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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on

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<v Speaker 2>Big.

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<v Speaker 3>Good to do it, everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>This is Steve Rivera, I on the Ball, Fox fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess today, I guess host. Let's co host chickens

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<v Speaker 4>Awas Change.

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<v Speaker 3>We missed you.

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<v Speaker 5>I miss you, guys, man, I really do. No matter

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<v Speaker 5>what you hear out there, I do miss you, guys.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't hear any I choose to be no attention

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<v Speaker 5>to the outside noise. Now, I'm glad to be here

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<v Speaker 5>Friday afternoon, man, getting ready for a weekend, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Hear, And it's most likely you'll be here most Fridays.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm gonna try to be here on every Friday.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't tell your brothers.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, my other.

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<v Speaker 5>Jobs, you know, but kind of trying to keep my

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<v Speaker 5>calendar clear as much as I can to be able

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<v Speaker 5>to come in on Fridays and you know, get us

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<v Speaker 5>ready for a weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and this weekend they don't come any bigger than

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<v Speaker 4>in basketball then this one, outside of maybe the Duke game,

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<v Speaker 4>you know how that went.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, And that was a nonconference game.

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<v Speaker 5>This is way bigger, right, Yeah, if you beat Duke,

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<v Speaker 5>it's all it's all cool.

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<v Speaker 6>We saw what happened last year.

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<v Speaker 5>They beat him and then but you know this time,

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<v Speaker 5>you know this is a this is a huge game, right,

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<v Speaker 5>It's got a lot of national attention. It's at noon

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<v Speaker 5>our time, two o'clock Eastern time, means in the middle

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<v Speaker 5>of the day. It's made a lot of conversation about it.

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<v Speaker 5>It means a lot. You know, whoever wins this game

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<v Speaker 5>has got in inside track to the to the league championship.

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<v Speaker 4>Right right, which of course you never would have thought

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<v Speaker 4>that with Arizona a couple of months ago. Maybe you're

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<v Speaker 4>thinking maybe fifth, lucky, maybe fourth, But now they have

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<v Speaker 4>a chance to win it, win it all with let

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<v Speaker 4>me tell you this, Jay, and you you would agree

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<v Speaker 4>the Gauntlet has yet to happen, and it begins now,

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<v Speaker 4>right right, Well.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it begin Tuesday. Well yeah, but you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know it's funny because you know the people that I

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<v Speaker 5>that I talked to you, and you know you know who.

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<v Speaker 3>The suspects are. Now I want you to change those people.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, people are upset to got beat for Tuesday night,

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm like, why are we upset.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, they played like they played terrible.

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<v Speaker 5>They should well, they played bad because the other team

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<v Speaker 5>made them play bad.

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<v Speaker 3>They lost a road game.

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<v Speaker 5>Think about it, they played you know, they did a

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<v Speaker 5>bunch of dumb things. If they did, as I put it,

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<v Speaker 5>they did about seventy dumb things, and if they had

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<v Speaker 5>done sixty seven dumb things, they win the game.

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<v Speaker 6>I said.

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<v Speaker 5>On top of it, Okay, just think back four and

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<v Speaker 5>five coming out of conference play. If I said, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>they're going to be eleven and two in the conference,

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<v Speaker 5>do you sign up for that? And I'm like and

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<v Speaker 5>they're like, yeah, I said, you would have signed up

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<v Speaker 5>for nine and four, nine and three. You know, they're

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<v Speaker 5>eleven and two in the league and they're playing Houston

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<v Speaker 5>this weekend for to take the lead in the conference.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, what are you upset about?

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<v Speaker 4>First of all, those guys aren't realistic, and I'm surprised aren't.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, they're not. That was not a surprise that

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<v Speaker 4>they lost. Both teams played horribly, but actually both teams

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<v Speaker 4>shot poorly. Uh, Kansas State was lucky to win the game.

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<v Speaker 4>Arizona had a chance, but they could have easily lost

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<v Speaker 4>the game, and they did.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, full disclosure. Okay, I was pissed off Tuesday

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<v Speaker 5>night at the end of the game too, because because

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<v Speaker 5>I thought, just make about three fewer mistakes and you

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<v Speaker 5>win this game.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, right, Kansas is probably saying Kansas State is probably

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<v Speaker 4>saying the same thing. H you go one for nineteen Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>well for nineteen, two for twenty two.

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<v Speaker 5>Make one three pointer? Right, well, two three pointers and

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<v Speaker 5>you win the game.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh hit more for Kansas States. I hit some tree

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<v Speaker 4>throws and you're not even in the or worried about or.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't let that little guy with the headband go off

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<v Speaker 5>for twenty four?

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<v Speaker 6>When is when is it? Coverage is ten? You know?

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<v Speaker 5>And then I said, I said exactly what I just

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<v Speaker 5>said to myself.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, why are you pissed off.

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<v Speaker 5>When they're you know, they're in second place in the

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<v Speaker 5>league and there's a huge game coming up this week.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, with a chance to get up there.

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<v Speaker 4>It's understandable from the from the crowd that you're with,

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<v Speaker 4>and uh, they had an opportunity. They're right there. It

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<v Speaker 4>didn't happen, and you're kind of not resting on you.

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<v Speaker 4>You hope that it continues. Yeah, we've seen this game

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<v Speaker 4>un a thousand You've seen in a thousand games, a

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<v Speaker 4>thousand thousand times. I have to now here comes the

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<v Speaker 4>funny thing that was little Basketball. Lose that game Saturday,

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<v Speaker 4>turn around. Play a team that you don't shouldn't beat

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<v Speaker 4>at home, but.

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<v Speaker 5>You probably will be but you could and you and

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<v Speaker 5>you have you beat them pretty good here, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>So at the bottom line, Steve, and this is you know,

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<v Speaker 5>goes back to when we found out that they were

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<v Speaker 5>for sure going into the Big twelve. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of games, yeah, that aren't gimmes unlike the PAC twelve. Sure, sure,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, think about think about how much fun we're

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<v Speaker 5>having at Michale this year. Yeah, how many good how

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<v Speaker 5>many good Pac twelve home games were there each year?

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<v Speaker 3>Three?

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<v Speaker 6>One, maybe two?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, if Oregon was good and if U

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<v Speaker 5>see La was good, and then maybe one other team

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<v Speaker 5>was good occasionally, but generally of two really good games.

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<v Speaker 3>And at the end of the day, those didn't really

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<v Speaker 3>prepare you for what was ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>Right and here, every game, yeah is a fun game. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it's a great game game, even.

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<v Speaker 4>From the teams that look Texas Tech, who would issue

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<v Speaker 4>almost beat Texas Tech and Texas Tate came here, gave

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<v Speaker 4>Arizona a hell of a game, and it was a

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<v Speaker 4>fun game to watch, probably the fun most fun game

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<v Speaker 4>until Iowa State or you know whatever, all those games. So,

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<v Speaker 4>but now moving forward, they play Houston tomorrow. Uh, let

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<v Speaker 4>me just kind of go through the schedule before we

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<v Speaker 4>start the day. Tommy spoke today. We might have some

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<v Speaker 4>some of his stuff from his press conference. Later at

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<v Speaker 4>the three seventeen, three eighteen hour, we're gonna have Joseph

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<v Speaker 4>Dwarte from the Houston Chronicle. He covers the Houston Cougars

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<v Speaker 4>for that paper. And then at three four seventeen, we're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna have our buddy friand Forschila, who was on the

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<v Speaker 4>show about three weeks ago talking about the game. He's

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<v Speaker 4>in town to do the game, and he's the big

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<v Speaker 4>Big twelve kind of like he follows it. He follows it,

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<v Speaker 4>he covers it, and he's here for the big game.

