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Speaker 3: The Devil's Digest. We holds up a pretty frequent guest,
Speaker 3: especially when Arizona faces Arizona State from time to time. Right,
Speaker 3: so that game Saturday, eleven o'clock, we're already complaining. You know,
Speaker 3: I bitch about the you A fans being how they
Speaker 3: are you know, Oh no, yeah, you know everything, and
Speaker 3: some yeah, well I know more. I guess I'd bitch
Speaker 3: about a lot of things too, and I don't, I
Speaker 3: really don't. And you know, but now I either have
Speaker 3: to get up really early. We all have to get up.
Speaker 3: Get everybody. I'm not a little but we get there
Speaker 3: an hour before yet and then UH and then come back,
Speaker 3: which is fine, no problem, it's going to see a
Speaker 3: good game. Uh. Well, let's let's not I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: do any breaking news, so let's do some breaking news. Now.
Speaker 3: What happened with basketball recruiting here?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, Elijah Arenas UH decided to reclassify at
Speaker 4: Arizona Louisville USC. I think uh US is on that list.
Speaker 4: I want to say, like Arkansas, you know, some other team.
Speaker 4: Arizona was the favorite to land them because but because
Speaker 4: of Gilbert Arenas having the ties.
Speaker 3: But that's the only there's the only remain reasons.
Speaker 4: And he did take some visits to Tucson and that
Speaker 4: relationship seemed pretty good with UH Gilbert and coach Tommy
Speaker 4: Lloyd from where it was previously when Tommy Lloyd got hired.
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, you have to
Speaker 4: look at Nil and the fact that Arenas as a family,
Speaker 4: they are a Adidas family. Arizona's a Nike school, so
Speaker 4: you have that factored in. So that's why Louisville was
Speaker 4: maybe the slight favorite against Arizona, but now it's USC.
Speaker 3: He's headed to USC and at the end of the day.
Speaker 4: It's an I l I'm sure there's a nice nil
Speaker 4: package for mister Arenas waiting in southern California.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I didn't break my heart. I was neither
Speaker 3: here nor there for me covering the team. He would
Speaker 3: have been kind of crazy with Gilbert here a lot.
Speaker 3: But you know, let's just be saying that too bad.
Speaker 3: And I know a lot of people are disappointed.
Speaker 4: I mean, very talented player, but I don't think this
Speaker 4: is the you can't miss guy. The can't miss guy
Speaker 4: is Colled Pete. Still, no matter the recification really for
Speaker 4: Tommy and this recruiting because number one player in the
Speaker 4: state of Arizona, top ten player in the country. You know,
Speaker 4: I think Arenas when they reclassified, he was in the
Speaker 4: top ten as well. But you're talking about a six
Speaker 4: ' nine, six y ten power forward that can dribble
Speaker 4: the ball up, has some passing ability, and in this
Speaker 4: day and age of basketball, where you can go position
Speaker 4: with and play him, you know, let's say three through five,
Speaker 4: play them at different positions. That's a real asset to
Speaker 4: have on any team. And he was here what two
Speaker 4: three weeks ago, three.
Speaker 3: Weeks ago playing He's on high Okay and did fairly well.
Speaker 3: I guess you get in foul trouble had around twenty
Speaker 3: two points. He looks a little body wise to walk
Speaker 3: Townsend in between maybe uh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think a little bit more I don't want
Speaker 4: to say skill, but a little bit more balanced.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about physical. Yeah, just the way he looks. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: probably much better than those two. Yeah.
Speaker 4: You know an another one that he kind of reminds
Speaker 4: me of is maybe a little bit of a Brandon
Speaker 4: Nashley the degree in terms of the body.
Speaker 3: Okay, so the length less less uh less bulky I
Speaker 3: saw him on tape. To me, it's just kind of
Speaker 3: strong being.
Speaker 4: He's strong, but I don't I think there's room to
Speaker 4: grow there in terms of the strength.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well, so we'll keep an eye on that one.
Speaker 3: And then and you guys can lament that Arenas Arenas
Speaker 3: kild didn't come here.
Speaker 4: How much do you think Arizona fans are panicing if
Speaker 4: Arena's not going?
Speaker 3: I don't so I don't give a crap about and
Speaker 3: I don't give a crap, which means zero to one
Speaker 3: percent of who we're recruiting, because you know, I've seen
Speaker 3: stars come here and don't turn into stars. I've seen TJ.
Speaker 3: Mccotto come in, who was in the Star become the
Speaker 3: best player in the last ten years or whatever decade,
Speaker 3: ten or plus plastic. So to me, recruiting means nothing.
Speaker 3: How much are they those who followed, Probably you are
Speaker 3: because they're a bunch of sorry to say, Detroit, a
Speaker 3: bunch of geeks like you guys. And I say that
Speaker 3: because that's what you do, that's what you do. You
Speaker 3: would have a better gauge of that than me. But
Speaker 3: to me and that friend of mine, one of our
Speaker 3: callers texting me, you know, sad saying sad, disappointed or whatever,
Speaker 3: and I'm thinking, there's there's always another bus, there's always
Speaker 3: another woman coming around the corner, you know.
Speaker 4: Okay, good, good for now. I think he will be talented.
Speaker 4: But I remember back in the day when Mike baby
Speaker 4: son decided to go somewhere else and everybody started panting it.
Speaker 3: He was not good. He wasn't he wasn't great, he
Speaker 3: wasn't good at all. Yeah, we know this kid is, yes,
Speaker 3: he is very but I think this and we already
Speaker 3: we're already going to see the lebron kid come here Bryce. Yeah, right,
Speaker 3: So he was taken for one of these reasons, right,
Speaker 3: because he's close with Arenas is close, Yeah, very close.
Speaker 4: And he's closer with a bunch of other recruits that
Speaker 4: you know will be in twenty five, twenty six and
Speaker 4: so on and so.
Speaker 3: Forth, so they might help for down the road, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I thought that was some of the purpose of him committee.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's to me, it's mostly the purpose.
Speaker 4: I mean, you look at Bryce James, and he's a
Speaker 4: high three star recruit. I don't think he starts on
Speaker 4: his high school team still was averaging five six points
Speaker 4: a game. He's he's not a guy that you're gonna
Speaker 4: plug in and he's gonna play right away.
Speaker 3: He's going to be here for a while. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: and and for a while, and it may not go
Speaker 3: beyond this place.
