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Speaker 1: Made san Jo, have pace, Sonny sumone on, I hadsion night.

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Speaker 2: Let's have everybody welcome to for crying out loud. Hello, Hi, Stephanie.

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Speaker 3: Hello, let's say to our our fabulous friends real quick.

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We got Ashley, She's so chic. Stephanie's a stinker wrinker Athena.

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We love your dancing and your makeup, your matte lipstick. Sandra,

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it's not easy being green, but you pull it off. Jennifer,

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get up, Aaron, you're a dirty Sanchez. Leslie with the

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coughing like you're like Lynette already Alicias go on from

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the City of bell Monte. Kelly Brant, she's your aunt.

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Rebecca Opener's so cute? Is sexy? And is he still

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a new dad?

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Speaker 2: These guys a little baby.

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Speaker 3: I saw a picture of them and Missy and Gabby.

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They're up to no good. Katerina, check that Moler, Valerie

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Bba Fenwick. Hets it out of the park, Polly. We

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love your pancakes. Rita. We love your Basinette, and we

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think it's so sweet that you rock Elizabeth Williamson's kids

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because she's got a lot. Nikki call your girl. Katie's

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rolling on e Kelly Latti do and Dick is frolicking.

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Whoo whoo whoop.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna have to fill me in on that Dick

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is frolicking.

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Speaker 3: His name is Richard Frolicker. So we've we came up

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with that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I like it. I'm all for it. Just brings

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up mental images that I didn't maybe needed this hour.

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Speaker 2: My dad's name was Dick Paradise. That was my dad's name,

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and he had that answering machine outgoing message that said,

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Dick Paradise here say your word is very important to me.

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Just leave a message and I'll get right back to you.

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My friends would make fun of me all the time. Sorry,

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I still have a little bit of residual.

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Speaker 4: I'm Dick. What a great name. What what era did

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he go to high school in?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Well he was born in the thirties, so.

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Speaker 4: So he would have gone to school in the late forties.

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Yeah all right, I just can you imagine going through

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high school as Dick Paradise, I went to the I

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went to Somebody out there can say they went to

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the they went to the problem with Tick Paradise. I know, right,

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that's somebody who needs a podcast.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, maybe This is a little early in

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the show to bring something like this up. But remember

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like the porn written porn that you and I used

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to read when we were young, like yeah, Nancy Friday

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books like sexual fantasy stuff. Seemed like a lot of

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the people, like the men were named Dick and not

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in a like pornographic way, but it was just like

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from the era from that arau. My name is Dick,

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you know, the like Penthouse, right, like my wife Vivian

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or whatever. And it was always he's like old fashioned

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Nick and Vivian.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And Helen is my mom's name, and it was

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hell in Paradise, and that's my middle name, Lynnette Hell

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in Paradise.

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Speaker 4: I' Dick Paradise. It's happier. It's happier than Hell in Paradise.

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It's less conflicted and ironic.

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Speaker 3: It's definitely a porn name, right, you don't think of

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it as you know, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And he was just an advertising executive at a TV station.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He worked at Metromedia in Los Angeles, which later became

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Channel eleven Fox. And he worked at kt LA in

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Channel nine in the in the promos promo department.

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Speaker 4: Back in those days. That was a good living.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and he used to take me on

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the set of One Day at a Time.

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Speaker 3: Really and happy days.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Valerie Burton, Ellie and the nicest man in entertainment.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I know, really sweet.

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Speaker 3: We forgot to tell you that John Taylor from Duran

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Durana is still is sitting in the right If you

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listen to Tuesday, then you would know it.

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Speaker 4: I figured I was getting away with something. People who

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just think that Caylen's voice had gotten more annoying.

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Speaker 2: Oh, and that's Kaylin's last last show for now.

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Speaker 3: He'll be Yeah, we'll see you.

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Speaker 5: You'll see me. I'll be around.

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Speaker 4: Just so people know the logistics. They all share a

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studio and they will see each other coming and going,

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and Kaylen will be able to guess so that you

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can keep up on his exploits.

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Speaker 3: And so, yes, of course you're.

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Speaker 4: Not losing Kaylen. He's just he's going to be right.

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He's going to be in the time slot right after Haylen.

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Speaker 3: What is going on with the girls? Give us, give

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us some updates. You don't really talk about it enough.

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Speaker 5: Well, I really want to teach them how to swim.

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That's kind of my thing, like, we gotta get him

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into some swim lessons and teach him how to swim.

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Aila is going into soccer again, but Blake hasn't gotten

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in yet.

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Speaker 3: What do you mean?

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Speaker 5: Like she's on like a waitlist and I was on

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a waitlist too, but Ila got in but Blake didn't.

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So I think the plan is if Blake doesn't get in,

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then Amy's going to be a coach. Oh, so that

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way they could both play, which she does not want

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to do. I don't blame her, she's thinking about doing that.

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Speaker 3: Well, how long do like, is the weightlist going to

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go on?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 3: What are the chances is? I mean, is this like

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getting off the waitlist at UCLA? Are the chances good?

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I mean, I look got off the weightlist,

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so I thought they were pretty good. But Blake is

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still and Blake didn't even really seem to like it

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as much as Ila. But yeah, if I was doing something,

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Blake definitely wants. She just wants to do whatever I

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was doing. So yeah, and then next week they're graduating

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or the week after I got their graduations to go to.

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Speaker 3: So then we'll Lake be going into kindergarten. Yeah, Okay,

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and then Islave will be going into first grade.

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Speaker 2: M hm, oh my gosh.

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Speaker 4: And swim lessons this summer. Yeah, just as a bit

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of a callback, how cold did you think you would

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like to learn to swim in?

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Speaker 5: It's actually art. Our neighbor across the street has said like,

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oh yeah, bring your girls over any time to go swimming.

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And it's not heated, so that's going to be cool.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll raise champions. Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: Let me let me tell let me warn you against something.

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Speaking of grit, which we talked about on our.

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Speaker 4: Patriarch years old, grit.

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Speaker 3: Talking about grit. So one thing that I did with

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my kids because a lot of people told me to

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do it and was water Whispers. And this is a warning.

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This is a p A p s A. If you will.

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Maybe this has worked for some people, but water whispers

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does it where they there they are instilling grit in

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your kids. They're like, you're going to do this, this

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is just what's happening. You don't give them a choice.

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They need to learn to swim for safety reasons. And

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there will be crying kind of like there will be blood.

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There will be crying, there will be tears. They warn

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you against it. They're like, you know, you just adults

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have to have grit to you got to watch your kids.

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they guarantee it. You know, right, it's fucking traumatizing, and

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I'm going to tell you that, yes they did learn.

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they're gonna they do it within like it's like a

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certain amount of weeks and then they will swim afterwards.

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water and then they have to go pick up like

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a ring, and then by the end of it they're

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going to jump off a diving board and then they're

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going to swim to the side of the pool, so

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you know they're safe. What they don't tell you though,

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is that with some kids, yeah, they can do it,

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and then they will never want to do it again

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because they hated the experience so much. Both Elbie never

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did that. So Elbie took regular gentle swimming lessons where

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they do little things first and then they hold you

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and they help you learn how to swim. And she

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never had a problem. And I always loved the water.

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pretty young, like your age. The Water Whispers took them

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to Water Whispers before they were going to like summer camp,

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so that they could swim in the especially Sadie because

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she was so so little at the time. We wanted

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her to be able to go to like camp fun time, yeah,

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and be in the even in the waiting. They had

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like one pool that was only like four feet deep,

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we did Water Whispers. Guess what. She refused to go

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in the pool during swim time. She wanted nothing to

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do with swimming with pools. They were traumatized and it

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took years afterwards for them to and you know, we're

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remember who taught him how to swim was Julie. Julie's

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daughter was Bella Bella, Bella Julie's daughter, and Elbe taught

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the girls how to swim.

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Speaker 4: In Bella's pool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they taught well, I think they were working with

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Sophie too, and and and Sadie and then Xander was

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already like a little bit more adventurous about it, a

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little bit more at by that time. But they like

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taught them how to swim and it was much nicer

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and much gentler, and I feel like we threw away money.

