Speaker 1: Welcome to spacing Out with BB and Jason this week
Speaker 1: covering Foundation season two, episode six, Why the Gods Made Wine.
Speaker 2: Welcome to spacing Out.
Speaker 3: I'm Bb and I'm Jason, and we are discussing the
Speaker 3: Apple TV sci fi series Foundation, one episode at a time.
Speaker 3: Spoiler free. We have not watched anything beyond this episode,
Speaker 3: so we can't spoil it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: In this episode, Salvor meets a young Mentallic and learns
Speaker 3: how Tellum rescues telepaths, but tensions rise when Tellum opposes
Speaker 3: a second Foundation and gives Gail an ultimatum choose between
Speaker 3: Harry and the Mentallics. Harry distrusts tell him, and after
Speaker 3: an argument, she secretly traps him in a title pool
Speaker 3: to drown while he experiences visions of his past on
Speaker 3: trantor Sarah upstage his brother Day during their public introduction,
Speaker 3: unsettling him, while Constant and Polly arrive and are promptly arrested. Meanwhile,
Speaker 3: Hober locates the Spacer mothership and boards it, and Constant no,
Speaker 3: that's see. In the sentence.
Speaker 1: Vibe check, did we like the episode overall?
Speaker 2: It was all right. I like this one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this was a pretty solid episode. Honestly. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was not expecting it to go into like this
Speaker 3: deep dive into Harry Selden's background and stuff.
Speaker 2: But I think they want you to like him, yeah,
Speaker 2: which is helping.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't off putting. If you told me in
Speaker 3: advance of like you're gonna spend like the last twenty
Speaker 3: minutes of this episode just all Harry Seldyn, they'd be like,
Speaker 3: oh God. But yeah, no, it was really interesting and yeah,
Speaker 3: all the all the storylines are interesting.
Speaker 2: So I forgot all about that magician guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, I don't remember what he's trying to do
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 2: He's like on some coordinate mission.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know they sent him on a mission. They
Speaker 3: gave him the ship and everything. I still remember what
Speaker 3: his goal was. I assume they're going to touch on
Speaker 3: that next episode.
Speaker 1: So trivia time, What facts or news could we uncover
Speaker 1: for Why the Gods Made Wine?
Speaker 3: This is Foundation season two, episode six, Why the Gods
Speaker 3: Made Wine originally aired on August eighteenth, twenty twenty three,
Speaker 3: and the teleplay was written by Jane Espenson, with a
Speaker 3: story by David S. Goyer and directed by Alex Graves.
Speaker 3: All Right, so I couldn't find any specific trivia about
Speaker 3: this episode, but I thought we could look at what's
Speaker 3: to come with season three, which I'm sure we'll look
Speaker 3: at it again when we get to the end of
Speaker 3: the season. But so season three does not have a
Speaker 3: release state yet, but it expected to come out in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. And season three began filming in late
Speaker 3: May twenty twenty three, and then filming was halted due
Speaker 3: to the Hollywood labor disputes, and then when it resumed
Speaker 3: production in February twenty twenty four, production disbanded once again
Speaker 3: due to budgetary issues, before then resume in March twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four, and then showrunner David S. Goyer has now
Speaker 3: parted ways with the series, presumably due to these budget disputes.
Speaker 3: So a lot of turmoil with the third season, but
Speaker 3: it appears to have been shot and should come out
Speaker 3: sometime over the next year. And then Alexander Sadig, who
Speaker 3: we know as doctor Julian Basher, he's been cast in
Speaker 3: a role as doctor Ebling Meee, was a character from
Speaker 3: the books, and if you remember, he was also in
Speaker 3: I think the first episode of the first season as
Speaker 3: a different character, so he must be a fan to
Speaker 3: want to come back new something else?
Speaker 2: Are the album or the money was right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true. That sounds like the money's tight. They
Speaker 3: also announced that season four writing is underway with a
Speaker 3: new showrunner on board.
