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<v Speaker 1>Rob Dawson.

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<v Speaker 2>Rob will be jetting off with us on Sunday, not

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<v Speaker 2>with us. Supper plan similarly on Sunday as we'll all

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<v Speaker 2>be covering the d n C next week. Now, Rob,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I asked you this before, but you had

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<v Speaker 2>never been to a convention, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Until we went to the r n C. Not before

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<v Speaker 1>the RNC.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, okay, before the rn C, when I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what's going to happen, my anxiety just rises.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. So before we went to the r n C,

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<v Speaker 1>I was nervous.

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<v Speaker 2>Not because I thought anything was going to be I.

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<v Speaker 1>Just didn't know what to expect. Right now that we've

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<v Speaker 1>been I'm like, oh, I got this. Yeah, you do

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<v Speaker 1>this because you know, when you go to a.

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<v Speaker 3>Mega event like this, first of all, we're all going

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<v Speaker 3>to be you know, working long or you know, we're

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<v Speaker 3>all together for many hours every day. You develop a rhythm, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I like the rhythm we developed. By Tuesday, we're here

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<v Speaker 3>in Radio Row and then we had dinner, and then

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<v Speaker 3>we went to the arena and then we did something

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<v Speaker 3>fun and it was all kind of like you crave

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<v Speaker 3>for when you developed that rhythm.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so I'm looking forward. What are you looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to in the DNC.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm curious about the crowd reaction for Kamala Harris when

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<v Speaker 3>she takes the stage.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing, I think it's gonna be a mad house.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's gonna be just like it was for Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>I really, I mean, you've got to think this is

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<v Speaker 2>the most hardcore of the party, faithful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just like the RNC was.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it is going to be like it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be like a you know, a ten pole revival

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<v Speaker 2>in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, you've watched many a convention. I've not so many,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know you love this stuff. You follow this

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<v Speaker 3>stuff when you I will say.

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<v Speaker 2>The RNC was probably the best produced convention I remember. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So that doesn't mean there wasn't a better but it

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<v Speaker 2>was entertaining, and it moved fast, and there was real

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<v Speaker 2>people mixed in with politicians, and you know you were there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know those real people interviews, they they hit harder

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<v Speaker 2>than the politician interviews.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a question about the crescendo of speakers, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you're supposed to ramp up, right, yeah? Yeah, okay, So

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<v Speaker 3>why why Bill Clinton Wednesday?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that is he just such a right like does.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have put Bill Clinton on Tuesday. To be perfectly,

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<v Speaker 2>if I was going to do the order, this is

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<v Speaker 2>what I would have done. I would leave Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 2>on Monday, because you don't want these people thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden ever again, right, not one are you surprised

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<v Speaker 2>that he's there. I think it's a big slap in

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<v Speaker 2>the face. But politically, they've got to get him on

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<v Speaker 2>the stage and off the stage because we have to

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<v Speaker 2>scrape off the stink that is the Joe Biden administration

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<v Speaker 2>that was wildly unpopular when he was the candidate. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So they're going to separate him from Kamala Harris as

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<v Speaker 2>much as.

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<v Speaker 1>You can because of that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I would leave Hillary on Monday with him

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<v Speaker 2>where she's going to be, And then I would have

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<v Speaker 2>put Bill Clinton on Tuesday, and then I would have

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<v Speaker 2>put Barack Obama on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 3>Does that say something that Obama like, did it take

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<v Speaker 3>a walk because it took.

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<v Speaker 1>A while for a new indoors? Is that right? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know the thinking behind that.

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<v Speaker 2>I do find it interesting that the Democratic Party is

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<v Speaker 2>elevating Bill Clinton's voice, right because he's a gross sexual predator.

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<v Speaker 2>He is an absolute horn dog and has I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if he is now. He's old now, but when

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<v Speaker 2>he was young, I mean, he was everything that hashtag

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<v Speaker 2>me too was allegedly against. And now they're featuring him

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<v Speaker 2>on Wednesday Night?

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<v Speaker 3>Is there a strategy about thinking, oh, well he's a centrist. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I goh, he's good at bringing people together, So what's

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<v Speaker 3>type about kill?

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<v Speaker 2>Obama has much more of that feel. I just think

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand Bill Clinton on Wednesday. I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have flipped those two and I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>why Barack Obama is. Okay, wait a minute, Wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought of something because I have to put

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<v Speaker 2>my political machinery hat on.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton.

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<v Speaker 2>Is not nearly as popular now as Barack Obama is.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you are going to introduce a candidate who

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<v Speaker 2>is not exactly known for her likability, you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to put the most beloved.

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<v Speaker 2>Democrat in recent memory right before her.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I'm saying? Separation?

