Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to side Quest. This is our weekly
video game show. Here at first, I'm your host, Dylan
Musnag with me the Chicken Chaser Kirk Clen Petzer. I know,
how are you feeling? But for the viewers, how are
you feeling tonight? Uh?
Speaker 2: You know, like I'm excited to talk about some Xbox
Showcase stuff even tho I'm feeling a little bit under
the weather right now, but no, I'm happy to be here.
This can be a fun, fun episode. Alright, Chicken Chaser's back.
It's been a long time coming.
Speaker 1: It's back. The reputation's back. Yeah, today's episode, it is
gonna be fun when we have two things really just
some games been playing as per usual, and then you know,
the main head honcho here is the Xbox Developer Direct
which happened last week, which us a bunch of information
on for the Rizon six, Fable, a Beast of Reincarnation,
and then a surprise fourth game in Kiln. So we're
gonna dig into all of that, but just started off
going to toss right over to you, Kirkland, you tell
me about some of the games you've been playing, because yeah,
like you were saying before, it's it's been a while
since you've given one of these updates, so I want
to know what the heck you've been playing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been saving a couple couple juicy ones for you.
I'm excited to talk to you about and starting ref
the hop. I over the Christmas break, you know, I
had two weeks off and didn't do a whole lot
of school stuff because I was just taking the time
to enjoy my time off, and I for whatever reason,
I just wanted to jump into some Half Life, so
I had purchased the Black Mesa. It's like the fan
made like ret It's so incredibly well done. I highly
highly recommend it. I do think that people, like if
you've never played Half Life at all, Although like Black
Mesa is just a really really great remaster and remake,
I still think like you should probably play that og
just to like even truly appreciate the advancements that they
did going from the original Half Life to Black Mesa.
I thought it was like a one for one like remake,
and until I was I was stuck at this one section,
so I just like pulled up like a Half Life
walk through and like they completely redesigned like some of
like the little level areas and whatnot. But no, I
absolutely love that Half Life game. It's it's probably like
the original Half Life was probably one of the first
tam games I ever played, like back in the og
Og days. And yeah, like just like the sounds and
the just the creatures, the creature sounds too. I feel
like the sound design is something that's just so nostalgic
for me in that game, in particular when you're just
like going down corridors or just hear the little like
face crawler things just leap at you. But no, I
absolutely love that game so much, and I flew through it.
I think I think I rolled credit to like seven
or so hours, but honestly, like two or three sessions,
Like I was going pretty hard in that game, and
I didn't really find like myself getting too stuck at
any portions of I think I played it on hard
like the one just above normal, and I'm just a
better gamer than I was back in the day as
a kid. But No, I had so much fun in
it too. There's there's a lot of different weaponry, weaponry
that I kind of forgot that you get even or
sorry that you get access to in the later levels
some like just crazy like ope weapons that just blow
up multiple enemies, but such a fun world and you
know the murmurs. Half Life three coming around. I do
want to plug in Half Life two. I did see
though on like the Black Mesa that's the name of
the remake of the Half Life But they also have
like the Blue Shift remake. I don't know if it's
out or if they're like working on it, but that
was kind of like the offshoot little one point five game.
And addition that they had, they had Blue Shift and
Opposing Force. Blue Shift you're like a security guard in
this Black Mason facility, and then the Opposing Force you're
like the military that's there. And if you've never played
Half Life, those are like the antagonists, the bad guys
trying to find trying to on Gordon and uh yeah, no,
I love liking you so much. I'm so glad I
just put some time aside to jump in there. And yeah, no,
just just a fun, fun shooter.
Speaker 1: So they so Black Mesa is a remake ish of
the first game, Is that right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a from a like a ground up
like like redo, like it was a I can't remember
what like year they started making it, but I remember
it was like early access for like a really really
long time and I had wish listed for forever and
then it was just on a winter sale ended up
picking up and uh yeah.
Speaker 1: Because they recently, like within the last couple of years,
I think, released like the twenty year Anniversary something, which
I don't know when did their first half I come
up with it two thousand and four, so maybe it
was two years ago, or they did like the Anniversary
collection or Anniversary remaster I suppose of the original Half Life.
So it's interesting that that they did that when this
Black Masa things exist. So is Black Mesa like a
separate skew on Steam or is it like a mod
that you downt like a workshop thingy form from fall
up from Half Life? Did I say followed earlier in
my brain?
Speaker 2: Yes, you did say follow That's okay. Uh No, it's
it's it's totally own, like separate game like it's it's
a whole different studio that made it. I think it
started as just like a fan made project, but I
don't know. I don't know all the details around that,
so don't don't quote me on it.
Speaker 1: I won't uh check out our follow up reviews. By
the way, I was just watching that show. That's what
but cool that that's really great. Yeah, I I that
is one of the retros we've talked about doing when
this Half Life three thing, which seems like it actually
might be real gets announced at some point in the
near future here, so really excited to finally knock that
off my off my backlog. So I'll definitely uh me
and you can go on that journey maybe Travis as well.
That'll be a fun, a fun retro to finally dive
into those games head first.
Speaker 2: For me, totally just great world building too, from like
the get go on on the first game and then
number two is just such a massive, like expanse upgrade,
I think, just like the scale of everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I didn't give more games been playing. I
just wanted to show it out one quick thing which
is not a game I've been playing, but I almost did. Kirkling.
I'm excited to report back in like a couple of
weeks or something. But I've recently joined joined like a
new friend group and they have all sorts of game
various game lights that they're doing, and they're really into Zomboid,
so I redownloaded the game. They have like a server
set up with like a bunch of us and like
a bunch of mods and whatnot, and so I got
all that. I got all that installed, got all this,
and then like when I was trying to join, there
was like some issue with like the mod like two
mods somehow, like even though they set up the server
like days before, two the mods had been removed from Steam,
so like I couldn't download those, so it was causing
some some issue. But I was like watching my friend
like stream stream it while I was trying to get
everything download and whatnot. And so yeah, soon I'm gonna
be jumping back into play some more Zomboid and with
a bunch of mods. So that's gonna be fun. But
in the stream I was watching, you know, he was
hanging out of the house. Was the evening time. He
was cooking his chicken nuggets, left the stove on or
something and just lit the house on fire, started burning
down the yard and a bunch of like the house
and whatnot. And then he kind of got he was
banned from the kitchen. They're like, dude, you can't cook anymore.
You were just trying to against me, but you know,
you were ruining everything. So I'm excited. Yeah, and a
couple of weeks, like I said, I should have some
a good Zomboide.
Speaker 2: Update for you. That's awesome. I was actually gonna bring
up Zomboy because I jumped in there recently. It was
following our Bone Temple review. I was just feeling the zombie,
the zombie presence, so I jumped in, made a new character,
and I made it like a couple of weeks and
then sure enough I was doing like a super easy
run to this warehouse that I was like super confident on,
got jumped from behind and then bitten and like when
that's just like the death sentence. So I was feeling
pretty sad about that, but no, I like that was
a few hours of gameplay and I was just having
so much fun. It's a fun game that just you
can always like go back to it and just do
like a new run. And I'm very excited for like
the full release of Bill forty two. I haven't done
like the unstable version. That's kind of like the public
test and the.
Speaker 1: Time of the game I'm on now with the all
these mods that we have, we have to be on
the stable version, so, like I said, I haven't actually
played it yet, but should be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a major like gameplay updates and on that
new build. So I am excited for when it does
get the stable release. But that's so exciting. I'm I'm uh,
we'll have to play again too sometimes.
Speaker 1: Yes, we definitely should. Yeah, I want to get get
back in there.
Speaker 2: Nice. Uh. Cool. On another game I've been playing that
I wanted to shout out, I forgot to mention it
to you actually in the before show, so it might
be a bit of surprise, but I got agent mythology retold.
Speaker 1: Already.
Speaker 2: This was a heartbreak game for me because I was
so excited for the like the release of it. I
think I had pre ordered it, got like the deluxe
version like that, like this was my favorite arts game
as a kid. We get the remastered here uh And
then yeah, my old computer just would not even boot.
I was so sad. I was like on the forum
trying to figure out how to get this thing going.
Ended up having to refund the game, and I was
just so bitter and salty about it. And then yeah
I was on sale and I picked it up, and man,
what an amazing game like it it is just hitting
on all these Dolia factors. I was playing just like
a couple of like custom battles, like skirmishes against the computer,
and then I started like playing just like the campaign again,
which is just such an amazing story and it's it's
it's it's so fun. I I have like some mixed
feelings on it because they do have like a lot
of like different voice actors for some of the characters,
and it's like, I just played that game so much
as a kid that like I can hear like the
the original voices. And then I said I have this,
I'm like, oh, I wish it was like a setting
or something that you could just go back to the
og audio files for the for just some of the
voice characters, like Athena, for example, she's kind of like
the narrator of like the main campaign, and they have
a different voice actor for her, and it's just it
just bothers me so much because you heard her so
much if you played through the original campaign.
