Speaker 1: Happy Sunday. Thanks for joining us. We're gonna get started
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Speaker 1: here tonight. So yeah, we're talking about winterfield Day, one
Speaker 1: of my favorite times, one of my favorite events through
Speaker 1: the year, because well I was on a call with it.
Speaker 1: You guys, remember Tom Oh gosh, I forget Tom's last
Speaker 1: I forget his call sign right now. But he used
Speaker 1: to live stream every Tuesday night, I think it was,
Speaker 1: and he'd go for like three hours or whatnot, and
Speaker 1: he'd have a lot of different guests on there and
Speaker 1: covering a lot of good subjects. And the statement was
Speaker 1: made one time on his show that winterfield Day is
Speaker 1: better for testing your equipment because summerfield day the weather's
Speaker 1: so nice and cheery and blah lah lah. And I'm like, obviously,
Speaker 1: you've never done summerfield Day in Texas because winterfield Day
Speaker 1: can be we might it might be eighty five degrees
Speaker 1: where we are, and it might be twenty five degrees
Speaker 1: where we are, and you never can really tell what
Speaker 1: it's going on. But winterfield Day is winterfield Day is
Speaker 1: a fun, fun event. Enjoyed it for the last several years,
Speaker 1: and I'm excited to talk about that tonight. So I'm
Speaker 1: still waiting on Frank to uh wind down his stream
Speaker 1: and come to the chat. He's gonna be watching the
Speaker 1: chat for us, but we're just gonna hop into it here.
Speaker 1: And I've got Marvin and Mike, not that Mike but
Speaker 1: the other mic. How you guys doing the Seeker this evening.
Speaker 2: We're good.
Speaker 1: A lot of Mike's in him radio, but even in
Speaker 1: winterfield Day board, there's at least two of you, right, so.
Speaker 2: There is so the only way I keep them straight
Speaker 2: is Michael and Mike, okay difference.
Speaker 1: So that's and Michael spells his a little bit differently
Speaker 1: than most.
Speaker 2: My mother and my mother got creative when.
Speaker 1: It looks like it looks like it's almost like Dutch
Speaker 1: or German or something spelling of it. But I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Got your good questions goes, it's basically Mike with an
Speaker 2: elm and so okay, so it's m I C H
Speaker 2: A y L. No, it's my k which is very different.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I've only say like one other time in
Speaker 2: my life. So's it's interesting that it's good. Yeah, he's
Speaker 2: he's busy night working on other Winterfield dy stuff, so
Speaker 2: he couldn't make it.
Speaker 1: In Okay, Well that's okay. I'm I'm happy you two
Speaker 1: were able to make it. I know you all have
Speaker 1: been doing a lot of work on the back end
Speaker 1: and uh talking about a lot of stuff and you
Speaker 1: guys are Frank is still yacking. Well that's that's fine.
Speaker 1: It's because he's Frank. It's okay, that's not a problem.
Speaker 1: He'll be here in a minute. It's fine. He's he's
Speaker 1: I like him here because he watches that. He does
Speaker 1: a really good job on watching the the chat for questions.
Speaker 1: So but that's okay. We're just gonna hop right into
Speaker 1: it and start talking about winterfield Day not a big deal.
Speaker 1: So what's been on the what's been on the list
Speaker 1: agenda for whatnot? What's some what's been the big I
Speaker 1: know you guys were talking about some conversations you were
Speaker 1: having about on the Facebook group. So what's the what's
Speaker 1: the big hot topic this year? If any or maybe
Speaker 1: there's more than one, Micha.
Speaker 2: I'll it you running with that first.
Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah, so we this is actually something that came
Speaker 3: out of your live stream last year, Jason, so and
Speaker 3: I I give I give credit and or blame whichever
Speaker 3: he wants to take to gray Man Poe to ask
Speaker 3: him this question last year because he asked basically things
Speaker 3: like APRS meshtastic, can you make contacts with them for
Speaker 3: Winter field Day? And you absolutely can. They just have
Speaker 3: to be simplex one radio to another radio. Yeah, all
Speaker 3: those things right, same same way you do any other
Speaker 3: Winter field Day contact. You just have to reconfigure. And
Speaker 3: so we put a little bourbon there about that, including
Speaker 3: win Link, and it has we need to workshop how
Speaker 3: we talk about it, because what it's done is we've
Speaker 3: got the win link objective, which doesn't is not a
Speaker 3: qso it's just send a win link email, receive one back.
Speaker 3: You get a multiplier because you can also make QSOs
Speaker 3: with wing Link, but you have to use peer to
Speaker 3: peer mode. And so a lot of people are like, well,
Speaker 3: say one thing it counts for qso points another thing doesn't.
Speaker 3: What are you doing? So we've I fielded probably a
Speaker 3: dozen questions that same question a dozen times in the
Speaker 3: last couple of days. So happy to clear it up
Speaker 3: here for anyone who needs it. But the real thing
Speaker 3: is we want people to get creative with their with
Speaker 3: their ham radio equipment and making a contact on making
Speaker 3: a Ham radio Winterfield Day contact on Meshtastic gets after that,
Speaker 3: or win link gets after that. That's what we want
Speaker 3: to see.
Speaker 1: I think we ran a BBS on Meshtastic last year
Speaker 1: and we were at a totally different We were a
Speaker 1: totally new spot last year, and we checked on that
Speaker 1: spot again this year. And the cabin that we rented
Speaker 1: inside of a state park it's being renovated, so this
Speaker 1: it wasn't available at all for this month. I think,
Speaker 1: so we're going back to Galveston this year. But I
Speaker 1: know that we set up a BBS last year. I
Speaker 1: think we did actually make one Meshtastic contact that was
Speaker 1: not the group of us inside the cabin operating together
Speaker 1: under the same club call. So that's that's a fun
Speaker 1: event because it's a fun thing to do because you
Speaker 1: don't think about it. But the nine hundred megahertz band
Speaker 1: is totally it's a shared band with multiple services, including
Speaker 1: Ham Radio. Ham Radio has privileges from nine o two
Speaker 1: to nine twenty seven I think it is. And so
Speaker 1: anything anywhere in there around the nine hundred and fifteen megahertz,
Speaker 1: right in the middle, which is where most of your
Speaker 1: mestastic stuff takes place, it's it's totally inside the Ham
Speaker 1: radio band. So yeah, as long as we don't turn
Speaker 1: on m QTT, which I don't think anybody likes to
Speaker 1: do these days anyway, well we'll probably doing some of
Speaker 1: that as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. So's what I've talked to some some people
Speaker 3: who are better at meshtastic than me, and they've said,
Speaker 3: set your equipment to zero hops, you know, and remember
Speaker 3: our rule about it has to be someone who isn't
Speaker 3: operating Like you mentioned, you're not not someone who's operating
Speaker 3: at your site, and it has to that at rfs
Speaker 3: to make it outside your.
Speaker 1: Site, gotcha, Okay, all right, well that might be a
Speaker 1: good It might be a good plan to set up
Speaker 1: like bring like a some sort of push up pull
Speaker 1: or tower or something and put a solar note up
Speaker 1: there a little bit higher, which is probably something we
Speaker 1: probably something we would do anyway, because there's actually I
Speaker 1: was so I was again, we're going we're gonna go
Speaker 1: back to Galveston Island State Park this year. We like
Speaker 1: love operating winterfield Day from a potas spot. Double whammy, right,
Speaker 1: so you get to you get to turn in multiple
Speaker 1: logs for it. But but I was down there last
Speaker 1: month and actually saw some meshtastic uh you being used
Speaker 1: on the island, which I have. It's kind of rare
Speaker 1: to see down there. So and and UH made contacts
Speaker 1: with the two or three stations on one forty six
Speaker 1: five two Simplex as well. So hoping that we of
Speaker 1: course we want to do some HF and uh Rob
Speaker 1: the digital Rancher, he's gonna be down there with this
Speaker 1: at least that's the plan right now. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get some satellite contacts that way. Uh, but I want
Speaker 1: to do some some FM simplex as well, So we're
Speaker 1: gonna try to do some uh extracurricular stuff like that,
Speaker 1: stuff that you do you may or may not typically
Speaker 1: see instead of just sitting on twenty meters the whole time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's one of those things where that's
Speaker 2: why we have a lot of those objectives out there
Speaker 2: where people can do more than just sit there on HF,
Speaker 2: especially if it's a little slow or something else is happening,
Speaker 2: as like go look at a satellite pass and and
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, set up another antenna during that
Speaker 2: time or something that will certainly help as well. So
Speaker 2: and obviously by doing the completing those objectives or those
Speaker 2: objective number of multipliers we call them, oh amen's uh,
Speaker 2: you actually gain additional QS points because of it too
Speaker 2: at the same time, So it's really going to be
Speaker 2: for a benefit for people to go out and do that.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, no, that's a that's a great plan.
Speaker 1: I think. Good. Okay, well I want to talk a
Speaker 1: little let's Frank just join, so let's let's get him
Speaker 1: in here real quick. But also I want to talk
Speaker 1: a little bit more about the about the setting, the
Speaker 1: would you call it for wind link to not to
Speaker 1: to not go over the gateway, but to do like
Speaker 1: a peer to peer setting. When I talk a little
Speaker 1: bit more about that. But Frank, Frank, what's going on? Man?
Speaker 4: Hey man? We ran a little long all right, awesome
Speaker 4: social one of my biggest turnouts. Oh, it was so
Speaker 4: much fun. A lot of friends showed up. I know
Speaker 4: you're gonna be here because you're getting your stream ready
Speaker 4: and going. But Gigaparts put together a birthday bast shale.
Speaker 4: We centered around things you need and used during PODA
Speaker 4: and it was great. It was great. Yeah, and I'm
Speaker 4: going to be finishing up some last of my burden
Speaker 4: on the street. It's always I am going to go
Speaker 4: into co host mode and be watching for any questions
Speaker 4: in the chat to ask live on the air.
Speaker 1: That's what we want.
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, I am.
Speaker 4: A little sad though to say I won't be able
Speaker 4: to make it out to the Winter Field Day this
Speaker 4: go around because my mom decided to schedule the family
Speaker 4: crews together. Yeah. So, oh, I do have a question
Speaker 4: for y'all. If I do contacts on that's tasked it,
Speaker 4: Can I submit my logs as far as emergency preparedness?
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely so we just we we we just talked
Speaker 3: about this and I'm happy to mention it again. So
Speaker 3: you have to, so all the contacts you you make
Speaker 3: are simplex, right, So so one node to another not
Speaker 3: routed through any hops or meshes. Sou said it to.
Speaker 3: You set your node and your q so partner sets
Speaker 3: their node to zero hops. That way, there's no way
Speaker 3: it's getting outside of you two. You exchange the winterfield
Speaker 3: Day exchange and you know you're you're in amateur mode too,
Speaker 3: hopefully so you're not encrypted, because that's that's bigger than
Speaker 3: winterfield Day. That becomes an FCC thing, right, But yeah,
Speaker 3: there's absolutely a way you can configure that, and and
Speaker 3: we want to see people doing that.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I was ready for you to say no, and
Speaker 4: then I was going to help make a thing about it.
