WEBVTT 1 00:00:11.519 --> 00:00:13.759 On on on. 2 00:00:16.039 --> 00:00:26.879 A Welcome to the cec apprecial for episode five O 3 00:00:27.000 --> 00:00:28.719 four five four. 4 00:00:29.199 --> 00:00:35.039 Yes, holy shit, we're yeah. 5 00:00:35.200 --> 00:00:38.479 We're brought to you by the wonderful patrons at patreon 6 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:42.439 dot com slash CeAl podcast, of which we have a 7 00:00:42.479 --> 00:00:45.520 new one to thank too, whether they like it or not, 8 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:51.640 And they do, and we two things. Here's the thing. 9 00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:54.119 Okay, there's two of them. Whether there's two, here's the things. 10 00:00:54.439 --> 00:00:57.119 Here's the things. Yeah, things with the Z Like it's 11 00:00:57.200 --> 00:01:00.679 like nineteen ninety six and we're cool, living biz kid, 12 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:03.920 getting the getting the kids me at Burger King and 13 00:01:03.960 --> 00:01:06.280 it's got a bunch of z's in it or z's 14 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:09.840 depending on where he's from this meal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 15 00:01:09.920 --> 00:01:15.079 yeah uh we oh my god. Producer Gary had a 16 00:01:15.079 --> 00:01:18.239 burger King crown on. What are the odds of this? 17 00:01:18.480 --> 00:01:22.079 What are the odds providence that we're here recording today. 18 00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:26.719 I love when you have like a like a Fates crossroads, 19 00:01:26.719 --> 00:01:29.159 like when the the guy beats the devil at a 20 00:01:29.159 --> 00:01:30.879 fiddle contest at the crossroads. 21 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:34.280 Yeah, but he doesn't though, did he? No, he doesn't. 22 00:01:34.799 --> 00:01:35.879 He beats the devil at anything. 23 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:39.799 Yeah, Tenacious D beat the devil. 24 00:01:41.359 --> 00:01:43.280 I beat the devil at having the sweatiest butt crack 25 00:01:43.359 --> 00:01:43.799 one time. 26 00:01:44.200 --> 00:01:47.959 See you beat the devil. That's that's three people that 27 00:01:48.040 --> 00:01:49.000 have beaten the devil. 28 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:52.239 Does that count though, Yes, because I I I use 29 00:01:52.319 --> 00:01:54.439 that as an expression like that's hotter than the devil's 30 00:01:54.439 --> 00:01:55.239 butt crack out here? 31 00:01:56.280 --> 00:01:59.400 Yeah, yeah, the weather beat the devil too. 32 00:01:59.439 --> 00:02:01.640 Here's devil a bitch, everybody beats him. 33 00:02:01.680 --> 00:02:07.000 Two things. Two things. First thing, okay, uh, we're going 34 00:02:07.040 --> 00:02:09.479 back to our roots tomorrow on Commander Cookout. You better 35 00:02:09.599 --> 00:02:13.319 freaking tune in because it's gonna be I'm feeling I 36 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:16.639 have a feeling that it's gonna be a passionate episode. 37 00:02:16.759 --> 00:02:17.719 We're gonna talk shit. 38 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:19.360 This is how I know. This is how I know. 39 00:02:19.599 --> 00:02:21.879 Tell me, I says Rando, I don't think we could 40 00:02:21.879 --> 00:02:23.560 talk about that for an hour? Is it just gonna 41 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:25.159 be two nerds bitching into the internet? 42 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:26.719 Like that's literally what he says. 43 00:02:26.800 --> 00:02:27.759 Is that what it's going to be? Like? 44 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:28.159 Yeah? 45 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:30.319 And he goes, no, we're gonna do this and this 46 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:32.280 and this and this, and I go, I don't know. 47 00:02:32.560 --> 00:02:35.159 So then I shows up into the damn studio today 48 00:02:35.199 --> 00:02:37.479 and says, hey about the thing, and blah blah, blah, 49 00:02:37.520 --> 00:02:39.400 And we talked about it for ten minutes off air, 50 00:02:39.599 --> 00:02:40.240 not even trying. 51 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:43.159 Yeah, just in preparation for the show that we weren't 52 00:02:43.159 --> 00:02:43.719 preparing for. 53 00:02:43.840 --> 00:02:45.960 We talked about every So it's gonna be good. 54 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:48.120 And I think that lots of people out there are 55 00:02:48.120 --> 00:02:50.400 gonna have thoughts on it as well, which is important. 56 00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:52.280 And if you have thoughts on the things that we're 57 00:02:52.319 --> 00:02:54.639 gonna talk about, you can get at us in the 58 00:02:54.719 --> 00:02:57.280 comments down below. And if you comment about anything that 59 00:02:57.319 --> 00:02:59.759 we talk about throughout the course of this episode, your 60 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:02.120 favorite color, your favorite. 