Speaker 1: Joe'scolante live from Hollywood. By Hollywood, you mean Burbank, across
Speaker 1: the street from a Wiener Schnitzel that sells beer. It's
Speaker 1: also a combination Wiener Schnitzel dairy queen. Did you know that, Sam?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually like the ice cream too.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's tremendous over there. This is two hours
Speaker 1: of the business end of show business. So you're lucky
Speaker 1: you just tuned into the right radio station, KiB eleven
Speaker 1: fifty on your AM dial. When we do this every Sunday.
Speaker 1: A lot of times during the NFL were preempted by
Speaker 1: the National Football League, But today, Wow, Sam, they just
Speaker 1: going to we're doing a live show. Even when we
Speaker 1: don't have a live show, we still do a podcast version,
Speaker 1: and this show will be a podcast in just a
Speaker 1: few hours.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, as soon as we're done, I'm gonna sit
Speaker 2: down and cut it up and we'll we'll give the
Speaker 2: baby a name and let it fly.
Speaker 1: All right. We were talking before we got on. I
Speaker 1: had I think I talked about this before. I wasn't
Speaker 1: going to talk about it, but Sammy had some interesting
Speaker 1: takes on the the Drake situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and I don't know if you've paid attention
Speaker 2: to it.
Speaker 1: You know what I paid attention to it. I talked
Speaker 1: about it, yeah, and then I forgot about it.
Speaker 2: Well, because it's interesting. It stems from the rap beef
Speaker 2: that's going on between Drake and Kendrick Lamar, and both
Speaker 2: of them very good rappers. Kendrick Lamar basically ended the
Speaker 2: rap battle with a song called They Not Like Us,
Speaker 2: and it was a song that really pointed a lot
Speaker 2: of fingers, a lot of negative stuff, made some accusations
Speaker 2: about Drake and things like that, and Drake went on
Speaker 2: the offensive, but not by picking up a mic, by
Speaker 2: picking up a lawyer, and he sued everybody associated with
Speaker 2: the song except for Kendrick Lamar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty strange. He's he. What I had read
Speaker 1: was that he was suing Universal, his own label.
Speaker 2: And which is also Kendrick's label.
Speaker 1: Okay, Kendrick label, and iHeart, which is our employer, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and saying that they manipulated airplay to get more plays
Speaker 1: for this. They they aren't like They They not like us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's a typo. Did they Did someone
Speaker 1: check that out? They not like us?
Speaker 2: They not like us?
Speaker 1: No, They're not oh, they they not like us, like
Speaker 1: they don't like us or they they just forgot.
Speaker 2: The verb they are not they are not the verb
Speaker 2: he forgot.
Speaker 1: I wonder why he left that out. And then maybe
Speaker 1: it's so people like me wouldn't know what he's saying.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe maybe, But in.
Speaker 1: Any case, so he's that's that's your understanding of it too.
Speaker 1: I I did this and I forgot about it, he's suing.
Speaker 1: He's saying that that that they shouldn't have the airplay
Speaker 1: that it does.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, also they're saying that it's uh, it's not
Speaker 2: just the airplay, it's the fact that the label promoted
Speaker 2: it knowing that Drake is one of their more renowned
Speaker 2: stars and this is going to be something that defames him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, are they? Does he have a defamation part of
Speaker 1: the suitors. I thought that it was just the airplae stuff.
Speaker 2: Well, no, the defamation is real. He they made some accusations.
Speaker 2: Shall we say it was the song itself had some accurate.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's I I did read it. He's got a
Speaker 1: song called certified lover Boy. Yeah, and then uh, then
Speaker 1: Drake says, more like certified pedophile pedophiles And that's pretty bad.
Speaker 1: It makes me believe that Drake Drake is the pedophile or.
Speaker 2: That's the accusation from Kendrick even had a line in
Speaker 2: the song.
Speaker 1: Which ones and when they're calling who's the certified lover boy,
Speaker 1: that's Drake or that's Kendrick.
Speaker 2: Drake is the one who is having the Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Certified lover Boy is an album by Drake. So
Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar says, more like certified pedophiles and that makes
Speaker 1: me believe. So what do we need for a defamation case.
Speaker 1: We go through this all the time, and it's really
Speaker 1: good for people that know this because people are always
Speaker 1: thinking they're being defamed and they're I'm going to sue
Speaker 1: you for that. But if they listen to this show,
Speaker 1: they we could save him some time and some trouble.
Speaker 1: On this show, we point out that number one, the
Speaker 1: claim has to be defamatory in the sense that it
Speaker 1: would make people spit on the ground if they heard it.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of spit on the ground right now,
Speaker 2: just saying do just.
Speaker 1: Take the pedophile part. If someone if tells you that,
Speaker 1: like your neighbor is a pedophile, you spit on the
Speaker 1: ground and go that's disgusting. Yeah, you don't spit on
Speaker 1: your hands by all means.
Speaker 2: Unless you're planning on coming up with a deal with
Speaker 2: somebody else and both of you spit on your hands
Speaker 2: and shake hands. Yeah, that's kind of the of the West.
Speaker 1: But you spit on your hands and you go disgusting. Oh,
Speaker 1: now that is defamatory. That's definitely defamatory statements. But there's
Speaker 1: a couple other things. It has to be not true.
Speaker 1: So if you sue someone and then they go ladies
Speaker 1: and gentlemen, their defense is I point you to the
Speaker 1: Drake computer screen where there are pictures of naked children,
Speaker 1: and here's one of him assaulting one, and we have
Speaker 1: certified this computer and that it is his, then he
Speaker 1: would be a certified pedophile. You can only say that
Speaker 1: if it's true. You can't say it if it's not true. However,
Speaker 1: there's one now that if that was just a regular person,
Speaker 1: But if you're a celebrity, there's one more hurdle that
Speaker 1: the plaintiff would have to overcome, and that would be
Speaker 1: was there malice because he's famous? So people people are
Speaker 1: always throwing around things to famous people that like maybe
Speaker 1: they might say Lebron James is a bum. Now you know,
Speaker 1: bum that means you don't work, you don't support your family. Disgusting.
Speaker 1: But you say he's a bumb. You can say that
Speaker 1: every day in your sports call him and call him
Speaker 1: a bum because he's famous. So it has to get
Speaker 1: this across this threshold of malice. You're not saying it
Speaker 1: because you're saying because you believe he's a bum or
Speaker 1: he's your opinion, he's a bum in terms of sports,
Speaker 1: and you're not, so you the malice would be. Let's
Speaker 1: say there was a you had some official capacity of
Speaker 1: like you're the coach, and you said he is a
Speaker 1: bum because you thought he was about to be like
Speaker 1: he was going to be go for another team and
Speaker 1: then go work for another team, and the team was
Speaker 1: like gonna gonna pay him, they were thinking about what
Speaker 1: to pay him, and then you said, I have to
Speaker 1: warn you the guy is a bum. He doesn't work,
Speaker 1: he doesn't support his family. All the money that that
Speaker 1: that we give him he uses for drugs or whatever
Speaker 1: like and then and then the other team would not
Speaker 1: and you're trying to get the other team not to
Speaker 1: hire him. Yeah, that would be malice. You you you
Speaker 1: had an agenda in this case, he's calling this guy
Speaker 1: a pedophile. Do you think that he gets past the
Speaker 1: the public figure threshold by virtue of that being malicious
Speaker 1: to try to do something? Is there a goal.
Speaker 2: Here, that's the thing. It's a rap battle. Yes, So
Speaker 2: he didn't sue the rapper. He sued the distributor.
Speaker 1: Right, So they're saying, where's my malice. Your malice is
Speaker 1: you're trying to make my records not sell. And they're like,
Speaker 1: why not, why would we do that? We own your
Speaker 1: record label and we make money if you make money.
Speaker 1: But this is a rap battle and it's awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fire back, it's making everybody money.
Speaker 1: Yes, So a judge might go, look, this is not malice.
Speaker 1: This is just rap battles. And so he's suing the
Speaker 1: wrong people because if he did sue this one, if
Speaker 1: he did sue.
Speaker 2: If Drake sued Kendrick, he lost the battle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's no longer a rap battle. It's just like, hey,
Speaker 1: you went too far. Yeah, because in a rap or
Speaker 1: any honorable contest, there is a point at which you
Speaker 1: go too far, and that could be you went too far,
Speaker 1: and the whole case could be about this guy going
Speaker 1: too far, and maybe Drake's kids are kicked out of
Speaker 1: their private school, their their preschool or whatever that they
Speaker 1: you know, wait waitlisted forever to get into. And then
Speaker 1: he's dropped by his agency because they think he's a pedophile.
Speaker 1: And he can show these damages that people take it seriously,
Speaker 1: then I would say Lamar has a problem. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: this will be interesting if it goes forward.
Speaker 2: The funny part is that that Lamar, Kendrick Lamar had
Speaker 2: a concert up in Canada recently up I believe, up
Speaker 2: in Toronto in Drake's neck of the woods. And it
Speaker 2: was a sold out show and Drake bought the first
Speaker 2: three rows out.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I heard about this.
Speaker 2: So then Kendrick Lamar went and just made it a
Speaker 2: free show.
Speaker 1: Made the whole thing a free show.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, you just started letting people in. So what if
Speaker 1: you what if you bought the first and fourth row
Speaker 1: you paid?