Speaker 4: So you really turned it on the head here.
Speaker 1: But yes, I've learned lands frame.
Speaker 4: I know I'm usually a step ahead, but I'll side
Speaker 4: uh swiped on this one. But uh, I'll let y'all
Speaker 4: get back at it. I'll be just watching for any
Speaker 4: questions here in the chat, all right.
Speaker 1: So that's yeah, So that's an interesting I didn't think
Speaker 1: about it that way, but that's an interesting point. So
Speaker 1: zero hops because the great that So I guess there's
Speaker 1: two way to look at it. I think I know
Speaker 1: where you're coming. I think I get where you're coming from, though,
Speaker 1: because that would be like using a simplex repeater or
Speaker 1: just a repeater. That'd be using like a two meter
Speaker 1: repeater that's not connected to the internet, right, if you
Speaker 1: were going to do two or three hops away on meshtastic,
Speaker 1: which you know, we don't want to use repeaters in
Speaker 1: field day winterfield day, but it's all off grid because
Speaker 1: we're not going to connect to the internet mqtt. So
Speaker 1: in my mind, it's still simplex. But I guess if
Speaker 1: you're meshing and hopping more than one hop, then it's
Speaker 1: almost like repeater simplex. So yeah, I can see, I
Speaker 1: can see the logic behind that. I get it. So
Speaker 1: I don't have any of my stuff turned down to
Speaker 1: zero hops, so I'm gonna be interested seeing what what
Speaker 1: that looks like. Uh but uh yeah, I uh, that's
Speaker 1: that's it. That's gonna be a it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: fun time to see what to what that does. So good.
Speaker 1: Uh But yeah, I mean I guess that's kind of
Speaker 1: the same thing behind the peer to peer win link thing.
Speaker 3: Right, Yes, absolutely, So that is your your radio to
Speaker 3: another person's radio. And the the trick that I've I
Speaker 3: think people will appreciate is you because with win link,
Speaker 3: you you send an email and someone else gets it.
Speaker 3: You have to in your end your session and then
Speaker 3: re establish another session to get their reply whenever they
Speaker 3: happen to reply. If you if you like so, if
Speaker 3: you and Frank want to do peer to peer win link,
Speaker 3: have an email in your in both your outboxes with
Speaker 3: that winter or field Day exchange mm hmm, so that
Speaker 3: when you connect with each other, both emails send at
Speaker 3: the same time. Done one uh peer to peer win
Speaker 3: link session, you get your your send and reply. So
Speaker 3: now you've met the winterfield Day UH objective multiplayer and
Speaker 3: you've just made a QSO on that band, a digital
Speaker 3: QSO on that band.
Speaker 1: Interesting. I don't know that I've ever done. We did
Speaker 1: in there like a bulletin you can send in addition
Speaker 1: to what you're talking about, in addition to making QSO's
Speaker 1: via win Lincoln. They're like a like a a Winter
Speaker 1: field Day bulletin, like a like a news bulletin or
Speaker 1: something you can send or receive or something like that.
Speaker 4: I think there's a bulletin board.
Speaker 1: Robert Well that that was meantastic, Franks.
Speaker 2: But so we have a bulletin, we have a we
Speaker 2: have a bulletin message that will be sending out right
Speaker 2: some stations.
Speaker 1: So that's what we did last year. We received that
Speaker 1: bulletin message from you guys. But I don't remember doing
Speaker 1: any peer to peer stuff, so that's going to be
Speaker 1: an interesting thing to I don't know that I've ever
Speaker 1: used wind link that way. I know it can be,
Speaker 1: I've read about it, but I don't know that I've
Speaker 1: ever used wind link that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't either. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The first time I did it was for winterfield Day
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, and I was actively in communication with
Speaker 3: UH with the other guy on we actually coordinated over
Speaker 3: a j SA call, all right, and we would we'd
Speaker 3: basically be like, okay, this did. We'd go back to
Speaker 3: JSA call when it didn't work and figure out, oh
Speaker 3: my my configurations messed up. His configuration is messed up.
Speaker 3: And so my best advice is try it before Winter
Speaker 3: field Day or it's going to be it's gonna it's
Speaker 3: gonna take about an hour of your day to figure out.
Speaker 3: Never done it.
Speaker 1: Before, I I I imagine that's true.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I mean that that's a that's a great
Speaker 2: you know last year, so it's it's kind of I'll
Speaker 2: give a personal story here and a little bit relevance
Speaker 2: to even last night was last year, I'd set my
Speaker 2: all my gear up, I tested everything. It was all
Speaker 2: working from the house, and I thought it was fine
Speaker 2: that I get out to the winner day sight and
Speaker 2: something I have no idea still do to this to
Speaker 2: this day. What it was was causing an issue. I
Speaker 2: couldn't make JS work last year at all. Couldn't couldn't
Speaker 2: get like the computer connected to it or something. I
Speaker 2: don't remember exactly what it was the issue was, but
Speaker 2: I couldn't resolve it during Winterfield day time. But came
Speaker 2: home and everything was working fine again. So it's just,
Speaker 2: of course the way it goes. But even last night
Speaker 2: there was a big JAS event kind of over the
Speaker 2: weekend here, and I went to connect my laptop to
Speaker 2: it again of course I'm a Mac person, But nonetheless
Speaker 2: it still works. I know it does, a lot of
Speaker 2: people do it and I've done it before, and I
Speaker 2: tried different data cables, but some reason my radio was
Speaker 2: keen just out of the blue, and it would then
Speaker 2: a few minutes later it would stop king and I
Speaker 2: literally have to unplug it sometimes to get it to
Speaker 2: stop king. And I thought, what is going on? So
Speaker 2: I tried different data cable that tried a different computer,
Speaker 2: and I re downloaded from two point two to two
Speaker 2: point three software, and I thought, it's gotta be something
Speaker 2: that that's setting somewhere and within that I'm just going
Speaker 2: to delete it start over, and uh, ultimately, in the end,
Speaker 2: it was something in the radio. I don't know it
Speaker 2: was a setting or what it was in the Icon
Speaker 2: seven o five, but uh, it was something in the
Speaker 2: radio that was causing that radio to key automatically from
Speaker 2: the computer. And so I was able to just go
Speaker 2: in and reset the seven o five back to the
Speaker 2: factory reset and it fixed it. But it's just one
Speaker 2: of those things like I would go through and check
Speaker 2: those things way ahead of time before Winter Field Day.
Speaker 2: That's not the time when you're trying to make contacts
Speaker 2: that you have all these problems going wrong. So, I mean,
Speaker 2: I spent probably two hours last night screwing with it,
Speaker 2: like are you this is unbelievable? Like I shouldn't take
Speaker 2: this long to I mean, I've done JST with a
Speaker 2: computer before. It's not a big deal, but it was something.
Speaker 2: It was, but you didn't realize it was a problem
Speaker 2: in the radio because it was some setting and trying
Speaker 2: to figure out what that setting was. Good luck to you.
Speaker 1: So that's why factory reset a lot of times. It
Speaker 1: is just a quick and easy solution, just kind of
Speaker 1: fixing it. So yeah, totally. Oh, oh gosh, yeah, that's uh,
Speaker 1: that's I think we've all been there before where you're
Speaker 1: fighting with something during the event and that you should
Speaker 1: have tested beforehand. But that is the thing there. But uh, okay,
Speaker 1: so you brought up j C call, which is great.
Speaker 1: So the question of FT eight comes up every year.
Speaker 1: I assume that nothing's changed on on the FT eight
Speaker 1: front this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing's changed on the FT eight front. I think
Speaker 2: Mike and we mentioned this last uh winter field or
Speaker 2: a winter field day board meeting here were still going
Speaker 2: and uh, it was one of those things we kind
Speaker 2: of looks like we hit that on the front and
Speaker 2: several months ago and kind of wiped that out and
Speaker 2: nobody's really asked much about it since then. Mike can
Speaker 2: give us some more information on that if it is.
Speaker 2: But yeah, we continue to you know, say it's not
Speaker 2: an income you know, messaging capable system, and uh, you know,
Speaker 2: we we prefer things like JSA or or riddy or
Speaker 2: something else. There's lots of other digital modes out there.
Speaker 2: You can run FT eight, three and sixty other four
Speaker 2: days of the year, you know, so you know, if
Speaker 2: you want to go overund FT and on field day,
Speaker 2: that's fine, but it's not gonna be smithed as part
Speaker 2: of the log obviously, so right right, Mike, anything else
Speaker 2: on that.
Speaker 3: Hey, the way I phrase it is FT eight is
Speaker 3: not effective at passing emergency traffic. And I welcome people
Speaker 3: to convince me otherwise. And if someone convinces me that
Speaker 3: that I'm wrong, I will bring it to the board
Speaker 3: and we'll have a discussion. So just for everyone else.
Speaker 1: I mean, you technically can couse, you can type anything
Speaker 1: in the field you want.
Speaker 4: I mean, however, though, your fields will automatically change on
Speaker 4: the next contact, so you can't. You got to keep
Speaker 4: updating them.
Speaker 1: Right, But if you're trying to make an emergency contact,
Speaker 1: all you need is one, so you know, send help
Speaker 1: to grid, you know, X, Y Z whatever and uh
Speaker 1: something like that. So I mean it's not designed for that.
Speaker 1: That obviously that's not designed for for that type of communication.
Speaker 1: Can you do it? Sure? In a roundabout way, yeah
Speaker 1: you could. You can do it, And and the character
Speaker 1: space is very limited. Like Riddy and JSA call, you
Speaker 1: can type anything in there you want to. You have
Speaker 1: a whole conversation type of paragraph, but in FT eight
Speaker 1: you can't do that. But I mean, technically it's doable.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's not really made for that.
Speaker 2: So I've had people trying and give me the argument
Speaker 2: that well, it's for medical reasons and this that, and
Speaker 2: I'm blind or something, and it's like, but there's all
Speaker 2: these other alternative modes as well, go figure it out, right,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Yeah, it's just because it's literally shooting fish
Speaker 2: in a burrel. And two it's easy to set up
Speaker 2: and do so it takes a little little effort at work,
Speaker 2: and that's why they want to do it. And it's like,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's not that's not the way it's going
Speaker 2: to work.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, and JSA, it is a very
Speaker 1: fun mode once you get it up and going.
Speaker 2: So it is. It is left. But I had a
Speaker 2: guy at QSO with a guy last night. I'm here
Speaker 2: in Massachusetts right now. I spend some time with my wife,
Speaker 2: and then the guy was in Kansas last night running
Speaker 2: three What's on a QMX radio and we had nice
Speaker 2: I don't know, probably half our qso back and forth
Speaker 2: just via js A call through conversation. It was a
Speaker 2: lot of fun.
Speaker 1: So what banned? Yeah that late at night. I assume
Speaker 1: it's forty So yeah, good, that's that's what. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: I got one of those, one of those qmxes right
Speaker 1: here that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so that's why he was using three whats Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's he was a great signaling to me too.