Speaker 1: Deep Space Dive. Let's break down some of our thoughts
Speaker 1: on the episode. You can share your thoughts with us
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Speaker 3: All right, deep Space dive. Unless you're Harry Seldon and
Speaker 3: that's a deep sea dive. O, suck it, Harry. Why
Speaker 3: are the gods made wine?
Speaker 2: Why they say was to distract you because your enemies,
Speaker 2: like you couldn't stab them, so you make them foolish
Speaker 2: or something like that. So it's all about betrayal, That's
Speaker 2: what it was. They look like little country bumpkins coming
Speaker 2: into that city. They're like, oh, going through security and
Speaker 2: like seeing all those people and stuff and talk like
Speaker 2: laying out all their cards to immigration like idiots. Yeah what,
Speaker 2: no wonder they got caught up?
Speaker 3: Yeah, like surely their their immigration isn't as simple as
Speaker 3: just like okay, here you go.
Speaker 2: I mean some people, that's that's all it takes. It's
Speaker 2: just like what are you what are you in for
Speaker 2: I'm here to visit family, who I'm here on a vacation.
Speaker 2: All right, here's your travel visa. Have fun. And that's
Speaker 2: how a lot of people actually get into the country
Speaker 2: and then they like it, or they get a job,
Speaker 2: or they fall in love, and they end up overstaying
Speaker 2: their visa. There's if there was an easier way to
Speaker 2: become a lawful resident in this country where we live
Speaker 2: right now, in the United States, that would we wouldn't
Speaker 2: have so many quote unquote illegal people. Like I don't
Speaker 2: feel like people can be illegal, it's just that their
Speaker 2: status in the country is not easy to It's it's
Speaker 2: not lawful or whatever. But most of most people that
Speaker 2: come here, they just end up staying over their their
Speaker 2: travel visa or their student visa. God forbid. You come
Speaker 2: here and they find out you're working. But it was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm from the outer reach and I'm here to talk
Speaker 2: to Empire about our business. Why would you tell them
Speaker 2: all that I'm here to travel, I'm a visit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm hearing a diplomatic mission yet unannounced.
Speaker 2: No appointment, No one's expecting me. That sucks.
Speaker 3: Though they got disappeared and right as he was letting
Speaker 3: go of his addiction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think he let it go when he
Speaker 2: met that Harry Selden in that little prison.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's what they were doing on Trentor. We
Speaker 3: also touched space with the emperor making his announcement to
Speaker 3: the people that was then bowguarded hijacked.
Speaker 2: Even the handmaiden or the Asian lady who takes after her,
Speaker 2: was like kind of shook that she was doing all this,
Speaker 2: and he gave her a look like I'm gonna beat
Speaker 2: you when we get home. Their relationship is so toxic,
Speaker 2: and I'm worried about empire because he's not popular by
Speaker 2: any means anymore. Like he's losing planets, he's doing bad stuff.
Speaker 2: So having a fresh young face with a cloud dress on, like,
Speaker 2: what do you do.
Speaker 3: When you don't what do you mean?
Speaker 2: He's like handing over the empire to this young woman,
Speaker 2: like she's way more charismatic than he is. He sucks.
Speaker 2: He's gonna he's like fucking around and finding out all at.
Speaker 3: Once, yep, because he can't just like get rid of
Speaker 3: her now because they made that big public announcement. She's like, hey,
Speaker 3: this is basically a democracy. Now it's telling the people
Speaker 3: that we serve you and your requests are our obligations.
Speaker 3: And the look on his face is like, that's the
Speaker 3: worst thing I've ever heard. Yeah, Like I hate that idea.
Speaker 3: I don't want to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And meanwhile the other brother down and Dusk are like, yeah,
Speaker 3: he's about to find out.
Speaker 2: They were like ooh. When she had grabbed the mic,
Speaker 2: the old one especially, his reaction was great, Oh, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, that's why you That's why I
Speaker 2: like you. Really, he really didn't vet her, and I
Speaker 2: feel like they're conversation in the bedroom when he became
Speaker 2: flaccid should have been a red flag because this guy,
Speaker 2: obviously the reason he loves the robot is because she
Speaker 2: is controllable. He commands her and she obeys. This other
Speaker 2: woman is not like that at all, and they're obviously
Speaker 2: not compatible, So like, why force this because the empire's dying.