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<v Speaker 3>There is there anything about Clinton introducing Tim Walls? Or

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<v Speaker 3>there would be someone else introducing Tim Walls, like maybe

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<v Speaker 3>a regular person from Minnesota or someone.

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<v Speaker 1>From the nationale.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know they're not giving us that information. Usually

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<v Speaker 2>until the day of We'll see if they're better at that.

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<v Speaker 1>DNC. The RNC was terrible. The RNC was.

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<v Speaker 2>Giving us list at twelve thirty in the afternoon.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just like what Mandy real quick I saw

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<v Speaker 3>on the map. We're near CNN, right, And I informed

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<v Speaker 3>you that David Axelrod is one of my people that

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<v Speaker 3>I think I can imitate very well.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh nice.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Democrats really want to love their candidate, and

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<v Speaker 3>the love is just pouring out for Kamala Harris right now.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is why Donald Trump is fundamentally unpopular outside

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<v Speaker 3>of his base.

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<v Speaker 1>That is good, excellent.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know David's books on the show today.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, I bet we can get David Axelrod

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to us next week.

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<v Speaker 1>David, does he have a sense of humor about it?

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<v Speaker 1>Or would he? I would hope, so, I would hope.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you're saying not if you say, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>David Axelrod and I eat babies for breakfast, but you

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<v Speaker 2>said that that would be offensive. But that's a very

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<v Speaker 2>good impression, extremely good impression.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, wow, Wow, all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna ask

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<v Speaker 4>Rob the question I asked you earlier. So going into

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<v Speaker 4>the r n C, the message was unity, okay, asked

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<v Speaker 4>the assassination attempt. If you had to put one or

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<v Speaker 4>two words on what you think the messaging or theme

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<v Speaker 4>is going to be for the Democrats of DNZ, what

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<v Speaker 4>do you think it would be?

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<v Speaker 3>I almost does it have to be in any to

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<v Speaker 3>to put in both any sore feelings about getting ready

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<v Speaker 3>to Biden.

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<v Speaker 2>There's rumors that Biden is super salty, like still really mad,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's rumors that in his speech the d n

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<v Speaker 2>SEE he's going to snub Obama and Kamala Harris, which

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<v Speaker 2>I just so.

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<v Speaker 1>He he's not going to get up and fake everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Lets I am more, I am more.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Nikki Hayley, let's just say she's she was not

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<v Speaker 2>super convincing at the RNC of her love for the candidate.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not feel the love coming from her speech.

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<v Speaker 2>But that being said, I I don't see, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that there's a lot of people in the

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<v Speaker 2>background talking to Joe Biden about what kind of legacy

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<v Speaker 2>he wants to have and does he want to go

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<v Speaker 2>to the DNC and burn it down even though his

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<v Speaker 2>legacy shot we all.

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<v Speaker 3>Know that there's did you find the convention for the

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<v Speaker 3>Republicans uplifting or frightening in terms of, oh my goodness

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<v Speaker 3>if we don't win them.

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<v Speaker 2>I tell people this, I've told so many people this

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<v Speaker 2>since we got back. It was a far more joyful experience.

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<v Speaker 1>Than I than I thought it was going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was going to be like that, like

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<v Speaker 2>angry politics, We've got to save the country. You got to.

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<v Speaker 3>The question is can can the Democrats do angry politics

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<v Speaker 3>or do they have to be joys too?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that because Kamala Harris right now is essentially,

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<v Speaker 2>in my mind, running for student body president.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all we know about Kamala.

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<v Speaker 2>Harris is she's got she's got posters in the hallway,

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<v Speaker 2>and she is reading off of scripts all over the country.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's no upside into going negative.

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<v Speaker 4>No studid body presidents could probably talk to reporters. So

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying, you know, but.

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<v Speaker 2>As long as she's going to run that kind of campaign,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they go. And if I was doing this

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't want my candidate to be asked any

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<v Speaker 2>hard questions, which they don't, I would lean into the

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<v Speaker 2>whole vibe thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you seen this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to play this audio when we get back

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<v Speaker 2>from this break here. Someone went to a Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 2>rally and asked what the rally attendees thought her biggest

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<v Speaker 2>accomplishments as vice president were. The answers are everything you

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<v Speaker 2>think they'll be. But one guy was just there for

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<v Speaker 2>the vibe, and I think that's what they lean into

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<v Speaker 2>right well that I think they allow the attack dogs

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<v Speaker 2>Tim Walls they're going to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Above it all because the vibe was a non existent.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, there was no vibe. It would have been a

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<v Speaker 2>funeral next week. If Joe Biden was still still the candidate.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be a much different situation here, much different.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking forward to its coming to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah,