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<v Speaker 1>Then I need you to do three things here. Three things, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>three things today. First things, First, I need you to

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<v Speaker 1>get your picture taken next to Gwyneth Paltrow at a

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<v Speaker 1>cold Play concert wearing a gold suit made of rich

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<v Speaker 1>Corinthian leather and top gun v neck tshirt. Then I

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<v Speaker 1>need you to link up with Chris Baron spin Doctors,

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<v Speaker 1>write a song about Broncos Country Tonight call State Sponsored. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to pair up with Stetson Cologne. Oh God,

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<v Speaker 1>create your own vet blend. You get all three of

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<v Speaker 1>those things done, you have a seventy chance of getting

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<v Speaker 1>back on the Taking It for Granted podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, you got every reference for the last five years

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<v Speaker 2>and there that is well done.

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<v Speaker 3>Certain wells a boss always when that clip gets played,

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<v Speaker 3>you guys know what's coming up next. Lana Sanderson, the

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<v Speaker 3>mile High Hule right out if the wait comments of

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<v Speaker 3>hot Linelands, how you doing thisce eving.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing good? Then you know, I was surfing through Spotify

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<v Speaker 1>the other day and I found that song that you

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<v Speaker 1>wrote with Chris Barren. I'm just surprised that you decided

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<v Speaker 1>to go with a Poka theme, but the accordion solo

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<v Speaker 1>from you absolutely tremendous man. Well done, very well done, some.

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<v Speaker 2>Of my best work.

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<v Speaker 3>People don't know that I've an accomplished accordion and harpsichord player,

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, really, I'm just trying to break back

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<v Speaker 3>your relevant reference, irrelevant musical interests for people, as well

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<v Speaker 3>as promulgating German music, which is my heritage just because

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<v Speaker 3>of my love of the Hasselhoff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, sir, Yes, sir. How are you doing it? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing good.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>We're coming off the three game win streak.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the Broncos won three in a row, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think that people probably through five games, did not

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<v Speaker 3>see this is where the team would be.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of it's by.

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<v Speaker 3>Hook, some of us by crook, but they managed to

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<v Speaker 3>get it done. They've been flashes for the offense and

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<v Speaker 3>the Tampa and.

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<v Speaker 2>The Raiders game.

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<v Speaker 3>Where do you feel about this team right now through

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<v Speaker 3>five games?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, quite honestly, I have to give a big shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to Van Shijosef in the defense and what he's

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<v Speaker 1>able to do with the players that he had, because

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<v Speaker 1>coming into the season, you know, it was so hard

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<v Speaker 1>to project what this defense would look like, specifically against

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<v Speaker 1>the run. You know, you move on from Justin Simmons,

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<v Speaker 1>you bring in Malcolm Roach, bring in Jonathan Franklin Myers.

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<v Speaker 1>But the issues that you had last year, the depth

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<v Speaker 1>concerns that he had coming into the season, Van Joseph

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<v Speaker 1>has this defense playing at a probably the best defense

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL level right now. Like they're third in

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<v Speaker 1>yards per game, second against the yards play, first in

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<v Speaker 1>EPA per play, Like they're getting after it in a

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<v Speaker 1>very special way, and like there's so many different ways

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<v Speaker 1>you can break this defense down, but it all starts

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<v Speaker 1>with Dan Joseph in the aggressiveness that he is chilling.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously the forty one point eight percent blitz percentage right

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<v Speaker 1>now highest in the NFL. Utilizing that secondary which I

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<v Speaker 1>had super big concerns with, especially at the safety position.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'd love to break this down and talk defensively

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<v Speaker 1>specifically for tonight's show.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I look, Vance Joseph getting his flowers is personally validating

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<v Speaker 3>for me. I remember when Advance was hired as the

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<v Speaker 3>defensive coordinator here and I had everyone of their mothers

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<v Speaker 3>screaming that we needed to hire you know, Rex Ryan

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<v Speaker 3>out here. Make sure you have appropriate footwear if we do.

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<v Speaker 3>And I, you know, I liked the hire of Vance Joseph.

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<v Speaker 3>Vance doesn't get enough credit for what he has done defensively.

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<v Speaker 2>When he was the head coach of the Broncos, the

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<v Speaker 2>defense was good.

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<v Speaker 3>They gave out the blueprint for how to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>slow Patrick Mahomes down back when Pat Mahomes was the

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<v Speaker 3>hottest thing going.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't realize that Pat's numbers are down.

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<v Speaker 3>He's still the best quarterback in the league.

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<v Speaker 2>Grant killing me.

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<v Speaker 1>I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you turn around and you look at what

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<v Speaker 3>a Dvance did People talk about that year in Miami.

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<v Speaker 2>He only got one year, didn't get a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>turn it around. You go back to Arizona.