Speaker 1: Playing on Steam or on the Xbox Store on Steam, Yeah,
is there a workshop for that? Like I feel like
that's something that I guarantee if if there.
Speaker 2: That's a good point. I should I should look into
that because I would totally install that because yeah, I
missed my og Athena, but you know, minor grievances. It
is just such a phenomenal game. They've added quite a
lot to it also like gameplay wise, but also like
there's a bunch of new factions and gods that you
can follow, so there's like there's like a Japanese Pantheon
of Gods, which is kind of cool. So I haven't
even played like those units or anything. And then they
have their own story campaign attached to it, so there's
a lot of content in the game that I've yet
to really play. I've I've just been going through the
fall of the Tried and campaign, which is like the
og story. And yeah, like I said, just doing some
of the custom battles but so fun. I'm excited to
do some Like let's tell my dad about it, because
we used to have some just some hardcore land battles
back in the day. I would have my bat my buddies,
he would have his buddies and we just have like
eight of us doing like multiplayer in the basement. It
was just some some golden memories. Of mine, so definitely
hitting the nostalgia. Yeah, going through this game and it's
really fun, really really recommend it.
Speaker 1: That's great. Yeah, I am excited to jump in and
play play some of that at some point in my life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely, And then what else I was
gonna quickly mention over the break, I went really hard
in Warhammer and I was loving it. I like, man,
the new system is just such a game changer, mostly
just for like the load times. Like if if I
would play like three hours of Warhammer before, I swear,
it'd be like an hour and a half load times
going from like battles, and then it would just take
so long to go back to the campaign map on
my old computer. But now it's like near instant, and
it's just I'm just so smiley because like before i'd
jump in, especially if I'm later on a campaign, like
the turns take so long. You just cover so much
of the world and you have so many armies to manage,
like it'd be like a one turn session because it
would just take so long. And then especially if I
do a battle, it would just take so long to
go into it, and then it's just like a big
slog going back to the campaign map. I'm just like
sad afterwards, but now just being able to, Yeah, not
be worried about the load times. I could just jump
into some battles and yeah, I absolutely love that game
so much. It is it is still just it's still
up there, but I'm excited. I got like age pathology.
Now for a little RTS on the side to scratch
that itch. And yeah, do you.
Speaker 1: With your new computer, could you play Warmammer and stream
it at the same time. Do you think you think
your computer could run that?
Speaker 2: I think so. There's some moments like I, of course,
when I get menu computer, I'm assuming I could just
run everything on ultra max graphics. Not the case so
much on that game. I get some major frame drops
and certain sequences. But I would love to do that
because I feel like the game is so complex and
like I've I've talked to you so much about this game,
but like you've never really seen what then.
Speaker 1: No, I would love to just sit down with you
and just watch you play and you just like over
explain everything you do, because you know, I'm at this
point knowing how much hours you put it. I'm like,
I'm not doing that, but I really want to understand
more of the games, like deeper mechanics, so totally we
should do we should plan that it would be a
fun stream.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, I know, absolutely, let's do that nice and
then beyond that, that's kind of the main meat potatoes
that have been playing this. Well. We're in a new
year now, twenty twenty six, and then League Legends has
their new season that came out seating sixteen. With the
new year, and what Legal Legends does now is every
month they have Clash. It's kind of like their amateur
little like tournament, so you just get your friends together,
your group of five, and then you can go commeet
in these little they have two day events, so one
on Saturday, one on Sunday, and then they kind of
put you in a bracket with people similar to your
skill level, like similar to your rank of everyone that's
in your team. And me and my friends we jumped
in there this weekend and we've only done Clash once
before and we made it to the finals but lost
in the last game. It was just like really really
heartbreaking because we just got stopped in the last game.
And then that was like months and months ago, so
we had like a lot of build up and hype
for this this weekend and Sunday we jumped in there.
We won the whole thing. We won every game and
it was lots of lots of fun. That game is like,
I mean, you've you've had your share of mobile experiences,
and it's just like peaks when you can have a
full team and everyone's in the comms and just everyone's
working together. It's similar to like a CSO experience or
something like that, like just everyone working together. Uh, and
just yeah, making it feel like I'm in the World's
World's Finals and the esports stage. And it was just
really really fun to yeah, just just just be competitive
playing league and yeah, we we absolutely popped off. I
felt bad because I, like just the players I was
laying against, I could tell they were just like really
really not at my level. So I had a pretty
easy time with it. But still it was so fun
to play with with the boys, and uh, yeah, hopefully
we're gonna try and like play them at least, you know,
around the clash times, just just jumping. Like I said,
it's it's usually once a month that they have those
little those little tournaments, so yeah, yeah, that's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think, you know, I've had phases
in my life for like all I'm playing is competitive game,
whether that was like my HAN era, my CS era,
or when I was in a melee obviously, but nowadays
it's like sometimes I just go like months at a
time without playing a competitive game at all, like just
really just playing single player stuff or like co op things,
and whenever I do go back to it, it's like, yeah,
there's just nothing quite like uh, you know, getting a
clutch comeback in a game.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: My most played game of this month and probably last
like two or three months is just a bunch of
Rocket League with sarahsh just playing so much Rocket League,
well as much as we can because considering he's a
dad and he's like in school and working, and so
he's like, yeah, let's play it ten for one hour
kind of you know Rock League games five minutes long.
You can get through a bunch of them. So that's
been that's been really fun, and we've both been getting
a lot better working on our team work. And funny enough,
I just today, like we just this last couple we
had a couple of new guys start at my work
and one of them was talking to me today, it's like, oh,
what games you played? Do you play Rocket League? That
was like the first thing. He just like soul right man, Like, dude,
that's all I've been playing. Like how did you know?
And then like the other new guy across the room
was like, wait, Rocket League. I play Rock League. We're like, oh,
let's get that's going on here, so that'll be uh,
that'll be fun. I foresee a lot more Rocket League
in my in my future here. But just just such
a great game. So the skill ceiling endless. Uh, feeling
of getting a comeback unbelievable. You get some BM in there,
you know, make some people salty. All feels so good.
Sometimes I have that person too, but yeah, it's it's
just it's been a great time. That's mostly what I've
been playing lately. Honestly, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's such a timeless game and like I haven't
I feel like last time I played it was would
have been on stream, but you know, I pick it up.
It's like riding a bike. I'm I'm not good. I'm
not doing like aerial juggles or anything like that, but
I can at least like just move over the vehicle
to what my skill level was at and uh, yeah,
it's it's so fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right on cool. Uh, there are the games that
we have been playing, and you know, let's jump into
the Xbox Direct. We'll get through the first game. Maybe
then we can take our first break. So I guess yeah,
even just in general, you know, Kirkling, you're not normally
the Xbox coverge guy on sideways because you don't have
these consoles. Your PC was a little outdated. You weren't
really playing these things. But I feel like this is
a perfect time to jump in for you to cover
this direct, which wasn't even the plan, but just Travis
had to switch a week round and now you're here,
which is kind of great because I feel like three
of the four games here are like very Kirkling code,
at least that's my perception of them. And now that
you have the new PC and you know, hopping the
Xbox at maybe subscribe to the Game Past for a
month if you want to, which you know, the price
of that didn't go up very much, was more like
the console one that went up. You could probably play
a lot of these games if you're wanting to check
them out. So what did you I guess just as
the broad strokes of it. What did you think of this,
this conference, this direct here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I've definitely watched one of these before,
but for some reason, I thought it was gonna be
like a lot more games in this showcase. It was
only like fifty four minutes, and they spend a lot
of time with each game because there is only a
couple in there.
Speaker 1: I feel like you were on last year's with me
because I feel like we talked about claib Scure and yeah,
other games they had in there on that year, but
I guess they probably had avowed uh maybe a Ninja guiding.
I think does that sound familiar?
Speaker 2: That sounds familiar. Yeah, I remember talking about Ninja guiding there.
But for yeah, for this one. You know, obviously the
Big Head Houn show was like I was jumping into it.
I'm like, yeah, I'm so hyped for to just watch
the Fable stuff. But you know, I was homesick today,
so I just threw it on. And yeah, I think
there was some games that maybe i'd heard of that
I thought were interesting, but just having them showcased here
was really really Yeah, I was liking what I what
I was getting, Big Hidden Op one was the killing game.
For me personally, I was so confused at what was
going on. I feel like I didn't love like the
guy that was doing like his pottery nonsense. He was
he was really acting. He was showing his acting chops.