Speaker 2: I think he gave people refunds for refunds. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: it just became a free concert.
Speaker 1: And then uh, then Drake said, Nina, Nina, Nina, I
Speaker 1: made you spend a bunch of money. And then then
Speaker 1: Lamar said, I have more money than you. You'll never
Speaker 1: know what it's like to have the money I have.
Speaker 1: It's funny that you're mad about that, because money is
Speaker 1: nothing to me. I have so much of it. That's
Speaker 1: how I wrap battle.
Speaker 2: Oh it was so good, you like, I just love it.
Speaker 2: No ever one thing. You just just don't piss off
Speaker 2: Kendrick Lamar's everybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I knows. I don't know what the trouble is
Speaker 1: with these two musicians. I think they should patch it up.
Speaker 1: But because also the courts, my friend, are not supposed
Speaker 1: to be used for childish stuff like this. They're used
Speaker 1: for so people to get access to justice. I'm uh,
Speaker 1: there's a lawsuit that I'm advising on right now, and
Speaker 1: the trial day is you know, it just it just
Speaker 1: got filed a couple of weeks ago. The trial leaders
Speaker 1: in two thousand and six, twenty six, twenty twenty six,
Speaker 1: So it's there's you know, justice delayed is justice denied,
Speaker 1: they say. And it's people like this that are making
Speaker 1: things worse, not making things better. But I don't know
Speaker 1: too many things that have ever been made better better
Speaker 1: by rap music. You know, sometimes it's fun, but nothing
Speaker 1: has ever made better rarely. All right, Joe Scalante Live
Speaker 1: from Hollywood. Let's stick to traffic. Oh, we don't have
Speaker 1: traffic today because there is no traffic. I just drove
Speaker 1: here and I sailed right through.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Nothing, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: Nothing to check. Nope, Joe'scalante Live from Hollywood. If by
Speaker 1: Hollywood you mean bird Bank. So Sam in the Celebrities
Speaker 1: Behaving badly department, we have Blake Lively, the star of
Speaker 1: It ends with us. This thing I don't watch. You
Speaker 1: know that's a TV series, right, I hope?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it ends with us, you know, I just
Speaker 1: I just don't see this one. There's too many. I
Speaker 1: like the penguin. Do you like the penguin?
Speaker 2: I need to watch the Penguin. We've mentioned this one
Speaker 2: last week. The penguin sounds amazing, and I guess it's.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's a movie. It ends with us. It's my apology. Oh,
Speaker 1: this is movie news. The director and co star Justin
Speaker 1: Baldoni has been sued by the star Blake Lively, who
Speaker 1: says that she was sexually harassed by Justin Baldoni. Do
Speaker 1: you know do you hear about this? Sam?
Speaker 2: I didn't. I just saw this headline right now, and
Speaker 2: it's I know who they are. I'm just trying to
Speaker 2: figure out exactly what the intricacies are and of this
Speaker 2: one is because it just happened about a day ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to get to this later in the show.
Speaker 1: And while we're talking about movies, let's go look at
Speaker 1: the box office. See what's going on. Because, as I
Speaker 1: mentioned in a week's previous there with all the negative
Speaker 1: things about the movie box office and all the people
Speaker 1: that are supposedly not going to the movies and movie
Speaker 1: theater shutting down, et cetera, over Thanksgiving, that the biggest
Speaker 1: box office ever. So, the biggest box office ever happened
Speaker 1: over Thanksgiving, like the biggest numbers. I mean, it's not
Speaker 1: adjusted for inflation really, but it's going up, not down.
Speaker 1: And then here's another story about the box office. Disney
Speaker 1: has been the first studio since the pre pandemic days
Speaker 1: to reach five billion in box office as a studio,
Speaker 1: So Disney and we have some there's some So Disney
Speaker 1: haters on like on the internet, like in the clickbait
Speaker 1: is always is is Disney going out of business? Or
Speaker 1: is is bob Iger? Uh? Can bo bob Iger possibly
Speaker 1: save Disney from bankruptcy? Stuff? Like that where it's like
Speaker 1: super extreme. I don't know why people like I know
Speaker 1: why you could. You can like a company, you can
Speaker 1: aid a company. A lot of people don't like them
Speaker 1: because of their professed uh morality that they're uh infusing
Speaker 1: into their programming. Okay, fine, but what you're going to
Speaker 1: spend time creating content to bash them? I don't understand that.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can disagree with what they're doing.
Speaker 2: A lot of people have issues with the fact that
Speaker 2: they're just by into everything that they've held sacred. Marvel,
Speaker 2: Star Wars, a lot of these things that like they
Speaker 2: want Disney to just be Disney as like as far
Speaker 2: as their memory goes, and not try to invade all
Speaker 2: of these other properties that people really have this deep
Speaker 2: seated affection for, yet are totally like hateful about every
Speaker 2: bit and piece of product that comes out from these
Speaker 2: properties and are totally critical of them because they don't
Speaker 2: like the fact that it's not being totally one up
Speaker 2: to Cannon. And it's like, you know, these people nowadays
Speaker 2: are trying to do stuff that's different that picking up
Speaker 2: more of an audience or whatever. And you know, you
Speaker 2: saw Star Wars basically get railroaded by its own fans.
Speaker 1: Well, it is terrible though you have to admit, ye,
Speaker 1: Star Wars movies are terrible. They was good, but that.
Speaker 2: That and and or are Piggyback and all the Star
Speaker 2: Wars right now. But it's still like at all of
Speaker 2: that problem started when Disney started getting their hands into it.
Speaker 1: But people also are mad at their political agenda, oh
Speaker 1: for sure, and but two and I think that's fair
Speaker 1: if you want to be mad at them or not
Speaker 1: to me, it's just like there's there's probably things that
Speaker 1: you know, they they probably shouldn't do, should probably stay
Speaker 1: more middle in the middle of the road. But if
Speaker 1: you're offended by if you don't want any gaze to
Speaker 1: work at Disney, there's not gonna be any good Disney
Speaker 1: stuff because they're very creative. So then you can say, well,
Speaker 1: then I just won't watch it. Okay, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people like that. I know. I know some people,
Speaker 1: and they will not give one cent to Disney. They
Speaker 1: won't go to the park, they won't get Disney. Plus,
Speaker 1: they won't go to Nutsberry Farm, even though Disney doesn't
Speaker 1: own nuts Berry Farm, but they they but it has
Speaker 1: roller coasters. I'm just kidding. They So is this having
Speaker 1: an effect on Disney. Uh, there's a there's a story
Speaker 1: out now that says claims that there's an animated series
Speaker 1: called Win or Lose by Pixar and it no longer
Speaker 1: includes a transgender storyline, and so they're just getting rid
Speaker 1: of that. They just decided. A spokesman person for Disney said,
Speaker 1: when it comes to animated content for a younger audience,
Speaker 1: we recognize that many parents would prefer to discuss certain
Speaker 1: subjects with their children on their own terms and timeline.
Speaker 1: This is in direct uh contradiction to their their previous thing,
Speaker 1: which was you know that executives saying it is important
Speaker 1: that we steer the culture in a progressive direction. I
Speaker 1: mean they were like pretty pretty uh transparent about that,
Speaker 1: and now they're saying, only many transgender storylines and our stuff,
Speaker 1: But the parents do that, I mean, you know, really
Speaker 1: it's just for the parents. So yeah, they did about face.
Speaker 1: Now did they do it because they were it was
Speaker 1: costing them money? Or did they do it because somebody
Speaker 1: finally won a battle over there and said, you know what, guys,
Speaker 1: you got to stop it. It's a headache. You give
Speaker 1: me a headache. I'm getting complaints. Do we have to
Speaker 1: have these gig characters, these transgenders, these do we have
Speaker 1: to can't we just let the parents do that? What
Speaker 1: do you think it is?
Speaker 2: I think they finally realized that they were alienating a
Speaker 2: good chunk of their audience, and just by the sheer,
Speaker 2: just by the sheer mention of that of Disney, by
Speaker 2: people like Ron DeSantis as soon as it gets mentioned.
Speaker 2: It's everything is so polarized in this country that you're
Speaker 2: falling on one side or another of every single topic
Speaker 2: instead of just saying, look, it's not our fight.
Speaker 1: Yeah are yeah, or like yeah, we don't like that,
Speaker 1: but we still go to Disney, And pretty soon it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, the they're the two camps. If you're in
Speaker 1: the camp that hates Disney and something, well you're going
Speaker 1: to Disney. They go to Disney. Wow, I would never
Speaker 1: do that. Ye are you really? Don't you? Don't you
Speaker 1: love your children? Don't you want him to grow up
Speaker 1: solid citizens? How dare you spit on the ground? Right? Yeah? So?
Speaker 1: I mean for me, I don't like to boycott things
Speaker 1: because I'm such a weak person. I can't really sooner
Speaker 1: or later I got to boycott Disney, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: but I love the Jingle Cruise, So I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: go the Jungle Cruise and then and then I'm gonna leave.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna buy a pineapple doll whip. You know,
Speaker 1: I just don't. I just don't listen.
Speaker 2: I go.
