WEBVTT 1 00:00:22.839 --> 00:00:26.760 Hey, everybody's Day three of Giant Bomb's Game of the 2 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:29.760 Year twenty twenty five. I'm your host, jan at Choa 3 00:00:30.039 --> 00:00:33.799 and we're recording at main Gear shouts out to main Gear, 4 00:00:34.159 --> 00:00:38.280 joining me co captain of the ship as always. 5 00:00:37.439 --> 00:00:38.479 Give me the year, Give me the year, give me 6 00:00:38.479 --> 00:00:38.960 the your, give me the. 7 00:00:38.960 --> 00:00:40.119 Year, give me the your, give me thee, give me 8 00:00:40.159 --> 00:00:43.359 the year. He looks good, Terble Shawn Sean McDowell. 9 00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:47.439 Magic comes Demas is happening. 10 00:00:47.560 --> 00:00:49.679 It's happening. It's stuck in his memory, just like it's 11 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:50.960 stuck in his memories. 12 00:00:51.799 --> 00:00:56.240 Chuck Zimmer Hell from Tom Tom Tom Tucker. That's it's 13 00:00:56.280 --> 00:01:00.640 borderline problematic. Every time you say speaking about borderline problematic, 14 00:01:01.640 --> 00:01:05.239 I'm gonna put him up ahead. Now he's a bad 15 00:01:05.280 --> 00:01:10.400 boy of games media boy my like benaughty. 16 00:01:10.599 --> 00:01:15.079 Whoa, that was so mumble, Jerry of you throw me 17 00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:15.719 off like that? 18 00:01:16.480 --> 00:01:17.040 Oh my gosh. 19 00:01:17.079 --> 00:01:21.200 I'll be the rumble teaser to your mumble Jerry. 20 00:01:21.959 --> 00:01:24.439 It's mungo, Jerry, get it right. I always say mumble. 21 00:01:25.840 --> 00:01:28.959 I didn't want to correct you. Our own favorite. 22 00:01:29.079 --> 00:01:33.840 Uh, the coolest of cats, the Prince of Cats Jeff Beckler. 23 00:01:34.079 --> 00:01:36.560 Hey, uh, no one will like this. 24 00:01:39.599 --> 00:01:44.879 That's actually the new motto of the website. Get on that. 25 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:52.319 I'm changing the logo. It's a universally bad idea. No 26 00:01:52.359 --> 00:01:58.480 one will like it, right, and he's our own god. 27 00:01:58.480 --> 00:02:05.000 What's the old Lady cat o? Dan riker Beclaurio was 28 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:08.280 hell last night. I grew up with Kayla watching the 29 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:11.199 Cats VHS NonStop, and then I thought I was out 30 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:13.520 of the Cats period of my life, and then uh, 31 00:02:13.599 --> 00:02:16.319 it was just in the Airbnb everywhere the whole movie. 32 00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:22.199 Cool and we have our own monk Oo Strap behind 33 00:02:22.240 --> 00:02:25.039 the ones and twos. Will Crosby's helping us out? Can 34 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:26.360 we hear in the hour a hiss? 35 00:02:27.159 --> 00:02:28.840 There we go? Fantastic. 36 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:33.120 We have another full day of cat tegories to get there, 37 00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:39.039 starting with For some reason, I put this up as 38 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:41.199 a joke, thinking someone would get upset and cut it, 39 00:02:41.280 --> 00:02:42.800 but we just kept adding more to it. 40 00:02:43.439 --> 00:02:46.520 We have best cat from Cats, brought to you by cats, 41 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:49.159 brought to you by cats. I'm gonna just fire them 42 00:02:49.159 --> 00:02:49.759 off real quick. 43 00:02:49.919 --> 00:02:53.759 Grizabella, rum Tum Tucker, Mister Mistopheles, Mamba Arena that is 44 00:02:53.759 --> 00:02:56.599 the sexy Taylor Swift cat, as well as Monko Strap, 45 00:02:56.680 --> 00:03:03.919 Victoria Demeter Jemima, Growl, Tiger, Cavity, Rumpels, Teaser, Mungo, Jerry, 46 00:03:04.360 --> 00:03:09.120 Skimble Shanks, Gus the Theater Cat, Jenny Dots, Ny Dots, 47 00:03:09.599 --> 00:03:19.039 that's the that's the Wilson one one, Cassandra, Cora, Copat, Alonzo, Jelly, Lorum, Electra, Tantomile, 48 00:03:19.400 --> 00:03:25.960 Amidas and Mater d Oh the stars are stars are here? Yeah. Uh, 49 00:03:26.120 --> 00:03:29.080 I'm gonna say we just bowled three of them now, Okay, 50 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:30.479 Skims Bolder for sure. 51 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:32.719 Yeah, I'm a big fan of Skimble Shanks. He wears 52 00:03:33.039 --> 00:03:35.840 his overalls like all the way up to his cat nipples. 53 00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:37.360 Oh he's the tap dancing one. 54 00:03:37.960 --> 00:03:39.520 Yes, yes, he has the power of tap dance. 55 00:03:39.520 --> 00:03:43.319 He defeated of the railway train who was stupid face 56 00:03:43.400 --> 00:03:45.520 cat who just had the stupid face the whole time. 57 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:50.599 To yas Alonzo, I think that's that's Alonzo alright, not him, 58 00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:52.159 you talk about the main one, because I think that's 59 00:03:52.240 --> 00:03:55.479 monkey strapped, Like at the at the end where they're 60 00:03:55.520 --> 00:03:59.520 all staring at character strap. 61 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:06.400 Can we bold ship rum Tum tugger, Hey, can you believe? 62 00:04:06.439 --> 00:04:09.159 At a comic com party I went to where Jason 63 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:13.120 Durler was performing. He didn't respond well, when I yelled 64 00:04:13.159 --> 00:04:18.639 cats weird. I like mister Mestopheles. I don't like him 65 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:20.040 in this movie. No, they turn him too a bit 66 00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:22.079 of a he's got a nerd. Yeah, it's like a 67 00:04:22.079 --> 00:04:25.879 shy nerd. Just bold Taylor Swift jan I both want. 68 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:28.839 To came with. 69 00:04:28.839 --> 00:04:30.959 This movie finally made Taylor Swift attractive. 70 00:04:31.959 --> 00:04:33.319 Oh no, what does that say about me? 71 00:04:34.519 --> 00:04:36.800 There was a moment where it did get quiet in 72 00:04:36.839 --> 00:04:39.600 the living room and everyone was just walking. 73 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:46.800 For shoot, wow macavity, uh cavity. I don't like it 74 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:49.759 when he takes his clothes off. Yeah, he real naked. 75 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:51.639 Every time he what is it? What does he say, Mike, 76 00:04:51.639 --> 00:04:55.839 He's like ineffable. He goes ineffable and then he closed 77 00:04:55.879 --> 00:04:57.079 the book and then a bunch of people. 78 00:04:56.839 --> 00:04:58.959 Disappeared to the one time he just says this date though, 79 00:04:58.959 --> 00:05:02.240 would he tell ports set Away? 80 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:06.639 I do like the name Mungo Jerry, Yes, I don't. 81 00:05:06.839 --> 00:05:08.879 I don't either, All right, well, okay he was wrong. 82 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:11.439 Mungo Jerry and Rumple Teaser are the lens that are 83 00:05:11.439 --> 00:05:12.160 like going there. 84 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:13.000 They're the du. 85 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:16.360 My parents told me I'm not allowed to say those words. 86 00:05:16.439 --> 00:05:20.439 Yeah, so uh oh you guys said I couldn't say 87 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:22.319 Skimble Shanks, And I said, I got a. 88 00:05:22.360 --> 00:05:23.720 Skimble Shanks pass. 89 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:25.439 And you know what I told him when they gave 90 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:28.240 me that, I said, Skimble Thanks? 91 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:33.879 We is it gust or gust the theater? 92 00:05:35.560 --> 00:05:39.920 All right by Sir Ian McKellen. I'm gonna say, let's 93 00:05:39.959 --> 00:05:43.000 give it to the Sexy Taylor swift cat. Okay, yeah, 94 00:05:43.480 --> 00:05:46.920 guy backler, do you want to read the category? Yeah? 95 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:53.920 Of course best cat from Cats runners up, rum Tum tugger, uh, 96 00:05:54.199 --> 00:06:00.319 Skimble Skanks. And you don't have a pass, you can't Bombloa, 97 00:06:01.079 --> 00:06:02.759 which is the Sexy Taylor's. 98 00:06:02.600 --> 00:06:04.839 Official cat of Giants Giant bomb Arena. 99 00:06:05.160 --> 00:06:10.279 Yeah, where's that era on her tour in Cats? 100 00:06:10.519 --> 00:06:14.720 Yes, that's crazy, Mike. Mike is like, if this happened 101 00:06:14.759 --> 00:06:17.279 a year later, she would not be in this sure. Yeah, 102 00:06:17.360 --> 00:06:20.319 she also didn't perform it during the eras tour. Weird 103 00:06:21.319 --> 00:06:22.480 weird oversight. 104 00:06:22.839 --> 00:06:25.120 All right, Well that unpleasantness is behind us. 105 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:27.680 Okay, Hey are you okay? Yeah? What's up? 106 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:31.800 Mike check we're talking about this volume. Okay, we're going. 107 00:06:32.519 --> 00:06:37.360 Yeah, you know where about it? Skimble shanks of it? 108 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:44.800 Rough tub dumber, I don't know. 109 00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:50.160 Alright, alright, alright, uh remember everyone, we are all friends here. 110 00:06:50.199 --> 00:06:53.720 So moving on to the next category, best friend slop. 111 00:06:54.160 --> 00:06:58.199 We have Repo Peak r V, there yet, Guilty as 112 00:06:58.199 --> 00:07:03.759 SoC final Sentence, Mage Arena, Paddle, Paddle paddle, Mosquito Gang 113 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:07.480 Supermarket simulator, and keep digging. I'm gonna get out of 114 00:07:07.480 --> 00:07:09.759 the way early friends. Slap is a term of endearment 115 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:13.759 when we say it, I'm pro friends. Yes, yes, there's 116 00:07:13.839 --> 00:07:16.600 not a pejorative. I would I only want to slap 117 00:07:16.680 --> 00:07:18.000 them up with the boys exactly. 118 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:20.279 We should have put steaks on. 119 00:07:20.839 --> 00:07:24.120 I very much want to play final Sentence that sounds. 120 00:07:23.879 --> 00:07:26.600 That's the one where the typing Royal. 121 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:29.399 I think we should do that. I I love typing stuff. 122 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:31.319 I think I'm pretty good at it, and I would 123 00:07:31.319 --> 00:07:32.720 like to do a Battle Royal with that. But I've 124 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:34.160 not played it. Has anyone here played it? 125 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:34.319 No. 126 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:36.839 I watched a lot of the Next Lander play and 127 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:38.839 they were using their minds. It was so funny. 128 00:07:38.879 --> 00:07:41.240 Yeah, every time you get error and like gives you 129 00:07:41.319 --> 00:07:43.720 like the the red text and they're like ship like 130 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:44.920 every time, it's funny. 131 00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:48.000 Okay, we gotta do that soon. Majorna, Is that the 132 00:07:48.040 --> 00:07:53.240 one where Dan was running around just saying I enjoyed. 133 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:54.319 That was a good time. 134 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:57.600 So I'm gonna I'm gonna take out sentence. I want 135 00:07:57.600 --> 00:07:59.360 to say same was guilty of sock. That's been one 136 00:07:59.360 --> 00:08:01.720 that's on my list for a while. It looks very 137 00:08:01.759 --> 00:08:07.879 interesting to me. But is that it's the judge courtroom socket. Yeah, 138 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:08.920 it seems interesting. 139 00:08:09.879 --> 00:08:12.199 I said, we played r V there yet I was 140 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:12.920 I didn't really. 141 00:08:12.839 --> 00:08:16.800 Get it, So that'supposed that's like laser targeted at me. 142 00:08:17.079 --> 00:08:18.040 I like the Friends slop. 143 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:21.480 I like moving a vehicle through treacherous terrain and it 144 00:08:21.519 --> 00:08:22.720 didn't it didn't quite have it. 145 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:24.519 And smoking cigarette and smoking cigarettes. 146 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:29.040 God, yeah, you were outside. We need to try it 147 00:08:29.079 --> 00:08:31.079 again because I was talking to like Mary Kiss and 148 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:32.840 she like adores it and she loves friends slops. 149 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:34.720 I wonder we just had a bad early run with it. 150 00:08:34.840 --> 00:08:37.360 Probably we were also we did have tech issues. We did, Yeah, 151 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:39.080 we had tech issues. We had some other problems. I 152 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:41.039 bet you know it's in early access. I bet it's 153 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:43.279 changing pretty rapidly. We need to try it again, but 154 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:44.960 based on what we played, let's cross it off. 155 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:47.720 I'm gonna say it's because I wasn't there yeah, right, 156 00:08:47.759 --> 00:08:53.279 we didn't have the sloppiest of our friends though. Please. Yeah, 157 00:08:53.399 --> 00:08:55.080 I see Remap has been playing it a lot and 158 00:08:55.120 --> 00:08:58.919 they're having a bunch of fun. I didn't think it 159 00:08:59.000 --> 00:09:02.120 was the best one of these, but I do appreciate 160 00:09:02.200 --> 00:09:08.240 that Mosquito Gang had the Mosquito cover of Daddy Yankees Gasolina. 161 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:10.960 I forgot where the other one was a ull Star Gasolina. 162 00:09:11.639 --> 00:09:12.440 Yeah, how did it? 163 00:09:12.679 --> 00:09:14.279 Was it like Mosquito buzzing? 164 00:09:14.600 --> 00:09:18.559 Yeah, it's crazy, Okay, I love that, but it did 165 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:20.759 kind of seem unfair because if you were the human, 166 00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:24.440 it was very difficult to actually win the round. 167 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:26.159 Like maybe we would have learned more if you like, 168 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:28.639 played even more, But with these front slop games, I 169 00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:30.080 think you kind of want to figure it out a 170 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:32.000 bit sooner than that you just wanted to work. 171 00:09:32.039 --> 00:09:34.360 Yeah, let's cut ones that we didn't really because we 172 00:09:34.399 --> 00:09:36.159 did at least play that one. There's some here that, like, 173 00:09:36.159 --> 00:09:38.600 I feel like we definitely didn't stream. Did anyone tell 174 00:09:38.639 --> 00:09:39.679 me about Battle Paddle. 175 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:41.440 Paddle Yeah, that was when you guys all and me 176 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:45.720 and bacalar oh right, and it was just man and yeah. 177 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:48.519 So it's a game about two people in a canoe 178 00:09:49.240 --> 00:09:51.360 paddling and one person does one side, the other person 179 00:09:51.399 --> 00:09:53.399 does the other side, and you're on like these very 180 00:09:53.480 --> 00:09:55.840 narrow platforms and you sort of have to like like 181 00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:57.720 drift into them, but you have to work together, and 182 00:09:57.759 --> 00:09:59.679 we're just kind of yelling like and then sometimes we 183 00:09:59.720 --> 00:10:00.799 got if compatible. 184 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:05.000 Yes, there were moments where like the places we were 185 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:07.879 meant to platform on our raft were invisible. 186 00:10:08.240 --> 00:10:10.759 Yeah, yeah, and we'd like kind of like figure it out, 187 00:10:10.799 --> 00:10:13.639 and it's like we kind of like were using landmarks 188 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:16.080 and stuff. I had a pretty good time with it, 189 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:17.679 But I'm gonna let you make the call on this. 190 00:10:17.759 --> 00:10:19.000 Do you think it's gonna have a chance to get 191 00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:19.679 in the top three? 192 00:10:19.840 --> 00:10:20.279 I don't know. 193 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:20.879 Maybe. 194 00:10:20.919 --> 00:10:23.879 I mean it's like I thought it was miraculous how 195 00:10:23.919 --> 00:10:25.879 we didn't rip each other's heads off. 196 00:10:25.960 --> 00:10:28.600 Yeah, I did want to rage quit like yeah, but. 197 00:10:29.840 --> 00:10:32.279 Yeah, yeah we got there. I don't know, what do 198 00:10:32.320 --> 00:10:32.919 you think, Chuck. 199 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:35.440 I like when they yell. 200 00:10:38.440 --> 00:10:41.519 It's it's a good time. It might have a difficult time. 201 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:43.600 I don't know it could be in the top three, actually, 202 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:46.840 because I see two for sure that I went on. Yeah, 203 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:47.960 but we'll see about. 204 00:10:47.720 --> 00:10:51.879 The kissed me off. It wasn't the best game now. 205 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:54.600 It was a fun stream, but yeah, the game itself. 206 00:10:54.679 --> 00:10:55.759 I think Mike said, you want to be able to 207 00:10:55.799 --> 00:10:57.440 figure out right away. I think that's a key part 208 00:10:57.440 --> 00:10:59.440 of Friends. It's like you want to like instantly, like 209 00:10:59.480 --> 00:11:01.679 Peak gets the top of the mountain. Yep, yep, Okay, 210 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:04.039 we get it all right, I'm cutting it now. 211 00:11:04.320 --> 00:11:06.840 As funny as Majorina was stream, I don't know how 212 00:11:06.919 --> 00:11:09.200 much of a game there was there that you found 213 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:11.120 out at least that's fine, okay, but. 214 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:13.000 I mean it's still Friends Lobby. We can cross it off, 215 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:13.960 you're right, yeah, I mean, like. 216 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:15.759 Out of these ones in the bottom here, I would say, like, 217 00:11:15.919 --> 00:11:17.840 keep digging. I enjoyed a lot. And that's one where 218 00:11:17.840 --> 00:11:20.639 the monkeys farther than each other's mounts. It was at 219 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:21.240 the end of the world. 220 00:11:21.320 --> 00:11:23.519 It's funny because there's also a game about digging a hole, 221 00:11:23.559 --> 00:11:25.639 and that's a single player game, and I liked them 222 00:11:25.720 --> 00:11:28.799 turning it into more of a multiplayer thing. Here, it 223 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:31.639 was pretty poorly balanced that it was so fun that 224 00:11:32.080 --> 00:11:35.240 clearly kind of sort of didn't matter. You know, you 225 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:38.840 had the teleporters, right, and that's like okay, checkpoints, yeah, yeah, 226 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:41.320 the checkpoints like that's like breaking the purity of a 227 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:43.799 game about digging a hole. Then we got to far 228 00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:46.200 each other's faces as monkeys and just kind of falling 229 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:49.159 down the thing, right, So it was a fun experience. 230 00:11:49.240 --> 00:11:50.960 I don't know how much I respect it as a game. 231 00:11:51.039 --> 00:11:53.399 Well let's say, okay, is it crazy to say that? 232 00:11:53.480 --> 00:11:57.240 I think Repo and Peak are pretty obviously locks. So 233 00:11:57.240 --> 00:11:59.480 we're looking it down there, like which one of paddle 234 00:11:59.480 --> 00:12:02.080 Paddle paddle supermarket simulator? And do we want We. 235 00:12:02.080 --> 00:12:05.039 Haven't talked about supermarket simularity. And that was a blast, 236 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:07.559 great time. I remember having three of us and Nikki. 237 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:09.799 That was a really fun time. Dan leading the way 238 00:12:09.799 --> 00:12:11.679 because you know, it's in his blood and everything. And 239 00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:14.159 then I'm like the hilarity of putting me and Nikky 240 00:12:14.200 --> 00:12:18.440 on the cash resters and Nikki acting acting like cashier 241 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:20.159 is trying to like figure out how to pass the 242 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:22.159 time when it's like, well there's no customers, Hey, how 243 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:23.679 you doing over there? Like we try to make our 244 00:12:23.720 --> 00:12:24.120 own fun. 245 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:25.519 Yeah, And all the tools you can do to like, 246 00:12:25.559 --> 00:12:27.000 you know, you can edit the sign, you can put 247 00:12:27.039 --> 00:12:30.759 up like JPEGs I was putting up on the walls 248 00:12:30.799 --> 00:12:32.639 and stuff like that was really fun. 249 00:12:32.480 --> 00:12:34.600 At the moment where you all bought the DLC and 250 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:37.879 I didn't, so I literally couldn't enter the same mocking 251 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:40.559 you moment here. 252 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:45.399 I'm just on the outside, Love me. I died when 253 00:12:45.399 --> 00:12:47.519 that happened. That was the funniest thing this year. 254 00:12:47.639 --> 00:12:50.799 God, boy, I think Supermarket says, out of those three. 255 00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:53.240 Yeah, I'm I think I'm okay with that. Pad Pedal 256 00:12:53.320 --> 00:12:57.399 was was fun, but Supermarket was like fully fulfills the 257 00:12:57.480 --> 00:13:00.720 idea of friends. Stop giving everyone something to do. Yeah, right, 258 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:03.080 paddle paddle paddle. That max is out of two. 259 00:13:02.960 --> 00:13:06.320 Right, Okay, you have to have more friends than that. 260 00:13:06.559 --> 00:13:08.960 Yeah, no, I think I agree, all right, so I'm 261 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:12.639 going to cut paddle, paddle, paddle and keep digging. Yeah. 262 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:15.120 What was that other game we checked out this year 263 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:18.159 that was kind of like a GTA like and we had. 264 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:24.639 The weird one one. Yeah, that's fun, not a good game, 265 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:28.720 all right, It's important that we remember for best momentary 266 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:30.919 sequence when those monkeys farther than each other's mouth. 267 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:34.639 Of course like that. Yeah, so our top three as 268 00:13:34.759 --> 00:13:38.919 right now we have Repo, Peak and Supermarket Simulator. 269 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:43.559 Boy, I think Peak is hard to be here. Peak 270 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:47.440 did when you yesterday or multiplayer. 271 00:13:47.440 --> 00:13:50.720 We don't even think about REPO for that. So still, 272 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:54.919 I mean, I will say that I like Repo's deployment 273 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:58.320 of like the talking heads and like the most. 274 00:13:58.080 --> 00:13:59.159 The Terrence and Philip heads. 275 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:05.320 God, I remember Nikki and Sean hiding underneath a bed. 276 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:08.879 Yeah, and Grub too. Yeah, we we had the under 277 00:14:08.919 --> 00:14:09.600 the bed meeting. 278 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:10.960 Yes, under the bed meeting. 279 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:12.000 Yeah. 280 00:14:12.039 --> 00:14:14.679 I think I think that actually might put REPO ahead 281 00:14:14.679 --> 00:14:17.360 as the friends slop game is the lean so hard 282 00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:21.639 into that, But maybe the gameplay itself isn't as interesting 283 00:14:21.600 --> 00:14:25.080 as it is. Just like Lethal Company, you know, get 284 00:14:25.399 --> 00:14:27.159 valuable items into the conferences do. 285 00:14:27.279 --> 00:14:27.759 Happen to you? 286 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:28.159 Right? 287 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:29.080 Okay, so you're right. 288 00:14:29.120 --> 00:14:31.120 The structure of like what the game is asking of 289 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:33.039 you is very simple and similar to the other games. 290 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:36.039 It's not even just that similar. Since that I've always 291 00:14:36.039 --> 00:14:38.320 thought that concept is a little similar. I think that's 292 00:14:38.320 --> 00:14:41.639 what makes Peak the fun multiplayer game is the teamwork. 293 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:43.559 But this leans so hard until, like you said, like 294 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:45.919 the flapping heads and the text of speech and like. 295 00:14:45.960 --> 00:14:47.200 That that anything can happen. 296 00:14:47.240 --> 00:14:49.679 Like you, you don't know what the next haunted haunted 297 00:14:49.879 --> 00:14:51.360 objects is going to do to you. As good as 298 00:14:51.360 --> 00:14:55.080 your voice right, changes your voice, your controls get fucked up. 299 00:14:55.639 --> 00:15:00.559 You're figuring out, like what the the music b They're like, 300 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:02.159 why am I moving on my own? 301 00:15:02.200 --> 00:15:04.679 And then someone else has to look at you and realize, oh, dude, 302 00:15:04.720 --> 00:15:06.519 you're spinning with the meloria. 303 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:09.600 You turned into a like an irritating stick or whatever. 304 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:11.679 And then yes, and then we found that like one 305 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:13.679 doll in the room and we were all like what 306 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:15.519 do we do here? And like I think you attacked 307 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:16.720 or like you came in the room and like tried 308 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:18.519 to pick it up and it attacked you, like. 309 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:20.360 There's a little duck or something. And then we all 310 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:21.639 like scattered. Yeah it was. 311 00:15:21.919 --> 00:15:25.240 And there was cool moments like when we played it. 312 00:15:25.360 --> 00:15:27.519 Uh did we play it twice? I think in the 313 00:15:27.559 --> 00:15:30.200 first time, when like everyone else had died, I'm like 314 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:32.279 on my own, try to survive. And I found that 315 00:15:32.360 --> 00:15:34.360 like giant box that would give over the edge of 316 00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:36.759 you guys were like I watched later because you were 317 00:15:36.759 --> 00:15:38.559 all talking on the other side like he's not good, 318 00:15:38.600 --> 00:15:41.000 do it? He doesn't he wait too And then I 319 00:15:41.039 --> 00:15:42.840 managed to get into the car and Gary went back. 320 00:15:42.919 --> 00:15:45.120 I think that also like leans into the friend slop 321 00:15:45.159 --> 00:15:45.320 of it. 322 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:46.080 All absolutely. 323 00:15:47.399 --> 00:15:50.120 Peak's also really good for that kind of stuff. 324 00:15:49.960 --> 00:15:51.440 If it does it again mixed up too, Like you know, 325 00:15:51.480 --> 00:15:53.080 I love this stuff in Repo where it's changing your 326 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:55.080 voice and all that stuff. But like you know, Peak 327 00:15:55.240 --> 00:15:57.120 has those things too, where these items and it sounds 328 00:15:57.120 --> 00:15:59.480 like they keep adding things to thing you can eat 329 00:15:59.559 --> 00:16:00.960 and I don't know what it's gonna do to me. 330 00:16:01.519 --> 00:16:03.919 When Kayla was just eating random mushrooms and got fucked up, 331 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:05.240 you know, like, yeah. 332 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:06.799 Right, I think that's the fun thing too. When you 333 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:08.840 die and you're the ghost, you can still talk to people. 334 00:16:08.919 --> 00:16:09.759 It's really funny. 335 00:16:09.879 --> 00:16:12.159 Yeah, you get knocked out and someone has to carry 336 00:16:12.159 --> 00:16:13.080 you up the mountains. 337 00:16:13.200 --> 00:16:16.080 Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say, I remember when Kayla 338 00:16:16.159 --> 00:16:18.399 is eating a bunch of mushrooms, Dance stayed behind to 339 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:20.720 check up on her, and I thought, well, I should 340 00:16:20.720 --> 00:16:24.679 stay with these two. And then somehow Kayla came back 341 00:16:24.679 --> 00:16:27.519 to life, and then I died, and when Kayla was 342 00:16:27.559 --> 00:16:31.000 just carrying and yelling at my dead body, like okay, 343 00:16:31.039 --> 00:16:33.720 that's pretty it's pretty sick. And like, you know, the 344 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:36.320 interactions with the items and stuff, like we've said yesterday, 345 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:40.320 also like like all of us being so dead set 346 00:16:40.360 --> 00:16:42.720 like we're gonna throw this rope, You're gonna catch it, 347 00:16:42.879 --> 00:16:47.159 It's gonna be fine. You whiffed it, and then like 348 00:16:47.200 --> 00:16:49.360 the attempt to go down the mountain and then you 349 00:16:49.440 --> 00:16:50.320 just die again. 350 00:16:51.559 --> 00:16:53.360 In such a pillar of friend slop. Is that prox 351 00:16:53.440 --> 00:16:55.559 chat and like its great and repo, but also when 352 00:16:55.559 --> 00:16:58.559 you're like yelling down you know, canyons and mountains and stuff, 353 00:16:58.679 --> 00:16:59.679 that is funnier for. 354 00:16:59.639 --> 00:17:01.960 Proxy another room, you know. 355 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:04.599 Yeah, yeah, I mean the prox change and repos, like 356 00:17:04.759 --> 00:17:07.160 the the enemies can hear you and stuff like that. 357 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:08.880 But I still think you're right there in Peak, just 358 00:17:09.200 --> 00:17:10.720 the disc distance. 359 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:15.039 Someone just from like a whisper to like, wait, who 360 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:15.359 is that? 361 00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:17.839 Yeah? 362 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:22.119 That I feel like it was always you and Kayla 363 00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:25.640 Jan just sort of being like yeah, she's just acting 364 00:17:25.680 --> 00:17:26.759 like she would in real life. 365 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:29.799 You wandering around. 366 00:17:29.559 --> 00:17:31.039 And she be yelling you do. 367 00:17:31.519 --> 00:17:34.000 I guess my head right now is kind of ad 368 00:17:34.279 --> 00:17:38.440 repos maybe quantity, and then Peak is quality, you know, 369 00:17:38.519 --> 00:17:41.559 like the most friends slop versus the best. Yeah, it 370 00:17:41.599 --> 00:17:44.319 does it does say best right there, So I think 371 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:45.160 Peak is the better game. 372 00:17:46.480 --> 00:17:51.119 All right, it's probably Peak. Well, congratulations to Peaks. I'll drop, 373 00:17:51.640 --> 00:17:53.079 I'll play with either one of these games at the 374 00:17:53.119 --> 00:17:53.440 drop of it. 375 00:17:54.839 --> 00:17:58.839 I want to play these now. Yeah, we should just 376 00:17:58.880 --> 00:18:00.599 get all the video game LUP sites on it. 377 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:03.279 Yeah. Day four Game of the Year will be within Peak. 378 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:05.440 Yeah this is Peak. 379 00:18:05.559 --> 00:18:07.720 Second award, that's true. 380 00:18:08.680 --> 00:18:09.319 Second award. 381 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:12.599 Uh So, congratulations to Peak and the runners up, Repo 382 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:16.839 and Supermarket Simulator. Moving on to the next category, we're 383 00:18:16.920 --> 00:18:23.000 churning boys. Best New Website one nominee here giant bomb 384 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:34.160 dot com. We should talk about its, okay, you want 385 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:36.920 to talk about No. I was joking very very infrequently. 386 00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:41.480 I'm tired website. I learned how it works last night, 387 00:18:42.599 --> 00:18:45.960 about how websites work. Now do you retain that information? 388 00:18:46.039 --> 00:18:47.519 Actually, yeah, it was pretty easy. I think I can 389 00:18:47.559 --> 00:18:47.880 do it again. 390 00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:51.960 I was watching Dan edit his review for Terminator two 391 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:53.839 D no Fate. You should check it out on giant 392 00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:55.519 bomb dot com. I was watching him do it, and 393 00:18:55.519 --> 00:18:56.720 I was like, I need to fix that. I need 394 00:18:56.720 --> 00:18:58.559 to fix that. I need to fix that. But he 395 00:18:58.599 --> 00:19:00.640 was he was being such a good sport. Good job Dan, Yeah, 396 00:19:01.160 --> 00:19:05.319 great job Dan. New website user. 397 00:19:05.400 --> 00:19:12.359 Yeah, it's actually Lex Luddy. Yeah, give the youth something. 398 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:17.359 I guess I'm youth. You are thank you, Dan, You 399 00:19:17.359 --> 00:19:18.799 are you all right? 400 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:19.359 All right? 401 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:23.680 Moving on to the next category, gang we have speaking 402 00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:26.240 of youth. This is exactly speak of youth. It's going 403 00:19:26.279 --> 00:19:31.000 to be very contentious boomer. Game of the Year. Our 404 00:19:31.039 --> 00:19:35.319 nominees are Marvel Cosmic Invasion, Shnoby, Art of Vengeance, Ninja 405 00:19:35.359 --> 00:19:38.680 Guid and Rage Bound, Oblivion Remastered, Borderlands four, Doom, The 406 00:19:38.799 --> 00:19:41.960 Dark Ages for Good that came out this year, Dragon 407 00:19:42.039 --> 00:19:45.440 Quest one and two, h D two D remake, Mortal 408 00:19:45.519 --> 00:19:50.039 Kombat Legacy Collection, Once Upon a Katamari Yuka replayly Tetris Forever, 409 00:19:50.400 --> 00:19:54.559 Final Fantasy Tactics, The Evilis Chronicles, Golden t Arcade Classics, 410 00:19:54.920 --> 00:19:58.640 Earthy On Time, gal HD Remastered, tony Ok Firstka three 411 00:19:58.680 --> 00:20:00.920 plus four in hair Tick plus Hexit. 412 00:20:01.599 --> 00:20:03.839 So I have a thought out of the gate and 413 00:20:03.880 --> 00:20:08.039 what my thought is kind of mulling over this list 414 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:10.400 for like, I don't know the second time I'm getting 415 00:20:10.440 --> 00:20:14.319 eyes on this here. I have a theory of why 416 00:20:14.400 --> 00:20:17.599 I think the winner should be a certain game? Can 417 00:20:17.640 --> 00:20:20.240 I do that right now? I think the winner should 418 00:20:20.240 --> 00:20:25.680 be Mortal Kombat Legacy here, And here's why boomers are 419 00:20:25.799 --> 00:20:33.839 no better defined by their incessant desire to be presented 420 00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:40.200 with historical information in documentary form. Allah the History Channel, Allah, 421 00:20:40.559 --> 00:20:44.160 all of the World War II fascinations and whatever. And 422 00:20:44.279 --> 00:20:49.680 Mortal Kombat literally delivers a documentary for all the boomers 423 00:20:50.079 --> 00:20:53.319 in the room. I don't know how else we can 424 00:20:53.400 --> 00:20:55.920 better define boomer game. 425 00:20:55.799 --> 00:20:56.279 Of the year. 426 00:20:56.400 --> 00:20:58.200 I have been eating up. 427 00:20:58.839 --> 00:21:01.920 Then a game that literally really like basically puts you 428 00:21:01.960 --> 00:21:05.680 in a lazy boy, put slippers on your feet, gives 429 00:21:05.680 --> 00:21:09.400 you a cigar. And it's just like, I'll just sit down, Grandpa, 430 00:21:09.559 --> 00:21:11.519 I want you to watch a movie about your favorite 431 00:21:11.559 --> 00:21:12.440 Mortal combats. 432 00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:12.960 Yeah. 433 00:21:13.079 --> 00:21:15.319 Yeah, And like Grub and I talking about it, like 434 00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:17.440 it just blew our minds that like it had the 435 00:21:17.440 --> 00:21:19.480 moment that ed Boone had the idea for the spear 436 00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:20.960 during the moap stuff. 437 00:21:20.680 --> 00:21:22.880 Like getting to like getting you see that moment happen 438 00:21:23.279 --> 00:21:25.119 on it, Like they had the camera pointed right at 439 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:27.279 him as he came up with the idea. Yeah, And 440 00:21:27.319 --> 00:21:30.039 it's just unbelievable that history has now been preserved. 441 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:33.240 It is catnip for a certain type of persons, several 442 00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:34.640 of us in this room. 443 00:21:34.839 --> 00:21:37.640 Yeah, let's well that's not going anywhere. Well, we'll share it. Yeah, 444 00:21:38.079 --> 00:21:40.279 I'm you know what. I will preemptively though, I will 445 00:21:40.319 --> 00:21:44.680 bowld it talking about maybe cut stuff like grub. 446 00:21:44.759 --> 00:21:47.640 I think you and I specifically like you can replately 447 00:21:47.720 --> 00:21:50.119 should be for us, and I think neither of us 448 00:21:50.160 --> 00:21:52.160 hate it. That's right, but also neither of us have 449 00:21:52.279 --> 00:21:55.200 really like gotten into Yuka lately at any point. Yeah, 450 00:21:55.200 --> 00:21:57.480 it's every time I've tried. It's not sun it for me. 451 00:21:57.599 --> 00:22:00.519 Is this a real Mastery? Is kind of a remake. 452 00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:03.400 It's a remaster with some extra edits. Yeah. 453 00:22:04.319 --> 00:22:06.440 Yeah, it's the three D platformer one, which actually the 454 00:22:06.440 --> 00:22:08.279 two D one is the better one. 455 00:22:08.440 --> 00:22:09.119 It looks better. 456 00:22:09.400 --> 00:22:10.640 And I was like, okay, I'm finally going to get 457 00:22:10.640 --> 00:22:11.880 into this, and I did a little stream of it 458 00:22:11.920 --> 00:22:13.839 and it's just like, okay. I never really went back 459 00:22:13.880 --> 00:22:16.519 to it. It's just not super grabbing me. I would 460 00:22:16.559 --> 00:22:17.640 say we cut that, okay. 461 00:22:17.680 --> 00:22:20.279 And I didn't get a chance to play Time Gal 462 00:22:20.480 --> 00:22:22.400 HD remaster. I threw it on there with the hopes 463 00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:23.960 that I would. I'm not so we can cut that 464 00:22:24.039 --> 00:22:24.839 unless anyway. 465 00:22:24.559 --> 00:22:26.079 Oh, I mean it's really cool. 466 00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:26.920 That was Timegal. 467 00:22:27.400 --> 00:22:30.200 It's so it's like an anime version of Dragon's Layer. Yeah, 468 00:22:32.079 --> 00:22:33.920 to be one of the best of those kinds of games. 469 00:22:34.319 --> 00:22:37.240 Can I ask that we chop Shanobi Art of Vengeance 470 00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:39.400 from this list because I think Boomers would hate that game. 471 00:22:39.480 --> 00:22:42.319 So as somebody who like does love the old Chenobi games, 472 00:22:42.519 --> 00:22:44.279 it doesn't really play very much like the old Chino. 473 00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:47.000 It's got the juice, it feels amazing. It's a very 474 00:22:47.079 --> 00:22:49.160 sm game, and I just I don't think it hits 475 00:22:49.160 --> 00:22:49.599 with Boomer. 476 00:22:49.720 --> 00:22:51.880 Yeah, as as kind of the champion of that game, 477 00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:54.319 I like, I agree, because I think it feels so 478 00:22:54.519 --> 00:22:57.960 modern that's almost like, you know, shed the like Boomers of. 479 00:22:58.039 --> 00:23:02.240 The old positively a game which is yeah, it's too 480 00:23:02.319 --> 00:23:06.400 good to be there. It's yeah, it just doesn't feel 481 00:23:06.440 --> 00:23:08.039 like a Boomer game. I agree. 482 00:23:08.599 --> 00:23:10.559 One I would like to go to bat War. On 483 00:23:10.599 --> 00:23:13.000 this list that I think should be bolded is Final 484 00:23:13.000 --> 00:23:14.680 Fantasy Tactics The Even Chronicle. 485 00:23:14.720 --> 00:23:17.680 See interesting, I was gonna I was about to nominate 486 00:23:17.720 --> 00:23:22.480 that to get cut chuck. Wow, Yeah, this is common friction. No, no, no, 487 00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:24.839 I love it. This is I think it's if it's 488 00:23:24.839 --> 00:23:28.400 not on my top ten, it's like right around there, hovering, 489 00:23:28.519 --> 00:23:30.920 and I think just like the quality of changes that 490 00:23:30.640 --> 00:23:35.279 they've done have like modernized it in a way that 491 00:23:35.440 --> 00:23:37.799 I'm glad that there's so many people that can finally 492 00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:41.400 check out Final Fantasy Tactics that either only ever checked 493 00:23:41.400 --> 00:23:46.559 out the GBA titles, And it just it doesn't feel 494 00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:49.920 like a boomer ass game the way that some of 495 00:23:49.960 --> 00:23:53.400 these other games make me roll my eyes parenthesis positive 496 00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:56.920 maybe yeah, but like I don't know, I feel like 497 00:23:56.960 --> 00:23:58.880 the writing is so fresh, and then just seeing some 498 00:23:58.920 --> 00:24:02.680 of the deps talk about how the story still resonates 499 00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:07.079 unfortunately with the modern world we live in, I don't 500 00:24:07.240 --> 00:24:09.599 think of it as a boomer game just because it 501 00:24:09.720 --> 00:24:13.079 still feels it. It feels like a fresh coat of painting. 502 00:24:13.240 --> 00:24:14.559 I think for a lot of like the people that 503 00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:16.519 did play it at that time, I think they would 504 00:24:16.559 --> 00:24:18.480 be like, good, another reason to play that game again, 505 00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:20.559 which I think is kind of like maybe the definition 506 00:24:20.640 --> 00:24:23.240 of this category. But I don't know, does anyone like 507 00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:25.039 feel like they have a good grasp of what we 508 00:24:25.079 --> 00:24:26.880 mean when we say Boomer game of the year because 509 00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:29.200 it's like, oh, great, another reason to go back to 510 00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:30.519 this game I played my entire life. 511 00:24:31.119 --> 00:24:34.480 Or it can be the spirit of something that right 512 00:24:34.559 --> 00:24:37.839 right retro inspired I think is maybe for that or 513 00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:41.720 a really good remake I think, yeah, a lot of 514 00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:43.680 lead paint in its bloodstream. 515 00:24:43.319 --> 00:24:45.519 Right right, No, I'm kind of with you, Chuck. I 516 00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:49.559 I definitely thought more of like not the I guess 517 00:24:49.559 --> 00:24:52.079 a bit of a not a negative conversation, not like 518 00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:57.559 these are bad games, but they certainly serve the Boomers. Yeah, 519 00:24:57.599 --> 00:24:58.720 and boomer is never. 520 00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:01.880 You know, start being a more specific older auds. 521 00:25:01.960 --> 00:25:02.640 Yeah, I was. 522 00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:04.799 I was gonna say Boomers never used to sort of like, 523 00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:06.559 you know, praise a person. 524 00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:10.839 For everything we just mentioned. I'm nominating a cut in 525 00:25:10.960 --> 00:25:13.359 Doom the Dark Gages because I also think did any 526 00:25:13.359 --> 00:25:14.400 of us really play that. 527 00:25:16.240 --> 00:25:16.799 Tired out? 528 00:25:17.079 --> 00:25:19.599 I did too, And it's also like, yeah, it's boomering 529 00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:21.200 the fact that Doom is an old series, but like 530 00:25:21.240 --> 00:25:22.920 it feels new enough to like, I don't think it 531 00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:26.119 do the same thing with Borderlands four. Honestly, it's a 532 00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:28.000 slightly less lame version of Borderlines three. 533 00:25:28.400 --> 00:25:31.839 Did anyone spend more time in Borderlands four? Put a 534 00:25:31.839 --> 00:25:34.319 few hours into a total, but it crashed on me 535 00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:35.240 a bunch and I gave up. 536 00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:37.920 Well, it sounds like you're not a real gamer with 537 00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:38.480 a real PC. 538 00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:41.640 That's right, wait premium, Yeah, you're not a premium gamer. 