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<v Speaker 3>He took over ostensibly the league's worst defense, and they

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<v Speaker 3>were good.

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<v Speaker 2>By year three.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, the wheels came off in year four with all

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<v Speaker 3>the injuries, But what he did in Arizona I thought

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<v Speaker 3>was good. The thing about Vance Joseph that a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people, I think they'll realize this is ie for talent.

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<v Speaker 3>Van's Joseph is the reason that Zach Allen is here.

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<v Speaker 3>Mass Joseph is the reason that Brandon Jones is here.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think Brandon Jones has been a hidden gem

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<v Speaker 3>for this team. Vance Joseph is coaching the defense that

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<v Speaker 3>has one first round pick on it in Pats Artan,

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<v Speaker 3>and six guys that were Day three or undrafted.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, that's just a heck of a.

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<v Speaker 1>Job, dude. It's it's amazing. Like quite honestly, everybody knows

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<v Speaker 1>that Zach Allen, I mean, he leads the league in

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<v Speaker 1>pressures from interior defensive lineman. He's getting after the quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>at like a sixteen point seven percent, right, Like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>incredible what they're doing up front. And I know that

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's given passer Tannan's flowers, which is absolutely like.

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<v Speaker 2>Due for him.

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<v Speaker 1>And the huge game that he had against Raiders this

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<v Speaker 1>last week, two interceptions, obviously the one hundred yard picks

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<v Speaker 1>pick return for a touchdown. But the guy that I

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<v Speaker 1>think is really the guy that stirs the drink for

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<v Speaker 1>this defense is Brandon Jones. Because of his versatility, his

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<v Speaker 1>ability to line up at a single high safety if

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<v Speaker 1>you need him to do that. He can play both

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<v Speaker 1>halfs of the field. But his ability as a blitzer

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<v Speaker 1>and his tackling ability, the way that they can line

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<v Speaker 1>him and PJ Lock and utilize those guys in that

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<v Speaker 1>blitz scheme, utilizing the linebackers as well, and just allowing

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Allen and Jonathan Franklin Myers and Malcolm Roach to

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<v Speaker 1>be penetrators. That's a big thing for vanc Joseph's defense.

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<v Speaker 1>He wants these defensive linemen to get upfield, even against

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<v Speaker 1>the running game, and allow his linebackers to flow through

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<v Speaker 1>make plays, make plays at the second levels even though

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<v Speaker 1>it's still technically the first level because they're crashing so

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<v Speaker 1>far forward. And if Brandon Jones and PJ Lock and

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<v Speaker 1>the versatility that they bring to the back end of

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<v Speaker 1>that secondary is something that cannot be overstated. Right now.

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<v Speaker 1>PJ Lock, his ability as a blitz is just fantastic

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Brandon Jones again, his ability to see the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>chase the ball down, go and make big plays. He

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<v Speaker 1>has the interception, force the fumble as well, had a

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<v Speaker 1>fumbler recovery. This secondary, I think right now, is not

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<v Speaker 1>getting quite the credit that it deserves for what is

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<v Speaker 1>allowed with Vance Joseph and his pressure schemes up front.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're talking the highest cover zero rate and

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<v Speaker 1>the highest blitz rate in the NFL right now, just

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<v Speaker 1>because your secondary is playing quality at the back end,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you talk about that the highest covers of

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<v Speaker 3>your highest blitz percentage, and there are shortcomings to that,

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<v Speaker 3>and we saw a little bit of that early on

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<v Speaker 3>in the Raiders game. They popped that big run Bowers

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<v Speaker 3>got free on that play.

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<v Speaker 2>There are the.

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<v Speaker 3>Opportunity for busted coverages or the opportunity for one man

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<v Speaker 3>missing and the whole thing. You know, the House of

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<v Speaker 3>cards tumbling does exist on that and we've saw a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of that the Raiders game. Thankfully, Patzertan was

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<v Speaker 3>able to make it up with the one hundred yard

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<v Speaker 3>pick six by the way, fastest ball carrier on a

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<v Speaker 3>twenty miles per hour this year. I you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>love this style of defense. It's a radical departure from

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<v Speaker 3>what we had previously. Vic Fangio, who basically has the

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<v Speaker 3>blueprint on what everybody in the league is running right

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<v Speaker 3>now with the tight front cover four cover two see

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<v Speaker 2>The back end and very little blitzing. Now we're seeing

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<v Speaker 2>the antithesis of that. And I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of a harken back to Vance Joseph's mentor

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<v Speaker 3>and Wade Phillips. But there does exist that is the

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<v Speaker 3>Achilles heel to it. There does exist the potential for

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<v Speaker 3>busts and big plays.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but the one thing that's counteracting at even with

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<v Speaker 1>the bust and big play potential is the tackling ability

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<v Speaker 1>of this unit at the back end. Specifically, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>when you're talking about yards after catch over expected. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>according to NFL plus dot com, the team is fourth

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<v Speaker 1>plus thirteen yards over expected in terms of yards after catch.

