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well as hosting his own podcast, The airin Towars podcast

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We Got airin Tours on the line erin how you living, mat,

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I'm doing well?

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Speaker 4: How am I living? I know you used me as

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a college football insider.

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Speaker 5: I gotta say I.

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Speaker 4: Live in LA and with about eight minutes to go

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in the BYU ucon game. The other night they fot

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me over to USC women's basketball. So I wasn't doing

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very well on Saturday at about you know, six forty

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five Pacific time, as AJ Debonsa was putting on a

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show for all of America. But I am doing well today.

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I know we're here to probably mostly talk about football,

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and I think BYU fans right now, you know, there's

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still games left on the schedule, but I think right

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now I have a legitimate right with what the committee

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did last night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, let's before we get into b YU,

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let's just discuss kind of overall how you feel about

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the rankings. Do you see anything that you maybe disagree

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with outside of BYU, What do you like?

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Speaker 3: What do you dislike?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, So it's funny I talked about on

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my show this morning, and I was just telling Ron,

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the producer of The Three Man Weave, the legend I

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was just on not that long ago, actually in Tuscaloosa,

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And it's funny because they're just as about the rankings

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as folks in Provo are.

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Speaker 5: And this is what actually.

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Speaker 4: Makes me really mad, and I'll be perfectly honest, is

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that every year, you know, in the off season, and

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I don't even know if BYU fans would have paid

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attention to this, but in the off season, the committee

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put in this new metric called strength of record. Okay,

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and I'll give a little backstory. I'm sure you've talked

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about it, probably for the last couple of weeks. But basically,

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last year, Indiana gets into.

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Speaker 5: Eleven and one.

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Speaker 4: Not only did they not play anybody in the off season,

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they actively like canceled the big games in the out

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of conference and so the SEC basically sat there and said,

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wait a second, now, you know, we got some nine

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to three teams that actually challenge people. You know, it

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shouldn't like the rankings shouldn't just be solely out of

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Speaker 5: And so they put in the strength.

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Speaker 4: To record metric, and it was supposed to, you know,

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change the way we're evaluating teams. And so I only

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bring that up to say, if that's the metric that

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should be most important to the Playoff Committee, because that's

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what we were told in the off season, then what's

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the metric that we should be using, you know, along

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with other things to judge these teams. And so you

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guys have talked about it, I know, but by us

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ranked six sixth to excuse me, ahead of Alabama, ahead

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of Oregon, you know, six spots ahead of Notre Dame.

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And it's just like, I guess that. You know, you

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asked me what is my biggest frustration? That is my

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biggest frustration is if you're gonna tell us something matters,

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then that's fine, but it has to actually matter. And

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it does just feel like these rankings, at least as

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of right now, are largely based on brand bias, preconceived notions,

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and frankly just win loss record because Oregon really probably

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Speaker 3: Oregon the most miss ranked team. Why is that?

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Speaker 5: Oh, Ben, you know, where do I begin?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, listen, you know what it really is, honestly,

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would be surprised for me to say this. They're this

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Speaker 5: You know Indiana.

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Speaker 4: Last year they go eleven and one, just the way

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that the schedule broke, you know, didn't beat anybody good.

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you know they lost to this was Indiana last year

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but we decided last year that basically an eleven to

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one Indiana team should get in. And so with Oregon

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this year, and part of it's not their fault. No

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one could have realized in real time what would have

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is not a good win.

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Speaker 5: It just isn't.

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Speaker 4: And so because it's not a good win, just because

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to change either positively or negatively in one direction.

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Speaker 5: To the other at the end of this weekend. But

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they have no good wins right now.

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Speaker 4: And so you know, the bottom line that I guess,

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the point that I'm trying to get to is we

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happen or how good are they actually No, no, no, it's

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about what have you done on the field to this

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point and right now, just Oregon doesn't have the resume

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of the seventh or eighth ranked team.

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Speaker 5: Whatever their actual ranking is.

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Speaker 4: That I have the rankings in front of me.

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Speaker 5: I think they're number seven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a tough pill to swallow for BAYU

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fans right now, too ninety to one a loss on

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the road to texta step are you do you feel

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like the committee is not taking into account where these

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games are being played home, road, neutral, Doesn't that matter matters?

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just talking about, well, this win against this opponent. They're

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not talking about road winds, home wins, neutral fields at all.

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Speaker 4: So I'll be honest, said, I was, you know, watching

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the you know, former Kentucky back or a former b

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what you basketball coach, Mark Pope, you know, have a

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pretty pretty lousy night last night, you know, And I

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was reacting to it right after the rankings came out.

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ago that they tried to argue that Oregon somehow has

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a great win over Penn State because it was on

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Speaker 5: So I don't know exactly what they said.

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Speaker 4: I do know that they, you know, and I'm paraphrasing, said, well,

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you know, by you lost it in ugly fashion to

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Texas Tech, and so that matters.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, of course all of this stuff matters.

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Speaker 4: And again, you know, I think people sometimes get mad

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at me because you can't pigeonhole me as of this

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or that or whatever. I just play by the rules

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that I've been given. And so again, based on what

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we've seen and based on what the committee tells us

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are important, tells us is important. A very good win

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over Utah, we know that, a very good loss on

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the road to Texas Texas. I'm rambling. I don't know

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exactly what they said about home versus road and all that.

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All I do know is that these are the parameters

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that they set out, and they're not following the parameters

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that they themselves have created, no.

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Speaker 2: Doubt about it. It's an interesting dilemma. Let's talk BYU

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here for a moment. First team out, Utah, second team out.

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they get to the Big Twelve Championship game. They may

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have to win that game in order to get into

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the College Football Playoff. Rick Neuheisel thinks a BYU team

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that runs the table and gets to the Big twelve

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Championship game at least deserves to be in.

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Speaker 3: What say you? Where do you stand?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: You know, I understand the frustration of a BYU fan,

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and I understand that this conversation is happening.

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Speaker 5: I do think context.

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Speaker 4: Matters, right, you know, if Alabama loses to Auburn, you

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know they're not getting in. I certainly don't think they

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should be in as a three loss team over a

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two loss BYU if both of their losses are to

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Texas Tech, or frankly, if both Texas Tech and by

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you enter at eleven and one, I don't think a

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three lost Alabama should get in over either one of them.

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Speaker 5: Same with Oklahoma.

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Speaker 4: If Oklahoma loses one of their next two games, If

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Oregon loses to USC, I think that creates some interesting conversations.

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So you know, I'm not super caught up in all

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of that, but I do agree with what I It

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Speaker 5: Be the sentiment.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to speak for every BYU fan or

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every media member that covers by ANDU. I know I

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don't speak for all of them, but I think the

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sentiment is that if BYU wins the remainder of their game,

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it shouldn't be a if you lose in the Big

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twelve championship.

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Speaker 5: Game, you're automatically.

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Speaker 4: Eliminated and without the context of everything else that could happen.

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you know, and by the way, like USC is kind

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of an important lynchpin here by the way, and I

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know this is a national talking point, the Miami versus

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Notre Dame conversation, So you know, I think the broader

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I just think it was the way the rankings fell.

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I just feel like there's a lot of fan bases

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that have to be frustrated right now. BYU is certainly one.

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if we went out, are we not going to be

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able to surpass the team we beat in Miami? And again,

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I don't believe the committee is frankly smart enough to

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Speaker 3: It's correlated.

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Speaker 4: They're certainly angry, And I leave the rivalry steps to

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of very clearly being a very good team that I

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if they do not make it to the Big twelve

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championship game, and certainly they would have to win there.

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Speaker 5: Of people Trump well.

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Speaker 4: But I just don't think they have the resume right now.

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Speaker 4: They're a you know, kind of unfortunate bystander and all

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this of a team that I think is really good.

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to make the Big twelve championship game. I don't know

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how all the time breakers work. I know, obviously if

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they went out, there's the possibility they could get there,

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depending on who else wins and who else loses.

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Speaker 5: But it was more of kind of that conversation.

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Speaker 2: You know, they feel like they're playing at a at

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a rate right now that can beat anybody in college football.

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Speaker 3: Like actually that's how they feel.

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Speaker 2: They they lost one on the road to be yu.