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<v Speaker 4>And I you know, he'll give us a national perspective. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>what do people think of Arizona.

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<v Speaker 5>I still think that they're undervalued right now because of

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<v Speaker 5>that four and five.

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<v Speaker 4>I totally agree with you. They well going into the game.

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<v Speaker 4>And Henry might may may not agree with this, but

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<v Speaker 4>they are what thirteen and one? Yeah, conservative the hottest

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<v Speaker 4>team in the country at the time. Setback as the setback, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>but still what thirteen and two in the least thirteen.

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<v Speaker 5>So we'll see, Yeah, I mean, one of the hottest

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<v Speaker 5>teams in the country. Still it's Arizona. You're thirteen and one,

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<v Speaker 5>you had won thirteen of your last fourteen games, and

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<v Speaker 5>you still couldn't get into the top ten in a

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<v Speaker 5>great conference.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Well, they moved up. The funny thing, Lonardi has

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<v Speaker 3>him a three. Right.

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<v Speaker 4>I would have never thought them being the three, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>four or five tops. But guess what, there's still a

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<v Speaker 4>month left in this crazy, crazy tough schedule.

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<v Speaker 3>Well there is.

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<v Speaker 5>And looking at the schedule they got as you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean talk about they got to jump on the

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<v Speaker 5>pointy probably going to jump on a plane tomorrow, right

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<v Speaker 5>and go to go to uh Waco for Baylor today Saturday.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe they'll maybe they'll fly in flying Sunday. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>they got Bay They got Baylor on Monday, which is

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<v Speaker 5>gonna be a that's gonna be a war because Baylor's

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<v Speaker 5>pissed off it.

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<v Speaker 6>They came here and got there.

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<v Speaker 3>There's tough. Right.

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<v Speaker 5>Then you got b Yu coming here. Okay, right, you

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<v Speaker 5>know you think you should win that because of how

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<v Speaker 5>you handled them over there. You got Utah coming here,

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<v Speaker 5>all right, you should take that.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go, let's go three, let's go two and one

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<v Speaker 3>or three, you know, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Then you got to go.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you've got to go to Iowa State. Okay, folks,

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<v Speaker 3>if you count that as.

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<v Speaker 5>A loss right now, yes, and if they get a

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<v Speaker 5>win out of that, great, but be ready, be ready.

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<v Speaker 3>For them to lose that game. Sure, and it may

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<v Speaker 3>not even be pretty. Right.

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<v Speaker 6>Then they got a s U gear and then they

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<v Speaker 6>go to Kansas.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think that's five and two, four and two, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>could be four and three. Yeah, with those it's tough.

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<v Speaker 4>And then and then you have the pack then you

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<v Speaker 5>Then you have a big tough turn. But look, you

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<v Speaker 5>know again you mentioned what a SU did. The Texas

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<v Speaker 5>Tech they took, they took them to overtime. Now you knew,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, the people I was talking to on our thread,

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<v Speaker 5>we knew they were gonna blow the game. We knew,

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<v Speaker 5>and she was going to lose that game. There was

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<v Speaker 5>no doubt. It was just a matter of you know,

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<v Speaker 5>when when right. But you know, a sun, don't underestimate Asu.

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<v Speaker 5>They've got guys who if they all play together, they'll

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<v Speaker 5>play well.

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<v Speaker 6>At the same time, they can be too.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, they gave Arizona a tough run for like

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<v Speaker 4>thirty eight minutes until they didn't you, until they umploded.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so there's a lot left, there's a lot left

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<v Speaker 5>to go, a lot of season left, and there's some

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<v Speaker 5>losses out there left.

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<v Speaker 4>See here's the issue. And you're a fan, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna get on you guys who are fans. So they

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<v Speaker 4>go four and five, people were, oh the world is ending, right,

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<v Speaker 4>Oh the world is ending. Week suck and we're not

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<v Speaker 4>even gonna make the tournament. Then they go thirteen and one, Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>we're the stuff. And then if I could cuss, I would.

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<v Speaker 4>We're the stuff because Arizona fans can't handle prosperity because

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<v Speaker 4>either there's total misery or no one's going to beat us.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they got to the point where they think they

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<v Speaker 3>should never lose.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's and that's the problem. Thank you for my point,

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<v Speaker 4>because that's what that's how they feel. They should have

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<v Speaker 5>In any given season, there were maybe two teams who

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<v Speaker 3>We saw that, and there were some of those.

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<v Speaker 5>But in terms of two teams that were kind of

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<v Speaker 6>You know, West virgin good.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm excited, Steve. This has been fun.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, this has been really fun, and we don't

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<v Speaker 3>Jumping up and done right. You know, they're kind of

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not saying they're not any good, but they don't

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<v Speaker 3>You got into this league for. But you get into basketball.

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<v Speaker 5>And when you've got Kansas, Baylor, Houston, Texas Tech, Kansas State,

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<v Speaker 5>There are so many teams that every game is fun

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<v Speaker 4>only have like a seven to eight man rotation, right,

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<v Speaker 4>So you're playing with them. But delarso you're not getting

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<v Speaker 4>You're getting sporadic play from kleb Kg at times, you

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<v Speaker 4>to the nitty gritty, you can't do that anymore. You

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<v Speaker 4>it through twenty games. How is it going to change?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, because you look at this and you

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<v Speaker 5>more injuries and stuff like that. I said, But to

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<v Speaker 4>Team at the minimum. The thing is who knows who

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<v Speaker 5>second round, do you're not up against somebody that has

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<v Speaker 5>you get a run where you just got you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Right, so it all depends. But if you go just

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<v Speaker 5>Seeds and stuff like that, I think there's still no

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<v Speaker 5>better than a sweet sixteen team right now. I just

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<v Speaker 5>don't see that the level in terms of good because

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<v Speaker 4>Blah, how good are they? Out of ten? There's seven

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<v Speaker 4>look at them? I said, there's still issues.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, because on any day, Caleb Love can go two

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you we keep seeing Tobyo Waka doing all

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<v Speaker 1>the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, welcome back to the ball here on Fox Sports

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<v Speaker 3>fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. In with me today is

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<v Speaker 3>Jay Gonzales. Now on the phone.

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<v Speaker 4>We have Joseph Dwarte from the Houston Critical Covers The

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<v Speaker 4>Cougar's Joseph.

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<v Speaker 3>How you doing good?

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<v Speaker 2>Steve? How you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>We're doing? Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>It's Rivera, Gonzales and Dwarte. Like an infield infield for

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<v Speaker 4>the Astros.

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<v Speaker 15>I know that's like a six four three.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we'd be out six four three. Right, yeah, thank hey,

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<v Speaker 3>good to hear from you.

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<v Speaker 15>Men.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me ask you first, because I think it's an

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<v Speaker 4>obvious question that we probably know the answer to.

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<v Speaker 3>How is it covering Kelvin?