61 00:03:01.680 --> 00:03:03.759 Planet, We're not talking about those things now. 62 00:03:03.919 --> 00:03:06.520 What would be awesome if you could go to any 63 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:09.680 planet in the in like the galaxy? 64 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:13.360 What you'd like to see there, because we were talking. 65 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:16.240 About that at edh now last night, just like things 66 00:03:16.240 --> 00:03:20.879 that were at rains, diamonds or clouds or sulphuric gases. 67 00:03:20.719 --> 00:03:22.520 In there, would have been nice to get an invite. 68 00:03:22.599 --> 00:03:24.520 I actually was gonna come, but then I said it 69 00:03:24.560 --> 00:03:25.840 work a little bit longer than I went to a 70 00:03:25.879 --> 00:03:26.879 hockey game instead of. 71 00:03:26.840 --> 00:03:29.759 This fuck guy. But the point is, if you comment 72 00:03:29.840 --> 00:03:32.360 on the video be entered in to win a Ceco 73 00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:33.560 sticker pack. Huh. 74 00:03:33.759 --> 00:03:37.800 Ceco token pack man or shitty old pack the magic card. 75 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:40.360 You could you win those things. 76 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:41.960 But the point is you could do that stuff on 77 00:03:42.000 --> 00:03:43.439 this episode and that would be super sweet. 78 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:46.120 Yeah, you know what, and and uh, I don't remember 79 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:48.120 what the original second thing was gonna be, but the 80 00:03:48.479 --> 00:03:52.759 new second thing is gonna be man Alive. Are there 81 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:56.479 gonna be some giveaway booster packs from this stinky c 82 00:03:56.680 --> 00:03:59.439 CEO onion bag at the Face to Face Games Open 83 00:03:59.520 --> 00:04:04.520 next week? Good lord, Yeah, I'm gonna have so much 84 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:10.520 bullshit to give away. I'm gonna be giveaway sleeves and dice, 85 00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:18.000 booster packs, stickers and pre cons and charity stuff because 86 00:04:18.279 --> 00:04:21.839 man Alive it's going down. We got the okay to 87 00:04:22.279 --> 00:04:25.800 not only run the trash anti Commander Tournament through the 88 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:29.160 Face to Face Open or tour stop. Give them the 89 00:04:29.160 --> 00:04:33.319 website tact MTG dot com. 90 00:04:33.000 --> 00:04:34.279 T act MTG. 91 00:04:34.680 --> 00:04:37.079 You can go and learn the rules, and there's a 92 00:04:37.120 --> 00:04:38.639 link to the Face to Face Games where you can 93 00:04:38.680 --> 00:04:41.000 go and register. You can pre register and you can 94 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:44.199 have your deck uploaded online. If you don't, you can 95 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:48.639 register at the event and you pay four event voutures 96 00:04:48.680 --> 00:04:51.360 like like you can you can literally buy a Commander 97 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:55.040 package expecting to play commander and trade your event voutures 98 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:58.279 in to play in the charity tournament, and doing that 99 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:00.680 even donates to charity. 100 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:01.759 It's important. 101 00:05:02.120 --> 00:05:02.920 How cool is that? 102 00:05:03.279 --> 00:05:04.399 It's super super cool. 103 00:05:04.600 --> 00:05:07.680 But this is important because trash Ante has a hard 104 00:05:07.720 --> 00:05:10.480 and fast rule. Your deck has to be worth less 105 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:16.560 than fifty bucks, yes, based on the least expensive printing 106 00:05:16.600 --> 00:05:18.839 of any one card that's present in your deck. 107 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:22.920 And you have to have a deck list to prove it. 108 00:05:23.519 --> 00:05:26.480 So I would say, if you're gonna just show up, 109 00:05:27.279 --> 00:05:29.720 I would have your deck list registered already. 110 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:34.319 I put I built a deck or deck stats or Maxfield, right. 111 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:36.959 I built my deck for last year. 112 00:05:37.079 --> 00:05:40.040 I built two of them to see and when I 113 00:05:40.079 --> 00:05:42.360 went in to make sure that my deck for this 114 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:45.759 year was still good, it wasn't. So I had to 115 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:47.639 make some changes because some of the some of the 116 00:05:47.720 --> 00:05:50.160 values went up. Bello that I'm going to give to 117 00:05:50.199 --> 00:05:52.439 you if you fucking show up and don't have a deck, 118 00:05:52.480 --> 00:05:56.360 it's still good. But the other one, the secret one, 119 00:05:56.560 --> 00:05:59.240 the one you would you will never expect me to 120 00:05:59.240 --> 00:05:59.959 play this one. 121 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:02.759 I don't expect anything from. 122 00:06:02.519 --> 00:06:06.439 You, not anything, not anything. 