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It's a robbery game. It should be thrown out the window.

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On paper, they should have won. Uh.

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Speaker 3: Their their quarterback got a little.

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Speaker 4: Bit, a lot of hyals, but yeah, had.

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Speaker 2: He not been injured, you know, then then Utah would

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 2: College game Day came to Rice Ecles and they just

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they weren't ready for that game.

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Speaker 3: It was too early on in the season. They weren't

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trending in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: Now they're trending in the right They can beat anybody

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in college football. They deserve to be in That's what

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Speaker 5: And let me ask the question. I must have missed

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this headline. It sounds like they joined the.

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Speaker 4: SEC because the SEC is undefeated.

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Speaker 5: In hypothetical matchups. So well, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: If you know, if if six lost, Mississippi State played

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Notre Dame, I mean, Mississippi State would give them all

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sorts of trouble. It's like, okay, well they're not playing

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in the games on the field, do matter, and uh

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and whatever? So yeah, that sounds like an SEC fan

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base a lot of hypotheticals. No, you know, no, in

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the SEC. I don't know if you've heard this but

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they're undefeated in hypothetical games all time, and they play

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a lot of them, by the way, you know, they

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play a lot of hypothetical games. So that sounds like

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that sounds like you tump things.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's so interesting because I look at what Sankie

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did with his nine conference games, right, they wanted more.

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right because they have this twenty thirty years of equity

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which obviously from a national championship standpoint, and it is accurate,

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but they've also been cheating when nobody else could cheat, right,

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and they were allowing certain teams to cheat and have

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bag men and all these things.

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Speaker 3: And that's why they've won.

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Speaker 2: Now that the playing field has ultimately been leveled, and

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they're scared out of their minds, why Nick Saban retired,

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it's why you know they're they're they're kicking and screaming

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that's why they decided to play more in conference games.

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And then they were very strategic about who played who

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within the conference so they could get as many teams

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our textural, it was schematic, it was chess. And you

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look at how many teams are in the mix from

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the SEC and they really don't play each other, right

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they they're not.

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Speaker 3: And so there's.

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Speaker 4: Some of it, you know, is beyond any like like

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when they put together those schedules, like they could have

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never guessed that A and M would be who they

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are and they literally don't play at top half of

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the SEC team. I do think the one thing that

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Sankie has done well that I would like to see

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Brett Yormark take out of his playbook is that thinking

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is really good at getting you know, taking public narratives

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and getting ahead on them. And what I mean by

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that is, you know, I remember back to Big twelve

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media day when Brett or Mark said that we believe

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that we are going to have two teams in the

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college football Playoff this year. Okay, well, if you have

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two teams in the college football Playoff this year, Brett,

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you know it's great to say that. In July, Well,

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guess what b Yu to the whole conversation that we're

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having right now. Ben b Yu is on the outside

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looking in with a better resume than teams.

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Speaker 5: Ahead of them.

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Speaker 4: This is the day that Brett yor Mark should be

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doing Ben Kurtle's show, should be doing Sports Center, should

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be doing college football whatever, you know, whatever the college

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you know, college game day on Saturday. I think Big

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this is where Brett or Mark needs to step up

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and earn his paycheck. And the one thing about saying

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whenever there's whenever there's an opportunity to push the sec

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narrative whether it's true, can he continue?

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Speaker 5: Can can they continue to sell that big picture?

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recruiting processes. Aj was balling out at Utah Prep Academy.

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00:22:43,799 --> 00:22:46,279
Darren was doing his work as well as a highly efficient,

477
00:22:46,319 --> 00:22:51,799
highly productive hooper before attending Kansas and Darren's Darren's a

478
00:22:51,839 --> 00:22:56,880
refined product. Darren is a three level score, a great

479
00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,920
ball handler, really really good shooter. He's got a pure stroke,

480
00:23:03,279 --> 00:23:10,119
he's got good size, he's got good length, and I

481
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:16,039
think this season you may see Darren have more success

482
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:20,079
statistically than Aj, just like he did to a certain

483
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,559
degree in the prep world. In the prep seed, you

484
00:23:23,599 --> 00:23:27,440
pull up Darren Peterson's stat his efficiency, he was very, very,

485
00:23:27,519 --> 00:23:31,680
very impressive and arguably the best player in high school basketball.

486
00:23:32,799 --> 00:23:36,319
But we all know that the NBA's not all about

487
00:23:36,799 --> 00:23:41,920
those numbers. It's also about upside, and Aj Debanca has

488
00:23:42,039 --> 00:23:49,200
way more upside. The height, the length, the athleticism. He's

489
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,799
a galloping gazelle in transition. He elevates off one or

490
00:23:52,839 --> 00:23:57,519
two feet, And he's actually quite physical for his like

491
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:02,039
spelt build right, Like, it's not like you look at him,

492
00:24:02,519 --> 00:24:06,519
you're not seeing Lebron, You're seeing more like a thinned

493
00:24:06,519 --> 00:24:09,559
out kind of Jason Tatum, right, Even Like when I

494
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,640
go back and I look at like Tracy McGrady, like,

495
00:24:13,279 --> 00:24:15,240
I feel like he's a little bit thicker than AJ

496
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:20,640
coming out of college. My personal opinion. AJ is very

497
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:25,400
physical for his body type in my opinion, and I

498
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,000
think that's impressive because he'll body up guys on the

499
00:24:28,039 --> 00:24:30,960
defensive end, and he'll he'll lower the shoulder on the

500
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,839
offensive end and back down guys that are bigger than him.

501
00:24:35,279 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 3: So to me, AJ has the higher upside.

502
00:24:39,039 --> 00:24:42,519
Speaker 2: Would I like to see a little bit more explosivity

503
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,880
after that first step, after that first cross, once he

504
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,759
gets a guy on the shoulder, Like, I don't know

505
00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:51,559
if he blows past anybody, right, I don't know if

506
00:24:51,559 --> 00:24:56,519
he's in that you know, fifteen feet where you have

507
00:24:56,559 --> 00:25:00,359
to create separation and blow by a guy like, I

508
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,920
don't know if I see that from AJ. But as

509
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,599
he gets more muscle mass. That will happen period because

510
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,319
the neurological component, you can see it in him. He

511
00:25:10,839 --> 00:25:13,400
has the ability. It just needs a little bit more

512
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,880
muscle mass. So to me, this isn't overly controversial, but

513
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,160
it's something I wanted to discuss with you. Ronnie Agreer

514
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,720
disagree right now. Darren Peterson being predicted number one overall

515
00:25:26,039 --> 00:25:28,480
in front of AJ to Bonsa and a mock draft.

516
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 3: I know it's way early.

517
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 2: It's these guys are watching Darren, They're watching aj, They're

518
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,880
watching Cam, They're watching Nate. Jeremy Woo's got a good

519
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,480
eye for talent. He's picking Darren, the more refined product

520
00:25:38,519 --> 00:25:40,119
over the upside of Aja Bonsa.

521
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 3: A Greer disagree.

522
00:25:41,079 --> 00:25:45,079
Speaker 8: No, I disagree now First to your point, right now,

523
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,680
it will get defined of getting down here right now.

524
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 7: He doesn't need to.

525
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 2: Though you notice he has the body he does.

526
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 3: He's not a fly and by.

527
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 8: Them, and and I think because of his size and

528
00:25:55,519 --> 00:25:58,960
his length, he also doesn't have to because because he's

529
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,920
so long, and because that first step gets guys, they

530
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,480
foul everybody does everybody that game. Look look at Yukon,

531
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,519
he fouled the guy out like guys are flopping because

532
00:26:08,559 --> 00:26:11,400
they fear AJ's length of getting to the basket.

533
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,279
Speaker 7: That's what they're doing. They're like, oh, I can't slow

534
00:26:13,319 --> 00:26:13,599
you down.

535
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 8: But that hesitation been that step, it's so effective where

536
00:26:16,839 --> 00:26:18,799
he doesn't need to blow by. But when he gets

537
00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:21,680
past someone, you're out of position where you're like, okay,

538
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,720
like number twenty three, don't know his name, but he

539
00:26:23,759 --> 00:26:26,440
felt like three times even Agent caught a highlight because

540
00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:29,279
you can't guard that right. And yeah, that's the difference

541
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,720
with Darren and Aj is A's gonna bait you to

542
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,759
get into the free throw line. And one he doesn't

543
00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:36,400
necessarily need to do that with the explosivity that he

544
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,799
needs to get. Darren has the explosivity, he'll go right

545
00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:40,599
by you. Both are great how you look at it.