But yeah, just the more I saw that game, like
this actually looks so fun and crazy. So yeah, I
like what was shown there. We get some japan stuff
in there with Yeah, the New four is a game
I probably won't be playing that, but still it was
kind of cool to see. And yeah, no, overall I
thought it was a pretty pretty easy watch, and of
course ending and off of Fable was pretty high for me,
and I really really love what was showing there, So
that was kind of my quick little overall.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think, you know, as usual, I
think they've really got this Dan, And this is like
the fourth year they've done this specific structure of this
showcase so far, and I think they've they do a
really good job here, Like it's really well produced. They
show off the games very well. Of course, there's some
games you always want to see like a little bit
more like Fable is that for me, But just because
I'm so curious about what this game is gonna look like,
but they do a really good job. They highlight the developers. Now,
obviously this is Xbox, a company that is firing game
developers on like a monthly basis at this point, so
it seems like a little ironic or a little silly
that they put this much effort into it. But I guess,
you know, they can't all be perfect, I suppose, but yeah,
I think I think this showcase was was a really
really great way to show off a bunch of these games.
So they always like to have a surprise in there.
It seems like they have this now where maybe if
they aren't firing on all cylinders on the first party front,
they bring in a third party one. So this year
it's Game Freak with Peace of Free Incarnation. Last year
it was Claire ob Skier, which are not first party games,
but they want to highlight them all the same, and
they seem like they get just as much production value
and budget put into like their part of the showcase
as the in house games as well, which is cool
because obviously those games are on game Pass they had
they're helping build the brand up, and I think in
claib Scars case, that was a huge success, and I
don't know if people really attribute that win to Xbox,
but it was a game pass title and it was
really mostly advertised for their console, and I think doing
that here with Peace of Ree Incarnation like a game
free game, is a really interesting play for them as well.
So I think it's it's cool to see which ones
they're picking as like that fourth non Xbox first party thing,
and so I think it was a huge SUCSS last year.
We'll see if that's the case for this new one
this year. But yeah, and then, as I just said,
they always have a surprise game in there and then
highlighting two big first party games. So let's jump into
it with that very first. We'll go in order here,
and that is with Fores of Horizon six. So I
haven't really played much of this series, but I did
play a bunch of fours Horizon five when that came out.
Whenever it was, I think it was twenty twenty three.
It's pretty recently. They get these games out pretty quick.
This has a release right now of May eighteenth on Xbox.
I forget if PlayStation's the same day. I want to
say it's a few months later, but I think it's
still this year, is what they announced there, and yeah,
this is Fores the Horizon going to Japan finally. So
they showed a bunch of that open world. They showed
off some seasons, they showed off some you can like
build a base, which I don't know if that's new.
I think you could always buy houses and garages, but
now you can build it like a weird looking base.
So that's kind of fun. But I'm guys kind of here.
It's kind of surprised to hear you say that you're
kind of just brushing this one off. I thought maybe
this would be a fun game for you, especially like
you're so hyped on Ace Combat. I feel like maybe
there's some crossover between these two. Yeah, that's the Japan stuff.
After your trip last year, I thought I thought you'd
maybe be wanting to jump into this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. I think I'm just like so separated
from the series, Like I'm just especially back to the
day when they're like excusively xboxes. It's just like, yeah,
I'm never gonna play those games. If I want to
play a racing game, you know, I got my F
one titles, Like I can jump in there very very
different type of racing game, but still that's kind of
what I would be more inclined to. But I will
say I feel like this is probably the closest sell
that I've had on this one, just because I do
love the Of course they're in Japan, that's amazing, and
I was kind of interested in what they're picture with,
like the story very like generic racing need for speed
type type story of you know, you're a nobody, you're
tourists in Japan, and then and then you enter your
your your little dinky car to this race and you
just like work your way up.
Speaker 1: I don't funny that they said that. They were like,
in this one, you don't start as a rookie and
grow up and get to the big leagues. You're a
tourist who's like, oh, maybe I'll try this out. But
it's like it is the same story, I guess you. Yeah,
this Slight Origin is a bit different, but you're right,
it is kind of goofy the way they were trying
to sell that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I mean I was I was prett
surprised to you by the amount of cars that they
mentioned there, Like they said there's like over five hundred
which in my head is just like, that's like more
cars than I think there even is in the world.
That's that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I certainly got a car game, but still five hundred cars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure there are like some variants here and there,
but no really really cool. I did like the highlight
of just like the verticality of some of the levels.
I think it's just one of those franchises I've never
really thought myself being into. But this was an impressive trailer,
So maybe I don't want to. I don't want to
broom them fast too quickly. But but for looking at
it and being like looking at the games that I'm
gonna be purchasing this year, I don't think this is
gonna be the one that really makes the cut there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's It's funny like when you watch a
trailer like this and they really highlight all these little details,
which I feel like, just because of the genre that
this is, you almost don't notice some of those things,
Like I'm sure I'll notice the cherry blossom, you know,
leaves hovering differently when I drive by them, but they're
like the tread on your v on your tires, you'll
see it like wear down over time. It's like, I
don't think anyone's gonna notice that. Like it's a cool
detail and I love that they have it in there,
but like, is anyone actually gonna notice that, Like maybe
you'll notice your control getting a bit worse. But the
fact that it's like they've animated it is is kind
of crazy above and beyond. But I don't know if
they have done this in the other ones with the
with the seasons, because the last one, five was set
in Mexico and I played some of that, but I
don't I don't recall there being like seasonal changes. I
could be wrong about that, but I feel like maybe
that was just a specific to Japan thing where they
really wanted to highlight how all four seasons are extremely distinct,
whether it's those cherry blossoms or like the huge piles
of snow on either side of the road that looks
really fun to me, Like the Mario Kart sixty four
level that has has a theming like that. Yeah, I
think that part of it looks really cool. And I
am excited for this game if I whenever I'm subscribed
to xpot or game pass next whenever this game is
out I'll definitely jump in there for a few hours
and see what it's like. You know, I think the
freedom of it is is cool, Like with With five
that had all sorts of weird mini games, like you
could do bowling, like with a car mashing giant bowling pins.
I feel like they didn't really highlight that stuff as much.
They was really more focused on the racing and then
like buying bases, like home bases, buy like filling out
your base. But even that, they didn't really highlight too
much of the actual mechanics of it. So I'm curious
to see what kind of like silly goofy things are
in here, Like they always pitch it as like this
is a big event, you know, the Forza event, that
everything's going on here. The horizon of festival, I think
is what it's called. Yeah, that's what it's in the
name of the name of the game. And so I
don't know, I didn't I feel like I didn't see
as much of that or like the characterization, which is
fine because it is like a racing game at the
end of the day. But I'm curious to see what
other kind of fun things are in there. But you know,
it is it is Playground. They crush these games. They
always get great reviews. They look amazing, Like the visuals
of this game are unbelievable. The diversity in the and
the maps looks really good. I wanted to see a
bit more like city gameplay, because I love the look
of that city when you're driving through it, like the
dense downtown kind of section. I don't know how much
which of the game is going to be that, but
I really like the kind of small little bit we
did get to see. It was really like a couple
of corner turns. I was really looking out for it
because I'm like, I really want to see like what
a dense city in Japan looks like in this game.
I don't know if that's really what it's going to be,
if it's more focused on like the country roads and
the big more open spaces, which seems like more power
for the course, for the genre or for the series.
I mean, but still, I think this game looks looks great.
I did have it in my draft. I'm hoping that
it reviews very well, so I got some skin in
the game on this one. But I think it's I
think it'll live up to the hype because these games
are pretty just extremely consistent at this point in time,
so I think this one will hit as well. Yeah, yeah,
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up is game freaks Title beast Of, reincarnation coming out
this summer unknown exact month or, date just ambiguous, summers
as these showcases like to. Do, so, yeah this is
a this is a weird, game right because it's a
game freak. Game the you, know traditionally the developers Of,
pokemon who people always shoot on them because they're a game,
WELL i, mean people love their, games but they're always Like,
wow these, games you, know very buggy graphics. Suck what's
going on? Here these guys have so much money and
why do they keep pumping these games? Out and you,
know probably just because of the time schedules that they
don't get a lot of time to make these. Games
so this is a weird case where like Game freak
is making something, different which happens very rarely from that.