Speaker 1: Good. That's the way to do it right there. The
Speaker 1: I was tinkering around. This has been several months ago.
Speaker 1: I was tinking around with js E and the Windows
Speaker 1: version is it was Windows was throwing and y'all were
Speaker 1: talking about Windows ten and Windows eleven. Was that on
Speaker 1: your stream, Frank or was that before we went live?
Speaker 1: I can't remember now that was.
Speaker 4: On my stream. We were talking about a little just
Speaker 4: performance and how.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right work. So I keep getting prompted.
Speaker 1: So I built a whole new computer this week because
Speaker 1: I got back from Galveston, brought my computer in booted
Speaker 1: it up, and it came up and it says, or well,
Speaker 1: I started, I logged in and was doing everything fine.
Speaker 1: I started recording a video and it froze on me
Speaker 1: and it blue screened, which it's never done. It's never
Speaker 1: done WU before. And I still I still maintained that
Speaker 1: if you've got a Windows box that's blue screen this
Speaker 1: is twenty twenty six now, right, And I've been saying
Speaker 1: this for about two well actually been saying this is
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. If you've got a Windows box that's blue
Speaker 1: screening on you, you've got a hardware problem. Ninety eight percent
Speaker 1: chance you've got a hardware problem somewhere.
Speaker 4: It's not.
Speaker 1: Windows is pretty sold.
Speaker 4: It's mostly it's a driver utilizing.
Speaker 1: Maybe well today, maybe I've never I've never had a
Speaker 1: driver blue screen. I mean, device manager says the driver's
Speaker 1: not working. But okay, but you know, I've never had
Speaker 1: a driver booty.
Speaker 4: I've seen drivers is the most common blue screen issue.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, mine was a motherboard. Mine blue screened on me,
Speaker 1: and when I rebooted it, it wouldn't post anything on
Speaker 1: the on the on the screen, so I I thought
Speaker 1: it was the video car. I was like, okay, I
Speaker 1: went back and looked, this was like two weeks ago, right, well,
Speaker 1: a week and a half ago. I went back and looked,
Speaker 1: I built this machine in twenty nineteen, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: it was seven years ago. I'm like, I'm thinking it's
Speaker 1: three years old or something like that. In the back
Speaker 1: of my head, I'm like seven years ago. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: I need to upgrade this thing. It still works, but
Speaker 1: it or it did until that point anyway. So I
Speaker 1: got a whole new video card, spent like four hundred
Speaker 1: dollars on a video card because that's important if you're
Speaker 1: live streaming and it but it ended up being the motherboard.
Speaker 1: So I got a new motherboard and CPU and U
Speaker 1: and a new video card, and I use my existing memory.
Speaker 1: I've got thirty two gigs of memory in it, and
Speaker 1: I thought I had no I'm sorry, I've got sixty
Speaker 1: four gigs of memory. I thought I had thirty two,
Speaker 1: and I took it out and I'm like, oh, I
Speaker 1: must have added thirty two at some point in the past,
Speaker 1: because because I've got sixty four now so uh and
Speaker 1: now so now it's up and running just fine. But
Speaker 1: I was tinkering with jsa call, like and it's it's
Speaker 1: it's I reloaded Windows. Well, I didn't reload Windows ten
Speaker 1: because I just put the same hard drive back in
Speaker 1: and let it do its update thing. But it kept
Speaker 1: prompting me Windows eleven. I'm like, no, no, I don't
Speaker 1: want that. No, no, no, and uh but I tried
Speaker 1: to download jsaight call a while back, and it kept
Speaker 1: giving me these aras saying this, this file is full
Speaker 1: of viruses. It's not authorized, it's unlisted, it's on this
Speaker 1: and I'm like, shut up, Windows Defender, I don't care.
Speaker 1: But I could not get it installed. So I went
Speaker 1: over to my Linux box, and of course it works fine.
Speaker 1: So so I'm gonna have to figure out if if
Speaker 1: I can get it to work in Windows or if
Speaker 1: I just take my one of my one of my
Speaker 1: several Linux boxes that I'm actually in the middle of
Speaker 1: trying to put together like a cyber deck type thing
Speaker 1: to run it all off the internet. But it has
Speaker 1: JS eight and aprs and all this this stuff in it.
Speaker 1: So it's one of the one of the many projects
Speaker 1: I'm working on right now. But all of that to say,
Speaker 1: I've had some comments on your Windows eleven theory there, Frank,
Speaker 1: And I think you're right.
Speaker 4: It's Windows eleven is incorporated a lot of AI stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 4: from what I heard here say, because I haven't really
Speaker 4: seen it, and we'll really try to look into it,
Speaker 4: a lot of AI that they enabled patches so that
Speaker 4: you click serces and other things. It's constantly running your
Speaker 4: background that's eating up memory when you're not trying to
Speaker 4: utilize that functionality yet. And and and I think the
Speaker 4: incorporation of AI. And I know we're getting way off
Speaker 4: topic here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's all right, we'll get back.
Speaker 4: It's a detriment too when the running the operating system
Speaker 4: because that should be a secondary process and not the
Speaker 4: primary process of running your computer.
Speaker 1: And the last thing I'll say about this is my
Speaker 1: I bought a new laptop about a year ago. It
Speaker 1: was a refurbished Panasonic tough Book. I love the tough
Speaker 1: I've got a tough pad. I got a tough book
Speaker 1: now and it's great. But it came with Windows eleven.
Speaker 1: And guess what, it blew screens a lot too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you could be right about the driver saying when
Speaker 1: it comes to Windows eleven. Franc on Windows ten I
Speaker 1: don't think that's a thing. I think it's more hardware.
Speaker 4: But another I saw, which I do believe, over thirty
Speaker 4: percent of the new Windows eleven code is AI generated.
Speaker 4: And I've seen what AI generated code it can do,
Speaker 4: and it's doing, and it's absolutely C plus plus one
Speaker 4: on one code and it's not maintaining. Yeah, it's bad.
Speaker 4: It's bad.
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 2: Me and Mike's answer for this says Dune, Well, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: KAMRD Mike.
Speaker 1: Go, oh yeah yeah, get a Mac. Yeah yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: if everything.
Speaker 4: Worked, definitely thinking about going to Linux.
Speaker 1: If everything worked on Yeah, if everything worked on everything,
Speaker 1: I would have switched to Linux years ago, years now. OBS,
Speaker 1: which i'm running OBS right here works great on Linux.
Speaker 1: I could totally up chain upgrade my box here to
Speaker 1: Linux and it works great. The problem is my el
Speaker 1: Gato four port HDMI.
Speaker 4: Capture card, so I.
Speaker 1: Plug four cameras in HDMI capture to spit them out.
Speaker 1: That is not support. There's no drivers for that for
Speaker 1: Linux at all. And that's the one thing and keeping
Speaker 1: me from changing this box over the Linux.
Speaker 4: Do we want to go to some questions to get
Speaker 4: us back on top of it.
Speaker 1: Here yeah, give me, give me, give me a second,
Speaker 1: give me second, because one more thing is as far
Speaker 1: as the Mac thing goes. When link Express doesn't work
Speaker 1: on Mac and I know you've got radio mail, I
Speaker 1: think I think it's called radio radio mail or pat Yeah,
Speaker 1: and pat Win Link you have on on Linux too,
Speaker 1: and on Raspberry Pie. Uh, but they are way stripped
Speaker 1: down from what win link Express, which is an old,
Speaker 1: old program, but they're way stripped down from what win
Speaker 1: link Express does. So once they finally get win link
Speaker 1: Express updated or and other programs like that, I think
Speaker 1: Mac and Linux will be a little bit more viable.
Speaker 1: But I would totally go to Linux route if you
Speaker 1: re up to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did real quick on this. I did try
Speaker 2: and put crossover into my computer and get win link
Speaker 2: Express to work. I cannot make it work on an
Speaker 2: M for Max, so U Yeah, if somebody out there
Speaker 2: knows something about it and wants to help me, hey,
Speaker 2: I'll take it. But I have not figured out how
Speaker 2: to do it at this point. So too many hours
Speaker 2: I of a scroll anymore.
Speaker 1: Right, You're You're not the first person I've heard say that,
Speaker 1: So all right, all right, Frank, good call. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was just looking at you replying to those questions in there.
Speaker 1: So let's let's go there.
Speaker 4: I have two questions from Kilo Hotel six Whiskey, India
Speaker 4: and also Tim are asking about can you self spot
Speaker 4: or have a spot using PODA when you're at a
Speaker 4: park during the winter field day event?
Speaker 3: The yes, but and I know that's everyone's favorite answer.
Speaker 2: Hey it is, so are in our rules.
Speaker 3: We say you can spot yourself and others as long
Speaker 3: as it's VIA, as long as the amateur RF that
Speaker 3: you're using the spot leaves your site. So for instance,
Speaker 3: you can you know, you can spot using wind link
Speaker 3: and aprs in some cases. And again those those are
Speaker 3: not QSO's you're making. So we're not worried about simplex,
Speaker 3: We're not worried about staying off the internet. But that
Speaker 3: signal has to be on an amateur band and it
Speaker 3: has to leave your three hundred meters circle.
Speaker 4: So let me just do a one level deeper than
Speaker 4: if someone spots you on the potus site.
Speaker 2: Not using r F.
Speaker 4: But I'm just still calling seek you PoTA field Day
Speaker 4: or actually just seek you Phil Day. And I happen
Speaker 4: to be at a PoTA site and someone spots me
Speaker 4: on the site. Is that still okay because I didn't
Speaker 4: do it over our if someone else did it on
Speaker 4: my behalf and I didn't tell them to do it.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's that's completely out of your control. And
Speaker 3: we understand that. Uh yeah. If someone's now someone's participating
Speaker 3: actively in Winter field Day and they do that, I mean,
Speaker 3: we're not the we're not the winterfield Day Police. We're
Speaker 3: not gonna scrub you. We're not gonna scrub your lug.
Speaker 3: But do keep that in mind if you are, if
Speaker 3: you and someone else are both actively working each other
Speaker 3: on from potas sites, don't don't go and spot each
Speaker 3: other on the page. I will give you. I give
Speaker 3: you a hack that I've and I've tried this, so
Speaker 3: everyone who says it's against the rules, well then you can.
Speaker 3: You can be mad at me for it, but so
Speaker 3: you can. You can schedule your activations. If you're doing
Speaker 3: CW or digital, you schedule your activations on the PoTA
Speaker 3: website and the and you get automatically spotted. Your your
Speaker 3: RBN spots will go straight to the PODA spotting page
Speaker 3: right now. Now, you can schedule that activation ahead of
Speaker 3: Winter field Day, and then you have you have not
Speaker 3: sent anything except amateur RF to create those spots. What
Speaker 3: I will tell you though, as I did this for
Speaker 3: CW CW PODA hunters did not listen to my CW
Speaker 3: winterfield Day c CQ, and they were given me five
Speaker 3: nine nine state five nine nine state, and they did
Speaker 3: not have the Winter field Day exchange. So I made
Speaker 3: probably out of ten contacts, maybe three of them weren't
Speaker 3: busted because most of them didn't. So so be careful.