Speaker 4: No, And honestly, in my opinion right now, does not
Speaker 4: have the talent for the NBA level, but has his eye,
Speaker 4: so maybe he grows into that. But it's going to
Speaker 4: be a project. Yeah, yeah, we'll see. I mean, and
Speaker 4: that's not a bad thing. It's just it is what
Speaker 4: it is. It is what it is, and it may
Speaker 4: be the process that Brownie could have used when he
Speaker 4: was at USC in terms of a process, but he
Speaker 4: was a much higher level recruit, a little bit more talent.
Speaker 4: And you know how the buzz going on that.
Speaker 3: Well, there's no boar buzz. No, there's no bore buzzer.
Speaker 3: I think he got some playing time recently and it
Speaker 3: wasn't very good. Yeah, I think.
Speaker 4: I think he had fifteen minutes and went like two
Speaker 4: for twelve too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and just didn't have that Jenniser Couah on the court. No.
Speaker 3: I mean he's young. He should still be in college,
Speaker 3: to be honest, and he was barely in college when
Speaker 3: he played. I mean he barely played when he was
Speaker 3: in college. Yeah, so we'll see. That's why I don't
Speaker 3: like recruit and I don't really you know, Okay, good
Speaker 3: players blah blah. So we'll see. If you're a fan,
Speaker 3: if you're a recruit follower, give me a call. Five
Speaker 3: two oh four one six seventy four forty. Let let
Speaker 3: us know how you feel about that. Vic. I know
Speaker 3: you're out there. You could contrary. You can be my
Speaker 3: contrary and tell me I'm full of it because you've
Speaker 3: seen it. How are they? How are the fans?
Speaker 4: You know, fans get frustrated when they don't see the
Speaker 4: stars right there, the number of four or five stars whatever.
Speaker 4: You looked at Jeed Fish's recruiting class where this is
Speaker 4: a football comparison, where they got the Tetro macmillan. Everybody's
Speaker 4: so excited, But the rest of that class was so
Speaker 4: darn good. They had so many guys that were low
Speaker 4: three stars, high two stars. Like was a high three star.
Speaker 4: Nobody wanted him because he was five foot whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but you watch the taping, like, I don't believe in
Speaker 4: that stuff either. I don't believe in the stuff. And
Speaker 4: Josh Passoner Bliss's heart, who I think the world of
Speaker 4: was that guy. He chased great players, very five star
Speaker 4: for his stars didn't help him. Didn't help him because well,
Speaker 4: you got to.
Speaker 3: Coach the kids.
Speaker 4: You need a mix. You needed the proper mix of
Speaker 4: how it fits into yours staff.
Speaker 3: And that's why Luke did what he did so well.
Speaker 3: You know, he got a couple of guys the Richard
Speaker 3: Jefferson's and babies and found people around him that could
Speaker 3: get better from them, you know, and might be made
Speaker 3: everybody better. Richard just played because he was talented, uh,
Speaker 3: and helped, you know, he had Luke and he had
Speaker 3: arch A Riot and he had lour Woods and those guys.
Speaker 3: So it was a it that's it.
Speaker 4: Well, and going back to his last team that had
Speaker 4: a deep run in terms of that five to oh
Speaker 4: four team of honor, Danovitch probably wasn't that high.
Speaker 3: Of a No. No, he came out, he came out
Speaker 3: of nowhere Europe. Yeah, and it looked out well, that
Speaker 3: panned out. Yeah. I think what was his name was
Speaker 3: a Daniel Dylon. Yeah, in Australia. I think he was
Speaker 3: somewhat high recruit and that didn't pan out. No, he
Speaker 3: was from Australia, went to Kentucky. He was okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: are you serviceable? Yeah?
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: And you have some guys that panned out, some guys
Speaker 4: that didn't Chris Rogers, Yeah, they didn't pan out.
Speaker 3: No, and more and more ways than one because he
Speaker 3: was more of a pain in it. He was a
Speaker 3: basketball player, so kicked. It's a balance, yeah, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: are these star stuff, don't you know? Don't I don't
Speaker 3: care about that. You know, when you buy a nice
Speaker 3: sports car, I hope one day actually you figure out
Speaker 3: it's not worth it because you have to pay a
Speaker 3: lot of insurance well, you gotta you gotta make sure
Speaker 3: that nobody touches it or scratches it. You got to
Speaker 3: worry about a lot of crap that you wouldn't have
Speaker 3: to in a of their car. Yeah, and then the
Speaker 3: maintenance and the maintenance. Just get a nice car that's
Speaker 3: gonna get you to the dance. And then you find
Speaker 3: a nice car at the dance. That's when you get
Speaker 3: rental cards. Yes, and those two have their issues. Those
Speaker 3: two have their issues. Okay, So again we're gonna have
Speaker 3: Julia McDermott at the three seventeen hour and then hold
Speaker 3: Rubino at the four to seventeen hour. I talk a
Speaker 3: little about golf today. They had a big Color Guard
Speaker 3: color Guard Classic album press converace today this morning. And
Speaker 3: then then obviously the game on Friday up in Tempeh,
Speaker 3: the not the trap game, but the in between game
Speaker 3: for a big game game on Saturday. Yeah, yeah, the
Speaker 3: game on Saturday. We'll see what happens. I mean, I
Speaker 3: would not be surprised, not in the least be surprised.
Speaker 3: If I was on a tank team. I'd be surprised
Speaker 3: if they lost this game.
Speaker 4: I want to be surprised if it's close yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: I think that's taking it for them in their situation.
Speaker 3: And taking it I mean by losing now you know,
Speaker 3: you know because the issue at home after a big
Speaker 3: win emotions, yeah, yea yeah.
Speaker 4: But you know this, AAU team does have talent. I
Speaker 4: mean they brought in one of the higher recruiting classes
Speaker 4: in the country. But you entered Big twelve playing they're
Speaker 4: what two and seven?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, like I said, I don't know, maybe seven
Speaker 3: years ago, Arizona has gone and gone into Tempe with
Speaker 3: very good teams and come out loser. And I wrote
Speaker 3: that one day. Subcup fans was, what the hell are
Speaker 3: you talking about? I said, good teams go up there
Speaker 3: and get beat. Yeah, it happens all the time. It's
Speaker 3: just because if you're not emotionally ready, you're gonna get beat.