Speaker 1: You guys do that, and I'm over here. Every once
Speaker 1: in a while, I might punish a company if I
Speaker 1: see him doing something stupid, but it's you know, I'll say, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna buy that today, I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: buy the other one. But you start boycotting these things
Speaker 1: and you're just like yourself into a corner. And then
Speaker 1: when you get out of it and you've decided you
Speaker 1: have to you have to buy the product or go
Speaker 1: back or see the actor in a movie. Now you
Speaker 1: look like a hypocrite. So I don't do it. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take a break, and then we're gonna see how
Speaker 1: Disney and other movies fared at the box office this weekend.
Speaker 1: Shoe Ascolante Live from Hollywood Show business stuff. Hey, so
Speaker 1: people you know are going to movies now, Sam, have
Speaker 1: you seen any movies in the last week since since
Speaker 1: we were on there.
Speaker 2: I need to remember to keep pushing my button. I
Speaker 2: keep talking and it's not on. Yeah no, not since
Speaker 2: last week. No, I have not caught anything. I stayed
Speaker 2: in I stayed in bed and slept. I'm so happy
Speaker 2: that I'm done with school.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just oh my gosh, too much. I
Speaker 1: had the Kyrock Acoustic Christmas last Saturday or Friday, an
Speaker 1: think it was.
Speaker 2: How was it?
Speaker 1: It's a big spectacle, you know, it's great, it's great,
Speaker 1: it's it's no. iHeart Radio Fest though obviously no. But
Speaker 1: it's cute at the Fabulous Forum and Sublime played, as
Speaker 1: you know, that's the band that I manage, and there
Speaker 1: was us who Beck and Smashing Pumpkins and three eleven
Speaker 1: and the Linda Linda's and it was fun, you know,
Speaker 1: because you know, playing in a band most of my life.
Speaker 1: The Forum is the biggest like target I think of
Speaker 1: any rock band at least like we're going to sell
Speaker 1: out the Forum. And you know, my own band, the Vandals,
Speaker 1: can only sell out the House of Blues, which is
Speaker 1: a major achievement for a stupid punk band. But we're
Speaker 1: not getting near the Forum. But now that I'm in
Speaker 1: the manager racket, hey, my band's at the forum. Hey,
Speaker 1: my band's on the main stage at Coachella. I can
Speaker 1: live through these kidstually two of them are my same age,
Speaker 1: but there's a kid singer. And then it was it
Speaker 1: was good, but then after that, I'm saying that. And
Speaker 1: then two nights before that they played in CanCon two
Speaker 1: nights in a row.
Speaker 2: And a company Christmas no less.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a company Christmas. I think we talked
Speaker 1: about last week.
Speaker 2: I heard pay attention. I mean, I love I love
Speaker 2: the California Adventure Christmases. Those are amazing. Thank you k
Speaker 2: Coast one oh three point five for all of your
Speaker 2: lovely work and everything.
Speaker 1: But man, can coon can Coon at the Moon Palace.
Speaker 1: It's a it's an upscale resort down there. And then
Speaker 1: Post Malone and Weezer and Sublime, and then they had
Speaker 1: like Whiz Khalifa the day before and then Nelly the
Speaker 1: day before that. It's just like, you know, they like
Speaker 1: rock and roll over there at that company. It was
Speaker 1: a power company that rehabs houses. I think like they
Speaker 1: get destroyed and hurricanes and things like that. Really yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: you might think that disaster profiteers, but I wouldn't look
Speaker 1: at it like that, I would say, these guys are
Speaker 1: helping people and getting justly compensated and giving some of
Speaker 1: it to me. Okay, now I think it's all on
Speaker 1: the up and up. And then you know, and then
Speaker 1: then then we fly back and then we got to
Speaker 1: play the form that night, and then I had these
Speaker 1: Vandals Christmas shows, and then the House of Blues in
Speaker 1: San Diego and then House Bols Anaheim, and then we
Speaker 1: then we have to rehearse. Then had to go to
Speaker 1: something at this like this pizza place down in Newport
Speaker 1: Beach and appear, you know, because you got to sell tickets,
Speaker 1: so you got to do things to sell tickets. Now,
Speaker 1: the Anaheim one was sold out, but the San Diego
Speaker 1: one wasn't. So I gotta go, uh play with this
Speaker 1: band called Tasty Nugs at a at the Remember the
Speaker 1: poor Man on the radio? Oh yeah, So the poor
Speaker 1: Man has a he has a radio station down there
Speaker 1: in San Diego in it's more Orange County. I think
Speaker 1: it's called KOs or something like that. So anyway, he's
Speaker 1: on the air there and they do annual Christmas show there.
Speaker 1: So now that's four Christmas shows I've been to, including
Speaker 1: my own. So I went and played that thing. Uh,
Speaker 1: and you know, I just not get any rest. And
Speaker 1: then tonight I got to drive to Burbank. Yes, we're
Speaker 1: in Burbank, across the street from a Wienerschnitzel. It's selling
Speaker 1: beer right now.
Speaker 2: And ice cream.
Speaker 3: Yeah you got a beer float?
Speaker 1: Oh, I guess you could. And uh yeah, just like
Speaker 1: so that's a long way of saying, I didn't see
Speaker 1: any movies this week. When was I going to see
Speaker 1: a movie?
Speaker 2: You didn't have any time.
Speaker 1: Not gonna go see a movie next week? So but
Speaker 1: number one at the box office, take a guess.
Speaker 2: Moana dos no.
Speaker 1: Sonic Sonic two or Sonic three and Hedgehog today.
Speaker 2: I've heard very good things.
Speaker 1: It's gotta be good if Jim Carrey is sticking with it.
Speaker 2: I think he was very much not wanting to be
Speaker 2: a part of the second one, but a lot of
Speaker 2: people saw his performance in the first one and we're like, dude,
Speaker 2: you gotta come back and do this again. Do it big,
Speaker 2: do it, do it bigger.
Speaker 1: So that's number one. I'm doing sixty two million dollars
Speaker 1: in money.
Speaker 2: That's the one I'm going to be seeing with the
Speaker 2: kids once they get back in town. They're up. They're
Speaker 2: going to have a white Christmas in the snow, which I'm.
Speaker 1: Going to be which mountains, because there's no mountains in
Speaker 1: this where my cabin is. Shasta is no snow.
Speaker 2: They to Shasta.
Speaker 1: I've climbed. No, I haven't climbed out Chesta. I climb
Speaker 1: out Lasson. Okay, it's not it's just walking up a trail.
Speaker 1: But it's right by over there. Okay. So Mufasa the
Speaker 1: Lion King is number two, and that's a new one.
Speaker 1: That's a lion king, you know, adjacent thing. Number three
Speaker 1: is the movie Wicked. Never heard of it? Number four Moana.
Speaker 2: Does how many of these top four or five are
Speaker 2: Disney adjacents?
Speaker 1: Well, this is two, and then Homestead's number five, Gladiators
Speaker 1: number six, So two of the top five, and so
Speaker 1: people are going to Disney movies and even though people
Speaker 1: are complaining about Disney movies, did you know that? Okay,
Speaker 1: So they remove the transgenderness in the character of that
Speaker 1: TV series, and then the girl that played the role
Speaker 1: was transgender because they put out a casting call for
Speaker 1: transgender actresses, which is a little bit weird. It's like, hey, everybody,
Speaker 1: if you're a transgender. You're so special, you get a
Speaker 1: prize and get to be in a cartoon, And I
Speaker 1: think that probably creeped out people too.
Speaker 2: It's like, I think it's kind of the same thing
Speaker 2: that made it so it became offensive for Hanka's area
Speaker 2: to be a pooh on The Simpsons. They wanted to
Speaker 2: have people who are more representative of the culture than
Speaker 2: just random voice actors coming in just to voice a character.
Speaker 2: I think they were just trying to aim towards the
Speaker 2: representation chick that a lot of people were into, and
Speaker 2: we just don't want it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. We know what they were trying to do
Speaker 1: when people and people are having less of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: some people still I think that's great. Maybe half the
Speaker 1: country think it's great, but there's enough people that are
Speaker 1: just like, don't do it. I don't I don't want
Speaker 1: to stop it, so.
Speaker 2: They remove the entire character. Rather than just have like
Speaker 2: somebody who wasn't transgender voicing a transgender character, they just
Speaker 2: got rid of the character.
Speaker 1: So here's another outaword. Charctress Homestead gladiat I didn't see
Speaker 1: that gladiator to us on I think I've talked about
Speaker 1: this gladiator too, you know, there's no great writing, no
Speaker 1: great acting, but the special effects in the scenery are
Speaker 1: worth seeing that movie. See it in a theater, see
Speaker 1: it in a IMAX or a cinemak x D. This
Speaker 1: is what I saw it, and you will be It's
Speaker 1: an enjoyable day at the movies. I mean, you can't
Speaker 1: beat it. You look at it and you go thank
Speaker 1: the Lord for these people that are, you know, spending
Speaker 1: as much time on money in movies, because this is awesome,
Speaker 1: you know. But if you see it on your phone
Speaker 1: or in an airplane, you're gonna go like nang, it's
Speaker 1: not much. It might even change a channel. Now, the
Speaker 1: movies that people are talking about are Anora for awards
Speaker 1: from Neon Pictures. I'm just saying, this is people talking
Speaker 1: to me about it. Oh my gosh, you've seen have
Speaker 1: you seen Anora? You got to see Anora. And then
Speaker 1: the other one people are talking about talking about, well,
Speaker 1: as you said, the Wild Robot is still in some theaters,
Speaker 1: maybe the best movie of the year. And then people
Speaker 1: are talking about the Robbie Williams movie where it's a
Speaker 1: story of a boy band and it's kind of it's
Speaker 1: kind of the story of Robby Williams and his experiences.