Speaker 3: It sounds it sounds like a slick hack until you
Speaker 3: do it and then you find out no one actually
Speaker 3: has the exchange information. Oh yeah, okay, and that becomes
Speaker 3: that becomes a problem. But technically that's technically correct, which
Speaker 3: is the best kind of correct you you can do that.
Speaker 4: So that answer also applies to any other spotting application
Speaker 4: or website out there. We're Radio League and other things.
Speaker 4: Don't spot yourself unless there's a way to do it
Speaker 4: via r F on the amateur radio bands exactly.
Speaker 3: And I always throw that that amateur RF thing in there,
Speaker 3: because when I said, when we used to say r F,
Speaker 3: people would be like, well, my cell phone is our
Speaker 3: F and and they're right. So we make sure we're
Speaker 3: it's amateur r F.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but your cell phone r F can't. It's you
Speaker 1: have to go.
Speaker 4: Through the amateur radio r F.
Speaker 1: You have to go through a repeat. You can't. You can't.
Speaker 1: Exactly if I could call your cell phone directly without
Speaker 1: going through the cell phone tower, then I think that
Speaker 1: should count, but you can't do that.
Speaker 3: Now we're we're really getting technical, no, I know.
Speaker 4: And if you are happened to be streaming your field
Speaker 4: day event, your frequency should not pop up in the stream.
Speaker 4: Is that correct?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds a whole lot like spotting yourself over
Speaker 3: the internet. I think that's they could be easily interpreted
Speaker 3: that way.
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, just just trying to clear all those out.
Speaker 4: And I think I did I have a question.
Speaker 2: Come up on this, like on another stream the other
Speaker 2: day where someone said, Hey, I was, you know, streaming
Speaker 2: during winterfield Day and obviously the frequency my radio was
Speaker 2: available whatever, and you know, you know, people were seeing
Speaker 2: that whatever, and it was like, you're you're not technically
Speaker 2: you know, trying to you know, spot yourself doing that.
Speaker 2: But I mean it is visible, but you know, unless
Speaker 2: you have a way to maybe block out your frequency
Speaker 2: on your radio. But you know, again, We're not the
Speaker 2: winterfield Day place. Wh're I got to come after you
Speaker 2: for it? But we know there's a lot of people
Speaker 2: who out there are making content and sharing those Winter
Speaker 2: field Day messages and so I mean, it's just.
Speaker 4: I can show your freak.
Speaker 2: Let's see.
Speaker 4: You can block it out. You cannot share that window,
Speaker 4: not share your screen. You just say hey, I'm running
Speaker 4: field Day and this is what we're doing, and walk
Speaker 4: around and help promote the event, but just don't advertise
Speaker 4: what frequency you're on. Other than that, you're golden Talking
Speaker 4: about modes free DV Is that a valid mode? Come
Speaker 4: from Dawn and five SKT.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it absolutely is. It is a phone mode though
Speaker 3: it is a it's a digital codec, but it's it's voice,
Speaker 3: so we categorize it as phone. Apparently they've updated their
Speaker 3: codec recently and it's much better in noise. I plan
Speaker 3: on trying it out for for winterfield Day.
Speaker 4: Awesome.
Speaker 2: Mhm. There's one. I'm not playing it yet. I'm very
Speaker 2: interested in.
Speaker 1: But they had a demo of it at a local
Speaker 1: hand fest to hear a couple of years ago and
Speaker 1: it looked really cool. But I haven't actually done it
Speaker 1: myself either.
Speaker 2: Apparently it's gotten there in the last six months, and yeah,
Speaker 2: they just recently, uh did a another update to it
Speaker 2: that's probably gotten even a little bit better. So I've
Speaker 2: seen one or two people on YouTube talking about it,
Speaker 2: and I think Amshak TV has an upcoming episode we're
Speaker 2: gonna be talk about a little bit more and doing
Speaker 2: some demos that would good. Yeah. Cool.
Speaker 4: So one last question here on mess task taking it again.
Speaker 4: This is from don Do you have to enter your
Speaker 4: message using simplex on this tastic on the device? Or
Speaker 4: is bluetooth to device acceptable?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So so you can. You can bluetooth to the device.
Speaker 3: That's totally fine. I mean that's essentially to me, that's
Speaker 3: the same as I don't know, if you had a
Speaker 3: bluetooth microphone on your on your radio, Okay, that that
Speaker 3: kind of stuff is totally fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can. You can bluetooth. You can bluetooth remote
Speaker 1: control like an Icy seven oh five from a computer
Speaker 1: or laptop. So yeah, yeah, that makes sense, that makes sense.
Speaker 4: All right, that's kind of all I have for now,
Speaker 4: So Jason, I turned it back to you.
Speaker 1: All right, y gray Man PoTA. They were talking about
Speaker 1: you earlier. Tim, I don't know if you heard that
Speaker 1: or not, I don't know if you were in there,
Speaker 1: but something about you bringing up a topic last year
Speaker 1: that they have implemented now. So I forget what it
Speaker 1: was because I'm trying to read and listen at the
Speaker 1: same time. But Mike, what was that that you said about?
Speaker 1: Yeah question last year?
Speaker 3: He asked about using meshtastic wind link and everything for
Speaker 3: a q SO points, And there's there's now a statement
Speaker 3: in the rules that it's basically explains, yeah, you can.
Speaker 3: You can do APRS, fantastic win link, all those sort
Speaker 3: of normally networked things. Arden if you wanted to, you
Speaker 3: just have to bring him down to one radio to another,
Speaker 3: just like you'd be making any other contact.
Speaker 1: Right, good clarifies it there, Okay, sweet, Well, let's let's
Speaker 1: take a look at Charles's uh oh, you said you
Speaker 1: might have a screenshare also, like if you want to
Speaker 1: do that. I was just going to show the website.
Speaker 2: I was going to say, I wanted to kind of
Speaker 2: bring up that, you know, winterfield Days just literally it's
Speaker 2: it's a week and a half from this coming weekend
Speaker 2: and it's January twenty fourth and twenty fifth, So I
Speaker 2: mean we got basically this weekend, all of next week
Speaker 2: and then there'll be that falling weekend. So it's it's
Speaker 2: right around the corner. It's you know, definitely within two
Speaker 2: weeks of us here and you know we're all looking
Speaker 2: forward to it. We're still wrapping up a few things,
Speaker 2: but like the Winterfield Day Bolton that should be produced
Speaker 2: to tonight or tomorrow. Yet it's out the door hopefully,
Speaker 2: so but you know, we're still doing the you know,
Speaker 2: it'll start at we look at my notes here real quick,
Speaker 2: so it starts at four pm, I'm sorry, eleven am
Speaker 2: Eastern on Saturday and ends at four fifty nine pm
Speaker 2: on Sunday. So still doing that thirty hour timeframe as
Speaker 2: we did last year as well, so give people on
Speaker 2: these coasts a little bit more time during the day,
Speaker 2: especially if they're gonna be operating in a park that
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of parks we found that closed
Speaker 2: out East, they closed like four pm and during the day,
Speaker 2: and you know, at that time initially was Winterfield Day
Speaker 2: was starting at two pm Eastern, and so it gave
Speaker 2: them very little time to operate in a park if
Speaker 2: they're going to go out and do that. And so
Speaker 2: we opened up that window a little bit longer during
Speaker 2: the day on Saturday, which makes it starting a little
Speaker 2: early for those maybe people over on the West coast
Speaker 2: at seven am. But that's still good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that yeah, yeah, that's that's good. Okay good.
Speaker 2: I don't know what we got for sites Racher, Dad
Speaker 2: and I've been on this site specifically to see a
Speaker 2: little farther down, scroll up a little bit more was
Speaker 2: to say six hund and ten raichter. Now, so yeah,
Speaker 2: we've had about one hundred raster in the last probably too.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, okay, so I don't think we've registered,
Speaker 1: have we But we're waiting on we're waiting on a
Speaker 1: Robert I gotta I think Digital Rancher still in the chat.
Speaker 1: I got to get with you and sign some paperwork.
Speaker 1: I think we're waiting on our call sign. So we
Speaker 1: we we took over a club that was expired and
Speaker 1: we're trying to get the call sign back active again.
Speaker 1: All nice, so be kind of a kind of looking
Speaker 1: forward to that. But okay, so you got.
Speaker 2: Let's let's talk about the people going on real quick
Speaker 2: before we go to the store. Uh so we want
Speaker 2: people to go out into the winterfield day site and
Speaker 2: race to their site, and you can do that right
Speaker 2: from that purple button the very top of the page there,
Speaker 2: and you know, you know, race you your location. And
Speaker 2: the reason being is you may have a new technician
Speaker 2: or somebody else nearby that you know, maybe doesn't belong
Speaker 2: to a club or something. They want to go visit
Speaker 2: a winterfield Day site. They want to go check it out,
Speaker 2: they want to see what it is. Maybe they're new
Speaker 2: to amateur radio, and it gives them a good opportunity
Speaker 2: to find something that may nearby that you know, lets
Speaker 2: them come by and visit and maybe even operate the
Speaker 2: radio for a little bit. And even myself, it's like
Speaker 2: one of those things that if I know there's a
Speaker 2: site nearby that where I'm living or where i'm at is,
Speaker 2: I'll go visit them and say hey, I know when
Speaker 2: a field a price from here, you know, just say
Speaker 2: hi and whatever. It's always fun to do that too,
Speaker 2: but it kind of gives people again an opportunity to
Speaker 2: go visit something nearby to them, and it's kind of
Speaker 2: cool to see, you know, how many stations are out
Speaker 2: there actually people are race sting four Winner field Day
Speaker 2: we had like twelve or thirteen hundred last year, so
Speaker 2: we had a lot of ways to go. We had
Speaker 2: a lot of sites, Richard, and so we're really down.
Speaker 2: But I think we'll see that never really start to
Speaker 2: jump in the next two weeks here, and we hope
Speaker 2: that it will. But yeah, if you haven't gone out
Speaker 2: Richard yet, it's pretty simple. You need an email address,
Speaker 2: your name, your call sign, what category you're clever, yourself
Speaker 2: are going to be operating. You can choose whether it's
Speaker 2: a public a public or private site, and then all
Speaker 2: you do is have your latitude and longitude and you
Speaker 2: know kind of give the location of where you're going
Speaker 2: to be and you can find that. We give instructions
Speaker 2: there how to do that from Google and it's a
Speaker 2: really simple thing how to go doing that, and there's
Speaker 2: some information there are more questions if you need If
Speaker 2: you have problems, let us know. We'll be glad to
Speaker 2: help out. We've had a little bit of problem with
Speaker 2: you get at getting the confirmation email. Mike. Is that
Speaker 2: up and working now? It keeps going back and forth, so.