546
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,319
But still, look, I'm picking at Darren right now. Is

547
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,359
having a problem already stand healthy. He didn't play in

548
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,599
the game against Duke and Kancas got clapped, they got beat,

549
00:26:49,599 --> 00:26:51,680
then he get clap but they lost about twelve, Right,

550
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:52,079
he didn't.

551
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:52,519
Speaker 3: He didn't.

552
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:53,599
Speaker 7: You know, that didn't work.

553
00:26:53,599 --> 00:26:55,319
Speaker 8: And if look, this is all I'm saying, if you're

554
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,799
the if you're the truly refined player. Your team didn't

555
00:26:59,799 --> 00:27:03,640
come you know, highly ranked like AJ's did. Like that's

556
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,839
what the number on overall recruit and projected number one

557
00:27:05,839 --> 00:27:07,880
pick will do. Like you and I get it. You

558
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,640
saw that they didn't win the Duke. I mean you

559
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,359
also haven't played the schedule that AJ's played. Like they

560
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,079
lost to North Carolina, who by you beat in an exhibition.

561
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,799
By the way, if that was a game they would

562
00:27:16,839 --> 00:27:18,519
have won that AJ did what in that game?

563
00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought so. Darren baldout two.

564
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,319
Speaker 8: Don't act like he didn't like a j against Villanova

565
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,039
dropped twenty one. Yes, he struggled from the free throw line,

566
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,359
no doubt, but he shot fifty percent twenty one points

567
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,920
in thirty one minutes against Yukon in a game that

568
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,880
they were down. He scores twenty one of his twenty

569
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,039
five in the second half.

570
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 7: I guess what he did.

571
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 8: He finished the game eight to fourteen, shot fifty seven

572
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,319
percent from the field, was seven to ten from the

573
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,839
free throw line. Better still need to make all your

574
00:27:42,839 --> 00:27:45,680
free throws two or three. The problem that they're gonna

575
00:27:45,759 --> 00:27:47,400
what they're gonna grate ag on is the same thing

576
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,799
they're gonna get on AJ four three point shooting. That's

577
00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:52,720
gonna be the biggest thing of what I see. Okay,

578
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,160
he struggles in't making three point shots, but look, Darren's

579
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,720
averaging twenty one and a half right now, ages averaged

580
00:27:57,759 --> 00:27:59,759
in twenty point three. But Ah is grabbing seven boards

581
00:27:59,799 --> 00:28:02,440
a game. He's dishing now to assist. He's shooting fifty

582
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,839
seven percent from the field. Darren's given twenty one three

583
00:28:04,839 --> 00:28:07,640
point three point five rebounds and the three assists on

584
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,720
sixty percent shooting. Like look, in the NBA, you need

585
00:28:11,799 --> 00:28:14,319
guys to rebound, you need guys to be able to

586
00:28:14,319 --> 00:28:16,799
score points, you need guys to play defense. AJ has

587
00:28:16,839 --> 00:28:18,880
all that he's a better defender than Darren, not saying

588
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,839
that Darren can't play defense. Again, but AJ's length that

589
00:28:22,039 --> 00:28:25,480
upsiding transition that's just way better. So am I surprise

590
00:28:25,559 --> 00:28:27,599
that this mock draft came out knowing I just texted

591
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,319
you something, Ben, because this has dropped a little bit ago.

592
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,640
But they and again, you have to play in fifty

593
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,720
percent in games for this to be decided. So Myron

594
00:28:35,799 --> 00:28:39,279
Metcalf and Jeff Borzello don't want any hate emails coming

595
00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:41,880
from them from Kansas fans, but they they ranked the

596
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,880
top ten freshmen right now, you know of the year contenders,

597
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:45,599
who's number one?

598
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 7: You know who's number one? AJ debonsa like they're right there.

599
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 8: Ajed de bons the biggest performance so far twenty five points,

600
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,680
six rebounds versus Ukonum November fifteenth. AJ has the most

601
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,039
primetime matchups I think, compared to Kansas.

602
00:28:58,119 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 7: And even if Darren is.

603
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,839
Speaker 8: Not to play, that hurts your stock, Ben, not being

604
00:29:01,839 --> 00:29:04,240
able to play in these games, not being able to

605
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,319
play in that do game, that will matter down the stretch.

606
00:29:06,759 --> 00:29:08,440
That will when these two go ahead to head, Like

607
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,319
I think all of it will be settled when they

608
00:29:10,359 --> 00:29:12,880
play against each other in fog Allen. If AJ goes

609
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,079
to Kansas with BYU and they get a win, that

610
00:29:15,119 --> 00:29:17,440
will really solidify it how they look against each other.

611
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,119
Speaker 7: So all of this to me is just noise.

612
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 8: All of this is once they get the conference play

613
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,279
and playing against each other will But look, we're reading

614
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,920
articles saying that AJ right now, you know the stats

615
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,880
that I mentioned is put here beating Villanova and the

616
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,279
comeback loss almost against Yukon, Like, I mean, we're gonna

617
00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:35,799
get all of these articles in these points the whole year, Ben,

618
00:29:36,119 --> 00:29:38,119
But it truly won't be decided till January.

619
00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:40,839
Speaker 7: Yeah, then when they play and then the tournament in March.

620
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: When it's gonna matter more in the on the background

621
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,000
about it, I just there's gonna be continue like it's

622
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,160
always been a job and it will continue to be

623
00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:50,759
that in my opinion.

624
00:29:50,839 --> 00:29:52,519
Speaker 7: Look a booster kid looks great too, and let me

625
00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:54,880
give some love to him. Like broke Ben, he looks phenomenal.

626
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,960
Like he looks great too, like he very well could

627
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,039
be the number one overall pick.

628
00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: I wouldn't go that far like Booser's ices ice, but

629
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,079
I don't think they overtake. I mean, I would think

630
00:30:06,359 --> 00:30:10,279
Darren has to be like severely injured or aj has

631
00:30:10,359 --> 00:30:13,640
to really craft the bed for something like that to happen.

632
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,000
But that's why those could happen.

633
00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 7: I don't think they will.

634
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,319
Speaker 3: But I don't think that dude's too much of a competitor.

635
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:23,359
Speaker 2: I love me some aj de bonsa competitive nature.

636
00:30:23,359 --> 00:30:25,079
Speaker 7: I do worry about Darren's health, though, Man, this is

637
00:30:25,119 --> 00:30:25,799
something that happened.

638
00:30:25,839 --> 00:30:27,759
Speaker 3: Yeah because of my hamstring issues.

639
00:30:27,839 --> 00:30:30,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, I worry about thes. I do worry about that,

640
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:31,240
But I checked this out.

641
00:30:31,359 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 8: Boozer projected to go to the draft I mean the jazz,

642
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,200
how about that, Like Pop's played so hey, I just

643
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,720
wanted to throw that out there. And then Native Man,

644
00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:41,640
I like, this is draft class band is great. I

645
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:43,440
know this is maybe obviously he's a talk but I

646
00:30:43,559 --> 00:30:47,240
don't see Rob Wright leaving because when I see all

647
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:49,799
these names, he's high profile mans. I'm like, Rob, You're

648
00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:52,039
not getting drafted over these guys. So I think this

649
00:30:52,119 --> 00:30:54,440
is good maybe for you for the future, because I

650
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,200
think this is good for Rob Wright to come back

651
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,319
for one more year in developed. But that's a conversation

652
00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,039
for another day.

653
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 3: A couple other things here.

654
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,519
Speaker 2: Myron Medcalf caught up with AJ DEBOTSA and some of

655
00:31:05,519 --> 00:31:08,519
the reasons why AJ ended up taking a visit to BYU.

