:39.640 such creatures as bats, spiders, cats, snakes, and monkeys. Because 1859 01:59:39.640 --> 01:59:43.279 they were able to appropriate the life forces of these 1860 01:59:43.319 --> 01:59:46.640 species and use them to the attainment of their own ends. 1861 01:59:47.279 --> 01:59:50.600 Some ancient schools of wisdom taught that all poisonous insects 1862 01:59:50.640 --> 01:59:53.760 and reptiles are germinated out of the evil nature of man, 1863 01:59:54.359 --> 01:59:57.399 and that when intelligent human beings no longer breed hate 1864 01:59:57.479 --> 01:59:59.720 in their own souls, there will be no more for 1865 02:00:00.319 --> 02:00:06.039 animals loasome diseases, or poisonous plants and insects. So I 1866 02:00:06.159 --> 02:00:08.439 thought that was a little something that ended. 1867 02:00:08.239 --> 02:00:11.279 Off with add to that a little bit, unless you 1868 02:00:11.439 --> 02:00:13.319 were going to say something happened. No, no, no, no. 1869 02:00:15.000 --> 02:00:18.640 This book called the Golden Ass It's often overlooked. It's 1870 02:00:18.640 --> 02:00:23.039 from second century a d. It is a babble by Apulius, 1871 02:00:23.199 --> 02:00:26.279 and in there he's got like thirty six pages of 1872 02:00:26.520 --> 02:00:32.239 the myth of Psyche and Arrows. So if you really 1873 02:00:32.279 --> 02:00:34.279 want to get to know their perspective on this whole 1874 02:00:34.359 --> 02:00:36.319 thing and see the symbolism, it's in this book that. 1875 02:00:36.439 --> 02:00:38.159 I'm about to buy it headless. I know I said 1876 02:00:38.199 --> 02:00:38.960 it last time, but. 1877 02:00:40.840 --> 02:00:43.159 At this time, sorry he did mentioned the last of 1878 02:00:43.239 --> 02:00:45.600 you are right, Yeah, yeah, that's like that. 1879 02:00:45.760 --> 02:00:45.920 Yeah. 1880 02:00:45.920 --> 02:00:47.960 I was like, I think he's that's funny. 1881 02:00:48.479 --> 02:00:49.279 Thanks, sorry, branch. 1882 02:00:49.840 --> 02:00:52.479 What what were you going to say, brother, Well, I 1883 02:00:52.520 --> 02:00:55.079 actually don't remember, but what I was going to say 1884 02:00:55.119 --> 02:00:59.520 it I didn't. But one thing I can say though, 1885 02:00:59.760 --> 02:01:03.680 is spiders can be good to add to your gardens 1886 02:01:03.760 --> 02:01:08.319 and such, because I try to practice integrated pest management, 1887 02:01:08.840 --> 02:01:13.800 so using wasps, frementous spiders. They do have a niche 1888 02:01:15.159 --> 02:01:18.199 same with snakes. So you know, I totally understand not 1889 02:01:18.319 --> 02:01:21.319 letting poisonous snakes or spiders or whatever be around, but like, 1890 02:01:21.760 --> 02:01:24.399 they do have a niche purpose. So if you're seeing 1891 02:01:24.439 --> 02:01:26.479 spiders around your house, it's all some people in the 1892 02:01:26.560 --> 02:01:29.119 chat asking like, well what does this mean? Well, if 1893 02:01:29.159 --> 02:01:31.720 you have spiders, you have bugs, because I'm not going 1894 02:01:31.800 --> 02:01:36.399 to stick around if there's no bugs, right right, right, 1895 02:01:36.680 --> 02:01:41.479 So and you know, maybe meditate the next time you meditate, 1896 02:01:41.560 --> 02:01:45.000 think about the spider because it does have some redynion 1897 02:01:45.079 --> 02:01:48.600 qualities like, for instance, they're very patient, right and resilient. 