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Speaker 4: We need to pause for a spot from our new sponsor,

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water Whisperers in a pool near you.

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Speaker 3: I would turn them down. I'm not that much more,

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not for everybody.

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Speaker 4: It's about scale because water Whispers you can have one

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instructor teaching five kids at once, and LB we had

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we had to take one on one swim lessons and

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that guy can't scale. Water whisper chisophers.

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Speaker 3: They give you one, they get one teacher.

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Speaker 4: But I could have sworn how many.

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Speaker 3: Kids one to one?

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Speaker 2: One to one?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's a bunch of there's a bunch

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of them in the pool, but there's one with your kid.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: In fact, it's the opposite because Elbe had one guy,

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his name was Greg Remember, I remember he was crazy stoner.

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Speaker 2: Of course, and he would have like five.

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Speaker 3: Or six kids in his class. But they're just they're

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they're just gentler with them, and he was take them

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out one at a time and like float them around. No,

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water Whispers was like throwing them in. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom threw me into when I was little.

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I just remember having that headache you know, when you

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suck in water and he goes up your nose, you

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that headache. I just associated that headache with my mom

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in the pool. So anytime my mom was in the pool,

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I didn't want to get in the pool. But if

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my dad, Dick Paradise, was in the pool, that was

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all for it. Because my dad would just hang out

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and just like, you know, be very gentle with me.

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Because my mom was the hard ass she would like

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throw me in, she grab me, pull me, smack me.

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Speaker 3: My dad was like very gentle and sweet.

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Speaker 4: Well find out, Paradise. He liked a warm pool.

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Speaker 2: Is very warm, Yes he did, that's right. Yes, he

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kept it warm, and he liked to have his glass

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of beer.

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Speaker 3: We'd come home from work.

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Speaker 2: He'd have a glass of beer and sit on the

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front step, on the top step while I did my

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little swimming. And no headache, No problem, no problem. Oh

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not not with my mom. Anytime now I get water

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up my nose, I think of my mom.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she'd still grit right and good memories.

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Speaker 2: All she needed to do was put make that pool cold.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So Kailin, what I'm saying is like maybe higher

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like a local, like teenager who teaches swim lessons and

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have him come to your neighbor's pool and.

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Speaker 5: Like, yeah, we did that at two years ago and

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it didn't work out very well. But yeah, we do

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plan to just hire somebody.

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Speaker 3: I do remember, Wait, didn't you do the water whispers

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YMCA and and they did. They tried like one or

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Speaker 2: Really, but how were how old were they because don't

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Speaker 2: Babies you could teach, but I heard that they don't

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really know how to swim until they're like four or five.

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Speaker 3: So what else for the summer?

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planning to go to that comic con because my dad

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does all those different comic cons and that's the big one.

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you know, I want to promote the podcast, but I'm busy.

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a long time and stuff. So I was like, Okay,

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I'll go. And I had these cards made up that

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takes you to the podcast page and it worked very well.

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a podcast, and my dad liked He's like, all right,

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well let's get you down to the San Diego one.

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find something to do for Saturday, stay there, go to

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the zoo on Sunday. So yeah, that's kind of like our.

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Speaker 3: Wait, so you're gonna drive back and forth the first

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Speaker 5: Well, because I don't think they can get me a

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hotel room for all the days, so I'll just drive

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Speaker 4: I drive.

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Speaker 5: I'm in the car an hour and a half every day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, two ways. San Diego is far though, it's better

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than from a Yeah, it's probably about two hours maybe, yeah,

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about two hours. You're gonna take them to the zoo

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down there. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: They got the pandits back there, so they're gonna be

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very excited about about not SeaWorld. I hate SeaWorld. We

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Speaker 4: It sucked. Yeah, well SeaWorld sucks controversial.

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Speaker 5: Now Lego Land is great. I you know a lot

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of people we should take I go go to Lego Land.

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It's like it's cheaper than Disneyland. You're gonna get on

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all the rides. It's not too big, like you can

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do the whole park. We do Lego Land. But we

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and it was grimy, and they're like they l booze

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like every like ten feet at Sea World. It's like

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people are just getting drunk at.

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Speaker 4: The trauma of watching a train or get I know, you.

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Speaker 5: Feel bad for all the dolphins and the whales, and

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I was like, you know what, if this place sucks,

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we're not coming back here.

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Speaker 3: So like circuses have banned having elephants, it's regulated now,

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But what SeaWorld.

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Speaker 4: There's a big controversial.

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Speaker 5: I think they're not allowed like new ones they're getting

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to They go like, okay, well their whole life has

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been in this tank, so we can't release them into

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the wild. They're just gonna die. So we're just going

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to keep the ones that we have, not get new ones,

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and then that'll be bad.

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Speaker 2: But didn't the La Zoo recently we're supposed to take

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these elephants.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and then they were supposed.

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Speaker 2: To send them to a sanctuary San Diego?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Was it San Diego?

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Speaker 4: Was LA they moved him to the San Diego Zoo

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or is it Arizona?

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Speaker 5: I think it was a different state.

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Speaker 4: I remember saying that it might have been to Arizona.

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Speaker 2: When they moved them out in the middle of the night.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I saw the tail end of the controversy,

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and I know that the LA Zoo they up down

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insideways that kept saying, you know, we did we were

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going to send them to a sanctuary. But on the end,

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and I know a lot of zoos. The big thing

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is we consulted with the National Association of Zoos and

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Refuges and they are refuge and they they said that

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this was more they need twenty four hour care and

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that wouldn't happen. I mean, who knows if that's the case,

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but that was their that was their answer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really sad. Elephants, especially because they're very like

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I think they you know, they have this family feel.

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If there's a you know, one of them is getting

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taken away, they get upset or.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean they've got an emotional memory that

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they've tested it where you know, people have rescued elephants

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as little elephants and then they come back forty years

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later and the elephant looks like it's gonna charge this

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range rover and kill it, and it turns out it's

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spotted this old gray remnant of this person that rescued them.

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But they recognized. I mean, who knows whether these are

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deceptively edited youtubes that I fall for, but they've seen them.

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Speaker 3: But like the ones with gorillas, I know, can you

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I dare you not to cry watching those ones where

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the rescuers go back after like twenty twenty five years

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and see the gorillas and they come running over and

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put their arms around them.

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Speaker 4: That was a different era stuff. Now in this new

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harder social darwinisim era, it's one hundred former rescuers attack

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the gorilla to see is it do you do? You

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put your money on the hundred former rescuers or the

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gorilla to win.

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Speaker 3: They it's sad, you know, those rescuers did not instill grit.

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No gorillas.

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Speaker 4: Well, the big thing is make sure it's a gorilla

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not a chimp, because.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Jim chimp wi fuck you up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Dick, Paradise is glad you never met a chick

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now because it would not have You would have needed

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a name change.

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Speaker 2: You guys should Did you never watch chimp World or

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whatever it was on HBO or Razy?

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Speaker 3: Did you watch it? I did.

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Speaker 4: We've watched a lot of chimps. We watched a lot

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of chimp talks in our time. We've seen recreations of

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all the chimp horrors working of a ficionados.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that one story I'll just never It's like,

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if you've seen a horror movie when you're too young. Yeah,

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and it just never leaves your head. That story of

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that woman she was on Obrah.

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Speaker 4: Yes, she went over to a neighbor's house was who

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was raising a chimp, And it's the identical story to

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the couple who raised a chimp in La until it

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got to about twenty eight and was too big because

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it wasn't having sex with anything and it was just angry.

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They had to take it to a sanctuary. And a

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year later they took it a birthday cake, and six

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other chimps saw that chimp number one was getting a

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cake and they got loose and they took a part

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the guy of the couple who had surrendered the chimp,

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and they just basically took his nose fingers.

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Speaker 3: He's junk off, right, he died right.

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Speaker 4: I don't member.

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Speaker 3: And then woman got attacked as well.

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Speaker 4: Though, Yeah, and her face just is this flat insane.

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Speaker 3: But then the story, the original story though, is the

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woman who the lady raised the chimp from a really

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young age and she shouldn't have had it anymore. It

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had already at one point let itself out of the

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back of her car and like ran into ran around

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in traffic and was like trying to attack.