539 00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:44.759 Sorry mang gear didn't give me a piece. Shots out 540 00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:46.720 to the main gearer dot com slash. 541 00:25:46.400 --> 00:25:48.799 Time use meinger dot com slash sham bam. 542 00:25:49.160 --> 00:25:51.440 Okay, can you guys need to give me more money 543 00:25:51.519 --> 00:25:54.200 so I could buy a PC from Yah? 544 00:25:54.599 --> 00:25:56.000 I think we need to call them beating right. 545 00:25:56.000 --> 00:26:02.839 Now, Unionized Sean if we do want to. 546 00:26:02.759 --> 00:26:05.720 Ninja Guide and Rage Bound is is very much trying 547 00:26:05.720 --> 00:26:08.000 to be a direct sort of successor to those Ninja 548 00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:12.079 guiding games while giving the fresh code of paint. Is like, hey, 549 00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:14.400 let's really amp up the platforming action. It does a 550 00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:16.920 really good job at that, you know, so a few 551 00:26:16.920 --> 00:26:19.319 other things going on, while also being very old school 552 00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:22.759 and its presentation one of my favorite games of the year, Like, 553 00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:25.759 it's definitely like top ten, top fifteen range. 554 00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:29.240 I don't know if it nic throwback, which kind of 555 00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:31.519 feels yeah, it might feel absolutely. 556 00:26:31.799 --> 00:26:33.200 I would like to see it stick around a little 557 00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:35.680 bit longer because I feel like, unlike Shanobe, it really 558 00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:38.079 is trying to be the rest of Religion game in 559 00:26:38.119 --> 00:26:40.839 a year where we had two other more modern Ninja 560 00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:46.000 Guidance Mike, you really like Dragon Questshdye. 561 00:26:46.279 --> 00:26:48.720 I've only played one. I've played through one then took 562 00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:49.720 a break from Metroids. 563 00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:51.799 I don't started two yet, but you know, it's very 564 00:26:51.799 --> 00:26:54.599 similar to what happened with gianon Quest three, where it's 565 00:26:54.640 --> 00:26:57.279 like it's like a good mix of being that original game, 566 00:26:57.319 --> 00:27:00.960 but then they do add a lot of you kind 567 00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:03.440 of have small changes and especially like little story be 568 00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:05.839 thought that the game is suddenly superfilled with storm. You know, 569 00:27:05.880 --> 00:27:09.119 the original game is very bare bones. It's only one 570 00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:11.160 v one fights. You're still one person. He could fight 571 00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:14.400 many mosters. So like, even as it's being monerized, it 572 00:27:14.440 --> 00:27:17.720 still feels very old school, right. Yeah, It's almost like 573 00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:19.799 they made it more like a sixteen bit or a 574 00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:21.640 RPG instead of an eight bit one. So yeah, it's 575 00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:24.759 definitely very boomeray. Still, I believe I like it a lot. 576 00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:27.200 All Right, Tetris Forever came out in twenty twenty four. 577 00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:31.279 Well that's a boomer thing thing I did. 578 00:27:31.759 --> 00:27:35.720 Wow, the merit boom boomers can't handle looking at Tetris 579 00:27:35.759 --> 00:27:36.400 Forever too long. 580 00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:42.680 I would like to cut Oblivion remastered. I think they 581 00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:47.119 did a wonderful job. They kept in the flubbed voice lines, 582 00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:49.559 and it's got a lot of its old charm. But 583 00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:53.200 I don't know if it like grabbed anybody in there. 584 00:27:53.400 --> 00:27:55.680 I mean I really wanted to spend more time with that. 585 00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:58.480 I was having a good time. Uh I do, I do. 586 00:27:58.559 --> 00:28:00.359 I think it's pretty good for this category, other than 587 00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:03.359 the fact that it had some bad tech issues launched. 588 00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:05.400 Yeah, well does I mean it's you know, it's a 589 00:28:05.440 --> 00:28:07.759 Pathiestic game. Yeah, the test game, and it's an unreal 590 00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:11.799 Engine game. So yep, we can, we can. Okay, we 591 00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:12.279 got it. 592 00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:16.000 Uh. I really like to pro Skater three plus four 593 00:28:16.119 --> 00:28:18.160 like that. I want too, Yeah, I want to keep 594 00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:18.799 that out. 595 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:20.559 That's the game I think of where I'm like, I 596 00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:22.680 was pretty excited for and that all the boomers in 597 00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:25.400 my life were like, this is going to church. I'm 598 00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:28.079 so yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. 599 00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:31.119 Even like the change your stuff for which has been discussion, Yeah, 600 00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:33.920 I am like ninety percent fine with them. There's like 601 00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:36.200 a little bit like turning Zoo from like an actual 602 00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:38.359 level of goals into more of a competition level was 603 00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:40.559 maybe a little lame, sure, but otherwise I'm like, no, 604 00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:44.839 I think I'd rather play the t HPS four levels 605 00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:47.319 like that, and Tony pro Skater three, three and three 606 00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:48.599 just so freaking good. 607 00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:53.359 Gosh, gosh, goshy. I think another thing that this category 608 00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:55.359 makes me think of is that it taps into your 609 00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:59.240 muscle memory, yes, of playing the original game, and that's 610 00:28:59.279 --> 00:29:01.680 what the ox per Skater three plus four does. 611 00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:03.480 I feel fine bold in it? 612 00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:05.279 Ye, baby, I I. 613 00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:09.240 I what's earthy On cool? Earthly On is a user 614 00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:12.160 Kaushiro his studio where he works. 615 00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:15.000 He's like designer and does the music and then uh, 616 00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:17.079 he works with one other person that does all the coding. 617 00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:22.200 It is a new side scrolling space shooter, but that 618 00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:26.759 can They released it for the Genesis as well, and. 619 00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:30.720 It's really really good shoot Genesis the game. 620 00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:33.880 The game itself is a Genesis rom that on Steam 621 00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:36.079 using an emulator, play it and then they have physical 622 00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:40.880 copies coming later, like and all that stuff. 623 00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:45.200 Is extremely boomer and it's such a boomer genre too, 624 00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:49.079 yeah right, yeah, and it's it's really fun to play. 625 00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:51.200 It's one of those ones where it's like you sit down, 626 00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:52.880 you can play it, finish it in an afternoon, but 627 00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:54.319 then you know, you can go back to it and 628 00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:56.680 there's a lot more to like learn and master. Uh 629 00:29:57.079 --> 00:29:59.240 but yeah, it's just it's also just you know, a 630 00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:02.359 solid sho that has all this accoutrement around it that 631 00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:04.079 kind of puts it over the top for. 632 00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:04.799 Being a boomer game. 633 00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:05.759 I let's keep it for now. 634 00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:09.200 Yeah, for sure, Herotic and Hecsan. I think they did 635 00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:11.640 a really good job. I learned that I like Heretic 636 00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:13.440 and maybe I don't like Hexan that much. 637 00:30:13.680 --> 00:30:16.119 Okay, what I like. 638 00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:18.359 I like the playing those games a bunch of though, Mike, 639 00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:20.440 I don't kind of feel like it'd be you and 640 00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:21.359 me to sign to keep it. 641 00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:24.799 I love these as well, and I love what they inspired. 642 00:30:24.839 --> 00:30:28.279 In terms of games that directly reference these, I'm trying 643 00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:31.319 to think, like amid Evil, for example, that those are 644 00:30:31.359 --> 00:30:33.440 better boomer games than these games. 645 00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:37.319 They and they did a few things. 646 00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:39.079 They also did Outlaws this year, which I spent a 647 00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:40.359 little bit of time with, and I like that. 648 00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:44.960 They also did System Shock like Anniversary Edition, which is 649 00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:45.519 really good. 650 00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:47.759 Yeah, they always do good stuff non off. 651 00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:50.079 It's as good as their power sleeveg Zoomed from a 652 00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:51.000 course of years back. 653 00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:52.559 Yeah, I mean, I I do. 654 00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:54.839 They did a really good job and they added some 655 00:30:54.920 --> 00:30:58.799 nice quality of life stuff to the game. It sounds 656 00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:02.000 like y'all are still high ones again. It's just like, 657 00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:04.359 there's some there's some heavy hitters at this point. Now, 658 00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:08.720 does Marvel Cosmic Invasion Do I really like it? 659 00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:09.480 I like it too. 660 00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:11.319 I like the combat a bunch. Can I give it 661 00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:13.680 give out its case for being a boomer game? Yes? Please. 662 00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:16.799 So it's the things that it is inspired by are 663 00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:18.799 like obviously like a lot of old comics, types of 664 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:21.279 old comic like series. I guess that it's taken a 665 00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:23.599 lot of stuff from but also the Beat Him Up, 666 00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:26.200 the arcade Beat Him Up, which is like a mount 667 00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:29.480 rushmore of boomer arcade games from that era. And then 668 00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:32.799 it's also taken stuff from Marvel versus cap Come and 669 00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:35.480 it's like, yep, the boomer fighting game that like now 670 00:31:35.640 --> 00:31:37.519 like looms over so many other games that have any 671 00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:40.559 sort of tag mechanic. Uh, And it's it's you know, 672 00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:43.839 pixel style, it's going for all that, like every checkbox 673 00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:46.960 it's it's got for being kind of a to appeal 674 00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:48.200 to older style gamers. 675 00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:50.480 Well maybe I was just fishing for someone else to 676 00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:51.640 fight for it, and he did, Greb. 677 00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:53.440 I think it's I think we got to keep it 678 00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:54.039 for now at least. 679 00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:55.759 Yeah, I'm surprised to hear that from you. Guys. I 680 00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:57.559 thought I thought people were a little mid on it, 681 00:31:57.599 --> 00:32:00.799 but well, I'll say I did it. Love it. I 682 00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:01.160 like it. 683 00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:02.000 I just like it. 684 00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:03.039 Yeah, love it. I don't. 685 00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:03.920 I don't love it. I like it. 686 00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:05.759 And it's a good time with friends who especially I 687 00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:07.960 got family members who are big into Marvel, and Marvel 688 00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:11.519 beat them up specifically, and playing it with them was great. 689 00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:14.400 It's not as good as some other like obviously absolutely 690 00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:17.000 sure of the year. This is not as good as 691 00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:19.920 Streets to Rage four, but it's it's good enough, and 692 00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:21.559 then everything else kind of puts it over the top 693 00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:24.079 of being like, oh, it's worth the money we're spending time. 694 00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:27.680 Yeah, the familiarity with Marvel definitely will help the casual 695 00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:29.759 person or relapse the game or get back into it. 696 00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:32.680 Yeah, they should have hadded psight clubs. So huh, Mike, 697 00:32:33.480 --> 00:32:35.319 they might hurt it in the end. It might hurt 698 00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:39.920 in the end. Golden Tea, I mean it's very boy 699 00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:40.960 but also. 700 00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:44.000 On so Golden Tea is another one of those collections 701 00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:46.559 that is from the people that did Mortal Kombat Legacy 702 00:32:46.599 --> 00:32:47.759 Collection and Tetris Forever. 703 00:32:48.119 --> 00:32:50.160 It's not it's just not as good because the games 704 00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:50.640 aren't as good. 705 00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:53.319 All right, Golden, Is this the one where if you 706 00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:55.640 have a trackball mouse, you can flip it over and 707 00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:58.880 you can spend it one so smart? That's hard? 708 00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:00.480 Who has a try Mills? 709 00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:05.359 Yeah? Yeah, Somewhere. 710 00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:08.519 I did just realize Terminator two D No Fate would 711 00:33:08.599 --> 00:33:11.440 absolutely be a boomer game. I mean, it's based on 712 00:33:11.480 --> 00:33:14.799 a boomer movie and several different genres. But if you 713 00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:16.519 see my review on jihme bum dot com, I gave 714 00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:18.960 it two point five out of five stars point five. 715 00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:22.480 That's very brave of you, Dan. I'm I consider myself 716 00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:25.480 brave for that. It is good at some of the 717 00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:27.359 stuff it's doing, but ultimately it. 718 00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:30.359 Is very very short. I brought up the thirty dollars price. 719 00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:33.119 Point being a huge downside, but I don't think at 720 00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:35.440 any price it would necessarily be top three here. But 721 00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:37.720 definitely a boomer game, and I like that. 722 00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:41.960 I love the Katamari games, but I've never really thought 723 00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:45.039 of Kamari as a specifically boomer series. I think, like 724 00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:48.039 actually very timeless. I mean, I just bought an Apple 725 00:33:48.119 --> 00:33:51.359 Arcade game this year that is also excellent, and I 726 00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:53.720 kind of feel that the formula just holds up as 727 00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:57.319 just this fun, esoteric thing, and I don't think of 728 00:33:57.359 --> 00:33:58.599 it in the same way I think of the rest 729 00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:02.200 of the game. So even though I love Rolling Live 730 00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:04.359 and Once Upon Acatemory, I don't think either of them 731 00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:05.359 fit in this category. 732 00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:09.000 I'm with you, can I can? I fight for something 733 00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:12.519 that I'm glad we didn't cross out yet, Final Fantasy Tactics. 734 00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:16.119 I think the argument of it's too good of a 735 00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:19.400 remaster is not good enough for me. I think this 736 00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:22.679 game might be the best playing game in this list, 737 00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:27.440 aside from Shnoby Shnoby Art event. This is just like 738 00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:30.039 I mean, the full voice acting, shouts out to Bens Starry, 739 00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:33.480 the way they touch us up. It has that beautiful 740 00:34:33.519 --> 00:34:37.599 like two d HD look to it, just like a 741 00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:40.039 really lovingly crafted remaster. 742 00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:43.159 And this is an old game, y'all. It is. 743 00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:46.280 It is truly a boomer game. It is just one 744 00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:48.159 of the best games on the list. It's like, say, 745 00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:51.400 great remaster and it still has a retro feel to it. 746 00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:54.360 Like I think, you know, in my personal top ten list, 747 00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:56.519 I think this is in there somewhere for me. 748 00:34:56.760 --> 00:34:59.719 So yeah, I love this. I'm so glad they did this, 749 00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:00.559 and they did it right. 750 00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:02.079 Well, so are we. 751 00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:07.639 Got it cut it uh earth on, Like God, it 752 00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:09.719 feels right for this cat, so right for it. 753 00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:12.039 It's so it's like, gosh, it's so Boomery to me. 754 00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:14.480 Impressed it that they made a new game. 755 00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:16.239 That is that Boomer. I think we can save it 756 00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:18.719 for now Ninja Guide and Rage Bound. Do we see 757 00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:20.760 it hanging out? 758 00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:23.840 It's it's a great game and it's very boomer so 759 00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:26.519 like I, I would still like to see it stick 760 00:35:26.559 --> 00:35:29.639 around more than like Marvel Cosmic Invasion. I don't know 761 00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:30.119 if it's. 762 00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:32.880 It's similar to Marble for me, but I'm trying to 763 00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:37.239 like I probably do. I'm now hovering around Heretic and Hecks. 764 00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:40.280 I think you get right. It's good. 765 00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:43.360 But I think other Nightdive joints, like the stuff on 766 00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:46.360 Quake and Doom and Power Sleeve has been more. 767 00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:52.159 Oh yeah, never played Quake. We got to fix that. 768 00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:54.559 I would like to try quick. I've never played the 769 00:35:54.599 --> 00:36:01.920 original Doom either. WHOA, Okay, I really like Marvel Cosmic Invasion. 770 00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:05.800 But with the other Boomer games that we have highlighted 771 00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:08.159 not hanging, will it stay? 772 00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:10.599 Yeah? Like I said, I probably am the biggest sort 773 00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:12.199 of pusher for that, and I. 774 00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:13.480 Will says a guy. 775 00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:17.800 I'm with you here because it features Cosmic ghost Rider, Yeah, 776 00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:19.480 my favorite character. 777 00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:21.679 I think really cool basically. 778 00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:25.639 Yeah, yeah, we can. We can cut it. Okay, I'm sorry, 779 00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:28.360 that's okay. You guys have sold me on it some more, though, 780 00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:29.119 so I'm gonna go try that. 781 00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:31.440 It's a very big it's absolutely worth playing. 782 00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:31.719 Yes. 783 00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:35.599 Does it max out at like four players? Yeah, and 784 00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:37.599 then everybody gets too, so we should be that. Yes, 785 00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:38.639 we should do. It's a good time. 786 00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:39.400 Yeah, you can. 787 00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:42.039 You can cut drying quests and like in Cosmic Convension, 788 00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:44.440 when the character dies, they're just all crumpled on the ground, 789 00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:45.679 right and you just leave them. 790 00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:46.440 Is that that game? 791 00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:48.400 Yeah, but you can get them back if you eat 792 00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:50.199 a big turkey, a big purple turkey. 793 00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:53.239 It's it's like the pizza in the tmn T one. 794 00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:58.559 He'll both your characters. Yeah, yeah, okay. I feel like 795 00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:00.719 the thing that is on the verge of getting cut 796 00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:03.800 is it either Ninja Guide and Rage Bound or Earthy On. 797 00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:07.639 I'll I'll say, as someone who's been talking Ninja Guiden, 798 00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:11.360 I feel like Earthy On fits the category better. Boomer. 799 00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:13.320 It's so boomer and it's a great game. 800 00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:15.920 Yeah, it goes over the top to be boomer like. 801 00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:18.639 It's like it's a quarter selling point. I respect how 802 00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:19.440 boomery it is. 803 00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:21.000 Yeah, it makes me. 804 00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:23.159 It makes me feel old when I play it in 805 00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:23.960 a way that I like. 806 00:37:24.159 --> 00:37:26.280 Like, I mean the fact like releasing it on Genesis 807 00:37:26.360 --> 00:37:28.159 is one thing, but that means like user Cacurra had 808 00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:30.960 to go back and use the Yamaha like soundship and 809 00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:33.239 stuff to make music again, the thing that made him 810 00:37:33.280 --> 00:37:36.159 famous in the first place. It's cool, Like it's a 811 00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:37.199 whole cool concept. 812 00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:38.199 Yeah, it really is. 813 00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:40.320 So we have three bolded right now, but we still 814 00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:43.760 have two more that could be bolded to stay as 815 00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:46.159 part of the conversation. That is Ninja Guide and Rage 816 00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:50.320 Bound and Final Fantasy Tactics. Between these two, I would 817 00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:52.960 definitely lean towards Tactics. Yeah, I do too. 818 00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:56.960 Yeah, I would give it up for Fantasy as well. 819 00:37:57.119 --> 00:37:59.719 Okay, and I you know I love Ninja Guide and Ragement. 820 00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:03.920 So we have four bolded right now, too many, and 821 00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:06.360 we need to cut one of them. But once again, 822 00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:09.119 let's go through those. We have Mortal Kombat Legacy Collection, 823 00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:13.559 Final Fantasy Tactics, the Evilies Chronicles, Earthy On and then 824 00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:16.079 Tony OK's pro Skater three plus four. Thinking of Tony 825 00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:18.639 Hawk as a boomer game kind of makes me upset. Yeah, 826 00:38:18.679 --> 00:38:20.199 but I mean it is. 827 00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:27.679 It's a different kind of like yeah, getting. 828 00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:30.360 No, no, no, no, I fully agree that I'm old as ship. 829 00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:31.920 Now no, you're well you're not. 830 00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:34.920 But I think you. I think your instincts make a 831 00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:35.320 good point. 832 00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:37.400 A car from twenty five years ago would be a 833 00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:39.360 classic car now, I guess. 834 00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:42.559 But but you know, if we're going by that logic, 835 00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:46.320 boomers are seventy five years old, right, like, so. 836 00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:48.880 Yeah, we know how we're using. 837 00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:52.840 Oh yeah, I think Tony Hawk is like it's kind 838 00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:55.320 of yeah, just is it too young? I think it's 839 00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:58.000 too new. Like I showed my kid that and he's 840 00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:00.880 like this rules like a boomer game. 841 00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:03.280 He shouldn't like damn thoughts. 842 00:39:03.760 --> 00:39:05.920 I'm a key thing about motal Kmbat. I mean literally, 843 00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:08.000 like two days ago the airport, I was watching those 844 00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:10.159 documentaries and I was watching the old you know, TV 845 00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:13.079 commercial with everyone running through the streets screaming Mortal Kombat, 846 00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:13.639 and it was like. 847 00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:16.760 Mortal Kommet's a museum that you go to on your 848 00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:19.679 like it's a museum that an old person. 849 00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:21.840 And we'd be remiss like not talking about that collections 850 00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:24.159 like problems, and it does have like this thought the 851 00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:27.880 greatest emulation. It has input leg problems, some worse on 852 00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:30.159 other platforms. I think it's it's because I think in 853 00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:32.519 the boomer perspective, you almost don't care as much about 854 00:39:32.559 --> 00:39:34.280 that stuff because you do. 855 00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:35.480 Just that was awesome. 856 00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:37.960 It was mostly on one platform, it was it was 857 00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:40.599 the biggest one. Yeah, the PlayStation had the issues, but 858 00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:42.559 like I think they're working on them and stuff. On 859 00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:45.119 the other platforms, it's like especially PC, it's it's fine. 860 00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:48.000 Yeah, Like just watching that stuff and playing the individual 861 00:39:48.079 --> 00:39:50.480 like versions of the Sega and the super versions of 862 00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:53.079 Mortal Kombat one and remembering like, oh, and I'm in 863 00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:54.960 my house, I've got you know, the blood cote and stuff. 864 00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:57.000 Then I go over to Larry's house and he's got 865 00:39:57.000 --> 00:39:59.960 the like stupid sweat Super Nintendo version. Like remembering those 866 00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:02.599 we heard fights about, Like it really brought me back 867 00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:04.480 to like, you know, first and second grade. 868 00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:07.360 I think it's maybe the game out less where I 869 00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:10.159 can't see younger people really getting into that one, but 870 00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:11.159 boomers would love it. 871 00:40:11.239 --> 00:40:12.679 I mean, you had a hard time getting into when 872 00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:13.239 we were playing it. 873 00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:15.960 Well, yeah, because I've literally never played the old Mortal 874 00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:18.320 Kombats for extent period like a couple of times. That 875 00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:24.079 arcade and trouble make it the absolute winner. 876 00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:28.079 Let me say this about a couple here. Profit The 877 00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:30.599 Tactics features the voice talents of Ben Star, who's very 878 00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:33.840 young and hip h Tonyx pro Skater three plus four 879 00:40:33.880 --> 00:40:35.760 features Jack Black. 880 00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:38.599 Who. 881 00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:44.119 It does have Bammar Jerra and there was like a 882 00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:46.840 push to get Bammar Jaron and then that comes exclusively 883 00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:47.519 from boomers. 884 00:40:48.119 --> 00:40:50.320 I've never heard a kid bring up John Tobias. 885 00:40:50.440 --> 00:40:55.639 Yes, listen, we're still talking about cutting one, Like yeah, yeah, yeah, that's. 886 00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:58.400 What you have to I want to say something painful. Yeah, 887 00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:01.719 you guys are talking about earth on I can't imagine 888 00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:05.880 what you're talking about. I appreciate the cartridge, but I 889 00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:08.239 need to see this touch just picture. 890 00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:10.960 Have you ever seen like thunder Force or just any 891 00:41:11.000 --> 00:41:17.039 sixteen scrolling spaceship that and like it really is that one? 892 00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:18.320 That hell fund gradious? 893 00:41:18.880 --> 00:41:19.159 Yeah? 894 00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:22.960 Yeah, like it's it's almost my favorite one on the list, 895 00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:26.960 to be honest, personally, because I think it's just it's again, 896 00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:29.800 it's this new game which I think. There's this game 897 00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:32.679 Saya Genesis game It people do that and it's kind 898 00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:34.679 of gimmicky. This one is really well done. 899 00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:38.400 This is from one of the guys, is Tony Hawk. 900 00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:43.159 T yep, Tony Hawk is too new. I think that's 901 00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:45.159 Tony It's a quarter century old. 902 00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:48.199 What I'll say though about Tony Oks per Skater is 903 00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:51.960 that it like feels like it's too swaggy in comparison. 904 00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:54.400 I think it's It might go back to Sean saying 905 00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:56.320 that one of the games was was timeless. Is Tony 906 00:41:56.360 --> 00:41:58.280 Oks pro Skater more of a timeless game than these 907 00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:00.039 other ones where it's like Tactics is. 908 00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:02.960 Definitely as we talk about how Tactics story still yeah, right. 909 00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:04.920 Skateboarding is still very cool. 910 00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:07.159 I think. 911 00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:08.440 Exactly. 912 00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:11.639 I think Tactics is also pretty timeless. Like this is 913 00:42:11.719 --> 00:42:15.000 just the new RPG that, like, you know, RPG fans 914 00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:15.480 would play. 915 00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:17.760 I don't think anyone would bad. And I let me 916 00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:18.159 put this one. 917 00:42:18.159 --> 00:42:19.920 We're talking these timeless games that are still really fun 918 00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:23.519 to play. I play Mortal Kombat Legacy Collection and I 919 00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:25.400 love it so much just because I remember being obsessed 920 00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:28.280 with that. I cannot imagine a young fighting game player 921 00:42:29.480 --> 00:42:30.000 combat too. 922 00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:33.519 You know, Mortal Kombat's safe, and I think safe. 923 00:42:33.519 --> 00:42:35.840 We're talking about either cutting Tony Hawks or Final Fantasy 924 00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:36.920 Tony Hawks. 925 00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:40.239 Got I think I'm doing that all right. I think 926 00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:43.159 that's that must be where we're at the alter respect. 927 00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:45.159 It's not even one in two the older ones. 928 00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:49.119 They add a new levels, how dare they? The thing 929 00:42:49.159 --> 00:42:52.800 I do want to just add last minute about tactics, 930 00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:55.360 and it's probably not going to win this category, but 931 00:42:55.480 --> 00:42:57.639 out of all the h D two D stuff, I 932 00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:02.159 think I like this the most because I I really 933 00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:05.119 want to like Octopath Traveler. I really want to like 934 00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:08.679 Project Triangle Strategy whatever it's called. 935 00:43:09.559 --> 00:43:11.280 Off the time, is this even HD two it's I 936 00:43:11.320 --> 00:43:13.519 think it's like a very light version of very light. 937 00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:16.199 I mean it kind of was always that, Its right, 938 00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:18.039 That's probably why you like it is a three D game. 939 00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:22.119 They kind of nailed it from the jump and then 940 00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:26.440 and yeah that was mostly it. But there's something so 941 00:43:26.639 --> 00:43:29.800 novel about hearing that there's a new Genesis game coming 942 00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:33.360 out on cartridges. Yeah that is cool. Yeah. 943 00:43:33.639 --> 00:43:37.280 I The thing about Mortal Kombat Legacy Collection is bouncing 944 00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:39.079 back and forth between the museum and the games where 945 00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:40.599 It's like you are in the museum and you're seeing 946 00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:43.599 the documentary and they taught they'd say something about the game, 947 00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:45.480 and I want to go play that right now. 948 00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:46.880 Then there's a button right there. It's like, just go 949 00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:47.440 play the game. 950 00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:50.199 And bouncing back and forth between those two states is 951 00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:51.679 like they nail that stuff. 952 00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:54.840 And it's like that's like for our age grub specifically, 953 00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:56.960 like Atari fifty is fascinating and it was put together 954 00:43:57.000 --> 00:43:58.960 so love time. 955 00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:03.440 I love thee the Greatest Generation right, that's too old, right. 956 00:44:03.480 --> 00:44:06.039 It was like, oh, this is specifically for me. 957 00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:10.039 Yeah, when we were having that little tournament here in 958 00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:12.639 this room, like you mentioned, Chuck Son, you did feel 959 00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:15.360 like being at a friend's sleepover and is passing the 960 00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:17.920 control around and that does feel very boomery. I got 961 00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:20.599 my cheeks clapped playing that. It was I was having 962 00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:21.519 a blast. It was so fun. 963 00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:25.639 It was amazing, like remembering that smoke combo that I 964 00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:27.800 used to do as a ten year old, and it 965 00:44:27.880 --> 00:44:31.280 just immediately like I hope this still works, and it did. 966 00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:33.920 It was this bizarrely good feeling. 967 00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:36.840 I can I make a real pitch for Mortal Kombat 968 00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:39.719 being the winner here. This is the last game my 969 00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:44.079 mom could beat me at a. 970 00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:45.719 Literal boom boom. 971 00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:48.119 Yeah, I think I think it's Mortal Combat. 972 00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:48.400 Yeah. 973 00:44:48.599 --> 00:44:50.800 I really liked the idea of Earthy On winning this 974 00:44:50.840 --> 00:44:53.360 and even I think it's probably Mortal Kombat. It's just 975 00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:57.719 the perfect idea of this whole concept of letting of 976 00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:00.760 getting all this information and having real editors and journalists 977 00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:03.199 go in and explore a topic and say, here, I 978 00:45:03.199 --> 00:45:04.639 know what people are going to be interesting because I'm 979 00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:06.400 also one of those boomers, and just putting it all 980 00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:09.880 together in such a sleek package, and it's it's awesome. 981 00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:12.000 It's really we should have listened to Backlar from the 982 00:45:12.039 --> 00:45:17.199 top and some time yet. 983 00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:17.960 Have more time to go back to the cats category. 984 00:45:18.039 --> 00:45:19.400 No, just went well. 985 00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:22.800 If people do like that Mortal Kombat game, though, play 986 00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:26.639 Atari fifty. It's great. It really is a fantastic documentary 987 00:45:26.639 --> 00:45:27.000 as well. 988 00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:30.119 All right, best Boomer game of the Year runners up 989 00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:34.280 Earthly On, Final Fantasy Tactics, The Evilies Chronicles, and Winning 990 00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:48.559 is Mortal Combat Legacy Collection. Congratulations? Oh sorry, sorry Sirry Yeah, definitely, no, 991 00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:52.519 those are gay. How are we feeling? We we think 992 00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:54.280 we could go do another category. 993 00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:56.679 I think it would be good to toss a bricky break, 994 00:45:57.400 --> 00:45:58.800 bricky bricky. 995 00:45:58.559 --> 00:45:59.400 Let's get bricked up. 996 00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:01.760 Everybody see on the other side of this, I don't 997 00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:06.559 have to pee. You never do a right dog. It's 998 00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:10.599 time to start the show. Are you ready to go? Uh? Dude? 999 00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:12.079 Yeah, dude, I'm ready. 