656
00:31:08,599 --> 00:31:13,079
He actually reached out. AJ reached out to Kad Kevin Durant,

657
00:31:13,119 --> 00:31:16,640
one of his heroes Ace. His father had told him, like, hey,

658
00:31:16,759 --> 00:31:22,640
keep keep your communication open with BYU. I advice from

659
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,319
the father was also a catalyst year. I don't want

660
00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:31,440
to let that go, you know. Unnoticed here kd though

661
00:31:31,519 --> 00:31:33,759
told AJ to go on the visit. I actually hit

662
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,359
Durant up just to ask him. This is what AJ said,

663
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,279
just asked him about Kevin Young. He was like, Yo,

664
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,559
you're going to like him, so just take the visit

665
00:31:41,599 --> 00:31:43,400
and see how you feel about it. Sure enough, when

666
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,960
Debontsa arrived, Young sold him on the ways. Bou modeled

667
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,960
itself after an NBA team with real NBA professionals. The

668
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,440
players on this team have meal plans designed by Danielle Lafada,

669
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,680
who was previously the director of Performance Nutrition for the

670
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,160
Sons of the Phoenix Mercury. Young has also assembled one

671
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,400
of the largest staffs in college basketball. After every practice

672
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,000
a multitude of staffers, there are sixteen student managers of

673
00:32:06,119 --> 00:32:10,319
six graduate assistants crunching numbers and looking at film on

674
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,759
computers stacked on a long table near Young's office, with

675
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,039
the goal of taking this program to the place it

676
00:32:16,079 --> 00:32:20,960
has never been. Particulous. Approach appealed to Debotsa, who wanted

677
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,039
the perspective that Young's love for analytics has produced. When

678
00:32:25,079 --> 00:32:29,000
Debonsa missed a three pointer at a September practice, Akash

679
00:32:29,079 --> 00:32:32,559
Sebastian bioi's director of the Analytics and Strategy, knew which

680
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,480
point on the rim the ball had clanked, the trajectory

681
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,880
of the shot as it left De Bonce's hands, and

682
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,039
its exact location on the court when he released it. Crazy.

683
00:32:41,119 --> 00:32:44,119
The data helps Debonce understand where on the court he's

684
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,720
most likely to help himself and his team. Higher percentage

685
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,319
points win, higher percentage shots win. Debots has said, So

686
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,799
for me being able to take those and create those

687
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,799
and generate those high percentage shots, if it's me shooting

688
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,920
or somebody else shooting based off the fenders I attract,

689
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,519
the more games were going to win.

690
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 3: I had never thought of the game like that.

691
00:33:06,599 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: Badusha granular professional uh type of program that very few

692
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,559
are replicating in the college basketball world. Kate, why is

693
00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:18,519
doing it? What?

694
00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:20,119
Speaker 7: I mean? What else can you ask for if you're

695
00:33:20,119 --> 00:33:20,559
a recruit?

696
00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 8: I mean, isn't that why I got Abdullah Achman like

697
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,119
Ahmed Akmen.

698
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 7: I want to make sure.

699
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,599
Speaker 8: I said, amen, make Suremed Acmen Med Akhmed cat bet okay,

700
00:33:30,599 --> 00:33:34,119
I thought, I said, men, my sorry, Akhmed socmen adulah Achmed.

701
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 7: I just want to make sure you. Hey, look, I

702
00:33:36,519 --> 00:33:37,400
learned this from Gregor Bell.

703
00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 8: You can do You can make mistakes on air, but

704
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,640
if you if you mess up someone's name, we.

705
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:43,599
Speaker 2: Try, that's like no forgiveness.

706
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 8: So get a nucie's name, right, look, I'm gonna make

707
00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:47,359
shut try to get those right. Anyway, back to business,

708
00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:49,279
then what else could you ask for for your recruit

709
00:33:49,599 --> 00:33:52,880
Like h said that on again going at the greatest,

710
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,240
I want to say the greatest, but one of the

711
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:59,160
most probably controversial, you know, TV personalities out there, Steven Smith.

712
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,839
Why can't I play du kid by committing on ESPNS

713
00:34:01,839 --> 00:34:04,279
and they got NBA. Everything from nutrition is down to

714
00:34:04,319 --> 00:34:06,440
strength and conditioning, down to analygics. You just read it

715
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,519
from Myron Metcalf. I need to put in a request

716
00:34:08,519 --> 00:34:10,079
to get my Ron on the show now. But like,

717
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,679
look at that, like he thought about a cash the

718
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,360
guy that they have setition is finding out why he

719
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,000
missed the three where he was at who passed in

720
00:34:19,039 --> 00:34:21,159
the ball? Like all of that, Like I would never

721
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,039
think about that. Like that's exactly what I want my

722
00:34:23,079 --> 00:34:24,400
son or daughter to have. I want him to have

723
00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:28,000
the best possible opportunity to play in college, because where.

724
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 7: Are you trying to go?

725
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:28,639
Speaker 2: Ben?

726
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:30,199
Speaker 7: If you go to college, you're trying to play at

727
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:30,800
the next level.

728
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 8: Well, why would you not go to the place that

729
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,840
has everything laid out for you from what you're gonna eat,

730
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,280
when you're gonna sleep how you're gonna lift and how

731
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,880
you can get better and practice in the gym.

732
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 7: Head on, shoot the corner. Three, that's actually bad.

733
00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 8: I think the reason why AJ made two out of

734
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,440
three three has been did you see where he took

735
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,559
those threes at? He didn't take him in the corner,

736
00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:48,000
He didn't take him at the way he took him

737
00:34:48,079 --> 00:34:49,800
right at the top of the key. You got to

738
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,599
notice that this is where nerds and maybe Kevin Young

739
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:54,280
likes when you get into the nitty gritty of it.

740
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,400
Look at where AJ missed his five threes at in

741
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,760
that Villanova game. Look where he was forcing them. You

742
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,800
have to take that into account. Look Rob right, look

743
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,000
word Dawson Baker. Look where they all made those shots

744
00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:04,719
at the top of the key, bind, not on the

745
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,559
not in the corners, like look at Richie, like those threes.

746
00:35:07,679 --> 00:35:10,079
All of that is coming from a cast, from Kevin Young,

747
00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:12,519
from the staff, everything that they have to say, Hey,

748
00:35:12,559 --> 00:35:14,840
these are the high percentage shots you need to take

749
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,880
the Look this is a fantastic program.

750
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 7: Bin salute to Kevin Young.

751
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,639
Speaker 8: Look they lost earlier to Yukon, but then if they're

752
00:35:20,639 --> 00:35:25,159
battling back against Yukon in a neutral environment aterix around

753
00:35:25,199 --> 00:35:27,920
neutral because Yukon is like seventy miles away. They're down

754
00:35:28,159 --> 00:35:30,800
by twenty in the first half, they're down Kiba, They're

755
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,000
down one of their premiere defending guards from the perimeter

756
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,039
that violated a rule and is not playing. And aj

757
00:35:37,159 --> 00:35:39,440
drops twenty one and you come back. Like the announcers

758
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:40,960
were saying it. If you listen to the game, it

759
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,400
felt like an Elite eight game that did. That's going

760
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,360
to prepare a net loss. I know you don't get

761
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,360
this credit in football, but in basketball you do that

762
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,360
quad one loss.

763
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,079
Speaker 7: beIN will help BYU and march I guarantee you it will.

764
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: One last thing that I'm up pulling up here the

765
00:35:56,559 --> 00:36:01,239
did you read the kind of the personal old testimonial

766
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,559
of aj De Bonsa.

767
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,639
Speaker 7: Yes, I didn't talk about slam oops that one.

768
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

769
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,199
Speaker 7: It was like the players yeah, which yeah that one. Yeah,

770
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,360
I did reach it. It was a player's tribute, player tribute.

771
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:16,639
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I thought this was interesting. A couple of

772
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,760
things that stood out to me. I remember he said

773
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,199
we were in English class. This is how you know

774
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,679
maybe the COVID nineteen pandemic factored into his basketball journey.

775
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:27,719
I remember when we were in English class that the

776
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,199
teacher mentioned the COVID nineteen outbreak. This was in seventh

777
00:36:30,199 --> 00:36:32,159
grade at Trinity Catholic. We were like, all right, cool,

778
00:36:32,199 --> 00:36:34,079
what does that mean for us? Two weeks later it

779
00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:36,360
was masked, a month later it was hybrid, and then

780
00:36:36,599 --> 00:36:39,440
it went full online. There was nothing to do, so

781
00:36:39,519 --> 00:36:44,239
I started hooping every day, doing three hour workouts a day.