123 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:15.240 Well like one thing ever, Yeah, what is it? I don't. 124 00:06:15.879 --> 00:06:20.959 It's like three pop cans stacked on top of each other. Yeah, 125 00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:23.920 like those all going down your throat, like those little 126 00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:26.000 explain any of that further. 127 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:29.000 I'm like those little kegs with Don Cherry's sweater on them. 128 00:06:29.079 --> 00:06:31.800 Yes, yeah, like one of those home kegs of Heineken. 129 00:06:32.120 --> 00:06:35.959 We got a self tap Uncle Brando's self tap and porium. 130 00:06:36.120 --> 00:06:39.000 Yeah he's Yeah, he's like a wacky inflatable arm flailing 131 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:41.160 tube man with a keg of Heineken on the end 132 00:06:41.160 --> 00:06:43.879 of it. Oh my god, can you imagine that? 133 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:48.120 No wind storm and a bunch of those a bunch 134 00:06:48.160 --> 00:06:49.360 of what windstorms? 135 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:53.000 Oh, we were thinking about something different, Yes, you were. 136 00:06:52.920 --> 00:06:53.720 Thinking wind sock. 137 00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:55.360 I was thinking when storm? 138 00:06:56.079 --> 00:06:57.279 Yes, yes, yes. 139 00:06:57.279 --> 00:07:00.879 So flood of your yard and your son's swam in it. 140 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:06.439 As everybody here swimming and flooding. There was swimming and flooding. 141 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:07.839 H don't google that. 142 00:07:08.839 --> 00:07:10.600 No, that's fine that you can google that one. Swimming 143 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:13.800 and flooding in Saskatchewan. People are gonna yeah, that's crazy. 144 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:17.160 What I was going to say about the about the 145 00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:21.079 whole trash anti thing is is, yes, have have your 146 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:25.720 deck registered on Moxfield or architect or whatever. I advocated 147 00:07:25.759 --> 00:07:29.839 a little bit for some leniency and and what are 148 00:07:29.879 --> 00:07:32.439 we going to do when people show up? Didn't know 149 00:07:32.519 --> 00:07:35.639 that this was a thing like random face to face 150 00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:38.720 goers might come and say, Hey, I want to do this, 151 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:40.439 I want to donate to charity, I want to play 152 00:07:40.439 --> 00:07:42.920 in command, or I want to win prizes, but I 153 00:07:43.000 --> 00:07:45.959 only have this deck. I would turn people away. This 154 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:48.079 is what I was advocating for, is what happens when 155 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:48.800 this happens. 156 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:50.800 I would love to be the face to face guy 157 00:07:50.839 --> 00:07:53.720 that built the if you just show up to play 158 00:07:54.279 --> 00:07:57.800 decks out of the bulk that face to face has. 159 00:07:58.279 --> 00:07:59.959 Because I'm going to do you one better. 160 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:02.759 And I could speak to to this like because Aiden 161 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:08.040 and Alex and I and g off all built decks 162 00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:12.279 like that were excessively functional. Five klamarown Je Lennard as 163 00:08:12.279 --> 00:08:15.800 well built decks that are really really, really good. It's 164 00:08:15.879 --> 00:08:18.639 just trash, like I think that people think of trash 165 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:20.519 and oh they're gonna play a bunch of shitty comments 166 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:21.560 and your decks are going to suck. 167 00:08:21.800 --> 00:08:25.160 Fuck No, there's turn three decks, there's Turn four decks. 168 00:08:25.240 --> 00:08:29.279 It's very very actually, actually, Jared sink I actually asked me, 169 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:31.639 can I do this and this and this, And he 170 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:34.960 showed me a combo where it's like a lands deck 171 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:37.240 that had ninety some lands in it. And I said, 172 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:41.360 a guy did exactly this deck last year. 173 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:44.720 Yeah, but but here it was all but here's the key. 174 00:08:44.799 --> 00:08:45.840 That deck didn't work. 175 00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:50.360 He got pounded. Yeah, absolutely pounded. 