WEBVTT 1 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:06.319 Happy Sunday. Thanks for joining us. We're gonna get started 2 00:01:06.319 --> 00:01:09.799 here in just a minute. Y'all were watching Frank's stream. 3 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:12.599 I think he's about to wrap it up, so we'll 4 00:01:12.640 --> 00:01:14.319 get started here in just a minute. Thanks guys for 5 00:01:14.359 --> 00:02:22.719 being here early. All right, I show seven o'clock in 6 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:28.840 Texas and we're gonna hop right in here. So good 7 00:02:28.879 --> 00:02:33.400 evening to all. Thanks for joining me another Sunday back 8 00:02:33.439 --> 00:02:36.120 in the shack. I had to rebuild my whole computer 9 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:39.080 this last week, so I'll talk about that in a minute. 10 00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:42.960 It was kind of fun and scary at the same time, 11 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:47.080 so but happy Sunday. Thanks for being here tonight. Shout 12 00:02:47.080 --> 00:02:49.159 out to the folks in green text in the chat 13 00:02:49.199 --> 00:02:53.879 YouTube channel members Dan Model, I hope I'm saying that right. 14 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:56.680 I saw you in there first. I saw Tom in 15 00:02:56.719 --> 00:03:01.120 there KB eight d XN Paul the Southern m other 16 00:03:01.199 --> 00:03:06.280 Tom w B seven O U T cis as. I'm 17 00:03:06.280 --> 00:03:09.560 not sure what that is brooks kJ five f T 18 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:12.800 T GF O Dale. Andy Colly's in there, of course. 19 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:16.319 Good evening or a happy late night for you, Andy, 20 00:03:17.240 --> 00:03:22.120 Kevin w V zero p O h j s V 21 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:26.120 T l I K. I don't know YouTube changed all 22 00:03:26.120 --> 00:03:27.919 the names. So now instead of seeing your name, I 23 00:03:27.960 --> 00:03:30.520 see your your handle, which is your AT symbol after 24 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:34.199 your channel YouTube channel. So it's something YouTube changed about 25 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:37.159 how the chat feeds in. I'm hope they changed that 26 00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:38.759 back or give me a way to change that to 27 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:41.039 where I can see your actual name instead of what 28 00:03:41.159 --> 00:03:43.599 your handle is. But that's where it is right now. 29 00:03:44.840 --> 00:03:47.199 K H two x X k Q four F I 30 00:03:47.280 --> 00:03:52.560 P Jerry David p D five I T. He says 31 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:55.919 hello from Ohio p D five I T. That's looks 32 00:03:55.960 --> 00:03:59.479 like a DX call sign. So, uh, there's Jody in there, 33 00:03:59.719 --> 00:04:04.240 v A five sar. Good evening, guys, thanks for being 34 00:04:04.280 --> 00:04:06.960 here tonight. So yeah, we're talking about winterfield Day, one 35 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:10.560 of my favorite times, one of my favorite events through 36 00:04:10.560 --> 00:04:15.599 the year, because well I was on a call with it. 37 00:04:15.680 --> 00:04:21.360 You guys, remember Tom Oh gosh, I forget Tom's last 38 00:04:21.480 --> 00:04:23.759 I forget his call sign right now. But he used 39 00:04:23.800 --> 00:04:26.560 to live stream every Tuesday night, I think it was, 40 00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:28.360 and he'd go for like three hours or whatnot, and 41 00:04:28.399 --> 00:04:31.759 he'd have a lot of different guests on there and 42 00:04:32.199 --> 00:04:34.439 covering a lot of good subjects. And the statement was 43 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:39.439 made one time on his show that winterfield Day is 44 00:04:39.480 --> 00:04:42.240 better for testing your equipment because summerfield day the weather's 45 00:04:42.279 --> 00:04:45.360 so nice and cheery and blah lah lah. And I'm like, obviously, 46 00:04:45.399 --> 00:04:49.360 you've never done summerfield Day in Texas because winterfield Day 47 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:52.000 can be we might it might be eighty five degrees 48 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:53.879 where we are, and it might be twenty five degrees 49 00:04:53.879 --> 00:04:55.480 where we are, and you never can really tell what 50 00:04:55.519 --> 00:04:58.680 it's going on. But winterfield Day is winterfield Day is 51 00:04:58.720 --> 00:05:01.519 a fun, fun event. Enjoyed it for the last several years, 52 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:05.160 and I'm excited to talk about that tonight. So I'm 53 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:09.360 still waiting on Frank to uh wind down his stream 54 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:10.839 and come to the chat. He's gonna be watching the 55 00:05:10.920 --> 00:05:14.000 chat for us, but we're just gonna hop into it here. 56 00:05:14.759 --> 00:05:17.319 And I've got Marvin and Mike, not that Mike but 57 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:19.519 the other mic. How you guys doing the Seeker this evening. 