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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the

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Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donnie Peters. I am

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joined by Tim Duckworth. It's been a minute a month

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March second, our last show. Partly laziness, partly me being

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on my deathbed, partly work, partly just a whole bunch

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of excuses.

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Speaker 2: To be honest, I think it's majority work. I think

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we can say that it's been pretty yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, business.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we should still hop on during work because

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this is the fun part of work, you know. So,

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I mean, the work is largely fun, I would say,

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but you know, this I think is certainly the most

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fun aspect of it all. But you know, we've been

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letting the fans down. I've seen some Twitter message places

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I'm hitting me uh on purpose? Yeah, I mean, what

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are you gonna do? We apologize, but we're gonna be

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We're gonna be coming in hot for the rest of

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I'll say what twenty twenty five, well guaranteed three months,

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because we're gonna go strong from now until like the

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end of the WSP. Of course, obviously WSP is going

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to be the biggest and the best, of course, I'm

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looking forward to that. But we had a whole lot

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of stuff to catch up on, you know, because last

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last time that we talked on the podcast, I should say,

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we talked about how the PGT Mixed Game series was

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doing great. It was a couple of events into that series.

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That series then wrapped up. We had Super High Rollable

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Mixed Games wrapped up, We had the PGT PLO series

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wrapped up, and then just recently the twenty twenty two

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or twenty twenty two, Wow, I'm taking it real far back,

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twenty twenty five US Poker Open was completely so quick

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rundown of what we're going to hit on. Shannon Shore

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winner of the US Poker Open, Jesse Lonis, winner of

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the PGTPLO series, chatt Ea Sledge winner Super High Roller

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Bowl Mixed Games, and Chino Reem won the PGT Mixed

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Games and he did so for a second time. We

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also have our giveaway contest thing and because it's been

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a while, Tim has organized two code words for all

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the listeners out there, So stay tuned throughout this episode

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All right, first up, we're gonna go in order of recency,

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so we'll hit on Shannon Shore winning the twenty twenty

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five US Poke Robin. And it was one hell of

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a dramatic finish because this guy needed to win the

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final event, the twenty five K Championship event, and he

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did it to overtake Matthew Woman. Now at the end,

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it was sure versus Nacho Barbero, and once it got

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down to those two, Matthew Woman was out. Correct, correct, Well, listen,

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I already ran through all the tibriggers and.

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Speaker 3: He was out, Yes, but he could still get a

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little bit of a little bit of a rebate.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean, Oh, the tiebreakers determined the champion,

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but you got the money.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we split the money, so he could have split

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the money with Nacho if Nacho had emerged.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I see what you did there. Well it

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doesn't matter because Nacho blew it in the end. Did

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you see the final hand? By the way, I.

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Speaker 3: Saw the clip on social I was in the room

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when it happened, and we were locking in for a

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long heads up battle, me and now photographer Antonio, and

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you know, all of a sudden it was over.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what Nacha was doing, to

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be honest, just yeah, you know, I think I think

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somebody at some point asked Nacho. I can't remember if

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it was on stream or if I was in the

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room and I heard it, or maybe it was on

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day one during the commentary that I was doing. I

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can't remember exactly, but somebody asked him like if he's

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a like a field player or like a theory player,

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gto player, And I can't remember what he said, but

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I immediately thought, he's obviously a field player, yes, like

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Speaker 2: Come on, I same as football people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I don't think he had any time extensions

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on that final h okay, I mean he called it

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off with Ace High and a two pair for Shannon Shore.

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It did seem like one of those like I'm going

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to try and make a sick call, read the guy's

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soul type of stuff, but without any time extensions. I mean,

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somebody can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't

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think he had any. And he didn't think that long.

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He thought maybe twenty seconds or so and then called

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it off. I mean didn't really feel like there was

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a lot of bluffs there. It was a pretty dry

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board overall. So yeah, anyway, it doesn't matter. Let's get

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back to the real story here, which is Shannon Show winning.

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Shannon Shore won it. He played tremendous. I thought was

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extremely locked in from late on day one of the

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tournament and then all throughout the final table. Obviously, you know,

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playing with Nacho Barbero heads up, he was the beneficiary

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of Nacho calling with Ace High on the final hand.

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And yes, but you know, I thought Shore was very

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much in control throughout the entire I'll say last forty

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percent of the tournament. You know, even if he wasn't

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the chip leader, let's say, you know, he was doing

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extremely well. I think it was sure that also busted

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Jeremy Becker on day one, which gave him a nice

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boost when he had aces and a great spot for

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a squeeze. Becker had flattered in position against somebody else's

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rais with ace queen suited. Becker then back jammed. Obviously

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the aces make the call, and you know that was that.

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But Shore finishes the series with two cashes. He won

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both times that he cashed, he won a veent number

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five a ten K event. Seventy six entries in that one,

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two hundred and twenty K is what Shore won. And

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then he won the twenty five K championship event for

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five hundred and twenty nine thousand dollars. And in that

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championship event there were seventy three entries just quickly. Why

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did that one ten kit have such a small field?

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Speaker 3: Well, there was a little bit of an overlay of

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the win that may have led to that. I think also,

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you know, people get a little burned out, take a

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Saturday off watch some I know baseball, some playing base

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It was also a big UFC caught on, so I

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knew we lost. At least one player had told us

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he's not coming on this Saturday. So I think there's

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just a lot of little things. I think it's just

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more five days in a row, take a day off,

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get also Sunday off, and I think it you know,

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apart from those numbers, he saw the Monday rebound with

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that record breaking field size, so I think the day

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off's still are positive for what we're doing right now.

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Speaker 1: So Shannon Shore wins that final event to win the

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twenty twenty five US Poke Ropean title. He also moves

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up to ninth on the season long PGT Lead Award.

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This season on the PGT, he has five cashes, two wins,

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and he's won nine hundred and thirty seven thousand, five

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hundred dollars seven hundred and forty points is what he has.

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He's really having an outstanding year. I know our season

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is a little bit weird, I guess because we start

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a little bit later with the January stuff still wrapping

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up from the previous season. But it sure's best year ever.

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If you want to look at Hendimov, his best year

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was way back in two thousand and six. Is actually

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that was his first year with a recorded cash on Hendon.

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He won one point six two to two million dollars

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this year already he's won one point nine two seven million,

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so very much on his way to having an incredible

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career year. He has four PGT wins this year now

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to this season, as I mentioned, and the other two

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came during the Last Chance Series. He won two events

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during that Last Chance Series. In twenty twenty five, Suore

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has five total wins. In addition to those four PGT wins,

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he won the WSP Circuit main event at Horseshoe Las

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Vegas in March for two hundred and seven thousand dollars.

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And then another note is that he has seven six

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figure scores in twenty twenty five. So Shannon Shore is

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absolutely positively on freaking fire. And I just want to

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say that if you haven't read it yet, there's a

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great feature piece on Shannon that's done by Lance Bradley

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that came out not too long ago. It's on Lance's substack.

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It's called The Overlay. Theoverlay dot substack dot com, I

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believe is the URL. It's not just about poker. I mean,

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obviously Shannon's a poker player, so that's the backdrop of everything,

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but it really is about Shannon's personal growth. You know,

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giving up alcohol, which he has done for the large majority.

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I don't think he's one hundred percent cut it out.

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Like for example, last night he was at Stony's after

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they won. That was all over my Instagram feed.

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Speaker 2: Shadow was invited to that.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, I'm sure anyone can shown.

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Speaker 2: Up turned it down. I was not.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that was I mean I used to

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go to stonies all the time, like back in the day.

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I didn't know that was still a thing.

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Speaker 3: But I guess it is different than when I remember,

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which is a different location.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know that if.

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Speaker 1: You went to the one that was in kind of

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that strip mall, like across from the apartment complex the Manhattan,

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it's no longer there. Actually it's actually in town Square.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: But the the the overlay feature that Lance Bradley did

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with Shannon Yeat, it's not just about Poe Gray really

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is about his personal growth over the last I'll say

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a year or so, giving up alcohol, being more present

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with his family. He's you know, really kind of gotten

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back into like health and mental well being and all

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of that. Talks about how everything that he's been doing

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has really helped him play the best poker of his life.

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It's a pretty inspiring read, and you know, it can

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only it only like Bode's weight to like how well

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he's performed this year. You know, I read that when

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that came out from Lance, and I was like, oh, like,

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you know, Shannon's in a great headspace right now, and

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then all of a sudden boom, It's like it's all

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kind of makes sense. So of course, you know, I

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know people can sit out there and say, oh, well,

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it's just variance. You know, Shan's been doing this forever.

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Eventually it's going to click, yes, oh yeah, sure, but

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you know it is kind of just weirdly coincident all

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that as he's been working on himself from a health aspect,

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from a mental aspect, all that sort of stuff, and

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now this is all coming together on the poker felt.

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You know that says something to me. So if you

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guys want to check that out, you can over att

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theoverlay dot substack dot com. Again, that was by Lance

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Bradley who wrote that piece. All right, so Shannon Chars

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the winner. I'm going to get into a bunch of

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questions with you, mister Commish about the USPO. First, up.

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You know, his title came right down to the wire

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final tournament, final heads upmatch. You know how special was

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that to see it end in such a dramatic fashion.

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Before you answer, I will say that I always wanted

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to come down to the final tournament and I know

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you know that. So from your perspective, is that also

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the feeling?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I agree, it's always you know, you don't want

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it over before the finale starts, so having it come

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down to that last event is always great. You know,

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normally it does involve someone winning to knock the knock,

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you know, the current leader off, so a lot of

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pressure on those guys. You know, personally would have probably

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preferred a few more sweats once they hit the money

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instead of just Shannon and Nacho. But you know, well

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there were a couple I think.

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Speaker 1: They've they bombed out before the final table.

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Speaker 2: They bummed, so it would fir.

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Speaker 1: Sorry there was there was Eric Blair was the other one,

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and the right before the money was Brandon Wilson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I would love one day for us to get

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a sweat where everyone at the final table could possibly

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win with certain scenarios, just make a make you know,

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double down on the ICM implications with some you know,

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massive Golden Eagle implications. But yeah, it is always good

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to at least have a sweat to the very end

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and get that dramatic finish between the two.

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Speaker 1: And let's not overlook how good Matthew Wantman's series was.

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He had one win, three cashes. I think he had

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a first and a second, was.

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Speaker 2: It, yes, first on the runner up finish, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he cashed for five hundred and twenty eight

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thousand dollars total, So very good showing for Matthew Wantman.

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He was hoping to claim his second series title. He

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previously won a PGTPLO series, so he would have been

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a two time series winner on the PGT had he

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done that. But of course, as we've been talking about,

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Shannon Shore was able to overtake him. Shore has been

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one of the most consistent performers for what seems like forever,

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you know, like nearly two decades. I remember I mentioned

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that two thousand and six was his first year that

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I saw in Hendon that he has a recorded cash.

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This is his first major PGT series win. You know,

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what does it mean to you? Now? The USBO group

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and has some really good names attached to it. Stephen

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Chidwick is a winner, David Peters won it twice, Sean Winter,

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Martin Zemani or Rob Zobian, Like, what does that say

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to you as the commission.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think with the PGT, we've always been known

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as being this high role of circuit with the biggest

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and best names in poker, right the Stephen Chidwicks, the Nogrando's,

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Nick Shulman, all these guys that play uber high steaks,

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and I think from the tourist perspective, we want to

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be more well rounded and we've done quite a great

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job of doing that. See players that you know, aren't

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these uber high stakes guys win series titles, you know,

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may start attracting more people to come play our events.

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It's not just dominated, you know, by the by the Foxes,

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It's not dominated by Nogrando. We can see these players that,

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you know, if we talk about average bayings aren't as

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high as as those guys you mentioned, or previous USPR

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champions Chidwick and Peters and Sean Winter. So from the

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tours perspective, it's good to see some of these new

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faces in a way win series championships, win just PGG

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titles in general.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, along those lines, I would probably throw Michael Rosido

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in there. He won an event during the twenty twenty

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five US Poker Open. I know Frances Anderson didn't win,

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but he took third place in the first event. He

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was out there competing, so it's good to see him.

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We saw Nick Seward make some runs, so he's he's

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out there battling. Neil Warren is like the new new

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guy on the block.

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Speaker 2: Saw him bucks today.

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Speaker 1: Actually, oh yeah, he's definitely really like he really wants

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a title, like he wants to get not not like

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a series title first, I mean, he wants to get

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a trophy first. And then so he's out there gunning.

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You know, Andrew Mourno's out there gunning. So it is

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cool to see Matthew Watman is like he's now arrived, yes,

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but he was. He was one of those guys before.

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You know Shannon Shore as well, not that Shannon Show

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hasn't been around for a long time, but now Shannon

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Shore being the US pore Open champion and performing on

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this type of stage against this type of competition, you know,

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he's very much in that group. So I echo what

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you're saying, it's really kind of cool to see all

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these these players doing so well. So do you think

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I mentioned he has seven hundred and forty points on

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the season, ninth on the PGT leader board. Let's do

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a little bit of projecting here. You know, how do

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you think the rest of his twenty twenty five PGT

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campaign is going to play out? Do you think he's

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a lock to make it into the top forty and

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then qualify for the million dollar Championship?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, let's I want to look at his

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kind of past history at the PGT. He's best he

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was twenty twenty two season where he had nine hundred

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and eleven points. So he's already trending to have his

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best year probably last ye seven ninety one. Obviously he

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won those last two. He won those two PGT Lost

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Chance events to get him in to the PGT Championship.

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So for this year he's got seven hundred and forty points.

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We know he's playing the WSP, we have pokem Masters,

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we have all these events here in Las Vegas where

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he doesn't really need to travel. I'm sure he can

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pick up another one hundred two hundred points with not

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too much trouble, and yeah, I would say that. You know,

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I think we discussed it a little bit on that

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day one bonus coverage commentary that you know, we always

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talk about a thousand points being a threshold players should target.

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I think this year is going to come down just

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a little bit. Maybe it's nine hundred, maybe it's even

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eight hundred, just with some of the rule changes we've made.

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So I think he's basically I don't want to say

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he's in, don't want to say he's locked in, don't

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want him to go on a holiday for eight months,

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but I think he's well.

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Speaker 1: He once to show up to the WSP and I

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think he went like zero for fifty six or something.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's not hope that happens. So yeah, I think

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he's probably pretty safe. It's more of a it's more

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going to be a where he finishes in that top forty,

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and hopefully it is he stays in the top ten.

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Speaker 1: Looking at the PGT leader, where there's something I think

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you should add, you should add a points per cash

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is like, Okay, I guess he's got seven hundred and

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forty points. He's in ninth, but he only has five cases. Yeah,

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you know, everyone kind of around him or above him

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has more cashes, you know, so they're they're doing it

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with a little bit more volume, where Sure has proven

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so far that it's like when he gets into the money,

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it's probably going to be a top refinish, maybe even

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a win, right, you know, I think that's just kind

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of cool to see. Whereas you have someone like, you know,

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let's look at Nick Shulman for example, not that Nick

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Shulman hasn't had plenty of deep runs, but he's still

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void of a win, yep. And he has you know,

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he's he's he has the most cashes. Yeah, he's tied

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for the most final tables, but he has fourteen cashes,

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So he's doing it a little bit more on volume,

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even though it is like, you know, they are deep

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runs and final tables and whatnot. I would say somebody

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who's for sure doing it on volume is John Reardan

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right now, twelve cashes, five hundred and thirty five points,

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only has one top three finish from those twelve cases,

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so he does have four final tables. Yes, does reard In,

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but it's more just like a volume play with John Reardan.

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So I agree with you on shore it's also something,

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you know, something where I think he's playing a little

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bit bigger now, you know, twenty five k's are something

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that I expect him in, whereas before it was like

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we could see Shannon, we could not see Shannon in

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the twenty five K. Kind of depends. Maybe it depends

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how his series was going. I remember there was a

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couple series, you know where he would show up for.

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I can't remember if we had five ks to start,

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but he would always be there for like the opening events,

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either the five ks or the ten k's and then

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kind of see how it goes and then go from there,

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right and then maybe he would play a fifteen K

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and if he didn't do anything, he was kind of

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done for the series, which you see a lot from

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the guys on the tour, you know, they kind of

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phase out as they go. But now I expect Shore

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to be there, Like he'll be there for the five K,

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he'll be there for the twenty five K. You know

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at the WSP. With the year that he's having, could

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maybe see him dip his toes in the fifty K

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or whatever. I think I think he'll get in eventually.

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He got in last year, but it was via the

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Last chance, so this year I think he gets in

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just the direct entry. How'd you feel about the USPO overall.

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Speaker 3: I mean it was I think it was good. We've

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touched on it. I knew the numbers were going to

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be down. They were down across the board on average

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compared to what last year, down compared to Poker Cup

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always going off the last series.

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Speaker 2: We had about thirty five.

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Speaker 1: Its last year.

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Speaker 3: It was up from last year. But I'm looking at

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just the last series.

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Speaker 1: And I would say, like you would want to go like, Okay,

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let's look at Poker Girl Cup year over year. Let's

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look at USPO year over year. Let's look at you know,

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Poker Masters when that happened years at.

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Speaker 3: Both Yeah, sure, yeah, you know we had those two events,

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the Event six fifteen k that broke a record. We

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had the Event eight finale also broke a record. So

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that's that's great to see. Uh So, Yeah, surprised, more

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surprise than I thought I was going to be with

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the numbers, and that just shows that, you know, PGT

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is still healthy.

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Speaker 2: We obviously are.

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Speaker 3: You know, we had we were up against seminole. We're also

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up against a little bit of interesting political, foreign affairs

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time with the market traveling implications, so you know, with

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those two factors, yeah, very very good result. I think overall,

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I was.

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Speaker 1: Shocked to see seventy three entries in the twenty five K.

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I was like, what in the f and world? Because

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last year wasn't it fifties fifty.

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Speaker 3: Two or Yeah, it was very low last year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, seventy three entries in a twenty five K

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in the studio is amazing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a now yeah before that, we had

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a sixty nine at the twenty twenty one USPO, sixty

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nine at the twenty twenty two pokem Masters, and then

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sixty eight at last year's Poke Masters. So it's just

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kind of blew through, blew through every everyone and everything.

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And we had some people gip it that we hear

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the whole series, So could have been seventy four, seventy five,

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maybe maybe we could have flooded with eighty.

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Speaker 1: You never know, you got any lessons or takeaways from

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this year's USPO that you would apply to next year,

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and maybe let me let me lead you a little

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bit here and say that do you envision this stain

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as just straight no limit hold them or maybe even

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it's always no limit hold them. I mean, I know

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it used to have like maybe one or two other things,

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but would you ever do a PKO or a mystery

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bounty or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's been brought up several times, adding

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a bounty, adding freeze outs, and we even had people

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on our team, hey, why don't these are.

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Speaker 1: So out really?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, We've had people on our team say, you know

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the poke a Cup, USPO pokemons are all the same. Well, yeah,

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they're all the same for a reason. You know, we

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want the note we you know, and we think this

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is the formula that works. The numbers over the last

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two years have shown that what we're doing works eight events,

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you know, a lot more smaller stuff we're build into

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a bigger one.

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Speaker 2: It's working.

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Speaker 3: Now. We want some bounties. Sure, that's why we're going

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to try and do a bountie series this year. We're

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doing other things and doing a lot more different series.

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You know, I was looking at the data the other

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day and I went back the year before the PGT started.

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We only had three tournament series. So now we're going

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to these three same majors, plus we're adding two PLO

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series a mix game series, a kickoff a bountie series.

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Alas like, we're adding more and more stuff so we

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can start getting a little funky within its own series.

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I don't really like messing with these majors. I like

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the purity that they are. The numbers show that what

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we are doing working, so we don't even really mess

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with you know what works?

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's move over to the PGTPLO series, which

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Jesse Lonus won. It also at the death and this

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one was I don't know if I would say it

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was even more interesting, but it was interesting in its

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own unique way because during the PGTPLO series, unlike what

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we just saw at the USPO, the final day of

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the PGTPLO series also had not only did it have

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that twenty five K championship event, but it also had

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the single day five K bounty tournament playing out, which counts.

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So you had Jesse Lows at the final table of

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the twenty five K and you mentioned, how, you know,

473
00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:30,599
talking about the USPO, how you want like a time

474
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,759
when all the people at the final table like are

475
00:24:32,799 --> 00:24:36,039
in contention. There's all this weird icm stuff. Jesse Lowis

476
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,279
was for sure aware of where he needed to finish

477
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,000
and was playing totally opposite to Jesse Loanz at this

478
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,880
twenty five K PLO final table. He knew he had

479
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,079
the ladder up and he was very very tight and

480
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,319
very conservative for what we normally see from Jesse Lownes.

481
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,400
And he talked about it a bit on stream. I mean,

482
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,599
he knew what was going down, and then while that

483
00:24:57,759 --> 00:25:00,480
was happening, he also knew that he he had to

484
00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:04,039
sweat Alex Foxen in the five K. Loan has ended

485
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,000
up taking a believe it was third in that that

486
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,240
uh that twenty five K, which which allowed him to

487
00:25:10,279 --> 00:25:13,400
overtake fox In at least temporarily, but it left the

488
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,359
door open for fox In if he were to win

489
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,880
the five K single day Bounty tournament. And it was

490
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,880
a max sweat because Foxing got heads up, yep. I mean,

491
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,680
what in the freaking world was that?

492
00:25:27,279 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 2: It was perfect? It was a very tail ending really

493
00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:32,440
for the PLO series.

494
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,759
Speaker 3: And you know, Jesse bus said he came out to

495
00:25:35,799 --> 00:25:38,920
the bounty I think they were down to the final table,

496
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,720
but maybe they were like playing like four and four

497
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,240
and he was just standing there and just kind of

498
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,839
sweating Alex for a little bit put a bounty on

499
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,240
his head kind of us pleaded with everyone to bust

500
00:25:49,279 --> 00:25:52,599
him real quickly. So the fact that he was the

501
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,559
shortest stack in the money and got all the way

502
00:25:54,599 --> 00:25:56,279
to heads up play just to put the sweat on

503
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,440
was it was kind of an amazing result.