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Speaker 4: People, held up a seven eleven, held up.

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Speaker 3: A seven to eleven. But then the woman's friend came

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over and it just the chimp like destroyed her. Yeah,

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and that woman is still alive. She has no face,

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I know. And your fingers are toes.

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Speaker 2: She the woman that raised the chimp. She's like you

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can hear on tape, like shoot him. Yeah, she wanted

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them to kill It's so sole thing is just so

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sad and.

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Speaker 4: The moral ofless stories. Gorillas are much kinder. They're herbivores,

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and chimps are like omnivores and they will eat you

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and kill you and get But gorillas just do not

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want to mess with humans, and they will if you're

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in Uganda, they'll make their way unless they feel like

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their families, they will go off in the other direction.

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I feel like.

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Speaker 3: They've spend stories about like a little like babies or

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kids that have fallen into like gorilla enclosures, and then

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the gorilla's coming surround, right and try to like take

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care of it and give it back to.

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Speaker 4: The till the zoo keeper shoots the thing right right.

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Speaker 5: I think we talked about this last time.

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Speaker 4: You're here.

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Speaker 5: But did you ever watch Chimp Empire on Netflix?

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Speaker 4: You told me about that. I haven't seen it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you have seen it, John Empire, Yes, we have

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seen it.

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Speaker 4: Is that what they start in MLM?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What the hell?

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Speaker 5: It's a great documentary that you know, they cover like

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two different chimp like tribes or whatever, and like the

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it's just it's all about the chimps. But it's really interesting.

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It's narrated by Marsha Ali. Yeah, and but yeah, at

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one point they talk about how like chimp's favorite thing

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to do is to go hunting from monkeys and they

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don't need to they don't need they don't need to

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eat the monkeys. They have the fruit, but they like

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to do it for sport. They hunt the monkeys and

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they rip them apart.

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Speaker 4: And eat them. Yeah, it's it's it's even scarier though,

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when you do the the onboarding with your chimp MLM

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and your box gets there and like three angry chimps

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get out and you need to sell them to nine

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other gymps. It's just and that's when you feel like Jesus, oh.

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Speaker 5: No, SeaWorld, No, you guys are gonna land. Yes, it's

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been years since we took them to the San Diego Zoo,

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so we're looking forward to that one as well.

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Speaker 3: And so are we supposed to Not like, are zoo's

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bad now too?

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Speaker 4: Not? Not really, I mean and even I mean elephants

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in zoos. It's a little problematic, but it's not like circuses.

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Circuses was torture zoos, you know, they don't have enough habitat,

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00:23:27,519 --> 00:23:29,839
but it's a it's a step down in terms of

472
00:23:30,279 --> 00:23:33,920
the hardship. But and you've got a lot of you've

473
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,920
got a lot of things that live longer in zoos.

474
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,119
But again you have to wonder about quality of life.

475
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,160
But they're you know there, it's less egregious than circus.

476
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean zoos. I just remember when I took

477
00:23:47,519 --> 00:23:48,799
the kids to the zoo all the day. It was

478
00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:52,640
a lot of birds. There's like the birds sanctuary. Then

479
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,319
you have the like the reptile pavilion, so you got

480
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,839
all the reptiles and all the weirdo things in there.

481
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,160
Hated that, and then there's like the spider There's all

482
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,759
different kinds of things now at the zoo a.

483
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 3: Little like a literal cockroach exhibit in there, which it's like,

484
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,720
just go to any New York apartment right New York,

485
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,960
flip on the lights and there's your exhibit right there.

486
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 4: It's free, and that's why you pay. But I mean,

487
00:24:18,519 --> 00:24:21,160
we've been talking about raising kids with grit. What about

488
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,240
you know when you go to the tiger exhibit and

489
00:24:23,279 --> 00:24:26,279
you really go to one that's not updated and you

490
00:24:26,319 --> 00:24:29,400
throw rocks at them, and then the tigers get out

491
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,079
of there and they chase the.

492
00:24:31,559 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 5: I have seen Have you seen those like tug of

493
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,839
war things that they have and tiger enclosures that would

494
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:36,160
be fun.

495
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,599
Speaker 4: I did a show for Animal Planet once where we

496
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,000
talked about, you know, tigers and lions and leopards on

497
00:24:42,039 --> 00:24:45,839
the loose in America. They're actually more tigers privately owned

498
00:24:45,839 --> 00:24:48,000
in America than they are in the wild. People don't

499
00:24:48,039 --> 00:24:51,559
realize that. But the crazy thing, though, is if you

500
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,160
because there's a famous story where a couple of kids

501
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,640
were baiting a tiger and I can't I want to

502
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,319
say the zoo was in California, but it was probably

503
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,160
somewhere else, but it was in the States, and somebody

504
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,240
they were throwing it and throwing it, and this tiger

505
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,640
enclosure had already been cited by the Zoo Association for

506
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,559
being four feet lower than the standard, and they kept

507
00:25:13,559 --> 00:25:16,839
doing it. And this tiger leaps up and is able

508
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,319
to pull himself out. He just goes berserk after and

509
00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:22,799
he malls, but doesn't kill one of the kids that

510
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,839
was throwing it at him. But think about how much

511
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,799
grit that would still in your kids if they had

512
00:25:27,839 --> 00:25:32,559
to fight a tiger or even like a cheetah. Maybe

513
00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:34,640
start him with a cheetah or a leopard.

514
00:25:34,319 --> 00:25:35,799
Speaker 3: Something else, smaller street.

515
00:25:36,839 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 4: That's pure grit.

516
00:25:38,319 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 5: Just not a chump.

517
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 4: That's not fair. I don't start.

518
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,599
Speaker 3: The tell them about working on a lion on the loose.

519
00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 4: That was a while ago. That was the Animal Planet

520
00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:51,920
show that I did for Discovery, and it was, you know,

521
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,720
it was it was one of these things where we

522
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,279
built it. There was a a piece of security videotape

523
00:25:57,279 --> 00:26:03,519
in Milwaukee that had shown the outline of what looked

524
00:26:03,519 --> 00:26:11,519
to be a female African lioness walking through a neighborhood

525
00:26:11,559 --> 00:26:17,000
in Milwaukee, and this created a huge amount amount of terror.

526
00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:21,119
And so you know, as these things, it takes a

527
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,720
while to sell the show and it takes so it's

528
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,079
finally I get hired to produce this show. But it's

529
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:32,759
eleven months after the video had come out. So I

530
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:37,039
ended up going up to Milwaukee. I hired this again.

531
00:26:37,079 --> 00:26:39,599
It's a it's a I the most amazing one of

532
00:26:39,599 --> 00:26:41,559
the most amazing people I've ever met in my life.

533
00:26:41,839 --> 00:26:45,480
A guy named Rory Young was this and I wanted

534
00:26:45,519 --> 00:26:48,319
to make it as legitimate as possible. So I went

535
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,519
through all of you know, the research of who are

536
00:26:50,519 --> 00:26:56,160
the great you know, lion trackers in the world, and

537
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,519
there's a guy named Rory Young who was, you know,

538
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:05,559
an African wildlife interdiction specialist, and he had grown up

539
00:27:05,599 --> 00:27:08,799
he'd been in the French Foreign Legion, and he'd grown

540
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:13,000
up in Zimbagwe and with the lions, and he'd been

541
00:27:13,839 --> 00:27:18,039
a forest ranger in Africa, and then he had become

542
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,759
His real main thing in life was trying to protect

543
00:27:21,799 --> 00:27:26,200
elephants from poachers, because poaching is massive and it's a

544
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,240
big business because it funds civil wars and anyway. But

545
00:27:30,319 --> 00:27:33,319
he was known as one of the greatest living big

546
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:39,000
cat trackers, so I negotiated to fly him from Africa.

547
00:27:39,319 --> 00:27:42,519
It was interesting. He moved his family to Holland because

548
00:27:43,079 --> 00:27:45,359
the poachers in Africa put a price on his head

549
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,079
and his family's head when they were living in Zimbagwa.