Speaker 2: I'm interested to see what's going to happen with her
Speaker 2: after this little outburst. Yeah, this episode had a lot
Speaker 2: of not Gails, but her daughter, what's her name, sal Salvar.
Speaker 2: It had a lot of Salvar in it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in the beginning, she was learning all about the mentallics.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she saw that little boy's memory of getting his
Speaker 2: throat slit and how that one lady saved him. And
Speaker 2: then he's like, oh yeah, and then we do this
Speaker 2: cool mind trick where we can speak out of our
Speaker 2: brains to each other. And she tried to do it
Speaker 2: and she can figure it out. And then he takes
Speaker 2: her into town or the village or whatever, and everybody
Speaker 2: touches her memories. Yeah, which is interesting, like I think.
Speaker 3: Well, and by the people too, just like like zombies
Speaker 3: reaching at her.
Speaker 2: You know, that's how you saw it. That's not how
Speaker 2: I saw it. I saw it as like a group
Speaker 2: of people who were excited to share their story with
Speaker 2: a stranger in a way that we don't get to
Speaker 2: do a lot in our daily lives. To share your story,
Speaker 2: especially something that's traumatic or you know the reason why
Speaker 2: you're othered it's it's uh trauma bonding a little bit.
Speaker 2: So I kind of like that. I thought it was
Speaker 2: sweet and special and kind of overwhelmbeaten too, Like I
Speaker 2: would be so overwhelmed to be one touched by so
Speaker 2: many people, but also to be flooded with the experiences,
Speaker 2: the smells, the sights, the emotions of what they felt
Speaker 2: right before they were saved by this woman. That would
Speaker 2: be overwhelming, I think, And so I like that she
Speaker 2: had to take some time and go be alone with
Speaker 2: Harry and Fish.
Speaker 3: And they try to figure out why why would Harry
Speaker 3: have been made human? It seems like, oh, he's weaker
Speaker 3: now than when he was more but her.
Speaker 2: Her logic was that he now he has some skin
Speaker 2: in the game. Yeah, literally, like he's physically manifested in
Speaker 2: a way where he can lose his life, and now
Speaker 2: maybe life is more precious to him as a human
Speaker 2: than it would have been as an algorithms or whatever
Speaker 2: the fuck he was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of concern about, you know, failing
Speaker 3: to see the humanity and all this when they're trying
Speaker 3: to save people, and that people can become numbers or
Speaker 3: just you know, planets without faces to them.
Speaker 2: What a plot twist that that lady who saved so
Speaker 2: many lives as actually like a people hate her, like
Speaker 2: she hates normal humans like Harry. I was like, oh damn,
Speaker 2: she's just as bad as the humans are who are
Speaker 2: like persecuting the people that she's saving.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because at first, when she's like, I like what
Speaker 3: you're trying to do saving people. I just wish we
Speaker 3: could do it without Harry Seldon. I'm like, yeah, me too,
Speaker 3: I can get.
Speaker 2: On board with that. Yeah. I was like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: honestly like, yeah, I can understand that. I feel that,
Speaker 2: and I think Gail should totally go solo.
Speaker 3: But then she starts saying a few things here and there.
Speaker 3: She's like, we should be saving the right people or
Speaker 3: something like that. Oh yeah, I don't know what do
Speaker 3: you make of her.
Speaker 2: I think she's a classic like sociopath where you pick
Speaker 2: and choose who's worthy of your time and energy and
Speaker 2: you don't see the humanity and the people that aren't
Speaker 2: like you. So it's just like it's a typical asshole.