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<v Speaker 1>They were minus thirty five last week, which was forty

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<v Speaker 1>yards better than the next defense allowed. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>that the big brock Hours catch and run on the

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<v Speaker 1>first possession that sunk the hearts of Broncos country. That

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<v Speaker 1>definitely factors into this. But even a run run yardage

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<v Speaker 1>after contact over expected, they're six in the NFL minus

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<v Speaker 1>nine yards yards after contact over expected just period eighth

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<v Speaker 1>at two point seven seven yards. This team is rallying

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<v Speaker 1>to the ball, they're making clean, sound tackles, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>really limiting these explosive plays from offensive I understand you've

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<v Speaker 1>got the Kenneth Locker Junior run in Week one. That

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<v Speaker 1>was in the Gino Smith run where they they had

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<v Speaker 1>three lanes to run. Alex Ing Wilson miss that big

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<v Speaker 1>tackle against Kenneth Walker Junior. You got the brock Powers play.

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<v Speaker 1>But every time an offensive player touches the football, they

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<v Speaker 1>are hitting the ground and less than three yards after

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<v Speaker 1>they touched the football, which is a tremendous boost to

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<v Speaker 1>what this defense is and a tremendous boost to what

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<v Speaker 1>Vance Joseph is doing as a defensive coordinator. Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, And I don't want to take away from Vance's flowers.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to say that's the difference between the

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<v Speaker 3>Fangio blueprint and then the Vance blueprint. The Fangio blueprint

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<v Speaker 3>strives to keep plays in front of you. It will,

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<v Speaker 3>it does work in producing lower scoring outcomes designed to

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<v Speaker 3>hold you the field goals, bogging down on the red zone.

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<v Speaker 3>The problem the Achilles field to the Vance Joseph excuse me,

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<v Speaker 3>the Vic Fangil formula is that if you need a

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<v Speaker 3>quick stop, it's probably not going to get you one.

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<v Speaker 3>We saw that too often when Vic was the head coach,

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<v Speaker 3>when Hackett was the head coach, and even when Vance

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<v Speaker 3>was running the continuity sort of last year you saw

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<v Speaker 3>that if you needed a late game stop, you just

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<v Speaker 3>weren't going to get one. It's ben don't break, and

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<v Speaker 3>they would be able to run the clock out.

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<v Speaker 2>And we saw that.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we have a defense that can get those turnovers

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<v Speaker 3>and they're getting them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, man. You've got obviously the three interception game

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<v Speaker 1>against the Raiders, you had uh, Brandon Jones again with

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<v Speaker 1>the interception against Tampa Bay. You had the force fumble

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<v Speaker 1>that that Jones took back again here to the house. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Like they're they're they're not only getting the turnovers, they're

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<v Speaker 1>getting after the quarterback at one of the highest clips

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<v Speaker 1>Like they're they're they're doing it very well with the

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<v Speaker 1>exotic blitz of that dance Joseph is dialing up, allowing

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<v Speaker 1>after the quarterback. This team is just spectacular defensively, and

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<v Speaker 1>quite honestly, it's a treat to watch, especially after what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this defensive turnaround right now, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>out of the Miami Dolphins game, the defense was on

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<v Speaker 1>and Miami was on pace to being one of the

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<v Speaker 1>year later, Denver has the best defense in the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>This turnaround that Vance Joseph has dictated with his play

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<v Speaker 1>calling and with the players actually stepping up, hitting the scheme,

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<v Speaker 1>buying into what Dance Joseph is calling. Defensively, it's amazing

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<v Speaker 1>and quite honestly that the guy should be up for

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<v Speaker 1>he's been just tremendous and I cannot give the guy

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<v Speaker 3>Let me pose the question to you that I'm posing

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<v Speaker 3>to everybody right now, is if Vance Joseph, as expected,

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<v Speaker 3>gets head coaching interviews this offseason and takes a head

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<v Speaker 3>coaching job somewhere, the Broncos get two third round compensatory

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<v Speaker 3>draft picks. Back, is it worse if he leaves and

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<v Speaker 3>takes a head coaching job and Jim Leonard as sensibly

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<v Speaker 3>steps into that role, or is it you know, would

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<v Speaker 3>you rather have would rather have basically the third round

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<v Speaker 3>picks or would rather have vance Joseph next year? Because

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<v Speaker 3>that question, if you'd ask that question last year, universally

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<v Speaker 3>everybody would have said they would have rather had the