1898 02:01:48.960 --> 02:01:52.720 That all animals live outside, you know, and dure the 1899 02:01:52.800 --> 02:01:56.520 elements the way they do, so you know, every animal's 1900 02:01:56.520 --> 02:01:58.760 got something we can learn from it. And I find 1901 02:01:58.840 --> 02:02:02.439 that the twilight language, you know, like the Bible and 1902 02:02:02.520 --> 02:02:04.720 a lot of other books use there's a lot of 1903 02:02:04.760 --> 02:02:06.760 animals and trees and things like that and them. So 1904 02:02:06.800 --> 02:02:10.039 if we take time to outside the text to study 1905 02:02:10.159 --> 02:02:14.439 up on the ecology of the creature, the horticulture of 1906 02:02:14.479 --> 02:02:16.479 the plant, you know, we can oftentimes get a lot 1907 02:02:16.520 --> 02:02:18.840 of insights. So I'd just like to encourage folks to 1908 02:02:19.800 --> 02:02:22.960 remember the spider isn't all bad, because if it weren't 1909 02:02:22.960 --> 02:02:25.840 for spiders, we'd be overrun with bugs for sure. And 1910 02:02:26.359 --> 02:02:28.640 I'm sure we can all agree that we hate bugs 1911 02:02:28.680 --> 02:02:30.479 more than spiders. You're right. 1912 02:02:30.600 --> 02:02:33.199 I think that has to do with the duality of 1913 02:02:33.279 --> 02:02:37.039 all these creatures, right right, as well as the intention 1914 02:02:37.800 --> 02:02:40.720 of you know, your relationship with these spiders, like are 1915 02:02:40.760 --> 02:02:44.319 they guarding your house from other bugs that could get 1916 02:02:44.399 --> 02:02:47.399 in there and you know, tear shit up or you 1917 02:02:47.520 --> 02:02:52.039 know more dangerous spiders. I don't know, but definitely no, 1918 02:02:52.600 --> 02:02:55.279 there's you know, people look at a lot of this, 1919 02:02:55.880 --> 02:02:58.079 A lot of this knowledge is just being bad because 1920 02:02:58.079 --> 02:02:59.920 it is hidden, right. They fear what they don't know, 1921 02:03:00.760 --> 02:03:03.920 but definitely many ways to look at them. 1922 02:03:04.279 --> 02:03:07.479 If we are masters of our own fate, webs, then 1923 02:03:07.720 --> 02:03:10.960 it's up to us what bugs we're letting live in 1924 02:03:11.199 --> 02:03:14.319 our webs. So you've got to be conscious of that 1925 02:03:14.439 --> 02:03:17.640 and get rid of the garbage that's blocking up your web, 1926 02:03:17.760 --> 02:03:20.359 because that's why you read that faith that you're supposed 1927 02:03:20.359 --> 02:03:20.760 to be at. 1928 02:03:21.359 --> 02:03:23.760 There, I say, you're going to knock out the cobwebs. 1929 02:03:23.760 --> 02:03:26.640 I actually remember what I was gonna say. It was 1930 02:03:26.840 --> 02:03:28.800 on the tail end of what you said, jewels, I think, 1931 02:03:30.239 --> 02:03:35.079 or maybe it was headless, but the spiritual authority, Oh 1932 02:03:35.159 --> 02:03:37.600 it was jewels. The spiritual authority we're given with Christ 1933 02:03:37.800 --> 02:03:41.760 just to tread upon scorpion, snakes, the creeping thing, right, 1934 02:03:41.840 --> 02:03:47.119 So each of these, Yeah, they occupy the lower kingdoms 1935 02:03:47.359 --> 02:03:49.800 of the earth, of which man is at the top, 1936 02:03:50.039 --> 02:03:52.880 you know, and lion, of course is below man. But 1937 02:03:53.520 --> 02:03:56.159 the creeping thing is something that we're given authority to 1938 02:03:56.279 --> 02:03:59.640 tread over. It says, so like you were saying there, 1939 02:04:00.000 --> 02:04:01.960 little bit Ago, I think there could be something to that, 1940 02:04:02.359 --> 02:04:09.359 absolutely spiritual analogous analogous spirits associated with them. And this 1941 02:04:09.479 --> 02:04:12.479 goes back to like the concept of cleanliness with animals 1942 02:04:12.520 --> 02:04:14.800 and that sort of thing too. I think parasites and 1943 02:04:14.840 --> 02:04:15.079 all that. 1944 02:04:17.199 --> 02:04:22.439 Yeah, uh, Joel, as he was talking you, you made 1945 02:04:22.479 --> 02:04:28.800 me have a realization. Yeah, we're you know earlier you mentioned, 1946 02:04:30.880 --> 02:04:33.760 uh the spire taking a frog in as a pet. 1947 02:04:36.079 --> 02:04:43.000 I realized so in uh that his family, the family 1948 02:04:43.119 --> 02:04:47.000 with comments was created to be a commentary on the 1949 02:04:47.039 --> 02:04:49.720 American dream and the white pickup French kind of family 1950 02:04:50.840 --> 02:04:59.800 archetype and their pet is thing which is a hang 1951 02:05:00.159 --> 02:05:06.399 but it walks like a spider and it does it 1952 02:05:06.560 --> 02:05:11.319 does their bidding. So I made I made that little 1953 02:05:11.399 --> 02:05:12.079 small connection. 