58 00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:21.360 We're good. 59 00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:24.319 A lot of Mike's in him radio, but even in 60 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:26.639 winterfield Day board, there's at least two of you, right, so. 61 00:05:27.040 --> 00:05:30.040 There is so the only way I keep them straight 62 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:32.720 is Michael and Mike, okay difference. 63 00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:35.480 So that's and Michael spells his a little bit differently 64 00:05:35.519 --> 00:05:36.240 than most. 65 00:05:36.399 --> 00:05:38.160 My mother and my mother got creative when. 66 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:42.199 It looks like it looks like it's almost like Dutch 67 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:44.000 or German or something spelling of it. But I don't, 68 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:44.399 I don't know. 69 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:48.680 Got your good questions goes, it's basically Mike with an 70 00:05:48.680 --> 00:05:53.319 elm and so okay, so it's m I C H 71 00:05:53.360 --> 00:05:55.959 A y L. No, it's my k which is very different. 72 00:05:56.000 --> 00:05:57.959 But yeah, I've only say like one other time in 73 00:05:57.959 --> 00:06:00.759 my life. So's it's interesting that it's good. Yeah, he's 74 00:06:01.079 --> 00:06:03.240 he's busy night working on other Winterfield dy stuff, so 75 00:06:03.319 --> 00:06:04.000 he couldn't make it. 76 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:07.319 In Okay, Well that's okay. I'm I'm happy you two 77 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:08.920 were able to make it. I know you all have 78 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:10.360 been doing a lot of work on the back end 79 00:06:11.079 --> 00:06:13.920 and uh talking about a lot of stuff and you 80 00:06:13.959 --> 00:06:17.040 guys are Frank is still yacking. Well that's that's fine. 81 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:20.439 It's because he's Frank. It's okay, that's not a problem. 82 00:06:20.680 --> 00:06:22.920 He'll be here in a minute. It's fine. He's he's 83 00:06:23.240 --> 00:06:25.439 I like him here because he watches that. He does 84 00:06:25.439 --> 00:06:28.439 a really good job on watching the the chat for questions. 85 00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:30.839 So but that's okay. We're just gonna hop right into 86 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:32.839 it and start talking about winterfield Day not a big deal. 87 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:36.000 So what's been on the what's been on the list 88 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:38.480 agenda for whatnot? What's some what's been the big I 89 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:41.120 know you guys were talking about some conversations you were 90 00:06:41.160 --> 00:06:44.759 having about on the Facebook group. So what's the what's 91 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:46.639 the big hot topic this year? If any or maybe 92 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:49.439 there's more than one, Micha. 93 00:06:49.319 --> 00:06:50.439 I'll it you running with that first. 