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm not so sure.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a difficult question to answer, man, because like I can't,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, I can't give Dance Joseph enough credit

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<v Speaker 1>especially with the offensive playmakers coming out in this year's draft,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that would be a big boost at helping the

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<v Speaker 1>development of Quote Nicks. But what's one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>them to go not go out and make mistakes, don't like,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to when they're necessary, and you'll have some

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<v Speaker 1>success with the young quarterback losing Dance Joseph, I think

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be a big, a big loss for

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<v Speaker 1>this Broncos team, especially right now, because like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>these players are buying in specifically to what they want,

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<v Speaker 1>what he wants them to do. But I think that

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<v Speaker 1>there's an option out there that stupidly got fired from

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<v Speaker 1>Go out and pick him up, bring him in as

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<v Speaker 1>to work with Jim Letard a little bit. Maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>can work some kind of a co defensive coordinator impact

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<v Speaker 1>with those guys. With Robert Solon his linebacker play that

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<v Speaker 1>he always seems to have high quality play coming from,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Jim Letter continuing to work with the secondary.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that that to me is as a quality

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<v Speaker 1>option there. But yeah, losing Dance Joseph would be to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's crazy because a year ago everyone wanted to fire,

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted him ran out of town, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>scared that he was going to lose his job. For sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that for a fact. But what he's doing

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<v Speaker 1>right now to help this team turn around everything again,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm with you on that. Real quick, we got

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<v Speaker 3>You know, a lot of people view this as a

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<v Speaker 3>very winnable game, myself included. But the Chargers are a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit better than people think, at least in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of defense. They're one of the top defenses in the league.

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<v Speaker 3>Twelve point five points allowed per game this season would

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<v Speaker 2>They've already had a bye week and they're coming off

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<v Speaker 3>They have some of the similar problems to the Broncos,

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<v Speaker 3>and that the pass game has just not gotten going

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<v Speaker 3>the thirty first in passing yards per game one thirty six,

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<v Speaker 3>But in terms of rushing yardage, they've been good.

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<v Speaker 2>Their top ten team in terms of running the football.

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<v Speaker 3>Could this be a trap sort of game for the

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<v Speaker 3>Denver Broncos as you look forward to maybe going to

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<v Speaker 1>No, quite, Honestly, looking of this game as intently as

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<v Speaker 1>you did as the Raiders game this last week, I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you've won a couple of games against the Chargers over

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<v Speaker 1>the last handful of years, but it really what does

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<v Speaker 1>that matter. This team right now at three and two,

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be approaching every single game as aggressively as

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<v Speaker 1>they possibly can be, and quite honestly, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>see what they're going to do against this charge of

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<v Speaker 1>this Chargers defense, which has a high quality pass rush,

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing really well against the run, they're doing really

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<v Speaker 1>well against the pass as well, and the Broncos offense.

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<v Speaker 1>As much as we want Boonnicks to be the guy,

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<v Speaker 1>I still need to see a lot more out of it,

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<v Speaker 1>not only from Bonnicks himself, but as Sean Payton is

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<v Speaker 1>more points offensively and not just rely on the defense

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<v Speaker 1>to make plays and pushing in quality situations. Because as

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<v Speaker 1>much as the Chargers have struggled on offense, they've done

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<v Speaker 1>a really good job running the football. They're controlling the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not turning it over, and they're just keeping keeping

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<v Speaker 1>it's the Jim Harbaugh script to every single game that

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<v Speaker 1>count ball control offense, run the football, play physically, grind

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<v Speaker 1>the clock down, shorten the game, and keep the opposing

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<v Speaker 1>think Sean Payton needs to open this thing up a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. We saw a little bit of that in

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<v Speaker 1>the second half after bo Nicks got after him for

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it was when it was a play call, flipping

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<v Speaker 1>the play call, whether it was Bonicks not being under

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<v Speaker 1>the button and was the fumble, it doesn't really matter.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened was bo Nicks started to get a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more confident, started pushing the ball down the field

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more. They were playing with the lead,

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<v Speaker 1>and Sean Payton allowed Boonicks to kind of grow a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, and to me, that was a really big

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<v Speaker 1>sign for the Broncos offense. I want to see more

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<v Speaker 1>of that against the Chargers.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you on that, hopefully some more. Marvin Mims

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<v Speaker 2>reps as well. Lands. We always appreciate.

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<v Speaker 1>Having you or can we talk about that for a second.

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<v Speaker 2>Weak football.

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<v Speaker 3>We got to hit a break, We got hit a break,

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<v Speaker 3>your last but we'll get to it next time.

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<v Speaker 2>We gotta we gotta see more. Marvin Mills.

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<v Speaker 3>We always appreciate you having you on there at Lant

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<v Speaker 3>Sanderson Mile High Huddle