Speaker 2: She's a dick. She's only saving the people she deems
Speaker 2: worthy of saving, which is not the way that you
Speaker 2: should be saving people. It's like, I don't know, It's like,
Speaker 2: just because you don't like everybody doesn't mean they don't
Speaker 2: deserve to live. But that's exactly how she feels. Because
Speaker 2: we are different, we deserve to live, and no everybody
Speaker 2: else deserves to die perish. And she wants to destroy
Speaker 2: the Foundation because it's saving a version of humanity that
Speaker 2: she does not agree should be saved. I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't know. You can't pick and choose who's human and
Speaker 2: who's worthy of living a human life. And when you
Speaker 2: start doing that, you start becoming the problem. So it
Speaker 2: kind of sucks because I really liked her in the
Speaker 2: first episode she showed up in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So now we're in this situation where it's like
Speaker 3: it's hard to try anyone when she can be so
Speaker 3: manipulative and deceptive.
Speaker 2: And she like makes you go into your own mind
Speaker 2: to fuck you up, yeah, and do things you don't
Speaker 2: want to do, like when she threw the water at
Speaker 2: Gale and she like made her be at her home
Speaker 2: planet all of a sudden. That was so fucked up
Speaker 2: to do that to somebody without their consent, without warning,
Speaker 2: that like that right there was like huge red flag.
Speaker 2: To show up unannounced, to talk to me out of
Speaker 2: your voice in a way that's kind of condescending, like well,
Speaker 2: I can't talk like that. How dare you, you know,
Speaker 2: talk to me on my level, and then to manipulate
Speaker 2: me to the point where I feel like, oh, you're
Speaker 2: trying to make me vulnerable, and then present an idea
Speaker 2: to me that says, turn your back on everything that
Speaker 2: you know and join this group without any knowledge of
Speaker 2: what this group is really about. You've known us for
Speaker 2: like a couple of hours, but here lead us because
Speaker 2: you're special. And Gail fucking takes the bait, which shows
Speaker 2: that she's still fooper ignorant and young and naive about
Speaker 2: the world around her. Because if a bitch had me
Speaker 2: going back to my home world, a place that brings
Speaker 2: me a lot of grief, I'd be on edge and
Speaker 2: I would be not receptive at all, especially with the
Speaker 2: circumstances in which we met are deception, lies and outright
Speaker 2: like like just falsifying your identity, Like why would I
Speaker 2: trust you at all? Like her testing the water is
Speaker 2: the least of what she should be doing, but then
Speaker 2: she goes out and grabs some fruit and gives it
Speaker 2: to her daughter, Like, bitch, what if that fruit's poisoned?
Speaker 3: To right, That's what I was thinking the whole time,
Speaker 3: because they just talked about how like maybe we can't
Speaker 3: drink the water.
Speaker 2: What makes you think you can eat or some random fruit?
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's so fucking weird. I don't understand.
Speaker 2: And her character development or lack thereof, Like I don't
Speaker 2: like because to me, the Gail character doesn't want to
Speaker 2: be the center of attention. She's just kind of been
Speaker 2: pulled into this because she's a smart girl, and she's
Speaker 2: been used for her intelligence time and time again, and
Speaker 2: now she's just falling into another trap where another person
Speaker 2: is using her intelligence or her ability to their advantage.
Speaker 2: That's what Harry did, and now that's what this other
Speaker 2: woman is doing. And when is she going to fall
Speaker 2: out of this trap of moving for other people? When
Speaker 2: is she going to find her own purpose? What if
Speaker 2: the foundation has nothing to do with her? She just
Speaker 2: she's smart enough to see it, Yes, But what if
Speaker 2: she's smarter to move beyond the foundation And we haven't
Speaker 2: even gotten into that at all. How there's a flaw
Speaker 2: in the foundation that she saw there's she hasn't done
Speaker 2: anything to bring that to light, to bring a resolution
Speaker 2: to try to fix that problem. What is she doing?
Speaker 2: She's trying to eat a cult? Now what the fuck?
Speaker 2: I'm confused about her character development, I really am, and
Speaker 2: I must I'm a little upset about it because you
Speaker 2: would think that after being used and manipulated for so long.
