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Speaker 3: We missed you.
Speaker 5: I miss you, guys, man, I really do. No matter
Speaker 5: what you hear out there, I do miss you, guys.
Speaker 5: I don't hear any I choose to be no attention
Speaker 5: to the outside noise. Now, I'm glad to be here
Speaker 5: Friday afternoon, man, getting ready for a weekend, you.
Speaker 3: Hear, And it's most likely you'll be here most Fridays.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna try to be here on every Friday.
Speaker 3: Don't tell your brothers.
Speaker 6: Yeah, my other.
Speaker 5: Jobs, you know, but kind of trying to keep my
Speaker 5: calendar clear as much as I can to be able
Speaker 5: to come in on Fridays and you know, get us
Speaker 5: ready for a weekend.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this weekend they don't come any bigger than
Speaker 4: in basketball then this one, outside of maybe the Duke game,
Speaker 4: you know how that went.
Speaker 6: Well, And that was a nonconference game.
Speaker 5: This is way bigger, right, Yeah, if you beat Duke,
Speaker 5: it's all it's all cool.
Speaker 6: We saw what happened last year.
Speaker 5: They beat him and then but you know this time,
Speaker 5: you know this is a this is a huge game, right,
Speaker 5: It's got a lot of national attention. It's at noon
Speaker 5: our time, two o'clock Eastern time, means in the middle
Speaker 5: of the day. It's made a lot of conversation about it.
Speaker 5: It means a lot. You know, whoever wins this game
Speaker 5: has got in inside track to the to the league championship.
Speaker 4: Right right, which of course you never would have thought
Speaker 4: that with Arizona a couple of months ago. Maybe you're
Speaker 4: thinking maybe fifth, lucky, maybe fourth, But now they have
Speaker 4: a chance to win it, win it all with let
Speaker 4: me tell you this, Jay, and you you would agree
Speaker 4: the Gauntlet has yet to happen, and it begins now,
Speaker 4: right right, Well.
Speaker 3: Maybe it begin Tuesday. Well yeah, but you.
Speaker 5: Know it's funny because you know the people that I
Speaker 5: that I talked to you, and you know you know who.
Speaker 3: The suspects are. Now I want you to change those people.
Speaker 5: You know, people are upset to got beat for Tuesday night,
Speaker 5: And I'm like, why are we upset.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, they played like they played terrible.
Speaker 5: They should well, they played bad because the other team
Speaker 5: made them play bad.
Speaker 3: They lost a road game.
Speaker 5: Think about it, they played you know, they did a
Speaker 5: bunch of dumb things. If they did, as I put it,
Speaker 5: they did about seventy dumb things, and if they had
Speaker 5: done sixty seven dumb things, they win the game.
Speaker 6: I said.
Speaker 5: On top of it, Okay, just think back four and
Speaker 5: five coming out of conference play. If I said, okay,
Speaker 5: they're going to be eleven and two in the conference,
Speaker 5: do you sign up for that? And I'm like and
Speaker 5: they're like, yeah, I said, you would have signed up
Speaker 5: for nine and four, nine and three. You know, they're
Speaker 5: eleven and two in the league and they're playing Houston
Speaker 5: this weekend for to take the lead in the conference.
Speaker 3: I said, what are you upset about?
Speaker 4: First of all, those guys aren't realistic, and I'm surprised aren't.
Speaker 4: Oh no, they're not. That was not a surprise that
Speaker 4: they lost. Both teams played horribly, but actually both teams
Speaker 4: shot poorly. Uh, Kansas State was lucky to win the game.
Speaker 4: Arizona had a chance, but they could have easily lost
Speaker 4: the game, and they did.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, full disclosure. Okay, I was pissed off Tuesday
Speaker 5: night at the end of the game too, because because
Speaker 5: I thought, just make about three fewer mistakes and you
Speaker 5: win this game.
Speaker 4: Well, right, Kansas is probably saying Kansas State is probably
Speaker 4: saying the same thing. H you go one for nineteen Yeah,
Speaker 4: well for nineteen, two for twenty two.
Speaker 5: Make one three pointer? Right, well, two three pointers and
Speaker 5: you win the game.
Speaker 4: Oh hit more for Kansas States. I hit some tree
Speaker 4: throws and you're not even in the or worried about or.
Speaker 5: Don't let that little guy with the headband go off
Speaker 5: for twenty four?
Speaker 6: When is when is it? Coverage is ten? You know?
Speaker 5: And then I said, I said exactly what I just
Speaker 5: said to myself.
Speaker 3: Wait, why are you pissed off.
Speaker 5: When they're you know, they're in second place in the
Speaker 5: league and there's a huge game coming up this week.
Speaker 6: Yeah, with a chance to get up there.
Speaker 4: It's understandable from the from the crowd that you're with,
Speaker 4: and uh, they had an opportunity. They're right there. It
Speaker 4: didn't happen, and you're kind of not resting on you.
Speaker 4: You hope that it continues. Yeah, we've seen this game
Speaker 4: un a thousand You've seen in a thousand games, a
Speaker 4: thousand thousand times. I have to now here comes the
Speaker 4: funny thing that was little Basketball. Lose that game Saturday,
Speaker 4: turn around. Play a team that you don't shouldn't beat
Speaker 4: at home, but.
Speaker 5: You probably will be but you could and you and
Speaker 5: you have you beat them pretty good here, you know.
Speaker 5: So at the bottom line, Steve, and this is you know,
Speaker 5: goes back to when we found out that they were
Speaker 5: for sure going into the Big twelve. There's a lot
Speaker 5: of games, yeah, that aren't gimmes unlike the PAC twelve. Sure, sure,
Speaker 5: you know, think about think about how much fun we're
Speaker 5: having at Michale this year. Yeah, how many good how
Speaker 5: many good Pac twelve home games were there each year?
Speaker 3: Three?
Speaker 6: One, maybe two?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, if Oregon was good and if U
Speaker 5: see La was good, and then maybe one other team
Speaker 5: was good occasionally, but generally of two really good games.
Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, those didn't really
Speaker 3: prepare you for what was ahead.
Speaker 5: Right and here, every game, yeah is a fun game. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's a great game game, even.