Speaker 1: But the instead of a transgender.
Speaker 2: Person, there's Robbie Williams.
Speaker 1: They're playing Robbie. They have it as a monkey. A
Speaker 1: monkey plays Robbie Williams.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, is this like Lancelot Link style.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little bit like my favorite TV series
Speaker 1: of all time Lancelot Link. Yes, Secret Chimp. Yes, well,
Speaker 1: maybe Green Acres is my favorite of all time. But
Speaker 1: after that, it's maybe the Adams Family. But right up there,
Speaker 1: maybe it's it's hard to pick, but Lancelot Link's Secret Chimp,
Speaker 1: which was a detective series where everybody was an ape, yep,
Speaker 1: chimpanzee or something.
Speaker 2: Well dressed too, all of them. Yeah, better dressed than me.
Speaker 2: That's saying something. I need to go and actually hit
Speaker 2: up some better clothes. The chimps are better dressed than me.
Speaker 1: People said that on the set, most of those monkeys.
Speaker 1: It was hard to work with him because they all
Speaker 1: have peanut butter breath.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how they got them to go. Yeah, makes sense.
Speaker 1: I'm a talking parrot.
Speaker 2: Now, what does it say?
Speaker 1: It says hello, and it says I love you, and
Speaker 1: it says and it says what you think? It watched it,
Speaker 1: watched licorice pizza. Okay, he doesn't say that, not yet.
Speaker 2: I just I just love. I just love the fact
Speaker 2: that there's so much love going on in your house
Speaker 2: that this bird has nothing vulgar to say.
Speaker 1: No, he doesn't. He might say full of grace, full
Speaker 1: of grace, but we're like, you know, we teach him
Speaker 1: to say nice things.
Speaker 2: It's the most wholesome bird ever.
Speaker 1: But we found it, you know, so we as a baby.
Speaker 1: We rescued it. So it hasn't known anybody except for us.
Speaker 1: Oh anyway, all right, So the movies are movies are
Speaker 1: alive now with Nora, that one's happening. Other anticipated movies
Speaker 1: are the Venom movie, of course, is coming out, and
Speaker 1: these other movies. No one cares. You know, you don't.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you to some name of the movie
Speaker 1: you never heard heard of. I'm not gonna do it.
Speaker 2: What's the Honora film about? Because I know what Vendom
Speaker 2: is about, and it was closing out Sony. That is
Speaker 2: like gonna be the big thing that Sony goes out
Speaker 2: with like a whimper, not a bang. As far as
Speaker 2: their Spider Man stuff.
Speaker 1: Goes, well, I'll take your word for that. Honora is
Speaker 1: the a story of a young street girl from Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: which is a city or a borough yes, and gets
Speaker 1: her chance at a Cinderella fairytale when she meets and
Speaker 1: impulsively marries the son of an oligarch Tune. As the
Speaker 1: news reaches RuSHA, her fairy tale is threatened as her
Speaker 1: parents head to New York to have the marriage and
Speaker 1: noled don't break my heart in order don't break my heart.
Speaker 1: I'm just adding my own dialogue even to this review.
Speaker 1: But from what I've from what I've been told, this
Speaker 1: is one of the best movies of the year. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I haven't seen it yet, but.
Speaker 2: The way that accent really got me, I'm now sold.
Speaker 2: I have to see this movie just because of the
Speaker 2: accent that you threw.
Speaker 1: Yeah, perfectly. Yeah, it's you know.
Speaker 2: I based off of that accent. It's my pick for
Speaker 2: film of the year.
Speaker 1: I am model.
Speaker 2: I have to see this movie now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not as funny as I'm making it out
Speaker 1: to be. Probably, But did you ever see the TV
Speaker 1: series We're Gonna Take a breakle Soon? But you ever
Speaker 1: see the TV series Russian Dolls?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Is that what it's called No, there's a there's a Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a reality show about Russians like living
Speaker 1: in like, you know, New York area, And uh, it's
Speaker 1: pretty good because.
Speaker 2: You know, like Russian oligarchs.
Speaker 1: Russian Doll, is not it that?
Speaker 2: That's you know where people who Odessa.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people that just got here and then they're trying
Speaker 1: to raise their kids here and their kids are very
Speaker 1: materialistic as you can imagine. And but it's I forgot
Speaker 1: what it's called. But Russian Doll is a TV series
Speaker 1: starring uh Natasha Leone as a game developer who repeatedly
Speaker 1: dies and then relives the same night in an ongoing
Speaker 1: time loop and and tries to resolve it.
Speaker 2: It's like a roguelike, that's what they call games like that,
Speaker 2: where you die and learn a little bit more every
Speaker 2: time you die, but you keep resetting.
Speaker 1: I guess, but that's the whole you know, premise. I've
Speaker 1: only seen a couple episodes, but it's interesting, pretty good. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's take a break and we'll come back and we're
Speaker 1: gonna explain to you what that guy was doing to
Speaker 1: Blake Lively on the set of It Ends with Us.
Speaker 1: Joe Scalante Live from Hollywood, Joe Ascalante Live from Hollywood. Yes,
Speaker 1: we are two hours of the business into show business
Speaker 1: every Sunday at five pm. Sometimes you'll turn on the
Speaker 1: TV and it'll be either a football game or the
Speaker 1: evil Matt money Smith talking about the Chargers. But that
Speaker 1: just means we're preempted that week and we'll be back
Speaker 1: the next week maybe. But we're always on the podcasting.
Speaker 1: Always said podcast every week, right Sam?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know. We get it up there. We
Speaker 2: do it routinely, religiously.
Speaker 1: Just getting rich off these podcasts, how about you, Sam.
Speaker 2: We are no, No, I'm getting the same money that.
Speaker 1: I ever got, getting personally rich. Hey hey, personal like
Speaker 1: personal development, yeah, fulfillment, fulfillment, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like just part of me
Speaker 2: gets sacrificed every show.
Speaker 1: You die inside just a little more, a little bit
Speaker 1: in that freeway, for sure. So Blake Lively, there's a
Speaker 1: movie called It Ends with Us and it's I saw
Speaker 1: the trailers. I remember it now and I'm like, Noop.
Speaker 1: I think I might have said out loud, no, that's
Speaker 1: a hard no when I saw Sometimes I do that
Speaker 1: in case my wife's even thinking about it. Yeah, hard
Speaker 1: no on it ends with us. But so it stars
Speaker 1: Blake Lively. And then there's like a director actor named
Speaker 1: Justin Baldoni if that's his real name. Uh, and he
Speaker 1: has been accused by Blake Lively and there's a lawsuit
Speaker 1: they filed with the courts.
Speaker 2: I think he changed his name from Luigi Mangoni.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, nobody wants to be called Luigi Mangoni anymore
Speaker 1: except for some people.
Speaker 2: Some people are totally happy with it.
Speaker 1: I have guy's a hero to many people. Those people
Speaker 1: are are are disturbed and they're disordered, but he is
Speaker 1: a hero to them. Now, Justin Baldoni, what did he do?
Speaker 1: He he he made Okay, this is what. They had
Speaker 1: a meeting to talk about it, and then they had
Speaker 1: all hands on meeting on the set. Things got so
Speaker 1: bad during the filming they had to do that.
Speaker 2: He was so sexually harassing that they needed to call
Speaker 2: in a team meeting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did more than that. You could have got
Speaker 1: a job on this. They had some professionals coming in
Speaker 1: to U two.
Speaker 2: I need to figure out how to become like an
Speaker 2: intimacy coordinator on this. Yes, I think that would be
Speaker 2: very helpful.
Speaker 1: You could you could do that. So they said in
Speaker 1: the list of things after the meeting that they all
Speaker 1: agreed there that that Baldoni wouldn't do or anybody would
Speaker 1: do is No more mentions of Baldoni's not showing nude
Speaker 1: videos or images to women. Okay, hey, look at this.
Speaker 1: You know you don't do that with those guys. It's
Speaker 1: a number game, you know. They get slapped, to get slapped,
Speaker 1: to get slapped, to get slapped, and then someone says,
Speaker 1: well that's interesting. Do you like this?
Speaker 2: Is this what you like?
Speaker 1: So you don't do that in the workplace. No more
Speaker 1: mentions of Baldoni's alleged previous pornography addiction. Okay, that's another one. Hey,
Speaker 1: you know I used to have a pornography addiction. Really yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and then you might get some number. You
Speaker 1: might get someone to react like, eh, yeah, me too,
Speaker 1: or how'd you get how'd you get over it? Would
Speaker 1: you help me get you know, it's just oh it's gross.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: No more discussion about sexual experiences in front of lively
Speaker 1: h No more further No further mentions of casting cruised Genitalia.
Speaker 2: Okay, Genitalia, I can't believe they need to have a
Speaker 2: meeting for this, like this guy's this guy is that
Speaker 2: diabolical that they had to have a meeting about the
Speaker 2: whole Like that meeting was like the video training that
Speaker 2: we have to take for sexual harassment for like the company.
Speaker 1: Lesley Snipes in it. Wow, he was in the one
Speaker 1: on My How CBS, And uh, yeah, I can't don't
Speaker 1: mention your genitalia. I know girl named Jen and that
Speaker 1: in Genitalia is her Instagram name?