1000 00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:15.280 No, crump, you look like you are in a den 1001 00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:17.039 of iniquity right now. 1002 00:46:18.639 --> 00:46:20.880 I don't know what that means, and I don't know 1003 00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:23.760 what you want. It's not like I have a home studio, Jan, 1004 00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:24.760 Yes you do. 1005 00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:28.000 The computers that main Gear built for us have Nvidia 1006 00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:31.320 g Force RTX Chippoo's in them, and with the Nvidia 1007 00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:35.239 Studio drivers and in video broadcast, you can turn even 1008 00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:39.039 your man cave into a professional studio. Using broadcasts, you 1009 00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:43.559 can upgrade your webcams, microphones, and speakers using the power 1010 00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:46.599 of machine learning to take our shows, voice chats, and 1011 00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:49.480 video conferences to the next level. You can use audio 1012 00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:50.840 effects like noise removal. 1013 00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:53.599 Oh yeah, I guess I have a fan on. Well, 1014 00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:55.719 it's hot, I'm not going to turn that off. Let 1015 00:46:55.719 --> 00:46:59.079 me just hit this right here. Is that any better? 1016 00:46:59.159 --> 00:46:59.320 Jan? 1017 00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:03.000 Much better? We can clean up your shot with auto 1018 00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:06.559 frame and video noise removal and Grub. You can even 1019 00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:09.280 make it look like you were paying attention using the 1020 00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:10.880 eye contact. 1021 00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:12.719 Tool so I could still watch my stories. 1022 00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:17.480 Yes, yes you can. Nvidia Broadcast is a universal plugin 1023 00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:20.639 that works with most live streaming, voice chat, and video 1024 00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:25.360 conferencing apps. It's supported on any n Video, g Force, ARTXGPU, 1025 00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:29.360 and since I'm using the Nvidia Studio drivers, I'll get stable, 1026 00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:33.280 optimized performance in Adobe Photoshop, Da Vinci resolved in all 1027 00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:35.719 the other apps that I need to use to fix 1028 00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:37.440 our mistakes in post you know what. 1029 00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:39.800 Thank you to ban Gear and in Nvidia for supplying 1030 00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:43.440 are in Vidia Studio PCs in Video Broadcast, your AI 1031 00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:47.000 powered home studio and video studio, the software advantage for 1032 00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:48.079 all creators. 1033 00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:49.400 Jan, I'm not. 1034 00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:52.119 Even looking at the camera at all right now, Grub, 1035 00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:53.599 stop stop looking at me. 1036 00:47:54.119 --> 00:47:55.320 I haven't looked at you forever. 1037 00:47:58.320 --> 00:47:59.039 Everyone, I think. 1038 00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:02.400 I want to take this opportunity to congratulate Jeff grab 1039 00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:05.400 On holding a screwdriver. We're all very proud of him. 1040 00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:09.000 He's been really weird with like potentially violent props lately. 1041 00:48:10.239 --> 00:48:15.320 Screwdrivers have always scared me, uh Jen, and he's one 1042 00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:16.920 on one. Do you guys not watch. 1043 00:48:18.440 --> 00:48:19.920 A lot of stuff. They're so sharp. 1044 00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:23.880 It's so sharp, and uh yeah, I'm not going to 1045 00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:24.679 touch the tip. 1046 00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:26.800 But thank you, Jan for everything you've done for me. 1047 00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:31.400 I'm using coupons now because of you. Wow. That means 1048 00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:32.679 the world to me. There we go. 1049 00:48:33.239 --> 00:48:35.800 You didn't know about coupons. I know about them. 1050 00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:39.400 I thought you were one of these coupons. 1051 00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:43.360 I was afraid of them, scared of being Oh, you're 1052 00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:47.119 still not paying the uh listed retail price for things 1053 00:48:47.199 --> 00:48:47.559 or whatever. 1054 00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:52.719 No, I'm financially cavalier with mr uh excuse me, it's 1055 00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:53.440 ghost dog. 1056 00:48:53.440 --> 00:49:04.480 Please, He's sorry. All right, all right, gang. 1057 00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:08.559 Well that's enough heartwarming things for now, because our next 1058 00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:11.639 category is something very fun for some people. 1059 00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:14.800 Disappointment of the Year. 1060 00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:21.119 God, I feel Backlars. He's just emanating right now. He 1061 00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:26.039 rubbed Xbox l I, x Mario, Kart World, Wants Hunter, Wilds, 1062 00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:33.679 Mug Sizes five G, Everybody's Hot Shot, Golf to a T, Mafia, 1063 00:49:33.760 --> 00:49:39.599 The Old Country, FBC, Firebreak, hyper Light Breaker, Super Mario Party, TM, 1064 00:49:39.719 --> 00:49:44.159 Jamboree Dash, Nintendo Switch TM two Edition plus Jamboree TV, 1065 00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:47.960 Drag and Drive, Metroid Prime four, and then they switched to. 1066 00:49:48.679 --> 00:49:50.679 Oh I want to customer Mike Manatti. 1067 00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:52.760 The mugs are not too small. 1068 00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:54.519 Thank you, great size mug. 1069 00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:56.360 Yeah, it turned off of a very normal size. 1070 00:49:56.480 --> 00:49:58.239 Go fuck yourself perfect. 1071 00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:01.960 If you have a Cure Egg that has a large setting, 1072 00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:03.119 you just need another mug. 1073 00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:06.360 Wow, Mike for you. I'm not even going to cross 1074 00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:09.480 it out. I'm going to delete it. Whoa, there we go. 1075 00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:12.719 I want to offer a cross out here in backlar. 1076 00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:14.880 We'll see how you feel about it. So the rock 1077 00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:18.400 Xbox ally x we uh. We did a kind of 1078 00:50:18.440 --> 00:50:20.000 first look at it when it first came out of video, 1079 00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:22.960 and it's maybe the least flattering hardware profile you could 1080 00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:25.679 possibly see the original video when nothing worked at all. 1081 00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:28.599 But now that it's I do have it working. I 1082 00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:31.000 do hate the window cross it off. I'm already convinced. 1083 00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:34.840 Can we replace it with the Windows Full Screen Experience instead? Ooh, 1084 00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:37.559 good call, because that's the that's the app that they 1085 00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:39.840 came up with to make all these windows hands. 1086 00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:41.519 Dan, you're still not actually using this. 1087 00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:44.760 I just loaded them to Steam like every once in 1088 00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:46.679 a while, like during Simpsons Fortnite. I used it for 1089 00:50:46.800 --> 00:50:48.960 like efic store stuff. So it's nice to have all 1090 00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:51.639 those store fronts stuff I just do Steam ninety eight 1091 00:50:51.679 --> 00:50:53.039 percent of the time. And me being the dumb bitch 1092 00:50:53.079 --> 00:50:53.239 I am. 1093 00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:55.719 I totally bought into Microsoft being like we care about this, 1094 00:50:55.760 --> 00:50:57.840 We're going to get this right. And I think the 1095 00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:00.199 Windows full Screen experience is disappointed still. 1096 00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:03.719 Is the Windows full Screen experience only on the rock No, 1097 00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:06.679 they put they started, it's going to be on the 1098 00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:08.679 Lenovo leadon go To is gonna have it, And I. 1099 00:51:08.679 --> 00:51:10.400 Don't think it's rolled out to anything else. It's supposed 1100 00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:12.199 to be everywhere. That's just supposed to be a like 1101 00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:14.039 Steam Big Picture Mode. It's supposed to be like that 1102 00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:15.760 in the Xbox app and on handhelds. 1103 00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:18.360 I think that, Yeah, the software is what we're just. 1104 00:51:18.840 --> 00:51:21.760 Yeah, that's hardware is like I like the heart, Like 1105 00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:25.079 when I traveled here, I brought That's the main thing 1106 00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:27.119 I've been bringing it. Yeah, Yeah, it's solid. 1107 00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:29.719 The thing I would complain about, and I think this 1108 00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:34.199 is not exclusive to portables, is if you are using 1109 00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:37.880 like Bluetooth controllers, there's just still like lag and it's 1110 00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:39.800 like some of that stuff is like not the best. 1111 00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:42.599 There's gonna be so many variables, yeah, like there's. 1112 00:51:42.599 --> 00:51:45.679 Because you're just there are all these different you know computers, right, 1113 00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:46.000 you have. 1114 00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:47.519 The audio kinda cutting out. I was watching the Mortal 1115 00:51:47.559 --> 00:51:49.840 Combat legacy collection stuff in my AirPod kind of getting 1116 00:51:49.880 --> 00:51:50.239 crack late. 1117 00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:54.000 Like there's you know, ironically, could still be a Windows that. 1118 00:51:56.400 --> 00:51:58.320 The rock, And I think it's a it's a it's 1119 00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:01.920 a bit of a misnomer to like associate all of 1120 00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:04.360 those Windows shortcomings with just the rock. 1121 00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:06.039 So that's that's a Windows. 1122 00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:13.840 Experience. Oh my god, it is hot hot doukie. 1123 00:52:13.400 --> 00:52:15.559 And it just it solved zero the problems it was 1124 00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:18.480 it was portrayed to be solving of, like here's gonna 1125 00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:20.079 be the one experience you can go into and every 1126 00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:21.679 like it's gonna be like a steam deck and everything 1127 00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:24.159 will be like updated here and handled here, and like no, 1128 00:52:24.199 --> 00:52:26.119 you still have to navigate through windows sometimes. 1129 00:52:26.119 --> 00:52:31.039 And it's compounded by the I feel like maybe saying 1130 00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:35.280 the lie is like too harsh, but like this incredibly 1131 00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:40.679 disingenuous idea that like they somehow are standing behind this 1132 00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:41.519 thing and like. 1133 00:52:41.719 --> 00:52:44.119 It's like always they know the problem and they don't 1134 00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:44.800 know how to solve it. 1135 00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:45.079 Yeah. 1136 00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:47.480 I think the bigger problem is they had a plan, 1137 00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:50.039 because they talked about this with some like journalists and stuff. 1138 00:52:50.119 --> 00:52:52.000 They had a plan, and the plan is good, and 1139 00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:54.639 they outline technically how it would happen, you know, like 1140 00:52:54.800 --> 00:52:57.360 reducing ram usage of Windows by not having the desktop 1141 00:52:57.400 --> 00:53:00.360 and stuff. They just fucked up the plants and that's 1142 00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:01.480 the disappointing execution. 1143 00:53:01.719 --> 00:53:06.519 So gross, how bad that experience is, and it should 1144 00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:10.480 not go unpunished everyone being forced to deal with it. 1145 00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:12.880 In my home when I built a computer for my 1146 00:53:12.960 --> 00:53:14.679 kid recently, and I'm like, all right, so you gotta 1147 00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:26.320 go to Windows, Like I thought Windows was bad because 1148 00:53:26.320 --> 00:53:29.000 she uses the original Roger Ally and I'm like, look, 1149 00:53:29.039 --> 00:53:31.880 let me just do it this Windows. 1150 00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:33.039 Taking you told me not to take candy from. 1151 00:53:34.119 --> 00:53:36.000 It had that same entergy like you told me not 1152 00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:36.519 to do this. 1153 00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:39.199 So yeah, Windows full screen? 1154 00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:44.199 How dare you crust out the ally x there? 1155 00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:44.440 Yeah? 1156 00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:49.239 Did anybody even really have any hopes for Drag Extra Drive? 1157 00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:50.559 No? 1158 00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:54.559 No, it's like and yet it's somehow still very disappointing. 1159 00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:56.800 It's worse than you would expect exactly. 1160 00:53:57.039 --> 00:53:59.079 That's what makes it uniquely disappointed. 1161 00:53:59.159 --> 00:54:01.239 Maybe maybe the can is not big enough there. 1162 00:54:01.440 --> 00:54:03.639 I like that winter this is the one that like, oh, 1163 00:54:03.639 --> 00:54:05.400 we're all excited for it, and then like they had the. 1164 00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:08.800 Cat, the bar was low for dragon and drive and 1165 00:54:08.840 --> 00:54:11.920 then it's somehow still fell under it. 1166 00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:15.760 If you're gonna make a game where you're representing like 1167 00:54:16.119 --> 00:54:17.280 part of the population, like. 1168 00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:18.679 We talk about that, so nothing to do with a 1169 00:54:18.679 --> 00:54:20.679 wheelchairs nails happened. 1170 00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:24.239 Wheels nail the details, like show some respect to like 1171 00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:26.360 what you're trying to do, spend the time on it 1172 00:54:26.400 --> 00:54:26.960 to get it right. 1173 00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:31.599 Like cyborgs they like and Nintendo won't call them wheelchairs 1174 00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:33.960 is a base war situation. I wish it was a 1175 00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:34.880 base war situation. 1176 00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:36.280 Every day in my life. I wish it was a 1177 00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:36.719 base wars. 1178 00:54:36.800 --> 00:54:40.800 I thought they were just cyborgs like bolted into the. 1179 00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:45.360 Game, like about like wheelchair basketball and like mean to 1180 00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:46.400 people in wheelchairs. 1181 00:54:46.440 --> 00:54:47.480 Isn't that called murder ball? 1182 00:54:47.559 --> 00:54:49.599 Right right? 1183 00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:53.000 I thought the sport was called I don't know. I 1184 00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:55.079 think we could cut to a t. I don't think 1185 00:54:55.079 --> 00:54:56.599 it's the biggest disappointment of the year. 1186 00:54:56.679 --> 00:54:58.920 I was pretty disappointed by it. I mean, like I 1187 00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:01.599 love Katamari lot and it's like all the trailers and 1188 00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:03.559 everything's like, oh, this looks like I love this concept 1189 00:55:03.559 --> 00:55:06.199 and everything, and very quickly it was like, oh, this 1190 00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:07.400 is not the game I'm looking for. 1191 00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:09.920 I wound up like beating it and it was just 1192 00:55:10.599 --> 00:55:12.800 I think I was looking for more zaniness like a 1193 00:55:12.840 --> 00:55:15.320 Kato Mari would present and then what was his other 1194 00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:19.159 game after Kato Mario? We know boy, something similar to that, 1195 00:55:19.239 --> 00:55:21.320 but this was like kind of like a lighthearted bromp. 1196 00:55:21.920 --> 00:55:25.599 It wasn't anything. It also has a fantastic title sequence. 1197 00:55:25.880 --> 00:55:29.039 Sure it just like I kind of got bored. Yeah, 1198 00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:32.480 a lot to the gameplay. Yeah, yeah, so I based 1199 00:55:32.519 --> 00:55:35.000 off of some other things, especially after hearing I'll talk 1200 00:55:35.039 --> 00:55:38.599 about windows for a minute. 1201 00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:42.639 I didn't play Mafia. I mean to who put it 1202 00:55:42.679 --> 00:55:43.039 on here? 1203 00:55:43.519 --> 00:55:44.079 I don't know. 1204 00:55:44.119 --> 00:55:46.440 I think maybe just like the energy of the group did. 1205 00:55:46.599 --> 00:55:48.760 I talked to Vinnie about this game for a long time. 1206 00:55:48.840 --> 00:55:52.719 He really likes I enjoyed something. You like it and 1207 00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:53.119 I like it. 1208 00:55:53.159 --> 00:55:58.079 And it's a narrative, linear, straightforward game. And I'm typically 1209 00:55:58.719 --> 00:56:00.519 it's not like, oh, that's for poison into me, but 1210 00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:02.280 usually they have to do a little something to win 1211 00:56:02.320 --> 00:56:04.280 me over. This one did in terms of just having 1212 00:56:04.320 --> 00:56:08.719 the right presentation, great great performances, and it doesn't get 1213 00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:09.400 in its own way. 1214 00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:12.119 It has good pacing. It also has Italian vision. It 1215 00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:13.000 has Italian vision. 1216 00:56:13.760 --> 00:56:15.840 Yeah, yeah, you can like, what do you see. 1217 00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:20.199 See there's a Canoli over there, man COTTI see the 1218 00:56:20.199 --> 00:56:21.159 oil waves in the air. 1219 00:56:21.320 --> 00:56:27.599 Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Trail Mafia the Old Country for 1220 00:56:27.679 --> 00:56:29.199 me is like a Sleeperhead of the Year. 1221 00:56:29.360 --> 00:56:31.039 That's cool. I'm going to play. 1222 00:56:31.079 --> 00:56:33.800 That's it's a friend of the website mask Matt Piscatel 1223 00:56:34.440 --> 00:56:34.920 Game of the Year. 1224 00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:36.880 I see I've not got He's not sad me his 1225 00:56:36.960 --> 00:56:40.400 top ten list. I think that's to be the case. 1226 00:56:40.400 --> 00:56:42.280 We'll see, we'll see what he says. All right, that'll 1227 00:56:42.320 --> 00:56:43.880 be on giant bomb dot com this weekend. 1228 00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:45.199 And Mafia is about Italian? 1229 00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:48.000 Did you know the Godfather was Italian? 1230 00:56:48.239 --> 00:56:50.440 I do know that, Yes, okay, all. 1231 00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:52.400 Right, I don't think about it while I'm watching it, 1232 00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:53.559 but if you ask me, gun in my head to 1233 00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:54.840 be like, yeah, it's Italian Mafia. 1234 00:56:54.920 --> 00:56:59.639 Yeah okay, nice Sopranos. Was that Italian? Yes, okay, I'm 1235 00:56:59.639 --> 00:57:02.199 going to get ahead of this. This is our list. 1236 00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:06.079 This is Giant Bombs, and I know it's I am 1237 00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:09.800 maybe the outlier on Metroid Prime four being so hot 1238 00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:12.920 on him when I do want to want to get 1239 00:57:13.159 --> 00:57:14.880 of it because and you sure you want to do 1240 00:57:14.920 --> 00:57:19.400 this right now? I dan standing. 1241 00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:24.800 So I played pickup hockey once a week with a 1242 00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:27.039 bunch of guys I've been playing with for for a while, 1243 00:57:27.679 --> 00:57:30.920 and you know a lot of them are like first 1244 00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:33.400 name basis guys. I just you know, I go. I'm 1245 00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:35.400 there like maybe twice a month. I try. I just 1246 00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:37.360 try and go when I when I just need conditioning. 1247 00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:40.239 You know, there's a dude there who uh was a 1248 00:57:40.320 --> 00:57:42.480 very real sweet guy. We we get along. I only 1249 00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:45.960 know him by his first name, and we were sitting 1250 00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:47.920 on the bench, you know, waiting to get back on 1251 00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:49.440 the ice, and he turned to me and he goes, 1252 00:57:50.159 --> 00:57:53.400 I think I saw you doing like a Metroid review. 1253 00:57:55.280 --> 00:57:56.800 Why don't you give it a five out of five? 1254 00:57:58.599 --> 00:57:59.599 Had this guy played it? 1255 00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:01.239 Finished it? He did? 1256 00:58:01.440 --> 00:58:01.519 Ye? 1257 00:58:03.440 --> 00:58:06.280 So you know I instantly deflected and blamed it all 1258 00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:08.039 on you. I'm kidding, I' kidding. 1259 00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:08.760 I stand by it. 1260 00:58:09.320 --> 00:58:12.480 I just thought that should color the kind of situation 1261 00:58:12.639 --> 00:58:14.039 that that that we're going to hear. 1262 00:58:14.239 --> 00:58:18.119 So I understand I believe, like grub Imnati, for sure, 1263 00:58:18.360 --> 00:58:22.199 there is that chasms, very big of disappointment. But for me, 1264 00:58:22.760 --> 00:58:25.880 I was not disappointed at all. I know Sean, You've 1265 00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:28.960 you've got your criticisms, but it's a little disappointing. 1266 00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:31.239 Yeah, it's not like it's not the most I've played 1267 00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:31.519 a lot of. 1268 00:58:31.639 --> 00:58:34.039 Yeah, so for disappointment of the year. I think that's 1269 00:58:34.039 --> 00:58:36.239 why I'm surprised you want to go to it right away. 1270 00:58:36.519 --> 00:58:40.599 I'm not, well, sure, I don't. I don't know if 1271 00:58:40.599 --> 00:58:42.960 that's happening right now. I don't think it's the most 1272 00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:45.559 disappointing thing, but it it did disappoint me a little 1273 00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:49.840 bit because, like, like the guy said, who do expect more? 1274 00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:53.320 We expect so much of Metroid and we'll let them 1275 00:58:53.360 --> 00:58:55.360 down a lot because it wasn't what they were expecting 1276 00:58:55.400 --> 00:58:58.199 out of the game. It even for me knowing what 1277 00:58:58.280 --> 00:59:01.800 to expect, knowing what Prime three was, but these trailers 1278 00:59:01.800 --> 00:59:04.039 were portraying I'm like, oh, yeah, that's that's going to 1279 00:59:04.119 --> 00:59:05.639 be like this, follow it to Prime three. 1280 00:59:05.719 --> 00:59:08.000 That makes sense. It was still a little disappointing to me. 1281 00:59:08.159 --> 00:59:11.159 Yeah, I think that's the thing, right, Like everyone knows 1282 00:59:11.199 --> 00:59:15.159 the development turbulence, right, everyone knows the past and how 1283 00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:15.880 we got. 1284 00:59:15.639 --> 00:59:17.400 Here, even accounting for that, right. 1285 00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:21.199 Yeah, And still I'm not saying it's the most disappointing, 1286 00:59:21.199 --> 00:59:22.519 but it might be a bold. 1287 00:59:22.360 --> 00:59:25.960 It's not going anywhere, okay, not right now? Yeah right now, 1288 00:59:26.519 --> 00:59:26.880 you know I. 1289 00:59:26.840 --> 00:59:28.719 Saw him be in it, But like that is because 1290 00:59:28.800 --> 00:59:31.679 I'm I'm kind of slowing down immensely. It's like I'm 1291 00:59:31.719 --> 00:59:34.079 almost pushing myself a little bit. It's I'm not liking 1292 00:59:34.079 --> 00:59:35.960 it less and less the further I get in. That 1293 00:59:36.079 --> 00:59:38.400 whole Lava area was dog shit. 1294 00:59:38.880 --> 00:59:39.840 It was nothing but. 1295 00:59:39.960 --> 00:59:43.159 Just like linear, go to a room, fight things, no platforming, 1296 00:59:43.480 --> 00:59:46.679 no puzzle solving, no exploration. I don't even I don't 1297 00:59:46.679 --> 00:59:48.400 even know if it can call this game in metro Vana. 1298 00:59:48.639 --> 00:59:52.679 At this point we did say that this game is 1299 00:59:52.719 --> 00:59:54.480 not sure, okay. 1300 00:59:54.119 --> 00:59:56.639 Right, and I just, like, you know, I was fine, 1301 00:59:56.719 --> 00:59:58.519 like okay, yeah, so you know you have like this 1302 00:59:58.639 --> 01:00:01.199 desert connecting these like five all their small biomes. As 1303 01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:04.119 long as all those were like many Metroid maps would 1304 01:00:04.119 --> 01:00:06.719 have been fine, but like most of them are just 1305 01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:11.159 very like incredibly linear. Each room has like two exits. 1306 01:00:11.159 --> 01:00:12.519 The way you came in, the way you go out. 1307 01:00:12.760 --> 01:00:15.880 You barely see any extra items or you barely see 1308 01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:17.360 anything like, oh well, I'll be able to come back 1309 01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:20.320 here someday and do that even the rate I'm getting 1310 01:00:20.400 --> 01:00:22.119 upgrades incredibly slow. 1311 01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:23.960 None of them are that interesting or new. 1312 01:00:24.320 --> 01:00:27.559 The one new interesting thing I gotten the viola is fun, 1313 01:00:27.599 --> 01:00:29.039 but you know, like very early on you get that 1314 01:00:29.159 --> 01:00:31.800 charge shot, you kind of move around. That's neat Basically 1315 01:00:31.840 --> 01:00:34.679 nothing else as interesting as that after like being in 1316 01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:35.639 it for ten hours. 1317 01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:37.559 Wait, when you put it that way, it sounds kind 1318 01:00:37.559 --> 01:00:38.039 of diappointing. 1319 01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:41.679 I do think that's the divide here though, because at 1320 01:00:41.679 --> 01:00:43.840 the same time everything Mike was say, I'm like, well, yeah, 1321 01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:45.559 it's that's that's Prime. 1322 01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:46.039 Yeah. 1323 01:00:46.199 --> 01:00:49.559 The Magma area is a very interesting. Neither is Magmare Caverns. 1324 01:00:49.639 --> 01:00:49.840 Yeah. 1325 01:00:50.639 --> 01:00:53.320 I mean, give me a moment, Magmore caverns. 1326 01:00:53.320 --> 01:00:54.880 You know what you do, You break a block and 1327 01:00:54.920 --> 01:00:57.159 then you roll across the lava you see something cool. 1328 01:00:57.199 --> 01:01:00.920 But that's linear lit more action driven. I think a 1329 01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:03.280 lot of that is what Prime is and what differentiates 1330 01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:04.960 it from I disagree. 1331 01:01:05.199 --> 01:01:07.719 I think that Metro Prime one did a better job 1332 01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:11.880 of at least baking it one did one. You know, 1333 01:01:12.039 --> 01:01:14.119 I don't even care about the comparisons anymore. Metro Prime 1334 01:01:14.119 --> 01:01:16.960 four is a pretty bad game. It doesn't it doesn't 1335 01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:19.519 have like even like comparing it to itself. The gameplay, 1336 01:01:19.599 --> 01:01:23.360 the mechanics are so fun, so good, like moving the 1337 01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:28.000 character around, aiming, shooting, going into morphball, getting on the motorcycle. 1338 01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:30.599 All of that is so it feels so good, and 1339 01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:32.760 then you just the funnest stuff you do with that 1340 01:01:32.840 --> 01:01:34.679 usually is the combat, and there's a lot of that. 1341 01:01:34.719 --> 01:01:36.960 The whole last half of the game, last third at least, 1342 01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:40.960 is an action game, and it's it's it's an okay 1343 01:01:41.079 --> 01:01:45.480 action game. But even then it's like it gets pretty repetitive. Yeah, 1344 01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:48.400 for me, where it breaks down is going into these 1345 01:01:48.519 --> 01:01:52.199 smaller lopped off areas and they are I just don't 1346 01:01:52.239 --> 01:01:55.360 feel like I am this explorer in any way. Even 1347 01:01:55.400 --> 01:01:58.880 when the other games fake that they did better, they 1348 01:01:58.880 --> 01:02:00.920 did a better job at least make it feel like, Okay, 1349 01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:03.719 you found a new home base at this safe spot, 1350 01:02:03.840 --> 01:02:05.480 and now you can go out there and sort of 1351 01:02:05.599 --> 01:02:07.960 poking prod in this area and see what you can find. 1352 01:02:08.280 --> 01:02:10.320 There was at least some of that in the previous 1353 01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:14.360 Prime games. This has none of that to its extreme detriment, 1354 01:02:14.599 --> 01:02:18.159 where it just feels like you are going through the 1355 01:02:18.199 --> 01:02:20.119 stuff that they could get done to get this game 1356 01:02:20.159 --> 01:02:22.960 pushed out the door. That's what it feels like the most. 1357 01:02:22.719 --> 01:02:24.239 And I do think that's where we mean the male 1358 01:02:24.280 --> 01:02:26.000 way to put it that way, because that is what's 1359 01:02:26.039 --> 01:02:27.840 disappointing for me, as well as the fact that it's 1360 01:02:27.880 --> 01:02:30.079 not it's not giving you the vibes as much. It 1361 01:02:30.119 --> 01:02:33.760 feels so like if there is a delineation, it feels 1362 01:02:33.840 --> 01:02:37.400 so Prime and not enough Metroid that I think that's 1363 01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:39.519 where the disappointment for me comes from. 1364 01:02:40.239 --> 01:02:42.360 I guess I just never really thought of Prime the 1365 01:02:42.400 --> 01:02:44.280 way you are, Like, yeah, Prime one, I play through 1366 01:02:44.360 --> 01:02:46.719 multiple times that a game is always so pretty open 1367 01:02:46.760 --> 01:02:49.320 to me, it feels like it does leave room for exploration. 1368 01:02:49.800 --> 01:02:50.760 I just did Prime two, and. 1369 01:02:50.760 --> 01:02:52.840 The same thing I was exploring constantly. I was getting 1370 01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:55.119 lost sometimes I didn't know where to go next, and 1371 01:02:55.159 --> 01:02:57.760 that felt really good. Like Prime three is the one 1372 01:02:58.199 --> 01:03:00.360 that I played half of and I kind of off, 1373 01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:03.079 probably because I wasn't liking those aspects of it. And 1374 01:03:03.119 --> 01:03:04.679 you know, it didn't really occur to me that this 1375 01:03:04.760 --> 01:03:07.920 was going to double down on Prime threes. What I 1376 01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:11.679 kind of thought were perceived as maybe misdirections for the series. 1377 01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:14.599 So yeah, like you know, that aspect of it is 1378 01:03:14.639 --> 01:03:17.320 disappointing to me, and I you know, if if they 1379 01:03:17.320 --> 01:03:19.440 think that's what prime should be, I think that that's 1380 01:03:19.719 --> 01:03:21.639 a deeply flawed way of thinking. 1381 01:03:21.360 --> 01:03:23.800 About the series. I think there's a couple of easy 1382 01:03:23.840 --> 01:03:28.159 cuts so we can keep things moving. Hyper Light Breaker, 1383 01:03:28.400 --> 01:03:30.800 anyone play it. I know that a couple of people 1384 01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:31.920 were fans of Drifter. 1385 01:03:32.159 --> 01:03:34.400 Yeah, I like Drifter, and then I never gotten around 1386 01:03:34.400 --> 01:03:37.639 a Breaker specifically because people were saying it was pretty disappointing. 1387 01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:39.639 So I'm just gonna go ahead and cut that. 1388 01:03:40.559 --> 01:03:44.559 I all cut or offer up Mario Party because even 1389 01:03:44.599 --> 01:03:48.039 as like the resident Mario Party guy, I don't trust 1390 01:03:48.199 --> 01:03:50.719 these like you know, when Nintendo announced this, you know, Jane, 1391 01:03:50.800 --> 01:03:51.280 we played that. 1392 01:03:51.320 --> 01:03:55.039 They couple of fun. It's the one thing they let 1393 01:03:55.119 --> 01:03:55.599 me play with. 1394 01:03:58.760 --> 01:03:58.840 This. 1395 01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:02.639 I didn't love the original Jamboree. And also just when 1396 01:04:02.679 --> 01:04:05.400 they do these convoluted oh Nintendo Switch two Edition plus 1397 01:04:05.440 --> 01:04:08.519 this thing, it's just like, eh, it's rarely substantial, except 1398 01:04:08.599 --> 01:04:10.800 like like Bowser's theory, which is like insanely good. 1399 01:04:10.840 --> 01:04:14.320 But I think we should keep it because we all 1400 01:04:14.360 --> 01:04:16.840 thought we'd be able to play with a camera stuff. 1401 01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:19.440 Yeah, that's so this is where it's at for me, 1402 01:04:19.440 --> 01:04:21.840 where it's like the camera stuff in the main Mario 1403 01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:24.320 Party that they added. That was great, that's fun, and 1404 01:04:24.320 --> 01:04:26.639 that's what I wanted. So it met my expectations on 1405 01:04:26.679 --> 01:04:28.239 that level. And then they were like, we look at 1406 01:04:28.239 --> 01:04:30.480 the Jamboree TV thing. Yeah, and we all got excited 1407 01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:32.599 about the possibility of doing that exact same thing together 1408 01:04:32.679 --> 01:04:33.679 online with each other. 1409 01:04:34.039 --> 01:04:37.920 And that's local only with no obvious good reason whatsoever. 1410 01:04:38.079 --> 01:04:46.679 Indirect contradiction to a support article that online is why 1411 01:04:46.760 --> 01:04:48.119 I think this is just bad. 1412 01:04:48.199 --> 01:04:50.480 I don't even know. This is a disappointment because like 1413 01:04:50.519 --> 01:04:53.159 it didn't ever sound great. Yeah, I kind of I 1414 01:04:53.159 --> 01:04:53.800 get what you're saying. 1415 01:04:54.199 --> 01:04:56.599 Like the original game, then I was excited about it, 1416 01:04:56.599 --> 01:04:58.679 but I was more excited about the cameras in the 1417 01:04:58.719 --> 01:05:00.440 main game, and that works. 1418 01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:01.840 There's not much of a castle. 1419 01:05:01.960 --> 01:05:04.400 I think, of everything on this list, this is the 1420 01:05:04.400 --> 01:05:06.480 one that's most likely to disappoint a child. 1421 01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:07.400 That's true. 1422 01:05:07.480 --> 01:05:11.800 Yeah, but them kids also, they can like a lot of 1423 01:05:11.840 --> 01:05:15.119 kids are gonna be playing see you know, like look 1424 01:05:15.159 --> 01:05:15.800 to your left. 1425 01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:20.119 The kids hate Mario Party anyways, they cannot are you 1426 01:05:20.159 --> 01:05:21.239 fucking talking about now? 1427 01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:23.880 The kids think they like it until they start playing it, 1428 01:05:23.920 --> 01:05:25.159 and then it's like a meltdown. 1429 01:05:25.320 --> 01:05:30.159 They're yes, they absolutely they cannot handle Mario party. They 1430 01:05:30.199 --> 01:05:32.199 always have a bad time because they lose to adults 1431 01:05:32.199 --> 01:05:32.880 and they don't like it. 1432 01:05:33.239 --> 01:05:35.639 This is one of those you know, it was ultimately 1433 01:05:35.679 --> 01:05:37.880 a minor update, Like, yes, it was a paid update. 1434 01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:40.119 That's one of those like add on things that they 1435 01:05:40.199 --> 01:05:42.840 do to like playing to switch to it. 1436 01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:45.280 Was like twenty books. I didn't get excited by this. 1437 01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:47.719 You know, why would there be a chasm? You know, 1438 01:05:47.800 --> 01:05:48.320 like it's. 1439 01:05:48.320 --> 01:05:50.760 Yeah, I think the cast marguments kind of gets me. Yeah, 1440 01:05:50.960 --> 01:05:53.000 sure's you. 1441 01:05:52.920 --> 01:05:55.920 Guys really feel like even though I just dumped on 1442 01:05:56.039 --> 01:05:57.800 much you prime four bit, you think the switch to 1443 01:05:57.920 --> 01:05:58.800 has been disappointed? 1444 01:05:58.920 --> 01:06:01.119 I added to a list and I just I wanted 1445 01:06:01.159 --> 01:06:04.480 to talk through this because I'm pretty disappointed by a 1446 01:06:04.480 --> 01:06:07.400 switch to actually because when I actually step back and 1447 01:06:07.440 --> 01:06:11.639 think of it as the switch to, what really does 1448 01:06:11.639 --> 01:06:16.039 it have? Thank you Dan? Like in terms of you 1449 01:06:16.079 --> 01:06:18.639 think of the two the new system, and I know 1450 01:06:18.679 --> 01:06:21.039 we've moved into a position where like the PS five 1451 01:06:21.159 --> 01:06:24.920 is kind of a PS four pro pro sure now 1452 01:06:25.039 --> 01:06:28.199 right exactly, but you do still get those exclusive experiences 1453 01:06:28.199 --> 01:06:30.960 where like, yeah, you know we're taking evantgely SSD. We 1454 01:06:31.039 --> 01:06:33.400 have such a better processor, we can do things like this. 1455 01:06:33.840 --> 01:06:37.000 You have exclusive experiences that feel like they couldn't be 1456 01:06:37.039 --> 01:06:39.719 done the old one, whereas with this we have Donkey 1457 01:06:39.840 --> 01:06:43.800 Kong Bananza, which literally could be a Switch one game. 1458 01:06:43.840 --> 01:06:46.239 They said it was going to be. They just moved 1459 01:06:46.239 --> 01:06:48.519 it up so I would perform better. And then what 1460 01:06:48.559 --> 01:06:50.920 else do you have on a system? It's kind of 1461 01:06:50.920 --> 01:06:54.480 Switch pro experiences, and there's even ways where it's worse 1462 01:06:54.519 --> 01:06:57.039 than the previous thing. This the screen is so much 1463 01:06:57.039 --> 01:06:59.960 worse than the Switch oled screen. I just I felt 1464 01:07:00.159 --> 01:07:03.920 left down by it because I spent a decent chunk 1465 01:07:03.920 --> 01:07:06.360 could change to get a system as in some ways 1466 01:07:06.480 --> 01:07:09.760 worse than the system that came before it and doesn't 1467 01:07:09.880 --> 01:07:11.920 have a ton of new stuff going forward. Even if 1468 01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:14.880 it is cool to play these games with better performance, 1469 01:07:15.360 --> 01:07:18.119 you know, higher resolutions and stuff, I'm not feeling like 1470 01:07:18.159 --> 01:07:20.039 it's a switch to you know what I mean? 1471 01:07:20.119 --> 01:07:21.920 Yeah, and I understand that, but like the better performance 1472 01:07:21.960 --> 01:07:23.880 thing that is a very big deal to me. Like 1473 01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:26.639 I like, I bet Bonanza on Switch one would have 1474 01:07:26.639 --> 01:07:29.280 been pretty rough for yeah, most of us to even 1475 01:07:29.280 --> 01:07:34.199 be able to handle. I use my switch to every day. Still, 1476 01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:37.079 I don't know, and I even if it is the 1477 01:07:37.119 --> 01:07:38.960 first party of stuff, and yeah, the first party stuff. 1478 01:07:39.079 --> 01:07:41.840 This hasn't been Nintendo's best year. Obviously, does not compare 1479 01:07:41.880 --> 01:07:45.760 it to Switch one's Launcher, which was ridiculous, but Bonanza 1480 01:07:46.119 --> 01:07:49.239 very good, Kirby Air Riders surprisingly good. 1481 01:07:50.199 --> 01:07:53.159 Right, that's not a Switch two game. Oh right, Right, 1482 01:07:53.159 --> 01:07:54.599 we haven't talked about Mario Kart yet. 1483 01:07:54.639 --> 01:07:56.159 But even just like, this is a great place where 1484 01:07:56.159 --> 01:07:59.480 I played Eighties two and Silk Song, and I know 1485 01:07:59.519 --> 01:08:01.119 it was a better experience there than I would have 1486 01:08:01.159 --> 01:08:04.039 had on my Switch one. There's like a general state 1487 01:08:04.039 --> 01:08:05.960 of consoles now we talked about, right, like, the aren't 1488 01:08:05.960 --> 01:08:07.920 as exciting as they used to be, and that is 1489 01:08:08.280 --> 01:08:09.440 a bit of a bummer for sure. 1490 01:08:09.559 --> 01:08:12.280 Yeah, in my head, it's like to talk about my 1491 01:08:12.280 --> 01:08:16.119 personal chasm for this. My expectation was this is basically 1492 01:08:16.159 --> 01:08:17.439 going to be a switch Pro, and it was a 1493 01:08:17.479 --> 01:08:19.640 Switch Pro, and it's a very good switch Pro. I 1494 01:08:19.680 --> 01:08:22.439 think I think you're allowed to have, Like, I think 1495 01:08:22.479 --> 01:08:24.840 the expectation that a follow up console needs to kind 1496 01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:27.560 of meet a higher bar is correct, and it's I 1497 01:08:27.560 --> 01:08:30.119 think unfortunate that we're not there anymore. But again that's 1498 01:08:30.439 --> 01:08:32.319 how I feel, and I've sort of made peace with that. 1499 01:08:32.640 --> 01:08:35.159 I think the performance was such a big thing for me, 1500 01:08:35.239 --> 01:08:37.079 Like it's just got to deliver on that side of things, 1501 01:08:37.119 --> 01:08:39.239 and it's been pretty good in terms of its tech. 1502 01:08:39.760 --> 01:08:41.279 So it's like I'm a little bit in between you 1503 01:08:41.319 --> 01:08:43.600 two guys. I think it's just like they. 1504 01:08:43.439 --> 01:08:46.560 Have such a better processor and stuff, like they could 1505 01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:49.239 do similar things, they just chose not to. I know 1506 01:08:49.319 --> 01:08:52.680 that that's kind of Nintendo's deal, but it feels almost 1507 01:08:52.760 --> 01:08:55.720 more like a like a business thing of like, well, 1508 01:08:55.840 --> 01:08:58.119 why not just keep putting out Switch one version so 1509 01:08:58.199 --> 01:09:00.279 that we can then just have enhanced for like. 1510 01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:04.399 The hardcore that's inherently disappointing. Let I say, I think 1511 01:09:04.760 --> 01:09:06.039 so I'm going to admit this. I think I'm the 1512 01:09:06.039 --> 01:09:09.960 biggest Switch one hater in the room. Wow. Wow. I 1513 01:09:10.039 --> 01:09:12.720 did not enjoy that system. It made me mad. It 1514 01:09:12.800 --> 01:09:14.560 made me mad to hold it and use it. I 1515 01:09:14.560 --> 01:09:15.359 didn't like how the. 1516 01:09:15.319 --> 01:09:20.960 Games, Yeah, it made me mad, it really did, especially 1517 01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:22.079 like I love Pokemon games. 1518 01:09:22.079 --> 01:09:23.239 It's the only place to play them. 1519 01:09:23.359 --> 01:09:26.920 They played like dog shit and Nintendo maybe like piracy 1520 01:09:26.920 --> 01:09:28.920 wouldn't have been such an issue last generation if you 1521 01:09:28.960 --> 01:09:32.760 made good hardware and they did the Switch to I 1522 01:09:32.920 --> 01:09:35.119 like it. I like playing it. Finally, I like going 1523 01:09:35.119 --> 01:09:36.600 and playing my old games that I bought, and they 1524 01:09:36.640 --> 01:09:38.720 finally like play the way they feel like they're supposed 1525 01:09:38.800 --> 01:09:39.399 to play. 1526 01:09:39.720 --> 01:09:41.960 Oh, this does feel like exactly what happened here is 1527 01:09:42.079 --> 01:09:44.680 they made a system to address people like you, yes, 1528 01:09:44.760 --> 01:09:47.079 and people like Sean who loves the Switch and was like, 1529 01:09:47.119 --> 01:09:48.239 I want to feel that way again. 