Speaker 4: From the teams that look Texas Tech, who would issue
Speaker 4: almost beat Texas Tech and Texas Tate came here, gave
Speaker 4: Arizona a hell of a game, and it was a
Speaker 4: fun game to watch, probably the fun most fun game
Speaker 4: until Iowa State or you know whatever, all those games. So,
Speaker 4: but now moving forward, they play Houston tomorrow. Uh, let
Speaker 4: me just kind of go through the schedule before we
Speaker 4: start the day. Tommy spoke today. We might have some
Speaker 4: some of his stuff from his press conference. Later at
Speaker 4: the three seventeen, three eighteen hour, we're gonna have Joseph
Speaker 4: Dwarte from the Houston Chronicle. He covers the Houston Cougars
Speaker 4: for that paper. And then at three four seventeen, we're
Speaker 4: gonna have our buddy friand Forschila, who was on the
Speaker 4: show about three weeks ago talking about the game. He's
Speaker 4: in town to do the game, and he's the big
Speaker 4: Big twelve kind of like he follows it. He follows it,
Speaker 4: he covers it, and he's here for the big game.
Speaker 4: And I you know, he'll give us a national perspective. Right,
Speaker 4: what do people think of Arizona.
Speaker 5: I still think that they're undervalued right now because of
Speaker 5: that four and five.
Speaker 4: I totally agree with you. They well going into the game.
Speaker 4: And Henry might may may not agree with this, but
Speaker 4: they are what thirteen and one? Yeah, conservative the hottest
Speaker 4: team in the country at the time. Setback as the setback, right, yeah,
Speaker 4: but still what thirteen and two in the least thirteen.
Speaker 5: So we'll see, Yeah, I mean, one of the hottest
Speaker 5: teams in the country. Still it's Arizona. You're thirteen and one,
Speaker 5: you had won thirteen of your last fourteen games, and
Speaker 5: you still couldn't get into the top ten in a
Speaker 5: great conference.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, they moved up. The funny thing, Lonardi has
Speaker 3: him a three. Right.
Speaker 4: I would have never thought them being the three, maybe
Speaker 4: four or five tops. But guess what, there's still a
Speaker 4: month left in this crazy, crazy tough schedule.
Speaker 3: Well there is.
Speaker 5: And looking at the schedule they got as you mentioned,
Speaker 5: I mean talk about they got to jump on the
Speaker 5: pointy probably going to jump on a plane tomorrow, right
Speaker 5: and go to go to uh Waco for Baylor today Saturday.
Speaker 5: Maybe they'll maybe they'll fly in flying Sunday. You know,
Speaker 5: they got Bay They got Baylor on Monday, which is
Speaker 5: gonna be a that's gonna be a war because Baylor's
Speaker 5: pissed off it.
Speaker 6: They came here and got there.
Speaker 3: There's tough. Right.
Speaker 5: Then you got b Yu coming here. Okay, right, you
Speaker 5: know you think you should win that because of how
Speaker 5: you handled them over there. You got Utah coming here,
Speaker 5: all right, you should take that.
Speaker 3: Let's go, let's go three, let's go two and one
Speaker 3: or three, you know, yeah.
Speaker 6: Then you got to go.
Speaker 3: Then you've got to go to Iowa State. Okay, folks,
Speaker 3: if you count that as.
Speaker 5: A loss right now, yes, and if they get a
Speaker 5: win out of that, great, but be ready, be ready.
Speaker 3: For them to lose that game. Sure, and it may
Speaker 3: not even be pretty. Right.
Speaker 6: Then they got a s U gear and then they
Speaker 6: go to Kansas.
Speaker 4: So I think that's five and two, four and two, uh,
Speaker 4: could be four and three. Yeah, with those it's tough.
Speaker 4: And then and then you have the pack then you
Speaker 4: have to be.
Speaker 5: Then you have a big tough turn. But look, you
Speaker 5: know again you mentioned what a SU did. The Texas
Speaker 5: Tech they took, they took them to overtime. Now you knew,
Speaker 5: you know, the people I was talking to on our thread,
Speaker 5: we knew they were gonna blow the game. We knew,
Speaker 5: and she was going to lose that game. There was
Speaker 5: no doubt. It was just a matter of you know,
Speaker 5: when when right. But you know, a sun, don't underestimate Asu.
Speaker 5: They've got guys who if they all play together, they'll
Speaker 5: play well.
Speaker 6: At the same time, they can be too.
Speaker 4: In fact, they gave Arizona a tough run for like
Speaker 4: thirty eight minutes until they didn't you, until they umploded.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so there's a lot left, there's a lot left
Speaker 5: to go, a lot of season left, and there's some
Speaker 5: losses out there left.
Speaker 4: See here's the issue. And you're a fan, and I'm
Speaker 4: gonna get on you guys who are fans. So they
Speaker 4: go four and five, people were, oh the world is ending, right,
Speaker 4: Oh the world is ending. Week suck and we're not
Speaker 4: even gonna make the tournament. Then they go thirteen and one, Oh,
Speaker 4: we're the stuff. And then if I could cuss, I would.
Speaker 4: We're the stuff because Arizona fans can't handle prosperity because
Speaker 4: either there's total misery or no one's going to beat us.
Speaker 3: Well, they got to the point where they think they
Speaker 3: should never lose.
Speaker 4: Well, that's and that's the problem. Thank you for my point,
Speaker 4: because that's what that's how they feel. They should have
Speaker 4: never lost to Kansas State because well, we're Arizona and
Speaker 4: we you know, have we done this?
Speaker 3: Were better than them? Well, you weren't.
Speaker 6: You know, all of.
Speaker 5: These teams again, shape shake away, all those Pac twelve cobwebs.
Speaker 3: You know, that's what they're thinking.
Speaker 5: In any given season, there were maybe two teams who
Speaker 5: could beat Arizona that if Arizona lost, it's because Arizona
Speaker 5: played or and we saw that and the other team
Speaker 5: played great.
Speaker 3: We saw that, and there were some of those.
Speaker 5: But in terms of two teams that were kind of
Speaker 5: in Arizona's neighborhood, there were only.
Speaker 3: A couple each year. There's like eight of them in
Speaker 3: the Big twelve. Especially, the only.
Speaker 5: Ones that really aren't are the three that came from
Speaker 5: the Pac twelve and then maybe Cincinnati. But Cincinnati has
Speaker 5: been ranked this year. TCU is not horrible, you know,
Speaker 5: b YU is not horrible. So there's a bunch of
Speaker 5: really good teams that you have to face up again.