Speaker 2: Is she from Italy? Just Italia, Orange County?
Speaker 1: And then uh, no further mentions of cast and cruise
Speaker 1: in Genitalia, and no more increase inquiries about Lively's weight. Hey, Blake,
Speaker 1: how much do you weigh today?
Speaker 2: Like that's his best pickup line?
Speaker 1: You're way, let's see. The filing also included other demands like,
Speaker 1: now this is the filing. Let's making demands. But she's
Speaker 1: saying this meeting took place. We don't know if if
Speaker 1: he says it took place, you know, because it's like,
Speaker 1: but if she lies in this, she's in trouble. And
Speaker 1: this is a court paper. So the the other demands
Speaker 1: included no more adding of sex scenes, oral sex or
Speaker 1: on camera climaxing by blake Lively outside the scope of
Speaker 1: the script. Blake Lively approved that she signed when when
Speaker 1: she joined the project. So yeah, I mean there's a
Speaker 1: lot of actors and actresses just won't do that in
Speaker 1: a movie. Yeah, and they're probably better off because to me,
Speaker 1: it's I've made a few movies and I would never say, like, oh,
Speaker 1: we need a sex scene here. It's like, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna assume. And then a lot of people disagree with me.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of there's a lot of critics out
Speaker 1: there that are like, this is what's wrong with movies.
Speaker 1: They don't have sex scenes anymore. And the one that
Speaker 1: they had in Oppenheimer was like everybody's talking about it
Speaker 1: because they don't have them anymore, and there and there,
Speaker 1: and why don't they have them? Who wants to direct
Speaker 1: a sex scene these days? You know? Yeah, it will
Speaker 1: come back to bite you, for lack of a better term.
Speaker 2: The room had three of them, and like two of
Speaker 2: them were exactly the same.
Speaker 1: The room. Yeah, yeah, so that guy's a pervert. Let's
Speaker 1: all be honest. Who wants to be the room the
Speaker 1: pervert going around? Hey?
Speaker 2: And it was him and all three of the sex scenes.
Speaker 1: You guys all have sex with me and you're in
Speaker 1: and we'll film it. And this guy is in the
Speaker 1: movie too. I mean, this guy is the director of
Speaker 1: the movie. So anyway, Wow, he's the director too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so okay, So that okay, Yeah, that's it,
Speaker 1: claims the demand. The demand claims, yeah that the oh.
Speaker 1: It claims in the demand that these things at the
Speaker 1: meeting were embraced by Wayfair Studios, the studio that's paying
Speaker 1: for all this, the cash and crew of It ends
Speaker 1: with us, was also under a contractual obligation to promote
Speaker 1: the film. Okay, soon after they're done, and it's a
Speaker 1: horrible experience, they have to promote the film, and they
Speaker 1: they decided nobody's going to see a movie about domestic
Speaker 1: violence that I want to. So let's concentrate on the
Speaker 1: when we're campaigning about this film, to talk more about
Speaker 1: the Lively's character's strength and her resilience, as opposed to
Speaker 1: describing the film as a story about demxus violence.
Speaker 2: And sexual harassment.
Speaker 1: Apparently they were supposed to avoid talking about this film
Speaker 1: that makes it feel sad or heavy, and I'd rather
Speaker 1: say it's a story of hope. But in the days
Speaker 1: leading up to the film's release, Baldoni pivot and began
Speaker 1: focusing on the more serious aspects of the story, and,
Speaker 1: according to the film the filing, the actor and his
Speaker 1: team did so in an effort to explain why many
Speaker 1: of the film's cast and crew unfollowed him on social
Speaker 1: media and refused to appear with him in public. Se Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't want me to talk about desert violence because
Speaker 1: it's a hard subject to talk about, and these people
Speaker 1: are cowards. I'm not, and I you know, I think
Speaker 1: so he was doing that, and they were saying that
Speaker 1: he was manipulating the whole campaign to throw a smoke
Speaker 1: screen on on what he did and just to change
Speaker 1: the topic. He says, the claims are completely false, and
Speaker 1: we will take a break here. We've got one more hour.
Speaker 1: Joe Scalante Live from Hollywood. Joe'scalante Live from Hollywood. If
Speaker 1: by Hollywood you mean Burbank, we're still talking about Justin
Speaker 1: Baldoni and Blake Lively in the movie. It ends with us. Evidently,
Speaker 1: Baldoni is also like the producer, like the studio they
Speaker 1: keep talking about way for her Studios is his company
Speaker 1: and he uh is, yes, like he's making this movie,
Speaker 1: and he's creeping the girl out, according to her, and
Speaker 1: he's making her have sex scenes and he's uh, you know,
Speaker 1: talking about his package and this this headline says Blake
Speaker 1: Lively alleges Justin Baldoni intended to use friendship with Taylor
Speaker 1: Swift against her. It's she had a she had a relationship.
Speaker 1: She's a friends with Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2: Ah, so she was weaponizing Taylor Swift in this He.
Speaker 1: Was using that against her somehow.
Speaker 2: And I don't how dare they weaponize Taylor Swift? Sorry,
Speaker 2: I can't straight face.
Speaker 1: So in the movie they were during the filming of
Speaker 1: the movie, they had to bring on crisis managers and
Speaker 1: stuff and and uh.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, bring me in for that.
Speaker 1: I'm good with that, as you could beat you could
Speaker 1: be a crisis manager. And then they each have their
Speaker 1: own PR people, saying it's just an ugly fight. So
Speaker 1: the each have the PR people, they're each you know,
Speaker 1: telling their stories. But Baldoni, the director, actor, co.
Speaker 2: Star, producer, boom mic operator.
Speaker 1: That's how I made movies, he says, these claims. We
Speaker 1: got to give him a side, you know, because this
Speaker 1: woman's either telling the truth or she create and you know,
Speaker 1: we've seen both in the in the news. These claims
Speaker 1: are completely false, he says, outrageous and intentionally salacious with
Speaker 1: the intent to publicly hurt and rehash a narrative in
Speaker 1: the media. So he's he's he's thrown out the malice.
Speaker 2: These are lies and false propaganda.
Speaker 1: We go and there's malice, according to him, But he's
Speaker 1: not suing her. But that could be the countersuit. Wayfer Studios,
Speaker 1: which is his company, made the decision to proactively hire
Speaker 1: a crisis manager prior to the marketing campaign of the
Speaker 1: film to work alongside someone else due to the multiple
Speaker 1: demands and threats by miss Lively during production, which included
Speaker 1: her threatening to not show up into the set, not
Speaker 1: to promote the film, and you know, ultimately she would
Speaker 1: try to hurt the film if her demands were not
Speaker 1: matt but you know, I mean hoarders. Her demands don't
Speaker 1: show me in naked videos anymore. It was also discovered
Speaker 1: that Miss Lively enlisted her own representative PR person to
Speaker 1: plant negative. This is what he says. They found out
Speaker 1: that she hired this PR person to plant negative and
Speaker 1: completely fabricated by the way, and false by the way.
Speaker 1: Stories with the media even prior to any marketing commenced
Speaker 1: for the film, which was another reason that Wayfer Studios
Speaker 1: made the decision to quo hire a crisis professional to
Speaker 1: commence internal scenario planning in the case blah blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. Now there was talk of
Speaker 1: a sequel.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was going to be called It Ends in Litigation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they did have a title, it starts with Us,
Speaker 1: but based on the second novel in the series.
Speaker 2: Oh so it.
Speaker 1: Starts, it ends with us. It starts with us.
Speaker 2: And then the third it ends in a courtroom.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to see this movie. I'll just tell
Speaker 1: you that right now. I just just don't want to.
Speaker 1: And I said that, uh now, speaking of movies that
Speaker 1: are like, like, you've seen this stuff about the.
Speaker 3: Snow White, what about snow White?
Speaker 1: About the the star of snow White talking uh too
Speaker 1: much in the media and getting and then they h
Speaker 1: everybody getting mad and boy getting ready for a big giant,
Speaker 1: good old fashioned right wing boycott of this movie.
Speaker 2: I have not seen this. What happened?
Speaker 1: You don't know about this? No, I mean you got
Speaker 1: heads in the sand. We've talked about it a little bit.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: The actress that plays snow White uh in the in
Speaker 1: this version of the movie, which is a you know remake,
Speaker 1: is uh Rachel Ziggler, and she's a lovely uh actress,
Speaker 1: but she keeps talking about like, yeah, that old stuff
Speaker 1: for the guy saves the girl. We're not doing any
Speaker 1: of that. Then people right away are just like, oh, go,
Speaker 1: here it comes and uh. And then they released pictures
Speaker 1: of the of the Seven Dwarfs and it looked like
Speaker 1: a DEI meeting or something like everybody was diverse, and
Speaker 1: people like, oh, here we go. And then they couldn't
Speaker 1: use actual little people because that would be offensive to
Speaker 1: give seven little people jobs. I think Peter Dinklich had
Speaker 1: something to say about that. Uh. And then so they
Speaker 1: they I guess the the the Dwarfs look so bad
Speaker 1: that they had to reshoot everything and put digital dwarves
Speaker 1: in it. So now they're not real people. They're just
Speaker 1: digital wacky wack geek cartoon people. And then people are
Speaker 1: looking at that and saying.