Studio mostly they are just crunching down On pokemon. Stuff
but here we have a very, soulsy very kind of
action game focused here if it seems like there's a
bit more focus on a, story whether that's like actual
physical dialogue or more just a wordless. Story in a,
way it seems like there's something going on. HERE i
liked early on one of the developers maybe is the creative,
director was, LIKE i asked my heart what EMOTIONS i
wanted to feel when making this, game AND i came across, warmth,
trust and. Loneliness of, course He's, japanese so it sound
very different than a WAY i just said, It BUT
i actually loved. THAT i thought that one is very
cute and, earnest but also like the MORE i was
thinking about, it the mores like, warmth trust and. Loneliness
like warmth and, trust those go hand in, hand but
loneliness is like a completely different emotion than those other
two in my, Opinion and SO i think that's like
gonna make for an interesting. Contrast AND i kind of
feel like that comes across in the footage that we.
SHOW i saw, here and you, know it's, funny you
look at this game and, like on the, surface it
seems like it's gonna be like one of the most
gorgeous games, ever but then if you look at like,
closer it's, Like, okay there's definitely like some lower graphical.
Quality you could see some pop in frame, rates seemed pretty,
Decent BUT i think the it's this does still feel
like a game free game in a, sense but obviously
it's like they've really taken a lot more care it,
appears with like the visuals of, it making it, stylish
adding a lot more detail in the, World like the
creature design is just a lot more complex than what
we're used to seeing from them crunching out like one
hundred and Fifty pokemon every couple of. Years whatever it. Is, so,
yeah what did you think about this? Game BECAUSE i
feel like it had what's what's that? Game THE ps five,
game the EARLY ps five game with the girl with
the magic wand that you really came.
Speaker 2: In The forest Of spirit or The bridge Of spirits
Or somethingridge Of.
Speaker 1: SPIRIT i feel like this kind of had an energy
like that that's a bit more pixary than, this which
is more. Soulsy but, yeah you you really liked that.
Game so what did you think of A beast Of? Reincarnation?
Speaker 2: Yeah, NO i was really excited to see this one
here when it was first shown or announced or whatever it.
WAS i was really interested in it because it was
weird that it was a game free game and it Wasn't,
pokemon and it looked REALLY i don't, know like like
a different studio did it like? It it looked really really.
IMPRESSIVE i really really liked the. SHOWCASE i liked WHAT
i WHAT i saw with what they were, explaining it's it's.
Funny you can still definitely tell that it is like
a game free game with with yeah maybe if you
zoom in a little, bit like just the textures aren't
like super super top, quality notch top notch, quality but
like even just their explanation of, like, yeah we've always
been so attached to like animals and companionship and friends
and you, know just stuff like. That plants like like
they just what they're describing. Them like this just seems
like a like how you would make A pokemon. Game
just your your your companioned with an animal and you're
going off in this. World but, YEAH i thought it
was really really. COOL I i did like the showcase
of of, course the different kind of ways that you can.
Play you can really specialize and just maxing out oh my,
GOSH i forgot the wolf's, name but just just whether.
Speaker 1: It's, Emma emma And.
Speaker 2: Coo are the Characters emma And? Coo, yes thank. You
so you could just like max out your coups stats
and just like just only use that he's got his
own skill, tree yeah yeah, yeah or you can focus
more on range or. Melee AND i think what was
shown for the, combat, uh there were some moments that
looked kind of like a J rpg element like it
like it looked like more turn based and stuff that
was more real. Time BUT i thought it looked really.
Good LIKE i like the animations of the. COMBAT i
thought the character, uh, well character, design but also like
the enemy design was really really cool and just expanse
or just larger. SCALE i Guess i'll say like like
the one big flower stag thing that that she was
fighting was was was was pretty, Impressive and, YEAH i
imagine it's gonna have a lot of emotion in. IT
i did like just seeing the developers talk about, it and,
yeah if you if you dig out like some of the,
quotes it's a little bit, Like, okay what are we doing?
Here BUT i think you can really just just feel
the like the care and attention and just the passion
that is in the. Game so, YEAH I I i'm
GLAD i watched it and wasn't, like, oh this looks
this looks really, Bad like it does look like it
could be a bit of a sleeper sleeperro pee. Pic
and you, Know Claire obscure was phenomenal, success BUT i
feel like there was some moments while watching, This i'm,
like this kind of reminds me of of, that like
Original Claire obscure. TRAILER a very different type of, game
but still just just just what's in. THERE i think.
It i'm definitely gonna, be you, know curious to see
what the reviews. Are i'm not gonna jump into it right,
away but uh, yeah hopefully it reviews really well and
another sleeper.
Speaker 1: Hit, yeah, yeah it's definitely it's playing from a lot
of different things for, Me like you, Know canabridge's, spiritual
AS i, mentioned also a lot Of horizon zero down
in terms of like it being an overgrown post world
post whatever the world was, before but then mixed with
like there are high tech creatures as, well like that's
an interesting contrast with the white gray creatures that grains
like the green forest and. Whatnot and then, yeah even
has like A jibbli feel too it as well in
terms of somehow fantastical it is and like just the
overgrowth of, everything and you, KNOW i think game. Freak you,
know every generation they're pumping out a bunch of New,
pokemon and some of The pokemon are some of the
most iconic video game character designs of all, time and
some of them suck, ass, Right like it's very it's
very contrast that there's like there's like the full they
really run the gamut the whole spectrum in terms of
how good their character design. Is BUT i really like
what was shown. Here. ONE i Think emma's like one
of the coolest looking game. Protagonists i've seen cool you,
know cool wolf looking. Creature you can't go wround. There
AND i just think the, creatures like the. Enemies there's
like the one almost like near automata type like, rope
like a wooden robot type characters that look really cool
and interesting and. Strange but then the enemies as well
being just, like oh, yeah here's a moose or a
stag that is like just overgrown with plants and roots
and flowers growing on to weird. Places it's almost a
bit Like, avowed BUT i, think you, know in the
story of A, vowed it's like somewhat, recently there's like
this corruption that's been going, around so like there's a
bear with a flower growing at his, head and it
feels like that's a fresh. Thing this feels like this
overgrowth has been happening on some of these creatures for
like hundreds of years or, something and like they've just
been evolving with it and growing and getting more and
more monstrous over. Time AND i JUST i really like
the design of everything. HERE i think they did a
great job. There and then when that comes back to
the souls like design of, it there's attacks that just
look like an attack you've seen a million times in
A soul's like game where a big boss monster like
smashes their arms down and then there's like In, souls
it's like always like some weird light or something pops
out of the, ground and in this you have like
flowers and roots growing out of the ground that would
be like the hip boxes that you have to. Dodge
and it just seems like really really fun and, dynamic
and it seems like the world because they showed this
a little bit right where like the world will like
grow in real, time like the plants and things will
grow and then like ungrow AND i don't, KNOW i
guess as you're defeating maybe a. NOTE i think that
happens In cane, right like just feed a note and
like a bunch of things like wither away or whatever
you can go. Through so it seems like it's doing
a little bit of. THAT i think The souls like
combat of it looked really, solid looked really, clean looked
like all the things you'd expect like dodge timings And
perry's and counterattacks all that stuff like looked pretty smooth and,
whatnot so that that it's looking. Good as you, mentioned
like the play, styles they're, like, oh you can play,
stealthy you can play, ranged and all those classic styles
that you'd, Expect SO i think it looks really. IMPRESSIVE
i also love the root the root vault thing you
can do where you just like to instead of jumping
or like it looks like a grappling hook type, movement
but instead it's just a root growing out of the
ground that's like supporting one of your legs and it's
just like pushing you into the. AIR i feel like
there's a lot of, fun CREATIVE i always love that
kind of magic in, games AND i feel like it's
rare for. That it feels, like oh we always have
you can always shoot a water spell or a fire,
spell but like having, cool Weird earth magic is like
pretty fun and unique, here and the game like really
seems to double down on. THAT i don't know IF
i feel a whole lot about the story or like
what's going on in the world, necessarily BUT i think
even just once again going back to like the words
that guy used of like warmth and, LONELINESS i think
even just having like an interesting lonely experience in this,
world lonely but you still have like a nice wolf
companion who will keep you. Company i'm sure make sure
you're not. Lonely But I'm i'm like really excited for this.
GAME i think it looks really. Cool And i'm not
a Big soul's, guy but there's Something And i'm not
a Big pokemon or game freak guy, either but there's
something about the fusion here that seems like an oddity to,
me AND i JUST i do really want to explore,
this and, yeah it's hard for me to get invested
in souls like combat. GAMES i really need to be
super into it to love that and the, difficulty so
we'll see what that looks. LIKE i also didn't really
get much of a vibe like did you say any
like bonfires in This like is they're regenerating enemies or
is it more? Linear LIKE i couldn't really get a
feel for.
Speaker 2: That, yah, Yeah i'm not. SURE i imagine like the
like the bigger challenging enemies probably won't, respond so, like
LIKE i guess that the boss types that was Similar
soul's game would, be but, YEAH i didn't see anything
that really stood out to be like a bonfire.