Speaker 6: You know, West virgin good.
Speaker 4: I mean, they might make the tournament. Yeah, so we'll
Speaker 4: see what happens. It all begins tomorrow for the rest
Speaker 4: of these.
Speaker 6: I'm excited, Steve. This has been fun.
Speaker 5: You know, this has been really fun, and we don't
Speaker 5: get to see Kansas here. Yeah, but even you know,
Speaker 5: going through the football season and you know, playing all
Speaker 5: these different teams, the football programs in the Big twelve
Speaker 5: don't get you.
Speaker 3: Jumping up and done right. You know, they're kind of
Speaker 3: they're good.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying they're not any good, but they don't
Speaker 5: light you up in football.
Speaker 3: You got into this league for. But you get into basketball.
Speaker 5: And when you've got Kansas, Baylor, Houston, Texas Tech, Kansas State,
Speaker 5: even West Virginia this year. You know, Oklahoma State, which
Speaker 5: isn't great this year, but they've been good in the past.
Speaker 5: There are so many teams that every game is fun
Speaker 5: because you just don't know.
Speaker 4: So let me talk to you. We had Dave silver
Speaker 4: in yesterday. We had a call about dolor Or, so
Speaker 4: I will talk about some of that with Tommy. Let
Speaker 4: me say this to you, Okay, so we we nor
Speaker 4: only have like a seven to eight man rotation, right,
Speaker 4: he's no more and maybe if you're pushing in with Martinez. Okay,
Speaker 4: so you're playing with with I said yesterday with almost
Speaker 4: a hand behind.
Speaker 5: No, Well it's eight with with kJ kJ Henry and
Speaker 5: townsend back.
Speaker 4: So you're playing with them. But delarso you're not getting
Speaker 4: very much from Townson. You're not getting much from him.
Speaker 4: You're getting sporadic play from kleb Kg at times, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So you're playing with one hand
Speaker 4: behind your back on a couple of dudes, and they're
Speaker 4: still doing this right. The problem is as we get
Speaker 4: to the nitty gritty, you can't do that anymore. You
Speaker 4: can't afford that anymore. And the problem is they've done
Speaker 4: it through twenty games. How is it going to change?
Speaker 5: I don't know, because you look at this and you
Speaker 5: think about the grind once once the once the conference
Speaker 5: tournament starts, and then the pressure and the grind of
Speaker 5: the NCAA tournament, and you don't see a team that
Speaker 5: has the pieces to go, oh, you know, really far.
Speaker 5: You know people who have asked me, he said, how
Speaker 5: far do you think to get in the nc double A. Well,
Speaker 5: first of all, it's going to depend on how they
Speaker 5: look coming out of the out of the out of
Speaker 5: the conference tournament, and then if they don't have any
Speaker 5: more injuries and stuff like that. I said, But to
Speaker 5: me today, they're a sweet sixteen team. I think they
Speaker 5: should win the first.
Speaker 4: Team at the minimum. The thing is who knows who
Speaker 4: they're going to show up.
Speaker 5: But right, you know, do you run up in the
Speaker 5: second round, do you're not up against somebody that has
Speaker 5: something that you don't and they beat you, or do
Speaker 5: you get a run where you just got you know,
Speaker 5: maybe a high seed gets beat and now you're playing
Speaker 5: fifteen in the second round instead of I mean in
Speaker 5: the third round or whatever.
Speaker 3: Right, so it all depends. But if you go just
Speaker 3: you know how things should go with.
Speaker 5: Seeds and stuff like that, I think there's still no
Speaker 5: better than a sweet sixteen team right now. I just
Speaker 5: don't see that the level in terms of good because
Speaker 5: we're going to go up to this question in terms
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Speaker 4: Blah, how good are they? Out of ten? There's seven
Speaker 4: and half. I'm at seven. I'm not sold yet. And
Speaker 4: I and people ask me how good are they? I said,
Speaker 4: they're not They're not that great. What do you mean
Speaker 4: look at them? I said, there's still issues.
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Speaker 5: I mean, you we keep seeing Tobyo Waka doing all
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Speaker 5: he can't he runs up against it in a matchup
Speaker 5: that he can't do the things he's been doing.
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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, maybe maybe not right, maybe not.
Speaker 3: No, we gotta go.
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Speaker 1: the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to the ball here on Fox Sports
Speaker 3: fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. In with me today is
Speaker 3: Jay Gonzales. Now on the phone.
Speaker 4: We have Joseph Dwarte from the Houston Critical Covers The
Speaker 4: Cougar's Joseph.
Speaker 3: How you doing good?
Speaker 2: Steve? How you doing?
Speaker 3: We're doing? Okay?
Speaker 4: It's Rivera, Gonzales and Dwarte. Like an infield infield for
Speaker 4: the Astros.
Speaker 15: I know that's like a six four three.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'd be out six four three. Right, yeah, thank hey,
Speaker 3: good to hear from you.
Speaker 15: Men.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you first, because I think it's an
Speaker 4: obvious question that we probably know the answer to.
Speaker 3: How is it covering Kelvin?
Speaker 15: Oh, it's a it's a blast. It's so good that
Speaker 15: after eleven years, I'm coming out with the book in
Speaker 15: a few months. And I know you and I have.
Speaker 16: Kind of briefly talked about.
Speaker 15: It's just he's such a quote machine that I just said,
Speaker 15: I've been compiling quote for over a decade of his
Speaker 15: best lines and I'm putting a kind of a fun
Speaker 15: book together. But that that's sort of what what he is.
Speaker 15: He's he's just a great mind and and and you know,
Speaker 15: future Hall of Famer to cover and it's it's never
Speaker 15: a dull moment. And of course you know they they
Speaker 15: don't lose very often, and they went a lot and uh,
Speaker 15: this year has been no different.
Speaker 5: Well, when you when you first met him, what was
Speaker 5: your first impression, because you know, I had a chance
Speaker 5: to meet him when you first got the job at
Speaker 5: Washington State that that dates me. But he he was
Speaker 5: the nicest guy from the moment I met him, and
Speaker 5: stayed that way, you know, every time I ever ate
Speaker 5: into him.