94 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:55.519 Sure, Yeah, so we this is actually something that came 95 00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:59.079 out of your live stream last year, Jason, so and 96 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:02.560 I I give I give credit and or blame whichever 97 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:05.680 he wants to take to gray Man Poe to ask 98 00:07:05.720 --> 00:07:08.639 him this question last year because he asked basically things 99 00:07:08.680 --> 00:07:12.759 like APRS meshtastic, can you make contacts with them for 100 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:15.639 Winter field Day? And you absolutely can. They just have 101 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:19.519 to be simplex one radio to another radio. Yeah, all 102 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:21.680 those things right, same same way you do any other 103 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:25.279 Winter field Day contact. You just have to reconfigure. And 104 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:27.879 so we put a little bourbon there about that, including 105 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:34.600 win Link, and it has we need to workshop how 106 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:36.839 we talk about it, because what it's done is we've 107 00:07:36.839 --> 00:07:39.560 got the win link objective, which doesn't is not a 108 00:07:39.639 --> 00:07:42.319 qso it's just send a win link email, receive one back. 109 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:45.519 You get a multiplier because you can also make QSOs 110 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:47.600 with wing Link, but you have to use peer to 111 00:07:47.639 --> 00:07:52.240 peer mode. And so a lot of people are like, well, 112 00:07:52.759 --> 00:07:56.040 say one thing it counts for qso points another thing doesn't. 113 00:07:56.120 --> 00:07:58.839 What are you doing? So we've I fielded probably a 114 00:07:58.879 --> 00:08:01.800 dozen questions that same question a dozen times in the 115 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:04.879 last couple of days. So happy to clear it up 116 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:07.959 here for anyone who needs it. But the real thing 117 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:10.720 is we want people to get creative with their with 118 00:08:10.759 --> 00:08:15.439 their ham radio equipment and making a contact on making 119 00:08:15.480 --> 00:08:18.879 a Ham radio Winterfield Day contact on Meshtastic gets after that, 120 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:20.720 or win link gets after that. That's what we want 121 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:21.160 to see. 122 00:08:22.519 --> 00:08:26.839 I think we ran a BBS on Meshtastic last year 123 00:08:27.480 --> 00:08:28.920 and we were at a totally different We were a 124 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:31.319 totally new spot last year, and we checked on that 125 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:35.200 spot again this year. And the cabin that we rented 126 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:37.559 inside of a state park it's being renovated, so this 127 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:40.279 it wasn't available at all for this month. I think, 128 00:08:40.879 --> 00:08:42.639 so we're going back to Galveston this year. But I 129 00:08:42.679 --> 00:08:44.440 know that we set up a BBS last year. I 130 00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:47.960 think we did actually make one Meshtastic contact that was 131 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:50.240 not the group of us inside the cabin operating together 132 00:08:50.320 --> 00:08:53.720 under the same club call. So that's that's a fun 133 00:08:53.759 --> 00:08:56.960 event because it's a fun thing to do because you 134 00:08:56.960 --> 00:08:59.080 don't think about it. But the nine hundred megahertz band 135 00:08:59.120 --> 00:09:02.440 is totally it's a shared band with multiple services, including 136 00:09:02.480 --> 00:09:05.240 Ham Radio. Ham Radio has privileges from nine o two 137 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:08.080 to nine twenty seven I think it is. And so 138 00:09:08.120 --> 00:09:10.639 anything anywhere in there around the nine hundred and fifteen megahertz, 139 00:09:10.720 --> 00:09:12.639 right in the middle, which is where most of your 140 00:09:12.840 --> 00:09:15.639 mestastic stuff takes place, it's it's totally inside the Ham 141 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:18.200 radio band. So yeah, as long as we don't turn 142 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:20.399 on m QTT, which I don't think anybody likes to 143 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:23.679 do these days anyway, well we'll probably doing some of 144 00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:24.279 that as well. 145 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:29.120 Yeah, exactly. So's what I've talked to some some people 146 00:09:29.159 --> 00:09:31.200 who are better at meshtastic than me, and they've said, 147 00:09:31.639 --> 00:09:36.120 set your equipment to zero