550
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,160
So we moved them to Holland. But he still operated

551
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,160
out of Holland into and he was in country about

552
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,880
nine months a year. Anyhow, I flew him to Milwaukee

553
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,759
and we spent a week going back on trying to

554
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:06,960
re access the trail of this cat eleven months after

555
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,000
and after a whole winter. It was hard, but he

556
00:28:09,079 --> 00:28:12,839
was brilliant. We went through and again we found some

557
00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:15,680
skulls and some things, and it was, you know, it

558
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,440
was we went all the way through the hour going

559
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,839
you know, and showing. We did all of these side

560
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,759
stories with video and interviews of you know, there's an

561
00:28:23,799 --> 00:28:27,920
epidemic of people owning African lions and tigers and leopards

562
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,720
in their backyards and it's legal in thirty eight states.

563
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,640
And this really could be an African lion because of

564
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,720
so many nim nubs who actually think, and you know,

565
00:28:38,079 --> 00:28:41,000
while we were in production on this, the Santa Monica

566
00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:45,640
Fire Department discovered a live tiger in the backyard in

567
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,839
Santa Monica. So if you think it's that remote.

568
00:28:48,599 --> 00:28:48,839
Speaker 3: Wow.

569
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,119
Speaker 4: But in any case, we went up and we did

570
00:28:53,119 --> 00:28:55,440
this hole through the whole show. We kept cutting back

571
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,759
and forth between our we ended up ended up seventy

572
00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:04,000
miles north in the in Milwaukee, and it ended up

573
00:29:04,039 --> 00:29:09,000
being you know, he finally was able to fairly conclusively

574
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,119
determine that it was just a huge mountain lion that

575
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,039
had wandered down from the escarpment. But it gave us

576
00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:17,200
a chance to track this thing all the way through

577
00:29:17,319 --> 00:29:22,799
urban urban Minnesota and the Discovery Channel. You know, since

578
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:25,240
there was a possibility that we would face a live

579
00:29:25,319 --> 00:29:30,559
African lion, we had to be going through Milwaukee with

580
00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:32,799
with armed guards who had a big enough gun to

581
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,519
stop an African lion, which is, you can't stop an

582
00:29:35,519 --> 00:29:39,960
African lion with a with a thirty caliber, you know, Winchester.

583
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,680
It needs to be at least a three thirty eight,

584
00:29:43,319 --> 00:29:45,519
or it needs to be a really large caliber. So

585
00:29:45,559 --> 00:29:48,960
we had to have these armed guys going with us,

586
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,960
and it was you know, it was just it was

587
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,920
kind of crazy, and we ended up you know, in

588
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:02,680
way way north in state parks, going into caves in

589
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,799
the middle of the night where you could see that

590
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,680
a big cat had wintered and there were dead skills,

591
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,039
and we'd be there with a thermal. We'd try to

592
00:30:10,039 --> 00:30:11,480
make it look as scary as it was, but it

593
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,759
genuinely was because we're going in at eleven o'clock at

594
00:30:14,839 --> 00:30:17,599
night into this big cat cave and you're like, Okay,

595
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,640
probably they're not here this time of year. But if

596
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,680
they are, we've got these thermal detectors going ahead of us,

597
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,519
so we don't. But it was. But the big thing

598
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,680
was meeting this guy who had been It was just

599
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,480
a he put himself out there, and he put himself

600
00:30:32,599 --> 00:30:36,079
you know, he was His big thing was training African

601
00:30:37,599 --> 00:30:42,480
forest rangers to detect and stop the poachers safely, because

602
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,640
the poachers would go around with you know, assault weapons

603
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,200
and drones. And the worst part of it was, I

604
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,839
mean this guy just I just he was. I mean,

605
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,359
he had never this is only the second time he'd

606
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,000
been in the US. And he could tell me whoever

607
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:05,400
Senator was. He had taught himself US history and a

608
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,240
couple of years after we wrapped the special and I

609
00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:11,640
kept in touch with him, and he was killed by

610
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,599
poachers in Bikina Fascio and in in Africa and it

611
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,240
was just the worst. He was just the most heroic

612
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,000
noble guy had ever met in thirty years of TV.

613
00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:27,599
And he was ambushed by a bunch of poachers on

614
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,519
dirt bikes and they came up next to his car

615
00:31:31,759 --> 00:31:36,000
and they just throttled it and killed him and three

616
00:31:36,039 --> 00:31:38,480
other people in the car. And it's to this day

617
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,680
just still Rory Young, amazing guy.

618
00:31:42,079 --> 00:31:46,319
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what a story. Yeah, oh my, that's horrible.

619
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,759
Speaker 3: Can we see that special? It's find it.

620
00:31:50,759 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 4: It's still I think you can still get it on

621
00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:57,200
Apple TV if you put I think I believe that

622
00:31:57,319 --> 00:32:01,160
Animal Planet added an extra I think it's urban Predator

623
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,920
lying on the loose, okay, but the real the star

624
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,720
of the show is he's a He's a bald headed

625
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:14,480
dutch Man just I mean, the most extraordinary guy ever. Wow,

626
00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:17,319
Rory Young, I'd like.

627
00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 3: To see that, Kaylin.

628
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 5: You into stuff like that, uh, like nature documentary type stuff.

629
00:32:24,759 --> 00:32:28,160
I used to be, but I don't watch much anymore. Yeah.

630
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,279
I used to love like Blue Planet, Planet Earth's back

631
00:32:31,319 --> 00:32:32,599
in the day.

632
00:32:32,839 --> 00:32:35,279
Speaker 4: They still, I mean, the BBC still puts out the

633
00:32:35,359 --> 00:32:38,519
old fashioned big ones, which is nice. Yeah, it doesn't

634
00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:42,720
seem to be the you know, the younger demographic, don't

635
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,920
you know, they don't sit down to watch an eight

636
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:49,319
hour IMAX quality nature special anymore.

637
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a lot of like nature shows that Netflix

638
00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:54,720
put out. I remember last year at some point I

639
00:32:54,799 --> 00:32:56,920
was I was on Mushrooms and I was like, I

640
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,240
don't know what to watch, and I was like, I'm

641
00:32:58,279 --> 00:33:00,240
gonna watch this nature show. And I just sat there

642
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,359
and watched like six hours of a nature's pretty cool.

643
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 4: That's when you Discovery champ Empire, all right.

644
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 5: It was like, these nature shows are great?

645
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,319
Speaker 3: What was the big the one we all watched when

646
00:33:09,359 --> 00:33:11,240
we were kids. Was it The Wonderful.

647
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 4: Mutual of Omaha Wild Kingdom with Wild Kingdom? Yeah, with

648
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,480
Marlon Perkins and Jim Fowler.

649
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,079
Speaker 3: Oh my god. I don't think I ever watched.

650
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 4: It was mutual, Lomaha sponsored it, and it was it

651
00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:28,759
was an early syndicated show, so it wasn't on any

652
00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:31,559
particular network. It was always on your local channel. And

653
00:33:31,599 --> 00:33:33,559
it had this guy. He had to be I mean,

654
00:33:33,599 --> 00:33:35,680
I'm going to say he's eighty. He was probably sixty,

655
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,759
but he was white haired with a mustache and always

656
00:33:38,839 --> 00:33:42,759
wore the camos. But he was really too old to

657
00:33:42,799 --> 00:33:45,440
be doing what he was doing. So they brought they

658
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,480
brought an assistant. One of the assistants I think was

659
00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:50,680
Jim Fowler, who then went on to Tonight, but I'm

660
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,319
not sure. He always had a younger assistant, and so

661
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,319
you'd always have, you know, Marlon Perkins would sit back

662
00:33:56,359 --> 00:33:59,880
and the helicopter while Jim would go down to the

663
00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:02,440
to the hippo layer and almost get mauled until they

664
00:34:02,519 --> 00:34:05,119
fly Jim off on the skid of the chopper and

665
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,199
Marlin's just up going. You can see that the elephant

666
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,199
is a formidable beast and Jim's like missing a leg.

667
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,440
But it was. It was. I remember when I was

668
00:34:14,519 --> 00:34:17,599
six seven years old, you would watch in where I

669
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:20,360
grew up, you know, Mutual of Omaha would be on

670
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,480
at seven, and then The Wide World of Disney would

671
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:22,920
be on at eight.