Speaker 4: Same thing for Arizona fans. That didn't happen during the
Speaker 4: little Cinnaria. You didn't You didn't yet what four?
Speaker 3: Very rare, rare? Five? I mean you go up there
Speaker 3: and lose all time I'm talking is all time record
Speaker 3: against Oh yeah, yeah, it was very very rare up
Speaker 3: there over the twenty five years where Shawn, it happened
Speaker 3: quite I think he went five and five or six
Speaker 3: and six. It was very, very weird, strange that it
Speaker 3: would happen. Now, Tommy, I think he has a winning record.
Speaker 3: But let's see how how it depends. Now, Well, if
Speaker 3: you remember, Arizona had a big, big lead entire I
Speaker 3: think was it Tommy's or was it Sean's twenty two
Speaker 3: point leads? And they barely won or they just.
Speaker 4: Recently right, they won, They won the game, but they
Speaker 4: were up at like twenty two twenty five.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they gave up big lead. And guess
Speaker 3: what the if there's a if there's a a flaw
Speaker 3: in his game and coaching is giving up those big
Speaker 3: leads or whatever they're or however they're happening. They're happening,
Speaker 3: and have happened, have happened.
Speaker 4: And one of the main issues at the start of
Speaker 4: the season, it's been one of those bunts.
Speaker 3: Do you listen watch Evan Maaya, Evan Micaw you watch
Speaker 3: him his website. Don't even know what I'm talking about, No,
Speaker 3: I don't. Oh, he's one of the great ones. And
Speaker 3: he's a basketball analyst, kid, a kid like you, smart dude,
Speaker 3: smartly not like you or me. He's just a smart
Speaker 3: computer guy. And he talks about you see where he
Speaker 3: is no where top ten teams. Arizona's not in there,
Speaker 3: Houston's number one. Houston comes here number one weeks, number
Speaker 3: one in the country, and his rankings, his rankings, Yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: and I have to want to see because he's he
Speaker 3: said in a story today that the n C double
Speaker 3: A or whomever's doing the choosing and choosing of the
Speaker 3: the teams needs to do it with the quad one,
Speaker 3: quad two three. He has a better system of trying
Speaker 3: to figure out good wins, okay wins. And you know
Speaker 3: at the time of the you know, computer wise, whether
Speaker 3: quad one and that's what they go by. Yeah, they
Speaker 3: go by quad one quad.
Speaker 4: I mean I'm I'm very much old school, which is,
Speaker 4: you know, RPI and strength to schedule. The quads fall
Speaker 4: into that. You know, they factor that in. I think
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, you're gonna have mistakes.
Speaker 4: You're gonna have when you're having people come up with
Speaker 4: a bracket and have their selections. You're gonna have things
Speaker 4: that you don't like. Seeds that are that should have
Speaker 4: been higher are going to be lower, and guys that
Speaker 4: should have been lower A going to be higher, and
Speaker 4: you know, you see it all the time. He's sent
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago. Uh, Tommy Lloyd's for the season,
Speaker 4: they're a four seed. That is one of the most
Speaker 4: That is the toughest four or five seed that you
Speaker 4: could get at. That should have been one, Sue Houston.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, yeah, yeah, but Arizona was definitely well,
Speaker 3: there were one, right.
Speaker 4: There were one, and they deserve to be a one.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying Houston was lower than what they should
Speaker 4: have and I think Kansas felling in the second round
Speaker 4: that year.
Speaker 3: I want to see where Arizona is in this overall
Speaker 3: eighteen He's ranking ranking eighteen sounds about right right right
Speaker 3: behind Kentucky and right ahead of Texas A and m uh,
Speaker 3: there's Houston, Duke, Auburn, Iowa State, well, Florida. Hey, there
Speaker 3: was a lot to like about Iowa State. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: And there was a home tough.
Speaker 4: With them, and they're missing a player, and I don't
Speaker 4: think a lot of people realize that.
Speaker 3: Oh no, you know, one of the first things that
Speaker 3: Tommy did said that, and we understand that they were
Speaker 3: without a player. One of the best shooters didn't shoot
Speaker 3: well yeah, yeah, yeaha Arizona had something to do with that,
Speaker 3: but not the player. So we'll see what happens when
Speaker 3: the good names.
Speaker 4: It's going to be a different, different environment there, Yeah,
Speaker 4: no question, that's that's going to be a madhouse.
Speaker 3: Are you you're going to be the lead writer for
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Speaker 3: games much?
Speaker 4: No, I have been under the weather, but I've still
Speaker 4: been riding at home and this was my first time
Speaker 4: being able to go to back to back to Big
Speaker 4: twelve games after getting pneumonia, but fully back.
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Speaker 3: whole time. We gotta go, We gotta go, let's go.
Speaker 3: We're gonna talk to Judy McDermott on the other side.
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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to My on the Ball here on
Speaker 3: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Barbera, He's Troy Hutchinson.
Speaker 3: Now on the phone, we have Judy McDermott, the executive
Speaker 3: director of the first te program. Judy, how are you, Judy?
Speaker 3: Can you hear me?
Speaker 5: Can you hear me?
Speaker 3: Yes? I can hear you. Thank you very much. Hey,
Speaker 3: how did you Dago? How did you daygo? Pretty casual?
Speaker 5: I'm sure, yes it was. It was very nice see
Speaker 5: Classic media day to see you today, Steve.
Speaker 3: Yes, but but yeah, and that's why I'm asking because
Speaker 3: you get to see me right, No, but I'm as well.
Speaker 3: But I'm asking it actually because you were a long
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Speaker 3: to handle the Cold Guard Classic. Now it's somebody else's
Speaker 3: deal and you kind of are the benefactor or a
Speaker 3: benefactor of the event.
Speaker 5: Correct. Yeah, it's nice to be there as a participant recipient,
Speaker 5: not running the show today, right, right.
Speaker 3: Right, You were part of the initial agreement. It's been
Speaker 3: eight years, right, this is year number eight.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, so I was on board when we signed
Speaker 5: col of Guard to the title sponsorship. So it's great
Speaker 5: that they're still with us andtributing to the comput community.
Speaker 5: I mean, they've been great partners.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why wanted to go with it eight
Speaker 3: years later. What you guys created or started is still
Speaker 3: going on and very important to the community because they
Speaker 3: raise so much money.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, and it's just so important. I mean, just you know,
Speaker 5: creating the awareness for colon cancer because it's so curable.