176 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:52.519 It did not work the way that he thought it did. 177 00:08:53.159 --> 00:08:56.159 Yeah. I'll tell you something though. One of the things 178 00:08:56.159 --> 00:08:59.399 we talked about and and this is this is kind 179 00:08:59.399 --> 00:09:01.879 of just a t anty organizational thing. I hope people 180 00:09:01.919 --> 00:09:06.720 find it interesting because it actually ended up being funny 181 00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:09.759 and it shows the strength of our local community and 182 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:13.440 how we're willing to collaborate and build ideas. And we 183 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:16.399 do this lots where we build on each other's ideas 184 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:21.759 to make a better end user experience or listener experience. Right. 185 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:23.440 So I've been here for eight years. 186 00:09:23.759 --> 00:09:28.399 Yeah, So we said, what if somebody shows up and, 187 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:31.919 like you said, bellow or whatever, you have to swap 188 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:34.960 some cards out or sure the maximum dollar value that 189 00:09:34.960 --> 00:09:37.200 a card is worth. There's a card in your deck 190 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:40.159 that supersedes that. You've got a five dollars card, your 191 00:09:40.159 --> 00:09:42.679 commander's six dollars. You got to swap it out whatever, right, 192 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:46.000 my deck's forty one dollars. I got to cut this card. 193 00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:49.960 Yeah right, So we are going to be bringing bulk 194 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:53.200 and trash for you to swap cards out of your 195 00:09:53.240 --> 00:09:57.039 deck for at the registration table. And we were even 196 00:09:57.080 --> 00:10:04.399 brainstormed names last minute led, last minute legends, the swap shop, 197 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:09.840 the clutch, the clutch crate, the bulk bench, oh the 198 00:10:09.919 --> 00:10:17.600 bull like bulk bench, like the trash tank. Oh man, 199 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:22.320 I like the swap shop, I said, fucking legendary. This 200 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:26.799 is exactly what we needed. This is last minute legends, 201 00:10:26.919 --> 00:10:29.080 oh a man. And then Mona White Angel Aaron like 202 00:10:29.120 --> 00:10:31.000 took it a step further and he named a whole 203 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:33.399 bunch of new ones. What the fuck did he say? 204 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:36.200 It's like so many good ones where I'm not even 205 00:10:36.200 --> 00:10:37.879 gonna read them because you have to show up and 206 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:41.519 find out. But there was all these ideas of what 207 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:45.440 we can do and who can contribute and and what 208 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:47.720 do we have to do so when people show up 209 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:51.639 they can just play. And part of that is make 210 00:10:51.720 --> 00:10:56.039 it easy and accessible and and have and fun. Well 211 00:10:56.240 --> 00:10:59.759 well even before the fun, have cash or credit options, 212 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:02.279 make sure that you can pay with event vouchers. You 213 00:11:02.360 --> 00:11:04.399 have them Anyways, if you're registered in the Face to 214 00:11:04.440 --> 00:11:08.720 Face event, Yeah, okay, you've registered. Oh my deck doesn't work, well, 215 00:11:08.840 --> 00:11:11.080 good thing for you. We got the trash tank. Go 216 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:13.519 pick some cards and your colors and fucking make your 217 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:18.120 deck work right. And and there's people who volunteered at 218 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:20.919 registration last year that are unsleeve your shit. 219 00:11:21.080 --> 00:11:23.759 That's important, unslaving crap and let's do it. 220 00:11:23.840 --> 00:11:26.120 There's people who volunteered last year that are willing to 221 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:29.039 sit down with people and say, oh, yeah, this isn't 222 00:11:29.039 --> 00:11:31.159 gonna work, or let's do this, or this is the 223 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:33.919 card here, let's find something help you build your deck right. 224 00:11:34.320 --> 00:11:36.759 And that's the kind of thing that it takes to 225 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:40.799 not only make an event successful, but to build a 226 00:11:40.840 --> 00:11:45.200 culture and to build like a foundation for a community. 