504
00:25:59,319 --> 00:26:02,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, not only were they battling for the series title,

505
00:26:02,559 --> 00:26:06,920
but the series title was extra spicy in this one

506
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,799
because this was one of those ones when there was

507
00:26:09,839 --> 00:26:14,400
that big fifty thousand dollars side bet have to win

508
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,960
the leader board. This time it was the biggest one

509
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,240
that they've ever had. Eleven people were in it. Lonus

510
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,119
was in it, and fox and was in it. So

511
00:26:23,319 --> 00:26:26,519
whoever won that was gonna pocket in an additional five

512
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,680
hundred k on the side from this side bet. So,

513
00:26:30,839 --> 00:26:33,319
I mean, that's just insane.

514
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 3: Must have made a deal.

515
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: No, I'm pretty sure they didn't make a deal. And

516
00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:40,680
I think that in one of the other tournaments, I

517
00:26:40,759 --> 00:26:42,799
can't remember, but there was I want to say it

518
00:26:42,839 --> 00:26:44,759
involved Bryce Yockey. I think he might have been in

519
00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:47,519
the bed as well, but he was. It got down

520
00:26:47,559 --> 00:26:50,640
to heads up and like the other guy asked like,

521
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,640
you can't make a deal, right, And I think Bryce said,

522
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,079
if I remember correctly or if I understood him correctly,

523
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,920
saying like no, like we can't, like part of the

524
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,039
rules is like we can't like finagle the the points

525
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,759
or of money or anything like, we have to just

526
00:27:03,799 --> 00:27:06,519
play it straight. I mean, so that's that's just insane.

527
00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:08,839
So so Loanus ended up finishing as the winner of

528
00:27:08,839 --> 00:27:13,720
the series. He had five cashes. It's actually funny, both

529
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,240
Foxin and Lonus had five cashes. Both locks, Lonus and

530
00:27:18,319 --> 00:27:21,920
Foxen had four final tables, both of them had four

531
00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:24,640
top three finishes, and both of them won a tournament

532
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,200
all at the PGTPLO series. But Jesse was a little

533
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,519
bit better six hundred and sixty two points to Foxton's

534
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,759
six thirty three. Lonus to cash for just shy of

535
00:27:36,839 --> 00:27:40,519
eight hundred K during the series, and then of course

536
00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:43,680
he won, he won what seems incredibly small, but you know,

537
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:48,319
nonetheless the ten k PGT and then and then he

538
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,359
looks five K side bet as well. So, I mean,

539
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:56,759
just absolutely wild stuff at the PGTPLO series. One of

540
00:27:56,759 --> 00:27:59,920
the things that was a bit different about the PGTPLO

541
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,160
series is it had eleven events. You know, the majors,

542
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,200
the you know the Cup Uspo Masters, those are eight events,

543
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,039
but this one was I mean, this one was long.

544
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:10,799
I know you weren't here for all of it. You

545
00:28:10,839 --> 00:28:12,759
were dipped dipped out to Australia for a little bit,

546
00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:15,200
but I just remember being there, like in the middle

547
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,640
of it, being like, this series is still going like

548
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,319
these there was one guy. I gotta find this guy's name.

549
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,640
I'm pretty sure it's Tomash Krazinski. And I kept saying,

550
00:28:24,839 --> 00:28:28,720
I know, like our photographer Antonio has no idea who

551
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,680
Tomash Krasinski is either. I'd never seen him until this series.

552
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,039
But I said to Antonio, I said, listen, see that

553
00:28:36,079 --> 00:28:39,119
guy right there. I have the most respect for that guy.

554
00:28:39,799 --> 00:28:43,119
This guy showed up every freaking day and got his

555
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,880
teeth kicked in every day, just in the tournament. Rebot

556
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,039
in the tournament in like just NonStop, finished with two cashes.

557
00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:54,799
He was there from the first event to the last event,

558
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,519
multiple entries. I he probably fired thirty bolts in this

559
00:28:58,599 --> 00:29:02,240
damn thing. And I was like, this dude has the

560
00:29:02,279 --> 00:29:07,079
resiliency that that should should be, you know, applauded around

561
00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:10,480
the world. You should you should do like classes in

562
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,160
colleges about this guy's ability to get knocked down and

563
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,640
get back up. I was like, how do I don't

564
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,480
know how this guy's doing I would be so far

565
00:29:19,559 --> 00:29:22,039
out the door, laying in the strip, hopefully somebody ran

566
00:29:22,119 --> 00:29:24,079
me over with a car. But this guy, no, just

567
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,720
kept on going, kept on going. I have no idea

568
00:29:26,759 --> 00:29:27,400
how he did it.

569
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:32,599
Speaker 3: I'm actually looking at you know, everyone that played how

570
00:29:32,599 --> 00:29:34,240
many do you think played every event? First?

571
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,079
Speaker 1: First, how many do I think played every event?

572
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:43,079
Speaker 3: Yep, twelve people, that's good, guess thirteen okay, yeah, and

573
00:29:43,119 --> 00:29:44,960
I'm looking at the worst.

574
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: I mean it had to be. It had to be

575
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:51,039
basically the people in the bet plus maybe a couple more, right.

576
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just trying to think who had the worst series.

577
00:29:54,039 --> 00:29:57,319
Speaker 1: Thomas Krazinski had the worst series, for sure. The guy

578
00:29:57,359 --> 00:30:00,279
had two cashes. He was there every FN day, I'm

579
00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:02,680
telling you, every day. It did not matter.

580
00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:05,079
Speaker 3: There's one person that had a worse series.

581
00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:08,359
Speaker 1: Kerry Katz, Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. I mean

582
00:30:08,599 --> 00:30:10,680
Carrie was also there every day, yeah.

583
00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 3: Cash as well, but for a lot less money.

584
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, I mean, yeah, he there was a lot

585
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,759
of people that were there, a lot that that didn't

586
00:30:19,759 --> 00:30:22,880
really have good series. You know, Ronald Kaiser didn't really

587
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,720
have a good series for Ronald Kaiser standards. He only

588
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,920
had three cashes. Jeremy Osma's really didn't do anything. I know,

589
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,599
I know Nick Shulman like had five cashes, but like,

590
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,799
you know, kind of really didn't do much, you know

591
00:30:35,839 --> 00:30:37,759
for Nick Shulman standards. Thought it would be a bit

592
00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:41,960
better there. Who else was there? Patrick Leonard, you know,

593
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,680
I thought would have a little bit of a better series.

594
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,880
He didn't really have that good of a series. So yeah,

595
00:30:47,119 --> 00:30:48,640
there was a lot of people that were just kind

596
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,920
of you know, bricking left and right. But that's that's

597
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:56,200
just how it is. But anyway, yeah, Jesse loanis crushed it,

598
00:30:57,119 --> 00:30:59,039
you know. And and what was I mean you were

599
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,240
you had come back now from Australia for the last

600
00:31:01,279 --> 00:31:02,880
couple of events, so what was that like, I mean

601
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,359
you talked about a little bit, but being in that

602
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,160
room for the final, I wish we could have streamed it.

603
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,839
I wish we could have just put the table up

604
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,720
there because because the five K single day, which I

605
00:31:13,759 --> 00:31:16,000
think we all thought would have ended before the twenty

606
00:31:16,079 --> 00:31:18,200
five K final table, but the twenty five K finl

607
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,680
table ended in like two and a half hours. It

608
00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:25,440
was very very quick, very quick. Yeah. So yeah, I

609
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,799
mean you mentioned already like Jesse went out there, he

610
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,640
was sweating, like I mean, I'm sure that was just wild.

611
00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't stick around that long. He's like kind

612
00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:35,680
of kind of left, but I know that, you know,

613
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,680
he couldn't handle the pain, couldn't handle it. The eventual

614
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:42,359
winner of the tournament, Zachary Schwartz's plays basketball with Jesse,

615
00:31:43,079 --> 00:31:45,839
So I know for a fact and Zach once I

616
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,000
hit the money, Zach had like sixty percent of the

617
00:31:49,079 --> 00:31:52,000
chips in play, so he was just like finish him

618
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,279
off place like like just texting him.

619
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,519
Speaker 2: And you know, I al I saw if Alex play

620
00:31:57,559 --> 00:31:58,319
a few hands.

621
00:31:58,119 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 3: And he looked you know, it's not like he's Alex

622
00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:04,480
is ever like smiling when he plays. He's pretty you know,

623
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,079
got that very stoic and I guess a little bit

624
00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:09,920
you know, mean mugging look on his face when he plays.

625
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,279
But you could just see a little bit more anguish

626
00:32:12,279 --> 00:32:14,279
in some spots when he folded, because he knew that

627
00:32:14,319 --> 00:32:18,000
there was so much more on the line. For first,

628
00:32:18,119 --> 00:32:22,039
he wasn't just really playing for you know, winning sixty

629
00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:24,799
K and some bounties. He's really playing for sixty k

630
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,880
se bounties, ten K, a Gold Cup and half a

631
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,319
million dollars. So I think for Alex it was a

632
00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:33,880
lot harder because Jesse's already out. He knew what he

633
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,599
needed to do, he knew he had to win, and

634
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,759
like he's so close. It's not like he was like

635
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,000
playing in a field of one thousand and you know,

636
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,480
he finished one hundred.

637
00:32:42,599 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 2: He's literally got heads up.

638
00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:46,799
Speaker 3: One just had to just be one more guy and

639
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:50,160
he would have won all of this, all of this money.

640
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,799
And yeah, so for him, I feel a lot of anguish.

641
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also you know, I guess I guess going

642
00:32:57,559 --> 00:33:00,839
back and bringing in the USPO for a second, Foxen

643
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:06,039
was the leader right through, but didn't he lead the

644
00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:08,200
way through four events?

645
00:33:09,799 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 2: Or was it?

646
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:10,319
Speaker 3: No?

647
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,799
Speaker 1: No, that was sorry, that was at the PLO series.

648
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,920
I'm getting this crossed up. But Foxton was in contention,

649
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,759
I'll say in the USPO. Yeah, he was like after

650
00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:23,119
he like towards the end because he won event number

651
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,559
seven and then he was you know, it was like, Okay,

652
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,759
Foxen has a chance to possibly go on to catch

653
00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:32,680
Matthew Wantman, And what I'm getting at is. You know,

654
00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:36,200
Foxten is one of those guys obviously performs extremely well

655
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,720
on the PGT over and over again. Like he's always

656
00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:40,680
you know, kind of towards the top of the leaderboard,

657
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,119
minus last year when he kind of had a down year,

658
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,240
but other than that, you know, he's always crushing but

659
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,960
yet to win a series title. Yeah, you know, he's

660
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,039
one of those guys him Nick Shulman, like it's gonna

661
00:33:52,039 --> 00:33:56,759
happen eventually. It just hasn't happened yet. But but I'm sure, Like,

662
00:33:57,319 --> 00:33:59,440
I mean, these guys are human and they're ultra competitive,

663
00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:02,119
like I'm sure for Foxing, you know, at some point

664
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,279
you're like, all I got to do is beat this

665
00:34:04,319 --> 00:34:07,000
guy heads up, and I win this, you know, and

666
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,719
then like and then you're in and then you're in

667
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,719
contention again once you win that event, you know, late

668
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,760
in USPO and you're like, oh, I get a shot again,

669
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,639
like is this going to be the time type of thing?

670
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,159
Speaker 3: So yeah, I looked at you know, that last day

671
00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:22,280
of the USPO, I looked at all our series and

672
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,760
where the leaderboards finished, and I looked at fox and yeah,

673
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,119
as you mentioned, he hasn't won one.

674
00:34:28,559 --> 00:34:32,199
Speaker 2: But he's got a second, three thirds, a fourth, and

675
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,039
two fifths on series leaderboards over the last five years.

676
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,039
That's just kind of incredible that he's getting so close

677
00:34:41,559 --> 00:34:44,440
in all these majors and just you know, a couple

678
00:34:44,519 --> 00:34:47,320
points short, you know, maybe a couple of ladder up

679
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,440
short here and there, so he'll come, He'll get one.

680
00:34:51,519 --> 00:34:53,599
He's he's always going to be in contention. He's always

681
00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:56,920
going to be a betting favorite to top the leaderboard.

682
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,599
And you know, if he keeps making fifty k.

683
00:34:59,639 --> 00:35:02,519
Speaker 3: Beds Lona's and Negrando and all these guys, he's always

684
00:35:02,559 --> 00:35:06,079
going to have a little extra carrot to chase.

685
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 2: You know, at the end of that race.

686
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 1: Well, why didn't we see a fifty k bed for USPO.

687
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:12,559
Speaker 3: Maybe?

688
00:35:12,679 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 2: Look to be honest, I was.

689
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,039
Speaker 1: I was shocked because I was like, well, they're all

690
00:35:16,039 --> 00:35:18,360
going to want their money back, Like, well that is

691
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,920
now what you do? Like who cares? I already lost

692
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,880
fifty k, Like now I got to try and run

693
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:22,199
it back.

694
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, maybe they was and there wasn't

695
00:35:26,159 --> 00:35:30,599
just as publicized as the PLO as the PLO one,

696
00:35:31,079 --> 00:35:34,000
But yeah, maybe they just didn't have enough people that

697
00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:36,800
were interested. Maybe it was only say Fox and Lonas

698
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,320
and Negrando and they didn't think it was worth it

699
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:39,840
or something.

700
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,079
Speaker 1: So and then I gave some some flowers to Lance

701
00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:45,000
Bradley for that piece on Shannon Shore. I got to

702
00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:47,760
give one to actually a good friend of Lance, Tim

703
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:52,920
Furorvanti aka Tim Turn, who wrote about Jesse Lonis winning

704
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,639
the five hunder k PLO side bet over on poker

705
00:35:56,679 --> 00:35:58,960
dot Org. So you guys can check that out. You

706
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,800
can head over to poker dot or it's called they

707
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,199
Want to Gamble. Jesse Want has won five hundred k

708
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,320
PLO bet on himself. So that's a good story over

709
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,760
there if you want to read a little bit more

710
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,519
about that, and you know, hear from Jesse himself on

711
00:36:12,159 --> 00:36:18,519
winning that side bets numbers once again held super strong

712
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,159
for the PGT PLO series is this and and listen,

713
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,079
we didn't have a whole bunch of guys. Yeah, that

714
00:36:26,079 --> 00:36:28,840
that probably would have accounted for I'll say anywhere from

715
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,559
five to fifteen, maybe even twenty entries per event. I'm

716
00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:37,079
not joking because Tim knows. But every event is unlimited

717
00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:41,679
re entry until the final event. And like Elis Parson

718
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:47,199
in you know, uh ye Joni Yokamin and like they're

719
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,039
gonna blast, especially in the Bounty events, blast blast blast,

720
00:36:51,119 --> 00:36:54,599
like absolutely blast so but but numbers once again held

721
00:36:54,599 --> 00:36:57,639
st strong. So like, is are we ever going to

722
00:36:57,679 --> 00:37:00,360
see this popularity die down in PLO? Like what the

723
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,280
heck is with it? Like every time we have one

724
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,599
of these series, and we now do two of them

725
00:37:03,639 --> 00:37:05,199
a year, they just continue to crush.

726
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, first we got to look at it,

727
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:09,960
and from our perspective, the operator is just, you know,

728
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,960
be careful. We don't want to make any mistakes and

729
00:37:13,039 --> 00:37:16,000
kind of run too many events because we see the

730
00:37:16,039 --> 00:37:19,239
World Series obviously they added one hundred K this year,

731
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,039
Paradise added one hundred K, so there's a lot of

732
00:37:22,199 --> 00:37:26,840
high stakes PLO for these players to play. Tryin obviously

733
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,079
does stuff, so we need to be careful not to

734
00:37:30,199 --> 00:37:36,519
kind of flood the market. But you know, PLO is popular.

735
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,320
We did, you know, start talking about schedules a little

736
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:40,159
bit when we were there.

737
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 2: Players.

738
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 3: Honestly, I think our players, you know you talked about

739
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,599
the finish guys. I think our players more interested in

740
00:37:48,639 --> 00:37:51,800
adding maybe another five K, killing one of the fifteen ks.

741
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,079
Main reason is they can get some you know, a

742
00:37:55,079 --> 00:37:57,880
bigger field, more fresh faces in the studio, and I

743
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,719
think that kind of helps the overall you know, Omaha ecosystem.

744
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,360
That doesn't seem like it's going to die anytime soon,

745
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,360
but we don't want to speed up that if that

746
00:38:07,519 --> 00:38:09,559
is around the corner. Now.

747
00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: I know you weren't there for the event, but the

748
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:18,159
PLO series did feature the pgt's first ever Mystery Bounty Tournament.

749
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:23,239
And I remember, like during it happening, walking by tournament

750
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,599
director Paul Campbell from ARI and he said, these guys

751
00:38:25,639 --> 00:38:27,400
love it, they absolutely love it. We need to do

752
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,000
more of these. And I was like, yeah, they're in.

753
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,159
You know, how like, do you have any feedback on it?

754
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,400
How do you think it went? You know, I think

755
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,920
the turnout was pretty good for it, seventy eight entries.

756
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,039
Now I know it's it's probably not as fun because

757
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:41,679
two guys want all the bounties.

758
00:38:42,199 --> 00:38:45,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I didn't say how that could. That seems ragged.

759
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: I mean it was wild how it happened too, because

760
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,559
so in this tournament, twelve spots pay. But the way

761
00:38:52,599 --> 00:38:56,320
that you set it up is the bounties kick in

762
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,960
before the payouts kick in. Yeah, it's kind of like

763
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,360
this double bubble. So the bounties kicked in when there

764
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,199
were fifteen players left three off the money, and once

765
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,639
that happened, you know, they kind of do the whole Like, okay, guys,

766
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,880
the bounties are now on play. Then all of a sudden,

767
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,519
there's a four way all in at the table involving

768
00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:17,400
Bryce Yocky. Bryce Yockey already has a bazillion chips. He

769
00:39:17,559 --> 00:39:21,440
ends up busting three players on one hand. One hand,

770
00:39:21,679 --> 00:39:25,440
they are in the money. One hand, Bryce Yackey gets

771
00:39:25,519 --> 00:39:28,960
three bounties. Okay, now in a mystery bounty, you don't

772
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,039
have to go pull your bounties right away. You can

773
00:39:31,039 --> 00:39:34,079
do it whenever you want. He didn't pull right away.

774
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:39,840
On another table, Tyler Brown gets in this enormous pot

775
00:39:40,119 --> 00:39:42,119
where that he gets all the money in. He ends

776
00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:48,840
up busting someone and they he I'm like standing kind

777
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,480
of behind him, and he like looks over and he's

778
00:39:52,519 --> 00:39:53,920
kind of like he's in the middle of the room

779
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,800
and like Bryce's table is on the kind of in

780
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,519
the corner by the cage. It's about i'll say, twenty

781
00:39:58,559 --> 00:40:00,519
five feet thirty feet away from him. He's like, oh,

782
00:40:00,519 --> 00:40:03,440
did Bryce draw yet? And you know, everyone's like no,

783
00:40:03,559 --> 00:40:06,239
so he's getting dealt in. He gets his next hand,

784
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,119
I think he just folds it. He immediately goes over

785
00:40:08,159 --> 00:40:10,039
to the to the drunk. He's like, I'm gonna pull

786
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,880
boom one hundred and twenty five k, biggest bounty. And

787
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,000
Bryce is like, what the.

788
00:40:14,039 --> 00:40:16,679
Speaker 2: F I don't know.

789
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:17,559
Speaker 3: I mean, you could have went and.

790
00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:19,599
Speaker 1: Pulled your bounties, Bryce, but you didn't. So it was

791
00:40:19,679 --> 00:40:22,639
just it was funny. And then Tyler Brown pulls his

792
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:28,039
second bounty fifty k straightway well like like shortly thereafter,

793
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,119
but he did it before Bryce pulled again. So and

794
00:40:32,159 --> 00:40:33,679
then he's and there was I think there was two

795
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,800
fifty k's right, So he pulls with the biggest, the

796
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,480
second biggest one. Then he pulls a third bounty. He

797
00:40:39,519 --> 00:40:42,000
pulls twenty five K, which was the third biggest amount.

798
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,639
So boom boom boom won two three, you know, in

799
00:40:44,679 --> 00:40:48,880
descending order, the three biggest amounts available. Just absolutely wild stuff.

800
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 3: It was.

801
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun, It was electric, and

802
00:40:51,519 --> 00:40:55,159
it it also led to this super super weird dynamic

803
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,000
because these guys were going nuts with the bounties. We

804
00:40:59,079 --> 00:41:02,760
get down to like six handed or five handed they're

805
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,079
like average stack, one hundred big blind's deep, yeah, which

806
00:41:06,119 --> 00:41:09,000
you never see. And I'm like, and Maury the President

807
00:41:09,079 --> 00:41:10,360
happened to be there, and I was like, I go

808
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:11,920
find Marey. I'm like, Maury, we got to figure out

809
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,039
what to do because like, we can't have these guys

810
00:41:14,119 --> 00:41:18,360
come back the next day with you know, five players

811
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,559
left being a hundred big blinds deep. That's just gonna

812
00:41:21,559 --> 00:41:24,199
be It's gonna be a twenty hour final table. That's

813
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,679
the dumbest thing I've ever heard. So he's like, yeah,

814
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,199
we got to play him down. But you know, from

815
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,639
an entertainment side, Daniel Legrandu is in, so like we

816
00:41:32,639 --> 00:41:34,719
don't want to risk him busting as well. So it's

817
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,440
like this weird, this weird thing.

818
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:37,519
Speaker 2: Do you think they.