672
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,039
Speaker 3: Wide World of Disney. Yes, yes, yes, well I remember that.

673
00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 2: But maybe the other show you're talking about was more

674
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,800
of an East coast it was. I don't know.

675
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 4: I think it was nationwide, but it wasn't.

676
00:34:32,559 --> 00:34:35,679
Speaker 3: It wasn't any It was Sunday Night's Sunday Night Television.

677
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,199
Speaker 4: It would but if that was on your your local.

678
00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:42,119
Speaker 3: The Disney One, The Wonderful world Wide World of Disney

679
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,920
and The Mutual of Omaha. Yep, I think I was

680
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,840
allowed to watch both of those, which was like a

681
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:47,280
big deal.

682
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you watch Trafficked and it's on like one

683
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,519
of the Discovery networks.

684
00:34:55,039 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 4: Oh with what's her name? Yeah, she's my Facebook friend Maria. Yes, yeah, no, no, no,

685
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,679
she's uh I think she might be Dutch, but she

686
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,519
lives in the States. Yeah, I've I saw the first

687
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,519
cycle of that. I haven't seen it since.

688
00:35:10,639 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 2: She has like a couple of seasons now she has

689
00:35:13,159 --> 00:35:16,719
one bad ass investigative report.

690
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, and she's a mom with like three kids too.

691
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: It's insane some of the places that she goes because

692
00:35:22,519 --> 00:35:27,960
each episode is called Trafficked, and each episode is different. Yes,

693
00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:32,639
like she'll interview uh real life uh hitman.

694
00:35:33,159 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 3: You know that there.

695
00:35:33,679 --> 00:35:35,519
Speaker 4: Are always they're always in.

696
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 2: Shadow and that yes they're like yeah, they're wearing masks.

697
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,039
Or she'll go to like the you know, into the

698
00:35:42,159 --> 00:35:46,000
jungles in the Colombian hills and she'll interview like, you know,

699
00:35:46,119 --> 00:35:50,000
drug traffickers, or she'll but the one that was sticking

700
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,800
out in my mind is she went and uh, she

701
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,519
went undercover with poachers of people that were like poaching

702
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,199
certain animals, and then you know, like she's not supposed

703
00:36:01,199 --> 00:36:04,800
to have cameras, like it's danger it's really dangerous. And

704
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,880
she goes in some of these territories of all over

705
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,039
the world and it's just insane.

706
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 3: It's fascinating.

707
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:16,159
Speaker 2: It's like a couple of seasons and each episode is different. Marianavenzella,

708
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,119
that's it, Yes, Mariana. And what it's on like one

709
00:36:20,159 --> 00:36:22,960
of the Discovery networks. You can go to like Hulu

710
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,960
and look for it. Yeah, it's called Trafficked. Yeah, it's amazing.

711
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:33,039
Speaker 3: Unfortunately Hulu. We pay for Hulu, but Elbe is the

712
00:36:33,039 --> 00:36:36,719
only one who can access Hulu because you need to

713
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,440
re log in. She originally bought it, but then she

714
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,360
doesn't have a job, so she can't pay for it.

715
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,800
So we're paying for it. But I'm like, but you

716
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,800
have to make sure that we can access it from

717
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,519
our TV. So she did it first once and then

718
00:36:50,559 --> 00:36:55,199
it went away. Now we can't, I know, and I

719
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,920
keep I keep telling her, okay, Elby, please, and she's like, yes,

720
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,760
it's on my laptop. Let me just go back to

721
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,800
school and I'll get it for you yeah, and then

722
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:10,519
she had, Yeah, it's really hard when your kids don't

723
00:37:10,559 --> 00:37:12,559
have I know I said that I brought this up

724
00:37:12,639 --> 00:37:16,199
last week, but man Ilbie wants to still be living

725
00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:20,280
her life, which I do understand, Like you're you shouldn't

726
00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:24,239
going to college. Shouldn't be like, yes, you're going to

727
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,800
be a starving college student, but it shouldn't mean that

728
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,599
you can't do anything and watch all your roommates going

729
00:37:29,639 --> 00:37:31,719
and enjoying their lives and like you can't go out

730
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,880
dinner with you know, But it's really hard because it's

731
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,239
like you're having to pay for their lifestyle. Yes, when

732
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:42,000
they don't work job yea, which she is. I mean

733
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,079
she's looking for a job. She's actively chrying, but like

734
00:37:45,679 --> 00:37:48,440
it is a little bit hard because I I know

735
00:37:48,559 --> 00:37:50,840
she doesn't want to just have something that is just

736
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,800
minimum wage. She does that now, tours at school. But

737
00:37:56,079 --> 00:37:57,960
it's hard because you're not going to make a bank

738
00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:01,800
over the summer by working by making seventeen dollars an hour, right, Yeah,

739
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:02,000
I know.

740
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 2: I just packed up Natalia over the weekend. It's why

741
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,960
I pulled something in my back because you know, I

742
00:38:11,039 --> 00:38:13,960
was like packing up her closet, packing up her, and

743
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,599
then like I did the sheets on her bed, which

744
00:38:16,639 --> 00:38:18,840
is where I think I pulled my muscle, because you know,

745
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,519
it is when you're trying to put the sheets on

746
00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:25,000
the bed. And I don't know what happened, but spent

747
00:38:25,159 --> 00:38:27,559
the whole day Saturday packing around. But now she's home,

748
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,039
and I feel like it went by so fast. I

749
00:38:30,039 --> 00:38:32,599
feel like she just got there and now she's home

750
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,880
for the summer, and she's gonna be looking for a job.

751
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,760
She's gonna get a job. And Sonny too, Sonny, you'll

752
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,519
be home in like two weeks.

753
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 3: In two weeks, weeks, we should take a quick break.

754
00:38:47,679 --> 00:38:50,920
We're already back. Yeah, it was so quick. Yeah, so

755
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,079
Sunny's back in two weeks. I think that's Yeah. LB

756
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,320
and Sunny are on the same schedule. Yeah, UCLA's quarter system.

757
00:38:58,559 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think is too.

758
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so she's already back, but she's going to go

759
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,079
back maybe part of the summer and take a class.

760
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:08,760
Why did you have to clear out everything?

761
00:39:09,079 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 2: We didn't clear out everything, Okay, we just she wanted

762
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,639
to get a lot of her stuff home, so you know,

763
00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:18,480
I brought boxes for her to pack stuff up. But

764
00:39:18,519 --> 00:39:20,280
she left a lot of stuff there so she still

765
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,320
has the place, and she might go to take summer

766
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,920
classes to see she needs to get her GPA at

767
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,280
a certain level so that she can transfer and everything.

768
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,320
So when we find out how she did on her

769
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:38,159
you know, finals and everything, then we'll see. But she

770
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,559
might be going back to take a summer class, which

771
00:39:40,599 --> 00:39:44,320
is good, but then it's like she's going to have

772
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,840
to get a job too. I don't know, well that's

773
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:47,360
going to work.

774
00:39:48,199 --> 00:39:52,199
Speaker 3: But can she do a summer class online? Yeah? She

775
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,599
might have from here do that because I know Albe

776
00:39:54,599 --> 00:39:57,920
did when Albe was at Pierce a year ago or

777
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:02,280
whatever she was doing when she first did summer classes.

778
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,639
That was No, that wasn't one year ago, that was

779
00:40:05,639 --> 00:40:09,199
two years ago, right, Yeah, last summer she just sticked around,

780
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,599
so that two summers ago when she was she had

781
00:40:12,639 --> 00:40:15,360
to get started at UCLA early in order to try

782
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,280
to transfer after one year. She had to like hit

783
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,840
the ground running, and she did do it. The summer

784
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,760
classes most of them are online online.

785
00:40:22,039 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, well hopefully that'll be the case.

786
00:40:24,119 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, ye make it a lot easier for job. Yeah.

787
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, how's everything with her? Is she gonna have the

788
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,719
same roomies when she goes back.

789
00:40:33,519 --> 00:40:37,519
Speaker 2: I think for the most part, but there's one that's

790
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,119
kind of a pain in the ass, and is you know,

791
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:42,719
uh moody.