hops, you know, and remember 148 00:09:36.200 --> 00:09:39.480 our rule about it has to be someone who isn't 149 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:42.320 operating Like you mentioned, you're not not someone who's operating 150 00:09:42.360 --> 00:09:44.799 at your site, and it has to that at rfs 151 00:09:44.840 --> 00:09:45.840 to make it outside your. 152 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:49.600 Site, gotcha, Okay, all right, well that might be a 153 00:09:49.639 --> 00:09:53.519 good It might be a good plan to set up 154 00:09:53.559 --> 00:09:55.480 like bring like a some sort of push up pull 155 00:09:55.600 --> 00:09:57.320 or tower or something and put a solar note up 156 00:09:57.360 --> 00:10:01.080 there a little bit higher, which is probably something we 157 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:04.279 probably something we would do anyway, because there's actually I 158 00:10:04.360 --> 00:10:06.039 was so I was again, we're going we're gonna go 159 00:10:06.039 --> 00:10:08.000 back to Galveston Island State Park this year. We like 160 00:10:08.600 --> 00:10:11.720 love operating winterfield Day from a potas spot. Double whammy, right, 161 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:13.679 so you get to you get to turn in multiple 162 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:17.240 logs for it. But but I was down there last 163 00:10:17.279 --> 00:10:22.279 month and actually saw some meshtastic uh you being used 164 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:24.200 on the island, which I have. It's kind of rare 165 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:27.919 to see down there. So and and UH made contacts 166 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:29.919 with the two or three stations on one forty six 167 00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:34.279 five two Simplex as well. So hoping that we of 168 00:10:34.279 --> 00:10:36.919 course we want to do some HF and uh Rob 169 00:10:36.960 --> 00:10:38.679 the digital Rancher, he's gonna be down there with this 170 00:10:38.720 --> 00:10:40.639 at least that's the plan right now. So I'm gonna 171 00:10:40.639 --> 00:10:43.759 get some satellite contacts that way. Uh, but I want 172 00:10:43.759 --> 00:10:46.440 to do some some FM simplex as well, So we're 173 00:10:46.440 --> 00:10:49.960 gonna try to do some uh extracurricular stuff like that, 174 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:52.200 stuff that you do you may or may not typically 175 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:55.399 see instead of just sitting on twenty meters the whole time. 176 00:10:56.720 --> 00:10:58.159 Yeah, I mean that's one of those things where that's 177 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:00.000 why we have a lot of those objectives out there 178 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:02.759 where people can do more than just sit there on HF, 179 00:11:02.879 --> 00:11:05.279 especially if it's a little slow or something else is happening, 180 00:11:05.639 --> 00:11:08.440 as like go look at a satellite pass and and 181 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:10.759 I mean, you know, set up another antenna during that 182 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:13.879 time or something that will certainly help as well. So 183 00:11:14.159 --> 00:11:17.840 and obviously by doing the completing those objectives or those 184 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:21.799 objective number of multipliers we call them, oh amen's uh, 185 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:25.120 you actually gain additional QS points because of it too 186 00:11:25.120 --> 00:11:27.399 at the same time, So it's really going to be 187 00:11:27.399 --> 00:11:29.000 for a benefit for people to go out and do that. 188 00:11:30.480 --> 00:11:33.639 Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, no, that's a that's a great plan. 189 00:11:33.679 --> 00:11:38.120 I think. Good. Okay, well I want to talk a 190 00:11:38.120 --> 00:11:40.440 little let's Frank just join, so let's let's get him 191 00:11:40.480 --> 00:11:42.200 in here real quick. But also I want to talk 192 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:47.440 a little bit more about the about the setting, the 193 00:11:47.799 --> 00:11:49.840 would you call it for wind link to not to 194 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:51.679 to not go over the gateway, but to do like 195 00:11:51.679 --> 00:11:53.519 a peer to peer setting. When I talk a little 196 00:11:53.519 --> 00:11:56.879 bit more about that. But Frank, Frank, what's going on? Man? 197 00:11:57.360 --> 00:12:00.639 Hey man? We ran a little long all right, awesome 198 00:12:00.720 --> 00:12:03.799 social one of my biggest turnouts. Oh, it was so 199 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:06.879 much fun. A lot of friends showed up. I know 200 00:12:06.960 --> 00:12:10.159 you're gonna be here because you're getting your stream ready 201 00:12:10.200 --> 00:12:15.000 and going. But Gigaparts put together a birthday bast shale. 