819
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,639
Speaker 3: Could have finished I'm just trying to think ahead the

820
00:41:39,679 --> 00:41:41,840
next time, but could they have finished out of ending

821
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:46,719
one day? So, like, would it have finished at say

822
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:47,280
four am?

823
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: Do you think it probably would have finished in one day? Okay,

824
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:56,719
not super late. I mean listen the triple elimination after everything, yeh,

825
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,920
you know, like that was just that was ridiculous. All

826
00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:03,079
So I'm like, I know that there's bounties in play, yes,

827
00:42:03,199 --> 00:42:06,840
but like, I mean, some of these bounties were five K,

828
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,800
ten K. It's not like they were all one hundred

829
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,960
and twenty five and fifty. Like they were going nuts

830
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,679
for these bounties, and I wanted some five in this,

831
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,280
so I know, but it was like, did it really

832
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,679
make sense to go as crazy as they were going

833
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,800
for the bounties? Is kind of what I'm getting at. Yeah, Okay,

834
00:42:21,199 --> 00:42:24,480
Then there's this weird dynamic where like they're I got

835
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,320
to see if I remember this correctly. But they get down,

836
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:30,280
they get down to four handed, and Daniel looks at me,

837
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,599
and Daniel's like, we got to keep playing, and I'm like, yeah,

838
00:42:32,679 --> 00:42:35,280
it makes no sense. They're like like ninety big blinds deep.

839
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,000
I'm like, this is the most absurd thing. But then

840
00:42:38,039 --> 00:42:40,679
Taylor Wilson is like, I don't really want to keep playing.

841
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,840
And then Daniel's like, well, we got to keep playing.

842
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,239
Why don't we play till like the end of like

843
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,599
we'll play through this level and play the next level

844
00:42:48,679 --> 00:42:50,199
or something like that, which would have been like I

845
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,440
don't know, forty minutes or an hour or something like that.

846
00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:55,679
So that so Taylor Wilson's like, yeah, but then Taylor

847
00:42:55,679 --> 00:42:58,280
Wilson was like, I have its flight tomorrow, and so

848
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,360
then Daniel's like, well, then you make no sense. Why

849
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,360
don't you want to play as far down as possible today?

850
00:43:03,519 --> 00:43:04,800
Like why do you want to stop and come back

851
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,840
tomorrow if you have a flight and then your flight?

852
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,079
Like this doesn't make any sense. Dan, It's like you're

853
00:43:10,119 --> 00:43:12,920
making no sense, buddy, Like what's what's going on here?

854
00:43:13,599 --> 00:43:15,639
They end up they end up finishing. It ends up

855
00:43:15,639 --> 00:43:18,719
being Taylor Wilson ends up busting out and they're still

856
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,440
super deep, Bryce Jockey, Tyler Brown and Daniel and ground

857
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,280
here they stop three handed and they come back the

858
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,519
next day so we can stream it. But it was

859
00:43:25,639 --> 00:43:28,239
it was just such a wild end to the night,

860
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,199
Like you just never see people be that deep. And

861
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,519
this was like this is like nine to nine pm.

862
00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:35,199
This wasn't like you know, one in the morning. This

863
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,400
is like super early.

864
00:43:36,639 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

865
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: And like, of course, you know all the guys because

866
00:43:40,119 --> 00:43:41,880
some of them are in the bet, like you know,

867
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,599
for the fifty k side bets, so they want to

868
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:45,880
play all the tournaments. They obviously want to play all

869
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,760
the tournaments anyway, but when you have the fifty k

870
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,760
side bet, you definitely want to play all the tournaments,

871
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,599
so like they don't want to come back the next

872
00:43:51,679 --> 00:43:54,079
day a hunter, big Blind's deep and risk not being

873
00:43:54,119 --> 00:43:56,039
able to get into that fifteen K. So it was

874
00:43:56,079 --> 00:43:58,360
just it was a whole thing, but it was It

875
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,840
was absolutely wild. But have the what have the players

876
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,280
said about the Mystery Bountie anything? Loved it, hated it?

877
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,599
Speaker 3: I mean, I haven't heard a lot, but the only

878
00:44:07,639 --> 00:44:10,280
thing what I have heard is pretty positive. So I

879
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,880
don't think it's going to go anywhere. I guess it's

880
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,719
more of a question of do we want to add

881
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,440
more Mystery Bounties to the PLO series? Do we want

882
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,000
to you know, change change that up? Do we want

883
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,199
to do a five K? You know, it's there's a

884
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:24,760
lot of problems with it rightither It is a bit

885
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,960
more labor intensive for Aria, but then for us it

886
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,280
does affect it's harder to predict the stream, so you know,

887
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,480
like you kind of touched on, we've got to play

888
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,159
a little deeper down to four players potentially, you know,

889
00:44:36,199 --> 00:44:38,559
on day one, So there's a lot a lot more

890
00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:40,920
to it, but hey, we're going to do whatever the

891
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,639
players want and whatever gets good numbers.

892
00:44:42,639 --> 00:44:45,639
Speaker 1: I think overall. Did you have other feedback from the

893
00:44:45,639 --> 00:44:48,280
players on this series. I know, the PLO series is

894
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,519
one that you know, you kind of have switched up

895
00:44:51,039 --> 00:44:54,559
how it's it's looked, and then this one went. I

896
00:44:54,599 --> 00:44:57,719
believe it was like it had it had like the

897
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,559
different buying levels like five K, ten K, fifteen K,

898
00:45:00,599 --> 00:45:04,639
and it was like regular PLO bounty then regular then

899
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,719
regular bounty regul you know what I mean? Like, is

900
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,079
that is that? Is this the best one you think

901
00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:11,480
that you've done? What do the players think? Do they

902
00:45:11,519 --> 00:45:13,639
want anything back? I mean one of the things that

903
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,000
I hear, I hear it. I know why we don't

904
00:45:17,039 --> 00:45:19,159
do it, but but everyone's always like, you know, you'll

905
00:45:19,159 --> 00:45:21,559
hear it, and it's like Alan Castler says it, and

906
00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:23,280
like I don't really care what he says, but I'm

907
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,199
just I'm just bringing it up to bring up, bring

908
00:45:25,199 --> 00:45:26,800
it up and ask you a question. But you know

909
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,679
why no Polo high low. Yeah, I mean, I personally

910
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,599
think Polohilo would fit more in like the Mixed Game

911
00:45:33,679 --> 00:45:36,400
series than it doesn't the PLO series. You know, I

912
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,960
would rather if you didn't anything here, like you would

913
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,800
add a five card PLO.

914
00:45:40,559 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 3: I mean We've tried both and they haven't been that successful.

915
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,159
So we are all about, you know, maximizing our numbers,

916
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,599
and those two don't fit the bill in this In

917
00:45:51,639 --> 00:45:55,159
this schedule, we're gone all high. Yeah we do. We

918
00:45:55,199 --> 00:45:59,320
go high bounty high, you know, high bounty high. That

919
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,840
seems to be a good flow, so probably kind of

920
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,760
keep that. And you know, I think we just got

921
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,559
to tweak some things. You know, maybe there's too many.

922
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,559
We've got to cut a fifteen K off and add

923
00:46:10,559 --> 00:46:13,639
another five k. Do we want to make the five

924
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,119
k progressive and mystery boundiye, Like we're all about trying

925
00:46:16,159 --> 00:46:19,239
new things to see what kind of sticks, and also

926
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,400
giving players options that they don't really have. There's not

927
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,599
really any five K or ten K plow progressive bounties

928
00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:28,280
in the world except for us. Never really been a

929
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,599
fifteen K plow mystery bounty. So we're doing new things,

930
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,480
we're experimenting, we're seeing what players like, and we kind

931
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,159
of fit to what the masses want, all right.

932
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,519
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I like it. I think it's great.

933
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,599
Do you think it's going to be the similar schedule

934
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,639
and length for the second series?

935
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 2: I thought maybe eleven events was a little too long.

936
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: You know, it seemed like the thing lasted for freaking Yeah.

937
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,079
I was like, is have any money left?

938
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 3: Yeah? I thought it was too long. I talked to

939
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,559
you know, say I talked to Bryce about it. He

940
00:46:57,599 --> 00:46:59,440
was like, I think it was fine because you know,

941
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,400
at of the players here only play plow. You know,

942
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,800
it is a little long for Negrano and Lonnus and

943
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,960
Alex Fox and that play all the other stuff as well,

944
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,039
But for say Bryce or you know, Ronald Kaijer, just

945
00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:15,000
the pure plow guys, it's not long at all.

946
00:47:15,039 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 2: It's kind of perfect.

947
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:20,159
Speaker 3: So knowing that, okay, that's I guess eleven isn't too bad.

948
00:47:20,199 --> 00:47:23,880
But come October, we definitely want to try and bring

949
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,760
back the hundred K. So trying to fit this in

950
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,559
with a very already busy October with you know, with

951
00:47:29,639 --> 00:47:33,320
some other high stake stuff planned, maybe the series gets

952
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,519
cut down a little bit. We go down to eight events,

953
00:47:35,559 --> 00:47:39,280
just so it can you know, what they're spending is

954
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,880
essentially can be fairly equivalent once we add like one

955
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,960
hundred K to the end of the series.

956
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think you would probably want to cut

957
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,159
it down if you're going to put one hundred k

958
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,559
on the end as well, you know, just allow people

959
00:47:52,559 --> 00:47:56,599
to kind of save some money. Yeah, I guess in

960
00:47:56,639 --> 00:47:59,559
that regard. One thought is you have a mystery Bundy

961
00:47:59,559 --> 00:48:00,880
prize that's one hundred k entry.

962
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:02,679
Speaker 2: Yeah.

963
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,159
Speaker 3: It's so hard to predict those mystery bounty payouts though,

964
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:07,320
because it's so fields.

965
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,119
Speaker 1: Also the ones that you did, you know, like how

966
00:48:10,159 --> 00:48:11,760
you had it was it was, it was what it

967
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,480
was like thirty percent of the prize bowl went to

968
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,480
the mystery bounders and the rest went to the regular

969
00:48:15,519 --> 00:48:17,920
price bowl. I thought that was a great breakdown as

970
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,679
opposed to doing it fifty to fifty. You know, the

971
00:48:21,079 --> 00:48:25,320
bounties I thought were pretty hefty. I know, only two

972
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,159
people won bounties. Tyler Brown won two hundred and eighty

973
00:48:28,199 --> 00:48:30,440
thousand and Bryce Yockey won one hundred and ten thousand.

974
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,440
I mean, but that's just how things broke in this

975
00:48:33,599 --> 00:48:36,119
specific situation. But you know, one hundred and twenty five

976
00:48:36,199 --> 00:48:39,599
k for a big one. I liked how there was

977
00:48:39,639 --> 00:48:41,719
still a fifty k. There was two fifty k's, but

978
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,280
one of them was reserved for the final table. I

979
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:45,360
thought that that was great.

980
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,639
Speaker 3: That's you know, comp I have to give a big

981
00:48:47,679 --> 00:48:50,199
shout out hit to Paul Campbell because you know the

982
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,360
fact that I was playing with kangaroos and one bats

983
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,920
down in Australia. He kind of took full control of

984
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,760
the mysteries. And you know, during the summer Aria run

985
00:49:00,039 --> 00:49:01,519
a lot of mister Bounie, so he has a lot

986
00:49:01,519 --> 00:49:05,840
of experience. A lot of these tweaks were all his ideas,

987
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,239
so he wanted to keep one of the second place

988
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:09,440
ones for the final table.

989
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 2: He kind of controlled the amounts.

990
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,159
Speaker 3: We just got the all the envelopes made in advance

991
00:49:14,199 --> 00:49:16,800
so he could figure out the numbers and make sure

992
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,199
it works. So big shout out to to poll with

993
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:20,840
those ones.

994
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,559
Speaker 1: I definitely would throw in like like I know the

995
00:49:24,599 --> 00:49:27,599
fifteen K mystery boundie that we did, the lowest one

996
00:49:27,679 --> 00:49:29,360
was five K. I would have like two to one

997
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,480
ks I wanted.

998
00:49:30,559 --> 00:49:33,119
Speaker 3: I wanted a five hundred because they're they're chasing the

999
00:49:33,159 --> 00:49:35,239
big they don't care about five k or ten K.

1000
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,639
They want to win one twenty five. So how do

1001
00:49:37,679 --> 00:49:40,880
we Is there a way we can you know, make

1002
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,800
a few five hundred or one thousand ones just so

1003
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,400
we can have maybe another one hundred k somehow. That's

1004
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:48,519
what I would rather do so.

1005
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. How would we do some of

1006
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:53,480
those code works?

1007
00:49:53,679 --> 00:49:54,159
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

1008
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: You have to refresh me. I don't even know what

1009
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:58,280
we have to do.

1010
00:49:58,519 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 3: You do?

1011
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: You just say the code words? Because jingle is there.

1012
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 3: Producer Rich hasn't been working for the last seven weeks.

1013
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,480
I don't know what he's been doing, but maybe he

1014
00:50:07,519 --> 00:50:13,000
can insert a jingle. Hip p Folks at home, Me

1015
00:50:13,079 --> 00:50:15,320
and Donnie and the Pogo team, we're giving you a

1016
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,400
chance to play in the PGT Million Dollar Championship with

1017
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,719
all these guys we've been talking about on every episode. Uh.

1018
00:50:23,079 --> 00:50:25,840
And the way we're giving it me and Donnie is

1019
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,760
you're going to go to PGT dot com slash gleam pod.

1020
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 2: G l e A m p o D.

1021
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 3: It's going to take you to a little contests where

1022
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,360
you can earn raffle tickets.

1023
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 2: You basically can do all these things.

1024
00:50:38,119 --> 00:50:42,159
Speaker 3: Like retweet and follow us and and et cetera and

1025
00:50:42,199 --> 00:50:43,840
earn tickets. We're going to draw at the end of

1026
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,480
the year. One winner is going to represent the Polago

1027
00:50:46,599 --> 00:50:50,199
podcast in the PGT Championship. In that contest, there are

1028
00:50:50,199 --> 00:50:53,239
code words you can enter. We're going to update the

1029
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,000
code words, you know every so often the two new

1030
00:50:57,079 --> 00:51:01,199
code words for this week until we were again, I'm

1031
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:05,079
going to go with sure for Shannon Shaw, so s

1032
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:06,400
h O r R.

1033
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 2: And then the second code word.

1034
00:51:08,599 --> 00:51:11,639
Speaker 3: Makes sense, it's going to be lonus for Jesse loonus

1035
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,400
l O n I S. So you can enter those

1036
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:19,079
in you get max tickets for that contest, and you know,

1037
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,239
keep listening to us, keep entering, keep putting in code words,

1038
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,159
share it amongst people.

1039
00:51:25,559 --> 00:51:27,079
Speaker 2: We're trying to give you a chance to win.

1040
00:51:27,199 --> 00:51:33,039
Speaker 3: And also if you go to PGT dot com slash gleam,

1041
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,719
it takes you another contest the same kind of things,

1042
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,480
but it's not probably good podcast related. But there is

1043
00:51:38,519 --> 00:51:42,079
still some tasks you can do to also win a

1044
00:51:42,159 --> 00:51:45,360
seat into the PGT Million Dollar Championship.

1045
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, the one u ur L and we should probably

1046
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,920
just put it in the show notes or in the

1047
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,119
description of my podcast.

1048
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1049
00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: PGT dot com slash dream dash Seat is the page

1050
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,360
that outlines everything all the different promotions on how you

1051
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,920
can possibly win a dream seat. So you can go

1052
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,719
to that page and you know, I mean it's a

1053
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,599
lot of text and whatnot, but it says, you.

1054
00:52:11,599 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 2: Know, everything was lanked in this.

1055
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:17,079
Speaker 1: This is the podcast giveaway. This is the gleam social

1056
00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:19,599
media giveaway. This is the you know partnership we have

1057
00:52:19,679 --> 00:52:21,519
with Run Good Like. So there's all the different stuff.

1058
00:52:21,519 --> 00:52:23,840
It's all on that page. And if we do add

1059
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,000
anything as we go throughout the season, we'll also add

1060
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,400
it to that page, so you know, I would keep

1061
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,599
it posted there. I would love I think I've said

1062
00:52:32,599 --> 00:52:34,639
this before when we've talked about this, I would love

1063
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,440
for a podcast listener to get into that damn PGT

1064
00:52:38,639 --> 00:52:42,199
million dollars championship and freaking run Deep make the final table.

1065
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,920
Give them hell, let's go all right? So yeah, code

1066
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:50,280
words are sure and lonus And if you didn't understand

1067
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,320
it from Tim, that's an h inshore, not a not

1068
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,039
a h.

1069
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,199
Speaker 3: I just come world series. When we're doing you know,

1070
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,800
everyday podcasts. I think we just made a jingle and

1071
00:53:01,039 --> 00:53:05,159
AI insert the words we're gonna speed that up combo serious,

1072
00:53:05,159 --> 00:53:08,159
So Producer Rich, you'd better be listening. Find us a

1073
00:53:08,199 --> 00:53:11,199
good jingle so we can do this a little more streamlined.

1074
00:53:13,599 --> 00:53:16,199
Speaker 1: All right, let's move things over to the first ever

1075
00:53:16,519 --> 00:53:20,760
Super High Roller Bowl Mixed Games. Chad eve Sledge won

1076
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,039
the damn thing one hundred thousand dollars by and he

1077
00:53:23,119 --> 00:53:26,679
won one point two million dollars. There were twenty nine

1078
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:31,039
entries in this event. The top five paid. Eve Sledge

1079
00:53:31,079 --> 00:53:33,760
came out on top one point two million. As I mentioned,

1080
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:38,079
he beat Michael Manchek aka Texas Mike seven hundred and

1081
00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:41,599
twenty five k for him, Yuri's Eve Alevski aka ury

1082
00:53:41,679 --> 00:53:44,400
nerd guy out of Brazil, but I believe he relocated

1083
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,519
to Miami third place for four hundred and fifty k,

1084
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,480
Daniel Legran new fourth place for three hundred k, and

1085
00:53:50,519 --> 00:53:54,159
then Benny Glazar fifth place for two hundred and twenty

1086
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,880
five thousand dollars. Before we talk about this event a

1087
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,280
little bit more, Tim did an interview with Eve Sledge

1088
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,000
after eve Sledge grabbed the title. So let's kick it

1089
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,760
to that interview right now and then we will be

1090
00:54:07,039 --> 00:54:07,559
right back.

1091
00:54:08,639 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 3: Chad, congratulations, first ever Super high roller Ball Mixed Games Champion.

1092
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,079
I want to know, as a mixed game player, what's

1093
00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:18,440
it like that. You know, we've had the fifty k

1094
00:54:18,519 --> 00:54:20,599
for fifteen plus years or so, now we have one

1095
00:54:20,679 --> 00:54:21,840
hundred K mixed tournament.

1096
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 2: What does that mean? Do you think to the mixname community.

1097
00:54:24,679 --> 00:54:27,159
Speaker 4: I think it's a good signal on I mean, everyone

1098
00:54:27,159 --> 00:54:29,480
who comes in the mix typically stays in mixed because

1099
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,199
it's it's a lot of fun. People love it, and

1100
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,119
getting more exposure will bring more people in. I mean,

1101
00:54:35,119 --> 00:54:37,639
it could really explode if it gets enough people. But

1102
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,880
because people once they come in, they don't leave. It's

1103
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,800
they're like everyone says the same thing. It's way more

1104
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:42,599
fun than no Limit.

1105
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: It's like that.

1106
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,119
Speaker 4: So it's a great sign that the mix is kind

1107
00:54:47,159 --> 00:54:47,519
of growing.

1108
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 3: We've had four PGTM mix same series, and obviously this

1109
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,400
is the first super high roller ball. When you heard

1110
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,440
that we're going to do one hundred k, whether it

1111
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,639
was through the WhatsApp chats or you know, through social

1112
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,800
what was your first thought when that came out?

1113
00:54:58,800 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 2: When those needs come out?

1114
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 4: First off was like, well, I'm gonna play, but that's

1115
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:03,480
a lot of money.

1116
00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 3: But I was excited.

1117
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 4: I knew I was gonna play it.

1118
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,679
Speaker 3: I just I was excited.

1119
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 4: I mean it was I thought it was going to

1120
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,320
be like I thought it was gonna be smaller. Honestly,

1121
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,400
I mean everyone here did a really good job promoted

1122
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,480
it and getting it big, especially when Jju was going

1123
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,039
on it would have. I mean, I can't believe how

1124
00:55:20,039 --> 00:55:21,480
big it would have got. We probably have got another

1125
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,760
ten people if JJU wasn't going on.

1126
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,039
Speaker 2: So when you.

1127
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 3: Know, you played all the PGTAM Mixed Games events leading

1128
00:55:27,039 --> 00:55:28,480
up to this and we had really you know, we

1129
00:55:28,519 --> 00:55:32,360
had record breaking numbers. Was that do you automatically think, hey,

1130
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,239
this one hundred k is going to be big? Or

1131
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:35,920
it was because of the buying. It was always be

1132
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,320
like we just done not Yeah.

1133
00:55:37,639 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 4: Everyone was kind of debating it. I thought it was

1134
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,400
going to be small, like hundred k is like you know,

1135
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,000
everyone says, yeah, I'll probably play, but hundred k is

1136
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,000
a lot of money. And yeah, I mean it blew

1137
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,960
my expectations. I would have thought it would have got

1138
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,559
about twenty but yeah, what did we even twenty nine?

1139
00:55:53,559 --> 00:55:57,199
Speaker 3: Twenty nine? Yeah, that's pretty sick. So we you know,

1140
00:55:57,199 --> 00:55:58,920
we're trying to make this the kind of mix game

1141
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,840
to play. Obviously it's it's hard to ever rival the WSP,

1142
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,400
but you know, there's ten games and this makes you know,

1143
00:56:04,679 --> 00:56:07,840
one more than WSP, a lot less than the Dealer's Choice.