227 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:46.559 And that's the kind of shit that we do. 228 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:48.159 And it's unique. 229 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:50.320 This is an event that you're only going to get 230 00:11:50.320 --> 00:11:53.919 to play at Face to Face Saskatoon, not this weekend 231 00:11:54.399 --> 00:11:57.679 that happened two days ago, but this weekend that's coming 232 00:11:57.720 --> 00:11:59.799 up in four days. So if you haven't planned to 233 00:11:59.799 --> 00:12:03.320 come the Saskatoon you should, you should because it's the 234 00:12:03.360 --> 00:12:07.480 only opportunity you get to play in this insane event. 235 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:08.799 Oh man, it was. 236 00:12:09.440 --> 00:12:10.720 If you want to see somebody. 237 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:12.320 Show up with a condom with a bunch of cards 238 00:12:12.320 --> 00:12:17.440 in it, I wonder, now, matime make for a good death? 239 00:12:17.440 --> 00:12:17.720 Blok. 240 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:20.840 We're gonna find out that gonna be your death blok. 241 00:12:21.159 --> 00:12:22.080 I haven't said anything. 242 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:26.720 Just a magnum, just a big frickin' balloon. 243 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:28.279 With a little bit of shit at the end of it. 244 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:30.000 I'm not interested in that. 245 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:35.519 Brando whire cards all crossed together. 246 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:38.000 Shut up, shut up, shut up. 247 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:42.639 That was yesterday's news. 248 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:49.759 That that was this morning's headline. That's right, I said it. 249 00:12:49.799 --> 00:12:53.440 So anyway, I played eight games imagine last night, yep, 250 00:12:53.840 --> 00:12:54.799 and I won five. 251 00:12:55.080 --> 00:12:57.399 That's a six to twenty five win percentage that. 252 00:12:57.399 --> 00:13:00.360 I would make lots of money in the MLB with 253 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:01.519 an average like that. 254 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:04.759 I absolutely I've never experienced that before. 255 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:04.799 Have you. 256 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:08.840 I wanted to say, get better at magic, but if 257 00:13:08.879 --> 00:13:11.000 you won six twenty five percent of your games, get 258 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:11.759 worse at magic? 259 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:14.879 Like in three and a half hours, could you imagine. 260 00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:16.360 Did you just pound? Did you just pound? And the 261 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:16.840 game was over? 262 00:13:17.399 --> 00:13:19.559 Every game was like that, and with the except I'm 263 00:13:19.559 --> 00:13:22.480 gonna all sympathies. 264 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:23.879 Yeah, don't toot your own horn. Here. 265 00:13:23.919 --> 00:13:26.720 All sympathies to our our buddy Ben. He was the 266 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:29.279 only one who didn't get to do the thing in 267 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:31.600 eight games. He did the thing two or three times. 268 00:13:31.639 --> 00:13:32.399 You always hear about that. 269 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:33.679 Right, We're like, yeah, we're gonna. 270 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:35.440 Play a Commander game as long as everybody's deck kind 271 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:37.240 of does the thing and then the game's over. 272 00:13:38.399 --> 00:13:41.159 We've all kind of got the victory. We had fun. 273 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:44.480 Yeah, yeah, we did that eight times in a row. 274 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:49.000 But like every game was over by turn six. It 275 00:13:49.039 --> 00:13:52.200 was like land something lands something lands something lands something 276 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:56.840 lands something lands bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb 277 00:13:56.919 --> 00:13:58.159 Die Die, Die die. 278 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:01.360 It was amazing. It was fucking crazy. 279 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:06.399 Yeah, you know what is Is that better than and 280 00:14:06.480 --> 00:14:08.679 I guess it's a matter of opinion. This is truly 281 00:14:08.759 --> 00:14:10.840 a matter of opinion. And this is one of the 282 00:14:10.879 --> 00:14:13.600 things that's hard for the Commander community to kind of 283 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:16.240 get their head around as a as a whole. Is 284 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:20.679 if you can play eight games, and and that's a 285 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:23.519 lot of games, eight games and hours. Even if we 286 00:14:23.600 --> 00:14:26.399 said six games, that would still be a lot of games. 