Speaker 2: Literal centuries. First it was Race, and then it was Harry,
Speaker 2: and now it's this woman, Like, when is she gonna
Speaker 2: break out of this fucking pattern? It's fucked up. I
Speaker 2: don't like it. I don't like it at all. And
Speaker 2: I hope that she's able to disconnect from these toxic
Speaker 2: people and find her own pass or solve the foundation
Speaker 2: problem in a way that Harry couldn't do or can't do.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's upsetting. I'm just like, why is
Speaker 2: she doing this? It makes no sense, Like the lady's
Speaker 2: argument was not compelling.
Speaker 3: Enough for me. Yeah, so it's almost like she convinced
Speaker 3: her off screen. Yeah, so I don't don't have to
Speaker 3: make of that because tell them even says to her, like,
Speaker 3: these are your weaknesses. This is what Harry is used to,
Speaker 3: you know, manipulate you. And then I feel like she
Speaker 3: uses those things. Yeah literally, all right, So she has
Speaker 3: someone impersonate Harry and fly the beggar.
Speaker 2: Right, she has fucking lackeys. That's already, like, that's how
Speaker 2: bad she is. She's so bad. She has fucking henchman pretending. Well,
Speaker 2: first of all, she has Gail and them come out
Speaker 2: and she's like, well, Gail's not gonna be your friend anymore,
Speaker 2: and she wants you to leave because we're doing the
Speaker 2: foundation without you. And she manipulates Harry to the point
Speaker 2: where he's like run away and cry, and that's when
Speaker 2: she takes her opportunity to impersonate Harry and have him
Speaker 2: fly away on the ship, which honestly would have been
Speaker 2: the best thing for him to do if he could
Speaker 2: have done that, just fucking leave those bitches. Then, Like
Speaker 2: when I saw him leave, I'm like, finally he's leaving,
Speaker 2: and he's taking the Radiant with him. Good for him.
Speaker 2: It's like when you're the little kid who gets bullied
Speaker 2: and you find decide you're gonna go home and you're
Speaker 2: taking your ball with you. What are they gonna play
Speaker 2: with now? But it was actually her two steps ahead
Speaker 2: of him, fucking taking the thing that has like taking
Speaker 2: the ship so they can turn it inside out looking
Speaker 2: for this fucking thing that they want to destroy, and
Speaker 2: she straps him down to a tidepool. Evil genius. Evil genius.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So now I feel like all our hope is
Speaker 3: with Salvor because Gail, I feel like she's in the
Speaker 3: cold now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's in She's in like sin, she's gone. She's
Speaker 2: their leader now quote unquote leader, and what's her name.
Speaker 2: She's like, well, we're gonna explain to her what death means.
Speaker 2: You know, we're gonna fix it. She's she's gonna forgive me,
Speaker 2: and she won't mats. She won't care that Harry dies
Speaker 2: because he's a normy. Yeah, like shit, she's fucked up.
Speaker 2: And then as Harry is like in his I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's not a deathbed, but it's kind of like a deathbed.
Speaker 2: He's like in his final stages of death, he gets
Speaker 2: transported into these old the past. We see his past,
Speaker 2: we see what he's guilty about, why he like decided,
Speaker 2: like why he's been so quiet since he got there,
Speaker 2: and he's like kind of reserved. Apparently he's a fucking murderer.
Speaker 2: Yeah what and he killed uh, some bitch from the
Speaker 2: empire in a pencil skirt with the fucking stampede like
Speaker 2: scar from fucking the loing Like what Also, the haircut
Speaker 2: that they gave to young Harry is fucking ass. What
Speaker 2: the fuck was that? What the fuck was that they
Speaker 2: should have made him wear a little hat or something?
Speaker 2: What the hell? Like a little professor hat you know
Speaker 2: what the hell? I don't know, man, his past is
Speaker 2: like a very interesting I still don't understand how he
Speaker 2: got away with murder and was able to recruit Gail
Speaker 2: with a national contest for mass after that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I assume that because he did so much
Speaker 3: manipulation of their tech that he was able to cover
Speaker 3: whatever tracks or were I guess, so just yeah, And.