1530 01:09:48.600 --> 01:09:50.359 They didn't have anything for that. Yeah. I was listening 1531 01:09:50.439 --> 01:09:52.960 to Sean talk about the Switch one like and I 1532 01:09:53.000 --> 01:09:57.239 was like, wow, we're different customers. So they nailed my 1533 01:09:57.279 --> 01:10:00.399 demographic with the Switch too. I'm very happy with I. 1534 01:10:00.399 --> 01:10:01.920 Guess if where we're saying is that I'm the only 1535 01:10:01.960 --> 01:10:04.760 one who really was disappointed, then yeah, I guess. 1536 01:10:05.039 --> 01:10:08.760 I definitely from the beginning was like, this thing's just fine. 1537 01:10:09.199 --> 01:10:11.920 Yeah, and I think that you guys are not in 1538 01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:14.840 any way wrong. No, no, no, I get it. They should 1539 01:10:14.880 --> 01:10:15.680 have made it more exciting. 1540 01:10:16.079 --> 01:10:17.800 Yeah. I kept saying, there's oh, there's nothing to play 1541 01:10:17.800 --> 01:10:19.039 on this, there's just nothing to play on this. 1542 01:10:20.119 --> 01:10:26.520 Play Warrior World on it now? Yeahmulations at great. 1543 01:10:28.159 --> 01:10:32.000 Yeah that's pretty good and awesome. Right now. Brain is broken, 1544 01:10:32.319 --> 01:10:34.399 But I'm aligned with you. Greb that I feel like 1545 01:10:34.479 --> 01:10:36.840 it is just it feels like a pro And I 1546 01:10:36.880 --> 01:10:38.880 think that's just what I've been thinking of this whole time. 1547 01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:40.840 And I think the reality is and that not that 1548 01:10:40.840 --> 01:10:42.880 that's a matter for the category, And the reality is 1549 01:10:42.920 --> 01:10:44.560 this was the switch Pro and they just sort of 1550 01:10:44.560 --> 01:10:45.520 spruced it up over time. 1551 01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:47.359 The expensive switch pro. 1552 01:10:47.479 --> 01:10:49.399 Yea, that's why they did it, so they could charge 1553 01:10:49.399 --> 01:10:51.520 more money for it. Put the two on it. I'm 1554 01:10:51.560 --> 01:10:55.439 cutting it FBC firebreak. I had fun when I was 1555 01:10:55.479 --> 01:10:57.439 playing with you guys. I don't think it was the 1556 01:10:57.479 --> 01:10:59.199 biggest disappointment of the year. 1557 01:10:59.479 --> 01:11:00.880 I didn't have fun, but I don't know how much 1558 01:11:00.920 --> 01:11:01.960 fun I was expecting to have. 1559 01:11:02.880 --> 01:11:05.279 It's a miss, for sure. It's a miss. Yeah, it's 1560 01:11:05.359 --> 01:11:08.479 like a whiff for sure. But that sticky note monster, 1561 01:11:08.560 --> 01:11:10.439 we fought that was cool. There were ideas. 1562 01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:12.520 Some of the ideas were too much, like I can't 1563 01:11:12.560 --> 01:11:14.800 belily how complicated they made. Some of the objectives like 1564 01:11:14.840 --> 01:11:17.239 let's forget works because like fight the zombies. 1565 01:11:17.479 --> 01:11:18.439 Yeah, people get that. 1566 01:11:18.640 --> 01:11:20.560 This is like collect the notes and then go to 1567 01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:23.760 the furnace room and put the canisters onto the zip 1568 01:11:23.800 --> 01:11:26.039 line and then shoot them down there. It was kind 1569 01:11:26.039 --> 01:11:28.119 of good into the thing. 1570 01:11:28.239 --> 01:11:30.239 Was too much. I don't think we would have known 1571 01:11:30.359 --> 01:11:33.439 to do all of that. I hadn't already played that, right, 1572 01:11:33.640 --> 01:11:34.399 Yeah that's what it was. 1573 01:11:34.720 --> 01:11:37.600 Yeah, it just was confusing, and there's like it wasn't fun. 1574 01:11:37.640 --> 01:11:38.520 When enemies showed up. 1575 01:11:38.520 --> 01:11:40.560 I was like, oh, right, there's another asshole with a 1576 01:11:40.600 --> 01:11:41.479 flamethrower here. 1577 01:11:41.600 --> 01:11:41.880 Now. 1578 01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:47.520 I this this studio has such a strong design vision 1579 01:11:48.319 --> 01:11:51.880 and the vibe and the look of their games is 1580 01:11:51.920 --> 01:11:55.439 like amazing, and then they made this and it just 1581 01:11:55.479 --> 01:12:00.359 falls so short of control in Alan Wake, and yeah, 1582 01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:02.840 it's super disappointed me. I I was like, I want 1583 01:12:02.880 --> 01:12:04.279 this to be the next game I'm playing with my 1584 01:12:04.279 --> 01:12:04.960 friends every week. 1585 01:12:05.239 --> 01:12:06.840 It felt like a weird pivot, right. 1586 01:12:06.720 --> 01:12:09.000 Yeah, And it just didn't happen, And it did feel 1587 01:12:09.039 --> 01:12:11.880 like a lazy thing they were doing between other things. 1588 01:12:11.960 --> 01:12:13.319 I think that's what it like for me. It's like, 1589 01:12:13.439 --> 01:12:14.560 why it's not so disappointed. 1590 01:12:14.600 --> 01:12:16.680 It's like this was a new team, or it was 1591 01:12:16.760 --> 01:12:19.319 a new team created within the team, new director, and 1592 01:12:19.359 --> 01:12:21.760 it was like them trying something else off to the side. 1593 01:12:21.840 --> 01:12:23.800 So it's like Remedy is still over there making the 1594 01:12:23.840 --> 01:12:25.560 Remedy games, and then they're going to try some new 1595 01:12:25.560 --> 01:12:27.520 stuff over here. I mean it's like, okay, I can 1596 01:12:27.560 --> 01:12:30.039 forgive and forget that four. 1597 01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:31.720 Loop will be here before you know it everyone. And 1598 01:12:31.760 --> 01:12:34.960 that's right. The four player four loop is a programming 1599 01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:36.840 thing where I'm just saying, oh, it's clever, ye. 1600 01:12:38.439 --> 01:12:39.399 G on the list. 1601 01:12:39.600 --> 01:12:42.640 Are I don't know, maybe I misunderstood the assignment. 1602 01:12:43.800 --> 01:12:46.960 I mean, I like, you're right, five G's not as bad. 1603 01:12:47.239 --> 01:12:50.640 It's not. I mean it's not selling network right, No, 1604 01:12:50.760 --> 01:12:53.880 it's technology. I'm on T Mobile and it's not been 1605 01:12:53.880 --> 01:12:55.319 that bad. Yeah. I was gonna say, do you get 1606 01:12:55.399 --> 01:12:56.479 ultra wide band because. 1607 01:12:56.960 --> 01:12:59.600 All the time I think, yeah, I'm just constantly disappointed 1608 01:12:59.600 --> 01:12:59.680 with it. 1609 01:12:59.760 --> 01:13:01.439 I guess is really strong in my home. 1610 01:13:01.880 --> 01:13:04.119 For me, it's like, oh, it's working the way that 1611 01:13:04.159 --> 01:13:05.760 it was actually promised to a certain. 1612 01:13:05.920 --> 01:13:08.760 Yeah, maybe it's regional. I feel like because I went 1613 01:13:08.800 --> 01:13:13.399 through an internet issue this year, did Chuck have something 1614 01:13:13.399 --> 01:13:14.079 to do with it? 1615 01:13:14.600 --> 01:13:18.479 Jerry Still, I'm sorry for hearing your complaints and trying 1616 01:13:18.520 --> 01:13:20.640 to help you. I will do it, like I said, 1617 01:13:20.720 --> 01:13:26.279 Jerry Still, he's saying that Chuck was the disappointed I 1618 01:13:26.279 --> 01:13:28.680 was telling you back, you know, get the tinfoil, put 1619 01:13:28.720 --> 01:13:30.960 it on your head. Protect yourself from you. 1620 01:13:31.159 --> 01:13:34.800 It didn't work, no, And I think it just made 1621 01:13:34.800 --> 01:13:38.039 me sort of like relitigate, like how disappointed I am 1622 01:13:38.119 --> 01:13:40.920 and stuff like that, because I wanted to seek out 1623 01:13:41.199 --> 01:13:43.840 five G as a home internet solution and it just 1624 01:13:43.960 --> 01:13:48.199 wasn't cutting it. And I'm just like, nothing works, nothing works. 1625 01:13:48.239 --> 01:13:49.680 I'm not impressed with anything. 1626 01:13:50.479 --> 01:13:51.680 Five G is like sort of a. 1627 01:13:53.479 --> 01:13:56.720 Idol for all of technology being disappointed right now, Like 1628 01:13:56.800 --> 01:13:59.520 I could become. 1629 01:13:59.279 --> 01:14:01.840 Like the sort of punch line slash scapegoat for all 1630 01:14:01.840 --> 01:14:03.920 these things. But I'm just like I you know, when 1631 01:14:03.960 --> 01:14:06.199 I was young and you have these like fantasies of 1632 01:14:06.239 --> 01:14:09.199 the future where you're like, oh, man, it doesn't matter 1633 01:14:09.239 --> 01:14:10.840 because all this ship's going to be like this. 1634 01:14:10.920 --> 01:14:12.920 Two years ago when it's like man, the new iPhone's 1635 01:14:12.920 --> 01:14:14.600 got all this new stuff in it, and now it's 1636 01:14:14.600 --> 01:14:18.239 just like there's nothing, and I. 1637 01:14:16.920 --> 01:14:21.239 I don't know, like I'm just consistently unimpressed with with 1638 01:14:21.319 --> 01:14:23.239 that kind of because like I was like, oh, you 1639 01:14:23.239 --> 01:14:25.239 know what, I can't I can't have a fiber solution 1640 01:14:25.279 --> 01:14:28.399 where I live just because of reasons, and five G 1641 01:14:28.560 --> 01:14:31.720 would work for what we do right for our our 1642 01:14:31.800 --> 01:14:34.399 kind of work. When it's not there it's just not. 1643 01:14:34.439 --> 01:14:36.359 Maybe that's your disappointment is where you live. 1644 01:14:36.399 --> 01:14:37.439 Maybe it's New Jersey. 1645 01:14:37.640 --> 01:14:43.520 No, it's not even that. It's not New Jersey. It's 1646 01:14:43.560 --> 01:14:47.159 my street, if you can believe it. But yeah, I 1647 01:14:47.319 --> 01:14:49.760 just it's yeah, I just I'm I want to be 1648 01:14:49.800 --> 01:14:51.479 impressed by something and I've just not been. 1649 01:14:51.439 --> 01:14:53.199 Well, you know what, let's keep it on, you could 1650 01:14:53.199 --> 01:14:56.159 take it off. It's just a do you want to 1651 01:14:56.279 --> 01:14:59.000 lock anything? Because nothing has been bolded. We cross out 1652 01:14:59.039 --> 01:15:02.960 fire brick see Dragon Drive. Let's not hold anything yet. 1653 01:15:03.479 --> 01:15:04.600 Dragon Drive should probably go. 1654 01:15:04.800 --> 01:15:07.359 I want to take off everybody's golf because it's like 1655 01:15:07.479 --> 01:15:10.039 that game is not good. But also it's not like 1656 01:15:10.079 --> 01:15:11.960 we were all like, oh, circle the date on your calendar. 1657 01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:13.680 It's the hot Shots, Like I like hot Shots. 1658 01:15:13.760 --> 01:15:15.239 It's a good golf game, and we knew we knew 1659 01:15:15.239 --> 01:15:16.960 it was a new developer, so we kind of had 1660 01:15:16.960 --> 01:15:18.720 a pretty good idea that it wasn't going to be 1661 01:15:18.720 --> 01:15:19.279 what it should be. 1662 01:15:19.439 --> 01:15:20.760 Yeah, So it's not like it came out and we 1663 01:15:20.760 --> 01:15:22.079 were like oh no, it's like we did a stream 1664 01:15:22.079 --> 01:15:23.520 and we're like, man, this isn't that great, you know. 1665 01:15:23.800 --> 01:15:26.079 Mike Manatti, can you tell me a story about Monster 1666 01:15:26.159 --> 01:15:26.800 Hunter Wilds. 1667 01:15:26.880 --> 01:15:29.600 Well, it's funny going into this year, I believe I 1668 01:15:29.600 --> 01:15:32.279 said my two most anticipated games were Metroit. 1669 01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:35.039 Prime four and Monster Hunter. I'm sorry. 1670 01:15:35.279 --> 01:15:36.760 It turns out like this has been one of my 1671 01:15:36.760 --> 01:15:38.479 favorite years. Like so many games I love, I just 1672 01:15:38.479 --> 01:15:39.840 thought the ones I thought they would be. 1673 01:15:40.199 --> 01:15:40.840 I'll start world. 1674 01:15:40.920 --> 01:15:42.640 This is weird because it like it does leave a 1675 01:15:42.680 --> 01:15:46.000 good impression because like it seems really neat at first, 1676 01:15:46.039 --> 01:15:49.520 these giant monsters, you're fighting them, there's all these systems, 1677 01:15:49.560 --> 01:15:52.039 you're playing with your friends in this world is so big. 1678 01:15:53.159 --> 01:15:56.319 But then there's like all these weird problems, like that 1679 01:15:56.600 --> 01:16:00.439 their engine, the Ari engine, just is running really poorly 1680 01:16:00.520 --> 01:16:03.319 with this game. Even like a pretty nice PC. This 1681 01:16:03.439 --> 01:16:06.079 game just felt so heavy. It felt like it was 1682 01:16:06.079 --> 01:16:09.279 wearing cement shoes at all times. Just it's hitching and 1683 01:16:09.359 --> 01:16:13.680 just not being reliable. And then you know, and I know, 1684 01:16:13.760 --> 01:16:15.439 like the big Monster Hunter fans will be like, well, 1685 01:16:15.439 --> 01:16:17.840 because you know, if the post game is the real game, Well, 1686 01:16:17.880 --> 01:16:19.920 I still have to play through this campaign for hours, 1687 01:16:20.199 --> 01:16:24.560 and they made it as uninteresting as possible, just super 1688 01:16:24.640 --> 01:16:27.880 easy vote for a bunch of story and characters like 1689 01:16:28.039 --> 01:16:30.600 they didn't really care about or want to engage with 1690 01:16:30.640 --> 01:16:34.720 that much zero Room four Exploration are really interacting with 1691 01:16:34.760 --> 01:16:37.800 that open world that they created. Yeah, no skimble Shanks, 1692 01:16:37.880 --> 01:16:40.199 no scamble Shanks, no rum Tum tunguer. 1693 01:16:43.159 --> 01:16:45.439 It just was like it was dragging me, like while 1694 01:16:45.439 --> 01:16:46.880 I was trying to, like I really wanted to get 1695 01:16:46.880 --> 01:16:49.520 into it engagement, Like you're talking about slowing me down for. 1696 01:16:49.600 --> 01:16:52.359 Yeah, to both of Mike's points, the big ones there, 1697 01:16:52.600 --> 01:16:57.239 like you can't expect someone to anytime you give someone 1698 01:16:57.239 --> 01:16:58.840 the argument, oh it gets so good after you're like 1699 01:16:58.880 --> 01:17:01.359 fifty hours. Now, I can never be the argument because 1700 01:17:01.399 --> 01:17:04.920 most people are going to put in like five hours 1701 01:17:04.960 --> 01:17:06.960 maybe and then decide if they like it or not, 1702 01:17:07.239 --> 01:17:09.279 and then really they're gonna play the main story. Like 1703 01:17:09.520 --> 01:17:12.359 I know, Master Hunter's identity is that you play for 1704 01:17:12.479 --> 01:17:15.359 hundreds of hours and it's almost an MMO style experience 1705 01:17:15.399 --> 01:17:17.520 you hop on with your friends and stuff. That's not 1706 01:17:17.800 --> 01:17:20.479 what most people playing the game are going to want 1707 01:17:20.520 --> 01:17:22.640 of it, and even me, I've played plenty of Monster 1708 01:17:22.720 --> 01:17:24.760 Hunter games, that's not what I want of it, Like 1709 01:17:24.800 --> 01:17:27.920 I've there are better Monster Hunter campaigns, and while this 1710 01:17:28.000 --> 01:17:32.680 is a fun action game, I feel it's they they've 1711 01:17:32.720 --> 01:17:35.399 reached the point where so much has changed that just 1712 01:17:35.439 --> 01:17:38.239 doesn't feel very Master Hunter to me anymore. They hand 1713 01:17:38.239 --> 01:17:41.560 you so much stuff. Well, the were being thrown around 1714 01:17:41.600 --> 01:17:43.560 this year was friction with it, and I've always thought 1715 01:17:43.560 --> 01:17:45.720 tension is the better word to scribboy last. 1716 01:17:45.760 --> 01:17:47.159 Yeah, because it's so safe. 1717 01:17:47.239 --> 01:17:49.720 You never feel like you're in danger in the way 1718 01:17:49.760 --> 01:17:53.640 that you should with a hunting game. And also yeah, 1719 01:17:53.680 --> 01:17:56.479 with the performance, Like I'm like, man, I know I 1720 01:17:56.520 --> 01:17:58.840 got this was back when I head a thirty sixty 1721 01:17:58.880 --> 01:18:01.199 TI in my machineam. I know it's a lower end, 1722 01:18:01.680 --> 01:18:06.319 slightly older card, but even on low settings like seven 1723 01:18:06.479 --> 01:18:11.600 twenty P, I'm struggling to get like forty to fifty fps. Like, man, 1724 01:18:12.079 --> 01:18:14.760 this engine was not designed to have games like this. 1725 01:18:15.000 --> 01:18:17.119 I was really excited when I went to Japan last 1726 01:18:17.199 --> 01:18:19.520 year to check this out. But I did notice as 1727 01:18:19.640 --> 01:18:23.000 I was like playing through the slice of the game 1728 01:18:23.039 --> 01:18:26.319 that they made for me, that I blasted straight through it, 1729 01:18:26.920 --> 01:18:29.399 and I thought like, oh, I don't think I'm like 1730 01:18:29.520 --> 01:18:33.560 that good at games, and specifically Monster Hunter. I've kind 1731 01:18:33.560 --> 01:18:37.399 of like it's been a slog sometimes for me. And 1732 01:18:37.439 --> 01:18:39.520 then they looked at me and we're like, you could 1733 01:18:39.800 --> 01:18:41.680 you could run it back if you want, you want 1734 01:18:41.680 --> 01:18:44.159 to do it again, you could do it again. And 1735 01:18:44.199 --> 01:18:46.000 then I thought like, oh, maybe they tuned it down 1736 01:18:46.039 --> 01:18:47.439 because you know games journalists. 1737 01:18:47.560 --> 01:18:49.199 Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. 1738 01:18:49.279 --> 01:18:51.760 Yeah, so that you know, they want us to see 1739 01:18:51.760 --> 01:18:54.239 as much as possible. And then when the game finally 1740 01:18:54.239 --> 01:18:56.039 came out, I assumed like, Okay, there's gonna be a 1741 01:18:56.079 --> 01:18:59.560 little bit tougher, and then I breezed through that initial 1742 01:18:59.560 --> 01:19:02.840 first cup hours like it was nothing. And you're Sean, 1743 01:19:02.840 --> 01:19:05.000 You're right. I think when I think of Monster Hunter, 1744 01:19:05.039 --> 01:19:08.760 I think of tension, and I think that was sorely 1745 01:19:08.960 --> 01:19:12.560 missing in this game. I still think it's very pretty 1746 01:19:12.560 --> 01:19:14.840 when it is running well. I do like the design 1747 01:19:14.840 --> 01:19:19.359 and some of the newer monsters, but after how Monster 1748 01:19:19.399 --> 01:19:23.520 Hunter World set the world on fire, I fully wanted 1749 01:19:23.520 --> 01:19:25.439 this to be a game that I will check out 1750 01:19:25.439 --> 01:19:28.119 with friends. I wanted to become the Monster Hunter sicco 1751 01:19:29.119 --> 01:19:32.039 that would just play this game like it was an MMO. 1752 01:19:32.279 --> 01:19:35.920 But that never happened because it's it just I didn't 1753 01:19:35.920 --> 01:19:37.199 care about the story. 1754 01:19:36.960 --> 01:19:39.560 Right, And it's so clear that they want you to 1755 01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:42.000 get to the post game because that's what everyone talks 1756 01:19:42.079 --> 01:19:44.680 up about Monster Hunter. But I don't think making the 1757 01:19:44.800 --> 01:19:47.119 main story so easy that you breathe through it is 1758 01:19:47.159 --> 01:19:50.039 the way to go. I think make a really interesting 1759 01:19:50.560 --> 01:19:52.840 main story so that people get hooked and then they 1760 01:19:52.880 --> 01:19:54.880 stick around for the post game hunts. 1761 01:19:54.800 --> 01:19:56.920 Or just make the main game more like the postgame 1762 01:19:56.960 --> 01:19:58.680 then if that's what you wanted, I felt like, right, 1763 01:19:58.800 --> 01:20:00.840 did that a little bit? Is mostly going to the 1764 01:20:00.920 --> 01:20:03.119 hunting board and picking hunts, Like that's that's what I 1765 01:20:03.159 --> 01:20:04.600 want to do, almost from the get go. 1766 01:20:04.720 --> 01:20:08.079 Yeah, I think Master was just on a natural upward trajectory. 1767 01:20:08.079 --> 01:20:10.600 I don't think they need to try to escalate that. 1768 01:20:10.840 --> 01:20:13.239 Yeah, they tried like that, that's my understanding race that 1769 01:20:13.279 --> 01:20:15.000 they tried to make it more appealing to a broader 1770 01:20:15.039 --> 01:20:18.239 audience and shaped off some of that tension. Something Edges 1771 01:20:18.479 --> 01:20:20.560 does that does that carry over to the post game 1772 01:20:20.600 --> 01:20:23.159 at all? Like is the post game like immaculate as 1773 01:20:23.159 --> 01:20:24.800 always or is even that. 1774 01:20:24.720 --> 01:20:28.039 Because Christian at the Place game he defends it a lot, 1775 01:20:28.039 --> 01:20:30.079 but I think he said people are often unhappy with 1776 01:20:30.079 --> 01:20:31.640 the post game, mostly because. 1777 01:20:31.640 --> 01:20:33.159 Not enough to do content right. 1778 01:20:33.680 --> 01:20:35.640 All the Monster Hunter fans I know are like, yeah, 1779 01:20:35.880 --> 01:20:38.560 it's still good, but like I'd honestly rather go back 1780 01:20:38.560 --> 01:20:39.920 and do hunts and one of the older ones because 1781 01:20:40.279 --> 01:20:41.319 those hunts are still good. 1782 01:20:41.479 --> 01:20:45.520 Rise has definitely picked up in popularity because our wild's 1783 01:20:45.520 --> 01:20:46.920 disappointed so many generations. 1784 01:20:46.960 --> 01:20:50.960 Ultimate is like people are rediscovering that game because they're like, oh, 1785 01:20:51.079 --> 01:20:53.560 this is the sickost stuff and like I want that 1786 01:20:53.560 --> 01:20:54.880 more hardcore master experience. 1787 01:20:54.920 --> 01:20:55.840 They get a bit more physical. 1788 01:20:56.119 --> 01:20:58.319 I think that they are streamlining the wrong things because 1789 01:20:58.319 --> 01:21:01.279 it's still a big pain to like figure out exactly 1790 01:21:01.279 --> 01:21:05.000 how to put my friends every time right right, and 1791 01:21:05.000 --> 01:21:06.920 like it's just like even some of the menus and 1792 01:21:07.039 --> 01:21:10.560 systems like the UI, like streamind some of this stuff 1793 01:21:10.560 --> 01:21:12.039 because this stuff still kind of sucks. 1794 01:21:12.319 --> 01:21:17.000 Yeah, like fighting monsters that part felt good. Yeah, uh, 1795 01:21:17.800 --> 01:21:20.640 I guess it should stick around. Let's stick it around. 1796 01:21:20.880 --> 01:21:22.680 We are at four, right, so we don't have to 1797 01:21:22.680 --> 01:21:24.720 cut one, and we haven't talked about and we haven't 1798 01:21:24.720 --> 01:21:25.359 talked about Mario. 1799 01:21:25.399 --> 01:21:27.880 Can I suggest that we cut the Windows Full Screen 1800 01:21:27.880 --> 01:21:29.920 Experience because I expected the point? 1801 01:21:30.520 --> 01:21:31.319 No, because I didn't. 1802 01:21:31.439 --> 01:21:34.760 I mean I was, they just the way they talked 1803 01:21:34.760 --> 01:21:38.760 about it, like when I complained early on about like okay, 1804 01:21:38.800 --> 01:21:41.119 I'm having my Steam Deck, let's try this Roger ally 1805 01:21:41.960 --> 01:21:44.520 and getting in the Windows Experience and being like, oh 1806 01:21:44.520 --> 01:21:46.000 my god, this is so miserable. Having to go to 1807 01:21:46.079 --> 01:21:47.800 these three different apps just to update this thing so 1808 01:21:47.840 --> 01:21:50.680 I could play a game, and having to enter a 1809 01:21:50.720 --> 01:21:53.439 password and the keyboard disappearing and having to find some 1810 01:21:53.520 --> 01:21:56.560 work round the Windows accessibility settings to bring up the 1811 01:21:56.680 --> 01:21:59.680 other full screen keyboard. There's multiple full screen keyboards and 1812 01:21:59.720 --> 01:22:02.279 Windows and it's like this is really bad. And then 1813 01:22:02.319 --> 01:22:04.199 here hearing Phil Spencer come out and being like we 1814 01:22:04.279 --> 01:22:05.880 know and we're doing something about it. 1815 01:22:06.239 --> 01:22:09.359 Cool and just yeah yeah and be like okay, so 1816 01:22:09.560 --> 01:22:10.079 they get it. 1817 01:22:10.119 --> 01:22:13.119 They know what they are hearing me bitch about this thing, 1818 01:22:13.119 --> 01:22:16.319 and they're gonna do something about it and uh and 1819 01:22:16.399 --> 01:22:17.760 having them come out and be like this is what 1820 01:22:17.760 --> 01:22:21.039 we're doing and having all of the same problems. Yeah, 1821 01:22:21.199 --> 01:22:23.600 all of the same problems are still there. So it's like, 1822 01:22:23.640 --> 01:22:25.239 what do they do? They just sopped a new code 1823 01:22:25.279 --> 01:22:29.000 of paint on this thing and called it a day. 1824 01:22:29.119 --> 01:22:31.840 It's so extremely frustrating to me. 1825 01:22:32.640 --> 01:22:34.720 Jan can you change something for me? Because I was like, 1826 01:22:35.119 --> 01:22:37.359 it is technically just called false screening experience, but I 1827 01:22:37.359 --> 01:22:39.880 was like, okay, what's now and do they attach to it? 1828 01:22:39.920 --> 01:22:42.239 Is the Xbox false screen sperience, and I'm like, okay, 1829 01:22:42.279 --> 01:22:46.199 so that makes it even that really solidifies what's disappointing 1830 01:22:46.199 --> 01:22:48.760 about for me and Grubb, because this is like if 1831 01:22:48.760 --> 01:22:51.680 we're saying the Xbox Alix is good hardware, which is it? 1832 01:22:51.720 --> 01:22:54.520 Which it is because it's just an ally x Yeah, 1833 01:22:54.560 --> 01:22:57.279 basically just beefed up. So that makes sense. But this 1834 01:22:57.520 --> 01:22:59.720 is the thing that they're pointing to in saying and 1835 01:22:59.800 --> 01:23:02.640 this is why this is an Xbox and the l 1836 01:23:02.680 --> 01:23:05.760 i X is not an Xbox. But they were saying like, 1837 01:23:05.800 --> 01:23:07.640 because of this, it's going to at least feel like 1838 01:23:07.720 --> 01:23:09.840 it is going to be part of the ecosystem, and 1839 01:23:09.880 --> 01:23:11.199 they just dropped the ball so hard. 1840 01:23:11.399 --> 01:23:13.359 I got a good idea for discipline of the year. 1841 01:23:13.760 --> 01:23:15.239 Why don't you just put Xbox? 1842 01:23:16.760 --> 01:23:19.199 Actually, yeah, I mean that's true too, but I think 1843 01:23:19.920 --> 01:23:22.199 but at least that all that, But that's just been 1844 01:23:22.239 --> 01:23:28.680 a chronic disappointment, especially the Yeah, the thing that really 1845 01:23:28.800 --> 01:23:33.359 just kills me, like the full screen. That whole idea 1846 01:23:33.479 --> 01:23:36.880 is like you are still having to like whack a 1847 01:23:36.960 --> 01:23:40.279 mole with Windows trying to make its way back into 1848 01:23:40.399 --> 01:23:44.359 your field of vision, Like it just they just can't 1849 01:23:44.680 --> 01:23:50.520 help themselves, Like Windows is too aggressive and too intrusive. 1850 01:23:51.600 --> 01:23:54.840 They unless they build an OS from the ground up, 1851 01:23:55.199 --> 01:23:55.960 even just like. 1852 01:23:55.960 --> 01:23:57.479 It comes with it comes with teams. 1853 01:23:57.560 --> 01:24:03.079 Preenstall say, I ran all the bloat where you know, 1854 01:24:03.439 --> 01:24:07.039 uh you know, you know, I ran how to run 1855 01:24:07.079 --> 01:24:08.680 all the things I usually run on a new PC 1856 01:24:08.840 --> 01:24:11.760 on this thing, it's it's insane, Like, oh, do you 1857 01:24:11.800 --> 01:24:15.359 want copilot to you know, piss you off? No, I don't, 1858 01:24:16.600 --> 01:24:18.560 it's in It's it's mind blowing. 1859 01:24:18.600 --> 01:24:19.640 They have co pilot for gaming. 1860 01:24:19.680 --> 01:24:21.760 Now, that's a good example of why, like, if we 1861 01:24:21.800 --> 01:24:24.920 went broader, I would actually say, like Windows is a disappointment, 1862 01:24:24.960 --> 01:24:27.680 but it's also Windows has been disappointing for a long 1863 01:24:27.720 --> 01:24:30.600 time Microsoft, I guess, but yeah, exactly, and those are 1864 01:24:30.600 --> 01:24:33.359 both like I feel so general, I think this is 1865 01:24:33.359 --> 01:24:33.880 a good space. 1866 01:24:33.920 --> 01:24:35.960 I like I like X full screen experience down there. 1867 01:24:35.960 --> 01:24:39.239 All right, Mario Kart World, let's talk about this one, 1868 01:24:39.840 --> 01:24:42.439 because yeah, we have the follow up to Mario Kart 1869 01:24:42.439 --> 01:24:45.880 A Deluxe specifically was always going to be an impossible task. 1870 01:24:46.319 --> 01:24:49.479 So maybe it's not actually as disappointing, but I do 1871 01:24:49.520 --> 01:24:52.479 think it is just a letdown in general, because so 1872 01:24:52.600 --> 01:24:56.079 many things about this game are find not even bad, 1873 01:24:56.239 --> 01:25:00.720 just they're so okay, fine, and some people say just 1874 01:25:00.720 --> 01:25:03.560 straight up bad. Like the way they integrated the courses together. 1875 01:25:03.840 --> 01:25:06.399 The road trip thing doesn't really work a lot of 1876 01:25:06.399 --> 01:25:08.520 the time. It just feels like you're driving on a 1877 01:25:09.000 --> 01:25:12.840 wide lane highways with like occasional obstacles in the games, 1878 01:25:12.960 --> 01:25:15.680 it's most boring. Yeah, exactly. And while that's great for 1879 01:25:15.880 --> 01:25:18.920 the Knockout Tour, like Dan actually great in a previous discussion, 1880 01:25:19.640 --> 01:25:22.239 it feels like the entire game is based around Knockout 1881 01:25:22.239 --> 01:25:25.680 Tour and not Mario Kart as we expected. And that's 1882 01:25:25.760 --> 01:25:27.520 that's why I was disappointing for me at least. 1883 01:25:27.560 --> 01:25:29.439 Yeah, it's like and I know, I'm like not the 1884 01:25:29.479 --> 01:25:32.920 biggest Mario Kart guy. Anyways, it's like most of the game, 1885 01:25:33.000 --> 01:25:34.800 My god, this is fine. This is what I usually 1886 01:25:34.800 --> 01:25:37.239 get out of Mario Kart. But yeah, like doing the 1887 01:25:37.239 --> 01:25:39.279 open world stuff with the free roaming or doing it 1888 01:25:39.319 --> 01:25:41.960 for the Knockout Tour, it makes sense. The weird way 1889 01:25:42.000 --> 01:25:44.680 they just kind of absolutely hamphisted it into the actual 1890 01:25:44.800 --> 01:25:47.439 circuits or race like it feels like one you like, 1891 01:25:47.560 --> 01:25:50.600 you do one race, then you travel to another course 1892 01:25:50.640 --> 01:25:52.880 doing nothing, and then you do just one lap. Then 1893 01:25:52.960 --> 01:25:54.760 it's crazy, Like, no, I want to be in the 1894 01:25:54.880 --> 01:25:58.520 interesting actual race track that's highly themed and with interesting 1895 01:25:58.560 --> 01:25:59.319 things happening. 1896 01:26:00.039 --> 01:26:01.960 That's such a good first impression too. That first track 1897 01:26:01.960 --> 01:26:03.960 you play, it's like, okay, three laps and then we're 1898 01:26:04.000 --> 01:26:07.399 gonna do like a transitional one to another track, and 1899 01:26:07.439 --> 01:26:10.279 then maybe we'll do that again. And no, the majority 1900 01:26:10.359 --> 01:26:12.119 of is you play on like one track and then 1901 01:26:12.119 --> 01:26:14.600 you do a lot of linear going as straight line 1902 01:26:14.640 --> 01:26:15.399 with a couple of curves. 1903 01:26:15.520 --> 01:26:17.520 Yeah, Like at that revealment in New York and they 1904 01:26:17.520 --> 01:26:18.640 showed I guess it was that direct. 1905 01:26:18.640 --> 01:26:20.199 It was the big switch to revealed direct. 1906 01:26:20.359 --> 01:26:22.359 They showed that trailer and I was like, oh my god, 1907 01:26:22.399 --> 01:26:23.760 this is like I didn't know what they could do 1908 01:26:23.800 --> 01:26:25.920 to make Deluxe, you know, an eight bigger and better, 1909 01:26:25.960 --> 01:26:28.600 and like this is everything, all these characters, these costumes, 1910 01:26:28.600 --> 01:26:30.640 you must have the open the promise of an open 1911 01:26:30.680 --> 01:26:34.039 world and everything like now paradise, but Mario karts exactly, 1912 01:26:34.079 --> 01:26:37.000 and like, to be fair, I still really like Mario 1913 01:26:37.039 --> 01:26:39.520 Kart World. I think it is a very good cart racer. 1914 01:26:39.920 --> 01:26:43.680 But yeah, compared to eight Deluxe, and if we're talking disappointment, 1915 01:26:43.720 --> 01:26:45.880 that chasm. I saw that trailer, and I was like, 1916 01:26:45.920 --> 01:26:47.920 oh my god, this just seems like the ultimate Mario 1917 01:26:48.000 --> 01:26:50.520 Kart experience. Yeah, and what I got was a good 1918 01:26:50.600 --> 01:26:53.399 cart racer. I would say, that's a huge drop off 1919 01:26:53.439 --> 01:26:54.680 and what I expect. 1920 01:26:55.520 --> 01:26:57.880 Not that this should play in necessarily, but it's also 1921 01:26:58.359 --> 01:27:01.640 eighty dollars high. And they're like, we have the confidence 1922 01:27:01.680 --> 01:27:03.880 to charge eighty dollars for this one, and they're doing 1923 01:27:03.920 --> 01:27:06.199 it because it's Mario Kart, yes, but also everyone's like, 1924 01:27:06.279 --> 01:27:07.920 oh eighty dollars game, you're. 1925 01:27:07.800 --> 01:27:12.359 Bad delivered. 1926 01:27:11.880 --> 01:27:12.239 From. 1927 01:27:12.560 --> 01:27:16.520 Based off of hearing everyone talk so far, I think 1928 01:27:16.680 --> 01:27:21.680 our three might be Xbox Full Screen Experience, Monster Hunter, 1929 01:27:21.800 --> 01:27:26.760 Wilds and Metroid Prime four. I think that sounds right. 1930 01:27:27.039 --> 01:27:30.159 The World gave you guys some joy in the way 1931 01:27:30.199 --> 01:27:32.760 of these other Prime give me a lot of joint 1932 01:27:33.159 --> 01:27:33.760 I would shut. 1933 01:27:34.880 --> 01:27:37.680 Yeah, I didn't pay an, I didn't play any of Wilds. 1934 01:27:37.880 --> 01:27:42.479 But I really hate Mario Kart World. I think it sucks. 1935 01:27:43.119 --> 01:27:44.800 So that's that's the thing. 1936 01:27:44.880 --> 01:27:47.119 It seems like we were all to some degree let 1937 01:27:47.199 --> 01:27:48.239 down by Mario Kart World. 1938 01:27:48.479 --> 01:27:52.439 When that Metroid it's not between that metrics because I 1939 01:27:52.520 --> 01:27:54.920 think the majority of us are let down by Prime. 1940 01:27:55.199 --> 01:27:57.319 You know, I'm usually staying with you on Metro Dan 1941 01:27:57.359 --> 01:27:59.279 even I'm like, nah, I think Jan got I think. 1942 01:28:00.079 --> 01:28:02.159 Was a bigger disappoinment was World or Wild. 1943 01:28:02.359 --> 01:28:05.119 I was again, I don't have any expectations for worlds, 1944 01:28:05.119 --> 01:28:06.520 so Wild this was a bigger appointment to me. 1945 01:28:06.960 --> 01:28:11.960 I think it's like, like for World, it was that 1946 01:28:11.960 --> 01:28:14.199 the idea that this open world could be this big, 1947 01:28:14.479 --> 01:28:17.079 single player fun thing to do between the times when 1948 01:28:17.079 --> 01:28:19.439 I'm playing online with my friends, which mostly is still 1949 01:28:19.560 --> 01:28:23.960 pretty fun playing online with friends, especially Knockout Tour, the 1950 01:28:24.039 --> 01:28:26.159 courses are a little bit disappointing when you're playing traditional 1951 01:28:26.159 --> 01:28:27.600 Mario Kart, but then it's like you go to that 1952 01:28:27.640 --> 01:28:29.680 open world and it really is kind of nothing. For 1953 01:28:29.720 --> 01:28:32.439 the most part, I thought the challenges were okay. I 1954 01:28:32.479 --> 01:28:35.960 stopped doing them very fast because there's no connective tissue. 1955 01:28:36.279 --> 01:28:39.640 There is no there's no similarity to burn Out Paradise. 1956 01:28:39.680 --> 01:28:41.000 So it's like, if you're gonna do one of those, 1957 01:28:41.359 --> 01:28:43.159 look to the master and just replicate all of that, 1958 01:28:43.199 --> 01:28:44.720 and I get that, like, there's not gonna be a 1959 01:28:44.720 --> 01:28:46.760 lot of differences between the top speeds of the carts, 1960 01:28:46.920 --> 01:28:49.800 so having like the traffic cameras that like clock who's 1961 01:28:49.800 --> 01:28:52.000 the fastest on the street. Maybe you can't do that 1962 01:28:52.079 --> 01:28:54.880 on everything, but come up with some equivalent and make 1963 01:28:54.920 --> 01:28:56.720 it feel like a living world where everyone is kind 1964 01:28:56.720 --> 01:28:59.479 of asynchronously playing around with each other's carts and stuff. 1965 01:28:59.600 --> 01:28:59.960 I don't know. 1966 01:29:00.039 --> 01:29:02.119 I thought there would at least be like fun Nintendo East. 1967 01:29:02.720 --> 01:29:05.680 I remember early on was a vitality that picked me 1968 01:29:05.720 --> 01:29:08.159 up in my head, was like, Oh, there's gonna be 1969 01:29:08.199 --> 01:29:12.119 all these fun just Pintendo magic sprinkled all over this island. 1970 01:29:12.640 --> 01:29:12.840 Yeah. 1971 01:29:12.840 --> 01:29:15.560 I remember at that event, Dan, we not only like 1972 01:29:15.600 --> 01:29:18.119 the vitell ufo thing, but then us like looking at 1973 01:29:18.119 --> 01:29:20.800 the princess coins in the world and just being like, 1974 01:29:20.800 --> 01:29:21.239 what is. 1975 01:29:21.199 --> 01:29:22.359 This nothing really? 1976 01:29:22.399 --> 01:29:25.520 And then yeah, oh you can grind. Maybe you can 1977 01:29:25.560 --> 01:29:28.680 grind to get to somewhere specific or special. And then 1978 01:29:28.720 --> 01:29:31.319 it just doesn't result. It just doesn't deliver on that problem. 1979 01:29:32.640 --> 01:29:35.199 Metroprime four, I want to I want to pitch for 1980 01:29:35.359 --> 01:29:37.079 keeping on this list and maybe winning it in a 1981 01:29:37.119 --> 01:29:40.800 way I think you'll appreciate and understand, this game should 1982 01:29:40.840 --> 01:29:43.439 have been the consensus game of the year winner for 1983 01:29:43.560 --> 01:29:44.600 this group of people. 1984 01:29:49.640 --> 01:29:52.640 We don't know, but you should. 1985 01:29:52.439 --> 01:29:54.079 Be in a situation where all your friends agree with 1986 01:29:54.079 --> 01:29:55.560 you about this game and they don't. 1987 01:29:56.920 --> 01:29:59.560 Presume we haven't gotten there. That has to be disappointing, right, 1988 01:29:59.680 --> 01:30:00.039 I mean. 1989 01:30:00.119 --> 01:30:03.319 Yeah, yeah, Like we have maybe four of the biggest 1990 01:30:03.359 --> 01:30:06.319 metro fans in the industry right here, and like three 1991 01:30:06.359 --> 01:30:13.319 cores of us were disappointed commenting and master Hunt real quick. 1992 01:30:13.560 --> 01:30:16.039 It actually does have a similar problem to Mario Kart 1993 01:30:16.479 --> 01:30:21.239 in that different world. Monster Hunter World is arguably arguably 1994 01:30:21.359 --> 01:30:24.000 the best Monster Hunter because I think casuals loved it, 1995 01:30:24.159 --> 01:30:26.680 hardcore audience loved it, and it was going to be 1996 01:30:26.680 --> 01:30:28.680 tough to follow up that as well, just like Mario 1997 01:30:28.760 --> 01:30:31.520 Kart had tough time and Wild's had a similar problem 1998 01:30:31.560 --> 01:30:35.039 of they maybe didn't double down on things that people liked. 1999 01:30:35.119 --> 01:30:37.079 Maybe they thought they needed to take it in different 2000 01:30:37.119 --> 01:30:40.720 direction because they wouldn't one up themselves, and they fell 2001 01:30:40.760 --> 01:30:44.760 a little bit flat. So I actually don't know. It 2002 01:30:45.000 --> 01:30:47.159 almost sounds like we're leaning towards Mario Kart this way. 2003 01:30:47.159 --> 01:30:49.159 I think we are either way. 2004 01:30:49.319 --> 01:30:53.760 Yeah, I'm not super Yeah, it could be either, so 2005 01:30:53.840 --> 01:30:55.199 we can do Mario Kart World. 2006 01:30:55.319 --> 01:30:57.720 Okay, this will really quiet down the people who think 2007 01:30:57.760 --> 01:30:58.600 that were intend. 2008 01:31:01.119 --> 01:31:04.439 All right, So R three as of right now is 2009 01:31:04.640 --> 01:31:08.439 Xbox full screen experience MARKRT World and Metroid Prime four. 2010 01:31:08.680 --> 01:31:12.199 I have rarely been as disappointed in a game as 2011 01:31:12.239 --> 01:31:14.279 I was when I went into a Metroid Prime four 2012 01:31:14.319 --> 01:31:17.359 area for like the fourth or fifth area, maybe like 2013 01:31:17.359 --> 01:31:20.159 fourth area, and I'm like, it's the same exact sort 2014 01:31:20.199 --> 01:31:22.239 of setup. There is a safe spot right at the beginning, 2015 01:31:22.560 --> 01:31:24.800 and maybe there's one right before the boss, and it's 2016 01:31:24.840 --> 01:31:27.279 like everything in between there is just sort of some 2017 01:31:28.159 --> 01:31:30.760 maybe there's some puzzles, there is just sort of nothing 2018 01:31:30.840 --> 01:31:35.720 beyond that, no branches, and they just kind of did 2019 01:31:35.760 --> 01:31:40.039 the bare minimum here in every every way. And I've 2020 01:31:40.039 --> 01:31:42.119 never I don't want to say never, but rarely have 2021 01:31:42.199 --> 01:31:43.640 I been that disappointed. 2022 01:31:43.119 --> 01:31:46.800 In the game. How's this gonna lose? How is it 2023 01:31:46.920 --> 01:31:48.439 not going to be the most. 2024 01:31:48.039 --> 01:31:49.359 How hard is Dan gonna fight? 2025 01:31:49.600 --> 01:31:52.760 I mean, look, it's pretty clear you're allowed to fight. 2026 01:31:52.760 --> 01:31:55.720 You just also it is our list, and like, I 2027 01:31:55.800 --> 01:31:58.399 like the game a lot, but the level of disappointment 2028 01:31:58.439 --> 01:32:01.079 from a lot of fans of the series is huge here. 2029 01:32:01.119 --> 01:32:03.399 So like I'm not going to be ridiculous, Like, you know, 2030 01:32:03.479 --> 01:32:05.960 I really respect your review. I read that and like 2031 01:32:06.119 --> 01:32:07.960 I was giving you feedback on it and stuff, and 2032 01:32:08.039 --> 01:32:10.760 I totally get why it hits with you, but yeah, 2033 01:32:10.760 --> 01:32:12.680 I'm thinking about thinking about the group. 2034 01:32:12.720 --> 01:32:15.720 Well and simultaneously, like you know, to almost fight for 2035 01:32:15.760 --> 01:32:16.199 its staying on. 2036 01:32:16.279 --> 01:32:16.479 Here. 2037 01:32:17.039 --> 01:32:19.800 Everything I'm hearing you guys say about it, I don't 2038 01:32:19.800 --> 01:32:21.840 disagree with, like, you know, Greb, you just you know 2039 01:32:21.920 --> 01:32:24.119 there's a safe spot here, you know, Mina saying no, 2040 01:32:24.159 --> 01:32:27.000 there's two doors, Like it's like, yeah, I mean, yeah, 2041 01:32:27.039 --> 01:32:28.359 you're not saying anything wrong here. 2042 01:32:28.479 --> 01:32:32.119 Yeah. We we sort of have the hues range of 2043 01:32:32.479 --> 01:32:36.239 opinions on this game possible, I think, and we are 2044 01:32:36.279 --> 01:32:38.600 all basically saying the same thing about it. It's just 2045 01:32:38.640 --> 01:32:41.119 a question of did this bother? I think we two 2046 01:32:41.119 --> 01:32:42.840 out of five, three out of five, four out of five, 2047 01:32:42.840 --> 01:32:46.680 five out of yea, here, where's the one out of five? 2048 01:32:46.760 --> 01:32:53.319 Come on? Jan I thought it was really boring. I like, 2049 01:32:53.439 --> 01:32:55.600 I kind of was really upset that, like I didn't 2050 01:32:55.600 --> 01:32:57.960 wait for maybe getting a code and I paid for it, 2051 01:32:58.039 --> 01:33:00.119 and I'm like, this is what you'll really like. I 2052 01:33:00.880 --> 01:33:02.920 don't know if I could trust you guys anymore. Have 2053 01:33:02.960 --> 01:33:04.760 you played bet your Primary Master? I did. 2054 01:33:05.119 --> 01:33:07.039 I did because you guys told me I should check 2055 01:33:07.039 --> 01:33:09.039 it out, and I checked it out. I was like 2056 01:33:09.279 --> 01:33:13.199 this ship fucking bangs. Yeah, it looks great. Betrod Prime 2057 01:33:13.279 --> 01:33:17.840 four also looks great, looks looks amazing. Yeah, credible feeling sound. 2058 01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:21.520 And then I'm just like, this is it, man? Why 2059 01:33:21.520 --> 01:33:22.520 didn't this bother me? 2060 01:33:23.399 --> 01:33:25.079 You're saying it is true. I just don't understand why 2061 01:33:25.079 --> 01:33:25.680 didn't bother me? 2062 01:33:25.920 --> 01:33:28.600 I think of it of like, how long was this 2063 01:33:28.640 --> 01:33:31.960 in development? Hell for? 2064 01:33:30.159 --> 01:33:42.680 I love your kids, I get home. I don't know. 2065 01:33:42.720 --> 01:33:45.279 I just think about like the fan expectations and sometimes 2066 01:33:45.319 --> 01:33:48.000 it's unrealistic, which you can actually deliver on. But then 2067 01:33:48.640 --> 01:33:50.119 I think of other games that have come out this 2068 01:33:50.199 --> 01:33:53.479 year that have smashed expectations. Silent Hill f for like 2069 01:33:53.520 --> 01:33:57.279 the sound Hill freaks out there. That's a great game. Yeah, 2070 01:33:57.359 --> 01:34:02.279 and Betrod Prime four just like uh and Dan again, 2071 01:34:02.319 --> 01:34:05.960 I read your review, well written review. I see where 2072 01:34:05.960 --> 01:34:07.760 you're coming from for it. But then me as like 2073 01:34:07.800 --> 01:34:09.800 a person that's not a fan of the series, I'm 2074 01:34:09.840 --> 01:34:10.359 just bored. 2075 01:34:11.479 --> 01:34:14.840 I was really surprised because I did like that first 2076 01:34:14.840 --> 01:34:15.680 hour I played. 2077 01:34:15.439 --> 01:34:17.920 In New York. I think it makes a good first impression. 2078 01:34:17.560 --> 01:34:19.239 You know, it makes it a real good first impression. 2079 01:34:19.279 --> 01:34:23.159 And then I almost to yeah, and that that was 2080 01:34:23.239 --> 01:34:27.319 upsetting and I don't. Yeah, I don't think it's it 2081 01:34:27.439 --> 01:34:30.920 never recovered from that initial first impression, never meant it. 2082 01:34:30.920 --> 01:34:31.960 I think I would have enjoyed it more. 2083 01:34:31.960 --> 01:34:33.439 I feel like if it wanted to be what that 2084 01:34:33.479 --> 01:34:36.000 first hour was and it was kind of more Halo 2085 01:34:36.079 --> 01:34:38.399 E action game, I might have almost like been along 2086 01:34:38.439 --> 01:34:39.800 for the ride a little bit more than this. 2087 01:34:39.880 --> 01:34:41.960 But it kind of like was wearing. 2088 01:34:41.640 --> 01:34:44.319 The clothes of Metroid Prime one, which is well, not 2089 01:34:44.359 --> 01:34:45.680 really feeling like it at all. 2090 01:34:45.880 --> 01:34:49.279 And the full screen experience is inexcusable. But I think 2091 01:34:49.319 --> 01:34:52.279 to someone else's point, it's like, yeah, but like again, 2092 01:34:52.359 --> 01:34:54.720 it's not falling me twice. 2093 01:34:54.880 --> 01:34:58.279 Yeah, situation that we're with Windows and Microsoft. 2094 01:34:57.760 --> 01:35:02.199 Where Metroid Prime four is just getting hit in the 2095 01:35:02.199 --> 01:35:03.319 face with a brick. 2096 01:35:03.399 --> 01:35:06.800 Right, what is it beyond? It's beyond nothing, dude. 2097 01:35:07.359 --> 01:35:10.920 I mean four is beyond three numerically, is. 2098 01:35:11.159 --> 01:35:14.600 Just like beyond the concerns of Metroids themselves, because. 2099 01:35:17.119 --> 01:35:18.600 I think it's supposed to be a cheeky take on 2100 01:35:18.640 --> 01:35:21.439 the psychic powers, but also they have been teleported to 2101 01:35:21.520 --> 01:35:24.239 a new world and so they are literally beyond anything 2102 01:35:24.279 --> 01:35:28.279 that they've experienced before, which is cheeky bosso whatever. Yeah, 2103 01:35:28.359 --> 01:35:30.920 I mean really like echoes, like, all right, she has 2104 01:35:30.920 --> 01:35:32.760 a little bit of echo location. I guess what whatever? 2105 01:35:32.920 --> 01:35:36.159 Right, Like the past dark Stamus is an echo of 2106 01:35:36.199 --> 01:35:37.039 her pin ball? 2107 01:35:37.079 --> 01:35:39.399 What does that mean about the ending? 2108 01:35:39.439 --> 01:35:39.960 I haven't gone there. 2109 01:35:40.159 --> 01:35:43.720 It sounds like everyone hates that. Everyone hates that. I 2110 01:35:43.800 --> 01:35:45.239 was like, oh, how did I get the bad ending? 2111 01:35:45.239 --> 01:35:46.000 I thought I got. 2112 01:35:45.840 --> 01:35:48.600 Most of them? I think metro games have bad end 2113 01:35:49.800 --> 01:35:50.319 more close. 2114 01:35:51.000 --> 01:35:52.079 Yeah, the good ending. 2115 01:35:52.119 --> 01:35:53.880 I'll say this, well, like saying anything about the ending, 2116 01:35:53.960 --> 01:35:55.199 the good ending is the same ending. 2117 01:35:55.239 --> 01:35:57.079 She takes her helmet off. That's insane. 