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<v Speaker 15>Oh, it's a it's a blast. It's so good that

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<v Speaker 15>after eleven years, I'm coming out with the book in

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<v Speaker 15>a few months. And I know you and I have.

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<v Speaker 16>Kind of briefly talked about.

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<v Speaker 15>It's just he's such a quote machine that I just said,

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<v Speaker 15>I've been compiling quote for over a decade of his

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<v Speaker 15>best lines and I'm putting a kind of a fun

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<v Speaker 15>book together. But that that's sort of what what he is.

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<v Speaker 15>He's he's just a great mind and and and you know,

476
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<v Speaker 15>future Hall of Famer to cover and it's it's never

477
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<v Speaker 15>a dull moment. And of course you know they they

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<v Speaker 15>don't lose very often, and they went a lot and uh,

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<v Speaker 15>this year has been no different.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, when you when you first met him, what was

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<v Speaker 5>your first impression, because you know, I had a chance

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<v Speaker 5>to meet him when you first got the job at

483
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<v Speaker 5>Washington State that that dates me. But he he was

484
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<v Speaker 5>the nicest guy from the moment I met him, and

485
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<v Speaker 5>stayed that way, you know, every time I ever ate

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<v Speaker 5>into him.

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<v Speaker 4>And if I could also answer that what he bought

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<v Speaker 4>his team here too. He was the most popular opposing

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<v Speaker 4>coach from opposing teams in the Pac twelve.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, and you know, you know I didn't I didn't

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<v Speaker 15>really have any idea maybe what what what he was like.

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<v Speaker 15>You know, I think it's a little different because he

493
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<v Speaker 15>was coming off of five years out of the game

494
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<v Speaker 15>because of the the NCAA, the show cause penalty that

495
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<v Speaker 15>he had to serve, so uh, you know, he kind

496
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<v Speaker 15>of he kind of took the the uh getting back

497
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<v Speaker 15>into the college game as a fresh start. So maybe

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<v Speaker 15>we got a different Kelvin. The first couple of years

499
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<v Speaker 15>were you know, by his standards a little a little rough.

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<v Speaker 15>But since they've gotten rolling.

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<v Speaker 16>Uh you know, he's been Uh.

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<v Speaker 15>He's telling you could tell he's at the.

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<v Speaker 16>The end of his career.

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<v Speaker 15>He's he's laid back, he's mellowed. He's got his kids

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<v Speaker 15>that work in the office down the hall from.

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<v Speaker 16>Him, and he's got the grand kids.

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<v Speaker 15>So, uh, maybe it's a different Kelvin from that some

508
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<v Speaker 15>people knew at Oklahoma, and certainly the Kelvin from Indiana.

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<v Speaker 15>Uh days, So but you know he's been about what

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<v Speaker 15>you'd expect. And Uh, one thing that that is true

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<v Speaker 15>of what we had heard is you know, he's won

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<v Speaker 15>everywhere he's been and you know, to do what he's

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<v Speaker 15>done at Houston with the resources that he inherited and

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<v Speaker 15>and sort of put their the school on notice of

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<v Speaker 15>what they needed to do and what they had to change. Uh,

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<v Speaker 15>it's it's a remarkable turnaround.

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<v Speaker 4>So so we know the Houston's mega market, the Astros

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<v Speaker 4>and the football and the NFL and basketball with the

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<v Speaker 4>Rockets who are surging, how do you find time or

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<v Speaker 4>the paper find time to get you some coverage because

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<v Speaker 4>there's so much things going on.

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<v Speaker 3>But also these guys are good.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, and you know Texas is different. You know, the

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<v Speaker 15>the Longhorns down in Austin are considered kind of a

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<v Speaker 15>pro team in terms of how the media covers them.

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<v Speaker 15>Same thing about thirty ninety minutes down the road in

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<v Speaker 15>College Station with Texas A and M. So there's a

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<v Speaker 15>there's a lot, uh to compete for if you're Houston,

529
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<v Speaker 15>and you know Texas is a is a football state

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<v Speaker 15>and Houston hadn't done well in football, so that's sort

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<v Speaker 15>of Uh, there's been an opening for for Kelvin and

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<v Speaker 15>his program to do what they've done in the last

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<v Speaker 15>decade where they treated you know, like, you know, one

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<v Speaker 15>of the one of the premiere programs in the region

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<v Speaker 15>as far as we're concerned, and you know, we travel

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<v Speaker 15>with them and uh, you know wherever they go that

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<v Speaker 15>we go pretty much.

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<v Speaker 16>And and it's but that's it.

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<v Speaker 15>You're right, it's a tough it's a tough situation because

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<v Speaker 15>you're having to fight for for eyeballs and readers and

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<v Speaker 15>and and just to to kind of find your little

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<v Speaker 15>piece of the newspaper that you can you know, get

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<v Speaker 15>out there. But they're you know, they're on the front

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<v Speaker 15>page well pretty much every day or close to it.

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<v Speaker 15>And uh, you know a lot of that has to

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<v Speaker 15>do with what Kilvin. When you win thirty three and

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<v Speaker 15>thirty four games a year and you make the Sweet

548
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<v Speaker 15>sixteen and the Elite eight, uh, you're you're gonna get

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<v Speaker 15>covered and you're gonna get noticed. And then I think

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<v Speaker 15>people by now are used to, uh what Houston puts

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<v Speaker 15>out puts out every year.

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<v Speaker 5>So let me ask you about his team, because as

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<v Speaker 5>we just a minute ago, to say, the nicest guy

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<v Speaker 5>on the planet right as great a guy, always a

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<v Speaker 5>smile on his face, always accomplished. But yet if you

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<v Speaker 5>at least in Tucson, if you ask somebody give me

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<v Speaker 5>one word for Houston, they're gonna say tough or are

558
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<v Speaker 5>they gonna say physical?

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<v Speaker 6>How does he get that out of.

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<v Speaker 5>His team when he's you know, as we say, one

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<v Speaker 5>of the nicest guys you'd ever want to meet.

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<v Speaker 15>Well, it's non negotiable. And the nice guy that we

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<v Speaker 15>may see, that's not that's not what they get in practice.

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<v Speaker 15>You know, I've snuck in a few times and gotten

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<v Speaker 15>the season practices, and they're tough. And the funny story

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<v Speaker 15>a couple of days ago, some of his former players

567
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<v Speaker 15>were just you know, remembering things, and they talked about

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<v Speaker 15>a game practice after they lost the Temple a few

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<v Speaker 15>years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they had.

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<v Speaker 15>Won thirty three games a year, but they lost the Temple.

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<v Speaker 15>And the next day Calvin Sampson brings him into practice.

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<v Speaker 15>There's no balls on the court or anything, and all

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<v Speaker 15>the staff members and all the managers and the training

575
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<v Speaker 15>zepp are lined up at mid court and he made

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<v Speaker 15>every single player go up to every single staffer and

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<v Speaker 15>a apologize for wasting their time and losing that game,

578
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<v Speaker 15>So that kind of shows you the demand that's there.