Speaker 2: I'm guessing he took the deal because he was at
Speaker 2: trantor eventually, so what was all that? I don't want
Speaker 2: to go I'll be I'll be so upset if I
Speaker 2: leave this city. Oh, I'll be so worthless. And he's
Speaker 2: such a whiner. Just take the deal, go be by
Speaker 2: the like. You can have your happy wife and life
Speaker 2: and be under a constant surveillance here, or you can
Speaker 2: give up your tech. Now, those are your choices, and
Speaker 2: you chose neither, and you fucking did the thing you
Speaker 2: didn't want to do anyway, minus a wife and child
Speaker 2: or whatever. You're your partner. So it's just like, boohoo.
Speaker 2: I'm so sad when he said if I go there,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be so like limited in what I can do.
Speaker 2: And welcome to the world. Welcome to the world of
Speaker 2: living in any sort of authoritarian government. You don't want
Speaker 2: to give up your freedom, bro, When did you have it?
Speaker 2: When did you have this perceived freedom? Because it's all perceived, baby,
Speaker 2: it's not real. You were always gonna have to do
Speaker 2: one or the other. You didn't really have a choice.
Speaker 2: But you made it worse for yourself by throwing a
Speaker 2: fucking tantrum and not listening to the woman in your life.
Speaker 2: And then you lost her, and then you went and
Speaker 2: murdered another woman. You murdered two women with your actions,
Speaker 2: one directly one indirectly. He's a trash human being. I
Speaker 2: don't like him, Like all of this just made me
Speaker 2: feel like, Aha, fuck, just let him die. His life
Speaker 2: is miserable. Let him just die. He doesn't want to
Speaker 2: live anyway, right, Like he thinks everyone is gonna die
Speaker 2: and every the world is going all down the toilet,
Speaker 2: and we need a foundation so we can come out
Speaker 2: of the toilet a nice new turd. Let him die.
Speaker 2: We don't need Harry Selden, we really don't. I'm interested
Speaker 2: to see what's going to happen with him as he
Speaker 2: is graining the toilet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we also learned that his wife Yanna was like,
Speaker 3: the reason psychohistory works is because of her. Yeah, even
Speaker 3: though he's out there getting all the credit these days
Speaker 3: like a man. But yeah, I did find that backstory
Speaker 3: actually really engaging. Yeah, I was really good. I was
Speaker 3: really upset that he murdered a girl fucking scarf from
Speaker 3: the Lion King style, like what the fuck? You know,
Speaker 3: if Mufasa just recognized the patterns, he would have been fine. Yeah. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: he's drowning and we've fade the black on that. So
Speaker 3: I think, I mean, Salvor was the one that got
Speaker 3: to talk to him in between him storming away from
Speaker 3: that argument and being put in that pool. Yeah, so,
Speaker 3: I mean she hopefully is suspicious of everything because she
Speaker 3: knows that, like, well, one, he wanted her to find
Speaker 3: the radiant the radio on the ship, so it doesn't
Speaker 3: make sense that he would have taken her away.
Speaker 2: If he doesn't know where it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then we briefly touched in with hober Mallow
Speaker 3: and him arriving with the Spacers.
Speaker 2: The genetically engineered humans. Yeah, we learned that in this
Speaker 2: episode too, that they're genetically engineered humans. Yes, so we
Speaker 2: will see what their significance to the Foundation is I
Speaker 2: like that They're like, what have you soiled the space?
Speaker 2: Why did you taint it? It's you're nasty.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, so I'm I'm guessing we're gonna see more
Speaker 3: of him next episode. He was just kind of threadd
Speaker 3: in there lightly anything else on this episode.
Speaker 2: I'd like more flashbacks, Like I think I said that
Speaker 2: in the last episode that I'm like, I really enjoyed
Speaker 2: spending time in the past, So I really do enjoy that.
Speaker 2: I think that helps us with the character development in
Speaker 2: a lot of ways.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean, Harry Selman is more human now
Speaker 3: than he has been the whole show. Mm hmmm, and
Speaker 3: not just because he's literally human now.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I was surprised it was such a lengthy flashback.
Speaker 3: I assumed we were just getting a quick flashback.