2118 01:35:57.079 --> 01:35:59.399 It's a bad game of the year. We can spoil 2119 01:35:59.439 --> 01:36:01.279 these things, Mikey can cover your ears. Can we just 2120 01:36:01.319 --> 01:36:02.640 say what's so terrible about this? 2121 01:36:02.760 --> 01:36:02.960 Yeah? 2122 01:36:03.039 --> 01:36:07.760 Yeah, I mean I want to experience that's fine. 2123 01:36:08.039 --> 01:36:09.279 Did he beat it? Oh yeah? Yeah. 2124 01:36:09.319 --> 01:36:11.239 So it's like you fight this boss fight, which is 2125 01:36:11.279 --> 01:36:12.960 not my favorite part of the game. There's like three 2126 01:36:12.960 --> 01:36:14.840 tiered boss fight thing. Yeah, and then you got your 2127 01:36:14.840 --> 01:36:16.560 whole team. We've talked about the crew and Miles and 2128 01:36:16.560 --> 01:36:18.159 never one that you put together and everything, and they 2129 01:36:18.199 --> 01:36:19.560 all help you're in the boss fight. That's part of 2130 01:36:19.560 --> 01:36:21.119 what's annoying about it is you have to like revive 2131 01:36:21.159 --> 01:36:23.319 them constantly during the boss fight, and then at the 2132 01:36:23.439 --> 01:36:25.560 end it's like, okay, you got all the teleporter keys, 2133 01:36:25.640 --> 01:36:28.880 you beat Silos Silux, and it's time to teleport back 2134 01:36:28.880 --> 01:36:31.520 to metroid Land and she puts the key in the 2135 01:36:31.520 --> 01:36:33.960 ignition and there we go, and then it's like all 2136 01:36:34.000 --> 01:36:36.159 the people are dying and they're like, ah, she's like, 2137 01:36:37.000 --> 01:36:38.840 and then you warp away and you leave them there 2138 01:36:38.880 --> 01:36:40.560 and then lay at the flower and it's like, I 2139 01:36:40.600 --> 01:36:41.720 guess they're dead or something. 2140 01:36:41.960 --> 01:36:43.920 Now that I've sat on this for a while, that 2141 01:36:44.079 --> 01:36:46.399 is the moment right there. That's what made me hate 2142 01:36:46.399 --> 01:36:49.319 the ending. The entire ending sequence from like gathering green 2143 01:36:49.359 --> 01:36:51.920 crystals until the end. That's the part of the game 2144 01:36:52.640 --> 01:36:55.880 that makes Samus feel not like Samus, because Samus would 2145 01:36:55.920 --> 01:36:58.119 not leave them behind. She would figure out a way 2146 01:36:58.159 --> 01:37:01.039 to fuck up Silux and bring the crew that she's 2147 01:37:01.079 --> 01:37:01.760 bonded with home. 2148 01:37:01.800 --> 01:37:03.079 Well that's why I thought it was a bad ending 2149 01:37:03.119 --> 01:37:05.439 where it's like, oh, clearly there's a good ending where 2150 01:37:05.439 --> 01:37:06.520 it's like you rescue everyone. 2151 01:37:06.640 --> 01:37:07.239 Yeah, I mean you. 2152 01:37:07.159 --> 01:37:09.720 Start you start asking around and it's like, wait, what 2153 01:37:10.159 --> 01:37:13.479 no one else got so she left the homies? 2154 01:37:13.520 --> 01:37:16.520 Hang, yes, I got ninety items, and it's like they 2155 01:37:16.560 --> 01:37:18.359 all just like I'm died and whatever. I will be 2156 01:37:18.359 --> 01:37:19.079 surprised if like. 2157 01:37:19.039 --> 01:37:21.000 There's some DLC or they do something, but whatever, it 2158 01:37:21.000 --> 01:37:23.079 doesn't matter. This is the ending. That's a worse crime. 2159 01:37:23.119 --> 01:37:23.600 If that's what. 2160 01:37:23.600 --> 01:37:28.640 You're right, that's worse what happens. 2161 01:37:28.680 --> 01:37:31.800 So bad ending is the ending. Good ending is she 2162 01:37:31.800 --> 01:37:34.359 takes off her helmet. One hundred percent is Silex's backstory, 2163 01:37:34.399 --> 01:37:37.600 which you get flashes of throughout the ending. You get 2164 01:37:37.600 --> 01:37:40.960 the full cut scene, right, and it's not like it's 2165 01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:45.039 not anything. We all, yeah, it's good. It's a bad ending. 2166 01:37:45.079 --> 01:37:47.079 That's what brought it down from like, oh, I'm really 2167 01:37:47.159 --> 01:37:50.119 really liking this game to huh, this is the moment 2168 01:37:50.159 --> 01:37:53.039 that isn't very metroid to me because it feels antithetical 2169 01:37:53.079 --> 01:37:56.239 to everything that they built up with Samson's character. 2170 01:37:56.520 --> 01:37:59.039 And it's like, to no end, there's no exactly like 2171 01:37:59.159 --> 01:38:00.359 what am I supposed to be on this. 2172 01:38:00.600 --> 01:38:03.000 It felt like they were also trying to say like 2173 01:38:03.000 --> 01:38:05.760 oh no, no, Sam's cold bounty hunter. You know, she 2174 01:38:05.840 --> 01:38:08.800 left him behind, she she remembers the memories, but like 2175 01:38:09.359 --> 01:38:11.960 I'm saying like yeah, yeah. 2176 01:38:11.840 --> 01:38:14.479 Yeah, yeah, so just we're all very much in agreement 2177 01:38:14.479 --> 01:38:16.479 about them, all right, can I tell him to Yeah, 2178 01:38:16.880 --> 01:38:19.439 it's on that and Prime Force our winner. How long 2179 01:38:19.439 --> 01:38:20.680 do you think he would have kept his fingers in 2180 01:38:20.680 --> 01:38:24.279 his ears? If we didn't, he would he had been 2181 01:38:24.319 --> 01:38:26.199 suspicious his fingers. 2182 01:38:28.000 --> 01:38:31.560 Lovely discussion, Gang, I think because of the strong feelings, 2183 01:38:31.600 --> 01:38:33.079 I think Prime For is the winner. 2184 01:38:33.560 --> 01:38:36.560 I'm not even gonna argue that. Yeah for Disappointment of 2185 01:38:36.600 --> 01:38:39.560 the Year runners up the Xbox Full Screen Experience, Mark 2186 01:38:39.600 --> 01:38:44.199 Cartt World, and winning this category is Metroid Prime For. 2187 01:38:49.199 --> 01:38:53.199 I feel like it's more of like, oh, all right, Gang, 2188 01:38:53.239 --> 01:38:55.680 we have three more categories. We feel like, let's we 2189 01:38:55.720 --> 01:38:59.399 want to tackle another one. Yeah, it's the break I 2190 01:38:59.439 --> 01:39:04.039 think up. Yeah, really, all right, this is spelled co 2191 01:39:04.119 --> 01:39:12.960 O m E. All right, folks, listener best Comeback, Luminous, Katamari, Kanami, 2192 01:39:13.520 --> 01:39:19.399 Ninja Gaiden, Shanobi, Bubbs, Metroid Prime. 2193 01:39:19.199 --> 01:39:31.680 Yeah, Giant last nominee on this list is Giant Bomb. 2194 01:39:32.600 --> 01:39:38.279 Metro Prime winning would be such a schizophrenic, Yeah. 2195 01:39:37.520 --> 01:39:39.880 I for reasons that Sean kind of brought up earlier 2196 01:39:39.880 --> 01:39:42.039 about Katamari. It's like it never really felt like it. 2197 01:39:42.159 --> 01:39:44.079 I mean, if it had kind of a lull you 2198 01:39:44.119 --> 01:39:47.760 know constant. 2199 01:39:48.439 --> 01:39:51.119 Yeah, they remasters and re roll on switch and stuff 2200 01:39:51.159 --> 01:39:52.680 like that, but it's like there have been ways to 2201 01:39:52.680 --> 01:39:55.039 play decent Katemaris, Like I think this is the best 2202 01:39:55.039 --> 01:39:56.880 one since the first two, but. 2203 01:39:56.840 --> 01:39:58.680 Like something I've come back, but not much. 2204 01:39:58.680 --> 01:40:00.399 Yeah, I mean not compared to like some of the 2205 01:40:00.399 --> 01:40:00.960 other ones here. 2206 01:40:01.039 --> 01:40:03.880 Yeah, I think. 2207 01:40:03.760 --> 01:40:06.520 A strong one. I wonder if it's bold worthy because like. 2208 01:40:06.520 --> 01:40:08.119 I don't think can I can I say what I 2209 01:40:08.119 --> 01:40:09.680 think you're gonna say, yea yea Konami. 2210 01:40:09.960 --> 01:40:14.880 No, Well that's an interesting one too. Ninja Guiden. I 2211 01:40:15.079 --> 01:40:17.399 none of the three Ninja Guiden games that came out 2212 01:40:17.399 --> 01:40:19.319 this year I think are going to be I'm like, yeah, 2213 01:40:20.159 --> 01:40:24.560 to remake Rage Bound and four. I don't think any 2214 01:40:24.640 --> 01:40:25.960 of those three games are going to be like on 2215 01:40:26.000 --> 01:40:28.479 my top ten, but like they're all pretty solid. 2216 01:40:28.600 --> 01:40:29.159 And also we. 2217 01:40:29.119 --> 01:40:31.760 Went from like not any Ninja Guiden happening for a 2218 01:40:31.800 --> 01:40:34.960 long time to three good Ninja Guiden games just there, 2219 01:40:35.000 --> 01:40:37.439 like and rage Bound could make like the bottom rage 2220 01:40:37.760 --> 01:40:39.880 the best of the three, I think. Yeah, I mean, 2221 01:40:39.920 --> 01:40:42.279 it's like it's crazy that Ninja Guiden is so back. 2222 01:40:43.840 --> 01:40:48.119 Yeah, that aggregate's impressive year for that. It's like Conversely, Shuanoby, 2223 01:40:49.840 --> 01:40:51.399 it had been a long time, sin should no be 2224 01:40:51.720 --> 01:40:54.399 So maybe it's it's I think, yeah, the. 2225 01:40:54.439 --> 01:40:55.880 Reason that you said that you didn't think it was 2226 01:40:56.039 --> 01:40:57.439 a boomer game. I kind of feel that way too, 2227 01:40:57.439 --> 01:40:59.800 because it doesn't feel like a nostalgic game. 2228 01:41:00.159 --> 01:41:03.960 Just feels like a new good side scrow with a attach. 2229 01:41:04.039 --> 01:41:06.399 And that's exactly why I think Shanoby needs to be bolded, 2230 01:41:06.399 --> 01:41:09.439 because nobody gave a shit about Shova. 2231 01:41:12.800 --> 01:41:18.159 Thanks Ohio. Shanoby has some bad games there. They tried 2232 01:41:18.159 --> 01:41:21.479 to bring it back, but finally, finally they gave it 2233 01:41:21.479 --> 01:41:24.720 to Lizard Cube and it slaps. They knew the assignment, 2234 01:41:24.720 --> 01:41:25.520 they figured it out. 2235 01:41:25.880 --> 01:41:28.039 I think it's exactly that because it's like this is 2236 01:41:28.039 --> 01:41:29.880 a game series that could have just disappeared and it 2237 01:41:29.880 --> 01:41:31.680 would have been like no one would have been really been. 2238 01:41:31.640 --> 01:41:33.439 Making noise, like we get it, you're not going to 2239 01:41:33.520 --> 01:41:34.319 go back to Shanoby. 2240 01:41:34.560 --> 01:41:36.800 It's relevant now. I think that's a big part of 2241 01:41:36.800 --> 01:41:39.640 the comeback is like bringing back this ip that didn't 2242 01:41:39.760 --> 01:41:43.439 really matter outside like historical context, and you could just 2243 01:41:43.479 --> 01:41:45.600 give this to anyone, have them play a little bit 2244 01:41:45.640 --> 01:41:47.479 like I tried to get you guys to and you did, 2245 01:41:47.640 --> 01:41:49.680 and you're like, oh, this game's got the juice. You 2246 01:41:49.680 --> 01:41:51.399 can just do that to anyone who plays games and 2247 01:41:51.439 --> 01:41:54.800 they'll immediately get oh, this game got the juice. 2248 01:41:55.399 --> 01:41:58.520 Wouldn't It's not best throwback because it doesn't feel like 2249 01:41:59.439 --> 01:42:01.359 I was saying, it fuels new. I guess that counts 2250 01:42:01.359 --> 01:42:02.880 as a comeback because it came back and I think 2251 01:42:02.920 --> 01:42:04.159 reinvent itself exactly. 2252 01:42:05.720 --> 01:42:06.399 Yeah, that makes sense. 2253 01:42:06.439 --> 01:42:11.720 Okay, grub Can we strike Bubbsy from this list? Because 2254 01:42:11.880 --> 01:42:18.560 I actually think a year of Bubbs next year because 2255 01:42:18.680 --> 01:42:20.880 that game previous, like when we play a little bit of. 2256 01:42:20.840 --> 01:42:25.600 That, I was like, is this the perfect collection? Did 2257 01:42:25.720 --> 01:42:29.119 happen next year? But for d is next year is 2258 01:42:29.199 --> 01:42:31.039 perfect collection of conflict of interest? 2259 01:42:34.680 --> 01:42:37.000 Should get conflict of interest? I think Giant Palm should 2260 01:42:37.000 --> 01:42:37.239 win this. 2261 01:42:39.039 --> 01:42:41.359 I'm credited in the Bubbs Games of Special Thanks that 2262 01:42:41.840 --> 01:42:44.840 our friends positive about striking it positive. 2263 01:42:45.840 --> 01:42:50.039 I didn't know you were intentionally doing that. You intentionally 2264 01:42:50.039 --> 01:42:50.279 to that. 2265 01:42:50.520 --> 01:42:53.520 I didn't want to step on Yeah, don't step up 2266 01:42:53.560 --> 01:42:58.399 his pause come on with Konami. Uh congavert. 2267 01:42:58.479 --> 01:43:04.640 I was just trying to remember the ten seconds you 2268 01:43:04.680 --> 01:43:05.399 said positive. 2269 01:43:07.439 --> 01:43:11.960 Simon the metal gear solid delta, right and then last 2270 01:43:12.039 --> 01:43:14.840 year the Silent Hill, which. 2271 01:43:15.520 --> 01:43:18.600 I guess is part of the momentum very much forgotten 2272 01:43:18.640 --> 01:43:21.239 here though Deliver It All Costs was fun. I like, 2273 01:43:22.920 --> 01:43:28.000 original game's back. 2274 01:43:29.479 --> 01:43:31.600 Yeah, And I know this is again like starting like 2275 01:43:31.680 --> 01:43:33.520 we did have sold Hill two last year, but it 2276 01:43:33.520 --> 01:43:35.880 feels like the momentum is keeping up right now. And 2277 01:43:35.920 --> 01:43:38.760 this was even a bigger year than that. I mean, 2278 01:43:38.800 --> 01:43:40.800 you know, your solids back on the menu in a 2279 01:43:40.880 --> 01:43:44.960 meaningful way outside of just collections. So yeah, I mean, Konami, 2280 01:43:45.159 --> 01:43:48.119 they're back. I'd be comfortable bolding it for now, so 2281 01:43:48.199 --> 01:43:48.960 it sticks around. 2282 01:43:49.399 --> 01:43:52.199 I mean, it's just like they were so out in 2283 01:43:52.279 --> 01:43:54.640 terms of making the kinds of games I was interesting, right, 2284 01:43:56.079 --> 01:43:57.640 and they they were making a lot of money. That's 2285 01:43:57.680 --> 01:43:58.960 the thing that made it look because like they were 2286 01:43:58.960 --> 01:44:00.560 making a lot of money making their new and some 2287 01:44:00.600 --> 01:44:03.760 other stuff, and it was like would be like, they're 2288 01:44:03.840 --> 01:44:07.039 pretty profitable. And it's like since doing this, they started 2289 01:44:07.079 --> 01:44:09.720 making real games again. That's how I feel about it. Whatever, 2290 01:44:09.840 --> 01:44:11.920 and they started making real games again, and it's it's 2291 01:44:11.960 --> 01:44:14.000 also working from a business side where it's like they're 2292 01:44:14.000 --> 01:44:16.279 making more profit than they've ever made before. It's like 2293 01:44:16.319 --> 01:44:19.199 they've just figured everything out. That gives me this confidence 2294 01:44:19.239 --> 01:44:21.279 that it's not like, oh, they had a comeback year. 2295 01:44:21.399 --> 01:44:24.840 No, they're back. Yes, I feel like this is my 2296 01:44:25.039 --> 01:44:27.840 tinfoil hat on But I feel like they've pivoted back 2297 01:44:27.880 --> 01:44:30.119 to games because they fucked up Yu Gi Oh in 2298 01:44:30.199 --> 01:44:33.399 such a terrible way the actual card games and has 2299 01:44:33.439 --> 01:44:35.479 been dog shit for the past fifteen years. 2300 01:44:35.680 --> 01:44:36.119 They both know. 2301 01:44:38.960 --> 01:44:44.159 That was that was. It wasn't the best. I'm gonna 2302 01:44:44.159 --> 01:44:49.279 put them back. I'm gonna put chuck but like, I 2303 01:44:49.279 --> 01:44:52.479 don't know, I always prefer the Ugo card game, and 2304 01:44:52.520 --> 01:44:56.359 like it has become obscenely convoluted, and also all the 2305 01:44:56.399 --> 01:44:59.520 other TCGs have kind of eight Konami's lunch with that. 2306 01:45:00.039 --> 01:45:03.399 So I'm happy to see them back in games. Metroid 2307 01:45:03.479 --> 01:45:08.119 Prime we just talked a lot about it. 2308 01:45:07.000 --> 01:45:09.079 Seems to indicate it would not be the best. 2309 01:45:10.960 --> 01:45:16.680 Okay, Metroy Prime four, Metroid is fine. I'm I can't 2310 01:45:16.680 --> 01:45:19.399 believe I'm saying this. Metroy Prime four may have just 2311 01:45:19.479 --> 01:45:20.680 killed Metroy Prime. 2312 01:45:22.520 --> 01:45:25.000 Another one of Prime. We gotta find out what happens 2313 01:45:25.039 --> 01:45:25.520 to that crew. 2314 01:45:26.479 --> 01:45:30.399 Well, the fucking They'll go back to pinball the way 2315 01:45:30.399 --> 01:45:30.880 it should be. 2316 01:45:31.760 --> 01:45:33.199 I would kill for a Prime. 2317 01:45:35.800 --> 01:45:38.319 I'm probably the Luminous guy. 2318 01:45:38.920 --> 01:45:52.640 Yeah, oh yeah, Betrayals not my favorite people, Luminous. 2319 01:45:53.199 --> 01:45:56.439 I am very happy to have it back. But it 2320 01:45:56.520 --> 01:45:59.720 was basically one really good game, the PSP launch game, 2321 01:46:00.119 --> 01:46:02.640 and it's great. It's a modern hardware now, it's got 2322 01:46:02.680 --> 01:46:04.920 you know, new uh you know the visuals and sound, 2323 01:46:04.920 --> 01:46:06.399 which is a big part of what Luminis is. But 2324 01:46:06.600 --> 01:46:08.720 outside of the burst mechanic, which is a cool addition, 2325 01:46:08.840 --> 01:46:11.920 it is largely just it's Luminous as you remember it 2326 01:46:11.960 --> 01:46:12.960 from the PSP launch. 2327 01:46:13.439 --> 01:46:13.560 Uh. 2328 01:46:14.000 --> 01:46:16.439 You know. It's back back style is very similar to 2329 01:46:16.479 --> 01:46:17.520 Tetris effects exactly. 2330 01:46:17.640 --> 01:46:19.840 It's like, I'm so happy it exists, but I don't. 2331 01:46:19.640 --> 01:46:22.199 Know, it's not a down and out against all odds 2332 01:46:22.279 --> 01:46:22.520 kind of. 2333 01:46:22.960 --> 01:46:28.359 Compared to Ninja. Like these are killer killer comebacks. I'm 2334 01:46:28.479 --> 01:46:30.239 very happy for Luminous rise. It's great. 2335 01:46:30.720 --> 01:46:32.840 I think there are bigger comeback stories than this. 2336 01:46:33.359 --> 01:46:37.039 Let's talk about Giant Bum a pretty big comeback store. 2337 01:46:37.079 --> 01:46:39.199 But honestly, we've been here for years, right, so we've 2338 01:46:39.239 --> 01:46:41.560 been like like, I don't call it come don't call 2339 01:46:41.600 --> 01:46:44.159 it come back. You know you saved some stuff. 2340 01:46:43.880 --> 01:46:46.279 Here, Okay, okay, let me say something and then I 2341 01:46:46.359 --> 01:46:49.560 think we can cut it. Okay, way new to this. 2342 01:46:49.760 --> 01:46:50.319 We true did this. 2343 01:46:51.600 --> 01:46:56.640 Mike was saying, also, yeah, well, I. 2344 01:46:56.600 --> 01:46:59.399 Mean no, no, it doesn't work. Put me on the list. 2345 01:46:59.439 --> 01:47:08.239 Now, there was a moment, there was a moment there where. 2346 01:47:09.840 --> 01:47:10.279 You have a. 2347 01:47:12.119 --> 01:47:15.000 Yeah, I can speak to this like there was a 2348 01:47:15.119 --> 01:47:18.600 moment there where it did not seem good. No, it 2349 01:47:18.720 --> 01:47:21.319 did not seem like the plane was going to actually 2350 01:47:21.399 --> 01:47:25.159 be able to lift up again. And I feel like 2351 01:47:25.920 --> 01:47:29.960 that qualifies it as maybe some sort of like honorary award. 2352 01:47:31.920 --> 01:47:34.840 Now, yeah, I think. 2353 01:47:34.800 --> 01:47:38.520 Jane, you're a damn miracle worker, a wordsmith, and you've 2354 01:47:38.560 --> 01:47:40.479 done the right thing. Tell everyone what you did. 2355 01:47:40.720 --> 01:47:45.680 So I changed the category two Giant Bomb presents best Comeback. 2356 01:47:46.359 --> 01:47:48.640 It does beg the question who's presenting the rest of 2357 01:47:48.680 --> 01:47:49.439 the categories? 2358 01:47:55.479 --> 01:47:56.079 Especially? 2359 01:47:59.239 --> 01:48:01.159 Can I say, like as someone so I was in 2360 01:48:01.199 --> 01:48:04.119 the audience right in April and then May started working 2361 01:48:04.119 --> 01:48:06.560 with you guys and consulting on stuff in April, just 2362 01:48:06.600 --> 01:48:09.239 the absolute pit in my stomach that I had. 2363 01:48:09.119 --> 01:48:13.279 When you know, okay, cool, you know like this was. 2364 01:48:13.239 --> 01:48:16.239 My this was my selfisher, this was my content, main squeeze. 2365 01:48:16.279 --> 01:48:18.239 I enjoyed the shows and I was having a great 2366 01:48:18.279 --> 01:48:20.560 time and then it was just kind of felt like 2367 01:48:20.560 --> 01:48:23.079 everything was crumbling, falling apart, so like, way to fucking 2368 01:48:23.119 --> 01:48:25.000 go this fucking I'm. 2369 01:48:24.880 --> 01:48:27.960 Proud of us. Yes, yes, I remember being in the 2370 01:48:28.000 --> 01:48:31.000 lobby of uh I forget which hotel, but the main 2371 01:48:31.079 --> 01:48:34.199 packs East one, and then so many people seeing me 2372 01:48:34.520 --> 01:48:37.800 sitting there alone, I think, wanting to console me. And 2373 01:48:37.840 --> 01:48:40.920 it's very thankful for that, of course, it's thankful for 2374 01:48:41.000 --> 01:48:44.960 all the support, but just sitting on the egg that like, no, 2375 01:48:45.199 --> 01:48:46.840 just just wait a couple of hours, just waiting a 2376 01:48:46.880 --> 01:48:47.800 couple hang out. 2377 01:48:48.399 --> 01:48:51.199 The reaction in the room when we announced it one 2378 01:48:51.199 --> 01:48:52.600 of the most moving things I've ever been. 2379 01:48:52.479 --> 01:48:55.479 A part of. Yeah, yeah, very magical moment. Not as 2380 01:48:55.520 --> 01:48:57.680 magical as being a Disney World Yeah, of. 2381 01:48:57.600 --> 01:48:58.640 Course, it's a weird trip. 2382 01:49:02.560 --> 01:49:04.000 One day, I'm going to go back to Disney World 2383 01:49:04.079 --> 01:49:05.720 and sit where you sat when we told you. 2384 01:49:06.319 --> 01:49:09.439 Put the Gingerbread house there for Christmas, which I thought 2385 01:49:09.479 --> 01:49:09.840 was fine. 2386 01:49:09.880 --> 01:49:11.760 That's great statue, Yeah. 2387 01:49:13.960 --> 01:49:14.319 That share. 2388 01:49:14.600 --> 01:49:17.840 Oh yeah, Disney loves when you just bring your own plaques. 2389 01:49:18.600 --> 01:49:25.279 Cot Grandma, So our top three since we eliminated ourselves, graciously. 2390 01:49:25.079 --> 01:49:29.119 Should we make a giant bomb? Dot Com presents the website. 2391 01:49:29.159 --> 01:49:32.319 Oh come back, there you go. The website is back, 2392 01:49:32.399 --> 01:49:34.600 and that DeLine the rest of the represents this is 2393 01:49:34.640 --> 01:49:35.319 a giant bomb. 2394 01:49:37.279 --> 01:49:38.560 Perfect don't want spam. 2395 01:49:38.760 --> 01:49:42.520 Yeah, of course, of course, so our three that we 2396 01:49:42.560 --> 01:49:45.960 have bolded our Konami, Ninja, Guiden and Shinobi. 2397 01:49:46.079 --> 01:49:47.880 Yeah, it shout outs to the Ninja Games. 2398 01:49:47.880 --> 01:49:50.159 But there is something about Konami which has like a 2399 01:49:51.439 --> 01:49:55.439 think well thought that that was just yeah. 2400 01:49:54.560 --> 01:49:55.479 Just the health club and stuff. 2401 01:49:55.479 --> 01:49:56.960 I remember like an E three and like the late 2402 01:49:57.000 --> 01:49:59.479 twenty tens where they used to have a huge, huge 2403 01:49:59.479 --> 01:50:01.359 booth and like South or West Hall and then it 2404 01:50:01.399 --> 01:50:04.439 was like upstairs down the hall down at east Side 2405 01:50:04.479 --> 01:50:06.880 Tributary Hall and there was one tiny little like Konami 2406 01:50:06.920 --> 01:50:08.479 thing next to a door, and be like, oh, they're 2407 01:50:08.560 --> 01:50:12.479 fucking toast And that was almost ten years ago, and god. 2408 01:50:12.399 --> 01:50:15.079 Damn, they're they're back. I remember one of my first 2409 01:50:15.239 --> 01:50:18.600 and I guess only E three appointments was oh, yeah, 2410 01:50:18.640 --> 01:50:20.199 you're gonna go check out ECONOMI game. 2411 01:50:20.319 --> 01:50:21.520 Oh sick cool? 2412 01:50:22.079 --> 01:50:28.479 And it was a shitty Olympics for the switch that 2413 01:50:28.600 --> 01:50:31.399 barely worked with any of the motion controls. Yeah, out 2414 01:50:31.399 --> 01:50:33.359 of that moment, like man, we were done. 2415 01:50:33.159 --> 01:50:35.760 We're at the point now where like Mike, I feel 2416 01:50:35.760 --> 01:50:36.880 like I say, I see you a lot of like 2417 01:50:37.239 --> 01:50:40.319 Sega so bad, CAPCOMs so bad, because we're big fans 2418 01:50:40.359 --> 01:50:44.239 of those companies and their games and Konami. I don't 2419 01:50:44.239 --> 01:50:46.800 think it's crazy to say that they are with those 2420 01:50:46.800 --> 01:50:50.239 guys now, like Omi is so back, especially things. 2421 01:50:50.159 --> 01:50:52.600 To Capcom for showing them the way exactly. 2422 01:50:52.439 --> 01:50:56.199 Like they they were up until I feel like, even 2423 01:50:56.680 --> 01:50:59.199 you know, less than a year ago, the joke of 2424 01:50:59.239 --> 01:51:01.239 the internet, like even if you do have stuff like 2425 01:51:01.279 --> 01:51:03.680 Silent Hell to remake, it was still like, but you know, 2426 01:51:03.720 --> 01:51:04.279 they're not going. 2427 01:51:04.239 --> 01:51:04.800 To do that again. 2428 01:51:04.880 --> 01:51:09.119 And now we're like when Kanamia announces something, man, we're 2429 01:51:09.119 --> 01:51:10.399 we excited about. 2430 01:51:10.199 --> 01:51:12.560 And they were like and it's like the comeback is 2431 01:51:12.680 --> 01:51:16.520 especially important because they were once like the Pinnacle. 2432 01:51:16.520 --> 01:51:18.119 Like they were so important to. 2433 01:51:20.000 --> 01:51:22.880 Yes, like so many games, so many like and like 2434 01:51:23.159 --> 01:51:24.920 their music was some of the best you can get on, 2435 01:51:24.960 --> 01:51:26.680 like the ne e s and stuff like that. They 2436 01:51:26.680 --> 01:51:29.439 were crucial and to have them go away, it's like, man, 2437 01:51:29.479 --> 01:51:32.439 there's that's a bad sign for video games. 2438 01:51:32.479 --> 01:51:34.800 Yeah, it's it's the fact that we're thinking about them 2439 01:51:34.800 --> 01:51:36.600 in that way, even if they haven't had like a 2440 01:51:36.760 --> 01:51:40.119 super huge output to like point out business, this is 2441 01:51:40.159 --> 01:51:42.520 this the fact that has been quality and now we 2442 01:51:42.600 --> 01:51:44.720 are like, yeah, they're so back the way they used 2443 01:51:44.720 --> 01:51:44.920 to be. 2444 01:51:45.359 --> 01:51:48.239 In a way, it's kind of realistic to like now 2445 01:51:48.359 --> 01:51:50.159 get excited about the possibility of like, hey, are you 2446 01:51:50.199 --> 01:51:52.079 gonna do contra in Castlevania games. 2447 01:51:53.439 --> 01:51:55.479 They did do a contra game recently that was really 2448 01:51:55.560 --> 01:51:57.920 bad Contra out. 2449 01:51:58.000 --> 01:51:59.319 Yeah, I feel like that that was I mean I 2450 01:51:59.359 --> 01:52:01.399 covered that a g B East So that was pre pandemic. 2451 01:52:01.560 --> 01:52:03.279 So it has been a little bit, so I think 2452 01:52:03.279 --> 01:52:05.640 there was another new one or whatever. 2453 01:52:06.840 --> 01:52:08.000 I think we're all waiting to see what they do 2454 01:52:08.000 --> 01:52:09.760 with Castle Vania for sure. Yeah, definitely. 2455 01:52:10.840 --> 01:52:13.880 So I am gonna say, sounds like Konami is the 2456 01:52:13.880 --> 01:52:15.560 winner here, alright. 2457 01:52:15.640 --> 01:52:16.560 I'm putting a star. 2458 01:52:17.119 --> 01:52:21.279 Giant Bomb dot Com especially presents best Comeback runners up 2459 01:52:21.359 --> 01:52:26.800 being Shnobi, Ninja Gaiden in the Ultimate Winner Konami. Congratulations. 2460 01:52:27.399 --> 01:52:32.920 So the first time a nominee has become part of 2461 01:52:33.039 --> 01:52:34.960 the category. 2462 01:52:38.680 --> 01:52:40.760 What happens you know, hey, we can't say that. I 2463 01:52:40.760 --> 01:52:43.000 think after this the year of the Ninja. 2464 01:52:43.720 --> 01:52:45.880 Yeah, yeah, different ninja. 2465 01:52:45.960 --> 01:52:59.560 All right, Ninjas, you got fifteen days left you can't. 2466 01:53:00.359 --> 01:53:01.279 I don't even get it. 2467 01:53:04.000 --> 01:53:04.600 What do you mean? 2468 01:53:04.760 --> 01:53:06.800 I'll show you a reel that we made of mine. 2469 01:53:07.520 --> 01:53:09.800 Right, we're talking to speaking. 2470 01:53:12.520 --> 01:53:14.680 We have two more categories. I think we can get 2471 01:53:14.720 --> 01:53:16.560 through the next one and then we should take a break. 2472 01:53:16.680 --> 01:53:23.800 Can beat coffee No, okay. Next category is best rogue. Okay. 2473 01:53:23.960 --> 01:53:30.479 We have Hades two, Absolom, Blueprints, Ballpit, White Knuckle, Nubbies, 2474 01:53:30.560 --> 01:53:36.520 Number Factory, Megabonk, Monster Trained two dog Whitch Starvaders. 2475 01:53:36.000 --> 01:53:40.199 Sear their ad sectory and then remove sectory. Sectary is 2476 01:53:40.199 --> 01:53:44.000 a pretty light rogue deleted or just strike through strike. 2477 01:53:44.720 --> 01:53:47.239 It doesn't get to the rogue elements fast enough. 2478 01:53:47.520 --> 01:53:50.359 It looks it does. The thing is you don't notice 2479 01:53:50.399 --> 01:53:52.960 them because they're so inconsequentially. Yeah, even when you get 2480 01:53:53.000 --> 01:53:56.039 all of them, it's like, okay, you like hit randomize 2481 01:53:56.039 --> 01:53:56.199 on it. 2482 01:53:56.239 --> 01:53:56.479 It's like. 2483 01:53:58.640 --> 01:54:01.319 Randomized, let's see what happens. Like I got a deck 2484 01:54:01.359 --> 01:54:03.279 of cards. I like now, but there's sixteen cards you have. 2485 01:54:03.560 --> 01:54:06.199 You have to have eight attached to unlock the other eight. 2486 01:54:06.319 --> 01:54:08.600 It's really I think it's just an onboarding thing, and 2487 01:54:08.640 --> 01:54:12.640 they're using this sort of very light structure of rogue 2488 01:54:12.680 --> 01:54:15.319 light to get you onboarded in a kind of painless. 2489 01:54:15.119 --> 01:54:17.359 In the most technical sense, I guess it's a rogue light, 2490 01:54:17.399 --> 01:54:19.520 but it's definitely not yeah, rogue light. 2491 01:54:19.800 --> 01:54:23.079 I feel like you've said that roguelikes and especially rogue lights, 2492 01:54:23.159 --> 01:54:25.680 are a sort of like the I guess roguelikes would 2493 01:54:25.680 --> 01:54:27.279 be the one that is more so like the follow 2494 01:54:27.399 --> 01:54:29.640 up to the arcade experience and like figuring out how 2495 01:54:29.680 --> 01:54:32.199 to have that at home without feeling cheap or anything 2496 01:54:32.279 --> 01:54:34.479 like that. But I do think yeah, with Sectory, it's 2497 01:54:34.600 --> 01:54:37.079 kind of just kind of just is an arcade game 2498 01:54:37.359 --> 01:54:39.680 that happens to have some of those rogue light mechanics. 2499 01:54:40.079 --> 01:54:43.279 I want to cut Nubbi's number factory. 2500 01:54:43.359 --> 01:54:45.199 I want to talk it up a little bit. 2501 01:54:45.239 --> 01:54:47.800 That looks so cool. I really like it. The style 2502 01:54:48.000 --> 01:54:49.840 is like very fun. It reminds me of like early 2503 01:54:50.399 --> 01:54:52.439 or late nineteen nineties websites. 2504 01:54:52.159 --> 01:54:53.880 Right, It reminds me of when I was making a 2505 01:54:54.520 --> 01:54:56.600 Monkey Island fan site on angel Fire. 2506 01:54:56.720 --> 01:54:59.359 You know, that is the least surprising thing he's ever said. 2507 01:55:01.079 --> 01:55:02.880 I want to cut it because when I think of 2508 01:55:02.960 --> 01:55:06.119 all the other roguelikes here, I want to keep going 2509 01:55:06.239 --> 01:55:09.880 back to them, and after like having a really successful 2510 01:55:09.960 --> 01:55:12.399 run at Nubby's Number Factory and having like a very 2511 01:55:12.439 --> 01:55:14.239 good run. I haven't revisited it. 2512 01:55:14.479 --> 01:55:15.239 I was the same way. 2513 01:55:15.239 --> 01:55:16.720 I really liked it, but it was a more of 2514 01:55:16.720 --> 01:55:18.439 a one and done as opposed to some of these 2515 01:55:18.520 --> 01:55:21.399 other ones that, like I saw credits right. 2516 01:55:21.640 --> 01:55:23.680 I don't know if this will be a controversial take, 2517 01:55:23.840 --> 01:55:26.359 but I would say let's cut Ballpit. I think the 2518 01:55:26.560 --> 01:55:29.800 core gameplay is really fun and satisfying. I do think 2519 01:55:29.840 --> 01:55:32.239 the stuff in between is just not something I look 2520 01:55:32.239 --> 01:55:34.760 forward to. I think a great roguelike is something like 2521 01:55:34.960 --> 01:55:36.600 like a Hades two, when you go back to the 2522 01:55:36.680 --> 01:55:38.359 hub and everything, It's like, okay, well, let's see my 2523 01:55:38.439 --> 01:55:40.359 plants are done, I can concoct this thing. I can 2524 01:55:40.399 --> 01:55:41.880 do this, like, oh this thing is changed, John, I 2525 01:55:41.920 --> 01:55:43.880 got this new area here, Like it makes you excited 2526 01:55:43.920 --> 01:55:45.439 to kind of have that cool down before the next 2527 01:55:45.520 --> 01:55:46.560 run Ballpit. 2528 01:55:46.720 --> 01:55:47.119 I go back. 2529 01:55:47.199 --> 01:55:49.159 I'm like, I guess I'll fucking put these fields here 2530 01:55:49.199 --> 01:55:50.600 and watch the ball man's back and forth a little 2531 01:55:50.600 --> 01:55:52.399 bit before you know, it's like that stuff in between 2532 01:55:52.680 --> 01:55:53.159 is not fun. 2533 01:55:53.279 --> 01:55:55.920 I'm so glad we are united in this, Dan, because 2534 01:55:55.920 --> 01:55:57.520 I've seen so many people say you just got to 2535 01:55:57.560 --> 01:55:57.920 get over it. 2536 01:55:58.039 --> 01:56:03.279 I like Ballpit a ton. Okay, this was my November game. 2537 01:56:03.720 --> 01:56:05.720 I played this November. 2538 01:56:09.239 --> 01:56:09.600 Jesus. 2539 01:56:10.239 --> 01:56:14.560 I loved the I liked the whole gameplay ball Pit. 2540 01:56:14.960 --> 01:56:17.079 The upgrades were really good. Like a point you can 2541 01:56:17.119 --> 01:56:20.239 break two of the characters in and their powers combined, 2542 01:56:20.479 --> 01:56:22.199 the way you're melting the balls coming up with these 2543 01:56:22.199 --> 01:56:25.920 new combos. I liked the mid stuff. I get a 2544 01:56:25.960 --> 01:56:27.399 little bit while you guys wanted to brace. I'm a 2545 01:56:27.399 --> 01:56:29.520 little surprised that you dislike it so much. It's just 2546 01:56:29.920 --> 01:56:31.720 you just put the things there and you bounce with 2547 01:56:31.800 --> 01:56:32.479 people against that. 2548 01:56:32.760 --> 01:56:34.720 I think the reason I dislike it is because like 2549 01:56:34.760 --> 01:56:36.680 to go back to almost like the best or most 2550 01:56:36.720 --> 01:56:37.840 disappointment category. 2551 01:56:38.079 --> 01:56:39.920 I thought that was such a cool idea that. 2552 01:56:40.000 --> 01:56:42.119 Like almost like a city builder type thing in between 2553 01:56:42.199 --> 01:56:44.920 this arcade, you know, schmub type thing, Like I thought 2554 01:56:44.960 --> 01:56:47.000 that sounded so cool, and for it to be just 2555 01:56:47.119 --> 01:56:48.920 kind of this thing where it's like, you know, I'll 2556 01:56:49.000 --> 01:56:50.399 kind of set this up and I need the ball back, 2557 01:56:50.479 --> 01:56:52.880 like there's there isn't a layer of depth or strategy 2558 01:56:52.920 --> 01:56:53.600 that I wanted from that. 2559 01:56:53.760 --> 01:56:55.239 That's not a huge but I think it just I 2560 01:56:55.319 --> 01:56:58.000 think it makes those kind of usual you just kept 2561 01:56:58.039 --> 01:57:00.680 basically spend currency and get them up grades in these 2562 01:57:00.720 --> 01:57:03.199 games a bit more interesting in that, and it's another 2563 01:57:03.239 --> 01:57:05.319 way to play on the whole, you know, kind of 2564 01:57:05.520 --> 01:57:08.640 arcanoid bouncing balls off of things ideas, And it becomes 2565 01:57:08.680 --> 01:57:10.239 even more interesting when you get into it because it 2566 01:57:10.319 --> 01:57:13.560 does matter how these things are placed, Like one building 2567 01:57:13.880 --> 01:57:16.520 is going to increase the experience game for any character's 2568 01:57:16.600 --> 01:57:19.000 house that's within range of it. That kind of thing, 2569 01:57:19.000 --> 01:57:22.680 and other things are kind of more passively generating resources 2570 01:57:22.720 --> 01:57:24.600 for you if you put farms in the right places 2571 01:57:24.640 --> 01:57:25.039 over there. 2572 01:57:25.199 --> 01:57:27.159 I think it's almost too generous to call it arcanoid 2573 01:57:27.239 --> 01:57:29.000 like because an arcanoid you're at least moving the thing 2574 01:57:29.039 --> 01:57:29.479 at the bottom. 2575 01:57:29.560 --> 01:57:31.600 So that part, yeah, But like the gameplay part, so 2576 01:57:31.840 --> 01:57:33.640 I get what am I saying, though, I will say 2577 01:57:33.640 --> 01:57:35.600 to add a voice to this though that I am 2578 01:57:35.720 --> 01:57:37.720 with Dan on it where I think it's more of 2579 01:57:37.840 --> 01:57:40.560 just like, ay, that's not what we want for the cool. 2580 01:57:40.359 --> 01:57:43.560 Down in between the more Arcadie experiences. Because I do 2581 01:57:43.720 --> 01:57:45.760 hear a lot of people say what Mike's saying of 2582 01:57:45.920 --> 01:57:48.960 like it's an interesting new way to do that. It 2583 01:57:49.119 --> 01:57:51.479 just really didn't hit with me either, and I actually 2584 01:57:51.960 --> 01:57:54.920 I don't love the core gameplay a Ballpit either, Like 2585 01:57:55.000 --> 01:57:57.600 the just moving the guy and the balls are bouncing. 2586 01:57:57.680 --> 01:58:00.840 It's like it's very visually stimulating, especially once you can 2587 01:58:00.880 --> 01:58:03.760 get the various you know, the rogue like stuff that 2588 01:58:03.920 --> 01:58:07.119 like being all stack the balls going through enemies, and 2589 01:58:07.159 --> 01:58:08.720 then when they pass through ax enemies they do. 2590 01:58:08.800 --> 01:58:10.159 Stuff that is kind of fun. 2591 01:58:10.239 --> 01:58:11.560 But at a certain point you kind of just are 2592 01:58:11.920 --> 01:58:13.720 moving the guy back and forth, and I don't feel 2593 01:58:13.720 --> 01:58:16.279 like there's a ton of strategy to the gameplay in 2594 01:58:16.359 --> 01:58:20.279 the way that other roguelikes sometimes do, like even Vampire Survivors, like, oh, 2595 01:58:20.279 --> 01:58:23.199 I'm going to carve a path this way through the enemies. 2596 01:58:23.359 --> 01:58:25.680 There's not as much of the ball pay I was. 2597 01:58:25.880 --> 01:58:28.039 With you to like the Vampire Survivors things like, oh, 2598 01:58:28.119 --> 01:58:30.439 this is more than Vampire Survivors. 2599 01:58:30.800 --> 01:58:33.720 Dog, you know, Vampire Survivors is ten times the rug. 2600 01:58:34.079 --> 01:58:35.960 Yeah, I mean I definitely got to the point where 2601 01:58:35.960 --> 01:58:38.479 I was really thinking about what upgrades, which character powers 2602 01:58:38.520 --> 01:58:40.800 I was paying with. But you know, I have other 2603 01:58:40.880 --> 01:58:43.119 games on as I care more about than Ballpit, So like, 2604 01:58:43.199 --> 01:58:45.199 if I'm the only one who's a big fan, let's 2605 01:58:45.199 --> 01:58:46.640 just keep it. I think you can stick around for 2606 01:58:46.680 --> 01:58:48.600 not that was dog Witch. Yeah, let me let me 2607 01:58:48.600 --> 01:58:49.600 talk about dog Witch a little bit. 2608 01:58:49.640 --> 01:58:51.319 I don't, I don't. It's not going to win this 2609 01:58:51.479 --> 01:58:54.159 or get bolded. But dog Witch is this game where 2610 01:58:54.199 --> 01:58:56.960 you play as a dog in a witch hat with 2611 01:58:57.079 --> 01:59:00.439 a wand what do they call it? The dog and 2612 01:59:00.640 --> 01:59:03.479 you go through rounds of combat trying to get to 2613 01:59:03.600 --> 01:59:05.399 your wizard master and beat his ass. 2614 01:59:05.960 --> 01:59:06.199 Cool. 2615 01:59:06.479 --> 01:59:10.079 It's adorable. The art style is incredibly unique and slick. 2616 01:59:10.439 --> 01:59:12.880 It feels really fun to play. It goes and it's 2617 01:59:12.960 --> 01:59:17.039 just like really snappy. It's very whimsical. You summon like 2618 01:59:17.119 --> 01:59:20.039 familiars and they can be like gargoyles that turn things 2619 01:59:20.119 --> 01:59:23.960 to stone, or like fucking bees, like just happy looking 2620 01:59:24.079 --> 01:59:27.560 bees that will sting things. It's an adorable game. 2621 01:59:27.600 --> 01:59:27.960 It's great. 2622 01:59:28.000 --> 01:59:30.000 I wish it was longer. I wish I had more 2623 01:59:30.119 --> 01:59:33.239 there because the bones are so good. I just I 2624 01:59:33.399 --> 01:59:36.399 love these style games. It really is like it fits 2625 01:59:36.439 --> 01:59:39.479 in with like a Monster Train or a Slave the Spire, 2626 01:59:39.920 --> 01:59:43.239 but it's like whimsical and goofy and fun. It really 2627 01:59:43.359 --> 01:59:46.000 is super it's great. Heck Mouse is the developer. They 2628 01:59:46.000 --> 01:59:47.960 haven't made too many games. This is if they do 2629 01:59:48.079 --> 01:59:49.920 stuff like this, and they can make something like longer, 2630 01:59:50.039 --> 01:59:53.000 more robust. I'm so excited. Yeah, it doesn't hang with 2631 01:59:53.119 --> 01:59:55.760 this list, but it's it's phenomenal. As you play on cool, 2632 01:59:55.800 --> 01:59:58.840 it shouts out to my dogs out there. Oh and 2633 01:59:59.000 --> 02:00:01.479 when you throw around a combat and you don't take 2634 02:00:01.479 --> 02:00:03.800 any damage, it does the street Fighter perfect. 2635 02:00:04.479 --> 02:00:08.520 It's very sad. More dogs and games less cats and movies. 2636 02:00:11.279 --> 02:00:13.079 Put more of them in the movie Cats and we'll 2637 02:00:13.079 --> 02:00:14.119 be oh, oh yeah. 2638 02:00:14.199 --> 02:00:18.439 Yeah, I'm gonna say we're gonna lock down haities. Yeah, 2639 02:00:18.640 --> 02:00:22.720 it's gonna be the best of all time. Okay. Can 2640 02:00:22.760 --> 02:00:28.119 I also pitch that we lock blueprints and if we don't, yeah, 2641 02:00:28.720 --> 02:00:33.960 they might be the most rogue of these. Yeah, Dan, 2642 02:00:34.079 --> 02:00:37.479 I know you were the biggest megaboonk fans and planet. 2643 02:00:39.720 --> 02:00:42.880 I'm not saying we cut it, but do you think 2644 02:00:42.960 --> 02:00:45.720 it has a case to be bolded? I mean, is 2645 02:00:45.760 --> 02:00:48.399 its case exactly the case that Vampire Survivors had? 2646 02:00:48.720 --> 02:00:52.239 Yeah, that's a good question. We have a cool skeleton 2647 02:00:52.279 --> 02:00:55.279 in it, though, as a cool skeleton skateboards. I mean, 2648 02:00:55.399 --> 02:00:58.279 it does feel different than Vampire Survivors. It's incredibly similar 2649 02:00:58.359 --> 02:01:00.439 in the way, like the weapons and things like that. 2650 02:01:00.560 --> 02:01:02.600 Come together and like the challenge list and stuff like that, 2651 02:01:03.319 --> 02:01:06.960 the steady drip of getting new characters, new levels. I 2652 02:01:07.159 --> 02:01:10.399 do think that the perspective the three D element a 2653 02:01:10.439 --> 02:01:13.800 bit because that plays into the actual stuff you're upgrading, 2654 02:01:13.800 --> 02:01:16.479 where it's like, oh, okay, I'm getting I've got four 2655 02:01:16.640 --> 02:01:18.520 jumps now, and I've got these skills that make it 2656 02:01:18.560 --> 02:01:20.399 so I do plus fifty percent damage when I'm in 2657 02:01:20.399 --> 02:01:22.720 the air. So it's like it doesn't just feel like 2658 02:01:22.840 --> 02:01:25.079 a cheap gimmick of like, oh, we made Vampire Survivors 2659 02:01:25.119 --> 02:01:26.600 three D. It makes use of the space. 2660 02:01:27.760 --> 02:01:28.000 It is. 2661 02:01:28.600 --> 02:01:31.279 Boy, I like it almost as much as Vampire Survivors 2662 02:01:31.319 --> 02:01:33.840 and Vampire Survivors is maybe like my second Paver Rogue 2663 02:01:33.920 --> 02:01:37.199 like all time. So I don't know, I've I've been 2664 02:01:37.239 --> 02:01:39.199 playing it for months and I still enjoy it every 2665 02:01:39.279 --> 02:01:42.960 time I load it up. But I mean, if no 2666 02:01:43.000 --> 02:01:44.800 one else hot on it. 2667 02:01:45.760 --> 02:01:48.720 Crossout ball Pit first, Yeah, I want a hero set 2668 02:01:48.760 --> 02:01:50.920 out for him and knows I'm his friend. 2669 02:01:51.039 --> 02:01:55.479 Oh, I think Mikey Megabunk is like right outside for me. 2670 02:01:55.520 --> 02:01:58.520 I would go with Absolom first for the third since 2671 02:01:58.560 --> 02:02:00.279 we have Hades two and blue prints already. 2672 02:02:01.520 --> 02:02:03.079 That but I like to make a bonk a ton 2673 02:02:03.119 --> 02:02:03.720 when I was playing. 2674 02:02:03.840 --> 02:02:05.920 Yeah, here's what I want to bring up, and I 2675 02:02:06.000 --> 02:02:08.640 feel like might get the short end here to consider 2676 02:02:08.720 --> 02:02:12.359 how good it is. Monster Train two. Yeah, I played. 2677 02:02:12.840 --> 02:02:14.840 There's like, you know, five factions or they might have 2678 02:02:14.880 --> 02:02:17.600 added some like five decks whatever, and I played through 2679 02:02:17.920 --> 02:02:19.760 and beat it with like two or three of them. 2680 02:02:20.319 --> 02:02:22.680 It is very good, and it's it's my favorite of 2681 02:02:22.720 --> 02:02:25.039 those kind of like card Battlers Slay the Spire types 2682 02:02:25.079 --> 02:02:27.359 and everything. And I know that people like, you know, 2683 02:02:27.359 --> 02:02:29.880 I think Bianca went through and she's like did everything 2684 02:02:30.000 --> 02:02:33.720 with every single faction and like every channel, and she 2685 02:02:34.279 --> 02:02:36.359 swears by it and she loves those type of games. 2686 02:02:36.520 --> 02:02:39.520 Like I know, it is an extremely good game. I 2687 02:02:39.680 --> 02:02:41.920 did not play it to that level, and I don't 2688 02:02:42.000 --> 02:02:43.720 know if anyone else here did. I just want to 2689 02:02:43.760 --> 02:02:46.079 like give it credit for like sure, No, it's incredibly 2690 02:02:46.199 --> 02:02:48.680 I really enjoyed the first Monster Train a lot. I 2691 02:02:48.800 --> 02:02:51.600 just didn't have I think I just had card fatigue. 2692 02:02:52.800 --> 02:02:54.399 I did a couple of runs and I did really 2693 02:02:54.520 --> 02:02:58.279 enjoy it. It wasn't quite Slay the Spire levels for me. 2694 02:02:59.000 --> 02:03:00.760 It's a bit more complicate to slay Aspire in a 2695 02:03:00.760 --> 02:03:04.199 way that I almost just find more complicated than adding 2696 02:03:04.359 --> 02:03:06.359 depth to it. I don't love the way the game 2697 02:03:06.359 --> 02:03:06.880 will looks like. 2698 02:03:06.880 --> 02:03:07.119 I don't. 2699 02:03:07.680 --> 02:03:09.800 Yeah, the art sounds not for me super fun, but 2700 02:03:10.279 --> 02:03:12.239 like I think I see the three that are gonna 2701 02:03:12.239 --> 02:03:13.600 be bordered, and it's not as good as those. 2702 02:03:13.720 --> 02:03:16.199 I think I maybe maybe I played the most of 2703 02:03:16.279 --> 02:03:20.079 this Monster Trained two and I found it to be 2704 02:03:20.279 --> 02:03:22.600 less legible than a lot of other games in its 2705 02:03:22.680 --> 02:03:26.319 class and clunkier to engage with. I still really had 2706 02:03:26.319 --> 02:03:27.840 a great time with it. I agree with you, Mike. 2707 02:03:28.399 --> 02:03:30.399 I don't like the look of it. I don't like 2708 02:03:30.479 --> 02:03:32.760 the art, and I hate that argument against like Slay 2709 02:03:32.840 --> 02:03:36.319 the Spire because I'm likes. 2710 02:03:35.039 --> 02:03:38.039 That kind of like the charms cheap flash game look work. 2711 02:03:38.319 --> 02:03:41.760 You know, it feels very It feels like a mobile 2712 02:03:41.760 --> 02:03:43.760 gotcha game, even though it's not a mobile gotcha game. 2713 02:03:44.439 --> 02:03:50.159 That's so true, Like you solve this puzzle those it 2714 02:03:50.239 --> 02:03:54.000 looks like the side of a van sometimes. Yeah, people 2715 02:03:54.000 --> 02:03:55.720 are going to be mad at us about this appeion. 2716 02:03:57.960 --> 02:04:01.600 I really like it. Yeah, we really chuck. I did 2717 02:04:01.680 --> 02:04:03.640 not like Star Vaders at all. Yeah, tell me more. 2718 02:04:05.479 --> 02:04:08.760 Whenever I get inundated and the Internet tells me you're 2719 02:04:08.760 --> 02:04:10.399 going to love this game. It has tiles in it. 2720 02:04:10.960 --> 02:04:12.960 This has tiles in it. I don't like the tiles. 2721 02:04:13.000 --> 02:04:15.479 I don't like the feel of them. The overall gameplay 2722 02:04:15.520 --> 02:04:17.520 I think is a little clunky and which too slow 2723 02:04:17.600 --> 02:04:22.359 for me. The overall progression I don't feel is that 2724 02:04:22.520 --> 02:04:26.640 great either. The character you play as Power doesn't feel 2725 02:04:26.680 --> 02:04:31.159 that great. I think overall I was just really just whelmed. Yeah. 2726 02:04:31.479 --> 02:04:33.800 I think this is another one with legibility issues where 2727 02:04:34.039 --> 02:04:35.960 I want to pick up a game and get it. 2728 02:04:36.039 --> 02:04:38.159 I wanted to get its hooks in me so I 2729 02:04:38.199 --> 02:04:41.239 can just like start rolling and not have to stop 2730 02:04:41.279 --> 02:04:43.319 and go wait, okay, what does this actually mean again? 