782
00:36:44,679 --> 00:36:47,559
It's crazy. There were no indoor courts available, so we

783
00:36:47,559 --> 00:36:49,599
were just outside playing with the guys with a mask

784
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,760
on eighth grade was an online hybrid year, same thing.

785
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,360
I was bored. I'm so serious. I was just bored.

786
00:36:56,519 --> 00:36:58,800
I was like, yo, I'm just trying to hoop, so

787
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,440
that's all I did, and I just started falling in

788
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:01,960
love with it.

789
00:37:02,039 --> 00:37:03,039
Speaker 3: COVID made me snap.

790
00:37:03,159 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: I went from being a kid who had a pretty

791
00:37:05,039 --> 00:37:07,960
normal childhood, not obsessing over the game or caring too

792
00:37:08,039 --> 00:37:10,239
much about losses, to thinking about it all the time,

793
00:37:10,599 --> 00:37:13,199
can't wait to get to the court, willing to make sacrifices,

794
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,840
keep this thing in my life. I just fell in

795
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:20,679
love with getting better. Loved that. Pretty cool to see

796
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:26,239
how an adversarial situation, you know, turned in the kind

797
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,719
of the beast that he is today the gym rat

798
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,920
that he is today, So I love that. On choosing

799
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,320
to play basketball at BYU, he said, b YU felt

800
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,880
like a place I could make more of those kinds

801
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,719
of memories, the ones that last forever to me, That's

802
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,519
what it's all about. I remember I narrowed my list

803
00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:48,960
of schools down to seven. I had been posting all

804
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,440
my visit dates online and I guess boy fans saw

805
00:37:51,559 --> 00:37:54,599
that and knew I was coming in October, so they

806
00:37:54,599 --> 00:37:57,239
made a whole bunch of posters and stuff. When I

807
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,760
got here, people at the football game were chanting my name.

808
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,599
The basketball team was chanting my name. They had signs

809
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,280
of me all over, and I don't know that really

810
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,679
sold me. For a kid from Brockton, Massachusetts, seeing people

811
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,519
show that much love meant a lot. With BYU, I

812
00:38:11,599 --> 00:38:15,920
knew I would be going somewhere. I was really wanted

813
00:38:16,039 --> 00:38:18,920
where I could belong. His goals at BYU. I'm so

814
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,039
glad I chose BYU. It's a very late, it's very

815
00:38:21,119 --> 00:38:23,199
laid back over here. I mean, it's a vibe and

816
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,440
I truly think we can win it all. I wouldn't

817
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,199
have come here if I didn't. I came into this

818
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,079
season thinking we're going to put in max pain if

819
00:38:30,119 --> 00:38:33,800
we don't win a national championships is a disappointment. That's

820
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,400
how I feel. Just think about last season Florida one.

821
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,880
Nobody will remember that Houston made it to second place.

822
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:44,159
So it's championship or bust. That's AJ and who he

823
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,239
is and what BYU got. And I'm still like, you know,

824
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,320
in AWE, there's a reason why the tickets are so

825
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,239
expensive right now on the side Delta price.

826
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,159
Speaker 8: Normally they're like twenty to thirty bucks. I think it's

827
00:38:56,199 --> 00:38:58,480
one hundred bucks to sit up to watch the BYU

828
00:38:58,519 --> 00:39:01,400
Wisconsin game. Is my four hundred lower bolts in sane.

829
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,920
I have a credential. That's all I got to say.

830
00:39:03,199 --> 00:39:05,599
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rankings that dropped yesterday. What's fair, what's unfair? What are

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they what are they ultimately thinking? And what type of

863
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:36,159
word diarrhea salad was given by Hunter Yurachek, the committee chairman.

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Speaker 3: We got the GM man brandan segourney. G Man, how are.

882
00:41:30,519 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 6: You doing well?

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00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:32,679
Speaker 2: Guys?

884
00:41:33,039 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 6: How are you guys doing on this lovely day.

885
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,559
Speaker 2: I'm doing fantastic on a Wednesday, hum Day edition of

886
00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:38,400
Cougar Sports.

887
00:41:38,639 --> 00:41:40,599
Speaker 3: Uh, let's start off with this, g man.

888
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,559
Speaker 2: Are you are you pro committee or anti committee right now?

889
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:50,599
After the latest rankings, you.

890
00:41:50,559 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 9: Know, looking all that, I kind of I kind of

891
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,119
take solidarity with Klawe in h Yeah.

892
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,199
Speaker 6: It's it's you can make any argument this way or

893
00:42:01,199 --> 00:42:02,519
that way, but what can you do?

894
00:42:03,159 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 9: It is what it is, and what they came out

895
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:10,079
was shouldn't surprise anyone. We know what this College committee's about,

896
00:42:10,159 --> 00:42:12,320
we know what they look at, we know what they

897
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:13,360
want and.

898
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 6: B way you use an annoyance, they just aren't. They're

899
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,960
an annoyance. It's like, no, you're not a serious team.

900
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 9: You don't play in the SEC, you don't play in

901
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,039
the Big ten, and they're looking for reasons and they

902
00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:29,400
have a very bright and shining reason in that bway.

903
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,880
You had a chance to validate itself in November playing

904
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,440
on the road against Texas Tech.

905
00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:35,679
Speaker 6: And got whacked.

906
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 9: That's and there's no forgiveness right that, there's no allowance

907
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,280
the other way for Bayu because they're looking for a reason,

908
00:42:44,679 --> 00:42:49,199
they don't have the credibility in their minds historically to

909
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,800
match up. So you're given to just take any excuse

910
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,320
whatsoever or not put Bwayu in. I am sympathetic to

911
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,360
the argument that what you're doing November is far more

912
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:00,719
important than September.

913
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 6: My problem is.

914
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 9: That when they is when they make an unbelievable statement,

915
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,159
it's like, yeah, we're still regarding Oregon's win over Penn State,

916
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,920
where not only did that happen a long time ago,

917
00:43:13,079 --> 00:43:16,440
but Benn State's just not good at all. Right, it's

918
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,280
been revealed. So it's there's inconsistencies and you can just

919
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,159
nitpick it all you want, but the fact remains b

920
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,039
where you did get whacked on the national stage in November,

921
00:43:28,559 --> 00:43:31,559
and that's very pression in the minds of the committee members.

922
00:43:31,639 --> 00:43:34,760
Everybody watched that game. It's not doing b Way you

923
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,719
any favors. But here's the good news. Be what you

924
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,960
has the opportunity to go back win out face that

925
00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:45,079
same Texas Tech team and I know you we kind

926
00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:46,679
of disagree on this, but I think it'd be what

927
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:51,079
he gives Texas Tech a good game and despites to

928
00:43:51,079 --> 00:43:53,119
their very end. I think the Committee's going to give

929
00:43:53,159 --> 00:43:56,760
some allowance for that. Maybe I'm being naive in that regard.

930
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 6: I don't know. Probably, Well, that's a lot of it.

931
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 2: Let's start off with the BYU element here. Okay, so Hunter,

932
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,320
you're a check. The committee chairman said this regarding BYU

933
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,519
and where it's ranked. It's really the way they looked

934
00:44:09,679 --> 00:44:13,480
in that game against Texas Tech. They were dominated on

935
00:44:13,599 --> 00:44:16,159
both sides of the ball in that game against Texas Tech.

936
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:17,800
Then you look at their wins. They have a win

937
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,559
over Utaho's ranked thirteenth, but then their other wins are

938
00:44:21,599 --> 00:44:26,719
against what we would consider quality wins against unranked Iowa

939
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:31,039
State team, Arizona and East Carolina. Albeit, like, let me

940
00:44:31,079 --> 00:44:33,239
just clarify, those are all on the road, right, these are,

941
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,039
And that's one other things that they're not. They're not

942
00:44:36,199 --> 00:44:38,960
specifying in these wins on whether or not it's one

943
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,119
at home or on the road. That's one thing they

944
00:44:42,119 --> 00:44:46,719
are not waiting into their human and metrical algorithm. Here

945
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,880
he goes on then you look at the two loss

946
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,639
Alabama team that's got wins against number four Georgia, number

947
00:44:52,679 --> 00:44:53,679
fourteen Vanderbilt and.