202 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:19.559 We centered around things you need and used during PODA 203 00:12:19.759 --> 00:12:24.039 and it was great. It was great. Yeah, and I'm 204 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:27.480 going to be finishing up some last of my burden 205 00:12:27.639 --> 00:12:31.120 on the street. It's always I am going to go 206 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:34.519 into co host mode and be watching for any questions 207 00:12:34.519 --> 00:12:36.960 in the chat to ask live on the air. 208 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:38.840 That's what we want. 209 00:12:38.840 --> 00:12:40.919 But yeah, man, I am. 210 00:12:40.919 --> 00:12:43.399 A little sad though to say I won't be able 211 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:45.960 to make it out to the Winter Field Day this 212 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:50.960 go around because my mom decided to schedule the family 213 00:12:51.000 --> 00:12:56.600 crews together. Yeah. So, oh, I do have a question 214 00:12:56.720 --> 00:13:00.720 for y'all. If I do contacts on that's tasked it, 215 00:13:00.799 --> 00:13:04.759 Can I submit my logs as far as emergency preparedness? 216 00:13:06.360 --> 00:13:10.159 Yeah, absolutely so we just we we we just talked 217 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:13.600 about this and I'm happy to mention it again. So 218 00:13:15.320 --> 00:13:17.919 you have to, so all the contacts you you make 219 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:21.200 are simplex, right, So so one node to another not 220 00:13:21.320 --> 00:13:24.639 routed through any hops or meshes. Sou said it to. 221 00:13:25.240 --> 00:13:28.080 You set your node and your q so partner sets 222 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:30.360 their node to zero hops. That way, there's no way 223 00:13:30.440 --> 00:13:35.360 it's getting outside of you two. You exchange the winterfield 224 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:39.720 Day exchange and you know you're you're in amateur mode too, 225 00:13:39.759 --> 00:13:42.799 hopefully so you're not encrypted, because that's that's bigger than 226 00:13:42.799 --> 00:13:45.320 winterfield Day. That becomes an FCC thing, right, But yeah, 227 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:48.120 there's absolutely a way you can configure that, and and 228 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:49.759 we want to see people doing that. 229 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:52.799 Honestly, I was ready for you to say no, and 230 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:55.120 then I was going to help make a thing about it. 231 00:13:55.799 --> 00:13:57.799 So you really turned it on the head here. 232 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:00.600 But yes, I've learned lands frame. 233 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:04.240 I know I'm usually a step ahead, but I'll side 234 00:14:04.679 --> 00:14:07.759 uh swiped on this one. But uh, I'll let y'all 235 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:09.960 get back at it. I'll be just watching for any 236 00:14:10.039 --> 00:14:11.720 questions here in the chat, all right. 237 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:17.200 So that's yeah, So that's an interesting I didn't think 238 00:14:17.240 --> 00:14:19.240 about it that way, but that's an interesting point. So 239 00:14:19.720 --> 00:14:25.759 zero hops because the great that So I guess there's 240 00:14:25.799 --> 00:14:26.879 two way to look at it. I think I know 241 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:28.879 where you're coming. I think I get where you're coming from, though, 242 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:31.679 because that would be like using a simplex repeater or 243 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:34.600 just a repeater. That'd be using like a two meter 244 00:14:34.679 --> 00:14:37.440 repeater that's not connected to the internet, right, if you 245 00:14:37.480 --> 00:14:40.320 were going to do two or three hops away on meshtastic, 246 00:14:40.360 --> 00:14:42.080 which you know, we don't want to use