1954 02:05:12.600 --> 02:05:15.039 I thought that was, well, you here something to add 1955 02:05:15.079 --> 02:05:18.840 to that, because just last week this girl shows up 1956 02:05:18.960 --> 02:05:22.760 online with the robotic arm and she can detach the 1957 02:05:22.880 --> 02:05:26.560 hand and and she's like, oh, it even has bluetooth. 1958 02:05:26.560 --> 02:05:29.239 Since she was taking her hand crawl across the table 1959 02:05:29.319 --> 02:05:34.800 with wild she's got her own technological thing. 1960 02:05:34.960 --> 02:05:44.159 Now yeah. Yeah. But some books on spiders, like I 1961 02:05:44.279 --> 02:05:48.000 mentioned earlier, there was a book on the Theophical Society, 1962 02:05:49.159 --> 02:05:52.319 which again I'm not promoting these necessarily. I'm just saying 1963 02:05:52.359 --> 02:05:55.039 these are books that I've looked at that that have 1964 02:05:55.399 --> 02:05:59.880 some knowledge into spiders. And that's to play on consciousness 1965 02:06:00.119 --> 02:06:06.159 in the Web by Edward L. Garner, Weaving Fate, hypersiduals, 1966 02:06:06.279 --> 02:06:10.159 changing fate and telling true lies by getting a watch 1967 02:06:10.319 --> 02:06:14.079 that's all about chaos magic, because if you want the 1968 02:06:14.159 --> 02:06:17.560 more scientific like string theory aspect of it, there is 1969 02:06:17.560 --> 02:06:20.960 a book called The Fabric of Reality by David Ducet. 1970 02:06:22.520 --> 02:06:26.680 It's all about the scientific aspect of of what we're 1971 02:06:26.720 --> 02:06:30.239 talking about. And then if you want to talk get 1972 02:06:30.319 --> 02:06:36.840 into the Celtic knots and everything. Symbolism of the of 1973 02:06:36.960 --> 02:06:41.600 the Cross by rene Ganon gets into cross symbolism and 1974 02:06:41.680 --> 02:06:44.600 the crossroads and culture, knots and all this and that 1975 02:06:45.039 --> 02:06:48.479 in the physics sense, in fact the brand. And I 1976 02:06:48.920 --> 02:06:52.760 just went over to that book by Reneganon with Mario 1977 02:06:52.840 --> 02:06:59.399 Guards of Symbolic Studies on my yeah, yeah, so yeah, 1978 02:06:59.439 --> 02:07:02.000 if you want more that that also get into Celtic 1979 02:07:02.119 --> 02:07:05.199 not it's in this idea of of webs and weaving. 1980 02:07:06.720 --> 02:07:11.800 That's awesome. Nice. Uh all right, uh branch, did you 1981 02:07:11.840 --> 02:07:14.000 have anything you want today? You want to plug anything before? 1982 02:07:15.319 --> 02:07:19.359 Oh no, just remind everybody that it's Saturday, so sebat 1983 02:07:19.399 --> 02:07:23.319 shalom and just uh, you know, pay respect to your 1984 02:07:23.359 --> 02:07:27.359 deity today and read your scriptures whatever culture you're from. 1985 02:07:28.359 --> 02:07:30.239 All right, thank you, thank you. 1986 02:07:31.880 --> 02:07:35.199 All right, so headless, we'll just go around and let 1987 02:07:35.239 --> 02:07:37.319 you plug yourself, plug the show. You'll plug your show. 1988 02:07:37.359 --> 02:07:40.119 Let everybody know where they can find you. Oh you 1989 02:07:40.279 --> 02:07:41.840 muted it, sir, you muted. 1990 02:07:43.960 --> 02:07:44.199 Again. 1991 02:07:44.279 --> 02:07:46.840 I'm the Headless Giant and you can find me on 1992 02:07:46.920 --> 02:07:51.279 YouTube X and you can find me Friday nights doing 1993 02:07:51.359 --> 02:07:54.720 the Future is Ancient Spaces with my co host art Autonomy. 1994 02:07:55.319 --> 02:07:57.399 She's got a space coming up tonight, so if you 1995 02:07:57.439 --> 02:07:58.920 want to check me out on next you can see 1996 02:07:59.119 --> 02:07:59.960 that space as well. 1997 02:08:00.359 --> 02:08:01.239 I'll swing through. 