Speaker 3: So our help desk is fully functional. It okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: you can you can send an email able to helped
Speaker 3: desk at winterfield Day dot com. You will you will
Speaker 3: get a personalized response from from me or someone else
Speaker 3: on the team and uh and we will not close
Speaker 3: that ticket until you confirm that you're answer your question
Speaker 3: is answered.
Speaker 2: No. But I'm saying when they go to Racher for
Speaker 2: their Winter field Day site, is that there are they
Speaker 2: still in those confirmation emails if they do?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry yeah, so uh, I I don't know
Speaker 3: if if Andrew is fixed to that yet and so
Speaker 3: basically what I've been doing. Yeah, and so basically anyone
Speaker 3: who luckily I mentioned the helped desk, anyone who doesn't
Speaker 3: get that registration email or has to change anything, you
Speaker 3: can reach out to our help desk and well we
Speaker 3: because we can just log into the website and change it.
Speaker 3: But it is, it is a problem we're working through
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 1: Where where where's the help desk link from here?
Speaker 2: Any of the If you go on the main page,
Speaker 2: there's a little envelope at the very top that will
Speaker 2: take you to uh to there, Okay, you can hit
Speaker 2: you can hit contact us on that gotcha that will
Speaker 2: also direct that will do a direct email to us.
Speaker 2: And there's one other place I think towards the bottom.
Speaker 2: That will also allow you to go connect to us
Speaker 2: as well, so several different locations there there we go,
Speaker 2: there's the blip right there right.
Speaker 1: There, Okay, yep, yeah. And also from the top of
Speaker 1: because every time we are every time we're on an
Speaker 1: interview and someone on the channel and talk about a
Speaker 1: new discord server, there's a link to their discord server
Speaker 1: right here, which you've clicked O. This is what it
Speaker 1: looks like right here. I've been on this discord server
Speaker 1: for a long time. So if you guys are interested
Speaker 1: in discord, winterfield Day has an actual discord six hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty two members one hundred and sixty four online
Speaker 1: right now. But you just get that from going to
Speaker 1: this discord symbol at the very top.
Speaker 2: That's a very active discord with a lot of good
Speaker 2: information on there. We share a lot of information out
Speaker 2: that Winter field Day Bolton schedule will be coming out
Speaker 2: via like Facebook, all of our social media. It will
Speaker 2: be come out on the discord channel when that comes
Speaker 2: out very soon here, so that will give you the
Speaker 2: schedule and the and the different bands that the winner
Speaker 2: field Day message and modes that the Winter field Day
Speaker 2: Message Bolton will be uh broadcasted on so we're certainly
Speaker 2: looking forward to that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Good, Those those are where our best conversations happened. We
Speaker 3: had a really long form discussion about should we include
Speaker 3: repeater contacts and future iterations Winterfield Day in our discord
Speaker 3: and there's a my my views on it had have
Speaker 3: changed a couple of times because of the input of
Speaker 3: our folks on discord.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, and that's something that's good to hear. That's
Speaker 2: one thing good to know also is that you know,
Speaker 2: based on input that we get through Discord, based on
Speaker 2: on the saltbox comments that you get when you submit
Speaker 2: your log, and all those different things are always taken
Speaker 2: into account, and we look at each and every one
Speaker 2: of those messages and consider them and and and you know,
Speaker 2: look at changes from making it better and improved each
Speaker 2: and every year. So we we do welcome those messages
Speaker 2: and things do change based on that, so you know,
Speaker 2: we you know, it's good that people are probabing the
Speaker 2: type of input and and you know we we do
Speaker 2: listen and we do receive.
Speaker 3: Those so.
Speaker 1: Good.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a very active Discord server. I pop
Speaker 1: in there every now and then, so it's it's good
Speaker 1: to have something like that. It's kind of like a
Speaker 1: direct contact to the people in charge and are talking
Speaker 1: about the rules and nuances and all that kind of
Speaker 1: good stuff. So it's a good place to be and.
Speaker 2: This and you started to pull up our story man
Speaker 2: and go as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so, uh, in fact, I started a mystery
Speaker 1: box service, you know. I I should have thought about
Speaker 1: this last month or something. I started a mystery box
Speaker 1: subscription service earlier last year, and uh, my box is
Speaker 1: renewed every sixty days, and so they just renewed like
Speaker 1: five days ago for January. I should have hit you
Speaker 1: guys up and put some Winter field Day stuff in
Speaker 1: the box that was going to go out this month,
Speaker 1: but I didn't think about it. So yeah, maybe extra
Speaker 1: week we have some swag. We'll definitely can that'd be great.
Speaker 1: That'd be great.
Speaker 2: I've been thinking about side free little boxes. You look
Speaker 2: like a really good distory boxes to come through things.
Speaker 1: So I'm trying. Yeah, I'm trying to do it. Take
Speaker 1: a lot of feedback from people on the list, and
Speaker 1: I've contacted probably two dozen different vendors and most of
Speaker 1: them want to work with me. So that's it's I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing where it goes.
Speaker 4: What is on the mystery box, the most insane item
Speaker 4: that you put in there for someone.
Speaker 1: I haven't really put anything quite insane in there yet.
Speaker 1: I haven't. Yeah, I haven't really put anything kind of
Speaker 1: crazy in there yet.
Speaker 4: I've been trying to make it too or no.
Speaker 1: There. This is a subscription service, so all the boxes
Speaker 1: are the same. There's no surprise boxes. I've done surprise
Speaker 1: boxes like that in the past, but that's not what this. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: not a flex frank so to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So but you know Antenna's uh can actors several different
Speaker 1: Antennas actually VHF U h f HF Antennas had a
Speaker 1: biowino battery in the one last month. So yeah, some
Speaker 1: good stuff. Yeah yeah, probably start to do some mestastic
Speaker 1: stuff for too long.
Speaker 2: In winterfield Day store, which is really neat for us.
Speaker 2: This year, we've got a brand new we call it
Speaker 2: image or our logo for winterfield Day and we put
Speaker 2: on those shirts and our apparel there and so those
Speaker 2: a bear here, Yeah, well not just the bear. Not
Speaker 2: sure you know, to show your screen, bring up the store.
Speaker 1: Hold on a second.
Speaker 2: So in our store we have a key shirt that
Speaker 2: has the shop here right, yeah, the shop yep. So
Speaker 2: that has our new image on it for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: And oh yeah, he's sitting at a park bench table.
Speaker 2: With instead of being a year and he's actually sitting
Speaker 2: a partner this bart park bench operating you know, winter
Speaker 2: field Day. So that was our image this year. Pretty simple,
Speaker 2: pretty easy.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not even showing that screen. I'm my apologies. Okay,
Speaker 1: here here's what we're talking about. Sorry, guys, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at it over here and I was like, oh, it's
Speaker 1: on the wrong one. Yeah, he's talking about this right here.
Speaker 2: So it's a really cool image I think overall. And
Speaker 2: so we'll change this year for a year after year
Speaker 2: going forward. And so this is our first year doing
Speaker 2: T shirts. But you know, you can get these in
Speaker 2: different colors. You can see their white, black, you know, ye, gray, blue,
Speaker 2: pink red, And so I picked those shirts up and
Speaker 2: actually a couple people are going, well, you know, minus
Speaker 2: the tag on them, you know, they're actually pretty decent shirts.
Speaker 2: And I picked the one up and I think they
Speaker 2: are really nice shirts this year. So I'm really impressed
Speaker 2: by it. And it turned out really well overall, so
Speaker 2: I end up going and getting one myself and whatnot.
Speaker 2: But the we've had a lot of orders come through,
Speaker 2: which I've been very impressed with. A lot of people
Speaker 2: are going through and picking up a lot of the
Speaker 2: Winter field Day swag that we have in the store.
Speaker 2: But next year it will be our twentieth year for
Speaker 2: Winter field Day. It started two thousand and seven, we'll
Speaker 2: go into twenty twenty seven, so we'll have a very
Speaker 2: special image just for twenty twenty seven next year that
Speaker 2: people are going to want to go out and do,
Speaker 2: and it will be very different from there what this
Speaker 2: one is here. So these are you know, shirts and
Speaker 2: all the other swag that you get within the store
Speaker 2: is really truly supporting our organization. We don't have any
Speaker 2: other major sponsors. It is completely one hundred percent donor
Speaker 2: funded and we you know, are just getting a few
Speaker 2: dollars from each of these items to help with our
Speaker 2: costs that we have for you know, hosting a website
Speaker 2: and doing things like that that we have to have
Speaker 2: and paying for our we have you know, monthly Zoom
Speaker 2: meetings and stuff that go on, so we have to
Speaker 2: pay for a Zoom license and those things just happen,
Speaker 2: but it's part of doing business. So we do have
Speaker 2: some back end costs that we have to cover, and
Speaker 2: you know, this helps cover some of those things. And
Speaker 2: a lot of people are making donations too. You know,
Speaker 2: we had a donation earlier today for fifty bucks to
Speaker 2: come in. I thought that was cool. But you know,
Speaker 2: if we put if you get give us the hundred
Speaker 2: dollars and more, you actually put your name down on
Speaker 2: the bottom as kind of a club or individual sponsor
Speaker 2: as the hundred dollars comes comes in for those, and
Speaker 2: you'll find them on our front page there as well
Speaker 2: of our winterfield Day site under no Nations but I'm
Speaker 2: sorry at the very bottom of the page. But anyway,
Speaker 2: on our home page, but on the homepage, but in
Speaker 2: the store itself there is you can see there's beanies
Speaker 2: and cups and mugs and sweatshirts and long sleeved T shirts.
Speaker 2: We even have the diet cut stickers and so we
Speaker 2: have a lot of other things as well that you
Speaker 2: can certainly go out and look at and getting.
Speaker 4: I like that garded flag there first. Well, second one,
Speaker 4: I have a tank radio flag that I put out
Speaker 4: when we're camping.
Speaker 1: When you don't leave it right, Yeah, your screen went black.
Speaker 4: I don't know what happened there there it is. That's
Speaker 4: an awesome flag, man. Yeah, put that out there when
Speaker 4: you're a potally.
Speaker 2: Right. So a lot of people are buying them. It's
Speaker 2: been very popular item for sure. And one of the
Speaker 2: things that we had people say, hey, can we get
Speaker 2: a flag of some sorry, So I decided to go
Speaker 2: with the garden flag and also do like the other
Speaker 2: type of flag you can put up on a mask.
Speaker 2: That's one of the other items there. Yeah, and so yeah,
Speaker 2: it's been very popular items to get. So it's been really.
Speaker 4: Cool the mass as well.
Speaker 1: I don't know is that one on here?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Go back, just one it should be.
Speaker 1: M I'm trying to click on back, hold on second. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm having trouble with my there it.
Speaker 4: Is Windows eleven. We'll just say Windows eleven.
Speaker 1: Well I'm not on Windows eleven. I'm on Windows ten.
Speaker 4: Keep its head right there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole flag.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, oh I like that. I like that.
Speaker 1: I like that too. That's good.
Speaker 4: Are you selling those also at when you're out at
Speaker 4: various events and cash or.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys going to you're gonna have a table
Speaker 1: at Ham Cash.