948
00:44:53,679 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 3: Number twenty one Missou and number twenty Tennessee.

949
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,559
Speaker 2: Notre Dame's got to win over number fifteen ranked Southern

950
00:44:58,559 --> 00:45:00,440
cal and then last week of domin I even went

951
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,920
on the road at pitt who's ranked Dan Oklahoma has

952
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,719
wins at number eighteen Michigan, number twenty Tennessee and then

953
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,639
number ten Alabama. Hunter says, I think it's just the

954
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,119
number of quality wins that are with those two loss

955
00:45:13,159 --> 00:45:15,599
teams ahead of them, and how they looked in that

956
00:45:15,639 --> 00:45:21,440
game two weeks ago against Texas Tech. Your reaction, Yeah,

957
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,079
it's a strong argument.

958
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,159
Speaker 9: It's not an argument, but I'm just like, Oh, that

959
00:45:25,199 --> 00:45:26,400
guy's up in the ninety.

960
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,159
Speaker 6: He doesn't know what he's talking about.

961
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 9: It is a strong argument against BYU or b way.

962
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,679
You had a chance to elidate itself when on the road.

963
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,960
But I agree with your road argument, but no one

964
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,440
else does. It doesn't matter, but that is.

965
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 6: What it is.

966
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,079
Speaker 9: BAYU is not going to get any allowance. They're gonna

967
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,599
make any excuse they can to exclude BYU. But the

968
00:45:50,599 --> 00:45:52,920
fact that it was played in November. That is very

969
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,480
pression in people's mind. Is absolutely working against Bayu in

970
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,039
this regard because that gives everyone the excuse they need

971
00:45:59,079 --> 00:46:01,679
when they're looking for team, they're looking for competitive games.

972
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 6: They don't want someone to.

973
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 9: Come in as like, oh they don't belong and all that.

974
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,320
They don't want to hurt their own credibility and they

975
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,320
don't believe that the way he's going to match up, well,

976
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,519
they see b Way You're going against whoever, Alabama, Notre Dame, Oregon, whatever,

977
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,760
that is going to lay an egg like like it

978
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,000
did against Texas Tech. That's the fact of the matter.

979
00:46:20,079 --> 00:46:22,400
And until b Way you proves otherwise, they're not going

980
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,760
to give any allowance to get in.

981
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,079
Speaker 6: It's I mean, it sucks, but.

982
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 9: I feel like I'm just arguing and then just yelling

983
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,920
and nothing's gonna happen with anything. And none of this

984
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,559
should surprise anyone. This is the lot, the way you've

985
00:46:38,599 --> 00:46:42,159
been handed. I do believe that it be way. He

986
00:46:42,199 --> 00:46:45,880
gives Texas Tech a good, solid game where it could

987
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,119
go either way, where it's like, yeah, we belong. I

988
00:46:49,159 --> 00:46:51,519
do believe that people in the committee will notice that

989
00:46:51,559 --> 00:46:54,159
and maybe give Bway some allowance in that regard, but

990
00:46:54,199 --> 00:46:57,719
it might be too late by that stage because it

991
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,239
just matters with the carnage that might have up and

992
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,039
in front of it. But I do see a pathway

993
00:47:02,079 --> 00:47:04,800
where b Way you at large team could get invited.

994
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,880
It's very very slim, very slim, but I do believe

995
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,480
it's there, and it better be there because if that's

996
00:47:12,519 --> 00:47:15,519
the argument, and that's the shining argument you have, and

997
00:47:15,559 --> 00:47:20,199
if b Way you counteracts that argument says hey listen,

998
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,639
we respond and we can do this, now we can hang,

999
00:47:23,559 --> 00:47:26,639
then it kind of smacks their credibility and puts that

1000
00:47:26,679 --> 00:47:30,199
whole argument aside. Where where yeah, we saw that game,

1001
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:31,920
b Way you wasn't able to hang, or b Way

1002
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,599
you proves it can hang. No, you have to flip that.

1003
00:47:34,679 --> 00:47:36,400
You have to flip that script and you have to

1004
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,360
allow b Way you in. That would be my argument.

1005
00:47:39,159 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: Do you feel like the preseason rankings combined with TV

1006
00:47:44,199 --> 00:47:49,639
contract revenue share, influenced ultimately by population density and conference

1007
00:47:49,679 --> 00:47:54,199
affiliation factors? Are these the things that are contributing to

1008
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,760
the rankings as they are and combined with you know

1009
00:47:58,199 --> 00:48:02,679
the other component herees enough objective data points between power

1010
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,360
conference foes right, wins and losses, and they were all

1011
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,480
early on. So to your point, anything that happened early

1012
00:48:08,519 --> 00:48:11,559
on is now negated by anything that's occurring now. Whoever's

1013
00:48:11,559 --> 00:48:14,639
trending in the right direction is the team that's favored,

1014
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,360
especially if you're in the Big ten and the SEC.

1015
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 9: Well, well, unless you have the favorable outlook like Oregon does,

1016
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,400
where you want to give them credibility because you want

1017
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,960
that team in there because they have the establishment, whatever

1018
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,280
it is, the track record of doing stuff in the

1019
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,880
PLAYFFS or Bayu hasn't. What would be their argument. I

1020
00:48:34,159 --> 00:48:37,639
would argue that it's different every year that the teams progress,

1021
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,679
being teams E and flow.

1022
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 6: I don't know, but yeah, of course.

1023
00:48:42,519 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 9: That's a big factor that they had their blessed collection

1024
00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:49,760
of teams that they want to sign any credibility in

1025
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,440
any regard whatsoever, and that's what you're seeing play out.

1026
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,880
I don't know, a lot of this discussion is really

1027
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,440
frustrating to me because it just doesn't matter, right.

1028
00:48:57,559 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 6: It doesn't matter what I think.

1029
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 9: It doesn't matter matter how many inequities you're going to

1030
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,039
point out anything, it's.

1031
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:05,119
Speaker 6: Not gonna matter.

1032
00:49:05,199 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 9: B way, he has its path they have that opportunity,

1033
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,800
and you corarespond to that, it's real. And if be

1034
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,679
Way he does go to that college champion Big twelve

1035
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,440
Championship game and gets wife against Texas Tech, I mean,

1036
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:18,719
it's hard for me to make the argument.

1037
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 6: It's like, well, it would be different in the playoffs.

1038
00:49:21,639 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 9: It would absolutely be different. I don't know if I

1039
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,880
could float that. I don't know if I could credibly

1040
00:49:27,199 --> 00:49:29,199
argue that, because I don't really believe that.

1041
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 6: So to me, the past just cut and dry, all.

1042
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 9: The speculation, all the conspiracies and all that. Just get

1043
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,320
to that Big twelve championship game and validate yourself.

1044
00:49:40,639 --> 00:49:43,199
Speaker 6: That's it. Because seriously, if you're a b Way You

1045
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,679
fan and you're and you're.

1046
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,599
Speaker 9: Ranting and raving about all this, and if b Way

1047
00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:50,199
he goes back to that Day twelve championship game and

1048
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:54,199
gets done like it did the last time against Texas Tech,

1049
00:49:54,199 --> 00:49:57,000
it's really really hard to argue. It's like, hey, well

1050
00:49:57,039 --> 00:50:00,800
it's going to be different in the college football. Of course,

1051
00:50:01,039 --> 00:50:04,880
if Texas Tech goes and Robson wins the national championship.

1052
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 6: They have an argument in that regard. I don't know.

1053
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,880
I do think Texas Tech's capable being that team, but

1054
00:50:10,599 --> 00:50:13,400
to me, it's just noise. It frustrates me.

1055
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,679
Speaker 9: I'm not smart enough to understand all the components, everything

1056
00:50:16,679 --> 00:50:19,760
that goes into it, all the different factors and whatnot.

1057
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,519
Speaker 6: But I just didn't know what the Pappy way you have.

1058
00:50:22,679 --> 00:50:24,360
So yeah, I'm standing with Kilawney.