1144
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,440
What do you think would be right to be the

1145
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,719
kind of mix you know, the super hyroll makes this

1146
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,159
ten game kind of ideal, do you.

1147
00:56:14,079 --> 00:56:16,679
Speaker 4: Think I think ten games good, but Doogie is nice.

1148
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,880
I think that's a good addition. PLO No Limit definitely

1149
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:21,920
should be in there. I think I think it's just

1150
00:56:22,159 --> 00:56:24,360
kind of perfect. Actually, I don't think there's really one

1151
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,760
game that that anybody's like, oh, that should be in there.

1152
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,480
It's just like it's got a little bit of everything

1153
00:56:29,559 --> 00:56:32,280
and like enough variety. The word it's challenging where you know,

1154
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,840
the big dead players would have to kind of bob

1155
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,039
and weave and like Paougie and stuff. So I think

1156
00:56:37,039 --> 00:56:37,840
it's a good balance.

1157
00:56:39,159 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 3: You have WPT title, you have four WSB Bracists now

1158
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,679
Super High Rollable title. They're all different, you know, big feels,

1159
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,440
you know, bracelests a special, this is special. Where does

1160
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,320
this rank in kind of all your poker accomplishments throughout

1161
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:51,679
your career?

1162
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 4: I think this this might actually be my my favorite one.

1163
00:56:56,159 --> 00:57:01,400
Like my first WPT win was just like probably the

1164
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,000
most special to me, just because I was like kind

1165
00:57:04,039 --> 00:57:07,719
of like that was like heater begins and it was

1166
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,000
just it was more exciting, like you know, this was

1167
00:57:10,039 --> 00:57:11,840
this Don't get me wrong, this was exciting, but it's

1168
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,920
like it gets it's not the same when it's not

1169
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,119
the first one. But as far as like my favorites,

1170
00:57:17,159 --> 00:57:18,480
I mean, that's got to be this one, this one,

1171
00:57:18,519 --> 00:57:21,039
Like I would much rather have this title than like

1172
00:57:21,159 --> 00:57:23,639
a you know, a random fifteen hundred world series or

1173
00:57:23,639 --> 00:57:24,320
something like that.

1174
00:57:24,599 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 2: Perfect answer for us.

1175
00:57:25,559 --> 00:57:27,119
Speaker 3: I want to talk a little bit about the players.

1176
00:57:28,079 --> 00:57:30,320
Pretty much every player in this field. You got a

1177
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,920
lot of experience, you know, whether it's WSP, whether it's online,

1178
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,519
whether it's playing on these apps whatever. But Texas Mike

1179
00:57:36,559 --> 00:57:39,360
the guy you kind of went heads up with, how

1180
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,800
do you approach playing him, you know, in the four

1181
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,400
ring settings, and also then heads up with him not

1182
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,679
as versed in some of these you know, yeah mixed games.

1183
00:57:48,039 --> 00:57:51,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's like I feel like the people that come

1184
00:57:51,559 --> 00:57:55,400
in here, there's kind of generalities about them, where like

1185
00:57:55,599 --> 00:58:00,719
beginners often make the similar mistakes. However, Hike was making

1186
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,519
was like his was all bizarre. He was like really

1187
00:58:03,519 --> 00:58:05,480
aggressive and something. I mean I thought I thought he

1188
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,440
played pretty well actually, especially for not having much experience.

1189
00:58:08,519 --> 00:58:10,920
I mean, like like I said to the other guy,

1190
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,199
I mean the URI call, he thought it out exactly perfect,

1191
00:58:13,239 --> 00:58:16,320
and I was like I you know, I'm not sure

1192
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,280
this was running through URI's mind, but I think Uri

1193
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,440
thought that Mike wouldn't put it together because he's kind

1194
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,400
of newish and like, because I don't think Uri would

1195
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:24,599
run that bluff that often.

1196
00:58:24,599 --> 00:58:25,039
Speaker 3: I don't know he.

1197
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 2: Switching back here to the PGT.

1198
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 3: You know, you picked up four hundred points here, you

1199
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,119
had it, you know, a casher in the Mix Game series.

1200
00:58:31,159 --> 00:58:34,079
Obviously we have WSP coming up. We do a million

1201
00:58:34,119 --> 00:58:36,239
dollar free roll. Is that something you know? Not a

1202
00:58:36,239 --> 00:58:37,960
lot of mixed guys get into the free roll just

1203
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,000
because of the amount of mixed events, But is that

1204
00:58:40,079 --> 00:58:41,559
something you know? You've got a pretty good start, right

1205
00:58:41,599 --> 00:58:43,360
non you know, is this something you really want to chase?

1206
00:58:43,679 --> 00:58:45,679
Speaker 4: It's definitely in my mind. I mean I will play,

1207
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,199
I'll plably play the twenty five k no limits and like,

1208
00:58:48,559 --> 00:58:50,880
you know, if I'm really close, then maybe I'll jump

1209
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:52,920
into like the fifty k oh limits at the World Series.

1210
00:58:55,519 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 3: All right.

1211
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: So that was Chad eve Sledge after his win. I

1212
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,960
know it's a couple of weeks old now, but still

1213
00:59:03,119 --> 00:59:07,199
very important. First ever one hundred K buy in Mixed

1214
00:59:07,199 --> 00:59:11,480
games tournament, the largest ever. How do you think it went?

1215
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,760
It was three days. It was long, but it was fun.

1216
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:17,920
I thought it was pretty incredible.

1217
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty nine entrance was definitely more than I expected

1218
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:24,639
leading into it.

1219
00:59:24,679 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 2: We had no idea, but never done this before. It

1220
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:27,039
had never been done.

1221
00:59:27,039 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 3: We're hoping for two tables two, maybe we get to three,

1222
00:59:31,119 --> 00:59:35,440
have some fun, what some money, But to get to

1223
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,159
twenty nine is kind of incredible. For shout out to

1224
00:59:38,719 --> 00:59:42,400
Phil Sterenheimer for really behind the scenes sending texts and

1225
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:48,119
you know, running online satellites and really you know, forcing

1226
00:59:48,239 --> 00:59:50,760
the action, as I may say, to get people out here.

1227
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,800
And even on that the eve of the event, you know,

1228
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:58,920
the satellite doing this crazy deal that involved tallal him

1229
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,400
and Sam Stonefield just to ensure that Sternfield had a

1230
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,440
seat and also Tall I will guarantee to play too,

1231
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,719
because you know, Phil was always in. But yeah, twenty

1232
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,559
nine entrants. It's just a fantastic result. And I think

1233
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,679
a lot of there was a lot of fomo out there.

1234
01:00:14,719 --> 01:00:17,960
We heard from players that they were kind of they

1235
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,280
were unsure and now they kind of regret not playing.

1236
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:21,880
There's people that went to try and that kind of

1237
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,719
wish they didn't go to Tryton just to play this event,

1238
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,199
So yeah, massive success in my eyes.

1239
01:00:28,559 --> 01:00:30,519
Speaker 1: Who were some of those players? I mean, I know

1240
01:00:30,599 --> 01:00:32,519
Jared Blesnik I saw him talk about.

1241
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,519
Speaker 3: Jared was a big one that you know, kind of

1242
01:00:34,519 --> 01:00:36,440
regretted going to try and we heard, you know, in

1243
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,280
the Nacho wish he you know, he did okay there,

1244
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,719
but wish he kind of stuck around to play that.

1245
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,480
So and we saw people skipped skip trying, you know,

1246
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,320
we saw ras he skipped tried, Nick Sulman skip Triyton.

1247
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,320
Although Scott Seever isn't known to go there, he's very

1248
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,079
capable to go to try it and play. But you

1249
01:00:54,119 --> 01:00:56,599
know he played every every event in the Mix Sam

1250
01:00:56,719 --> 01:00:59,519
series and the Super High Rollable Mix. So that was

1251
01:00:59,559 --> 01:01:04,119
a great thing. If you know, hopefully bring it back.

1252
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,519
If we can just fade Hied, maybe that number twenty

1253
01:01:06,599 --> 01:01:09,320
nine starts creeping up, we can, Hey, let's sayme for

1254
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,400
thirty five entries next time.

1255
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: Jeremy Osmas was a Triton. He was a tried and

1256
01:01:14,719 --> 01:01:17,360
I know they weren't at Triton, but the two commentators

1257
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,679
I think certainly would love to play Alex Livingston and

1258
01:01:20,719 --> 01:01:24,320
Christmas commentary for all three days if you want to

1259
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:28,079
learn about mixed games. It is incredible commentary incredible from

1260
01:01:28,199 --> 01:01:30,719
Livingston and Witch. You can find it on Poker Go,

1261
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:32,639
you can find it on the Poker Goro YouTube channel.

1262
01:01:32,639 --> 01:01:35,679
But they did three days of coverage for this event.

1263
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,960
So you get the best players in mixed games in

1264
01:01:39,039 --> 01:01:42,719
the world playing one hundred k buy in, super long,

1265
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,800
drawn out structure, player friendly structure, whole bunch of different games,

1266
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,000
and then you get two of the best minds in

1267
01:01:49,039 --> 01:01:52,280
the booth. It was incredible if you want to like

1268
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:56,519
learn and just you know, get insight into their brains,

1269
01:01:56,519 --> 01:01:59,760
which isn't obviously easily accessible, Like you can't just phone

1270
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:01,239
up Alex let Meson and be like, hey what do

1271
01:02:01,239 --> 01:02:03,280
you think about this? Or call Chris Bitch be like hey,

1272
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,360
what do you think about this? But this was like

1273
01:02:05,679 --> 01:02:08,440
I don't even know how long it was, fifteen hours

1274
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,800
of some of the twenty hours of coverage, whatever it was,

1275
01:02:11,039 --> 01:02:13,519
and it's all them. It's just those two in the booth,

1276
01:02:14,039 --> 01:02:16,840
you know, going back and forth, you know, talking through things.

1277
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,880
So I would highly encourage anyone who missed this, who has,

1278
01:02:20,159 --> 01:02:23,159
you know, even the slightest interest in mixed games to

1279
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,079
check it out. And I think that those two guys

1280
01:02:25,119 --> 01:02:27,280
as well are probably like, you know, next year, I

1281
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,159
really want to try and play it. Obviously, they probably

1282
01:02:29,199 --> 01:02:31,440
had a lot of fun being in the booth. Yes,

1283
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,880
but I think you know, you see it and you're like, wow,

1284
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,880
I got twenty nine entries, Like I you know, I

1285
01:02:36,119 --> 01:02:38,559
should be in there. You know what am I doing?

1286
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 3: Yeah that you know, they're absolutely fantastic behind the mic.

1287
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:45,440
But yeah, you're right, they probably wanted to be in there.

1288
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,280
They didn't have the best mix game series, so that

1289
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,239
was probably one reason as well.

1290
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 2: But yes, twenty nine entrance. We never we never saw

1291
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:54,920
that one coming.

1292
01:02:55,039 --> 01:02:57,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the satellite that you mentioned had seventeen

1293
01:02:57,679 --> 01:03:00,840
entries twelve thy seven hundred dollars buying in that one.

1294
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:02,920
It got two seats and then a little bit of

1295
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,719
money left over for third, which ended up going to

1296
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:09,639
Phil Sternheimer after they had that long negotiation that lasted

1297
01:03:09,719 --> 01:03:14,079
like forty five minutes for Yeah, you got any player

1298
01:03:14,079 --> 01:03:16,280
feedback from it other than you know, the players who

1299
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,280
were like, oh I should have stuck around and played.

1300
01:03:18,719 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 3: I mean no, outside of let's do this again and

1301
01:03:22,679 --> 01:03:24,639
let's try not to make it over that with try

1302
01:03:24,719 --> 01:03:29,320
and that's about it. So no complaints about the construction,

1303
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:33,239
no complaints about the ten games choice that we did.

1304
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,320
So yeah, we're just going to try and figure out

1305
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,519
how to do it again next year. And you know,

1306
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,599
let's just yeah, that's all I really can say right now.

1307
01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 1: So we used we first on the PGT when we

1308
01:03:48,079 --> 01:03:51,159
implemented the PGT Mix Game series. We came out that season,

1309
01:03:51,199 --> 01:03:54,440
we had two of them. You know, we ended up

1310
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,400
thinking like, okay, you know, maybe two's too much, right,

1311
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,679
and we went back to just doing one. I mean,

1312
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:03,599
is is one PGT mixed game series coupled with this

1313
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:07,800
super high rollable mix Is that enough mixed games on

1314
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:08,320
the PGT?

1315
01:04:08,639 --> 01:04:14,599
Speaker 3: You know how You Yeah, I think it is, you know,

1316
01:04:14,679 --> 01:04:16,639
with with the mix game series and then you have

1317
01:04:16,679 --> 01:04:20,840
the World series, there's a lot of big buying mixed games.

1318
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,719
And for these guys, you know, unlike the No Limit guys,

1319
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:28,400
unlike the PLO, a lot of them are they've got

1320
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:32,320
a heavy percentage of themselves and it's not like they

1321
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,599
can drop in steaks and play a bunch of five

1322
01:04:35,719 --> 01:04:37,400
k horse events around the world.

1323
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 2: Right at least with No Limit.

1324
01:04:39,159 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 3: PLO, you have a wider variety of steaks, bigger fields,

1325
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:46,280
more money that you can win and get you know, unstuck.

1326
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,079
You can get out of any makeup you may be in.

1327
01:04:48,159 --> 01:04:51,079
But with these guys, you just really have the world series.

1328
01:04:51,119 --> 01:04:54,000
You have us, and then you have whatever cash games

1329
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,559
either in Arizona or Vegas or LA or in the

1330
01:04:57,599 --> 01:05:00,119
East Coast to play. So it's a much harder to

1331
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,760
dig out of the hull. So if we make if

1332
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:04,920
we you know, if we do add a second series,

1333
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,960
you know, we make the buyings too big, it can

1334
01:05:08,039 --> 01:05:13,000
really really hurt the playoffool. And I'm definitely not bringing this.

1335
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:15,719
We're not going to audible up one series.

1336
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 2: You know what.

1337
01:05:16,599 --> 01:05:19,679
Speaker 3: Maybe we added event L to next year to the series,

1338
01:05:19,679 --> 01:05:22,559
but that's really the most I would want to do.

1339
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 1: Just quickly, I was looking at the PGT mixed games,

1340
01:05:26,559 --> 01:05:30,880
uh you know leaderboard and the players there. Ryan Miller

1341
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,199
is somebody who I thought might hop into the Hunter K.

1342
01:05:33,559 --> 01:05:36,559
You know, he's just so good at mixed games, you know,

1343
01:05:36,639 --> 01:05:38,519
but maybe it's just the fact, I mean he had it.

1344
01:05:38,559 --> 01:05:43,119
He hit a pretty good PGT mixed game series, you know,

1345
01:05:43,159 --> 01:05:45,239
he cast for two hundred and ninety three thousand dollars,

1346
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,159
so I thought we might get him in and.

1347
01:05:47,039 --> 01:05:48,599
Speaker 2: He doesn't love the big bet stuff.

1348
01:05:48,599 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: Then yeah, but he you know, he might be one

1349
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:53,119
of those people who he sees how many players it

1350
01:05:53,239 --> 01:05:56,039
got the first time, and then next year he kind

1351
01:05:56,039 --> 01:05:58,559
of splurges, you know, to do it. We didn't get

1352
01:05:58,599 --> 01:06:02,000
Gino Reim in it, which was surprising, right and because

1353
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,400
he you know, I mean spoiler for what we're going

1354
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,239
to talk about next, but he's the winner of the

1355
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,239
PGT Mixed Game series and it's just surprising to not

1356
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:13,000
see Chino then get in to the Hunter Game Mixed

1357
01:06:14,159 --> 01:06:17,239
James Ops, who did well in the final event of

1358
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,079
the PGT Mixed Game series but had food poisoning. Yeah,

1359
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:21,880
he opted it to go home.

1360
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 3: You know.

1361
01:06:22,599 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 1: So like those are players that I think you get eventually, right,

1362
01:06:28,119 --> 01:06:28,599
I mean.

1363
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,159
Speaker 3: China played the satellites, he played the online satellites and

1364
01:06:32,719 --> 01:06:35,159
it didn't break, didn't break the right way for him.

1365
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:36,639
Speaker 2: And yeah, he had a good series.

1366
01:06:36,679 --> 01:06:38,599
Speaker 3: He you know, I know the cash games that he

1367
01:06:38,639 --> 01:06:41,519
normally plays were popping off in the poker room because

1368
01:06:41,519 --> 01:06:43,079
I went in there yelled at him for not being

1369
01:06:43,079 --> 01:06:46,960
in the live satellite. But and then Obbys had some

1370
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,800
food poisoning and he had a terrible series before the

1371
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,159
twenty five K, so he was stuck a lot and

1372
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,119
you know, digging out of the hall winning four hundred

1373
01:06:54,239 --> 01:06:57,119
sixty K or whatever it was, and the the finale.

1374
01:06:57,239 --> 01:06:59,079
It's a good way to just hey, I'm going to

1375
01:06:59,119 --> 01:07:02,840
take some profit, get back down to Australia. Yeah.

1376
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:07,079
Speaker 1: Another player who we all thought would play, David Oppenheim.

1377
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,440
You know, at first it was a question if he

1378
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,679
would play. Then he showed up for the twenty five case,

1379
01:07:11,719 --> 01:07:13,559
we were like, oh, okay, he's in. But then chip

1380
01:07:13,679 --> 01:07:15,119
the hundred k's and we're like, well, what the heck

1381
01:07:15,199 --> 01:07:15,679
is going on?

1382
01:07:16,119 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he did. He was there for the hunter K.

1383
01:07:18,559 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 3: He did come into the room for a little bit,

1384
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:22,960
so I thought maybe he would register late.

1385
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 2: I guess not. Yeah, maybe we get him next year.

1386
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean I think, I mean, I think

1387
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,440
a good number next year is thirty, Like that's the target.

1388
01:07:31,519 --> 01:07:34,599
Try and get to thirty. Yeah, however, we can do it.

1389
01:07:34,679 --> 01:07:38,559
You know, I think it's great to have somebody like

1390
01:07:38,599 --> 01:07:41,480
Phil Sternheimer behind it. You know, this is very much

1391
01:07:41,519 --> 01:07:45,360
his baby as much as it is yours. Somebody else

1392
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:48,000
who I know he wants to play it. I don't

1393
01:07:48,039 --> 01:07:50,599
know if he would ever play it with certain things.

1394
01:07:50,639 --> 01:07:54,119
But president of Poker Grow Marius Candani, I know he wants.

1395
01:07:54,199 --> 01:07:57,239
I know he wants to play very much, but you

1396
01:07:57,239 --> 01:07:59,639
know he won't play stuff if it's streamed. Like there's

1397
01:07:59,679 --> 01:08:01,880
the whole thing. I get it. But you know, this

1398
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:03,800
is definitely a bucket list item for him, and I

1399
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:06,360
think he would do very well in the field. Every

1400
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,639
time he plays these mixed games, he does very well.

1401
01:08:09,119 --> 01:08:11,119
So you know he's he's someone else.

1402
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:11,599
Speaker 3: You know.

1403
01:08:11,599 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: And then I bet you probably get like I bet

1404
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,119
next year we get like one or two kind of

1405
01:08:17,159 --> 01:08:20,600
like random European guy who we just don't know of

1406
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,399
yet but is a mixed game guy who probably just

1407
01:08:23,399 --> 01:08:26,840
sat on the sidelines and then now he sees it,

1408
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,399
he's like, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna go, I'm gonna

1409
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,800
go take the shot type of thing. So so yeah,

1410
01:08:33,279 --> 01:08:35,079
I bet we I bet we get that. And then

1411
01:08:35,239 --> 01:08:37,039
it sounds like this is going to just remain on

1412
01:08:37,079 --> 01:08:39,079
the PGT calendar. Is that that's the plan?

1413
01:08:39,319 --> 01:08:41,079
Speaker 3: I didn't say why not if we can just yeah,

1414
01:08:41,159 --> 01:08:44,439
like I said, get the scheduling riot, we can maximize

1415
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:49,680
the numbers to get you know, increase on that into

1416
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:53,880
that thirty thirty five player mark for twenty twenty six.

1417
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:57,119
Speaker 1: Did Gordonski play.

1418
01:08:58,640 --> 01:08:59,039
Speaker 3: Gordon?

1419
01:08:59,319 --> 01:09:00,319
Speaker 2: I think Kip.

1420
01:09:01,239 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 1: I think he was. I don't remember him really having

1421
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:06,840
a good mixed game series.

1422
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:09,359
Speaker 3: Hit Yeah, three cashas for one hundred and thirty three K.

1423
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:12,600
But he was always kind of, I think, on the fence.

1424
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,600
From the list of forty names that we had going

1425
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,880
into it, he was always kind of not in the

1426
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:21,000
not in the green light.

1427
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:25,159
Speaker 1: Now, what do you say when you know there's people

1428
01:09:25,159 --> 01:09:27,079
out there? We hear it. We hear it a lot

1429
01:09:27,079 --> 01:09:28,760
throughout the year. We hear it the most during the

1430
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:30,680
World Series of Poker. But people say that, you know,

1431
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:32,720
you guys need to do more mix games or mixed

1432
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:37,239
games are underrepresented. I ran through some of the numbers,

1433
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:42,239
you know, and I feel like they're very well represented

1434
01:09:42,319 --> 01:09:45,800
from Poker grows aspect, on the PGT aspect. So I mean,

1435
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,359
what are your thoughts there when people say you guys

1436
01:09:48,399 --> 01:09:49,640
don't do enough or do more.

1437
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 3: Those people are correct and they're also incorrect. And what

1438
01:09:53,039 --> 01:09:56,800
I mean by that is they are underrepresented when you

1439
01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:01,239
compare it to everything in the world, all the streams,

1440
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:04,560
all the no limits streams, the cash game tournaments plow.