Speaker 2: We don't I'm not probably not able to get through
Speaker 2: this year or so I don't really have any we
Speaker 2: don't have any other board members that are really available
Speaker 2: to go, so we don't really have another option for
Speaker 2: somebody to go. But yeah, you can find an official
Speaker 2: merchandise that there winter Field that bring it fight up
Speaker 2: me And like I said, it's been really quality gear guys.
Speaker 2: So it's been really really more impressive than I thought
Speaker 2: it would be, except that's gonna try to be a little cheap,
Speaker 2: but like the shirts and stuff have been really really
Speaker 2: nice and we've had a lot of good compments on it.
Speaker 2: A lot of people have liked them as well, which
Speaker 2: is really cool. So I hope that people who will
Speaker 2: consider going out and doing that. And again it's a
Speaker 2: small purchase towards the small part of the purchase, like
Speaker 2: I'm talking about, like three to four bucks kind of
Speaker 2: goes back towards the Winterfield Day organization. The rest is
Speaker 2: actually going for the products and shipping and et cetera.
Speaker 2: So but you know, we're making a few dollars, but
Speaker 2: we're not getting rich off by any means.
Speaker 4: So keep the servers up right, that's right.
Speaker 2: Keep we you know, obviously all the logs, everything that
Speaker 2: we do, we have a server. You know, got to
Speaker 2: be able to pay for that type of stuff along
Speaker 2: the way, so you know, sure exactly a w S
Speaker 2: doesn't ship free.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's a There doesn't seem to be a
Speaker 1: way to go back to the main page from the
Speaker 1: shot once you're in the print.
Speaker 2: I think it No, I think it actually takes you
Speaker 2: to the yeah, stoy and like you, I think you're
Speaker 2: stuck in there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're kind of stuck in
Speaker 1: that you get to type it in again. So all right,
Speaker 1: well good, well, I'm looking forward to it. It's going
Speaker 1: to be into fun time. I always have fun at
Speaker 1: winterfield Day and uh we it's it's fun getting together
Speaker 1: with friends for field Day and winterfield Day. And I
Speaker 1: like winterfield Day when the when the weather's not too
Speaker 1: crazy and I think we're supposed to have good weather
Speaker 1: this this year or so, I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. This is other couple of really quick things.
Speaker 2: We have a couple go ahead. I'll call it notable changes.
Speaker 2: We've got a few objectives we added for the year,
Speaker 2: one of them being alternative power. And then pay attention to,
Speaker 2: like like if you're indoors, you know, having your your
Speaker 2: lap top and h back requirements. If you go and
Speaker 2: read our rules on our page, you'll see those things
Speaker 2: kind of change a little bit. But as long as
Speaker 2: you're you're lighting an HVAC for an indoor setting is
Speaker 2: on a commercial power, you're fine. I think you have
Speaker 2: to actually click into the rules. That's that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where that's where I'm at right now.
Speaker 2: As rules, Well, no, scrub the page and scroll up
Speaker 2: a little bit.
Speaker 1: That's the top of their age.
Speaker 2: Scroll down then I'm sorry right there where it says
Speaker 2: I would read, but it's a download the papble of
Speaker 2: the winterfield Day Rules by clicking here, and so these
Speaker 2: are that that's just kind of a call. First page
Speaker 2: you were seeing was actually just a summary where this
Speaker 2: actually takes you into more of the winterfield Day packet
Speaker 2: and everything's explained a little bit more in depth and detail,
Speaker 2: and so you'll see where the information is there. But uh, yeah,
Speaker 2: we've got those quick objective change for that, and then
Speaker 2: we also had an additional twelve band objective was added,
Speaker 2: and so you know, I think something another challenge for
Speaker 2: people to be to look at. So your total point
Speaker 2: multiplier this year is up to thirty three points, so
Speaker 2: there's quite a bit there that you could have an
Speaker 2: option to really go through and look at increasing your
Speaker 2: q cell points overall.
Speaker 4: I'm curious what did you change about the HVAC. Do
Speaker 4: you allow a commercial HVAC system or does it have
Speaker 4: to be on Yeah, likes.
Speaker 3: And HVAC are no longer required to be on emergency
Speaker 3: power or alternative power. But all of your laptops, even
Speaker 3: if they're logging only are.
Speaker 4: And that does and if you're running a logging server
Speaker 4: that a one computer is just set up as the
Speaker 4: logger that you're not logging at a station, is that
Speaker 4: okay to be on commercial or does that.
Speaker 2: Also have to be on be on back backup power? Okay? Everything, Yeah, everything.
Speaker 3: Involved with the logging, whether it's you know, like you've
Speaker 3: done that too, where of a Wi Fi router that
Speaker 3: ties all the logging servers to logging states into the
Speaker 3: server that should be on emergency power as well.
Speaker 4: Okay, so everything involved in logging, the server, the Wi
Speaker 4: Fi and all the computers of the emergency power. And
Speaker 4: then then then then you can sit inside a nice
Speaker 4: warm building that has power.
Speaker 1: What we did last year, Oh man, it.
Speaker 4: Works that we didn't excuse me. Summer field Day also
Speaker 4: like that sitting inside a building because Texas is brutal
Speaker 4: with the extremes.
Speaker 2: It's a sports rare for sure. I'm during I'm sure
Speaker 2: during the summer. The other thing is, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: just people note as we do ask for everyone to
Speaker 2: play on an equal level playing field being a hundred watts,
Speaker 2: and we still continue to go down that road as
Speaker 2: well and keeping everything the same. So whether you're home, indoors, mobile, outdoors,
Speaker 2: that you know, your your your your peaking blow of
Speaker 2: power is a hundred watts.
Speaker 4: So is there a radius like summerfield to day you
Speaker 4: have to be within a thousand feet of all the
Speaker 4: other stations.
Speaker 2: That's exactly. You have three hundred meters or one thousand feet. Yep,
Speaker 2: We're exactly the same as Summer Field Day in that regards.
Speaker 4: So I can't log the contacts. I do want a
Speaker 4: boat for our club, that's correct.
Speaker 1: Ah, you have a boat you're going to bring down
Speaker 1: the Gallaston.
Speaker 4: Frank, No, I'll be I'll be on a boat.
Speaker 1: You on on your on the cruise ship.
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, So the other thing is, though, I think
Speaker 2: we change this, Miket and maybe correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: But so, if you operate in a park on Saturday
Speaker 2: and you wanted to go operate a different park on Sunday,
Speaker 2: your location can change for Winter field Day. You don't
Speaker 2: have to remain inside that same thousand foot circle.
Speaker 3: Whoa you were saying, Frank, Yeah, so as your your
Speaker 3: three hundred meters circle moves with you.
Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah you can.
Speaker 3: You can't actually run Winter field Day. I guess that'd
Speaker 3: be maritime.
Speaker 4: Mogul, But no, I was going was with the k
Speaker 4: K five tr station. They're going to be running, and
Speaker 4: I can't do it from a separate location.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I did. Okay, that's that is what I thought.
Speaker 4: You answer the question correct.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But in case some people are wondering, you can't
Speaker 2: move your location during the summerfield Day or during winterfield Day.
Speaker 2: But uh, you know, it does have to remain within
Speaker 2: the same section. So if you're in South Texas, you're
Speaker 2: gonna remain in South Texas. If you're in North Florida,
Speaker 2: or remain in North Florida, you can't go to you know, uh, Louisiana.
Speaker 2: After that or something, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 2: as long as you remain the same section, you're you're
Speaker 2: fine and long. And here's the other thing A lot
Speaker 2: of people ask questions about Sometimes there are actually two things.
Speaker 2: So if you had two stations set up indoors, one
Speaker 2: person was outdoors in a tent, and then other person
Speaker 2: was maybe out in an r V, and you're at
Speaker 2: some camping site or some other building side of some sort,
Speaker 2: and some person want to be outdoors and the other
Speaker 2: person was, you know, in an RV. So you can
Speaker 2: have mobile and you can have outdoors, and you'd have
Speaker 2: technically have indoors all at the same location. Right, So uh,
Speaker 2: take the station with the majority of those and apply it.
Speaker 2: Uh so they're all four, it would be like four
Speaker 2: indoor stations working together. Uh so you kind of make
Speaker 2: that glomber avoid it is. So a lot of people
Speaker 2: ask questions about that. And then the other thing would
Speaker 2: be that if you're working, you know, and you have
Speaker 2: to change for some reason, I don't know what. Let's
Speaker 2: say you're you're in Minnesota and uh, you're working outdoors
Speaker 2: and the weather got to be really bad and you
Speaker 2: had to go indoors somehow, don't don't change your class
Speaker 2: and category from one indoors or one outdoors to one indoors.
Speaker 2: You're gonna keep it still one in outdoors the whole time.
Speaker 2: And we you know those things happen and change and
Speaker 2: that you know, it goes. It is what it is.
Speaker 2: But you know that way, it's gonna screw up your
Speaker 2: log for everybody else, and it's gonna, you know, it's
Speaker 2: gonna mess it up for whoever else is kind of
Speaker 2: did you along the rest of it because you're gonna
Speaker 2: you're gonna submit it for it one indoors and it's like,
Speaker 2: well you're really one outdoors about half of it. So
Speaker 2: if you're one indoors and just stay one indoors, if
Speaker 2: you're one outdoors, to stay one outdoors, you know, or
Speaker 2: whatever your number classic category has. But what route even
Speaker 2: though it might right change right, keep it.
Speaker 1: The same, Yeah, don't change it once you start, keep
Speaker 1: with it.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: So I know a lot of people like to run
Speaker 4: mobile in their car. So as long as their group
Speaker 4: or club is all within the vehicle or a thousand
Speaker 4: foot radius of each other, they could run down the
Speaker 4: freeway and just be calling CQ on the freeway as
Speaker 4: there changing parks. So they start at park A, activate
Speaker 4: park A and then the whole group packs up and
Speaker 4: as their group going down the road, several them was
Speaker 4: still a calling CQ because they can operate in their
Speaker 4: vehicle that is also allowed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll call it caravan mobile.
Speaker 4: Caravan mobile, yes, oh, spawn something new, a little bit,
Speaker 4: a little bit, a little bit of technically technical.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know they stretching out.
Speaker 4: There's people out there that do mobile within the vehicle
Speaker 4: and as they're down the freeway.
Speaker 1: Is there a mobile designation, Jason, we need there is
Speaker 1: a mobile. Yeah, there's indoor, outdoor, home and mobile, right, yes, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2: And I don't recall the answer to this mic. So,
Speaker 2: I like, sometimes we have truckers and there's somebody who's
Speaker 2: running an HS running mobile and they could literally go
Speaker 2: from uh, you know, Louisiana to you know, uh you
Speaker 2: know Florida and Georgia and change sections. Do you remember
Speaker 2: how we were handling that or what we I can't
Speaker 2: remember what the discussion around that's been.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The challenge there is your your exchange can't change
Speaker 3: so and and the problem is if you so from
Speaker 3: our perspective, if you send us a log has a
Speaker 3: hundred contacts, and it all says, uh, one mobile Alabama.