2731 02:04:43.439 --> 02:04:45.600 In this game is one of those where I had 2732 02:04:45.600 --> 02:04:48.560 a harder time with it. Yeah. Like they definitely tried 2733 02:04:48.640 --> 02:04:52.039 to build off of like the chip synergy that happens 2734 02:04:52.119 --> 02:04:54.520 in like the Battle Network games, but they don't pull 2735 02:04:54.560 --> 02:04:55.119 it off. Well. 2736 02:04:55.279 --> 02:04:58.560 Yeah, and I just. 2737 02:05:00.199 --> 02:05:02.880 Promised something similar to Mega Man Battle Network and this 2738 02:05:03.079 --> 02:05:04.399 was not it. Yeah. 2739 02:05:04.880 --> 02:05:06.880 I only checked out the demo, but I echo with 2740 02:05:07.039 --> 02:05:09.279 Jan had to say about all the uh. 2741 02:05:09.319 --> 02:05:11.960 Did anyone else play we Can Cross That? Did anyonet 2742 02:05:11.960 --> 02:05:15.239 to play else play White Knuckle is White Knuckle. So 2743 02:05:15.239 --> 02:05:18.199 White Knuckle is a climbing game, and you start at 2744 02:05:18.239 --> 02:05:21.239 the very bottom of this like climb sewer pit thing 2745 02:05:21.479 --> 02:05:24.800 and you're just you're just hands and you're like jumping 2746 02:05:24.960 --> 02:05:27.720 and grabbing things. It's called white knuckle because like the 2747 02:05:27.760 --> 02:05:30.079 longer you hold onto something and it's like supporting your weight, 2748 02:05:30.479 --> 02:05:32.239 your hand will change color and if you let it 2749 02:05:32.279 --> 02:05:35.119 go too far you'll fall. It's like a It's one 2750 02:05:35.119 --> 02:05:36.920 of those instant of games like you fuck up, you 2751 02:05:37.199 --> 02:05:40.239 top like tumble down the pit and there's like rising 2752 02:05:40.359 --> 02:05:42.399 like acid and stuff like that that'll kill you. But 2753 02:05:42.520 --> 02:05:44.960 it really really interesting, really cool. You pick up like 2754 02:05:45.960 --> 02:05:49.239 rebar and you're like hucking that across the map and 2755 02:05:49.319 --> 02:05:51.880 then that turns into stuff that you can like tomb Raider, 2756 02:05:52.239 --> 02:05:55.600 you know, vault off of. And Yeah, I've seen people plays. 2757 02:05:55.880 --> 02:05:59.840 It's super like slick looking unique. I don't think it 2758 02:06:00.079 --> 02:06:01.439 hangs with the rest of these games. I think people 2759 02:06:01.439 --> 02:06:04.520 should check it out. It's it's frustrating, like it's almost 2760 02:06:04.600 --> 02:06:06.920 like it's got some Bennett foddyism. 2761 02:06:07.000 --> 02:06:13.399 It looks too scary. Really climbing games all like ben 2762 02:06:13.479 --> 02:06:13.880 at Foddy. 2763 02:06:14.119 --> 02:06:16.199 Yeah, really cool game. I don't think it hangs with 2764 02:06:16.239 --> 02:06:16.560 the list. 2765 02:06:16.800 --> 02:06:19.119 Okay, we could probably get rid of number now because 2766 02:06:19.239 --> 02:06:20.520 we haven't talked about Absolute yet. 2767 02:06:20.560 --> 02:06:24.680 But boy, it's good. It's a real good shouts out 2768 02:06:24.680 --> 02:06:27.640 to nubbies Number Factory, though very small team, and just 2769 02:06:28.039 --> 02:06:29.800 it's fun. It's I think everyone should check it out 2770 02:06:29.840 --> 02:06:33.319 if you haven't, if you've ever been a fan of PEG, Yeah, exactly. Yeah. 2771 02:06:33.600 --> 02:06:35.840 I get excited every time I think about how, like 2772 02:06:36.119 --> 02:06:38.399 grub you and I are still working on Absolute the 2773 02:06:38.600 --> 02:06:41.479 test runs right, Yeah, yeah. 2774 02:06:41.279 --> 02:06:43.199 I'm going to tack any moment now. 2775 02:06:43.359 --> 02:06:46.000 Yeah, I'm I'm excited to get back and play Morbid. 2776 02:06:46.039 --> 02:06:48.319 Like every run I do, I enjoy it, and like 2777 02:06:48.720 --> 02:06:50.520 I do feel like we're at the point now where 2778 02:06:50.560 --> 02:06:52.319 it's like any one of these we could just get 2779 02:06:52.359 --> 02:06:55.079 the right mix of upgrades and stuff like that, which 2780 02:06:55.119 --> 02:06:56.720 I love that with, Like you know, like Dead Cells 2781 02:06:56.840 --> 02:06:58.279 is one of those who were like, oh, I got 2782 02:06:58.319 --> 02:07:00.000 the perfect kind of close range thing, got the perfect 2783 02:07:00.079 --> 02:07:02.359 long range thing here, all these upgrades are kind of 2784 02:07:02.359 --> 02:07:04.880 clicking together and with the two player element, like and 2785 02:07:04.960 --> 02:07:06.560 it's like, oh, if we both have these synergies or 2786 02:07:06.600 --> 02:07:08.000 I'm doing this thing that's getting all this mona and 2787 02:07:08.079 --> 02:07:10.800 we're both getting all our supers all the time. It's uh, 2788 02:07:11.199 --> 02:07:13.000 I think we both love the old beat them up 2789 02:07:13.199 --> 02:07:15.439 arcade style, you know, the old X Men, Simpsons, you 2790 02:07:15.479 --> 02:07:17.920 know turtal Lie more now than ever, like exactly, but 2791 02:07:18.119 --> 02:07:21.239 I think this is the most meaningful evolution of that 2792 02:07:21.319 --> 02:07:23.840 gameplay because like across the board with all these beat 2793 02:07:23.880 --> 02:07:27.079 them ups, we are finding new ways to introduce longevity 2794 02:07:27.479 --> 02:07:29.520 and replayability and things like that into it. But like 2795 02:07:29.640 --> 02:07:32.199 it feels more meaningful and ebsolm than anything else I've 2796 02:07:32.199 --> 02:07:33.119 played in recent years. 2797 02:07:33.199 --> 02:07:34.720 Yeah, And I mean I think you're right there the 2798 02:07:34.800 --> 02:07:37.520 way you said it, Like the rogue light stuff unlocks 2799 02:07:38.119 --> 02:07:41.000 the potential of these kinds of games to make a build, 2800 02:07:41.199 --> 02:07:43.840 and the builds can be kind of overpowered sometimes are 2801 02:07:43.840 --> 02:07:46.960 crazy or not like or like kind of break stuff 2802 02:07:47.000 --> 02:07:49.640 a little bit because it's going to be one run 2803 02:07:49.720 --> 02:07:51.079 and if it's if you get it on a run, 2804 02:07:51.399 --> 02:07:52.800 you had good luck, and now you have all this 2805 02:07:53.159 --> 02:07:55.520 all these awesome abilities you wouldn't have otherwise, And you 2806 02:07:55.600 --> 02:07:57.520 kind of can't make a traditional beat them up that 2807 02:07:57.640 --> 02:08:00.760 way because it has to be sort of balanced and predictable, 2808 02:08:01.079 --> 02:08:03.600 and so like this is like, oh wow, the fun 2809 02:08:03.640 --> 02:08:05.479 stuff I always wished I could do and to beat 2810 02:08:05.520 --> 02:08:07.199 them up. They've given it to me here. I just 2811 02:08:07.279 --> 02:08:09.319 got to get the right build. And then you start 2812 02:08:09.359 --> 02:08:11.119 thinking about that and what you're saying about, like, oh, 2813 02:08:11.279 --> 02:08:13.680 Dan's dropping a ton of mana all the time. 2814 02:08:14.479 --> 02:08:16.960 I'm just gonna like try to build my guy in 2815 02:08:16.960 --> 02:08:17.520 switch away to bro. 2816 02:08:17.600 --> 02:08:20.119 I'm always popping off my ultimates because I know there's 2817 02:08:20.119 --> 02:08:21.319 always going to be more on the ground for me 2818 02:08:21.359 --> 02:08:23.079 to pick up to do more, and just thinking about 2819 02:08:23.079 --> 02:08:25.680 it that way, it's like, oh, there's some extra depth here, 2820 02:08:25.760 --> 02:08:28.640 specifically specifically because they knew how to handle the genre 2821 02:08:28.720 --> 02:08:29.960 that they've attached to beat them up. 2822 02:08:30.039 --> 02:08:32.640 And how smart is the map too, where it's out 2823 02:08:32.720 --> 02:08:36.439 branching branch Arek's like you will see these objectives. It's like, 2824 02:08:36.479 --> 02:08:38.279 oh over here, Oh, we got to feed a few 2825 02:08:38.319 --> 02:08:40.399 more enemies to this furnace. Alse there's a key hidden 2826 02:08:40.439 --> 02:08:41.960 in the swamp up here, Like which way do we 2827 02:08:42.000 --> 02:08:44.399 want to go? And like what a great way to introduce, Like, 2828 02:08:44.439 --> 02:08:45.760 well we got to do another run. Now, we got 2829 02:08:45.880 --> 02:08:47.439 let's go up that way because yeah, we did this 2830 02:08:47.520 --> 02:08:49.039 down here, I wonder what that unlocks up here. We 2831 02:08:49.079 --> 02:08:51.199 got to kill those sisters down there. Like, it's not 2832 02:08:51.359 --> 02:08:53.319 a game where it's like if we were to win 2833 02:08:53.439 --> 02:08:55.960 the next run, I don't think I'd be like, well, 2834 02:08:56.000 --> 02:08:58.439 we beat it. It's like there's clearly paths and stuff 2835 02:08:58.520 --> 02:08:58.800 going on. 2836 02:08:59.039 --> 02:09:01.640 It's like, you know, stuff that is interesting in there 2837 02:09:01.680 --> 02:09:03.520 to do, right, Like it's set up like a Hades 2838 02:09:03.680 --> 02:09:03.840 like that. 2839 02:09:04.079 --> 02:09:05.800 And outside of like maybe one run where I think 2840 02:09:05.840 --> 02:09:08.039 I tried the frog or whatever, like, we've been the 2841 02:09:08.079 --> 02:09:10.319 same two characters and they are so fun and it's like, 2842 02:09:10.359 --> 02:09:12.119 you know, we see that cider character, so it's like 2843 02:09:12.159 --> 02:09:14.600 I want to explore that too. And at the same time, 2844 02:09:14.720 --> 02:09:16.600 it's not like I think there's gonna be people who 2845 02:09:16.920 --> 02:09:19.319 are turned off by roguelikes in general. 2846 02:09:19.840 --> 02:09:22.279 I would be like this and like other Obviously there's 2847 02:09:22.279 --> 02:09:23.840 been other ones where it's like so easy to recommend, 2848 02:09:23.960 --> 02:09:26.000 like Hades and stuff like that. It's really easy to 2849 02:09:26.000 --> 02:09:27.880 recommend this one because none of that, Like this is 2850 02:09:27.920 --> 02:09:29.680 a game you were going to replay anyhow. It's a 2851 02:09:29.720 --> 02:09:31.239 beat them up. You're gonna kind of start from the 2852 02:09:31.279 --> 02:09:32.560 beginning a lot though. That's just kind of how you 2853 02:09:32.600 --> 02:09:34.640 play those kinds of games, and all of it's just 2854 02:09:34.720 --> 02:09:38.079 sort of additive. It doesn't like make you feel like, oh, 2855 02:09:38.119 --> 02:09:40.000 I got to grind to unlock this stuff. It's like, 2856 02:09:40.039 --> 02:09:41.920 now you're gonna top out. You're gonna max level this 2857 02:09:42.000 --> 02:09:43.720 character pretty quickly. You're not gonna have to like play 2858 02:09:43.720 --> 02:09:45.439 it over and over again just to get this stuff. 2859 02:09:45.600 --> 02:09:47.520 You're gonna play it four or five times, and you're 2860 02:09:47.520 --> 02:09:49.800 gonna have most of the tools for the character you selected. 2861 02:09:50.000 --> 02:09:51.680 And that's the thing that like in this genre, I 2862 02:09:51.720 --> 02:09:55.079 think Chuck when describing Monster Train mentioned like legibility as 2863 02:09:55.159 --> 02:09:57.119 far as like there's a lot of okay, so what 2864 02:09:57.399 --> 02:09:59.159 and what is persistent and what it is not like 2865 02:09:59.279 --> 02:10:01.359 you know, it can murky with a lot of games 2866 02:10:01.399 --> 02:10:04.680 in this genre. With this one, it's so obvious and 2867 02:10:04.760 --> 02:10:06.520 it's so it's like, oh, this is the currency, come back, Okay, 2868 02:10:06.520 --> 02:10:07.960 I can upgrade that. Now I can you know, ten 2869 02:10:08.000 --> 02:10:10.560 percent more health whatever, I unlock this super tack it all. 2870 02:10:10.760 --> 02:10:13.800 It spells it out very just elegantly and plainly, and 2871 02:10:14.079 --> 02:10:15.600 every time you load it up, it's just a fun 2872 02:10:15.640 --> 02:10:17.000 beat them up and then you go back and spend 2873 02:10:17.000 --> 02:10:18.399 a little bit of money. You're a little bit stronger. 2874 02:10:18.520 --> 02:10:20.359 Oh this new person's in the hub world. It's all 2875 02:10:20.960 --> 02:10:23.199 very legible. There's not a lot of like, wait, do 2876 02:10:23.319 --> 02:10:24.000 we do we lose that? 2877 02:10:24.159 --> 02:10:24.439 Do we not? 2878 02:10:24.760 --> 02:10:24.800 Like? 2879 02:10:25.039 --> 02:10:27.119 It's uh, I really think it's one of the best 2880 02:10:27.199 --> 02:10:30.279 rogue Lades I've ever played. And then there's Blueprints. 2881 02:10:30.720 --> 02:10:35.279 Yeah, oh god, I fucking thinking about Blueprints generational talent. 2882 02:10:36.079 --> 02:10:39.159 Have you ever seen the whiplat like the audience turn 2883 02:10:39.279 --> 02:10:40.239 on something so quick? 2884 02:10:41.359 --> 02:10:43.800 Like I get people like like Sean who like, this 2885 02:10:43.920 --> 02:10:45.279 is just not my thing. I get that. 2886 02:10:45.560 --> 02:10:48.000 I'm surprised by the people who are like I find 2887 02:10:48.079 --> 02:10:49.880 this game frustrating even though it should be my thing, 2888 02:10:49.920 --> 02:10:52.399 because I think the bad luck places into it too much. 2889 02:10:52.680 --> 02:10:53.479 I just never had that. 2890 02:10:54.159 --> 02:10:56.039 Is that The argument a lot of people is that, well, 2891 02:10:56.079 --> 02:10:58.880 sometimes the luck just kills your run, and I'm like, well, 2892 02:10:59.000 --> 02:11:01.399 you probably are still doing other things in that run, 2893 02:11:02.159 --> 02:11:04.760 always going to get to door forty seven or forty 2894 02:11:04.800 --> 02:11:07.319 six or feel like you're close to it, but you're 2895 02:11:07.439 --> 02:11:09.880 figuring out other puzzles, you're unlocking new rooms, you. 2896 02:11:10.199 --> 02:11:10.760 Went to the garage. 2897 02:11:10.960 --> 02:11:14.239 I can believe here. I never had what I thought 2898 02:11:14.439 --> 02:11:15.800 was a wasted run in the game. 2899 02:11:15.920 --> 02:11:20.279 Out of our remaining three here with Hades two, Absolomon 2900 02:11:20.520 --> 02:11:25.239 Blueprints and Blueprints has no combat. You'd never see another 2901 02:11:25.319 --> 02:11:26.079 person right other. 2902 02:11:26.000 --> 02:11:28.560 Than you through photo combating with the numbers, like you 2903 02:11:28.680 --> 02:11:31.159 have to be like play it as a probabilistic problem 2904 02:11:31.319 --> 02:11:34.399 of like I begin to understand those chances of me 2905 02:11:34.479 --> 02:11:36.800 getting these things, so I need to maximize my chances. 2906 02:11:36.880 --> 02:11:38.279 That's all it is. You're fighting the map. But like 2907 02:11:38.359 --> 02:11:41.600 I think I felt the most of a rush and 2908 02:11:41.760 --> 02:11:45.000 like anxiety playing through blueprints because I'm going from run 2909 02:11:45.079 --> 02:11:47.920 to run, and then like once you start unlocking more 2910 02:11:48.239 --> 02:11:52.920 knowledge or you visit like the Fortune Teller and uh Alzara, 2911 02:11:54.000 --> 02:11:56.119 and then it's like, okay, there's more of this lord 2912 02:11:56.199 --> 02:11:59.520 that I got unlocked, or you just make it to 2913 02:12:00.960 --> 02:12:04.079 whatever the objective of your run is, Like it just 2914 02:12:04.159 --> 02:12:07.119 felt so exhilarating. And then like sometimes when you find 2915 02:12:07.159 --> 02:12:11.520 something out on accident, like when the mind Shaft and 2916 02:12:11.560 --> 02:12:14.600 then I noticed like the door was blocked off, and 2917 02:12:14.680 --> 02:12:16.960 they're like, Okay, i'll make a room on the other 2918 02:12:17.039 --> 02:12:20.199 side of this, we'll see what happens. Like it's just 2919 02:12:20.279 --> 02:12:23.640 like nothing. But like just like discovery after discovery, even 2920 02:12:23.680 --> 02:12:28.159 after you technically beat the game, there's still really discovery, 2921 02:12:28.439 --> 02:12:29.000 and like, you. 2922 02:12:29.039 --> 02:12:31.279 Know, I didn't do a ton of the post game 2923 02:12:31.359 --> 02:12:33.840 stuff necessarily, but like I don't feel bad about that, 2924 02:12:34.319 --> 02:12:36.600 Like I think just being gaming in credits is a 2925 02:12:36.800 --> 02:12:39.960 perfectly good off ramp. You know, maybe something I go 2926 02:12:40.000 --> 02:12:41.439 back to that stuff, I'm amst more interested if I 2927 02:12:41.560 --> 02:12:44.079 go back to like really work on doing a Day. 2928 02:12:44.000 --> 02:12:46.279 One run, which I see people do and it's like, 2929 02:12:46.399 --> 02:12:48.239 oh yeah. And it's like, just to be clear, there 2930 02:12:48.279 --> 02:12:50.439 are so much after. 2931 02:12:50.279 --> 02:12:53.720 Getting time, the lore, which I think is really good, 2932 02:12:54.039 --> 02:12:56.560 that could just be more background stuff right away, like 2933 02:12:56.760 --> 02:12:59.079 you can engage with it or not, becomes more important 2934 02:12:59.079 --> 02:13:00.800 I think in the post game for actually figuring out 2935 02:13:00.800 --> 02:13:01.239 what's going on. 2936 02:13:01.640 --> 02:13:02.800 I think for me, it's uh. 2937 02:13:03.119 --> 02:13:05.199 With when we got Hades one, that was sort of 2938 02:13:05.359 --> 02:13:10.159 like unlocking the roguelike genre for people being like, we 2939 02:13:10.279 --> 02:13:12.319 are going to give you a narrative to hold, to 2940 02:13:12.359 --> 02:13:14.600 hold your hand to, like every time you come back, 2941 02:13:14.640 --> 02:13:17.439 you're gonna talk to these characters and that will literally progress. 2942 02:13:17.720 --> 02:13:19.560 They understand you're in a loop and they're going to 2943 02:13:19.600 --> 02:13:21.039 talk to you in that way, and they're going to 2944 02:13:21.119 --> 02:13:22.399 keep you in here to kind of give you a 2945 02:13:22.479 --> 02:13:24.359 safe thing to hold on to to get you used 2946 02:13:24.399 --> 02:13:26.039 to all this other stuff. And it's like, oh, Wow, 2947 02:13:26.079 --> 02:13:28.159 that was a real big jump forward, a leap forward 2948 02:13:28.199 --> 02:13:31.199 for this genre. This sort of like takes Rogue Likes 2949 02:13:31.319 --> 02:13:34.239 and applies it to miss and all these other kind 2950 02:13:34.239 --> 02:13:37.960 of puzzle games and reinvigorates it in a similar way 2951 02:13:38.199 --> 02:13:41.279 where it's like this just like takes an idea and 2952 02:13:42.039 --> 02:13:43.920 enables you to think about it in a different way 2953 02:13:44.399 --> 02:13:46.720 and kind of complicates it while also giving you a 2954 02:13:46.840 --> 02:13:49.880 chance to really dive deep and simplifies it in so 2955 02:13:49.960 --> 02:13:52.119 many ways because now you're going through it a bunch 2956 02:13:52.159 --> 02:13:53.880 of times, you come up with ideas and try them out. 2957 02:13:53.960 --> 02:13:56.039 It's just incredibly wealthy and it's. 2958 02:13:55.840 --> 02:13:57.560 Just insane, Like you know, there's so much of this 2959 02:13:57.840 --> 02:13:59.720 but Roguelike. The fact that they were able to do 2960 02:14:00.239 --> 02:14:05.000 Missed but Roguelike and worked incredibly game for us, Mike, 2961 02:14:05.560 --> 02:14:07.079 it'smaffling how well it works. 2962 02:14:08.239 --> 02:14:11.520 I think what's so unique about this one too, it's 2963 02:14:11.560 --> 02:14:14.880 not just that combination, but just that what you're getting 2964 02:14:14.880 --> 02:14:16.960 between runs. Sure, you can like set yourself up to 2965 02:14:17.000 --> 02:14:19.680 get more gems or more money, but you're getting the 2966 02:14:19.800 --> 02:14:23.560 knowledge and that's what's really helping you get better at 2967 02:14:23.640 --> 02:14:24.000 this game. 2968 02:14:24.319 --> 02:14:26.239 So many wastes of the end to you use different 2969 02:14:26.279 --> 02:14:27.039 parts of your novel. 2970 02:14:27.119 --> 02:14:29.520 And I think that probably frustrates people that that's the 2971 02:14:29.560 --> 02:14:32.199 way you progress that like honestly, yeah, having a notebook 2972 02:14:32.279 --> 02:14:40.800 open and so Dan anecdote involving you. So you you 2973 02:14:41.079 --> 02:14:43.640 had a copy of this game before it came out, 2974 02:14:44.119 --> 02:14:46.000 and I remember you wade into a tech issue. You're like, oh, 2975 02:14:46.560 --> 02:14:48.800 lost on my progress, and I was like, I was 2976 02:14:48.880 --> 02:14:50.079 kind of devastated for you. I was like, I was 2977 02:14:50.119 --> 02:14:51.880 excited about this game. I was like, oh, fuck, he's 2978 02:14:51.880 --> 02:14:53.520 gonna have like so our opinion of this and like 2979 02:14:53.560 --> 02:14:55.159 really look forward to it. We got on a call 2980 02:14:55.199 --> 02:14:57.720 we couldn't figure out your problem. Then you're like, it's okay. 2981 02:14:58.159 --> 02:15:00.520 I like I've learned so much. I can just get 2982 02:15:00.600 --> 02:15:01.800 right back to where I was. And then you like 2983 02:15:02.199 --> 02:15:04.880 you cleaned up and got that done, and like, well, 2984 02:15:04.920 --> 02:15:06.319 I mean, for. 2985 02:15:06.399 --> 02:15:08.159 The sake of accuracy, the creator of the game did 2986 02:15:08.239 --> 02:15:10.760 send me a custom made save file where he got 2987 02:15:11.000 --> 02:15:13.159 back how many coins I had and my coin, so 2988 02:15:13.279 --> 02:15:15.960 like there was a little help there, but like also 2989 02:15:16.239 --> 02:15:18.000 it was not for not like even if he had 2990 02:15:18.039 --> 02:15:20.680 not done that, like it would not have been hard 2991 02:15:20.720 --> 02:15:21.960 to get back. It's like, oh, now I know this 2992 02:15:22.079 --> 02:15:24.199 room does this or this puzzles here, like he helped 2993 02:15:24.239 --> 02:15:26.039 me with like the coin limit stuff that you can't 2994 02:15:26.119 --> 02:15:28.920 just do through knowledge, But yeah, I would have got 2995 02:15:28.960 --> 02:15:29.600 back very quickly. 2996 02:15:30.279 --> 02:15:32.560 And when you told me that, I was like, Oh, 2997 02:15:33.039 --> 02:15:36.159 that's what this game is. It's like you can just 2998 02:15:36.319 --> 02:15:39.079 like take everything you know and just like it's not 2999 02:15:39.239 --> 02:15:40.000 a wild Yeah. 3000 02:15:40.079 --> 02:15:43.720 That's why I'm so torn on this category here with 3001 02:15:43.800 --> 02:15:45.840 these you know, we got Hades two, I have Solomon blueprints. 3002 02:15:45.880 --> 02:15:48.399 I adore all these games, and I think there is 3003 02:15:48.439 --> 02:15:50.479 a real argument you can make for Hades two being 3004 02:15:50.560 --> 02:15:52.159 the best rogue light of all time. 3005 02:15:52.279 --> 02:15:55.159 So that's the thing. We haven't actually talked about Hades 3006 02:15:55.199 --> 02:15:56.640 two yet, and I kind of wanted to get this 3007 02:15:56.720 --> 02:15:58.359 in there, just like at the top, because I don't 3008 02:15:58.399 --> 02:15:59.960 have as much to say as the rest of your 3009 02:16:00.039 --> 02:16:02.760 eyes on all these games because I don't really like 3010 02:16:03.039 --> 02:16:06.319 roguelikes and rogue lights that much. You know, when you 3011 02:16:06.359 --> 02:16:08.319 guys talk about the really big ones that really hit 3012 02:16:08.359 --> 02:16:10.239 with you, guys, I try them out and some hit, 3013 02:16:10.399 --> 02:16:13.960 like you know, Vampire Survivors, Blatro and stuff. Most don't. 3014 02:16:14.079 --> 02:16:15.000 It's just not my thing. 3015 02:16:15.720 --> 02:16:20.000 But Hades two, after I didn't like Hades one because 3016 02:16:20.039 --> 02:16:23.239 you know anything from zagarais not being a super likable 3017 02:16:23.319 --> 02:16:26.239 character of me to just a lot of the roguelike 3018 02:16:26.359 --> 02:16:29.479 trappings that I don't really get into. Hades two is 3019 02:16:29.520 --> 02:16:33.280 such a friendly game, is so welcoming to people like 3020 02:16:33.440 --> 02:16:34.879 me that they want to get in the door of 3021 02:16:34.959 --> 02:16:37.520 this stuff while still having all the roguelikes stuff. 3022 02:16:38.079 --> 02:16:40.760 I love Hades too. Like it went like, I don't 3023 02:16:40.840 --> 02:16:43.719 like roguelikes, I don't like Haities one. Hades two is 3024 02:16:43.760 --> 02:16:46.319 in my top ten. I think it's a fantastic game, 3025 02:16:46.799 --> 02:16:49.000 and it sounds like it still appeals to you guys 3026 02:16:49.040 --> 02:16:49.479 in the way that. 3027 02:16:49.479 --> 02:16:52.399 I like to definitely in my top ten. It's funny 3028 02:16:52.440 --> 02:16:54.520 because when I was playing it, I was kind of like, 3029 02:16:54.600 --> 02:16:56.440 this might be one of my favorite games ever for 3030 02:16:56.559 --> 02:16:59.040 some reason, Like, but like, once I was done with it, 3031 02:16:59.120 --> 02:17:01.360 I don't. I'm not thinking about it quite as much. 3032 02:17:01.479 --> 02:17:03.840 I think one of the reasons for that it's it 3033 02:17:03.959 --> 02:17:06.159 is so friendly, which I think is a ninety nine 3034 02:17:06.159 --> 02:17:09.360 percent positive, But it's it doesn't there's. 3035 02:17:09.239 --> 02:17:10.479 Not a lot of friction tension. 3036 02:17:10.600 --> 02:17:12.799 It's it's less of the sickoshit that, which is what 3037 02:17:12.879 --> 02:17:15.079 you guys kind of get into something like that. 3038 02:17:15.479 --> 02:17:18.399 It's just it's just so easy to play that it 3039 02:17:18.520 --> 02:17:21.440 goes down like like a very easy meal. But that's 3040 02:17:21.479 --> 02:17:22.479 not gonna be hard to digest it. 3041 02:17:22.600 --> 02:17:23.840 And that's part of why I was saying that I 3042 02:17:24.000 --> 02:17:25.440 was torn on it is like I think you can 3043 02:17:25.600 --> 02:17:27.879 make the argument that it is the best rogue light 3044 02:17:27.920 --> 02:17:30.920 of all time. But also it's in the way that like, Okay, 3045 02:17:30.959 --> 02:17:32.959 I think like Tears the Kingdom is many in many 3046 02:17:33.000 --> 02:17:35.079 ways a better game than Break a while, but it's 3047 02:17:35.120 --> 02:17:37.040 impossible to kind of replicate that first film. So like 3048 02:17:37.280 --> 02:17:41.000 something like blue Prints this year sticks with me more 3049 02:17:41.120 --> 02:17:43.319 because it's like I've never played anything like this. This 3050 02:17:43.520 --> 02:17:46.239 really just blew me away this year. And Hades too, 3051 02:17:46.360 --> 02:17:48.959 it's like it's mostly what I expected. It's just it's 3052 02:17:49.000 --> 02:17:52.159 a better version of Hades one, which is a really cheeseburger. 3053 02:17:52.280 --> 02:17:55.120 Yeah, play a lot of Hades won, And maybe there's 3054 02:17:55.120 --> 02:17:58.159 a bit of I have played a lot of Hades now. 3055 02:17:58.280 --> 02:18:02.680 Yeah, it's a little bit of Like maybe Fatigue Hates 3056 02:18:02.719 --> 02:18:04.639 two might be above Blueprints on my top ten. 3057 02:18:04.719 --> 02:18:05.000 I don't. 3058 02:18:05.000 --> 02:18:08.399 I haven't decided yet, but like, I think Blueprints was 3059 02:18:08.559 --> 02:18:11.879 a bigger and more important roguelike experience. 3060 02:18:11.920 --> 02:18:13.879 You hear that we didn't know you exactly. We did 3061 02:18:13.920 --> 02:18:16.040 not know this game was prob there is. So I'm 3062 02:18:16.040 --> 02:18:18.360 a big board game guy. I think you guys know that. 3063 02:18:18.559 --> 02:18:21.040 But there's this board game called Betrayal at House on 3064 02:18:21.079 --> 02:18:23.879 the Hill, right, and it's a cooperative game. You and 3065 02:18:23.959 --> 02:18:26.479 your buddies are exploring like a haunted house. 3066 02:18:26.600 --> 02:18:28.639 Right. But the way the gameplay is is you don't 3067 02:18:28.639 --> 02:18:30.639 set up the board ahead of time. You have tiles, 3068 02:18:30.719 --> 02:18:32.600 and you're laying the tiles out and then going into 3069 02:18:32.639 --> 02:18:35.200 the room. Something happens. Then you're doing the same and 3070 02:18:35.239 --> 02:18:37.360 you could choose which direction, which room you go into. 3071 02:18:37.479 --> 02:18:39.360 And I was like, holy fuck, they did this in 3072 02:18:39.479 --> 02:18:42.079 a video game and it's missed and it's roguelike and 3073 02:18:42.159 --> 02:18:45.719 it rules so hard. I think what they've done here, 3074 02:18:45.799 --> 02:18:48.840 the elements that they've pulled in Blueprints so stellar. I 3075 02:18:48.959 --> 02:18:51.399 love Hades too. I think it's gonna it probably will 3076 02:18:51.440 --> 02:18:54.639 be higher than Blueprints on my personal top ten lists 3077 02:18:54.680 --> 02:18:58.760 this year. But I think that's more like the combat 3078 02:18:58.879 --> 02:19:01.360 and that gameplay elevation the Hades two and not necessarily 3079 02:19:01.399 --> 02:19:03.600 the rogue like elements. The way that Blue Prince is, 3080 02:19:03.719 --> 02:19:06.120 it's just so much about Blueprints, just really speaking Blueprints 3081 02:19:06.159 --> 02:19:08.040 can be the better Rogue like even if you like 3082 02:19:08.159 --> 02:19:10.239 more things in general about Hades two. 3083 02:19:10.319 --> 02:19:12.200 Yeah, I mean I'll keep playing Hades two and doing 3084 02:19:12.239 --> 02:19:14.200 more runs than I probably won't do more blue Prints 3085 02:19:14.280 --> 02:19:15.840 just because the nature of the game is like, well, 3086 02:19:15.879 --> 02:19:17.159 I have the knowledge, I got to where I want 3087 02:19:17.200 --> 02:19:18.799 to be, you know, like I don't necessarily want to 3088 02:19:18.799 --> 02:19:21.879 go further in the end game. But Blueprints is I 3089 02:19:22.040 --> 02:19:24.799 think a more notable game this year. Yeah, and in 3090 02:19:24.920 --> 02:19:28.239 this genre yeaheah not. I feel like it's between these 3091 02:19:28.280 --> 02:19:30.360 two now. But I do want to just a solemn 3092 02:19:30.399 --> 02:19:35.079 again for the reasons when you said it there, Hey, everyone, 3093 02:19:35.120 --> 02:19:37.159 you should play all three of these. All three will 3094 02:19:37.159 --> 02:19:39.079 be It was a great year for Rogue Lights. 3095 02:19:39.319 --> 02:19:42.520 Also, it just became apparent to me after doing Monday 3096 02:19:42.559 --> 02:19:45.120 Mornings Missed with Mitch, how much stuff, how much myst 3097 02:19:45.159 --> 02:19:47.399 has inspired other games. Y, Yeah. 3098 02:19:48.559 --> 02:19:50.399 That's one of my big goals of doing It's like, 3099 02:19:50.479 --> 02:19:52.280 I don't think many people know that Myst was an 3100 02:19:52.280 --> 02:19:53.360 important game anymore. 3101 02:19:54.520 --> 02:19:57.840 All Right, I'm gonna put a star next to Blue Prince. Yeah, 3102 02:19:58.680 --> 02:20:02.000 here's your crown, little guy. The best roguelike runners up 3103 02:20:02.000 --> 02:20:06.600 Haities two, Absolom Runners up with blue Prints as the winner. 3104 02:20:07.680 --> 02:20:10.680 We're gonna go to Blue King Gang. 3105 02:20:10.719 --> 02:20:12.319 We're gonna go take a bricky break. 3106 02:20:12.920 --> 02:20:16.680 Is wearing a blue hoody Oh, we're the Blue Princes. 3107 02:20:20.520 --> 02:20:24.920 Because the next category and the final category for day 3108 02:20:25.040 --> 02:20:28.799 three Giant Bombs Game of the Year is best Moment 3109 02:20:29.200 --> 02:20:29.760 or It. 3110 02:20:29.799 --> 02:20:32.520 Might include spoilers. It will include spoilers. 3111 02:20:32.559 --> 02:20:34.840 So if you want listening now, just keep listening, just 3112 02:20:35.040 --> 02:20:35.280 run it. 3113 02:20:35.319 --> 02:20:37.639 All those Matroid people are gonna be fine. Mike, Oh good, 3114 02:20:38.000 --> 02:20:39.280 I'm really worried about that. 3115 02:20:40.000 --> 02:20:48.319 We'll see after this. Holy smokes Gang, we are at 3116 02:20:48.680 --> 02:20:51.959 the final category for day three of Giant Bomb's Game 3117 02:20:52.040 --> 02:20:54.280 of the Year twenty twenty five, shouts out once again 3118 02:20:54.319 --> 02:20:56.239 to where dear friends over at main Gear for letting 3119 02:20:56.280 --> 02:20:58.680 us use the space. We promise we're keeping it clean. 3120 02:20:58.879 --> 02:21:02.200 We promise where to God if there's any candy rappers 3121 02:21:02.280 --> 02:21:06.159 or bagel seeds anywhere, it wasn't us, It was not gang. 3122 02:21:06.639 --> 02:21:10.159 Final category of the day is best Moment or sequence. 3123 02:21:10.559 --> 02:21:13.559 And everyone at home, this is just gonna be filled 3124 02:21:13.600 --> 02:21:16.040 with spoilers. If you were sensitive to that, get out. 3125 02:21:16.280 --> 02:21:19.520 We'll see you later, all right, good, but keep on 3126 02:21:19.680 --> 02:21:21.879 listening to the podcast. Just put on mute or something. 3127 02:21:21.959 --> 02:21:25.120 If you're watching the video, keep playing on two more computers. 3128 02:21:25.239 --> 02:21:29.520 Repeat it please, going down the categories and some of 3129 02:21:29.600 --> 02:21:33.360 these the nominees' names on the list are spoilers within themselves. 3130 02:21:33.440 --> 02:21:35.479 So this was it. This is your last chance. You've 3131 02:21:35.479 --> 02:21:39.200 been warned here, that's how it goes. You've been warned, right. Oh, actually, 3132 02:21:39.360 --> 02:21:44.520 there you go, get out now you want. First nominee 3133 02:21:44.680 --> 02:21:49.479 is keep Up from Dispatch, entering volt Forge, getting the 3134 02:21:49.600 --> 02:21:53.200 double jump in Hollid Night, Silk Song, King k Rule, 3135 02:21:53.520 --> 02:21:57.920 Donkey Kong Bananza, Die Hardman Dance, Just straining to Pizza 3136 02:21:58.000 --> 02:22:02.280 Chef Death, straining to Goosta how Death, Claire's your Expedition 3137 02:22:02.399 --> 02:22:06.479 thirty three Reaching the Peak Eighties two Conflagration Death Training 3138 02:22:06.520 --> 02:22:10.399 two Room forty six blue Prints ed boone comes up 3139 02:22:10.479 --> 02:22:13.959 with a spear total combat legacy. Oh it's a sonic 3140 02:22:14.079 --> 02:22:17.920 unleashed like silent hill Fit. 3141 02:22:17.920 --> 02:22:18.879 Wait what yeh? 3142 02:22:20.760 --> 02:22:23.920 There we go, rescuing that truck with friends in roadcraft 3143 02:22:23.959 --> 02:22:27.239 and then driving all the trucks into water roadcraft deflate, 3144 02:22:27.520 --> 02:22:31.479 defeating the band breaker Baby Steps, Mommy, Baby Steps. Jeff 3145 02:22:31.520 --> 02:22:34.840 Grubb murdering Dan Ryker with a confetti cannon spaghetifying that 3146 02:22:34.959 --> 02:22:37.879 guy in mind's eye not getting hit in a boss 3147 02:22:38.000 --> 02:22:41.879 fight from Sectory, getting married and living life in Anne 3148 02:22:41.959 --> 02:22:45.719 Roger approaching Rainbow Road in Mario Kart World, Mike and 3149 02:22:45.840 --> 02:22:48.239 Dan monkey fart into Grub's monkey face at the end 3150 02:22:48.280 --> 02:22:51.399 of the world. That's from a game, not just in 3151 02:22:51.479 --> 02:22:55.920 real life. Kaylas carrying off a group of killers and 3152 02:22:56.040 --> 02:22:59.600 arc raiders under Bed meeting with Nicky Grubb and Sean 3153 02:22:59.680 --> 02:23:03.120 and Reed do main dance death straining too. Okay, this 3154 02:23:03.239 --> 02:23:04.399 is a fact category. Yeah. 3155 02:23:05.799 --> 02:23:07.639 Could I ask you right now to pick your favorite 3156 02:23:07.639 --> 02:23:08.600 desk stranding moments. 3157 02:23:09.159 --> 02:23:09.360 Yeah. 3158 02:23:09.399 --> 02:23:11.520 First of all, let's kill pizza chef, because I think 3159 02:23:11.600 --> 02:23:14.680 you guys just assassinated me with the bringing up that 3160 02:23:14.680 --> 02:23:16.159 if it was in Deadpool or something, i'd hate it. 3161 02:23:17.680 --> 02:23:20.200 I was like, oh my god, I feel like this 3162 02:23:20.719 --> 02:23:21.600 loll so random. 3163 02:23:23.760 --> 02:23:25.840 I believe yeah moment. 3164 02:23:27.840 --> 02:23:30.840 He's so right. Yeah yeah, and take it off. Yeah 3165 02:23:30.840 --> 02:23:31.760 I love it, But you're. 3166 02:23:31.639 --> 02:23:34.360 Right death training. I don't think any of these are 3167 02:23:34.399 --> 02:23:37.079 gonna make it right, like I'm the desk randing guy. 3168 02:23:37.280 --> 02:23:38.200 Maybe Domain Dance. 3169 02:23:38.239 --> 02:23:40.280 I know people like that. I really like this training too. 3170 02:23:40.440 --> 02:23:42.040 I love some of these sequences. 3171 02:23:42.600 --> 02:23:46.879 Then let me Okay, if I'm give the fireworks going off, 3172 02:23:47.040 --> 02:23:49.079 that's the one. Conflagration is that so I want to 3173 02:23:49.120 --> 02:23:51.840 take off die Hardman dance. I like that just because 3174 02:23:51.840 --> 02:23:54.440 it's just I don't even want to explain it. It's 3175 02:23:54.719 --> 02:23:56.079 I know people don't like it. It's not gonna hang. 3176 02:23:56.399 --> 02:23:56.520 Uh. 3177 02:23:57.840 --> 02:24:00.200 Conflagration is the one that I described when I was 3178 02:24:00.239 --> 02:24:00.879 at the preview event. 3179 02:24:01.200 --> 02:24:03.520 That's like most style, Like there's so much. 3180 02:24:03.600 --> 02:24:05.639 It's the coolest looking thing I think I've ever seen 3181 02:24:05.639 --> 02:24:06.239 in a video game. 3182 02:24:06.280 --> 02:24:08.000 It's stunning, like to look at. 3183 02:24:07.959 --> 02:24:09.399 Yeah, when I was walking the bathroom of the preve 3184 02:24:09.399 --> 02:24:10.600 event when I wasn't there yet and I would just 3185 02:24:10.600 --> 02:24:11.719 cashed out of the corner of my ID be like, 3186 02:24:11.799 --> 02:24:13.280 what is happening on those screens? 3187 02:24:13.600 --> 02:24:14.760 I had never seen anything like that. 3188 02:24:14.840 --> 02:24:16.280 For those that don't know, it's like one of the 3189 02:24:16.399 --> 02:24:19.719 Neil segments where it's like it's basically the equivalent of 3190 02:24:19.799 --> 02:24:22.000 the Magemicals and segments from the first game, where it's 3191 02:24:22.000 --> 02:24:25.600 like all kind of this alternate, weird spirit dimension and 3192 02:24:25.920 --> 02:24:28.799 it's like a data DA lists more taste celebration in 3193 02:24:28.840 --> 02:24:32.280 the streets, but there's all these spirits and husks of 3194 02:24:32.319 --> 02:24:35.840 people kind of walking aimlessly and amidst all the streets 3195 02:24:35.879 --> 02:24:38.799 and buildings and stuff, there are like Ferris wheels covered 3196 02:24:38.840 --> 02:24:41.440 in fireworks. There's fireworks going off like crazy all in 3197 02:24:41.520 --> 02:24:43.639 the sky. It is just NonStop, even on a base 3198 02:24:43.719 --> 02:24:47.239 PS five, the amount of like particle effects and just 3199 02:24:47.719 --> 02:24:49.799 all these fireworks going off at night. Like I can't 3200 02:24:49.920 --> 02:24:52.559 do a justice by just explaining it, like lokos look 3201 02:24:52.639 --> 02:24:53.360 up conflagration. 3202 02:24:53.520 --> 02:24:55.639 It's like trying to explain HDR to people. That's what 3203 02:24:55.719 --> 02:24:58.879 the sequence is, like if it feels next gen, yeah, and. 3204 02:24:58.959 --> 02:25:01.440 It's there's five everywhere, and as you're working your way 3205 02:25:01.440 --> 02:25:03.159 through all these kind of fire tunnels and everything, and 3206 02:25:03.200 --> 02:25:06.680 then it culminates in this boss fight against Neil, which 3207 02:25:06.760 --> 02:25:08.159 is like if you've seen the trailer where he used 3208 02:25:08.159 --> 02:25:10.719 to straight up Solid Snake with the bandana and stuff. 3209 02:25:10.760 --> 02:25:13.520 That's this sequence where like these these motorcycles are coming 3210 02:25:13.559 --> 02:25:15.360 out of the ground and like you know, out of 3211 02:25:15.399 --> 02:25:18.959 this tar and everything, and it's like weird spooky skeletons, 3212 02:25:19.000 --> 02:25:21.879 Solid Snake motorcycle crew with fireworks going off everywhere, and 3213 02:25:21.920 --> 02:25:22.120 then you. 3214 02:25:22.120 --> 02:25:24.680 Have this big shootout and like like a graveyard or 3215 02:25:24.719 --> 02:25:25.879 looks like ruins or something. 3216 02:25:26.000 --> 02:25:28.200 The thing where it's like the when their faces get 3217 02:25:28.280 --> 02:25:32.559 lit up. It's showing like the skeletons, yes, the Caribbean Yes. 3218 02:25:33.440 --> 02:25:35.399 And for all the stuff that is Kajima just being 3219 02:25:35.479 --> 02:25:37.000 Kajima in the ways that like, I think a lot 3220 02:25:37.040 --> 02:25:39.639 of people are annoyed by, like the Diehard Man dance 3221 02:25:39.680 --> 02:25:41.959 for example, like that's look, I like his wackiness and stuff. 3222 02:25:41.959 --> 02:25:43.680 I can see how people would see like, Okay, this 3223 02:25:43.799 --> 02:25:45.920 is stupid and he's just doing this. This is loss 3224 02:25:45.920 --> 02:25:50.280 so random. I think this Conflagration episode is him. Maybe 3225 02:25:50.360 --> 02:25:51.840 it is like most Powerful. 3226 02:25:51.479 --> 02:25:53.040 When you showed to me in the quick Look. It 3227 02:25:53.120 --> 02:25:54.520 is the thing where I was like, oh, Coach was 3228 02:25:54.559 --> 02:25:55.239 still got this one. 3229 02:25:55.600 --> 02:25:58.639 He's like he's like the style is just like gripping 3230 02:25:58.719 --> 02:26:01.040 off of this and even on like a technical level, 3231 02:26:01.079 --> 02:26:01.600 it's amazing. 3232 02:26:02.079 --> 02:26:05.840 Yeah, and then you know this The sequence is followed 3233 02:26:05.920 --> 02:26:09.000 by Metal Gear Solid essentially because it turns into a 3234 02:26:09.079 --> 02:26:11.680 classic Metal Gear Solid sniper fight and I'm like, oh, yeah, 3235 02:26:11.760 --> 02:26:15.159 here's a video game. I was really enjoying that. Yeah. 3236 02:26:15.319 --> 02:26:17.000 Oh I was going up and getting his face with 3237 02:26:17.040 --> 02:26:18.760 the sault rifles and stuff. I didn't know dog he 3238 02:26:18.840 --> 02:26:20.959 was supposed to like be running, You're supposed to run 3239 02:26:21.000 --> 02:26:23.360 around on the roofs and like sniper him in these 3240 02:26:23.360 --> 02:26:25.079 I didn't even find a sniper, right. I felt so 3241 02:26:25.239 --> 02:26:26.920 fucking cool doing that. Oh my god. 3242 02:26:26.959 --> 02:26:28.280 I called him twice and both times it was like, 3243 02:26:28.319 --> 02:26:30.000 we're getting up in his face, even some like c 3244 02:26:30.120 --> 02:26:31.760 QC type stuff and soult rifles. 3245 02:26:31.959 --> 02:26:33.760 Yeah in that way too, you know. Yeah, yeah, so 3246 02:26:33.959 --> 02:26:36.159 we know, Dan, you play all these games like that, But. 3247 02:26:36.280 --> 02:26:37.920 I honestly didn't know that was supposed to be a 3248 02:26:38.000 --> 02:26:41.799 snipers you did other people play that way apparently, Dan? 3249 02:26:41.879 --> 02:26:44.520 If I was you, my favorite moment from the game 3250 02:26:44.520 --> 02:26:46.280 would have been when they all sang happy birthday to me. 3251 02:26:46.479 --> 02:26:49.319 That's pretty good, weird, that didn't suppress me. You like, 3252 02:26:49.559 --> 02:26:50.959 I played on my actual birthday and didn't know that 3253 02:26:51.040 --> 02:26:52.760 was in the game, and oh, that's really cool. 3254 02:26:54.559 --> 02:26:57.639 I think we should cut Jeff Grabb murdering Dan rekerd 3255 02:26:57.680 --> 02:27:01.600 with a Yeah, reliability not a good moment. We do 3256 02:27:01.719 --> 02:27:04.600 not encourage violence in the workplace, despite not having an 3257 02:27:04.760 --> 02:27:07.120 HR department, or we know that's bad. 3258 02:27:07.239 --> 02:27:10.120 I'll say. Since I didn't get permanently injured, I'm glad 3259 02:27:10.159 --> 02:27:10.600 it happened. 3260 02:27:10.760 --> 02:27:14.399 It was very funny, impostly. Yeah, it was worth it. 3261 02:27:14.440 --> 02:27:16.200 I wouldn't change a thing. I would. 3262 02:27:17.159 --> 02:27:18.920 It was a solid five seconds where I thought I 3263 02:27:19.000 --> 02:27:21.959 was like disfigured. Yeah anymore you want to put a 3264 02:27:22.040 --> 02:27:24.920 damper on the whole weekend? Yeah it was. 3265 02:27:26.040 --> 02:27:28.760 It was one of those things where like I thought 3266 02:27:28.840 --> 02:27:30.920 I witnessed something horrific. 3267 02:27:31.920 --> 02:27:36.079 Yeah, faces of Death. Yeah, we traumatized. Poor John Carson 3268 02:27:36.120 --> 02:27:38.000 and Jesse Vittelli sitting. 3269 02:27:37.799 --> 02:27:38.239 On the couch. 3270 02:27:39.360 --> 02:27:41.799 Jesse didn't even Mississippi. 3271 02:27:43.719 --> 02:27:45.920 Needed to cope with his emotions. 3272 02:27:46.959 --> 02:27:48.440 John bomb is bad. 3273 02:27:51.200 --> 02:27:52.280 Apparently, right. Yeah. 3274 02:27:52.319 --> 02:27:56.799 Yeah, my kazoo by vape those just not even good. 3275 02:27:57.239 --> 02:28:02.040 Everything about that you were you were zigs there and 3276 02:28:02.159 --> 02:28:04.639 everything about that. Oh my god. 3277 02:28:05.799 --> 02:28:06.399 It was crazy. 3278 02:28:06.680 --> 02:28:07.959 How really that happened? 3279 02:28:08.079 --> 02:28:09.360 I can't even here. 3280 02:28:09.520 --> 02:28:12.920 It was the first thing uncross it off. It's something 3281 02:28:14.159 --> 02:28:17.760 also cut spaghettifying the guy in mind because that's the 3282 02:28:17.959 --> 02:28:19.920 only interesting thing that. 3283 02:28:19.920 --> 02:28:21.159 Game in a war. Yeah, that's right. 3284 02:28:21.239 --> 02:28:22.760 It was like really fun to like we did it 3285 02:28:22.879 --> 02:28:25.040 like twenty times and we just kept doing it and 3286 02:28:25.280 --> 02:28:26.520 we got some really good ones in there. 3287 02:28:26.559 --> 02:28:28.600 It was a fun moment. But let's cross that off. 3288 02:28:29.000 --> 02:28:32.159 I would cross off a Soilk song double Jump. It 3289 02:28:32.319 --> 02:28:34.840 is a tremendous feeling, but like, hey, we felt that 3290 02:28:35.200 --> 02:28:35.799 for decades. 3291 02:28:36.000 --> 02:28:37.959 You know, it's a bit different here because yeah, for 3292 02:28:38.280 --> 02:28:41.040 you know, we talked last year about Prince of Persia, 3293 02:28:41.079 --> 02:28:42.920 how like, oh, you got that double jump really late, 3294 02:28:43.000 --> 02:28:43.920 and that felt awesome. 3295 02:28:44.319 --> 02:28:45.520 Here it's even a little bit later. 3296 02:28:45.799 --> 02:28:48.040 But the build up to it is you're going up 3297 02:28:48.040 --> 02:28:50.920 this mountain and it's you know, the most difficult platforming 3298 02:28:51.040 --> 02:28:53.239 challenge probably in the whole game, at least to that point. 3299 02:28:53.639 --> 02:28:56.239 So it's really making you earn that double jump. 3300 02:28:56.319 --> 02:28:57.920 You have to prove to the game that you're good 3301 02:28:58.000 --> 02:29:00.959 with the dashes and the pogoing and that silk spear 3302 02:29:01.120 --> 02:29:03.520 thing and all this effort to get up there, and 3303 02:29:03.559 --> 02:29:04.920 you're kind of wondering the whole time. 3304 02:29:05.159 --> 02:29:07.319 Boy, it better be something good up here. I don't 3305 02:29:07.479 --> 02:29:10.159 because it's not like I don't even know if it's critical, pap. 3306 02:29:10.239 --> 02:29:11.959 It's not like when it's knees or something you need 3307 02:29:12.239 --> 02:29:13.079 you do I need double jump? 3308 02:29:13.120 --> 02:29:13.239 Right? 3309 02:29:13.239 --> 02:29:14.840 Then you get up there and like when you realize, like, oh, 3310 02:29:14.920 --> 02:29:16.760 I there is a double jump in this game, because 3311 02:29:16.760 --> 02:29:18.959 at that point you're just like maybe there isn't, and 3312 02:29:19.120 --> 02:29:19.559 you get it. 3313 02:29:19.680 --> 02:29:21.440 Ah, God, it felt really cool. To me, Yeah, I 3314 02:29:21.479 --> 02:29:23.000 think for me it is the lead up to it, 3315 02:29:23.159 --> 02:29:25.440 like just how challenging that was. And you know, the 3316 02:29:25.479 --> 02:29:29.639 whole game's got incredible presence and style and presentation, but 3317 02:29:29.719 --> 02:29:32.600 it's really good in that moment. Yeah, it's it was 3318 02:29:32.680 --> 02:29:34.239 up there for me. I don't know if it's going 3319 02:29:34.319 --> 02:29:36.319 to be. There's so much on this list it'll be hard. 3320 02:29:36.360 --> 02:29:38.440 But I'm with Mike on this. I want to keep 3321 02:29:38.440 --> 02:29:39.040 a little bit longer. 