1059
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 9: I'm frustrated, right, I'm frustrated because none of what I

1060
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,519
say and what I think matters.

1061
00:50:29,679 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 6: None of it matters.

1062
00:50:31,519 --> 00:50:32,159
Speaker 2: They don't care.

1063
00:50:32,639 --> 00:50:36,519
Speaker 9: Validate yourself, get to that big cold championship game. Certainly

1064
00:50:36,519 --> 00:50:39,559
win the game against Cincinnati because the last thing you want.

1065
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 6: Is for Utah to get in there.

1066
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 2: That would really sting.

1067
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 6: And just get it done on the field. That's all

1068
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:46,400
you can do.

1069
00:50:46,519 --> 00:50:50,039
Speaker 9: Sorry, I know that's a simple man's take on the matter,

1070
00:50:50,119 --> 00:50:51,199
but that's where I'm at.

1071
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 2: What issue? What's your biggest issue in the rankings right now?

1072
00:50:55,639 --> 00:50:57,559
Is there one in particular that you play as like

1073
00:50:57,639 --> 00:51:00,920
they got this wrong? Right? Is that they got wrong?

1074
00:51:01,679 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 6: Well? The Notre Dame always bothers me.

1075
00:51:04,119 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 9: I just think that Notre Dame is perennially overrated, and

1076
00:51:09,159 --> 00:51:11,480
it bothers me considerably that.

1077
00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 6: They are where they are.

1078
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,679
Speaker 9: But I don't have a lot of inks toward anything

1079
00:51:17,039 --> 00:51:21,039
ahead of BYU. It's not a huge outrage like, no,

1080
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,360
that team doesn't belong. I'm not seeing that with the

1081
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,760
teams ahead of BYU. I'm really not. I mean, Oklahoma's man,

1082
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,400
they beat Alabama. I mean you gotta give some credit

1083
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,760
in that regard that that's probably going to prep BAUS

1084
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,440
hope for now large bit as much as anything that.

1085
00:51:39,679 --> 00:51:41,039
Speaker 6: No one was expecting that.

1086
00:51:41,079 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 9: And if you watch that game almost kind of got lucky.

1087
00:51:44,679 --> 00:51:47,760
Alabama shot itself into the foot. But the committee apparently

1088
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,320
doesn't care about that as like, no, they they did it.

1089
00:51:50,679 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 6: They beat.

1090
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 9: The way Oklahoma beat Alabama was kind of the same

1091
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,519
way b way you beat Utah in a lot of regards.

1092
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,559
Speaker 6: It was similar, although I think Oklahoma was even more lucky.

1093
00:52:01,639 --> 00:52:04,719
But no, they're gonna give Oklahoma the benefit of the down.

1094
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,440
I'm not really seeing a team.

1095
00:52:06,199 --> 00:52:08,199
Speaker 9: In front of the where you where you're just outratus

1096
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,239
like nahye, way, he deserves to be ahead of that team.

1097
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,280
You can make like little arguments here and there, but

1098
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,000
as far as just being a saying no, there's no

1099
00:52:16,039 --> 00:52:18,559
doubt be where he deserves to be ahead of that team.

1100
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:19,199
Speaker 6: I'm not seeing that.

1101
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm just done. Yeah, let's pivot here a little bit.

1102
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:27,960
Let's talk prep football recruiting, something that you know you're

1103
00:52:28,159 --> 00:52:31,360
very much privy to. You were at the semi final games.

1104
00:52:31,519 --> 00:52:33,239
You were sitting next to Brandon Huffman of two four

1105
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:38,760
seven Sports getting all the deats on these prospective local recruits.

1106
00:52:39,079 --> 00:52:41,440
What did you see? What did you like? Do you

1107
00:52:41,519 --> 00:52:45,000
feel like anything's brewing in the twenty twenty six class

1108
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:49,719
for BYU with some flippage, give me some evals if

1109
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,280
you will, Malala Pula's all the all the deeds.

1110
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 9: Please, Just so people know, Brandon Hoffman is extremely in

1111
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:00,320
tune with what go on.

1112
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 6: I just want to prop that guy up. He knows

1113
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,880
his product. And while I was.

1114
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,559
Speaker 9: In by him, he he I don't think he'd be

1115
00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:13,000
mad for me revealing this, he said, he Judy Mowalla

1116
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,719
has got to be a four star. What I'm seeing

1117
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,519
now there is a four star alignment, And sure enough,

1118
00:53:17,519 --> 00:53:20,039
two days after Brandon Huffman has a lot of pull

1119
00:53:20,119 --> 00:53:21,039
with the two.

1120
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,280
Speaker 6: Four seven network. Guess he's granted four stars.

1121
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 9: Judy Mowata everyone calls him Juni by the way, and.

1122
00:53:27,639 --> 00:53:30,199
Speaker 2: Seeing him myself, man, he's good.

1123
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 9: He He is going to be a dominant inside lineman,

1124
00:53:36,159 --> 00:53:38,679
probably three technique. He's probably going to play the position

1125
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,280
that JT's playing this year. I think he could boke

1126
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,000
up and play no nose guard, zero technique.

1127
00:53:44,039 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 6: Whatever.

1128
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 2: He's good.

1129
00:53:46,519 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 6: He's really really good.

1130
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,639
Speaker 9: And while this and I've been consistent b way the

1131
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,639
last piece for BYU and they're getting there because they're

1132
00:53:54,679 --> 00:53:57,519
better in that regard this year with the tackle play.

1133
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,159
Speaker 6: But once they get.

1134
00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:04,679
Speaker 9: That's all a six man rotation of dudes. They can

1135
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:09,199
just rotate in and out and take on guys, have death,

1136
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:13,440
not tire out, and just punish an opposing offense on

1137
00:54:13,519 --> 00:54:16,760
the interior man. That's going to be formidable because be

1138
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,440
what you kind of has figured it out at every

1139
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,280
other position. Defensive end looks fantastic for the coming years.

1140
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,199
That's going to be the strength of the defense. Linebacker.

1141
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:30,880
They have solid death safety, cornerback. They're looking really really

1142
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,599
good at all the positions, and they're not looking bad

1143
00:54:33,639 --> 00:54:35,920
at defensive tackle. Don't get me wrong, I think they

1144
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,280
have some guys, but once they get the up there

1145
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:42,719
where it's matching the talent, it's a band linebacker that's

1146
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,119
going to be really really big for this defense, and

1147
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:47,039
that's where you're going to reach the next tier, to

1148
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:47,639
have a.

1149
00:54:47,599 --> 00:54:50,119
Speaker 6: Truly dominating unit game in and game out.

1150
00:54:50,639 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 9: Whereas you're seeing teams that they can still do things

1151
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:57,159
against Bayu on occasion. But once you shut that down

1152
00:54:57,199 --> 00:54:59,760
and get that interior and getting guys like Juni Muala,

1153
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,800
who I believe will play the interior, that's gonna go

1154
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,880
along Rain in that regard. So, yeah, be excited about

1155
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,679
this kid. He's going to be very very good. The

1156
00:55:08,679 --> 00:55:11,760
only thing is you need three or four of these guys.

1157
00:55:11,519 --> 00:55:14,880
That's the goal, that's what you want. But this is

1158
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,480
a really really good start because he's tremendous.

1159
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 2: He's very very good.

1160
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,559
Speaker 9: I mean, you had the foremost two four seven evaluator

1161
00:55:21,639 --> 00:55:24,599
watching him live and he came away just saying.

1162
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,559
Speaker 6: No, I got to bump this kid up. He's really good.

1163
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,360
So and he was good. He was dominating his assignment.

1164
00:55:30,519 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 2: I think Cannon Pola also earned his fourth star per

1165
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:34,639
two four seven Sports.

1166
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,199
Speaker 3: What do you make of the Pula twins.

1167
00:55:37,199 --> 00:55:41,079
Speaker 9: I think what's hurting Canon is people are comparing him

1168
00:55:41,119 --> 00:55:44,239
to Jaron, and Jaren's a legitimate four star guy.

1169
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 6: Cannon hasn't been as good as a.