Speaker 3: We don't have a problem with that. But if you're
Speaker 3: saying one mobile Alabama and you're now in Missouri because
Speaker 3: you're a trucker, you're you're it's it's really between you
Speaker 3: and the people you're making contact with at that point.
Speaker 3: But we I don't have a problem with it.
Speaker 1: Oh gotcha. That makes sense. Still the best to keep
Speaker 1: it the same as whatever you begin with. Just stick
Speaker 1: with that through the whole plans.
Speaker 2: Yep. I mean it's really tough if your mobile like that. Yeah. Again,
Speaker 2: mobile can be trailer, r V car, uh yeah, plane boat,
Speaker 2: you know, if it moves. Actually, here's the here's one
Speaker 2: from the question. The other day, we were going to
Speaker 2: be in a rail car. It's okay, that's cool. Is
Speaker 2: that inside a museum? I was like, uh no, it's outside.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, Uh does it move? Yeah? They
Speaker 2: picked up and moved it from one location in this
Speaker 2: in this rail area to another lot last year as
Speaker 2: it was on wheels. Yep. It's not fixedly fixture, it's
Speaker 2: not screwed down or like disabled. Nope, it can be
Speaker 2: picked up moved. It's like it's mobile then, so you're
Speaker 2: gonna be like four indoor or for mobile then as
Speaker 2: a station.
Speaker 3: So the big stipulation is it has to become mobile
Speaker 3: during the event. So if you're if you're double wide,
Speaker 3: takes more than thirty hours to become mobile? Should I
Speaker 3: say that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And probably a question you got right, it is.
Speaker 3: It sounds like a joke, but it's like, well, my
Speaker 3: my double white has wheels. Sure, but if you can,
Speaker 3: if you can contact a rig and get it on
Speaker 3: wheels and get it mobile within thirty eight hours, then
Speaker 3: we can have that conversation.
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, planning on talking a little bit about
Speaker 4: log submissions.
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, So we we accept cabrillo and ADIF and
Speaker 3: we so I have we have an ad F standard
Speaker 3: that we have published on our socials. It didn't make
Speaker 3: get into our rules. So if you're only contact with
Speaker 3: us is to the website, we don't have it there.
Speaker 3: But we do have the cabrillo example in our rules.
Speaker 3: So if you're doing a cabrilla submission, if it looks
Speaker 3: different than what you see in our rule packet, reach
Speaker 3: out to us. Let us help you fix it. Where
Speaker 3: you try to submit it and if you're in any
Speaker 3: of our socials, the eight IF example is there. But
Speaker 3: if you're using N one mm in three FJP World
Speaker 3: Radio League, we're partners with World Radio League. They're great
Speaker 3: stuff for US. HAM two K, Polo Sebastian at Ham
Speaker 3: two k's is a great partner of ours. All of
Speaker 3: those We have worked with them to make sure all
Speaker 3: of those spit out a correct cabrillo and ADIF.
Speaker 1: Good.
Speaker 2: I want to make sure I note this on air
Speaker 2: and everybody knows this. You can thank mister Mike Kelley
Speaker 2: himself directly for reaching out to all those vendors and
Speaker 2: also doing all the testing to make sure those cabrillo
Speaker 2: and ADF formats are exactly correct. Mike has put a
Speaker 2: ton of work behind the scenes on this to make
Speaker 2: sure those are giving us the correct information. And I
Speaker 2: just want to give a big shout out to Mike
Speaker 2: for all that work. He's really done in great job
Speaker 2: with this this year and make sure those are a
Speaker 2: call compliant with our with with the exports, and it's
Speaker 2: making it easier for our back end for all those
Speaker 2: log submissions to happen. So yeah, congratulations and a great
Speaker 2: job to Mike for all that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 3: The biggest burden was installing software that I always like
Speaker 3: the joke that some logging software still has a Windows
Speaker 3: three to one design language in it. Yeah, but but
Speaker 3: it's it's but they those those developers also are more
Speaker 3: than happy to update, but they have to hear from us.
Speaker 1: Good. I think we used Winner Radio World Radio League
Speaker 1: last year. I think that's what we use.
Speaker 4: No, we tried, tried it, but not all of us
Speaker 4: had the right serial to link it together.
Speaker 1: I think that, Well, you don't have to. It's all online.
Speaker 1: It's all online, so yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to log in, so you just have to use
Speaker 2: Jason hamreydo two point zero is the user name of
Speaker 2: password to log in, and uh, then you know everybody
Speaker 2: logs in this different computer using his using name of password, right,
Speaker 2: and then everybody lugs into that as long as Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: I guess if you're using a Mac, you can use
Speaker 2: it offline. If you're using it h with if you
Speaker 2: don't have a Mac, then you have to use it
Speaker 2: online and you have to have internet access to be
Speaker 2: able to do that at this point. So, uh, their
Speaker 2: beta is supposedly going to be out before winter Field
Speaker 2: Day for doing an actual offline program, a logging program.
Speaker 2: But there again, it's going to be in a beta version.
Speaker 2: It won't be complete and completely trusted yet at that point.
Speaker 1: So they've been working on that for a long time.
Speaker 2: Yes they have.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think mentioned World Radio League. Is that
Speaker 4: a supportive platform?
Speaker 1: Yes, is Yeah, that's what he was just talking about.
Speaker 2: So the cool thing about World Radio League for Tim,
Speaker 2: the world thing about cool butt World World Rate League
Speaker 2: is they actually have kind of their online leader board
Speaker 2: and you can see everybody who's logged in and participating
Speaker 2: and who's got the most contacts, and where everybody's at
Speaker 2: and and their in their stats, uh during during the event,
Speaker 2: and so uh they had over how did people participate
Speaker 2: last year? The last time I checked it, probably a
Speaker 2: little over a week ago, they had ninety eight people
Speaker 2: signed up and enrolled for for their World Radio League leaderboard,
Speaker 2: and uh, I'm sure there's even more richter now for it.
Speaker 2: So it's an absolute free service to use, and uh,
Speaker 2: they've been very good about all this, and they're they're
Speaker 2: promoting it heavily for us as well, which is cool.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I created a k N five T
Speaker 1: r log in for World Radio League last year when
Speaker 1: we were in Dangerfield State Park.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure we've got that, so I'll i'll look into.
Speaker 2: Like they could go yeah, well, I mean they've gone
Speaker 2: to the point where they're even integrating in one mm
Speaker 2: and N three e f jps into their software, so
Speaker 2: they're willing to play with others and they're doing a
Speaker 2: great job at it.
Speaker 1: They've they integrated w s j t X a long
Speaker 1: time ago, so you can yes, auto log with SO
Speaker 1: and qr Z yep, yep, yeah, all right, I like
Speaker 1: I like log They're one of my favorite logging softwares.
Speaker 4: Right now, Uh gray Man, the slow man Tim here
Speaker 4: is asking how can you log fantastic contacts?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you'd essentially pick any so our logger, our
Speaker 3: log processor, doesn't care what the specific mode is. It's
Speaker 3: it's all going to get funneled into digital CW or phone.
Speaker 3: So get your logger of choice listed is. You can
Speaker 3: listen to PSK thirty one. It's a it's a digital
Speaker 3: contact PSK thirty one thirty three centimeters exchange your exchange,
Speaker 3: their exchange, your call, their call.
Speaker 1: Good to go, good.
Speaker 4: Cool and can you use f R S ANDRS.
Speaker 1: Tim is just Tim is just a jackass. I told
Speaker 1: you because he was drunk.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm go drunk and go home. Go drunk
Speaker 4: your home.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm a huge fan of of the of the Part
Speaker 3: ninety five services and I love them. I have MERS
Speaker 3: radios I use because no one else uses it, so
Speaker 3: I can be on MERS and you can use external intennas.
Speaker 3: I have a MERS radio in my car. My wife
Speaker 3: has a Mersey radio and her car we just merves
Speaker 3: back to Yeah, we go back and forth on on
Speaker 3: road trips because no one else is using it except Walmart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's right, the Walmart parking lot. And you
Speaker 2: mess with him.
Speaker 4: I've done that. I mean no, I have not done that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah I have. That's good.
Speaker 4: They get all bent out of shape.
Speaker 2: It's hilarious. Yes, yes, indeed on the website here if.
Speaker 3: I can take a second and talk about the Flag
Speaker 3: and t Society, because that's a that's an interesting So
Speaker 3: the Flag and Torch Society is is a military affiliated
Speaker 3: amateur radio club that essentially, so I'm in the army
Speaker 3: and uh so we get we get stationed wherever the army,
Speaker 3: you know, the services direct us to go wherever they
Speaker 3: tell us to go every three years, and so making
Speaker 3: a lot lasting connections with the Ham Radio Club is
Speaker 3: a challenge. And some guys but, well, why don't we
Speaker 3: make a distributed online amateur radio club for current and
Speaker 3: former military members. And then that came the Flag and
Speaker 3: Toward Society, and and they reached out to us as
Speaker 3: the Winter Field Day Board and said, hey, look, we
Speaker 3: we necessarily exist as a distributed club. We can't get
Speaker 3: together and do one winter field Day. Is there some
Speaker 3: way we can work out a deal. And it took
Speaker 3: the board a couple of months of working with them
Speaker 3: and making sure we did it right. And essentially they
Speaker 3: the Flag and Torch Society has a SPAL, a one
Speaker 3: time special exception to run up to ten stations at once,
Speaker 3: only one per FCC call area, and they have to
Speaker 3: use so it's it's K two fts slash zero through
Speaker 3: slash nine. They have to be outdoor or austere indoor
Speaker 3: and we get basically what w f t A gets
Speaker 3: final say on you know, did you did you do
Speaker 3: it right? They even they already have a Internet linked
Speaker 3: in three f JP server setup to where they're going
Speaker 3: to avoid dupes across the country and we might I
Speaker 3: don't know if this is going to happen. There might
Speaker 3: be a guy in a member in South Korea operating
Speaker 3: as WOW. So nope. Yeah, So that's really exciting that
Speaker 3: these guys came to us UH with the with the
Speaker 3: challenge and and he said, all right, and there might
Speaker 3: be UH in any club who has a similar situation.
Speaker 3: It's going to be pretty pretty rare to find that.
Speaker 3: But if there's another club that serves the public in
Speaker 3: that necessarily distributed way, can we can talk to them
Speaker 3: about that.
Speaker 4: There's a number of distributed clubs out there, and if
Speaker 4: this goes well, I can see a way for those
Speaker 4: clubs to get on the air using that call sign.
Speaker 4: Their a call sign.