Speaker 2: Can't we just go that's terrible, just leave the cartoons
Speaker 2: be I mean, really, do we need to real We
Speaker 2: don't need to see gi re create live action every
Speaker 2: single Disney classic. Are they gonna do Fantasia next?
Speaker 1: That's funny.
Speaker 2: I'm waiting for very realistic hippos and Tutus at this point.
Speaker 2: If I don't have that by the end of the decade,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be throwing stuff.
Speaker 1: Well, if more people would just go to the movies,
Speaker 1: then we wouldn't have this problem. Because the only way
Speaker 1: you can make money on a movie, you know, you
Speaker 1: have to make a one hundred million dollar movie to
Speaker 1: you know, make it just break even. And then you
Speaker 1: let's say you spend two hundred on the movie and
Speaker 1: two hundred on the print and marketing and stuff, and
Speaker 1: then you have so you got to have four hundred
Speaker 1: dollars four hundred million dollar movie worldwide to just break even.
Speaker 1: Then you're making you know, And then if you want
Speaker 1: to make movie, you're gonna make and then let's say
Speaker 1: you just barely make some money on that, and it's
Speaker 1: five hundred million dollars that you make, you made a
Speaker 1: hundred million profit. Now, if you make smaller movies that
Speaker 1: aren't based on rehashed ideas, they're gonna make you know,
Speaker 1: you could make it for ten million, and then you
Speaker 1: could make forty million at the box office and you
Speaker 1: made thirty million. Oh that's a triple. That's tripling your money.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: But it's no one hundred million. No.
Speaker 2: They're going for the knockouts for every big punch that
Speaker 2: they can land, and they're throwing whatever they can at
Speaker 2: the wall, you know, sacred goats, sacred cowsby damned.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this would looks I mean, it's there's so
Speaker 1: many haters on the internet for this one. I mean
Speaker 1: to me, it's just like, again, yeah, you can disagree
Speaker 1: with what they're doing, but do you have to make
Speaker 1: like two hundred hours of podcasts about it? It's why
Speaker 1: did we start talking about this?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's like gal Gadot is in it too, like.
Speaker 2: As herself or as the voice of something. She's the
Speaker 2: queen as herself physically.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like the queen. Okay, okay, So people are
Speaker 1: saying she's uh, overshadowing Zigler, and they're using her to
Speaker 1: market the movie because she is. I know, I always
Speaker 1: started talking about this. They're usual, they're kind of uh,
Speaker 1: this is the what people are saying. They're using Galga
Speaker 1: doot on the marketing more than Rachel Zego because Ziggler
Speaker 1: is now hated by uh, you know, half the country.
Speaker 1: So she uh, I she'll learn, she'll learn her lesson
Speaker 1: on this, I imagine, because you've got to because you can.
Speaker 1: You can talk too much sometimes if you're promoting a
Speaker 1: movie and you're just like, you got to be a robot.
Speaker 1: But some people, like when you start do marketing and
Speaker 1: you start, you don't want to be like everybody else,
Speaker 1: So you say, like, I'm not gonna be by everybody else.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna speak my mind because I have a personal
Speaker 1: personality that's amazing, and so I'm gonna share it with everybody.
Speaker 1: And then after you put your foot in your mouth,
Speaker 1: you go, I guess this is why you're supposed to
Speaker 1: give bland answers so you don't wreck your career. And
Speaker 1: then now people talking about movies just becomes like another
Speaker 1: like clickbait and headline. James Gunn says Battered Superman in
Speaker 1: new film represents the US. Now what rud right, It's
Speaker 1: a broken country and Superman is broken. Now we're gonna
Speaker 1: hear about fights about that. But it seems like he's
Speaker 1: saying that, like, hey, there are good people on both
Speaker 1: sides of in ideologies and politics and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So I don't really know where this is going to
Speaker 1: end up. But Superman, I would say James Gunn is
Speaker 1: capable of making a good Superman, right, wouldn't you. I've
Speaker 1: given up.
Speaker 2: I've given up hope on DC doing anything productive in
Speaker 2: the film realm.
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean I think that's fair. What about Bobby
Speaker 1: Williams is a monkey?
Speaker 2: If he is as one of like the like the
Speaker 2: band the Monkey, cool. If it's him as Lancelot link
Speaker 2: style cool. If it's just him playing with monkeys and.
Speaker 1: Men, well, we'll get to that one later, okay. And
Speaker 1: then let's see before that though, remember this story about
Speaker 1: Ron Meyer from a Universal. He was the executive vice
Speaker 1: chairman and then he found out he was fooling around
Speaker 1: and then making payments to this uh uh what do
Speaker 1: you call her? Some angeneu a angue Charlotte Kirk, and
Speaker 1: then he lost his whole job as executive vice chairman
Speaker 1: of Universal. The new wrinkling, that is, he was also
Speaker 1: diddling her manager. I'll show you a picture, like you know,
Speaker 1: it's just like, you know, hey, why not a good first?
Speaker 1: I got that one. But the problem is he was married,
Speaker 1: and it just was like not wow, cool.
Speaker 2: Oh I thought he was just single and diddling. Now
Speaker 2: he's like married and double diddling, triple diddling.
Speaker 1: He was just you know, living his worst life. Let's
Speaker 1: go break all right, Joe's Galante Live from Hollywood. Joe
Speaker 1: was Galante Live from Hollywood. If by Hollywood you mean
Speaker 1: burd Bank. Hey, coming to Leader in the show. We're
Speaker 1: going to talk about a Dell who has a song
Speaker 1: that uh is uh she been accused of plagiarizing it,
Speaker 1: and then we'll sam we can do that. We can
Speaker 1: maybe play the song and everyone can hear it and
Speaker 1: decide whether they think it's plagiarized.
Speaker 2: I love it whenever we go in and figure out
Speaker 2: if like these songs have like we figured it out.
Speaker 2: I think we figured it out back in the day
Speaker 2: when Robin Thick or Alan well, Alan think's kid Robin Thick.
Speaker 1: That one Williams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they did the Marvin Gaye one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that one was wrongly decided in the in the
Speaker 1: lower courts. All right, we'll get into that a little
Speaker 1: bit later. Do you remember the college admission scandal? Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, back in the day, Laurie Laughlin, what was a
Speaker 2: lifetime Channel veteran.
Speaker 1: It's a full house star. She served two months in prison,
Speaker 1: and I remember them. I mean they were it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, you made a mistake, and then they were
Speaker 1: just being dragged across the through the mud in the media,
Speaker 1: and you know, they're were just really torn apart, and
Speaker 1: I think she was mad, you know. And then she
Speaker 1: went to prison for two months. And then now she's
Speaker 1: playing a law enforcement officer in an upcoming series on
Speaker 1: Prime Video called on Call, and she plays Lieutenant Bishop.
Speaker 1: I think that's her character in that one. And now
Speaker 1: she says she likes law enforcement. That's the news, like
Speaker 1: anybody anything. She says, it's like, yeah, I have a
Speaker 1: new appreciation for law enforcement because I'm now playing cops.
Speaker 1: She had to go on a lot of ride alongs
Speaker 1: and are you going to be watching on Call?
Speaker 2: So she's now a playing a police officer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Wow. I don't think I'm gonna watch that.
Speaker 1: There's too many things to.
Speaker 2: Watch, No, too many things to watch, and I just
Speaker 2: can't take that much irony. I'm a big fan of irony,
Speaker 2: just not that much.
Speaker 1: Too much. What's the new show with Harrison Ford. It's
Speaker 1: about analysts or psychiatrist or something like that. Do you
Speaker 1: know about this one?
Speaker 2: No, this sounds amazing though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm mentioning it to you because I know you're
Speaker 1: in that business.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, is he a therapist or a lawyers called shrinking?
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, so I have heard. It's very very good.
Speaker 1: Him and Jason Siegel are therapist.
Speaker 2: So fascinating. There was that other show that what was it?
Speaker 2: There was a therapist show that had the guy from
Speaker 2: the office in it, the main guy from the office.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And that one was intriguing because he became
Speaker 2: he like was kidnapped by one of his patients who
Speaker 2: was psychotic and had was locked in his basement as
Speaker 2: the guy did crazy things and then came home to
Speaker 2: be animals, which was interesting.
Speaker 1: But the best analyst movie of all time? What about Bob.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, easily, that one is one of
Speaker 2: the funniest movies ever made. And you can totally like
Speaker 2: doing what I do. You could totally picture some of
Speaker 2: your clients pulling that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Showing up at your home. Oh yeah, well, it's very
Speaker 1: similar to when Robert de Niro showed up at Jerry
Speaker 1: Lewis's house in the film that I the Uh. I
Speaker 1: told you to watch it a little bit ago. Do
Speaker 1: you remember Jerry Lewis movie Jerry Lewis Robert de Niro,
Speaker 1: It's called The King of Comedy and oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: insist everybody that comes back.
Speaker 2: That's right, you're talking about this one.
Speaker 1: You must see it. Okay, it's on Prime video right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so watch it. You're gonna like this movie, yeah, because
Speaker 1: it's it's these people are are disturbed and disordered and
Speaker 1: and weird, and it's about the search for fame and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, like I want to be famous kind
Speaker 1: of thing, and those are you know, I like those
Speaker 1: kind of movies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and definitely anything that goes into like the
Speaker 2: mental health aspect of stuff like that, and especially for
Speaker 2: comedy brilliant. It sounds like something I need to watch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna see that and then see if I
Speaker 1: have anything else for you. I don't think I think
Speaker 1: I'm done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go. Even the monitors are giving up on us.