287 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:28.919 We eight and if you have six to eight games 288 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:33.519 in three hours, or you have two or two and 289 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:36.080 a half games in three hours. 290 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:36.720 Which we've also done. 291 00:14:36.799 --> 00:14:41.200 Yeah, both are fine, and both are both could be 292 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:44.840 an expectation, really yeah, both could. Like, that's the range. 293 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:47.639 You've got three hours, you play two or three games 294 00:14:47.799 --> 00:14:50.120 or six to eight games. Yeah, both of those are 295 00:14:50.159 --> 00:14:54.120 the expectation. That's the range. What side of the slider 296 00:14:54.159 --> 00:14:55.000 do you land on? 297 00:14:55.519 --> 00:14:56.519 That's tricky. 298 00:14:56.759 --> 00:14:59.480 I like landing on the two to three game side 299 00:14:59.480 --> 00:15:03.120 of the slider because to me, that's a little bit 300 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:05.840 of a better story. That gives everybody a little bit 301 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:10.399 of a better chance to do the thing politic jostle 302 00:15:10.480 --> 00:15:15.320 for position, win or sorry, almost win or almost lose, 303 00:15:15.759 --> 00:15:19.519 and then come back or get pounded. It gives everybody 304 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:25.200 the opportunity to experience the entire gambit of what Commander 305 00:15:25.240 --> 00:15:29.159 as a format has to offer. Eight games in three 306 00:15:29.159 --> 00:15:31.039 hours doesn't always do that. 307 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:33.720 Oh absolutely, there was a a couple of them were 308 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:42.159 certainly like, Okay, if you guys play a spell take eight, oh, 309 00:15:42.919 --> 00:15:47.720 turn four, ruin Nation, there's one land that isn't mine 310 00:15:47.799 --> 00:15:49.559 left and everybody scooped. 311 00:15:49.960 --> 00:15:51.840 You were a piece of trash. Oh so there was 312 00:15:51.840 --> 00:15:54.519 a scoop game. There was a scoop game. Okay, there 313 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:57.159 was and there was two school. Hold on, hold on, 314 00:15:57.519 --> 00:15:58.919 this is the other thing I was going to say, 315 00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:01.360 tack this onto what I said, okay, before you started 316 00:16:01.360 --> 00:16:06.080 telling your ruination story. Also, different players are gonna like 317 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:11.720 different parts of the game more. I kind of like 318 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:15.399 untapping best my turn, best turn ye turn two is like, 319 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:17.200 oh fuck, what am I gonna get to do? Right? 320 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:19.879 And it's like land sol ring go right. Some people 321 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:22.559 like that. I also like going my turn, best turn 322 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:25.480 on turn ten and it's like untap my ten lands 323 00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:27.960 and play a thing and cascade, tick up my planes, walker, 324 00:16:28.200 --> 00:16:31.240 do all the bullshit right. So different players are gonna 325 00:16:31.240 --> 00:16:31.799 like different things. 326 00:16:32.200 --> 00:16:35.399 We had the ruination game was exactly what I said 327 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:35.720 it was. 328 00:16:36.039 --> 00:16:40.120 It was like noorn, PingER, PingER, PingER. 329 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:45.600 Something else. Like the game was over before our ruination. 330 00:16:45.679 --> 00:16:46.759 It was very over after. 331 00:16:47.519 --> 00:16:49.840 We also had a game that I had, And again, 332 00:16:49.919 --> 00:16:51.519 this is another one of the ones that I want. 333 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:53.600 You're playing with mature players to know that they're not 334 00:16:53.639 --> 00:16:55.639 gonna be able to come back. Yes, and they're okay 335 00:16:55.679 --> 00:16:56.000 with that. 336 00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:57.759 And they're okay, let's go to the next game. And 337 00:16:57.840 --> 00:17:00.320 this is illustrating how big a piece of trash I am. 338 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:02.799 I had the jinga taxes that flips over into a 339 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:06.440 saga and it draws the cards, draws cards equal to 340 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:07.559 the number of cards in your hand. 341 00:17:07.720 --> 00:17:09.519 We've done a deck on that guy before. That was 342 00:17:09.519 --> 00:17:12.119 an all killer, no Philler, Miller Aiden. 