1998 02:08:02.960 --> 02:08:05.960 And Jules, please let everybody know what is up with you, sir. 1999 02:08:06.359 --> 02:08:11.680 They condust on X twenty more followers to him out 2000 02:08:11.680 --> 02:08:13.760 of thousand. So let's let's help get me there. 2001 02:08:14.600 --> 02:08:17.880 Jump over, go over there, give them, give them great. 2002 02:08:17.720 --> 02:08:20.760 Piled underscore podcast on Instagram whenever I post over there, 2003 02:08:21.239 --> 02:08:27.119 Rumble YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcast. Uh, Patreon, I'm trying to 2004 02:08:27.159 --> 02:08:30.000 push the Patreon. Got a few tears on there also, 2005 02:08:30.399 --> 02:08:32.880 uh one out of four designs. And my stickers just 2006 02:08:33.000 --> 02:08:36.000 came in, so y'all will be getting a sticker pack 2007 02:08:36.079 --> 02:08:39.600 here soon on on my Patreon people or locals, depending 2008 02:08:39.640 --> 02:08:44.359 on where you want to sign up. Yeah, yeah, guys, 2009 02:08:44.399 --> 02:08:46.560 We're doing a show tomorrow night with John Lee Chowbeck. 2010 02:08:46.640 --> 02:08:49.079 I think later tomorrow night, so I haven't confirmed it. 2011 02:08:49.159 --> 02:08:54.560 Yet we're reviewing Crowley's liber Odds, doing a read through 2012 02:08:54.680 --> 02:08:59.960 of it and kind of our interpretation of it. So yeah, yeah, y'all, y'all, 2013 02:09:00.000 --> 02:09:03.439 I'll look out for that. Got a bunch of shows 2014 02:09:03.479 --> 02:09:06.039 coming up, a bunch of good stuff over on Gray 2015 02:09:06.079 --> 02:09:10.119 Pill to everybody. So yeah, thank you again Nick for 2016 02:09:10.680 --> 02:09:11.079 having me on. 2017 02:09:11.199 --> 02:09:14.119 Brother Hell yeah, of course, of course, thank you and 2018 02:09:15.119 --> 02:09:17.760 Branch and I guess of Chris. 2019 02:09:17.880 --> 02:09:19.399 I mean, I don't know if you guys have separate 2020 02:09:19.399 --> 02:09:21.640 things to plug separately besides the channel. 2021 02:09:21.680 --> 02:09:23.760 Okay, okay, but I guess we'll go with you. 2022 02:09:23.800 --> 02:09:27.039 Branch fir Us, Well, I do have a link tree, 2023 02:09:27.199 --> 02:09:28.560 so I'll provide that to you. 2024 02:09:28.720 --> 02:09:30.600 Oh yeah, please, yeah, I'll lay that after the show 2025 02:09:30.640 --> 02:09:31.119 if you like it. 2026 02:09:31.600 --> 02:09:34.640 Yeah, and I can include that, So that's I'm trying to. 2027 02:09:34.800 --> 02:09:36.399 I guess what I'll end up having to do is 2028 02:09:36.439 --> 02:09:38.920 probably create a channel and just mirror all the content 2029 02:09:39.000 --> 02:09:40.920 on it. But for now, that's what I got and 2030 02:09:41.000 --> 02:09:43.760 it'll have to do. But there's like thirty different collaborations 2031 02:09:44.039 --> 02:09:47.479 on there. I tried to include a link to every 2032 02:09:47.640 --> 02:09:49.720 person I've collaborated with on there so that you can 2033 02:09:49.760 --> 02:09:52.439 find their stuff, and then there might be multiple other 2034 02:09:52.560 --> 02:09:54.239 videos have done with them, but I'm just trying to 2035 02:09:54.319 --> 02:09:58.520 keep it organized because I never really wanted I just 2036 02:09:58.800 --> 02:10:01.079 kind of do this stuff for fun. But I guess 2037 02:10:01.199 --> 02:10:05.000 after a few years starting to get flutterard, so I 2038 02:10:05.079 --> 02:10:08.640 gotta start organizing it. Lust die for you lose track 2039 02:10:08.720 --> 02:10:10.279 of it. But yeah, if you want to find me 2040 02:10:10.399 --> 02:10:13.039 on Twitter, I'm on there as William Burke. And if 2041 02:10:13.039 --> 02:10:17.159 you want to find me on Instagram, I'm Apocalyptic Aesthetic 2042 02:10:17.279 --> 02:10:20.680 with two p's as in the phone app. So you 2043 02:10:20.760 --> 02:10:23.000 can hit me up on there and chat or invite 2044 02:10:23.039 --> 02:10:24.119 me to collab or whatever. 