3322 02:29:39.200 --> 02:29:40.520 Sure if for no one of the reason, we haven't 3323 02:29:40.520 --> 02:29:42.760 had a ton of silks long representation in the categories, 3324 02:29:42.879 --> 02:29:43.680 So can we. 3325 02:29:43.719 --> 02:29:45.799 Cut you know, reaching the peak in Hades two? I mean, 3326 02:29:46.000 --> 02:29:48.000 I think every time we bring up Hades two, it's 3327 02:29:48.000 --> 02:29:49.799 the same thing where it's like, this is a tremendous game, 3328 02:29:49.840 --> 02:29:51.879 but it's all just fairy like, Okay, we've done here before, 3329 02:29:51.920 --> 02:29:52.280 you know it. 3330 02:29:53.360 --> 02:29:57.840 You know, Hades one, Zagarias can never actually hang on 3331 02:29:57.959 --> 02:30:01.280 the surface, right sorry sports For Hades one, he can 3332 02:30:01.360 --> 02:30:03.639 go speak to his you know, mother and everything. And 3333 02:30:03.760 --> 02:30:06.239 then in Hades two, you know you kind of feel like, oh, 3334 02:30:06.600 --> 02:30:08.639 we're not actually going to get Nope, you actually get 3335 02:30:08.719 --> 02:30:11.559 to go out into like the peak of Olympus and 3336 02:30:11.680 --> 02:30:13.479 hang with the gods. I wish they had more of 3337 02:30:13.559 --> 02:30:16.159 them there, like when you went every time, but like 3338 02:30:16.280 --> 02:30:19.799 it really it's a total vibe shift, like clouds parting, 3339 02:30:20.000 --> 02:30:22.760 it's glowing the music after Typhon. 3340 02:30:22.920 --> 02:30:25.399 Yeah, but I think it's a cool moment to when 3341 02:30:27.000 --> 02:30:29.760 Zeus actually helps you in that fight. I was like, yeah, yeah, 3342 02:30:30.600 --> 02:30:32.360 I think I like the Typhoon fight more than I 3343 02:30:32.440 --> 02:30:35.200 like the Cronos fight. Even yeah, I would agree, Yeah, 3344 02:30:35.719 --> 02:30:38.239 but you know, maybe doesn't quite hang. I'm better at 3345 02:30:38.239 --> 02:30:40.120 the patterns in the Typhoon fight that I am in 3346 02:30:40.200 --> 02:30:41.760 the I'm the opposite. 3347 02:30:41.840 --> 02:30:43.440 I'm so garbage at the Typhoon fight. 3348 02:30:43.680 --> 02:30:45.760 Super Cronos fight is definitely harder though. 3349 02:30:45.920 --> 02:30:48.680 Yeah, And also I feel like we did kind of 3350 02:30:49.559 --> 02:30:52.639 give hades to his flowers last year when Nicky and 3351 02:30:52.639 --> 02:30:58.440 I wouldn't shut up about going up wait for the 3352 02:30:58.479 --> 02:30:58.840 one point. 3353 02:30:58.920 --> 02:31:04.520 Oh yeah, fun, Jeff, do you want to pick like, like, 3354 02:31:04.719 --> 02:31:07.680 maybe you're more favorite of the baby steps things here? 3355 02:31:08.239 --> 02:31:11.440 Uh yeah, they're pretty fast Scout de feeding the Man 3356 02:31:11.479 --> 02:31:14.159 Breaker and this one just says mommy right. 3357 02:31:14.280 --> 02:31:17.600 So okay, So Man Breaker is that really challenging section 3358 02:31:17.680 --> 02:31:19.719 where they put stairs right next to it and instead 3359 02:31:20.120 --> 02:31:22.479 if you're an asshole to yourself. You can instead go 3360 02:31:22.680 --> 02:31:27.040 up the very challenging rock face where every step is 3361 02:31:27.120 --> 02:31:29.639 precarious and if you fall down, you fall down for 3362 02:31:29.920 --> 02:31:31.920 a thirty seconds because you're so high up and you 3363 02:31:32.000 --> 02:31:35.280 have to start over defeeding. That was you know, it's 3364 02:31:35.319 --> 02:31:37.239 one of those things I'll never ever forget. It was 3365 02:31:37.440 --> 02:31:40.840 so incredible. It's such an incredible feeling. Right after that, 3366 02:31:41.559 --> 02:31:43.440 after you like go through this and you don't even 3367 02:31:43.680 --> 02:31:45.920 necessarily wrestle with your feelings about like why you done, 3368 02:31:45.959 --> 02:31:47.520 why you did that? Instead of going up the stairs 3369 02:31:47.600 --> 02:31:49.760 or whatever, maybe you've internalized that there's no time to 3370 02:31:49.799 --> 02:31:53.040 think about that. You get to this campfire, which is 3371 02:31:53.079 --> 02:31:55.360 one of like the the main like points of like 3372 02:31:55.440 --> 02:31:58.280 here's the act is ending, the next act beginning, and 3373 02:31:58.399 --> 02:32:00.360 you go in it. You think it's gonna be one cutscenes, 3374 02:32:00.399 --> 02:32:02.280 We're going to see the donkeyment with the huge dicks, 3375 02:32:02.440 --> 02:32:05.399 and instead, like it kind of cuts away and you 3376 02:32:05.559 --> 02:32:07.600 come back and it's like, okay, if we're taking you 3377 02:32:07.639 --> 02:32:09.200 to the next area, and by taking you, it's like 3378 02:32:09.440 --> 02:32:12.719 a giant lady shows up and she picks you up, 3379 02:32:13.239 --> 02:32:15.399 like and you're doing up these your arms off to 3380 02:32:15.440 --> 02:32:17.399 the side and they just just picks you up and 3381 02:32:17.479 --> 02:32:20.200 she doesn't say anything. She just smiles at you, and 3382 02:32:20.319 --> 02:32:22.520 she just very gently sets you down on top of 3383 02:32:22.600 --> 02:32:24.879 the next cliff so you can continue walking. And this 3384 02:32:25.079 --> 02:32:26.959 music's playing and it's just like, oh my god, the 3385 02:32:27.000 --> 02:32:30.360 way it hit me of like I am alone on 3386 02:32:30.440 --> 02:32:32.479 this mountain face. I'm trying to get up here, and 3387 02:32:32.600 --> 02:32:35.280 it's so challenging and I don't necessarily know why I'm 3388 02:32:35.319 --> 02:32:36.920 doing this to myself, but I know I have to 3389 02:32:37.000 --> 02:32:42.280 do it, and it's very like it is like you 3390 02:32:42.360 --> 02:32:45.479 feel very alone, and the game for the game to 3391 02:32:45.559 --> 02:32:47.840 realize that. The next thing that you need to remember 3392 02:32:47.959 --> 02:32:49.959 is sometimes there's people who will help you, and there's 3393 02:32:49.959 --> 02:32:51.360 people who'll take care of you, and that's what we 3394 02:32:51.440 --> 02:32:55.200 all crave and need, and it's okay to be reminded 3395 02:32:55.239 --> 02:32:58.040 of that and it's okay to like have those feelings. 3396 02:32:58.440 --> 02:33:01.840 It hit me so hot, it was so impactful. The 3397 02:33:02.000 --> 02:33:03.920 most emotional moment I've had in a game this year. 3398 02:33:04.399 --> 02:33:07.879 So I think Man Breaker was this, I overcame this thing. 3399 02:33:08.120 --> 02:33:10.479 I've done that a lot in games. There's only a 3400 02:33:10.559 --> 02:33:13.559 couple of times where a game's been like, oh, this 3401 02:33:13.799 --> 02:33:17.040 trauma you've dealt with your entire life, these these feelings 3402 02:33:17.120 --> 02:33:20.920 of like belonging and value. There's only a couple of 3403 02:33:20.959 --> 02:33:23.200 times that they've ever really come to me and games 3404 02:33:23.200 --> 02:33:25.000 come to me and been like, we know that you 3405 02:33:25.079 --> 02:33:27.479 feel that too, and we are going to explain it 3406 02:33:27.600 --> 02:33:31.200 without words, without without really it's a you know, the 3407 02:33:31.319 --> 02:33:33.440 very brief cut scene, We're just going to show you 3408 02:33:33.520 --> 02:33:35.520 that emotion in a raw way, and it's going to 3409 02:33:35.600 --> 02:33:37.319 hit because of what we just put you through. So 3410 02:33:37.440 --> 02:33:39.520 between those two, it's gonna it's gonna be Mommy. 3411 02:33:39.319 --> 02:33:42.440 It's crazy how much this game wound up having to say. 3412 02:33:43.840 --> 02:33:44.600 Crazy yes. 3413 02:33:44.719 --> 02:33:47.399 And it's like, to me, it's like that puts it 3414 02:33:47.440 --> 02:33:50.399 above because it's doing it without putting in your face, 3415 02:33:50.479 --> 02:33:52.520 without having to have a bunch of writing. All of 3416 02:33:52.520 --> 02:33:55.920 the cut scenes are just improv comedy scenes. All of 3417 02:33:56.000 --> 02:33:58.920 the emotion comes from the interplay between this playing a. 3418 02:33:58.920 --> 02:34:02.000 Couple of a key moments, watching you beat Man Breaker 3419 02:34:02.760 --> 02:34:04.399 was really great, and then when you go to the 3420 02:34:04.479 --> 02:34:07.440 cabin door and talk to the guy and you're sorry, 3421 02:34:07.479 --> 02:34:08.600 what's the main characters name again? 3422 02:34:08.879 --> 02:34:12.399 Uh, Nate, that's right, and he like finally asks and 3423 02:34:12.559 --> 02:34:14.680 admits that he needs help, yes, and stuff like that 3424 02:34:14.840 --> 02:34:15.959 I was like, Oh, I get this guy. 3425 02:34:16.040 --> 02:34:18.719 Yeah, that's and that's like the culmination of like that 3426 02:34:18.920 --> 02:34:21.600 starts with with Mommy, where it's like you finally get 3427 02:34:21.639 --> 02:34:24.559 the door and like he's beginning to recognize it's okay 3428 02:34:24.600 --> 02:34:26.159 for me to just ask for help, and then he 3429 02:34:26.200 --> 02:34:28.360 goes there and then like they are basically like a 3430 02:34:28.440 --> 02:34:30.600 couple after that, him and the main donkey dick guy. 3431 02:34:30.760 --> 02:34:34.639 It's it's very very cute and sweet and got powerful game. 3432 02:34:36.239 --> 02:34:38.200 So yeah, you can cut out bringing the man breaker 3433 02:34:38.239 --> 02:34:39.079 and keep mind before me. 3434 02:34:39.239 --> 02:34:43.719 That's good. I'm a little bit torn because I u 3435 02:34:44.520 --> 02:34:49.040 with Expedition thirty three specifically, I found Gustav's death to 3436 02:34:49.079 --> 02:34:54.200 be very unexpected in such a surprise that they really 3437 02:34:54.319 --> 02:34:55.399 committed to and stuck to. 3438 02:34:56.479 --> 02:34:58.840 They just replaced him with someone that looks a lot 3439 02:34:58.920 --> 02:34:59.600 like yeah. 3440 02:35:00.520 --> 02:35:03.440 Yeah, And I think like the more that I've been 3441 02:35:03.559 --> 02:35:07.760 like marinating on Claire Obscure as a whole, I think 3442 02:35:07.920 --> 02:35:11.040 for me personally, and this doesn't have I just want 3443 02:35:11.079 --> 02:35:12.399 to mention it. It doesn't have to be added to 3444 02:35:12.479 --> 02:35:16.479 the list. Is the final fight and your decision of 3445 02:35:16.559 --> 02:35:20.680 whether or not to fight my l or fight verso, 3446 02:35:21.200 --> 02:35:24.200 and you'll get a different ending depending on which one. 3447 02:35:24.719 --> 02:35:29.319 And I really did not like Versa when he got 3448 02:35:29.360 --> 02:35:31.159 added to the party, I had a lot of friction 3449 02:35:31.280 --> 02:35:33.040 with him because I think I just got attached to 3450 02:35:35.120 --> 02:35:40.079 you don't like Ben Stares this whole time, Ben star 3451 02:35:40.600 --> 02:35:47.879 Ger too polite of a person. But over time, just 3452 02:35:48.000 --> 02:35:50.639 like really getting to know more about versus character, and 3453 02:35:50.719 --> 02:35:54.319 then I just became so attached to my l just 3454 02:35:54.399 --> 02:35:56.600 like as like that little sister character and just seeing 3455 02:35:56.639 --> 02:36:02.079 how she is carrying and deal with so much grief 3456 02:36:02.239 --> 02:36:05.239 and not processing it. And I'm sure we've all seen 3457 02:36:05.719 --> 02:36:09.280 people that are that we love with all of our 3458 02:36:09.319 --> 02:36:14.159 hearts kind of get a little bit, I don't want 3459 02:36:14.159 --> 02:36:18.360 to say twisted, but carry themselves in a negative way 3460 02:36:18.520 --> 02:36:22.120 because of their inability to process, whether it's grief or 3461 02:36:22.200 --> 02:36:27.239 something very traumatic in their lives. And giving me that 3462 02:36:27.399 --> 02:36:32.559 decision to now that I have to defeat someone that 3463 02:36:32.719 --> 02:36:35.879 I've grown super attached to. And then now I'm thinking 3464 02:36:35.879 --> 02:36:39.440 about Verso's whole story and that he's kind of just 3465 02:36:39.600 --> 02:36:42.719 been He's not even a person in this anymore. He's 3466 02:36:43.600 --> 02:36:46.520 purely just a tool. He's purely a memory that is 3467 02:36:46.639 --> 02:36:52.920 being exploited. Is just kind of like stuck with me, 3468 02:36:53.200 --> 02:36:55.120 and like I know a lot of people the ending 3469 02:36:55.239 --> 02:36:58.479 is not necessarily like stuck with them, but to give 3470 02:36:58.559 --> 02:37:01.440 me that decision and then alter sim for the decision 3471 02:37:01.520 --> 02:37:04.719 to be just to face your fucking life and not 3472 02:37:04.879 --> 02:37:07.440 necessarily get over it, but just to accept it. 3473 02:37:08.200 --> 02:37:09.719 I thought it was very powerful. 3474 02:37:09.920 --> 02:37:14.159 And then just like after having a gigantic battle where 3475 02:37:14.440 --> 02:37:17.760 your kaiju mommy comes in to help you fight your dad, 3476 02:37:19.799 --> 02:37:22.360 and then now like that was a very tough, long 3477 02:37:22.520 --> 02:37:26.680 drawn out battle that now this just feels like a beleaguered, tired, 3478 02:37:26.879 --> 02:37:31.239 and weary fight between two siblings. I thought was just 3479 02:37:32.040 --> 02:37:33.760 one of the best things for me. I kind of 3480 02:37:33.799 --> 02:37:36.239 want that moment to be on here instead of death. 3481 02:37:36.520 --> 02:37:39.680 I really liked the ending. I felt kind of alone ending. 3482 02:37:40.200 --> 02:37:42.000 I don't if I want to have that conversation yet 3483 02:37:42.040 --> 02:37:42.760 about the end. 3484 02:37:43.000 --> 02:37:46.159 And just remind me of some remembering this correctly. Verso 3485 02:37:46.559 --> 02:37:49.120 was her brother that died in the fire in the 3486 02:37:49.200 --> 02:37:51.079 real world, and she kind of kept him alive by 3487 02:37:51.159 --> 02:37:51.440 kind of like. 3488 02:37:56.280 --> 02:37:56.760 Right, yeah. 3489 02:37:57.319 --> 02:37:59.040 Basically the final thing is like Mayo was like I 3490 02:37:59.120 --> 02:38:01.760 want to stay yeah, right yeah, versus like you need 3491 02:38:01.799 --> 02:38:04.600 to go because I want to die in fantasy or. 3492 02:38:04.600 --> 02:38:06.079 Confront round, and I thought it was like a really 3493 02:38:06.159 --> 02:38:09.760 powerful conversation about yes, like processing your grief and like 3494 02:38:10.280 --> 02:38:13.399 stop living in this fantasy, but also like a conversation 3495 02:38:13.440 --> 02:38:16.440 about removing someone else's agency and not just one person, right, 3496 02:38:16.680 --> 02:38:19.239 and many many people that you've met and befriended and 3497 02:38:19.319 --> 02:38:21.440 gotten close to. I'm like, oh, that's a great moment. 3498 02:38:21.639 --> 02:38:24.559 So I don't like the ending ending of this game, 3499 02:38:24.600 --> 02:38:27.600 but I actually like the fight and everything surrounding it 3500 02:38:27.760 --> 02:38:29.959 a lot, for the reasons Erye just mentioned. I think 3501 02:38:30.000 --> 02:38:33.079 it is a fantastic moment of like actually asking the 3502 02:38:33.120 --> 02:38:36.239 player to consider the ratifications of what they're about to 3503 02:38:36.319 --> 02:38:38.040 do here, and I like that. 3504 02:38:38.159 --> 02:38:40.280 You know, it doesn't really result in like the very 3505 02:38:40.319 --> 02:38:43.760 traditional good ending or bad ending there at there's a 3506 02:38:43.799 --> 02:38:45.920 lot of debate about it, like maybe they're both bad, 3507 02:38:46.040 --> 02:38:48.600 maybe one's kind of okay, it's it's it's interesting, like 3508 02:38:48.959 --> 02:38:51.200 I don't know, you know, there's a bit more thinking 3509 02:38:51.280 --> 02:38:52.959 than these games usually give you. 3510 02:38:53.719 --> 02:38:57.159 Right, Okay, And you know, I don't want to take 3511 02:38:57.159 --> 02:38:58.760 anything away from Gustav's death. 3512 02:39:00.159 --> 02:39:02.920 Shocking moment, but I think this is a better moment. 3513 02:39:03.040 --> 02:39:05.280 Yeah, another shocking moment. I just want to mention is 3514 02:39:05.319 --> 02:39:07.319 like when you get to the beach and Renoir just 3515 02:39:07.440 --> 02:39:10.159 cuts everyone down, and you're like, yeah, it's kind a 3516 02:39:10.200 --> 02:39:10.760 fucking game. 3517 02:39:11.600 --> 02:39:14.799 I mean, the case's got a lot of cool moments. Yeah, 3518 02:39:15.399 --> 02:39:18.120 just like every battle is kind of a cool game. 3519 02:39:19.440 --> 02:39:21.159 Is there any other thing we feel like we could 3520 02:39:21.639 --> 02:39:24.520 I didn't even cut I don't grab the sectory. That 3521 02:39:24.639 --> 02:39:27.079 is a killer feeling when you beat a boss fight 3522 02:39:27.159 --> 02:39:29.639 without dying, because goddamn it, those some of those boss fights, 3523 02:39:29.879 --> 02:39:31.920 if it's not the worm, I'm probably gonna die once 3524 02:39:32.000 --> 02:39:32.360 or twice. 3525 02:39:32.479 --> 02:39:32.680 You know. 3526 02:39:32.799 --> 02:39:35.360 Yeah, that's the only one I can like reve right, 3527 02:39:35.520 --> 02:39:36.120 So that that's. 3528 02:39:36.040 --> 02:39:37.639 Like when I got to a point where I was 3529 02:39:37.719 --> 02:39:39.600 going through one of those other bosses where it's like 3530 02:39:39.760 --> 02:39:41.799 there's so much happening and there's so much around you 3531 02:39:41.920 --> 02:39:45.040 and three phases and it's also a bullet hell, and 3532 02:39:45.360 --> 02:39:47.120 they then they throw the thing on top of you. 3533 02:39:47.280 --> 02:39:49.639 Of here's a yellow line drawing you to that if 3534 02:39:49.719 --> 02:39:51.159 the next thing, if you hit that, you kill this 3535 02:39:51.280 --> 02:39:54.479 thing next, you'll continue your bonus streak. And it's like, well, 3536 02:39:54.719 --> 02:39:56.479 I should do that, And so then you take all 3537 02:39:56.520 --> 02:39:59.280 these extra risks and getting to a point where you 3538 02:39:59.639 --> 02:40:01.719 like ocus your eyes and you're seeing the whole screen 3539 02:40:01.760 --> 02:40:03.840 at once and it's all happening, and you are just 3540 02:40:03.920 --> 02:40:06.639 perfectly weaving without thinking through every single one of these 3541 02:40:06.639 --> 02:40:10.040 obstacles while also killing this boss. It's an incredible feeling. 3542 02:40:10.440 --> 02:40:11.799 Uh, I've had it. 3543 02:40:11.879 --> 02:40:14.360 I've had it similar things before. It's worth calling out. 3544 02:40:14.239 --> 02:40:16.879 Here, But yeah, we can cross it off Room forty 3545 02:40:16.920 --> 02:40:17.760 six of Blueprints. 3546 02:40:18.159 --> 02:40:19.799 That was a great feeling. It felt really good. 3547 02:40:20.120 --> 02:40:23.000 But it's ultimately a crossing the finish line moment, right, 3548 02:40:23.040 --> 02:40:24.760 I don't know if it's well in a game that 3549 02:40:24.799 --> 02:40:26.399 has a lot of crossing the finish that moment. 3550 02:40:26.520 --> 02:40:28.120 Yeah, you know there's a lot of the a one 3551 02:40:28.760 --> 02:40:30.200 it is, but like I. 3552 02:40:30.280 --> 02:40:32.360 Think you'll feel like there's like some moments in blue 3553 02:40:32.360 --> 02:40:34.920 Prints where it's like you discover like what the levers 3554 02:40:35.000 --> 02:40:37.360 do or how to open one of those the secret 3555 02:40:37.399 --> 02:40:39.719 doors that that are like in some of those rooms 3556 02:40:39.760 --> 02:40:41.040 and stuff like the garden key. 3557 02:40:41.399 --> 02:40:44.440 It's the electricity and right, yes, there's a million of them. 3558 02:40:44.520 --> 02:40:46.479 Yeah, there's some moment and maybe there's just so much 3559 02:40:46.559 --> 02:40:49.600 that it's hard to keep spread. I feel like with Blueprints, 3560 02:40:49.719 --> 02:40:51.760 like a lot of it is just like the own 3561 02:40:52.120 --> 02:40:56.319 everyone's individual experience more than like a collective one thing 3562 02:40:56.399 --> 02:41:00.000 that happens. Yeah, I think that's probably right, Okay, cutting. 3563 02:40:59.760 --> 02:41:01.280 It, I think so, I just want to say, with 3564 02:41:01.360 --> 02:41:03.479 like Room forty six, it's not so much that moment 3565 02:41:03.680 --> 02:41:05.840 of those doors, like getting all through those doors open 3566 02:41:05.920 --> 02:41:07.920 or the doors you need and then being able to 3567 02:41:07.920 --> 02:41:08.360 get in there. 3568 02:41:08.520 --> 02:41:11.079 It's that particular run where you get that. 3569 02:41:11.639 --> 02:41:15.280 Yeah, there's several elements to all the knowledge. You've got 3570 02:41:15.360 --> 02:41:18.600 your fucking levers, you know, your route, Like that feels 3571 02:41:18.719 --> 02:41:19.360 fucking good. 3572 02:41:19.399 --> 02:41:23.360 But I totally the fountain. Yeah, yeah, Mike, you know 3573 02:41:23.440 --> 02:41:25.079 what I'm talking about with this, right, I know what 3574 02:41:25.079 --> 02:41:26.639 you're talking about. I've never played this. Well the hell 3575 02:41:26.639 --> 02:41:27.319 are you talking about? 3576 02:41:29.399 --> 02:41:32.200 Here's the spoilers, but yeah, like you know she's a werewolf, right, Well, 3577 02:41:32.239 --> 02:41:34.280 because the girl you're playing as she kind of goes 3578 02:41:34.319 --> 02:41:37.479 between two realms, this real world and the spiritual world. 3579 02:41:37.840 --> 02:41:39.920 At some point during the spiritual world, she just kind 3580 02:41:39.920 --> 02:41:42.440 of becomes part of this ritual where. 3581 02:41:42.360 --> 02:41:46.680 She cuts off her face and her arm, brands. 3582 02:41:46.440 --> 02:41:48.440 Herself as because she cuts off her own arm. 3583 02:41:48.479 --> 02:41:51.760 It's this graphic, horrifying thing that the game earns really well, 3584 02:41:51.799 --> 02:41:54.159 and it just fits so well. But it's this graphic, 3585 02:41:54.280 --> 02:41:57.159 horrifying scene and then they attach a wolf arm on 3586 02:41:57.200 --> 02:41:59.200 it instead, right, and then you know, half the game 3587 02:41:59.280 --> 02:42:01.479 takes place in that. So now in that part of 3588 02:42:01.559 --> 02:42:03.879 the game, you kind of have this almost power fantasy 3589 02:42:03.879 --> 02:42:04.239 because you. 3590 02:42:04.280 --> 02:42:05.360 Are very strong. 3591 02:42:05.440 --> 02:42:07.600 Now you don't have to worry about the weapon durability, 3592 02:42:08.159 --> 02:42:11.360 this new move set, it's your arm. Yeah, and it's 3593 02:42:11.479 --> 02:42:12.920 oh my gosh, it was like just for you know, 3594 02:42:12.959 --> 02:42:14.680 it's like it was kind of like a squeamish like, 3595 02:42:14.760 --> 02:42:17.520 oh my god, they're going this far thing then, but 3596 02:42:17.639 --> 02:42:19.200 you know, again, it was built up really well. 3597 02:42:19.239 --> 02:42:22.559 It was a big payoffs, and they don't really they 3598 02:42:22.760 --> 02:42:25.959 they show you just enough to feel terrible, right, but 3599 02:42:26.200 --> 02:42:28.959 not you know, not full divinity yeah. 3600 02:42:32.479 --> 02:42:33.040 Once in a while. 3601 02:42:34.680 --> 02:42:36.719 And I don't know, I feel like, especially the way 3602 02:42:36.799 --> 02:42:41.000 that they've been framing, uh, your player character, she's portrayed 3603 02:42:41.000 --> 02:42:43.719 as very frail, not just in like the universe of 3604 02:42:43.840 --> 02:42:46.239 Silent Hill, but like in her own personal life and 3605 02:42:46.399 --> 02:42:49.719 she doesn't have too much agency and then to then 3606 02:42:49.840 --> 02:42:54.879 suddenly in this spirit world make her a badass wolf lady. 3607 02:42:55.680 --> 02:42:59.040 It's especially powerful Jesus. 3608 02:42:59.079 --> 02:43:01.200 So what happens in some unleashed. 3609 02:43:08.440 --> 02:43:14.440 What happens is his own arm. Yeah, it's more graphic 3610 02:43:14.559 --> 02:43:16.719 than funny. What shadowed us? 3611 02:43:17.280 --> 02:43:20.040 I know, wat it's funny because. 3612 02:43:19.879 --> 02:43:23.479 Ninja Got In four was a Sonic game. Also, yes, 3613 02:43:24.239 --> 02:43:26.639 Grinding Sonic, Big year for Sonic. 3614 02:43:26.840 --> 02:43:27.319 Like man. 3615 02:43:29.600 --> 02:43:32.000 Grub, I know you love to roll around in the mud. 3616 02:43:33.280 --> 02:43:35.159 Yeah, I mean, look, this is the kind of ship 3617 02:43:35.200 --> 02:43:37.079 that I love in games where it's like we come 3618 02:43:37.159 --> 02:43:40.360 up with our own problem that we made ourselves, and 3619 02:43:40.719 --> 02:43:41.959 and then we all have to deal with the fact 3620 02:43:42.000 --> 02:43:43.639 that we're humans and have different desires. 3621 02:43:43.680 --> 02:43:45.360 Like Dan wants to be a stinker, and it's like. 3622 02:43:45.479 --> 02:43:47.760 Okay, yeah, what that's why we had to put your 3623 02:43:47.879 --> 02:43:50.280 time out for him. And then and then you came 3624 02:43:50.319 --> 02:43:52.239 out because you promised you would help, and then you did. 3625 02:43:52.360 --> 02:43:54.360 And then we all were working because a truck tipped 3626 02:43:54.399 --> 02:43:56.600 over and you actually knocked it over on purpose, but 3627 02:43:56.639 --> 02:43:57.920 you still like, I'm gonna fix it. 3628 02:43:58.159 --> 02:44:00.360 And we all like had to like work together to 3629 02:44:00.719 --> 02:44:03.120 upright this thing in a really muddy spot. So it 3630 02:44:03.239 --> 02:44:04.280 was very difficult. 3631 02:44:04.559 --> 02:44:06.120 And by the time we got upright was time down 3632 02:44:06.159 --> 02:44:07.920 the stream, and we were all very excited and they 3633 02:44:07.920 --> 02:44:11.239 were like, let's just go driving the water. This is 3634 02:44:11.239 --> 02:44:14.799 a great culmination. Uh, it's it sounds like it's gonna 3635 02:44:14.799 --> 02:44:15.760 have a hard time hanging here. 3636 02:44:15.879 --> 02:44:18.879 But I man, I love this kind of yeah, good moment, 3637 02:44:19.000 --> 02:44:20.520 solid moment. I'm going to cut it. 3638 02:44:20.639 --> 02:44:25.799 Speaking of what you like our games. Monkey farts huh yo, man, Yeah, Look, 3639 02:44:25.879 --> 02:44:29.319 that's just humor. That's just that's just humor. 3640 02:44:29.440 --> 02:44:36.479 And we have now for two days been saying that 3641 02:44:36.639 --> 02:44:38.079 Dan is the deadpool. 3642 02:44:40.920 --> 02:44:48.959 Is Dan're pretty good? Would you have a drug dealing 3643 02:44:49.719 --> 02:44:51.440 roommate that is also a blind lady? 3644 02:44:52.840 --> 02:44:58.000 I've had half of that equation after college experience. I mean, look, 3645 02:44:58.079 --> 02:44:59.920 we had a brilliant idea, and the game gave a 3646 02:45:00.120 --> 02:45:01.920 the tools to do it, and we nailed it on 3647 02:45:01.959 --> 02:45:04.079 the first try. And it's the funniest thing I could 3648 02:45:04.079 --> 02:45:07.680 have imagined. It was keep digging, keep digging. And we 3649 02:45:07.799 --> 02:45:11.120 got to the yeah, the bunker with a button to 3650 02:45:11.239 --> 02:45:13.959 end the world and nuclear war, and we realized there's 3651 02:45:14.000 --> 02:45:15.840 a moat where you turn around and you fart, and 3652 02:45:15.879 --> 02:45:19.239 it's got a little stinky gas animation. And there's one 3653 02:45:19.840 --> 02:45:21.520 a moat where a monkey gets down on his ground 3654 02:45:21.520 --> 02:45:22.680 and opens his mouth and howls. 3655 02:45:22.959 --> 02:45:24.959 I think Grub, we had you do the howl yeah, 3656 02:45:26.159 --> 02:45:28.959 stop before we press this button, fart in my face. 3657 02:45:29.120 --> 02:45:32.079 Yeah, and we both turn around and fart do his 3658 02:45:32.280 --> 02:45:34.719 monkey mouth, and it worked perfectly and it's the funniest 3659 02:45:34.719 --> 02:45:35.399 thing that could happen. 3660 02:45:35.520 --> 02:45:37.680 It was Yeah again, I love this kind of stuff. 3661 02:45:38.760 --> 02:45:45.959 Let's we got it, beautiful moment. Rainbow Road is very 3662 02:45:46.000 --> 02:45:48.120 good at Mario car I'm not quite sure if like. 3663 02:45:49.239 --> 02:45:54.360 It is very specifically. I'm talking about here the approach 3664 02:45:54.520 --> 02:45:57.079 to because we just talked about how Mario kartt World 3665 02:45:57.399 --> 02:46:00.719 does a very sloppy job of like having the big 3666 02:46:00.959 --> 02:46:04.040 highways and everything trying to connect the various tracks and stuff. 3667 02:46:04.319 --> 02:46:07.799 But the final cup is very good because it is 3668 02:46:07.959 --> 02:46:11.079 all culminating and you going to Rainbow Road. So it's 3669 02:46:11.079 --> 02:46:14.799 about the drive downhill and going through different terrains and 3670 02:46:14.879 --> 02:46:16.680 like going on the water and stuff at the end. 3671 02:46:17.040 --> 02:46:19.719 At the end, it's a starry night and all the 3672 02:46:19.799 --> 02:46:23.760 imagery matches and it's just nighttime. Things are shimmering and 3673 02:46:23.879 --> 02:46:25.879 you go through the water. You're bobbing up and down 3674 02:46:25.920 --> 02:46:27.760 until you get to a big jump and you go 3675 02:46:28.000 --> 02:46:31.879 up into the sky to Rainbow Road, and it's a 3676 02:46:31.959 --> 02:46:33.600 really cool moment and I like it. 3677 02:46:33.879 --> 02:46:34.280 I like it. 3678 02:46:34.399 --> 02:46:37.239 Probably even more than the Rainbow Road Track itself. And 3679 02:46:37.280 --> 02:46:39.000 that's why I thought of it for this category, because 3680 02:46:39.040 --> 02:46:41.399 I think the approach is very good. I don't know 3681 02:46:41.399 --> 02:46:43.440 if it's keeping up with some of the rest of 3682 02:46:43.840 --> 02:46:46.040 these on here, but I thought it was a great 3683 02:46:46.040 --> 02:46:46.280 a mark. 3684 02:46:46.319 --> 02:46:48.680 I think we can keep it on for now, all right, 3685 02:46:49.200 --> 02:46:51.719 tell me about being someone's step mom step mom? 3686 02:46:53.479 --> 02:46:55.680 Yeah, And I don't know if I feel like we're 3687 02:46:55.680 --> 02:46:57.280 gonna go and through all these ones of like these 3688 02:46:57.319 --> 02:47:00.600 are our own player created agency this. Yeah, and I 3689 02:47:00.639 --> 02:47:02.799 would be like that tho. These are equally importantly these 3690 02:47:02.879 --> 02:47:04.959 kinds of things in games. They're not like, oh, it's 3691 02:47:05.000 --> 02:47:06.719 a story thing written by the game, so we got 3692 02:47:06.799 --> 02:47:08.680 to give it more reverence. This stuff is more important 3693 02:47:08.680 --> 02:47:11.079 to me, actually, but I still generally agree. 3694 02:47:11.159 --> 02:47:13.159 Yeah, And I also would like to give Kala is 3695 02:47:13.360 --> 02:47:15.840 she wanted to fuck your mom's mom, so she would 3696 02:47:15.840 --> 02:47:16.719 be your mom's stepmom. 3697 02:47:19.799 --> 02:47:20.879 Changes the dynamic. 3698 02:47:20.920 --> 02:47:25.000 I want to misrepresent Kayala. That's okay, just calling people 3699 02:47:25.200 --> 02:47:26.200 chicken ass bitches. 3700 02:47:26.399 --> 02:47:30.600 Yeah, she's going front on your ass. Yes, juicy bitch 3701 02:47:30.680 --> 02:47:34.399 holds tart, Yeah, juicy bitch. I feel like this is 3702 02:47:34.479 --> 02:47:36.399 the year so many people have gotten to see the 3703 02:47:36.559 --> 02:47:40.879 joy and what I have, Like i've known herly hear 3704 02:47:40.959 --> 02:47:43.760 me out, what if this is the soft three for this. 3705 02:47:45.280 --> 02:47:48.040 Something like this, this one, I'd like the underbed meeting 3706 02:47:48.120 --> 02:47:50.120 as well and stuff like that, but uh, this one 3707 02:47:50.360 --> 02:47:52.879 we were It really revealed to me like the possibility 3708 02:47:52.879 --> 02:47:53.879 of our graders. 3709 02:47:53.879 --> 02:47:56.239 Of oh, yeah, you don't have to have this. There 3710 02:47:56.319 --> 02:47:57.639 is no social contract here. 3711 02:47:57.760 --> 02:48:00.079 Get away with what you can get away with, and 3712 02:48:00.280 --> 02:48:01.719 that means send in a. 3713 02:48:01.799 --> 02:48:04.639 Crazy person to a point where the other two people 3714 02:48:04.799 --> 02:48:08.280 on their team are like, we cannot control her. 3715 02:48:09.200 --> 02:48:10.840 I'm part of that three, and I'm trim to be 3716 02:48:10.840 --> 02:48:13.280 a voice of reason with you. She didn't records the 3717 02:48:13.360 --> 02:48:13.959 voice of reason. 3718 02:48:14.239 --> 02:48:16.920 I think it's a good representation of all these like 3719 02:48:17.079 --> 02:48:19.760 make your own fun, mone the tools the game gives you. 3720 02:48:20.040 --> 02:48:22.319 Yeah, yeah, And it was like okay, and then made 3721 02:48:22.319 --> 02:48:23.760 me realize it's like, oh that this is the way 3722 02:48:23.799 --> 02:48:26.239 the game is meant to be played. It gives you 3723 02:48:26.319 --> 02:48:28.639 these possibility and she she's not thinking about on that 3724 02:48:28.680 --> 02:48:29.200 act the level. 3725 02:48:29.239 --> 02:48:30.399 She's just being herself. 3726 02:48:30.559 --> 02:48:33.520 Yeah, and we're like this is beautiful, and it legitimately 3727 02:48:33.840 --> 02:48:35.600 scared away every team became a fall. 3728 02:48:35.680 --> 02:48:37.680 So in the Trio mode, when and that was the 3729 02:48:37.760 --> 02:48:40.000 time where in the trio mode everyone was shoot on site. 3730 02:48:40.200 --> 02:48:43.040 It was hot, spicy fighting, and everyone's like, fuck that 3731 02:48:43.200 --> 02:48:44.159 I'm not dealing with this, lady. 3732 02:48:44.319 --> 02:48:49.520 Unrelated, unrelated, Maybe we need to get onto a GT 3733 02:48:49.760 --> 02:48:56.479 online role playing serve. I'm yes. I think it's also 3734 02:48:56.559 --> 02:48:59.399 important that not just highlighting these written story bits, but 3735 02:48:59.520 --> 02:49:02.760 like our own moments and sequences that we developed for ourselves. 3736 02:49:02.799 --> 02:49:06.479 And I feel like Klys screaming off a group. I mean, 3737 02:49:06.520 --> 02:49:08.639 let's keep it because personally. 3738 02:49:08.479 --> 02:49:10.959 Will's clip that he cut of where we're like, okay, 3739 02:49:11.000 --> 02:49:13.280 everybody be cool. There's people and said everybody be cool. 3740 02:49:13.319 --> 02:49:14.040 It just goes no. 3741 02:49:19.559 --> 02:49:21.959 I think, especially if this represents sort of like those 3742 02:49:22.040 --> 02:49:24.319 uneasy truces and social attractions in our careers. 3743 02:49:24.399 --> 02:49:28.520 I like it on the list. Yeah, god uh. 3744 02:49:30.600 --> 02:49:30.959 Hold it. 3745 02:49:31.120 --> 02:49:33.319 I think because we like that one so much. Maye 3746 02:49:33.360 --> 02:49:36.000 we cut the underbed meeting. I mean that that was 3747 02:49:36.079 --> 02:49:38.559 very funny too. It was very funny. It was very good, 3748 02:49:38.719 --> 02:49:41.200 Like I was there and then you two just like 3749 02:49:41.280 --> 02:49:44.600 showed up and it's like it was the view on camera? 3750 02:49:44.920 --> 02:49:47.000 Was that so everyone home got to see that as well? 3751 02:49:47.079 --> 02:49:48.360 It was just so this is why you're doing not 3752 02:49:48.479 --> 02:49:51.319 here bed meeting bed, meaning let's get stragic, and. 3753 02:49:51.360 --> 02:49:54.639 We're just kind of like vaguely hearing something happened to Tam. 3754 02:49:54.840 --> 02:49:57.360 Maybe check later, it's like, oh, he's just dead. 3755 02:49:58.239 --> 02:49:59.440 It's also a gameplay mechanic. 3756 02:49:59.479 --> 02:50:01.479 If you're under the bed and you're speaking quietly, the 3757 02:50:01.559 --> 02:50:04.319 monsters won't know your characters. 3758 02:50:04.079 --> 02:50:05.520 Are literally whispering like that. 3759 02:50:05.760 --> 02:50:07.799 Yeah, and then the little heads are still flapping. 3760 02:50:08.000 --> 02:50:10.879 It's just it's like that game at its best, for sure, 3761 02:50:11.120 --> 02:50:13.639 But we can cut it, okay, doll man dance? 3762 02:50:13.760 --> 02:50:14.040 Is that that? 3763 02:50:14.559 --> 02:50:14.719 Dan? 3764 02:50:14.799 --> 02:50:16.760 I think I think we could probably let it go, 3765 02:50:17.120 --> 02:50:20.000 because I do think Conflagration is so much better. But 3766 02:50:20.639 --> 02:50:23.440 the way he's just like, hey, Sam, can I show 3767 02:50:23.440 --> 02:50:28.479 you something? And it's like this spotlight set, like this 3768 02:50:29.280 --> 02:50:32.239 pop star shows up and it's all these dollvid like danceing. 3769 02:50:32.280 --> 02:50:33.840 He's like, what the fuck is? That sold me on 3770 02:50:33.879 --> 02:50:34.520 the game, honest. 3771 02:50:34.600 --> 02:50:36.280 But the thing is, it's it's like even better than 3772 02:50:36.319 --> 02:50:38.280 that because it's not like it prompts you for that moment. 3773 02:50:38.440 --> 02:50:40.520 It's just like when you go back and he usually 3774 02:50:40.600 --> 02:50:42.559 has like six or seven Fuck, I didn't mean to 3775 02:50:42.639 --> 02:50:49.360 do that. You know, he'll have a bunch of things 3776 02:50:49.440 --> 02:50:51.959 to say, and one of them is just like, oh, 3777 02:50:52.040 --> 02:50:54.959 I saw you have a Horizon Dreamer on your bipod whatever. 3778 02:50:54.959 --> 02:50:56.440 It's like, oh, that's one of my favorite songs. And 3779 02:50:56.520 --> 02:50:59.079 that's when you have that moment of like hang on, okay, 3780 02:50:59.239 --> 02:51:01.440 you can actually play this. Here does this Surely this 3781 02:51:01.559 --> 02:51:03.079 is going to do something. This is good GiMA and 3782 02:51:03.120 --> 02:51:07.399 not only doesn't acknowledge, it has the most elaborate acknowledgment 3783 02:51:07.440 --> 02:51:10.120 of that that's actually animated very well. It's not just 3784 02:51:10.200 --> 02:51:13.000 copying the movements one. It's like all of the domin 3785 02:51:13.120 --> 02:51:14.399 have their own mo gap and stuff. 3786 02:51:14.440 --> 02:51:15.440 It's great moment. 3787 02:51:16.239 --> 02:51:18.479 The conflagration is incredible choreography. 3788 02:51:18.559 --> 02:51:21.319 Yeaheah amazing. You can like change the lighting of the 3789 02:51:21.399 --> 02:51:21.879 scene and like. 3790 02:51:21.959 --> 02:51:23.799 Yeah, you spend the camera and you see Sam just 3791 02:51:23.840 --> 02:51:24.799 like yeah, it's. 3792 02:51:24.680 --> 02:51:26.520 Like, hey, why'd you spend so much time on this? 3793 02:51:26.600 --> 02:51:31.600 I'm not mad confused. I just want to quickly bring 3794 02:51:31.680 --> 02:51:33.639 up and Roger and I think we should cut it 3795 02:51:33.760 --> 02:51:36.920 because these are all just like gigantic, huge moments, but 3796 02:51:37.040 --> 02:51:42.639 this specific moment is getting married and living life with Roger. Dan, 3797 02:51:42.719 --> 02:51:45.760 You're the only one that's play this. So the main 3798 02:51:45.840 --> 02:51:49.639 player character, her father suffers from dementia. Then it's very 3799 02:51:49.719 --> 02:51:53.760 apparent that she may also be suffering from dementia as well. 3800 02:51:54.280 --> 02:51:57.239 And the one character that is like kind of keeping 3801 02:51:57.360 --> 02:52:01.399 along and keeping on the supporting you is your husband Roger. 3802 02:52:01.760 --> 02:52:05.559 And in this sequence, it's a lot of tense moments, 3803 02:52:05.719 --> 02:52:09.399 a little gameplay sing which is that kind of make 3804 02:52:09.440 --> 02:52:11.799 you question your own sense of reality with the player character, 3805 02:52:12.559 --> 02:52:15.760 and things finally seem like they're like on the straight 3806 02:52:15.799 --> 02:52:18.520 and narrow and things are okay because you were You've 3807 02:52:18.559 --> 02:52:22.760 met Rogers, you're going on dates, You're having this lovely moment, 3808 02:52:23.239 --> 02:52:26.079 and the sequences like pulled straight out of like a 3809 02:52:26.159 --> 02:52:30.079 rom com, straight out of like like a romance novel 3810 02:52:30.159 --> 02:52:32.399 or whatever. And like the way that they gamify it too, 3811 02:52:32.559 --> 02:52:34.799 is that you were like making these two pieces finally 3812 02:52:34.879 --> 02:52:37.920 meet in the middle, and then like and you're going 3813 02:52:38.000 --> 02:52:41.399 down these like storybook or comic book panels of like 3814 02:52:41.520 --> 02:52:46.360 these different tableaux in their life, major milestones, and then 3815 02:52:46.440 --> 02:52:49.040 they pull the rug from underneath you because you think 3816 02:52:49.079 --> 02:52:52.479 everything's so sweet, it's all great, and now you start 3817 02:52:52.559 --> 02:52:56.479 going back through these panels because you can't move forward anymore, 3818 02:52:57.159 --> 02:53:01.479 and it's now you are reliving these sequences you just 3819 02:53:02.079 --> 02:53:05.799 played through, and the player character is now having trouble 3820 02:53:06.479 --> 02:53:09.920 remembering exactly how everything went, and so now these two 3821 02:53:10.000 --> 02:53:13.879 pieces are having difficulty getting to each other. So now 3822 02:53:14.239 --> 02:53:17.399 it's not straight line anymore. You have to like go 3823 02:53:17.559 --> 02:53:19.840 through like a little bit of a maze sequence. And 3824 02:53:20.159 --> 02:53:22.840 just the way that they do this and handle a 3825 02:53:23.040 --> 02:53:27.239 very difficult and sensitive subject like dementia or Alzheimer's, I 3826 02:53:27.280 --> 02:53:30.719 thought was really well done. I definitely know that this 3827 02:53:30.840 --> 02:53:34.399 won't be a I don't think this is the best moment. 3828 02:53:34.440 --> 02:53:37.319 This might be maybe the most saddest moment of this year. 3829 02:53:37.440 --> 02:53:39.639 And I think they for such a small team of 3830 02:53:39.760 --> 02:53:42.399 maybe like one or two people, they handle this very 3831 02:53:42.479 --> 02:53:46.920 well and very maturely. So if you have but again 3832 02:53:47.040 --> 02:53:48.879 content warning, if you have someone in your life that 3833 02:53:48.920 --> 02:53:51.079 suffers from this, or if you were a father or 3834 02:53:51.319 --> 02:53:55.200 like an elderly parent, I would maybe pump the brakes 3835 02:53:55.239 --> 02:53:57.200 and give this one a little bit of time. But like, 3836 02:53:57.280 --> 02:53:58.280 they do this so well. 3837 02:53:58.520 --> 02:54:00.600 But it is very sweet too that like you do 3838 02:54:00.799 --> 02:54:03.319 see like okay, well you see her face kind of age, 3839 02:54:03.319 --> 02:54:05.000 and you realize that you are like an old couple 3840 02:54:05.079 --> 02:54:07.799 now looking back on these things, and you know realizing 3841 02:54:08.239 --> 02:54:10.280 that she's been struggling with this, you know, from a 3842 02:54:10.399 --> 02:54:13.120 young age, and Roger being like, oh, here's our wedding 3843 02:54:13.200 --> 02:54:14.879 picture and I remember, you know, you were so worried 3844 02:54:14.879 --> 02:54:16.959 about remembering the bows and everything. We had to practice 3845 02:54:16.959 --> 02:54:18.520 again and again and it was tough for you. And 3846 02:54:18.680 --> 02:54:22.440 like it is all very affecting and very sweet. 3847 02:54:22.639 --> 02:54:22.719 Ye. 3848 02:54:23.399 --> 02:54:26.520 Hey, lots of games about grief this year. Huh yeah, 3849 02:54:26.760 --> 02:54:29.200 it's not like maybe we're all collectively going through something. 3850 02:54:29.360 --> 02:54:34.280 Maybe tell me about King Carol. That was such a 3851 02:54:34.360 --> 02:54:34.959 great review. 3852 02:54:35.239 --> 02:54:39.399 So I almost like I want to see, like how 3853 02:54:39.559 --> 02:54:41.920 much of this sequence guys stregat on the list, because like, 3854 02:54:42.200 --> 02:54:45.399 really it's like k roll through the End is what 3855 02:54:45.559 --> 02:54:48.079 I would want to talk about here. The reveal of 3856 02:54:48.479 --> 02:54:50.760 Donkey Kong Bonanza. They came up with this new group, 3857 02:54:50.879 --> 02:54:54.760 the New Kongs, you know, the Void Company and Shitheads. 3858 02:54:56.159 --> 02:54:58.079 They're great, you know, I love them, but they're just 3859 02:54:58.159 --> 02:54:59.360 little shitheads. 3860 02:54:58.920 --> 02:55:00.760 Yeah kind of, they're they're kind of a little stinkery, 3861 02:55:00.879 --> 02:55:04.319 especially the main guy. But the reveal is that, like, 3862 02:55:04.520 --> 02:55:06.479 you know, the mcguffe you're trying to get to is 3863 02:55:06.559 --> 02:55:06.760 it the. 3864 02:55:08.360 --> 02:55:11.360 Thing the Gold Finals? 3865 02:55:12.239 --> 02:55:13.920 Yeah, but but you're trying to get to like the 3866 02:55:14.000 --> 02:55:18.159 Golden Banana or whatever banandium rude thank you, and you 3867 02:55:18.319 --> 02:55:19.840 get to it and you're like, oh, well, this is it, 3868 02:55:19.959 --> 02:55:20.280 this is the thing. 3869 02:55:20.840 --> 02:55:22.239 This looks a little weird. What is this? 3870 02:55:22.360 --> 02:55:25.120 And then like you bust it open and it's King 3871 02:55:25.239 --> 02:55:28.440 k Rule's belly and he pops out and it's like, oh, 3872 02:55:28.520 --> 02:55:29.840 it was me the whole time. 3873 02:55:30.200 --> 02:55:32.760 And at first I'm like, well, this is weird. Why 3874 02:55:32.840 --> 02:55:33.680 did they do that? 3875 02:55:34.280 --> 02:55:38.680 And then you realize everything up until then was because 3876 02:55:38.719 --> 02:55:41.680 of k Rule one of his like failed plans. Then 3877 02:55:41.719 --> 02:55:44.440 you know his failed schemes, and that's why everyone's in 3878 02:55:44.559 --> 02:55:48.079 this situation. It all comes together and then it culminates 3879 02:55:48.120 --> 02:55:50.000 and you going to like New Donk City and so 3880 02:55:50.120 --> 02:55:53.879 it ties into Odyssey while also you know, tying it 3881 02:55:54.000 --> 02:55:56.840 into Donkey Kong Country and everything like that. It is 3882 02:55:57.000 --> 02:55:59.559 kind of the developers sort of winking eyeing of like, 3883 02:56:00.200 --> 02:56:01.520 now you thought we were going to get rid of 3884 02:56:01.559 --> 02:56:04.319 all that, Nah, it's all canon. We're paying respect to 3885 02:56:04.399 --> 02:56:08.520 all this stuff because this is this is Donkey Kong sequence. 3886 02:56:08.520 --> 02:56:10.399 People with the new art style and gameplay and everything. 3887 02:56:10.479 --> 02:56:11.799 It's like the look of k Rules. 3888 02:56:15.639 --> 02:56:17.360 Like it's funny because like when you're like playing the game, 3889 02:56:17.360 --> 02:56:19.280 even when that first show happened, there's some people are like, 3890 02:56:19.639 --> 02:56:23.200 why do skeletons kind of look like crocodiles? And you 3891 02:56:23.319 --> 02:56:24.920 kind of talk yourself out of it as you're playing 3892 02:56:24.959 --> 02:56:27.639 the game because there's not that much does show up 3893 02:56:27.799 --> 02:56:30.559 is this awesome surprise. What I'm about too is, you know, 3894 02:56:30.680 --> 02:56:32.360 the boss fights in that game up to that point, 3895 02:56:32.600 --> 02:56:34.920 they're all kind of easy and they're very short. That 3896 02:56:35.079 --> 02:56:36.920 King k Rule boss fight, like both versions of it, 3897 02:56:37.079 --> 02:56:40.239 it's actually substantial. It's interesting. It does have kind of 3898 02:56:40.360 --> 02:56:43.120 fun callbacks to his previous mechanics. It feels like a 3899 02:56:43.399 --> 02:56:45.159 really good final set of boss fights. 3900 02:56:45.200 --> 02:56:48.239 It's also like there's incredible spectacle throughout this whole shit 3901 02:56:48.280 --> 02:56:51.959 wat It is exciting. There's so much happening on the screen, 3902 02:56:52.120 --> 02:56:54.440 and it's got a ton of style, and a lot 3903 02:56:54.479 --> 02:56:56.959 of that style is classic Donkey Kong Country, And it's like, 3904 02:56:57.200 --> 02:56:58.799 after playing the whole game and fall in love with 3905 02:56:58.879 --> 02:57:00.799 the new stuff that is in the game, for them 3906 02:57:00.840 --> 02:57:02.399 to go back to that and both these things working 3907 02:57:02.479 --> 02:57:04.159 side by side and really kind of integrating in a 3908 02:57:04.239 --> 02:57:06.159 strong way of being like, oh man, they just brought 3909 02:57:06.200 --> 02:57:07.840 Donkey Kong all the way together. 3910 02:57:08.120 --> 02:57:10.600 It all hits and you see that or hear that 3911 02:57:10.879 --> 02:57:12.799 in the music, which is you know a little bit 3912 02:57:12.879 --> 02:57:15.760 of like remixing some old tracks and some new music 3913 02:57:15.799 --> 02:57:18.239 as well. It really feels like bringing the new and 3914 02:57:18.360 --> 02:57:19.079 the old together the. 3915 02:57:19.079 --> 02:57:19.840 Best music of the year. 3916 02:57:19.920 --> 02:57:20.120 Chuck. 3917 02:57:20.239 --> 02:57:23.280 Yeah, right, what's happening in that one phase the boss fight? 3918 02:57:23.360 --> 02:57:25.399 Isn't it like a pillar of bananas or something shooting 3919 02:57:25.479 --> 02:57:26.680 up and you're fighting or something like that. 3920 02:57:26.840 --> 02:57:28.920 That's how you get to Yeah, that's how you get 3921 02:57:28.959 --> 02:57:29.639 to Newtong City. 3922 02:57:29.840 --> 02:57:31.799 Yeah, well our wishes to get to the top and 3923 02:57:31.959 --> 02:57:33.879 to have a bunch of bananas, so you just get 3924 02:57:33.959 --> 02:57:37.600 a drill of bananas drilling you up to the surface. 3925 02:57:37.920 --> 02:57:38.360 Very cool. 3926 02:57:38.479 --> 02:57:41.040 It's great set pieces in those files. I was like 3927 02:57:41.200 --> 02:57:42.959 getting to the what I thought was the end. I 3928 02:57:43.079 --> 02:57:45.200 was like, oh, like this is kind of kind of 3929 02:57:45.239 --> 02:57:48.159 like drab or whatever, and then he appears that whole 3930 02:57:48.479 --> 02:57:51.280 final sequences like the yeah, phenomenal. 