repeaters in 247 00:14:42.279 --> 00:14:46.799 field day winterfield day, but it's all off grid because 248 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:48.960 we're not going to connect to the internet mqtt. So 249 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:51.519 in my mind, it's still simplex. But I guess if 250 00:14:51.559 --> 00:14:53.720 you're meshing and hopping more than one hop, then it's 251 00:14:53.799 --> 00:14:57.279 almost like repeater simplex. So yeah, I can see, I 252 00:14:57.279 --> 00:14:59.279 can see the logic behind that. I get it. So 253 00:15:00.919 --> 00:15:02.679 I don't have any of my stuff turned down to 254 00:15:02.759 --> 00:15:06.039 zero hops, so I'm gonna be interested seeing what what 255 00:15:06.120 --> 00:15:10.519 that looks like. Uh but uh yeah, I uh, that's 256 00:15:10.559 --> 00:15:12.279 that's it. That's gonna be a it's gonna be a 257 00:15:12.279 --> 00:15:18.080 fun time to see what to what that does. So good. 258 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:20.039 Uh But yeah, I mean I guess that's kind of 259 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:22.200 the same thing behind the peer to peer win link thing. 260 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:27.279 Right, Yes, absolutely, So that is your your radio to 261 00:15:27.440 --> 00:15:31.720 another person's radio. And the the trick that I've I 262 00:15:31.759 --> 00:15:35.960 think people will appreciate is you because with win link, 263 00:15:36.039 --> 00:15:39.399 you you send an email and someone else gets it. 264 00:15:39.600 --> 00:15:43.399 You have to in your end your session and then 265 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:48.240 re establish another session to get their reply whenever they 266 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:51.039 happen to reply. If you if you like so, if 267 00:15:51.080 --> 00:15:54.159 you and Frank want to do peer to peer win link, 268 00:15:55.399 --> 00:15:58.159 have an email in your in both your outboxes with 269 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:00.879 that winter or field Day exchange mm hmm, so that 270 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:05.360 when you connect with each other, both emails send at 271 00:16:05.399 --> 00:16:09.960 the same time. Done one uh peer to peer win 272 00:16:10.000 --> 00:16:14.320 link session, you get your your send and reply. So 273 00:16:14.440 --> 00:16:19.480 now you've met the winterfield Day UH objective multiplayer and 274 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:21.639 you've just made a QSO on that band, a digital 275 00:16:21.720 --> 00:16:22.600 QSO on that band. 276 00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:26.919 Interesting. I don't know that I've ever done. We did 277 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:30.720 in there like a bulletin you can send in addition 278 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:32.960 to what you're talking about, in addition to making QSO's 279 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:35.559 via win Lincoln. They're like a like a a Winter 280 00:16:35.600 --> 00:16:37.919 field Day bulletin, like a like a news bulletin or 281 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:39.600 something you can send or receive or something like that. 282 00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:41.039 I think there's a bulletin board. 283 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:44.679 Robert Well that that was meantastic, Franks. 284 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:46.200 But so we have a bulletin, we have a we 285 00:16:46.279 --> 00:16:49.159 have a bulletin message that will be sending out right 286 00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:50.559 some stations. 287 00:16:50.840 --> 00:16:53.159 So that's what we did last year. We received that 288 00:16:53.240 --> 00:16:55.679 bulletin message from you guys. But I don't remember doing 289 00:16:55.679 --> 00:16:58.039 any peer to peer stuff, so that's going to be 290 00:16:58.039 --> 00:16:59.759 an interesting thing to I don't know that I've ever 291 00:16:59.840 --> 00:17:01.960 used wind link that way. I know it can be, 292 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:03.679 I've read about it, but I don't know that I've 293 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:04.960 ever used wind link that way. 294 00:17:05.079 --> 00:17:07.160 Yeah, I haven't either. Yeah. 295 00:17:07.319 --> 00:17:09.720 The first time I did it was for winterfield Day 296 00:17:09.720 --> 00:17:15.599 twenty twenty five, and I was actively in communication with 297 00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:18.839 