Speaker 4: And if I could also answer that what he bought
Speaker 4: his team here too. He was the most popular opposing
Speaker 4: coach from opposing teams in the Pac twelve.
Speaker 15: Yeah, and you know, you know I didn't I didn't
Speaker 15: really have any idea maybe what what what he was like.
Speaker 15: You know, I think it's a little different because he
Speaker 15: was coming off of five years out of the game
Speaker 15: because of the the NCAA, the show cause penalty that
Speaker 15: he had to serve, so uh, you know, he kind
Speaker 15: of he kind of took the the uh getting back
Speaker 15: into the college game as a fresh start. So maybe
Speaker 15: we got a different Kelvin. The first couple of years
Speaker 15: were you know, by his standards a little a little rough.
Speaker 15: But since they've gotten rolling.
Speaker 16: Uh you know, he's been Uh.
Speaker 15: He's telling you could tell he's at the.
Speaker 16: The end of his career.
Speaker 15: He's he's laid back, he's mellowed. He's got his kids
Speaker 15: that work in the office down the hall from.
Speaker 16: Him, and he's got the grand kids.
Speaker 15: So, uh, maybe it's a different Kelvin from that some
Speaker 15: people knew at Oklahoma, and certainly the Kelvin from Indiana.
Speaker 15: Uh days, So but you know he's been about what
Speaker 15: you'd expect. And Uh, one thing that that is true
Speaker 15: of what we had heard is you know, he's won
Speaker 15: everywhere he's been and you know, to do what he's
Speaker 15: done at Houston with the resources that he inherited and
Speaker 15: and sort of put their the school on notice of
Speaker 15: what they needed to do and what they had to change. Uh,
Speaker 15: it's it's a remarkable turnaround.
Speaker 4: So so we know the Houston's mega market, the Astros
Speaker 4: and the football and the NFL and basketball with the
Speaker 4: Rockets who are surging, how do you find time or
Speaker 4: the paper find time to get you some coverage because
Speaker 4: there's so much things going on.
Speaker 3: But also these guys are good.
Speaker 15: Yeah, and you know Texas is different. You know, the
Speaker 15: the Longhorns down in Austin are considered kind of a
Speaker 15: pro team in terms of how the media covers them.
Speaker 15: Same thing about thirty ninety minutes down the road in
Speaker 15: College Station with Texas A and M. So there's a
Speaker 15: there's a lot, uh to compete for if you're Houston,
Speaker 15: and you know Texas is a is a football state
Speaker 15: and Houston hadn't done well in football, so that's sort
Speaker 15: of Uh, there's been an opening for for Kelvin and
Speaker 15: his program to do what they've done in the last
Speaker 15: decade where they treated you know, like, you know, one
Speaker 15: of the one of the premiere programs in the region
Speaker 15: as far as we're concerned, and you know, we travel
Speaker 15: with them and uh, you know wherever they go that
Speaker 15: we go pretty much.
Speaker 16: And and it's but that's it.
Speaker 15: You're right, it's a tough it's a tough situation because
Speaker 15: you're having to fight for for eyeballs and readers and
Speaker 15: and and just to to kind of find your little
Speaker 15: piece of the newspaper that you can you know, get
Speaker 15: out there. But they're you know, they're on the front
Speaker 15: page well pretty much every day or close to it.
Speaker 15: And uh, you know a lot of that has to
Speaker 15: do with what Kilvin. When you win thirty three and
Speaker 15: thirty four games a year and you make the Sweet
Speaker 15: sixteen and the Elite eight, uh, you're you're gonna get
Speaker 15: covered and you're gonna get noticed. And then I think
Speaker 15: people by now are used to, uh what Houston puts
Speaker 15: out puts out every year.
Speaker 5: So let me ask you about his team, because as
Speaker 5: we just a minute ago, to say, the nicest guy
Speaker 5: on the planet right as great a guy, always a
Speaker 5: smile on his face, always accomplished. But yet if you
Speaker 5: at least in Tucson, if you ask somebody give me
Speaker 5: one word for Houston, they're gonna say tough or are
Speaker 5: they gonna say physical?
Speaker 6: How does he get that out of.
Speaker 5: His team when he's you know, as we say, one
Speaker 5: of the nicest guys you'd ever want to meet.
Speaker 15: Well, it's non negotiable. And the nice guy that we
Speaker 15: may see, that's not that's not what they get in practice.
Speaker 15: You know, I've snuck in a few times and gotten
Speaker 15: the season practices, and they're tough. And the funny story
Speaker 15: a couple of days ago, some of his former players
Speaker 15: were just you know, remembering things, and they talked about
Speaker 15: a game practice after they lost the Temple a few
Speaker 15: years ago.
Speaker 3: I think they had.
Speaker 15: Won thirty three games a year, but they lost the Temple.
Speaker 15: And the next day Calvin Sampson brings him into practice.
Speaker 15: There's no balls on the court or anything, and all
Speaker 15: the staff members and all the managers and the training
Speaker 15: zepp are lined up at mid court and he made
Speaker 15: every single player go up to every single staffer and
Speaker 15: a apologize for wasting their time and losing that game,
Speaker 15: So that kind of shows you the demand that's there.
Speaker 15: You know, he emphasizes rebounds, he emphasizes the defense. He
Speaker 15: you know, every little part of their program he's got
Speaker 15: his hands on and it demands perfection. And even though
Speaker 15: we see the almost the jolly, grand polish you know,
Speaker 15: smile on his faith and that's the persona publicly, he
Speaker 15: he's hard. He's hard on them, and it trinkles down
Speaker 15: to his staff. You know, his son is the head
Speaker 15: coach in the waiting, Kellen Sampson, And you know he's
Speaker 15: got a couple of his former OBAMA players that are
Speaker 15: on staff, and Quantis White and Hollis Price, every single
Speaker 15: one of them has a job and at the end,
Speaker 15: they all report to the big guy. And he he
Speaker 15: is a perfectionist and he wants it done his way.
Speaker 15: And you know you'll see him up twenty sometimes and
Speaker 15: he's not happy and he's kicking on the on the
Speaker 15: on the bench and is upset and the camera will
Speaker 15: catch him. So don't don't let.
Speaker 17: The smiles fool you all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no question.
Speaker 15: You know, if you ask a lot of his players,
Speaker 15: they'll they'll say that they don't some other practices. They
Speaker 15: wish that practices to them are tougher sometimes.