Speaker 1: Mechanny, Yeah so we'll see what kind of structured it,
is BECAUSE i feel, like also game freak not really
known for like really interesting level, design like it's usually
In pokemon. Game it's just, like, oh you need surf
to get over, this or else you. Can't it's like
and then there's a bit of A Metroid evania element to.
It it's, like, Oh i've found THIS tm AND i
can put it on My lapris and NOW i can
go over. Here but it doesn't feel like as well
designed As eliza p Or Elden ring Or Dark souls
or anything like. That so we'll see what the actual
level world design is of. This but, again this is
coming out in the, summer and, YEAH i think it's
really jumped up my anticipated of the year. List i'm
quite excited to check this one. Out, Yeah, so any
other thoughts On Beast? Reincarnation uh, NO i don't think. So,
okay why don't you tell me About? Kiln then this
is a new game From DOUBLE p, nine of, course
who Released keeper last, Year psychonauts to two or three years.
Back they always make, weird interesting, things and here they
are with another strange co opy multiplayer things not co,
OP i guess more competitive. Multiplayer, yeah what do you
think Of? Kiln and, yeah can you describe it for
the listeners at?
Speaker 2: Home i'll try my. Best it's a very very strange. Game, Yeah,
NO i mostly was just captivated the presentation of. IT
i was so, like what the fuck is this going to?
Be and then as it went on it was kind
of selling me on. IT i have like zero interest
in like spending a lot of time like customizing a.
POT i did a pottery. Class not for. ME i
that is not my not my. Forte i'm not good pot,
potterist pot pottery, person, whatever. Potman YEAH i like. That
but like the actual gameplay in here just looks so
zany and wild and just just, big big EXPLOSION i.
DID i like seeing like the different types of like
just just k. POTS i guess you can kind of
utilize big ones that like are are hitting heavy or
small little quick ones like it just seems like a
fun game to try. Out maybe MAYBE i pick it
up and really really not vibing with it because it
looks like there is a lot in this game that
Maybe i'm not necessarily going to be drawn. To but
just just like the gameplay alone looked really really cool
and just seeing like the different variations of pots that
you can you can really mess around, with and it
looks like a really creative game That i'm sure people
will just go crazy with with with with their creations
on what they they can. Make but, know the gameplay
was really like the. Standout he's just like the BIG
PvP co op element to. It it was reminding me
Of Fat princess for some.
Speaker 1: Reason, DUDE i was just thinking. THAT i was, like
this game is Extremely vita coded and very. Fast, yeah
SO i like. That you noticed that. Too.
Speaker 2: YEAH i don't know if it's just like the camera
angle or just like the wild combat to. It it
totally was reminding me of. That AND i loved Playing
Fat princess back the day on THE ps. Three, uh
sunk a lot of hours into. That so, yeah not
one that's LIKE i think they sold me on it right,
away but definitely WHEN i want to. Try just just
just by that, gameplay it looked really really.
Speaker 1: Cool yeah, YEAH i MEAN i love how weird and
different it. Is and you, Know double find known for
making weird stuff where they had Keep her last year
where you play as a. LIGHTHOUSE i can go on
like An odyssey like that that right there is weird
and Different, psychoonots WHICH i still don't, play but is
like definitely a White whale series for me BECAUSE i
feel Like i'm gonna love exactly what that. Is And
i've never Played Brutal legend as a Big Jack black.
Fan that's a big no no on my, End SO
i need to fix. That AND i feel LIKE i
got to check out some more double find things. Here
my pessimistic take that's kind of somewhat related to this
game is, LIKE i don't know just how Much xbox
if you would have an extremely successful game And xbox
will lay off a bunch of your studio or just close. It,
Right we're in a really tough spot in the game,
industry especially From xbox after The Activision bluesard. ACQUISITION i
don't see a game like this doing much for the
for the you, know the bank account Of, xbox and
so it really makes me worried if you have a
keeper last year of. This so, yeah they have a
game coming out every, year but, LIKE i don't know
how many people are buying these games versus just playing
these on game. PASS i don't know how many people
are subscribing two Game, pass two Play kiln Or. KEEPER
i think that number is probably quite. Low maybe Maybe
i'm wrong about. That at the same, TIME i assume
these games have a much lower budget than when you
compare it TO i guess anything else you would see
in this developer. Direct obviously it's going to have just
a minute budget compared to something Like fable or for
THEIR eus and, six of, course BUT i DO i
worry what where the place is for this kind of
thing these, days BECAUSE i think this is one of
those games that comes out for a, bit people play
it for a couple, weeks and then maybe move. On maybe.
Not maybe it's an amazing, game people stick around play
it for a long, time and maybe it just being
in the Game pass system makes it financially more. Viable
SO i just like seeing these. GAMES i just get
worried that a game like this coming from An xbox
studio what it could mean for that. Studio AND i
don't know who's safe, anymore because they're closing studios who
are releasing like great games that sell. Well SO i
don't know what you can possibly do to stay, Afloat
AND i don't know if this is it BUT i
have to imagine, also, LIKE i, mean they had another
game come up last. Year they're probably working on their
next big title and this is a smaller. One they
said that this is like they do a game jam
thing at their. Studio everyone's in a. While people can
pitch an. Idea you get a week or whatever it
is to make a make a weird little game, prototype
and then whatever is like the coolest idea that is
the most exciting for, people they turn into a full.
Project and this is where that came, from which you can, tell,
Right it's like some guy on the team who loves,
pottery who's, LIKE i, wonder who's like fantasizing during a pottery.
Class i'm, like, oh what are these pots could fight each?
Other and then like what if we made that? Game
and now like a bunch of money is going into
making that a, reality which is the coolest thing. Ever
i'm really happy for, them BUT i am. Worried so
hopefully this isn't a bad. Omen hopefully six months from
Now double finds doing great and they announce their next title,
somehow so we'll see what happens. There in terms of
the game, itself it looks. FUN i don't know how
MUCH i would really get into, this BUT i honestly
the part that looked the most fun to me was
just making. Pots LIKE i really like the little builder
system where you're kind of doing it as if you're
in a pottery, class where you can shape it in real,
time and then the game like detect based on the
roughly the shape is like is this a, flute is
this a? Pot is this A i don't know the
at different, pots but you get the. Idea it like
tells you what class it, is and that literally determines
what kind of skills and abilities you can use with
it in the way it attacks and all that kind
of fun. Stuff and then in real time it'll like
put like eyes and feet and hands on it to
in like realistic spots that make it look. Good and
then you can of course like painted and do all
these fun things as. Well so that is really. FUN
i love that, idea AND i hope THIS i just
think it's gonna be a fun. GAME i hope it
has like easy couch co op, too BECAUSE i think
this would be a fun one to pop on a
twenty four hour stream or something like. That for almost
jump in, there throw throw it in the. Gauntlet this
would be a fun gountlet. GAME i, think you, know
give us three minutes to make the best pot you
can in three minutes and then duke it out for
ten to fifteen. Minutes that would be really. Fun so
we'll see what happens. Here but, yeah that is coming
out this, Spring so, yeah we'll see what happens With
kiln from a Double. Fine and that takes us to the,
headliner the big deal for you and Me kirkland as
Big fable one, Fans and, yeah this is finally our
first big look At, fable our first first true look at,
gameplay because we've got a couple of trailers, before a
couple of things that looked a little gameplay, like but
it seemed, like, okay this is more just THE cgi
trailer instead of actual. Gameplay so we got to see
a bunch of, combat we got to see a bunch
of the town. Stuff there's a many million different directions
we can go. Here but, yeah JUST i, guess on
a scale from one to, ten how impressed were you
with this showing here Of? Fable, hmm good.
Speaker 2: QUESTION i THINK i want to say like an eight eight,
okay and a half with a little bit of an
asterisk on, there BECAUSE i don't know if it was
just my my, version or maybe it was just a bad.
Presentation but the frames were, off weren't they for this
frame rate.
Speaker 1: Was looking, bad which you compare it to a game
Like foorza Or bias Of incarnation in the same showcase
and those frame rates do look. Good it makes me.
Worried but of course it could be YouTube. Compression it
could be that this game is various months away and
the build they had to show this gameplay was probably
recorded months ago right where they cause it takes a
long time to put these showcases, together so that's What
i'm hoping. For but it looked like lower than thirty,
fps so that's.
Speaker 2: Worrying, yeah, Absolutely, Yeah, no that was my biggest like
like hold, BACK i, think but like the design and
like the detailed like it looked really really, good LIKE i,
think like the actual level of detailed characters and just
like the, yeah just the, world the, environment the, enemies the,
shading the, lighting like all of that was really. Good
but the whole back was the frame. Rate so like
If i'm if that's actually the final WHICH I i
don't think that that is the. CASE i would really
hope that they would smooth out that frame. RATE i
hope it is just something presentation wise on why it
looks like. That, yeah maybe it.