3931 02:57:51.559 --> 02:57:54.959 Yeah, I do you know, I know I've said some 3932 02:57:55.000 --> 02:57:57.479 crap atrop for I do really like that moment when 3933 02:57:57.479 --> 02:57:57.639 you go. 3934 02:57:57.639 --> 02:58:00.479 To volt Forge for the first time. Yeah, really cool area. 3935 02:58:01.479 --> 02:58:02.559 Do you think it hangs down? 3936 02:58:02.959 --> 02:58:04.959 I think I think It's one of the more notable 3937 02:58:05.239 --> 02:58:07.799 parts of that game, but it's also not my favorite 3938 02:58:07.840 --> 02:58:09.399 moment in that game, as much as I love it 3939 02:58:09.479 --> 02:58:12.520 feels like a very Metroid prime moment of going you know, 3940 02:58:13.760 --> 02:58:17.200 entering in and going up an elevator and this driving guitar, 3941 02:58:17.360 --> 02:58:20.559 this gretty heavy guitar is playing it. It's like, oh, 3942 02:58:20.639 --> 02:58:23.200 this almost feels heavier than they've already gone before, and 3943 02:58:23.559 --> 02:58:25.360 you know, it leads up to getting viola and everything. 3944 02:58:25.760 --> 02:58:30.040 I actually like ice belt unthawing more. That's really I 3945 02:58:30.079 --> 02:58:31.559 thought that whole sequence of like all. 3946 02:58:31.520 --> 02:58:35.760 The tension and the unease, the very like dread of 3947 02:58:35.879 --> 02:58:38.319 it all, you know, the the Metroid fusion scary parts, 3948 02:58:38.920 --> 02:58:40.840 bringing that into prime the way that they have in 3949 02:58:40.879 --> 02:58:43.280 the past before, and then like went on thoughts, guess what, 3950 02:58:43.559 --> 02:58:46.360 everything comes to life and you're in the middle of 3951 02:58:46.479 --> 02:58:48.200 it now you gotta fight your way out. I mean, 3952 02:58:48.360 --> 02:58:51.959 that's an even better moment. I don't think either one 3953 02:58:52.079 --> 02:58:52.360 makes it. 3954 02:58:52.520 --> 02:58:54.000 None of it sounds disappointing, though. 3955 02:58:55.239 --> 02:59:03.440 Weird this guy. So I've cut that ge. We still 3956 02:59:03.479 --> 02:59:05.920 have a lot. I've moved everything to the tippy top 3957 02:59:05.959 --> 02:59:06.600 of the list. 3958 02:59:07.239 --> 02:59:10.120 There's a couple I haven't even talked about we talk 3959 02:59:10.159 --> 02:59:13.600 about ed come with a Spear, talk about it from 3960 02:59:13.600 --> 02:59:16.120 the list kind is so fucking cool to documentary not 3961 02:59:16.239 --> 02:59:18.040 game playing matter. 3962 02:59:18.200 --> 02:59:19.879 We need to point out. It's just like to me, 3963 02:59:20.159 --> 02:59:21.920 like I know, like I'm not like some evil level 3964 02:59:21.959 --> 02:59:24.280 competitive fighting guy, but like moral combat to me is 3965 02:59:24.399 --> 02:59:26.319 like the king of you know, fighting series. And like, 3966 02:59:26.639 --> 02:59:30.559 if there is one iconic move in the history of 3967 02:59:30.719 --> 02:59:33.000 that series, and I would say fighting games in general, 3968 02:59:33.360 --> 02:59:36.479 scorpion spear, right, that is one that is like transcended 3969 02:59:36.680 --> 02:59:38.760 you know, fighting games or even video games. People that 3970 02:59:38.799 --> 02:59:40.760 don't play video games know about get over here and 3971 02:59:40.760 --> 02:59:42.360 all that stuff. That is like one of the most 3972 02:59:42.479 --> 02:59:46.159 iconic gaming things ever. And to see the moment recorded 3973 02:59:46.479 --> 02:59:48.319 when they've just got the guy Daniel Pasina in the 3974 02:59:48.360 --> 02:59:50.639 scorpion suit and he's just getting his il animations and 3975 02:59:50.680 --> 02:59:53.440 all that stuff, and you're seeing a twenty seth year. 3976 02:59:53.319 --> 02:59:54.680 Old at booon bee. Oh you know what would be 3977 02:59:54.719 --> 02:59:55.200 fucking sweet? 3978 02:59:55.239 --> 02:59:57.719 What if you have like a spear and like seeing 3979 02:59:57.840 --> 02:59:59.280 him mind to like get throw it down and like 3980 02:59:59.319 --> 03:00:01.760 pull it back and just seeing that moment caught on 3981 03:00:01.920 --> 03:00:05.040 tape and then released publicly all these years later. To me, 3982 03:00:05.200 --> 03:00:07.360 that was just like, holy shit, I can't believe this 3983 03:00:07.440 --> 03:00:10.719 footage exists. I'm so glad this got out. Probably not 3984 03:00:10.760 --> 03:00:12.440 gonna hang with the others, but like, oh, that was 3985 03:00:12.479 --> 03:00:14.399 so awesome. That's maybe like my favorite piece of like 3986 03:00:14.840 --> 03:00:17.600 video game behind the scenes documentary footage I've ever seen. 3987 03:00:17.719 --> 03:00:19.719 I do very much get what you're saying. I think 3988 03:00:19.719 --> 03:00:21.719 I'm kind of witch chucked, though, like in my head 3989 03:00:21.719 --> 03:00:24.520 at least, that's like the best moment of nineteen ninety 3990 03:00:24.719 --> 03:00:25.319 is kind of like. 3991 03:00:25.399 --> 03:00:27.680 How, no, I know what you're trying to say. 3992 03:00:27.719 --> 03:00:29.399 I get what you're saying, but no, that's not how 3993 03:00:29.440 --> 03:00:31.120 I felt when that. When I experienced it, it felt 3994 03:00:31.239 --> 03:00:34.000 it it connected me back to the nineteen nineties. But 3995 03:00:34.120 --> 03:00:36.799 to see it today and something I had never seen before, 3996 03:00:36.879 --> 03:00:37.479 this is magic. 3997 03:00:37.680 --> 03:00:38.440 It was magic. 3998 03:00:38.559 --> 03:00:40.799 It was Oh my god, I can't believe that in 3999 03:00:40.879 --> 03:00:43.719 twenty twenty five we get to see this moment happen 4000 03:00:43.920 --> 03:00:46.200 with all of the context of all the time that 4001 03:00:46.239 --> 03:00:48.959 has passed since then, and how timeless and important that 4002 03:00:49.079 --> 03:00:50.680 move and that these games have become. 4003 03:00:51.239 --> 03:00:53.000 It is, it's transceiding. 4004 03:00:53.079 --> 03:00:56.239 And if you're more talking about like the experience of 4005 03:00:56.520 --> 03:00:59.440 witnessing this eavelement, yeah, I get what you Yeah. 4006 03:00:59.280 --> 03:01:00.840 And it was the build up because I would imagine 4007 03:01:00.840 --> 03:01:02.760 most people watch all this documentary stuff in the kind 4008 03:01:02.760 --> 03:01:06.000 of the linear you know, timeline and seeing the elements 4009 03:01:06.040 --> 03:01:08.239 that made Mortal Combat Mortal Combat like fall into place. 4010 03:01:08.280 --> 03:01:10.000 Like at first like, okay, we got these cool characters. 4011 03:01:10.040 --> 03:01:11.840 Oh we're doing these digitized actors. Oh what if we 4012 03:01:11.920 --> 03:01:13.680 did fatalities were at the end you could just like 4013 03:01:13.760 --> 03:01:15.600 kill them with the cool thing. And then midway said, yeah, 4014 03:01:15.639 --> 03:01:17.399 go for it. And then you see the spear like 4015 03:01:17.479 --> 03:01:20.799 just slowly watching everything come together that would become one 4016 03:01:20.840 --> 03:01:23.639 of the biggest phenomenon like flashpoints in gaming history. And 4017 03:01:23.799 --> 03:01:26.079 then the Spear is just like that's the best footage 4018 03:01:26.079 --> 03:01:27.639 of all of it, Like it's not gonna make it here, 4019 03:01:27.719 --> 03:01:30.159 but like, oh my god, I would put it on there. 4020 03:01:30.159 --> 03:01:32.040 But there's so much on this list that we do 4021 03:01:32.120 --> 03:01:34.360 have to start cutting. May it makes some hard cuts. 4022 03:01:34.360 --> 03:01:39.840 As as a parlay if you will, I added scorpions 4023 03:01:39.920 --> 03:01:44.000 spear presents best moment or sequts. Okay, all right, I 4024 03:01:44.079 --> 03:01:46.440 can accept this, all right, so thank you, Ed Boone. 4025 03:01:47.520 --> 03:01:50.000 I think you can cut Rainbow Road as well, because 4026 03:01:50.000 --> 03:01:52.520 I just think Donkey Kong has the better Nintendo, asked 4027 03:01:52.600 --> 03:01:53.360 Nintendo Moment. 4028 03:01:53.559 --> 03:01:56.799 Yeah, we haven't talked about keep up yet. I think 4029 03:01:56.879 --> 03:01:59.479 we should keep cutting a couple things, Mike. For as 4030 03:01:59.600 --> 03:02:01.399 much as I like Silent Hill F I think it 4031 03:02:01.600 --> 03:02:04.799 is on my top ten, I think compared to some 4032 03:02:04.920 --> 03:02:10.239 of this other stuff, we could cut. Okay, uh, may 4033 03:02:10.840 --> 03:02:11.399 remaining here. 4034 03:02:12.120 --> 03:02:14.559 I stand by cutting the double Jump. I know it's good, 4035 03:02:14.639 --> 03:02:16.079 it's it's one of the best one of those. But 4036 03:02:16.159 --> 03:02:18.520 I do think it's a similar feeling that a lot 4037 03:02:18.559 --> 03:02:21.239 of games, and I do still I do I prefer 4038 03:02:21.319 --> 03:02:22.479 the Prince of Persia one over the. 4039 03:02:22.520 --> 03:02:24.079 Okay, all right, cutting that? 4040 03:02:25.399 --> 03:02:28.319 Can we can we expand the Donkey Kongman to just 4041 03:02:28.399 --> 03:02:31.239 be like the ending and people that I mean, it's 4042 03:02:31.280 --> 03:02:32.280 everything that we talked about. 4043 03:02:32.319 --> 03:02:34.360 I mean, but King k Role is part of the ending, 4044 03:02:34.639 --> 03:02:35.000 I know, but. 4045 03:02:35.000 --> 03:02:37.040 I just want to be like when we're shouting out 4046 03:02:37.120 --> 03:02:39.639 very specifically, we mean, like the ending sequence of bonanza. 4047 03:02:40.520 --> 03:02:42.079 Yeah, keep king. 4048 03:02:43.639 --> 03:02:44.680 Maybe yeah, keep King King. 4049 03:02:45.399 --> 03:02:49.399 There's somewhere King k Rule presents the King k Rule 4050 03:02:49.520 --> 03:02:56.079 ending sequence. Okay, it works, all right? At talk about 4051 03:02:56.120 --> 03:02:56.639 keep up? Yeah. 4052 03:02:58.280 --> 03:02:59.399 Yeah, So we've mentioned. 4053 03:02:59.200 --> 03:03:03.559 Before Chase is a very important member in dispatch, specifically 4054 03:03:03.559 --> 03:03:07.799 in Robert's life older brother figure hadn't seen each other 4055 03:03:07.879 --> 03:03:11.159 in a while because of just the way Robert's life went, 4056 03:03:11.280 --> 03:03:15.840 and then chase his life as a superhero, not quite 4057 03:03:15.920 --> 03:03:18.360 panning out the way he did because he didn't realize 4058 03:03:18.879 --> 03:03:24.319 his super speed also dramatically aged him so to in 4059 03:03:24.399 --> 03:03:27.799 an order in order to preserve his own lifespan, he 4060 03:03:27.879 --> 03:03:30.760 had to retire from being a superhero. And then in 4061 03:03:30.879 --> 03:03:32.280 a very tense sequence. 4062 03:03:32.120 --> 03:03:35.159 The superherome was track Star Star speed Star, one of 4063 03:03:35.200 --> 03:03:36.200 the stars Stars. 4064 03:03:37.680 --> 03:03:40.920 And then to get the what is it called the 4065 03:03:42.360 --> 03:03:46.319 the energy the pulse, in Visigal kind of goes a 4066 03:03:46.479 --> 03:03:52.360 wall and decides to infiltrate uh shroud warehouse. It wasn't 4067 03:03:52.360 --> 03:03:54.440 a Shroud's warehouse. It was a warehouse where it was 4068 03:03:54.760 --> 03:03:57.200 at the time. But like all right, the people who got. 4069 03:03:57.079 --> 03:03:58.840 After the explosion of them game. 4070 03:03:58.760 --> 03:04:03.680 Yeh, infiltrate that in order to help Robert out. It's 4071 03:04:03.760 --> 03:04:07.719 later revealed some other ulterior motives, but that's besides the point. 4072 03:04:08.319 --> 03:04:10.559 And at this point, depending on how you play the game, 4073 03:04:11.479 --> 03:04:14.000 I guess it doesn't matter. But in Visigal and Robert 4074 03:04:14.079 --> 03:04:16.920 have developed a kinship and for some people maybe a 4075 03:04:16.959 --> 03:04:21.600 little bit more but obviously there's that care with Robert 4076 03:04:22.000 --> 03:04:25.719 and in Visigal, and because in Visigal's powers is that 4077 03:04:25.799 --> 03:04:27.920 she just turns invisible, not a lot of offense in 4078 03:04:28.000 --> 03:04:31.639 there to get herself out of a sticky situation. Troud, 4079 03:04:31.879 --> 03:04:36.319 the game's big bad winds up being there. She gets 4080 03:04:36.399 --> 03:04:41.040 overpowered in in such a way where her inhaler gets 4081 03:04:41.079 --> 03:04:43.360 kicked out because her breathing is very important and tied 4082 03:04:43.399 --> 03:04:46.879 to her power of invisibility, and it kind of seems 4083 03:04:46.920 --> 03:04:49.920 like it's pretty fucked up, and that she may die 4084 03:04:50.079 --> 03:04:54.799 in this specific sequence. And also this whole time, Chase 4085 03:04:54.840 --> 03:04:58.639 has kind of just been in the background, just adding quips, adding. 4086 03:04:58.760 --> 03:05:02.000 Warning Robert about ins Yes, because he does not like her. 4087 03:05:02.120 --> 03:05:03.280 He is very critical. 4088 03:05:03.440 --> 03:05:06.719 Yes, Yes, he is that friend that will he think 4089 03:05:06.959 --> 03:05:08.799 he thinks she has the maturity of a sixteen year old. 4090 03:05:08.879 --> 03:05:12.520 Yes, and he is right, he's not wrong. But he's 4091 03:05:12.559 --> 03:05:15.520 just like, hey, this bad egg. Yes, fuck her, I 4092 03:05:15.639 --> 03:05:16.840 want you to stay away from her. 4093 03:05:17.000 --> 03:05:19.719 Yes, he is that friend. He is that homie that 4094 03:05:19.840 --> 03:05:23.879 tells you get your head out of your ass, look 4095 03:05:24.520 --> 03:05:26.840 look around, because this person is not good for you. 4096 03:05:27.040 --> 03:05:27.239 Dog. 4097 03:05:28.040 --> 03:05:32.879 But Robert just so in his own head for whatever purposes. 4098 03:05:33.399 --> 03:05:36.600 So as a player, we all think in Visaguel is 4099 03:05:36.760 --> 03:05:38.680 screwed in this moment, Croud is going to get her, 4100 03:05:38.760 --> 03:05:41.959 either kill her or take her as a hostage. And 4101 03:05:42.040 --> 03:05:45.280 then you just look to your side, as Robert, you 4102 03:05:45.360 --> 03:05:47.520 look away from the monitor and you just hear Chase 4103 03:05:48.200 --> 03:05:52.200 say keep up yep, and he's in his like pose 4104 03:05:52.280 --> 03:05:57.760 as track Star before away and then he just speeds away. 4105 03:05:58.280 --> 03:06:00.479 But the little detail that I love that they added 4106 03:06:00.520 --> 03:06:02.559 to this is that he doesn't take the most direct 4107 03:06:02.680 --> 03:06:04.840 route to get to her because he knows he can 4108 03:06:04.920 --> 03:06:07.360 get to her. But I think he knows that this 4109 03:06:07.479 --> 03:06:12.799 could be his last, literally his last, So he goes 4110 03:06:12.879 --> 03:06:15.239 around the block a couple of times, just like feel 4111 03:06:15.280 --> 03:06:18.200 it one more time because he knows that this is 4112 03:06:18.319 --> 03:06:21.319 probably it, because again it's aging him every time. Already, 4113 03:06:21.639 --> 03:06:23.879 appearance appearents have like a seventy to eighty year old 4114 03:06:23.959 --> 03:06:29.000 yea yeah, and in Canaon, yeah he's only forty. So 4115 03:06:29.319 --> 03:06:32.639 he picks up in Visigal and then he drops her 4116 03:06:32.680 --> 03:06:36.319 off at a nearby park, saves her from Shroud, and 4117 03:06:36.440 --> 03:06:39.319 the whole time the only thing Robert can do is 4118 03:06:39.479 --> 03:06:43.680 just watch from the monitors, and it just highlights how 4119 03:06:43.799 --> 03:06:47.280 much further powerless Robert has felt, and then just how 4120 03:06:48.120 --> 03:06:51.760 it highlights the relationship between in visigal And and how 4121 03:06:51.840 --> 03:06:54.760 much of a volatile character she is, Like is she 4122 03:06:54.879 --> 03:06:58.120 a good friend? Is she a good person? Because someone 4123 03:06:58.159 --> 03:07:02.719 that is ostensibly my brother is now dead because of her, And. 4124 03:07:02.760 --> 03:07:05.360 It's it's it's the whole thing with Chase's character of 4125 03:07:05.479 --> 03:07:08.879 like he is modeling the behavior of I'm gonna be 4126 03:07:09.120 --> 03:07:11.600 honest about my opinion about these people. I'm gonna tell 4127 03:07:11.600 --> 03:07:13.719 you when someone sucks, if they suck, and I'm not 4128 03:07:13.760 --> 03:07:16.280 gonna hold back ever, and I'm gonna I'm gonna also 4129 03:07:16.319 --> 03:07:18.920 I'm gonna be capable of holding these feelings. And then 4130 03:07:18.920 --> 03:07:22.040 when the time comes when they're in trouble, who gives 4131 03:07:22.040 --> 03:07:22.799 a shit about any of that. 4132 03:07:22.840 --> 03:07:24.399 I'm a superhero. I'm gonna do the right thing. 4133 03:07:24.559 --> 03:07:28.040 Yes, And it's like, oh, that these are the things 4134 03:07:28.040 --> 03:07:30.120 that Robert will have to continue to struggle with and 4135 03:07:30.200 --> 03:07:32.239 has struggled with, and it's maybe failed a couple of 4136 03:07:32.280 --> 03:07:34.360 times as you as you've made these choices in the story, 4137 03:07:34.639 --> 03:07:36.120 and it kind of it's like a reminder of like 4138 03:07:37.559 --> 03:07:41.079 you you can hold these opposing ideas, but at the 4139 03:07:41.159 --> 03:07:42.000 end of the day, what are you? 4140 03:07:42.120 --> 03:07:42.680 Are you a hero? 4141 03:07:42.879 --> 03:07:44.840 Then do the right thing when we're faced with that 4142 03:07:44.920 --> 03:07:46.920 in that moment, it's really good and like I was like, 4143 03:07:47.079 --> 03:07:49.440 as it was happening, I'm predicting, like he's probably gonna 4144 03:07:49.440 --> 03:07:51.440 go do this. And the reason that like, when it happens, 4145 03:07:51.479 --> 03:07:53.319 it's not like oh I predicted that. What Oh they 4146 03:07:53.479 --> 03:07:56.120 ruined the twist. It's like, no, thematically, it was the 4147 03:07:56.200 --> 03:07:58.920 right choice for the story. And it's a hit even 4148 03:07:59.000 --> 03:08:01.319 harder because I'm like, Okay, they get what they're doing here. 4149 03:08:01.360 --> 03:08:03.120 They really understand how to write these characters. 4150 03:08:03.120 --> 03:08:06.239 And like I love Robert's dialogue there at the animals, 4151 03:08:06.319 --> 03:08:08.079 just like, oh fuck oshit, where are my keys? I 4152 03:08:08.200 --> 03:08:11.639 gotta go yeah and check in on him. It's the 4153 03:08:11.760 --> 03:08:16.079 moment so I binge played all of Dispatch after every 4154 03:08:16.120 --> 03:08:18.479 episode was out. It's the moment that made me say, 4155 03:08:18.600 --> 03:08:20.840 I wish I would have done Sweet to Week because 4156 03:08:21.399 --> 03:08:23.280 they leave you on a cliffhanger with that. That was 4157 03:08:23.360 --> 03:08:27.079 the end of that week's episodes, Like you do find 4158 03:08:27.120 --> 03:08:29.959 out that you know, Chase is in critical condition. He 4159 03:08:30.000 --> 03:08:33.239 didn't quite die, but he probably is going to and 4160 03:08:33.319 --> 03:08:35.399 they go other places with that in the story. But 4161 03:08:35.479 --> 03:08:37.840 it's just man, it hits so hard. 4162 03:08:38.799 --> 03:08:40.840 I mean, we can make a whole moment of sequence 4163 03:08:40.879 --> 03:08:43.920 out of this with his return, Yeah, I mean because 4164 03:08:43.920 --> 03:08:45.840 that that's completing that sequence that. 4165 03:08:46.000 --> 03:08:48.239 I mean with him and Bond Blazer and like how 4166 03:08:48.280 --> 03:08:49.079 that yeah. 4167 03:08:50.879 --> 03:08:53.159 Cheap in the near death at all for you though, 4168 03:08:53.360 --> 03:08:55.040 I don't know, so, I don't think so. 4169 03:08:55.159 --> 03:08:57.239 Yeah, I don't think so, because it's also there's also 4170 03:08:57.319 --> 03:09:00.280 sacrifice there. Blonde Blazer is giving her power as a 4171 03:09:00.319 --> 03:09:03.920 super it's not like the next first and seconds him, 4172 03:09:04.040 --> 03:09:05.959 and it's like that she does. 4173 03:09:05.920 --> 03:09:08.239 Expect to get it back, at least in my playthrough. 4174 03:09:08.000 --> 03:09:09.879 They're going to figure it out, right, Well, well, yeah, 4175 03:09:09.879 --> 03:09:12.680 Well what she's saying is like, because I think there's 4176 03:09:12.680 --> 03:09:16.520 sort of the vibe of this is maybe even only temporary. 4177 03:09:16.680 --> 03:09:19.040 We'll see what happens. I think if there is a dispatch, 4178 03:09:19.239 --> 03:09:21.879 that's probably what they'll get into. Yeah, season two. But 4179 03:09:21.920 --> 03:09:25.040 it's just the fact that's like everyone is giving up 4180 03:09:25.120 --> 03:09:28.079 something because they want to make the people in their 4181 03:09:28.159 --> 03:09:31.000 lives they really respect. Yeah, they want to keep everyone 4182 03:09:31.040 --> 03:09:32.159 happy and keep the team together. 4183 03:09:32.559 --> 03:09:34.360 So I assume you don't want to bold that one. 4184 03:09:36.840 --> 03:09:38.639 I don't disagree. I feel like if that was on 4185 03:09:38.840 --> 03:09:41.840 a TV show, everybody would have been talking about it. Also, 4186 03:09:42.239 --> 03:09:46.319 Jeffrey Wright's performance like across the Board specifically that like wow, 4187 03:09:48.280 --> 03:09:52.559 maybe bold the Kayla one as our yeah Maybematically they're 4188 03:09:52.559 --> 03:09:53.159 almost the same. 4189 03:09:54.799 --> 03:09:56.200 How many do we have to cut? 4190 03:09:56.280 --> 03:09:59.159 At this point, I'm pretty serious about getting Mommy on 4191 03:09:59.239 --> 03:10:01.239 there into the top three. 4192 03:10:01.319 --> 03:10:02.760 You sell me, I'll back you up on this. 4193 03:10:02.879 --> 03:10:06.520 So it's like a question, So you finished the Man 4194 03:10:06.600 --> 03:10:09.239 Breaker and that's this whole ordeal, and then does it 4195 03:10:09.280 --> 03:10:10.799 give you a moment till you said there's like she 4196 03:10:11.000 --> 03:10:12.799 puts you on top of another cliff, right, does it 4197 03:10:12.799 --> 03:10:14.319 give you a moment where you think like, oh fuck, 4198 03:10:14.399 --> 03:10:15.079 now I have to do this? 4199 03:10:15.719 --> 03:10:17.600 Or is it just kind of like a cut scene. 4200 03:10:18.120 --> 03:10:19.799 So it's like when you get up there, first you 4201 03:10:19.920 --> 03:10:22.600 talk to the guy who built the stairs and then 4202 03:10:22.680 --> 03:10:25.239 says like basically like you you won't be able to 4203 03:10:25.239 --> 03:10:26.719 do the Man Breaker, just take the stairs and you 4204 03:10:26.840 --> 03:10:28.639 kind of challenges you have that stuff. Yeah, you have 4205 03:10:28.680 --> 03:10:30.319 a conversation with him and that's whatever, and then you 4206 03:10:30.399 --> 03:10:32.959 walk to the fire fire and that's like it kind 4207 03:10:33.000 --> 03:10:35.159 of fades out and you fade back up and then 4208 03:10:36.040 --> 03:10:38.600 she smiles down on you, puts you up there on 4209 03:10:38.639 --> 03:10:40.719 the cliff, and then you basically are walking to the 4210 03:10:40.799 --> 03:10:43.120 end of the game at that point that there's one 4211 03:10:43.200 --> 03:10:44.840 more sequence where it is like, oh my god, I 4212 03:10:44.920 --> 03:10:46.159 have to do this, and that's the train. 4213 03:10:46.879 --> 03:10:47.079 Yeah. 4214 03:10:47.200 --> 03:10:49.600 So, like I guess just to understand the moment more like, 4215 03:10:50.840 --> 03:10:52.440 is there a moment where you think you're going to 4216 03:10:52.479 --> 03:10:54.399 have to do something and then she helps you. 4217 03:10:54.559 --> 03:10:57.120 No, it's not about that, No, No, it's it's about 4218 03:10:57.239 --> 03:10:59.479 like I mean, she does help you get up a 4219 03:10:59.479 --> 03:11:01.920 cliff you would be able to up otherwise. Like it's 4220 03:11:01.959 --> 03:11:04.280 presented as like this kind of rock face, but it's 4221 03:11:04.319 --> 03:11:07.639 really just like I've rejected help so much up to 4222 03:11:07.719 --> 03:11:10.239 this point. I see, and the character has done it 4223 03:11:10.319 --> 03:11:12.040 as well. I'm doing it when I did The Man Breaker. 4224 03:11:12.159 --> 03:11:14.840 The character Nate every situation is and he's surrounded by 4225 03:11:14.879 --> 03:11:18.760 people who are ostensibly friendly. They never go the step 4226 03:11:18.799 --> 03:11:20.879 of assuming that he is going to need the thing 4227 03:11:20.959 --> 03:11:23.040 that he does need that whatever help that is. They 4228 03:11:23.079 --> 03:11:24.719 are waiting for him to ask for it, and he 4229 03:11:24.799 --> 03:11:28.000 doesn't have the value. He doesn't value himself enough to 4230 03:11:28.079 --> 03:11:30.159 believe that he is worthy to ask people for anything. 4231 03:11:30.719 --> 03:11:34.559 And so this is like the Mommy character is just saying, 4232 03:11:35.120 --> 03:11:37.840 I'm no questions. I'm not going to force you to 4233 03:11:37.920 --> 03:11:38.319 ask me. 4234 03:11:38.680 --> 03:11:39.000 I am not. 4235 03:11:39.120 --> 03:11:42.200 I understand what you need. I understand how alone you feel, 4236 03:11:42.399 --> 03:11:44.280 and I'm going to just give you what you need 4237 03:11:44.399 --> 03:11:45.879 right now, and then I'm gonna set you down and 4238 03:11:46.000 --> 03:11:48.879 let you go. And it's it's it's again very powerful, 4239 03:11:49.040 --> 03:11:51.079 and I think that is eventually what gives him the 4240 03:11:51.079 --> 03:11:53.319 confidence of like, oh, I do have some value. When 4241 03:11:53.360 --> 03:11:55.479 he goes up to the door and finally asks, hey, 4242 03:11:55.520 --> 03:11:56.280 can I come inside? 4243 03:11:56.280 --> 03:11:56.760 I'm cold? 4244 03:11:57.000 --> 03:11:59.479 Can I come sit by your fire? That like that 4245 03:11:59.680 --> 03:12:00.879 hits the even harder because of. 4246 03:12:00.879 --> 03:12:04.920 That, He's like, can I use your toilet? Yeah? Your toilet? 4247 03:12:05.319 --> 03:12:06.440 He has to the whole. 4248 03:12:08.799 --> 03:12:12.799 I am wondering, actually if the Kayla Art Greaters thing 4249 03:12:12.920 --> 03:12:14.559 hangs with some of these other moments. 4250 03:12:14.920 --> 03:12:17.319 I mean, so it's so good, but yeah, I'm I'm 4251 03:12:17.600 --> 03:12:20.040 trying to get both these on. So yeah, here's what we. 4252 03:12:20.120 --> 03:12:21.559 Do, Kayla. 4253 03:12:23.799 --> 03:12:27.159 Yeah, okay, we're doing good workouts out. Kayla shouts out 4254 03:12:27.159 --> 03:12:31.639 to Kayla. What a wild card? Huh oh yeah yeah, yeah, 4255 03:12:32.879 --> 03:12:36.520 weirder than Dan wo Yeah I said. 4256 03:12:36.360 --> 03:12:38.520 It, weirder than Mintion not weird. 4257 03:12:38.920 --> 03:12:43.840 I don't know King k rules whole ending sequence. 4258 03:12:43.959 --> 03:12:46.520 Well, I see this is probably my favorite one on here, 4259 03:12:47.120 --> 03:12:48.719 and I'm like, I'm weird because I don't think I 4260 03:12:48.760 --> 03:12:51.319 can sell it as well as I can say it 4261 03:12:51.440 --> 03:12:52.520 was really cool and fun. 4262 03:12:52.639 --> 03:12:54.280 I mean I would, I would keep it on there, 4263 03:12:54.280 --> 03:12:55.920 but I think that you're right about some of these 4264 03:12:55.920 --> 03:12:56.239 other ones. 4265 03:12:56.280 --> 03:12:58.319 Oh no, that's my second favorite as well, So like 4266 03:12:58.399 --> 03:12:59.680 I'm behind this one as well. 4267 03:12:59.799 --> 03:13:03.280 I'd i'd rather than the versal versus myl fight, which 4268 03:13:03.319 --> 03:13:06.040 is the other one like I could speak to, but 4269 03:13:06.319 --> 03:13:08.079 I love that. I think Expedition thirty three is kind 4270 03:13:08.079 --> 03:13:10.600 of just riding moment to moment to moments, so even 4271 03:13:10.680 --> 03:13:13.479 that one doesn't necessarily hang out insanely. I just kind 4272 03:13:13.520 --> 03:13:14.479 of think of that game as. 4273 03:13:14.719 --> 03:13:17.799 Right, Yeah, when I think of Sorry Chuck, when I 4274 03:13:17.920 --> 03:13:21.799 think of like Expedition thirty three, like it still kind 4275 03:13:21.840 --> 03:13:24.280 of is hard to think about like a specific moment, 4276 03:13:24.799 --> 03:13:26.680 and like this was a struggle to just pick this 4277 03:13:26.920 --> 03:13:30.159 moment in itself because like we don't even start with this, right, 4278 03:13:30.200 --> 03:13:33.799 we can't. Yeah, this like wound up popping up, So 4279 03:13:33.959 --> 03:13:37.319 like I think I would be okay because the game 4280 03:13:37.399 --> 03:13:41.639 as a whole, as a whole package just feels very important, 4281 03:13:41.639 --> 03:13:44.120 and especially because like I didn't like Versu at first, 4282 03:13:44.639 --> 03:13:47.879 when he gets introduced your party afterwards, it's like, my main. 4283 03:13:47.799 --> 03:13:50.639 Guy, we don't have the best narrative or story or 4284 03:13:50.680 --> 03:13:53.120 whatever character or category if we did this year, do 4285 03:13:53.120 --> 03:13:55.799 you guys think Expedition thirty, Oh my god, yeah it did. 4286 03:13:56.840 --> 03:13:58.319 It was a mirror in that. 4287 03:13:58.799 --> 03:14:01.520 It's right when I ever give a shit about a 4288 03:14:01.799 --> 03:14:05.479 very fantastical jail. Some of the story, like a moment. 4289 03:14:05.280 --> 03:14:07.280 Ago, remember the story. 4290 03:14:07.479 --> 03:14:10.520 I liked the character. I think it was a fact. 4291 03:14:10.879 --> 03:14:14.840 I mean story like one of my favorite maybe my 4292 03:14:14.920 --> 03:14:19.799 favorite god well like French people. Honestly, the fact that 4293 03:14:19.879 --> 03:14:21.840 it made me care about that and love this game. 4294 03:14:22.280 --> 03:14:24.079 I cannot believe. 4295 03:14:27.879 --> 03:14:28.280 Fantasy. 4296 03:14:29.360 --> 03:14:31.760 I was going to bring up about k Rule if 4297 03:14:31.840 --> 03:14:35.120 I have a critique there. I think that sequence goes 4298 03:14:35.200 --> 03:14:37.079 on a little too long. 4299 03:14:37.200 --> 03:14:37.719 It's long. 4300 03:14:38.719 --> 03:14:40.479 It's fun though, and it does escalate. 4301 03:14:41.799 --> 03:14:44.639 I think it's better than it like honestly going too short, 4302 03:14:44.680 --> 03:14:46.120 and a lot of times that's better because you like 4303 03:14:46.239 --> 03:14:47.840 leave one and more and stuff. But in this case, 4304 03:14:47.840 --> 03:14:49.639 it's like I didn't think they were going to do it, 4305 03:14:50.079 --> 03:14:51.639 and then they did it, and I wanted to spend 4306 03:14:51.639 --> 03:14:53.319 as much time in there as possible, like with all 4307 03:14:53.360 --> 03:14:56.000 these things, but I mean, you're not You're also not wrong. 4308 03:14:56.159 --> 03:14:58.239 I do think though, that they just they stuck the 4309 03:14:58.360 --> 03:15:02.440 landing like they did Donkey Bonanza is basically a playable 4310 03:15:02.520 --> 03:15:06.040 Pixar movie the way that the characters interact, and I 4311 03:15:06.120 --> 03:15:08.840 think they earn that ending sequence. I think that it 4312 03:15:09.000 --> 03:15:11.159 is that big culmination. You know, there's almost like a 4313 03:15:11.280 --> 03:15:14.360 musical moment stuff because this music music themed, and I 4314 03:15:14.520 --> 03:15:16.360 just think every part of it is very fun. 4315 03:15:16.719 --> 03:15:20.959 So it sounds like R three maybe Mommy baby steps 4316 03:15:21.120 --> 03:15:23.440 King Kroll ending sequence and then keep up. 4317 03:15:24.079 --> 03:15:25.840 I would say, Okay, out of the three that are 4318 03:15:25.920 --> 03:15:29.399 kind of on the possible chopping block here Destraining two, 4319 03:15:29.520 --> 03:15:32.319 Claire Obscure, and King Carol, I have played and loved 4320 03:15:32.319 --> 03:15:36.120 all three of those games, I do love that conflagration 4321 03:15:36.319 --> 03:15:38.600 sequence a ton. I mean it is kind of like 4322 03:15:38.920 --> 03:15:41.719 everything I love about Kajima distilled into one kind of 4323 03:15:41.799 --> 03:15:44.879 short chapter. Looking at this thing kind of like jaw 4324 03:15:45.040 --> 03:15:46.639 on the floor, It's like, oh, this is the coolest 4325 03:15:46.639 --> 03:15:47.879 thing I've ever seen in a video game. 4326 03:15:47.959 --> 03:15:51.360 That scene is the game I want death Stranding two 4327 03:15:51.520 --> 03:15:54.319 to be like I want, I want that that scene 4328 03:15:54.520 --> 03:15:57.000 is like Middle Gear at its coolest. It is, it 4329 03:15:57.079 --> 03:16:01.040 is Kajima at his best boy. I mean, it's the 4330 03:16:01.120 --> 03:16:04.280 best sequence in both dest Training games by a mile. 4331 03:16:04.399 --> 03:16:07.520 I think I'll just toss my opinion on it out there, 4332 03:16:07.600 --> 03:16:11.000 though you guys haven't sold me on it in the 4333 03:16:11.040 --> 03:16:14.799 way that the Mommy sequence and Baby Steps sold me on. 4334 03:16:15.079 --> 03:16:17.639 I think the thing is more than anything else. This 4335 03:16:17.959 --> 03:16:20.639 needs to kind of be seen and heard, like the 4336 03:16:20.680 --> 03:16:24.639 Mommy thing is a story based on conceptual and and 4337 03:16:24.680 --> 03:16:28.200 and then the message of it. This is purely audio visual, 4338 03:16:28.680 --> 03:16:29.959 tone vibe. 4339 03:16:30.399 --> 03:16:33.000 And you're not You're still not selling me on it. 4340 03:16:35.559 --> 03:16:37.840 When I saw it, I was I did like get 4341 03:16:37.879 --> 03:16:40.520 it and was into it. But it's like, is it 4342 03:16:40.879 --> 03:16:41.000 is it? 4343 03:16:41.040 --> 03:16:45.000 It's is it just a spectacle? Like I'm not that, yeah, 4344 03:16:45.680 --> 03:16:49.360 just spectacles dismissive? Is it the spectacle which did blow 4345 03:16:49.440 --> 03:16:51.479 me away? And then the tone was there so well? 4346 03:16:51.520 --> 03:16:54.159 I mean I didn't even know how to check it's 4347 03:16:54.200 --> 03:16:58.239 not just ado, you know. My My question is for 4348 03:16:58.719 --> 03:17:02.479 the bonanza folks, does the King k Rule ending sequence? 4349 03:17:02.559 --> 03:17:05.399 Does that really only play if you're super familiar with 4350 03:17:05.600 --> 03:17:09.360 everything versus conflagration, which could be I don't know, but 4351 03:17:09.399 --> 03:17:10.040 I don't care. 4352 03:17:10.200 --> 03:17:12.879 The thing is like, oh, people who are only into Nintendo. 4353 03:17:13.000 --> 03:17:14.799 That's hundreds of millions of people on Earth. 4354 03:17:15.079 --> 03:17:18.040 But also I'm a huge Nintendo guy and nostalgia for 4355 03:17:18.120 --> 03:17:20.399 Donkey Haong and everything. I would definitely take de Tranding 4356 03:17:20.440 --> 03:17:21.399 over the KK roll thing. 4357 03:17:22.959 --> 03:17:25.639 We could split the difference, eliminate them both and put 4358 03:17:26.000 --> 03:17:30.959 the French people in. I actually like that, and I 4359 03:17:31.120 --> 03:17:33.680 like both of those. But and I was fighting for conflagration, 4360 03:17:33.799 --> 03:17:37.360 but I think that's a fair I cut chucks French. 4361 03:17:37.959 --> 03:17:42.159 M Nope, German. Have we have we shot down Dan 4362 03:17:42.239 --> 03:17:44.760 a lot during Game of the Year? My question, two, Yes, 4363 03:17:44.840 --> 03:17:45.959 we have. I thought about that too. 4364 03:17:46.280 --> 03:17:47.760 Part of me is like, maybe I need a left Dan, 4365 03:17:47.879 --> 03:17:48.239 get one. 4366 03:17:48.760 --> 03:17:52.200 You know what, Dan, I'll erase both of these people. 4367 03:17:52.760 --> 03:17:57.479 Who oh that too much between the two. You can't 4368 03:17:57.600 --> 03:18:01.159 kill I know what not happening. 4369 03:18:01.200 --> 03:18:08.440 I'm I can't be ridiculous. 4370 03:18:10.239 --> 03:18:12.120 I mean probably not hanging around. 4371 03:18:12.280 --> 03:18:14.719 It's it's the one I would cut right now. 4372 03:18:14.799 --> 03:18:19.000 I would kind of to a revoir. Hey, that's what 4373 03:18:19.079 --> 03:18:23.520 the French say, Yeah, still need one more here? 4374 03:18:24.079 --> 03:18:30.719 That's rough, that's rough, And to reiterate just and I 4375 03:18:30.840 --> 03:18:34.040 realize I'm alone on baby steps now, and I appreciate 4376 03:18:34.079 --> 03:18:35.639 everyone said I want a lot of you over, but 4377 03:18:35.760 --> 03:18:38.719 I want to like it's like a top two sort 4378 03:18:38.760 --> 03:18:41.319 of like most impactful moment in game for me. It's 4379 03:18:41.399 --> 03:18:43.520 the only really other time I've felt that way is 4380 03:18:43.719 --> 03:18:46.159 uh Octo Dead and the time when I was thinking 4381 03:18:46.159 --> 03:18:48.280 about becoming a dad and feeling like an imposter and. 4382 03:18:48.280 --> 03:18:50.959 Stuff like that. It's like, oh, that great. That's affected 4383 03:18:51.000 --> 03:18:53.000 me to this day. This will be something I carry 4384 03:18:53.040 --> 03:18:55.079 with me for no. The way you talked about it, 4385 03:18:55.120 --> 03:18:56.760 Grub is like, you know, I feel like you and 4386 03:18:56.840 --> 03:18:59.360 I are like cut from similar cloths. And then sometimes 4387 03:18:59.440 --> 03:19:02.040 for someone to you just extend a level of generosity, 4388 03:19:02.159 --> 03:19:05.639 no questions asked, is like get more. It's so human, 4389 03:19:05.799 --> 03:19:08.760 like everyone just wants to go back to the mother, right. 4390 03:19:08.879 --> 03:19:10.680 It's funny how much people who have been saying mommy 4391 03:19:10.760 --> 03:19:11.159 because of. 4392 03:19:11.200 --> 03:19:16.120 It, so I think mommy is also a lot shouts 4393 03:19:16.159 --> 03:19:18.440 out to mommy's sounds because I don't want to upset 4394 03:19:18.479 --> 03:19:19.760 my friend Jeff. I appreciate that. 4395 03:19:20.000 --> 03:19:22.000 I don't want to set my friend Dan or my 4396 03:19:22.079 --> 03:19:26.680 friend Sean, like, like, look, I regus about myself, like 4397 03:19:26.719 --> 03:19:28.879 I'm writy to back down because like I just I 4398 03:19:28.920 --> 03:19:29.760 don't know, but like. 4399 03:19:32.879 --> 03:19:34.959 I I mean, yeah, I mean I love both the 4400 03:19:35.120 --> 03:19:37.200 kink Rule and Conflagration, but like King k Rule, I 4401 03:19:37.319 --> 03:19:39.840 was like smiling during that whole you know, last hour 4402 03:19:39.959 --> 03:19:41.479 or so, like, oh, that's such a cool thing, what 4403 03:19:41.600 --> 03:19:43.680 a cool throwback, like the gameplay wise cool and New 4404 03:19:43.760 --> 03:19:45.719 Dunk City, like there is just one thing after another. 4405 03:19:45.959 --> 03:19:48.159 Then I really really liked and I'm very much the 4406 03:19:48.280 --> 03:19:52.079 audience for that type of stuff. But you know, I've 4407 03:19:52.120 --> 03:19:53.879 never seen anything like that Conflagration Jeff. 4408 03:19:53.920 --> 03:19:56.079 And also like if they are both spectacle, I was 4409 03:19:56.159 --> 03:20:01.479 actually more impressed by the Conflagrations, Like I feel. 4410 03:20:01.280 --> 03:20:02.840 Like keep up is gonna win? Can we just have 4411 03:20:02.959 --> 03:20:09.399 three runners up? No Rule, I didn't know I was 4412 03:20:09.639 --> 03:20:15.079 podcasting with a cow. I'm a star guy, anarchist. 4413 03:20:15.360 --> 03:20:19.719 I'm with I'm with Dan on Conflagration against k Rule Boy. 4414 03:20:19.840 --> 03:20:21.040 This isn't anyone else. 4415 03:20:20.959 --> 03:20:24.879 In that now I am. I'm over it. 4416 03:20:25.159 --> 03:20:30.319 I could take either one. I'm sorry what you well, 4417 03:20:30.360 --> 03:20:32.760 I'm looking at it and like I don't have the 4418 03:20:32.799 --> 03:20:35.799 same reverence for like Donkey Kong at all. This is 4419 03:20:35.920 --> 03:20:39.719 like I like Bonanza don't get me wrong, but Danza 4420 03:20:39.959 --> 03:20:44.120 no buttanda uh And like I again with the Kojima, 4421 03:20:44.239 --> 03:20:46.799 I'm actually like right in the middle between these two. 4422 03:20:48.479 --> 03:20:50.159 I'm going to let Jan pick it all right now 4423 03:20:50.239 --> 03:20:53.719 that Jeff's spoken up here. 4424 03:20:53.959 --> 03:20:55.639 Yeah, because I haven't played either of. 4425 03:20:55.639 --> 03:20:58.799 The I don't know, like I've seen that sequence you're 4426 03:20:58.799 --> 03:21:01.040 talking about. It was like one of the standout moments 4427 03:21:01.120 --> 03:21:03.920 from like one of the initial trailers that had me questioning, 4428 03:21:04.559 --> 03:21:06.200 what's happening here. 4429 03:21:07.120 --> 03:21:09.479 Skeleton warriors standing up by the statue with the fires 4430 03:21:09.520 --> 03:21:16.559 going on for the skeletons. Skeletons, you're smoking, Jan, whoa, whoa, whoa. 4431 03:21:17.239 --> 03:21:18.239 That's cheap. 4432 03:21:20.559 --> 03:21:37.559 Smokes cigar where it's overall mommy, that's why you playing 4433 03:21:37.600 --> 03:21:42.040 blackjack against some But like, I don't know that. 4434 03:21:43.639 --> 03:21:48.000 Yeah, with like Kojima, this is the conflagration sequence, which 4435 03:21:48.000 --> 03:21:49.440 is then the quick look we put out. It just 4436 03:21:49.520 --> 03:21:53.680 seems like peak him PARENTHESI is positive and not in 4437 03:21:53.799 --> 03:21:56.719 a I'm smelling my own farts way, which I find 4438 03:21:56.920 --> 03:21:58.079 some of his stuff he loves. 4439 03:21:58.639 --> 03:22:01.239 Yeah, yeah, it's it's not it's just cool. 4440 03:22:01.840 --> 03:22:05.000 He was like him like doing his damn thing, Like 4441 03:22:05.079 --> 03:22:07.799 he's in the zone of like directing a sequence and 4442 03:22:07.920 --> 03:22:10.799 like working on the cinematography of it. Yeah, and he's 4443 03:22:10.840 --> 03:22:14.680 not slapping like directed by, none of that's there. It's 4444 03:22:14.879 --> 03:22:17.559 just he's letting it speak and it's so good. So 4445 03:22:17.799 --> 03:22:21.719 I would give it to conflagration. Then I think we 4446 03:22:21.959 --> 03:22:22.520 just need to do it. 4447 03:22:22.600 --> 03:22:24.000 Then the tiebreaker. 4448 03:22:24.040 --> 03:22:28.280 Then what tiebreaker? I think Jan is the tiebreaker and 4449 03:22:30.079 --> 03:22:34.319 exactly I think Will stepped in, and then we may 4450 03:22:34.479 --> 03:22:37.000 renamed the category King k Rule. 4451 03:22:39.200 --> 03:22:40.239 I actually don't like. 4452 03:22:42.920 --> 03:22:44.600 The wound in there. 4453 03:22:45.040 --> 03:22:47.959 All right, we'll takes real. 4454 03:22:48.920 --> 03:23:03.680 I love Scorpion, Boston, the Scorpions, the Scapion. We misspelled 4455 03:23:03.680 --> 03:23:05.239 scorpion audio listeners. 4456 03:23:04.920 --> 03:23:08.280 Sorry, no, no, they'll never know that. They can't read, 4457 03:23:09.559 --> 03:23:13.639 so gang to say it's keep up that wins. 4458 03:23:14.600 --> 03:23:18.399 It's just such a still purified moment of it's awesome, 4459 03:23:18.760 --> 03:23:22.399 It looks cool, it's emotional, it's a great performance. 4460 03:23:22.680 --> 03:23:23.680 It's great, right, great. 4461 03:23:24.319 --> 03:23:26.319 We don't really learn that keep up is this catch 4462 03:23:26.399 --> 03:23:28.680 raise until the flashback scene that happens after that. 4463 03:23:28.879 --> 03:23:31.719 Yeah, even though like we kind of front but well, 4464 03:23:31.760 --> 03:23:32.799 you're right, that hits so hard. 4465 03:23:32.799 --> 03:23:34.600 But that's what's so great about is that because you 4466 03:23:34.639 --> 03:23:36.280 can't for it, because he does the pose. 4467 03:23:37.000 --> 03:23:39.760 No, actually, we don't even considered him doing any actual 4468 03:23:39.799 --> 03:23:40.479 superhero ship. 4469 03:23:42.159 --> 03:23:46.559 Somehow he made dabbing cool again. Dabbing has never not 4470 03:23:46.680 --> 03:23:49.920 been kids love dabb Now we just got to say 4471 03:23:50.000 --> 03:23:55.879 six seven, you know, all right, Kayla and Scorpions Spear 4472 03:23:56.079 --> 03:24:00.680 presents best Moment and or Secrets, Uh, Mommy, baby Steps 4473 03:24:00.760 --> 03:24:03.719 and Conflagration from Destraining too as the runners up with 4474 03:24:04.159 --> 03:24:07.719 keep Up from Dispatch Winning and folks, we have won 4475 03:24:07.799 --> 03:24:10.319 the end of a podcast that is KA three in 4476 03:24:10.520 --> 03:24:14.440 the booze. Uh, stay tuned, folks, we'll see you in 4477 03:24:14.559 --> 03:24:15.000 two days. 4478 03:24:15.239 --> 03:24:16.719 You don't really read them all again at the end. 4479 03:24:17.280 --> 03:24:18.559 I'm gonna just my. 4480 03:24:18.680 --> 03:24:27.840 God, we're gonna get to it. I'm sorry this whole week. 4481 03:24:29.280 --> 03:24:31.719 Geographically, that's what it is. 4482 03:24:31.760 --> 03:24:33.680 Mike and I used to like being further away from 4483 03:24:36.440 --> 03:24:38.120 We shouldn't have them close to each other. 4484 03:24:39.639 --> 03:24:39.840 I know. 4485 03:24:48.559 --> 03:24:52.479 Giving the all right, let's let's roll to the tippy 4486 03:24:52.559 --> 03:24:54.719 top of the category. Oh my god, I remember this 4487 03:24:56.399 --> 03:24:59.120 through that didn't we We're going from the very beginning 4488 03:25:00.040 --> 03:25:01.879 for the verdict day three. 4489 03:25:01.959 --> 03:25:05.600 Okay, Okay, back Lar, I won't make you do it again, Mikey, 4490 03:25:05.719 --> 03:25:06.680 would you mind reading? 4491 03:25:06.840 --> 03:25:10.920 Yes, the best Cat from Cats with the runners up 4492 03:25:11.399 --> 03:25:20.440 of Skimbal Shanks and you got Mambna aka the Sexy 4493 03:25:20.559 --> 03:25:21.520 Taylor swift Cat. 4494 03:25:22.239 --> 03:25:26.680 Thank you best friend, slop Sean. Would you mind reading that? Yeah? 4495 03:25:26.799 --> 03:25:31.120 Your runners up are Repo and Supermarket Simulator, with Peak 4496 03:25:31.319 --> 03:25:33.280 being the winner, Chuck. 4497 03:25:33.319 --> 03:25:35.879 Would you mind reading the next category? Yeah? 4498 03:25:36.000 --> 03:25:38.239 For the prestigious best new Website, It's going to go 4499 03:25:38.319 --> 03:25:44.760 to oh Giant bomb dot Com. Uh, mister Grubb. Would 4500 03:25:44.760 --> 03:25:45.719 you mind reading the next one? 4501 03:25:45.840 --> 03:25:46.040 Yeah? 4502 03:25:46.120 --> 03:25:49.719 For boomer Game of the Year, we have runners up 4503 03:25:49.959 --> 03:25:52.840 earthy On shout outs to earth On Final Fantasy Tactics, 4504 03:25:52.840 --> 03:25:57.319 the Evilies Chronicles, and your winner is Mortal Kombat Legacy Collection. 4505 03:25:57.840 --> 03:26:01.239 Lovely Dan Reiker, Which you mind reading the next chapter? 4506 03:26:02.479 --> 03:26:05.680 Why do you ask me to do that? All right, 4507 03:26:05.719 --> 03:26:08.399 I'll do it. I'll do it. I didn't mean for 4508 03:26:08.479 --> 03:26:13.159 that to happen. Ever, for Shoot, we don't got we 4509 03:26:13.200 --> 03:26:13.959 don't have heat. 4510 03:26:13.760 --> 03:26:16.840 Trump a disappointment of the here. Your runners up are 4511 03:26:16.879 --> 03:26:20.159 The Xbox Full Screen Experience and Mario Kartworld. And the 4512 03:26:20.280 --> 03:26:24.840 most disappointing game of twenty twenty five is Metroid Prime four. 4513 03:26:25.120 --> 03:26:31.120 Beyond if it softens anything. 4514 03:26:31.399 --> 03:26:34.280 Metroid Dread won the Best Game of twenty twenty one, 4515 03:26:36.840 --> 03:26:41.840 Anything's Possible. Day four Uh Giant bomb dot Com especially 4516 03:26:41.920 --> 03:26:46.040 presents best comeback to Konami with Ninja, Gaidan Andenoby as 4517 03:26:46.079 --> 03:26:49.399 the runners up. Uh, mister Backlar, would you mind reading 4518 03:26:49.520 --> 03:26:50.200 this one? Yeah? 4519 03:26:50.239 --> 03:26:54.760 Best roguelike? Uh runners up Haighties two in Absalom, with 4520 03:26:54.920 --> 03:26:59.440 the winner being blue Prints, the game I counterpicked in 4521 03:27:01.280 --> 03:27:03.079 It's a critic because I had never heard of. 4522 03:27:04.280 --> 03:27:06.360 You did it was that many fantasy credit points? I 4523 03:27:06.440 --> 03:27:11.079 guess Yeah, what a genius. And to completely wrap up 4524 03:27:11.120 --> 03:27:14.479 Day three once again, Kayla and Scorpion Spear presents best 4525 03:27:14.520 --> 03:27:18.120 moment of sequence Conflagration. Mommy from Baby Steps are the 4526 03:27:18.200 --> 03:27:21.280 runners up, with keep up in Dispatch winning Gang. 4527 03:27:21.360 --> 03:27:23.760 We're gonna see you in two days to crown our 4528 03:27:23.840 --> 03:27:26.280 top ten. Happy New Year, Happy. 4529 03:27:28.520 --> 03:27:30.719 I hope you give someone you like a smooch and 4530 03:27:30.840 --> 03:27:33.280 if you don't, got anyone, kiss a dog, maybe not 4531 03:27:33.399 --> 03:27:35.440 a cat. I think I'm done with cats after this 4532 03:27:35.600 --> 03:28:01.319 weekend or for me, Boss's cool. The cost of the 4533 03:28:01.559 --> 03:28:01.840 pat