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<v Speaker 15>You know, he emphasizes rebounds, he emphasizes the defense. He

580
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<v Speaker 15>you know, every little part of their program he's got

581
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<v Speaker 15>his hands on and it demands perfection. And even though

582
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<v Speaker 15>we see the almost the jolly, grand polish you know,

583
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<v Speaker 15>smile on his faith and that's the persona publicly, he

584
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<v Speaker 15>he's hard. He's hard on them, and it trinkles down

585
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<v Speaker 15>to his staff. You know, his son is the head

586
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<v Speaker 15>coach in the waiting, Kellen Sampson, And you know he's

587
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<v Speaker 15>got a couple of his former OBAMA players that are

588
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<v Speaker 15>on staff, and Quantis White and Hollis Price, every single

589
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<v Speaker 15>one of them has a job and at the end,

590
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<v Speaker 15>they all report to the big guy. And he he

591
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<v Speaker 15>is a perfectionist and he wants it done his way.

592
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<v Speaker 15>And you know you'll see him up twenty sometimes and

593
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<v Speaker 15>he's not happy and he's kicking on the on the

594
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<v Speaker 15>on the bench and is upset and the camera will

595
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<v Speaker 15>catch him. So don't don't let.

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<v Speaker 17>The smiles fool you all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no question.

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<v Speaker 15>You know, if you ask a lot of his players,

599
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<v Speaker 15>they'll they'll say that they don't some other practices. They

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<v Speaker 15>wish that practices to them are tougher sometimes.

601
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<v Speaker 3>In the games.

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<v Speaker 4>So before we get into the team for the game tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 4>let me ask you. Last year I had Houston winning

604
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<v Speaker 4>at all. I thought they were fantastic. Then the guard

605
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<v Speaker 4>goes down. How did he take that that defeat?

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<v Speaker 15>Well, it was tough because you know, he he doesn't

607
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<v Speaker 15>have many years left coaching, at least that's the plan.

608
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<v Speaker 15>You know, he's he's got two years left on his

609
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<v Speaker 15>current contract, and many think that, you know, this is

610
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<v Speaker 15>this is.

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<v Speaker 3>It coming up.

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<v Speaker 15>So there aren't a lot of opportunities left. And you know,

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<v Speaker 15>the years that they beat Arizona and the Sweet sixteen,

614
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<v Speaker 15>they were you know they I think they went one

615
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<v Speaker 15>for nineteen, one for twenty on threes and it was

616
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<v Speaker 15>like a forty eight forty five loss to Vilenova in

617
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<v Speaker 15>the Elite eight. That team could have won it. So

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<v Speaker 15>they've they've been really close a couple of times. The

619
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<v Speaker 15>year that they got to the Final four, Baylor was

620
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<v Speaker 15>the better team and Baylor ends up winning the title. Uh,

621
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<v Speaker 15>he looked at that one as hey, you know, it

622
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<v Speaker 15>was great to get to the final four, but we

623
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<v Speaker 15>we ran into a really good team these last two trips.

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<v Speaker 15>With Jamal Ship getting hurt last year, I thought that

625
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:21.319
<v Speaker 15>that was a final four team. So, you know, he's

626
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<v Speaker 15>they know that it's just been a string.

627
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<v Speaker 3>Of bad luck.

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<v Speaker 15>It's been injuries that have happened at the worst time.

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<v Speaker 15>But uh, you know, every year they're replacing four starters

630
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<v Speaker 15>most of the time, and and they're still getting back

631
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<v Speaker 15>to the second weekend of the tournament. So uh, in

632
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<v Speaker 15>that regard, you know, I think that that there's very

633
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<v Speaker 15>pleased with the consistency there, and it's just they got

634
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<v Speaker 15>to get over that hump eventually.

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<v Speaker 5>So have you how much time have you spent studying

636
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<v Speaker 5>this matchup and what does it look like to you?

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<v Speaker 15>Well, you know, a lot of it starts with the

638
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<v Speaker 15>guards and that's a lot of what Houston talked about

639
00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:03.119
<v Speaker 15>this week, especially you know Caleb Love and uh Kelvin

640
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:07.160
<v Speaker 15>described him as fearless and and a beast and and

641
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:10.359
<v Speaker 15>sort of how they do things. You know, this is

642
00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:15.599
<v Speaker 15>a game of you got the the NASCAR version of

643
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:18.400
<v Speaker 15>how Arizona runs the offense, and then you sort of

644
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:20.319
<v Speaker 15>have the well it's the hair of the tortoise.

645
00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:21.079
<v Speaker 18>Uh.

646
00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:25.839
<v Speaker 15>You know, Houston typically runs a very slower uh style

647
00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:28.440
<v Speaker 15>of offense, but you know, they can push it when

648
00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:30.920
<v Speaker 15>when they want. It's not necessarily their game, but you know,

649
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.039
<v Speaker 15>that's one of the things that I think is a

650
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:36.480
<v Speaker 15>big matchup. And then you know, just looking at Houston

651
00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:40.839
<v Speaker 15>is all about, uh, the unscripted type points. They like

652
00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:44.440
<v Speaker 15>to force you into mistakes that they can converb whether

653
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:48.240
<v Speaker 15>it's second chance points, fast break points, you know, those

654
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:51.759
<v Speaker 15>kind of things. They really played well against Baylor in

655
00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:55.720
<v Speaker 15>those areas and ended up winning easily.

656
00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:56.440
<v Speaker 16>On on Monday nights.

657
00:29:56.480 --> 00:30:01.160
<v Speaker 15>So uh, it's it's Houston can can work things inside

658
00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:02.799
<v Speaker 15>like they'd like to do. They go through j One

659
00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:03.599
<v Speaker 15>Roberts a lot.

660
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:04.200
<v Speaker 3>I think.

661
00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:07.640
<v Speaker 15>I think that that's their formula for success lately. And

662
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:11.160
<v Speaker 15>it's also a matter of the two guards and Crier

663
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:14.599
<v Speaker 15>and Sharp, both of them been dealing with uh little

664
00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:19.759
<v Speaker 15>injuries a hand and an ankle, So it'll be interesting

665
00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:23.359
<v Speaker 15>to see how those guys can sort of stay with

666
00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:26.039
<v Speaker 15>a team that that might have them, you know, on

667
00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:27.839
<v Speaker 15>the run quite a bit in the in the game.

668
00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:30.920
<v Speaker 4>So, Jane, I have been covering Arizona basketball since my

669
00:30:31.039 --> 00:30:31.599
<v Speaker 4>late eighties.

670
00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:33.400
<v Speaker 3>We've seen a lot of games.

671
00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:36.759
<v Speaker 4>What was the reaction when when you guys, the Big

672
00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:39.880
<v Speaker 4>Twelve saw Arizona coming into the league because if it's

673
00:30:39.920 --> 00:30:42.440
<v Speaker 4>a basketball conference, why not have Arizona in there?

674
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:42.720
<v Speaker 3>Right?