Speaker 3: In the games.
Speaker 4: So before we get into the team for the game tomorrow,
Speaker 4: let me ask you. Last year I had Houston winning
Speaker 4: at all. I thought they were fantastic. Then the guard
Speaker 4: goes down. How did he take that that defeat?
Speaker 15: Well, it was tough because you know, he he doesn't
Speaker 15: have many years left coaching, at least that's the plan.
Speaker 15: You know, he's he's got two years left on his
Speaker 15: current contract, and many think that, you know, this is
Speaker 15: this is.
Speaker 3: It coming up.
Speaker 15: So there aren't a lot of opportunities left. And you know,
Speaker 15: the years that they beat Arizona and the Sweet sixteen,
Speaker 15: they were you know they I think they went one
Speaker 15: for nineteen, one for twenty on threes and it was
Speaker 15: like a forty eight forty five loss to Vilenova in
Speaker 15: the Elite eight. That team could have won it. So
Speaker 15: they've they've been really close a couple of times. The
Speaker 15: year that they got to the Final four, Baylor was
Speaker 15: the better team and Baylor ends up winning the title. Uh,
Speaker 15: he looked at that one as hey, you know, it
Speaker 15: was great to get to the final four, but we
Speaker 15: we ran into a really good team these last two trips.
Speaker 15: With Jamal Ship getting hurt last year, I thought that
Speaker 15: that was a final four team. So, you know, he's
Speaker 15: they know that it's just been a string.
Speaker 3: Of bad luck.
Speaker 15: It's been injuries that have happened at the worst time.
Speaker 15: But uh, you know, every year they're replacing four starters
Speaker 15: most of the time, and and they're still getting back
Speaker 15: to the second weekend of the tournament. So uh, in
Speaker 15: that regard, you know, I think that that there's very
Speaker 15: pleased with the consistency there, and it's just they got
Speaker 15: to get over that hump eventually.
Speaker 5: So have you how much time have you spent studying
Speaker 5: this matchup and what does it look like to you?
Speaker 15: Well, you know, a lot of it starts with the
Speaker 15: guards and that's a lot of what Houston talked about
Speaker 15: this week, especially you know Caleb Love and uh Kelvin
Speaker 15: described him as fearless and and a beast and and
Speaker 15: sort of how they do things. You know, this is
Speaker 15: a game of you got the the NASCAR version of
Speaker 15: how Arizona runs the offense, and then you sort of
Speaker 15: have the well it's the hair of the tortoise.
Speaker 18: Uh.
Speaker 15: You know, Houston typically runs a very slower uh style
Speaker 15: of offense, but you know, they can push it when
Speaker 15: when they want. It's not necessarily their game, but you know,
Speaker 15: that's one of the things that I think is a
Speaker 15: big matchup. And then you know, just looking at Houston
Speaker 15: is all about, uh, the unscripted type points. They like
Speaker 15: to force you into mistakes that they can converb whether
Speaker 15: it's second chance points, fast break points, you know, those
Speaker 15: kind of things. They really played well against Baylor in
Speaker 15: those areas and ended up winning easily.
Speaker 16: On on Monday nights.
Speaker 15: So uh, it's it's Houston can can work things inside
Speaker 15: like they'd like to do. They go through j One
Speaker 15: Roberts a lot.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 15: I think that that's their formula for success lately. And
Speaker 15: it's also a matter of the two guards and Crier
Speaker 15: and Sharp, both of them been dealing with uh little
Speaker 15: injuries a hand and an ankle, So it'll be interesting
Speaker 15: to see how those guys can sort of stay with
Speaker 15: a team that that might have them, you know, on
Speaker 15: the run quite a bit in the in the game.
Speaker 4: So, Jane, I have been covering Arizona basketball since my
Speaker 4: late eighties.
Speaker 3: We've seen a lot of games.
Speaker 4: What was the reaction when when you guys, the Big
Speaker 4: Twelve saw Arizona coming into the league because if it's
Speaker 4: a basketball conference, why not have Arizona in there?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 15: Oh? Absolutely? And and you look at what the Big
Speaker 15: Twelve before they added the four corner schools. You know,
Speaker 15: they had talked about Yukon, you had heard about Gonzaga,
Speaker 15: and you know, and they that with Gonzaga, you know,
Speaker 15: they they've always wanted to kind of go westward and
Speaker 15: and and add their their imprint. But to get get
Speaker 15: a team like Arizona that I think that was a
Speaker 15: perfect situation just because they're a name program, They're they're
Speaker 15: a blue blood. I don't know if you saw Tolbyn's
Speaker 15: comments this week just about his history with the program
Speaker 15: and loud Olsen and the respect that he has. You know,
Speaker 15: he said, look, Ucla had the name, but Arizona had
Speaker 15: the program. And that's no knock on Tommy Lloyd now,
Speaker 15: but it's just going back that far. People remember those
Speaker 15: Arizona teams. You know, I growing up, I was a
Speaker 15: teenager during those times that I remember watching those games
Speaker 15: and watching Arizona make those deep tournament runs every March.
Speaker 15: So you know, the Big Twelve to go and add
Speaker 15: the schools that they added, but specifically to get a
Speaker 15: in Arizona that that was huge and it just added
Speaker 15: to you know, the Kansas that they had the Baylor
Speaker 15: you know, I always say he've played well last year's
Speaker 15: and you know, I don't think anybody thought Houston would
Speaker 15: come in last year and go I think it was
Speaker 15: fit team and three and really run away with the thing.
Speaker 15: Uh So that was that was a big surprise. But
Speaker 15: then you throw Houston in now and look at the league.
Speaker 15: You got the two new then two of the newest
Speaker 15: teams in the in the in the conference going one
Speaker 15: too right now in a battle for first place this
Speaker 15: weekend in Kansas, which has been the kind of the
Speaker 15: torch bearer, is sitting at five.
Speaker 3: Or six losses.
Speaker 15: So I mean, it's a different kind of league right now.
Speaker 15: Uh and and Houston and Canada, Houston and Arizona have
Speaker 15: fit in really nicely in their first couple of years,
Speaker 15: or in Arizona's case, their first year.
Speaker 3: Do you want to bring it to or Steve.