1170
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 9: Receiver, but I would argue he's as good as a

1171
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,639
safety prospect his ability to hunt down a ball. And

1172
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,199
everyone saw that catch. My goodness. I mean it wasn't

1173
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only on Sports Center they interviewed him about it. He

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was the most final catch I've ever seen ever. I've

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never seen a catch like that. I'll probably never see

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a catch like that. Again, that's athleticism, that's no hell.

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But more so than anything, that's confidence, the confidence to

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go up.

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Speaker 6: There and sneer that down.

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Speaker 9: I think what you see with a lot of defensive backs,

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it takes everything within their power just to be in

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the right spot, right, but reaching that next tier whereas okay,

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I'm not only in that right, smile, I'm making a

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play on this thing, right, I.

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Speaker 6: Can do this. Man's that's that's hard to come by.

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Speaker 9: Sure, And and I kind of believe that j Hills

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saw that and just like, hey, no, I need to

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step in here because it's kind of been a receiver thing.

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Jerry's kind of headed this, and yeah, you get Kenon

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as the bonus. And I think Keenan maybe reached the

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tier where it's like, no, I'm my own guy.

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Speaker 6: I can lead this thing, and we're kind of equal

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in that regard.

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Speaker 9: I'll get it done on the defense, Genal will get

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it done on the offense, and we'll just be happy

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and we'll contribute heavily to these teams.

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Speaker 2: But these guys are athletes.

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Speaker 9: These these are legitimate college players that will contribute sooner

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rather than later. They're very, very good, and from what

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I understand, b Way He's not really in it right now.

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They could get it in a moment's notice, because I

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00:57:14,559 --> 00:57:16,679
think the kids like b Way You, that they're hanging

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00:57:16,719 --> 00:57:18,280
around b Way You, they want that.

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Speaker 6: So I think it's just up to j Hill.

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Speaker 9: I think it's up to j Hill if he wants

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Keenan Poole is a safety and that's going to move

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in that regard, because I don't think Fessi's.

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Speaker 6: Enamored with Jared. Maybe I'm wrong on that.

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Speaker 9: I don't know, but I just haven't seen anything where

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00:57:33,679 --> 00:57:37,800
it's any movement or any percolation where yeah, yeah, b

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00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:40,519
Way's on the cusp of getting these guys. So I

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00:57:40,519 --> 00:57:42,679
think it's gonna take Jay Hill falling in love with

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00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,559
Kennan is a safety prospect, which I think could happen.

1214
00:57:46,639 --> 00:57:49,280
I think probably should happen because because the kid's tremendous.

1215
00:57:49,719 --> 00:57:51,519
Speaker 6: Yep, he's really really good, so.

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00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:55,599
Speaker 2: Really good player, no doubt about it. B Yu still

1217
00:57:55,719 --> 00:57:57,480
to a certain degree, is the master of own destiny.

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You got to focus on the task at hand. They

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00:57:59,559 --> 00:58:01,880
got a f because on Cincinnati on the road. How

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00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,719
do you think BAU finishes out the regular season?

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Speaker 6: It's gonna be a tough game.

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00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,159
Speaker 9: I hope fans understand this is gonna be a lot

1223
00:58:10,199 --> 00:58:13,199
tougher than that TCU game you pointed out, and you

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00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,440
preach it all and I believe you. I hate it

1225
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:17,920
when I have to give you cred, but I do

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00:58:18,039 --> 00:58:21,800
in this regard where I think Bau's advantage being on

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00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,159
a grass field is pronounced this year just because of

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00:58:24,159 --> 00:58:26,840
what bear Bachmeyer can do and his strengths as a player.

1229
00:58:27,559 --> 00:58:29,599
Cincinnati's gonna be tough. This is gonna be a big,

1230
00:58:29,639 --> 00:58:32,239
big game. This is do or die for Cincinnati. And

1231
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:36,239
even though Utah whacked Cincinnati, look at Cincinnati's total yardage.

1232
00:58:36,679 --> 00:58:39,599
They were making yards. They were doing things against that

1233
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,880
Utah defense, and that gives you pause. Things obviously didn't

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00:58:44,119 --> 00:58:48,280
go well the turnover battle. Utah dominated that, but what

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00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,519
Cincinnati showed is yeah, it can't make yards against a

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00:58:51,639 --> 00:58:53,840
very good defense, which Utah is Uta is a very

1237
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,280
good defense. I believe the ba's defense is better than Utah's.

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00:58:58,039 --> 00:59:00,360
But given the fact that it's on the row on

1239
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:04,639
a surface that since Natty's Uh comfortable with, it's gonna

1240
00:59:04,679 --> 00:59:06,719
be a tough all. It's gonna be really tough. I

1241
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:11,039
do believe the Bau's offense with what it showed and

1242
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,760
what I loved what Clawey said said this week is

1243
00:59:15,719 --> 00:59:18,119
Bear's arrived to the point where they can give him anything.

1244
00:59:18,519 --> 00:59:22,039
He's he understands the playbook. He can beat you with

1245
00:59:22,159 --> 00:59:24,280
his arm, he can beat you with his legs. His

1246
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,360
progression is now to the point where where they can

1247
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,360
do things. They can do a lot of things against

1248
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,119
an opposing defense. And since then you don't I'm that

1249
00:59:33,199 --> 00:59:35,000
good of a defense. So I expect Bear to have

1250
00:59:35,159 --> 00:59:37,719
a huge game again. I'm still waiting for that Chase

1251
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,199
Roberts game where he just dominates like he did in

1252
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American Fork High School.

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Speaker 6: I think it's coming, and I think it might be

1254
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:47,280
this week against him uh Cincinnati. But but yeah, it's

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00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,599
gonna be tough. It's gonna be a lot tougher than

1256
00:59:49,719 --> 00:59:52,920
TCU for a lot of factors. But but you get BWAY,

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00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:53,360
you the edge.

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Speaker 9: I think the team culture of what they showed coming

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00:59:57,239 --> 00:59:59,800
out out against TCU is tremendous. I think it's gonna

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01:00:00,519 --> 01:00:02,800
overcome and I think it's going to be way the

1261
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:04,119
victory of this coming Saturday.

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Speaker 2: The g man, g man, best way to support you,

1263
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,800
what you do, how you do it? And uh, then

1264
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:11,159
I got one more question for you.

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01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:12,599
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:00:13,199 --> 01:00:18,679
Speaker 9: Uh, Herald Extra dot com, get that old thing called

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01:00:18,719 --> 01:00:22,599
the newspaper, support us or read our articles. I'm doing

1268
01:00:22,599 --> 01:00:25,440
it with Darnell, the guy that I'd probably respect more

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01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,519
than any other person in this whole industry.

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01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 6: It's tremendous working with them. And yeah, we try to

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01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:31,760
feature good stuff.

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01:00:32,119 --> 01:00:33,559
Speaker 2: Great content is always.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: If one last thing, if b YU gets to the

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01:00:36,199 --> 01:00:39,360
Big Tal Championship and loses to Texas Tech and makes

1276
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,400
it competitive, your stance is that the committee is going

1277
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,199
to include b YU like a one score game, like

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01:00:45,719 --> 01:00:46,280
a seven.

1279
01:00:49,239 --> 01:00:50,599
Speaker 6: No, that is not my stance.

1280
01:00:51,039 --> 01:00:52,519
Speaker 3: Now, I thought you said that.

1281
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:57,079
Speaker 6: I believe that b what you may have that opportunity,

1282
01:00:57,519 --> 01:01:00,800
but they're looking for reasons. Critical, they're looking for reasons,

1283
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,519
and it all depends on what happens in front of BAYU.

1284
01:01:03,639 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 9: But I do believe the bay you can get that

1285
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:09,840
at large bid if it's competitive against Texas Tech, even

1286
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:11,880
if it loses in that big twel championship game.

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01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,119
Speaker 2: I do believe that g Man. We salute you, we

1288
01:01:15,119 --> 01:01:16,719
appreciate you, we love you. Thanks so much for hopping

1289
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:17,119
on today.

1290
01:01:18,119 --> 01:01:19,159
Speaker 6: All right, we'll see you guys.

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01:01:19,239 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 2: There you go.

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01:01:19,639 --> 01:01:20,239
Speaker 3: That's the g Man.

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01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,400
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