792
00:40:43,079 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 3: Oh so I don't know. Are they going to give

793
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:45,519
her the boot?

794
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think she's going to give herself

795
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:52,280
the boot because I think she knows.

796
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 3: But there's always one.

797
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,639
Speaker 2: There's always one. But yeah, she'll probably be with the

798
00:40:57,639 --> 00:41:01,679
same other two and then maybe me another two new ones,

799
00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:03,320
so we'll see.

800
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,679
Speaker 3: Whenever I had more than one roommate, I've had so

801
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,119
many roommates in my life. Have you had a lot

802
00:41:10,119 --> 00:41:11,079
of roommates ever?

803
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,639
Speaker 4: I mean, most of my roommates were people that I

804
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,920
knew from college. Okay, so it was it wasn't. I

805
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,400
don't think I've ever had just gone in cold and

806
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,360
lived with someone I didn't know for many years. I

807
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,000
mean I moved out here with a friend from college,

808
00:41:26,119 --> 00:41:29,960
and you know, I've always lived with college friends.

809
00:41:30,199 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 3: I've lived with a lot of strangers. You move out

810
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,440
to la at a young age where you don't know

811
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,679
that many people, and when you have to get a roommate.

812
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,599
I'd go through those roommate like yeah, and I'd interview people,

813
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,639
and you know, you just don't always know. I lived

814
00:41:44,639 --> 00:41:49,280
with at least two or three different guys that I'd

815
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,840
never knew before. One of them turned out to be

816
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,840
like a fantastic roommate, my old roommate, Bruce. If he

817
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,039
ever listens to this show, I'm still friends with them

818
00:41:59,079 --> 00:42:02,480
to this day, Bruce t. But he was a friend,

819
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,639
he was a He was a a friend of an acquaintance,

820
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,159
this comedian named Billy, who was like, who heard I

821
00:42:11,199 --> 00:42:12,480
was looking for a you know. It was one of

822
00:42:12,519 --> 00:42:14,039
those friend of a friend of a friend was like,

823
00:42:14,079 --> 00:42:16,239
I got a guy who's moving, and I was like,

824
00:42:16,679 --> 00:42:19,320
a guy, I'm not sure, But then I met him

825
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,559
and he's just like this big bear and he was

826
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,920
super nice and he actually helped me write my first

827
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,079
three minutes of stand up comedy because he was like

828
00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:33,079
a comedian and he was really funny, and I was like,

829
00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:36,960
here's my concepts. I remember telling him, like, when I

830
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,159
go to the gym, this was a Bally's spot, right.

831
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,480
I was like, when you go to the gym, this

832
00:42:43,519 --> 00:42:47,119
is how dated this is. There's a men's side, there's

833
00:42:47,159 --> 00:42:50,280
a women's side, and there's a co ed side. So

834
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,280
my concept for the joke was I was like I

835
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,239
never know where to work out because like I always

836
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,440
feel like it's gonna look if I'm in the co

837
00:42:58,639 --> 00:43:01,760
ed side, it seems really obvious why I'm there. Yeah,

838
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,239
so he said, so I just work out on the

839
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,280
men's side, so it's clear why I'm there, And that

840
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,840
was the punchline. And I was like, that's so funny.

841
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,039
So he did that for all my little Like right,

842
00:43:13,159 --> 00:43:16,760
what about here's another concept I have. I had one

843
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,480
that was I can't remember, but anyway, and then he

844
00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:23,960
was so sweet and supportive. So then I was like, Okay,

845
00:43:24,039 --> 00:43:26,119
maybe having a guy roommate that I don't know is

846
00:43:26,159 --> 00:43:28,760
not so bad. Until the next one that I had,

847
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,719
who was like a total like weird perv. I was like,

848
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:37,559
oh my god. He would just that's he would just

849
00:43:37,679 --> 00:43:40,159
my friends would come over and he'd make everyone uncomfortable.

850
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,320
He'd just like sit, like not go to his room

851
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,079
when I had friends over, just like sit in the

852
00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:49,199
living room and like stare at women. I eventually had

853
00:43:49,199 --> 00:43:49,960
to kick him out.

854
00:43:50,599 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I never I had a couple roommates, but they

855
00:43:54,519 --> 00:43:59,559
were my friends that I not my friend friends but

856
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,000
just kind of friend of a friend. And and then

857
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,199
there was the I so one was a friend of

858
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,159
a friend, and then she ended up being my boss

859
00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:09,639
at a preschool. End up started to work for her.

860
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,519
Then she brought another friend of hers that I didn't know,

861
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,239
and I thought she was a weird, Like I thought

862
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,320
she had these two little dogs that followed her into

863
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,440
the bathroom, and my friends used to make fun of her.

864
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,800
But now I have a dog that follows me into

865
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,960
the bathroom, so now I get it. But but yeah,

866
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,800
and that's where they when we were living together for

867
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,199
the we were living in Chatsworth when the Northridge earthquake

868
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,119
hit and we were at a commission for like two weeks,

869
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,119
but other than that, and then Suzanne was my roommate

870
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,599
and then she then she met a guy and then

871
00:44:45,639 --> 00:44:48,559
he was our roommate, and then they got married and

872
00:44:48,599 --> 00:44:50,920
then that was kind of it.

873
00:44:51,159 --> 00:44:54,159
Speaker 3: Roommates, Well, we had the same story the place that

874
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,920
I lived in when there was the Northridge quake. I

875
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,920
know I've told you this story before, But I had

876
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:03,079
two roommates. One was my friend, but then we needed

877
00:45:03,119 --> 00:45:06,199
a third because we live it was a three bedroom townhouse,

878
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,239
so we got a girl that we didn't know, and

879
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,639
then those two ended up not like complaining to me

880
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,679
all the time. So I had the master bedroom that

881
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,440
had a bathroom in the bedroom. They had both had

882
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,960
a bedroom and they shared a bathroom. Oh my god.

883
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,239
And they fought all the time. And they would both

884
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,880
come to me and be like this person was using

885
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,840
my shampoo. I know, they stole my shampoo. And then

886
00:45:28,119 --> 00:45:30,199
the other one would be like she's eating my food

887
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,840
and it was like such a headache. One of them

888
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,960
was the worst culprit though, and we ended up having

889
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:36,599
to boot her out.

890
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

891
00:45:40,519 --> 00:45:43,639
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I'm so glad. I was so glad when

892
00:45:43,679 --> 00:45:49,639
I fought. Well, no, remember then then. I don't know

893
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,519
if I don't think I had a roommate when I

894
00:45:51,559 --> 00:45:52,119
met you, right.

895
00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:55,119
Speaker 4: John, Well you were living in your ex boyfriend's apartment

896
00:45:55,159 --> 00:45:57,000
because he had left the country.

897
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 3: Right, But I lived there for like six years. Yeah,

898
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,519
but I had roommates. I always had a roommate, and

899
00:46:03,559 --> 00:46:06,199
I had I lived with strangers in that place too,

900
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:10,199
And I had the one that was like no, ma'amao

901
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:16,320
was another roommate. Oh my god, Yamo. My kids make

902
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,079
fun of that. So when my kids all, I have

903
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,920
had some really crazy roommates. Yeah. I had another one though,

904
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:29,400
who was like who had dated in the past, David Copperfield,

905
00:46:29,519 --> 00:46:36,800
remember that one she was really strange and then and

906
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,079
she was always having like missuses come to the house.

907
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:45,599
She was she was like an ex model. Oh I

908
00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:47,360
don't I'm not. I won't say her name, but I

909
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,079
don't even remember her name. But she was always having

910
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,639
like a miss like somebody come over, a professional like massuse,

911
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,079
and then they'd be in her room for like four hours,

912
00:46:57,079 --> 00:46:57,679
like four hour.

913
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 4: I just you're bypassing the stories we want to hear.

914
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,599
Did she must have dished some tea on David Copperfield

915
00:47:05,639 --> 00:47:07,239
where what were things like?

916
00:47:07,519 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 3: He'd be like she said, he was an absolute nightmare.