1441
01:10:05,279 --> 01:10:08,239
But if you take it and look at the the

1442
01:10:08,279 --> 01:10:11,319
player pool and the percentage of players that play mix

1443
01:10:11,399 --> 01:10:14,840
I think it's, if anything, we do definitely more than

1444
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:18,039
that player pool percentage wise. So we do a lot.

1445
01:10:18,119 --> 01:10:19,600
We have a mixed game series, we have the Super

1446
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:22,119
High roller Ball. We obviously stream mixed games of the

1447
01:10:22,119 --> 01:10:25,039
World series. No one else really does any mixed games,

1448
01:10:25,119 --> 01:10:28,880
so you know, don't tell us we're not doing enough,

1449
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:32,439
tell everyone else that they're not doing enough. So I

1450
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:36,039
think it's pretty well represented in general. But you know,

1451
01:10:36,079 --> 01:10:40,920
people are always gonna complain or find a hole in something,

1452
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:42,760
and you know, we'll just take it on the chin

1453
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:44,239
and move on. Yeah.

1454
01:10:44,239 --> 01:10:47,520
Speaker 1: I was trying to look up the stats quickly that

1455
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:51,000
I shared with someone, but but I'm not able to

1456
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,800
find them right now. But I mean, we do I

1457
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,840
feel like a lot of mixed game streaming when you

1458
01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:00,800
when you factor in, we do every five table from

1459
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:05,680
the PGT mixed Game series. We did the three straight

1460
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,159
days of coverage. I mean it's like two and a

1461
01:11:08,199 --> 01:11:12,319
half days, but still of the Super High Rollable mixed games,

1462
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:16,359
you know, so that's like what ten days, twelve days

1463
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:22,479
of mixed games coverage there. We'll do a small handful

1464
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,000
of events during the World Series of Poker, but then

1465
01:11:25,039 --> 01:11:28,399
we'll do multiple days of the fifty k PPC. You know,

1466
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,640
I don't know, I feel like there's I feel like

1467
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:35,199
we do a ton, like like percentage wise, I mean,

1468
01:11:35,199 --> 01:11:37,880
that's that's it's it's a lot. So you know when

1469
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:44,000
when people say like it's it's underrepresented, I you know, personally,

1470
01:11:44,119 --> 01:11:48,039
don't look at us, like us we're doing the most

1471
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:51,640
with this sort of stuff. And you know, listen, I'll

1472
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:55,439
be flat out honest. It probably doesn't benefit us from

1473
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:58,079
a business perspective to do them because the viewership is

1474
01:11:58,119 --> 01:12:00,520
not there. Like it's just you know, you know, we

1475
01:12:01,039 --> 01:12:05,000
probably should be doing other stuff. But it is also

1476
01:12:05,159 --> 01:12:08,560
partly our responsibility, at least in my opinion, that we

1477
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:12,760
should do mixed games, right, we should also do PLO.

1478
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,279
We should do mixed games, you know, I would say,

1479
01:12:15,279 --> 01:12:17,359
obviously Nolavan hold them is the biggest and the best,

1480
01:12:17,399 --> 01:12:19,000
so we do the most of that. We do the

1481
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,960
second most PLO, and then we do the third most

1482
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,760
mixed games. You know, but I think eight or nine

1483
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,840
straight days of final tables for mixed games leading into

1484
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:31,359
Super High rollable mixed games and then the stuff that

1485
01:12:31,399 --> 01:12:34,079
we do in the summer. You know, I think it's

1486
01:12:34,119 --> 01:12:38,399
certainly well represented when it comes to the Poker Go

1487
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,439
and the PGT offering. All right, last question, and then

1488
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:43,600
we'll move it over to the PGT mixed games. So

1489
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,239
the WSP they're finally doing one hundred k buy in

1490
01:12:46,319 --> 01:12:48,760
PLO event, right, we were the first ones to do

1491
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,560
that with super high rollable PLO. They have now gotten

1492
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:55,319
on board. Do you think that similarly they're going to

1493
01:12:55,399 --> 01:12:59,800
follow with a bigger mixed games event, greater than fifty k.

1494
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:04,079
And the one I guess wrinkle here is that the

1495
01:13:04,119 --> 01:13:07,359
fifty k PPC is such a prestigious event, So like,

1496
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:10,920
do you want to you know, go bigger than that?

1497
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:15,520
Speaker 3: No. I I love the PPC. I think a lot

1498
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:17,760
of people don't. I want to mess with it. I

1499
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:21,119
wouldn't do anything bigger. I think fifty k is perfect.

1500
01:13:22,319 --> 01:13:25,119
Don't touch it, don't go bigger, just keep it the same,

1501
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:26,880
That's all I'm going to say.

1502
01:13:27,319 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I agree. I was just wondering if

1503
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:32,159
maybe that was the thought that they might, you know,

1504
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:33,720
do something.

1505
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:35,640
Speaker 3: If anything, you could up the buy in, but don't

1506
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:39,079
add if you add something bigger to it, I think

1507
01:13:39,119 --> 01:13:41,800
you just kind of kill a lot of that prestige

1508
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:46,079
that that you're trying to to have with the fifty

1509
01:13:46,159 --> 01:13:47,039
k PPC.

1510
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 1: I mean I kind of like, I kind of feel

1511
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:55,039
like they did that with the twenty five k horse,

1512
01:13:55,199 --> 01:13:56,760
like in a weird you know, even though it's on

1513
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:59,640
the other side. It's like it's like, do you have

1514
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:03,279
the fifty k PPC, Like nothing should be near it,

1515
01:14:03,359 --> 01:14:06,640
Like that's just like the the tournament you don't touch. Oh,

1516
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:08,760
I found the stats. By the way, So between PGT

1517
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,439
mixed games and Super High Rollable mixed games, we did

1518
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:17,319
ten days of streaming three four total minutes, which equals

1519
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:21,800
fifty two hours a lot. That's only that's only during

1520
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:24,239
those series, Like that doesn't include I think we did

1521
01:14:24,239 --> 01:14:28,279
what three or four days of PPC streaming during the period.

1522
01:14:29,199 --> 01:14:29,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1523
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then of course, you know, well if somebody

1524
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:33,359
makes a big file table or whatever, we'll mix in

1525
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:37,960
some other mixed games at the WSP. But but yeah,

1526
01:14:38,239 --> 01:14:41,760
a lot a lot of mixed games coming out of

1527
01:14:42,039 --> 01:14:46,439
Poker gro and the PGT. Some might say too much, honestly,

1528
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:50,760
but no, but it's good, all right. And speaking of

1529
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:54,720
Mixed Games. Gino Reim now a two time winner for

1530
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:58,520
the PGT Mixed Games Series. He won the twenty twenty

1531
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:03,119
five version. He had won win two final tables, three cases.

1532
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:07,359
He won three hundred and forty eight five hundred dollars.

1533
01:15:07,399 --> 01:15:11,119
The event that he won was even number four ten

1534
01:15:11,239 --> 01:15:15,079
K eight game. He chopped it evenly money wise with

1535
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:19,520
josh Aria, and then they did this crazy flip fest

1536
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:21,399
at the end where I think they were flipping in plo,

1537
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:24,640
which is nonsense at the end, but another good showing

1538
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:27,520
at a mixed game series, you know, for China Reim.

1539
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,199
I guess the fact that he's now won the PGG

1540
01:15:30,319 --> 01:15:34,039
Mixed Games twice even more so makes me wonder why

1541
01:15:34,079 --> 01:15:38,920
the heck he wasn't in the Super High rollerblels. You know,

1542
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:42,239
what does it say in your opinion about his game,

1543
01:15:42,319 --> 01:15:45,960
his consistency, you know, across all the different variants. Obviously

1544
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:48,640
very very tough group of competitors to go against.

1545
01:15:49,039 --> 01:15:52,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he's just I think he's got an

1546
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:57,199
incredibly underrated career, right, you know, when it comes to

1547
01:15:57,199 --> 01:16:00,000
the PGT, obviously he has those two series titles he played,

1548
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:03,840
He's no limit plays play a low plays mixed games,

1549
01:16:04,359 --> 01:16:08,560
WPT titles. You know, WSP success may not be there,

1550
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:11,439
but you know he does have that final table run.

1551
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:16,840
He I think he's you know, very underrated poker player

1552
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:20,640
and it's good to see him. You know, he won

1553
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:22,880
that series title a couple of seasons ago one one

1554
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:26,279
this season. You know, he's currently high up on the

1555
01:16:26,319 --> 01:16:29,399
PGT leader board and slowly, you know, he's turning his

1556
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:33,520
life around with everything of his past instances, getting healthy,

1557
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:37,680
trying to be a good dad. And you know, I'm

1558
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,279
a big, big fan of China Room.

1559
01:16:41,239 --> 01:16:44,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you mentioned on something I was thinking

1560
01:16:44,119 --> 01:16:46,359
if I should bring up or not, but I'll bring

1561
01:16:46,399 --> 01:16:47,960
it up because you brought it up, you know, talking

1562
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:53,680
about how he's kind of fixed all of his past issues, right,

1563
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:55,399
you know, a lot of it was you heard all

1564
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:57,560
we always heard all the rumors about the money stuff

1565
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,520
and the debts and not paying people back and and

1566
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:04,680
all that sort of stuff. Now it seems like everyone

1567
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:08,119
loves the guy. You know, when we walk into the

1568
01:17:08,159 --> 01:17:11,960
Poker GHO studio, he's by far one of the most popular,

1569
01:17:12,199 --> 01:17:15,319
most liked players in there. And I don't think that

1570
01:17:15,399 --> 01:17:18,000
you would see that if he still had that baggage

1571
01:17:18,039 --> 01:17:21,199
with him. You know. Now, listen, I don't know all

1572
01:17:21,239 --> 01:17:24,880
the details. I don't know if he made everything right

1573
01:17:25,039 --> 01:17:26,800
or if it was just like kind of just let

1574
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,000
go right. So but I'm not going to speak to that.

1575
01:17:29,239 --> 01:17:32,159
But I will say is that if that that baggage

1576
01:17:32,239 --> 01:17:34,560
was still with him, I do think that he probably

1577
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:37,479
wouldn't be as popular, or you would hear kind of

1578
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:40,439
some comments or people you know, would be a little

1579
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,640
bit more standoffish as they would towards him. And what

1580
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:45,760
I'm getting at is like when I'm in the commentary

1581
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:48,840
booth and I'm reading the chats on YouTube, on poker,

1582
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,800
grol whatever, and people are just like they're stuck in

1583
01:17:52,239 --> 01:17:55,600
two thousand and eight, two nine, twenty ten, like that Gino.

1584
01:17:55,920 --> 01:18:01,680
And he has certainly changed, you know, He's certainly trying

1585
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:05,199
at least very hard to become a better person. And

1586
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:07,960
I think that that needs to be said. You know,

1587
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,439
not that I have any reason to be up here

1588
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,239
defending the guy or saying that anything that he did

1589
01:18:13,279 --> 01:18:15,560
in the past was right, because it probably wasn't right,

1590
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:20,039
but he you know, I think people do deserve second chances,

1591
01:18:20,039 --> 01:18:25,039
and they do deserve the the opportunity to right their wrongs,

1592
01:18:25,039 --> 01:18:27,119
to become a better person. And I think Chino is

1593
01:18:27,279 --> 01:18:30,159
certainly evidence of that, you know, everything single day. I

1594
01:18:30,199 --> 01:18:32,479
think he's waking up and just trying to be the

1595
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:34,800
best that he can be. So, you know, if you're

1596
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:36,439
one of those people that I guess hops in the

1597
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:38,640
chat and just kind of says like, you know, no,

1598
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:40,840
Chino's a dirt bag and whatever and this and that,

1599
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:44,680
I mean, I don't think so anymore. Honestly, I don't

1600
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:48,079
so drop it. It's basically, you know what I'm going

1601
01:18:48,119 --> 01:18:48,399
to say.

1602
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,560
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people with Chino is you know,

1603
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:54,119
we've posted some stuff on social and seeing the response

1604
01:18:54,159 --> 01:18:56,560
of him playing big pots where there's a lot of

1605
01:18:56,560 --> 01:19:00,720
table talk and they're showing cards and you know, just

1606
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:03,920
a lot of talking. And that's Chino's style. That's the

1607
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,279
style that we all grew up watching on TV with

1608
01:19:06,359 --> 01:19:10,560
mattis our Helm, with Negrano, and you know, the current

1609
01:19:11,039 --> 01:19:15,840
state of high stakes poker tournaments, you know, we've got

1610
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,079
some robots, We've got the Chidwick's, we got the Peters,

1611
01:19:18,079 --> 01:19:21,920
we got these silent guys that are very gto and

1612
01:19:22,159 --> 01:19:26,760
very you know, stoic, stoic with their actions and mannerism.

1613
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:29,560
Chino is not that guy. Chinos there to have fun.

1614
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:32,399
He's there to enjoy himself. You know, gives a bit

1615
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:34,680
of action, he gambles a little bit, he talks a

1616
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:38,520
little bit, but he's there to have fun, enjoy himself.

1617
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:40,880
And I think people that are playing with him and

1618
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:44,319
are in his presence enjoy his enjoy him being there.

1619
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:48,199
So you know, you can have your own opinion on him.

1620
01:19:48,239 --> 01:19:51,000
I think we see him firsthand. I think we're fans

1621
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:54,840
of Chino, both from him being one of our players,

1622
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:58,720
but also how he you know, communicates with us, right.

1623
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:00,960
I think he's always nice to us, always talks to us,

1624
01:20:01,399 --> 01:20:05,520
always very friendly, very jovial, very fun. So yeah, like

1625
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:07,720
I said, I'm tam Cheno. If you're not team Cheno,

1626
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:11,560
that's okay. I'm not going to judge, but yeah, he's

1627
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,800
definitely a new and changed person.

1628
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 1: So two of the events at this series were record setters. First,

1629
01:20:20,119 --> 01:20:23,479
the event number one, the five K horse event, had

1630
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:26,800
one hundred and thirty entries, and then that record was

1631
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,880
quickly beaten because event number two had one hundred and

1632
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:33,439
forty eight entries. So that's my lead in to saying

1633
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:38,039
that you know, this series continues to perform extremely well

1634
01:20:38,079 --> 01:20:42,840
from a numbers perspective, It's become very sought after by

1635
01:20:43,399 --> 01:20:46,319
the mixed game community, the high stakes mixed game community.

1636
01:20:46,399 --> 01:20:49,000
They love to attend it. They respect it, you know,

1637
01:20:49,079 --> 01:20:52,600
they certainly show up. How proud are you with how

1638
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:56,520
this series has evolved in such a short time. It's

1639
01:20:56,560 --> 01:21:00,319
only been on the PGT schedule for a few seasons now,

1640
01:21:00,359 --> 01:21:04,520
and it is just it is really, really, really well

1641
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:06,079
attended every single year.

1642
01:21:06,399 --> 01:21:10,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this year you mentioned the five K

1643
01:21:10,279 --> 01:21:12,319
Horse one hundred and thirty entrance, the five K A

1644
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:15,720
Game one forty eight. The previous records in both of those,

1645
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,600
respectively were eighty seven and eighty nine. So they didn't

1646
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:20,880
just like break it by a few players, it like

1647
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:24,000
smashed through it. When we walked in that room and

1648
01:21:24,039 --> 01:21:27,399
saw all these people, we were just like, oh God,

1649
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:31,079
were screwed today. And it wasn't just like oh, there's

1650
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,640
ODB and there's Mike Lear and there's Elie Lezer. It

1651
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:38,439
was like a wave of players We had no idea

1652
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:41,000
And for like you, me and Mickey daff not to

1653
01:21:41,039 --> 01:21:44,600
know some of these players is pretty amazing. We know everyone,

1654
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:48,159
So that's a good sign for the mixed game community

1655
01:21:48,199 --> 01:21:51,479
coming up. You know with the World series, that new blood,

1656
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:55,920
new money in that in that player pool, and for us,

1657
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,439
it's great, you know. We it shows people come to

1658
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:00,479
support the series, they want to play in this, they

1659
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:02,520
want to be part of the pgteam mixgame series, they

1660
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:05,880
want to be on Puppetar And it kind of already

1661
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:08,600
says to me, Hey, when you stop planning next year,

1662
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:10,680
I think you need to put a third five k

1663
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:14,560
in there and kind of keep that new blod, that

1664
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:16,720
fresh blood in that room for just at least one

1665
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:17,159
more day.

1666
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 1: What was it, was it seven events at this series?

1667
01:22:20,039 --> 01:22:22,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did seven to fit in that hundred k.

1668
01:22:23,039 --> 01:22:25,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you could probably do what you said,

1669
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:27,840
add another five k kick it up to eight events.

1670
01:22:28,079 --> 01:22:30,720
So there were I mentioned the two opening events were

1671
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:34,680
record setters. Then at the ten k price point you

1672
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:38,159
had event number three set the record for a ten

1673
01:22:38,279 --> 01:22:40,359
k buy in event that was a ten k buying

1674
01:22:40,359 --> 01:22:43,279
horse event had ninety five entries. Then even number four

1675
01:22:43,359 --> 01:22:45,439
ten k E game. You know it didn't beat that

1676
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,600
record that was just said, but it's now the second

1677
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:49,800
biggest ten K mixed event that we had with ninety

1678
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:53,800
two entries. Then the fifteen K fifteen K Dealer's Choice

1679
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,600
set a record for a fifteen K one sixty five entries.

1680
01:22:56,640 --> 01:23:00,560
So I mean, that's absolutely incredible that five of the

1681
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:04,960
seven events at this series are now in the top

1682
01:23:05,039 --> 01:23:08,800
two or you know, in its its price category. Yeah,

1683
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:12,000
so that's just freaking wild, absolutely wild. And then and

1684
01:23:12,039 --> 01:23:13,960
then the twenty five K is right there too, because

1685
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:17,359
the record for a twenty five K mixed for US

1686
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:19,960
is fifty seven. This one had fifty six.

1687
01:23:20,279 --> 01:23:21,640
Speaker 2: Close it was sub closs.

1688
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:25,159
Speaker 3: I really wanted to go you know, four from four

1689
01:23:26,359 --> 01:23:28,960
with breaking records at all price points, but we'll save

1690
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:29,680
that for next year.

1691
01:23:30,159 --> 01:23:33,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, listen, it's it's this series I

1692
01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:36,399
think continues to crush. I definitely think going to just

1693
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:40,720
having one of them, you know, it creates that that urgency,

1694
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:44,800
that exclusivity, that scarcity of it. You know, people know like, okay,

1695
01:23:45,319 --> 01:23:48,039
this is it. You know I have I think the

1696
01:23:48,079 --> 01:23:50,920
mixed game guys, you're they're like, Okay, I have the

1697
01:23:51,039 --> 01:23:54,600
WSP and there's that, but now I have this other thing,

1698
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:58,560
and you know it might even be it might have

1699
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,600
its its positives over the w SB, not not the

1700
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:04,319
entire thing, you know, but you know, it's it's in

1701
01:24:04,359 --> 01:24:08,319
a like a basically a confined, luxurious space where it's

1702
01:24:08,319 --> 01:24:11,239
not you know, within everything else, it's you know, all

1703
01:24:11,359 --> 01:24:13,159
all that sort of stuff that these guys like they

1704
01:24:13,159 --> 01:24:15,560
get the free food vouchers and you know whatever, Like

1705
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:18,079
it's just it's their little like home game for a

1706
01:24:18,119 --> 01:24:20,560
week and a half or whatever, and then they absolutely

1707
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:23,039
love it. And you know, I know you and I

1708
01:24:23,119 --> 01:24:25,880
know that the cash games were going off while this

1709
01:24:26,039 --> 01:24:28,760
was happening. So yeah, I mean, it's just it's a

1710
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:31,279
lot of fun to see this. So I like how

1711
01:24:31,279 --> 01:24:35,840
we've created basically two communities within the community sub communities.

1712
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:37,880
We have the PLO one, right, you have all like

1713
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,760
that group, that little family within the family, and then

1714
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,279
you have the mixed game family within the family. Yeah,

1715
01:24:43,319 --> 01:24:45,720
you know, I really like that. And then you know,

1716
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,399
similar to how I asked you when it comes to

1717
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:52,399
the PLO series, how are you feeling about the schedule?

1718
01:24:53,079 --> 01:24:55,960
Is this something that you're going to change for next time?

1719
01:24:56,439 --> 01:25:00,199
I listen, you had Mory's mix. People were kind of like,

1720
01:25:00,199 --> 01:25:02,720
what the hell is this? But also people loved it.

1721
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:04,359
I think at the end of the.

1722
01:25:04,399 --> 01:25:10,159
Speaker 3: Day, Yeah, look, I think the I think the first

1723
01:25:10,199 --> 01:25:12,840
four events aren't changing, right, five K horse, five K

1724
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:14,560
a game, ten K horse, ten K game.

1725
01:25:15,119 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 1: The only thing that would probably change there is, like

1726
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:18,439
you mentioned, maybe you add another.

1727
01:25:18,199 --> 01:25:20,279
Speaker 3: Five Yeah, and I think the five K we would

1728
01:25:20,279 --> 01:25:25,720
add is probably like, well, no, I want.

1729
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 1: To That's the one everyone keeps talking about.

1730
01:25:28,079 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 3: I think we want to do and a lot of

1731
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:32,479
players agree with me. But we'll keep kind of surveying.

1732
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:35,760
This is is a limited dealer's choice, so a ten

1733
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:39,840
game dealer's choice. You know, we think the twenty one

1734
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:41,520
game mix is a big step, but it's going to

1735
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,960
ten might keep might fit better with the five K

1736
01:25:45,079 --> 01:25:48,039
horse and eight game players. The Mores mix, we wanted

1737
01:25:48,039 --> 01:25:50,800
to try something different. We've been trying things different in

1738
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:54,039
every series, and you know we for this one, we

1739
01:25:54,079 --> 01:25:59,560
wanted it all hot one winner limit game mix. People said,

1740
01:26:00,079 --> 01:26:02,439
why do we have Omaha Hi in it? Yet they

1741
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:07,319
still played it. So seventy entrants amazing turnout.