Speaker 5: So you know, obviously Colon Guards here and they have
Speaker 5: a product that they you know, they encourage everybody to
Speaker 5: get screened, no matter how they do it. And it's
Speaker 5: all the survivors that come to the tournament and you know,
Speaker 5: it's absolutely amazing and so many people are affected. You know,
Speaker 5: as you saw in the video today. You know, Kenangaway
Speaker 5: is haang Away. His dad passed away from colon cancer.
Speaker 5: And you know, maybe if you'd have known more about
Speaker 5: you know, getting screened, that wouldn't have happened.
Speaker 4: So sure, you know, like you said, it's very important
Speaker 4: with the colon cancer research and the awareness there that
Speaker 4: you guys are able to bring forth. Going back to
Speaker 4: the impact that it's had not only on the community,
Speaker 4: h I don't know if you guys have seen numbers
Speaker 4: in terms of people getting screened for colon cancer. But
Speaker 4: do you guys know those type of numbers, the impact
Speaker 4: that you've seen from.
Speaker 5: I don't know them because I'm not, as you know,
Speaker 5: affiliated with the tournament anymore. You know, Cola Guard obviously
Speaker 5: has all those numbers, and I'm sure they're all available,
Speaker 5: but I know the increases. You know, it's happened. I
Speaker 5: mean even our first tea kids have gone home after
Speaker 5: the Cola Guard Classic and being in their booths and
Speaker 5: things and gone home and told their parents about oh
Speaker 5: yeah great, and their grandparents. It's actually a pretty cool,
Speaker 5: interesting story. Yeah, when you talk about the impact, even
Speaker 5: the kids learning about what it is and how you
Speaker 5: can be screened. And obviously Jerry Kelly is the ambassador
Speaker 5: for the tournament, is so great and you know he's
Speaker 5: so passionate about it, so you know it's important stuff.
Speaker 3: You've been around the town for a long time like
Speaker 3: me and let me. I had Eric Rhodes on here,
Speaker 3: I don't know, a week or so ago, ten days
Speaker 3: ago maybe, and we talked about the impact. Do you
Speaker 3: like the Arizona Bowl, the Eltorta, Tucson, the some of
Speaker 3: the bigger sporting events that are here now. The road
Speaker 3: Runners kind of too, and there's some other ones. Of
Speaker 3: course I'm gonna miss some that I shouldn't. But how
Speaker 3: they're not they don't compete with each other. They're kind
Speaker 3: of in unison, in lockstep in terms of binging stuff
Speaker 3: or not bringing but to keep the spouse world alive, well.
Speaker 5: I think Tucson just you know, has the community you know,
Speaker 5: wants to support everything and they don't want to lose anything.
Speaker 5: I mean, because you know, that's what we talk about. Obviously,
Speaker 5: Phoenix is the big city and you know, and they're
Speaker 5: a massive city when you talk about just you know,
Speaker 5: across the United States, so you know, we shouldn't be
Speaker 5: competing with them. So I think Tucson everybody bands together
Speaker 5: with all the events because we want to support all
Speaker 5: the events and be a part of it because it's
Speaker 5: so important for our community, you know, to not have
Speaker 5: to go to Phoenix for everything is a treat and
Speaker 5: just and just you know the benefits obviously.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And and then you have the group that you
Speaker 3: led for a number of years, the Gooky Stores, who
Speaker 3: kind of like you know again lock arms and go
Speaker 3: at it a pretty full force.
Speaker 5: Oh they work hard, and they're all volunteers, and they
Speaker 5: all have businesses on their own, and you know, they
Speaker 5: really put their heart and soul into selling the golf tournament,
Speaker 5: you know, putting the tournament on. You know, there's a
Speaker 5: lot of different ways to make a lot of money
Speaker 5: for charity, to get money away, but it's so important
Speaker 5: to keep professional golf here in Tucson, you know, in
Speaker 5: professional sports in general, and it's neat because with the
Speaker 5: Coli Guard Classic, you know, there's a pro am where
Speaker 5: somebody can actually go out and play golf with the
Speaker 5: prow and pro am and get a great gift pack
Speaker 5: and have some parties and enjoy and you know, the
Speaker 5: supporter is all there and La Polo has been a
Speaker 5: wonderful partner for the tournament. Sure, and so it'll be
Speaker 5: the second year the players are playing the La Poloma
Speaker 5: course and it's a mixture of the three nines, is
Speaker 5: the way they've developed the tournament eighteen, you know, which
Speaker 5: is pretty cool. So you see a different course layout
Speaker 5: than you would if you just normally went there and
Speaker 5: played golf.
Speaker 3: Right, I don't know.
Speaker 5: As a resort guest.
Speaker 3: I'm going to have Aaron Kelly on tomorrow. He's the
Speaker 3: tournament chair, so he'll talk more about this. But let
Speaker 3: me let me ask you, and maybe my observation is
Speaker 3: wrong or just incorrect. Artist has been around so much
Speaker 3: and they're kind of they're they're very visible with them
Speaker 3: with the hats and with the screenings and all that
Speaker 3: that they that sponsorship of all the sponsorships that I've
Speaker 3: seen over the years. That one's like full force. I mean,
Speaker 3: how could you not know that they're associated with this event?
Speaker 3: Does that make sense where their name is no?
Speaker 5: Totally? Well, and the fact that they bring all the
Speaker 5: survivors in as well, you know, they're all there wearing
Speaker 5: the blue and everybody bringing in and you know, Katie
Speaker 5: Kirk's been here the last two years to help support
Speaker 5: because her first husband died of colon cancer, so she's
Speaker 5: a spokesperson and so yeah, the visibility is there, and
Speaker 5: you know, and they love to bring in the survivors.
Speaker 5: You know, they're just not writing the chaps to have
Speaker 5: the TV coverage or the tournament. They actually get involved
Speaker 5: in the day to day you know events a tournament week,
Speaker 5: which is really.
Speaker 4: Neat in terms of you know, First Tea and your
Speaker 4: work there. Can you give us some detail about that
Speaker 4: and that organization and how you guys are able to
Speaker 4: help out the youth here in Tucson.
Speaker 5: Absolutely?
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 5: First T is actually a national organization and First T
Speaker 5: Tucson is a chapter of First T. There's about one
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty chapters across the nation and there's like
Speaker 5: four or five international chapters as well. But first he
Speaker 5: is based out of Jacksonville, Florida. You know where the
Speaker 5: PGA tour headquarters are. There's the World Golf Foundation that
Speaker 5: started it with the LPGA and USGA and the Masters
Speaker 5: and the PGA of America. So they're all lockstep with
Speaker 5: working you know. Obviously, first he started is to really
Speaker 5: reach at risk youths. And what we talk about now is,
Speaker 5: you know, we're we're here for all kids, but the
Speaker 5: nature of what we do and the affordability of what
Speaker 5: we do, we obviously attract more at risk youth and
Speaker 5: underserved youth, you know. And like I tell people, we
Speaker 5: do have some kids that are part of First Tea
Speaker 5: and take part in our tournaments and do some things
Speaker 5: with our junior golf leadership programs that might be a
Speaker 5: member of a country club, but that's you know, very rare.
Speaker 5: What I love about what we do is, you know,
Speaker 5: we go to schools and we have a fifteen passenger
Speaker 5: vand and we pick up kids and we bring them
Speaker 5: to the golf course that would never ever have the
Speaker 5: opportunity to put their hands on a golf club and
Speaker 5: be you know, on the golf course on the green grass,
Speaker 5: you know, and that's what's really fun is picking up
Speaker 5: kids at school and bringing them here. That's one of
Speaker 5: the most fun things we do. You know, we do
Speaker 5: so many things, from running competitive tournaments for kids to
Speaker 5: everything else, but you know, just getting kids at school
Speaker 5: and bringing them here that have never played golf before,
Speaker 5: it all is really fun.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like the modern day boys and Girls club,
Speaker 3: right because you know they go to totally.
Speaker 5: That's that's I tell people a lot. Steve is you
Speaker 5: know it's a boys and golf club at a golf course.
Speaker 3: Cool. Let me ask you, do you still search out
Speaker 3: or hope to get to volunteers And I have a story,
Speaker 3: That's why I ask absolutely.
Speaker 5: So we always need coaches to help our kids. Basically
Speaker 5: we do everything in group lessons, so more more coaches
Speaker 5: we have. It's a six to one ratio, so we
Speaker 5: have one adult to six kids, and so if we
Speaker 5: just had one more coach, we can basically have six
Speaker 5: more kids participate because unfortunately, we do turn kids away
Speaker 5: from a lot of our classes because we feel capacity.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's very easy. Let me tell you. If
Speaker 3: you remember a few years back when when the paper
Speaker 3: closed and I was kind of trying to find my way.
Speaker 3: After the MDA left, I had nothing to do, so
Speaker 3: I said I could be volunteary. You said, sure, go
Speaker 3: go for let's do it. So it very got cleared,
Speaker 3: very easily. You know, you do your paperwork and YadA YadA.
Speaker 3: And I think my second golf he says, Yeah, it
Speaker 3: doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. They'll be fine. You know,
Speaker 3: they're just learning and it's pretty easy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're looking for mentors for these kids. And you
Speaker 5: don't have to be a great golfer to be a
Speaker 5: part of her tea. Thankfully we have that. We have
Speaker 5: that later for the kids who want to move through
Speaker 5: the program.
Speaker 3: Right right now, as you're very opening and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: They said today and I did the story for BIZ
Speaker 3: Tucson regarding the tournament. They raised more than seven hundred thousand,
Speaker 3: and you know your years have been a lot like that,
Speaker 3: right at least five hundred thousand through the years and
Speaker 3: seven hundred and maybe even more. And how important that
Speaker 3: money is locally?
Speaker 5: Oh, it's so important. Because what's so great about what
Speaker 5: the Conquy stores do giving away money is you know
Speaker 5: a lot of other organizations don't give to sports and
Speaker 5: sports is so important for kids, no matter what the
Speaker 5: sport is. I mean, you've learned live skills from you know,
Speaker 5: any sport you play. And it's really neat that the
Speaker 5: conquistators are there, especially on an emergency basis for kids
Speaker 5: that might qualify to travel and go somewhere.
Speaker 3: And make it the honey for that.
Speaker 5: But you know, but you know, and unfortunately with the
Speaker 5: vandalism in this town too, and obviously it's everywhere, but
Speaker 5: you know, the kids that they might have a snack
Speaker 5: bar that got broken into and then they'll help them
Speaker 5: buy the equipment to you know, put the snack bar
Speaker 5: all back together and stuff and really run the gamut
Speaker 5: from you know, building gyms to just a little bit
Speaker 5: of money to buy a kid a baseball glove.
Speaker 3: Sure no, And it's into the millions now because of
Speaker 3: all the years they've helped.
Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, Yeah, it's crazy that it's it's pretty impressive
Speaker 5: and like say it, you know, nowadays it's just so
Speaker 5: tough to get donated from a lot of corporations and things.
Speaker 5: You have to go through these online portals of things
Speaker 5: and still all this stuff out and upload it, and
Speaker 5: the Concustos really make it easy for these organizations that
Speaker 5: are you know a lot of them are truly run
Speaker 5: by volunteers and parents and guardians and things, so they
Speaker 5: make it easy to give kids money so they can
Speaker 5: play sports.
Speaker 4: So if somebody wants to donate, if somebody's listening, now,
Speaker 4: what is there a certain website that they go to?
Speaker 4: Is it through their concu stores or how do they
Speaker 4: help in terms of that donation process?
Speaker 3: Through through young for first.
Speaker 5: For the first T two soon we're all spelled out.
Speaker 5: First T twoson dot org is our website, and we
Speaker 5: have a donate button there that helps our kids immensely,
Speaker 5: as you can imagine because we keep the costs low.
Speaker 5: And then with the Conquy statores. Even on the Colo
Speaker 5: Guard Classic dot com, you know, they have a donate
Speaker 5: button there where you can donate. But even if you
Speaker 5: just buy a tournament ticket to the Colo Guard Classic,
Speaker 5: that's I always tell people. With the golf tournament, yeah,
Speaker 5: somebody might have some extra tickets and give you a
Speaker 5: free ticket, but you know, if you buy a ticket
Speaker 5: to the col of Guard Classic, you're going to help
Speaker 5: everybody in the community, which is so important.