675
00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:46.680
<v Speaker 15>Oh? Absolutely? And and you look at what the Big

676
00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:50.160
<v Speaker 15>Twelve before they added the four corner schools. You know,

677
00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:53.039
<v Speaker 15>they had talked about Yukon, you had heard about Gonzaga,

678
00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:55.759
<v Speaker 15>and you know, and they that with Gonzaga, you know,

679
00:30:55.759 --> 00:30:58.480
<v Speaker 15>they they've always wanted to kind of go westward and

680
00:30:58.759 --> 00:31:02.160
<v Speaker 15>and and add their their imprint. But to get get

681
00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:04.759
<v Speaker 15>a team like Arizona that I think that was a

682
00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:09.400
<v Speaker 15>perfect situation just because they're a name program, They're they're

683
00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:11.599
<v Speaker 15>a blue blood. I don't know if you saw Tolbyn's

684
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:14.920
<v Speaker 15>comments this week just about his history with the program

685
00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:18.559
<v Speaker 15>and loud Olsen and the respect that he has. You know,

686
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:21.839
<v Speaker 15>he said, look, Ucla had the name, but Arizona had

687
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:25.559
<v Speaker 15>the program. And that's no knock on Tommy Lloyd now,

688
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:28.920
<v Speaker 15>but it's just going back that far. People remember those

689
00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:31.200
<v Speaker 15>Arizona teams. You know, I growing up, I was a

690
00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:35.000
<v Speaker 15>teenager during those times that I remember watching those games

691
00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:39.240
<v Speaker 15>and watching Arizona make those deep tournament runs every March.

692
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:42.519
<v Speaker 15>So you know, the Big Twelve to go and add

693
00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:44.759
<v Speaker 15>the schools that they added, but specifically to get a

694
00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:48.039
<v Speaker 15>in Arizona that that was huge and it just added

695
00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:51.440
<v Speaker 15>to you know, the Kansas that they had the Baylor

696
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:54.000
<v Speaker 15>you know, I always say he've played well last year's

697
00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:57.359
<v Speaker 15>and you know, I don't think anybody thought Houston would

698
00:31:57.359 --> 00:31:59.759
<v Speaker 15>come in last year and go I think it was

699
00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:02.880
<v Speaker 15>fit team and three and really run away with the thing.

700
00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:07.039
<v Speaker 15>Uh So that was that was a big surprise. But

701
00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:09.839
<v Speaker 15>then you throw Houston in now and look at the league.

702
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:12.079
<v Speaker 15>You got the two new then two of the newest

703
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:14.880
<v Speaker 15>teams in the in the in the conference going one

704
00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:16.680
<v Speaker 15>too right now in a battle for first place this

705
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:19.440
<v Speaker 15>weekend in Kansas, which has been the kind of the

706
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:22.640
<v Speaker 15>torch bearer, is sitting at five.

707
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:23.160
<v Speaker 3>Or six losses.

708
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:25.160
<v Speaker 15>So I mean, it's a different kind of league right now.

709
00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:28.359
<v Speaker 15>Uh and and Houston and Canada, Houston and Arizona have

710
00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:31.559
<v Speaker 15>fit in really nicely in their first couple of years,

711
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:33.400
<v Speaker 15>or in Arizona's case, their first year.

712
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:36.200
<v Speaker 3>Do you want to bring it to or Steve.

713
00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:38.079
<v Speaker 5>And I have been having an argument for two or

714
00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:41.480
<v Speaker 5>three years, four years on whether or not Arizona is

715
00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:44.240
<v Speaker 5>a blue blood. I'm the fan in the room so

716
00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:48.359
<v Speaker 5>I've said they are. But you know, it just depends

717
00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:50.039
<v Speaker 5>on what you consider a blue blood. If you go

718
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:54.240
<v Speaker 5>beyond the Duke Michigan State, uh.

719
00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:55.599
<v Speaker 3>North Carolina, Kentucky.

720
00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:58.119
<v Speaker 5>Right, if you stretch it to a next level where

721
00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:02.319
<v Speaker 5>you're thrown in a Michigan state and Michigan U c

722
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:04.400
<v Speaker 5>l A. You know, I don't know who else. I

723
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:06.559
<v Speaker 5>think Arizona's in that group. So we have this argument

724
00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:08.440
<v Speaker 5>all the times. He says they're not, I say they are.

725
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:11.000
<v Speaker 5>You just said, you know, you considered them.

726
00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:11.839
<v Speaker 3>He spoke.

727
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:16.599
<v Speaker 16>Yukon the fit that you know description.

728
00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:19.920
<v Speaker 4>Oh yes, yeah, they're newer to the neighborhood. But yes,

729
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:23.160
<v Speaker 4>here's my here's my theory, Joseph. They haven't been to

730
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:25.240
<v Speaker 4>a Final four since two thousand and one, they've only

731
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:27.920
<v Speaker 4>won one title, ninety seven, and they've been a pretty

732
00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:29.200
<v Speaker 4>good program, pretty consistent.

733
00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:30.759
<v Speaker 3>But that doesn't make you blue blood.

734
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:36.039
<v Speaker 15>Well I'll solve the argument for you. They're just a

735
00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:39.359
<v Speaker 15>different shade of blue. We're not saying what. We're not

736
00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:42.880
<v Speaker 15>saying what type of blue they are. They're blue. Maybe

737
00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:46.359
<v Speaker 15>it's a light blue, darker blue.

738
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:47.799
<v Speaker 16>So let's just go with that.

739
00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:49.759
<v Speaker 3>You just created more problems.

740
00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:50.440
<v Speaker 6>I love you.

741
00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:54.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know you, but I love you. Uh,

742
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:55.839
<v Speaker 3>you were right. He was.

743
00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:58.400
<v Speaker 4>He waxed poetic on loot. You know, like I said,

744
00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:00.839
<v Speaker 4>he came down here, people loved him. I think he's

745
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:05.359
<v Speaker 4>Native American Party American, right, and so he lumby. The

746
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:07.839
<v Speaker 4>culture loved him when he'd come in. They love beating him,

747
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:08.960
<v Speaker 4>but they also cheered him on.

748
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:09.639
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'll tell you what.

749
00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:13.000
<v Speaker 5>And you just mentioned you were a teenager back in

750
00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:18.039
<v Speaker 5>when he but you know that My last memory of

751
00:34:18.519 --> 00:34:19.599
<v Speaker 5>Calvin was when he can't.

752
00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:20.920
<v Speaker 6>He was at Washington State.

753
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:22.880
<v Speaker 5>I think it was in maybe his second year, first

754
00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:26.639
<v Speaker 5>or second year, and they played Arizona, host of the

755
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:28.440
<v Speaker 5>Pack Puff Tournament, and they played U c l A

756
00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:29.840
<v Speaker 5>and they beat him.

757
00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:32.400
<v Speaker 6>Washington State beat U c l A.

758
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:36.599
<v Speaker 5>And Calvin ran off the court, tearing his jacket off

759
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:40.159
<v Speaker 5>as he's running, and he was incredibly excited. But more

760
00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:43.440
<v Speaker 5>than anything, the place was packed and at the time,

761
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:45.320
<v Speaker 5>Walt Hazard was the coach of U c l A,

762
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:48.039
<v Speaker 5>who's probably one of the top three villains for Arizona.

763
00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:51.079
<v Speaker 5>You have thought Arizona was playing U c l A

764
00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:54.000
<v Speaker 5>in that game, and the fans always loved Calvin. It's

765
00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:56.960
<v Speaker 5>gonna be interesting to see. I think that they're not

766
00:34:56.960 --> 00:34:58.800
<v Speaker 5>gonna boo him tomorrow. They're gonna like now they may

767
00:34:58.800 --> 00:34:59.840
<v Speaker 5>boot his team.

768
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:02.719
<v Speaker 3>But the older people, but people they.