1742
01:26:07,359 --> 01:26:11,279
Speaker 1: Seveny entries. You're you're keeping Morey's mix got to come back?

1743
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, so I may sure, we may keep it.

1744
01:26:16,359 --> 01:26:18,159
We may it may become Chino's mix.

1745
01:26:18,319 --> 01:26:20,159
Speaker 1: By the way, Mary got second.

1746
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:25,399
Speaker 3: And it's funny because he wouldn't have played unless if

1747
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:27,600
it wasn't named if it was named Tim's Mix, he

1748
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:29,960
wasn't playing, So I kind of forced him to play,

1749
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:33,039
and then he ran that up to a second place finish.

1750
01:26:33,079 --> 01:26:37,239
Speaker 2: So kudos to Maury, but I kind of I was talking.

1751
01:26:37,039 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 3: To Chino, and China's like, you should give me an

1752
01:26:39,039 --> 01:26:42,239
event if I win this series. I was like, it's

1753
01:26:42,279 --> 01:26:47,039
not a bad idea. So Chino's mix is in discussion,

1754
01:26:47,119 --> 01:26:49,800
it's in negotiating, it's in contract. We'll see what kind

1755
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:51,880
of Chino cooks up there. Because it might be too crazy.

1756
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:52,880
It might be too crazy.

1757
01:26:53,199 --> 01:26:55,079
Speaker 1: You can call it Chino's mix. You can kind of

1758
01:26:55,079 --> 01:26:57,159
give him some parameters that he has to work within,

1759
01:26:57,760 --> 01:26:59,560
you know, some different games that he has to like

1760
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:02,520
pick from or whatever, and yeah, we go from there.

1761
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:04,159
I think that that would be cool.

1762
01:27:04,399 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 3: And there was a lot of complain There was a

1763
01:27:06,039 --> 01:27:08,760
lot of you know, they will asked a lot of

1764
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,359
questions about the fifteen K Dealer's choice. You know, why

1765
01:27:11,399 --> 01:27:14,159
are we going from ten to fifteen? And main reason

1766
01:27:14,319 --> 01:27:16,840
was I wanted to. It was a good step up.

1767
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:19,399
You go from all these tens, you know, the five

1768
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:21,239
to five, the three tens you get to all fifteen

1769
01:27:21,239 --> 01:27:22,119
than a twenty five K.

1770
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:24,640
Speaker 2: The other point is the Dealer's Choice.

1771
01:27:25,279 --> 01:27:28,359
Speaker 3: It's it's the smallest player pool, you know, because it's

1772
01:27:28,359 --> 01:27:31,199
the most unique kind of skills set with all these

1773
01:27:31,199 --> 01:27:34,720
other games. So it was kind of that old saying,

1774
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:36,319
you know, if you're going to play ten, you're going

1775
01:27:36,399 --> 01:27:37,920
to play fifteen in a way.

1776
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 2: And it showed that.

1777
01:27:40,159 --> 01:27:41,520
Speaker 1: Shout out Daria Summertinea.

1778
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it showed with the unique entrance, it showed with

1779
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:48,359
its field size that you know, it didn't it didn't

1780
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:50,960
change a lot, you know, it just if anything, it

1781
01:27:51,079 --> 01:27:52,800
just put more money in the prize well for these

1782
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:55,840
guys to win. And we thought, you know, it might

1783
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:57,800
attract a few more people to come out play that

1784
01:27:58,159 --> 01:28:00,319
and then into the twenty five into the hundred. So

1785
01:28:01,119 --> 01:28:05,479
for example, like Jason Mercier or you know, Phil Stenheim,

1786
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:07,840
a gen race that they came for the Dealer's Choice

1787
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:10,319
and the twenty five k then the hunter K.

1788
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:11,680
Speaker 2: So I think it work with that.

1789
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,359
Speaker 3: Don't say we'll change that, it's just what do we

1790
01:28:14,359 --> 01:28:16,199
want to do with more's makes? Do we want to

1791
01:28:16,199 --> 01:28:19,520
add another five k? And that's kind of the only tweaks,

1792
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:20,640
I'll probably think about.

1793
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 1: Making I definitely think you need to continue down the

1794
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:29,680
path of adding another five K and make it to

1795
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:33,840
make this eight events. I think eight events works. One

1796
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:35,640
of the reasons why I say that, and even even

1797
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:37,560
though I know it does lead into the hunter K,

1798
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:41,199
super high Rollerball mixed, is that I want to give

1799
01:28:41,319 --> 01:28:45,359
people enough opportunity to like feel like the person who

1800
01:28:45,399 --> 01:28:48,960
won the leaderboard like actually performed well, which you want

1801
01:28:49,319 --> 01:28:50,760
more volume?

1802
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right enough.

1803
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:54,199
Speaker 1: Now, you obviously can't have twenty five tournaments. It's just

1804
01:28:54,239 --> 01:28:57,479
it's not possible. But so I think the eight works,

1805
01:28:57,920 --> 01:28:59,520
and then I would add it on the front end,

1806
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:01,920
you know, because I think that having like those three

1807
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:05,079
five k's and like kind of you know, having those

1808
01:29:05,119 --> 01:29:07,560
as quote unquote like feeders to the bigger stuff. But

1809
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:11,960
are you even like there's there's barely any, if any

1810
01:29:12,279 --> 01:29:15,960
like five K mixed game tournaments in the world period,

1811
01:29:16,319 --> 01:29:19,359
Like you know at the World Series there's are there

1812
01:29:19,359 --> 01:29:21,079
any five k's or are they just are they just

1813
01:29:21,159 --> 01:29:26,159
like fifteen hundred three K and ten K and above?

1814
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:29,279
Speaker 2: Right, what's the new Toss event? What's that is that

1815
01:29:29,319 --> 01:29:29,680
three K?

1816
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:32,159
Speaker 1: So I think that's three K that replaced the three

1817
01:29:32,239 --> 01:29:33,079
K horse.

1818
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:36,319
Speaker 2: Well okay, so yeah, then there's no real kind of case.

1819
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 1: It's like still that's still something like when it comes

1820
01:29:39,039 --> 01:29:41,039
to mix that like a Daniel mc grodni will show

1821
01:29:41,079 --> 01:29:43,640
up and play or a Nick Schulman play, right, you know,

1822
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:47,600
just because mostly they want to play a pricier mixed game.

1823
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 3: Turns just no. You know, there's a five K eight

1824
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:55,279
game at Resources World n ap T. But outside of that, yeah,

1825
01:29:55,359 --> 01:29:57,640
you know, outside of the World series, you're not really

1826
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:02,239
finding high stakes mixed tournaments, you know, around town.

1827
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:04,359
Speaker 2: It's very far and few in between.

1828
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 3: So you know, we're offering you know, ten days of

1829
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:10,560
kind of unlimited mix game action.

1830
01:30:11,159 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I like it a lot. I think it's great. So, yeah,

1831
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:16,199
find whatever the heck five K you got to put

1832
01:30:16,199 --> 01:30:17,960
in there. I like that idea of like a limited

1833
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:20,760
dealer's choice. I think that's cool. Yeah, and yeah, and

1834
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:23,600
then hopefully, you know, between having three five k's at

1835
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:25,399
the start, you probably get a few more names. I

1836
01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:28,399
would hope that play a couple of the ten k's

1837
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:31,239
and you know that sort of thing. So so yeah,

1838
01:30:31,279 --> 01:30:33,479
that's what that's what I would try and do.

1839
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:35,199
Speaker 3: But we did We did see that too. We know

1840
01:30:35,239 --> 01:30:37,640
we saw tal Aviv. He took second in the eight game.

1841
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:39,800
He played a few more events and we had never

1842
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:43,680
heard of him. Samuel Stonefeld played the entire series and

1843
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:46,840
then won that satellite played the Hunter K So you

1844
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:51,720
did definitely see These five k's kind of give the

1845
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:55,560
players opportunity to play a couple more events. So if

1846
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:57,720
we do ad that third one, you know, who knows

1847
01:30:57,720 --> 01:30:59,760
what the leader would looks like. Maybe they chase a

1848
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:01,960
few events, you know, try and sell a little bit

1849
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:05,760
of action and try and become the next China Raim

1850
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:08,800
and win the PGT Mixed Game Series title next year.

1851
01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:14,079
Speaker 1: Something that I thought would would work great for the

1852
01:31:14,119 --> 01:31:17,119
Mixed Game Series. I just think I think this crowd

1853
01:31:17,319 --> 01:31:19,600
it would work great for it is if we did

1854
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:24,079
a twenty five K esque fantasy league and we did

1855
01:31:24,119 --> 01:31:27,000
the draft the day before, because all these guys are

1856
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:29,800
the guys that do the twenty five K fantasy like you,

1857
01:31:30,039 --> 01:31:32,640
you couldn't Yes, you could do one ahead of USBO,

1858
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:34,920
but like you're not getting Alex Foxen to come on

1859
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:36,439
down to the studio and like draft the team.

1860
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:40,279
Speaker 3: It's been total to me, this is right. I think this.

1861
01:31:40,119 --> 01:31:42,359
Speaker 1: Group is the group that plays the twenty five K.

1862
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:44,680
So like you could do like, you know, a two K,

1863
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:47,920
like a twenty five hundred dollars buying fantasy league ahead

1864
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:49,680
of time. Yeah, and like you could just draft the

1865
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:51,079
night before and like we all hang out in the

1866
01:31:51,079 --> 01:31:53,920
studio and fucking eat pizza and you know, have some

1867
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:56,159
fun with it, right, that would be super fun.

1868
01:31:56,760 --> 01:31:58,560
Speaker 2: I mean you could do it for the plot series too.

1869
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:00,479
Speaker 3: I know something I know when you look at the

1870
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:03,399
twenty five K Fantasy and the teams that the twenty

1871
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:06,680
on teams that Daniel has in that they're pretty much

1872
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:09,680
controlled by mixed game guys. So yeah, it does make

1873
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:12,960
more sense to be aligned with the mixgame series. And

1874
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:16,840
obviously you know, let's Daniel, let's talk about it next year. Well,

1875
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:18,119
let's shy and work this out.

1876
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 1: I think you should you should talk to you should

1877
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:23,560
talk to Odi be and gregorch because they do the

1878
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:27,119
Gregorich League year, which is like that price point.

1879
01:32:27,279 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1880
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:30,079
Speaker 1: And then I think that because because you see it

1881
01:32:30,119 --> 01:32:32,920
every year with the big twenty five K Fantasy, guys

1882
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:35,119
get drafted and they kind of go a little bit harder,

1883
01:32:35,279 --> 01:32:38,359
or they seek backing, or they maybe get some financial

1884
01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:40,159
help from the teams that drafted them, and they play

1885
01:32:40,199 --> 01:32:42,319
a little bit more, so maybe it does a little

1886
01:32:42,359 --> 01:32:44,079
bit better for the numbers then, right.

1887
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:46,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're right.

1888
01:32:46,159 --> 01:32:49,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in twenty five hundred dollars. You know, I'm

1889
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:51,560
in fantasy poker. I'm fucking there.

1890
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:53,159
Speaker 2: Let's go some.

1891
01:32:53,199 --> 01:32:53,760
Speaker 1: I'm sewing.

1892
01:32:54,119 --> 01:32:54,319
Speaker 4: You know.

1893
01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:57,159
Speaker 2: I think that you're not the first one to bring

1894
01:32:57,199 --> 01:32:57,399
it up.

1895
01:32:57,439 --> 01:32:59,640
Speaker 3: It's been brought up a couple of times by but

1896
01:33:00,039 --> 01:33:05,079
players and fans. So hey, this series is what it

1897
01:33:05,319 --> 01:33:07,760
I think it fits the best with and you know,

1898
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:11,680
let's let's try and squeeze us in next year.

1899
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 1: As it pertains to the PGT leaderboard. We got Eric Blair.

1900
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:20,399
That might not be a name you've you've heard in

1901
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:22,960
a long time unless you've obviously been following the PGT,

1902
01:33:23,079 --> 01:33:27,439
because he's been. He's been playing quite sporadically for I

1903
01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:32,520
would say three four five years before this PGT season. Yeah,

1904
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:34,319
he popped in the studio heavy now and then, but

1905
01:33:35,039 --> 01:33:37,880
now he's in there for everything other than mixed, he's

1906
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:41,000
in there. He leads the way with eleven and fifty

1907
01:33:41,079 --> 01:33:47,640
seven points. Blair is doing extremely well this season. Thirteen cashes,

1908
01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:52,479
six final tables, four podium finishes, two wins. He's cash

1909
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:56,800
for one point one seven four million dollars. He's ahead

1910
01:33:56,800 --> 01:34:00,239
of Alex Foxen who's in second, Chino Reems and third.

1911
01:34:00,359 --> 01:34:03,960
Kristen Foxen is in fourth, and then Joey Wiseman is

1912
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:07,159
in fifth. It's also wild to see both Fox's in

1913
01:34:07,239 --> 01:34:12,039
the top five. Freaking crazy. So, I mean, Eric Blair,

1914
01:34:12,119 --> 01:34:14,600
this guy is just he's having a monster season. It

1915
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:16,800
seems like every time he shows up for a series

1916
01:34:17,119 --> 01:34:20,640
in the studio, he's having a bunch of cashes, making

1917
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:22,880
a few final tables. What did he have it? The

1918
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:26,079
USPO was eight events, he cashed six times.

1919
01:34:26,119 --> 01:34:29,279
Speaker 3: He cashed the first five events. So tis yea type

1920
01:34:29,319 --> 01:34:32,199
the record that Roger Johnson held from lost year's USBO

1921
01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:35,359
five consecutive PGT major cashes.

1922
01:34:36,319 --> 01:34:38,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just wild. As I mentioned, you know,

1923
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:41,760
in in recent years he's been playing a bit more sporadically.

1924
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:45,279
I mean, what what can you say about this guy's resurgence?

1925
01:34:45,359 --> 01:34:48,359
I mean, and like in general, I think that this

1926
01:34:48,399 --> 01:34:52,560
says something about the opportunity that the PGT presents. That

1927
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:54,479
if you have the money and you think you have

1928
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:56,840
the chops, like you could come out and be Eric Blair.

1929
01:34:56,880 --> 01:34:57,199
Why not?

1930
01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:00,800
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, like I always want I want these

1931
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:04,159
new faces on top, pushing the narrative of the PGT

1932
01:35:04,319 --> 01:35:06,760
that it's not what the higher roll the world used

1933
01:35:06,760 --> 01:35:09,199
to be. So it's great to see a new name.

1934
01:35:09,279 --> 01:35:12,359
I would say, new face, you know on PGT side

1935
01:35:12,359 --> 01:35:15,199
of things on top. And after he cashed that fifth time,

1936
01:35:15,239 --> 01:35:17,680
I said, hey, congrats, he tied the record.

1937
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 2: You're also first on both leaderboards.

1938
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:22,319
Speaker 3: He goes, I know, like but like not like he's

1939
01:35:22,359 --> 01:35:26,560
like he's he understands everything that's going on. He understands

1940
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:28,840
the leaderboards, he knows where he is on the PGT leaderboard,

1941
01:35:29,039 --> 01:35:32,600
he's reading, he gets it all. He's you know, sharing

1942
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:36,560
all the social posts we're making. I think he's locked

1943
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:41,239
in on being number one in nine months when the

1944
01:35:41,279 --> 01:35:44,520
season wraps up. So I think we're going to see

1945
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:49,319
him at every PGT stop, you know, going forward. Obviously

1946
01:35:49,359 --> 01:35:52,079
he's going to play the World Series. You know, wouldn't

1947
01:35:52,119 --> 01:35:54,720
surprise me at all if we see him in a

1948
01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:57,319
couple of days down in Texas, you know, for the

1949
01:35:57,359 --> 01:35:59,319
Texas Poker Up. I think he's going to chase points.

1950
01:35:59,319 --> 01:36:02,520
I think he's basically the Jeremy Osmas of this season.

1951
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:07,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard both sides of going to Texas. I've

1952
01:36:07,399 --> 01:36:09,239
heard some people like I think I heard Jeremy say

1953
01:36:09,279 --> 01:36:12,720
he's not going to Texas. He's heard to me. I've

1954
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:14,800
heard some other people say, and they are going to Texas.

1955
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:19,039
So you know, we'll see who goes to Texas who doesn't.

1956
01:36:19,159 --> 01:36:21,720
But Okay, as it pertains to Jeremy like and going

1957
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:23,840
to Texas, he puts in enough volume when it comes

1958
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:26,000
to the PGT anyway that like, I don't think he

1959
01:36:26,039 --> 01:36:28,479
needs to go to Texas, for example, but I would

1960
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:32,079
expect people like, you know, I don't know the Sam Laskowitz,

1961
01:36:32,159 --> 01:36:34,439
is Nick Seward, David Coleman's of the world to be

1962
01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:35,039
in Texas.

1963
01:36:35,159 --> 01:36:37,640
Speaker 2: David Coleman's definitely not going He's going on.

1964
01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:40,239
Speaker 1: I know, Like that's the type of group that I like,

1965
01:36:40,279 --> 01:36:42,960
Matthew McEwen like, like the guys who are like kind

1966
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:46,840
of that next group that's like coming up on the PGT,

1967
01:36:47,119 --> 01:36:49,640
Like I would expect them to go there, you know.

1968
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:52,079
Speaker 3: Especially if you think he was going to WVT Choctaw

1969
01:36:52,279 --> 01:36:55,680
that's two days later, you might as well just go Texas.

1970
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:58,760
Parker open and then chocktaw so yeah, like the McEwans

1971
01:36:58,800 --> 01:36:59,399
and like, what.

1972
01:36:59,359 --> 01:37:01,479
Speaker 1: Are you gonna do? Poker's poker, go go play?

1973
01:37:02,039 --> 01:37:04,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, you go? Are you gonna go to South Point

1974
01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:05,199
with man Donnie?

1975
01:37:05,279 --> 01:37:05,359
Speaker 3: Now?

1976
01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:07,399
Speaker 2: Are you gonna go play Texas?

1977
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:08,600
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1978
01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:10,880
Speaker 1: I mean listen, maybe Sam Lasquitz is out obviously because

1979
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:12,479
he just had a baby, But other than that, like

1980
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:15,279
you know, I think those other guys should for sure

1981
01:37:15,359 --> 01:37:19,760
be there. I don't see why not. I mentioned the

1982
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:22,960
two Foxes being in the top four. You know, Alex's second,

1983
01:37:23,319 --> 01:37:28,319
Kristen is fourth, and sixteen points separate them. Kristin was

1984
01:37:28,399 --> 01:37:30,279
up on top of the leaderboard. Alex has had a

1985
01:37:30,359 --> 01:37:33,840
resurgence with the Polo series and then the USPO where

1986
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:36,800
he's now, you know, overtaken her, and he said second. Overall,

1987
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:42,920
it's crazy to me to see how well they're doing.

1988
01:37:43,159 --> 01:37:45,119
Not that we don't know how good they are. We

1989
01:37:45,239 --> 01:37:48,640
certainly know how good both Alex and Kristen are at poker.

1990
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:53,279
They're freaking incredible. Are they for sure Poker's most powerful couple? Ever?

1991
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:56,600
I mean, who, like ever, who is better? Like we

1992
01:37:56,640 --> 01:37:59,319
can say obviously right now, yes, but ever, who's better.

1993
01:38:00,239 --> 01:38:03,159
Speaker 3: Skill or I'm I, oh, well, who's better than them?

1994
01:38:03,399 --> 01:38:05,960
I mean, if we're talking power, I'm I'm sorry, but

1995
01:38:06,039 --> 01:38:07,720
Gentilian Phil Lax still hold that?

1996
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:12,880
Speaker 1: Please mate? Have they played one PGT event?

1997
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:16,199
Speaker 3: Yes, they have, both of them have actually, but no,

1998
01:38:16,239 --> 01:38:19,159
it's if we're doing power like I think they so win.

1999
01:38:19,199 --> 01:38:22,600
Speaker 2: If we're doing a skill, it's the Fox's and the Fox.

2000
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:24,399
Speaker 1: Power power rankings.

2001
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:28,359
Speaker 3: I mean Ryan now, yeah, but I mean Jen and

2002
01:38:28,399 --> 01:38:29,720
Phil aren't that far below.

2003
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:31,560
Speaker 2: It's Gentillian Phil Lack.

2004
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:37,239
Speaker 1: Stop up, stop, You're ridiculous, all right, Nick Shulman, he

2005
01:38:37,319 --> 01:38:41,279
leads the way with most cases. He's got fourteen cashes

2006
01:38:41,319 --> 01:38:43,920
so far, he's got eight final tables, so he's got

2007
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:47,039
the most cashes fourteen eight final tables, is tied with

2008
01:38:47,359 --> 01:38:49,760
Chino Reem also has eight final tables.

2009
01:38:50,359 --> 01:38:51,920
Speaker 3: Is this a.

2010
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:54,439
Speaker 1: Season like we saw from Jeremy Osmas last year where

2011
01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:57,239
Jeremy had I think it was like his twenty first

2012
01:38:57,319 --> 01:39:00,079
cash that he finally won a tournament. It was the

2013
01:39:00,119 --> 01:39:03,920
second during the second PGTPLO series, and I think he

2014
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:06,840
won like the one of the fifteen games or something

2015
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:09,640
like the second to last Evan or whatever. So is

2016
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:12,359
this what we're gonna see from Shulman this year just

2017
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:15,960
just just continuing to get close but never actually like

2018
01:39:16,079 --> 01:39:16,760
get a trophy.