Speaker 3: Along those lines, I just lost my thought, you know,
Speaker 3: how it gets it is to get old, especially for me,
Speaker 3: especially for me in terms of oh, I know what
Speaker 3: it was. We're two sons a big small city, right,
Speaker 3: you know, a million and a half a million whatever,
Speaker 3: But it's a small you know, community and the community
Speaker 3: that's giving you. Do you find it even at your
Speaker 3: place now? And maybe in the past, I guess she
Speaker 3: didn't really have to deal with the nil But now,
Speaker 3: like everyone now, everyone including U of A, who was
Speaker 3: asking for money for the university athletic department, Now that
Speaker 3: it's about the individuals, it becomes a tighter the wallet
Speaker 3: and the pockets become smaller. So I'm sure it's even
Speaker 3: more difficult.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm glad I'm not in college athletics. I can't
Speaker 5: imagine trying to raise money for athletics and then trying
Speaker 5: to raise money for athletes. I mean, I just can't
Speaker 5: even imagine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no one, and you used to be an athlete
Speaker 3: a long time ago.
Speaker 5: That was a long time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, imagine you being in an athlete now.
Speaker 5: If golfers, if the golfers or athletes, we still could
Speaker 5: have that controversial talk, right right right, Well they're going
Speaker 5: to be Tiger help Tiger helped that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, but like now I don't know what
Speaker 3: the percentage is going to be, which kind of shocked
Speaker 3: me about you know, the two the twenty million dollars
Speaker 3: coming in next year or beyond, where every every sport
Speaker 3: is going to have a piece of the pie. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and then I thought it would be all equal. It's
Speaker 3: not all equal equal the golf situation, the baseball, the
Speaker 3: softball are not going to get a bigger piece of
Speaker 3: the pie.
Speaker 4: You know, it's a lot of it's going to be
Speaker 4: going to football, men's basketball, the money makers, Wow, get
Speaker 4: you more money?
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: Blows my mind.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it did mine when I first heard it. I'm thinking,
Speaker 3: how is that because little Johnny and little Susie worked
Speaker 3: just as hard on other sports they do. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: want you to say something controversial.
Speaker 5: I can't even go there.
Speaker 3: Those smart ladies, smart ladies. It's just it's just.
Speaker 5: Hard to fathom, you know, it's just hard to.
Speaker 3: Fathom and hard to fathom it has come to this
Speaker 3: point where where these people, yeah, where the athletes are
Speaker 3: getting what they're getting, and you're thinking what, Yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Mean when I played college golf, I was happy to
Speaker 5: get you know, free.
Speaker 3: Golf boy, yes, yes, no, and and a scholarship if
Speaker 3: you had one, right, yeah.
Speaker 4: And now imagine you get what you want and then
Speaker 4: you say, well, you know what, this university is going
Speaker 4: to give me a little bit more than what I
Speaker 4: have for so so I'm gone.
Speaker 5: And we never even talked about Remember there was even
Speaker 5: talk last year. Will Caitlyn Clark even go to the
Speaker 5: w NBA because she's already making so much money playing
Speaker 5: basketball in college?
Speaker 3: Right, she'd take a pay cut.
Speaker 4: That's because of all the sponsorships and don't yeah, taking
Speaker 4: a pay cut to play in the w n B
Speaker 4: A What a.
Speaker 3: World we live in? What a world we live in?
Speaker 3: How are things okay? Other than that? With your partying
Speaker 3: shot here with the first anybody can join or tell
Speaker 3: me how can they just be part of it?
Speaker 5: Anybody can join. You can go to first T two
Speaker 5: soun dot org and sign up to be on our
Speaker 5: mailing list or give us a call at five two
Speaker 5: o six two eight one five five and like say,
Speaker 5: we really are the first first stop for junior golf
Speaker 5: in southern Arizona. So if you want to play tournament
Speaker 5: golf and you don't want group lessons with First team.
Speaker 5: We do that too with two Sun Juniorgolf dot com
Speaker 5: as well. So we have a tournament here at Randolph
Speaker 5: excuse me, at el Rio this weekend. We'll have about
Speaker 5: seventy kids playing competitive junior golf over two days.
Speaker 3: You know, I have a pretty good dig, right, you know,
Speaker 3: what do you do for I'm on the radio. What
Speaker 3: do you do for a living? Judo? Well, I managed
Speaker 3: a golf youth golf pretty pretty good.
Speaker 5: Well and it's fun.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: We have a new fund that was there today, uh
Speaker 5: at the BDIA day for the Coolo Grade Classics. She's
Speaker 5: going to go play college golf at Texas Southern next
Speaker 5: year in Houston. So really proud of her. And she
Speaker 5: grew up in our program, right really she wants she
Speaker 5: wants to be a pilot and they have an AA
Speaker 5: program there. Nice, nice exciting.
Speaker 3: You get to inspire the young ones of the world.
Speaker 5: It's fun from the little little little ones to the teenagers.
Speaker 3: Oh I bet, yeah, I bet. Thank you Judy as
Speaker 3: always good to see you. Thank you guys, all right,
Speaker 3: take care, bye bye. Judi mc dermott from the First
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Speaker 3: Fifty, doctor and everybody. Welcome back to Iron the Mall.
Speaker 3: I'm Steve Rivera, He's Troy Hunterson. Good talk to miss McDermott.
Speaker 3: Uh with the big obviously tournament here coming about six weeks,
Speaker 3: five weeks in early March, sleep for every early March.
Speaker 3: I wanted to talk to you real quick. I want
Speaker 3: to ask you a difficult question, only in as much
Speaker 3: as not to answer, but to be politically however you
Speaker 3: want to be uh huh uh. Arizona a good basketball team?
Speaker 4: Yes, it was, and in terms of right now, in
Speaker 4: terms of today, in terms of today, Arizona is a
Speaker 4: good basketball team. That probably like three weeks ago, I
Speaker 4: would have said, we'll see. If you asked me that
Speaker 4: a month ago, I would have said, no, Well you said.
Speaker 4: I even said they were going to make the tournament.
Speaker 3: There three weeks ago. It was before the Texas Tech Game,
Speaker 3: and you thought they'd sweep that trip, right, And so
Speaker 3: now it's three or weeks ago. Now they're moving right along.
Speaker 3: So they're good. What do you mean? What do I
Speaker 3: mean by good? And what do you mean by good?