917
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,079
Speaker 4: He pulled something out from behind his ear and go,

918
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,679
is this your g spot? It's got to be weird,

919
00:47:16,039 --> 00:47:17,320
it's got to be pretty creepy.

920
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,679
Speaker 3: I think he was. I think he was. Like the

921
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,840
way I remember it was that he was very controlling

922
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,360
and weird and like not nice. That's not going to

923
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:28,559
surprise anybody, right.

924
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 4: How many Las Vegas, particularly Las Vegas residential magicians do

925
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,360
not have the weird like Chris angel Or. I mean,

926
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,679
these guys are all they're naughty, They're really weird.

927
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, David Blaine David Blaine. Yeah, whenever he would go

928
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,440
down on her, he would call it close up magic,

929
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,519
a serious no.

930
00:47:55,039 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 4: And then it comes full circle when you when you

931
00:47:57,039 --> 00:47:59,400
had the ex who was dating or not the ex,

932
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,519
but the roommate was dating Sigfried and Roy. Oh god,

933
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,440
so close to Chimp Empire again.

934
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 3: I literally re listened to that podcast, the Sigfried and

935
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:18,599
Roy Wild Things. It was Yeah, the podcast was really good. Yeah,

936
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:23,960
listen before we before we go, Kaylin, you might not

937
00:48:24,039 --> 00:48:27,079
be here for a while, so give us some TV res.

938
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,679
I don't want people to go a long time with

939
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,800
that between TV recommend give us your sci fi. Because

940
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,559
I'm just gonna say this really quick. I'm just gonna

941
00:48:36,559 --> 00:48:40,639
say I'm getting a lot of flak because people are

942
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,639
loving your friends and neighbors and they're mad that I'm

943
00:48:44,119 --> 00:48:48,519
being too highbrow or they're basic, and they're like, you

944
00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:51,599
know what, everything that you hate I love and everything

945
00:48:51,679 --> 00:48:53,480
Kaylin loves I love so.

946
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:55,199
Speaker 4: Rien.

947
00:48:55,599 --> 00:49:00,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would just again recommend Mobland to anybody. It's

948
00:49:00,199 --> 00:49:02,559
the best show. It's the best show on TV. It's

949
00:49:02,599 --> 00:49:06,280
like every single episode is it's just the end of

950
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:07,800
it is so good.

951
00:49:08,119 --> 00:49:08,639
Speaker 4: Mobland.

952
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's The Tom Hardy Show on Paramount. Pierce Brosnan

953
00:49:12,039 --> 00:49:12,280
is in.

954
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:13,599
Speaker 4: It on Paramount.

955
00:49:13,639 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 5: It's on Paramount.

956
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:15,679
Speaker 4: Yeah.

957
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's kind of the only show I'm watching

958
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,000
right now other than the Last of Us. But yeah,

959
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,400
there's a great sci fi show that I'm rewatching called

960
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:30,400
The Expanse. So if you like space ships and space travel, uh,

961
00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:32,920
then watch The Expanse. It's really great. It's about how

962
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:37,920
like the humans, you know, they colonize the Solar System.

963
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,119
So there's like Earth and then there's Mars and then

964
00:49:41,159 --> 00:49:43,199
what they called the Belters, which are the people out

965
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,239
by the rocks, and they're all kind of they all

966
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,360
fight with each other and it's a great show. You

967
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,000
should watch The Expanse. It's on Amazon.

968
00:49:50,039 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 3: On Amazon, It's on Amazon.

969
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 5: But I mean, and there's like six seasons. It's a

970
00:49:53,519 --> 00:49:55,320
great sci fi space show.

971
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 3: Sixties.

972
00:49:57,199 --> 00:50:00,559
Speaker 5: What's there's six seasons sixties?

973
00:50:00,599 --> 00:50:02,599
Speaker 3: I thought you said it's the sixties, and I was like.

974
00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 4: Well, that's Star Trek.

975
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 3: I don't know how much time travel there was in this. No.

976
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 4: I was going to just say on your friends and

977
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,599
neighbors is again, I didn't because I'm not I don't

978
00:50:13,599 --> 00:50:16,119
know if people know that I'm generally not allowed to

979
00:50:16,159 --> 00:50:18,280
listen to the show, so I don't know what I'm

980
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,840
following on here, but I did hop on the thread

981
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:25,159
on the listener group the other day and just explained,

982
00:50:25,199 --> 00:50:29,079
I mean, we loved the first two episodes of Your

983
00:50:29,079 --> 00:50:31,920
Friends and Neighbors because it was it seemed like it

984
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,199
was written by the showrunner and it had this really

985
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,119
great you know, it had this great voice, and it

986
00:50:38,199 --> 00:50:40,960
was had wit, and it was really skewering. You know,

987
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,159
this is what it takes to live in Greenwich or

988
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:48,400
Westchester and you know, live among edge funders, and you know,

989
00:50:48,559 --> 00:50:51,400
it's it is. It's it is a just a brutal

990
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,440
competition out there and this is and now we're going

991
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,679
to create almost a farce. And it's funny because it

992
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,480
started out it seemed like it was already have to

993
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,559
be a black comedy, a dry black comedy. But then

994
00:51:03,639 --> 00:51:06,119
the tone, it feels like that the tone changed a

995
00:51:06,199 --> 00:51:08,559
little bit, and I wondered if it was a case

996
00:51:08,559 --> 00:51:12,440
where you know, the showrunners his name Tolliver.

997
00:51:14,199 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 3: No, it's.

998
00:51:17,519 --> 00:51:19,599
Speaker 4: The show, the guy that created it. He's done a

999
00:51:19,639 --> 00:51:22,320
bunch of other shows and he writes books. But it

1000
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:26,320
felt like his vision for it was executed in the

1001
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,440
first two episodes, and then it's sort of the tone.

1002
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,199
They dropped the tone. It wasn't a dark comedy. It

1003
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,239
was more of just an ensemble piece. And you started

1004
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:39,000
bringing in the son and exploring his life with the

1005
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,400
you know, the bad girl girlfriend, and then you had

1006
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,760
these two the detective and her partner, who again I

1007
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,679
think I put this on the on the comment is

1008
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,800
like they feel like, I know that people don't go

1009
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,159
back and watch the player, but it feels like you

1010
00:51:54,239 --> 00:52:00,679
had Whoopi Goldberg and oh my goodness, who uh Lyle

1011
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,320
love It played her partner and they're just They had

1012
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:09,639
this commentary that as they investigated Griffin Dunn's murders, and

1013
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,880
I'm just like, this is a lift from that, and

1014
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,480
they're not and they're very mannered and weird, but it's

1015
00:52:15,519 --> 00:52:19,159
not comedy. It's just it felt like it wasn't holding together.

1016
00:52:19,199 --> 00:52:22,400
And I'm really rooting for the showrunner to have at

1017
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,360
least if he wrote the first two Jonathan Tropper Jonathan Tropper, Okay,

1018
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,400
I'm hoping that he will be the writer of the

1019
00:52:30,679 --> 00:52:33,400
last one, because again, there was so much wit and

1020
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,559
they dropped the wit and they dropped sort of the

1021
00:52:36,199 --> 00:52:39,639
sly commentary and it just became but people love.

1022
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 3: It, people love it well, people love it.

1023
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 2: But I also I see exactly what you guys are

1024
00:52:45,079 --> 00:52:47,079
saying the same I felt the same way.

1025
00:52:47,199 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 4: It's still a very good show. It's just it was like,

1026
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,440
oh my god, I'm gonna love this as much as

1027
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,199
Mad Men or Breaking Bad, and it just it started

1028
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,599
off at that level and then it became it's pretty good.

1029
00:52:57,639 --> 00:52:59,639
Speaker 3: But now we're still watching it every week.

1030
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,119
Speaker 2: You really need to watch Severance. Just watch it.

1031
00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 3: It's so we watched.

1032
00:53:04,599 --> 00:53:06,519
Speaker 4: Part of the first season it felt.

1033
00:53:06,599 --> 00:53:09,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just I just couldn't follow what was going on,

1034
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:11,360
but we could try it again.

1035
00:53:11,559 --> 00:53:12,599
Speaker 4: Just feel so stark.