Speaker 1: The so the the ham Raided Adventures Club, Whiskey Eco Ford,
Speaker 1: Delta x Ray they did that one year for the
Speaker 1: Support You Park's weekend, the July Support Parks Weekend, which
Speaker 1: is their plack weekend that they I don't know if
Speaker 1: they still do the Plack weekend or not, but they
Speaker 1: used to, and that's what they did. They did Whiskey
Speaker 1: Echo for Delta x Ray, Slash zero, Slash one, Slash two,
Speaker 1: so I don't think they don't think they have all
Speaker 1: the call areas covered, but they had five or six
Speaker 1: of them covered at least, So that was I've seen
Speaker 1: something like that happen, not with field Day winterfield Day obviously,
Speaker 1: but an effort like that happened in the past, and
Speaker 1: I think that's a really fun thing to do. So
Speaker 1: I hope it works out for a K two fts
Speaker 1: to see to open it up.
Speaker 4: And if it works out, can they connect tail into
Speaker 4: other distributed clubs right exactly?
Speaker 3: And they have to be so it can't just be
Speaker 3: an online club, because I mean, I have an online
Speaker 3: club just just because I wanted one. But it's got
Speaker 3: to be they serve they serve a purpose that you
Speaker 3: cannot serve the other way.
Speaker 4: Okay, it's a bit interesting, and we'll see see if
Speaker 4: it works out this time and if y'all can adapt
Speaker 4: it to something else later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're certainly certainly looking forward to it. I think
Speaker 2: it's going to be a great adventure with them, and
Speaker 2: it'd be interesting to see how many people can get
Speaker 2: in touch with them, specifically for each of their different
Speaker 2: call zones that they have going. So you know, kind
Speaker 2: of there's almost a special vestation in some ways within
Speaker 2: the Winter Field Day not really directly related to us,
Speaker 2: but they're just operating as another station. But it might
Speaker 2: be fun to see how many of those you can contact.
Speaker 2: So so now you know they're out there and you're
Speaker 2: aware of it, that might be something to do. You know,
Speaker 2: it's something we're you know, right now, we're running our
Speaker 2: nineteenth year, and I think it's one of those things
Speaker 2: that winterfield Day has come a long ways in those
Speaker 2: nineteen years. For sure. It's really no longer just a niche,
Speaker 2: small event as part of amateur radio. It's it's really
Speaker 2: become a very well known, established event that people look
Speaker 2: forward to every year. I mean within I swear within
Speaker 2: a week of Summer Field Day happening, people are always
Speaker 2: emailing and saying, hey, what are your rules? When we
Speaker 2: posted for next year, you know, so it happens almost
Speaker 2: an editableloid, and you know, it's one of those things
Speaker 2: that we've really got a good repertoire going right now,
Speaker 2: and it's been you know, we've continued to see growth
Speaker 2: in the number of contacts, the number of people being
Speaker 2: involved each and every year, and we really hope that
Speaker 2: this will be a good year for us as well,
Speaker 2: and that we'll see even greater growth in next year,
Speaker 2: being our twentieth year and expecting a lot of cool changes.
Speaker 2: Objectives to change, you know, some things that you know,
Speaker 2: maybe do some slow scan television putting. You know, maybe
Speaker 2: you know we've talked about you, and maybe find a
Speaker 2: way to have somebody named the Bear. We might look
Speaker 2: at doing something, you know, we might look at doing
Speaker 2: something like a special event station for winter field Day
Speaker 2: for a twentieth year. I mean, there's all kinds of
Speaker 2: things that we're kind of consindering and thinking about and
Speaker 2: running with and we're really looking forward to that. So
Speaker 2: it's really a funny event. It's a great time. If
Speaker 2: you haven't done Winterfield Day before, I really urge people
Speaker 2: to get out there and certainly try it, or go
Speaker 2: on our website, look for that club near you, go
Speaker 2: visit it and really just have a lot of fun
Speaker 2: with it. That's that's our most important thing is and
Speaker 2: really make it about challenging yourself as well. I mean,
Speaker 2: we all know that cold weather batteries do not endure
Speaker 2: as long. You may not endure as long depending on
Speaker 2: where you're at. You know, Dallas and Texas, one place
Speaker 2: in northern Minnesota or in northern Pennsylvania might be a whole.
Speaker 1: Nother story for its story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, different stories. So you know, it's like how long
Speaker 2: can your batteries and everything last out there? How long
Speaker 2: can you go? And that really makes a difference too.
Speaker 2: So you know, if you're hitting really cold weather, blizzard
Speaker 2: conditions or something, you know, can your antennas withhold and
Speaker 2: with stand up? You know what's going on weatherwise, So
Speaker 2: you can really create a lot of challenges. And if
Speaker 2: you haven't learned something like wind link or doing JSA
Speaker 2: call again, you another challenge for yourself to really go
Speaker 2: out and figure those things out and really learn something
Speaker 2: new for twenty twenty six and you know taking part
Speaker 2: in some of those challenges. So that's that's the other
Speaker 2: thing that we really encourage is, you know, just besides
Speaker 2: having fun, is being able to learn and challenge yourself
Speaker 2: for something new.
Speaker 4: Here talking about something new and challenging. Are you all
Speaker 4: allowing slow scan images as a mode?
Speaker 2: We do allow it if you didn't exchange. It is
Speaker 2: a digital mode and you certainly can use slow scan
Speaker 2: television if you want to exchange. Make another contact with
Speaker 2: somebody else do Winter Field Day for sure. If things
Speaker 2: go well and I'm doing okay and I've got depending
Speaker 2: on which station I'm at, I may send out a
Speaker 2: couple myself just for giggles and fun.
Speaker 4: But mode.
Speaker 2: And so it may not be a Winter field Day
Speaker 2: official this year, but you certainly, you know, certainly send
Speaker 2: that as if you want to make the exchanges that
Speaker 2: way for sure.
Speaker 3: With the well actually yeah, before the well, actually, folks
Speaker 3: come out in the in the comments. We we know
Speaker 3: so scan TV is actually an analog mode, and we
Speaker 3: know it's an image mode, but we have three categories
Speaker 3: and it fits best digital.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, what's up my glasses here?
Speaker 2: Right, I've got quick. I don't know why, but people
Speaker 2: do love challenging us on those things like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I thrive. I thrive on that, So so
Speaker 3: bring it.
Speaker 2: I've got it.
Speaker 3: I've got a quick I've got a quick screen share
Speaker 3: if that's okay, it's yea goes back to the Flag
Speaker 3: and towards Society. So this was.
Speaker 4: All right, Yes, that's awesome.
Speaker 3: So so this was from the This was from the
Speaker 3: president of the Flag in Towards Society. He sent me
Speaker 3: a couple of these and he basically told told the
Speaker 3: AI to just keep making the bear more yoked, over
Speaker 3: and over again. And so then we get then we
Speaker 3: get to that, oh gosh, and these were probably these
Speaker 3: may or may not become official Winter field Day things,
Speaker 3: but I wanted to share it because they were so amazing.
Speaker 4: You must do that over slow scan.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, I image.
Speaker 2: So I had not seen those myself yet, so it's funny.
Speaker 1: So, uh so next year is twenty So the twenty
Speaker 1: first year, we need to get a sponsorship from like
Speaker 1: a Buffalo trace or y Weller, and he needs to
Speaker 1: have some whiskey in his hand. That needs to be
Speaker 1: the thing for his twenty first and that cigar. So yeah,
Speaker 1: well you could buy cigars at eighteen technically, but.
Speaker 2: Twenty one now, is it really?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 4: It blew my mind. I have a nephew and just
Speaker 4: started smoking. He's like, I'm twenty one, I can smoke.
Speaker 4: I'm like, couldn't you do that? Aighte? And he goes no,
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh.
Speaker 1: We could do depends on it's it. Yeah, it's all
Speaker 1: state driven. Tobacco laws are usually stay driven. So okay, guys,
Speaker 1: we've been going for an hour and fifteen minutes and
Speaker 1: we're starting to lose a little bit of audience here.
Speaker 1: It's I appreciate everyone hanging with us who's been with
Speaker 1: this so far. It's been a really fun talk and
Speaker 1: looking forward to the event itself. So uh, Marvin and Mike,
Speaker 1: thanks for your time tonight. Uh any last parting words
Speaker 1: or anything like that.
Speaker 3: Just thanks, yeah, thank thanks to everyone who participates, and
Speaker 3: and thanks to everyone who brings challenging questions to us.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think we spent a lot of the
Speaker 3: the stream kind of on the edge cases and in
Speaker 3: the weeds, and that's that's great. I think when you
Speaker 3: if you go to the website and read the rules,
Speaker 3: you'll find it's not nearly as complicated as as we
Speaker 3: we've made it. But but yeah, but definitely reach out
Speaker 3: to us. I think we're I really think we're one
Speaker 3: of the most responsive like like organizers. I almost said
Speaker 3: the bad word, I almost said contest one of the
Speaker 3: most responsive event organizers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, out there, But yeah, I did see that email
Speaker 2: just came in from u K five l K. I
Speaker 2: was watching ham Radio two point oes tonight with a
Speaker 2: problem regarding the website. So yeah, well we'll get back
Speaker 2: to you on your ticket on that and get that
Speaker 2: response put out there for sure for the Crossroads Ham
Speaker 2: Radio Club. So thanks for watching and uh and we'll
Speaker 2: get your ticket response to and looked at it for
Speaker 2: sure and get that dealt with for you. So thank
Speaker 2: you for reaching out so awesome good But yeah, just uh, Jason,
Speaker 2: I just I want to say, yeah, just thanks for
Speaker 2: bringing us on and watching and letting us be part
Speaker 2: of this stream and sharing about winter Field Day and
Speaker 2: and you know, getting not a lot of new things
Speaker 2: this year. A lot of new things pop up next
Speaker 2: year for sure, but this should be another good year.
Speaker 2: Go out and rich to your site. We are a
Speaker 2: five o'h one C three organization. You can donate to
Speaker 2: us as well. It's like I had a donation come
Speaker 2: in through the live stream here as well a few
Speaker 2: minutes ago on our web page. So I appreciate those donations. Again,
Speaker 2: it kind of help support us in the vac end.
Speaker 2: Even if you don't go out to our shop store,
Speaker 2: there is an option that you can do those little
Speaker 2: five bucks or you know, you can do a hire
Speaker 2: bucks and we'll give you a sponsorship on the web
Speaker 2: page as well. But thank you for all those that
Speaker 2: do help support us and that do participate in Winter
Speaker 2: Field Day. We look forward to hearing you and working
Speaker 2: you this year on the air, and we'll see you
Speaker 2: in two weeks.
Speaker 1: So absolutely, yeah, yeah, I appreciate y'all's time tonight. It's
Speaker 1: always a fun discussion and it's a really great event.
Speaker 1: If you've never done Winterfield Day before, go out and
Speaker 1: do it. You'll have a lot of fun with it,
Speaker 1: I do, I believe indeed, yep, all right, well we
Speaker 1: will Frank, did you have anything.
Speaker 4: Coming up on the channel? We are talking about antennas.
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to get this video series kicking off.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be talking about types of antennas and their
Speaker 4: U cases so that you can choose the right intenna
Speaker 4: for whatever deployment that you are going to go for it.
Speaker 4: So I'm looking forward to get that shot and edited
Speaker 4: down for Monday's release. Not this Monday, but next awesome.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, thanks to everybody. Once again, I appreciate the time.
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