Speaker 1: Has a performance mode or a quality mode that kind of,
thing and you, know for the sake of the, showcase they're, like,
oh let's show off the best looking fidelity we, Can,
yeah sacrificing in the frame rate because YouTube will compress it.
Anyway so, yeah, hope, hopefully crossing the, fingers that's what
that's going. On but, again this is probably recorded maybe months,
ago and it's not coming out until the, fall so
it's still got ways to, Go so hopefully that's.
Speaker 2: Yeah but, uh like IF i put that to the,
side like, DEFINITELY i would say like an eight eight
and a half on on impressed pressness and impressedness. Impressiveness but,
NO I I i think this this feels like our
really true like honored successor to to THE O G fable.
Game just like the familiar, places the the things that
they decided to like hold on, to whether that be
like The hobs or like like various like familiar enemy
types or like they mentioned in, here like they're keeping
That british humor that that that THAT og game, had
WHICH i just. Love the music was just so nostalgic for.
Me in this they had it playing on the background
the whole showcase and The fable, section and it was
just it Was, hitten it was hitting the ART i, love,
yeah and uh, yeah just just whether it be like
the chicken chaser, reference the fact that you like a
chicken like very similar type of. Animation the romancing side
that's definitely, elevated but you can still do like very
much the same things that were kind of brought into
like the world of The fables with with THAT og,
game whether it, yeah is romancing or just buying the
town and just like getting money passively by by your,
investments LIKE i do like. That they they talked a
big portion of that how it like these. Games we
talked to people that love like THAT Og fable like
it was never the, gameplay it was pretty much just
what you could do around around the. World AND i
completely agree with. THAT i love just finding wives and you,
Know belchin and farting in town and just doing all
that type of. Stuff my my one like Thing i'm
maybe a little bit question marked on is like the
morality system how they say it's like very. SUBJECTIVE i
don't really know what that, means BUT i don't. Know
for everything else that was in. HERE i did really
like WHAT i saw the. GAMEPLAY i really really liked.
It it seems like just an just an upgrade from
what THAT og one, was not like a complete. Reimagining
like the locking on system looks really really. Similar BUT
i liked how the weapons feel, heavy like when you're
swinging them, around and like it does feel like a
more modern version of the stuff that. Was, yeah just
just brought from that first. Game so, OVERALL i really
impressed by. IT i think it looks really really, solid
AND i want to be. THERE i want to be
their day. ONE i want to get this. Game So i'm,
yeah it. Worked it worked for me the showcase they sold.
Speaker 1: Me yeah that's. Great, YEAH i Think i'm a little
bit lower than you on maybe like a seven to
seven point five on the high. Level obviously like some
of the things a frame, rate BUT i don't know
how much stock to put in those. NOW i think for,
me the combat did look pretty, underwhelming and, honestly anything
outside of like the towns to me was quite. UNDERWHELMING
i think that's Where i'm at right. Now but like
the town stuff looks absolutely. AMAZING i can't wait to
talk about all those little details going on. There BUT
i think even like you, know this is they, said
this is like the first fully open world, fable WHICH
i think makes a lot of, sense and especially playground
and and just their pedigree of the games they've made,
previously which of course are not in the same. Genre
but just like the large, landscapes the just visual the
fidelity of, it the detail in, nature but also you,
know a studio that traditionally makes racing, games so much
of like racing games and open worlds and like environments
and things like, that all of it is like just
to trick the, eye, Right like you never really interact
with any of that. Stuff it's always just something you drive,
by and so it just has to look good enough
for like you to race by it at eighty kilometers
per an hour and not like look at the little.
Details and this is a very different experience than. That
this is a very, slow kind of thoughtful situation where
you're probably looking around at every little. Detail you're slowly
walking through this. World you have a, horse SO i
guess you could go a little bit quicker on, there
and obviously that seems to be the case in the.
Towns BUT i didn't see anything when you're out in
the open world other than like there was they showed
like little combat, sequences BUT i didn't see anything else out,
there and So i'm, Curious so what going around the
open world looks like other than just, combat you, Know
AND i don't know what that. IS i don't know
If i'm asking for like mini. GAMES i don't know
If i'm asking for like you, Know ghost Of tushima
chasing the foxes. AROUND i don't think that's What i'm asking,
For BUT i JUST i wanted to see like a
little bit more of what the open world looks, like
what you can expect to do and see out, there
and maybe even just like more of a walkthrough of
like What One quest looked. Like so obviously this game
comes out in the. FALL i assume we're gonna get
maybe a direct all about it later, on because they've
done that with a couple of the games that they've
had At Xbox developer directs and things like, that AND
i feel like we could easily get another twenty thirty
minute run through of this game and see a lot
more of. It but, YEAH i am really curious, what
like they really highlighted again this quest with this giant
and this guy took this like growth hormone and now
he's like huge and you have to decide if you
want to spare, him WHICH i guess would be leaving
like a potentially dangerous giant around in the, world or
you can kill. Him AND i like that they said, that, like,
yeah he'll his body will stay, there like it'll be
known every time you walk, by you'll see this giant's.
Body and obviously everyone in town's gonna know about that,
too because you can't hide a giant, body and like
that people are gonna react to. That BUT i kind
of want to, see like what does that whole quest look,
like you, know like what is like step by, step
what is the walkthrough of? That BECAUSE i feel like
they sometimes do things like, that these developer, Directs SO
i am curious to see what that looks like and
what your kind of options are in those sort of,
situations and like is it just binary like that you
like one choice or, another or is it like you
have made various choices that led to the point that
got to the. Result So i'm curious to see what
some of that looks. Like but, YEAH i guess talking
a little bit more about the, combat as you, mentioned
it's kind of like feels like a little bit more
slow and, heavy which is definitely the case and like
the Original fable and stuff like, that and it's definitely
very popular now with like souls like games and. THINGS
i think the magic looked, okay BUT i think for,
me like some of the movement during the combat sequences
looked a little, clunky LIKE i think when you were
just like fighting one guy and then you like defeed
the guy and move on to the next, guy like
that to me seeing a little, sluggish a little. Clunky
and Maybe i'm also just making the comparison because back
In fable, ONE i would always as soon AS i
could get the ability to teleport behind guys whatever that
was shadow, step that was like the first THING i
would hunt down in the skill tree every, Time and
so Maybe i'm just used to, that but it did
look a little a little slow and clunky for my
for my liking to be, Honest.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah that's. FAIR I i definitely saw that it
didn't bother me too too. Much some of THAT i
was thinking might be remedied a little bit with like better,
frames like like maybe like the worst frames are just
making those womens feel even more. Sluggish but it definitely
isn't as smooth as other Combats i've seen in the.
Past BUT i think in my mind it's just very
similar to what what the what THE og, Was AND
i think it's one of those things, that, yeah just
As i'm going along like with with the game and
playing it, MORE i probably won't Like i'll probably just
like it the whole. Time, ESPECIALLY i don't, KNOW i
feel like there wasn't as much like willpowers kind of shown.
There So i'm kind of holding that in the back
of my mind too that like maybe just as you,
said like maybe there is an ability like that that
makes the combat feel a lot faster and a lot
more just just quicker, pace or even THE og had
abilities where you could just make like ghost swords that
would just help you battle and maybe it wouldn't feel
like you're just having a one on one like over
and over and over again in those battle. Sequences but,
YEAH i fair criticism, THOUGH.
Speaker 1: I, MEAN i think they are going for a little
bit more. Realism LIKE i think always one of the
THINGS i love about fables art design is like just
really exaggerated scale of certain. Things if you just like
look at a house or look at like a guard's,
shoulders like things are just really like big and, bulky
and like they do look kind of weird and off
right and like very fairy tale, esque which is a
very fable. Thing BUT i think with this they've they've
gone a lot, more a lot more, grounded a lot more.
Realistic there is still moments that feel very fable and
like the grand scale when not like specifically with like,
BUILDINGS i think it really stuck to, that but in
GENERAL i think they've kind of toned it down a little.
Bit it seems like a little bit less colorful as,
well like in terms of just the tones and, whatnot
which you, KNOW i don't really have an issue with that,
necessarily but, Man, KIRKLAND i missed the experienced. Orbs i'll
tell you. THAT i like the unrealistic goofiness of you
hit a guy and then a fuckedn of orbs just
burst out of, him and then you hold the right
trigger to have them sucked all into your so you
can level. Up so that's one Thing i'm bummed out to.
See that's.
Speaker 2: Fair that's completely. Fair, yeah great sound effect too when
you collect.