769
00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:05.559
<v Speaker 15>Would go Oklahoma last year and they he got a

770
00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:08.559
<v Speaker 15>stand in ovation. Yeah, it was that. It was that

771
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:11.400
<v Speaker 15>type of perception. I think the only place that he

772
00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:15.079
<v Speaker 15>would be well received is Indiana, but that's neither.

773
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:15.480
<v Speaker 16>Here or there.

774
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:18.400
<v Speaker 15>But no, you I mean, you're right. I mean he's

775
00:35:18.519 --> 00:35:21.440
<v Speaker 15>he's got a rivalry with Oklahoma State, went back from

776
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:24.679
<v Speaker 15>the OU days and they it's a respect I mean,

777
00:35:24.840 --> 00:35:28.119
<v Speaker 15>you don't have to necessarily clap and and cheer form,

778
00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:31.840
<v Speaker 15>but but there's that respect factor and uh that goes

779
00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:34.079
<v Speaker 15>a long way. And I think there's you know, and

780
00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:37.960
<v Speaker 15>he's also been around the game so long that you know,

781
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:41.559
<v Speaker 15>he's got friendships that stretch from you know, Rick Barnes

782
00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:45.559
<v Speaker 15>to uh Iso to Mark you the CALIPERI I mean

783
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:48.719
<v Speaker 15>the guy, the guy you know has has been around

784
00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:50.920
<v Speaker 15>and you know, he's a he's approaching eight hundred wins

785
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:53.360
<v Speaker 15>next year early in the year, and you know, I

786
00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:55.519
<v Speaker 15>don't think there're you know, people are gonna say he's

787
00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:58.559
<v Speaker 15>never won a championship, but everything else he's done, uh

788
00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:00.679
<v Speaker 15>merits being a Hall of Famer.

789
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:03.639
<v Speaker 4>So before we leave here, I want to get everybody's

790
00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:05.079
<v Speaker 4>prediction because I had a mind on Tuesday.

791
00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:05.960
<v Speaker 3>I think I'm gonna change.

792
00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:09.599
<v Speaker 4>So Jay, you go first, and Will, Joseph, and then myself.

793
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:10.559
<v Speaker 6>It pains my heart.

794
00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:13.320
<v Speaker 5>I think Houston comes in and wins a very close game,

795
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:17.360
<v Speaker 5>A very close game. I think Houston will impose their

796
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:20.199
<v Speaker 5>will and keep it a low scoring game. They're physical,

797
00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:22.719
<v Speaker 5>they're tough. I don't know that Arizona is quite there yet.

798
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:25.440
<v Speaker 5>I may think differently if they meet in the Big

799
00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:27.599
<v Speaker 5>TOF Tournament. I think I think Houston comes in and

800
00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:30.400
<v Speaker 5>wins tomorrow. Arizona's been great at home, but it's time

801
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:30.960
<v Speaker 5>they lost one.

802
00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:35.039
<v Speaker 4>Do we know the line? Could you check, Henry? Go ahead, Joseph.

803
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:38.679
<v Speaker 15>Yeah, I think it's like a sixty eight sixty four

804
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:40.599
<v Speaker 15>or maybe sixty five to sixty.

805
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:43.679
<v Speaker 16>One, a poll point game. I'm going with Houston.

806
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:45.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, So if you say that score to me.

807
00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:48.360
<v Speaker 4>I've covered this team for a long long time, and

808
00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:50.079
<v Speaker 4>you were talking about if they go in the half court.

809
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:53.079
<v Speaker 4>There's one thing that Arizona cannot do well, and that's

810
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:58.000
<v Speaker 4>go slow and Houston's gonna be tough physical, tough physical,

811
00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:01.800
<v Speaker 4>and if they make him play in the fifties lower sixties,

812
00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:05.599
<v Speaker 4>this is a Houston game because Arizona's still not ready.

813
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:08.280
<v Speaker 5>For y you know, I mean sad one and a half.

814
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:11.440
<v Speaker 5>They get Houston giving one and a half. So Arizona

815
00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:12.440
<v Speaker 5>is an underdog at home.

816
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:16.880
<v Speaker 4>And that here's another thing. Justph they lost Tuesday to

817
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:20.280
<v Speaker 4>Kansas State. We've seen this a thousand times, we read

818
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:22.280
<v Speaker 4>that book a few times. That's not a shock to us.

819
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:25.599
<v Speaker 4>But here's another shock. Give them Houston and make them

820
00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:28.559
<v Speaker 4>an underdog. Arizona shows up for these games, right, one

821
00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:29.239
<v Speaker 4>hundred percent?

822
00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:29.679
<v Speaker 19>Right.

823
00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:33.199
<v Speaker 15>Well, hey, I'll tell you this real quick, guys. And

824
00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:35.880
<v Speaker 15>it was told to me a few weeks ago. Houston

825
00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:38.559
<v Speaker 15>got Kansas State when they didn't even look like they

826
00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:41.039
<v Speaker 15>were interested to be on the court. It was almost

827
00:37:41.039 --> 00:37:43.559
<v Speaker 15>like somebody was holding their nil checks and had paid

828
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:48.719
<v Speaker 15>or something. They just and and every contender that's behind

829
00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:52.079
<v Speaker 15>Houston has one or two games left against Kansas State

830
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:55.000
<v Speaker 15>and they have all lost to Kansas State in this

831
00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:58.719
<v Speaker 15>stretch that Kansas State's playing their their minds out. So

832
00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:01.639
<v Speaker 15>that's that's huge because because Houston's done with them and

833
00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:04.920
<v Speaker 15>everybody's having trouble case that sort of that put Houston

834
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:07.159
<v Speaker 15>in this position that they're in where you know, they

835
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:10.159
<v Speaker 15>could have a two game lead in the in the

836
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:11.079
<v Speaker 15>league if they were.

837
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:13.079
<v Speaker 16>To win tomorrow and you have won.

838
00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:16.280
<v Speaker 15>Five left or six left, Yeah, that's that's a lot

839
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:18.840
<v Speaker 15>because everybody else has three, four or five losses.

840
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:20.840
<v Speaker 4>Well, have a good time when you're visiting. Plenty of

841
00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:22.000
<v Speaker 4>Mexican restaurants for you.

842
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:25.480
<v Speaker 15>We'll see tomorrow, all right, guys, thanks for having me on.

843
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:26.000
<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

844
00:38:26.039 --> 00:38:29.000
<v Speaker 4>Joseph Dwarta from the Houston Chronicle, I agree with I

845
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:32.079
<v Speaker 4>think we all agree that if that's the scenario.

846
00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:36.440
<v Speaker 5>It's based on higher zone. You know, Arizona can't have

847
00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:39.320
<v Speaker 5>the stretches that they that they have. They can't give

848
00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:41.719
<v Speaker 5>up a thirteen ohero run like they did against Kansas

849
00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:43.800
<v Speaker 5>State because of turnovers and stuff like that. They've got

850
00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:46.519
<v Speaker 5>to make some shots. Now, do I think Arizona can

851
00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:49.639
<v Speaker 5>win absolutely thing? It's like a but it's like a

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<v Speaker 5>sixty forty kids.

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<v Speaker 3>So let me say this.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't you feel more comfortable going to do this game

855
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<v Speaker 4>knowing that Arizona can play physical because you've seen it

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<v Speaker 4>in the past.