Speaker 5: And I have been having an argument for two or
Speaker 5: three years, four years on whether or not Arizona is
Speaker 5: a blue blood. I'm the fan in the room so
Speaker 5: I've said they are. But you know, it just depends
Speaker 5: on what you consider a blue blood. If you go
Speaker 5: beyond the Duke Michigan State, uh.
Speaker 3: North Carolina, Kentucky.
Speaker 5: Right, if you stretch it to a next level where
Speaker 5: you're thrown in a Michigan state and Michigan U c
Speaker 5: l A. You know, I don't know who else. I
Speaker 5: think Arizona's in that group. So we have this argument
Speaker 5: all the times. He says they're not, I say they are.
Speaker 5: You just said, you know, you considered them.
Speaker 3: He spoke.
Speaker 16: Yukon the fit that you know description.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, yeah, they're newer to the neighborhood. But yes,
Speaker 4: here's my here's my theory, Joseph. They haven't been to
Speaker 4: a Final four since two thousand and one, they've only
Speaker 4: won one title, ninety seven, and they've been a pretty
Speaker 4: good program, pretty consistent.
Speaker 3: But that doesn't make you blue blood.
Speaker 15: Well I'll solve the argument for you. They're just a
Speaker 15: different shade of blue. We're not saying what. We're not
Speaker 15: saying what type of blue they are. They're blue. Maybe
Speaker 15: it's a light blue, darker blue.
Speaker 16: So let's just go with that.
Speaker 3: You just created more problems.
Speaker 6: I love you.
Speaker 3: I don't even know you, but I love you. Uh,
Speaker 3: you were right. He was.
Speaker 4: He waxed poetic on loot. You know, like I said,
Speaker 4: he came down here, people loved him. I think he's
Speaker 4: Native American Party American, right, and so he lumby. The
Speaker 4: culture loved him when he'd come in. They love beating him,
Speaker 4: but they also cheered him on.
Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5: And you just mentioned you were a teenager back in
Speaker 5: when he but you know that My last memory of
Speaker 5: Calvin was when he can't.
Speaker 6: He was at Washington State.
Speaker 5: I think it was in maybe his second year, first
Speaker 5: or second year, and they played Arizona, host of the
Speaker 5: Pack Puff Tournament, and they played U c l A
Speaker 5: and they beat him.
Speaker 6: Washington State beat U c l A.
Speaker 5: And Calvin ran off the court, tearing his jacket off
Speaker 5: as he's running, and he was incredibly excited. But more
Speaker 5: than anything, the place was packed and at the time,
Speaker 5: Walt Hazard was the coach of U c l A,
Speaker 5: who's probably one of the top three villains for Arizona.
Speaker 5: You have thought Arizona was playing U c l A
Speaker 5: in that game, and the fans always loved Calvin. It's
Speaker 5: gonna be interesting to see. I think that they're not
Speaker 5: gonna boo him tomorrow. They're gonna like now they may
Speaker 5: boot his team.
Speaker 3: But the older people, but people they.
Speaker 15: Would go Oklahoma last year and they he got a
Speaker 15: stand in ovation. Yeah, it was that. It was that
Speaker 15: type of perception. I think the only place that he
Speaker 15: would be well received is Indiana, but that's neither.
Speaker 16: Here or there.
Speaker 15: But no, you I mean, you're right. I mean he's
Speaker 15: he's got a rivalry with Oklahoma State, went back from
Speaker 15: the OU days and they it's a respect I mean,
Speaker 15: you don't have to necessarily clap and and cheer form,
Speaker 15: but but there's that respect factor and uh that goes
Speaker 15: a long way. And I think there's you know, and
Speaker 15: he's also been around the game so long that you know,
Speaker 15: he's got friendships that stretch from you know, Rick Barnes
Speaker 15: to uh Iso to Mark you the CALIPERI I mean
Speaker 15: the guy, the guy you know has has been around
Speaker 15: and you know, he's a he's approaching eight hundred wins
Speaker 15: next year early in the year, and you know, I
Speaker 15: don't think there're you know, people are gonna say he's
Speaker 15: never won a championship, but everything else he's done, uh
Speaker 15: merits being a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4: So before we leave here, I want to get everybody's
Speaker 4: prediction because I had a mind on Tuesday.
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna change.
Speaker 4: So Jay, you go first, and Will, Joseph, and then myself.
Speaker 6: It pains my heart.
Speaker 5: I think Houston comes in and wins a very close game,
Speaker 5: A very close game. I think Houston will impose their
Speaker 5: will and keep it a low scoring game. They're physical,
Speaker 5: they're tough. I don't know that Arizona is quite there yet.
Speaker 5: I may think differently if they meet in the Big
Speaker 5: TOF Tournament. I think I think Houston comes in and
Speaker 5: wins tomorrow. Arizona's been great at home, but it's time
Speaker 5: they lost one.
Speaker 4: Do we know the line? Could you check, Henry? Go ahead, Joseph.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think it's like a sixty eight sixty four
Speaker 15: or maybe sixty five to sixty.
Speaker 16: One, a poll point game. I'm going with Houston.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So if you say that score to me.
Speaker 4: I've covered this team for a long long time, and
Speaker 4: you were talking about if they go in the half court.
Speaker 4: There's one thing that Arizona cannot do well, and that's
Speaker 4: go slow and Houston's gonna be tough physical, tough physical,
Speaker 4: and if they make him play in the fifties lower sixties,
Speaker 4: this is a Houston game because Arizona's still not ready.
Speaker 5: For y you know, I mean sad one and a half.
Speaker 5: They get Houston giving one and a half. So Arizona
Speaker 5: is an underdog at home.
Speaker 4: And that here's another thing. Justph they lost Tuesday to
Speaker 4: Kansas State. We've seen this a thousand times, we read
Speaker 4: that book a few times. That's not a shock to us.
Speaker 4: But here's another shock. Give them Houston and make them
Speaker 4: an underdog. Arizona shows up for these games, right, one
Speaker 4: hundred percent?
Speaker 19: Right.