2045 02:10:25.479 --> 02:10:26.119 Sure, for sure. 2046 02:10:26.560 --> 02:10:29.760 Yeah, it's a pretty interesting like a Robbie Marks. He's 2047 02:10:29.880 --> 02:10:31.880 he's on the on the Cole Reject. He doesn't have 2048 02:10:32.000 --> 02:10:34.239 his own podcast, but he has a show that's overall 2049 02:10:34.319 --> 02:10:38.079 one hundred episodes of him being on other shows. So 2050 02:10:38.399 --> 02:10:41.439 I get what you're saying, and yeah, that's interesting. Good 2051 02:10:41.439 --> 02:10:45.399 for you, thank you, and Chris go ahead, sorry please. 2052 02:10:46.439 --> 02:10:52.079 Yeah, you can follow me on Instagram at you know, 2053 02:10:52.479 --> 02:10:58.399 King of Cups cover for the k TV and then 2054 02:10:58.840 --> 02:11:04.640 on x it's channel Kokay TV. Then my YouTube channel 2055 02:11:05.239 --> 02:11:10.960 is channel Okay Okay, and the Brands is kind of 2056 02:11:11.039 --> 02:11:14.800 my pseudo co host. He's on the majority of my 2057 02:11:15.319 --> 02:11:22.479 my episodes. Coming up, we have ah a new series 2058 02:11:22.640 --> 02:11:27.560 we are I'm going to be watching called Archetypes. Every 2059 02:11:27.560 --> 02:11:30.680 episode we're going to be going over a different archetype. 2060 02:11:30.760 --> 02:11:33.199 The first one up is the Messiah archetype with the 2061 02:11:33.279 --> 02:11:36.479 hero of course, and of course we'll get to talking 2062 02:11:36.479 --> 02:11:39.520 about other ones like manic pictures and girls and dark 2063 02:11:39.640 --> 02:11:41.840 mothers and stuff like that, but we're going to start 2064 02:11:41.920 --> 02:11:45.800 at the beginning, one archetype at a time. So we 2065 02:11:45.920 --> 02:11:52.079 got that coming up. We have our pop culture political show, 2066 02:11:53.039 --> 02:11:57.039 the King of Branch Show where the Branch to Dark 2067 02:11:57.119 --> 02:12:02.520 Maga updates. And then I have a film review series 2068 02:12:02.640 --> 02:12:07.319 called Kingdom Reviews that I do as well, So we 2069 02:12:07.479 --> 02:12:12.079 have we have a bunch of stuff aren't on on 2070 02:12:12.199 --> 02:12:15.039 the books. And then last night, like I said, I 2071 02:12:15.239 --> 02:12:20.880 just released my severance video with Raised by Giants and 2072 02:12:21.000 --> 02:12:25.199 that that was a really fun discussion. You know, Seventh 2073 02:12:25.359 --> 02:12:29.399 is such an interesting show to talk about and it 2074 02:12:29.680 --> 02:12:33.640 was fun having writer on and talking about it. So 2075 02:12:33.720 --> 02:12:36.920 you can go check that out. Chaining. Okay, okay, thanks 2076 02:12:36.960 --> 02:12:41.800 for having us on, Nick and I'm glad to meet 2077 02:12:41.800 --> 02:12:42.239 you guys. 2078 02:12:42.720 --> 02:12:43.920 Oh yeah, no, it was my pleasure. 2079 02:12:43.960 --> 02:12:44.079 Man. 2080 02:12:44.119 --> 02:12:46.479 That was a great person, great talk, great talk. Glad 2081 02:12:46.520 --> 02:12:49.720 to have you back on again. Uh yeah, and thank 2082 02:12:49.760 --> 02:12:51.479 you everybody in the chat. There's a lot of people 2083 02:12:51.479 --> 02:12:53.279 in the chat, even in the other chats over on 2084 02:12:53.560 --> 02:12:55.800 Juesus side, and I don't know he less with you 2085 02:12:55.840 --> 02:12:57.520 streaming out too, that was pretty sure. There's proble of 2086 02:12:57.560 --> 02:12:59.960 people on your runs as well commenting. Thank you everybody 2087 02:13:00.039 --> 02:13:02.039 who jumped in and had, you know, had something to say. 2088 02:13:02.479 --> 02:13:04.800 I appreciate it, and that's why that's why we went live. 2089 02:13:05.359 --> 02:13:07.319 And that is the end of another recalled Rejects and 2090 02:13:07.439 --> 02:13:09.800 until the next one, everybody be well later.