Speaker 1: Them oh so, good so, good the best let's talk about,
WELL i guess also in terms of some of the combat,
things they showed off some of the classic returning, enemies
like The, hobs The. Balvarines they didn't show The, balvaris
but they just said they're gonna be in their trolls
some things like. THAT i really like. That there's this
one floating enemy that had like a lantern for a.
Head at one point it like opens the lantern gate
or the lantern, door whatever it, is and then you
can like shoot an arrow in. There that's its weak.
Spot so love. That love to see some of the old.
Favorites and then like The, cockatrists like the the whatever
it is lying, chicken whatever that that combo. Is so
that stuff seems really. FUN i think the more they
get weird with it is again very fitting for the fable.
Setting but, YEAH i like to see some of those
enemies coming. Back here's another thing, too in terms of the.
Realism they've talked about, this they didn't really show it
in the direct But i've talked about in an interview
since of the. Morality so obviously a big part Of
fable is like doing good deeds or evil. Deeds and
in the first, game it was like very overt of
like the more evil you, got horns would literally start
growing out of your. Head you look more and more
like a, demon like a. Devil and then what happened
if you were, GOOD i guess your skin was just,
clean and your eyes were blue and.
Speaker 2: Stuff you get like a, Halo you get a, halo, right,
yeah and then there'd be like little fairy things going around,
you like little.
Speaker 1: Pixies that's, right that's. Right so they they've said they
there is no visual difference to your morality in This you're.
Not your character's not going to change. Physically it'll more
just BE i guess like in your in your dialogue
with other con Like you're their morality will be there
in every way except for the fact that your character
is not gonna like physically change, appearance which is fine
because you can always just put on like an evil
looking gown if you want to look more, evil, right, Yeah,
so BUT i saw a lot of a lot of
people really pissed off about that that they Don't they
aren't bringing back some of that, detail WHICH i would
not be mad if it, was But I'M i.
Speaker 2: Can, yeah, YEAH I i personally liked like the change
of look that you would get back in THE og,
one depending on which which alignment you're kind of siding,
with But i'm totally okay with it not being there.
Anymore and like you, said you can just kind of
you can shift up your outfit if you want to
look a little bit less evil or a little bit more.
Evil but, yeah, hey there you all perfect.
Speaker 1: Timing did you just finish your? Sentence that is?
Speaker 2: Perfect, YEAH i was just. GIVING i was just SAYING
i did like the fact that it changed your look
back in THE og, one But i'm not really too
bothered by, it because you, know sometimes you don't want
to look evil and. Bald and, uh that's true because
because the thing with the horns is like you kind
of had to make your guy bald otherwise you would
just have this like really weird hairline where your horns
are coming out.
Speaker 1: Of. Yeah, yeah your characters looked, Ugly so there is
Some the other showed up some of the customization of
costumes and, stuff and a lot of people were wondering
if the character the woman that they've shown in all
the trailers was like the only, option but, no you
can't play is like a. Man you can switch it,
up you can look, hover you want that kind of.
Thing so all that, stuff you know pretty much. Expected
BUT i guess that was new stuff that they showed.
HERE i guess you. Know another thing too that's come
up in the last few days is them being. Specifical but,
like this is not a. Sequel this is almost like
a reboot Of fable in a sense where it's, like,
yeah obviously there's certain enemies and locations coming, back but
like this is a new, story like using all the same.
Stuff so an example here is like the one of
the main towns or the big town we saw here Is,
bowerstone which is of course an iconic location from the first.
Game it looks very. Different it has shared some of
the same like design, sensibilities but it's like for its
all intensive, purposes like a completely new city just with
like the same. Name So i'm fine with that, Too
AND i like kind of a new code of, Paint
AND i think that's kind of WHAT i Expected like,
yeah as someone who like just played a ton Of
fable one and never really got too much Into fable
two and, Three LIKE i don't need it to be
a continuity of that story BECAUSE i don't even know
what the story. IS i don't even really remember all
the things that happened In fable. ONE i remember like
little details or funny quests and things like, that BUT
i don't Think i've ever even rolled credits on the,
game which is SOMETHING i know we've talked about and
HOW I, well we're also planning on maybe doing a
retro that original game before this comes, out, too so
Maybe i'll finally roll credits on the. Game and Like
i've never played THE dlc like lost chapter, stuff SO
i have a lot of blind spots in this. SERIES
i really just with my cousin would go kick chickens
and like do funny things in. Town Like that's WHY
i was so happy that was a big part of this,
trailer is that like they didn't really seem to focus
on like in this, game you're gonna go on an
epic quest and kill the False, god like because to,
me that's never What fable's been. About it's but screwing,
around messing with, NPCs goofing, off having a good, time
maybe doing a quest here or. There but like it's
just an extremely silly game that is kind of like
a life sim for, me is kind of How i've played,
it even THOUGH i didn't think about those terms back
in the. Day SO i Think i'm okay with, that
AND i like to see what have going on, here
and it's going to be fun to be back back
slash kind of Visiting bowerstone for the first, Time SO
i like the kind of use of old and new
at the same.
Speaker 2: Time, yeah, NO i completely. AGREE i loved that the
focus was on those just life sim elements BECAUSE i
think that was probably the majority of the time SPEN
i played in that game is just doing the life sim.
Stuff and, YEAH i liked how they mentioned that you
can kind of interact and talk to like every SINGLE,
npc and LIKE i like the little like a little
bar that would say like what they think of, you
whether you're like some rich snob or something like, That
like that's really really.
Speaker 1: Funny reminds you how you've wronged them or how you've like,
yeah brought justice or.
Speaker 2: If you evicted them out of your, House like that's
kind of such a good Cool so, yeah SO I
i love that that stuff, There AND i think that's
another thing that MAYBE i DON'T i don't really focus
too much in on the game. Plays it's, like, yeah,
okay it's, there but that's not really What i'm jumping
into this game. FOR i am really curious, though BECAUSE
i imagine it'll go the same route that the Og one,
did where, yes this one is an open world, game
but like the story will still be somewhat. Linear and
they said your character starts as a, kid and then
you grow up as you did in the Og, ones
and and the Og one is yet like near the
end of the, game your character is like eighty six years,
old like he is old man at that point you
like a big beard curious like how much the ages in.
Speaker 1: This, Right so presumably there is going to be that
that same idea of like you're playing through the life
of this.
Speaker 2: Character, yeah you just don't see them like really different
sizes or anything like LIKE i know an endg, one
like as you get more, health your character like becomes
like drags to, destroy like you try massive uh not
so much showcase into. THAT i really hope that is
a really or, SORRY i hope that is a mechanical
that they keep in this new, one because that was
really cool from THE og. One if if you are
doing different builds and you have like a full and
just brute, character that's just, massive or if you have
just like a mage that's just like a little bit
more skinny. Scrowny, YEAH i really hope that stuff's in
the game.
Speaker 1: Too, yeah BECAUSE i mean they showed off like a
bunch of different, spells which presumably are things you're unlocking
on a scale tree using points via leveling up to
get but we didn't like really dig into like THE
rpg mechanics, necessarily so we don't know how that skill
tree is gonna. Look and, yeah is it gonna just
simplify to like a sky room type thing where like
every time you level, up you pick do you want,
health you want, manard do you want, stamina and then
like you get some skill points here. There we'll, see
it's probably a little bit of, this a little bit of.
That probably keep keep some of THE og, stuff keep it.
FRESH i don't even really remember exactly how the system
worked back In fable, one So i'll have to revisit
that when we get the retro. There but uh, YEAH
i also yeah they had they, said there's a thousand,
NPCs all with a individual, name you, know some sort
of personality or story to, them not necessarily a story
like a quest or, anything but you can follow them.
Around they all have a, schedule so all very LIKE
i remember that's like a Very oblivion marketing kind of.
Thing was like every SINGLE npc you can follow them
around and they have a job and they go to
this place in that. Place but it's fun, stuff and
especially when you Like oblivion doesn't have all the ability
to buy all these. Shops you could buy like a
house and upgrade, it but in this you can buy
all sorts of, houses change the furniture out vict people you,
know rented out to, people put your family in, it have,
kids all these like extra level of detail that like
elder scrolls and stuff don't. Have and so to combine
the schedule part with all that sim element is going
to be really. Fun you, know you like buying, houses
buying BUSINESSES i just MENTIONED i love, Too like one
of the businesses that you went up to they went
up to in this trailer to purchase. It was a toy,
store AND i just you, KNOW i LOVE i love.
That how many games do you know to have like
a toy store that you can go, into like name one.
Speaker 2: Fable you gotta be.