UH with the other guy on we actually coordinated over 298 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:22.519 a j SA call, all right, and we would we'd 299 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:25.039 basically be like, okay, this did. We'd go back to 300 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:27.319 JSA call when it didn't work and figure out, oh 301 00:17:27.480 --> 00:17:31.480 my my configurations messed up. His configuration is messed up. 302 00:17:32.039 --> 00:17:35.720 And so my best advice is try it before Winter 303 00:17:35.759 --> 00:17:38.200 field Day or it's going to be it's gonna it's 304 00:17:38.200 --> 00:17:40.119 gonna take about an hour of your day to figure out. 305 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:40.920 Never done it. 306 00:17:40.880 --> 00:17:44.200 Before, I I I imagine that's true. 307 00:17:44.359 --> 00:17:47.039 Okay, Yeah, I mean that that's a that's a great 308 00:17:47.240 --> 00:17:49.440 you know last year, so it's it's kind of I'll 309 00:17:49.440 --> 00:17:51.880 give a personal story here and a little bit relevance 310 00:17:51.920 --> 00:17:54.640 to even last night was last year, I'd set my 311 00:17:54.640 --> 00:17:56.559 all my gear up, I tested everything. It was all 312 00:17:56.559 --> 00:17:58.759 working from the house, and I thought it was fine 313 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:01.119 that I get out to the winner day sight and 314 00:18:01.279 --> 00:18:03.799 something I have no idea still do to this to 315 00:18:03.839 --> 00:18:05.880 this day. What it was was causing an issue. I 316 00:18:05.920 --> 00:18:08.759 couldn't make JS work last year at all. Couldn't couldn't 317 00:18:08.759 --> 00:18:11.000 get like the computer connected to it or something. I 318 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:13.200 don't remember exactly what it was the issue was, but 319 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:16.839 I couldn't resolve it during Winterfield day time. But came 320 00:18:16.839 --> 00:18:19.920 home and everything was working fine again. So it's just, 321 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:22.279 of course the way it goes. But even last night 322 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:24.160 there was a big JAS event kind of over the 323 00:18:24.160 --> 00:18:28.960 weekend here, and I went to connect my laptop to 324 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:32.519 it again of course I'm a Mac person, But nonetheless 325 00:18:32.880 --> 00:18:34.359 it still works. I know it does, a lot of 326 00:18:34.359 --> 00:18:38.160 people do it and I've done it before, and I 327 00:18:38.279 --> 00:18:41.079 tried different data cables, but some reason my radio was 328 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:44.000 keen just out of the blue, and it would then 329 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:46.160 a few minutes later it would stop king and I 330 00:18:46.480 --> 00:18:48.440 literally have to unplug it sometimes to get it to 331 00:18:48.440 --> 00:18:50.599 stop king. And I thought, what is going on? So 332 00:18:50.640 --> 00:18:52.920 I tried different data cable that tried a different computer, 333 00:18:53.480 --> 00:18:56.039 and I re downloaded from two point two to two 334 00:18:56.039 --> 00:18:58.400 point three software, and I thought, it's gotta be something 335 00:18:58.400 --> 00:19:00.839 that that's setting somewhere and within that I'm just going 336 00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:04.559 to delete it start over, and uh, ultimately, in the end, 337 00:19:04.880 --> 00:19:06.799 it was something in the radio. I don't know it 338 00:19:06.839 --> 00:19:08.319 was a setting or what it was in the Icon 339 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:11.240 seven o five, but uh, it was something in the 340 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:13.920 radio that was causing that radio to key automatically from 341 00:19:13.920 --> 00:19:15.880 the computer. And so I was able to just go 342 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:17.480 in and reset the seven o five back to the 343 00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:20.440 factory reset and it fixed it. But it's just one 344 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:22.319 of those things like I would go through and check 345 00:19:22.359 --> 00:19:24.480 those things way ahead of time before Winter Field Day. 346 00:19:24.680 --> 00:19:27.119 That's not the time when you're trying to make contacts 347 00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:30.000 that you have all these problems going wrong. So, I mean, 348 00:19:30.039 --> 00:19:32.119 I spent probably two hours last night screwing with it, 349 00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:35.039 like are you this is unbelievable? Like I shouldn't take 350 00:19:35.039 --> 00:19:36.799 this long to I mean, I've done JST with a 351 00:19:36.839 --> 00:19:38.960 computer before. It's not a big deal, but it was something. 