Speaker 2: Right, I thought we were going to see the murder
Speaker 2: and that's it. But we saw the whole development of
Speaker 2: like him becoming a tenured professor and accepting the job
Speaker 2: and developing these crazy ideas and getting a watchdog assigned
Speaker 2: to him, and you know, maneuvering the staircases and meeting
Speaker 2: a new anganu who helped him like break over in
Speaker 2: his study. He is Field of study in a way
Speaker 2: that never before has been seen. And then he like
Speaker 2: has a baby, and then all of a sudden he
Speaker 2: doesn't have a baby.
Speaker 3: And oh my god, accidentally turn on some other show,
Speaker 3: like a academic drama.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I liked it though I thought it
Speaker 2: was good. I really do like the flashbacks. I want
Speaker 2: to see a flashback of what happened to the Cloud
Speaker 2: Princess's parents. For all of the referencing of oh, you
Speaker 2: killed my family or my family's dead, I haven't seen
Speaker 2: their tragedy and I would love to see that, Like
Speaker 2: I want to see the especially because she survived the attack,
Speaker 2: so I would love to see that story. Yeah, maybe
Speaker 2: it's in the works.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean maybe we will will get it, just
Speaker 3: because they've now revealed like the Emperor was behind it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm into the flashbacks. I think I'm starting
Speaker 2: to get into the show.
Speaker 3: Would you like to get into the astral Queen section?
Speaker 2: Oh shit, yeah, astral Queen who was the standout character
Speaker 2: in the episode. I'm gonna pick a homegirl, more specific Balvor.
Speaker 2: She caught a fish, she did, and it was her birthday.
Speaker 3: It was her birthday.
Speaker 2: And she got to uh, you know, connect with the people,
Speaker 2: learn about stuff, and she.
Speaker 3: Seemed like genuinely happy through a lot of this episode.
Speaker 2: I liked her role in this one. I thought she
Speaker 2: was really present, Like I think part of it was
Speaker 2: that what she did a lot was questions. She had
Speaker 2: questions for Harry, she had questions for that kid. She
Speaker 2: had questions, and I love a bitch who has questions.
Speaker 2: As a bitch who has questions, I love me a
Speaker 2: bitus questions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she didn't come come out any of it with
Speaker 3: judgment or anything.
Speaker 2: No, it was just pure curiosity and learning and understanding
Speaker 2: and just being open to an experience. Who's your astro queen?
Speaker 2: Is it the Cloud Princess?
Speaker 3: I'm leaning that way. I also had Salvar in mind because.
Speaker 2: That Cloud Princess. That dress was iconic, that cloud dress.
Speaker 2: I want that dress, even with that little bit of
Speaker 2: titty coming out. Love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I did love her speech and how angry she's
Speaker 3: made brother day oh.
Speaker 2: Man, that was the angriest teeth Like, I've never seen
Speaker 2: that guy act harder.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'll pick her for a moment. I was
Speaker 3: thinking I might pick tell him, but then her character
Speaker 3: went off the deep end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I really miss the good days when she
Speaker 2: was just a hairy hater. But when she was when
Speaker 2: she said all normis die, I'm like, oh no, oh no, friend,
Speaker 2: that's a genocide.
Speaker 3: Oh no, well, yeah, so Salvar and Sarah will be
Speaker 3: receiving awards on this the birthday of Salvar.
Speaker 2: Only if you're counting the solar cycles of tram toor
Speaker 2: or whatever she sucked terminus terminus, it's only her birthday
Speaker 2: if you're coning the solar cycles of her that is.
Speaker 2: That's so cute too.
Speaker 3: And is she not like hundreds of years old?
Speaker 2: Now I don't know. I don't know how old she
Speaker 2: would be.
Speaker 3: All right, let wraps up the episode. Then we'll be
Speaker 3: back for episode this seven. Yeah, episode seven a necessary death.
Speaker 3: I wonder if that's Harry. Thank you for spacing out
Speaker 3: with us, and remember when you feel the tug of history,
Speaker 3: give it a whole.
Speaker 2: What what's that from?
Speaker 3: So he says when she catches a fish?
Speaker 2: Oh that's a really good one. I'm gonna get that tattooed.
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