Speaker 1: There, YEAH i think you know so many, games especially
LIKE rpg fantasy. Things it's like every place you can
go into is so it's like this is the weapon,
shop this is where you buy food and, potions and
like maybe an eldest roll's, okay we have like a,
bookstore which is like not quite a you, know critical
to the. Whatever it's just like that's kind of a
more for lower. One but like having a toy, store
like that's just a, cute fun, idea and you know
you can go in there and buy a gift for
your like fourteenth kid's, birthday and like that seems. Fun
LIKE i love that level of. Detail LIKE i really
enjoy that kind of. Thing you can hire, employees check
in to see how they're, doing probably fire, them probably
give them, promotions things like, that all the reputation. Stuff
LIKE i just can't wait to dig into some of that.
STUFF i don't know how we're gonna get all the
gold to buy all these, places But i'll find out a.
Speaker 2: WAY i, guess oh, yeah. Absolutely one mechanic THAT i
absolutely loved in that og was when you would get
LIKE i can't, REMEMBER i think they had like a
speech stat or something like. That it was like perhaps
where it affects your stealth and your like your prices
that you can get in. Shops SO i would like
pretty much always max, that and THEN i would like
go about, where, okay in this, area whether IT'S i
don't know where the balvarines are like like that area
of the, World like the price of chickens is like
really cheap, Here so THEN i would buy a shit
ton and then like go To bowerstone and then like
sell because there was like an economy system like, that
AND i that's HOW i would make like a shit
ton of. Money especially once you get, money you could
just buy like a ship ton of gems in this
one area and then go to a different. Area obviously
it's not like an early game mechanic because you don't
have the money to do. That but, yeah LIKE i
just remember raking in so much money in that, game
and like that was very, basic bare bones compared to
like what it seems this is gonna, be like AM
i gonna be able to just buy and sell stuff
with like any of these, NPCs, like AM i just
be able to buy their shoes that they have on
their on their. TOES i don't, know but that's Something
i'm excited to.
Speaker 1: Explore, YEAH i mean the the city Of bowerstone that
we were kind of highlighted on in this, Showcase like
it looked, huge right a castle, area there's like different
parts of the. Town there's even like a bunch of
houses on over like this huge. BRIDGE i wonder if
we can go in every single, building because that's the
thing In, fable like the Original, fable you can go
in like every single. Building is that, yeah that sound?
Correct or maybe there's a couple like outside the loading
zone that like just to make the town look, bigger
but like you can't actually walk up to the doors or,
anything but like that level of, detail and even LIKE
i remember going into houses and like stealing stuff or you,
know breaking down the door finding things like. That and
obviously you can like buy every house and rent. Them
SO i assume that's gonna be the case, here AND i,
HOPE i hope it. IS i hope it's not just
like something just happens in a city in game where it's, Like,
okay it's a, cool decent sized, town but you can
go in like three buildings you know that are like
critical to like certain quests and, Things and SO i
hope for these towns that we can at least go.
In i'm not Gonna i'm not gonna ask for every single,
building But i'll just, say like most of, THEM i
hope we can go most of them BECAUSE i think
that's also kind of crucial for what this game is pitching.
Too if every character has a, house has a job
as a place they go, to you would think that
that would be a place that you'd be able to
follow them into and things like. That so hopefully it
lives up to the hype in that. Way but, also
like multiple, Towns i'm curious to see how big they.
Are but that, is, yeah by far the Thing i'm
most excited, for and, HONESTLY i didn't think they would
like nail it this. Much so obviously it remains to
be seeing how good this stuff is in the. Game
but LIKE i, thought maybe we would get like some
of these, details but it'd be kind of its new
thing probably be focused on combat in the open, world
but it seems like who needs an open world when
you have a town In fable like that seems to
be where the heart and soul this game is at
least off this one showcase even like the blacksmith in
mini game looks, simple BUT i think that looks really.
FUN i can't wait to be working in the blacksmith
shop THAT i buy. Someday and, LIKE i wonder what
other kind of mini games there are for, like, hey
they should import the ceramics making mini game from killing
them and they have a ceramics shop as, well that
would be that would be. Great so, honestly the more
we talked about this is more EXCITED i. GET i
just hope that it's an overall package that's as exceptional
as like some of this stuff, looks and if that
is the, case really. IMPRESSED i mean the fact that
playgrounds made nothing but racing games for how many years
and they're coming in and like seems to be making
a really, cool UNIQUE rpg that's gonna like stand apart
from Like kingdom com Or Elder scrolls or these other
things that are coming out these. DAYS i think it's
like really. Impressive so hopefully hopefully they stick the. Landing
we'll find out in the. Fall but, yeah anything we
didn't mention here that you want to bring up here with, fable.
Speaker 2: Not so. MUCH i maybe MAYBE i missed. It but
did they mention like augments and stuff that you can
get to your, weapons because that was a big part
of the first game is you could get like really
like silver additions that would like really help you against
balverines and stuff like, that and like it would it
would make certain sections of the game like a cake
walk if you had, it or if you like really
specialized in one play, style you're just gonna get destroyed
when you're facing like a certain weapon. Type they don't
really go too much into, that SO i imagine it we'll
be in. There we never.
Speaker 1: Really saw like a, menu like we didn't see we
didn't like go in the characters look at their, stuff
SO I i mean they did say that every enemy
type has, like, uh you, know strengths and, weaknesses so
you have to find what those. Are SO i IMAGINE
i in the context of this trailer is more, like,
oh like this one's a week to, fire so you
throw a fire attack at. It BUT i imagine that'll
also extend to the, weaponry especially if you can't literally blacksmith.
Stuff i'm sure you can go and like put those
augments in. Yourself SO i imagine we'll see stuff like.
Speaker 2: That, yeah, No I'm i'm excited to see more of
that you, mentioned like the ghosts with like the little,
lantern the door would open and that's like your spot to.
Shoot there's another section where they're using like a bow
and arrow and they like shoot them in the knee
and it like makes the like makes the enemy fall.
Over that wasn't really in THE og. Game so that's
kind of. Cool more like just strategic areas that you
might be targeting if like an enemy's running at. You
SO i like that. Edition good.
Speaker 1: POINT i, MEAN i feel Like, fable compared to some
other action combat rpg things, like has always had really
good feedback when you hit, Someone LIKE i can just
picture in my head when you get like a big
hit on enemy and they like do a little torpedo
like flying on the ground or. Whatever like hits feel very,
chunky and so adding that like that extra little detail
of like weak spots or like, yeah hitting things that
will knock them on the ground in that, way that
almost feels like less cartoony and more like realistic as,
well which seems to fit the tone of this. Overall
so good call out. THERE i think there are some
things to be excited about with with the, combat JUST
i think the main, ISSUE i think for both of
us is the is the frame. Rate so the that's
hard to say if it will actually look like that
when the game comes, out so we'll.
Speaker 2: See another thing THAT i do hope they have in,
here WHICH i really loved in that first game was the. Arena,
yes it was like a level in THAT og game of,
course just like going through different, waves and but like
after you finished that, level you could just go do
the arenas and it would be a big thing where
like you could stay in and then you'd like multiply
your money that you're that you're, having or you could
exit get you, know get some health potions or whatever
you might need and then get ready for the next.
Round but you'll lose like the bonus for saying in.
There really really fun and this, gameplay you, know it
looks a little bit more in depth than what THAT
og one. WAS i would love to go in there
and just do some waves of The arena take On
thunder or they're equivalent To thunder in this.
Speaker 1: Game, yeah, yeah, Absolutely. YEAH i hope we get some
of that stuff. Too AND i wonder what other like
care because they kind of hinted that those characters are
gonna come back in a way or LIKE i don't,
KNOW i don't know what that means, exactly BUT i
feel like they like they said that about, enemies BUT
i feel like they were maybe hinting at that in
some of the character stuff as. WELL i mean they
said there's The Hero's guild like In, bowerstone so obviously
really excited to see what that looks. LIKE i don't
know if that's going to be a similar thing where
you actually age up through, there because again we did
see a section where you're walking around as like a,
Kid so, uh we'll see if they go for that
same storyline or if THEY i feel like most people
these days want you kind of like get quicker into
the action of, it like into that like skip some
of that story. Stuff but maybe they want to do
something like, That so we'll see what happens. There but,
Yeah fable coming out in the, fall we'll see when
that is, hopefully like maybe like a Nice september could be.
GOOD a couple of months BEFORE, GUTA i think would
probably be wise for them to get a little a
little bit of ways from. That if they can manage,
that hopefully it doesn't get. Delayed we'll see what. Happens but,
yeah there you. Go there's fable in The Xbox Developer.
Direct in, general this is a fun episode as is. Usual,
kirkland thank you for joining, me everyone, listening thank you
for doing exactly, that and we'll be back again next
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