Speaker 1: For people that are not subscribed to the premium club
Speaker 1: of the show and can't see the studios, we have
Speaker 1: these giant lizards around that are walking around that he's
Speaker 1: talking about. Yes, that's what you're talking about, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, not actual computer monitors. I'm talking about like monitored.
Speaker 1: Reptiles, monitor reptile. Ye.
Speaker 2: Way, they are giving up, they're walking.
Speaker 1: Out, all right, So I'm we're gonna go to break.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's just take a break. Let's just take a break.
Speaker 2: Let me see if I can squeeze some stuff in
Speaker 2: here so that we can make it a full break. Yeah,
Speaker 2: how about that break? Okay, here we go. Good luck
Speaker 2: to us all.
Speaker 1: Joe Ascalanti live from Hollywood by Hollywood, you mean bur Bank,
Speaker 1: two hours of the Business, end of show Business, and
Speaker 1: we are live tonight. It is December twenty second, it's
Speaker 1: six thirty five in the evening, and we are. We
Speaker 1: had some technical issues because we were trying to set
Speaker 1: up this this this Adele song. Adele is being sued
Speaker 1: for plagiarizing an old not an old song with some
Speaker 1: of the nineties a Brazilian classic though by Martino.
Speaker 2: And the audio or the link that I got is
Speaker 2: one that has just a picture. So I'm going to
Speaker 2: find the the audio itself myself.
Speaker 1: Okay, you got to use that one though, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well no, it's just the one that you sent me
Speaker 2: is just a picture.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna send it to you again. Then how's that?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Perfect, we can do that, and then it's I'm pushing
Speaker 1: your address here, s M.
Speaker 2: That one, yes, s M. Not to be suggestive. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that one with the last name before the thirty two.
Speaker 2: You could just hit the scent button and it'll pop
Speaker 2: up and you can just send it to that one again. Also,
Speaker 2: I saw this one headline here that the what was it? YouTube?
Speaker 2: More people are getting their news off of YouTube, never
Speaker 2: before and it's never going back.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what we're doing right now. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: did I say to you. I said, go to YouTube.
Speaker 1: That's where we're gonna find the best information about Adele
Speaker 1: and this song. Because they're gonna go someone will have
Speaker 1: done a mashup. Yeah see, And then I mean you're
Speaker 1: going to YouTube. You know you're gonna find it and
Speaker 1: you get it. And then YouTube, to me is where
Speaker 1: for the vandals. I've told our social media guy, stop
Speaker 1: what you're doing. You just start developing our YouTube channel
Speaker 1: that kind of sits there and does nothing, because that's
Speaker 1: where people are. That's where I am there.
Speaker 2: I think I found this one.
Speaker 1: Pay I pay for the full YouTube thing, which seems silly,
Speaker 1: but it's worth it.
Speaker 2: Now that's the guy who they're saying that.
Speaker 1: She's the original guy. Yeah, nineteen ninety five, and that's
Speaker 1: her singing over his music.
Speaker 2: This would be in move to earn my styles after
Speaker 2: pay my lads.
Speaker 5: Together.
Speaker 1: Okay, keep turning it down a little bit. That didn't
Speaker 1: sound like anything that did. That was just authentic, frontier gibberish.
Speaker 1: But then when she comes back in, you're going, now
Speaker 1: this sounds so familiar. Okay, Now I'm going, yeah, what's.
Speaker 2: This reminding me of? There's another song that both of
Speaker 2: these songs are reminding me of.
Speaker 5: What we'll say?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, this song is famous. People know it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: try to find try to find his song just by itself.
Speaker 1: Find a version, find a version. It's just him doing
Speaker 1: that song, this one. I mean, because I want to
Speaker 1: make a decision here. Yeah, let me hear the guys,
Speaker 1: let me hear mister Martino da villa.
Speaker 2: Well, let me get the actual song name first.
Speaker 1: Martin, it's called Women.
Speaker 2: Yes, let's see here we go said to me. I
Speaker 2: don't know. All I know is we have to wait
Speaker 2: for anything.
Speaker 1: I know. Oh, you got to pay for YouTube. That's
Speaker 1: what I do.
Speaker 2: I just don't have it on my work computer.
Speaker 1: You gotta pay for YouTube.
Speaker 2: There you go, Let me get rid of via dell one.
Speaker 2: There we go and a dodge?
Speaker 4: Is that? That sounds like a different songs that preceded
Speaker 4: this one?
Speaker 1: Okay? Now let's now let's play her song, just a
Speaker 1: clean version of her song. They're all over YouTube. Okay,
Speaker 1: because what what's going on? While you find that? I'm
Speaker 1: going to tell you what's going on in the court system.
Speaker 1: The courts has said she has to respond. She he
Speaker 1: filed a preliminary injunction. So when you have when you
Speaker 1: have something like this, first she might ask for money
Speaker 1: and say stop doing that and give me Reddit.
Speaker 2: Learning to Fly Learning duram I let my it's the
Speaker 2: same cadence.
Speaker 1: I'm here because I'm trying to make a decision here
Speaker 1: that it's going to affect humanity.
Speaker 2: I must have always known that this would be inevitable.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, you can get rid of it. The
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a preliminary injunction. It's they're seeking a
Speaker 1: preliminary injunction. Now, preliminary injunction would stop her from distributing it,
Speaker 1: and they'd have to tell the label and all the
Speaker 1: streamers you can't play this song anymore anywhere. I don't
Speaker 1: know what kind of a power a kangaroo court in
Speaker 1: Brazil has, but they are that's what their The court
Speaker 1: would rule that, and if you didn't do it, then
Speaker 1: there'd be some consequences. In Brazil, they can't really do
Speaker 1: anything to you to hear, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: any services or aggregators would stop playing it, but that's
Speaker 1: what they're looking for. So there has to be enough
Speaker 1: to where the judge goes, Okay, there might be something here.
Speaker 1: I'm going to grant the preliminary injunction. Now if she wins,
Speaker 1: if he wins, you get a permanent injunction. So if
Speaker 1: to give a temporary injunction, there had to be like
Speaker 1: the judge would have to go, you know, there might
Speaker 1: be something here, so I could see I think there's
Speaker 1: maybe enough to move forward to have a trial. But
Speaker 1: because in the t but I wouldn't give a temporary
Speaker 1: injunction because I think, you know, there's a case here,
Speaker 1: but okay, let's go hash it out. But not like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop adele from You know, it's not that
Speaker 1: bad because, as you said, it sounds like some other song.
Speaker 2: It sounds like the song from the stage show and
Speaker 2: I guess the movie Phantom of the Opera. It sounds
Speaker 2: like Phantom of the Opera. Danaananana, Nana Nana has the
Speaker 2: exact same cadence. And so if they're gonna pay anybody,
Speaker 2: they need to go and pay the people that did
Speaker 2: Phantom of the Opera.
Speaker 1: Mister Andrew Lloyd Webber, Yes, that's.
Speaker 2: Just sir, and yes he's been knighted.
Speaker 1: He was, so I think he was. That.
Speaker 2: See, that's the thing right now, I think we just
Speaker 2: shot both of their cases.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, well it's Venom of the Opera. Why don't
Speaker 1: you play some Fantom of the Empera.
Speaker 3: I see if I can dig it out that one. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's not that's still her.
Speaker 2: I need to get I need a computer with something
Speaker 2: I can figure out exactly here. I'll play it for
Speaker 2: them coming out of this next break. Let's break time.
Speaker 2: I think it's Fandom of the Opera.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll play Fantom in the Opera. We'll see
Speaker 1: if if we've just already solved this case, as it is,
Speaker 1: but I definitely wouldn't give give I wouldn't give a
Speaker 1: preliminary injunction. But I think what might be going on
Speaker 1: here is a judge in Brazil trying to become famous
Speaker 1: himself because he can have his power and he's in
Speaker 1: the news, and so if he's if he doesn't, granted
Speaker 1: it's kind of you could still have a trial without
Speaker 1: having that, but you know, if he stops it, he's
Speaker 1: some kind of hero to a lot of people that
Speaker 1: hate Adele.
Speaker 3: And I think that Adele that much.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean the people now it plays into the
Speaker 1: you know, this is under privileged country or third world
Speaker 1: or whatever it is down there. It's a freaking crime. Ah,
Speaker 1: it's a crime. Uh what do you call what I
Speaker 1: used to call it. I used to call it like
Speaker 1: a crime scene with a country code Brazil. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's so much crime down there. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: you know, great things going on too, but it could
Speaker 1: be known for you know, they're underdogs and then Dall's
Speaker 1: coming in and she's a white person trying to steal
Speaker 1: from these people. That's a narrative that the media likes,
Speaker 1: so I could see why it's it's got legs but
Speaker 1: you would have to go to trial because you need
Speaker 1: to break it down. You need to break down this
Speaker 1: song and see and the proper way to do it
Speaker 1: is say what was the copyright that was? What was
Speaker 1: wrong with that other one. We'll take a break, we'll
Speaker 1: review the Pharrell case to Joe Sclante Live from Hollywood,
Speaker 1: Joe Scolante Live from Hollywood. If by Hollywood you mean
Speaker 1: Burt Bank. It is two hours of the business, end
Speaker 1: of show business, and we do this every Sunday at five.