Speaker 4: I think they're a good team that has the potential
Speaker 4: to play in E Lite eight given the right matchup.
Speaker 3: Okay, hold that thought real quick. You're on the eye
Speaker 3: on the ball. Who's this?
Speaker 5: Hey?
Speaker 15: What's up?
Speaker 3: Is Vick Vick Vic? So I get I get a
Speaker 3: note from Vic from the Arena story, And are you okay?
Speaker 3: I just want to make sure you're okay.
Speaker 15: I'm not okay. I'm hurting here a little bit, man, Tory,
Speaker 15: What do you think?
Speaker 4: No, honestly, I get why you're hurting. He's a talented player.
Speaker 4: But here's my thing. One, it's about nil and money.
Speaker 4: It always comes down to that in recruiting nowadays. Uh two,
Speaker 4: next season you have the potential to have Carter Brian back,
Speaker 4: you might have kJ Lewis back, you might have Cole Pete,
Speaker 4: and you might have Jayden Bradley.
Speaker 3: Where's the ball gonna go?
Speaker 4: There's only so many basketballs, and you know Arenas he
Speaker 4: has a high level scorer, but you're not going to
Speaker 4: get that opportunity with so many guys that can do that.
Speaker 4: So where you know, there's only one basketball and I
Speaker 4: think you get grab.
Speaker 15: You think that misses out on Burry's and CoA, we're
Speaker 15: in trouble or we're okay.
Speaker 3: I don't know about Burry.
Speaker 4: I think you know he's a he's a development prospect,
Speaker 4: very good prospect, five star recruw. I think CoA that's
Speaker 4: the one you need to get even if even if
Speaker 4: Tommy misses out on them. In today's college basketball, you
Speaker 4: have the transfer portal that really mitigates the recruiting flaws.
Speaker 4: If you have any in terms of guys that you
Speaker 4: missed out on, you can go get a you know,
Speaker 4: high level junior senior from a low level score Eburn,
Speaker 4: a power five school, And honestly, you kind of want
Speaker 4: to rather have the upperclassmen than you do a freshman.
Speaker 15: So do you think that that Muscleman promised Elijah, Hey,
Speaker 15: here's the ball, you take it.
Speaker 4: I guarantee that's one of the conversations. Muscleman's a very
Speaker 4: good coach. That factors into that as well. I think
Speaker 4: right now Muscleman is probably a better coach than Tommy
Speaker 4: Lloyd on paper in terms of what they've done in
Speaker 4: your career a long time. And then two is you
Speaker 4: know they nobody says it. Then you're near home, nobody
Speaker 4: says an nil number. But I promise you he got
Speaker 4: to get an al deal and it's going to be
Speaker 4: a free flowing system, just like Tommy Lloyd is a
Speaker 4: free flowing system.
Speaker 3: Before you ask your next question, Uh, you're you're an
Speaker 3: older man. You're not as old as me, but I
Speaker 3: want to say, I'll give you forty five. You're play
Speaker 3: older than that. How does an old man like this
Speaker 3: worry himself about recruiting.
Speaker 5: A You know what?
Speaker 15: It keeps me, young man, Steve, I love it.
Speaker 3: You're gonna have a heart attack worried about you kids
Speaker 3: coming to you.
Speaker 15: Of A Now I can I can uh still go
Speaker 15: to the bar with Troy and talk recruiting and and
Speaker 15: shoot the bull and stuff and uh if he honestly,
Speaker 15: keeps gets you young, get gets you out of the house,
Speaker 15: going to the games and and all that stuff. And
Speaker 15: that's the real reason why.
Speaker 3: As my dad would tell me and party tell you.
Speaker 15: No, no, and I get it, and I'm fine. But
Speaker 15: I was a big Guill fan. I saw him in
Speaker 15: high school and went to his games. And obviously King
Speaker 15: came here, and you know, he had a pretty cool
Speaker 15: career here, and so I was kind of hoping the
Speaker 15: kid would come and stuff. Just rooting, just a fan
Speaker 15: standpoint of Bruton.
Speaker 3: Okay, and last question. We got a couple of minutes
Speaker 3: and no more calls. I asked, de Troy, do you
Speaker 3: destroy do you Droy think this team is a good team?
Speaker 3: Do you think Arizona basketball is a good team right now?
Speaker 3: Right now? Just good?
Speaker 5: Just good?
Speaker 15: But it is one of those teams, Steven, and you
Speaker 15: said it, and I kind of believe it. They do
Speaker 15: have the opening to get better and maybe make that
Speaker 15: little run hopefully. I mean, as we're all going to
Speaker 15: root for him in the next few weeks here, you know,
Speaker 15: the kid o Waka getting better as we see Townsend
Speaker 15: can get better. Obviously, if Caleb hits a stride at
Speaker 15: some point, kJ two has nothing but to do with
Speaker 15: but go upp where beating all those guys you know,
Speaker 15: one hundred and fifty in October has not worked for
Speaker 15: us as well.
Speaker 3: Know, no, and it never does. It never does.
Speaker 15: But you know what, So yeah, it is a good
Speaker 15: team and it has the potential to get better.
Speaker 3: Okay, well that's good. And we're not even February yet,
Speaker 3: so we have time exactly. Yeah, okay, Vic, go back
Speaker 3: to uh go go back to worrying about recruiting.
Speaker 15: Oh I'm reading everything on Twitter and I'm dying inside. Man,
Speaker 15: tell him, all right, you guys.
Speaker 3: Okay, thanks. You know what, the one thing that he
Speaker 3: talks about that I was just thinking about. He talks
Speaker 3: about these guys kJ can get better because he hasn't
Speaker 3: really had a kJ a year. Uh, Townsend can get better.
Speaker 3: He's had a uh maybe a C level season.
Speaker 4: A Walker is getting better. I give him a bee.
Speaker 4: I give a Walker. I don't think a walka could
Speaker 4: be that impactful in terms of Oh, he's huge player,
Speaker 4: he's huge. Uh so that's okay.
Speaker 3: You give him a B. I'll give him bee. You
Speaker 3: give be a That's fine. Jayden's been okay, steady B
Speaker 3: plus whatever. Henry, he might as be plus B in
Speaker 3: the b SO. And then Caleb, who knows he's had
Speaker 3: a a sometimes his dog ate his homework one day.