352 00:19:39.119 --> 00:19:41.119 It was, but you didn't realize it was a problem 353 00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:43.319 in the radio because it was some setting and trying 354 00:19:43.319 --> 00:19:45.559 to figure out what that setting was. Good luck to you. 355 00:19:47.480 --> 00:19:49.799 So that's why factory reset a lot of times. It 356 00:19:49.839 --> 00:19:52.000 is just a quick and easy solution, just kind of 357 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:57.880 fixing it. So yeah, totally. Oh, oh gosh, yeah, that's uh, 358 00:19:57.960 --> 00:20:01.079 that's I think we've all been there before where you're 359 00:20:01.079 --> 00:20:03.279 fighting with something during the event and that you should 360 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:08.759 have tested beforehand. But that is the thing there. But uh, okay, 361 00:20:08.799 --> 00:20:10.519 so you brought up j C call, which is great. 362 00:20:10.640 --> 00:20:14.079 So the question of FT eight comes up every year. 363 00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:17.119 I assume that nothing's changed on on the FT eight 364 00:20:17.160 --> 00:20:17.799 front this year. 365 00:20:18.440 --> 00:20:20.400 Yeah, nothing's changed on the FT eight front. I think 366 00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:23.559 Mike and we mentioned this last uh winter field or 367 00:20:23.440 --> 00:20:26.079 a winter field day board meeting here were still going 368 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:28.319 and uh, it was one of those things we kind 369 00:20:28.319 --> 00:20:30.319 of looks like we hit that on the front and 370 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:32.480 several months ago and kind of wiped that out and 371 00:20:32.519 --> 00:20:35.240 nobody's really asked much about it since then. Mike can 372 00:20:35.240 --> 00:20:37.400 give us some more information on that if it is. 373 00:20:37.440 --> 00:20:39.480 But yeah, we continue to you know, say it's not 374 00:20:39.519 --> 00:20:44.160 an income you know, messaging capable system, and uh, you know, 375 00:20:44.319 --> 00:20:46.920 we we prefer things like JSA or or riddy or 376 00:20:46.920 --> 00:20:49.279 something else. There's lots of other digital modes out there. 377 00:20:49.400 --> 00:20:51.720 You can run FT eight, three and sixty other four 378 00:20:51.799 --> 00:20:55.200 days of the year, you know, so you know, if 379 00:20:55.240 --> 00:20:56.759 you want to go overund FT and on field day, 380 00:20:56.759 --> 00:20:58.599 that's fine, but it's not gonna be smithed as part 381 00:20:58.599 --> 00:21:02.480 of the log obviously, so right right, Mike, anything else 382 00:21:02.519 --> 00:21:02.799 on that. 383 00:21:04.319 --> 00:21:08.599 Hey, the way I phrase it is FT eight is 384 00:21:08.799 --> 00:21:13.680 not effective at passing emergency traffic. And I welcome people 385 00:21:13.960 --> 00:21:20.319 to convince me otherwise. And if someone convinces me that 386 00:21:20.319 --> 00:21:22.039 that I'm wrong, I will bring it to the board 387 00:21:22.039 --> 00:21:25.960 and we'll have a discussion. So just for everyone else. 388 00:21:31.079 --> 00:21:34.480 I mean, you technically can couse, you can type anything 389 00:21:34.480 --> 00:21:35.359 in the field you want. 390 00:21:36.160 --> 00:21:41.319 I mean, however, though, your fields will automatically change on 391 00:21:41.359 --> 00:21:43.920 the next contact, so you can't. You got to keep 392 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:44.839 updating them. 393 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:47.039 Right, But if you're trying to make an emergency contact, 394 00:21:47.039 --> 00:21:50.400 all you need is one, so you know, send help 395 00:21:50.480 --> 00:21:53.920 to grid, you know, X, Y Z whatever and uh 396 00:21:54.759 --> 00:21:57.799 something like that. So I mean it's not designed for that. 397 00:21:57.799 --> 00:22:01.359 That obviously that's not designed for for that type of communication. 398 00:22:01.480 --> 00:22:04.160 Can you do it? Sure? In a roundabout way, yeah 399 00:22:04.160 --> 00:22:06.079 you could. You can do it, And and the character 400 00:22:06.119 --> 00:22:08.680 space is very limited. Like Riddy and JSA call, you 401 00:22:08.680 --> 00:22:10.440