Speaker 15: Well, hey, I'll tell you this real quick, guys. And
Speaker 15: it was told to me a few weeks ago. Houston
Speaker 15: got Kansas State when they didn't even look like they
Speaker 15: were interested to be on the court. It was almost
Speaker 15: like somebody was holding their nil checks and had paid
Speaker 15: or something. They just and and every contender that's behind
Speaker 15: Houston has one or two games left against Kansas State
Speaker 15: and they have all lost to Kansas State in this
Speaker 15: stretch that Kansas State's playing their their minds out. So
Speaker 15: that's that's huge because because Houston's done with them and
Speaker 15: everybody's having trouble case that sort of that put Houston
Speaker 15: in this position that they're in where you know, they
Speaker 15: could have a two game lead in the in the
Speaker 15: league if they were.
Speaker 16: To win tomorrow and you have won.
Speaker 15: Five left or six left, Yeah, that's that's a lot
Speaker 15: because everybody else has three, four or five losses.
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Speaker 15: We'll see tomorrow, all right, guys, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 4: Joseph Dwarta from the Houston Chronicle, I agree with I
Speaker 4: think we all agree that if that's the scenario.
Speaker 5: It's based on higher zone. You know, Arizona can't have
Speaker 5: the stretches that they that they have. They can't give
Speaker 5: up a thirteen ohero run like they did against Kansas
Speaker 5: State because of turnovers and stuff like that. They've got
Speaker 5: to make some shots. Now, do I think Arizona can
Speaker 5: win absolutely thing? It's like a but it's like a
Speaker 5: sixty forty kids.
Speaker 3: So let me say this.
Speaker 4: Don't you feel more comfortable going to do this game
Speaker 4: knowing that Arizona can play physical because you've seen it
Speaker 4: in the past.
Speaker 3: We had never seen it.
Speaker 4: Right now, they played in Iowa State tough physically, tax
Speaker 4: physically tough, So they have that in them. Forget about
Speaker 4: the Kansastate game because they didn't have that. But they
Speaker 4: have it in them sure, especially and the home crowd
Speaker 4: is going to make a difference.
Speaker 3: It is going to make a difference.
Speaker 4: I think they can touch this game because this is
Speaker 4: not a touchable game.
Speaker 5: Well no, because I'm not because I don't bet against Arizona,
Speaker 5: so I'm not.
Speaker 3: Going to do it.
Speaker 4: And they're getting one in half, they're getting one in
Speaker 4: might as well get Yeah, that's not I mean, I
Speaker 4: don't you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm not. I'm I'm just not.
Speaker 5: I just think that Houston is just really really good.
Speaker 5: And like I said, you know, they may meet meet
Speaker 5: again down the road and it could be a different
Speaker 5: story on a neutral court somewhere in Arizona's you know,
Speaker 5: play Arizona's just not playing as well as you think
Speaker 5: they need to be playing to win this game.
Speaker 4: Right, Okay, we thought we're going to take off. Henry's
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Speaker 4: Hey, welcome back to the ball here on Fox Sports
Speaker 4: fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, and today with me is
Speaker 4: Jay Gonzalez Henri at the booth.
Speaker 3: Let's go. We're gonna listen to Tom maybe a couple
Speaker 3: of minutes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you had a couple of good points to make
Speaker 5: today about just some things that you know, we've been
Speaker 5: seeing the last couple of time haven't been seen or
Speaker 5: I haven't been saying well, well, One of the things
Speaker 5: is the turnovers that they you have had a lot
Speaker 5: of that stuff. They I mean, they were able to
Speaker 5: get past Texas Tech with that, but not past Kansas State.
Speaker 21: Okay, you've got a player like him that's giving you
Speaker 21: some aggressiveness of the offensive end.
Speaker 2: But at the same time.
Speaker 3: He's got to play better.
Speaker 19: He's got to play better and and and Deli knows
Speaker 19: that We've talked about it. We need Deli shooting. We
Speaker 19: need Deli to be a catch and shoot player. You know,
Speaker 19: I don't need Deli playmaking as much I need Deli.
Speaker 19: I think one of the best things he can give
Speaker 19: us is an influx of shooting. And and he has
Speaker 19: done that in stretches. And now you know, he's at
Speaker 19: a pivotal moment in his career as a developing player.
Speaker 19: You know, you're you're at a higher level. You know
Speaker 19: the stakes are high. You got to figure out what
Speaker 19: you got to do to be effective and thrive.
Speaker 3: At this level. And Delhi can really shoot the ball.
Speaker 19: And obviously, you know, shooting isn't one of our strengths
Speaker 19: overall as a team, it's one of his Please give
Speaker 19: us more shooting. Real Wisconsin last year, you downplayed significantly
Speaker 19: what happened ten years ago, but then.
Speaker 5: After the game, players were like, no, it really kind
Speaker 5: of had ufit.
Speaker 12: So I understand, I mean you even want to make
Speaker 12: that public, But does what happened againt Houston three years
Speaker 12: ago and anything.
Speaker 14: Through none today?
Speaker 3: None other than that.
Speaker 19: I know, you know what it feels like to play
Speaker 19: against him, and I know it's tough, So there's no
Speaker 19: extra motivation this morning on take.
Speaker 18: It off today.
Speaker 8: An incredible transformation on tiptom.
Speaker 3: You got to got a commercial on the YouTube feed
Speaker 3: nation Now, I mean, what's so different than now?
Speaker 19: And then then you're in the SPEE sixteen playing to
Speaker 19: the Elite eight and all as if now you're in
Speaker 19: the same conference, you're gonna be button heads all the time.
Speaker 3: And you know what, we want to be.
Speaker 19: At Houston's level consistently and uh and we know we
Speaker 19: got to earn that right, so you know we look,
Speaker 19: I'm looking forward to this game, you know, no matter
Speaker 19: what the outcome, I'm looking forward to this game.
Speaker 21: I mean looking obviously kJ and all that he gives
Speaker 21: the defensive league but at times has turned it over
Speaker 21: in some unusual situations. Is that just a matter of
Speaker 21: a young guy. Maybe the game speeds up at times
Speaker 21: too much for him, and he makes those times.
Speaker 19: I mean, you know, you know, we we probably could
Speaker 19: look at every turnover independently and try to assess it.
Speaker 19: kJ is a really good player. And listen, guys make mistakes.
Speaker 19: One thing kJ consistently does, he outperforms his mistakes, and
Speaker 19: and so there's no such thing as a perfect basketball player.
Speaker 3: It doesn't exist.