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<v Speaker 3>We had never seen it.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now, they played in Iowa State tough physically, tax

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<v Speaker 4>physically tough, So they have that in them. Forget about

860
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<v Speaker 4>the Kansastate game because they didn't have that. But they

861
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<v Speaker 4>have it in them sure, especially and the home crowd

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<v Speaker 4>is going to make a difference.

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<v Speaker 3>It is going to make a difference.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they can touch this game because this is

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<v Speaker 4>not a touchable game.

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<v Speaker 5>Well no, because I'm not because I don't bet against Arizona,

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<v Speaker 5>so I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>And they're getting one in half, they're getting one in

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<v Speaker 4>might as well get Yeah, that's not I mean, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm not. I'm I'm just not.

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<v Speaker 5>I just think that Houston is just really really good.

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<v Speaker 5>And like I said, you know, they may meet meet

875
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<v Speaker 5>again down the road and it could be a different

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<v Speaker 5>story on a neutral court somewhere in Arizona's you know,

877
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<v Speaker 5>play Arizona's just not playing as well as you think

878
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<v Speaker 5>they need to be playing to win this game.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Okay, we thought we're going to take off. Henry's

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, welcome back to the ball here on Fox Sports

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<v Speaker 4>fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, and today with me is

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<v Speaker 4>Jay Gonzalez Henri at the booth.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go. We're gonna listen to Tom maybe a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of minutes.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you had a couple of good points to make

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<v Speaker 5>today about just some things that you know, we've been

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<v Speaker 5>seeing the last couple of time haven't been seen or

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<v Speaker 5>I haven't been saying well, well, One of the things

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<v Speaker 5>is the turnovers that they you have had a lot

966
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<v Speaker 5>of that stuff. They I mean, they were able to

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<v Speaker 5>get past Texas Tech with that, but not past Kansas State.

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<v Speaker 21>Okay, you've got a player like him that's giving you

969
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<v Speaker 21>some aggressiveness of the offensive end.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got to play better.

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<v Speaker 19>He's got to play better and and and Deli knows

973
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<v Speaker 19>that We've talked about it. We need Deli shooting. We

974
00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:24.079
<v Speaker 19>need Deli to be a catch and shoot player. You know,

975
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<v Speaker 19>I don't need Deli playmaking as much I need Deli.

976
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<v Speaker 19>I think one of the best things he can give

977
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<v Speaker 19>us is an influx of shooting. And and he has

978
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<v Speaker 19>done that in stretches. And now you know, he's at

979
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<v Speaker 19>a pivotal moment in his career as a developing player.

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<v Speaker 19>You know, you're you're at a higher level. You know

981
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<v Speaker 19>the stakes are high. You got to figure out what

982
00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:47.199
<v Speaker 19>you got to do to be effective and thrive.

983
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<v Speaker 3>At this level. And Delhi can really shoot the ball.

984
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<v Speaker 19>And obviously, you know, shooting isn't one of our strengths

985
00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:57.480
<v Speaker 19>overall as a team, it's one of his Please give

986
00:44:57.559 --> 00:45:03.280
<v Speaker 19>us more shooting. Real Wisconsin last year, you downplayed significantly

987
00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:05.480
<v Speaker 19>what happened ten years ago, but then.

988
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<v Speaker 5>After the game, players were like, no, it really kind

989
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<v Speaker 5>of had ufit.

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<v Speaker 12>So I understand, I mean you even want to make

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<v Speaker 12>that public, But does what happened againt Houston three years

992
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<v Speaker 12>ago and anything.

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<v Speaker 14>Through none today?

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<v Speaker 3>None other than that.

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<v Speaker 19>I know, you know what it feels like to play

996
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<v Speaker 19>against him, and I know it's tough, So there's no

997
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<v Speaker 19>extra motivation this morning on take.

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<v Speaker 18>It off today.

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<v Speaker 8>An incredible transformation on tiptom.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to got a commercial on the YouTube feed

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<v Speaker 3>nation Now, I mean, what's so different than now?

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<v Speaker 19>And then then you're in the SPEE sixteen playing to

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<v Speaker 19>the Elite eight and all as if now you're in

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<v Speaker 19>the same conference, you're gonna be button heads all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what, we want to be.

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<v Speaker 19>At Houston's level consistently and uh and we know we

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<v Speaker 19>got to earn that right, so you know we look,

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<v Speaker 19>I'm looking forward to this game, you know, no matter

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<v Speaker 19>what the outcome, I'm looking forward to this game.

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<v Speaker 21>I mean looking obviously kJ and all that he gives

1011
00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:05.000
<v Speaker 21>the defensive league but at times has turned it over

1012
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<v Speaker 21>in some unusual situations. Is that just a matter of

1013
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<v Speaker 21>a young guy. Maybe the game speeds up at times

1014
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<v Speaker 21>too much for him, and he makes those times.

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<v Speaker 19>I mean, you know, you know, we we probably could

1016
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<v Speaker 19>look at every turnover independently and try to assess it.

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00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:24.559
<v Speaker 19>kJ is a really good player. And listen, guys make mistakes.

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<v Speaker 19>One thing kJ consistently does, he outperforms his mistakes, and

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<v Speaker 19>and so there's no such thing as a perfect basketball player.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 19>It's not a perfect coach, not a perfect person, definitely

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<v Speaker 19>not a perfect basket player. But when you have somebody

1023
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<v Speaker 19>who plays with great effort and impacts the game in

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<v Speaker 19>so many ways, they're gonna and they make a few mistakes,

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<v Speaker 19>you know, you're living and you know, obviously we're coaching

1026
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<v Speaker 19>him and trying to help him with some of those mistakes.

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<v Speaker 19>He's listening to us, trying to fix some of those mistakes.

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<v Speaker 19>But kJ outperforms any negative thing he does here and there,

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<v Speaker 19>He outperforms it every game, even before the you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, things like that. From that is I'm glad he's

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<v Speaker 3>the coach.

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<v Speaker 4>He's very honest and very straightforward and a good quote,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's telling you how he feels.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 5>He again, what we don't as fans, as journalists, we're not.

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<v Speaker 6>We don't.

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<v Speaker 5>We in a lot of ways don't even understand the

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<v Speaker 5>coaching aspect of this.

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<v Speaker 3>We think we do.

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<v Speaker 5>Later on in the in the press conference, he he

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<v Speaker 5>he talked about how he said, there's a lot of

1042
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<v Speaker 5>gray area in the basketball game.

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<v Speaker 6>He goes, you guys.

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<v Speaker 5>Talking to the media, goes, you guys wanted to be

1045
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<v Speaker 5>black or white? You know, he said, you analyze the game,

1046
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:46.960
<v Speaker 5>he said, well, it should have been this, or it

1047
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:49.360
<v Speaker 5>should have been that. He said, that's not how it

1048
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<v Speaker 5>is in a basketball game. And he said it's all gray.

1049
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<v Speaker 5>He said, we as coaches work in the gray area and.

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<v Speaker 3>It's you know, did he explain what that gray area is?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I can't remember exactly what he said, but basically

1052
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<v Speaker 5>talking about how and when. When you're talking about kJ, right,

1053
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<v Speaker 5>he's going to make mistakes and then he's gonna play well.