Speaker 3: You know, they're certain up and downs, right, So there's
Speaker 3: a lot to like in terms of this. If this
Speaker 3: team gets better, if this team gets better, they should
Speaker 3: be a lot better because they're still room to get better.
Speaker 4: I think the exciting part of four Arizona fans is
Speaker 4: you're seeing the others get better. You're seeing Carter, Brian
Speaker 4: get better, You're seeing kJ Lewis get better, You're seeing Henry,
Speaker 4: vas Are, Jade and Bradley get better every day, and
Speaker 4: then you have the potential, Well what if Caleb turns
Speaker 4: it on in the postseason and the others are already clicking.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's X factor, no question. And I've said this before, Troy.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you were with me last week
Speaker 3: when I said this. And then Caleb needs, absolutely needs
Speaker 3: to show up in March. Yeah, you know, as long
Speaker 3: as though the guys kind of can play to some
Speaker 3: of their potential, Caleb absolutely they need his scoring.
Speaker 4: I think they can get by to get to at
Speaker 4: least at Sweet sixteen, depending on the matchup with Caleb
Speaker 4: being up and down, but from the sweet sixteen on,
Speaker 4: you need them to be on.
Speaker 3: You need them to be on.
Speaker 4: Can they be is UCLA's tournament team I think as
Speaker 4: of right now.
Speaker 3: So can they beat UCLA again?
Speaker 4: I think they could because I think the others are
Speaker 4: better than what they were when they first played us.
Speaker 3: And they have on the ropes. So they're gonna play
Speaker 3: UCLA type teams in the second round, second round, third round.
Speaker 3: See probably one of those teams. So my point is
Speaker 3: can they beat them to advance? They're gonna play a
Speaker 3: lower division, lower division team in the first round, and
Speaker 3: we know how that goes. Sometimes they just didn't get
Speaker 3: up for right but the second round they're gonna be
Speaker 3: equal or better than they are. Can they play that team?
Speaker 3: I think they could.
Speaker 4: Now the question is can they Can they get over
Speaker 4: that sweet sixteen? For Tommy Lloyd, that's the hump for
Speaker 4: him right now. Can you get past the sweet sixteen?
Speaker 4: And for that to happen, Caleb needs to play well?
Speaker 3: Yeah, without question, that's he is. He is like one
Speaker 3: of my friends. He is the straw that stirs the
Speaker 3: drink or he's he's the bigxedup drink that you know
Speaker 3: that doesn't want a straw. It's just kind of strange.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just kind of strange because you need
Speaker 3: he needs to show up.
Speaker 4: You notice one thing that Tommy's done this year and
Speaker 4: he's never really done in the past. And he still
Speaker 4: lets love shoot I'm not saying he's not is he's
Speaker 4: not letting him shoot him out of the game. If
Speaker 4: he starts out one for five, he sits him down.
Speaker 4: He's not letting him go one for twelve, one for thirteen,
Speaker 4: one for twenty whatever. Well he was one for ten
Speaker 4: before he hit that, but he kept on sitting him
Speaker 4: down throughout the day. I'm saying, you're not seeing him
Speaker 4: let a guy shoot him like he used to shoot him.
Speaker 3: Out of the game.
Speaker 4: You're not seeing that. You're seeing Tommy with a quicker
Speaker 4: trigger of pulling guys this season than he has in
Speaker 4: the past.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, how has it worked? So so they're getting better? Well,
Speaker 3: they're getting better, Troy. They were a fifty five foot
Speaker 3: shot away from losing that game.
Speaker 4: They were, but against the number three team in the country.
Speaker 4: They look pretty good for most of that good. Yeah, no,
Speaker 4: they did to your credit, Yes, here's here's interesting. It
Speaker 4: looked pretty good without Caleb without I'm saying without having
Speaker 4: to need Caleb Untilia.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: So there's that, and I totally agree with it. You
Speaker 3: played with them, and you played with him for a
Speaker 3: long time physically and otherwise without Caleb having.
Speaker 4: A good game. And but that's the Caleb difference maker
Speaker 4: there is. You went through the final stretch of that game.
Speaker 4: You're in a tight game, right against the number three
Speaker 4: team in the country. So we'll say that's an Elite
Speaker 4: eight game, right, and you go through a three minute
Speaker 4: and forty one second scoring drought and Telly hits that three.
Speaker 3: Point the buzzer. So where was that game played too soon?
Speaker 3: Is that a factor? Oh? For sure? For sure?
Speaker 4: But you okay, you can say it was a factor.
Speaker 4: But they let both sides play. It's not like no, no,
Speaker 4: they played no. But they played with a comfort zone.
Speaker 4: They played in a comfort zone with with a little blanky.
Speaker 4: It's not going to be the same with Baylor. It's
Speaker 4: not going to be the same at I was. I
Speaker 4: was staying in the names, oh for sure. So you
Speaker 4: know it is what it is. Mkale was an and
Speaker 4: Kale was fantastic. Then that's that's the best MA Center
Speaker 4: I've seen since the Florida game and what was that
Speaker 4: two thousand and fifteenish with Mark Lions. That's the loudest
Speaker 4: I've heard Michael since Senate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and in that game, if you want to commit
Speaker 3: to me, to me and what I can remember, that
Speaker 3: was unbelievably the best and now I've heard in a
Speaker 3: long time too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean for me again, it goes UCLA Selim
Speaker 4: Stottlemeyers shot, unbelievable, Derek Williams block shot, one of the
Speaker 4: loudest I've ever heard Michail that Florida game and this
Speaker 4: Iowa State game is almost at that level.
Speaker 3: It's easily one of the best, top five teams, top
Speaker 3: five games in a long long time, very much, you know,
Speaker 3: And no one talks about the past like you know
Speaker 3: they whatever the Derek Williams shot or whatever, it's the
Speaker 3: best moment of McHale history. Shut up. It was yesterday.
Speaker 3: You remember yesterday. I just think you have Houston coming
Speaker 3: up now, Yeah, which is gonna be even better. That's
Speaker 3: Kelvin and Kelvin Okay, we got about I don't know,
Speaker 3: we got about half a minute, So thanks for coming
Speaker 3: in Troy. We're not gonna go to breaking news on
Speaker 3: the top of the hour. We'll just continue to talk.
Speaker 3: Maybe you get a call or two, and then we're
Speaker 3: gonna have Holderbin. I'm talking about a sue a on
Speaker 3: either side.