Speaker 19: It's not a perfect coach, not a perfect person, definitely
Speaker 19: not a perfect basket player. But when you have somebody
Speaker 19: who plays with great effort and impacts the game in
Speaker 19: so many ways, they're gonna and they make a few mistakes,
Speaker 19: you know, you're living and you know, obviously we're coaching
Speaker 19: him and trying to help him with some of those mistakes.
Speaker 19: He's listening to us, trying to fix some of those mistakes.
Speaker 19: But kJ outperforms any negative thing he does here and there,
Speaker 19: He outperforms it every game, even before the you.
Speaker 3: Know, things like that. From that is I'm glad he's
Speaker 3: the coach.
Speaker 4: He's very honest and very straightforward and a good quote,
Speaker 4: and he's telling you how he feels.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 5: He again, what we don't as fans, as journalists, we're not.
Speaker 6: We don't.
Speaker 5: We in a lot of ways don't even understand the
Speaker 5: coaching aspect of this.
Speaker 3: We think we do.
Speaker 5: Later on in the in the press conference, he he
Speaker 5: he talked about how he said, there's a lot of
Speaker 5: gray area in the basketball game.
Speaker 6: He goes, you guys.
Speaker 5: Talking to the media, goes, you guys wanted to be
Speaker 5: black or white? You know, he said, you analyze the game,
Speaker 5: he said, well, it should have been this, or it
Speaker 5: should have been that. He said, that's not how it
Speaker 5: is in a basketball game. And he said it's all gray.
Speaker 5: He said, we as coaches work in the gray area and.
Speaker 3: It's you know, did he explain what that gray area is?
Speaker 5: Well, I can't remember exactly what he said, but basically
Speaker 5: talking about how and when. When you're talking about kJ, right,
Speaker 5: he's going to make mistakes and then he's gonna play well.
Speaker 5: You guys want him to always play well and never
Speaker 5: make a mistake. You want this or that, and it's
Speaker 5: everything is pretty much in between.
Speaker 3: Did you say it that way? Almost?
Speaker 5: So, he didn't say it like that as it relates
Speaker 5: to kJ, But that's what I interpret is that we
Speaker 5: want them to always be good and never be bad
Speaker 5: when he's understanding that sometimes we're going to be good
Speaker 5: and sometimes we're going to be bad.
Speaker 3: Sure, so I we got to call this this second. Hello,
Speaker 3: you're on the air and nine on the ball.
Speaker 17: Who's this Brian?
Speaker 3: Brian Way? We got a new guy here.
Speaker 17: I thought he had new interna.
Speaker 3: He's an older, old one.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 17: All the money he makes now he can do.
Speaker 15: This for free.
Speaker 3: He was, what do you got, Brian? What do you got?
Speaker 17: Well, you know, it's what we talked about the other day.
Speaker 17: It's just you know, whether we win thirteen out of fourteen.
Speaker 3: Or something like that.
Speaker 17: I mean, it did really, really well, but we still
Speaker 17: didn't really believe in the team even winning thirteen or fourteen.
Speaker 3: Who's the week that there's just who's the week?
Speaker 17: I was, okay, okay, it's just not enough consistency. Yeah,
Speaker 17: I mean it's like, okay, if Caleb Love, I mean, sure,
Speaker 17: how bad it was the other night that we can shoot.
Speaker 3: Nine percent of whatever it is from three.
Speaker 17: And only lose by two. And I'm sitting there going
Speaker 17: this team has so much potential, but the problem is
Speaker 17: we have no idea if they will or they can.
Speaker 3: Put it together in a run. You know for maybe, yeah,
Speaker 3: six seven games.
Speaker 17: In a tournament. We don't know. Every game to.
Speaker 16: Us is going to be a toss up in the
Speaker 16: tournament if we get there.
Speaker 3: I'm assuming we are, but never can't tell.
Speaker 17: But we you know, every game the rest of the
Speaker 17: season in the regular schedule is a toss up.
Speaker 18: It is.
Speaker 17: I mean, there's just no such statement.
Speaker 3: There's no gimmeis anymore?
Speaker 6: Is it better? Good for you as a fan?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 5: Brian too, I feel like we could lose every We
Speaker 5: could lose every day, but we can also win every day,
Speaker 5: as opposed to going.
Speaker 3: Into a game thinking we really should win this game.
Speaker 5: You know, we're gonna win this game unless we do
Speaker 5: something stupid.
Speaker 3: And how much fun is that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's kind of like it's kind of like you
Speaker 5: got it is.
Speaker 17: It is fun. But what's happened is we're so used
Speaker 17: to the pack, yes, and what it was like there,
Speaker 17: you know, I mean, like you guys talked about earlier,
Speaker 17: we had our two or three really tough games on
Speaker 17: the schedule and everything else we should have won easily or.
Speaker 3: Should have won I don't know about easily, but.
Speaker 17: We weren't, you know, and we did, you know, we
Speaker 17: we would get our you know twenty you know, have
Speaker 17: thirty games in the season winning. Well, that's not gonna
Speaker 17: happen too much more in the big twelve, you know,
Speaker 17: we get twenty two wins, they should be very happy.
Speaker 17: Ye I mean our next seven eight games, whatever it is.
Speaker 17: I I just you know, I think four and three
Speaker 17: would I would be satisfied.
Speaker 4: Well guess what, that's probably what you're gonna have to
Speaker 4: be satisfied with.
Speaker 17: Right, yeah, you know, we.
Speaker 4: Don't allow pragmatic, pragmatic, practical.
Speaker 3: People to call the show.
Speaker 6: What the hell is going on?
Speaker 3: How did you get through?
Speaker 17: I told him, I I told him I was Nico.
Speaker 4: All right, thank you, bro, we got to go already,
Speaker 4: He's right, four to three. My whole thing is they
Speaker 4: played this okay, not so tough, but not so easy schedule.
Speaker 4: Uh all right, wait give me a second year.
Speaker 5: But all these games are are madder down the road.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, right, As you mentioned, they seem and
Speaker 5: look a lot more physical and prepared than in past years.
Speaker 4: If anything that came up to me, the last ten
Speaker 4: games wins lose, they are ready for what's ahead. Because
Speaker 4: I never thought they would play like that. You know,
Speaker 4: they might do it without being physical. No, they did
Speaker 4: it with being physical.
Speaker 3: Okay. Are we ready to go? Okay, let's go.