1054
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<v Speaker 5>You guys want him to always play well and never

1055
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<v Speaker 5>make a mistake. You want this or that, and it's

1056
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<v Speaker 5>everything is pretty much in between.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you say it that way? Almost?

1058
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<v Speaker 5>So, he didn't say it like that as it relates

1059
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<v Speaker 5>to kJ, But that's what I interpret is that we

1060
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<v Speaker 5>want them to always be good and never be bad

1061
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<v Speaker 5>when he's understanding that sometimes we're going to be good

1062
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<v Speaker 5>and sometimes we're going to be bad.

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00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:35.159
<v Speaker 3>Sure, so I we got to call this this second. Hello,

1064
00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:36.159
<v Speaker 3>you're on the air and nine on the ball.

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00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:38.320
<v Speaker 17>Who's this Brian?

1066
00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:41.639
<v Speaker 3>Brian Way? We got a new guy here.

1067
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:46.760
<v Speaker 17>I thought he had new interna.

1068
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:50.239
<v Speaker 3>He's an older, old one.

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00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:50.760
<v Speaker 14>Yeah.

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00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:53.000
<v Speaker 17>All the money he makes now he can do.

1071
00:48:52.960 --> 00:48:53.480
<v Speaker 15>This for free.

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00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:57.920
<v Speaker 3>He was, what do you got, Brian? What do you got?

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00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:01.719
<v Speaker 17>Well, you know, it's what we talked about the other day.

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<v Speaker 17>It's just you know, whether we win thirteen out of fourteen.

1075
00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:05.840
<v Speaker 3>Or something like that.

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00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:08.920
<v Speaker 17>I mean, it did really, really well, but we still

1077
00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:13.679
<v Speaker 17>didn't really believe in the team even winning thirteen or fourteen.

1078
00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:15.719
<v Speaker 3>Who's the week that there's just who's the week?

1079
00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:21.360
<v Speaker 17>I was, okay, okay, it's just not enough consistency. Yeah,

1080
00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:26.679
<v Speaker 17>I mean it's like, okay, if Caleb Love, I mean, sure,

1081
00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:29.480
<v Speaker 17>how bad it was the other night that we can shoot.

1082
00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:31.320
<v Speaker 3>Nine percent of whatever it is from three.

1083
00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:36.000
<v Speaker 17>And only lose by two. And I'm sitting there going

1084
00:49:36.079 --> 00:49:39.199
<v Speaker 17>this team has so much potential, but the problem is

1085
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:42.760
<v Speaker 17>we have no idea if they will or they can.

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00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:46.400
<v Speaker 3>Put it together in a run. You know for maybe, yeah,

1087
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:47.880
<v Speaker 3>six seven games.

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00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:51.320
<v Speaker 17>In a tournament. We don't know. Every game to.

1089
00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:53.320
<v Speaker 16>Us is going to be a toss up in the

1090
00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:54.719
<v Speaker 16>tournament if we get there.

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00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:57.559
<v Speaker 3>I'm assuming we are, but never can't tell.

1092
00:49:58.400 --> 00:50:01.920
<v Speaker 17>But we you know, every game the rest of the

1093
00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:04.840
<v Speaker 17>season in the regular schedule is a toss up.

1094
00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:05.760
<v Speaker 18>It is.

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00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:07.079
<v Speaker 17>I mean, there's just no such statement.

1096
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:08.239
<v Speaker 3>There's no gimmeis anymore?

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00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:09.960
<v Speaker 6>Is it better? Good for you as a fan?

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<v Speaker 2>Though?

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<v Speaker 5>Brian too, I feel like we could lose every We

1100
00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:16.920
<v Speaker 5>could lose every day, but we can also win every day,

1101
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:18.119
<v Speaker 5>as opposed to going.

1102
00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:20.559
<v Speaker 3>Into a game thinking we really should win this game.

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00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:23.119
<v Speaker 5>You know, we're gonna win this game unless we do

1104
00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:23.679
<v Speaker 5>something stupid.

1105
00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:24.679
<v Speaker 3>And how much fun is that?

1106
00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:26.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's kind of like it's kind of like you

1107
00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:27.880
<v Speaker 5>got it is.

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00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:32.199
<v Speaker 17>It is fun. But what's happened is we're so used

1109
00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:35.760
<v Speaker 17>to the pack, yes, and what it was like there,

1110
00:50:35.840 --> 00:50:38.079
<v Speaker 17>you know, I mean, like you guys talked about earlier,

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00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:40.400
<v Speaker 17>we had our two or three really tough games on

1112
00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:43.559
<v Speaker 17>the schedule and everything else we should have won easily or.

1113
00:50:43.519 --> 00:50:45.880
<v Speaker 3>Should have won I don't know about easily, but.

1114
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:48.360
<v Speaker 17>We weren't, you know, and we did, you know, we

1115
00:50:48.679 --> 00:50:52.039
<v Speaker 17>we would get our you know twenty you know, have

1116
00:50:52.159 --> 00:50:55.079
<v Speaker 17>thirty games in the season winning. Well, that's not gonna

1117
00:50:55.079 --> 00:50:57.519
<v Speaker 17>happen too much more in the big twelve, you know,

1118
00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:01.960
<v Speaker 17>we get twenty two wins, they should be very happy.

1119
00:51:01.320 --> 00:51:05.480
<v Speaker 17>Ye I mean our next seven eight games, whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 17>I I just you know, I think four and three

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00:51:08.840 --> 00:51:10.679
<v Speaker 17>would I would be satisfied.

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00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:13.199
<v Speaker 4>Well guess what, that's probably what you're gonna have to

1123
00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:13.960
<v Speaker 4>be satisfied with.

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00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:17.920
<v Speaker 17>Right, yeah, you know, we.

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00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:21.360
<v Speaker 4>Don't allow pragmatic, pragmatic, practical.

1126
00:51:21.039 --> 00:51:22.000
<v Speaker 3>People to call the show.

1127
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:22.920
<v Speaker 6>What the hell is going on?

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00:51:23.039 --> 00:51:23.840
<v Speaker 3>How did you get through?

1129
00:51:26.480 --> 00:51:28.159
<v Speaker 17>I told him, I I told him I was Nico.

1130
00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:34.920
<v Speaker 4>All right, thank you, bro, we got to go already,

1131
00:51:35.599 --> 00:51:38.679
<v Speaker 4>He's right, four to three. My whole thing is they

1132
00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:42.079
<v Speaker 4>played this okay, not so tough, but not so easy schedule.

1133
00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:46.800
<v Speaker 4>Uh all right, wait give me a second year.

1134
00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:50.000
<v Speaker 5>But all these games are are madder down the road.

1135
00:51:50.039 --> 00:51:52.519
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, yeah, right, As you mentioned, they seem and

1136
00:51:53.039 --> 00:51:56.719
<v Speaker 5>look a lot more physical and prepared than in past years.

1137
00:51:56.760 --> 00:51:59.119
<v Speaker 4>If anything that came up to me, the last ten

1138
00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:03.400
<v Speaker 4>games wins lose, they are ready for what's ahead. Because

1139
00:52:03.480 --> 00:52:05.760
<v Speaker 4>I never thought they would play like that. You know,

1140
00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:08.079
<v Speaker 4>they might do it without being physical. No, they did

1141
00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:09.000
<v Speaker 4>it with being physical.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. Are we ready to go? Okay, let's go.