1036
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,119
Speaker 2: It does feel stark, but there's like a lot of

1037
00:53:16,159 --> 00:53:20,000
witty moments. The writing is really good and it pays off.

1038
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 3: You know.

1039
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,519
Speaker 2: It's not one of these shows where it just keeps

1040
00:53:22,599 --> 00:53:26,239
meandering like Lost was, you know, like you never find out,

1041
00:53:26,679 --> 00:53:29,239
like at the end of the season, you're like, they

1042
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,760
tie it up, they tie it all up, right.

1043
00:53:32,079 --> 00:53:33,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's great. It's a great show.

1044
00:53:33,199 --> 00:53:33,559
Speaker 3: It's great.

1045
00:53:33,599 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 5: It's one of the best shows on tea.

1046
00:53:35,079 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny that you said that. Because literally this

1047
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,800
morning I was reading Facebook and there was an article

1048
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,079
that came up about how this many years later, the

1049
00:53:45,199 --> 00:53:48,519
showrunners discussed the ending of Lost and like what it

1050
00:53:48,559 --> 00:53:51,760
really meant? And then they did not say what it

1051
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,639
really meant. It was just basically the that some people

1052
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,599
and I never watched. I didn't watch it, but some

1053
00:53:57,639 --> 00:54:01,119
people were saying that the end was like, oh, they

1054
00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:04,159
were dead the whole time, that everybody died in the

1055
00:54:04,159 --> 00:54:05,920
plane crash and they were dead the whole time. But

1056
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,360
then the showrunners were like, no, we didn't mean that,

1057
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,519
and then they never really explained it. So I was like, well,

1058
00:54:11,639 --> 00:54:14,920
what was the point of I just lost five minutes

1059
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:15,679
reading this article.

1060
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I've talked about this other show that I

1061
00:54:17,519 --> 00:54:20,119
got really into a few months ago that's like Lost,

1062
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:25,119
except it's it's like a horror version of Lost, but

1063
00:54:25,119 --> 00:54:27,159
it's not too scary. It's a little violent. It's called

1064
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,639
from It's with one of the characters from Losses in it,

1065
00:54:30,679 --> 00:54:33,159
and it's like these people they get kind of sucked

1066
00:54:33,159 --> 00:54:35,960
into this town unknowingly, but then once they're in, they

1067
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,840
can't leave, and there's these like monsters that essentially hunt

1068
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,360
them at night and they have to like hide out

1069
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,920
in their houses and it's it. It's like lost, but

1070
00:54:44,039 --> 00:54:47,119
it's it's very good and it's kind of scary and violent.

1071
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 2: What's it on?

1072
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,079
Speaker 5: I think I watched it on Amazon?

1073
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, we've given you guys a lot. Yeah, and Kaylin,

1074
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,519
you've given us so much over the past twelve years.

1075
00:54:59,559 --> 00:55:00,599
Speaker 5: We figured twelve years.

1076
00:55:00,639 --> 00:55:02,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, twelve years.

1077
00:55:02,559 --> 00:55:04,559
Speaker 4: But he's not leaving. He's always going to be in

1078
00:55:04,599 --> 00:55:05,639
the time side after it.

1079
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,519
Speaker 3: Yes, we all have to grow and we have to

1080
00:55:08,639 --> 00:55:12,480
like and and I gotta do stuff for myself for us.

1081
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,920
Kaylen's got to do his other projects. And but we're

1082
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,119
all still in the same circle. Yes, And Kaylin, we

1083
00:55:20,199 --> 00:55:24,119
just appreciate you so much. You've just been lowed. You've

1084
00:55:24,159 --> 00:55:26,639
been so consistent, You're so kind.

1085
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,559
Speaker 2: I feel like you're like one of my like a

1086
00:55:29,639 --> 00:55:32,760
son to me, because i've known you. I remember when

1087
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,199
you came in. It's a little baby, Kaylin, And nobody

1088
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,760
knew his name. I didn't know his name. We called

1089
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,400
him Brandon, Yeah, because he looked like a Brandon.

1090
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 3: We did think he looked like a Brandon.

1091
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1092
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,599
Speaker 3: He was so quiet. You were just like kind of

1093
00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:47,159
in the background for a while.

1094
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was just shadowing Gary for a while and

1095
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:50,800
then he was like, why don't you just take this show.

1096
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:51,800
It's like, okay, but.

1097
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 2: You've grown and you've matured and you've learned and you've

1098
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,920
grown with us, and we love you and we can't

1099
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:00,760
tell you how much. Yeah, I'm so proud.

1100
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 3: You've always been so supportive and just a hard worker

1101
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,159
and consistent and just like always there for us and

1102
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:16,519
very the calmest presence. Yes that that ever rattles you. Yeah,

1103
00:56:16,639 --> 00:56:18,559
we are just so proud of like how much you've

1104
00:56:18,599 --> 00:56:20,599
grown in Like you're a dad now and you have

1105
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:25,599
you've never freaked out about that. You're just we can

1106
00:56:25,639 --> 00:56:28,159
tell you're just a good dad. And yeah, we definitely

1107
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:29,440
want you in our lives.

1108
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 4: Is this where I go and get the thank you chimp? Yes,

1109
00:56:34,599 --> 00:56:35,280
it's the present.

1110
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 3: All right. Well, let's say let's do our last shout outs.

1111
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:49,159
We've got christas Stroop's friend has the Chase Hayley project

1112
00:56:49,599 --> 00:56:52,960
that Sarah's lost her son to suicide, which is so sad,

1113
00:56:53,519 --> 00:56:55,760
and but now she's trying to do something good with

1114
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:59,039
her pain to break the stigma surrounding suicide and help

1115
00:56:59,039 --> 00:57:01,400
fill in the gaps in her community on Ohio so

1116
00:57:01,519 --> 00:57:08,679
the Chase Hayleyproject dot com. The Family Skeptical Podcast another

1117
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,840
person who started a podcast. They do an episode every

1118
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:16,719
three weeks about raising kids without religion, The Family Skeptical.

1119
00:57:17,159 --> 00:57:23,519
I love that. Also our friend Robin Robin Robin. She

1120
00:57:23,639 --> 00:57:28,920
got her great dog Bosco from Pop Culture Rescue and

1121
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,360
she wants to shout them out and get them some donations.

1122
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,920
Pop Culture like pop Culture, but Popculture Rescue dot org.

1123
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,280
They know times are tough, but even a small donation

1124
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,760
can help them cover the costs of vaccines and food

1125
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,960
and medical treatments for the dogs. All the donations are

1126
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:52,480
tax deductible. Also, my friend has a Medium column called

1127
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:58,559
Unbecoming Stories where she spills serious tea about her shitty

1128
00:57:58,639 --> 00:58:03,159
ex husband. To Unbecoming Stories on Medium and check out

1129
00:58:03,239 --> 00:58:06,559
her writing. Yeah, and every episode. Adam Lerner Adam's got

1130
00:58:06,559 --> 00:58:08,559
a car. He's shopping me a car right now? Is

1131
00:58:08,599 --> 00:58:09,000
he shopping?

1132
00:58:09,039 --> 00:58:12,119
Speaker 2: Yes, he's helping me with an Italia's car and my car?

1133
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 3: Oh good, Okay, go to adams got acar dot com.

1134
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,320
If you're in California, it's free, and if you're anywhere

1135
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,920
else he lowers the fee, which is low to begin with,

1136
00:58:24,039 --> 00:58:29,360
and he will save you money. Yeah and then uh oh.

1137
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:34,760
And Laura Wingfield's friend Oscar has Queer Youth Resource Vancouver, Washington.

1138
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:40,400
The website is qy RC Vancouver, WA dot org. It's

1139
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,480
her best friend from college. They're really filling in the

1140
00:58:43,519 --> 00:58:44,920
gaps for queer youth.

1141
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,119
Speaker 2: Well, we go look at their website.

1142
00:58:47,239 --> 00:58:51,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, please do. It's important to all of us. Okay,

1143
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:55,239
thank you, Thank you. Kaylin A. You're a parent now,

1144
00:59:01,119 --> 00:59:04,599
still had letting go