2019
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:21,079
Speaker 3: Well, just for the record, Osm has in twenty twenty

2020
01:39:21,079 --> 01:39:24,239
three cash twenty times, no wins. Twenty twenty four he

2021
01:39:24,279 --> 01:39:27,720
had twenty seven cashes for two wins. Those two wins

2022
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:32,279
were one very late at that PLO series and then

2023
01:39:32,359 --> 01:39:36,560
one I was obviously the PGT Championship. So essentially forty

2024
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:41,199
seven cashes, two wins. I think Nick Sureman is this

2025
01:39:41,279 --> 01:39:44,920
year is gonna be this year? Is Jeremy Osmus. Yeah,

2026
01:39:45,079 --> 01:39:47,720
forteen cashes so far, which is a hell of a lot.

2027
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:52,239
Hasn't you know, got He's got the final three four times,

2028
01:39:53,159 --> 01:39:56,319
you know, hopefully he gets maybe he can win a

2029
01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:59,880
WSB bracelet and you know, being nominee for the whole

2030
01:40:00,199 --> 01:40:03,920
but otherwise, yeah, I definitely see Jeremy Ozma's two point

2031
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:04,359
out here.

2032
01:40:05,439 --> 01:40:07,279
Speaker 1: And then we you know, we already talked about this,

2033
01:40:07,399 --> 01:40:09,640
but Shannon Shor is back up in the top ten,

2034
01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:13,279
sitting ninth. Do you think he has a chance to

2035
01:40:13,319 --> 01:40:15,560
become Player of the Year just with how red hot

2036
01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:18,520
he is? Can like, can someone like can someone like

2037
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:20,600
Shannon Shoor do it? Can someone like Eric Blair do

2038
01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:23,560
it like or is or is like the PGT player

2039
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:26,000
of the year. That's the player that finishes the regular

2040
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:28,720
season with the most points. Is that almost always gonna

2041
01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:32,039
be reserved for an Alex Fox and a Jeremy Osmas,

2042
01:40:32,199 --> 01:40:35,439
Daniel Legron, Steven Chidwick like those guys.

2043
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:39,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, you have to be out of play more events.

2044
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:43,439
And there's so many points in other games, especially at

2045
01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:46,960
the World Series, with the PLO tournaments, with the mixed

2046
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:50,560
game tournaments. So that's where the ozimuses and the the

2047
01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:53,760
Granders of the world have such an advantage. For someone

2048
01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:58,039
like Shannon Shaw to be contending, he's gonna have to

2049
01:40:58,119 --> 01:41:01,079
have continue his start of the year where he's won

2050
01:41:01,159 --> 01:41:05,239
five tournaments in twenty twenty five, for another eight months,

2051
01:41:05,399 --> 01:41:05,600
you know.

2052
01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:08,640
Speaker 2: So it's going to be very tough. It's obviously doable.

2053
01:41:08,640 --> 01:41:10,159
Speaker 3: He could have a deep run in the main event,

2054
01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:13,319
you know, he could win another twenty five K you know,

2055
01:41:13,439 --> 01:41:17,960
the World Series or at the Studio doable. It's it's

2056
01:41:18,039 --> 01:41:23,199
just a real uphill climb for only a no limit

2057
01:41:23,239 --> 01:41:23,800
holding guy.

2058
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:28,000
Speaker 1: Now we're a little bit over. I mean we're about

2059
01:41:28,039 --> 01:41:29,720
a quarter of the season in right, I mean, how

2060
01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:32,039
many how many events do you think we're going to

2061
01:41:32,079 --> 01:41:32,680
have this season?

2062
01:41:33,239 --> 01:41:37,039
Speaker 3: So that was event forty. We kind of averaged that

2063
01:41:37,279 --> 01:41:41,000
one thirty to one fifty. We have eighty six events

2064
01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:44,560
once the World Series ends, and I would expect we,

2065
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:47,560
you know, we're probably going to be maybe a little

2066
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:50,039
bit more than last year where it was one thirty two.

2067
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:53,279
So let's call it one forty. So we've had forty

2068
01:41:53,279 --> 01:41:54,399
of one forty.

2069
01:41:55,079 --> 01:41:59,720
Speaker 1: So we're around a third to a quarter to a

2070
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:03,279
third other percent a quarter to a third of the

2071
01:42:03,279 --> 01:42:06,279
way there. I flubbed that, but you guys get the point.

2072
01:42:06,399 --> 01:42:08,600
You know, we're starting to kind of see the leaderboard

2073
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:11,640
like take shape. Obviously, there's gonna be a lot of

2074
01:42:11,680 --> 01:42:16,079
movement the Texas Poker Open, which is you know, Tim

2075
01:42:16,079 --> 01:42:17,600
and I will hit on in a second, but you know,

2076
01:42:17,640 --> 01:42:19,800
that's obviously coming up, but that's not going to have

2077
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:23,840
like a ton of points that that shift everything. Obviously,

2078
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:25,560
the big thing is the World Series of Poker, which

2079
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:28,479
has thirty events this year. I think that's the most

2080
01:42:28,479 --> 01:42:31,000
ever that qualify for the PGT, right, I think last

2081
01:42:31,039 --> 01:42:33,640
year was twenty nine. Yeah, thirty, So there's gonna be

2082
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:36,520
a lot of movement when it comes to the WSOP.

2083
01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:39,680
But you know how like, how do you think this

2084
01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:42,520
is all is shaping up, this this leaderboard right now,

2085
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:44,880
do you think it's going to kind of hold form

2086
01:42:45,039 --> 01:42:46,640
or you know, what are your thoughts on it?

2087
01:42:47,239 --> 01:42:49,760
Speaker 3: I mean, no, it's not gonna hall. We're going to

2088
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:54,119
say massive movement once that WSP hits. You know, we're

2089
01:42:54,119 --> 01:42:56,680
going to start the WSP with a mister Bownie, the

2090
01:42:56,680 --> 01:43:00,520
Omaha High Love, a Mixed Higher, all the dealers sort.

2091
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:03,520
There's just it's going to be chaos. We're going to

2092
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:06,800
see all kinds of new names and faces, you know,

2093
01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:10,920
enter that top you know, one hundred players that top

2094
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:13,760
forty players. But if we look at the kind of

2095
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:16,239
tour as a whole and we see who's you know,

2096
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:19,680
in this top forty right now, I think it gives

2097
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:23,159
a lot of them a good kind of starting point

2098
01:43:23,239 --> 01:43:24,800
for the rest of the season. Like you look at

2099
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:26,680
Neil Warren, you know we touched on him on Nick

2100
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:29,640
Seward or these guys with four hundred and eighty points,

2101
01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:32,119
they're sitting seventeenth and eighteenth. You know they're going to

2102
01:43:32,199 --> 01:43:34,039
play most of the rest of our series. You know,

2103
01:43:34,079 --> 01:43:36,159
they're going to play the World Series you know, they're

2104
01:43:36,159 --> 01:43:39,960
also about halfway to what they need to qualify for

2105
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:44,439
the championship. So these guys have good starts and if

2106
01:43:44,479 --> 01:43:47,039
they can just you know, keep going, they're going to

2107
01:43:47,079 --> 01:43:49,560
make it. You know, you look at the guys outside

2108
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:51,800
or just on the fringe, you know, justin Saliba or

2109
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:54,920
Steven Song, you know they're going to find points. Josh

2110
01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:56,960
arih he's going to play a bunch of makes and

2111
01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:59,399
p low. He's going to get, you know, push his

2112
01:43:59,439 --> 01:44:01,920
tally up in the World Series. So just looking at

2113
01:44:01,960 --> 01:44:03,640
who has points, I think it's a good sign for

2114
01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:07,239
kind of PGT events once the World Series ends and

2115
01:44:07,319 --> 01:44:10,199
what we're doing in the back half of the year.

2116
01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:13,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so thirty events at the WICIP are going to

2117
01:44:14,079 --> 01:44:17,960
count towards the PGT or they're going to be PGT

2118
01:44:18,039 --> 01:44:22,600
qualifying events. Obviously, everyone that's that's really putting a lot

2119
01:44:22,600 --> 01:44:24,479
of volume, in a lot of focus on the PGT.

2120
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:29,479
They're going for million dollar championship qualification. You know, they

2121
01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:31,640
probably also have some of their eyes or some of

2122
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:34,119
their set sights on the Player of the Year title,

2123
01:44:34,119 --> 01:44:37,359
which comes with a fifty thousand dollars prize, Like do

2124
01:44:37,399 --> 01:44:40,000
you think that do you think the players are basically

2125
01:44:40,039 --> 01:44:46,279
aware of kind of where they're sitting, what the season means,

2126
01:44:46,359 --> 01:44:50,680
the leader board, and then how many events count for

2127
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:54,039
the DOUBSIP. Like one thing that I'll point out, just

2128
01:44:54,079 --> 01:44:57,479
anecdotally is I was in the booth with Jeremy Becker

2129
01:44:57,520 --> 01:45:00,439
and he was like, Wow, thirty events count this year,

2130
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:02,720
Like so he kind of wasn't aware. But you know,

2131
01:45:02,760 --> 01:45:04,239
I mean, poker player is going to poke a player

2132
01:45:04,279 --> 01:45:05,800
at the end of the day. You know, do you

2133
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:08,760
think that these players are aware of it, of everything

2134
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:10,880
the PGT is doing, and then are they going to

2135
01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:15,920
kind of build their was ap schedules around PGT stuff.

2136
01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:17,239
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so.

2137
01:45:17,359 --> 01:45:20,279
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think a lot of them. I

2138
01:45:20,359 --> 01:45:22,640
look have looked, you know, real deeply at the World

2139
01:45:22,640 --> 01:45:25,359
Series schedule yet, and I don't think they're going to

2140
01:45:25,359 --> 01:45:30,479
be picking events because it qualifies for PGT points at

2141
01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:34,920
this point in time. You know, like Jeremy Becker, he's

2142
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:36,920
if there's a ten k, you know, twenty five K

2143
01:45:37,039 --> 01:45:40,319
high roller at the World Series, or there's a eight

2144
01:45:40,399 --> 01:45:43,960
hundred at the win with two million dollar guarantee, you know,

2145
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:45,800
I don't know what he's going to choose, but I

2146
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:47,960
don't think the decision is going to rest on PGD

2147
01:45:48,079 --> 01:45:50,760
points for one or another. But yeah, I think a

2148
01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:54,079
lot of people don't realize that there are thirty events

2149
01:45:54,079 --> 01:45:57,119
that qualify for PGD points. But that's not because they

2150
01:45:57,119 --> 01:46:00,199
don't know that. They're just not looking at the full

2151
01:46:00,319 --> 01:46:02,840
kind of WSP schedule, right. They're kind of creating their

2152
01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:06,600
own schedule and if events falling that they're not you know,

2153
01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:10,119
lining up every event and saying, oh, yeah, I'm gonna

2154
01:46:10,119 --> 01:46:11,880
play these thirty PGT events.

2155
01:46:12,319 --> 01:46:15,359
Speaker 1: But what about somebody like Eric Blair, for example, Like,

2156
01:46:15,399 --> 01:46:17,239
do you think he's gonna be like because I mean,

2157
01:46:17,279 --> 01:46:19,840
you mentioned he's obviously very aware of everything that's going on,

2158
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:24,079
so is he. Maybe it's not that it necessarily influences

2159
01:46:24,359 --> 01:46:26,720
everything with him, but you know, maybe it does where

2160
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:29,760
he's like, Okay, I'm gonna play more ten K plus

2161
01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:30,600
events this year.

2162
01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:34,319
Speaker 3: For him, maybe he maybe might play a few more

2163
01:46:34,479 --> 01:46:37,680
ten k you know plus events, But I think that's

2164
01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:39,920
more because he's had such a good start to the

2165
01:46:40,039 --> 01:46:45,720
year for his kind of bankroll. So yes, he kind

2166
01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:48,800
of yes and no answer there kind of see how

2167
01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:51,640
it kind of all all plays that I guess.

2168
01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:55,359
Speaker 1: And then also during the summer, what's what's going on

2169
01:46:55,359 --> 01:46:56,000
at the studio.

2170
01:46:57,359 --> 01:47:01,239
Speaker 3: We got eleven Aria hi Rollers renamed that, but right

2171
01:47:01,239 --> 01:47:05,800
now eleven Area high Rollers, six PLO all ten k's

2172
01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:09,359
and then five fifteen K no limit hold them high

2173
01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:13,079
rollers overlapping the opening days of the main event, So

2174
01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:16,359
eleven high roller events. Studio is going to be busy

2175
01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:19,239
with some high roller op A tournaments.

2176
01:47:19,439 --> 01:47:22,880
Speaker 1: And those are always pretty well attended. Right The no.

2177
01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:26,960
Speaker 3: Limbit ones, especially two years ago, the PLO ones were crushing.

2178
01:47:27,239 --> 01:47:29,359
Last year is a little bit down, and I think

2179
01:47:29,359 --> 01:47:32,079
that's because there's so much PLO now.

2180
01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:34,079
Speaker 2: So we'll see how these ones go.

2181
01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:37,720
Speaker 3: Basically just giving players an opportunity to pick up points

2182
01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:41,439
on during those when we think is the best part

2183
01:47:41,479 --> 01:47:42,840
of the whole summer schedule.

2184
01:47:44,479 --> 01:47:45,920
Speaker 1: Where do you think the cutoff is going to be

2185
01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:49,840
for the top forty? I think it's what was it

2186
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:50,399
lasting here?

2187
01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:53,840
Speaker 3: So the official top forty last year was nine to

2188
01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:58,039
sixty nine. Stephen Chidwick was fortieth, but with the people

2189
01:47:58,039 --> 01:48:01,000
that didn't qualify cash wise, it dropped down to eight

2190
01:48:01,039 --> 01:48:04,920
eighty one. You know, the fortieth place this year is

2191
01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:07,840
going to be like a little bit under that, we're

2192
01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:11,680
going to say call it low nine hundreds, and then

2193
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:15,920
the actual top forty is going to be the fortieth

2194
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:19,199
player that qualifies. I wouldn't surprise me if he had

2195
01:48:19,279 --> 01:48:23,359
less than eight hundred points, just because of the opt

2196
01:48:23,359 --> 01:48:24,720
outs and stuff like that.

2197
01:48:25,880 --> 01:48:28,720
Speaker 1: I think the cutoff is going to be a thousand. Okay,

2198
01:48:29,119 --> 01:48:31,119
I'm going the other way. Who are some of your

2199
01:48:31,159 --> 01:48:33,560
early surprises on the leaderboard.

2200
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:37,119
Speaker 3: I think we've touched on Eric Blair enough, but definitely

2201
01:48:37,239 --> 01:48:43,439
Eric Blair. I guess another one is, you know, Pad's

2202
01:48:43,479 --> 01:48:46,479
had such a hot start and he's you know, backed

2203
01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:49,000
it up by playing the Mixgame series, playing the PLO series,

2204
01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:51,560
playing the USPO. He's obviously you know if you follow

2205
01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:54,000
him on Instagram, he's heading a Europe for a little

2206
01:48:54,079 --> 01:48:57,159
vacation right now before he comes back. So seeing him

2207
01:48:57,239 --> 01:49:00,720
kind of keep pushing through and chasing the points and

2208
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:02,680
you know, like he like, we just can't touch on

2209
01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:05,199
he has seven hundred and twelve points. You know, he

2210
01:49:05,319 --> 01:49:08,960
might only need another hundred to qualify. Another name there,

2211
01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:11,880
Michael Monchek. You know he's played some events here and there,

2212
01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:16,680
but we've seen him Pogo Cup, play every event Mixed

2213
01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:21,199
Games one hundred K mix came out for USPO. He

2214
01:49:21,239 --> 01:49:24,680
skipped the PLO series, which is a little surprising because

2215
01:49:24,680 --> 01:49:27,359
he does play PLO. But you know, seeing those who

2216
01:49:27,560 --> 01:49:30,399
kind of putting in volume, who have never really put

2217
01:49:30,399 --> 01:49:33,479
in volume on the PGT is great. And then you know,

2218
01:49:33,560 --> 01:49:35,239
bit down the list, you're looking at these guys that

2219
01:49:35,279 --> 01:49:38,600
you know you touched on that group of like the

2220
01:49:38,640 --> 01:49:40,600
Sam Laskowitz So you got Nick c where You've got

2221
01:49:40,640 --> 01:49:44,479
Neil Warren, who's new, you know, Matthew McEwan. These guys

2222
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:47,960
are you know, Jeremy Becker, et cetera. That I just

2223
01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:51,800
seem to be firing everything Land and Tice stuff like that.

2224
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:56,319
So good to see that kind of next batch of

2225
01:49:56,760 --> 01:49:59,640
kind of local pros putting in volume in the studio,

2226
01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:02,279
chase in points, chasing PGG titles and all that kind

2227
01:50:02,319 --> 01:50:02,760
of stuff.

2228
01:50:04,199 --> 01:50:05,600
Speaker 1: Well, Becker's got some work to do.

2229
01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:07,920
Speaker 3: He's having a terrible start of the year.

2230
01:50:08,359 --> 01:50:11,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's getting getting He's getting crushure that. I mean

2231
01:50:11,039 --> 01:50:13,119
that that leads me to my next question. You know,

2232
01:50:13,119 --> 01:50:18,159
who are your early letdowns, Like who's not performing.

2233
01:50:19,680 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 3: Jerry Jeremy Becker has played at least it's five thirteen

2234
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:30,680
twenty one events. He's got one cash for twenty five k,

2235
01:50:30,800 --> 01:50:32,119
so he needs to do a lot of work. He's

2236
01:50:32,119 --> 01:50:35,199
probably bubbled four events, so he needs to kind of

2237
01:50:35,199 --> 01:50:36,079
turn all that round.

2238
01:50:36,520 --> 01:50:39,159
Speaker 1: Jan I will say that he's gotten screwed in a

2239
01:50:39,199 --> 01:50:42,000
lot of spots. Some of it is not his fault.

2240
01:50:42,079 --> 01:50:45,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, compared to last year, Jereymy Osmas is

2241
01:50:45,880 --> 01:50:47,760
not having a great year, but he still has six

2242
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:51,520
cashes at three hundred plus points, so you know, he's

2243
01:50:51,560 --> 01:50:56,840
still he's still getting on base. As they say, I think,

2244
01:50:56,880 --> 01:51:01,680
you know, honestly, they're the two kind of biggest names

2245
01:51:01,680 --> 01:51:05,560
that you know, really stand out to me. Another one,

2246
01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:09,239
I guess, Dylan Lindy normally plays all our series hold

2247
01:51:09,319 --> 01:51:13,960
Them plo and mixed. He's done some traveling, et cetera,

2248
01:51:14,079 --> 01:51:16,600
so he's missed some stuff. He's only got six cashes

2249
01:51:16,600 --> 01:51:21,159
two hundred and fifteen points. Stephen Chidwick another one former

2250
01:51:21,199 --> 01:51:24,640
Player of the Year, three cashers. Obviously he doesn't live

2251
01:51:24,680 --> 01:51:29,720
here anymore, so has some traveling that he does, and

2252
01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:32,039
he obviously goes to play Trent. But you know, one

2253
01:51:32,079 --> 01:51:34,840
hundred and seventy point one hundred and seventy four points

2254
01:51:34,840 --> 01:51:36,720
for him, but you know, he'll probably likely pick up

2255
01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:39,840
a lot during the World Series. So there's a couple

2256
01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:43,520
of like the bigger names, and then you know, Stephen Song,

2257
01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:47,800
Joseph Chug, these guys still kind of you know, Anthony

2258
01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:50,960
who still choosing to do a little bit of traveling

2259
01:51:51,039 --> 01:51:55,439
over playing poker. Probably healthy for their you know, relationships,

2260
01:51:55,439 --> 01:51:58,520
healthy for their mind and help, you know, but you know,

2261
01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:00,560
I want you in the studio playing every event. If

2262
01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:02,199
I'm being selfish.

2263
01:52:02,720 --> 01:52:06,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm surprised a little bit with David Peters.

2264
01:52:08,279 --> 01:52:11,560
You know, I thought by now he we'd be past

2265
01:52:11,680 --> 01:52:14,840
the you know, the new dad stuff and he would

2266
01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:17,000
just be putting in his normal like full volume. And

2267
01:52:17,039 --> 01:52:19,279
we obviously know how good David Peters is. You know,

2268
01:52:19,319 --> 01:52:23,359
he does have six cashes, yes, but no podium finishes

2269
01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:26,479
as of right now, and only two hundred and twenty

2270
01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:30,079
seven points, which you know, like you said, getting on base, Yes,

2271
01:52:30,159 --> 01:52:32,720
but you know he's got to have to turn it

2272
01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:37,439
up a bit. I would add Carrie Katz, he's been

2273
01:52:37,600 --> 01:52:41,960
putting in the volume. Yeah, he has five cases, but

2274
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:44,279
he has yet to make a final table. So you know,

2275
01:52:44,399 --> 01:52:48,359
Carrie's got some work to do as well. And then

2276
01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:52,479
David Coleman, who's probably not put in as much volume

2277
01:52:52,520 --> 01:52:55,359
as he did last season. You know, obviously had that

2278
01:52:56,359 --> 01:53:00,520
scorching hot start last season, but you know, David with Coleman,

2279
01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:03,359
I think needs to start getting to work. And then

2280
01:53:03,399 --> 01:53:05,920
another one I think is Brock Wilson. You know, I

2281
01:53:06,159 --> 01:53:09,560
kind of expect him to maybe not necessarily like be

2282
01:53:09,720 --> 01:53:12,159
in the top forty, but be challenging, you know, be

2283
01:53:12,279 --> 01:53:16,600
within twenty spots of the top forty, and he's he

2284
01:53:16,640 --> 01:53:18,720
hasn't been in the studio like a whole time, and

2285
01:53:18,760 --> 01:53:22,239
then he hasn't been performing of course, so you know,

2286
01:53:22,279 --> 01:53:24,640
we'll see how how that stuff goes. But you know,

2287
01:53:24,680 --> 01:53:26,960
those are kind of the names that that stick out

2288
01:53:27,039 --> 01:53:29,920
to me as you know, I mean, we call him letdowns,

2289
01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:31,960
but it's just you know, lack of performance right now.