Speaker 1: If you're listening to this live, yeah it's fifty we're
Speaker 1: almost out of here. If you're listening to it on
Speaker 1: the podcast, sorry it so long. But Sam here, when
Speaker 1: we were going over the songs of the Adele song
Speaker 1: and the Brazilian guy Martino da Villa, he says she
Speaker 1: stole his song when she has her song called a
Speaker 1: Million years Ago. It was a very good song. It's
Speaker 1: like a popular song. And he says he filed a
Speaker 1: for a temporary restraining order or a junction for for
Speaker 1: that song to be ever played anywhere, so it's gonna
Speaker 1: be like band or whatever. I don't know how they
Speaker 1: enforce all that around the world, but you know, the
Speaker 1: problem is that, well, Sam caught it right away when
Speaker 1: I when I heard when I heard the two songs
Speaker 1: go side by side, and you can see this on
Speaker 1: YouTube or hear it on YouTube. There to me, it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: they sound similar. So if you really, you know, go
Speaker 1: ahead and plead your case. Plead your case and these
Speaker 1: guys can answer it. And then if we have a trial,
Speaker 1: the jury will be able to listen to the two
Speaker 1: songs side by side. But what was wrong with the
Speaker 1: Pharrell side is they had Marvin gay had copyrighted just
Speaker 1: the sheet music, so that's all it's protected, is the
Speaker 1: sheet music, and so they should have brought in, like,
Speaker 1: you know, a guy with the piano play the sheet
Speaker 1: music or a combo play the sheet music, and the
Speaker 1: jury would listen to that, then they would listen to
Speaker 1: Pharrell's song. But they didn't. They were out allowed to
Speaker 1: do side by side from the finished products. So they
Speaker 1: listened to the Marvin Gaye's finish product and they were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like the way this is, the you know the
Speaker 1: feel of this, and I'm influenced by Marvin gay like
Speaker 1: everybody else, and I'm gonna lay that down on my
Speaker 1: own tracks that's not illegal, and that court declared that illegal.
Speaker 1: And what you can't steal is the stuff that's protected.
Speaker 1: You can only protected stuff is protected. That's why it's
Speaker 1: called protected. So Marvin Pharrell, Williams and Robin Thick were ruined,
Speaker 1: not ruined, but it was just probably the worse.
Speaker 2: You know, Robin Thick, you don't hear from anymore. Farrell,
Speaker 2: he's a genius and he can come up with anything
Speaker 2: he wants.
Speaker 1: But it was just like probably the worst period in
Speaker 1: the period in their professional lives. And it was a
Speaker 1: sham because they were sued and defeated for taking things
Speaker 1: that aren't protected. So in this case, you could have
Speaker 1: a trial and say what's not protected or what is
Speaker 1: protected and try to make that clear and then say
Speaker 1: did Adele steal that? And I would say it's you
Speaker 1: know ed. Jury could come out either way. Maybe I
Speaker 1: don't think it's that strong. It's just one of those
Speaker 1: things where I like to say, like, really, so she
Speaker 1: should have been prevented from writing that amazing song she
Speaker 1: wrote that everybody loves so much because of the law,
Speaker 1: you know, or she has to go to him and
Speaker 1: try to get a sample rate from him. Uh, I
Speaker 1: don't think that we want to live in that world.
Speaker 1: We just want people to be a little bit influenced.
Speaker 1: And is that hurting hurt him? Is he stealing customers
Speaker 1: from him? And so he would get more streams if
Speaker 1: she hadn't written that song and stealing all his all
Speaker 1: his wealth.
Speaker 2: I guarantee you he got more plays on YouTube as
Speaker 2: a result of this.
Speaker 1: We just gave him money. Yeah, So I don't think
Speaker 1: it's a sin what she did, and I don't think
Speaker 1: she should be prosecuted for it. But then Sam came
Speaker 1: and said, you know what, I think that uh Brazilian
Speaker 1: guy stole that wy don't you play the.
Speaker 2: Song folks in a sleepy sang.
Speaker 1: In? All right, just stop it right there now play
Speaker 1: a little uh of that guy.
Speaker 2: Now, I'll play that guy.
Speaker 1: Let's see if I can catch it out of spots
Speaker 1: that age.
Speaker 2: So don't say that Moulage got this jes to catch it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not yet. Keep going. Imagine whom I dallish And
Speaker 1: this isn't part It sounds like adel right here.
Speaker 2: Anyway, this part sounds you need to come to itself.
Speaker 5: They thought that that.
Speaker 1: We're in a spot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll started from earlier Okay, there.
Speaker 2: We go, Shachil.
Speaker 5: You thought as a swoosh is dodge, I'm woodish.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing's feeling either one. But my Adele, now here
Speaker 2: we go, Adele, we won't to. Yeah, there's much more
Speaker 2: similarity between these two family the opera one.
Speaker 1: Do you think they're more similar than the family?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, turn it off again. So you think they're more
Speaker 1: similar to each other than they are similar to found them.
Speaker 2: In the opera similar, much more.
Speaker 1: But so you're saying your family the opera theory.
Speaker 2: Is and his not near doesn't hold as much water.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it might be worth going to court and
Speaker 1: saying listen, and if you manipulated it like the way
Speaker 1: they do on YouTube, it might go like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: what of that part? Why why don't why doesn't this
Speaker 1: guy pay them for that little part right there? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I uh so I I but she has to answer.
Speaker 1: If she doesn't answer, then the thing gets taken off
Speaker 1: of all these you know, services, and she's got a
Speaker 1: judgment against her because I think there's a fine involved
Speaker 1: or something, and then she has to go down and
Speaker 1: to the Brazilian kangaroo court. You know, it's not really
Speaker 1: a kangaroo court. I don't know anything about it, but amount.
Speaker 2: Of money that she makes. Throw the guy at half
Speaker 2: a mill and he'll be happy.
Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. This guy doesn't deserve a half
Speaker 1: a million dollars if she didn't steal anything.
Speaker 2: If she didn't know. But that's that.
Speaker 1: We should half a million dollars. It takes me more
Speaker 1: than a month to make that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, that's amazing.
Speaker 1: I'm kidding.
Speaker 2: I need I need that kind.
Speaker 1: Of So it what you well, what if he wins?
Speaker 1: He gets credit and he gets a retroactive payments back
Speaker 1: three years. So that's the len You can't go back
Speaker 1: in the US copyright, at least you can't go back
Speaker 1: more than three years. So you do you look at
Speaker 1: you would give him credit and then you would give
Speaker 1: him a share. They would like. The best thing they
Speaker 1: would do he could hope for, I think, is to
Speaker 1: negotiate a penny rate they call it, and then he
Speaker 1: would get that going forward and he would get credit
Speaker 1: and that would.
Speaker 2: What do he get like credit on the YouTube video
Speaker 2: views and stuff.
Speaker 1: Like that on the song area? Wow, okay, I mean
Speaker 1: he'd be entered in the system. This song would be
Speaker 1: taken out of every system and put back as co authors.
Speaker 2: Interesting, Okay, So in.
Speaker 1: Sound exchange you don't have to know not sound exchange
Speaker 1: because sound exchange just covers the recording of it, and
Speaker 1: he's not he's not suing over the recording. He's suing
Speaker 1: over the underlying rights the composition.
Speaker 2: See, that's a lot of intricate, like legal active stuff
Speaker 2: going on underneath this, like behind the scenes with all
Speaker 2: of the stuff.
Speaker 1: It's probably not that much money because it only goes
Speaker 1: back three years. You know, it's probably not more money
Speaker 1: than he's going to spend on this legal case. He's
Speaker 1: gonna spend more money in legal case, and he's gonna
Speaker 1: get going back three years. But in the future he
Speaker 1: gets royalties. Okay, And in the future, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you know, this hasn't happened yet, so you know
Speaker 1: he'll get that.
Speaker 2: So if they decide, like say, for example, they want
Speaker 2: to use this song in a film, would they have
Speaker 2: to go then to get permission from him as well
Speaker 2: as a co writer.
Speaker 1: As a co author, they need the if the co
Speaker 1: ofthers can make non exclusive deals as long as the
Speaker 1: account to the other the other one to the other person,
Speaker 1: but exclusive deals like maybe like exclusive, like putting in
Speaker 1: a movie it's exclusive. Yeah, I think you got to like,
Speaker 1: if you're saying, oh, I'm gonna sell this to a publisher,
Speaker 1: is gonna have exclusive rights to all this? You have
Speaker 1: to have the other guys. I'm just doing a bad
Speaker 1: way of explaining that. But there is ways for a
Speaker 1: co author to make certain deals without talking to the
Speaker 1: other person. But they would probably make an arrangement to
Speaker 1: have a third party handle licensing of this song going
Speaker 1: forward so they don't have fights all the time. And
Speaker 1: I think it's time for me just leave everybody with
Speaker 1: just a taste of the greatest song ever written. That
Speaker 1: that if you steal any of this straight to jail, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you steal the chorus straight to jail. Still the verse
Speaker 1: straight to jail. You steal too much of it straight
Speaker 1: straight to jail. You're still too little of it Straight
Speaker 1: to jail. All right, Joe's Conte Live from Hollywood. See
Speaker 1: you next week.