343 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:14.720 Deck, then some kind of horseshit in the middle, and 344 00:17:14.759 --> 00:17:16.720 then you can play all the cards in your head 345 00:17:16.759 --> 00:17:19.759 for free and then flip it over. And I had 346 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:26.359 a thing that represented ka, I'm gonna do this four times, 347 00:17:27.319 --> 00:17:32.359 and they were like, wait what And I was like, yeah, 348 00:17:32.359 --> 00:17:35.200 I'm just I'm gonna I'm gonna draw eighteen cards and 349 00:17:35.240 --> 00:17:37.480 then play nine of them. 350 00:17:38.119 --> 00:17:39.400 Then I'm gonna do it again. 351 00:17:39.599 --> 00:17:44.240 And they were like, okay, yep, this is the universe. 352 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:46.640 That's the universal sign for next game. 353 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:48.319 We'll just do it again. 354 00:17:48.440 --> 00:17:50.799 But it is not even a clap hey, it's just like. 355 00:17:50.720 --> 00:17:56.240 A but that's the thing. Other than those, It's almost 356 00:17:56.279 --> 00:17:57.240 like we all showed up. 357 00:17:57.200 --> 00:18:00.079 To do that though, because like other people get to 358 00:17:59.960 --> 00:18:02.720 do that kind of thing. Also, yes, okay. 359 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:05.079 That's the thing because matters because lots of the time, 360 00:18:05.119 --> 00:18:07.119 and it was like okay, well, yeah, let's scoop it up. 361 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:08.359 It was like, yeah, I was gonna win on my 362 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:10.240 turn and you hear that all the time. Oh, on 363 00:18:10.279 --> 00:18:12.160 my turn, my turn was gonna be so good, but 364 00:18:12.200 --> 00:18:14.440 it was so often like, oh, yeah, I was gonna win. 365 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:15.680 I was going to lock you down. 366 00:18:15.799 --> 00:18:17.680 Yes, that's the mark of a good game. 367 00:18:17.880 --> 00:18:21.440 So we have like eight really fast, really great games 368 00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:25.119 of Commander that were just Yes, that was so fucking cool, 369 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:27.160 and I haven't had that happen in a long time. 370 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:29.839 That's the mark of a good game is Oh, it's 371 00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:32.559 a good thing you killed me because on my turn 372 00:18:32.640 --> 00:18:34.160 I was going to do this. I was gonna blow 373 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:36.640 you out. That's not necessarily a case of still had 374 00:18:36.680 --> 00:18:40.279 all these right, Yeah, it's it's a case of yep, 375 00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:44.440 you either went before me or during your soul ring 376 00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:47.039 or that one land that you got to search for 377 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:51.160 because some bullshit that happened. That's what did it. 378 00:18:51.200 --> 00:18:53.400 When I chaos warped your thing and you happened to 379 00:18:53.440 --> 00:18:55.000 get a land off of it and then use that 380 00:18:55.119 --> 00:18:56.279 land to win, well. 381 00:18:56.319 --> 00:18:58.640 Shit, that's exactly it. And I like magic. 382 00:18:58.960 --> 00:19:01.039 I like that skin of the Teeth variance. I like 383 00:19:01.119 --> 00:19:01.480 that ship. 384 00:19:01.920 --> 00:19:05.519 If you like that ship, I remember, I like the 385 00:19:05.759 --> 00:19:06.839 skin of another kind. 386 00:19:07.319 --> 00:19:14.480 What no, that's buffalo Bill. 387 00:19:15.960 --> 00:19:20.480 We all knew what he was talking about. Cannibal is Yeah, 388 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:27.079 so tomorrow on COMANDIC five O four. Yeah, we're talking 389 00:19:27.119 --> 00:19:29.440 about universes beyond. 390 00:19:29.480 --> 00:19:31.279 We're in the darkest timeline, folks. 391 00:19:31.319 --> 00:19:34.519 We are in of all the universes that we could 392 00:19:34.559 --> 00:19:37.160 all live in, we are in this one. And it's 393 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:40.400 the one that we were warned about. 394 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:44.000 And we even said probably won't happen. But it kind 395 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:44.400 of has. 396 00:19:44.519 --> 00:19:46.480 And I don't think it's as bad as people thought 397 00:19:46.480 --> 00:19:46.960 it was gonna. 398 00:19:47.279 --> 00:19:50.920 It isn't. But which raises the question, are we actually 399 00:19:50.920 --> 00:19:51.720 in that timeline? Then? 400 00:19:51.880 --> 00:19:55.680 Yes, oh, okay, yes we are. We certainly are. 401 00:19:55.759 --> 00:19:58.599