2290
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:35,199
But it's obviously a long season. There's a huge chunk

2291
01:53:35,199 --> 01:53:37,439
of stuff, as we outlined during the summer for the

2292
01:53:37,439 --> 01:53:42,479
World Series, so you know, plenty of plenty of movement

2293
01:53:42,640 --> 01:53:44,880
still to be had, points to be grabbed, all that

2294
01:53:44,920 --> 01:53:49,960
sort of stuff. So so we'll see. This is now

2295
01:53:50,039 --> 01:53:54,880
the fifth season of the PGT, you know, has the

2296
01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:57,479
leaderboard race, you know, the race for Player of the

2297
01:53:57,600 --> 01:53:59,840
Year getting into the championship? Has that all kind of

2298
01:54:00,079 --> 01:54:04,119
evolved how you had hoped? You know, where it's it

2299
01:54:04,159 --> 01:54:07,640
really is, Like it's not just a points race. It's

2300
01:54:07,680 --> 01:54:12,880
definitely evolved into you know, a big giant competition within

2301
01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:16,079
the high stakes community. It has a lot of season

2302
01:54:16,119 --> 01:54:19,720
long narratives. The guys you know in Gales, they really

2303
01:54:20,239 --> 01:54:23,520
get behind it, they fight for it. They are for

2304
01:54:23,560 --> 01:54:26,119
the most part pretty aware of all the leader boards.

2305
01:54:26,159 --> 01:54:29,239
So has it evolved to like what you wanted it

2306
01:54:29,279 --> 01:54:31,520
to be or does it still have more to go?

2307
01:54:31,720 --> 01:54:33,520
Is it a head of pace behind pace? Like what's

2308
01:54:33,560 --> 01:54:34,520
your kind of thoughts there?

2309
01:54:34,760 --> 01:54:36,359
Speaker 3: I think it's still has a little bit more to go.

2310
01:54:36,720 --> 01:54:39,359
This year has been coming off last year. I think

2311
01:54:39,399 --> 01:54:41,720
we see a lot of players Okay, I want to

2312
01:54:41,760 --> 01:54:44,000
be part of this, this free roll, this million dollar

2313
01:54:44,039 --> 01:54:47,039
free roll. And we see that really developed in the

2314
01:54:47,079 --> 01:54:51,439
latter stages of the season, especially with PGD Lost Chance.

2315
01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:55,640
So I think that we're always going to trend up

2316
01:54:55,720 --> 01:54:58,640
at the end of the year. Season on season. You know,

2317
01:54:58,720 --> 01:55:00,479
we just kind of touched on texts PO grow up

2318
01:55:00,520 --> 01:55:02,960
in and players. Yeah, I'm not going to go we

2319
01:55:03,079 --> 01:55:06,600
kind of want when we start expanding the tour and

2320
01:55:06,640 --> 01:55:09,600
branching out, we kind of want people to really, you know,

2321
01:55:10,119 --> 01:55:12,960
choose us and go to all our stuffs, play all

2322
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:15,560
our events. Maybe next year we see a bit more

2323
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:18,520
of that and a bit more picking and choosing our

2324
01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:22,319
events over everyone else's. But either way, if you look

2325
01:55:22,359 --> 01:55:27,079
at our numbers, numbers are increasing, I think across the board,

2326
01:55:27,199 --> 01:55:31,000
so everything's kind of on the up. And the points

2327
01:55:31,079 --> 01:55:34,359
race is obviously important. Qualifying for the free roll is important,

2328
01:55:34,399 --> 01:55:37,399
and making that a real event that people want to

2329
01:55:37,399 --> 01:55:39,880
be part of. Like, how do we you know, this year,

2330
01:55:39,920 --> 01:55:42,199
can we make it a bit more special somehow? Like

2331
01:55:42,239 --> 01:55:45,399
what can we do from our side the PGT slash

2332
01:55:45,439 --> 01:55:49,039
Progago just to make it more of a spectacle. You know.

2333
01:55:49,039 --> 01:55:51,359
I think we've talked about that a lot, and hopefully

2334
01:55:51,439 --> 01:55:55,000
this year we can kind of really just turn it up,

2335
01:55:55,439 --> 01:55:59,159
make it an extra special event, and really hammer it

2336
01:55:59,239 --> 01:56:01,319
home that the is the where you want to be.

2337
01:56:01,399 --> 01:56:04,560
Speaker 1: Playing one more letdown while we're at it, red Linn,

2338
01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:05,560
where's he been?

2339
01:56:05,560 --> 01:56:07,279
Speaker 2: He's chilling in China with family.

2340
01:56:08,079 --> 01:56:09,720
Speaker 1: Well that's not where the PGT is.

2341
01:56:09,800 --> 01:56:11,399
Speaker 3: I not, Citie, I.

2342
01:56:11,479 --> 01:56:14,680
Speaker 2: Got to take a break, Okay, not even coming to

2343
01:56:14,720 --> 01:56:15,920
Defendi's title.

2344
01:56:17,600 --> 01:56:21,279
Speaker 1: Unreal unreal. I mean I brought him up to segue

2345
01:56:21,319 --> 01:56:23,840
into the next topic we're going to talk about here. Briefly,

2346
01:56:23,920 --> 01:56:28,199
Texas Poker Open next up on the PGT schedule. So

2347
01:56:28,279 --> 01:56:30,800
the US Poker Open is obviously just wrapped up, the

2348
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:33,000
leaderboards heating up. Tim and I have talked a lot

2349
01:56:33,039 --> 01:56:36,880
about it. We are now shifting focus to Houston. Texas

2350
01:56:36,880 --> 01:56:40,800
Poker Open is back, baby. It features once again a

2351
01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:45,720
two million dollars guaranteed main events. That main event runs

2352
01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:49,880
April twenty third through twenty eighth down at Champions Club.

2353
01:56:50,680 --> 01:56:54,159
There are also four fifty one dollars Nolan Man hold

2354
01:56:54,199 --> 01:56:58,279
Him high rollers, so the series already started. The Texas

2355
01:56:58,279 --> 01:57:01,720
Poker Opan runs the sixteenth April through the twenty ninth,

2356
01:57:02,079 --> 01:57:05,479
a bunch of smaller buying stuff, but then within the

2357
01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:10,399
schedule there are a total of five PGT qualifying events. You, sir,

2358
01:57:10,600 --> 01:57:13,760
will be headed there pretty soon. What are you most

2359
01:57:13,800 --> 01:57:16,119
excited about forgetting back?

2360
01:57:16,199 --> 01:57:19,600
Speaker 3: I am looking forward to eating a steak every day.

2361
01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:20,920
Speaker 1: I knew you were going to say that.

2362
01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:27,199
Speaker 3: The lunch and dinner. I'm not even joking. Food there

2363
01:57:27,319 --> 01:57:29,760
is amazing. I love the food there. I just love

2364
01:57:29,800 --> 01:57:32,520
the atmosphere of that room. I enjoy that the staff

2365
01:57:32,520 --> 01:57:35,399
are great, they're friendly, focus great. I kind of just

2366
01:57:35,439 --> 01:57:39,039
love everything about Hughes. I do also like that, you know,

2367
01:57:39,079 --> 01:57:42,000
we're in the studio it feels sometimes twenty four to seven,

2368
01:57:42,079 --> 01:57:44,680
right and you know, we do have the World Series

2369
01:57:44,720 --> 01:57:46,359
coming up, so that would be a nice change of pace.

2370
01:57:46,399 --> 01:57:49,199
But this is like a nice change of pace before

2371
01:57:49,279 --> 01:57:52,560
the grueling summer, you know, getting out of the studio,

2372
01:57:53,199 --> 01:57:56,399
getting to a different state, seeing some different kind of

2373
01:57:56,399 --> 01:58:00,079
poker and styles down there, kind of what appeals to me.

2374
01:58:00,279 --> 01:58:03,800
And you know, from the more PGT perspective, I think

2375
01:58:03,800 --> 01:58:08,640
it's healthy for the tour to have a variety of

2376
01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:11,800
locations where events are held. Now, you know, we're kind

2377
01:58:11,800 --> 01:58:13,239
of touch on a lot of players aren't going to

2378
01:58:13,239 --> 01:58:15,960
this one or they've got other things on. That's okay,

2379
01:58:16,159 --> 01:58:19,560
that's you know, it happens. But at least we're providing

2380
01:58:19,640 --> 01:58:26,239
the opportunity for our normal players to travel and accumulate points. Also,

2381
01:58:26,520 --> 01:58:28,960
it also helps a tour that we can get some

2382
01:58:29,000 --> 01:58:31,079
people into our system. You know, the winner of the

2383
01:58:31,119 --> 01:58:34,000
main event is probably going to have anywhere between three

2384
01:58:34,039 --> 01:58:36,479
hundred and four hundred points. That's going to put them

2385
01:58:36,520 --> 01:58:38,479
in a pretty good spot heading in the World Series.

2386
01:58:39,000 --> 01:58:43,239
You know you're someone like you know, Jonathan Tamaya last

2387
01:58:43,319 --> 01:58:47,279
year finished a final table with the Texas Prokeer Open

2388
01:58:47,359 --> 01:58:50,079
main event. He obviously won the WSOP main event, then

2389
01:58:50,079 --> 01:58:55,279
he chased that third cash to qualify. So who knows

2390
01:58:55,319 --> 01:58:58,960
where people are going to.

2391
01:58:58,239 --> 01:58:59,960
Speaker 2: Take their poker career this this year?

2392
01:59:00,079 --> 01:59:03,119
Speaker 3: Yea, but in Texas, when I see some people grab

2393
01:59:03,159 --> 01:59:05,920
some points, grab some cash's kind of gives them their

2394
01:59:05,960 --> 01:59:08,680
springboard on the PGT for you know, the rest of

2395
01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:09,199
the season.

2396
01:59:09,600 --> 01:59:11,479
Speaker 1: You know, Jeff Platt will be down there as well.

2397
01:59:11,520 --> 01:59:15,079
He put a lengthy post on Twitter earlier today about it.

2398
01:59:16,560 --> 01:59:18,239
Let me just hit on kind of what he said.

2399
01:59:18,279 --> 01:59:20,800
He said, I'll be at Champions Club Texas soon for

2400
01:59:20,840 --> 01:59:22,840
the Texas Poker Roban. He's so excited. One of the

2401
01:59:22,880 --> 01:59:27,079
best stops of the year. Here's why. Number one nice hotel.

2402
01:59:27,600 --> 01:59:31,640
Every room in the building newly renovated. Can you go downstairs, boom,

2403
01:59:31,720 --> 01:59:35,079
there's a poker room. That's cool. I have yet to

2404
01:59:35,119 --> 01:59:37,439
be there, you can speak to this, but I mean

2405
01:59:37,520 --> 01:59:39,439
the photos and everything look very nice.

2406
01:59:39,520 --> 01:59:39,760
Speaker 2: Great.

2407
01:59:39,800 --> 01:59:43,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously walking right downstairs and just being able to

2408
01:59:43,439 --> 01:59:47,680
jump into a game seems amazing. Great food You've already

2409
01:59:47,760 --> 01:59:50,800
hit on that, but Jeff, you know backs you up here.

2410
01:59:50,920 --> 01:59:53,199
Not just great for a poker room, great food period.

2411
01:59:53,279 --> 01:59:55,720
Chef Connie is simply elite. Some of the best steaks

2412
01:59:55,760 --> 01:59:59,840
you've ever had. In the replies Alex Livingston, best poker

2413
02:00:00,279 --> 02:00:05,119
food I've ever experienced. Buy a mile. So there you go. There.

2414
02:00:05,720 --> 02:00:08,359
Terrific service and hospitality both on and off the fell

2415
02:00:08,439 --> 02:00:11,880
Isaac Trumbo and his team treat players so well. The

2416
02:00:11,920 --> 02:00:14,000
poker staff is filled with some of the faces you'll

2417
02:00:14,039 --> 02:00:16,720
recognize from their time spent at some of the top

2418
02:00:16,800 --> 02:00:20,640
tournaments in Las Vegas. Jeff added, the reason why we're

2419
02:00:20,680 --> 02:00:24,960
talking about it the Poker Go Tour stops here, so

2420
02:00:24,960 --> 02:00:29,760
it'll it ensures you'll be playing top quality tournaments set

2421
02:00:29,800 --> 02:00:33,439
up by the commission himself. Tim Duckworth go shout out

2422
02:00:33,439 --> 02:00:37,199
to you, Tim. Meetup game featuring seventeen times WS Bracelet

2423
02:00:37,239 --> 02:00:40,560
winner Phil Helmyth on Wednesday night, that's April twenty third.

2424
02:00:40,479 --> 02:00:42,760
Speaker 3: And zero time WS tolet Wintering.

2425
02:00:42,800 --> 02:00:44,960
Speaker 1: Tim duck with you're going to be in there too.

2426
02:00:45,039 --> 02:00:48,039
Speaker 3: I know we're going to be in there.

2427
02:00:47,920 --> 02:00:50,039
Speaker 1: You'll be in there too. I believe I saw on

2428
02:00:50,079 --> 02:00:53,479
the flyer one three nolim At hold on for me.

2429
02:00:53,880 --> 02:00:56,079
Speaker 3: So we may sell some action on poker Steake, but

2430
02:00:56,279 --> 02:00:56,960
we'll be in there.

2431
02:00:57,560 --> 02:01:00,359
Speaker 1: There you go, And that starts at seven pm local

2432
02:01:00,399 --> 02:01:04,039
time on Wednesday, the twenty third at Champions. The poker

2433
02:01:04,079 --> 02:01:08,039
action is well, Buffalo Hanks, Brent Hanks, final table, the

2434
02:01:08,039 --> 02:01:12,159
main event last year, enough said, so shots fired there,

2435
02:01:13,159 --> 02:01:15,279
so yeah, and then we're gonna do live streaming of

2436
02:01:15,399 --> 02:01:18,399
the Cash Festival, and then we'll also have coverage of

2437
02:01:18,560 --> 02:01:22,279
the Texas Poker Open main events starting with day one.

2438
02:01:22,359 --> 02:01:25,920
B on that one. So those are the nuggets from

2439
02:01:26,079 --> 02:01:30,760
Jeff's post earlier today. So he's he's amped up. I

2440
02:01:30,760 --> 02:01:33,239
know you're ready to get down there and go. So

2441
02:01:34,359 --> 02:01:36,920
I'll be jealous, but I'll be sweating from afar. Give

2442
02:01:37,000 --> 02:01:40,079
us some predictions. Who do you do you do you

2443
02:01:40,079 --> 02:01:42,319
know any names that are going there? Who do you

2444
02:01:42,359 --> 02:01:44,760
think is gonna do well? Like? What what do you

2445
02:01:44,760 --> 02:01:48,600
think the numbers draw for the high roller events? You

2446
02:01:48,720 --> 02:01:50,079
got seven seventy three?

2447
02:01:50,439 --> 02:01:54,760
Speaker 3: Was it seven thirty three? I think it was whatever?

2448
02:01:54,840 --> 02:01:55,119
Speaker 1: Close?

2449
02:01:55,600 --> 02:01:57,520
Speaker 3: Well, look you know we have touched on it is

2450
02:01:57,560 --> 02:02:00,640
top we have some players that you know where they're

2451
02:02:00,680 --> 02:02:04,520
last year not coming for variety of reasons. So that

2452
02:02:04,640 --> 02:02:06,840
makes us a little worried. If we're being honest, you know,

2453
02:02:06,880 --> 02:02:08,920
we've got a big guarantee. Got to try and hit that.

2454
02:02:09,680 --> 02:02:12,720
So that's the first goal, just get to just just

2455
02:02:12,880 --> 02:02:15,880
hit that two million dollar prize pull. But I you know,

2456
02:02:15,920 --> 02:02:18,800
I honestly just want to see a good field, a

2457
02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:23,199
lot of locals, a lot of satellite winners getting in there,

2458
02:02:23,199 --> 02:02:25,760
making day two making a run. I think that's really

2459
02:02:25,800 --> 02:02:30,640
good and you know, healthy for the Houston playpool. But

2460
02:02:31,359 --> 02:02:33,560
I think it's Champions Club. You know, we've taken a

2461
02:02:33,600 --> 02:02:36,359
tour there. Now. This is our third tour stop. You know,

2462
02:02:36,680 --> 02:02:38,720
obviously we did this in April last year. We have

2463
02:02:38,800 --> 02:02:42,479
the Texas Peeler roundup in November. You know, this our

2464
02:02:42,520 --> 02:02:46,039
third time. They're Champions is really kind of stamping their

2465
02:02:46,039 --> 02:02:49,520
foot on being the kind of premiere spot in Houston

2466
02:02:50,800 --> 02:02:55,039
for poker and the people around them, the other poker

2467
02:02:55,119 --> 02:02:57,640
rooms in the area. Kind of a kind of yep,

2468
02:02:57,720 --> 02:03:00,279
we understand that we'll kind of operate around yous, so

2469
02:03:00,720 --> 02:03:03,640
hopefully we see an incredible turnout, you know, of all

2470
02:03:03,680 --> 02:03:07,920
locals and hopefully the players kind of enjoy themselves. That's

2471
02:03:07,920 --> 02:03:10,119
what kind of matters. We want to put on a

2472
02:03:10,119 --> 02:03:11,960
good series, put on a good show. We've got the

2473
02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:14,960
cash game streams, we have the meetup game, we have

2474
02:03:15,079 --> 02:03:19,159
the main event streams. So it's a good two weeks

2475
02:03:19,199 --> 02:03:21,920
of poker in Texas. Sweet.

2476
02:03:22,439 --> 02:03:25,720
Speaker 1: As I mentioned, there will be coverage live streaming coverage

2477
02:03:25,760 --> 02:03:28,560
on PokerGO dot com. You guys can check out pokerg

2478
02:03:28,680 --> 02:03:32,439
dot com slash schedule for the schedule details there. Tim's

2479
02:03:32,479 --> 02:03:34,600
gonna be handling a bunch of the live updates on

2480
02:03:34,760 --> 02:03:38,199
PGT dot com, so you guys can follow along there

2481
02:03:38,359 --> 02:03:40,479
as well. I don't think we got anything else to

2482
02:03:40,479 --> 02:03:42,239
talk about. We've talked about a whole bunch of stuff.

2483
02:03:42,279 --> 02:03:46,720
Got everyone caught up. Two hour show. Let's rock and roll, baby, Yeah,

2484
02:03:47,520 --> 02:03:48,640
you got anything else for us?

2485
02:03:49,479 --> 02:03:52,319
Speaker 3: I guess we'll talk off to Texas, all right, cool,

2486
02:03:52,319 --> 02:03:55,920
I might try and play the main event. I'm gonna okay,

2487
02:03:56,680 --> 02:03:58,960
let me ask you, okay, ready, I was gonna get

2488
02:03:58,960 --> 02:03:59,800
their Sunday night.

2489
02:04:00,439 --> 02:04:02,479
Speaker 2: There's one hundred, huh.

2490
02:04:03,000 --> 02:04:03,279
Speaker 3: I said.

2491
02:04:03,319 --> 02:04:05,159
Speaker 1: The answer is yes, play.

2492
02:04:04,880 --> 02:04:07,119
Speaker 3: No, there's one hundred. Yeah, there's one hundred and fifty

2493
02:04:07,119 --> 02:04:08,840
dollars all in all fault time. I'm not gonna play

2494
02:04:08,840 --> 02:04:11,319
that the next I was gonna play a three hundred

2495
02:04:11,319 --> 02:04:15,479
dollars something one day. Should I just play the three

2496
02:04:15,520 --> 02:04:17,239
hundred dollars satellite instead?

2497
02:04:17,680 --> 02:04:20,720
Speaker 2: Of course, I just try and get in. Yeah. Good,

2498
02:04:20,840 --> 02:04:22,039
Jeff and Brent can cash.

2499
02:04:22,199 --> 02:04:23,359
Speaker 3: Surely I have a chance.

2500
02:04:24,319 --> 02:04:25,239
Speaker 1: Has Jeff cashed?

2501
02:04:25,279 --> 02:04:26,079
Speaker 3: He cashed? Yeah?

2502
02:04:26,079 --> 02:04:26,840
Speaker 2: They both cashed?

2503
02:04:27,239 --> 02:04:30,640
Speaker 1: Well, I know, I know brand obviously cash, yes, whatever,

2504
02:04:30,680 --> 02:04:34,560
but I didn't. I couldn't remember if Jeff did or not. Yeah,

2505
02:04:34,640 --> 02:04:35,479
I mean get in there.

2506
02:04:36,319 --> 02:04:37,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna try.

2507
02:04:38,600 --> 02:04:41,680
Speaker 1: All right, cool, all right, Well, long show, but we

2508
02:04:41,720 --> 02:04:44,000
had to get everyone caught up and everything. Again. Apologies

2509
02:04:44,039 --> 02:04:48,439
for the quote unquote break that we took.

2510
02:04:49,119 --> 02:04:51,159
Speaker 2: Remember those code words, go into them.

2511
02:04:51,319 --> 02:04:53,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember those code words. They were there were

2512
02:04:53,359 --> 02:04:55,439
somewhere in the middle of this episode. Go find them

2513
02:04:55,479 --> 02:04:58,319
and enter them for the promotion so you can have

2514
02:04:58,399 --> 02:05:03,359
shots to win a seat to the PGT million dollars Championship.

2515
02:05:03,600 --> 02:05:05,399
All right, that's gonna do it for us. My name

2516
02:05:05,479 --> 02:05:07,880
is Donna Peters, his name is Tim Duckworth, and we

2517
02:05:07,920 --> 02:05:09,960
will talk to you guys next time.

2518
02:05:10,239 --> 02:05:18,640
Speaker 3: So yeah, express